Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 26: Literal False Flags, with Rafael Shimunov & Francesca Fiorentini

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Today Matt is joined by Francesca Fiorentini (The Bitchuation Room) and Rafael Shimunov (Beyond The Pale) We talked about the campus encampments and zionist agitators.Visit Drop The ADL to learn more....Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Mashwam hot bitch, a ribbon book of dough. We invented the terry tomato and weighs USB drives and the iron d'all. Israeli salad, oozy, stent, and jopas orange rose. Micro chips is us. iPhone cameras us. Taco salads us. Both al-Abamos us. Olive garden us.
Starting point is 00:00:22 White foster us. Zabrahamaas. As far as us. everyone and welcome to Bad Hasbara, the world's most moral podcast. It is I, Matt Leib, your most moral host in the whole world. Thank you so much for listening to this podcast again. If this is your first time here, welcome. This is a podcast about Israeli propaganda and, you know, about other stuff too, but mostly that. It's mostly about that. And the women who love them. And the women who love them you know behind every good you know propaganda is a is a girl propaganda who you know
Starting point is 00:01:06 she's got eyelashes yeah yeah that's how you know it's a girl you're so good at lying and then they rub rub on each other's shoulders i just want to uh first say to everyone out there in this world all these most moral listeners uh thank you so much for all of the love and support that you have shown this podcast i'm really happy that people have found it um been getting a lot of of nice letters from people who listen and are so happy to have at least somewhere on the internet or in the audio world in which you can feel not insane. I just want to let people know you are not insane. You're probably normal. And, you know, so good for you. You'll see right next to me is one of my most moral other co-hosts. One of my most moral wives. One of my
Starting point is 00:01:59 Suppose my other horror wife. Of all of my wives, she's the most moral. The rest of them, disgusting. Disgusting hogs, you know? They're just about sex all the time. But not her. Okay, all right. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Ladies and gentlemen, everyone else, welcome. Francesca Fiorentini from the Bituation Room. That's right. That is a podcast and a live stream. what's up. Yeah. I'm very happy to be here. There has been far too much going on.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And Matt and I usually have like bonus bad has bar conversations late at night. Yeah, that's what we do. We kind of live inside a perpetual podcast in which we're both talking to each other about the horrors of the world. And so it's nice to occasionally get those, you know, on camera. Yeah, yeah. All the things, exactly, all the things I can't say on a podcast with you. Yeah, she can say all of them to me, and I just, you know, internalize them. I am, I am talking to the ADL right now about what my options are.
Starting point is 00:03:11 But, you know, she's a wonderful, wonderful podcast or wonderful comedian and also one of the most wonderful wives I've ever had. And, yeah, before we go on, I want to tell people, you can, when you're listening on Spotify, you can give us comments. Did you know that? You can like go into each episode and be like, I liked the episode. So do that. Please. And then give it like five stars and stuff. That helps. Also, you know, I've been pushing people to listen to the podcast rather than watch it because of all the, you know, ad revenue that we actually get from people listening as opposed to YouTube, which steals the manis. Um, and, uh, one of- YouTube is the worst platform. It really is. It's like 95% of YouTube. creators live below the poverty line or something two of them are in this room i know yeah yeah well
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Starting point is 00:04:50 everything is there. You can also get bonus episodes eventually. You can also get just a bunch of random extra content so please join patreon.com slash bad hasbara also last but not least um well second the last but not least shout out to producer adam levin we love you and last but not least uh the reddit um our slash bad has barra is uh about to die uh it is what yeah so um there's been a concerted effort by other subredits to try to get it banned. And we are now on our last warning about some rule about like if you post content from other subredits, then that is considered doxing. Oh, they got you on a technicality. Yeah, yeah. So we're on our last warning for that, which, you know, it's been an amazing ride. I hope it keeps going. Shout out to all the mods there
Starting point is 00:05:49 who are honestly working overtime for free on this thing. And they've grown. It's thrown it to a degree that has been amazing to watch. What can we do? All you can do is join R slash Bad Hasbara and go on there and, you know, just have a good time. It's a lot of fun. And, you know, the mods do a good job of filtering out all the Zionist psychos and all of the Nazi psychos who like to brigade the page.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So please join. Sometimes those are the same thing. Often they are. I'm not allowed to say that, though, under new legislation. laws and we will get to that today but anyways join the subreddit uh it's it's a lot of fun most of the people don't know it's about a podcast enjoy yourself okay guys this is matt leave i'm the host of hey guys thanks so much who the fuck are you and just like oh shit um i i don't know i'm the guy who made the podcast uh this is i made
Starting point is 00:06:48 the sub doesn't matter uh have fun and then i run away post meme uh post meme bye bye okay today I want to introduce our most moral guest because today you're you're our most moral co-host oh oh fun you know just so you know that's it's a very important anyways never been the most moral co-host yeah you've always been the most immoral you know I'm saying hey but our most moral guest on the podcast today he is a wonderful wonderful human being a good friend of both of ours. This is a guy who's an activist.
Starting point is 00:07:28 We have been politically active with him. We've done, I think we did some. We were in Nevada knocking doors for Bernie together back in 2020. Yes, we did. Back in the before time, the long, long ago. He is also the co-host of Beyond the Pale Radio for the Jewish Left in New York City, the big apple. Hey, I'm walking here and I'm welcoming Raphael.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Well, Shimonov, ba, bah, bah, bah. How you doing? I'm walking here. Hey, where you do? Hey, I'm canvassing for Bernie over here. Occasionally, you, like, bump into someone with that accent, and then you just, like, stand there, like, you're at the Smithsonian, and just, in its glory, and you just, like, soak in as much as possible. You see that guy?
Starting point is 00:08:17 What was he doing? He was just walking here. It's so funny, because I was in New York after 9-11, and so. So, like, the sound of, like, a racist love it or leave it is just that. Is, like, a Staten Island guy going, like, you don't like it? Yeah. Get the fuck out. Hey.
Starting point is 00:08:37 What are you doing in a beautiful country if you ain't going to eat the cabalgo? I'm suffering blowback here. Like, that's, it is very that accent for me. It's so sad to hear about the Reddit thread because I know. The way I viewed it, like. Do you remember that song, like, what if God is one of us? Absolutely. I always thought it was very deep.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's so sad that you could go in that Reddit and no one recognizes you, the creator. Yeah, the God. And you're just like moping, you know, like they might even rob you or kill you. And they wouldn't know they're just like killing their Jesus. I know, just a stranger on a bus trying to get some up votes. But it's also like it kind of shows like maybe the, I don't know, the, the, the, inspiration that God had to like remind humanity that he created them like maybe you need to like copy that maybe you need to like send down a couple of tablets and you know something to really like
Starting point is 00:09:35 you know create I thought I thought you're going to say you know do a flood murder yeah that murder some people arbitrarily when they don't listen to what you wrote in the tablets about recognizing you and how fabulous you are you how you get to flood them I you know what Are you like the cue of Bad Hasbara? Dude, I mean, basically, I am the cue. You should just start creating drops. Everyone's like, what the fuck? All my cue drops are just me saying,
Starting point is 00:10:03 please like and subscribe. What if God, what if we're just God's content? You ever think about that? Whoa. Oh, shit, dude. What if we're all monetized? Yo, dude. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But I want to thank you so much. Ralph for being here because you're someone who I've wanted to get on the podcast for a while and you're also how I touch base with what's going on in New York and it seems to be these days
Starting point is 00:10:36 that New York is sort of a mecca for a lot of the anti-Zionist, anti-occupation anti-genocide gatherings, protests, encampments what have you. and every time I look at your Instagram
Starting point is 00:10:55 I get jealous I get real jealous it looks like god damn it looks like a lot of fun it looks like the place to be that's always like man all these yeah anti-Zionist Jews in Brooklyn know what's all they all know it's
Starting point is 00:11:10 yeah and and it just feels like you know it's like we we have a lot of great solidarity here in Los Angeles but nothing beats the big ass So what's, what's it been like? How's it been? It's been, you know, we've had a long, you know, and Francesco is, of course, part of like the assembly of all this, like from the anti-war activists in like NYU there and then into Occupy and into all the things. We kept being trained and
Starting point is 00:11:39 retrained and a lot of things emerged here from all of those different movements. So, yeah, yeah, I am really lucky to be. And also sometimes it's a little hard because Once you leave the bubble, you face reality, and a lot of people are not there yet. But in this case, which is refreshing, is most people are with us. If they're explained to, like, the simplest term possible without the Hasbara, without the racism, without the capitalism, like, just, like, really just purely delivered, these are children being murdered. Do you support children being murdered? And the answer is unanimously, nearly unanimously. Yeah, the answer is, depends.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Right. It is like when I was in the anti-war movement 2003 and 5, and I was at NYU, and thank you so much for the shout-out. I mean, I obviously orchestrated all this. You were like the god of the anti-war movement. I was. I was. I was.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I was. No, but we could have never imagined the campus police calling in the NYPD. on us. They were around and there were some scuffles in certain moments. But I think the level of cooperation is truly disgusting. But I will say on the flip side, the militancy of some of these specifically Jewish-led actions, you know, whether it's a Grand Central Station shutting down. I mean, that, you know, we had February 15th, 2003, where basically the entire city was shut down from anti-war protesters. But like these targeted actions, I think, have been so inspiring and mass target action.
Starting point is 00:13:22 When we were, when was Rachel Corey killed in 2005, I think? She, friends of mine locked down on the Upper West Side. I mean, full chicken wire like arms locked down at about 10 of them. And they were very hostily treated. They were in the Diamond District. So like, you know, it was they knew where they were. They had coffee thrown on them. But I'm just like, if I like to imagine that we were so.
Starting point is 00:13:49 sowing the seeds and that so much of the work around Palestine solidarity has been a long slog that finally we are seeing the beautiful fruits of in how mainstream it's all become. But also I do feel like New York actions tend to be really disempowering just because there's so much cop presence. But lately, I mean, and you've seen that in Colombia, but I do feel like some of them I've been breaking through like, oh no, this is like legit, beautiful. Like the like I said, Grand Central Station, fuck, you know. I mean, we hit them to such a point where they were tired of arresting us. There was no more room.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Damn. And sometimes that actually backfires a little bit because, like, there's all these little intricacies of, like, mass arrests where they're going to bring out flexicuffs because they don't have enough handcuffs. Right. And so in the flexicuffs, they don't want to take them on and off when you go to jail. So they just leave them on you the whole time you're there. So people are now, like, have, like, permanent injuries, nerve damage and things like that
Starting point is 00:14:45 from being eight hours, 10 hours. 12 hours in Flexicoves behind their back. But yeah, totally like overwhelming the system. The funniest part about it is, I don't know if it's a recent development, Francesca, but like when we're arrested now, like in Grand Central and the Statue of Liberty and all of this in front of Schumer's house, whose co-op now hates him and wants him out because of us. So there's this like new thing. I think it's new.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I don't know. Maybe I didn't notice it before. But now the cop that arrests you during an. action has to follow you through the system. So from every jail you go to, every car you go to everything. And then there's this point where you stand like a prom picture. Like you both take a picture near each other. Yeah. And they've got like their arm around you. They're just like taken and they're like there like it's like it's a picture that's just like deserving of a corsage. I'm going to try to get like a. That's amazing. I'll try to do like a freedom of information of like some
Starting point is 00:15:44 of our arrests and just like photoshop. Oh. Yeah. That would be so sick to have that. They're exhausted, yeah. I remember my arresting officer from the RNC back in 2004. O'Doyle, that bitch. Fucking O'Doyle. Doyle does not rule. No, he does not.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I kept on just, like, yelling his name, and he had gone, they clearly had gone to sleep. Like, he went home as we were, like, in, like, a pier over on, whatever, Pier 51 or some shit on the West Side. But, yeah, that is. I mean, it's so crazy like how politicizing it is too like how radicalizing it is
Starting point is 00:16:22 once you do get arrested and then you're suddenly in the system and then suddenly you're in like jail with like random like nonviolent drug offenders and you just start you just you know Yeah and like most of the jail time I've had was with deliveristas people who are delivering fast food and are nabbed up constantly by the police
Starting point is 00:16:40 because they're on like a motorized vehicle like a scooter or something like that and it's just like yeah it's it's unbelievable. So you're saying that like some people like aren't getting their seamless? Yeah. So like the cop will call seamless, get his food and then arrest the person. And then eat the food? Yeah. And then eat the fucking pigs. That's why we call him pigs, y'all. But yeah, uh, yeah, it's O'Doyle doing it. We should just whisper. Next I mean, he told his Panda Express. Next time. Next time you just be like, the real Irish
Starting point is 00:17:12 hate you. O'Don. Yeah. I know, right? You know. God, just the gap, the valley between American Irish and the real Irish is so wide. It's insane. It is wide. But yeah, it's interesting. We talk about kind of like the actions that have been going on, you know, in college campuses and the way that it's talked about, it's so funny, you know, speaking of gaps and like valleys
Starting point is 00:17:39 in terms of narrative. the narrative between what is like put out by the media and what is actually happening on the ground couldn't be wider and you know I've seen this a lot obviously with like in the past however many months it's been at this point I've lost count just like the way that every accusation is a confession I mean at this point it's all so cliche I'm embarrassed to say it but it's like a math proof at this one point like whatever is being put out there by the hesbarus the opposite is happening um and i think no point uh kind of crystallizes that uh nothing crystallizes that more than the claim of outside agitators which is what we're going to be talking about uh today for a good portion of the show um so i don't know if you guys have heard this if you've seen this or if you've heard about this but uh right now outside agitators are going through New York radicalizing our children
Starting point is 00:18:46 and telling them genocide is bad and there was recently a press conference with your own mayor, Ref Mr. Our nightclub mayor. Yes. Why is you a nightclub mayor?
Starting point is 00:19:04 All he does is hang out at nightclubs at night when these like ridiculous suits I did not know that about Eric Adams. Oh, yeah. We know his food orders are always like, I think it's some sort of fish. And he's a big, he's a big fish at the nightclub guy.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, he's like a fish, like a bony fish. Smelly tuna. I want something smelly as fuck. He's just like, yeah, that's very much next to, like, guy who microwaves fish in the office. Yes, exactly. Guy who orders fish in the, also, like, he's such an old dude in the club.
Starting point is 00:19:39 You know what I mean? Like when I was in New York, you'd like go to a club and it's like, this is tight. Who's the old guy? Yeah, yeah. And why does he keep hollering at me and why does he keep picking his teeth with the fishbone? He does have that aesthetic that he's projecting where he's in the back of the club sitting at a table and people constantly come to him. And he likes that. He likes that energy.
Starting point is 00:20:02 That's why he ran for mayor. He's just like, I've always wanted to be approached in a booth. free bottle service and also I just want to hold court at my local club there's an organizing theory here that if we give him a nightclub job good enough that he would leave the
Starting point is 00:20:19 I love that we're going at it at every angle you got to try everything you can but he said this recently regarding the protests that were happening specifically at Columbia but also just all over all over the city
Starting point is 00:20:36 And I have a clip for y'all right here. Movement to radicalize young people. And I'm not going to wait until it's done and all of a sudden acknowledge the existence of it. After speaking with them throughout the week at their request and their acknowledgement that outside agitators were on their grounds, training and really co-opped in this movement. At their request, we went in and conducted an operation to allow Columbia University to remove those who have turned the peaceful protest into a place where anti-Semitism and anti-Israeli attitudes were pervasive. Attitudes, always the most dangerous. The most dangerous. Well, it starts with the attitudes. It does.
Starting point is 00:21:31 At first they came for my attitude. And I said nothing because I was a. rude boy. Is he describing the cops because that's literally people who invaded them? We're arresting people based on their like resting anti-Semite face. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:48 They're resting anti-Semite skin tone. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, so you know, you see that and there's been all over the place you've been seeing this talk that outside agitators and you know, this is an old tactic at this point.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It's funny because normally when They say outside agitators, they mean Jews, but now they're representing Jews so they can't say it. So it has to be this, like, ambiguous outside agitator thing. I mean, listen, you know, say what you will about, you know, the current state of anti-Semitism discourse. At least we're not being called the outside agitators. Oh, wait. Finally. We are.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Because one of the things that they like to point out in terms of the outside agitation forces in college campuses is they specifically like to point out Jewish Palestine solidarity groups, like if not now, or Jewish Voice for Peace. In fact, there was an article in Politico that came out recently, maybe two days ago, pointing out the
Starting point is 00:22:50 nefarious funders of these pro-Palestine solidarity groups, Jewish groups, and it said, pro-Palestine protesters are backed by a surprising source, Biden's biggest donors. Some
Starting point is 00:23:06 of the most outspoken groups against Biden and Israel get funding from foundations attached to some of the biggest names in democratic circles. Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you. This makes me so fucking man. It's a very particular type of Hezbarra in terms of like that spin is kind of, uh, it works on two fronts.
Starting point is 00:23:27 It's almost like, uh, it's like, uh, you know, two for the price of one. Because one, uh, for anyone who's on the right who loves the paid protesters meme, They love the idea that there's no such thing as a protest that can happen organically. It must be astroturfed by Soros. It gives you that. In fact, it names both George Soros and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation as being part of the nefarious funders. And the other thing it does is it says to those protesters and to anyone out there who at this point is just like, what is Biden doing? I don't know if I'm going to vote this year, you know, because they're just like,
Starting point is 00:24:06 I just can't bring myself to vote for such a genocidal maniac. It's, it also is like, well, actually, Biden does support you. In fact, he's funding you. Like, it's so, it's two for the price of one in terms of, you know, there, there has barra goals. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They'll say every argument that is conflicting. There's like this term we use called Schrodinger's protester, where on one side we're being told that we're unemployed losers with nothing to do. And on the other side, we're these
Starting point is 00:24:40 paid protesters. Yes. Professionals. Yeah. Yes. Well, also like the idea that you're, that protesters are lazy. I mean, this is the Jonathan Goldblatt, right? Was that his name? Green Black? Yeah. Oh, Greenblatt. Yeah. Greenblatt. Yeah. Greenblatt. Yeah. Who's just like, you know, the uncommitted voter. Blatt's come in many colors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you know, that they're just like that they're so, they're so lazy. That's why they're coordinated in a no, like no confidence vote and getting out the vote to send a specific message to Joe Biden. Like, no, you can't have it both ways.
Starting point is 00:25:17 To me, this article is, is, it's not about look, Biden supports you. It is a way to strip funding from these organizations. This is a hundred percent. An absolute campaign to say, look, George Soros and look, Bill and Melinda Gates, you better stay in line. Don't fund Jewish peace groups. Yeah. Because you look like you're anti-Semitic right now.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And it's so insidious. And we've seen this done time and time again. But we, you know, who knows? I mean, I don't think the Soros Foundation or Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are like down enough. Maybe Soros, meaning like. Soros is the closest. But, you know, it's interesting. I need to point out there's a kicker at the end of this.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Oh, there's a lot of, yeah. a huge kicker. And the huge kicker is the fact that they, Politico today issued a minor retraction regarding this. They said, correction. An earlier version of this report misstated that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation cedes the Tides Foundation's work. It no longer has active grants to Tides. It also said political, uh, it also said Politico contacted Gates. No, it didn't. Politico contacted an agency that has represented the Gates Foundation, but did not reach out
Starting point is 00:26:37 directly to Gates. And it said, if not now, was one of the two main organizations behind the protests, if not now is supporting protests, but the students are leading them. So... No one's going to read this correction. I mean, this is the thing. It's like, it doesn't fucking matter. It's all the way to prevent
Starting point is 00:26:53 any funds from going to anyone who would dare say Palestinian human rights. How do you not just write an opposite article like yeah you can't or take it down i mean the same thing with the screams without words or whatever if only we had an organization against defamation maybe a league yeah right could correct someone's someone's got to invent that someone's got to figure out a way to you know a league or something yeah of people who are just trying to stop defamation from happening against jewish student groups it's about time yeah it's about time but yeah it's just crazy because it's like you
Starting point is 00:27:29 you see, you know, again, this math-proof accusations and confessions. The thing is, they could take every single dollar out of if not MNJVP, and that will not affect the campus protesters. At all. Those are all students. Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And because also these groups are not well funded. I'm sorry. But I've been to events put on by both, and they ain't got the money. No, they're nice people. They do fucking fantastic work. but come on guys please you know get a fucking get a better sound system or something and that's actually by design like no matter how good the billionaire is there's still billionaires and
Starting point is 00:28:11 being independent from money is always better and even if we struggle like we do it if not now we people donate spaces when we do trainings yeah i'm like a volunteer for filming and like things like There's, you know, it's, it's, yeah, it's very grassroots. There are people who fund, like, programmatic things that, that we do. But isn't that, I mean, that's what's so fucked about it, is that the right can completely astro-turf an entire movement, like the Koch Brothers AstroTurf, the Tea Party. You know, you could have literal, the Republican Party paying for buses to go to the Capitol on January 6th, you know, Charlie Kirk included, whatever, all these, all these, all
Starting point is 00:28:55 right wing organizations and that's all fine and dandy but again yes they're the like and again with the like we don't have to get into the BLM stuff but this like the the vow of poverty that leftist organizations are supposed to take and like the rejection of money they're supposed to to offer up I think is such bullshit and bad faith and we understand this is not the 60s and 70s we don't have the social safety net that we once did where people could like you know go on and off of welfare or like you're like you know, unemployment and then support like literal movements. No, no, no, we're in a much different era and people have to fucking eat. And so I remember like when I, I mean, I didn't get any money for when I worked at Leftorne
Starting point is 00:29:34 magazine, but we sold t-shirts that were like anti-capitalista. And at like, you know, one of the dirty, crusty conferences we were at. Someone was like, oh, you're selling a shirt this is anti-capitalists. Like, fuck you, dog. Like, this is why we can't have anything nice. Like, nothing's a bigger self-own than that because that is a complete, that's a complete lack of understanding of what capitalism is versus that's just trait
Starting point is 00:29:57 I'm sorry, that's commerce. Sorry we're not post money right now. It's related to how is like your Hasbara intro. Like you can't criticize. Oh, are you going to criticize Israel on your cell phone? Yeah, right. Yeah. Oh, you're going to sit here and tell me Israel is an
Starting point is 00:30:12 apartheid state while you have a heart stent inside your body. Exactly. What's that meme? Like, we should improve society somewhat. Yes. Yet you participate in society. Here he is. I'm very intelligent. It's true. And speaking of
Starting point is 00:30:30 participating in society and, you know, being bad. Drake? Are we on to Drake? I mean, where he participates apparently is too young. No, you know, right now we got to participate in some capitalism
Starting point is 00:30:46 by taking a quick commercial break. Yes. So, stick around, listen to these ads for, I don't know, Fertilizer and Border Patrol and McDonald's. Remember. Sorry to spread it to you, but I was listening and it was McDonald's. I'm okay with that. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Listen, BDS McDonald's fine, but if they want to give me money to tell you to eat a burger you're not going to eat, I'm happy. But stick around. We'll be right back. And we're back. We are talking about outside agitators. And, you know, I think. the biggest outside agitator that anyone who has actually been on any of these encampments
Starting point is 00:31:29 or protests is clearly coming from the Zionist point of view. And you see that in terms of like the amount of press that any single either, you know, Zionist or Israeli student can get or just outside Israeli group can get just by manufacturing some violent thing that didn't happen to them. So I have a few examples of that. One of them is a poor student who was at Columbia who was blinded in a brutal, brutal flag attack. I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but it's, I mean, it's just one of those tragic things that happens, you know, when anti-Semitism rears its ugly head.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And so here is that student on Fox News telling their harrowing tale. Protests turning violent, injuring our next guest. She wrote a column on this saying, quote, I was stabbed in the eye at Yale. And on Barry Weiss's newspaper. Yeah, beautiful. I mean, there's no connection there in terms of ideology. No. That's just a, I also love.
Starting point is 00:32:45 So it's literally a false flag. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's so true. I also love the not bearing the lead in terms of, what are you going to name this article? I was stabbed in the eye. Well, when they conspired, they were like, how do we do a false flag operation? They're like, what about a flag?
Starting point is 00:33:12 What about an actual flag? falsely hitting my eye oh that is so great and they continue here we go waved a Palestinian flag in my face and then jagged me in my left eye
Starting point is 00:33:26 they tore down the American flag from the flagpole and it took days for them to face minimal repercussions today there were some arrests and then many of the students who were arrested were then released to return to a protest
Starting point is 00:33:39 yeah lock him away forever you know what I always say at the free press Sometimes you've got to do life in prison for people burn flag. I've always said that at someone who is classic liberal. These fools believe in nothing. Also, she's like way too young to do that like old man Yiddish cadence that she's doing. She's like obviously trying to impress her dad or someone.
Starting point is 00:34:03 And then they let them go. Yeah. Oh, they're great. Now they're going to go around. Yeah, this is very much. Yeah, the right wigger that never learned how to think for themselves. She is like Well, she's getting too much press
Starting point is 00:34:16 But I otherwise would be like She's like two years away from becoming an anti-Zionist Oh no She's getting too much Accolades for all this Listen, I would love to believe that that was the case But sometimes people Stay bad
Starting point is 00:34:32 They stay bad Just to show the video Because I think it's important to see This brutal brutal attack You know at this point I'm sure people have already seen all this but let's show it in case This is only for premium users
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yes, that's right You can zoom real close to see the stab Oh this is this is brutal If you have young children Around please get them out of the room So in this video you see The student is holding her camera up At some people who are wearing masks
Starting point is 00:35:07 And some who are not And there's chanting going on. Disclosed, divest, which are anti-Semitic code words for, you know, Jews run the banks or something. And so she's standing there. And then this happens. Someone walks by with a Palestinian flag. And what? Oh my god, I've never seen this video
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's so great Let's roll that back again Let's see this brutal attack Oh my god That's like one of those like flags on a straw Like even if you did It's about to fall Well to be fair
Starting point is 00:36:04 She is related to that turtle Who had that straw up its nose you know the one who famously made it so we all have to have paper straws and I'm tired of the paper straws this look as a younger sister I recognize this move so hard as a professional soccer player Ellie Ellie you hurt me oh mom like like why the fact that she's not saying mom
Starting point is 00:36:30 I know that's breath like so true I you know as someone who has an older brother I played this a lot I was very much you know, the I was very much he cries in pain as he strikes you this is something
Starting point is 00:36:47 that a Nazi once said to me like online is like yeah the Jew cries in pain as he strikes you and I was just like first of all that's fucked up
Starting point is 00:36:56 second of all I did do that a lot to my older brother because I would like hit him and then I mean oh wow anyways
Starting point is 00:37:06 the point is that is what she is calling being assaulted, stabbed in the eye, has had many, many appearances on Pierce Morgan, I saw her, on Fox News, she's had all these op-eds about it.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Have they played the video or not? No, of course not. No, of course not. They never played a video. No, because then they'd be like, so when you say stabbed, do you mean I had a flag flutter near you?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, yeah. But it's crazy because, guys, this is not the first literal false flag. Earlier in this conflict, in this war, we'll call it, fair, fair war, there was another person who pulled a very similar thing. And it's just like, you got to see it to believe it, because you're just, this is, this shit is great. Here's another person doing this. Hey, don't hit me with your flag.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Hit me with that flag again and see what happened. Oh, my God, let's play it. Dude, don't hear. No, no, no. If you are listening, you have to know this is a man who... You see him? ...butts a flag. He just nods himself into the flag.
Starting point is 00:38:26 To the flappiest part. Again, go near the pole, you fucking pussies. Like, if you're going to pretend that you were injured, you got to at least injure yourself. It's like a kamikaze pilot who just... just lands and goes, oh, you can't, you can't land. How long can they keep up this thing where they simultaneously be like, are like, we're the tough Jews, we're not the sheep who go into the slaughter. And then at the same time, like, ah, I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Like, it's like, how long can these two things coexist before something just explodes? You would think that the effect of the constant, like, verifiable line. would slow people in like corporate news media from like giving a platform to these like obvious agitators but they don't and this woman is no different she is an agitator this is what she does I was trying to remember how I knew this name because I was like I've heard this name before
Starting point is 00:39:29 it could be anyone maybe I know someone from my past whatever no this very student who is faking being stabbed in the eye was part of the infamous in leftist Jewish spaces incident of the Israeli salad discourse that happened at Yale earlier. This was, I think, in November of last year, where basically there was a day of talking about how they had renamed the Israeli salad something else, like Mediterranean salad. And like here I have the This is the tweet
Starting point is 00:40:09 It says first it's quote tweeted from Sahar Who is the stabbed in the eye lady at Yale The years old popular Israeli cusscus salad with spinach and tomatoes Has been renamed in our dining halls as the exact same dish But without the word Israel Which is incredible because this was for me This was after October 7th. Yes, after October 7th.
Starting point is 00:40:36 This was like, well when everyone was like, oh, the civilian casualties are on pace to reach like 30,000. Like the atrocities were already running. No, people already knew what was happening. And people already were, you know, limited amounts of people. But still, people early on were like, we all see where this is going. They're speaking genocidly. And this is a nation that does not care about the lives of Palestine. Indians. And then, you know, we would see in the news all this, these horrible atrocities
Starting point is 00:41:08 day after day. But at Yale, they had renamed the salad. And it's just like, it's, it's, which they didn't. Which then she was fat, something was like, they did that to me too. Like, they do that, like, the whole thing, Mizrahi Jews were all, like, I'm from Uzbekistan. So, Uzbek Jew. There's like Iranian Jews, Egyptian, Jews, Arab Jews. And they just renamed all of us to basically Mediterranean Jews. I love it. You know, actually. Literally, Mizrahi literally means Oriental. Yeah. We were going to just call you brown, so consider yourself lucky.
Starting point is 00:41:42 That's really funny. Yeah. I mean, and it's crazy because it's like, you know, the... Is that actually a thing to call someone a Mediterranean Jew? I mean, this is like the equivalent, yeah, is Mizrahi. Mizrahi is the Middle Eastern. Sort of, okay, okay, yeah, yeah. It's the way of stripping any kind of like...
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah, it's Eastern. Yeah. Right. Eastern, exactly. It's a way of like stripping out the complexities of, you know, Jewish origin and the way that like Jews have lived in different states in the Middle East. Because we live, or Buharyan Jews like me lived in almost entirely in peace with a Sunni Muslim majority at Uzbekistan and Tajikistan for thousands of years. And they don't, you don't really want that story out there. You're right. Yeah. Because the story of the story of the. the, quote, Mizrahi Jews has to be, you know, parallel with the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:42:40 It has to be in parallel with, you know, Christian European anti-Semitism, if not worse, because that otherwise, you know, you can't raise an entire country of people to hate another people if you don't tell them. Well, they hated you first. The outside agitators thing is just wild to me because it was happening. I mean forget the fact that like it's been a week since that you know false flag literal false flag and since then we've seen just an absolute brutal crackdown on students including the removal of hijab of Muslim students by police officers as RAF mentioned we're now getting reports of just how long the Columbia students were were held without food, water like 16 hours and whatnot and and like and the like the The day, well, the thing is, like, all the kids at Columbia were like, oh, there's outside agitators. They literally found none. Eric Adams has not produced a single outside agitator.
Starting point is 00:43:43 The next day, or that very night, UCLA is attacked by pro-Israel Zionist mobs throwing firecrackers at them. Firework, not students. They were not down-steaders. Yes. And then we're just supposed to. With an Israeli intelligence officer with them. Yes. That's right. Yes. And we are supposed to, bragging about it, bragging their former special ops or whatever for the Israeli military.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And we're just supposed to continue believing their definition of outside agitators, which just applies to pro-Palestinian protesters. In New York, in the smaller stories when they came out, the NYPD actually first seated a story saying that there was a wife or some kind of spouse of a terrorist at Columbia. And the first question everyone asked was like, well, why don't you then just go get, like, first of all, if they're the wife, whatever. Yeah, right. Why don't you just go and get them? Right. Oh, wait, are they, is there, wait, is there like a warrant for their arrest or something? Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And then the story became, we have evidence that there's outsiders. And the evidence they produced was a big bicycle lock. And I'm not even joking because they used the bicycle locks to lock the doors from getting a tax. And not just from police, getting attacked by those mobs that would attack UCLA. So if you're in camping and sleeping somewhere, you want protection. So there's like a night watch and there's chains. And they said these chains are foreign. These are basically are foreign to Columbia University.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And these are evidence that there was out there are Hamas chains. Yeah. And then you have the clip? I have the clip. I mean, this is just great. This is when we will answer Hamer. This is not what students bring to school. Okay?
Starting point is 00:45:37 The type of questions bring to campuses and universities. These are... Yeah, this is what a tough guy brings in Michael Jackson's bad music video. Those are the chains. There's a chain like that from the same brand called, from Kryptonite called Forget About It because that's what you need in New York so your bike doesn't get stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's so funny. Yes. And the city that probably per capita has the most bike thefts in the world. They're just like, no student would ever bring something. this secure. Yeah, it's so happy. I've had that lot. Every fucking student who drives a bike.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yeah, it is more. Heavy industrio chains that were locked with bike locks. And this is what we encounter. Are you sure that they were locked with bike locks or that the whole thing is in a bike lock? And also. The idea that they would be like, listen, I'm okay if you want to like close off a building with like a, I don't know, like a really meek zip tie or maybe some string. But if you bring something like this, it's.
Starting point is 00:46:33 says that you really, really don't want us in there. And I don't like that. Yeah, you must have like a really valid reason for taking this extreme of an action. What could it be? This is supposed to be political theater. And you guys brought a really, really good chain. In fact, it's a foreign chain. In fact, the update is Columbia University sells those locks to its students, like on their official store.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Really? Yes. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. But don't know how we got to the bike lock part, but they kept changing their story. Yeah. And then they actually changed it even more and said, like, the kids are being indoctrinated from outside.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And that's why they're just constantly changing the goalposts. But, but like, I mean, that, again, this entire thing is just like I have the deep sinking feeling, which is, this is liberals handing the far right, the keys to undo. whatever is left of you know our intellectual institutions freedom real freedom of speech real places of safe learning yes and they are i mean that you got fucking morning joe uh just like here you go have at it elise stephanic um because this is completely bad faith and with the outside agitators i mean Zionists uh Zionists have been calling Zionists spies which by the are now being considered at a federal level to get money to do that on these fucking schools.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Zionist spies have already been calling professors the infiltrators, the books they read the propaganda. And this is all... And their own students. Oh, did you think the war on woke and the banning books? Was that ridiculous to you? No, no, no, because now liberal Zionists are like, you know what? Actually, I agree with that. We should ban certain books. We should ban certain professors from teaching certain realities. There is this great passage when Trump got a elected by this journalist Jamel Bowie. And he, he, like, took up Hannah Arendt's, like, writing about fascist propaganda. And I'm not going to read her version of it because it's just, like, very, but he broke it
Starting point is 00:48:45 down in a very plain way, which is brilliant. And he wrote, fascists didn't lie to obscure the truth. They lied to signal what they would eventually make the truth. Or, to use Arendt's analogy, it is as though one were to debate with a potential murderer. as to whether his future victim were dead or alive, completely forgetting that man can kill and that the murderer, by killing the person in question, could promptly provide proof of the correctness of that statement.
Starting point is 00:49:15 So, you know, basically fascist propaganda, it's not a lie. It's like their public plan. Here's the new truth. Here's the new truth. Yes, exactly. And in fact, if you really examine the way Adam speaks about every issue, He's speaking always to elder parents that vote for him like elders and all of this is because like if you look at the polls of the campuses, even among the Jewish students, a certain percentage of them are going to say they're uncomfortable in school right now and let's say it's like 30, 20% of different polls. But then when you poll, their same very parents, 80% of them are.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So like if you tell the parents now, some of your kids don't even know they're in danger. They're being trained. That's when you're going to get people to pull out students and, you know, ask for tuition back. And really, the long game always has been to get rid of our higher education. Yep. Yes. And this has been, you know, one of the prime targets of, you know, APEC and Israel lobby. Yeah, like Project Canary.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I didn't talk about like a. Canary mission. Canary mission. I mean, when I say Zionist spies. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, Canary Mission is one, we need to do an entire episode on because it is almost entirely focused on trying to defame students and to defame, you know, anyone who speaks out on, you know, in support of Palestinians. And we didn't really have this back in 2003 to, like, harken back. Like, we had the beginnings of a, you know, divestment movement at NYU, but we definitely weren't docks to this degree. And it just shows just how strong. the movement is, even though it feels like we are on, or the students are on the back foot.
Starting point is 00:51:03 This is all desperation. And again, like, Hakeem Jeffries wants there to be some new bill, which basically gives federal funds, again, to the likes of Canary Mission because they're not going to start like anti-Semitic investigators, squads from the ground up. They're just going to give money to the people who are literally already doing it. Yeah. So the idea, like the actually, when you go on. at all the security will check canary mission with your name and uh in fact the solution i think like
Starting point is 00:51:34 so it's easy for me to say because when i got on it i have i have all these platforms on social media i could just defend myself but for a lot of people canary mission and stop antisemitism org are like the which does the same thing right like the first result or the only result under google to their name exactly it's like completely devastating that's wild but then no one really reads like if you click it they're like anti-semitic anti-semitic and then what they do it very cleverly they do is they position you near actual so they'll put like david duke up one week right and then put you next to it but then if you read your article all you did was tweet about like Benjamin not Netanyahu's an asshole right I hate Benjamin Netanyahu and they're like oh the first
Starting point is 00:52:14 the one Jewish president in the world yeah yeah oh my like basically like those kind of things like for me they started because I didn't so yeah I did a I was in a if not now. In 2014, Gaza attack, I was at an if not now thing where we read the names of the dead. And we did a mourners cottage in Hebrew for everyone, including soldiers of IDF, including militants from Palestinian militants, everyone. And they basically called me anti-Semitic for using Jewish tradition to honor terrorists. Because you were doing it Jewishly. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:52 First of all, if you want to talk about using Jewish tradition to honor terrorists, isn't that the entire premise of the state of Israel? So for me to say this is easy. So that's all a set up to really the solution to Canary Mission is Canary Mission because what's going to happen when they fund it is they're going to accuse everyone and it's not going to mean anything anymore. Like right now, I'm on a list with Trevor Noah. And I was just like on antismatismatom.com and I'm just like, okay, I guess like this is kind of good. I mean, sick. Yeah, that sounds like a pretty sick list to be on. Yeah, and that's like the crazy thing about it is, and the dangerous thing about it is, you know, that the way that this ends up is people do not believe anti-Semitism is a real thing. Yeah. Which is not a good thing for people to think because there is anti-Semitism. It definitely exists. And, you know, if you're Jewish, you've probably experienced it legitimately versus experience discomfort with the fact that all of your ideas about is. were fake. My question to these people are, what is worse? Someone who is the anti-Semite, like
Starting point is 00:53:58 the Nazis marching on the streets everywhere right now that no one's reporting on. Someone's like arming themselves and marching and want to kill, kill the Jews. And who's worse? The person trying to kill us as Jews or the person telling me not to look there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. While someone comes at me. Like that person, that Jonathan Greenbud is actually and Morning Joe had Jonathan Greenblatt on and Jonathan Greenblatt without any challenge or retort or anything, not even an eye roll. Jonathan Greenblatt said on his show that the Columbia students are basically, he said, the proxies of Iran are Hezbollah and Lebanon and also the campus students are proxies of Iran. Guess what I have that the presidents and the campus administrators
Starting point is 00:54:46 across the country started again simply saying you got to play by the rules i mean talk about the height of entitlement right thinking that you can just act with impunity wherever you want you know it's funny we're talking about iran a few minutes ago iran has their military proxies like hezbollah and iran has their campus proxies like these groups like s jp and jvp that i mean look at them i mean this is literally like a demonstration in tehran and you can't believe it's happening in Morningside Heights. So, as you know, President Shafeeq testified for Congress.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I mean, you know, like, the the fucking absolute disgrace of a human being this guy is, Jonathan Greenblatt, to like, and listen, the ADL
Starting point is 00:55:36 for a while has been essentially a proxy for the, you know, Israel lobby. I mean, they've been lobbyist, for Israel. That's what they've been doing for a long time. There's a whole history on a drop the ADL.com. There's a whole history of how they've been going after all of our movements, Black Lives Matter, even anti-war back in the day. They were actually never good. That's interesting. There's a big myth that they were and they lost their way. But they were
Starting point is 00:56:05 always like pro-surveillance, pro-infiltration, always had relationships with the FBI and like Black Panthers. What is the name of that website? again, drop the ADL.com, I think. I think it's dot com. I love it. I mean, yeah, that's very interesting. Drop theADL.org. Drop the ADL.org. You know, because it's, you know, for me, it's something that I've always wanted to do a little bit of research into because of the fact that, much like you grow up with a narrative about Israel, you also grow up with a narrative about the ADL, specifically being this, you know, this organization that exists to protect Jews, period, right? And, you know, so for me, just having that belief and then watching this dissent,
Starting point is 00:56:54 this rapid descent into just being mouthpieces for the Israeli government has been, like, insane, because you just go like, oh, have we, it's... The self-awareness is so, like, even the ADL staff, which actually does, like, we get leaks from the ADL all the time because the ADL staff is actually, like, people who's like believed in the mission and signed up and they're like these analytical like beautiful super nerds that are like going to get down to like the fact they want to be investigators they want to be analysts and right they got into this job it pays really well it's hard to jump out but people are jumping out their most senior staff have been leaving yeah however like one of the
Starting point is 00:57:31 big uh leeks was when uh jonathan greenblatt basically asked his team to investigate what would happen if we started to advocate for laws against bd s like for this free speech of boycott, divest, and sanction. And the return, the report said it would put Jews in danger because people, the regular old, you know, Americans will be like, wow, we had this thing called freedom of speech until the Jews tore it up. Right. And therefore, now I hate Jews.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Right. And basically he then tried to kill the report before they leaked it to us. And if you look it up, like ADL leaked BDS report, like you'll see. Like this would backfire on us. This would spark more. And then what we did was go forward with recommending that BDS become... Right, because the mission is not actually protecting Jews from anti-Semitism or stopping the spread of anti-semitism. The mission is protecting Israel at all costs, which is like an instrumentalize anti-Semitism.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah, yeah. Antisemitism is nothing but a tool for the... continuation of you know American support for Israel and it's just like you know it's just that's so insidious like that's you know it's this is why when people talk about you know
Starting point is 00:58:52 anti-Semitism it like it makes me blow a fucking fuse because I'm just like do you understand that you're working for you're actively supporting the largest anti-Semitic machine in the world right now like holy fuck
Starting point is 00:59:08 the fantasia of anti-Semitism The sorcerers. Yeah, straight up. Also just like the lack of self-awareness. For example, this last weekend was the anniversary of Kent State where the National Guard killed three, four students. Three of them were Jewish. And like just the idea that Jonathan Greenblatt is basically okay with killing all of these Jewish, very overrepresented Jewish campus participants. that that's okay.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And it makes sense when you see how they first dehumanized us, the left Jews. Like Jonathan Greenblatt himself said that we are a mirror image of basically Nazis. So there was this like very intricate steps that are very logical. Like first dehumanize them, then make that they're not Jewish. Then now they can get killed and no one will care, Jews at least that only care about Jewish people will not get. I mean, what's crazy is that, like, obviously, Israel's become even more and more of a pariah state. But I can only imagine being a young American Jew, like, has this endeared me to this country at all?
Starting point is 01:00:25 Like, no, not in the slightest. If there was a wedge and a rift between a generational rift in the Jewish-American community, when it comes to support for Israel, this has only deepened it, extremely. And then, you know, back to the like, to me, the bigger thing about the students is around, again, the dismantling of higher education that the right is wanted to do and the right is, does now have an inn as they make this about DEI, as they make this about so much more than just about Israel. And you see that in the ways that USC, Columbia just canceled their commencements. These people are canceling their, these graduations. Yeah. They are self-cancelling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Rather than, and so that's the other thing. It's like, it's like, again, we're making the country Florida. Yeah. Whereas these same people mocked Ronda Santis for, and mocked, oh, look at the, there's no more books in the library. Yeah. So there's no more way to be accused of being a groomer. The same shit with higher education.
Starting point is 01:01:28 If there is no higher education, well, then you don't have any more campus protests. If you don't have a graduation, well, then you don't risk someone wearing a kaffia. To the graduation. Which is a scary Arab word for a tariff scarf scarf. Matt, I see a floridification, Californication parody song. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah, it's not a bad idea. Smoking meth with crocodiles makes me feel like a going vacation.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Speaking of going on vacation, why? Like, this is like one of the, like, fashion. Like, every time I see these Israelis on the, on the, news they all look like they're going on vacation like they're like flip flops shorts like if you look like you're going on vacation in a country you're saying you're indigenous to you're i know it is yeah it is weird it is weird to always wear a shirt that says israel on it when you live in israel it's like showing up to a band you like with the merch on it's a faux pa when the sun itself is like resisting you from being there like you might just like maybe get the message maybe maybe yeah but yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:02:37 So one of the things we talked about, or one of the things that you see a lot, is kind of this, at least when they talk about the college campus protesters, the idea that they keep covering their faces. And it's almost, you know, they try to point that out as kind of like, see, this is, this is what they're afraid. They're like Charlottesville protesters or like the KKK who never want to show their face. And it's like, it's crazy because it is so. clearly this bad faith attempt to try to compare these kids with Nazis, but also because they know full well why anyone would want to protect their identity. And nothing, I mean, this one, this next Hasbarus says it pretty much out loud. This is a guy named Eli Sivis, who was a, or is a student over at UCLA, who is an agitator, someone who is framing themselves as like, oh, I'm just some Jewish student on campus, and they won't let me through.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And he was on Fox News recently. And I have a clip of him. Oh, this guy, I know this guy. Yes, I have a clip of him talking with some very great reporters. It's a student wearing a star of David necklace is denied entry to the campus. But I'm sorry, can we start, can we start with like a student wearing a star of David necklace is denied? Like, editorially, just such obvious fucking spin. He wasn't denied because he was wearing a star of David.
Starting point is 01:04:19 It's just, oh, God, these scumbags. By masked pro-Palestinian activists. Watch this. I have my ID right here. I'm being blocked off not by the security guy, but by you two. You three. Oh, look, they're making their burger while. I'm going this way.
Starting point is 01:04:34 This is what they do. Everybody look at this. Look at this. So I take the same path to class every single day And when I got there, it was blocked off right? Why did they keep casting like people from like 1990s like I know date rapists like why is that I was like everyone they all look they were like they were in a boy meets world TV yeah yeah students not a security guard but by these students I showed them my ID and And I said, this is the way I entered a class. Please let me in. When they refused, I quickly understood what was happening. Were you tempted just to divide them? I mean, because you're larger than they are.
Starting point is 01:05:14 It looks like they're mostly women. Excuse me? I love that. Were you tempted to just like plow in there? Because you know how they look like weak bitches. The restraint you showed. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And the whole idea, you know, he talks about, you know, he wanted to show them for who they are in this act. and he gave his phone over to his friend as soon as it happened. Then, of course, we see that he has just been doing this over and over and over and over again. This is something that he does in order, because he is a provocateur and agitator. Here's him doing it here. You're from entering, so I'm going to enter right now. You pay tuition, right? I do think this is our campus.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Absolutely. Now, if you excuse me, thank you. Excuse me. Excuse me. Don't try to push him. I'm through to enter. Ladies and gentlemen, they're not letting me enter public lands. What they're doing is illegal.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Let's get a nice look at their faces. You can kiss your jobs goodbye. This is going to go viral on social media. You can kiss your jobs goodbye. Saying out loud exactly the reason why people wear a mask. I mean, this idea that they don't show their face, they're cowards, they are the KKK, blah, blah, blah. When he is saying out loud, oh, yeah, this is going to go viral and you're all going to lose your jobs, which is the threat here. And this is what they are trying to do when we talk about Canary Mission.
Starting point is 01:06:36 We talk about stop antisemitism.org. The whole thing is the economic sanctions they're trying to put upon the future generation to scare these kids into being like, this is going to be on your permanent record. And they're not wrong to be scared of that. Dude, he's so tiger beat, though. Can we talk about like, like he just, did I have a picture of him on my wall? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Uh-oh. Like, also. There is an AI type of hotness to every Israeli that exists. It's like, and it makes sense. It's like AI stands for artificial Israelis. Because, you know, they are, it is an artificial culture. You know what is his job? You don't mean, oh, that's the end of your job. Who, why are you, he was on the East Coast, right?
Starting point is 01:07:18 No, no, no, no. I mean, I don't know. What's the first clip? Well, the first clip he's talking about UCLA. That was at UCLA. Okay, so he's not going coast to coast because initially I was like, oh, is he on in Columbia? No. So he's been here in L.A.
Starting point is 01:07:31 So this guy, Rosa, Nark. or whatever we would call him. He is, like, Yeah, he's like, I can't get a seat on the bus. He's getting all the puns in the comics. He's crushing it. So like this guy, he has about 17 different doorways on campus to his class.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah. And he wants to walk probably the long way through the one part where there's an encampment. And then he's talking about their masks because the masks are there because of surveillance and doxing people have been evicted, fired, suspended. Suspended, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I know in our activism, like at JVP, and people send us like pictures of their guns and pictures of our homes. 100%. Things like that. Like, of course we're going to protect ourselves and you're not going to just walk into our A camp. But yeah, if you just Google any campus right now
Starting point is 01:08:25 and you could see the map, the encampment is like a little portion of it. Yes. No one's blocking every door. but this guy is just like let me in this is the only way but also like what would happen
Starting point is 01:08:37 if they just let him it well what happens is that then he's there to disrupt exactly he's there to film them he's going to get poked in the eye by a flag yeah he's going to get poked in the eye by a flag
Starting point is 01:08:48 and then and then where we'll be or I think you've caught probably seen some video when someone was screaming anti-Semitic phrases from inside and then later being shown to be the opposition being Zionists inside the camp
Starting point is 01:09:03 and then waving an Israeli flag. They said death to Jews. Right. And Daily Beast had a great headline about this that, again, sums up everything. Pro-Israel agitator shouts, kill the Jews, gets everyone else arrested. Northwestern.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Northeastern. Yes. And yeah, the story, you know, goes on to talk about Northeast University had around 100, 100 peaceful protesters arrested on Saturday at its,
Starting point is 01:09:31 Boston campus pro-Palestine encampment claiming that there had been reports of protesters using anti-Semitic slurs, but according to witnesses, the protester who spewed his hate speech was a pro-Israel counter-protester. This is, this is what they do, and this is part of... Isn't this how Israel was formed? Yeah, exactly. Like, isn't this how Israel was formed was just like, like Zionist? Yeah, they would go into a village in Palestine. Kill the Jew! I was poked with a kebab.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Fuck a Jewish. Oh, what? Do you hear that? Someone said, let's kill those Jews. Yeah, all right. Well, actually, they did because in Iran, so when Israel, I think you read, yeah, in Iran and Egypt and in all sort of all over the Middle East.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yes. They sent Israeli spies to pretend to be Arabs to kill Mizrahi Jews. That's right. So that we leave because we actually love to where we are. Abby Shlame writes about this extensively in terms of the way in which Arab Jews, Persian Jews, Jews throughout the Mina were coaxed
Starting point is 01:10:42 into leaving the Middle East to go to Israel. Not to say that there wasn't of course also acts in various countries of, you know, anti-Semitism that existed as a reaction to Israel to the creation of the state of Israel, but still not good. But it's like, it's Yeah, I learned about all this in my little Gaza, as Tom Cotton would call it, my university, like my fucking school.
Starting point is 01:11:08 This is a place where you learn these things. And this is, you know, for me, you know, I look at this as like coming to fruition of a long plan that has been in place for years in pro-Israel circles and Zionist circles of trying to stop this discourse from happening in universities. This is one of the last places in which people can openly talk. about Palestinians at human rights. They know that's where people get woke on it, that they know. Yes. And they, this is a great, the campus story is a great example of how this is even bigger than the Jews where there's this long effort to introduce things like, you know, like any
Starting point is 01:11:49 kind of, so our superpower as the left is only our numbers. We're like 51%. When Trump was like, you know, got his thing, we were literally people of color and voting and progressive of every color, we're 51% in terms of voters. So our superpower is our majority. So all they have to do is make us break apart from each other. And they're using every wedge issue
Starting point is 01:12:16 from gendered bathroom, CRT, DEI, like everything, you know, story time, drag story hour, like all those things. And it is like a reminder that anti-Semitism, is a tool of white supremacy. That's right. And almost in every case, there are Jews who are opting in
Starting point is 01:12:37 with the white supremacists for their temporary gain at the cost of basically total annihilation for Jews at some point. But maybe they're thinking, like, you know what, we're going to ride with the devil now, then we're going to outsmart him at the end.
Starting point is 01:12:50 You know, like, you know, maybe that's their course of, you know, I just can't imagine what issue that I hold near and dear. Like, if, you know, I believe in abortion rights, but if all of a sudden, like, Alan Dershowitz started telling me, like, my body, my choice, and we need to protect every life, or sorry, we need to protect, like, you know, make sure that abortion rights are protected, I'd be like, hmm, I don't know. I might be a little pro. Like, like, like, every ghoul, every ghoul from Lauren Bolberg to, again, Dershowitz, to just any far. right wing, like fucking Ben Shapiro, like all of these ghouls come out. You take a step back and go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Let me read one more time. Like, are we the baddies here? And like at some point you have to be like, no, yes, we are. Like, Israel is the baddie. Yes, 100%. And there's like the thing about it, just like real quick, the thing about the, the tool of anti-semitism in white supremacy is that there are all these extraordinary people who are not white around the world doing extraordinary.
Starting point is 01:13:58 things, changing culture, inventing things, and all of those things. And what they need, so that, like, is a check on this idea of white supremacy. Like, how can whites be supreme, Christian whites, be supreme, and everyone else is not if they're doing these amazing things. So that's where Jews come into play, where you could say this, like, magical kind of, like, not human, not the devil kind of being. Yeah, this, like, Elvin, a money changer or whatever. he is what's responsible for
Starting point is 01:14:27 artificially giving access and things to people of color or artificially making them Americans artificially getting them into college it's at the core of every white supremacist ideology at least you know an American in the West because without the Jew then everything you see before your eyes
Starting point is 01:14:46 of black excellence of people doing things it will renounce is like disproves white supremacy So that's why we're so needed to be that middleman. Yes, 100%. And I think, you know, something that you touched on that I think is really interesting is like anti-Semitism being used as a tool for white supremacy. And that actually also includes doing anti-Semitism to yourself in order to bolster white supremacy. Because let's not, you know, let's not for a second kid ourselves. the act of being able to get a hundred other people arrested by being the person who screams, you know, kill the Jews at the protest, at the protest, like, that is using police power.
Starting point is 01:15:37 That is using a white privilege. That is, that's access to that kind of state power is part of being under this tent of white. That's why what's so wild is that we are supposed to and the media is supposed to is telling us that actually. that student, even though they yelled that, that student did it because they felt in danger it felt. It felt. It felt scared. Yes. And they didn't know
Starting point is 01:16:01 what I'm like. Sometimes feelings are facts apparently. Right wing white Jews are like the Karen Megatron. Yes. Yes. And I think there's if we're talking Karen's I know a lot of them. Well, yeah, we've we've been dealing
Starting point is 01:16:17 with a lot of them. This has been a wild And I don't, it's wild, though, because you're like, at the end of the day, I don't know how to tell you, you're not special. Like, I know, I know, that's all I want to say is like, guess what? You're not fucking special. Yeah. And no one's coming for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah. No one gives a shit. No one gives a shit about you. Sorry. No one, I'm sorry, but no one knows you're Jewish. Number one, nobody knows you Jewish. There's a few people in our lives that I'm like, I don't want to make this about appearance. But as someone who actually looks kind of Jewish, it's very annoying that.
Starting point is 01:16:51 these blunt-haired blue-eyed bitches are out here being like, I'm scared. I'm sorry. They're literally like, I would stop because I'm Jewish. Yeah, I do. It's like literally you look like you look like the little girl who was screaming goodbye Jews
Starting point is 01:17:07 at the train in Auschwitz in fucking Schindler's list. You look like the Polish girls who was like slit in the throat. Like, you're going to sit here, you're going to tell me you're scared of what, being cast? as a Nazi
Starting point is 01:17:21 Stephen Spielberg anyways but there's been a lot of Karenhood one of the things that happened you know this tactic of you know weaponized Karenism
Starting point is 01:17:36 has been used on college campuses and I have a great clip of someone who I'm calling dog Karen she is going to hurt them nobody is going to attack them She is currently standing in the middle of the encampment. Someone, this is not someone who is like, you know, this is someone who went into the encampment with their dog to call the police.
Starting point is 01:18:02 In like Lulu Lemon. Wait, hold on one second. What? We got to get our baby soon. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to get the baby soon. But first, I have to play this dog Karen wearing Lulu Lemon.
Starting point is 01:18:14 This person is not in harm's way. They are free to leave. Nobody is going to hurt them. I'm really scared. I'm really scared. It's not in time's way. Yes, they're right in front of me right now. The crazy thing about this video is there's all this open space in which...
Starting point is 01:18:29 I know, I love, that's my favorite part. And the dog's like, chill, you know? Yeah, the dog is honestly, I'm sorry, you cannot walk with the dog and be like, I feel like I'm in danger. And look, if the dog is chill, you're not in danger. Unless you got a fucking, like a crap dog. Get a better dog. So she's just rolled up to a bunch of protesters. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:49 you're listening and they're just like you're not in danger this woman's not in danger again there's wide open space for this person to leave she's clearly going there instigating the trouble i mean it is it and again it it is no coincidence this is not the first dog karen no dog karen's exist well no the dog the famous dog karen who called the cops on the black bird watcher yes right and who everyone had no problem calling what racism this woman looking for trouble this woman you weaponizing his race against him to the fucking cops and then this plays out and liberal Zionists are like oh well I don't know she might have felt a little tingle of unsafe yeah no she didn't you know so it's just like again and the fact that this recast a lot of where people stood in BLM and a lot of the way I think some Zionists think
Starting point is 01:19:37 that social justice is purely transactional um and it is purely and nothing has come clear than actually hearing people say well we stood with you during BLM black person you should stand with us and it's like fuck you yeah sorry I'm by the way also I've been shaking my head this entire pod yeah I know we're gonna like really strong whatever muscle yeah just shaking yeah it is it is you know it's it's disheartening and infuriating and you know not good for the Jews I'll say that I mean the good news it's like the bottom of the barrel yeah like it's very transparent it's like if I were to send someone to do these things to discredit Zionists.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Like, this is exactly all the people I would send. Except I would make them, like, don't do the genocide. But yeah, do that, do that thing. And you're just going to discredit this whole thing. Like, they're doing what I would wish they would do to discredit themselves. I know. It is nice because we are at this era, you know, this particular moment in which the Hezbara has become bad.
Starting point is 01:20:44 And the tactics have become obvious. and it's not working. And you see that in our final video that I want to play in the way that people are, you know, there's been more and more people who are waking up to this idea
Starting point is 01:21:04 that like Israel is this bad actor and that they as an ally of the United States is a fucking ridiculous thing if you are in any way someone who believes the United States should be uh in partnership with good places and um just want to play kind of like the hero of the week um this is just this is just uh there's just a cool guy uh i don't know how they started this conversation but it's a guy who's driving in his car and some people are asking him some
Starting point is 01:21:33 questions as he's driving uh and i just going to play it because i love him so much Got no shame Free Kaiser That 48 Since 1948 That occupation Bullshit Israel
Starting point is 01:21:45 Israel your fucking secret It's out Bitches You got your number God watch you Yes sir I love you He pulls away in his Hyundai
Starting point is 01:21:59 He pulls away in his Hyundai I love this guy That's so hard I don't know Doesn't he know Like 2% of that carburetor Was made in Israel Like, how dare you?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah, wow. You know, here's the thing. That's, you can't go around, you know, criticizing Israel when you are someone who enjoys computer chips. Okay? Because every computer chip made in Israel, every Hyundai manufacturer. That guy is incredible. Isn't that a great guy? But it's also just like, this is a random black guy, right?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah. He is in his car. I assume he's random because I don't know how, but again, what? Oh, it's probably an agitator. No, what I mean is like, how did Hamas get into the blue Hyundai? No, how did they start that conversation where he's just like, hey, guy, driving a Hyundai? No, he, so the person clearly who's filming has like some kind of free Palestine flag. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Oh, yes, yes. Saw the flag, saw the kaffia, whatever. Was I just wanted to say, hey, I'm in solidarity with you. Exactly, because someone like him has no place potentially to fucking talk about this. And so he sees somebody, I'm assuming with a flag. or whatever. And it's like, let me just get 30 seconds of something that nobody on news media will fucking tell me, which is Israel's the baddie here. Yes. There's also this fun fact that comes also from oppression, but like black Americans are actually overrepresented in being
Starting point is 01:23:21 critical of Zionism. That's right. And against the war attack on Gaza. And that's of course because they've seen all these lies and all the gaslighting and people claiming they're hurt or were raped or were touched or this or all those. Right. Or that people who are advocating for in solidarity with them are somehow all soroschills or somehow all paid protesters or somehow are all, you know, acting in bad faith. It's like, it's the same tactics. It's the same tactics. The difference is is that, you know, like we have not seen, I think, this level of outcry and this level of repression. And so, you know, this is the one, you know, silver lining for all this is keep the repression up because at this point I can't I'm only seeing it spiral out of
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