Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 37: We Will Psy-Trance Again, with Brace Belden

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

This week we had TrueAnon's Brace Belden on the pod to tell us about his experience at the Nova Festival Exhibit in New York. Also we talked about the Adas Torah pogrom in Matt Lieb's old neck of the woods.Will you be in Chicago during the Democratic National Convention? So will I! Me and my wife Francesca Fiorentini have a couple of live shows we are doing! On Monday and Tuesday August 19 and 20, Francesca and I will be doing shows at Lincoln Lodge in Chicago. Monday will be a live Bitchuation Room Podcast with me and some other great guests, and Tuesday will be a live stand up show with us and some friends.August 19th Live Podcast Tickets August 20th Live Stand Up TicketsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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I'm excited to be a part of it. And I'm excited that with me as a big part of it, in fact, the reason the thing exists, it's by his good graces that we have this podcast and that I'm here with you, I'd like to welcome my most moral overlord and co-host and dear friend, you know him, you love him. It's Matt Lieb, ladies and gentlemen,

the man I call Lieben Sramm. Can you, indigenous? What's up? How are you doing? You did a great job, man. Was that all right? Yeah, at first I was like, he's a little stiff at the beginning

and then you made it clear you're doing a fucking impression of me. Is that how I come off at the beginning of the very episode? Like, I'm scared. Is that what I'm doing? No, no, no, but you, I mean, there's a cadence to it, but it's a bit, you know, like. Sure. So you, like, not at all.

I'm, I feel insulted. I'm, I'm doing you, doing you. How dare you? Crazy Jews. I'm going to be hitting the soundboard most of this episode. Daniel helped me out this week getting most everything prepared for this episode because I had just an insane week of having, like, way too much shit to do at work. And so he's been, man, you've just been invaluable. So thank you, dog.

Isn't that a weird word, invaluable? I don't know what it means. It should mean it's been valuable. It should mean not valuable. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that's unvalurable. That's unvaliable, yeah. Invaluble is it can't be valued.

It's priceless. Oh, yeah. You can't evaluate it, I think. I think that's what invaluable means. We're going to learn lots of words today on this episode of Bad Hezbarra. We're going to use even more. yeah well no but also Matt like fuck I feel like I haven't been earning my keep pulling my weight like now that I'm pretty much a full-time co-host I feel like like the amount of work that

goes into an episode I got a little taste of that this week and you just come so impeccably prepared it's fucking exhausting it sure is especially given the shit that you have to be sifting through on a podcast like this which is it's not good for you it's like bad for your your health like i'm i'm pretty sure like i've noticed myself getting like sick more often and i'm like is this just because i look at videos of evil men killing children every day and i'm like no it's probably also i don't work out yeah it's like being a taster at a uh some kind of factory that makes sweets that taste horrible yeah it's exactly like that like being you know an umpa lumpa at you know, Wonka Land.

Like you're... A Jumpalupa. Yeah, I'm a Jumpa Lumpa here at the Hezbara factory, just drowning in a river of chocolate. Anyways, I'm so excited to be your most immoral co-host. I'm in most immoral mode. I'm going fucking crazy on the boards today. I want you to come. I want you to come.

Thank you, B.B. B.B. Soundboard. Let's introduce our guests, because we have an exciting one this week. We're so excited to have this guest. is the co-host of one of my favorite podcasts, True and On, and truly one of the funniest and most intelligent human beings that I know, and a man of many pseudonyms, which we won't divulge unless he wants to, but they're all fantastic. It's Brace Beldon. Please welcome Brace Beldon to the Baddance Barth podcast. Hello, fellas. Hello, sir. How you doing?

You know, I, I was looking at you guys do your little thing from backstage here on stream yards. You mean from, you mean from the waiting room? From the waiting room. Wow. You know, it's not going to get much play with me. Do not like Fugazi. It was just sitting right there. You like more of a minor threat guy.

There's no, there's no context. I mean, I agree with you. I agree. Yeah. I don't really understand why people, there we go. That's a great record. Pugazi, it's, uh, I don't know, it's like, this, this record has a song called guilty for being white. And, hey, would not, it, that would not fly in 2024. Let me tell you. You think it shouldn't be a

crime, Daniel? Yeah. Exactly. Right. Um, totally. Yeah. I'm turning myself in. Listen, I, I, I get it. He was, Ian McKays had to apologize for that song for the past 50 years. It's so funny. But he should apologize for making straight edge. Yeah. If you, if you, if you, if you, if you, Zoom out. I know. Straight edge is so, I don't, nobody cares if you don't drink. Yeah. It was never a point in my life where people were like, like, I mean, I, granted I was an

alcoholic, but like. Same. But there was never a point in my life where like, you were like, oh, that kid doesn't drink. Let's kick his ass. Right. That's never happened. It's like maybe in high school one time and that's like the weirdest guy everyone knew. They were just like, that kid won't stop talking about how he doesn't drink.

Let's kick his ass. Right. Exactly. That's what, but that's what he created. they created a entire subculture actually you know i'll allow them that because they what they did is they made they made hardcore okay for people who are on the spectrum and want to collect records and shoes yeah and still like like their parents and stuff yes yeah yeah they still want to be good boy but they want to have fun i do like that at one point that straight edge morphed into two

there was like a straight-edged kind of schism in the 90s where some went like kind of like Salafist style Muslim and then others just went completely Krishna which is always that's been that's been in the kind of the milieu since the 80s

but the like hardcore they went like hardcore Krishna and I don't think any other genre of music has had that kind of divergence yeah I mean is there I guess so I guess there isn't like a is there like a Nazi wave of straight edge? Like, probably not. Yeah, no, there are. Actually,

there is. But I always is. Because there's two kinds of skinheads in the world. Right. Yes. Which, by the way, both scary equally. Like, a not, an anti-racist skinhead is just someone who's like, all right, well, now you're just going to also beat me up for being white. So, I don't think it's

you're still weird. I, because I used to have a lot of skinheads when I was young. Like, they were like not anti-racist skinheads. Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know if they particularly were anti-racist, but they weren't racist. Yeah, they weren't like pro-racist. No, a bunch of Jews.

And I was always like, it's crazy because you have a shaved head. You wear your cute little suspenders, like a little boy, and he got your scary boots. To every single person that is not involved in the particular subculture you are, you look like a Nazi. Yeah, you just look like a regular skin head,

but they're like, no, look at the color of my shoelaces. Nobody knows what that is. It means nothing to a normal person. Nobody knows what that is. No, but it's all part of their plan because for them, I think their working theory is the way to heal a person's fear of, like the way to heal someone who's been a victim of racism is to dress up as close to a racist as you can. Yeah. And then walk right up to them looking menacing and saying, I see you as a human being. Yeah.

When I was 13, my group of friends and I saw that movie Suburbia, not that like 90s when they, 80s Penelope Sphiris one. Okay. And the skinhead in that punk movie like looks so cool that we're like, we need a skinhead to hang out with. We didn't have any yet. You gotta find a guy.

I drew the short straw and I shaved my head. Oh shit. And I had little like wireframe like round glass at the time. And I both looked like an inmate at and an accountant working for outfit. Oh. It was insane. I somehow completely bridged the divide of I created just a third,

I mean, in fairness, a good portion, an unnaturally high proportion of the inmates at Auschwitz were former accountants. Yeah, true. I mean. And only we three folks can make a joke like that. We're the only people allowed. The rest of you, back the fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Stop trying to meme that. But you were saying, Brace, you were watching us from the backstage area before I derailed it with our Fugazi reference. Yeah, they, uh, you guys should get like a Barry Weiss on here. very white very white you guys need some jewish lesbo in here to just be like

as like a kind of counterpoint to you guys because there's a lot of masculine energy yeah it's true it's too masculine people that's the number one complaint about this podcast is these guys fuck too much you know like people want us to have you know um just kind of

a more but like what can I say we're you know we're alphas you know famously I'm looking at us all three of us on the screen right now and I realized there's something wrong with Jewish people we all have glasses

all of these kind of soft faces Daniel you're kind of working with a little more crags than us but and you've got some structure on you Matt me I look like the moon with a like a smile painted on it yeah you two look like an old film from the 20s of the moon horrible fatty Arbuckle

but I'm just like they they need to we yeah well i think i think dynists were trying to solve the problem you're they were that's yes i mean they they they wrote about how disgusting and and and nebishi and how we didn't fuck as a people and they wanted to create a new a new chad jew basically yeah the the the the the sniveling ghetto bookish nerd jew the coward the the lamb to the slaughter no they were going to create a a desert uh chad jew or yeah as they pronounce it had Yeah Khad Jew

I thought our problem is that we're sexually neurotic Sorry sexually neurotic We're sexually neurotic We have too much sex It's true It makes you crazy

We beg to fuck too much Yeah Yeah they just They didn't like that we You know they saw us as like beta You know At least the like The OG Zionists

Like Jabotinsky and stuff We're just like You know These fucking European Jews Are just you know A bunch of betas and they need to they need to like man the fuck up and

do an apartheid state. They were actually secretly of the Andrew Tate School which goes so far in that direction that it comes back around to if you have sex with women that's gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this Dreyfus, who I know his little affair

Oh, I thought you meant like Julia Louis. No, no, no, no, no. Her great grandfather. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's right. You know, you could say that's one of Europe's first hustle culture guys absolutely absolutely yeah because he was saying more about that grind set the grindset mindset and people like wanted to like I don't know hate on his game but we're knocking the hustle yeah listen I'm I'm willing to accept that he didn't do it it it looks

a very apparent there is absolutely no evidence I believe that he did do it yeah but he should have done it yeah yeah if he had been you know a real modern Zionist Jew today yeah He would have done it and been proud of it and been like, there's nothing you can do about it. I hear him and Leo Frank are a bunkmates in eternity. Some of our, so yeah, my God. Anyway, only we are allowed to make these jokes. Sound off in the comments if you're not going to sound off.

Matt, nobody is going to make a joke about Dreyfus being guilty in 2024. Of course. One of the things I envy actually about your podcast brace is that you have a, a non-Jewish Polish co-host that you can ongoingly drag for being a secret anti-Semite. I think it's one of the funniest running gags you guys have with Liz.

That is one of the best things you can do to somebody who's not Jewish. The only thing we have that is, well, no, we have actually a lot of stuff. One of the main things that we have, though, is you can make people really uncomfortable by implying that they're being anti-Semitic

or just telling other people that they're being anti-Semitic. Now, I couldn't do this in a real way because I would feel guilty, but it works on the show. Yeah, this is one of the reasons that, you know, I became an anti-Zionist. It was just because I was like, they're destroying the power and the fun of accusing all of your friends of secretly hating you for being Jewish. Like they've taken that and they've weaponized it in a way in which like when you do it to someone, now they're going to be like, either they're going to be like that word doesn't mean anything anymore

or they're going to be like are you trying to get me fired it's the boy who it's the boy who cried Wolfowitz yeah exactly and it's fucking ruined it and uh for that reason alone genocide aside genocide aside genocide aside that I think is one of the largest crimes of this deal I'll say this

I was actually I don't know what the fuck I was reading but I was reading some shit the other day and it kind of came to the same conclusion that I as I did uh what the fuck was that it was some guy from like the 60s or whatever um and you know many people have have remarked upon like you know Jewish people who in the diaspora have been you know behind some of the best music books you know ideas literature whatever whatever whatever whatever whatever really good all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah.

You throw us in Israel. We get Fauda. Yeah, I know. We get Euphoria, which I know. I called that, by the way. I called that. And not the Kendrick Lamar joint either. No, fucking, when that show came out,

Euphoria on HBO, I was like, I don't know what it is about this show. I don't know why I don't like it. I can only describe it as it feels Israeli. And no one understood what I, I was saying and then I found out that it was based on an Israeli show I was right anyone seen Israeli euphoria no I would I I got to see I've never seen American euphoria but I got to see what they're I got to see their Sydney Sweeney I got to see what kind

of Jewish Sydney swine yeah I got to see a Jewish well so okay so speaking of Jewish euphoria oh speaking of life young newbile gyrating yes uh Israeli teenagers. We're going to get to something that we're going to get to something that Brace, you and Liz recently dove way deeper into than than any human with a soul should have to do, which is the Nova Music Festival exhibit. Oh, sure. New York City. But before that, I just want to ask you about the podcast in general for those who don't know it. Yeah. Um, what is the investigatory mandate of this show? Because you do, you guys do, you guys, you know, started with Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. And the range of topics that you come.

cover is just astonishing and it hangs together somehow but what what is the you know what what is the concept of the show well it's funny like unlike the third episode we realized it was like oh fuck there's like a lot of people listening to it's like we can't we're gonna run out of epstein stuff eventually uh we're gonna start making shit up you ran with it for a long time and you attended glenn maxwell's trial i mean anytime there's anything to do with it did you're right and i thought you did a wonderful job on our defense team and i'm sorry that you didn't get the the result you were looking for but i i don't think it was wasted money well it was the least i could do after all the free services she provided me over the years exactly and the art i i would say it's weird i think

the connective tissue is now a certain just a genus et guise um but uh i don't think they've ever i don't think they've ever the world has seen a pole and a jew come together like this uh and so i think that's really that's where a lot of them it's racial magic that we're making um but no i don't know i it's kind of just like we have a general list of episode types that we do like sometimes we do a freak episode sometimes we do like uh well actually a lot of more freak episodes sometimes we do like a like what we like think of as like an explainer episode where we like write out like we always have like around 10 pages of notes but usually like that sometimes it's like a lot more than yeah um and then sometimes we have

guess. I don't know what, there is no connective link, but it's sort of all goes together. It just, you know, the reason I'm asking is, you know, I have many favorite episodes. You guys did one that at the time, I thought, was just the peak of your intrepid bravery and your stomach for the difficult stuff and your ability to really go into disturbing places, which was the trip you took to Idaho at the end of a, an extent. ended series about the teen boot camp industry with which you have a personal history and I won't spoil it for people but it was it was gut wrenching and it was heartbreaking and it was brave and then you went to the nova music festival exhibit I'm like okay this tops that how the hell

did they stomach this so tell us about that trip I just have you guys heard this side trance stuff no what do you mean side trance PSY yeah like the gun like the Korean the Korean gentleman like psychology or that yeah and then a hyphen and then trance like to entrance to entrant well it's kind of like trance music yeah oh yeah not like i got to be honest with you uh-huh i never encounter anything like in my life it's horrible uh um you know i i figure well i we're trying to go more places now like on sale like we went to a uh Me and Liz went to a Trump rally last Saturday in Philadelphia, too. How was that?

Well, that was actually an entrepreneurly experiment because I'm trying to make gay election-related t-shirts to sell because I figured, listen, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican, but I am America's most prominent Maoist small businessman. And so I'm like, if I can't vote in this election, I might as well try to make a little bit of money off of it. It went over like gangbusters. They loved the T-shirt I brought. What was the T-shirt? It says Democrat, Republican, and it's like two check boxes unchecked, and then gay guy with a big-ass check next to it.

And for this one, I wrote, well, I had the printer write for Trump underneath it. But we're going to sell them for everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you working under your student in the end of the gay pussy Eda at that point? No, no, no, no one asked me my name. And much people took pictures of me, but I was I would I I I go under I haven't really come up with a pseudonym for Trump stuff yet, but I I'll get to it. Um, but uh, I, I don't do a shirt that says MAGA with three G's make America good giving in game again.

Yes. Yeah. Um, it, uh, but but the Nova music festival thing. I was like we got I, I, I didn't know what it was. I'd never even heard of it. And then there was a protest outside of it. Um, Which, you know, whatever, whatever, but like, I will say it did, I think that's the only way that people heard about the exhibit. Right. Because I interviewed a guy who was paid to set it up, but actually, I won't say anymore. I interviewed somebody who worked on it. Yeah. And you had an inside man, like a mole.

Yeah. Well, yeah, after the fact. And he was like, yeah, there was basically nobody that was coming. And then there was like a big rush after the protest. And then when I was there, I'm going to say there was about 150 people that I saw throughout in like the hour, two hours that we were there maybe. But it is a exhibition put on by Scooter Braun, who astute listeners of Bad Hasbro might know, is a close collaborator of Daniel. As you can see by the guitars in the background. You know, Daniel works for Scooter at Hybe Entertainment.

And so I don't know if this is a conflict of interest. Scooter Braun is... It's common knowledge that I did some ghost of writing for him, for sure. Yeah. Well, Scooter Braun is most famous for his long beef with Taylor Swift, America's most beloved white woman. And that's pretty much it. And being Justin Bieber's manager, and now he is, like, deep into K-pop.

Like, K-pop managing. I think BTS is, like, the group that he works with. Yeah. They're huge. So, the Nova Festival exhibit first actually appeared in Tel Aviv, which is in a city in this country called Israel. And I can't exactly tell, like, from the pictures and the articles I read, how much of it is the same. But it appears that, like, a big focal point of the Tel Aviv exhibit, at least, was essentially lost and found from the festival, right? So three to four thousand people were at this festival.

Very close to Gaza, 6.29 a.m. A couple of guys come in there without tickets and they shoot a bunch of people. And there was a, there was a, you know, a mass exodus, everyone leaving, leaving, leaving, you know, thousands and thousand people. They left all their stuff there. So actually, I hate that about music festivals, by the way. I've never been to it. It's just like, pick up the trash. You know what I mean? It's just like I see them and it just. It reminds me of that crying Indian from the 70s commercial, you know what I mean? You would have hated it. I would have hated Nova because they just left their shit there. Were people claiming it like a lost and found?

Like, oh, yeah, that's mine. I'll take that. Some people were. Yeah, like, some people were. But, like, frankly, I was thinking like, listen, if I had been in like, like, if I was on ecstasy and then Hamas came down and paragliders and shot everybody, I think I'd be like, I'm good on like the portable charger I left there. You know what I mean? Like, I'm good. I don't want that anymore.

Well, actually, Matt, just, can we just pause there? Because there's a video I'd love to play. It's right on the point with that. And ultimately, the shoes. I think for so many people, it's very reminiscent of what they see at the Holocaust Museum. Accidentally. And just, it gives you a sense of the scope of what was lost that day. Christ.

How did this come about? Well, you know, everything that you see here from all the belongings. and the tents and and the chairs and well with the help of the of the police we manage to gather all of these belongings this is the most Austrian-Israeli accent I've ever heard of my life yeah when you see the shoes it's it's clear it's it's it's it's reminding us exactly of what happened to to us a hundred years ago at the Holocaust and a hundred years ago at at the at the Holocaust he said Maybe he marks, maybe he marks the beginning of the Holocaust was sort of the, when things got tough in Vimar.

Yeah. He's like, hey, that's when they started it. People were running away and left everything behind, even their shoes. And I was one of the last people to leave the festival area. And we saw the tents broken and we saw all their belongings and bags. And I was asking myself, how could someone run away without the bag? But when terrorists are shooting at you, you're, you just. just leave everything behind.

Yeah, so that's it. So thanks for that insight. I was thinking to myself, how could someone run away without their bag? Yeah, right. And then he explains to us, but when terrorists are shooting at you, you just leave everything behind it.

Thank God for museums, you know, to explain these things. Well, yeah, so the, the, one of the articles that I read, I think it was like the Jerusalem Post, was a reporter interviewing people who had been at the festival who were at this exhibit and talking about like, they were literally looking through like oh my shoes are here right um and how and then i think

it was the same article might have been another one um a bunch of people were like i don't want to go because it's like bad like obviously if you were at the fucking this giant shooting where a bunch people died listen maybe you really like that like tote bag that from a bookstore that you brought there uh but like i'd be i'm good on the makeup bag i'm good on the makeup bag in the pup 10 i bought from fucking whatever Israeli Walmart is like and the birth control pills which I heard were among the exhibit lid item like they just famously so yeah they didn't even they didn't even filter

anything out well no I think well it's interesting you say that I feel like it wasn't that was intentional I think um you know I am almost certainly describing a slightly higher degree of intentionality to the organizer the exhibit than they actually displayed Ophir the guy that we just watched a video of does not seem to be maybe the most

together guy in the world but I think it was just to be like listen everybody's these are just young people having fun so what they do let me I'll just explain to what my experience they brought us in

there's all these like barricades and cops outside they're always on Wall Street but obviously like in front of this place especially right they bring us through metal detectors you know I'm packing obviously and they let me ride

but they had a I gotta tell you this there was a front desk the lady's sitting at it I don't understand what the point was because they didn't talk to us or anything they had another person to us

like in a large group into the next room a complete babe I hate to say it 10 out of 10 smoke show it was incredible and I was like well maybe

maybe they've got a point here but you know I went into this thing thinking like sexual Zionism baby That's how it works You know, I never went on birth ride I'm like maybe we could start now Yeah, yeah exactly

But you get it when you see like You know Pretty Israeli girl You forget about everything else You go Everything else Don't boom out Amisrael

I'm Israel Whatever whatever whatever Baby I love you No but I Standing in there I was like God I was really expecting

To feel bad Like I was like Listen I obviously am on the other side here but like I also don't think that you should kill people without guns and so I you know it's it's

the people can kind of twist themselves and knots whatever like moral justification they want to make I'm not even say there's a moral justification I'm not going to announce what happened but it's just like it is what happened and there's a tremendous amount of grief and loss as human loss as a result and shock and sadness and trauma I mean we just can't deny these things There's a human beings.

Yeah. There's a human happens. So it's understandable that the part of you that is human that remains inside that husk of yours of the soul might expect to go in there and feel some things a little complicated. But you ended up feeling how. Well, I ended up after they bring us into the mushroom stage for the first, they have was like a little video you have to watch and then you can go to the actual exhibit. And by the end of that video, I felt such a deep well of anger. and frustration and horror at anti-gematism

yes at interviews with all these fucking hippies with box braids and fucking you know like they're little like all over print fucking t-shirts and everything talking about the healing power of side trans music how it's all about peace and love and all this stuff

and I kept mentioned peace and you saw that right after October 7 how they were saying this is a peace festival. What the fuck is a peace festival? Yeah. It's not a peace festival. They were talking about plur. From the beginning when they said peace festival, they were talking about

plur. I was like, what's plur folks? Young people, tell me what plur is. I don't really know. Peace, love, unity respect or something. Yeah, it's a thing at like EDM festivals and shit. Or like any festival, people are like, just remember plur.

It's a, it's a thing that young horny men have to whisper in the ears of their sexual assault victims at these exactly to sue them yeah yeah um but by the end of this the the listen like again i i'm at if i'm i'm in their shoes right like and a bunch of guys come out of the sky and smoke a bunch of people i'm maybe not going to be like i love humas after that no it's it's it's it's legitimately terrifying like you know there's no part of me that that looks at of the victims and goes like, you know, I feel nothing.

Like I'm not a fucking psychopath, especially being an American. I'm like, yeah, no, I'm pretty much afraid of a mass shooting wherever I go in a large crowd. There's no part of me that can't like look at that and be like, that's fucking crazy, dog. Yeah. And, you know, and the other thing is just like my view on, exactly, same thing. Like I think it's like, it's really easy to talk tough or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, that doesn't mean anything. say whatever you want and and i think people are kind of people often try to seem if they feel hopeless or helpless and like they'll try to say the most radical things that even members of like the resistance won't ever say right yeah yeah yeah um overshooting the the radical runway exactly but but but but but uh i i do think that the the video that i watched which just displayed I'm not going to say you have to understand obviously a bunch of your friends just died

however I would fucking cool it on the fucking peace festival bullshit because the real the real deal is objective not like my political beliefs or anything like that you had your fucking music festival

like a mile and a half away from somewhere where there is apparently the existential threat to every Israeli's life but also a people that your country has

done every single fucking bad thing under the sun to yeah imprisoned and subjugated you know put under siege like like the

the very people that you like you said you consider to be an existential threat you're like well they're not so existential that we can't have a party yeah exactly

and it's these people these people it was so clear that like something like this I think I think what was so gone about it wasn't even anything particular that they said I think it was the fact that they would have never thought that there could be a problem with that. I think that was just something that I couldn't understand as a person.

Like, listen, I hate a lot of motherfuckers in this world. But like, I would still like, so even if these people were all like, fuck the Palestinians, which I'm sure in their heads, they were like, no, we get along with them really good. Right. And if we just try to manifest peace over here, we'll send good vibes over them there. and maybe it'll influence, you know, my brother who's a sniper patrolling the wall. Exactly. To shoot more at the ankles than at the abdomen.

Exactly. And so like my view on that is just like, oh, you, like these, like the people of Gaza are so far from your mind. Yeah. That like it, there is, there was a certain like hardening that I felt come over me. Um, after watching that because it was just like, God, you like, this is just come. I just couldn't understand it on a human level because even if I was them and I hated

the Palestinians or whatever I hated Hamas but I love the whatever fucking shit they say it would still occur to me that it might not be a fucking rocking idea to have my festival right next to the hot spot. Yeah I think peace love and blissful ignorance. Right

I think I I said something similar to this after this happened but it's like you know I don't I don't look at the the people attended the Nova Festival and go like, you know, oh, these guys are fucking scumbags because they attended this festival.

But I kind of, it's like I look at it more like, uh, this is the kind of weird hypocrisy, you know, they live with that they're so accustomed to that their government has, you know, put upon them,

uh, in which like they have a society where they, they're like, well we have this giant apartheid thing that we're doing it seems to be what we're doing and what are we going to not fucking have a dance

like like three kilometers from the thing we actually have some video clips of some of the videos I don't know Brice you might want to look away to relive this but just have a couple of short clips it's in the little folder there but just just watching it I had a taste of that hardening that you had because there's something so obscene about

well let's take a look at it and see if we can parse what is so offensive about this and so disrespectful to the victims too okay so we have a young man in what looks like like what E.T. War when he was in the basket right but it's very Arab-coated

and he's juggling something lit and there's a young woman and it's all are these actual okay and listen to the background music are those ghouls did they a bed of ghouls in the background of that music?

I'm almost certain that there's the chanting that we're hearing. If I'm not mistaken, that sounds like indigenous chanting from the ayahuasca context, like Quechua or Shepibo chanting. I've recognized that from when I've been in those contexts. And if it is, that makes me murderously angry. That's such a fucking, I mean, it's some kind of indigenous coded thing. And you got these white people dancing in slow motion

being on the new violin, enjoying their youth. Who is like, you know, he's hitting the ones and twos. And that's so that's enough, right? And so the thing that it just hits for me is that like this is this is what happens

to colonial progeny. They become this fetishized symbol. It's like a at the end of Kafka's metamorphosis, which is not colonial, but, you know, the sister with her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, what's so horrifying to people about the Nova Festival is not just that a bunch of kids died. It's that our. They were hot. They were hot. And they were somehow claiming their place as the sort of the cultural owners of this land. And they were beautifully ignoring the reality. Right. And you. interrupted our ignoring of you yeah you burst our bow dare you and you you you killed young sexually free and alive yeah uh you know the good look the sort of the the the ones that make us look like an attractive country the flowers of Tel Aviv i mean that's that's i think i think an

important thing to note with this is that like you know the um nova i believe i mean the two biggest sites of civilian deaths were obviously Nova and the kibbutzs, right? Right. And the kibbutzs are like kind of can be written off as like an anachronistic old hippies or whatever. Right, right. But the flowers of Tel Aviv that were that were blooming at Nova Festival, you know, those are people who actually like, it's not like they're fucking heretti or whatever or like some fucking like, you know, methed out group of young settlers.

Like these are people who have friends and jobs and like, you know, WhatsApp group chats Well actually I think everyone in Israel In fact everyone in the world There's WhatsApp group chats except for me But But it's like these This was like this was something that made

The events of October 7th Much more I think I mean I don't know in exactly what way But like you know people in Tel Aviv Connected people people with social media accounts People with TikTok accounts or whatever their friends dying or themselves dying or whoever dying

it made it more of like a a way for Israel to point at this and be like this could be you right 100% it made it like sellable that's how it's and it's how like you know we've talked about before with

sexual Zionism it's how this colonial project has been you know sold in the past too it's just like come to Israel look at this these ladies tities dump them out dump them out and you like want to like that's that's your figureheads those tities are your figurehead for your country so what to see that like um struck down it was like a perfect you know a cynical opportunity to use this to justify um what is you know

Nova times a thousand you know and exactly and and what's the alternative you do the uh what Vivian Silver Memorial Exhibit in downtown Manhattan, where you go through the life of Canadian-Israeli peace activist Vivian Silver with her friendships with people in Gaza and the work she was doing to, you know, in her own way, try to end apartheid and all this kind of stuff. No, they cynically use those people as a kind of throwaway line when they bring Christian groups to the Kibbutzim

and they say, look, you know, these people tried to make friends with these people and this is what happens when you try to be a peacenik in this region. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's, it's, I mean, the, the subtext that runs through the entire thing, which it tries to display itself as like a non-political exhibit, right? Scooter Braun and multiple interviews says, says the same thing. Like, it's, it's, it's, this isn't political. And so if you feel like you have to make a political statement about the, it obviously is political. I mean, not to be like an everything is political thing.

But, yeah, this is obviously political. It's not like a subtext or whatever. There's no question. It's political. Every part of this is meant to sell, like, I'm sorry. The very fact that it exists only, what, seven, six months after this mass atrocity. It actually started in January. That's insane, bro.

Yeah, like the fact that it started that early where they're already, and they're already doing the Holocaust comparison in the goddamn festival, in the exhibit, with the shoes, like that shit to me is wild because it's like, like, shameless in the way that they're, like, shameless. like, hey, how can we, how can we make this more holocausty? Yeah, I mean, that's, that's quite clearly the intention, right, is, is to, is to, is to the Holocaust, which, it's funny. I feel like that, that there's been several, like, all the lines have been kind of in constant currency since the beginning of the, of the current stage of the conflict.

Right. But for a while, like, some, some game primacy, right? And so for, like, the first week, you heard, like, this is, this is, this is. the Holocaust. They're doing the Holocaust again. And then it became like, I think it was Hamas is ISIS and like that didn't really catch off. Yeah, that didn't stick. I was like, well, then how come ISIS, what ISIS ever do to Israel? Yeah. Yeah. You got some unfortunate question. They're like, drop it. Drop it. And then the CIA called them up and be like, whoa, those guys are our friends. They're about to do some really sick shit in Russia right now.

It's like, chill. Um, but, uh, but, but, but this really brought the Holocaust stuff back to the fore and you see that like there are all the I think I think where a lot of the Zionist rhetoric especially around stuff in America comes

into trouble when the rubber reads the road is a lot of stuff when they like say like pogrom or or like invoke the Holocaust because I think the experience of the I'm going to say the conscientious Jew and not saying someone like some fucking woke like i'm you know mr woke rabbi or whatever but like just a jewish person who isn't like

a fucking made uh neurodivergent or whatever by years of like the most fucking brain deadening fucking yeshiva shit yeah um and and and so you realize like that is just completely not the experience and like i think it's the it's it's to me that what was so interesting in how violet was was the the primacy of the holocaust in jewish life which is like that is basically like you know we had temple judaism whatever like now it's holocaust judicism like this is the main holocaust is the main thing that's ever happened to jews yeah um and and this just seems like a reflection of that but it's so insulting because you know it's just so clearly not the same um and and and like there's a reason why like

Holocaust comparisons in the past have always been touchy for Jewish people because of the fact that it was, you know, to diminish the Holocaust in any way. It used to be never again and never compare. Yeah, right. I mean, that was a tenet. That was a tenet of Holocaust memorialization to compare lesser things to the Holocaust was tantamount to Holocaust denial. Right. And especially in this case when you're having a fucking rave. on the outskirts of the closest thing

to a concentration camp that currently exists in the world that comparison is especially egregious Yeah I mean I thought that that was totally absurd And so the feeling that one gets From walking through the exhibit Is it feels like an episode of euphoria

I guess it kind of is Israeli euphoria But it's lit with bisexual lighting There's foggreens everywhere There's little videos on like cell phones that are playing like not the two graphic of videos mostly just videos of people running and stuff there are a couple they have a Zaka rape room

where they have a they got a Zaka rape room not the goat Yossi but they have another Zaka another Zaka rocker talking about in very vague terms about the sexual assault he yeah yeah and and that room was the most budget it was just a red light and some fog and then a video it was in a way kind of like entering you know how we don't really know what's up with our hell or heaven yeah like we don't have hell but like we don't really have having yeah we just never got to that part um i kind of feel like hell would be entering a room with a bunch of red lights and fog machines yeah and the end there's like a 30 inch chinese tv

low fidelity, low relative to the digital fidelity of today, with a guy from Zaka on repeat. That's all this room was, my brother. But every time it repeats, he adds one gory detail. One more baby, one more baby in the oven. Yeah, and then they had a bunch of, like, well, a bunch. They had like five burnt cars. There was trash everywhere.

I'm talking about empty packs of cigarettes. Like this is not, you didn't leave this behind. because you got killed. You left this behind because it's an empty pack of cigarettes and you littered. Right. Invite people to just add to the exhibit by bringing in their trash. Well, I couldn't figure out if some of the stuff was littered or not from people in New York. It was an ad for a sneaker dealer.

And I was like, did somebody leave this here? Because it wasn't like dusty or whatever. It was just on a chair. I'm like, there's no way. Do they have Sabaro pizza? Yeah. In near Gaza? Wow.

They have MTA cards. Matt, they invented Sabaro. Let's show a video, let's show a picture of some of the text, some of the wonderful copy that you got to see there. Do you remember this, this, this, this is the beginning. I, no, I don't, this wasn't the one of the beginning because the one of the beginning had numbers. So I will say they had a bunch of this around, but aside from like stuff like that, there was basically. Brace, let's read it for the people who are just listening first or just read some of it, okay. Do you want to read it maybe in your Mordecai bin Mowal platinum bird's voice?

It was a festival that only few knew about. Thousands of radiant souls came together for a celebration of unconditional love in the spreading of light. In one moment, the festive atmosphere is shattered. The angel of death. Mengelah! Hamas has mangola! They had their own mangola. Oh, my God.

The angel of death swoops firing a- Slayer starts playing. The angel of death swoops firing a barrage of hateful missiles. Not just missiles. These missiles were racist. That cut through the joy like an icy vint of Vind. The air thick with laughter and friendship becomes a terrifying scene The air becomes a scene

The hateful missiles Cut Through the Joy like a winter wind And the air becomes a terrifying scene I'll have you know young man Now I sound like Finkelstein I'll have you know young man I spent 30 chat GPT tokens writing this And you are being so disrespectful

Do you know Did you know that they have Fellows in India That are writing this stuff? They say it's Chad GPT It's some guy N-R-C-N-R-C-N-A-C-H-A-T-H-A-T. It's like a type of food, I think.

I will say, at the beginning, over, looming over the smoke show at the desk, there was a similar sign that gave kind of a rundown. I was, I didn't really read it that closely, to be honest with you, but I did look at the numbers. and the numbers were just straight up wrong. They said 1,300 civilians were killed that day, which is just not true. I mean, it's just not true.

It's not even the correct total number of Israelis and people killed, period, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it's, it's something like 700 civilians, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 700 civilians, and then the rest military personnel. But that doesn't add up to 1300. They should have made it 600, they should have made it 613, one priest, the mitzvote, the commandment. That's right. And I was like, oh, that's extraordinary. They got that wrong.

So, like, if you actually added up the numbers at the entrance, you'd get something like 2000 because they calculated, not calculated. They just listed the military personnel as separate. So they said 1,300 civilians, I think, like 600 military personnel, blah, blah, blah. And, but beyond that, there's no context on anything. There's no descriptions of any video you're seen except for the Zaka Rape Room. there's like general context of what is in a room but individual things are not labeled which I thought was an interesting choice which you know one one tends to ascribe I feel like sometimes a little bit more intelligence to one's ideological enemies that perhaps they deserve

and I in this case I'm like I know that these guys just don't know how to do an exhibit because like you could have actually done a more effective propagandistic I feel like I feel like if Sun Su was living today, he would have had to do a revised edition of the art of war, Zionist, Zionist version. Yeah. Where it's like, don't respect your enemy. Right. Don't give him the benefit of the doubt. Assume he'll say the stupidest thing.

Yeah. No, I mean, it is, it's when the protests were going down for it. I remember my initial thought was kind of similar to like when I first saw people doing the ripping down. of the posters which was like this feels like they like this this this feels like they're they want you to uh to try to get fired yeah yeah this way you know they get a video of people ripping it down and they you know and then and then you know you can't explain to a general public who really doesn't know what's going on uh you can't explain no this is you understand that this is a propagandistic so i'm doing this yeah like no the

It just, it looks like what it looks like. And I'm not an optics person. So I'm not going to like tell people like, don't do it or whatnot. So I wanted to, I wanted to attend, but they just haven't done one in L.A. yet. And I just, they're going to. I know they are. They're bringing it to Los Angeles.

No, they are literally bringing this. Oh, they are. They are doing it. They're literally bringing it to L.A. They're going on tour. They're going on tour. Coast to coast. Yeah.

To be honest, like, listen, I don't plan protests. I'm not, you know, I go to them. in fact i frequently see your brother daniel um and uh but you know i don't plan on your brother become a cop uh well it's you know it's funny your brother actually took a picture of me in front of a short cop at the last protest oh really yeah um short short cops is another one of uh braced and liz's obsessions on the i i i i there's once you see we stand a short cop um but uh yeah i mean yeah it's i mean i have listen i i've no idea but like i i i i i i i would I will say I think that there's probably something better than maybe just a straight protest outside.

I don't know what it is though. But like really I this is one of those things. People always say this and I think 99% of the time they're wrong. But like literally if you just like like people did not know this is happening and it's so tacky and weird. Yeah. Like the only reason someone's going to go in a genuine way is out of sympathy. Like I was looking at the people who were. at this thing.

And it was all like modern orthodox motherfuckets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, this is, well,

you guys just like, come in for this? Like, what are you here? Yeah, it's because the group chat said, we have to go support this. The,

you know, the pro Hamas people are doing a pogrom. And it's like, you know, again, I'm not trying to police anyone from doing, I don't, whatever your strategy is,

I don't really fucking care. My whole thing is, is I look at this and I go, like, recognize bait, guys. Let's just, recognize what bait is and i think like you probably would do a lot better to uh completely ignore

the existence of these of these things that are like obviously meant to uh to get you to give them free advertising um and and and focus on other things like for example we'll talk about in the second half of this episode if i think it is a good thing to go protest uh a uh a land sale that's happening in occupied Palestine. That is actually a worthy protest. Right. It seems to me that doing what you guys did, which is going there and just describing it, or you could go there and troll it, you could go there and strike up inappropriate

conversations with other, you know, like, is that number right or like, you know, did some, you know, just, you know, go in there and it's there to be infiltrated, make it, make it whatever you want to make, if you can stomach it. I would find it hard, you know, there is something very Zionist about the sort of, uh, at least it's Zionist coded for me because I went to a Zionist summer camp. We thought of ourselves as a progressive Zionist summer camp, but fundamentally when it came down to it, it was Israel all the time.

And the holiday that I remember hating the most in the middle of the summer was a holiday that I didn't know existed until I went to a Zionist summer camp, which is Tisha of, Tishaba of, which is the ninth of the month of of. And it commemorates the fall of the Second Temple, the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 after, Croist. Yeah. 7080. But did you say Croist?

Croist, yeah. That's how I pronounced it back then. Oh, Christ. Croist. Yeah, Croist. But what Zionists have done is they've grandfathered, so to speak, onto that every Jewish calamity of all time. Right.

So the Spanish Inquisition and Kristallnacht and the Dreyfus Affair and blah, blah, blah. Oh, and then the Munich Olympics. right and then you know some suicide bombing and now it would be this and what we used to do at summer camp what they would make us do is what was called a harrogate fair and i don't know where that comes from but it's a certain kind of human exhibit where they lead us down a forest path because we were in the this is in british columbia where i was set rogan's camp counselor they would they would lead us down this forest path and in little clearings unexpectedly along the way on either side would be tableaus counselors would be in tabloes with a lot of ketchup being used to symbolize blood of yeah yeah yeah so the

destruction of the second temple you'd have you know a counselor in some kind of aluminum foil hat roman something or other so on and so forth and all the way through to the Munich olympics a lot of grief and we're just and they're they're holding this these wax museum type poses and it was very very very very modeling and manipulative and it would all always lead towards Israeli tragedies, you know, suffered by Israelis, and then we'd go and have deep discussions about how we felt, we process our feelings. And that's exactly what this sounds like here. And it's the most cheap-ass, manipulative, we're going to make you feel something, which is what birthright is. It's just, it's so crazy to me because the fact of the matter,

I said this earlier, but in exile, we have truly, I got to say, fucking rocked it. I mean, I get it. We got, we got. We got. rocked ourselves in a lot of countries, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah. I get that that happened. But despite that, we rocked it. We paid the cost to be the boss. That's right.

Like, what now? Come on. It's horrible. I mean, on the very first time I guessed it on this podcast, I talked to Matt about just how comedy itself, which is, I mean, the Jews brought modern comedy to America. And we teamed up with black people and created. entertainment and somehow Israel's managed to kill humor and satire and irony like it's like imagine a Jewish country incapable of irony I know that's what I that's I've been yeah they're capable of

they're definitely capable of being ironic but I don't know if it's a they don't know it they're they're capable of dramatic irony yeah they can do dramatic irony not tonal irony not and not ironic humor they're capable of sarcasm not irony I think I think I've come to the point where I've started to, like, really resent the way in which Israelis, when they're talking about, you know, what the Jews have done, you know, look at how we've thrived. And they start getting into, like, you know, fucking ways and cherry tomatoes and, you know, taco salads or whatever. Drip irrigation. Yeah, drip irrigation.

McDonald's and like I start resenting it because I'm just like motherfucker Gershwin's one of us Yeah well it's just like I ain't Sondheim motherfuckers Sondheim like you're not even close Like they invented bullpup I would say probably one of the more famous bullpup rifles

And then also the goofiest looking AR platform rifle I've ever seen You know the teeny one they give them Oh I don't even know that one I have a little teeny one. I think it's because they got all them chicks in the fucking army there. But they got a little, you know how like an AR is like a, not always, but like it's a, it could be a big guy, you know, the one in use by most military is certainly is a big guy. Right.

They got tiny little guys. They made a little guy version of that. I'm not even joking, man. Look up Israel small M16. Let's just take a look at these. I'm sorry. Okay. Just for anyone who's watching, this is a little ass gun.

This is a little boy. They're like basically, I don't know if they're pistol calibers. or what but like i think they used to be more common i think they use longer ones now but you used to always see pictures of like people in the idf with like a nine inch barrel fucking a r and it's insane i guess it's because their country's so small shutlin machine gun says uh producer adam well and it's you know you know how in the wire they had uh b n bg yeah yeah big big negro big gun yeah this is this is S-J-S-G small-J-S-G small gun It's just like

Yeah, I don't know I guess it's because maybe we got the little little arms Yeah But I mean, I mean, just to be real for a second To the Palestinians who have been massacred by these things Yeah They're plenty big Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

There's nothing diminutive about the The murder The murder capacity Right, but I think it's important to let The soldiers know that they uh look look fucking silly doing it yeah fucking pathetic one of the coolest things you can do as a soldier you know what is carry a big ass gun around yeah it's not just for looks

it's because if you have a big ass gun they're actually much better at shooting you saw when hamas smoked those fucking three uh those maybe it was more than three uh those israeli guys that were in the tunnel and they were like we got the bodies and they didn't and they had the bodies yeah if you look at the gun the is they got from the Israeli, it's like a fucking 9 millimeter submachine gun. Like, you can wear like civilian armor plates and like withstand that. These

guys, I got to tell you, maybe I bid into the fucking propaganda, but I thought the IDF was a better arm. They're training our police? I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe anymore. I don't feel safe anymore because I don't think these guys are good at it. Clearly not.

No. That's a subject for a whole ass episode of bad as far. And if I was a black or brown American, I'd be offended that the people who are going to harass me and, and, and, you know, turn my neighborhood into an occupation zone or so doing such corny shit with the right. Yeah. And all their weapons are bitch made. Get those fucking Colombian mercenaries at Saudi Arabia sent to Yemen or something. Right. Then I'd be like, all right. Okay. We're getting so real, real death squads. Not these little fucking. You're about this policing shit. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So before we do some, you mentioned, you know, free advertising there, Matt, before we do some non-free advertising, I just wanted to, I'm just going to grab my guitar here for a second. You guys just kick it for a second because you talked about them going on tour and they need a theme song and they have that slogan, We Will Dance Again. And I just thought it had it had to be done. So just give me a second.

Are you going to do a fucking song? You know, it's funny. They had We Will Dance Again, but then also ever else, never again. And I'm like, you really got to. know how to order those. Yeah. You just got to pick one. We either again or not again. And then they're like Hamas is like again and again and again. So we have to do a never again to there again and again again.

But we will dance again. It's like too much again, guys. I'm like slow down and just kind of, I don't know, figure out a message here. But we will dance again thing is even more annoying because of the fact that it's just like I, I've seen countless TikToks of you literally. dancing on top of the rubble of homes. Yeah. You're already dancing again and it's like really turning me off to the concept of dance. Yeah, stop dancing already. All right. So this is my little free, free intellectual property for them. It's just a chorus. Yeah. Okay. Hell yeah.

I'm Israel, we'll dance again to Euro-Trans and Techno-Rhythm Though we stole the dance floor from them You know it's all for love Should have known better than to hold a rave Outside a prison full of haters But we're still gonna dance again because we're a peace-loving jews i want you to come it needs a little work maybe but uh beautiful

you're good you're good you got the b b seal of approval that was fantastic daniel you you you're bringing all the fire today you're like doing the fucking the research you're hosting the episode you did a fucking song extra credit do you know how much i love you right now Like, Brace, I don't actually know how you do your podcast without, like, going insane. We don't do, like, I don't do like a quarter of the research that you do. And I, I want to die. I was born to be annoying. And the podcast at this juncture is the most effective way I can be annoying.

But we do it. Well, our problem is we do it twice a week. And that's just, it drives you crazy. Yeah. But we got a tip line. episode we're doing tomorrow and I got to tell you.

That's like mailbag like easy peasy listen to some shit easy peasy we're having it we're having a Jewish comedian on and we're but we always get really good tips including one's about no we got well no I said Sarah and we got

we got a we got a two tips about Fetterman which I feel like I should mention on this show. We got a We got to show your Fetam and tweet. Hold on. Let's find that.

I like it. First of all, did you read that New Yorker fucking profile on him? He only communicate. Oh, yeah. They made one. Israel has constructed a golem? It's a video of Bebe Netanyahu bringing his golem out. Honestly.

Lurch, you know, rubbing his hand. and sludging allegiance. I made him from play. Both Pennsylvania natives. Both Pennsylvania motherfucking natives. That's right. Yeah. But we got one that he brings his own heavy creamer.

He gets iced coffee on his way to, or on his way to D.C. from Pennsylvania, like when he's driving back and forth. And he brings his own heavy creamer in a plastic cup, like heavy cream that he pours into his ice coffee. He has, his own fucking creamer he has his own creamer but he also which is in his hot ass car oh but but but but and that new yorker article i read so he is completely

he's gone well he's a little i think he's a little tartar yeah i mean you know i feel he had a stroke he had a stroke yeah and i and i you know i got to be honest with you i don't i think it did a number on him uh i would never a big fan before i don't like progressives because i'm I'm like, well, what are you progressing towards? But, uh... He's a few matzah short of a box. But I'm going to tell you, anybody who likes Jews this much, what is wrong with you? Completely agree.

What is wrong with him? Him and Richie Torres need a support group. Richard Torres needs to be arrested and executed as far as being the most egregious violator of the fucking FARA act that there has ever been in history. Torres, Torres, I got to tell you. I, I'm going to, I think if you just, well, Richie Torres is getting. right he's gotta be I think he is he dresses too well I can't

well then this sounds homophobic if I say it well imagine he's not gay for the purposes okay yeah for the purpose of the joke yeah let's say he's not if you take out an uncircumcised penis around Richie Torres his motherfucker is drawn like that

it's like flies to shit he is any any kind of I'm gonna tell you I bet I could borrow up to $5,000 from Richie Torres if I just be like Yeah, yeah, I'm going to Jerusalem this weekend to do some Jewish shit. Can I have $5,000? The guy is not.

What does the people in the Bronx think of this? I don't even know. I think I don't understand how voting works. Because at this point, I'm just like, I know some people do it, but is it really just, is it really just ghouls who vote? Just the way it seems like the only people who get to win elections. are ones who APEC has endorsed. I'm like, yeah, I don't even really know, dog. Like, do people in the Bronx, are they like all about Richie Torres?

Is there a portion of the Bronx is the only place that actually votes? And it's like a yeshiva. Like, what is the only pro Bronx and I thought stand up thing I've ever seen him do was recently. There was a tweet by some Israeli-born American lawyer who's running for office in Las Vegas or Nevada somewhere. I think we have a we have a we have a we have a we have the picture of the tweet there it's the hood rat one. Oh let me see if I can find the hood rat it's under it's in the Bowman it would be in the Bowman full okay okay okay uh this woman uh tweeted something really egregiously racist about Bowman and of course Bowman and Torres are on up very

different sides of the APAC issue um let's just take a look at what she said well I'm trying going to get to Bowman oh she called him a hood rat she said We need to send this DEI higher back to the ghetto or whatever. And Richie Torres, Richie Torres, without even qualifying it, without even saying, look,

I disagree with Jamal Bowman. He's an anti-Semite and drinks Israeli blood. But no, he didn't even do that. He just said, you know, many of my constituents are from Section 80. I grew up in,

uh, in public housing and this is disgusting and you're a racist. So I, I didn't expect actually even that modicum of, uh, integrity and maybe it was pandering, but I had to give him respect for that. He's done one thing.

He always says he grew up in public housing. And I'm like, what? A cabots? Like, what did you grow up in? I just like, what is going on here, brother? It's, it's, I had to, because imagine if I was like that to black people. I know.

Everyone would think you're suss. And no one would think it's weird to be like you are suss. Exactly. It is so strange. is black shan king it's fucking crazy he's it's the exact same kind of thing it is fucking weird man and like i completely agree like i remember when i first heard the term phylo-semitism as a form of anti-semitism uh i thought it was when you i thought that was when you like to eat jews wrapped in greek pastry that's part of it too though it's it's like every

you know it's like instead of being you know i hate the jews it's like when you love the Jews like a little too much. And I remember when I first heard that, I was like, oh, there's a word for that because I've experienced that. It's a weird thing because, like, you're not as, like, Jewish people. Like, none of us have necessarily been, like, fetishized or, like, you know, it's not, it's rare. Occasionally, someone will just be like, oh, a Jew. And you're like, oh, where's this going?

I dated a woman who really liked Jews. And I remember thinking, like, sick, you know, this is good. But then she kept hitting me, like a lot. And it was just like how she communicated or something. And then finally, I went over. What's that? Latina? No, she was just a white girl.

And I went over to her house, to her apartment and her room, shit you not. Poster's all over the wall. of jerry lewis and i i immediately is like oh this is this is not she's vishy french yeah dude she i don't think that's loving jews i think that's wanting to humiliate jews that's like that's like the like if you're gonna be fetishizing a jew like larry david i get because it's like he has this kind of disgusting hotness to him like you're just like oh i just want to like a a weird guy to eat my ass or whatever or it's like jeff goldblum was just like oh there's something you know like sexual power there but jerry goldberg yeah exactly jeffrey goldberg

great writer but like to ask ask the tough questions ask the tough questions but like that's a little prison guard joke go yes uh but to like i don't know man to like be sexually attracted to Jerry Lewis was like this explains why you're mean to me right you turned your nose up at Jerry Lewis pussy no I didn't turn my nose up at it eventually you know it just didn't work out because she kept being mean to me and I was like I think you're I don't know if you actually like Jews I dated I I dated a chick who she's like on the phone with her dad she's from Eastern Europe yeah yeah it's a long ass time ago and she's like yeah I'm dating this guy and her dad's like is he Jewish?

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Boy, I've been doing a lot of hip-hop references at this episode. We're going to move on to something that happened in your city. In your city, there is a problem, Matt Lieb. Why don't you tell us a moment? You live in Israel? Yeah, well, you know, I mean, the West Bank. You live in Gaza? He's the mayor of Gaza.

Yeah, but like I'm in the north, dog. Like, we're good now. Everyone's, I'm kind of the one stealing all the food. I, no, I, born and raised in West Los Angeles. And how dare you? Whenever I see something's happening in the news vis-a-vis. Israel and it's happening in my part of town I get very excited because I grew up around a very specific type of like Jewish person I mean there's a lot of of course like the your regular

you know middle class Ashkenazim you know reform Jews and whatnot but Allah yes a lot of a lot of making Chala on Fridays but there's also especially in the pico robertson neighborhood a huge uh population maybe the biggest population of like orthodox and modern orthodox jews in los angeles um and like there's there's some of the most some not all of the most psycho people when it comes to israel i mean i live right like grew up right next to the museum of tolerance right next to uh museum of tolerance yeah straight up um um the museum where we learned to just barely put up with shit no no no no no no someone i know was telling me that when she was a kid they made her go sit they have gas chambers there is that

yeah they got all sorts yeah they go sit in the gas chamber they have gas chambers they have uh they have a hall uh that just yells racial slurs at you really yeah yeah this is from my memory a hall that yells racial slurs of you yeah yeah which ones Well, you know, like all of them. They yell the N-word at you in a hall. This is from my memory, but a little bit of my memory is mixed from a cell. I go there. I go there.

It's just, I go there to just even once in my life I can feel down. Yeah, it's great. The closest I'm ever going to get to a pass, you know. That's the craziest. I have to, I have to piece together a lot of my memories from it from my childhood because it was a thing. It was like a. You probably get to learn. So many slurs before you did what I did.

Yeah, you learn new ones, which is nice. And it's like, you know, you get to like just put them in your back pocket for whenever you meet an Irishman. Yeah. But, but it's like, you know, it's, it's, it's an amazing, it's an amazing museum. It's the Simon Wiesenthal Center, I believe it's called. Love it. It's the very museum where they have a cafe that my dad one time he sent back the soup for not being hot. enough and he created more anti-Semites in the process of that but um this neighborhood has got

it's like little Israel or littler Israel and recently they had uh there's a a shul there synagogue and a shul called a das Torah and I saw popping up on Twitter that a pogrom was happening They did a pogrom in it. West Hollywood? West L.A. West L.A. A West L.A. Pagrom. And I, and whenever, you know, something's going on there, I get very excited. I start looking to see if I know any of the people on the pro-Israel side, because a lot of them have sold me drugs. And so just to give you a brief rundown of that, the videos showed generally pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli people fighting each other. out of context, just little bits and pieces of it. And I knew immediately, I was like, this is fucking, this is insane. There's no, there's, there's no way that the narrative of this is going to be the pro-Palestinian people went there to beat up the Jews.

Because it's just not, it's just, it is not physically, the laws of physics make it impossible for, for the pro-Israeli side. in this particular part of the city to be the victims. They're all snapping their, they're all snapping their fingers like, those Jews are going to pay tonight. Exactly. So here's a local news report about the incident, which hopefully does give like a little bit of context,

but it leaves out, I think, some important details. And I'll play it for you right now. Well, like it blew up very, quickly yesterday, that this was an event that pro-Palestinian protesters, they had organized around a real estate event that was going to be going on at the synagogue, a large synagogue, in the Pico Robertson neighborhood of L.A. That is a predominantly Jewish neighborhood of L.A., probably the most prominent Jewish neighborhood here in Los Angeles. And as this was going on, outside the synagogue, it went from a relatively small crowd to then quite a large crowd, about

150 protesters who were outside trapping those who were trying to get into the synagogue, they were not able to get in, but then there were the clashes. Trapping those who were trying to get in. Into the wider world. They were trapped

and confined to the rest of the planet. The rest of the planet. The most insane spin. It went on, and it got quite violent. The LAPD saying one arrest was made. Incredibly, nobody was injured. When you look at these images of how violent it got I love nobody's

injured there's we're watching still shots was injured in the end people being injured but there were a lot of punches a lot of kicks being thrown from both sides the one arrest a pro-Israeli protester

who had a flag with a spike on the end of it so now that because he got the idea from the woman who claimed to have been stabbed in the eye by the Palestinian flag. He's like, oh, that's a, that's an idea. We'll beat them at their own game.

Yeah. And so there's a lot going on in that video. No injuries is insane because there were many injuries. And like mostly they just happened to the protesters who were there. And what the thing they were protesting was is of importance to mention. because what it was... Judaism. Yeah, they were there to protest Judaism.

They don't like it. They heard about it. They were like, this doesn't seem to make it. It was an atheist protest. One God? Are you kidding me? Just like the attack on the Nova Festival

was an attack on dancing writ large. Exactly. No, this was an attack. I will say I was one of the most important tenets of modern Judaism. That's right. I will say that. I will allow that.

Yes. One of the most important tenets of modern Judaism. Yeah. the Palestinians no so it was this there was a yes yes very holy yeah oh buying land it's yeah you're just praying get my get behind me brokers so yeah there was I mean this was advertiser was a real estate sale or or you know fucking, what do you call it, when the 3, 45, the expo, like a real estate

expo, yeah, yeah, an auction, that's the one. And oh, sorry, a little bit more info on that. So at most of the events was a company called My home in Israel. My home in Israel. Which is very much like,

that's someone who has buying a second home. Let's be real. Yeah. Brought along to showcase available properties in both Israel and the Palestinian territories it occupied. Like, you know, East Jerusalem, townhouses near Ariel University, so the West Bank, a five-bedroom villa with a pool in the luxury enclave of Efrat, south of Bethlehem. Okay, so none of those examples are inside 48 Israel, none of them.

East Jerusalem, occupied Palestinian territory. The Ariel University, obviously, it's a settlement, and Ephraat, also a settlement south of Bethlehem. Yeah. I mean, it's, that is selling other people's stuff. So there's a good reason to go and protest that. You know what I mean? Like Gaza, Gaza has been listed as a unique fixer upper opportunity. Yeah, exactly. Let me ask you this. You can't say I'm the most religious guy in the world. It's just the fact. Jesus. Yeah. I, you know, it's not, I, I never really understood what was going on there. I thought we believed in Jesus until I was like 25, and then I realized that we actually did something horrible to him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't believe people aren't even more mad at us. Yeah. But I am Jewish. Mm-hmm. I don't remember ever reading about real, do we, are we allowed to do real estate auctions in the temples? I don't know.

I don't listen I'm not Let me ask you Let me ask you something further I bring a fucking lamb in there To fucking richly sacrifice it Right I douse that motherfucker in gasoline The cheapest one

And I start lighting off matches Once that I've gotten for free At the front of restaurants That I did not dine at And I'm trying to sacrifice this motherfucker As a burn offering to God Everyone's on the phone with the police right away Yeah

Immediately We're supposed to do that in the temple But I bring in my my real estate auction for some fucking Arab apartment building and it's okay and it seems sacrilegious to me is what I'm saying. Actually speaking of Jesus

you know there's the famous moment where he overturned the open house signs in the temple. I'll tell you this Jesus was wrong for that shit though. It's like okay the temple was probably the nicest building in Jerusalem right? Yeah.

Where are the money lenders supposed to go? Are where the money like i'm sorry there's a it's a fucked up crazy world there's lots of coins from all different places people want to change that shit people want to maybe make a little money doing that shit and they want to do it in a nice building you want them to do it in a fucking ditch jesus right sorry not everyone's dad is god dude i'm sorry oh like that's ridiculous to me nepo people are like yes the dude who's 100% going to heaven and gonna live in paradise yeah no matter what no matter what yeah he's

fucking up those stupid fucking the money lenders corrupting the temple or whatever oh the money lenders with families where's your family at jesus where's your family at oh that's right you don't even have a dad you don't have a you don't have you first of all yeah you don't have a dad i don't know what happened to your mom really i don't really know what happens to her but i know catholics like her a lot and latinos in general seem to but so she's cool she's cool i know there was a hooker a sex worker in there at some point i genuinely don't understand what was going on with that but I'm like okay some of us have multiple wives

because back then it was hard for them to if you just had a one town over that would never meet each other I can't exchange money right to feed my families how do you think an economy works Jesus yeah oh I don't have to worry about that I'm going to heaven yeah we do

we live here on earth and we again I don't really know if we have heaven yeah and also we're just hearing about this hell thing for the first time and you're scaring the shit out of You're scared because you know what's held to me is being in my temple where I'm Jewish and I'm doing a Jewish thing exchanging money or whatever those guys are doing and then a guy who's about to invent the whole shit that rocks our fucking world unfortunately comes in is like no don't do this in here but you don't want us doing any of this in there you're not even Jewish anymore look look it's bad enough that he told us we have to forgive everybody it's quite another thing to tell us we have to forgive all the loans that we've taken. that we've given them at forgive loans kind of a fucking asshole you know i kind of i don't want to like get cancel or nothing but i kind of get killing jesus now well no so i'll tell you this

how you don't get cancel for that because people do get pissed at us for having done that sorry didn't know uh but wasn't the ashkenazi jews who did it on on the plus side wasn't it wasn't our kind yeah but i'm like okay play this out and jesus doesn't get crucified what religion do you have dude you have nothing we did that shit because that's god's plan right like yeah if if jesus didn't sacrifice himself for everybody and like other sins or what are that stuff you're going to go to fucking hell so like i made you go to heaven which i don't even know if i get to go to so like i don't understand people yes we killed jesus christ which is the basis of christianity your entire religion yes you're welcome

You don't get mad at the fucking guy who like shoots the starter pistol at the beginning of a race. That's how you knew it's time to go. We're nailing him up and we're like, all right, you're about, you guys are going to have a great couple thousand years. Let me tell you that. It's going to be a little rough at the beginning, but I'm going to tell you in about 1,200 years. They're going to be so many of you. You're going to make different kinds of. Also, you're going to be alive again in three days.

Yes, three days, dude. Oh, I'm sorry. You got to chill in a fucking cave for three days with none of those big mother and you. You can't hang for three fucking days. And then you get to fly. Yes. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this Jesus.

All the perks that came down the pike for Christians. I mean, all the churches and the swag and the Pope's, the way the Pope gets to live and the institutional cover that pedophiles get to have to try their trade and practice their love with our children, you know, under cover of the cloth. I mean, we made all this possible.

All your funky little shit, You guys have, first of all, pause, but you guys have a fucking dude around your neck at all times. And it's like, okay, granted, the symbol for Judaism, the little Magandavid, the motherfucker, we might have kind of made that shit up in like the 16th century or whatever. Whatever. Whatever. But like, yours is just a dude? Like that. A dead guy.

A dead guy. He's not even dead. It's a dude's death bed. Because is he really dead if he comes back three days? He might have physically died. but it's just like all right his soul still alive his soul still alive and then his body was still alive three days later it's like why don't you get mad at god for him for making him go to heaven like a little bit after that you know yeah be mad at that that fucking barabbas dude so guys just to just to put a nail a final nail on the crucifix of this highly cancelable segment just to make sure that the bible belt hates us bad has barra is bigger than jesus that's right come at us like you did john lennon the beetles yeah Matt, we should wrap probably in the next 20. What else have we got to talk about?

Well, let me just, let me, let me, uh, finish on what exactly how this whole, uh, pogrom wrapped up. Oh, good. Um, so despite the fact that, uh, my neighborhood, back to our regular pogroming. Sure. Um, uh, despite the fact that I was like, you know, don't, don't, don't bring news cameras to this neighborhood. Because as soon as you bring in news cameras, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to put on a show. for you because if there's one thing that these like pro-Israeli uh like uh yeshiva guys and fucking

orthodox uh people going to the fucking you know palisian land sale want it's they want to spin you a story but people immediately bought it and it was crazy because i was seeing it being shared by people who i know are local la has bars and not two hours later the fucking president of course on cue is like I'm appalled by the scenes outside of a Das Tora synagogue in Los Angeles. Intimidating Jewish congregants is dangerous and consulable, anti-Semitic, and un-American. Americans have a right to peaceful protest, but blocking access to a house of worship and engaging in violence is never acceptable. So he fucking just immediately buys it. Not only that, but Karen Bass goes and gives a speech.

Where? Museum of Tolerance. She does? Aaron Bass, she does. She does a quick speech at the Museum of Tolerance to let people know that this was unacceptable. The violence that happened in the Pico Robinson neighborhood, yes. Pico Robertson, you're the fucking mayor. You should know the name.

I'm sorry. Yesterday was abhorrent, and blocking access to a place of worship is absolutely unacceptable. Same language. What we witnessed was anti-Semitism. in the heart of one of our Jewish communities. This violence was designed to stoke fear. It was designed to divide, but hear me loud and clear. It will fail.

So let me play you my favorite part, because right after that, you might be like, oh man, you know, this Karen Bass and Biden, you know, they're doing all this free labor for the Israel lobby. They must fucking love them. This is what happened right outside the Simon Wiesenthal Center. As soon as Karen Bass and her motorcade left, they all just boo her.

Zionists love black people, don't they? It's just wild to me that it's like, is there no part of you that feels like, I don't know. I don't want to use the word cocked because it's been so like fucking like fascist-pilled, but there's no part of you that feels like cucked for like being like, I'm going to do a lot. for the purposes of Israeli propaganda and then I'm going to get booed by fucking all of these that's insane Well AOC fell into the same trap with the NOVA exhibit

She put out a ridiculous tweet condemning the The so-called violence outside of there as anti-Semitic Just absolutely absurd The callousness, dehumanization and targeting Which is woke left-wing speak for violence What is this? What is they should have? I don't know. You know, it was atrocious anti-Semitism, plain and simple. And, of course, some people then posted some beautiful shots of within the Nova Festival. Customer comment cards were, oh, here we go. Yeah, Max, Blumenthal posted this. We know you're not allowed to do it, but it's still worth noting you have nothing to say about the open calls for the genocide of Palestinians and Muslims posted inside the exhibit. You're always quick to condemn anti-Zenists. And here are some of the pictures. Our unity will let us heal the gods. are all amalek they should be wiped off the face of the earth may god avenge their blood treat them as they treat us that is the only language they understand and then yeah some other

shit so she had no she had no condemnatory words for that the the the can basket and food thing kind of reminds me of like it's like Jamal Jammal Bowman yeah you know lost yesterday and I don't I know he is I don't follow it that closely right definitely followed it more, like, when it became, like, a really big A-PAC thing. But, like, I did follow it when there was, like, a big hub of and DSA about supporting him because, you know, I think he had, he had done something, like, about BDS or something, like, something negative about, I genuinely can't remember why. And he was pro Iron Dome. I mean, yeah, some shit. Then he went to Israel and he witnessed apartheid for himself and he got, he got racismed and, and saw what Israel was.

And, yeah, he started. He changed his tone, which is something. Yep. But, but it's funny. Like, he's still like, he was still waffled, right? Like, in some ways. Like, he's still like, you know, it's like the sexual vows, all this kind of stuff. Like, he's still like.

And to his credit, you know, he didn't, he didn't, he, I'm sure that he, I mean, judging by his older writings, I'm sure that he is just trying to be political or whatever, be politic about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it goes to show that, like, actually you can't give them any fucking quarter like that's exactly like it is like I think if Bowman had like I don't think he would have like won his election maybe he would have but I don't think so I mean there was just simply a ton of money in the redistrict 20 million dollars they spent

like 25 I think 25 it's like but uh but give them an inch and they'll take a minion if he had come out like fucking hard for Palestine I think that actually would have helped him rather than trying to walk this line of like acceptable stuff Because the fact is, I think, a lot of people now, you know, I've, I've been sort of just really taken aback by how many random-ass people you see that, like, would not have dared talk or thought or whatever about Palestine, not dared. But, like, it wouldn't have, it would never ever cross their mind at any other point in their life if they even knew what it was. Now are, like, aghast at these images they're seeing at the realization that the. money's funding all of that um i think that like there is actually like real political will uh there like among the part of the masses that that somebody like bowman should have been savvy

enough to tap into yeah and as and as as as as glad as i am to have a politician shouting ceasefire now at a park and the brons i couldn't really enjoy that video of him and aOC you know just just putting on their their street cred personas and and and and and and and and and and and using it to rally people in the last days of a of a race he's going to lose it just felt it felt so cheap too late too little too late and i'm sorry but i completely agree with you if if the deck is stacked money wise if you've got fucking apack spending 25 million dollars your only hope here is the people power position not even from like a moral standpoint but from like a fucking like just a sleazy you know tommy carcetti you know the wire standpoint. I'm nothing but a sleaze ball. I agree with you. You've got to be a in a pro people's way in order to actually win shit. And in this case, you, in this case, you are morally correct. If you, if he had just gone up there and said like, you know, Israel is an apartheid state. Everything they say is lies. And I was wrong. And I was wrong to fund

the things I did. Yes. And, you know, like, listen, because you're going to be out of a job. If you, You might as well fucking go for it. Like I'm not, I'm not trying to play, like, you know, Monday morning quarterback on anything. I don't, like, electoral politics is not really my thing. But I just like, I just don't, I'm sure there's reasons why, you know, it's like, oh, you don't want to do that because then, you know, you can't get Biden or whatever. No, it's because you can't get an MSNBC job. Right.

Yeah. That's what I think it's fired. You're not going to anyways, Bowman. Yeah. They don't like. So now they. They've cost you your job and successfully labeled you an anti-Semite. You're going to get a job at some like random ass nonprofit that's like funded three million

dollars a year by like whatever, open society. And then there's the people who move in the opposite direction. And maybe we can close with this, Matt. There's people who start out at the non-profits doing good work and end up on CNN. Yeah. Like this fellow who had some spicy. takes about the LA

regularly scheduled program. Yeah, yeah, here it is. It's Mr. Jones. The Jewish neighborhoods in L.A. are well known. Nobody is confused where they are. So if you show up there wearing Kaffia, you show up there with your face. No one's confused. You can't

turn a corner in Beverlywood without seeing a bunch of Jews. They're just what they're doing their idle, tidal waddle. You can smell the gufilter fish You see a little In a corner They're spinning a dreidel

It's just You could trust me You want to find the Jews in LA Everybody knows where the Jews are No one's mistaking these fuckers for the Amish It's covered You show up there chanting river to the sea That would be just like a white person

Running up with a Confederate flag in Harlem You're not trying to start a Pause Pause So he's trying to say that it's as blatant A provocation to go into a Jewish neighborhood with a kaffia or chanting from the river to sea

as it would be to go in with a confederate flag into a black neighborhood. Only problem is you're also saying that kaffias are like Confederate flags. Right. Well, they do. As opposed to...

That's what they say. And you're saying that on fucking national television. It's like... Yeah, it's like this disgusting thing that I think they all do. You know, I think in his case, he's, you know, he went... At least he went...

Confederate and not Nazi, which is the usual thing that they do, you know, just another version of just trying to change the Holocaust, you know, compare things to it. Well, they stand strong against world Nazism, unless it's in Ukraine. Right. Yeah. Or, I mean, if it's in Hungary, then it's like, hey, what are you going to do? By the way, they shouldn't let Hungarians be Nazis. Let me tell you this. I agree. Speaking as a Hungarian, I agree with you. I'm just speaking, I'm going to speak it as an empath, right? And I'm putting myself in Adolf Hitler's shoes. Yeah. The Hungarians, fuck that whole shit up for them.

Like, Hungarians, Romanians, the Italians, all these fucking guys, listen, you guys sucked ass at being Nazis. You wasted all those resources just killing a bunch of Jews. I get it hungry held out for a while. Romania immediately surrendered. Italy immediately surrendered. It's like, turns out, no. You, you, they should. Hungarians aren't even fucking white.

They're Mongolians. And I love a Mongolian, right? I rock with Mongolians. But Adolf Hitler did not rock with Mongolians. I just think it's interesting. Well, he wanted to be Genghis Khan. As the son of a person who's, you know, a man who survived the Budapest ghetto as an infant,

I'm kind of glad the Hungarians sucked as much as they did at Nazism. And they were good enough at it to, well, exactly. They didn't get my entire family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're good at doing the... That's the easiest part of Nazism, though. It's just like rounding up people and killing them. That's what I'm saying.

The hard part is holding on. The Romanians did the same thing. And like, they get so... They get so excited that Hitler was like, I recognize that you're a country. That they're like, fuck, we've got to kill it. And then they spend all their resources killing Jews. Yeah.

Losing World War II so badly. Getting rocks. The Romanians, pathetic. Pathetic. truly like you know they've they had one thing going for them in their entire history which is being the home of dracula and they thought that that made them fucking badass like and dracula there's equal chance that dracula could possibly be hungarian right because that little sliver transylvania that's like right there is it you know who else was hungarian who

who scarier than dracula theater herzsel oh for real yeah it's all falling in a place Gosh, too. And Bella Coon, my favorite named of the communist legends. I like... And Peter Lorry, the Hollywood character actor on which cartoon character was based on Peter Lurie? Oh, wait, what, Stimpy? You fat, bloated idiot. That's what I meant.

Wait, wasn't Peter Lurie... Well, anyways. Hold on. He was in the Maltese falcon. I know, no, I know him. he's yeah yeah with the eyes i you know count chocula as well producer adam levin says no it wasn't it wasn't peter lorry it was another hungarian actor who participated actually in the brief communist hungarian state in 1919 no it was the very it was another horror actor from

hungary what's this oh beli lagosi yeah belalogosi was like a commissar some bullshit you know there's some good Good ones and some bad ones, you know. I think we can agree. Bella Legosi, good one. Oh, Peter, Lord. I love you, Daniel Mote, bad one. Yeah.

Can't, yeah. Look, you know, if you're going to make goulash, you got to cut a few beats. Absolutely. And you got to drop a few beats if you're going to play sight trance. Brace. Crazy Jews. Crazy. This has been an epic episode.

It has not disappointed. We had high hopes, and it's more than lived up to them. Thank you so much for taking time to do this. Anything you want to plug before we go, a board game, merch, anything? Well, no, the board game you still get, but I can't remember the way. It's like stormthecapital.com, game.com, I think. No, it's true. Andon.com.

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