Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 89: Orange You Sad? with Francesca Fiorentini

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by spouse of a most moral cohost Francesca Fiorentini, host of the Bitchuation Room, to discuss Trump’s imagined Gaza, an iron-lion-zion(ist), and an online redhead fetish that’s depraved, but not in the regular way.Matt and Francesca will be at the Sacramento Punch Line on March 16th! Buy tickets now! livemu.sc/4jS1qKfCome see Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini do stand up at Cobbs Comedy Club in San Francisco on May 7th. Tickets here: https://www.livenation.com/event/G5vYZb0MwzkkR/francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-liebPlease donate to Palestine Red Crescent Society: palestinercs.orgSupport the Bitchuation Room at https://www.patreon.com/bitchuationroomWatch America Unhinged at https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhHpnycGpC8QlzYXRjh0P1JzjkfGRVAMS&si=vpBBC84QVAMhoHWGSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id1721813926Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Life costs for us. Zabrahamas. As far as us. Hello, everyone, and welcome to Bad Hasbara. The world's most moral podcast. My name is Matt Lebe. I'm your world's most moral co-host. I'm Daniel Matte.

I'm your other most moral co-host. I'm not sure what's so funny. But apparently, Matt's in a jocular mood today. I'm in a very jocular mood. For those of you who are listening and not watching, first of all, what are you doing? Go to YouTube and subscribe to our YouTube channel. And those who are watching and not listening, what are you doing? Listen to this podcast instead.

Whatever you're doing, you're doing it wrong. Stop doing it. I'm trying to get them to switch. So for those you who are just listening, it looks like Mr. Mate is wearing a lot of Red. You are in an orange. You are all orangeed out. And I think I, uh, huh, I think I already know what you're doing, which is, um, Orange Dan bad. Orange Dan is bad. Um, Alexa, Studio Light Orange. No, we can't. Thank God. That's as good as you guys can do with Orange. Listen, we, we don't. I'm not, I'm not buying it. I, I, I heard.

hurt. I mean, and I was going to play it off. I was going to try to play it cool, casual as if I just happened to end up. Of course, it takes a certain amount of deliberation to have all the, all the records behind me have orange in them and have this orange tarp. That took work. Yes, it did. You look like you're wearing a squirrel tail, like, like you're a mascot, like working at a Hasbara theme park. You are. Well, the squirrel part I get, Hasbara, I don't know what you're talking about. I just woke up one morning. And all my social media feeds informed me in various ways for reasons I didn't quite understand that if I wanted to be a moral member of the human race and good standing who cares about human life. Humanity. Yes. You know, this was the color, apparently. This is the color

that represents the human beings we're supposed to care about. Yes, yes. I'll be damned if I'm not going to be seen as a humanitarian. As humanitarian, yes, you are good. I am wearing like a great, like a black thing. So I'm bad. And I'm next to someone else who is also bad, who I'm introducing early because she's literally right next to me. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else,

welcome to the podcast, the host of the Bituation Room and my life, Francesca Fiorentini. How you doing? Good. I feel this orange is too yellow and now I'm just too much yellow on me. It's a lot of yellow going. How about let's try this. Alexa, Studio Red. Oh, there we go. Okay, that works. That works. Actually, kind of orangey from here. It is kind of orangey. Thank you for having me. Finally, God, your bookers were really reticent. Yeah, sorry, we kept pushing you back just because we just kept having other guests that were more important. and my wife, but then I realized my wife is my life. That's what I realized. A new revolution.

Yes. Yes, we are wearing, we have an orange background, and you are wearing orange because we are going to be talking about a specific orange subject matter today. And caveat, before we start, this is very specifically about- Oh, let's explain the comedy now. Let's explain the satire. Let's make sure people don't misunderstand and get offended. I'm just saying this is a podcast about Israeli Hezbara,

and we're going to be talking about Orange Hezbarra today. But before we do that, we are first going to say, hey, did you know that Francesca and I will be at the Sacramento Punchline on March 16th at 7 p.m.? So please, buy tickets. It's in the show notes. Also, we're going to be at Cobbs Comedy Club in San Francisco. That's right. Mm-hmm.

And that is on May 6th. Wednesday, May 7th. Wednesday, May 7th. Yeah, that'll be great. So Bay Area come through. Cobbs is big. So bring all of your family and friends. Bring everyone over the age of 18.

Yes. And we're excited to see you there. Yeah, it's going to be really fun. You can buy your tickets to that now. So if you're someone who's in San Francisco and was like, I was going to go to Sacramento, hey, maybe go to the San Francisco Cobbs show. instead, or go to both. Go to both. And today, our

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is guided by the Geneva Conventions and the movement's fundamental principles, humanity, impartiality, neutrality, independence, voluntary service, unity, and universality. You can donate right now at Palestine rcs. C-R-S. No, is it?

Yeah. R-C-R-C-S. I'm sorry. I'm small. Palestine R-C-S dot org. Let me host my show. You know, we're not generally fans of conventional thinking on this podcast, but the Geneva Conventions are conventions that would be nice if we could, you know,

retain in this world it is one of my favorite conventions next to like comic con that's a good convention um narcotics anonymous uh world convention that's always fun that's you know once a year um but this is probably it's probably my favorite is my favorite convention um and yes so donate there also donate patreon.com slash bad hasbarra daniel we have a very special what's the spin because we have a uh orange color palette going on can you tell us what's the spin sure but first i got to say people who go to bad hasbara at a patreon dot com slash bat has barra they're not donating all right they're investing they're purchasing they are investing in themselves it's self-care it's not about us that's right that's right because what

they get they get extra slop they get they get free they get they get they get early releases they early slop early slop extra slop um you know they early access to tickets for things correct um yeah It's really, it's an investment in yourself. It's an investment yourself, exactly. Now, in terms of what the spin is, again, look, I just pick things off the shelf randomly, as you can see. So here's a really great album called Freetown Sound by Singer-Songwriter Devon Hines, also known as Blood Orange. Okay, okay, I like it. A record from the 80s by the British group XTC, Oranges and Lemons.

I love it. I love it. Um, for no particular reason, uh, Channel Orange by Frank Ocean. Oh, I was, I was wondering if you were going to do that. Yeah. And then, uh, you know, it can't all be one, it can't all be monochrome, right? So sure. Green by R.A.M.

Okay. Featuring the single, Orange Crush. You still got it in there. Uh, those are all, those are all great. I mean, great choices all around. Turns out orange, um, is the, um, is the, the new black. I don't know what I'm saying. Orange is a new black soundtrack probably should be in there

if they make a vinyl out of it. If they have a soundtrack. The animals, the animals. Yeah, that's right. Is that from that? Yeah, it's the song. Shout out to my Instagram friend, Laura Gomez, who is a big pro-Palestine celebrity actress who was on Orange's of the New Black. Oh, hell yeah. I love that. I love when there's a Hollywood person who is pro-Palestine,

and we will be getting into a little bit of that today as well. But we got to talk about orange. Is there a helicopter? We shouldn't have done this orange. That's on my end. Let me close my window. Oh, is that your, okay. No, there's one here too.

No, there's one here too. Oh, shit. Oh, fuck. It's Mossad. It's Mossad. They don't think your background is sufficiently orange. Yeah. Oh, this is fine.

Don't worry about the sound. It sounds good to me. All right. And that is a car. Broom, brum. So. Wait, is there going to be any anti-Ginger hate in this episode? No.

No, there's going to be, I think, a cynical amount of pro-Ginger love in this episode. Because I want everyone to know, Matt, you are, are you technically a ginger, do you think? Yeah, I'm ginger on my mom's side, so that means I'm full ginger. Okay. Yeah. You know what they call ginger in Israel, in Hebrew? What do they call it? Gingy.

Gingy. It sounds like a slur, and I bet it's meant as such. Definitely. Knowing Israeli. Only if you say it with a hard juh. Yeah, yeah. They definitely, they've racialized it. Now, this is something that for the last week or so,

we've been hearing a lot about the deaths of the Israeli, captives in Gaza, the Bebas family. And that's Kaffir, Ariel, and Shiri. And Shiri Bibbas. And whose deaths we are 100% not mocking. No, 100% not mocking. It is, you know, a tragedy is a tragedy. Death is death, especially for non-combatants. And especially for children. Kidnapping kids. It's kidnapping kids and 100% you know loss is lost and and I think what has been uh ever since it was um officially announced because this was something that was known uh in November late November of 2023 uh it was reported um that Hamas had come out and said hey uh the Bivas family was killed in Israeli air strikes and they were trying as early as then to give them their

body backs as part of a trade for, you know, a ceasefire and whatnot, which the Israeli government ignored multiple times. They just ignored this, you know, this report. They ignored the request to trade the bodies. And they wanted to have nothing to do. with it. This is from November 29th, 2003. Hamas says 10-month-old hostage, Kaffir Beavis was killed in an Israeli bombing. But that didn't stop the posters all over the Upper West Side with these kids. Yes. Faces bring them home. They've been sort of some of the most recognizable names. I would say Kaffir Bebas has been the sort of the face.

in a way of the, you know, sadly of the genocide. The amount of propaganda featuring this 10-month-old baby has been atrocious. I mean, we've seen it. The face of the genocide rationale. Yes, exactly. The face of the genocide rationale. And that's kind of what this entire thing is. And it's one of the reasons why when this started being reported, I was really holding my tongue because it's like, on the one hand I'm trying to like you know as someone who has we have a child uh as someone with a child it's like the last thing I want to do is start immediately talking about the death of a child in some you know crass political terms um and then watching what has happened since um has been really really disgusting in in ways that in ways in which I can't keep my mouth shut the way

In ways in which the deaths of this family has been used by Israel and, you know, not just the government, but also like Zionists, not just in Israel, but in America, has been so disturbing and infuriating that it's made me, it's, it's made you see orange. Yes, it made me see orange. I mean, and I think that what's crazy about it is, well, November. was already the time when we were seeing, you know, Palestinian babies dead in their parents' arms. And, you know, the propaganda was, that's a doll. Literally, people were saying that is not a real baby, that is a doll. So we should never believe our lying eyes. And then, you know, we have these splashes of, yes, this adorable little kid, this baby that was killed by an Israeli strike.

And another thing we know about Israeli strikes is that they don't have to be necessarily targeted that house or that person for a 10-month-old to die of shock, to die of the, you know, the whatever residual impacts of a strike. And on top of it, it was an Israeli strike. Like, yes. So all of it is bad faith. All of it is absolutely weaponizing, you know, our, you know, seeing a baby, but also prising one baby over the next.

And a month into the genocide, it was like, this is very clear which babies were supposed to care about. Yes, yes. Yeah, pressing one baby over the next 10,000. Right. Exactly. Right. And I think that that is what has, that is what's driven me crazy recently is the fact that like we are immediately back to this, you know, fake Israeli and pro-Israel and Zionist hand-wringing of just like, where's your humanity when it comes to, you know, the Bebas family where you are seeing people reusing the lines from early.

October, you know, from back when October 7th, 2023, when that first happened, it was a lot of where's your humanity, where's your humanity over and over and over again. At the same time as where's your humanity right in parallel with, you know what, I just lost my humanity. I just like like I've had it with this humanity shit. I've seen enough. It's time to wipe them all out. There's no humans there and there's no time for humans.

sentiment. Where is your humanity that you don't understand that my humanity has to be composted or, you know, trash compacted right now? And we have to wipe out this entire millions of people population. Yes. Yeah. And it's been, you know, like, it's been the same thing. I mean, now for like 16 months where we have just been, you're both simultaneously scolded for having no humanity and scolded for not understanding that sometimes trauma makes it so you can't have humanity and and it's obviously incredibly schizophrenic in terms of like the has bar or even or even to quote something i forget what it is maybe we have this later on i forget i've read so many ridiculous horrendous things this week they're all blurring in my head but hate is a jewish

value too apparently oh yes yes yeah i think that was what was that tablet was that tablet yeah that was a tablet yeah proudly this is this is not antisemitic this is an actual proud okay Yeah, like a time for hate. You know, like, to everything, turn, turn, turn. A time to bomb the shit out of children. A time to strafe their bodies with white phosphorus. Burn, burn, burn, burn, exactly. To everything, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn.

Oh, very nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we need to harmonize on that. You guys need a whole album, honestly. We do. I don't know what you get. what you're doing what we got to do it we got to do it um powers combined yeah first a live show then an album yes yes yes yes yes yes one thing at a time um but yeah so it this was um obviously

something that i think anyone who has been paying attention knew that one way and the other the bibis family was killed and the reason why we knew that is not just because like oh hamas said so or whatever. It's because why would they say so if they didn't mean it? You know what I mean? It was like clear that they were dead. Now the question was, of course, when they come back, what is going to be the reason for their demise? Why the fuck would Hamas keep all these random adults alive? And most of them in relatively very good condition. Right. Yeah. And we'll get to Israel's new claims about now how how the Beavis kids died.

Yes. But why would they do that and murder two of their most valuable bargaining chips? Yes. And announce it early on. Yes. Yes. It makes no sense Or even Offer the Bodies is a weird one too. Right. Why would you, it says, okay, I can immediately prove this

and a little bit of a like you deserve to have these people back. right like I don't you know that just seems weird to me and they're you know they're still of course because they are you know took hostages the point of hostages is of course for them to trade them as bargaining chips but they were and had been offered it was on the table it was been on the table since November late November 23 so it was clear to anyone uh who was paying attention that these this child was dead that this family was dead

and yet I knew and there was a video of the father which we shouldn't take at face value of course of course any video of a captive pleading with their own side

you know I think it's fair enough to take it with at least a grain of salt but in it he said Netanyahu you killed my family this is from a long time ago I forget when it was released Yardin Biabus right

the father. That's right. Yeah. Who has been released. Yes. And, you know, so to me, the point of all of this was made obvious by the way in which the lead up to the release of the news about whether this family was alive or dead was kind of like presented in the Israeli PR machine in the Hasbara machine. Because before it was released, there was a bunch of Hasbara we're doing this thing where they would just be like, ooh, they better still be alive. This is some random as far as, the Beba's children and the mother better be alive.

And then, you know, this was Alon Levy. An entire nation, united in love for a baby. A few of us have ever met. But we all desperately hope is still alive. And then another Alon Levy. Where are they? This is all a few days before the announcement of their death. the official announcement of their death,

because again, November, 2023, it was announced they were dead. And I knew- Ayn Levy knows full while they're dead. Of course. Of course they know this. And to me, I was like, this is all giving me

beheaded babies energy. Oh, strongly. Like this, it was just clear from the beginning that, you know, the way that they were using this, the timing of it. Everything has to do with this drip, drip, drip, drip, of trauma that they do in order to continue to manufacture consent

for the death and destruction that they are going to reap upon Gaza. I was thinking about the phrase manufacturing consent when it comes to Israelis. I don't think it's sufficient. It's manufacturing demand. They already consent. Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Israel is not like the United States where you have a sort of indifferent population that's grum, that if you let them know what their government's doing across the world, they might grumble, hey, why isn't that money going to our infrastructure, our jobs, you know, a population that you don't want to get restive about the oligarchy's priorities in the military industrial complex.

That makes sense in the Western liberal democracy model that Chomsky and Herman were writing about when they wrote manufacturing. When it comes to Israel, the consent is already there. Like, you know, get rid of them. Please get rid of the Palestinians. But it's about manufacturing the bloodlust and the hunger and the urgency and the demand. Let's do it now. Now is the time.

The drip, drip, drip of trauma is so perfect because, I mean, there's propaganda for every flavor, you know, every person who is looking at the story. Yeah, it's either, you know, you want the bloodlust or the like the, yeah, the, don't you, you know, the humanity. That's why I must get rid of my humanity. And I'm no longer a liberal who believes in it. international law and like this is all it's all okay to do that um yeah this is i think for me um you know i i agree completely daniel about like israeli society in terms of like they've already consented it's just a question of do they have the stomach for it and israel likes to and they expect that don't wouldn't you expect if you're sort of all in this collective psychosis that your

government would give you more and more reason to keep believing in said collective psychosis i mean Yeah. Like all nations are a certain amount of collective psychosis, but Israel definitely takes the cake. And so it's like, I do think they expect that, right? I think they expect that. Not everyone, but some are like, so they can keep believing in the lie. Right. Believing in this case.

Believing. Don't stop believing. Don't stop believing. What's it? Amazing how you just speak here. Yeah, it's crazy. It's just right there. It's crazy like that.

No, but beyond that, it's like, you know, while in Israel that might be the case, I do think that what drives me fucking nuts is the American Zionist community, the American liberal Zionist community and institutional Jewish community. For them, I do, I agree that they also may have, like, already have consent about it. But to be honest, I do believe that the majority of Hasbara that we have, you know, directed here at Jews in the West is less about that and more about having them continued to consent through their silence, through their ability to compartmentalize anything that has to do with Israel as, well, that's another thing and they should be allowed to do it.

So like any momentum that any American liberal who is a Zionist, whether Jewish or not, had towards like maybe because Trump is in office maybe you know this is a different you know thing it's a little bit more safe to criticize Israel because it's Trump doing it and not a Democrat doing it any momentum they had towards that they were like it was a perfect way of kind of dispersing that and watering it down and going like no no no no no just remember to keep that anger to keep that that traumatic fight or flight response within you

you have to remember that Israel has to do what it has to do no matter what so you may hate Trump but hey hey hey don't you speak out yet don't you speak out

just give it a few more months just a few more months and that's what drives me fucking crazy because at this point I'm just like y'all want to be lied to

you all want to kill Palestinians whether you fucking admit to it or not the fact that you're going to you're going to immediately just lap up this fucking fake slop that they just put out in order to get you to lose your own humanity it's just insane it's insane to me yeah it's also a way to you know you got this week there was the i mean i'm excited for the end of the story because i need to hear more but you got the you know the hamas kiss the not the Hamas kiss, the hostages kiss of the Hamas soldier.

So, you know, it's a very important time to counter those images with some other propaganda. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, so to continue with the story, this all came out and immediately it was a question of like, okay, so what happened? And of course, as we all knew would happen, the Israelis sent out our boy, friend of the pod, Daniel Hagari, to come on and talk about the situation of their death, how exactly they died. And I have the clip of that. This was within about 24 hours of receiving the bodies. Yes, yes. Within 24 hours, this is the video that they did. Danielle Hagari, if you don't remember him, I believe he went into a hospital, looked at a calendar and said it was a list of hostages. Yeah, that was fun. This is a guy. Of course you

remember him. This is a guy who famously lies about everything. And of course, this time is different. This time, he's got the truth. Ariel and Kfir were not killed in anirstrike. Ariel and Kfir Bibas were murdered by terrorists in cold blood. The terrorist did not Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You said they weren't killed in an air strike. Yeah. What's the difference? Between that and cold blood? Between being murdered by terrorists in cold blood. That's exactly what an Israeli airstrike is. That's right. This is a good point. Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's what we said. You haven't contradicted shit. Yeah, that's what we said, Daniel. Cold blood. The terrorist did not shoot the two young boys.

they killed them with their bare hands afterwards they committed horrific acts to cover up these atrocities and then we're supposed to believe that afterwards they also then immediately told the Israeli government hey these

this family was killed in an airstrike and we have just covered they have just covered it up and rather than they were Hamas was so disappointed that Israel didn't, didn't receive their prank on time. Yeah, exactly. I mean, fucking.

And now, what condition are these fucking corpses in? I don't know. Like, what happens to a body that's been kept in? Exactly. I was just thinking that. Like, what are you received? What remains are you receiving? Like, let's get real specific.

Is it more than a skeleton? Right. Okay. Yeah. So how, how do you know? I mean, that's, how are you doing it? What's an accurate autopsy? 100%.

Yeah. No. And I don't know. It's also, it's very Trumpian Israel's propaganda because, you know, Trump's always like, and by the way, I never slept with the point starting. Like, bitch, nobody's talking about that anymore. Yeah. Like, yeah, but I'm just telling you. And it's like, you could just do the propaganda, talk about, you know, the beautiful child with the red hair and move on. And no one, like, no one's remembering exactly what the story was. It doesn't matter. They were taken hostage and they died in while in, you know, you know, while being held hostage, you don't have to then come on and dress and be like, by the way, we didn't have anything to do with it. That gets a fucking dead giveaway that you absolutely did. Yes. And, and, you know, so again, it's like, just don't mention it. Well, I mean, that is, that's the perfect distillation of Hezbara.

Like, Israeli propaganda is always, uh, Doth protesting too much. Like, every, everything they're doing is, is constantly this thing of like, you already, have an attack that happened on October 7. Right. You don't need to make up claims about beheaded babies and mass mass rapes. Like people were already like damn, a terrorist attack. Exactly. But and even if your army bombed them, if we take the context of what the bombing was. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. When Hasbarists say that Hamas is responsible for the deaths of those kids, that they abducted, there's some moral, taken in isolation, there's some moral validity to that. Yes.

At the very least, people will buy it. Right. Yeah. You know? And that's the thing is like, it's this overselling. And especially like saying something like, you know, they were not shot. They were killed with their bare hands where you go like, okay, so now I'm really like confused here. You mean they choked out the baby?

Do you mean they punched it? And rather than explaining to that degree, they're just going to leave it to the imagination so that everyone else will do the horrific job of trying to guess how children died. Matt, do you have my McNulty tweet? Yeah, hold on. Let me see if I got it somewhere.

Well, we don't have to guess how children died. I mean, in the last year, we've seen probably the most horrific, ways that children die in Gaza by cutting off the electricity to the generators that are keeping their incubators on. Like, we don't have to imagine all the ways that babies are dying in the womb, out of the womb, right now currently dying by frostbite because of the cold and the refusal of Israel to actually make good on these ceasefire promises. I mean, what's so sick about it again, it's the most projection ever because we've,

seen the insane and by the dozens all the ways that young, young lives are taken. Yeah, but if those deaths are not announced by a stern, skinny-looking man in camouflage in front of a dark blue background and two Israeli flags, then that's not official. Very well-lit. He also, like, continues on. I want to just play this one part because it's incredibly, like, revealing of, um, I just of the way in which the, no matter their attempts to try to sound like they have the moral authority, they can't help, but be racist. So this is about, and we talked about this a little bit with the, I think we talked about this with Laura, but this idea that like, you know, the Hamas sent the wrong body.

and we're still I'm still unclear about what exactly happened here but here's the way he friends up. The body that Hamas falsely claimed was Shiri was not hers and not of any other hostage. Instead, Hamas sent over the body of an anonymous woman.

This is a further evidence of Hamas barbaric cruelty. So I just want to point out through the power of deduction. So if the body is not shiris and the body is not any of the Israeli hostages, by the powers of deduction, we can assume that it was a Palestinian woman or, as the Israelis would say, an anonymous woman. They could have sent, they could have sent away for it from, you know, there's some South

American countries that have some. Right. That's a very interesting. Etsy's, you know. It's true. They could have gotten one from Amazon. I got a nice American, maybe an American woman who was killed. But no, it was like so obvious to me.

I'm just like, okay, so it was a Palestinian woman. Say it. But they can't say that because then it would be like, well, wait, how did a Palestinian woman die? Oh, how did tens of thousands of Palestinians die? What do you think? You know, it's like, so instead it's just like, oh, some anonymous woman, someone who doesn't matter, somebody that we don't give a shit about. I'm surprised they didn't claim.

that the woman herself didn't like that the woman herself how do I say this volunteered to be killed like a suicide prank right that's more honest she signed up for like they paid her family a million dollars yeah yeah to kill her so they could fake shiri bea bus well that's kind of what he's insinuating but for me like if you're going to propagandize to me and maybe I'm not the audience it'd be like you would then say you know, you'd have some empathy for a woman who was dead and humanize her. And we're still

looking for her family and she also. Yeah, we don't know who this is. But you're totally right. It's because if she is Palestinian, which word, they can't say, like, they don't care. Well, right. They're just like, well, this, you know, whether or not, I don't know what happened with this body. I don't know what the situation surrounding it. But they did get Sherry's body than a couple of days later. Yes, they did get Cherie's body. And Hamas made a statement saying, if there was a mix-up,

send us back the body. Right. Again, I don't know how the fuck they've been, like, what their library card system is for categorizing and filing bodies. Yes, yeah. Most of which are under rubble.

Yeah. Sorry, the Jew, the Jewy decimal system. I'm sorry. You've been Daniel-brained. You've been Daniel killed. I'm going to say that's, that's Adam braimed. I'm not going to take credit. That's, that's, that's an atom coded joke.

That's great. The dewy decimal system. For those you who don't get it, Dewey Decimal System is the pun. Explaining the comedy. Remember when we had to learn that? But yeah, so, I mean, it is, it is like, you know, to me, it's these like little hints, as if we needed any hints,

but it's these little hints of, like, the constant dehumanization. of these people, these anonymous people who don't matter. Bare hands, too. You know what that means? It means there was skin-to-skin contact between those animals and our milky white little carrot cakes. Yes, yes. Now I want carrot cake.

Yeah. And I have to point out, and we've talked about this a little bit, but like this whole, you know, We brought up the redness, the milky whiteness. I mean, is that not the point of this red-headed Hasbara thing? Like this constant, this orange color palette that we're doing, you know, because to me, it's like what is a ginger evoke and what it evokes to, I think? Is whiteness? is a very, you know, porcelain skin, freckley skin, whiteness, you know, pale, milky, white skin.

And, and, you know, it just shows the sort of racial dynamic, as if there aren't red-headed Palestinians, by the way. I mean, it's fucking ridiculous. There are. I mean, one of the- picture of a young girl with red hair who was killed early in the genocide. Yeah. And then also, I mean, you know, oh my God, I'm forgetting her name. The one Dina did a book with. Oh, oh, yeah. I had Tamimi. Yeah, yeah, I had Tamimi, Red Hat. I mean, you know.

Oh, yeah. That was part of what stood out about her, right? Isn't that, I mean, and again, like, not to play into it because she's amazing. I had so amazing and so brave and really used the fact that she had this like wild mane of blonde hair and was like, you know, stepping to a soldier to her advantaged. But it's really fucked that like so many people, you know, in the U.S. were paying attention finally because it was like, oh, this amazing, like beautiful blonde hair, blue-eyed. Palestinian, you know.

And it's like... There's white Palestinians? Exactly, exactly. And of course, when when Palestinians look like that, Zionists love to be like, who's indigenous to this land? And then we'll show you a picture of an Ethiopian Jew or a Mizrahi Jew. Speaking of Ethiopian Jews, did you know that there was an Ethiopian Jewish guy who'd been held in Gaza for the last 10 years and was released last week?

Yes. I had never heard of him before. And all of a sudden, my feet is full of... Zinist being like, say his name. Right. And there was this crazy story. It was this mentally unwell guy who like climbed the fence and ended up in Gaza. Oh, that's a great story.

That's wild. And I don't see, I don't see Israel, you know, waving flags and letting balloons go the color of his. Yeah, everything should be brown. Dark chocolate scale. I mean, I wouldn't put it past them. They probably aren't doing it mostly because they did spend the last 10 years trying, being like we don't care we won't trade anything for him they didn't that's what they they

didn't want they didn't want him back um and yeah but just like this red-headed um propaganda to me has been so infuriating it's it's just been disgusting i mean you see like everything orange this is uh you know uh the official twitter account of israel with a uh broken uh orange heart And then, of course, they've changed the Israeli flag to be orange themed. Sheary, Kaffir, Ariel, you know, it says right there. And then, you know, you've got this fucking tweet. All right. So this is from Israel's official account.

They posted this. We see you in every redheaded child. Well, not every redheaded child. Once again, there are Palestinian redheads. We see you when we watch Harry Potter, Ron Weasley. we see you when we watch when we watch the sandlot yeah we see you when we

every time we watch a movie starring Yahoo Sirius we see you in Chucky one Chucky one child's play when ever we watch a carrot top comedy special we see you

in the seasons of short times, Dex there. Dex there is also redhead. Life goes on. Corky. Don't forget. In both Heli Arr and Helena Egan. Helly Rich.

Yes. We see you. There's definitely a massive like Severn slash Israeli propaganda crossover episode. You guys just need to like. Oh, we've been bringing it in. I took Matt to the break room a few weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. I was forced to apologize. And I don't think he meant it.

I didn't. In every fiery sunset, in every orange balloon that drifts towards the sky, what? Shiri, Kaffir, and Ariel, we will never forget you, heart, heart, heart. May their memory be a blessing. Once again, I need to point out, before we continue, that what I'm laughing at and what we are laughing at is, this brazen, disgusting propaganda that is meant to continue the bloodshed of

thousands, tens of thousands of children who will continue to die. Yeah, and that's what they mean by may their memories be a blessing. May their memories be giving us the blessing to continue this shit. That's exactly right. Yes, 100%. All right. And so here is

the video that accompanied this. It's AI, isn't it? A. Mother. Of course. little boys kidnapped. We prayed, we begged, but Hamas didn't release them. Hamas murdered them. A few verbs missing there. We prayed, we begged.

What other actions did we take? Yeah. We ignored. Yeah, what's another bee? We murdered. From today, every redhead will remind us. Jesus Christ. Hamas murdered them, and Hamas will do it again, unless it's wiped out.

So, I mean, I think nothing is more clear than that as in terms of like, what this is for, what this is all about. And it's about this fucking using these children once again to continue killing people, to continue killing. Even now. It's wiping out the Palestinian people. It's just so, like, it's brazen to me. Like, I truly, I wish I was still in touch with all of my liberal Zionist friends to be like, does this still work on you? Because, you know what I mean? Like, are connected to some sort of like, you know, a lie detector.

Right. But like, you know, Hasbara is really to detect her to be like how much palpitations. Because this is really the line that like my friend's, one friend in particular was like, Hamas will kill your child. Yeah, literally. Named her by name. And I was like, excuse fucking you. Yeah. And that's what this is.

This is basically like they'll do it again. They'll do it to your children. They're coming for you. They're monsters. They're animals. And this is why the, you. you know, what are we at, 45,000 as the most conservative.

But even maybe up to 100,000 innocent people's lives and counting. Like, that's worth it. Yeah. Is this still working on you? It's about children, right? That was the whole thing. It had to be about children. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, the whole bare hands thing was just so, it was very beheaded babies. It was like, you know, You have to remember that these are animals that... They did not wash their hands. Well, that's what's crazy about the beheaded babies is like, they don't care about these people, so I just want to say, we can say this.

But you're almost surprised that they didn't, like, get the body back and we're like, look, the head fell off because they beheaded them. Like, how do they reverse engineer that the beheaded babies actually happened? I know. I know. It's always surprising to me that the lengths they'll go and the lengths that they won't go. You know what I mean? Like. Right, exactly. Just plan something.

Just plan something. Yeah, plant something. Exactly. But yeah, it is, you know, and in terms of like, you know, the response to this by the Beba's family, I think it says a lot. I think it says a whole lot. This is from DropSite. The Beba's family sent a cease and desist letter yesterday to Netanyahu and other government offices asking that they stop publishing. details of the death of Shiri, Ariel, and Kfir Bivas. If I could say one thing to everyone on behalf of the Bebas family, just shut up, wrote Afri Bibis, aunt of the deceased kids. She said authorities were yet to complete and share their report on the deaths of the three family members. Israeli journalists and government officers have been accused of using the family's

plight for propaganda. You don't say. I should own. I should own. that when this aunt says telling everyone to shut up, that would include us. And we're not, and we are not doing that in this episode. Yeah. With all these visual gags and all of this dark humor. So, you know, I'll own that, you know, if I'm going to. But she hasn't written a cease and desist letter to Bad Hasbara.

Now that might be coming. But she straight up had to write a cease and assist letter to the fucking government to say, please stop using the death, which is still being investigated, and I still haven't gotten report for all of your propagandistic purposes. Yeah. So, yeah, she is every right, but no, you guys are not and we are not the fucking state of Israel. Yeah,

at least not yet. We're still waiting for that one day. Yeah. But yeah, no, I mean, just like I can't imagine what it would be like to be a member of the Bebas family at a time when everyone is just like, oh, we're going, it's all orange this season

and, you know, it's all red and orange in, in terms of, you know, trying to continue this fucking bloodletting, to continue this genocide, to continue the appetite of the Israeli people and of American Zionists and the Jewish institutional community in America to continue being like, we are morally correct and right and justified in continuing this genocide, in allowing Trump and allowing the Israeli government to do the NACBA part two. Do we have that cease and desist letter?

Yes, yes, right here. Yeah, so this is just one little clip of it. The Grayzone posted this, and this was the part that really stood out to me. Therefore, and although this is an auto translation from the Hebrew, and although this is ostensibly the, quote, time of opportunity for achieving educational goals, it should be noted that the top priority

is the family's well-being, dignity, and privacy. that's a nice way of saying look we get it this is your Hasbara moment right but think about us put it back up for a sec although it is surprising that it is necessary to request and emphasize this underlined we ask once again and in every language of request that all parties who have an interest in the matter be instructed especially at this difficult time not to contact the family nor to speak with any professional party entrusted with conducting the investigations regarding the circumstances of the murder and the condition of the deceased, and this before the Bebas family holds the funeral and the oath taking receives the report from the Institute of Forensic

Medicine, which will be submitted for further review, et cetera, et cetera. We further request that all necessary measures be taken to prevent the dissemination of publications and quote-unquote news regarding the circumstances of the murder of the Bebas family members regarding their condition and regarding the examinations. So it's totally unambiguous. Stop. Stop. lying about how they were killed yeah yeah yeah stop lying about it stop speculating about it and and and I mean like I was saying before this is this is the point of Hagarie's press conference is to leave you with no other choice but to speculate if you're interested you know if you're sitting watching it you're going this guy is saying Hamas murdered a family with their

bare hands you can't help but asked a follow-up question, what does that mean? How? What are you talking about? He specifically points out not a gun is what he says specifically. I don't know if you saw. There was a tweet that someone posted some Zionist with like the alarm alert emoji being like, be careful, be precise.

Hagari said with bare hands. He did not say strangled. Stick to the official story. Yeah, right. You know, and I tweeted like, alert, be precise. stick to authorize lies do not improvise we have professionals making these things up yes so then your mind starts to like wander even further like oh they definitely like thwapped him against a wall like I'm just like that's what they want they want your mind they want to implant

infinite recursive algorithm in your mind that can produce any number of ways in fact that way the be best killed were be best kids were killed millions of times over in the minds of the millions who were imagining it and that maybe is the I mean I've never thought this before but maybe that's the sort of the angle let let let us create the scenes of death in our heads right right you fill in the blanks with the worst possible thing that you are predisposed to think about Palestinians and their ability to enact cruelty upon children so whatever you're thinking yes that's what happened whatever we have to get you to think in order to continue

to allow us to do this to tens of thousands of Palestinian children and it's just like you know, again, you know, I hate to keep belaboring this point but man, like the amount of repressed

fury I've had for the last fucking week of just being like I don't want to in any way try to minimize the deaths of this child, these children, this family. And the Israeli government does not give a fuck about that. The Israeli government is like, I don't give, I don't care.

The more you, you know, minimize it, the better for us anyways. Because at the end of the day, they don't care about any children. They don't care whether they're Israeli children or their fucking Palestinian children. They only care about meeting their end goal. Right. And it's also the other thing is like they're also, they can use and weaponize the deaths of these children the way they want to. They can disrespect the wishes of the family the way they want to. But if you use the deaths of these children to make a broader point about occupation, genocide, they should never have been taken in the first place, given the situation, all that the conditions in Gaza, you're the one who's weaponizing and how dare you and you're evil and sick and twisted.

And so they're also kind of waiting for people. I mean, obviously this podcast, but like people to like step out, you know, or say something online that like, yeah, I'm sure Daniel, you took heat for like saying that, you know, stick to the propaganda points that we already know of. And it's like, oh, how could you laugh at these children? It's like, because you guys do it every single day. Yeah. And, you know, you're seeing that, I think, you know, we got to cut to commercial, but just to wrap up, you know, you're seeing that already with, oh, there's a cat. It's not a tabby cat You couldn't have brought an orange cat on today You just go what the fuck shitty, you gotta be orange today With like Ooh, she farted

All right Anyways, point I was going to make Was that you're just Good cover Matt You're seeing this everywhere You know, in terms of like People wearing orange And them wearing orange

Is to tell you to shut your fucking mouth You know Hassan was talking about this In his stream recently the, you know, the Beavis kids and whatnot. And, you know, the ghouls at H3 immediately started saying, you know, oh, it's evil for you to talk about this, to laugh about this. And, of course, Gila, who was serving the IEF, was wearing orange.

Oh, my God. And the cat really did fart. So we're going to, we are going to take a quick commercial break. But when we come back, we will be coming back, even more red. than ever. What? I'm going to let her out. We'll be right back.

And we're back. This is bad ass barrow, World's Most Moral Podcast. I'm here with the World's Most Moral Wife, my wife, Francesca Fiorentini. Hello. How you doing? Fine.

Good, good, good, good, good. And here are. You guys are cute. Are we? Tall and cute. Yeah. We're definitely cute. tall one cute one cute

I remember I remember you as being certainly taller than me Francesca which is not hard to pull off I was there we go because I'm glad you said it not me wait no but how tall are you Francesc I'm 5, 7 and a half

Oh wait a minute okay you're not that tall I was gonna say she's not that tall That's okay that is above average for a woman It is above average for a woman I think of you as statuesque Yes No thank you I will be so Matt and I

Matt is very proportional If you've ever seen a photo of him If you know what I mean No If you know what I mean Nope I know what I mean Nope

Okay And so when I know you mean No When I'm standing next to him In a photo People are like Wow I didn't realize You were like really short

Francesca I didn't realize you were like Five feet And I was fucking no It's just Matt Doesn't look tall In photos Because he looks

He doesn't look lanky He just looks like Normal height And then you meet him And you're like Oh I get it I get it I get it

He's actually a fucking Yeti Yeah People can't really tell from just looking at me. Like you need to like, you need a banana for scale. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you need something for scale.

Sure. Francesca, yeah, if we could see the lower half of you, Francesca is sitting on a bar stool and Matt is sitting cross-legged on the floor. That's right. Exactly. I'm Chris Cross. Our daughter is the size of like a five-year-old already. Yeah.

Yeah. She's a giant. I picked her up the other day. She goes, I'm too heavy. she's right she is way too heavy um so we need to talk about uh some more hasbara and we have it this is uh something that happened recently uh CPAC happened you don't know what CPAC is it is like a what conservative political action committee or whatever um it is like every year um the you know the Republicans and the Nazis all get together and they have like a

a meeting of the minds. Gentlemen, too evil. Yeah, they're glug, glug. They're just drinking blood. Whenever I see Pact, I eat it. Thank you. Thank you, Adam. But let's see.

Yeah, so. CPAC is what conspiracy theorists, hip-hop conspiracy theorists do everywhere. That's right, yeah. They see Pock around every corner. They see Puck, you know, and he's still alive. Still alive. Not notorious P. Don't give CPAC any ideas.

They will bring back the hologram of Tupac. Yeah, they'll make Tupac Sigile. So recently, you know, the CPAC thing happened. And then Bannon, Steve Bannon, who is the guy who used to run Breitbart or something like that. And now he runs the Trump War Room, which is a pot, now he's a podcaster. He was in the first Trump administration. And he is an open fascist, essentially.

And he ended his speech with a, you know, another Nazi salute. Now, this one wasn't full on Elon Musk style. Like he didn't pound the chest. Yeah, he didn't get all neurodivergent with it. But it was very intentional. Oh, yeah. I want to just say, like, it wasn't a goodbye. He even had a little bit more to say after he did it.

So it was very, very intentional. Yeah. And, you know, immediately we had the same discourse as the last time this happened, but with Elon Musk, in which, like, to no one's surprise, all of the pro-Israel, all of the, like, Zionist conservative contributors were all just like, well, you know, listen, some people do, like, things with their hands, and it's not a big deal. What is a big deal is all of these kaffias on college campus. Like, we just, it's just a repeat of the same bullshit where we're, like, meant to, you know, we're meant to, like, not worry.

about any, you know, fascists in the White House as long as they're pro-Israel. And, you know, I think in general the kind of the way in which that has been talked about is kind of gives up the ghost a little bit about what's important to a lot of these, you know, Israelis and Zionists, which is that like, I don't give a shit if you hate, if you guys elected actual Hitler, as long as at the end of the day. we get all of the land I don't give a fuck actual Hitler would be

one of the world's biggest allies of Israel 100% actual Hitler would be like oh all right sick we're in the same boat here buddy

I mean he's the ultimate Nimby when it comes to Jews yes yes completely the lightest thing you could say about him not in my bone yard

no I mean Mike Huckabee is probably going to be confirmed people should still try to speak out against his confirmation. Oh, yeah. But he's a Christian Zionist, and he's all about, I mean, I'm really waiting for this next

plan of Hasbara under, I mean, not Hasbara, but, you know, of the war. Landgrab and the war to involve American Jews, truly. Yeah. These are psychos who believe that all Jews shouldn't be here, and it's the reason that when Trump won the first time, there were people Nazis celebrating not only with Sig Heil's, but I remember, and we cover this for Newsbroke, but Jewish. Jewish headstones were toppled in elation. Yeah.

That is what fucking happened. Yeah. And you're just like, we're, we're supposed to not take this seriously because, you know, because Trump is a friend of Israel. Right. Yeah. It's so sick. And then, you know, I don't know how much you're going to talk about, but, you know,

Barry Weiss is out here pushing her article. Yeah. That came out on the free press. Yeah. Well, this is Hanania's article. This is Richard. Right. Not her article, but Hanania's article.

Right. On her, on her publication. and Hananiah writes, these stiff-armed salutes are not expressions of sincere Nazism, but of an oppositional culture that, like a rebel band

that keeps wearing fatigues after victory, has failed to realize it's no longer in the opposition, which is just a lot of bullshit speak for like, nah, they're just doing memes. Yes.

They're doing memes and they're just trying to troll the lips. Yes, that articles basically they're trying to troll, but that quote is like particularly chilling, like, you know, they're just dressing up and, you know, you know, pretending like, you know, their victory was just, just fresh. And it's like, number one, they lost. The Nazis lost. Yeah, right. But then what does he say at the end there? Sorry. And realize it's no longer

in the opposition, which would purport it, you presume that they're no longer in the opposition, meaning they run shit that the Nazis, you don't even have to Zyghile anymore because you, you've gained control of government. Yeah. I mean, look, I kind of agree. It's not sincere. year full-blown Nazism, it's a bunch of callous, very emotionally immature, assholes with dangerous ideas who think the Nazis are kind of funny, cool, mysterious, alluring something. Right, yeah. And who think that, like, which is enough for me to be like, they're unappetizing folks.

Right. Well, also, there's such a fine line between like the irony and just being irony, And like, aha, we're all doing this for the lulls. And then you're, no, you're actually just Sigai-Ling. Bannon is a Nazi. Well, what, right? And Elon is a Nazi. These two people are definite Nazis.

Right. Maybe the rest of them and the fanboys online. Who knows? No, no, no, no. They're Nazis. But I think the thing is, is they have one thing that makes them go like, how dare you call us Nazis. And it's the same thing that Israelis have, which is that you can only be a Nazi if you

hate the Jews, or if you hate Jews who are right-wing, who are in Israel, those are the only times that you can be a Nazi. There's no other definition of Nazism other than hating Jews. If you take the exact same belief system that the Nazis had about, you know, cultural and like genetic superiority over a people, and you just apply it instead of Jews to Muslims, you are no longer a Nazi in the eyes of these right-wing psychopath. The interesting thing about Bannon is that Bannon is willing to take it a step further in which he still is able to call Jews Nazis but he does it from you know the sort of like a backwards like inverted vantage point of their Nazis because they go against Israel and I have this incredible video that

I think you know a lot of us shared around because we were just like wow he just went out and said it. He admitted. He admitted. And here it is. Where are you from? I was born in Jerusalem, folks from USSR so they've expelled in real socialism. My question is to you is this.

What do you think about foreign aid to Israel? Is it a strategic partnership? Israel is a partner of the United States. But people in Israel got to understand something. The number one enemy to the people in Israel are American Jews that do not support Israel and do not support MAGA. Maga and the evangelical Christians and the traditional Catholics in this country have Israel's back. They have the Jews back.

The biggest single enemy to the Jewish people are not the Islamic supremacists. The biggest enemy you have is inside the wire. Progressive Jewish billionaires that are funding all this stuff. They are the number one enemy, and the people in Israel have to set that right. Because Maga has your back, traditional Catholics have your back, and evangelical Christians have you back. We will always have the back of Israel. But I got to tell you, you have an enemy inside the wire. I mean, he's right.

He's not wrong in terms of... He's morally wrong. He's on the wrong side. Right. But evangelical Christians do have Israel's back. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Traditional Catholics, I guess.

Whatever the fuck that means. Yeah. That just means fucking maga. That just means we hate the current Pope and hope he dies. Yeah, right. Trad Cats. Yeah, yeah. No, but what's so fucking insane.

Number one, I, again, calling all liberal Zionists, please send that to all of your friends. I reach back out to them, unblock them, and just send them that video and see what's going on. Again, let's hook them up to the polygraph right there. But it also is like, you know, this is what Trump has been saying. He's been shaming Jews. Wow, I can't believe you wouldn't vote for me. And no, no, no. And I think it's also kind of, doesn't that make you guys feel proud?

It doesn't make you feel proud to be like, okay, so we are American Jews as they have been. In, you know, definitely in the last 10 years. I mean, I think really leading and joining Palestinian Arab and Muslim Americans in the fight for free Palestine. Like, it must, you should feel proud that you guys are seen as like, damn, the one, the little chink in the armor, the thing we haven't figured out. Right. The people we can't fully corrupt and we can't brainwash. Yeah. Well, I think it gives away what I've been saying, you know, from.

the beginning, which is that, like, this is the reason why American Jews should be speaking out. Because he's pointing out the thing that they have said they're afraid of for a long time, which is the fact that younger, leftist or progressive or whatever liberal Jews, more and more are just like, what is Israel? They seem bad. I don't want to have anything to do with it. And more to the point, it goes against their Hezbaran narrative, which is that Jews are a monolith, who all support Israel, save for a couple, you know. It's also super Islamophobic. Also, I love how he's like,

nah, it's not even really about, you know, Muslims and Arabs and Palestinians. It's really about the Jews. I mean, it kind of plays into the great replacement theory, stuff. It plays into the anti-Semitism broadly of, like, it's really about, you know, powerful Jews who might, which, like, what are there two?

I don't know. Like, like, okay, so. He's talking about George Soros. He's talking about Soros, and that's fucking it, you know? And you're like, yeah, I wish there were more of these people. who actually had money to support, you know, a free Palestine. Yes. I wish the anti-Zionist Jewish billionaires

that they believe exist actually did exist. Yeah. I mean, there is a Jewish billionaire class, you could say, but it's more the Bill Ackman type than. Yes, right. Yeah, it's the Sheldon-Aidelson type, you know, and Miriam Aedleson type. I mean, it's just like the Zionism is intrinsically linked to, you know, it's as a belief system to like sort of the more upper elite class of anything, you know, whether you're Jewish or not. If you're a billionaire, you know, your belief system is going to be very similar to that

of a Zionist. Yeah, who were the Jewish billionaires who were going to Congress and being like hands-off university free speech. Right. Yeah. Yeah. If, yeah. So, you know, but it's just so interesting seeing it from, you know, from Bannon because

what Bannon is doing there, I mean, it's as close as you can possibly get to just like doing Nazi talking points, but while still believing yourself to. be not the Nazi, you know, and that's what I mean about, sorry, he's just in the, like, you guys are in the way of this ethnic cleansing. It's the biggest propagandistic whole that they cannot figure out how to fill. That's what I mean about being super Islamophobic, because like Palestinians are completely secondary, third, fourth, fifth, they're not even human. They don't matter. You, we have to ethnically cleanse them. That's the project. It's the Jews who are in the way, the American Jews. It's a compliment.

end, it's dangerous incitement at the very same time. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, you know, I think for me, you know, what I've always kind of like felt about this whole thing is like as much as when I see Nazi salutes, like, you know, the thing inside of me, the automatic trauma response trigger is just like, oh, fuck, you know, worry about myself and about, you know, the Jewish community, you know, you can't.

look at the last 16 months of what's gone on in, you know, Israel without realizing that at the end of the day, the way that it works, you know, at least in the West and the United States, is that, you know, if the Jews are ever in danger, all that means is they've already wiped out the Arabs. They've already wiped out the migrants from Latin America. They've already killed all the trans people. By the time it is, it gets to the, Jews in the United States, a lot of other discrete initial groups have already been murdered. And you know what I mean? So it's like, it's for me, you know, I look at the ban and, you know, clip.

And I go like, he just sees and is saying out loud what is, you know, said quietly within Israel and within Zionist spaces, which is like these fucking anti-Zionist Jews, these fucking progressive Jews are fucking up our Hasbara. Yeah. And I think maybe he's saying, look, we would rather, we would really rather not have to mess with

stoking anti-Semitic hate crimes ourselves. We're hoping some Zinists, some, some Betar people can take care of it for this. Yeah. This is an internal matter. Yeah. Yeah. Can you clean house? Yeah. Yeah. Not to give anyone any ideas, but, but, you know. I mean in this. No, they're saying come get your boys. And, and, and,

And do that in whatever way you deem necessary. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think it's also like, it's only a bit a month since Trump's been in office. And I am someone who, look, if there are liberal Zionists who it takes Donald Trump doing everything so much more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hamfisted, meaning the same amount of death and destruction and annexation of the West Bank, but without the sort of hand-wringing and the like, we feel bad for every life lost. Right. And the lying about them trying not to do that. I say so be it.

You know what I mean? if we can in, you know, five years have people with influence and money, you know, giving to, you know, pro-Palestine anti-Zionist causes good because it's the only way to Matt's point that you're going to fight the fascist right anyway is to stop fucking selling people off and making these strange bedfellow art pro, you know, strange bedfellows in the service of people who ultimately want you exterminate it anyway. And so I just. Yeah, I completely agree. We'll see. I, I, my feelings about this. are pretty much identical, which is that, like, I, as much as I am going to make fun of people who finally come around, and as much as I will question their motivation, you know, and whether or not they actually do care, or this is just, you know, like the price of eggs to them. Sure, sure, sure. I welcome any of these liberal motherfuckers to go and march on the street and say fucking free Palestine and do whatever they can to try to stop the, you know, ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Like, yeah, if you have to, if you have to protest Israeli hegemony in a pussy hat, so be it.

Yeah, go ahead. I don't give a fuck, you know, and it's like, you know. I mean, technically code pink kind of already does that. So I just want to point that out. That's true. It's kind of the amazing thing about code pink because they're very liberal coded, but they are, but they are radical as fuck. You're radical as shit.

I don't know about you guys. This banning thing, it's chilling. Yeah. But my reaction to it, I have to say, I had more of a visceral shutter when Biden at his White House Kinnika party said, you know, if it weren't for Israel, I wouldn't be able to keep all you Jews safe. I wouldn't be able to guarantee your safety. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not a Jew in the world is safe without Israel.

Right, not a Jew in this room, not a Jew in this country, not a Jew in this city. So again, it's like, pick your poison. Totally. I mean, I remember until the very end when Blinken had, I forgot the journalist's name, hauled out of the press conference. And in it, he, in the press conference, Blinken said that he keeps the names of the hostages in his lapel. Right.

I was chilled because I was like, oh, we. We've been fucked with this administration. By the way, did you guys talk about how there's going to be an Iron Dome for America? I feel like you don't give enough credit to the fact that Trump is actually delivering. All right. Executive order, January 27th, 2025, the Iron Dome for America. Oh, this sounds very exciting. I've always wanted my own Iron Dome.

For the past 40 years, rather than lessening the threat from the next generation strategic weapons, has become more intense and complex with development by peer-to-peer near adversaries. I feel like this is going to be an Israeli thing. Is Israel going to get the defense contract? Well, it's all usually our defense contractors, right? Within 60 days, defense of the United States against ballistic hypersonic active advanced cruise missiles.

Okay, where's the dome part? Where's the dome? Well, that is. That is the dome. Oh, right. It's not physical. I always forget. I always forget.

I was forget it's not a, in my mind, it's always the Simpsons movie. It's bio-dome? God damn it, where's the dome? I'm like, fuck, this suck. I'm such a, I'm such a magachud reading this. You're scrolling through looking for a dome. Where's the word dome?

So, yeah, that's what's going to happen. We're going to get a new missile defense shield. Which is just Star Wars. I think we need to read out Adam's joke. Oh, please. What was it? The only Iron Dome is when a Ninja Turtle gets a BJ from Shredder. Thank you, Adam.

That was beautiful. Yeah, no, I mean, listen, we're going to get an iron dome. That's fine. The problem with us having an Iron Dome is we're not attacked by missiles enough. So what's going to end up happening is we're just like, can we test it on Seudad Juarez? That's exactly right. And then, yeah. Here, Saskatchewan.

Fire this at us. Yeah. Just real quick. Just real quick. Just real quick. Don't worry about it. Just real quick. Oh, no.

No, no, it's just for pretend. Yeah. No, we won't take it seriously at all. Oh, fuck. We accidentally wiped out Newfoundland. Newfoundland. Before we get out of here, there's a couple of

Israel AIs that I want to do for our wonderful segment. You know it. You love it. I'm Yisrael A.I. Picture of a lion with an Israeli flag and a picture of a Hamas as an octopus or a boss. I'm Israel, aye.

I'm Israel. I'm Israel. Hey, hi. Israel. Hey, hi. Oh, my God. I don't think I've seen that. Yeah, yeah.

Well, there's a lot going on. This is probably our best segment because the stories in this are always just, so wonderfully artificial and just out there. And they're like, Hasbara pushed the limits not only of the human imagination, but like human imagination. I mean, human existence. They're pushing the limits of existing humans. Isn't Chad GBT like kind of anti-Zionist though?

Like don't want. Occasionally. Yeah. Occasionally. Yeah. On our last episode with Lara Gosengirl, we read out a very interesting chat GPT answer to the prompt, is Zionism a psychosis? And there was a cycle, very, very interesting psychopolitical discussion of that.

No, it was, it was really good. And it was like, cribbed from Edward Said. It was clear that, you know, that sometimes chat GPT reads some really good shit, you know, and does a pretty good job, you know, pretty good job. But so there's a few different AI videos and things. I mean, so one is, Maris Yahoo is out here. Rob Trent, as I call him.

Yeah, Rob Trent. Bidabing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing. Yeah. Bada ding, ding, ding, ding, bho. My bummer clot, IMA. Yeah. Donation of Israel is a lot. Brup brup Bumbo clot

All right So Wait is that what he does Does he actually do reggae? Yes Like Zionist reggae? Well it wasn't Zionist before He was just kind of like

Hasidic It was Hebraic Okay Yeah it was Which which is not such a stretch You know Babylon and all this Reggae is very old testament influence Exodus

There's also discussion of Israel right? Yeah I mean you know But like He was He was doing Israelites? That's an old reggae. A reggae and

yeah, reggae and Zionism you know they do go together accidentally. Right. But yeah, so Marisiyahu who is no longer Hasidic but has replaced his

Hasidism with his Zionism. Hasidem, but I don't believe him. The nation of Israel is alive. Love is the ingredient that we hold on to. We will not forget, we will, and we will not forgive. I love those two sentences. Love is the ingredient that we hold on to. We will not forget

him, we will not forgive. Yeah, I mean, schizophrenic, to say the least. Love isn't forgiveness. Nobody's ever said that. Yeah, no one has ever said that. I mean, if they had, they're probably Christian. There's this one Jew who said it. Yeah, he's no longer Jewish. He's son of God. The lion of Judah is rising through this chapter of pain. It is time to

meet our fate in the garden. Eternity. is burning. This caption is AI generated. Yeah, what the fuck, dude? This is just like the most emo fucking poem from like Hebrew school. Eternity is burning. Eternity is burning. King David is within

each and every one of us. Fan the flame. AI visuals by at Tropland universe. Okay, so now we're going to get a little bit of the AI visuals from our boy Matisse Yahoo.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Kiss, kiss. He's kissing. All right, so he's... The music, though. That's his music. That's his music.

I know. It's AI. It's AI, Madis Yahoo, playing with a lion, who is the lion of Judah. He's like, kissy. it on its on its nuzzle here the new Lion King movie is way worse than I remember yes

he's gonna fuck this lion oh my god he's gonna fuck this lion this is like a song that's playing in a cafe in a tourist trap that you're like whose son

or who's this cafe is Israeli owned and they're playing this awful song on loop That is a song you hear while you're while you're being pickpocketed

at a tourist location That is You've reached the office of Daniel Hagari Yeah We cannot take your call right now Please enjoy this hold of music Oh my god

And the frolicing Those images with him and that lion It's just So what's the accession with the lion? Well, because it's like the lion of Judah The lion of Zion Everything I know about lions and Zion Has to do with reggae.

Yeah, iron lion Zion Yes, that's right Yeah, and so I I'm not sure if lions and Judah are more put together in like Old Testament or if it's mostly just a Rastafarian thing. Was Marley a Zionist?

No, he's just Ross. He's just Ross. He's a Rasta. Was the state of Israel? I guess it was around. Okay, well, that's for another episode. I'm just fascinated by that. I guarantee you Peter Tosh was not.

Yes, Peter Dosh, definitely not. When he said legalize it, he was talking about Palestinians. Yeah. that was amazing just like just how much fresh water was used for that I know I know

it's like an entire village is now going Thursday Explain to me how the what the fuck AI has to do with fresh water or natural resources I don't understand this connection So in order to cool down the processors the computer processors

that create AI images somehow freshwater not salt water has to be used to cool down the processors because that's how fast they're sort of churning and working and that's why water is used to create everything AI yeah it's uh it's an insanely mommy i'm thirsty yeah sorry sorry this garfield needs three titties matizahu's lion mantis yahu has to tame the lion needs to go for a walk yeah matis yahoo needs to ride a lion and you know kiss it and stuff but not a sexual way he would never do that

that um yeah so fuck israel humanity doesn't have the right to exist at this point i know i know the whole thing earth does not have a right to exist i said it or at least the humans on the earth the lions the real lions can live um another uh i i slot for all of us is uh this was on um well let me start with something else no no i'm going to have to do this uh it is this just came out on truth social. Yep. This is the, what do you call it? Oh, is this Trump Gaza?

Trump Gaza. Oh, this is delightful. Yeah, so this literally just came out and I am like, well, you'll see for yourself. It is an AI created video of what Trump Gaza will be. Lerichel fire. Gaza 2025. What's next? And then so you see the destruction

tunnels of rubble, but towards beautiful. skyscrapers. Yes, yes. And you see that like all of the rubble is now turned into. I'm sorry, is this children, is this child have like missing a limb? That child is missing a limb, but that could just be an AI. That could just be AI. Yeah. But they are leaving tunnels, by the way. Oh, there is. Bringing the light for all to see. No more tunnels. Elon Musk eating some kind of canopy or what is that on the beach? I don't know. It's, it looks like He's got a bread bowl of hummus and sourdough.

Trump God is finally here. Okay. Okay. Seriously, though, we have to watch this like 10 times because there's way too much here. There's a lot going on. Now there's a giant balloon of just the head of Trump made of gold and held by a child. Trump's nice Palestinian representation in this, you know? Yeah.

The people of Palestine are being shown. Are you hearing the music? No more tunnels. No more fear. Trump, Gaza is finally here. Some belly dancers, that's authentic. Okay, so the belly dancers are very particular because it seems like they are Hamas fighters.

Oh, let's go to the belly dancers. Hold on. Okay, so here's... Elon Musk eating bread bowl. Oh, my God. They seem to be Hamas fighters, but they are women. Are they women? Are they trans Hamas?

Yeah, this is trans Hamas. That is trans Hamas. They are Hamas belly dancers. with beards. Long beards and boobies. A lot. Drag terrorist story hour. Yeah.

Yeah. Which I thought they hated, but now there's a police for them. But they're not infected with the woke mind virus. That's right. So also, the Hezbara is, of course, that Gazans hate trans people, hate gay people. They hate, you know, they misspelled their prompt, trance, Hamas. Yeah. Yeah.

They meant si trans trans. not trans no but it's like they're like no see then the Israelis will get all their weird gay stuff you know that's that's why we support Israel because they like all the trans gay stuff it's okay for them to do that if it is an excuse uh to murder palestine yeah I think that's actually good reading of this because I think I saw this and I think a lot of people are like this has got to be a mistake they just didn't even watch their own video that they put out but it could also just be Number one, it's, it's, like, clearly degrading. Right.

And or, like, oh, you can be gay in the new Gaza. Right. And the new Gaza, you can be gay and trans. We'll just, you know, we'll be mad about it in the United States. It's just so, like, the hespara is schizophrenics. Right, right. You can't blame AI for getting it right. Yeah, you can't blame AI for being like, oh, no, dog.

I'm just trying to follow your logic. Your logic. I'm just trying to give you your fantasy. Obviously, it's skyscrapers and eating bread bowls on the beach and clearly your hottest shit for Hamas. And we've all known that. It's a Riviera, right? They need a concubine class. And tourists have a lot of different tastes.

That's right. That's right. Business is business. All right. There's yachts. There's, you know, yachts and beaches and everyone's so evil. You know, it looks like a resort. And there's Trump.

Now he's, now he's, now he's. He's still a chunky man, and he's talking to some hot Israeli. No, it looks like a belly dancer. Oh, is a belly dancer. Elon is throwing money up on the beach because Elon's got money. Oh, my God. I didn't even notice this. He's throwing the money at the children.

Yeah. If you just let us ethnically cleanse Gaza, then we will give the children some money. We'll throw it at them, like the way you throw bread at birds in the park. Okay, and now we're getting into Trump, Gaza, a hotel, the hotel that he's going to open up. Elon again. More dipping, yeah, Elon dipping something, more bread. More bread dipping. A Saddam Hussein-like statue to Donald Trump.

Of Donald Trump, making him solid gold and maybe like 200 feet tall. Jesus. Trump, okay, so now this is what, the Trump Gaza gift shop? so you can buy multiple Donald Trump's sitting or standing made of solid gold yeah this looks like

oh yeah if you want to buy some gold this is still the gift shop all right and here's Elon walking Elon's lost weight in this AI though Trump is still a fat plop yeah I like that

I love that Trump is the one who posted it yeah yeah Trump doesn't see Trump is someone who doesn't, he knows what he looks like and he thinks that's hot. Whereas Elon is the most insecure man in the world and he's just like, no, could you make me? And I think he also just admires the creativity. He's like, oh, look, someone made this and it's generally positive. Yeah. He just, good job. Yeah. This is like he saves like, he's like, he's like the Montessori teacher of Maga. Like he just encourages his people to just, you know, express themselves.

Express yourself. Have fun. Have fun out there. Except for if it's his own kids. He's like, is uh he only um you know praises your macaroni art if you are someone who voted for him okay this is the best one all right now this is trump and b b b uh laying beach side drinking tortillas titty titty's out for genocide yeah yeah he's out straight up just straight tiggy biggies uh trump gaza are right behind them and they are it looks like they're having the time they're like you know what though i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna It's all it. Number one, I love how his left hand, unless if you play it, it emerges, but Trump doesn't drink. So this looks like an alcoholic beverage, and I'm just going to say that

He might be having a version. It could be. I was going to correct him. It might be a, it might be a spiked kombucha. Yeah, he's just like, I don't drink, but I like it anyway. All right. And. Okay, guys, but this is worse than Biden. All right. Not in action. It's a matter of, no, it's a matter of taste. It's a matter of taste. It's a matter of taste. I'm sorry, this is energetic. It's colorful.

It's optimistic. It's creative. It's optimistic. And it's also not a lie. It's not a lie. And I think that is, that's always been the clash is that Trump is just like, no, let's turn it. Let's break it down and do ethnic cleansing and then we'll turn it into a casino. And Biden is like, oh, geez, you know, we're doing it.

We're doing it. We're doing it a breast week. It's also going to, it's also going to. convince no one. Right. Like I could stand to be corrected on this. I could eat my words. But this is the kind of thing. It's just like, hey, here's a fantasy I had that made me feel like there's no, this is not a political program. But for me again, back to the liberal Zionist, like would it convince them that like? Right. Would it have the opposite effect? Would it convince them that like maybe

this is no, but this is awful. And and like this is clearly wrong. And and it's so degrading. But I will say to your point of creativity, like, at least Trump is like painted an end game and an end goal. Where people are happy. Yeah. Right. Where people somehow are happy, you know, the ones aren't, who aren't living in the Sinai desert intense.

Yeah. That'll be Trump Sinai number one. Yeah. That's the next video. Wait for it, Francesca. Oh, God. Yeah. As far as the liberal Zionists go, if Twitter is any indication, which it probably isn't, but

you see people like. my boy, Shael Benafriam, you know, horrified by all this stuff. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, because this is crude, this is crass that, and, and, and, you know, it's been posting things that really affirm Palestinian humanity in the face of this kind of shit. Right. And, um, you know, a lot of sort of more moderate Palestinians and him having a little love in, like, yeah, thank you for, you know, standing with us.

And he's like, yeah, this is, this is, this is what's possible. if you combine your love of Israel with liberal values and he's really trying to make a go of it and then we see I don't know if we're doing this today or in a different episode but you know the far right groups like Betar coming out and calling him and Shai Davidae soy boys

and all this kind of stuff the Zionist infighting the new fault line I'm finding it really fun to watch oh I love it because you're watching liberal Zionists make this impossible comeback that's just not going to succeed but they think they have a moral upper hand because it's so crass and gross and obvious.

Right. And then you have right wing Zionists coming and being like, yeah, shut the fuck up, nerd. Yeah, yeah. The time for you is past. I think everyone realizes that. Right. They're like, it's over for you, soy boys. We out here being Nazis out loud.

And each of them is correct in their own very limited. Right. And hopeless way. Yes. In their own narrative and in like their entire justifications for whatever they're holding, whether it's a liberal Zionism or like. right-wing fascist, you know, Nazi Zionism, they're not wrong just in whatever way that they are justifying it. They're wrong morally. They're wrong in terms of like the realities.

But what do you mean they're right in their own way? Well, they're not, they're not wrong about their about each other. Yes, about each other. The right-wing Zionists are correct that the liberal Zionists are feckless soy boys. Yes. Whatever that term means. But but what, but what that term connotes is a kind of toothless hypocrisy, a kind of half measure unwillingness to come out and say what you are kind of cowardice, right? And a kind of dishonesty. The liberal Zionists are not wrong that the batarnics are dangerous psychopaths. Psychopaths, right? Yes, yes, that they are fascists. But neither of them has any self-awareness. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so they're just continually pointing the finger at each other and, you know, continually never allowing themselves

to self-reflect. Because if they self-reflect, you would mean waking up out of Zionism entirely. Right. And that's just how it is. I mean, it's going to, it's, you know, it's great, back to Trump. Like, it's just like that is so far off his, his whatever evil, evil dream. things would have to be so much even worse than the last 16 months of course even more egregious and even more stark and I'm just like terrified of what I'm hoping this is all just bluster and in his head I mean I don't think so I mean Israel's seems like it's waiting for the pretense to go back in yeah or waiting you know I don't know I mean I I don't know either I I think that that it's, well, I mean, you've got incursions into the West Bank like we haven't seen, right?

No, right. I mean, in terms of like, it is obviously it's bluster, but I think there's one thing that, you know, we've seen. It's that, you know, Israel is going to do whatever it wants to do and, you know, international community to be damned. And Trump is just going to be out there openly, front facing, supporting, rather than, you know, doing the, the fake hand-wringing and the fake crying of the Blinken State Department. And so what changes there? I'm not really sure other than the Overton window changing for what is allowed for a president to say about whether or not Palestinians have the right to live.

But, you know, I will say the other change there could be that American liberals will finally, you know, be able to say out loud that, Israel is an apartheid state carrying out a genocide and ethnic cleansing, the likes of which we have not seen. American liberal Zionists, sound off in the chat, if you dare. Yeah. No, but for real, though, I mean, every time you see Trump doing something like this, you know, I get it from all sides, basically a bunch of libs who are mad at me because they think that I wasn't out there telling people to vote for Kamala Harris. And of course, radicals are mad at me because I was telling people to vote for Kamala Harris. Right, right, right.

And you're like, you know, hey, there's a massive fracture in the Democratic. Party caucus base over this issue. How about we just stop with war and militarism? It's never served us. Right. And it's unpopular, writ large. Can we do that? And that should be the litmus test,

including Palestine, should be a litmus test for any Democrat going forward. I sadly don't think it will be, but I think it's on us to make sure it is. Yeah, that's one area where Steve Bannon actually said an unironically good and sensible thing last week or the week before. He's like, if you're serious about being all doge-fied, doge-pilled, cross the Potomac, go to the Pentagon.

That's where the majority of wasteful. And they are now, they're just getting, they're firing military lawyers. Sorry to interrupt you. I'm a big interrupter. No, I actually interrupted you to get that point in. So take it back. Take the power back, girl. It's just so gross because they're like, they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to fire the woman and the black guy.

Yeah, we're going to do the. How about that? We cut the Pentagon budget. It's like, shit. Yeah, that's not what, that's not what should be meant by that. Exactly. Yeah, but, you know, yeah, whether or not the, you know, cutting the military spending has to do with actually trying to stop the expansion

and decrease military industrial complex, or whether it's just a tool that will be used to do anti-D-EI shit. Exactly. We'll see. And I have a feeling I know which one it's going to be. Quickly, with the banning question, because we were super focused on what he said, right? right, which was jarring and crazy.

But the question was aid to Israel, right? Wasn't that the question? He never answered it. So, again, they can't answer it because here they're all, no, money for Ukraine, blah, blah, blah. And they can't actually end, oh, where the bloated spending and this and that, but the actual question was a good one. What do you think? How does Israel aid square with your worldview?

And you're wanting to cut the budget and all this and save money. And America first. And he turned it back on the fucking, oh, it's the progressive. Did you shut the fuck up? That's not the question. Before we talk about that, have you considered the fact that there's these Jews out there

trying to fuck your shit up? Exactly. Have you considered that you have a nephew who's going to try to bring a progressive haggata to this year's Passover? Exactly. We're not reading that shit. Yep.

We're only reading the most Zionist Agata that we can print out. What's a Hagata? So at Passover, you read the thing? Oh, I've read that before. Yeah. It's the Passover script. Yeah.

But, you know, sometimes you can like switch up the script and make it like super woo um is elijah hot i mean he's not even there i know but so i'm like i just like imagine him that's why he's late because he's so hot is he just like really he's invited to all these other parties this is just me learning uh yeah well guys i think i think we have solved the israel palestine crisis again

yeah how many fucking time Do we need to solve this fucking crisis? Apparently 90. This is our 90th episode. Is it 90? I think it might be 89 and I wrote 90 accidentally. While I'm reading your fucking stream you're at 10. I'm sorry.

But this, listen, we've solved 89 times. Maybe we can do 11 more and get to a nice. And the 100th in live? 100. Yeah, we'll get a live show. Listen, we want to do a live show. that we will first have to find a venue. But until then, Francesca Fiorentini, my wife, so good to have you on the podcast.

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