Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 19: When The Levy Breaks, with Nora Barrows-Friedman
Episode Date: March 21, 2024Nora is back on the pod and talking about her article in Electronic Intifada, the suspension of Eylon Levy, the condemnation of Jonathan Glazer, and UK grime music.Support this podcast at — https://...redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
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Okay. Today, we have a great
guest, a fantastic guest,
a returning bad as baria champion.
You may have seen this guest
on this very podcast. You may have
seen this guest talking about the wire
with me the other day. You may
read this guest's
journalism on
electronic intifada.
Ladies and gentlemen,
everyone else, welcome back
Nora Barrels.
Freeman
Beem
Thank you
Thank you
returning guest
I feel so honored
Thank you so much
You should
You should feel honored
You shouldn't at all feel like
It was a choice that I made
Because I was like
Oh fuck I need somebody
No it wasn't though
It wasn't I'll say it actually was
You have been
One of the most requested guests
in terms of like repeat guests.
Oh my God.
They loved your episode.
They loved you talking about the wire.
I think people just love you, Nora.
Oh, that is great.
And I am like, I'm blushing.
Because usually I just get like lots of hate mail and threats.
So that's really nice to know that.
That's got to be new.
In this little subsection, I am beloved.
So that's thank you for that.
In a small but you know what, growing, you know,
corner of the internet there are people out there who are like you know who's cool and funny
and rad nora barrows friedman they love you and i love you you're one of my favorite people my god i
love you you're one of my favorites let's hug let's hug everything sucks everything's the worst
it's the worst it's ever been yeah i mean it's like every time i in the back of my mind right so doing
this podcast, one of the things that I look forward to is the day when I don't have to do
this podcast anymore, because it doesn't actually fit into my life in any way that's good
or helpful. I love doing it in that I like talking to people and telling them my opinions
about shit and just doing dick jokes with my friends. Yes, the best. But I don't want the death
and destruction to continue, and I don't want the state of Israel to continue.
I don't, at least not in its current state if we're being wishy-washy.
It was a bad idea from the start.
Oh, it was a terrible idea.
I think that much is clear if you're a regular person.
But, you know, so in the back of my mind, though, there's like these moments, and I think
it's just maybe it was just my brain, but I.
will there'll be this thing where I'll go I might not actually have to do the podcast next week
because Palestine might be free next week. That's what we want. Like I think like you know
whenever someone says something about a peace talks that are happening it's like oh you know I mean
I'm cynical so I know like rationally it's all bullshit but there's that hope deep inside
And this week, no different, no different.
I woke up a couple days ago after, you know, I had a lot of fun.
My wife and I went to Sacramento.
We did the Sacramento Punchline.
Thank you to everyone who listens who came out to that.
That was really fucking rad.
I hope everyone came out to that because, wow, you were promoting that like every single day for two months.
I think I've gotten there were less ticket sales than there were messages from people going thank God it's almost over this fucking midroll ad is killing me listen I don't I don't do that many headlines sets bro no I'm very proud of me for doing that but it was I wish I could have been there I wish it could have been there it was a lot of fun and you know I was in a good mood and then I woke up and then I woke up and then
next day and I started seeing what was going on over at the Al-Shefa hospital. And it is just like,
you know, if ever there comes a point where you, you know, dip in and out a little bit of,
because it's such sad coverage, like dipping out of the coverage for mental health's sake,
I understand completely. You know, it's just something human and normal to be overwhelmed and
traumatized by it.
And, but I'll say every time there's a dip back in, like, all right, what's in the news?
It's just more and more, it just looks like a Holocaust.
More and more, it just looks like the genocide, like the classic genocide that every single Zionist gate keeps, you know, like an indisputable crime against humanity.
Absolutely.
And this one was, it was just like, it was so many things in one.
And you wrote this great article yesterday for Electronic Intifada.
And I wanted to, I just wanted to like ask you about it because it's, it's something that, you know, you've obviously been covering and it's all very new.
So I'm not so, I'm not certain what the.
the facts are on the ground.
And I think our, I think our listeners would be interested in, interested to know what's happening
here.
Oh, so where to start, yeah.
So where to begin?
So if we're going to start, I would say we would start first with your article, the way
your article starts.
And I'm going to, I'm going to share my screen so people can, can see it.
So that way, you know, but, you know, obviously, you can also just listen to the podcast.
guess, that's better for me.
So, yeah, Israel besieges, comma, storms, al-Sheifa hospital.
Now, my first question for you here is this is one of many hospitals that I think, you know,
for the regular, like, I don't know, I would consider the regular dumbass like, like,
like me, who is someone who follows this news, but is not.
you know, but is a dumb ass.
This hospital life is something we keep hearing about.
It's been under attack.
There have been multiple instances of attack, right?
Like what, how many, it says in your article, it starts up,
Israeli soldiers invaded and besieged the Al Shifa Hospital in Gaza City at dawn on Monday.
It was the fourth time that the largest medical facility in the Gaza Strip,
was attacked since October.
Yeah.
And you say that according to the Palestinian Health Ministry in Gaza,
Israeli forces bomb the specialized surgeries building, setting it ablaze.
And you included this picture right here from a Twitter user named Nicola Pergini.
Pergini and so can you just like go into this a little bit like first of all what is the
I don't know military use of bombing the surgery the specialized surgery unit is what why they why they do that
Nora well you know for normal people who believe that hospitals should be saying
sanctuaries of health and recovery and safety and security and care and love.
Obviously, this is horrifying.
And this is, like I reported, this is the fourth time since, you know, since the beginning of this
that Israeli forces have attacked and bombed Al-Shifa Hospital.
It is the largest medical facility in the Gaza Strip.
It's in Gaza City, which is, you know, kind of the center of Gaza.
Right.
And it's not just one hospital building.
It's like a compound where there are several different wards and like administrative offices and then specialty clinics, like surgeries.
They have, you know, like there's a maternity ward, you know, all the things that hospitals need to function as a hospital.
Things hospitals do.
Dr. stuff.
Doctor stuff.
And yeah, since the beginning of this current genocidal campaign, Israel has bombed the hospital
and its adjacent buildings four times now.
And, you know, in the first few incidents as they did now, again,
not only do they bomb it using, you know, tanks and airstrikes,
but then they have like special forces, Israeli special forces,
swarming in, holding people at thumb point,
ordering staff, physicians, patients, immobile, you know,
people in hospital beds.
Right, yeah.
And thousands and thousands of displaced people who have, you know,
been, like, forced out of.
their homes from elsewhere in the Gaza Strip and have been taking refuge in the hospital
compound, you know, they've just been like completely attacking them. And they're doing it,
you know, they always claim the same thing. And I believe that you mentioned this in your
article about, you know, Daniel Higari. You know, we'll see him in the Hague. It's
some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Famous pre-Hague man. Enjoy it while at last, Danny. You've seen
him, you know, standing there awkwardly. He's a guy who does like the press conferences in English.
Right. And there's a reason why they're in English, right? Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, I love a good English
language press conference because it's like, you know, if you, it's a good way to learn Hebrew, actually.
you watch the English language press conference and then you will know, and then once you watch
the Hebrew one, you will know what all the opposite words that he just said in English meaning Hebrew.
Yes, exactly. Yes. Yeah. So yeah, so they go in there. They swarm the buildings. They hold people
at gunpoint. There are armed quadcopters that also accompany these units, which is like incredibly
dystopian, but now it's just become normalized. I mean, these armed drones essentially.
are like hovering around medical facilities, residential towers, places that people have gathered
and shooting people.
Yeah.
I mean, it's just incredible dystopian insanity.
And then they say that they, you know, they're conducting a military operation to, you know,
root out Hamas terrorists.
Right.
Like this very, I mean, the, the accusation.
organizations, obviously, are that, like, everyone in Gaza is potentially Hamas, that Hamas is like
some sort of, like, you know, monstrous boogeyman that is living in high-tech, you know,
condominiums.
Right.
Underneath hospitals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so that was essentially the same, like, you know, lazy justification that they gave for this
latest attack on Al-Shefa.
but what the real intention is.
And Shifa Hospital is not the first or only hospital to be bombed and destroyed.
They have basically destroyed or permanently closed because there's no services anymore.
Right.
All of the 36 hospitals around Gaza.
Insane.
Completely.
I mean, we saw back in October, it was like October, I don't know, 17th, 18th when Israel bombed the Al-Ahali.
Baptist Hospital. Right. And they, you know. And that's the one in which there was a bunch of spin
on. Yeah. They're like, no, it was an Islamic Jihad rocket that, you know, that fell. I mean,
you look at the forensic evidence. It's like, that is not made by a rocket. That was a 2000-ton
bomb. Right. That was only, you know, that only Israel has. Right. And once they got away with
bombing the Al-Ahali Hospital, we then saw all of the other hospitals being.
bombed and then Israel bragging about it. They're not even trying to hide it. Right. They,
they stopped, they stopped arguing about that. Uh, you know, I think it wasn't just like once,
you know, the evidence started piling up that it was clear they did it. It was once they were like,
guys, we're going to have to bomb a few more hospitals. So let's just,
bomb all of them. Yeah. Let's just bomb all the hospitals and then we'll just say we have to.
Right. Without ever once correcting the record, uh, with, in fact, uh, I think Alon Levy the other day,
double down again.
He was like, he's like, not this crap again.
You know, as everyone knows, we didn't do it.
Yeah.
So they're still holding on to the lies while continually bombing other hospitals.
But what's the intention?
I mean, the intention is to so fear.
Yeah.
And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
medics, doctors, nurses, hospital staff, you know, technicians, clinicians, administrators of
hospitals from doing their work. And so like the cruelty is the point, but that's putting it
mildly. Yes. Yeah. That's when, when, you know, Donald Trump calls you, you know, a dick suck or
something, you know, it's like, man, cruelty is the point. It's like, no, this is like,
genocide is the point. Genocide is the point. Yeah. They want, they want full extermination.
of people in Gaza. I mean, Gaza has become a death camp. That's literally what it is. It's a large
graveyard. It's a death camp. And they're just, and nobody's stopping them. And that's, it's,
I don't know. I, I ran out of words in like October. Yeah. And I still don't, I still don't have
words. Yeah. And I guess for me, you know, the, it's like, you know, I just don't see any,
there's no rational conclusion to reach here because like you know other than what is actually
happening here with this is they are trying not just to you know like it's not solely about
the murder of people but it's about the collective punishment uh displacement and um cruel vengeance
that they are, you know, enacting upon a population of 2.3 million people.
The clear war crimes that are going on here seem so indisputable,
especially when, you know, you pointed out, Daniel Higari,
a claim that the soldiers, quote, found weapons and money inside the medical complex during the invasion,
which is something that, like, the idea,
that you would add money in there, I think, is just one of those things where you just, it just becomes very clear that this is, they're throwing in things. Like, he could have left it at weapons and let all of the Hisbarus do their job. The money thing seems to almost be another way to either find some sort of like, well, we have some legal loop.
hole in which you can bomb any building in which there's war money stored or something.
You know, it's so clear that it's either that, or just that it's, you know, we stole a bunch of
money and we probably should account for it by saying we did that we found it.
Yeah, I mean, they've been doing that, right?
Like, Israeli soldiers have been filming themselves on TikTok and Instagram, looting through
people's houses.
Yes, robbing, mocking.
Taking money and laughing about it, taking, you know, women's lingerie and.
And it just, they're so depraved and psychotic.
Yes.
And, and yeah.
And you look at it too, you know, when, you know, I saw the money thing for me,
it just brought up this like this undeniable Nazi parallel where you're just like, you know,
a huge part of the Holocaust wasn't just the murder and, you know, displacement of chews.
It was also the robbing of them.
Yes.
It was also robbing them of everything from, you know, their works of art that they had
been collecting to the gold in their teeth.
Yes.
And it just reminds me so much of that that I'm starting to think like, damn, that's pretty
anti-Semitic of me to bring that up.
You know what I mean?
How dare you?
How dare I?
You should sign that letter by the Hollywood so-called creatives against John Glazer.
We'll get there, Nora.
Can't wait.
I can't wait to the happy news.
To continue in your article, you point out one of, you know, like I said, it's just like a
grab bag of war crimes going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take your pick.
Yeah.
I mean, it's literally, it's like this is the mystery box.
It's like it could be any war crime you could think of.
It's probably in here.
And one of them was the abducting.
of journalists
that they were
you know journalists who were
documenting this very thing
and all
I believe under the like
the explanation of like oh well we need
to do a a blackout
of information going on here
which is a weird thing to admit
I mean they can just get away with anything
right so they'll just do it so yeah actually
yesterday when I was
when I was writing that story, you know, we also include illustrations for like the main
image that you see at the top of the article.
Yeah.
And I was trying to find photos of the, you know, the attack on El Shifa from every news agency
I could find.
Right.
And I couldn't find any.
And so I had to go with one that was related of like airstrikes that happened.
in this kind of similar neighborhood on the same day.
And then I realized it was like,
oh, because they arrested, tortured, and detained all the journalists that were in the area and inside the hospital itself.
Wow.
So, yeah, I mean, that's one of their tactics.
And not only did they take all the journalists in and around Shifa, but they severely beat them.
They blindfolded them.
They stripped them naked.
they destroyed all of their journalism equipment, you know, broadcasting equipment, cameras,
microphones, you know, I'm assuming other, you know, wire, whatever.
Yeah, right.
Plus the vehicles that have like the satellite things on them to broadcast.
To broadcast, yeah.
I mean, one of them was this Al Jazeera Arabic reporter Ismail Al-Gul who was detained for 12 hours.
He told Al Jazeera that he was beaten and stripped and blindfolded and interrogated.
and then threatened they all were you know if they made if they if they moved even an inch
the Israeli soldiers detaining them would start firing their guns in the air in order to scare them
and some of the some of the journalists are still being held somewhere nobody knows I mean
again like Israel has done this for the last five months well the last 75 years right but
especially you know when we talk about the last five and a half months
they have been disappearing people and not just random people but the physicians the head of elshifa
hospital itself um wow has been in some dungeons somewhere you know since i believe
December no one knows where he is there have been reports from people who were detained with him that
somehow uh were released saying that you know they uh the israeli soldiers have have been
torturing these doctors, including the head of El Shifa Hospital, and like putting him on a leash
and making him crawl around on the floor and eat food from a plate like a dog. I mean, just
the most Nazi shit that you can imagine. And, you know, and then they do the same to journalists.
They do the same to hospital staff. They do the same to, you know, janitors and teachers and professors
who haven't been, you know, assassinated.
I mean, it's just like there's no bottom.
There's no bottom.
Yeah.
And the war crimes are piling up.
And Biden doesn't seem to care.
Yeah.
Really seems to, at this point,
I feel like he's just,
he just is like, I just want to go to sleep.
I really, I can't wait to not be president anymore.
He should just be in like,
a, you know, a nursing facility and live out his days in some garden and not, like, co-authoring a
fucking genocide halfway around the world. Yeah. He could just imagine having the money that Joe
fucking Biden has and being like, I've lived all this life, but I haven't done a genocide yet.
Yeah. Now's my chance. Now's my chance. Fucking psychopath.
Just disgusting. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, you know,
This is just, again, you know, you just see, you know, various crimes happening all from this enormous bombardment and siege.
And, you know, it includes the killing of a, quote, Hamas policeman.
Right.
who is someone that apparently is someone who actually has been helping coordinate aid
and keeping the aid safe inside of Gaza.
And, you know, so it's just very clear what they're doing here.
And it's just, you know, it's almost like that is a microcosm of a bigger mission,
which is that no one in Gaza,
no Palestinian shall rise up to prominence
who is not, you know, you know, chosen by...
Right, a collaborator, yeah.
Yes, yes, exactly.
Yeah.
No, and since that article was published,
three more police members, you know,
of, in Gaza have been assassinated.
Christ.
Yes.
So four now in total.
over the last, like, what, 72 hours?
And all four of them were involved in coordinating humanitarian aid deliveries
from, like, you know, Israeli checkpoints to the UN facilities.
So what they're doing also is that they're punishing Palestinians for safe and secure,
successful aid distribution.
Yes.
Because they want Palestinians to just shut up and starve.
I mean, that's essentially it.
It's just so, it's just so clear.
It's just so obvious.
They've given, they haven't given anyone any reason to suspect otherwise.
Right.
And they're not even trying at this point.
The best that they can hope for is people won't care.
And I almost feel like that's what the tactic is here.
Yeah.
Is like, well, if we do enough horrendous stuff for long enough, you eventually numb out to it.
And, you know, it's probably a good plan, you know, in terms of like they can have their cake and eat it too or kill it too, you know, because they're like, you know, certainly people will grow tired of us being the worst in the world.
Right.
And, you know, unfortunately, the people who are going to continue suffering is the Palestinians and no one seems to give a shit, except for, you know, except for like human beings.
of conscience who are like talking about it.
Yeah, except for normal people.
Normal, regular guys.
Regular people.
Regular people.
Regular fucking people are the only ones who give a shit.
And then the rest, you know, there's, the rest are fucking cowards.
Freaks.
Freaks.
Yes.
So I was looking, once I saw this information, I was like, I'm interested to see
what the spin is on this one
because like this is like
how do you even fucking begin to spin this
I know you can do the regular shit
you know we found guns and money
guns and money right yeah
you know
amazing work
like we found a
you know a baby with a Hitler tattoo
yeah yeah exactly a copy of mind
confit perfectly preserved
perfectly yeah exactly
and in Hebrew for some reason
in Hebrew for some reason
But I was looking for, you know, so I was like, I'm going to go to my go-to guy, you know, the fucking spinmaster himself, the has-burista with Belista, Alon Levy.
I just, that was off top, by the way.
Amazing.
Thank you.
Well done.
And I couldn't, I didn't see anything.
And instead, I found some news about him.
and that he has been suspended.
Oh, no.
He's been suspended by, I assume, the office of the prime minister for which he worked for as the English spokesperson for, or Israel, as some people.
And I just felt like a mixture of feelings, you know, like in the one sense, I was just like, hell yeah, fuck him on the other.
since I was just like so sad because you know you don't get the content I know he was so young
don't worry he'll like probably you know get a staff position he's 100% going to be either reinstated
in the next 24 hours yeah or he's going to do the exact same job for a different branch of the
Israeli government yeah he will like John Fetterman's you know campaign or something yeah for sure but
I you know because I felt you know like we I just feel like we needed a moment to I don't know
to just remember the good times with him and and by the way Daniel Matte who couldn't be here today
said I should call this episode when the levee breaks oh perfect perfect but here is just a little bit
of an in-memorium to our favorite guy here you go
Suck my dick
Suck on my own fucking dick
And then eat my butt
Who's suck my dick
Oh shoo please suck on my nose
So eat my dick
Then we'll eat my dick
And then eat my comb
And then eat my comb
I will eat your buck
pour one out
wow
I wish I had a lighter
I would just be like
oh love you
that was for all the
image and heap heads out there
who love that song
Hide and Seek
or for the people watch
So emotional
Yeah
Wow
When he sung
suck my dick i felt that uh so speak for all of us matt yes you know i speak for the the voiceless
the voiceless many who who want uh elan levy to um eat an ass till he's um but yeah so uh rip to the real one
i i want to get into the topic of journalism uh specifically a new genre of journalism that has come out
recently. It's an exciting new genre of journalism because it's something that I feel like
I haven't seen before, but I've seen more content in it in the last two weeks than anything
else. And that is the genre of going on a news website and writing an op-ed that says something
like, well, I don't agree with Jonathan Glazer. Well, I don't like that. I don't like that.
How dare he?
How dare he do speech?
Yeah.
It is like, it's just been, like, ever since Jonathan Glazer made his Oscar acceptance speech.
And for those you, to recap, Jonathan Glazer, he is a director who won Best Foreign Film at the Oscars for a movie called Zone of Interest.
Which is incredible.
Yeah, an incredible movie about the banality of evil.
It's about the people living next.
to Auschwitz in a beautiful villa just living their godforsaken lives and doing the bureaucratic
work of mass murder which is an incredible an incredibly poignant point especially considering
you know the instead of it being a holocaust movie that puts the actual atrocities in your
face like a Schindler's List or the pianist or you know many movies this one is just it just
hints in the background and you see that you know the message there being clear about the
the way in which Nazis were not just pure rage-filled monster ideological ghouls but also
civil servants of a Holocaust, which I think is almost more scary because it means that
any one of us, you know, could be put in this position. And, you know, what would you...
It's the whole point of the movie, right? Right. Yeah. It was spectacular. Just, I just watched it a
couple nights ago. Yeah. And it is, it's one of the most haunting films I've ever seen. And it was done
so well telling yeah just kind of like constructing these characters these these genocidal freaks
these Nazis who were administering Auschwitz yeah you know kind of taking out the cartoonishness
that we've seen in decades of Hollywood movies like they were you know his the guy's wife like
really likes gardening and like he took his kids on kayaking trips down the river and like they were
you know they had like marital problems and and and and then and throughout the whole film is this like
droning kind of almost like you can't indiscernible noise the creepiest thing the creepiest thing
you like I'm getting goosebumps just like remembering it of like the the sound of extermination
and it was done so brilliantly and what it was intended for was to hold a mirror up like you were
saying to everyone to say that we are all capable of this and we have to stop it and that's what
Jonathan Glazer was trying to communicate in his film and in his speech that's 100% right
And, you know, once he gave that speech, I saw the machine working, the Hezbar machine rapidly, like, brainstorming, throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks.
Like, he kind of worded it clunkly.
He refutes his Jewishness.
Well, well, well, not too much.
Yeah.
Yeah, like Batya's dumbass.
And also like John Podharitz and all these, like, all these, you know, ghouls, you know, trying to make that.
stick and it not sticking. I think I think Megan McCain tried it too, which always lovely.
I always love Megan McCain. She's so smart. Megan McCain is just so overly familiar when it comes
to Jews that she has no problem telling any Jew in the world that they're anti-Semitic. She
believes she is, you know what she's like? She's like that image of like Calisi being like held
by it up by the yeah except for like it would take a lot of people i'm sorry i had to do it bro um
but yeah uh listen she's a big lady but what listen more to full of worms yeah more to hate filled
with worms yeah um she's like that sorry she's like that uh she's like her dad also
boogie bogey man in in oh yeah yeah nightmare before christmas yes yes she is
She's like, she's like, rips her skin open and she's just like maggots, just like falling out.
Right, except Oogie Boogie Man had talent.
Let's be real.
He could sing.
He could sing.
And he made it on his own.
You know, he didn't come from a Nepo worm guy family.
You know, he didn't have a war hero worm dad.
Anyways, so everyone was, they were trying all sorts of stuff.
And then, like, I started seeing the articles coming out where they're like, well, you know, how do we fight a, uh, a bad Jew with a voice? Oh, let's find a good Jew with a voice, right? You know? Um, and so first it was a guest column from the, uh, this is the Hollywood reporter. I produced, I produced an Austrian winning Holocaust film. And here's why I, uh, here's why Jonathan Glazier's speech was so offensive. Like, I love starting with, incredibly arrogant. Yeah.
Just the whineest bullshit.
Hey, hey, I also did.
It didn't get nominated for an Oscar.
Well, I guess it did, but still.
No, I love it, but, yeah, you produced.
Let's be real.
You produced.
What did you do?
So you put up the cash.
Yeah, you put up the cash or fucking not even.
Who the fuck knows what you did?
This guy directed it.
And you know what else he directed?
Virtual Insanity, Jamarquai.
That's cool shit.
Yeah, I heard that on the other.
episode of Bad Hasbara.
And hey, you know what?
I learned something.
Listen, listen.
He was right.
The future is made of virtual instance.
We're watching it right now.
Exactly.
Then NBC News.
Zone of interest producer refutes Jonathan Glazer's
Oscar speech.
Fundamentally disagree.
I fundamentally disagree.
Yeah, which is, I'm sorry.
But like, that is, they had to really.
People didn't watch the fucking film.
They didn't watch it.
That person, like, being a producer on the film, it was clear that they were like, say something.
Yeah.
Say something.
Which only made me respect Jonathan Glazer more, the fact that he's like, the two people behind him are like, wait, what?
Yeah, one of them was like the billionaire, very ultra right-wing Zionist producer, right?
That was the best.
Good job.
Oh, good, honestly.
And then, you know, one of my favorites was this one.
Jonathan Glazer's
speech condemned by
son of soul director
quote,
he should have stayed silent.
Good quote.
Very courageous shit.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We want to do a genocide.
Yeah, you know what they say?
Silence is helping or something.
I think it's silence is violins,
which are good.
It's something like that.
It rhymes.
silence is
wild and I don't know
but my absolute favorite
was
an article that came out
I think maybe today or last night
I read it this morning
because it's my favorite
because it is not just
your you know average
I think
it's also a movie review
written by
someone who doesn't understand movies.
Awesome.
So this is from CNN, and I'm going to share it with everyone here.
CNN Opinion, and, you know, the opinions expressed in this
are not necessarily those of the blah, blah, blah.
Let me see if I can make this look good on the fucking thing.
Oh, there we go.
Okay.
So it's opinion.
Zone of interest.
A Holocaust movie.
without Jews.
Oh, so that's the angle they're going.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Which is like an insane, it's, it's an insane angle for, for like multiple reasons.
One of them, because it's like, it's choosing to not understand movies.
Very intensely. Yeah. With, with clear intention.
Yes.
And it's about fucking Auschwitz.
It's so clearly an artistic choice that ended up making it more potent.
And they're just like, what happened in the Jews, huh?
It's like, you've got to, so this is by, let's see, what's his name, Peter Rutland.
I don't know Peter Rutland.
Director Jonathan Glazer's acclaimed movie, The Zone of Interest, recently won two Oscars for Best International Feature Film and for Sound.
Steven Spielberg has declared to be the best Holocaust film since his own Schindler's List came out in 1993.
In his Oscar acceptance speech, Glazer, who himself is Jewish, invoked the Holocaust to criticize Israel's military actions in Gaza.
His speech drew some praise, but also some criticism from the Jewish community, including from one of the movie's executive producers, Danny Cohen.
But in some important respects, the film is even more troubling than Glazer's speech.
Oh, my God.
He goes on to talk about how much he doesn't understand movie.
The film documents a mundane life of the family of Auschwitz's commandant, Rudolf Hess, and his wife, Hedwig.
While the atrocities themselves are kept out of sight behind the concentration camp wall, it was inspired by the 2014 novel of the same name.
and what the satiric movie Saltburn does for the English upper class.
Was it satiric?
I don't know.
Saltburn was...
Yeah, it's kind of hard to nail down the genre of Saltburn, but okay.
But you say what the satiric movie Saltburn does for the English upper class,
zone of interest is doing for national socialism.
What the fuck?
Fucking it in its grave?
Like, that's...
What?
You've seen Saltburn.
At one point, he fucks a grave.
It's pretty great.
Oh, my God.
Comparing this to Salt Bird is just, it's such a funny misunderstanding of what this movie is.
Well, the evil of Nazism is an abstraction in the movie.
Is it?
Yeah, that's also not the point.
He didn't see it.
He didn't see it.
I don't think he saw it.
Or he saw it while he was, like, incredibly drunk or something.
Or something.
I mean, he maybe is playing phone games.
I don't know.
In the movie, out of sight, out of mind.
Viewers are invited to identify with the daily life of the family, Huss.
The lush images of the film convey an idyllic family life.
I don't know.
Meccanilly clean house and Bountiful Garden.
Yeah.
That's the fucking point of the movie, of the film.
The Nazis loved their children and their pets.
They played the piano.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So do you.
That's the point.
That's the point.
Oh, I love it so much.
Glazer has explained that his goal was to show, did he have to explain?
No, that's the point of a film.
That's the explanation.
It's to show that the perpetrators of the Holocaust were not monsters, but humans, just like us.
It could have happened anywhere to anyone, to buy anyone.
Viewers are invited to consider
that as we go out about our mundane lives,
evil is taking place somewhere behind a wall,
which we choose not to look over.
Gaza, hello, how is this not?
I mean, it's just so clear.
Oh, my God.
But his whole point is like, he's about to say,
but we have to understand is that, like,
the Nazis, they didn't play piano.
They didn't love their dogs.
They're evil monsters from the hell.
Cartoonishly evil.
Right.
Yes.
Whereas we,
are a fun-loving people.
We go swim in the ocean.
We go to Tel Aviv and, you know, we try shrooms and wear capri pants and listen to infected
mushroom.
And join the Israeli army.
Yeah, yeah, but an army of self-defense.
Exactly.
Like, so, but this whole idea of making a Nazi pastoral film is historically misleading and
frankly offensive, right?
As Israeli film critic, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Let's see, Glazer has managed to make a film about the Holocaust
in which we never see any Jews.
Once again, yes.
That's the point.
My favorite part is eventually he just starts talking about how also the movie is confusing.
I didn't got it.
I didn't got it.
He, you know, he's talking about like, you know,
know. This is all stuff he got from Wikipedia, by the way.
Yes. Yeah, clearly. He didn't, he never knew the term banality of evil before. He clearly didn't know it. And I think mid article, he actually, he says it. Um, uh, he says it mid article. And then I think later he looked it up and wrote the rest of the article. That's exactly. Because he heard it from someone else. Right. Yeah. Yeah. He said, uh, because he's talking about how people were, you know, comparing it to, uh, you know, different things, uh, different beliefs. Um,
you know, an audience member
saw connections to the don't say gay law
in Florida. That was in a Q&A
after the film. But the Holocaust happened
to the Jews and at the hands
of Nazis and their
collaborators. And its
specificity should not be diluted into a
general meditation on the banality of evil.
Which, by the way,
a general meditation on the banality of evil.
It's very clear
from that sentence. He did not
quite know where that phrase came
from. No. And then later,
Claeser's echoing elements of the banality of evil argument laid out by Hannah Arendt.
But Arendt was wrong.
Oh.
Okay.
She was wrong.
She was wrong.
Mr. Bigshot here.
Oh, Mr. Smart guy got opinions.
Carragious steps here.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you considered I smarter?
But Arrent was wrong.
this is due to the release of long hidden tapes that started to become available in the 2010s
turns out that Nazi official while in exile in Argentina was in fact a ideological zealot
and deeply committed to national socialism as opposed to a bureaucrat who is following orders type thing
you know because the two can't be the same no the two can't be the same no no no they can't exist
Yes, no. You're either an ideological, like, bigot monster, or you're a perfectly neutral, good guy, bureaucrat.
There's no such thing as nuance.
But, yeah, so.
Wow, that is a shit article.
I know. It is, like, wild.
It's wild.
Let's see.
So one of my favorite moments, the zone of interest.
is rather tedious as a film.
It barely has a plot.
Jesus Christ.
The conversations and daily routines are repetitious.
Yeah.
That's the movie.
You can't.
At some point in the movie, you had to be like, oh, okay, I see what they're doing.
Yeah.
But no, he's pretending like he was mad about it.
I agree.
He didn't see it.
No, I would not have known what happened.
Several scenes will leave viewers confused.
Oh, this is great.
Such as the one where Hess finds a jawbone while fishing in the river and drags his kids out of the water.
I would not have known what was happening, except I had previously read in a review that there was human remains.
Supposedly.
Supposedly.
He didn't watch it because you can see this giant cloud of ash, like turning the river into a great.
like toxic sludge.
It is, it is so clear that this was someone who is like, listen, I didn't see this movie.
I'm not going to pay to see this movie.
I read a review of this movie.
Looked like Wikipedia.
I asked Siri.
Siri, define banality of evil.
Yeah, yeah.
Define banality.
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't know what that meant.
Yeah.
Define banal.
Pornhub.
Define anal.
um yeah so like it's just very clear because there's no fucking way like a regular person who's seen this movie would feel you have to be really into public humiliation to write that uh you wouldn't have known what was happening when there is a jawbone found in the river and he's running away with his kids like that is it's it's wonderful the lengths people will go to yeah
The lengths that people will go to in order to discredit this fucking Oscar speech.
Yeah.
Right.
And it says a lot.
It says it says everything about them.
Yes.
Everything.
What they're really defending.
I mean, it's so, so craven.
It's so craven.
He's like literally willing to write something that makes them look like the biggest idiot in the world.
Like someone who, like it makes.
makes you think, like, maybe you should need a license to see a movie, you know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
Like, like, I mean, my second grader could have, I won't let him see the film until he's ready.
Yeah.
But he could have, he would have picked up more nuance and meaning from watching that film than this fucking guy.
It's very clear to an adult, it's very clear.
But it's like people are, they're willing to when it comes to Zion.
and protecting Israel and protecting their Zionist racist beliefs that they have also shrouded in some sort of righteous, you know, packaging.
Yeah.
They need to be right to the point where they're willing to humiliate themselves.
It's amazing.
And I think nothing says that more than very recently.
Over a thousand Jewish creatives and professionals have now denounced.
Jonathan Glazer's Zone of Interest, Oscar's Speech.
This was an article that was put in, it's in variety.
It's also a constantly, it's constantly being updated.
Yeah, because they made the petition public.
You don't need to be a member of, you know, SAG after anything.
No.
You can just put your, so this is how they're inflating their numbers
and laundering this like completely contrived, you know, so-called controversy.
it's so disgusting it's so disgusting and it's just so again it's just like so fucking clear
like what this is about this isn't about like saying anything of substance yeah this is clearly
about overwhelming the system overwhelming the news cycle where there's going to be you know there was
one news cycle about like damn that was a crazy speech um and then just two weeks now it feels like
constant barrage of, I didn't like that speech. I didn't like that speech.
Or like, oh, my agents on this list, I better sign it too.
Yes, exactly.
I mean, yeah.
It's almost like it's a, it's like a reverse blacklist, you know, it's like a white
list. Yeah.
It's, it's straight up exists in order to, to intimidate anyone in the entertainment
industry into, you better fucking sign this. If you are a Jew and a home,
Hollywood, which is, again, this is like this incredibly anti-Semitic thing, too, to force any Jewish
person to, you know, it's either your job or your, you know, you either support Israel publicly
or it's your fucking job. Like, that is an insanely anti-Semitic thing to do. It's completely,
and it wouldn't be, it wouldn't be accepted in any other instance for anybody, you know,
No, it's just fucking crazy.
It's disgusting.
And look, I mean, just the names like.
Yeah.
Debra messing.
Yeah.
Michael Rappaport.
I got to say, one of the funniest things about this, someone pointed out to me,
he said, I don't know whose decision it was to do this in alphabetical order by first name.
First name.
But that is a stupid way of doing it.
We got all the Adams.
All of the Adams.
Yeah.
Okay.
Adam, Adam, Adam, Adam.
All of the All of the Allen's.
Only one Amy.
Is that the Amy?
I mean, it's Amy Greenberg, actor, writer.
Not Amy Schumer?
Oh, no, no, no.
Interesting.
Interesting.
No, Amy Schumer.
She's probably signed a list that's like, actually, we have to, like, use a quadcopter on Jonathan Glaser.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, it's a much crazier list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me, you know, just for fun, let me just see if we got.
let's see how many freedmans are on there
oh no let's see
no relation no relation
Adam Friedman
CAA I don't know him
wait a second
Adam
do you know him
oh I'm sorry
you know what I was singing of
I was
I was singing of the
the comtown guy
oh
Adam Friedland's
different guy
that would be very
different guy
very different guy
very different
That would be very funny if he signed this list.
Oh, shit.
What other freedmen's are there on there?
I want to see if you need to denounce my...
Oh, wait, no, hold on.
There's probably more.
I forgot.
It's not an alphabetical order.
There's, let's see.
There's a freed son.
Noam Friedlander?
No.
Looks like...
Oh, wow.
Okay, so Adam's the only one.
Adam's the only one.
Well, okay.
Hopefully we're not really...
How about Lebes?
Fuck.
Six Leeds.
Brian Leibman.
Oh, here we go. This is a different guy. Leibman Entertainment. Nice.
Erica Lieberman, Jody Lieberman, Mark Lieber, Sharon Leibling, and Brian Leibman, and yeah. Okay, good job, good job. The leave name is not sullied.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, but, you know, still in there. So you pointed out that this was like clearly an online petition that like anyone could fill out.
And I think what makes that clear was the way that some people chose to put their, where they are in the industry and what they do in the industry.
Have you seen Michael Rappaport?
No.
Michael Rappaport.
There we go.
Actor disruptor.
Actor.
I love this.
What does that mean?
Well, you know how like he's someone who disrupts, you know.
know you're for cash apparently yeah right you just disrupts your vision of what you know you
of him because you're like oh shit i thought you were like an irish dude from boston i always thought
yeah i just seemed like a racist and a self-texture yeah exactly um you're jewish oh it just like this
is just it's just so insane and it just feels uh like such a clear um attack on
the entertainment industry and and this attack on jonathan glazer it's you know what it is it's
an attack on there better not be anyone fucking else yeah no one else better say shit
because look at all of the uh writers directors actors agents uh managers producers uh managers
producers look at all these people who sign this and you look at these names and you're just
like i don't fucking know these people yeah like you know and a like a lot of people wouldn't be
household names but at the same time i'm like i still feel like this is you know uh even if
some of these people are anything in hollywood it's like this is a list of mostly assistants who are
people who are like in entertainment the way i'm in entertainment which is like you know scraping
scraping by um doing your best doing my best you know trying to provide for my family yeah um
And that's not to, you know, denigrate any of their careers, but it's like the list itself is like bullshit.
It's like you got, you know, a million people you've never heard of and then Noah Tishby.
It's just.
Miami-Ollic.
Yes.
It's so clearly meant to make any other Jewish anti-Zionists or just Jewish critics of Israel, period.
Yeah.
It's meant to intimidate you.
And, you know, it doesn't do a very good job when, like, the biggest people I see on here are like, like, Tishby and I think Amy Sherman Palladino.
I thought she signed it on.
Amy.
Yeah.
Amy Sherman.
Amy Sherman.
You know her as the creator of Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.
Oh.
Oh.
Yeah.
One of my least favorite shows.
one of the most anti-Semitic shows in existence.
Yeah, well, listen, listen, I like the first season.
I remember being like, oh, this is fun, mostly because I love Tony Shaloo.
Well, he's great.
I'm just going to look, just, let's just make sure.
Tony Shalub, not on the list.
Great.
I mean, that's also, it's also a good list because, like, I know a lot of people in, in, in the business,
through, you know, family connections.
who are Jewish and anti-Zionist and have been working for decades and know that they can't speak out.
All right.
I mean, so, you know, the people who are not on that list is also very significant.
Very significant.
And I think that is clear just based on the makeup of the list.
And I've said this before from the beginning of this whole thing, this concerted attempt
by Hasbarist to frame this as something that all the Jews of the world agree on
is total and utter horseshit.
It is not something.
It is something that, in fact, very famously amongst Jews, argued about ad nauseum.
Yeah, and we'll be arguing about it after Zionism has collapsed.
After it's long gone, and people are trying to be like, you know, that was a really good idea.
Yeah.
You know, the revisionist of the future that we're inventing in our heads.
The beautiful, beautiful vision.
Yeah.
And so, like, you know, one of the things I was saying, it's just like, I know tons of Jewish people in Hollywood who are reaching, number one, reaching out to me who are just like, hey, good job, by the way.
Thank you for doing that.
I'm not going to do it.
It's not because I'm a pussy.
But I also, I just got this job.
And I really just don't want, and I'm like, I get it, I get it.
I'm also like, come on, but also I get it.
Also, I get it.
I get it.
And I'm also like, come on.
Because there are more of us than there are of them.
Zionism as this like ideologically sound, like this, this immovable ideology amongst the diaspora and amongst American Jews is a small, it's,
I would say it's not an insignificant percentage,
but it is not an overwhelming percentage.
It is something that people, you know, they equivocate and they, you know,
they posture.
They'll be like, well, I don't believe in this and I do believe in that.
But this, as this, you know, genocide is like continued on and on,
the people that I know who at first were like mad at me,
they're not saying shit no more.
They're saying fucking nothing.
It's become very clear to people who were maybe on the fence or didn't know that much at the beginning or wanted to believe the lies that they were told in Shul when they were eight years old.
Now they're like, holy fuck, this is what this is what Zionism is.
This is what this project was all about.
Get like, count me out, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's clear.
And I think like there's still obvious.
Obviously, some people who are, you know, have some pull in Hollywood who are never going to let this fucking go.
They're always going to support.
They'll support Israel no matter what they do.
They literally made that clear.
But again, this list is-
We can shame them for it.
Yes, we can shame them for it.
They sign their names to this list.
The beautiful thing, this is a public list.
And I'll be very interested to see how it gets edited over the next few weeks.
weeks, months, years.
Who knows?
But yeah, yeah, that is, that's that.
Amazing.
Before we go, Nora.
Oh, no.
Before we go.
I'm having so much fun, Matt Leap.
Well, we're going to have a little bit more fun.
Oh, joy.
Hooray.
I want to talk about one more subject with you.
I recently saw, you know, there's been a lot of, I would call it,
Genocidal hip hop
Coming out of Israel
Like really insane stuff
And you know
What's interesting is
With hip hop
And that
As as
Music
Goes it's like
Music is a beautiful universal thing
And some people
Take music
Like the Brits for example
They took Chicago
Trap music
and they said we're going to make our own version of this like and they created this like UK crime sound which is fucking fantastic I love it it's what some of my favorite hip hop music currently
and then sometimes that music is taken by a culture like Israeli so you mean stolen yeah sometimes it delves into stolen and cultural appropriation
And when it comes to Israeli hip hop, it's interesting because it runs the gamut.
But recently, it's been very, very, like, genocidal in nature.
We played that one song that was like some fucking psychopath being like,
we're going to kill Dula Lipa and Bella Hadid and stuff.
And then there was a new one that came out that I want to play a little bit of.
And it's under a grime beat.
it could be there's
some way
there's a
some of
two,
three,
two,
shalan,
Yarras
Ra'i't
we've seen we
here we're
we're starting to
Arabit
a shavit
as naiim
to hear
So
Jesus
Yes, so
just for those
listening
I'll tell you
the
the lyrics
here,
they started off
with
Ahlan
Sahlan
means welcome
in Arabic
Oh, I like that. Okay. Welcome to Gaza. You see how we changed the, the, changed a phrase, a phase. We started speaking Arabic. It's a contemporary language. So nice to meet you. Say hello. This is the Air Force. They've come to charge the price. They're not knocking on rooftops anymore. Today, there are no warnings. It rhymes in Hebrew.
barely
we have nothing
to wait for launch
IDF is like 10 plagues
launch
Givati is in
the north combined with
combat engineer forces
just scrolling through this
is difficult
it's the Army of God
he doesn't just act cruelly
he's more of a wooer
he's more of a wooer
He's more of a wooer.
Okay.
And he's wearing a kaffia.
Yes, yes, you know.
And also, you know, he's like, he looks, I think, you know, maybe he's an Ethiopian Jew,
Betta Israel, and like, you know, he's trap wrapping with some other, you know, like,
Lily White Israelis.
Yeah, ooh, I want to hear her.
I bet she's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We wanted to dance in nature, but we were slaughtered, so we'll make sure that Gaza turns into a happy amusement part.
We'll blow up your lie for free and your house.
There's one truth whether or not you like it.
The people of Israel live.
Gross.
Yes.
So it's trash.
It's total.
oops total trash uh just like you know it's trash and it's fucking like again this like thing
where they've taken a genre of music that is uh not so that the oppressor can brag about
oppressing let's say um but if you're the eternal victim yeah right then you get to brag about
genocide yes you need that kind of inversion of the reality in order to do it because
you need to be the eternal victim.
You need to frame yourself that way.
Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense.
Otherwise, you're just going to look in the mirror one day
and just see the Nazi that you are.
What's interesting to me is the, you know,
there's something about like the kind of right-wing pro-genocide,
is really hip-hop that I'm like, yeah, you know,
this thing about right-wing Zionists,
is they just kind of like say the things that...
They're honest, at least.
honest yeah they just say what they're feeling but then i started thinking about like you know i wonder
if like there's any liberal zionists who have done any songs are they like with an acoustic guitar
at like whatever cochella maybe but i actually found one oh no sure did so sorry uh found one by
some sort of
Hollywood writer named Lee Kern.
Oh no.
Wait, he makes music?
Well? I mean music and
quotes. You're gonna
find out. If you wanted to know why I had
to push the episode about 10 minutes, it was
to finish this. Enjoy.
Heck yeah.
This is also
a grimeish type beef.
I'm a liberal
god, but sometimes kids
gotta die.
I saw a free parking sign
Thought it said free palestine
Yeah
Oh no
This is Jew born and raised with western views
Yeah this is self-defense
So pick your neck off of me boot
Please
Isn't it
Israeli none of your business
This is my land
You can tell by me accent
My own land is threatened
I'm from the mean of via western
And my white skin is red and
Because the sun is anti-semit
Arabs say guys make all the ladies them cover their face
It's a disgrace because we love the gay and if you don't know us I hope you get AIDS bitch
I love old people
Arabs are genetically predisposed to hating women
If you don't believe me you're a fucking twalk you are
And I hope you'll must find you yeah
And I hope they corner you on the street and
I love old people
You can tell because I drew a heart with the dread to me take
I respect all cultures
But you better be locked the west all you're gonna get banked
And stripped, lit up, split up British shit
Set up Jewish settle myths
Pick up TikTok, do a dance
But that ain't me though
Haven't I always been ripe by your side
Whether you're black, purple, yellow or white
Even support the creation of free Palestine are psych
Clay coat, cut it, write it, done it, go
Good or bad, it's hard to tell
Going fast for Israel
BB is bad
Wish he was gone, so peace could be here
But this is a war
Yeah
So I support him
Like he was my dad
Or maybe me nan
I love me nan
I am against the occupied
But I trust a plan
So I'm a defendant
As long as I can
These Arabs are racist
It's not a wall
It's a quarantine shit is contagious
It's not a genocide
It's a vaccine
It's containment
Yeah
Some people think shooting fish
In a barrel is courageous
Don't care what the
Ozzy Jais is
Well that's
Matt, that slaps.
I'm so, that is, that was so.
What do you mean, Matt?
That wasn't me.
I mean, Lee Kern, Lee Kern.
Oh, my God.
Oh, thank you for that.
I needed that.
Oh, yeah.
I don't put that out on the, on the Twitters.
Yeah, I'm going to put that out.
You know, sometimes you, uh, sometimes you just love trap music so much that you have to make a liberal
science track.
it's uh yeah i'll be i'll be putting i'll put the full song out of you know at the end of the
episode or something but uh yeah i'll put it out too anyways it was great like i would listen to
that it is uh it's okay there's a few lines in there that i'm really proud of like when he says
i even support uh the creation of free palestine and he says psych he co cut it run it done it go
I mean compare that to like the like the like the just like oatmeal you know whatever lyrics that that one song that you played or like yeah yeah just like really like we're trying to dance yeah totally so now we have to kill all of you yeah fun yeah amazing no it just I mean yeah no we have to laugh we have to we have to and we have to you know you
are creative abilities to make the dumbest shit in the world.
It's so fun because I just was like,
this is for this moment and no other moment in the world.
So worth it.
So good.
Oh, Matleev, you're a treasure.
You're a treasure, Nora.
You are.
I love having you on.
Thank you so much again for coming back on Bad Hezvara.
My pleasure.
And once again, so everyone should know, where can people find you and find your work?
Go to electronic intifada.net.
I'm also on Twitter at Nora BF, as in best friend.
Yeah, she is best friend.
That's right.
She's best friend of pod.
That's right.
You're wonderful.
Thanks, you're wonderful.
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next time from the river to the sea me like trap music from the ukie that's a really slant
rhyme that jumping jacks was us push-ups was us grab my god us all karate us taking molly us
Michael Jackson, us, Yamaha keyboards, us, Georgia makes not us, Andor was us, Heath Ledger
Joker us, endless red success, happy meals was us, McDonald's was us, being happy us,
bequem yoga us, eating food, us, breathing air, us, drinking water us, we invented all that shit.
I'm a liberal guy, but sometimes kids got to die.
I saw a free parking sign, thought it said free Palestine.
Yeah.
Isn't it?
Israeli none of your business
You what?
This is my land
You can tell for me accent
My homeland is threatened
I'm from the mean of via western
And my white skin is red and
Because the sun is anti-semitic
Arabs, hey guys, make all the ladies
them cover their face
It's a disgrace because we love the guys
And if you don't like us I hope you get AIDS
Bitch
I'm a good guy
I'm a good guy
I'm a bad guy
I'm a bad guy now
Arabs are genetically predisposed to hating women
If you don't believe me, you're a fucking twop you are.
And I hope you must find you, yeah.
And I hope they corner you on the street.
I love old people.
You can tell because I drew a heart with the dread to me tank.
I respect all cultures.
But you better be like the West all you're going to get banked.
And stripped, lit up, split up British shit.
Set up Jewish settlements.
Pick up TikTok, do a dance.
But that ain't me, though.
Haven't I always been right by your side?
Whether you're black, purple, yellow or?
even support the creation of free Palestine are psych
Cleek coat cut it write it done it go good or bad it's hard to tell going fast for
Israel BB is bad wish he was gone so peace could be had but this is a war
yeah so I support him like he was my dad or maybe me nan I love me nan I am against the
occupied lands but I trust the plan so I'm a defender as long as I can these
Arabs are racist it's not a wall it's a
Quarantine shit is contagious
It's not a genocide, it's a vaccine, it's contained me, yeah
Some people think shooting fish in a barrel is courageous
Don't care what the ICJ says
Palestinians is problematic
Which means they need to die
Everyone knows
It's complicated
I believe in peace, I believe in love, inequality
I believe in all that liberal stuff
Which is why Palestinians should be exterminated
Oopsie dice
More than two things can be true
Arabs I matter a lot less than Jews
Borett was not as good as Borett too
Yeah
Be brain hurts
Because it is late
Current Adam is called
I am ugly and I am bold
Water and oil
It's my political evolution
Blood and soil
Yeah
Mix him up that's a two state solution