Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 42: The Myth Of Normies, with Tadhg Hickey

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

This week Matt and Daniel welcome comedian and Irishman Tadhg Hickey back to the pod to talk about his trip to Iran, Bibi's trip to the US Congress, and so much more.Buy Tadhg's book hereSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting off early with the interruptions, Mr. Maté. I'm trying to work on it, but I think I was so, you know, have you seen that kids in the hall skit where it's like, don't put salt in your eyes, don't put salt. your eyes. Don't put salt in your eyes. And it becomes always put salt in your eyes. And then he puts salt in his eyes. Uh-huh. He's trying to remember his mother's advice. I think that's what happened. Don't interrupt. Don't interrupt. Don't interrupt. Always interrupt. Trying to work on interrupting more. We hear your comments. We read them. We see them. We rage about them.

You know? And then we ignore them. Yeah. We rage about them. We get mad. We get sullen like children and then we ignore them but deep down we are sorry and trying to do our best but that's deep down on the surface filled with hatred that's us me and yeah and if and if there's any relationship in the world that can be defined as superficial it's the relationship between two goofy podcasters and their audience yeah 100%. There's nothing more surface level than this now listen does that mean that we're not parisocial friends? No, we are. Of course we are.

We're best parisocial friends. Like we love the hogs. But, you know, hey, sometimes we're going to interrupt each other and we're going to interrupt the guests. And sometimes, you know, we're going to say something. And it might make you a little mad. But remember, we're always joking and that we're filled with love. As the great Matt Crispin said. No matter what happens on this goddamn podcast, we will not be held accountable.

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Patron piggy. If you like, yeah, if you like the YouTube comments, we're talking about top shell. Slop. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Top shelf slop. It's mostly just, I love you. And then a few, did we, did we say something last episode about, like, old people? Were we ages last episode? I don't remember. Well, I reported that I had been not accosted. What's the positive version of accosted? Malested? No. That is the positive version. Fondled. No, she didn't do that either. She did something. It was just she came up to me and, and excited. I hope she's listening. because I hope she enjoys that I'm going doing this bit about it was in Liverpool and she came up to me and said oh it was a grandmother oh right right right right right I actually had

someone stopped me in London today uh an older person or a younger no a younger person named shout out to Bilal uh you know London Bilal everyone knows him yeah um the one and uh exactly uh and said he loves the podcast and it's just his kind of humor and he shares it with all this friends. But yeah, no, last week we were talking about older people. Yeah, no, I wasn't sure if we said something bad or not just because of the cryptic nature of the comments we got from a bunch of older listeners. And they were nice comments. So I didn't think necessarily that we did ageism, but I was not sure if it was in response to ageism. Point is, is we also have older listeners, which I love. All the, you know, Bubbies and Zadis out there, the nannas and

the pop pop, shout out to you for listening to two strong. young gentlemen who can open up any fucking jar we see strong yet vulnerable I asked my 80 year old father yesterday dad are you listening to our episodes he said yeah most of them I said are you enjoying it he said yeah mostly

really wait did you should try to get him to specify what he doesn't like if he says Matt Lieb then you know I won't feel bad or anything oh I'm sure it's not you I'm sure it's not you you know there might be some humor that he might consider either puerile or abstruse,

which are two of his favorite words of literary criticism. I don't think we do puerile or abstruse. I think we're very serious and our comedy is highbrow, for example. Do not come. Do not come. I want you to come back. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Beebe wins. Bibi wins this one.

I know. I tried, Kamala. I tried. I wanted it. He made the better case. He made the, I mean, come on. He wants us to come. That's what we want, too.

Well, like him, I now have some dirty laundry that I need doing. Oh, absolutely. And we will get into that at some point in the episode. But before we do that, we need to bring in our guest. I'm so excited to have this guest back on the pod. A return guest. A return guest. Last time this guest was on, Daniel, you were not on the episode.

and then you later met up with this hilarious comedian and you know you guys hung out and stuff which I was jealous of because it was real life but ladies and gentlemen everyone else the author of a portrait of the piss artist as a young man it is comedian Tyghihii

hi guys hi hey hey oh you're here we're all here together love that Not making fun of your name. No. Somebody just interrupted me.

Fuck. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, he's going to do that sometimes. Okay, cool. Yeah, cool. That's a name. Yeah, we need a penalty box, like in hockey.

I respect. Like, that's the language I speak. So we need two minutes for interruptions. That's something. I think that's something Adam can build. Adam, you're going to have to build like a penalty box. We'll still be able to hear and see Daniel, but there'll be bars over his screen. That'll be great.

No, you shouldn't be able to hear me. I'll have to write my stupid puns on index cards and hold them up. I mean, that works too. Listen, you know, you can either mute yourself or we'll mute you. Either way, I want to see you behind bars. Yeah, me too. Me too. Are you dogs? It's so great to have you back.

Yeah. And I'm glad I get to be here this time. Yeah, we're great. We're fine. I'm just over, I'm across the Irish Sea from you. I'm in London. Oh, yeah, nice. What are you doing over there?

Consorting with your enemies Not promoting this What is that Look at that lovely piece of Nonfiction paperback Available now Have to say guys, it's a classic It's an absolute classic

Yeah I don't have any jokes It's actually just a great book I don't have any jokes Like I've got some jokes as we go on But none about the book I'll be honest with you I haven't read it yet

But mostly because Oh my God I don't want to like improve Is if that yeah you shouldn't Matt I don't recommend it because it'll it'll only end up giving you compassion for yourself right and then I'll lose my edge and so nature it is my whole fucking thing without self-hatred then I'll like turn into from a go from a self-hating Jew to a self-loving Jew and then I'll be like some I'm Israel high and shit and I don't think we want that it's funny man

like even at the even on the first podcast I really got that sense from you I was like this is a guy who doesn't want to improve. Yeah. It's so lovely. It's so refreshing these days because everyone's trying to, you know, make themselves better. I think fair play to you, man. Yeah. I'm just, I'm built different, you know?

Everyone else is like, oh, you know, I want to have like a closer relationship with my family. I'm like, no, farther. Farther away, more emotional distance. I think it's healthier and it feels good. Are you really tall as well, by the way? Huge. I'm very big. I'm six foot six.

that is bullshit I thought you were a little guy like us you know I can never tell height over the you know the screens and stuff so like when I first met Daniel I was like oh you know I am quite a bit taller than Daniel but then I wanted to not

that's not no offense Daniel but I am a giant that's not like me I'm not talking shit oh I'm quite a bit taller than you I just thought to my myself, you know, I'm very, like, if we played basketball, I could block you sometimes. Is that right? If we played basketball, you'd have a laugh. Yeah.

I don't play basketball. Yeah, we have no business playing basketball, really. No business. But I didn't know, yeah, I didn't know, you guys are your, you're both, what I would call you guys regular size people. I would say I'm about two feet taller than Daniel, but I'm still about. two feet shorter than you though so yeah I'm basically I'm based I'm basically like just below the the rib cage it's just feet yeah yeah yeah

which which doesn't even make me a little like a little person because little people have you know actually like limbs I am literally just an upper torso great writer though great writer yes yeah and you know what I I shouldn't call you guys regular guys, you know, regular size guys because that's the myth of normal. That is so not true. I think you need to read it. My God. I am a jumpalupa. It's true, Adam. Wow. That was great. Well, Tyke, we're very excited to have you on here. So much has happened this week. But I want to start off with something that Daniel alerted me to.

before the podcast that I didn't know. Did you go to Iran? Yeah. Whoa. Oh, fuck sake. I mean, we don't have to talk about it. With that, are we? No, we don't have to talk about it.

Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Iran so far away. So how is Iran? Was that fun? Let's do it. Iran was a bag of laughs.

Yeah. Why did you go to Iran? Well, it's a fun. story. So, um, they were having a festival as part of, uh, there is like a media and arts festival, but it was Gaza themed in Tehran. It's called this sob. S-O-B-H, I think, sob. Is that, okay. That's probably how you pronounce it. You're asking, I don't know how to pronounce. I don't even pronounce the name of this show, right. Yeah. Was it a, was it a fundraiser for Hamas weapons or I hope so. I hope so. Well, well, I hope so, because otherwise I've wasted my

my time. Yeah. Who did I give money to? Yeah, exactly. So they asked me to come over because they gave me actually an award for kind of, and I don't want to, lads, I don't want to brag, but it's a stunning. Yes, you do. Stop the malarkey. Where is it actually? I'll go get it. I'll go get it. But, no, they actually gave me this. They were like, you got to read this book. Because they're all into self-improvement over there, like, you know. Yeah. Farsi is one of the languages it hasn't been translated into. Oh, that's too bad. But, so yeah, so it was like a festival, Gaza themed.

They gave me a little award, and I did some workshops around Palestine and stuff. There was like definitely, well, I can't confirm or deny, but it was definitely like Hamas types and kind of Hezbollah types pottering around the hotel. Sure, sure. So I was a big fan. I was a big fan of the whole thing. One of the most remarkable things, right? so I'm not an idiot.

I know that there's human rights issues as there are human rights issues everywhere. I didn't get invited over by the government and it wasn't like if you come over here and say this, this and this will give you like lots of money. It was nothing. There wasn't like, just do whatever you want.

They asked me to comment on the president's death because on day two, that's when the helicopter crash was when I got there. It was so bizarre. So like the country was kind of, yeah, I ended up going to the funeral and everything. You went to the funeral of the president of Iran? It was basically me and the Supreme Leader

did most of the stages. Do you know how fucking Forrest Gump that footage is going to look like in 40 years? And there's our boy, Tijicke, at the funeral of the president of the Alama Islam Islamic Republic of Iran. A few years later, somebody shot that Iranian president.

I don't know if I'd was supposed to say a few words, but I just came in with them. Wait, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I need to know. Okay. At this point, I'm like, what's real, man? What's real? Sometimes we lay the irony on so thick on here, I'm like, I stood up and I was like, guys.

I'm like, yes, anding myself into an alternate reality. Yeah. But you did go to the funeral. I did go to the funeral. I was one of about maybe three white people on the streets of Tehran. I was treated like a little prince They were so lovely I had one or two people asking me for

Pictures and stuff because I knew some of the sketches Like it's a massive pro-Palestine place But anyway, let me get my little whinge out of the way So I came home, there was like an article in the north of Ireland And there was an article in the south of Ireland And they were both kind of what The north one was really damning And the south one was kind of on the fence

But they were moralising basically And they got an awful lot of moralising online And I just thought it was interesting guys because like I've been to London many times um you know you guys are living in the States if I'd have visited the US for instance at the moment I'm fairly sure nobody would have bat an eyelid and and look at the human rights abuses that are ongoing via the US and Britain right now but because I went to Iran name name name one yeah I can't think of any you can't just no if you're going to put me on the spot I obviously have no idea what

what have we like literally what is US ever done that's wrong fair fair yeah yeah yeah Rocky 5 I think Rocky 5 is a mistake but yeah that's not the government's fault so I'd love your take on Iran though because I didn't like I didn't swan over there going

oh my God yeah I hear they're treating gays and women really bad I gotta get myself over there like it wasn't listen I worked I worked for Al Jazeera for many years and so I I got an assload of people just being like, how could you, you know, like, and I was actually, you know, that's paid for by the government of Qatar. And so like, you know, people could easily

just be like, wow. So, you know, at the end of the day, you're just a shill. I was like, all of our videos were, it was AJ Plus in San Francisco. We were like this online news comedy show. Oh, yeah. And, you know, all of our videos were about, you know, American politics. Like, the idea that, you know, it would be influenced by the politics of Cutter. Like, I was like, I don't actually think I know what the politics of cutter are outside of like, we very much enjoy the soft power of having a news network. The politics of Qatar are right there in the country's name. They are the instructions for what to do to a woman if you find that she has had premarital sex.

That was great. And he didn't even interrupt. It was brilliant. I know. Let the moment pass. And he came in with a really sharp conversation. It was great. I see more of that, you know?

Yeah. I got acupuncture. Didn't wait long enough. I wasn't finished. So yeah, I had no, I'm, you know, I have no, there's no moralizing that I'm doing. It's like it's different for if like the government of Iran, you know, sent you over to do a shake hands meeting, you know, with the. president or whatever although he died you know be weird to shake hands with him

right but it would be totally inappropriate it would be they bring you over to the grave I'll stick to just saying a few nice words at his funeral that's what I'll stick to yeah no yeah but this entire idea that somehow Iran is you know

the greatest threat to all of humanity and whatnot is just so clearly like US imperialism based that you know you can you can look at their you know clear human rights abuses and condemn them

of course you can but the idea that they are somehow more evil than the UK or the United States give me a fucking break and it's funny you should say evil because that's that is the narrative like I mean in the US they still use those black and white terms don't they where it's like or Netanyahu

you feel like he was playing to the galleries with his speech it was like just to let you know again we're the goodies and they're the baddies

it just so happens that the baddies tend to be brown and black all the time just know or or the baddies that's a coincidence or Russian

or Russian or Russian or on the black sea yeah yeah I mean look my family my family has some family friends whose father

languished and died in an Iranian prison under very shady circumstances whose mother went through a terrible ordeal to get out of the country. There's all kinds of problems there. And I think, you know, although I think that the women life freedom movement has been opportunistically used by liberals and neocons in the West,

as these always are, yeah. That doesn't mean there isn't any legitimacy to the grievances and any nobility to the struggle. But the hypocrisy is what you're calling out. and the prerogative of power is to taxonomize. I'm just going to keep using big words in this sentence. I love that. The prerogative of hegemony is to taxonomize moral, you know, gradations.

So true, dude. I just love it because I don't know the smart words. Sorry, Adam just said we get it. You've been to therapy. No, like, you know, you know how you say history is written by the victors? Well, you know, good and evil is written by the hegemonus. Yeah, yeah. And the notion that Russia is uniquely evil or Iran is uniquely evil,

only people who are up to some evil shit, say things like that. Yeah, I'm not sure if I believe in evil, to be honest, anyway. I just think there's human beings and some are more flawed than others and some of those more flawed people are in power. I'll tell you one more thing about the hypocrisy. So I was over there with a filmmaker from the north of Ireland, right? And he had. What does he make?

A film, a film, film maker. We say film, okay. Isn't that like a part of a cell, like the phylum? I love to fight the two-e. I'm sorry. Just like six foot six, like, and I'm just saying, you know, there's two cells. Film, I hardly even know him. Hey, film, I just met him.

Tough neighborhood. Fuck, I meant to do your good. You're good. this because I was making a really sad point and you're going to look back on this and you're going to be mortified. No, so my buddy is a... The only people

who feel regret on this podcast are the guests for coming on. Last week was a case in point. Twenty-five percent of the listeners to at least. Finish your damn film. Finish your damn film. No, I want to hear about the film. My film maker friend from the north of Ireland, Sean Murray, great guy.

He was over with me and he has had either directly or indirectly, several members of his family murdered by the British state, right? So like the British state, not to go into a whole history lesson, but they used to arm and aid and abet loyalist gangs, right? So they, so his family members would have been killed and like right up to number 10, Downing Street would have that information that they would have, they would have signed off on those operations and whatnot.

So are you telling me that that guy is in Iran going, well you know it's so much morally worse than Britain at least you know what I mean like I think for him to go to London is probably I mean this isn't within living memories well it's not like this old colonial thing or like they they killed effectively their own citizens you know what I mean so I just think it's laughable that any country in the West could position themselves as morally superior to any other country and 100% and of course the effect the effect of all this is not to make you hate the regime or the government. The effect, the intended effect is to make you not see the people as people. Exactly. You can no longer think of,

you can no longer think of, to consent to a war, you know. You can no longer think of Palestinian civil society as existing. Everything has to be, you know, toddlers are plotting suicide bombings.

Yes. There are no longer, you know, reasonable human Iranians going about their business and trying to live, their lives, just like all of us living under rulers, they wouldn't, you know, wake up and voluntarily choose if we lived in anything like a world with any agency for populaces. Exactly.

They have to be brainwashed, you know, and it's all projection of what we do to our own, our own people, you know. Yeah. Lovely people, by the way. Really, really nice people. Yeah. And as you say, the sanctions really just hurt ordinary Iranians, like, as opposed, like, the government, whatever, but, yeah.

Well, I remember when I was in. When I was in Cork with you, my goodness, four months ago now, you were still trying to make up your mind about whether you were going to go. And we were having a conversation with an Iranian fellow when you were trying to get. Oh, yeah. You were soliciting his advice. And he wasn't quite, he wasn't quite cottoning to what you were asking. But you were like, listen, am I going to get canceled and blacklisted if I do this?

And I forget what he said, but he was just not quite understanding. But on the whole, are you glad you went? I'm really glad. I'm really glad I went. It was a great experience. But just to say on that evening that you're speaking about Daniel, Daniel is so assertive in a beautiful way. Have you seen this guy in action, Matt?

Like he's, in Ireland, we just, like, I will sit down listening to somebody telling me something, story related, and I'll have no interest in it at all. But I will sit there until one or both of us die. That's the most Irish thing I've ever heard That's what I mean We would much rather die Than be impolite

Like it's unthinkable to be impolite But like to die You know the so-called potato famine They were potatoes right outside Someone was just telling a long boring story We were just being polite about it But Daniel Because someone just kept going on and on

I swear to God man I was thinking about it for weeks afterwards I was like See he's really assertive but he wasn't rude So, like, that's an option. Like, because I cut in the guy, I felt the guy. You interrupted. See, this is, I actually, sometimes you use your powers for good.

In a great way. I interrupted, I interrupted responsibly and intentionally. When I do it on the podcast, it's more ADD, it's more impulsive. It's more, I can't, it's more premature ejaculation. And the word ejaculation can be used to speak about something other than what Netanyahu wants us to do. Certainly. Certainly. But it's a soundboard, Matt, the soundboard, God damn it.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Crazy Jews. Fuck. No, not that one. I want you to come. There we go. Exactly.

Two of them together was incredible. Yeah. I really got to label these buttons, guys. I just keep pressing the wrong one. Yeah, just to say, Danny, you have a big inspiration to me. I've been trying to do it since, man. You know, the guy was giving it all that. He's a lovely, lovely guy.

But at one point, Daniel just turned around to him and said, I have no idea what you're saying right now. You need to let Tyke talk for the natural flow. of the conversation and I fell off my chair I was like I need to die I I guess a guy who was buying us he was buying us dinner like he had some clout in the situation you know he had kind of he had it's not not wasn't a mafioso but he had a kind of right he has this over you like like like like I interrupt this guy is he not going to take the bill absolutely plus he's a by the way really he's Iranian and you know what they're like yeah well I've heard I've heard a thing or two about Iran.

Nothing. They're armed all the bad guys. I'm glad to hear that. And I imagine as you read that book that you held up about six times, you'll find more and more incentive to, you know, to find that help thing. To interrupt people and tell them to please, please let me speak. Maybe I should start doing that. I'm going to start doing that.

Shut up. Shut up, everyone. You can start doing it with me when I interrupt you. You started today. I respect that. You complimented me one time. You accidentally were muted and you were like, wow, Matt, you stopped me from interrupting. And I was like, oh, that was an accident.

Because I was muted. Let's get into, let's get into, you know, Hasbarah. You know, that's where, that's a reason for the season. Speaking of fucking, you know, the Iranian threat. and how the Iranian threat is constantly brought up in D.C., we had our main man himself, Mr. B.B. Netanyahu, came to the United States Congress and gave a speech. Benjamin Maluski.

Benjamin Maluski was here in person for his fourth time addressing the U.S. Congress, And man, was that embarrassing for the United States? I think there's nothing more embarrassing than watching a room full of elected lawmakers give him a standing ovation after every sentence like he was George W. Bush after 9-11. It was completely absurd. I had never seen anything like that. And maybe that's what it was in the previous times. time felt a little bit more like war on terror. Well, the reason is that he was, he wasn't George

Bush after 9-11. He was George Bush after 20 9-11s. That's right. That's right. That's, that's his, that's his mathematics. That's his algebra for what October 7th represented. And then with every passing day, you exponentialize it. And so now by this point, October 7th is about 911,911s. Dang. So you got to up the quotient of standing ovations for that. That's a lot. Look, look what he's survived you know and he's still in power how do he do it way too many 9-11s and that's just way too many inside jobs um that's crazy amount inside jobs too many building sevens uh yeah my brain is my brain is imploding with that with the thought of it wing wing my brain is spontaneously collapsing under its own weight yeah it was it was like it was you know I it was like watching an

anti-Semitic trope in action because you know the one thing that I've always said and I continue to maintain for people who like have the wrong view about um or what I consider to be the wrong view about Israel like Israel israel is a you know client state of the United States US imperialism is why Israel gets to do what it's doing. It's not the other way around. The Israel lobby does have a fuck ton of power and they use it, which is why you have people just like clapping like fucking train seals every time Netanyahu opens his fucking dick sucker.

And it's like just one of those things where people I think want to, they see something like that and they can't help, I think, but go like kind of seems like the Jews are in charge and that's that's not uh what's happening but at the same time there's one thing Israel loves it's to take old anti-Semitic tropes and then try to basically try to convince people that they are real in order to uh maintain their kind of like ominous threatening uh power over people and also to get people to end up saying these like broad anti-Semitic claims and go see see this is why we got to kill all those guys yeah is Israel's basically a refurbished anti-Semitic diorama it's like let's take all the

old stereotypes yeah let's put them into action let's act proud about it yeah then let's cry wolf when anyone points it out and then let's just watch as the legitimate resentment meets up with the irrational, bigoted, scapegoating narratives, and we will have more and more, you know, what's it, the raison d'etat, you know, more cautious belly, like more reason to exist. And also make Jews in the diaspora more and more unsafe in those countries because people, their resentment can go into those, you know, anti-Semitic conspiracy. theories and shit. Which begs the question, Tag, how are you doing wrestling with your inner

anti-Semitic demons? I'm doing fine. It's like, since I met you again, it's all kind of just resolved itself because I was like, I, as we were saying on the night, I thought I hated, you know, Judaism and the Jewish. Is this a bit?

Are you being serious? No, no, no. This is real. But actually, I just hated, I just hated you. So you realize it wasn't generalized I should have waited for it I should have waited for it you should have waited Daniel

it was it was there that was but actually You don't interrupt a bit by saying is it a bit When you said Is this real and I had to say yes My whole life flashed before my eyes You're like oh fuck The slipper career is actually over

It's clipped up, clipped up Clipped up Oh yeah baby But I just want to I just want to make one slightly serious point. I know we're having a laugh or high-fiving and we're belly-flopping. But imagine being a fucking Palestinian listening to that shit. That's all I kept thinking.

I was like, to say it's the final insult is an insult. Yeah. Because the final insult is just, it's ongoing. But to see this fucking mass-murdering liar getting clappy handies like in Congress, he's mass-murdered your family, starving your family to death. I was like, I don't know. I've never respected Rashida to leave more, by the way. Yeah, I think, you know, absolutely.

She showed, as my brother pointed out on Twitter, she showed a hell of a lot more courage. And, you know, it's fine. You want to make a theatrical show by not showing up. But these Democrats should own that they are part of the government that has enabled this maniac. Totally great. And what she did, I think, was, I mean, and given who she is and what that must have been like for her. Yeah. Sorry, keep going. No, that's all I have to say. It's just, you know, it's easy to say, oh, I'm not coming in and then get like lots of clicks on Twitter, but it's, it's a show of defiance to stand there.

100%. Yeah, it was extremely impressive. Especially if you can say, oh, I was otherwise occupied. I had another engagement, you know, most of the no shows weren't even. Yeah. They didn't even perform the function of the theater that they were hoping it would. Yes, yes. But, yeah, so when you say, you know, imagine being a Palestinian listening to.

it. That's why I think the image of Rashida Talib sitting there listening to this fucking horse shit from Netanyahu was so powerful. And she held up a wonderful sign. ...protests that are going on right now outside this building, not that many, but they're there and throughout the city. Well, I have a message for these protesters. When the tyrants of Tehran who hanged gays from claims and murder women for not covering their hair, appraising, promoting, and funding you, you have officially become Iran's useful idiots. Hell, yes. Hell yes to her holding the sign.

Hell yes to her holding the sign. And thank you, Bibi, for the nice little plug for Aaron and Katie's podcast. That's right. Useful idiots. Yeah. No, I mean, it was like, you know, I think Iran was just the recurring theme throughout this thing. And this is just one of the things that Israel has been trying to do for so long now, which is get us, oh, go ahead. Can't help but feel that was a pop at me.

Oh, 100%. Yeah. Well, listen. You think Bibi doesn't know. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. Bibi doesn't know that. You don't think that's egocentric of me.

Well, when he said the tyrants of Tehran, it's pretty often, it's often, it's awful close to the Tyg. It's the Tiggrance. The Thai rants. The Thai rants. That's what my family thought is earlier. From Tehran. You should do a live comedy album there and call it Taigran.

There's something there. I'd like to redo it. Not all my puns are as good as Daniel's puns. Sometimes I try puns. Sometimes I try. I like Ty Grants. But also I have another, I put Gilbert and Sullivan on my docket a few weeks ago, right?

I am the perfect model of the modern or the Sabra Major General, who's like 15 years ago. We should also do a remake of the Pirates of Penn Zanz, the tyrants of Tehran. Oh, yeah. Well, I actually don't know that one. Is that...

I don't know all your musical theater references. You don't know my musical theater references? You don't know my rap. And that's why I just stick to Ghostbusters and The Wire. He doesn't read you either. He doesn't read your book either. You didn't read my book? I wrote this book called MindCom.

Holy shit. Well, no, not that one. It's called My Struggle. It was about me doing drugs when I was a kid. I didn't know that in German that was my conf and so now I have to retitle it because apparently in German is not selling well. Is it self-published?

Well, yeah, I mean, you know. Of course. How did you guys thought of doing, hasn't the book company done some promo for your, didn't you have a big anniversary recently? Yeah, that's right, 15 years, 15 years clean and sober. Oh my God. Yeah.

I didn't know that. Wow. I'm clean, I'm sober, dog. Yeah, so I have to feel every ounce of my emotions. Next year. I'm going to be 10 years clean and sober. Oh, fantastic. Yeah, man.

Yeah, I didn't know that we had that in common. Yeah, wow. Look at that. A couple of sober boys. Sobering. Tomorrow, I'm going to be 48 hours clean and soap. I don't drink that much, actually. I have other vices.

Nice one, Daniel. Yeah. I'm the only, I'm the only. We call you Normie. We call you Norma. I'm an unrecognomies. Is that with an imprint? Muggles?

Yeah. Muggles, because we drink from mugs. That's right. yeah we call you muggles and why did you stop drinking and taking drugs matt oh uh because it was bad for me and because uh someone snitched uh on me to my parents and then i felt bad and then i uh started going the 12th star i wish it was a good story man i wish it was something cool like i just uh you know i mean literally me hitting bottom is It's hilarious. Me hitting bottom is a very lame story in which I um is I had I had

dilauded um I was like really into dilauded by then I was an opiate addict and then uh you know my friends uh you know found out I was still using uh opiates they were trying to stop me from using opiates and then they told my family and then I moved back to Los Angeles and then And I wanted to use the last of the dilaudid I had. And but there was, I was an IV drug user and there wasn't a needle or a rig, as we call it. Oh, wow. So I looked everywhere and I found a turkey baster. And so I put a turkey baster of dilaudet up my butt.

And that was me literally hitting bottom. Oh, wow. That is, that is bottom. That is bottom. that's literally hitting bottom you guys yeah so the point is it was all built in it was all built into you to your joke yeah I poked bottom okay bottom because I was I was gonna say like you must have the most slow clap reactions in meetings when you tell the story of how you hit bottom if it's just your parents being like we're very disappointed and you could you stop doing

dilat in the house but now that you have the poking bottom turkey baster story you must have no claps at all just just I just have usually just everyone's jaw is wide open going what the fuck and I'm just like I don't like swallowing pills they make me gag so I they have to either go in the vein or up the butt okay stevie nix had to hire someone to blow cocaine up her asshole at a certain point because her her whatever that's called septum had been oh yeah yeah yeah i like that there's there's a good portion of the listenership of this podcast who uh have listened to my other ones so they know these stories. They know me from the

broadcast. They know me from pod yourself. But there's also a now much larger portion of podcast listeners who just are radicalized on Palestine, who are now like, what the fuck have I been listening to for the last four months?

This guy's putting dilated in his asshole and fucking clapping. Like this guy, what the fuck? Anyways, the point is, I'm clean and sober now, guys. That's great. man. Thanks. Thanks so much. What about you? What is your bottom? Yeah, we used to put pills up our bum-bums as well. Like you used to, you guys do that like ecstasy tablets. Oh. Yeah. Like they go

into your bloodstream so you come up much quicker. But we had these real jagged ones before they were like, we just bought them off a guy on the side of the street and they were kind of really jagged. And I was kind of out of my mind. So when I was placing them up my bum bum, um, they kind of tore my bum bum so yeah so he kind of had a previsor. Is that what the Alanis album is named after? Is that what the whole album is about? Daggy little pills about when she she puts an X-D in her bum-bum. You ought to know. You ought to know. That would add a whole extra verse to ironic. Adam just sent me a text. Can we get to a segment soon? Sure. Free, free, free Palestine. Speaking of which, yeah, so just, uh, just, uh,

You know, hey, speaking of... Bottoms up. Bottom's up. Speaking of, you know, references that you do, Daniel, that I sometimes don't get. I want to get into a story related to this incredibly embarrassing display of, I don't know, what to say other than cuckholdiness of the United States Congress clapping for everything a literal genocidal war criminal has to say. A general style of war criminal who holds them in utter content. Absolutely open content. Which is so clear, like, yeah.

I think nothing displays that more than this repeating story that happens over and over during, every time there's a visit. There's been this, you know, the Israelis have vehemently denied the story, but apparently, Netanyahu brings his dirty laundry to Washington literally. There are multiple stories about this. The biggest one being of course in the Washington Post

but this has been a rumor for years in Washington that the Netanyahu's take advantage of the fact that if you are visiting, you know, dignitary or diplomat or world leader they'll do your laundry

but it's supposed to be like well the clothes that you wear when you're there they'll clean them for you and then you can go back home and not have a bunch of dirty clothes they literally bring more laundry than they have so let me read from the washington post uh Israeli officials denied that Netanyahu overuses his American host's laundry service calling the allegations absurd but they acknowledge that he has been the target of laundry related accusations in the past In 2016, Netanyahu sued his own office and Israel's Attorney General in effort to prevent the release of his laundry bills under the country's Freedom of Information Act. The judge cited with Netanyahu and the details of his laundry bills remain secret pending an appeal to the Supreme Court, which, of course, he is, he is trying to fabric softener us.

He is trying to, you know, destroy the Supreme Court. That's probably one of the reasons why. So over the years, the Israeli leader has developed a reputation among the staff at the U.S. President's guesthouse for bringing special cargo on his trips to Washington, bags and suitcases full of dirty laundry. According to U.S. officials familiar with the matter. The clothes are clean for the prime minister free of charge by the U.S. staff, a perk available to all foreign leaders, but sparingly taken advantage of, given the short state. of busy heads of state. The Netanyahus are the only ones who bring actual suitcases

of dirty laundry for us to clean, said one U.S. official. After multiple trips, it became clear this was intentional. An incredible, an incredible, fuck you. Like, that is, like, if you're trying to flex nuts

on the U.S. public and the U.S. Congress about the fact that you can easily take advantage of taxpayer money, I mean, what other symbol is there than doing that? It's weird to say this about somebody that I absolutely hate, but it's actually quite, it's good, it's a good play.

It is a good play. It's quite skillful or something. It's just malevolently brilliant. I know. As like a person who also, like, runs on spite, I like him like, ooh, that was a good one, you know. I like spite. Yeah, you know, I mean, for, it's,

So it's definitely a good way of, you know, trying to show people that you're, you know, you mean. You don't want to improve. That you don't want to improve. Yeah. And also it also it's miserly. It's stingy. It's, uh, what can you say? He's sort of, uh, well, one might say in certain circles that he's, well, should we, but.

Yeah. Okay. Turkey based her up the ass boy. Let me speak. He's jewing the American people. God damn it. Oh, lovely. Now, I just shout out to all the other Gen X's and boomers listening to this,

who like me now have the song Dirty Laundry by Eagles member Don Henley in their heads. Oh, yeah. About politicians and, you know, kick them when they're up, kick them when they're down. Sure. It's about the media. No, yeah. I mean, listen, I don't know that song. I'm only...

Of course you don't. Of course you don't. I'm only familiar with current music. And because of that, that is not the song that I would have chosen. Matt Lieb is Brad. Yes, I am Brad. And so I have just a little song for that that I'm going to play just a little for people who might be a fan of Kendrick Lamar. Oh, hey.

And... Brilliant. The song Love. Here we go. Reports say he got his dirty laundry cleaned at the expense of another country and that the Israeli Prime Minister and his wife carry bags of dirty clothes on state visits just so that they can be dry clean for free. I want to arm the Jewish state

I want to arm the Jewish state I want to arm the Jewish state I'm giving you bombs and planes and doing your And I'm helping you steal more land while doing your Lodry Keep it a hundred died rather not fuck with the Israel Gosh, the job, don't God, you got nothing, hey. You need something, hey.

Need PR spin, has barrage shit. I do your time story. I've been a lie for you. Only one lie, I'm kidding. We homies for life, yeah, homies for our life, yeah, cause on your lies for you. Do your dry cleaning. Take our tax money. All right.

Wander all your claims. I know what they need. Already I'm 10 forever, my friend. On Israel side, so go genocide, the palisthenia. All right. So, yeah, you know, hey, listen. Okay, all I can say about that is capital letters, all caps, damn, period. Nice.

That was extraordinary. Brilliant. And it just, I feel like you're throwing the ball back over to me because I did the remix and that went over great, but this is fucking a cut above. I love that song I love that album Kendrick is repping the West Coast I'm so I'm so glad

because there was part of me though I was like I wonder if no one will know this song Oh my God It'll just be for like five people who are just like This is great

And then everyone else just going like Oh no It seems like a fun song It's a deep cut It was like the third single off damn Or something like that It's so good I'm stunned

It was actually really beautiful. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You're the auto tune. A lot of auto tune. A lot of auto tune. I listen, I do not have a great singing voice. It's okay.

I'm not tone deaf. I just can't physically hit the notes I want to hit. All I would say is I have a stunning singing voice. That's all I want to say. Just for future stuff, I just want to throw out there. I actually think you do, though, right? You actually do. I could tell because you sung a little bit.

of Alanis Morissette just a second ago. And I was like, wait, someone just hit those notes perfectly. We should do a musical. Didn't I, wasn't I at that, weren't we at an Irish pub together in Cork, which it's not surprising that it was an Irish pub? Yeah. It's not a load. That'd be weird if it wasn't.

It's just called the pub. And there was songs, and I think I did a couple of songs. Yeah. And you did one. Did you sing the parting glass? Or was that someone else? Yeah, I was like, yeah, it was a parting glass. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. Yeah. What a great song. We should do a musical, guys. We should do a musical. I'd like to make a comment as well on the fact that this has been a whimsical, ridiculous, weird kind of people shoving stuff up their ass type podcast. Yeah, yeah. But would it be fair to say though?

So far. So far. Would it be fair to say that there's healing and that too, that like we've all lost. I certainly put my hand up. I've lost my mind completely like months ago in the. this whole horror. So to have a laugh is kind of like a necessity. Yeah.

Otherwise I feel like I'm going to. This is what we keep hearing from people. Like I fully expect that suddenly some like we're going to get substantial amounts of comments or even one being like, guys, can you fucking honor the dead and suffering, please, with a little decorum and dignity? But what we keep hearing from people who you might expect that from is the irreverence, the absurdity is homeopathic. It's medicinal. And as long as that's the case for people, then we don't have to do the other thing that would be impossible for us to do. The rest of the day is depressing. Come on. Yeah. That's right. You can only you can only take so much utter fucking evil and depravity. Of course, you know, if you believe in evil, which I, you know, whether or not you call it evil, you can only take so much utter fucking evil and depravity. Of course, you know, whether or not you call it evil, you can only take so. so much child murder for your body just physically craves either a Kendrick Lamar parody of love about BB cleaning his laundry or a story about putting the lotted in your asshole.

Now, what was the, just as a fellow songwriter, what was the thing that sparked in your mind, oh, that would be a good, was it the laundry? Was it when you heard that word and you were like, what song is that? No, me. sort of reverse engine it was that it was also you know it was just in a long car ride up to san francisco and i just started playing songs i was like oh what if this song was about laundry and then my car died speaking of my maybe i'll maybe i'll maybe i'll do a they not like us i mean hey hey an israeli version of they not like us we're passing the ball back and forth

uh but speaking of the fact that my my car literally did die um on the way up to do those shows in San Francisco. By the way, badass barra fans who came out to those shows. Thank you so much. It was great meeting you. But my car literally broke down and died on the way up there. It's still up there. And so because of that, it's time. It's time for a quick commercial break where you listen to these ads, you know, buy all of the good products that they're, you know, whatever there's hawking. I'm sure it's rules. So buy those products, buy those services, subscribe to that. streaming thing uh and then also yeah join the patreon also uh we're going to get a car tier going uh if you just join for a thousand dollars a month for three years uh then thank you use use promo

based use promo code based based this is a based podcast it's a very base podcast but not in the way you think all right everyone stick around we'll be right back anyone need to take a shit anyone needs to take a piss we're back Daniel are we back Daniel

hi we're back baby talking with Tyg Hickey who um is It's a hilarious comedian, a run-backed hilarious comedian. Just, you know, someone who, you know, all of the Ayatollahs are just raving about these days. Are there lots of Ayatollah?

Is there one guy or like a group of guys? I don't actually know. Hundreds of thousands. Oh, damn. Yeah, that I saw, but I'd say there's lots more. Before we get into this next story, I have one more thing. I wanted to show people. Well, let's just show you.

Listeners of the show have already seen this and heard this. But there was an incredibly racist meme that we talked about on the podcast a few episodes ago. Well, yes. That showed different types of, you know, anti-Zionists. And one of them was Irish. One of them was you type. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And here it is. Uncanny. That look at you. the Irish we were occupiers we were occupied to that's why we support Palestine has no other real arguments and I just wanted your thought on on that you know first of all is that an accurate representation of what you look like and second of all yeah don't you think you're being a little hard on Israel because the only thing that you have to relate to them is you were also

under a brutal occupation by Western power as I said to you at the time I think that cartoon is uncannily like me 100%. It looks a lot like me, and I was a fat kid. It looks like me in school. And I used to wear tricolor t-shirts as well, actually. But yeah,

like I fair play to them. I think they're dead right, yeah. What did they say? They say that your whole argument is we were once occupied too. That's why we support Palestine, but you have no other real arguments other than that. Your whole argument is human empathy and solidarity,

based on that. Yeah. I think that's true. Your whole argument is the golden rule. We're just so determined to be polite as well as I was saying that like we don't want to hit them on. You wouldn't want to try to make some other argument. No, no, no, no. That would be impolite.

So we just say, look, we were occupied too, guys. You know? We're not trying to gang up on you. You know, we're not trying to write a bunch of different reasons. So we're just doing one and then just putting it out there. Well, maybe that would be effective for the global Palestine Solidary to struggle. if each country or each constituent of Palestine's, chose one argument to go with.

You know, I think sometimes American activists try to do too much. It's genocide and it's apartheid and it's white supremacy and it's Jewish supremacy and imperialism. Make up your mind. Pick one. Just pick a talking point and we'll divvy it up. There's enough to go around. Right.

And we'll all let each other have the one thing. And we can't all just talk about like decolonialization. It's just like, come on, you know, someone's got to just, you know, one of them just got to be like, oh, I just hate Jews, you know what I mean? Exactly. I was going to say. That way we would, we would, we would cordon off the end, the pure rank anti-Semitism, which would both make it more effective, but also the rest of us wouldn't be contaminated by it. Exactly. Exactly. The anti-Semites would be seen and heard, but not seen and heard too much. Right. Exactly. Love it. And we, like, we can just do the, oh, we were occupied before as well. Just just kind of cuty kind of empathy. We'll do that. Like, really polite. stuff yeah yeah it's really you know it's just such an adorable argument i mean that's that's all you have like oh we were also occupied like it's so cute what else you got the irish uh we were occupied too we were occupied yeah yeah yeah come on that that guy aiden or adean who if you say his name right

it sounds like an irish name he's been on a roll since we posted that he's really been he's been he's been posting some real i love him he's just racist like there's like certain zionist posters who are like very much trying to live in that in-between space where they're not they're like i'm a liberal western progressive pro-democracy guy yeah and so i'm going to find ways in which to uh condemn the entire not just Palestinian people but the entire Arab people as problematic and then there's aiden who's just like people with more melon and are actually more violent and you're just like what the fuck he just racist shit well and my favorite one of his was someone was talking about the golan right we're not probably going to we should talk about maybe

next episode what happened up there in the golan and who done it and all and and and who the droos are blaming and all that shit's interesting um And it'll have massive consequences. But someone was posting about basically how the Golan Heights is illegally occupied by Israel, which is de facto true. Yeah. I guess you could say annexed, but it's, you know, six of one, half dozen of the other. Yeah. And he posted, fuck you and your labels.

To which I said, my prerogative, but make it settler colonial. Wow. I won't they just let us occupy. Like, yeah, I love the like, you know, why do we got to put labels on? He sounds like a guy who just really doesn't want to be in a relationship with, you know, like international law. It's like, why do we have to put labels on this? I love the way you're reducing imperialism, labels, like.

Why do you have to pull it in the USA, like, you know, it's such a label? Why you got to call it apartheid or like colonialism, like, Isn't it just bros just chilling out, having a kicker? All they want to do is vibe. They're just trying to vibe. Why do you have to put words on things? Yeah. As soon as you put words.

Isn't it great that how Zionists get metaphysical and non-dual at exactly the moment when you're pointing out that they're actually like breaking international law? Like all of a sudden, well, what is law anyway? Right. Yes. As soon as you're certain. Like consensus. Like reality is just a series of unspoken.

agreements based on perceptual paradigms. Yes, exactly. I mean, it's literally just... They all become Eckhart Tolly in The Crunch. Right. Yeah. The mind wants to come in and say, oh, this is, well, this is genocide. I don't like that.

Oh, the power of now, there it is. He got the book. We did not prepare that type. That is my choice. That was my choice. That was your choice. You went to get another book and you... That is incredible.

Redible. You guys are, you guys have like some sort of brain connection like Navi style. That's wild. And it's like I have a really good selection of books like that's it's unusual. You know, I had to pluck that out of the the recesses of my of my library like you. Yeah, out of the all the different copies of Tom Clancy you have. I've only read the Scottish, I've only read the Scottish translation of that book, the power of no, no. The power of no. At least it's not interrupting. That's. That's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. That's. That's what I say. Yeah, he didn't interrupt, so. But yeah, no, it is, it is just hilarious watching. Yeah, everyone get existential and just really philosophical as soon as you say what the name of a crime is. If you ever want to see the Zionistas expose their racism, just head over to Twitter and watch any interactions between Indian loving pages

and Zionists, where they're feeling. effectively saying you filthy monsters we don't want anything to do with you guys it's a one way relationship for sure it is it is wild it's like there's and there's just so there's so much of that too where you're just like how like to not hold resentment over the fact that you're going to like carry water for people who are like I think you're animals and you're just like well I think you have a right to exist I love you it's it's crazy um but yeah The, you know, these Zionists counts like to do a lot of carrying water

for, obviously, for the state of Israel. And what are the things? They like doing other, they like doing other things to water in the Gaza Strip. Yeah, like mostly claiming it and, you know. No, I'm talking about blowing up the Canada well. The, I don't know if you saw this, but some Israeli soldier posted

a video of them destroying this water treatment plant that Rachel Corey spent much of the last year of her life trying to protect. That's right. And they just blew the fucking thing up at a time when polio virus is showing up in the water supply. It's an active, I think Ryan Grimm actually did a report on this or drop site. Jeremy and Ryan's new website.

Shout out to them. New website. It's absolutely just a jaw-dropping new low in terms of war criminal depravity. Yeah. Yeah. And then he deleted the post and made his account private and all that shit. Yeah. Of course.

watching like the, you know, there's always this like, I would call a steady torrent of damning video that has been taken by literal Israeli soldiers and, you know, civil servants and whatnot citizens of them doing, you know, something atrocious. And then you have, of course, the Zionists denying every aspect of it. And one of the big things that has been constantly denied has been this story of the in Israel in one of the prisons specifically that I can't pronounce. Is that how you pronounce it? I think so. It's in the negative.

There was someone who is being tortured by having things inserted in their butt, which, you know, I'm now realizing having. earlier talked about putting a turkey baser of dilatid in my ass, this now feels more insensitive than I meant it to, but I don't think I put those things together until it feels. It feels pretty sensitive to me. You are the Irish of that. I am the Irish of that. I don't know. I'm not going to let you get solemn about this. I'm sorry. This is about Asberra podcast. That's right. But so. It's terrible. It's fucking terrible. It's one of those things that I have seen them people, you know, even after the reports came out, and I think it was, Haaretz did a report on this. And you've seen it, especially in Israeli media. It's been all over Israeli media and more of their, like, liberal media, less of their, like, less government mouthpiece medias. And it's something that's been constantly denied to the point at which, like, you know, it's hard to believe anything of what's coming out from people, especially online. You just have no idea who's, like, you know, making up an insane story and who's telling the truth. All I know is you see

enough, like, actual videos of Israeli soldiers and, you know, Israeli police doing insanely racist and horrific and brutal acts that you just start to kind of believe anything. Yeah. And this is one of those. And the New York Times itself had a report on a different prison where there was that's right. Reports and I think admissions of making inmates. you know basically impaling or it's making inmates sit on sharp things and hot things and you know sodomizing sexually torturing prisoners so and sexual torture is well known in the shin bed and idea yes and uh so daniel you sent me this video recently from the account um uh i really hate you who is uh i believe an israeli um who reports on uh all things israeli and israeli media and

does fantastic work. Excellent, excellent follow. Yeah, great, great follow. And this is a video of the, in this clip, we see Lekud member of the Knesset, Hanak, Milwitsky, announcing a voting strike in response to the attempts to arrest the rapist soldiers, the ones the aforementioned ones who were literally, my sweet lord and just to be clear there there were videos that also came out earlier today of police arriving to interrogate or arrest those soldiers and the soldiers are pushing and shoving

there's a soldier being like fuck you no one's arresting me i gave my life by this country we're doing this for you there's mks there's right wing politicians trying to get between the police and the settlers sorry and the soldiers basically saying no one's arresting our boys yeah it's total chaos it's a country gone absolutely bananas from the inside and it's funny watching this video at first i wasn't i wasn't sure what i was seeing in terms of what the what this guy was saying um i thought he was condemning the actions of the um you know prison guards or soldiers or whatnot um uh the soldiers who were doing the actual sexually assaulting you know uh prisoner with you know anally and that quickly turned out to be not the case turned out he was

saying the opposite and here you're going to read along here yeah uh i don't know if you know but there's an incident right now in that place where the military police came to arrest soldiers who were guarding the nookba terrorists in that place the nookba terrorist detention center the military police came there to arrest some of the soldiers there, probably because of some allegations regarding the treatment of Nukba terrorists. Some allegations. And there is an incident of soldiers refusing to leave. I think we need to give a personal example here.

I say now, and I call on all other coalition members, I'm getting up and I'm leaving, and I'm not going to vote on anything anymore until this story and this insanity isn't over. And I'm really asking. my coalition friends will do well if they do the same as I do. We cannot continue as usual. To insert a stick into a person's rectum, is that legitimate? That's what someone asks.

So someone else is asking, yeah. Yes. Shut up. Yes. If he is a Nukpa, everything is legitimate to do. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything.

You know what these people did? Basta. Never mind. So, I think that was an Arab member of Knesset asking him that question and I love his response he's like is it legitimate to stick something up a person's rectum the response he gets is shut up if he's a member of Nukpa it's not a term I've ever heard

everything is legitimate to do and the question is just okay okay that's all I wanted to know yeah my gosh yeah it's it's absolutely insane because you see, you know, it's seeing all of our lawmakers standing up and clapping for the man who is representing not just this like country in general, but this specific ideology and far right party. And it's not even the furthest right party in Israel. You know, it's just insane when they are openly saying, why are you trying to arrest our soldiers for literally

raping our prisoners and it's legitimate to do so. I mean I just we're not crazy no whenever I talk to anyone who's just like

oh man I don't know you know what's going on there I'm just like you're right everything you're thinking but you're afraid to say you're right they are psychopaths we're not crazy I'm playing the sting I'm not crazy crazy crazy crazy we're not crazy guys I listen to your Greg Stoker

yeah yeah great guy really great guy so impressive but you know he was making because I was wondering you know and this I think this really illustrates it I was wondering are all empires in these types of wars are they all the same to go back to the evil thing like were the British this bad

are the Americans this bad but he was kind of making the point that they're not like that this is a new level of evil kind of wasn't he wasn't he kind of saying that the americans either either either either either things Israelis have done either either either either either either either either either or psychopathy if you want to make it more logical and less moral i mean i think they're it makes them capable of acts of outlandish almost campy evil yeah it's it's it's it's but it's both the the the moral depravity of i mean i don't think you can compare evil is this more evil than dropping Agent Orange on jungles full of, you know, and killing millions of

Vietnamese people. I don't know. But this is more outlandishly, cartoonishly, clownishly, yeah, braggadociously. I mean, we've never seen anything like this, which is a country having an absolute meltdown in public. And in some ways, it makes it easier for people like us to do what we're, in fact, it totally does. You don't have podcasts like this about.

about what, you know, Syria is doing or Russia is doing or what America does. There's something extra ridiculous. And then on top of that, you have the layer of the self-justification, the bad Hasbara. I'm glad that you started the episode, Matt, with that extra clip of those Israelis saying we need to have less bad Hasbara and more good Hasbara. I don't think there's ever been this level. I agree, but I think there's never been this level of depravity or psychopathy, whichever way you want to look at it, that. that's so evidence based that's being live streamed where I think that's the difference isn't it so like it's so utterly you know transparent that I don't think we've ever had that before obviously because of

technology and just the time we're living in but it feels like they just do not care like they just do not care I think it's that I think it's that we're seeing it live stream because I mean you know the the depravity of the American colonists against you know the Native American population was, you know. Not live streamed. Yeah, not live streamed. And you can guarantee it was insane. And you can guarantee that at some point there was a public hearing where some, you know, conscientious colonists said, well, are you saying that it's legitimate to, you know, rape a squaw and give her family smallpox?

And the person is saying, until they accept Jesus Christ, anything's legitimate. I mean, yeah. Yes. Yeah, they were like, yeah. We also like slavery, you know. We think everything's legitimate if we don't consider them people. But actually, the closest down analogy I can think of for Israel is the Jim Crow and slavery South.

100%. 100%. Confederate and campy and over the top, emotional and self-pitying and sentimental about slavers. It's that kind of rotted to the core culture. So it's not just an empire doing things over there, but it's right here on our home soil in a contained area with a kind of everyone's against us. And, you know, blood and soil, this is our way of life.

Yes. Yeah, John Mearsheimer makes a similar point. Yeah, I think that's a really strong analogy. Yeah. And I think he said it before you as well, like, I think. Yeah. But it's a personalized hatred, which is, which is, I think what is different. Thanks for that, Tyke.

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I like to... Discosity. Yeah. That's what Adam says. Shout out to producer Adam Levin, as always. He's doing a great job. He's very witty. He's doing a great.

He's a big fan. We learned all our tricks from him in terms of one-liners. Just to finish what I was going to say about. Sorry, sorry. No, no, you don't have to be sorry. Only Daniel has to be sorry. Okay. No, but just, you know, in terms of the difference.

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Um, no, just to finish what I was saying is, I think like the, that's a perfect analogy talking about Jim Crow South because of the personalized level of hatred and dehumanization and also living with the people. We don't live with Iraqis. Uh, like we were not, we're not a neighbor with Iraq. So when we go over there, uh, and we're dropping, you know, a thousand pound bombs or whatnot and, uh, and killing a million civilians, we're doing it in a cold, depersonalized way. in which like, you know, the hatred of the other is present, but there is, it's a different way in which we are, you know, racist against. The way the America's been anti-Black historically. And that type of hatred is a personal and an incredibly racist and white supremacist way. And I think it's similar. I think the other reason that this feels unique is because, in doing these live stream acts of savagery essentially i mean what else can you call it uh they then go on

tv and you know different media outlets and in front of congress and talk about the savagery of the enemy where so it's not just that they're live streaming a genocide it's that they're gaslighting you about it and that's what makes you feel fucking insane yes yes That's the part of it that feels, I think, unique to everyone. That's bang on. I think there's a point adjacent to that as well because people here are often comparing the situation to the north of Ireland. And like one thing that's very clearly different is that the way the Israelis are behaving

right now, in my opinion, it's very clear that they don't want anything approaching a peace settlement. Like, I mean, if you read the history, they've probably never really wanted that anyway. But it's so clear that when they do the things that they're doing right now, they're basically saying to the Palestinian population, like, no, you know, you couldn't possibly sit down and talk peace with me after I've done that. You know what I mean? Whereas in the north, there was always, well, first of all, there was more parity between the two sides anyway. But there was always a sense that, like, if you got these people to sit down, that there would be a possibility of talks. And that, as that was, you know, turned out to be the case. No, it feels like you've never been further away. from peace talks ever like in the in the whole history of the conflict and the barbarity of the acts is making sure that's the case yeah you know which is i think why it's uh you know appropriate to make jim crow south and slavery and america's history with anti blackness uh as the analogy because that is also what slavers and uh white men and in general thought in the united

States like how can we ever live together we need to have a plan before we end slavery and that plan's got to be like first we got to like move them all to Africa or we got to do something because how are we just going to all both be citizens after everything I've done to this family yes yes yes before I take my boot off your neck you must consent to have your arms amputated so you don't have to attack me with promise you won't attack me like yeah yeah Yeah. And I think, you know, Israel is constantly put themselves in this position in which any time there could have been progress, they just go back into that racist state of fear in which they are like, no, we can't ever be safe until we do, until we finish the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. and then beyond that who knows because once you're once you do that it's like well also all of our neighbors need to be ethnically cleansed too you know in Syria yeah so it's really you know

it's a tough tough position to uh to be in if you are it's a tricky one it's a tricky one for a regular israeli uh with a normal brain uh like uh you know i at i really hate you who has to there and watch all of Israeli society constantly crumbling and getting worse. And the Israelis or Israeli citizens or people who live, you know, Hebrew Canaanites or whatever they want to call themselves that I, who are in my life, who are not Zionists, who have family there, some of whom live there, some of them don't, very close to some of them. They're well aware that the only place, the only time or the, the necessary condition for us to get to the that moment of quote unquote peace talk as you're saying tie if peace talks is going to mean anything we're

not talking about some kind of oslo process of course yeah uh you know sort of all process no peace as yeah yeah what's going to be required it's that parity you're talking about we do parody on this show but we need parity in uh in in in the political situation and the only way that's going to be done is if israel's knocked down several pegs and yeah the other the other side has some leverage. And then you start contending with the very gutting realization that it could take a bloodbath to get to that point. Of course. That what's happening up in the north, you know, the fact that Hezbollah has their sights on the ammonia plants in Tel Aviv, which could unleash holy hell. Yes. Chemical misery. You know, the fact that the Houthi drone was able to penetrate,

all these things on the one hand horror of horrors for the citizens of a you know of anywhere of a country of anywhere yeah at the same time possible breakthrough in terms of the you know and this is where game theory and war you start thinking like a world war one or world war two historian playing one of these board games where you're you know the balancing the power and all this and i hate thinking that way i've always thought that was a deeply inhumane way to think but in terms of living it in real time. How else, I mean, Norman Fickleston's been saying for years that it's going to take a colossal defeat for Israel to stop what it's doing. And now I'm rooting for that. Kind of I am. And at the same time, but not with any glee. No. And hoping to God there's another way. Right. That's why, yeah,

the only other way I can think of is just like complete isolation, you know. Yeah. Yeah. quarantine yeah seriously like you know south africa style economic isolation like yeah yeah i can't see any other way uh you know in which i'm not hoping for you know i just i don't want a blood bath you know and i it's like it's an insane it's an insane position for a people for a government to put their own people in where it's like you know this is this is it and uh That's why, you know, I blame the United States as being not just complicit, but being like a primary player, primary actor in what will be the future killing of a lot of Jewish people and Palestinian people. Those clapping seals in Congress.

Yes. Yeah, that's a legacy. And the Democrats who performatively didn't show up, but don't do a goddamn shit thing to stop it at other times. are primarily responsible. Yes. Because they're the ones that keep the faucet on. Yes.

Keep the opiates, keep the dilaudid, going up the turkey baster, right into the asshole of the Knesset. Oh, lovely. Lovely circularity to that. Well-rounded. Well-rounded.

You know, we're a well-rounded podcast. Yeah. it is uh you know but you see israeli society completely collapsing in the most insane like kind of hilarious way because they're just so out of touch with the rest of the world that they can't help turning people into radicals for Palestine uh and i think the best example of that is recently, so the Olympics is happening. And recently there was, I assume this was a football match between Molly and, is it Molly? Molly and Israel. Yeah, in Israel. And I'm sorry, I didn't, I didn't, I'm like, why is he, is he making another drug joke? Why is Molly playing?

Exactly. If it's Israel, it's Molly. Thank you, Adam. Yeah. So, a jagged, a jagged, a Jagged pill of Mali was crammed way up into Israel's ass. Apologies to the proud African nation of Mali. Yes, apologies. Yes. And someone was giving an interview and then all of a sudden a random fan of Israel shows up and you just have to see this video. If you haven't, it's fantastic. Here it is.

What do you think about the game? I thought it was a good game. I thought in the beginning Israel was better, but no, Mali is getting, it's destroying them, I think. Israel is not bad. Israel is not bad. But I think, I think Mali is going to destroy them today. No politics. No, I'm just talking about football. I'm just talking about football. That is the best. No politics here. Okay. Free, free, Palestine. Free. Palestine. Free. Palestine. and his wife start chanting at them fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, you, you, you. Just, this dude literally

was like, this, I'm just talking football. Israel's good. What's the first words he spoke to this fucking smurf? No, better than that. Israel's not bad. Yes, Israel's not bad. Which is literally all Israelis

want to hear from the rest of the world. He did go 180 degrees rather quickly though, didn't he? Yeah. That's the effect of Israelisness on neutrality. You can't be neutral on a train where there's Israelis waving and Israeli scarf in your face. I've never seen that level of them, that level of entitlement to just go around kind of preempting criticism and trying to drone it out and kind of to, it's incredible. That's again, new level stuff like that that level of entitlement. Are you about to drown it out? Yeah. To drown it out. Yeah. To drown.

down it out with politics while saying no politics. Yeah, no politics here. The dude is, he spends the first 20 seconds of that video, essentially just being like, no, please. I'm just want to talk about football. And then the dude is just like throwing up the Israeli flag going, no politic here. What do you expect from people, man?

There's levels of annoying that. that are acceptable in society. This is not, this is unacceptable. There's, like taking a guy and just turning them immediately into a member of PFLP, you know, God bless you, God bless you. Pretty incredible shit. Yeah, Islamic Jihad, Palestinian Islamic Jihad should hire this guy as a brand ambassador. Yeah, I mean, I go out there and do it.

You know, like these people who stop you for, like, PETA on the street or, you know, PETA, not to offer you PETA. I appreciate those people. The other people I love Pita. Or, you know, any kind of activist group that's trying to get you to sign up on the street. You know, they could just have this guy on the street waving the Israeli flag, recruiting people for. Warhawk to a guy. Very good. Warhawk, Warhawk, too.

Oh, my God. Warhawk, too. Adam. Adam. Adam. Um, can we have Adam as a guest some week? Absolutely. I mean, he controls his schedule.

So yes. Let him know. Book yourself, Adam. Let him know he's in. He's in. Before we get out of here, um, we should just talk to Tyg, uh, you know, without interrupting him for a little bit. Tye, what do you have to say about like stuff? Well, I had COVID, guys.

So thank you so much for being gentle with me. I'm still a bit brain foggy. I probably should have said that. should have said that at the start. No, you weren't, you were great. I couldn't even tell. Oh, thanks, man. Thanks, yeah, I had a real bad dose of the old COVID.

Just be careful out there, guys. And obviously, this is my way of telling anybody that I've been around over the last couple of weeks that they're really quite ill. Whether they realize it or not. But other than that, man, yeah, look, it's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure to have a laugh

because I have to say, man, I feel beaten by the whole thing for a couple of months. Like, I was at a March the other day, and I just kind of felt, you know, this needs to be. over. And there's no end in sight. It's a very unusual thing to be part of. It doesn't feel like there's any kind of like impending cessation to the nightmare and yet you're still actively kind of participating in your own small little way, obviously. But yeah, this gives me hope that

there's other guys out there who are trying to do their thing and keeping a lightness to it as well at times, which is kind of a sanity preserver. So yeah, my whole life and my whole career is still on hold because yeah this genocide is against all odds is still going on so um yeah thank you for your friendship yeah we love you and we we support you um and you know if you ever get invited back to Tehran i love iran as well just to say that but i also love i love you guys and to say just to say i get asked constantly i mean like probably once every couple of weeks in cork or dublin um if i'm coming back on this podcast people love this podcast you actually have a lot of fans in ireland yeah yeah i want to go to ireland real bad i've never been to ireland you got to come

let's do let's do a dublin let's do a dublin show oh that would be so much fun yeah live would be great fun dude live in dublin that was supposed to see katie helper last Last week for a live in Dublin, but because of this bastard COVID, I couldn't, but I love her, big fan. But yeah, let's us do a live. Dude, let's do. Which reminds me, we need to have some women guests. Yes. That's coming up.

Folks. Folks, everyone listening? You've had lots of female guests. Right, but it's been, like, the last, like, six weeks have been like all dudes. That's, okay. If not more. I could go have, I could go have like hot and sour soup right now. and I would only be able to taste balls and cock.

Like, it's so strong in my mouth from this podcast. Just, like, I could have ginger, chili popcorn chicken, and I wouldn't like this, the, the, the, the redolent aftertaste of the, of the masculinity. It's been a sausage fest. It's just in a sausage fest. Did Daniel have COVID as well? Yeah, I know. I was wondering that, too.

I was like, is everything tastes like cock when you're, when you have COVID? Cock COVID? Yeah. Cock bit, yeah. You got cockpit. Okay, so that bit, that bit didn't work, but it made, it put, it put an image in your head. I got an image in your head. It got you thinking.

It got you thinking. It was thought provoking. Yeah, you got some thoughts. Cockvids nine peen. Not bad. Not bad at all. Not bad. Well, worth it.

I do my best. Well, work. You know, I, listen, I'm not, am I the smartest guy in this podcast? No. Am I the most eloquent? No. Am I good at puns? No.

Also, no. well thanks so much for coming on a world's most oral podcast big shout out to your car one last shout out to your car one last shout out to my car uh still still up there in redwood city they're they're looking at it um at some point i'll go pick it up but thank you tyg the book once again for everyone is called do do do do a portrait of the piss artist as a young man uh by tagg hickey And also the myth of normal, which is a different book written by my co-host, Daniel Monti. Great writer, great book. Buy both books.

Yeah, buy both books. But don't buy this. It's a mess. Don't buy power now. It's by German. He's probably a Zionist at this point. I'm going to write my own book. You should, Matt.

You should. Yeah. I mean, other than my struggle book that I wrote about drugs that I had to help because of the title i'm going to write something else um the power of later oh it'll be about how i don't want to grow all right patreon dot com slash bad hasbara please support this podcast i need a new car bad hasbara at gmail dot com for all your questions comments and concerns all right everyone thanks again so much for listening and until next time from the river to the sea.

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