Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 76: Good Ol' Watts, with Reggie Watts

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by comedian and musician Reggie Watts, who shares his skepticism of large systems, the Palestinian solidarity of an Irish game show audience, and a surefire way to freak out a nervous fascist. Also, ceasefire.Please consider donating to the GoFundMe campaigns for Matt’s sister Diana, and Altadena’s Displaced Black Families.bit.ly/yondianabit.ly/altadenadbfFind Reggie Watts at https://www.instagram.com/reggiewatts/ and https://www.tiktok.com/@reggiewattsSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id1721813926Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Cease all the fires, man. Cease all the fires. You had to investigate that mean Captain Eras. Shout out to producer Adam Levin. And Daniel, what's the spin? No special significance to the spin this week, but, well, except one track. I picked this up for real cheap, Georgia Marauder, Battlestar Galactica. Georgia Marauder of, you know, Danger Zone.

and Donna Summer fame. Okay. Peter King, Shango, great Nigerian tenor sax player that I had to send away for that one,

but Jack of Astorius, the great Brazilian, I think, based player who played with Johnny Mitchell. This is his second album, Word of mouth. But in terms of tracks

that I was thinking of a fitting send-off to the Biden administration, Biden and Blinken, and I was thinking of rewriting, you know, don't think twice it's all right by Dylan with some caustic lyrics.

As we are known to do on this podcast sometimes. When we're not, when we're not feeling lazy. But the song that came to mind, and I listened to yesterday, was this by Elvis Costello from his Spike album in the late 80s. He wrote a song about Margaret Thatcher called Tramp the Dirt Down, where he says, and when they finally put you in the ground, I'll stand over your grave and tramp the dirt down. And it's all about what she did to England over the course of her tenure and to all the

British Isles and the whole society and and and there's just the austerity all the terrible shit that she's known for yeah yeah and the labor you know gutting labor and gutting the social taking the get taking the social out of society anyway I you know that this was before the news of this what seems to be a ceasefire yes broke and but even with it breaking there's nothing that could happen that would make me feel anything other than that. Contempt? Utter contempt?

Just an utter bitter. There's just a bitterness to that song and his voice is just so he's almost spitting the lyrics out but there's almost, you can almost hear the tears in it too. There's a lot of grief and it's just like this kind of sickening feeling of

it's the only way to send off people like this. So, you know, and now Trump's come along and done in negative of one week what what Biden insisted he was working tirelessly to do for 15 fucking months. Yeah. Yeah. I think Ryan Grimm said it best. It was like, wow, had they had the Biden administration known that Trump would have been able to pressure a ceasefire, they would have actually tried to win the election. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. It would have acted like he cared. Yeah. Yeah. It is, you know, there's a lot of, this is all breaking right now, this

possible ceasefire that has been agreed. By the time this comes out, by the time this comes out, there may be facts that contradict what we're saying. Yeah. So we're obviously going to get more information as we get it, but just the general story right now is that a ceasefire agreement has finally been made. And, you know, Donald Trump is taking credit for it. And, you know, based on a lot of articles, it seems like he actually might have been the X factor in that he just, number one, wanted to humiliate Biden before he even got into office. And number two, did not give the Israeli support, the support that they assumed he would give. And just didn't want to deal with the headache while he was president of having, you know, this continuing, not his words, but

genocide going on. But yeah, here's Biden announcing it earlier today. And Here we go. Good afternoon. Because at long last, I can announce a ceasefire and a hostage deal has been reached between Israel and Amas. More than 15 months of conflict, it began with Hezbollah's brutal massacre on October 7th. One of 15 months of terror for the hostages, the families,

the Israeli people, more than 15 months of suffering by the innocent people of Gaza. fighting in Gaza Oh, Hezbollah And soon the hostage And return home to their families And at the end As he was

No, this is not a joke As he was turning to go At the end of that press conference I think a British journalist says to him So do you think Trump deserves Do you have this clip? I have this clip

Here it is We'll hold I'm confident Thank you Books credit for this Mr. President You or Trump Is that a joke?

Oh, thank you. That is absolutely not a joke. But yeah, anyway, speaking of jokes, we have, this is probably the worst segue I've ever done. But speaking of jokes, speaking of doing funnies, we got a funny guy here, ladies and gentlemen, an amazing musician, an amazing comedian, an amazing person.

We're very excited to have here on the Baddest Bar podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, everyone else, please welcome. Sally, aka Reggie Watts is... Sally got a one-track mind. Sally got a one-track mind. Oh, you got the fingerless gloves. I see you're ready for a fight. Well, these are my podcast gloves.

Oh, okay. You put them on before all your appearances just to let people know not to fuck. Slick. Yeah, you got to have them. Otherwise, it just doesn't feel like I'm actually doing a podcast. yeah it's the way to prepare it's an emotional yeah you look good you're looking good you're rocking your old not know what they're missing oh my god you got the pinky yeah you've got a painted pinky finger let's podcast let's let's who's ready to pod

reggie watch i got some thoughts about ivermectin yeah yeah bro hydroxychloroquine Which you tried my new advanced serotonin-based creatine. I can't wait to try it. It's good. So, Reggie. Yes. First of all, thank you so much for coming on this podcast. We're very excited to have you.

My pleasure. My pleasure. I'm really stoked. Yeah. You know, whenever we get a guest that someone's actually heard of, the comments are usually just like, what? How? Why? And that's usually because I asked that very same question. But I wanted to ask you, after 15 months of all of this going on of the genocide in Palestine, how are you feeling

about the possibility of a ceasefire? Well, I mean, at first I just don't believe it, you know, because that's just like the automatic, you know, pessimistic. You know, I'm like, what's, you know, i'm just waiting for something to go wrong um but um i mean obviously yes i mean any even seconds you stop you know it stopped in the fighting i mean yeah probably save many many lives so the the the the moment that there isn't fighting to whenever hopefully you know that doesn't end hopefully that doesn't end but if it ever does then it's like whatever that length of time is you've saved that many lives so yeah yeah i don't know i feel temper in the the moment I'm glad for it a cautious optimism have you seen the clips of Palestinians in Gaza

reacting to it no I have not there's just been there's just clip after clip of just jubilation and relief and oh my God yeah because you know yes the fighting just means dying for them yes just just and just so yeah and also probably there's some defiance in the jubilation too like they didn't break us yeah they didn't achieve their maximalist aims we're still here and yeah i'm with you in terms of the the optimism if it's that is very very cautious and i think there's reason based on what i'm hearing to be worried that trump has given israel some back doors to resume after this and that and there's definitely a lot more bad news coming down the pike but to be able to say that that to be able to be

able to watch Palestinians be relieved yeah both there and in the diaspora like she and to and to exhale is is just something we haven't had in way too long yeah yeah yeah I really hope this I mean I don't know this situation is really kind of as I think it would any person who's hooked into their humanity like it would affect you every single day like you get up and sometimes just crying you know crying yeah sometimes just cry for no reason you know and or you'll be kind of on a good train of thought and then it'll just flash back in and and it's just like it lives with you because it's happening you know and it's happening to all of us and yeah you know I don't know it's weird I've never experienced you know anything like that none of us have ever experienced

and it's interesting to see how how it's handled you know through perception and juggling, and he was controlling the narrative and all that stuff. It's just mind-blowing to me, the lengths that are being gone through to just preserve the pipeline so that revenue is generated, you know? That's all it's about. It doesn't matter. None of the politics or emotional aspects. None of that matters.

That's all obfuscation. It's just, let's keep this going. Have you always been sort of plugged in to? to this part of the world or this topic or was some did something about the aftermath of october 7th has it been a learning curve for you like what's been your journey to get to the point where you you give a shit and not just not just vaguely or generally but you give a specific shit or at least enough of a shit to go on the bad has bar a podcast that's that's correct yeah that's completely correct um i mean i will say that you know i played a gig in Tel Aviv and like

like 2018 or something like that my bass player at the time hagar who's Israeli um was uh also happened to be there and so we like cross paths there and she showed me where she went to school and things like that and you know and i did the gig and all i knew was like oh it's israel yeah i mean that's kind of it yeah that's where i am that's all they want you to know i mean yeah exactly exactly exactly and and and it worked right it's like that idea of like oh israel that's it the first That's the name of their sitcom about themselves. It's Israel. It's Israel.

Hey, it's Israel. It's hot. What are you doing? I'm sitting down in a chair. That's Israel. That's Israel. That's Israel. Hey, I know how to make muffins.

So Israel. That's so Israel. All right. That's so Israel. The most relatable country in the Middle East. Just like you and me. That's so awesome. I'd say the first time I just got kind of like a bad vibe from the,

The organization, the governmental technical organization that is the country of Israel was really Galgadat. Like her... She gave you the Hebrew-Jibruz. She gave me a little bit. No, I just remember someone writing about like, you know, she's very pro-Zionist. And so, but I didn't know what that meant at all. Like, I had no idea what Zionist met.

And then, yeah, and so it was ambiently there, you know, from that. And that was kind of it. And then October 7th happened. And then immediately I was like, oh, are my Israeli friends okay? And there are their families okay? Sure. And reached out to them and was like, hey, are you okay? But, blah.

And then, yeah, and that was like for a little bit. And then all of a sudden this reality of what's happening to the people in Gaza, like what's going on. And the amount of force that was being used felt really off, like, and really obviously off. And then I started hearing about, you know, like Norm Finkelstein and, you know, people like that, started listening to some of their reactions to people who are very pro-Israel, you know, which I assume is Zionist, but I also kind of want to give it a little bit of margin that doesn't have to mean that you're Zionist, even in that context.

But anyways, you know, someone who is just like, I grew up and, you know, I'm a young kid and I want to speak out for my country or, you know, or the country that, you know, I have a birthright to, whatever the attachment is. And, you know, and then hearing him just go like,

no, we have no, I'm paraphrasing greatly, but like, you know, I will not accept this emotional tactic. you know this this crutch that's been generated and she's feeling sincerely emotional about it but why she's feeling emotional is the thing he's not accepting and it was it was amazing to see him dismantle that and and then the wake of that of course just learning more about the history of how israel came to be and like who was responsible for that you know and in many ways we should be really pissed at the UK um yeah I mean that's my default I always whenever any

anything happens in the world, you know, fucking British. I mean, when I was in the UK this summer, I don't know if you've ever experienced this in England, you walk into a place and instead of saying, hi, how are you, or can I help you, or say, you're okay. Yeah, that's right. You're right. You're right. You're right.

You're okay. So first of all, if I understand them to be asking me, am I okay? It's a strange question. Like, I don't know. Yeah, it feels weird. Am I okay? I don't know if I'm okay. Especially not Daniel Mate.

it's sometimes what's that especially not Daniel Mote don't ask Daniel Mote you're like are any of us okay man I'm Daniel Mote and I am not okay what is okay what is normal he wrote a book called the myth of okay but it sounded to me like they were saying UK they're just saying the name of their

fucking country oh oh yeah yeah just walking walking the door in Toronto Canada USA USA You say, hey, Kai, what does that even mean? So it sounds like your feelings were the pesky gateway to the truth and reality. Hasbara, which is in the title of our podcast, which if you don't know, means Israeli propaganda or explanation, they didn't get to you before your pesky feelings could wake you up to something. Right.

And by the time you looked into the facts, it was kind of too late for you. you were done you were done like dinner yeah i mean 100% and i've you know and i've always been skeptical of uh large systems you know like corporate structures sure government systems and how they synergized maybe you just never met the right one yeah that's so true that's so true you know i always i have my 90% rule which is or my 10% rule which is always leave 10% possibility that you could be wrong yeah maybe there's one system out there for you that you just I just guess my, well, you know what? I think there is.

I will say, I'm just going to say I think there is because a system is neutral. Not all global hegemonic orders are alike, you know? Don't generalize. Yeah. Right, right. God, that's so cool. I'm just writing that down. Okay.

Done. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I mean, I just think like if you have a heart and, you know, also, And you hear South Africa coming at you. Yeah. That was strong. Yeah. And, man, and fucking Ireland.

Yeah. Fucking kidding me. Maybe not fully governmentally. But in general, like I did a game show there recently called, name that tune with Randy Jackson is one of the musical director. Anyways, did it in there and I and I'm they it was a charity thing. And so I did the Palestinian Children's Relief Fund. Oh, very cool. And and so they announced it and everybody got up and it was a standing ovation for like at least like a minute or something like that. And and then they, you know, stopped and went down like I started to tear up. You know, I was just like, whoa, that's a lot of people that just instantly. I was like, whoa. What? a cool, you know, and then people thanking me on the way out, like, you know, people working there were just like, hey, just want to thank you for it. I was just like, oh, that is so

amazing that it has that much of an effect. And because it's so little spoken about. I mean, you just talked about like the UK and, you know, blaming things on the British, if there's one, you know, group of people that understands that very well, it's of course the Irish who have, you know, were victims of, you know, the British imperialism and colonization for a long, long time and also understand, like, armed resistance. And, and, yeah, so... They call themselves Padistinians. Yeah, they do.

Whoa, that's amazing. When I was there in March, I've never been in an environment like an Irish pub with people singing, you know, in Gaelic or Irish and Arabic. Wow. Some songwriter did a hybrid song, and the two languages actually... go beautifully together and waving the flags and no it's you've seen you've heard of sister cities but it really does feel like sister countries that that's heavy man makes me want to move to ireland it makes me it's a cool place it seems nice you know i don't know yeah the weather kind of

does seem like the worst part of it um yeah i mean that's the worst but you know i their sweaters are great they got nice sweaters i'm like if there's like if you if you if you if you if a country is known for one thing I think a sweater is in the top probably top 10 for me if Israel were just known for sweaters I don't think there'd be a podcast

I also yeah and I don't think they'd be committing genocide yeah I don't think they'd be committing genocide because they'd be like so satisfied with this product that they have that brings so much joy to them and the world right exactly they'd just be like now why don't we just like set up

I bet you Palestinians are really good at Oh, shit, they've got this stench pattern that we did. Fuck. Oh, now we're, oh, shit, now we're making a lot. What the fuck? Yeah, exactly. They could have. Imagine that.

They could have had it all. Israel could have been Singapore. They could have said about Gaza whole time. Oh, my God. Israel could have been Singapore. Yeah. But, you know, you have been one of, I would say, like, relatively few, like, public figures, especially in comedy, I think,

who have, you know, been consistently, I think, posting about it. Not in a way that's, you know, obviously you didn't start a podcast about it, but, you know, doing things like promoting the Palestinian Children's Fund, you know, as a charity. You did a video in your car recently right before you played Red Rocks, which I thought was really powerful because it could tell you were vulnerable and having a lot of feelings, which is something we've been known to do when we're not reactively being defensive towards having feelings through a guise of bad puns. We also have feelings. So I wanted to play some of that just because you clearly had some thoughts. I'm really bummed about what Israel is doing

right now. Just woke up with a lot of heaviness. And, uh, I'm not proud of the human race right now. I know we've got some, I know there's a lot more good in the world than there is bad, but that shit's bad. It's got to fucking stop. You know, watching, you know, the entirety of that video, I could see a little bit of you, guarding yourself against what was inevitably going to be a sea of terrible comments from people. because you know at one point you do mention that people have like they've just started on comments have just started to just not without even pretending to know you just saying awful things so yeah I just want to ask you your experience of what it's being what it's been like being one of the few people that you know is that people know who has talked about their feelings about this publicly well i mean i don't know it's like i i i don't notice anything i guess i haven't

noticed anything too substantively different in my life only that um i've definitely i have some stronger friendships because of it yeah there's kind of this extra level of uh recognition you know solidarity um also you know i'm i have a new uh girlfriend it's all going to be almost a year in like over a month or something like that and and she's like super concerned about issues like this very very left and her heart is in a really amazing place and she's a lawyer and she you know specialized she went into it for union side labor law very cool and you know things of that nature so equity and things of that nature you know amongst friends, especially new friends from Berlin and a few other places as well,

has really, like, strengthened us because of the issue. And, you know, Peaches and I went to a pro-Palestinian, I guess, rally. Peaches? Yeah, peaches. Like Peaches, Peaches? Uh-huh. Like, what else is in the teachers of peaches? Like teaches of peaches, yeah.

Wow. I love peaches. Teach their own. Yeah. Give peach a chance. Each one, each one. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we need this peach.

Yeah. Yeah, she was just like, we were having coffee one day, and she's like, I'm going to this Palestinian pro-Palestinian rally. I just say, if you want to go. And I was like, yeah, fuck it. And so we just grabbed a car and went. And, yeah, it was very, it was small. It was kind of anemic, but, you know, I'd say there was probably like 50 people there

something like that maybe a little bit more and uh and then there's like this row of cops you know at the end of the the perimeter where the next street was and this was in berlin you said berlin in front of the Reichstadt yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah it was you know nothing happened the police didn't come in and you know whatever but there were people that were spending the night so there were tents up yeah and you know and that's always like random when the police decide to be like true Gestapo yeah because their tactics are fucking insane yeah yeah they're doing it for us now man yeah yeah yeah totally yeah that's those still harder yeah they're doing it harder because right we're not quite there we're like close really

close you should be saying donkey Shane yeah totally it's a you should say donker to us ungrateful Jew look at you no it's okay just punch them in the side real hard Yeah, yeah, like that Yeah, and they won't even know no bruising Yeah, yeah, that way they'll think twice About doing it again, even though it takes a show That that doesn't work at all Love yourself, Jew, where's your national pride?

Are your papers? It's like, I don't have any papers, it's all digital. Yeah, that is, yeah, I mean, especially in Germany And we've covered this a few times on the show, not enough, but in terms of the amount of repression that's happening. for me yes enough enough for Daniel that's a lot that's a lot it's way too much for him uh but yeah the the amount of repression you know when it comes to protesting a pro-palistine protesting in germany is like

it's insane and so there being 50 people is probably a lot for them oh yeah it's it's crazy how like everything else in berlin is pretty sick yeah say yeah almost almost everything else is pretty fucking great. And I'm sure if you live there, live there, you'd have a couple other things you could point out. But from the outsider who's, you know, spent what, eight months in the last two and a half years there, I would say, you know, everything else except for that because I never had an issue with police. I've never had to run in with police. I've never felt weird about police. I've even seen skinheads at shows and never had a problem with them. I always say hey to him. And weirdly, they do say hey back, which is oddly been, I've had a history. I've had a

history of that with like being right next to white supremacists where you say hi like on a bus like on a guy with like a swastika yeah his neck and like wearing like you know fucking doc martins sure and fucking the whole thing right just like bomber jacket shaved head and uh i remember like he looked up in me and i was like and he goes and i was like and then i kind of realize most of the people like that that are in those types of supremacy camps or whatever really really really what they're lacking is genuine respect. Yeah. Yeah. They don't have it.

Yeah. And so, so it goes, it goes like, it gets channeled into, on top of the indoctrination. It's like, that adds to it. And so you get these like turned off. Yeah. I'm doing this because I'm, you know, this is my job and these are pests.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's that deeper longing for human connection and. And brotherhood of some kind. Brotherhood, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And if there was, if there was generalized brotherhood on our world, maybe they wouldn't need the Aryan kind. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. Because it's ultimately, it's inefficient. It's not an efficient form of like way of life. It's not efficient. And it's self-destructive. It's completely self-destructive. Like almost guaranteed.

Yeah. And it's, you know, the parallels obvious are obvious to me, at least between that and kind of what Zionism is. is, you know, just the kind of like turned inward nature of like, I don't need, we don't need anyone else but us. Fuck the world type attitude, which has led to nothing but, you know, seven different types of horrors for the last 15 months at least, you know, not to mention up until the creation. Yeah, the 60 odd. Yeah, 70 odd.

I mean, just, you know, ethnic cleansing and occupation and apartheid. But if what Reggie is saying is true, then you're all going to make me reconsider my policy of shunning Zionists contemptuously up and here, up and here. I think it's different on an individual basis. I do think that, like, you know, my thoughts on treating any human being in real life is always with respect and always a little bit of caution. You never, you know. And maybe some creativity, too. based on what the moment allows. Sure.

100%. But if I'm on a podcast, you know, and I'm talking about people who have the power in a system, then yeah, I'm going to talk shit. And my thought in general is that if the, if people being mean to you on the internet, like if it's, you know, like if there's a real world issue, like a genocide and your response is like, well, I hate genocide, but not as much as I hate people being mean to me on the internet, then you're the problem. And you deserve score. That's my thought. Yeah, no, sure. I wasn't talking about reconsidering how we do things here. It is more, it is more. I think

early in the October, the post-Oxeptember 7th world, I made a bit of a name for myself on Instagram, like engaging with individual people. Oh, sure. Yeah. I did a debate with an active duty Israeli Reserve Soldier who was sitting on a fucking base right outside of Gaza and it nearly destroyed me. I went for three hours with the guy. The guy is an expert propagandist. I think I did pretty well. I held my own.

I held serve but it was a lot and there were a lot of people being like, why are you even engaging with these people? Would you do a public event with an active duty Nazi soldier? And then there's people who don't have that level of power. They're just deeply indoctrinated, and I thought I could, you know, the spectacle of publicly on social media back when I had the energy for that kind of thing, which these days I absolutely don't.

You know, taking people through how you do what Norm did, say, Norman Finkelstein in that video you're talking about, like I wanted to perform that kind of service. And Norm's not the kind of person who's like, I won't debate a Zionist till he goes on, here's Morgan with Shuli Botech or anyone. Anyway, I'm just saying I, it's nice, it's nice. It's nice for my soul to make contact with you, Reggie, who you're not exhausted and jaded and so sectarian that you're just not going to be able to be human to somebody. And your humanity clearly has a positive effect on someone who other people might say, don't bother. Right, right, right. And you're saying maybe bother.

Well, at the very least say hi. Or say Hile? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before they say Hile. Just, yeah, I mean, like, you know, I think I don't know. I guess I've told this story once before, but I was in the, it was in Balzano, Italy, which is in the, I don't know, the Alps somewhere. And so it has like this, you know, mountain ski town kind of vibe. But there's an arts school that's up there as well.

So I was doing a thing with some performance artists for the opening of a new wing of an art school. And so we got to choose rooms and do these cool installations. But one night we were all meeting for dinner in town. And so we left our dorms, me and a friend, and we started walking up this street, this cobblestone steep street in this mountain village. And there's a young man kind of walking fast, like kind of skinny young man, like walking fast,

you know, in the opposite direction as we're going up. And then I could tell there was a nervous energy about him. And then at a certain point, just before we're crossing, whatever, he's like, Heil Hitler. And he crossed his bottom. And then, like, I just turn around and go, Hile Hitler. You just hiled right back. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was just like, hey, I'm Hile Hitler. And I love that shit because it's a bunch of bullshit, you know, and like, they know it. And it's like, if you react in the way that they want you to react, you have to like, you have to act asymmetrically. It's like, it's a hack. It's a social hack that needs to be happening. And I think we don't necessarily approach it that way as much. But I think for me, it's like the two things is efficiency through hacking. And so, you know, and so that's the way I think of it.

No, yeah. I don't want to give those people what they want. Yeah, we call it the irony dome. That's what we call it here, you know? Nice. You just use satire and also irony to kind of like take the wind out of someone who's clearly looking for a reaction, which, you know, oh, yeah. And you for a living, or at least you, but partly what you've made your name on is doing

doing the kind of comedy that make people go, what, was that a joke? What did he, like, in congruity, you know, you're hacking the, you're, you're hacking comedic expectations. So, yeah, is it like second nature to you to respond that way? I, for sure. Yeah, because I think it's fun. And if I have enough time to analyze the situation, like, luckily I can process things pretty quickly. So if it's like, here's a potentially dangerous situation, someone's coming at you in a certain way.

And then I'll kind of like recognize that. And then I'll just go like, how can I completely decontextualize it? And then I'll do something, you know, that I think is that. And yeah. And oftentimes it's the best thing you can you can do, you know, because it just reminds someone that oh you're here you've blown past all of your little tactic circles your encryption tactic encryptions and just like went straight just bypassed all of them and so like hey i see what you're doing and this is ridiculous and also i kind of don't give a fuck yeah and so but i see you you know

that's that's kind of thing so sometimes when people get hit that way they'll be like oh fuck you see me okay hey what's up yeah you know hi yeah so you're like yeah that's what i thought get the fucking over here the fuck it's wrong with me what do you get the fuck over here give me a hug yeah give me a hug stop this nonsense yeah yeah i mean if we can i mean you know why not like bring people along if you know like give them a little bit of a chance is my thing like obviously you know it's situational you know but like of course of course if you give someone just like a small just a little bit of a buffered chance you can you can figure it out pretty quick like is this person like gonna see something which means that they'll probably see they have the opportunity to see

more later and then that will grow and growing growing growing and then they might come out of their shit or whatever yeah yeah I find that very moving and it yeah it reminds me of a way that I like being that I don't feel I've had access to being in quite some time yeah yeah you know well are you mean have you've kind of isolated a little bit more right yeah yeah I understand it is powerful I mean that's why I think it's demonstrative in the world you know it's like touring is great it's it's great. My partner can come with me on tour now. And so she'll be with me on tour, which is really sweet. That's usually the hardest part about touring. And so, you know, we're figuring out a way to tour together. And so doing that, I feel it's important for me to, because I think the thing

what's what I love, like one of my favorite Egyptian gods is Anubis. And, you know, and all the analogs, you know, through different cultures or Haiti. Who's your second favorite? I guess caron. Okay. Yeah, I was going to say Karen. I'm more of a Karen head. I'm more of a Karen guy. Or like the ultimate of the Sumerian goddess Irishkegol, who like many

cultures have like just just kind of morphed into their theology. Yeah, sure. But but she was like the goddess of the underworld. I've always been more into gozer when it comes to Sumerian. Oh my God. Oh, I love gozerer the gozerzerian. Yeah, he's a gozarian. It's a gozaryan. It's a Gozerian. It's important. It's important that, yeah. Some people don't know where he's from, but he's the gozerian who happens to be named Gozer.

You think of the one of the gozers in your life and you're just like, I'm confused. Which one? Gozer the Gozer the Gozzerian? I hereby command you to. There is no dame. Remember in the CCB as Ghostbust's podcast, man, every episode I was true. That's true. For a while, when we were more optimistic on this podcast. Tell us about Anubis. Yes, please. Oh, yeah. Tell us. Okay.

I'll tell you all about Nubisian. Yeah, he's Anubisian. He's like, Anubis. No. No, what I liked about Anubis is that he was the god of the underworld. And so he had the ability to get to move between the world of the living and the dead and fluidly. And therefore was able to like explore the full spectrum of beingness or whatever. So I always thought that was so cool.

And then as my life has gone, that's kind of how I am socially. Like I'll go to a weird underground rave, you know, with like 30 people and some DJ that no one's ever heard of, you know, and just have a fucking blast and, you know, support an underground artist, you know, that is doing work in a weird tunnel or something like that. And then all the way to, you know, being, I don't know, invited to go to Richard Branson's island. Island and, like, Richard Branson and other, like, you know, like, amazingly, like, Brianino and, like, you know, like, these, like, cool connections. Another good Palestine advocate. Yeah, Brianino. And I should have mentioned at the top that Elvis Costello also is. Oh, shit.

Yeah. For real? That's hot. That makes me so happy. I mean, come on, man. Like, like, just have some fucking balls, you know? It's like, it's not that, it's not that hard. And it's also totally, especially for musicians, it's on brand.

Yes. Like, you're expected to say shit like that. It's like you would do it just for the image. So why not just do it for real and you get the image? You know what I mean? I know. I know. You'd figure.

But we've covered the amount of like anti-BDS, anti-Palest, anti-Palestian, like, musicians who have surprised us. And every time, it's just like a gut punch because you're like, but you're so good at everything else. I know. I mean, I seriously quite, if anybody who. justifies it's one thing to be apathetic yeah but but when someone comes to the defense of something or like saying like well you know you should also consider you know like that kind of a thing which i get i love considering all the angles like why things exist and how they got to be where they are i love that i think it's super awesome but at the same time there's there are quick barometers

as to like the likelihood that you're going to really vibe with somebody right yeah you know And genocide is one of them. Yeah, it's one of the quickest barometers. Oh, no, if it is. Like, you're like, really? I can see me maybe in the first month. Yeah, and it shouldn't take you so long to consider that one. Like, all things considered, sure.

Yes. But let's keep it moving. I know. They're like, no, absolutely. You're like, yes, thank you. Okay, so what were we talking about? Pizza toppings. Yeah, totally.

You love pizza, right? But yeah, during the last, 15 months, you know, you talked about friendships growing stronger. Did you have any of them fray because of this? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

People who kind of went off the deep end. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I mean, yeah, I had a friend in the UK who I always like let them know when I'm in town and, you know, those things.

But then they started like hitting me up on Instagram. direct messaging me about like these other points of view and like um that's always the fucking instagram dms dude it's so crazy so many friendships have died in fucking instagram DMs well i guess yeah because it's fresher i guess they just got off like a really cool scroll and they're right exactly they're like i just collected six or seven sources all from the shirion collective uh lines of israel hard and i'd have to really look hard i mean there's not that much out there on it yeah it's like really there's not much out there on it you mean those haven't those subjects haven't been formally studied and put forth in official papers from the academic well not by any

trustworthy sources yeah exactly exactly yeah exactly oh I'm supposed to trust the you and yeah we don't trust the un yeah yeah I mean they're on trustworthy they're on trust that's what it means yeah that I mean the whole propaganda thing like that just also just like what's what's happening in Lebanon you know as well and having many Lebanese friends and I'm like how is the world doing this how are we continuing to you know and slowly some countries are like okay that's not cool we're going to sanction you know or whatever or I can let let you use our port you know but it's taken so incredibly long like it's it just shows you that that it's either looking at predictive.

They're either looking at predictive models, you know, and like adjusting world economies and logistics routing, you know, and like they're looking at that. And they're just kind of looking at like, how do we make things efficient? It's like, well, the bottlenecks here. It's like, can we send in some white blood cells and clean out that area so we can get that flow going?

Right, right, right. I think there is an element of a clinical corporate point of view that they're just making. hold decisions and they're not connected to it in the on the on the boots obviously but like but they're just making these decisions and and and and because also human value human well-being is not the one of the value systems i mean like that that are it's not valued in capitalism in current capitalism it's not one of the quotients that's a part of the ingredients that then make it more desirable less desirable right so you know but so when that's

Now you're going to get these problems, but it would be more efficient for it to include human well-being because then you'd get a more full-spectrum, holistic approach to making decisions, and you'd be able to know if something actually is working or not. Yeah. And so, but it's, it's mind-blowing that the parasite of greed is so finely tuned and nuanced to really, like, make people believe that what they're doing is important and necessary. And these boards, which are disconnected from the product, and they just want to see the exponential growth of their, or the shareholders, you know, and the board. But they just want to see their profits increase, and so they're extra disconnected, and they're the motivators,

and they decide the fate of leaders in corporations and corporations themselves. So everything is disconnected and fragmented. No one is connected to human well-being, and that system has been generated on purpose to be that way, because they humans whoever it is cooperatively are saying this is the most efficient way to get the most amount of income and without actually thinking about it like the loss of human lives the inequity is like brain trust that's going it's not being used you have all these human beings that have really cool unique ways of seeing things that are not being allowed to participate in the system instead they're in pure survival mode so like we We're a loss of brain trust, you know, the loss of like goodwill and positive energy and excitement, you know, about being human beings and being in community and helping one another.

And when our community is happy, we feel happy. And we can still have like fun, cool, dumb ass shit, you know, but we can just do it in a way that we're supporting each other and one another, respecting our individuality, but also living collectively. And so, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, crazy. Yeah, I think, you know, talking about the people who have been like DMing you and trying to, you know, give you the other perspective. I, you know, I would say that at least in my experience, from what I've experienced, they do think that they are helping. and what they think they are fighting against

is the exact same thing that we think we're fighting against which is like the disinformation the idea of like you're being fed lies and whatnot and so it becomes kind of like you know two people like a shadow game

yeah yeah you're just like two people calling each other the pot and calling each other the kettle both are both the kettle and the pot at least according to that's, you know, the people DM me and be like, no, the actual truth is that, you know, everything that you're saying is genocide is not a genocide, and the actual genocide is happening against the Israeli people. And so you have to like, you know, you have to try to parse their

own reality. And then at the end, it's just like, when you talk about efficiency, it's completely inefficient to, for every person, try to deprogram them one by one, especially when it's so easy for them to write you off completely. So have you had people just write you off completely? Well, I've had to kind of write them off because I think they really want to continue trying to get me to see that side. You know, I even have a Russian friend who is not not Zionist I wouldn't say. He's very much his own person, but but the way he views it is kind of like a mixture of like the Russian viewpoint and kind of a German kind of element to, to it. So it has like a, there's like a little bit of a detachment to it.

And it's kind of along the lines of resources, like the con being conscious of resources and maintaining certain balances of power in the world. Like, you know, it very, very interesting. Yeah, very interesting. He was like, well, the status quo exists because it is at a perfect balance. It needs to maintain the perfect balance. I mean, you know, and again, I'm paraphrasing if he was on, he'd probably be like, no, I'd mean to see. You know, like he would, it would, you know, you'd probably gain some interesting insight.

But anyways, but so it's good to have at least a friend who's not full, he's not really a Zionist. He's actually somewhere in the middle. Okay. He's like in, he's like a, like a contractor level, you know, in, I don't know. That's the vibe. Anyways. Yeah. But, but, but yeah, I mean, yeah, the people who are like doing that and they're very, very, they're just, they've got like all the books ready to go, like to send you the links, ready to go.

Yeah. You're like, here's your package, like, like, here's your, your friend, personal friend guide. Right. Here is your larger social network plan. It's a press kit. Yeah, press kit. Everyone's got their press kit ready. And they're like, here's my electronic press kit of the right books to read and the right people to quote.

And yeah, it's definitely been definitely been a bummer in terms of personal relationships for a while. But also, like you said, I've grown, relationships have grown a lot stronger with a lot of people in my life. And you met a few cool people. Yeah, I met a one or two cool people. I mean, either one or two. Yeah, shout out to producer Adam Levin and also Daniel Mote. Sure, you're on the list.

Yeah, we all met because of this shit. Yeah. It's sick. It's pretty sick. Do we need a break, Matt? Yeah, let's do that. Let's take a real quick break. Everyone stick around, listen to these commercials.

Wonderful advertisements. They're probably selling you good things that you need. Reggie, I'm betting you can do a really good ad man voice. Oh, I love. I love. Do ad work? That's great. Yeah, I love it.

All day long, I'm just like, you can't ask for it by name, but three out of five people would agree. This particular hair cream is the way to go. With anti-retinol conditioning agents, you and a group of friends can enjoy a wonderful vacation at eight of our locations. That is incredible. You know, just like bullshit. Like that is all day long. Like someone says something, but they say they mess the word up. New sflerve, because it's larger and more softer than before.

you know like I can't it's just in my head what I've noticed in especially like in the 2010s into the 2020s there's a there's a new thing advertising which is a kind of snide voice like yeah that's right like so many advertisers like it's just what we do or like yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm like I'm just imagining that person in the studio recording the thing and the director being like can we get a little bit more like can you be more bitchy not yeah yeah yeah about yeah about the Hair cream. Yeah. And like add just like a dash of weasel in there. Thank you. It's a little weasel. It's just a little weasel. There's nothing better than what you think life is supposed to be about. So why does it even? You're just like, yeah. Oh, I totally relate. Tell me more.

I trust you. I love what I think life is supposed to be about. Yeah. So stick around and listen to what life's supposed to be right. We'll be right back. And we're back. This is Bad Hasbara, World's Most Moral Podcast. We are here with Reggie Watts, aka Mustang, Sally. How are you doing? You've slowed that Mustang down? I haven't.

Oh, shit. Yeah, but it's, but I mean, I plan to. It's more of a Sally Struthers vibe. Way more Struthers. Yeah, way more Struthers. I'd rather the Struthier. That's what I've always said. Not without my Mustang.

I don't know what's that? Stradherzian. That might have been Sally Field. Guys, recently the show 60 Minutes, which is on one of the networks, CBS. I don't know you just call it an hour. No, man. You can't do that. 60 minutes.

It's 60 minutes. Because the other one takes 60 minutes of your time. It's like saying 1999 instead of 20. Right, exactly. That's exactly what it's like. We all know it's 20, but come on. Let's get more numbers. More numbers better.

Sounds more reasonable. Yeah, it does. I got 60 minutes. Who's got an hour? Reminds me of more hours. Jesus Christ, not enough hours in the day. Oh, this is only taking 60 minutes. So 60 minutes.

60 minutes is a news program that has largely ignored sort of the last 15 months of what's happening in Gaza, you know, with the genocide and all. And apparently they kept some some stuff on file. They kept some stuff on file. There were a few, you know, ex-Biden administration folks who went on 60 minutes recently and talked about what's happening.

So kudos for them airing it at all. They aired some footage from May of last year. Yes. This month. That's what I felt so galling. It's like, in this newly released footage from May, movie released by us why the fuck have you been covering it you know 30,000 human beings ago yeah and because of grandpa yes because old grandpa joe he's uh he's a sick man and uh yeah so

they finally did release it and uh the reaction on the um has barra side on the uh pro israel side has not been good i have a video that someone sent a friend of the show sent to us where, yeah, this is just a breakdown of what happened with 60 minutes. Here we go. We need to talk about this 60-minute segment, the Gaza policy, because it is a masterclass in anti-Israel propaganda. I have pulled three of the most shocking and egregious clips from high-ranking officials within the Biden administration. Look at that nice map of Palestine around her neck.

Oh, yeah. Look at that. It's a full map. She wants all of it for the Palestinians? Yeah. She's definitely. Wow. She's definitely.

And those eyes. Yeah, those eyes that say... The laser eyes. The eyes that say, trust me. Trust me, but because I'm mesmerizing you. Troops. But what if I realize? That's what you're doing.

Troops. You're doing tropes. You're doing tropes. Troops. Do do, do, do, do, do, do. Troop, trope, trope, trope, trope. Actually. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Here we go. Two of the State Department officials interviewed here have ties to CARE, the Council for American Islamic Relations, whose head praised the October 7th massacre. Coincidence? This is who has been making decisions on behalf of our... So just real quick, to frame CARE as some sort of, like, pro-Islamic terrorist organization is absolutely insane. Like care is a Muslim and Arab civil rights organization.

Like that's what it is. And they have, you know, a fraction of the funding of any other civil rights organization that is pro-Israel. So just so people know, care is good and not bad. Our country. Scary stuff. And also she showed a, I mean, have ties to, what ties.

Right, exactly. And the clip or the screenshot she showed of the head of care, this is all this guilt by association. She's saying, praising the massacre of October 7th. Well, the Chiron, the subtitled, said something about them throwing off the shackles of, right. To say that on that day those people who broke out of that concentration camp were throwing off shackles is not praising a massacre.

No, there were. I don't know what else he said. Yeah. I'm willing to bet he did not praise any massacres. I'm willing to bet he alluded to or included in his response to it, the fact that that Palestinians are shackled? That Palestinians are shackled? Yes.

And this was a prison break. Whatever happened after the prison break, it was a prison break. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm perfectly healthy. Oh, sorry.

Go ahead. 10 days after the October 7th attacks, Paul became the first person in the Biden administration to publicly resign in protest. The moment of October 7th was a moment of incredible worldwide solidarity with Israel. That's true. And had Israel leverage that moment to press for a real, just and lasting peace, I think we would be in a very different place now in which Israel would not be facing this increasing isolation around the world. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this, a chance for a real just and lasting peace after Hamas butchered 1,200 innocent Israelis and kidnapped over 200 people and declared war on Israel.

What kind of alternate reality are we living in here? How does peace happen with a terrorist organization that literally has a charter calling for the destruction? I'm sorry, it still does not, it does not have that charter. This wasn't a chance for peace. This was a moment where Israel had no choice but to respond to an unprecedented act of terror. No sovereign nation in the world would sit back and let their people be slaughtered

without fighting back, suggesting that Israel should have just done nothing. That is not peace. That is suicide. And the next part is... So literally, the idea... I love the framing of someone saying, like, Israel, everyone was, you know, on Israel side after October 7th, they could have leveraged the goodwill in order to create some sort of

lasting peace. What that means is, I'm sorry, State Department speak for they could have surreptitiously done some sort of annexation or they could have done more apartheid if they had wanted to. They could have continued the apartheid at an even stronger race. But instead, what they chose to do was full on fucking guns blazing genocide. Instead, what they said was, no, this is our chance in order to do ethnic cleansing of the Gaza Strip. That's literally, the guy is not out there going like, you know, if they had only just said, oh, your Hamas is right and then made Hamas the Israeli government and ended Israel, then it would have been fighting. No, the guy is literally just saying everyone was on Israel's side until they decided to do war crimes on TikTok.

You were winning the PR battle. Yeah. Until you went for a psyched. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God. Yeah, you got to not do that, you know, or at least keep it private. Jesus, Chris, these motherfuckers. Yeah. Been more sick and twisted. The acting director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Brett Holmgren, told 60 Minutes that anti-American sentiment driven by the war in Gaza is at a level not seen since the Iraq war, and that groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS are recruiting on that

sentiment issuing the most specific calls for attacks on America in years. Protests began erupting in the Arab world, with people burning American flags. You believe that this has put a target on America's back, you've said. 100 percent. Those are strong words. Yes. I got to get this straight. I'm sorry. Oh, I can't. Oh, she's got to get it straight. She's got to get it straight. That's cool, because I was super confused about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything that was said was straight enough. I need, you know what? Everything that was said is just decades upon decades

of consensus among anyone who studies foreign policy. Understanding that, you know. America and American security is put at risk vis-a-vis are continued allegiance with Israel as a country that's going to do whatever it wants. I mean, literally, this is just, this is the general consensus. is everyone knows that the risks at this point, whether or not they outweigh the benefits of having our own imperial colonial outpost is like, sure, you could still debate that. But I don't think-

You can say it's worth having planes flying into American skyscrapers every three or four decades or whatever. But at least at least take the memo that part of what drives the hostility towards your empire, empire is the imperial ways it acts all over the fucking world. Yeah. There's a plane nearby that I think is going to kill one of us. But I muted my mic to see if it was me, so I'm going to be able.

No, it's me. It was a it was a it was a helo. Okay. Well, as long as a helo. Let's try to get this straight. Yeah, yeah. Let's hear. After the worst terrorist attack in its history is somehow to blame for radical

terrorism in America, what? kind of twisted logic is this? It's actually very straightforward. You see, what happens is called blowback. What happens is that America is... That's not an Arabic word. That's a U.S. military word. No, yeah, that's a regular as American as apple pie word, blowback.

So what happens when our foreign policy is such that we are so imperial that other countries around the world are like, hey, you guys are bad for us. And then people want to, they want to punish the center of the empire rather than it's, you know, proxy like Israel, you know? Like, sure, Israel's fighting, but they're also like, well, who's the main funder? Who's the biggest thug on the block who's supporting an apartheid state? It's the United States. Hi, hey, what's up? And this 60 Minutes report, you know, to its credit, talked about how, and it was the footage from Gaza in May with children building makeshift tents.

and making play things out of, you know, weapons casings and you look right on them and it says, made in Michigan or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's just, and, you know, this. How do you expect people all over the world to respond when the only construction materials available to them are the casings from the 2,000 pound bombs

that leveled their entire neighborhood and it comes from your country? And it's, and it says the name of the country. It says who did it. It's insanity. I mean, it really is, it's, you know, but the one thing I'm heartened by is that, you know, it's, it's like a pendulum, right? Like, the pendulum can only go so far. That's true.

And the more that you go up, the more, the more force you're building. Yeah. So, so at some point, there will just be tolerances where it just, it cannot be sustainable anymore and it will swing. Yeah, that's, you know. You know, that's one thing I think about, but like being active, you know, in whatever way I think I, I can be active, you know, in that is, uh, uh, it's just like something I'm always thinking about. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm always thinking about like, how do you, how do you create like pragmatic, easy to absorb like little, little phrases, little things that kind of like make

people kind of come out of their, their usual grooves or whatever. So they have space to think for a little bit. Right. Conceptually. Might change their head space in some way. Yeah. Yeah. Like they they realize like, oh, when you're conceptualizing and you're sharing ideas with people, you feel better. You're communicating ideas and you're in a community where other people are considering your ideas and you're considering their ideas. So, you know, I feel like this post is almost the antithesis of that in a way. It's just like.

Oh, yeah, 100%. You know, if you want to, like, if you'd show this to someone, just get, if you were like, if you didn't have any videos to talk about what you want to talk about, just send in this video and just say, like, do everything the opposite. Let me get this straight. You want me to think about this tragic situation in a way that might bring some clarity to it?

Right, exactly. Wait, you're trying to tell me that there's a reason why terrorists do terror? Now I've heard everything. Are they seriously saying that Israel shouldn't protect its citizens because other radical Islamic groups

might feel motivated to terrorize more? That is insane. Terrorists don't need an excuse to commit terrorism. That is what they do. No, that is literally. what terrorism is that by definition it yeah of course it is yeah yeah the political reason behind it it is the excuse uh oh that's just that's

i mean i mean who's like is there any crew that's just pure terrorist yeah i know you know what i mean like like all the warriors terrorizing you're like that's it they're not it's not political they just want to terrorize they're called the grimlins the grimlins yeah yeah you're right yeah yeah with them there still is a reason it's you got you got them wet where they ate after midnight. There's still a reason. I was watching I was watching the Warriors, uh, the movie of the Warriors. The rogues, the ones who actually shot Cyrus, they're kind of what she's describing, you know, because they ask like, why did you shoot,

why did you shoot Cyrus? And he's like, I just kind of like doing stuff like that. This is the type of movie-ass black and white thinking that is so rooted in Islamophobia, where it's just like, Terrorists, they don't need a reason. They just see you and they kill you because they're born bad. You know how some people are just born evil? And it's like, no, I don't. I don't know that. No, I don't know that at all.

I have never considered that. Thank you. No. Yeah. And of course, we're miles away from even being able to consider the possibility that she might realize that the word terrorism applies much, much better and much more copiously, prodigiously and fucking... King David Hotel.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Who brought terrorism to that region? That was the first label in writing. That was the first description of that act, like, you know, humans doing that. And that was the first time they were using it in that context in the Middle East. I'm going to have to update the... Jews invent everything. Yeah, I'm going to have to update the theme song to terrorism us.

It'll be right after Cherry Tomatoes. Yeah. Yeah, let's finish this bad way. Radical Islamic groups have hated the West and Israel and Israel and particular for decades. Do you remember 9-11? That wasn't because of Israel's actions. Actually, it was. It was because of radical ideology. I mean, I'm not saying it's the only reason, but Osama al-Oz Laden explicitly stated it as one of the reasons. I'm just, I'm not saying that's not blaming Israel for 9-11, but that's saying what she is saying here is absolutely

wrong. The idea that they, she's just saying that it's not true. And it was because of radical ideologies. Where do radical ideologies come from? What are they a response to? Yes. Oh my God. That preach hatred and violence suggesting that Israel's self-defense is to blame for terrorism shifts the responsibility

away from the terrorists. This isn't just twisted. It's actually incredibly dangerous. It gives radicals a free pass while shaming Israel for protecting its own people. And here's how the whole segment is. We all know how dangerous free radicals are. Yes, we do. Don't let go. I got her. My What's up in me?

I'm sorry. When Israel says it's over. It ends when Netanyahu says it's over. That's right. Really. It ends when Israel says it ends. How about mentioning the fact that Hamas has rejected dozens of ceasefire offers? No.

It's not a fact. It's not a fact. This war doesn't end because Hamas refuses to stop firing rockets, refuses to stop using civilians as human shields, and refuses to release the innocent hostages. Hamas started this war. And if they wanted to, they could end up. Her eyes are like, it's like the Vince McMahon meme, you know, where he goes from just normally kind of.

To like global, laser ray eyes. Yeah. So like. Zero to Simpson. The ending that video with trying to refute the idea that idea that not Netanyahu could have a ceasefire. at any point that he holds the keys to it. Trying to refute that is hilarious right now on today when a ceasefire is happening.

And it is both United States and Israel who have the power to end this war. It's always been the case. Hamas has agreed to multiple different frameworks and it has been rejected by Israel every single time. And in fact, the ceasefire, someone read the ceasefire terms very closely. Yes. I forget who it was, but DropSight reported it.

Yeah, Jeremy Schaul, I believe. The, the, and, and, uh, Mohamed Shadha, I think. Uh, and, and the terms of the ceasefire are almost verbatim exactly what they were back in May. Yes. Uh, from Ska Hill, he, he quoted, important to note the Gaza quote ceasefire deal, uh, that may be reached. This was tweeted a couple days ago, uh, is, uh, overwhelmingly. overwhelmingly consistent with the deal Hamas officials Hamas officially agreed to on July 2nd

Biden allowed Netanyahu to torch that deal and continue the genocide with a steady flow of U.S. weapons and political support. This is like this is just the facts and the truth is this ceasefire was one that Ishma Hanaya was working on when he was assassinated this is Hamas' political leader, he was assassinated in Iran trying to get this deal done and then ever since that excuse man oh the dog ate my homework oh I got blown up by I got blown up by an Israeli drone the dog ate my homework and my

entire body and then also a small office in Tebron yeah that fucking crazy dog that's hungry someone should have fed that dog um but yeah it's uh you know this is a deal that is essentially almost the exact same deal that's was floated in July and it just did not happen. In fact, as soon as the assassination happened, we just didn't hear anything about a ceasefire for like months and months up until Trump won. And then all of a sudden it became a priority.

And anyways, the point is that video was... And Ben Givir and Ben Givir has been boasting, oh, I've been blocking this thing for political reasons for a year. Yes. Ben Gavir admits to preventing Haashter's deal on numerous occasions. I mean, this is just it's been so well documented

that, you know, people, they can still make videos and people go like, yeah, what she said, that's right. Anyways, the point is, is that she's wrong and we're right and I am very hopeful, if not a little bit cynical and skeptical, but hopeful.

that there is a ceasefire. Let's enjoy the relief and let's send a lot of love and hope and good vibe. And celebration while it can last. Yes. And sending good vibes to you, Mr. Watts, Mr. Reggie Watts. The fact that you would come on this podcast is means a world to us. Thank you so much for doing it. I'll come back anytime.

You guys are awesome to talk to you. Oh, you are. You are. Where can people find your work online? In the city of Reggie Watts. I would say... I never seen someone do an auto soon with... That was a good Roger Chapman impression.

Yeah, or that was a vocoder. You did like a vote coder without a vocoder. Wild. You know, you got to pass the time. You're very talented. That's all I'm sure. You have past the time. Hell, yeah.

Do you have a website? I don't, I mean, I think I do have a website, but I don't know if it works anymore, but I think it was being worked on. But, yes, you can find me on Instagram at Reggie Watts. You can find me on, I don't really do Twitter anymore, but I do, my Twitter is at Reggie Watts. TikTok is at Reggie Watts, 23, I think. And so, you know, everyone's just going to switch to VPN. So I don't know why everyone's tripping. Yeah, but, uh, it sounds like, stupid.

It's just like what they did with the porn shit, you know, in certain states. Like, well, you can't, if you're not over 18, you can't access this or whatever, the age thing. And then people are just like VPN. Okay. Back to the thing. Like, what the fuck? Anyways. Yeah.

Yeah. They find me there. And then I have music on all the streaming things. And I have a Christmas record that I released. Like last Christmas got like three songs on it. And, yeah. So there's like all kinds of stuff. Yeah.

Stuff's on vinyl too. Yeah. So most of the things, if anything I release on Brain Feeder generally is on vinyl. I don't know if the Christmas record would be on vinyl, although it would be cool if there was a 45 because that would be such a perfect 45. But, yeah, that's there. And oh, and then I have a comedy special on Veepes called Nevermind that you can watch. And I have a book out, autobiography out, to check that out. It's just called Great Falls, Montana, the title of it.

Oh, yeah. And then. Is that where you're from? yeah you're from montana that's so amazing yeah yeah yeah the greatest of falls i'm from from all those places where people fall yeah um that's amazing yeah so that yeah that stuff and i have i have i have a podcast eventually too that's gonna hell yeah i think it's i think it's just going to be called the reggie show that's good good title i like it well do you guys like it i mean you know it's your reggie and it's your show you could also call it reggie side

which also means the killing of king. Oh, to kill a king. That's good. That's right. To kill a king. Yeah. Oh, that's sick. That's sick.

Welcome to the regicide. Yeah. Well, we'll have links to all of that in the description. But once again, Reggie Watts. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much reporting for duty. Always available for you. Patreon.com slash badhasbara.

Badhasbara at gmail.com. Email us with your questions, comments, or concerns. We'll read them. someday. All right, everyone. Thanks again so much for listening. And until next time. I'm going to let Reggie do this one. Reggie, all you have to do is make this rhyme. Okay. Go ahead, Matt. Okay. From the river to the sea. Palestine will be. Free, free falling.

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