Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 92: Free Mahmoud Khalil, with Bilal Sharmoug

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by comedian and actor Bilal Sharmoug to talk over the shocking ICE detention of Columbia grad student and protest leader Mahmoud Khalil, finding common cause with Ann Coulter, and a Beatle cucking in our nation’s intelligence capital: Nassau County, New York.Donate to Mahmoud Khalil’s legal fundraiser: https://chuffed.org/project/justice-for-mahmoud-khalil Matt and Francesca will be at the Sacramento Punch Line on March 16th! Buy tickets now! https://livemu.sc/4jS1qKfCome see Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini do stand up at Cobbs Comedy Club in San Francisco on May 7th. Tickets here: https://www.livenation.com/event/G5vYZb0MwzkkR/francesca-fiorentini-and-matt-lieb Find Bilal Sharmoug at https://www.instagram.com/wellfedcomic/ or https://x.com/wellfedcomicSubscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbara Subscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55 Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id172181392Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Unfortunately, I have a little girl, so I can't really, like, avoid being near kudis, but... I don't suppose there was a give-backs option? No, there was no take-backs. There was no take-backs. That's what we call it in America and the United States. I know in Canada, you call it land back, but we don't call it that. We call it that, and then we don't do it.

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Today's episode is brought to you by Justice for Mahmood Khalil. Hell yeah. Yes. So we're going to talk about the grave mistreatment of Mahmood Khalil today. There is a chuffed.org fundraiser in progress to, contribute to his legal fees and other expenses associated with his case, which I believe will be very expensive and he will need all the help he can get. So please visit the short link bit.ly slash Justice Khalil to make a donation. That's bit.l.ly slash j-u-s-t-I-C-H-A-L-I-L-L.

You know what I just noticed about that? What? I mean, of course, hip hop has noticed this spelling trick, but in this case, it's extra ironic. Justice also spells just ice. That's right. Which in this case is the agency fucking process. Yeah.

Yeah. And there's no such thing as just ice. It's unjust ice. But anyway, Justice Khalil, don't let my, don't let my pedantic noticing derail. Don't let Daniel sense of humor change your politics for the worse. Okay. There's one thing we don't want to do is we don't want to change you into being bad. You are good. And because of that, you believe in justice and you do not believe in just ice. We do not like ice. When last anti-ice protest I went to, I held up a sign that said, no ice, noice. And, you know, I just, I just was proud of that. I, like, I took a picture of the sign and I was like, do I have? have to go anymore. Yeah.

Haven't I already contributed? I got this great sign. Yeah. Daniel, what's the spin? Well, what do you notice about the records on the shelf behind me there, Matt? Oh, if I were to look, I would see, well, there's Bjork. There is, oh, I get it. Women.

Yeah, it's all women up there. Yes. From Ani de Franco to Janet Jackson, to Madonna, to La Lupe, to Stevie to Ellis Coltrane. So we just had international women's day. Oh, shout out. And rather than trying to pick a couple of, you know, women for the spin. Sure. The women in the background. And what I want to foreground is men being really good allies. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The point is, is that we have acknowledged once a year that women exist and do music. That's right. Mm-hmm. And at the top of every episode, the third word in our episode theme song is bitch.

That's a good point. But anyway, these are songs where men actually genuinely, I think, step up and not a kind of condescending or patronizing song about a woman's plight, but actually stepping up about feminism itself. Oh, so these are actually going to be male allies? Male allies, yeah, yeah, yeah. what you and I can aspire to. No, for real. Because I could only find four in my collection, so that's a little more manageable.

That's right. You couldn't do the women for International Women's Day because there's just too many. There's just too many. It would have taken up the entire person. You know, I could have done like, You can't find a better man, but not songs like that,

like a sympathetic portrait of an abused woman or the day that never comes by a Italian. No, I wanted to do songs that take the topic head on. So, Yusu Endur has a song on this album, I think Senegalese singer. Peter Gabriel co-wrote the song and sings on it called Shaking the Tree. It's Your Day, Woman's Day. Show him your anger and pain so you heal. Maybe he's looking for his womanly side.

Those are some of the lyrics. Fugazi, classic DC punk hardcore band with a great song called Suggestion, where they actually put themselves in the shoes of a woman who's sick and tired. of sexual harassment and then the voice of the lyrics, which is to like, we all stand by and let it happen. We're all guilty. So that's some ally ship right there. Woman and Chains by Tears for Fears,

which has a female co-lead singer and it's a powerful song about female liberation. And then finally, La Fem Fatal, a song by Digable Planets. Yeah. Of Cool Like That Fame, which is a solo for Butterfly, Ish Butler, who sings about standing by his female friend when she's going through an abortion crisis and sort of a pledge of solidarity. So those are those are four spinnable tracks for us men who need to know that there are other

men who are allies. That's right. And I love to remember that, you know, allieship is. Yeah. Always, always doable and always needed. yes absolutely and in fact we're always doing it

very imperfectly yes we are and next year for you know what do you call it Black History Month you know let's just do

white artists who cover black music so all of rock and roll or if I want to displace that no I won't even well I could do that John Lennon song which I won't even know

do not do that song do not in fact when you were saying this i was like i really hope he doesn't i don't have that album i hope he wasn't even i don't own that album listen john lennon he did a he did a lot of good music and i'm not even saying that's a particularly bad song but it's just one of those things where you go like um best to leave that one in drafts homie well it hits different now uh there's a clip of lennon talking about the song on some late night talk show in the 70s where he reads a long statement by the head of the Congressional Black Caucus at the time being like, I totally approve of this song if you understand that word to mean, you know, lesser than.

And, you know, it was a very, very, very different. I printed out me hood pass. That's right. I got a hood pass from the Congressional Black Congress. Exactly. I mean, exactly. They gave me a certificate so I can say the word. Even that hits different.

But we're talking about the age of, you know, Richard Pryor and Chevy Chase. It's totally okay for me to say it because of the certificate that I've printed out and laminated on me wall. And also my wife's a W-O-C, don't you know, technically. My wife's a woman of color and my children are half. I've got little havesies walking around, yeah. You know when I don't have a cold? Lucy in the sky with street crayon. This ax, usually I'm very.

very good at Liverpudley and right now I'm not I'm not crushing it as hard as I usually do but it's usually I'm doing pretty good it's just me doing Beatles guy but it's just because of the rasp which may should make me sound more like John Lennon okay John used to say the word all the time in the studio he well that's a really good Paul was that Paul that was beautiful yeah wow that was I've never heard a Paul that good um he used to call Ringo that yeah he used to call me that all the time In fact, Octopus's Garden used to be a whole other slur because he would do anti-Semitism to me because of my big nose. And so he changed the word to octopus because of, well, there's certain Nazi cartoons that have us.

It was originally called Octopus's Seda. I had to tell him, just because my last name Starsky doesn't mean that I'm actually. Jewish. People kept thinking I was a Jew. It's actually Starkey. Is it? Yeah. Fuck. Well, on that note, we have a great- That was the end of the yes-and sequence. Yeah. Actually starky, Matt. Yeah, yeah. Once you know and me, then I'm like, okay, well, end of the bit. It's actually a great way of doing it, because otherwise we will keep going. We have a great guest today. A returning bad Hasbara champion. You may know him from the show On Call on Amazon Prime or from the TV show Star Wars Skeleton Crew. He's back. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, welcome back to the show,

Belal Charmouk. Yeah. Well, Sam is in the building. How are you doing, Doggy? I'm doing good. And despite all odds, despite appearing on this podcast, I have since made a great career in Hollywood. Look at that. The last time I saw you guys. You're booking shit. That's crazy. So the Star Wars thing is new?

I mean, we shot it like a year ago, but they could have cut it. But they aired it despite your appearance on this podcast. Exactly. That's amazing. It's amazing. Congratulations. So tell us about that. I mean, yeah, before we get into a galaxy very close and very much right now.

Yeah. Well, I was telling people, and to be honest, I don't know this to be fact, but I was telling people, I'm the first Palestinian in the Star Wars universe. Hell yeah. That's probably true. It's got to be, right? And then there was a Calrissian, but no Palestinians. That's right. That's an Armenian, right?

Calarizian. Lando is canonically from... Lando Calrician. Yeah, Calarizian. He is from one of those Armenian planets they got in that galaxy far away. Yeah, and you know what happened in that planet. Yeah, Waddo was there with his chance cube. Along with the Mandalorian. I can't go without saying that.

I think like a couple weeks before the air date, a story came out that they were supposed to have their first ever female Palestinian Jedi. Oh, shit. Yeah, her name was Yasmino Mustry. She shot all the shots and she was supposed to be a legit Jedi. They cut her out of everything. Wow. And so when I heard that, I was like, oh, I'm next.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm just so inconsequential that they're like, you know, we'll let him have this one. so who do you play uh i i play a security on obviously on the planet lanupa so it's one episode jude law and all his little kids are running around the planet and yeah i got to chase them down and i love that you said obviously like look at me i look like a security guard you know you have you have this like this this thing where it's like to look at you you'd be like he's whatever jason Mamoa is. I get that.

You know? And so, you know, people are just like, ah, you know, Jason Monmoa never caused any waves, you know, no, no Aquaman pun intended. So this guy will be fine. I love it. Yeah, I get that. Actually, on the on-call show, it's hilarious. I was, I played a Mexican named L-O-O-L-O-So. Yeah, you could just tell by the way I said that. So you're the lead in the Mexican. The bear. Adaptation of the FX cooking show of the bear. That'd be an eating show if I was in it. I'll tell you that much.

You play a Michelin-starred chef who comes back to Mexico City to try and turn around his cousin's tru stand. Yeah, exactly. I'd watch that. And into a showurama stand. It'd be so sick, too, because there'd probably be jokes in that one. I would love that. Listen, I really love the first season of the bear and like half of the second season.

I agree with you completely. At some point, I just was like, oh, guys, can you just throw in a joke? I understand. 30-minute dramas? What are we doing here? A little levity goes a long way. They jumped the shark around the time that they got that performance out of Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah.

It was a cool episode, but it was kind of like, look who we can pull. Oh, John Mullaney's here, you know. It was a lot of look who we can pull. After a while, I was just like, guys, just back to the roots, yell at each other. And then it was kind of just yelling at each other. Yeah. Too much roots. When I was on set for the Mexican role, I remember, you know, I was like, I thought they were going to hire an actual Mexican.

Like, this is great. No, this is Hollywood, baby. Yeah. And I'm on set. They didn't even hire an actual Mexican for Amelia Perez. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good point.

There were no Mexicans in this film entirely set in Mexico. To be fair, there's no Mexicans in Los Angeles. Yeah. true and and I was on set one of the stand-ins was like is your name bad dad and I'm like yeah she starts speaking to me in Arabic and I'm like lady you're gonna ruin it yeah stop fucking get this up for me listen we'll talk later it'll be great but right now I'm Mexican okay just speak Arabic but in like a wookie kind of accent disguise it I'm sorry

Brooke Yeah Oh that's so awesome Well congrats man I mean that's that is great You know I love to see I love to see the homies winning

You know No matter what race You know gender creed ethnicity Star Wars about to get the Bad Has Baro podcast bum Hell yeah If you guys don't know Star Wars Check it out

check it's pretty good um you know join their patreon join their patreon at star wars dot com slash bonus non canonical content yeah exactly don't expect it to see yeah um so today we have uh a you know very focused episode you know usually we're all over the place not today well despite i mean except for the first 20 minutes we got it out of our we got it out of our system We had to get it out of our system because there's been one story that's been dominating everything. And look, on this podcast, oftentimes we have to, like, kind of choose our stories pretty carefully as to not make this a depressing podcast. Because, you know, it's like out, it's depressing out here in these streets. I mean, you know, you see the amount of repression, you know, here in the United States.

you see the actual fucking genocide in uh in the in the in gaza you see the fast tracking of Israeli society to yes country in anyone's memory yeah and so things can get often you know pretty bummeristic uh but uh this was just a story that we we we had to talk about because it's just a confluence of so many things that we discuss on this podcast. And we're talking about, you know, Hasbaris and their narrative and their end goals and, you know, what the turning of the American Jewish institutional community from something that has to do with communal Jewish life into just Zionist mouthpieces for an apartheid state thousands of miles away. communal Jewish life mixed with more than lip service to liberal values. Absolutely. Yes.

You know. I can accurately say that as imperfect as it's been and sometimes hypocritical and inconsistent, generally speaking. Yeah. A lot of the Jewish presence in the U.S. has tried, you know, has leaned things towards leaned towards, I mean, you know, the universalist values. For as much as, you know, the ADL more and more, you know, of their history has come out as being a lot more shady than we had known, you could still, you know, call it a liberal institution without being laughed at. Not anymore. So today we're going to be talking about the arrest and detention and disappearance of a student, Mahmoud,

Khalil. So Mahmoud Khalil is a Palestinian activist and Columbia University graduate student who is a U.S. resident, a green card holder, is married to an American citizen

who is eight months pregnant, and he was arrested by ICE in front of his home in New York and disappeared for a couple of days. He's originally, he grew up in Palestine. Is that where he's from? I believe he's it's a great question.

It's a great. I think so. Yeah. I know that he is, hold on. So he was born in a Syrian refugee camp. And so I believe he is a Palestinian refugee, not from, you know, the West Banker from Gaza, but he was born in a refugee camp. So born in a Syrian refugee camp as a Palestinian.

So he's known nothing but peace and comfort his entire life. Yeah, his life is. And he's called college, too. Exactly, just classic liberal. Entering his, encountering his first adversity. Exactly. He was probably doing, you know, improv Olympics, you know, before this.

And, yeah, he was disappeared, like his wife, his family, even his lawyers, had no idea where he was until, like, a few hours ago when it was finally revealed that he was in Louisiana facing deportation, which you have to remember, he was arrested. in New York. So that means they arrested him and flew him to fucking Louisiana for deportee. It's just kind of like I can only imagine how insanely traumatizing the whole thing has been for him so far. New York is literally on the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. What do you need? What are you doing? What's in Louisiana? Like what a harsher conditions. A place to take him to. Yeah, I know. Weird. It is so weird. especially like if it's your first time in Louisiana and they're not letting you out to try

a po-boy sandwich. I'm sure they're not taking them into Bourbon Street. Definitely not. No way, which is again, it's like extra fucked up because, you know, who's... No, man, you want Cajun, not Cajun. That's right. That's right. Caged in. Like I said, folks, we're going to try to make the best of a bad situation. Um, so this all came about, because several Zionist groups and individuals began tweeting at like Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, Marco Rubio, naming and specifically targeting Mahmoud Khalil as one of the leaders of the Columbia protests. They threw up the brat symbol. Yeah, exactly. The brat symbol.

Here's one of the tweets from an account called documenting Jewish, Jew hatred on campus at Columbia University. So it says, Mahmood Khalil, a foreign student who was one of the leading agitators on campus is still causing trouble. He seems to be present at every encampment and every sit-in or building takeover. Yesterday, he managed... When we go to the bathroom, he's there.

Yeah. Everywhere I go, I see Mahmood. He's in the mirror. Yeah. He's in my DMs, sending me pictures of his dick. Yesterday, he managed to get on the campus, despite not being the, being a current student. Here he is confronting... Hold on. I can get on to campus despite not being a current student. What are you talking about? He managed his wily Palestinian found a way to walk through the

non-gates like they all, you know, he probably, you know, took one of those, uh, Hamas hang gliders over to the, the campus. That's probably... He took the Hamas one train. Yeah, exactly. Um, so the, yeah, it says a day before that, he was at Bernard College or he, Registrating illegal takeovers of buildings. Secretary Rubio, please revoked Mahmoud Khalil's visa. I'm surprised they didn't object to him being on Barnard campus, which is a women's college.

Yeah. Unlike transphobic grounds. Like this man is invading a woman's only space. Yes. Also, I'm sorry, but like this whole like documenting Jew hate. Yes. It doesn't it sound... It's a little better than those bailboards.

words that say stop Jewish hate. Right. Because it just sounds like we're like, we're documenting ourselves being hateful. Yeah. Yeah. That's a couple of commas away from being a totally different page. Totally different. Yeah.

Different. Yeah. If you click on the wrong one of those, you're just like, oh, this is bad too. Stop. Jew. Hate. Hate. Hate.

Hate. Hate. Hate. Just pointing saying hate. So another tweet was from, you know, our boy, Shy Devidae, who, yeah, really working hard to reestablish his creetting his credentials after the, after the fight with Batar-Nics of, you know, tried to emasculate him and call him a slender, you know, an anti-Zionist cuck. Yeah, yeah, so Shy's back. If only he would, hush, hush, dabbity. It would be so nice.

So he also wrote, Dear Secretary Rubio, thank you for your strong statements. Now we want to see strong action. Illegally taking over a college in which you are not even enrolled and distributing terrorist propaganda should be a deportable offense.

No, because that's what Mahmoud Khalil from Columbia, SJP, did yesterday at Barnard. Okay, but hold on. Should be a deborough. affordable offense, no. Well, no. Never mind if it should be or not. Is it? No, it's not. Shut the fuck up. Yes. Yeah. And, you know, the question of whether or not it should be is also a no. I mean, this whole thing comes down to people just deciding, like willingly deciding, okay, when it comes to speech I don't like, there is room for, you know, argument about whether or not. not someone should be deported, which is like so antithetical to, I mean, Jewish history in

general. I'm just thinking about Jewish history in the United States of like the Red Scare variety in which like they were constantly trying to deport like communists or suspected communists who were Jews because they were Jews and suspected of being communists. I mean, this whole like thing of like, you know, the third call. or fifth column, excuse me, of like, you know, Jews trying to, doing un-American activities and whatnot. Unfortunately, there's also a history of Jews relishing the opportunity to turn other

Jews in, see Roy Cohen versus the Rosenberg. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. What are you going to say below? You know, I think there's something about this, and I try to look at, like, the positives. Sure. Even in a situation like this where it's, like, really, fucked up yeah yeah yeah i love looking at positives it's it's the best try it yeah um yeah there's

there's something about this to where americans i think are starting to be like whoa what the hell is going on here i mean for crying out loud and colter made that was my fucking agreed with that was the witch yourself yes so here's that tweet this is actually a genuinely great tweet by. Yes. So Ann Coulter wrote, so this is a quote tweet from, you know, John Levine who wrote Zionistoric's prep list of foreign pro-Mas students hoping Trump will deport them, New York Post. And Enculture wrote, there's almost no one I don't want to deport. But it's a great start. That's a great joke at her own expense. That's a great joke. But unless they've committed a crime, isn't this a violation of the First Amendment?

And it's just, it's, it is nuts the amount of defenders and justifiers that I've been seeing regarding this exact thing where, where it's like, even Ann Coulter, who is just like, hi, I'm the devil. You may know me from such things as, you know. Get that guy. Yeah, get that guy and kill them all. Stone that witch. Yeah, to burn the witch.

See if she floats or drowns. there's just certain things with Americans you don't touch man you don't touch your constitution you don't touch you know and as I speak as an American myself I look at this from an American perspective like screw the fact that I'm Palestinian yeah as an American this scares me yeah and I think that does it you're right belal it does cut to the very heart of some some things that that are actually consciously the things that Americans qua america Americans attach their identity to. And it's just a good thing that we've got free speech in sisters like Barry Weiss and

her free press who are being really consistent with this. Yes. As we'll see, I'm sure. But no, you're, I mean, but this is this is the whole thing, of course. I mean, Glenn Greenwald's been harping on this for 16 months now that you have all these right wing anti-cancel culture anti-wokists whom he has said I support their outcry over cancel culture I support their insistence on the First Amendment there's been a lot of excesses on the progressive left trying to shut down okay fine but on every single issue except this one they you know they they they make free speech the ultimate uh value But when it comes to this, they seems to think there's an Israel exception to the First Amendment.

And then these people will say, well, it doesn't apply to foreigners. It doesn't apply to foreigners. It doesn't apply to people. And that's not true. That's not true. It's not how the Constitution works. Literally, people are trying to make the argument that the Constitution only applies to American citizens, which is just, it is just not true. I mean, if it wasn't true, I'd be in trouble. Yes. You would know if it wasn't true. because there would be nothing but this kind of shit happening all the time everywhere. And be rounding up tourists who say the wrong thing. A hundred percent. It's it's such a, it's, we're not far from.

What's that? We're not far from that. No, we, we aren't. And I think that's, you know, what's interesting about this or what's scary about this is it's just like, you know, this is a real test of, of that kind of commitment to the constitution. And, like, at this point, I have so little faith in any of our institutions that I'm like, are we going to have an Israel exception to the First Amendment? That's fucking nuts. And, you know, I, not to say I wouldn't be surprised, but it does kind of feel like it's going in that direction.

And we can only hope that, you know, people wise up. Some combination of principles and anti-Semitism will have some right wingers say, hey, wait a way. minute. I don't like this. And I frankly don't care what motivates them. Yeah. This should be a post. Some combination of the two. I don't know what proportions, but, you know, when you make a cake or a kala or anything, you can play with the proportions. Sometimes it's five eggs, sometimes it's six. Sometimes it's eggy. And to be honest, I hope it, I hope that they go that far. Yeah. I really hope that they say, okay, First Amendment is a thing, but you just can't talk about Israel. We're going to come out right and say

it. I hope they go that far. It'll fracture MAGA, that's for sure. A lot of people are going to, a lot of people are going to say like, holy shit, this is what I voted for. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right. People are saying it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're going to, obviously, there's always going to be millions of people

who just love their demagogue. And you can't, you can't really help that. they'll they'll you know if trump says no i'm this is the way to go they'll just be like okay sure whatever he says he's smart um but i do think that there are uh a huge proportion of people uh obviously like you know uh you know democrats and liberals but also in maga who will be like hell no and it's uh yeah it's almost like you want them to uh see how far they can push it um you know and whether or not voters themselves will fucking turn on them. And so soon into the administration too.

Yeah. Like it didn't take them two months to do something that really, I mean, this has reached mainstream news. This is getting coverage all over the place. I'm sure we'll have some clips. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's two months into, you know, the Trump presidency,

and they're already doing what a lot of these, like, insane fascist, Zionists have been begging them to do the Biden administration to do for over a year now where they're just like why are we not just deporting anyone who speaks out against

Israel? And look out what they also may have done unintentionally is woken the sleeping giant of the Democratic Party because no fewer than 13 Democrats signed a strongly worded letter to Secretary Rubio. I love a strongly worded letter dog. Signed by 13. of you, not including, not including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez somehow,

but including Al Green and Rashida Claib and the people you'd expect. Yeah. I'll never forgive the Democratic Party for making me excited about Stephen A. Smith in 28. I'll never forgive them. I mean, listen, if Stephen A. Smith is cool on Palestine, he's got my vote. And now, I'm a simple man. The 28 presidential debates.

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. moderated by Skip Bayliss. He just, Skip just spends, every question is about how much LeBron sucks. Oh, man, but yeah. Our next question comes from Herb Albert,

or Marv Albert, sorry. Yes. Yeah, no, it is like the, you know, the Democrats have written a strongly worded letter.

The Senate Judiciary Democrats, official account. So these are the Democrats within the Senate Judiciary Committee have their own Twitter account in which they wrote, you know, with a picture of

Mahmoud, they wrote free. Also known as the Jew dis-diary. They disjew. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not even worth the interruption. No, it was. It was because I get it. Because I get it. Jew-dischiary. Yes, very good. They're dishing Jew.

Adam, don't cut that, double it. Slow it down. Slow it down. Slow it down. Yeah, played a few times. Yeah, I just want to see it again. And then put an air horn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Beer, beep, be, be, be, be, pun. Pun, pa, pa, pa, pun. So, yeah, they, they did a tweet, which, hey, you know, resistance comes in all shapes and sizes. And, uh, Caitlin Delan. TV writer, comedian, hilarious person, had just the greatest fucking quote tweet of it, wrote, quote, we cannot believe someone knocked down these dominoes we spent months setting up, which is like, it's just so perfect. It's 100% true because here's one member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Adam Schiff. Here's something he wrote last year during the UCLA protests.

He wrote, Jewish students should feel safe on campus, period. That will never be the case if we allow situations like the one at Columbia, where anti-Semitic and hateful rhetoric is being loudly and proudly displayed to be tolerated. This needs to stop. I mean, like, listen, this framing of all of these pro-Palestine encampments on college campuses as being like hotbeds of anti-Semitism, the framing itself, is not only disingenuous, but it leads directly to this moment.

It leads all the, this is the dominoes that the Democrats have been setting up for months and months and months now with regards to this shit, just bending over backwards to buy into this narrative that anyone who is protesting in favor of ending a genocide is doing anti-Semitism. And this idea that these were violent and anti-Semitic and unsafe for Jews. Total fucking nonsense. Well, it's the framing from the jump. I mean, when this war started, it was framed as Israel versus Hamas. Yeah.

Right. Right. That's it. Black and white, two sides. So to the American mind from the framing they've been getting is if you're, you're, anti-Israel, you're pro Hamas. Right. Yeah. And so it's much easier to say, well, we have all these pro Hamas people at Columbia. Yes. And we got to get them out of here. We got to get them out of this country. We don't want, you know, all the terrorist attacks Hamas has done to this country. Right.

You're like in America? Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? Hamas wants to take over America. Really? Yes. Well, this is why, you know, at the beginning of all this. after October 7th, there was this concerted attempt to spread this, like, Hasbara hashtag, Hamas is ISIS. They just kept repeating this over and over again, which is like fundamentally untrue, like, just in terms of, they're also in opposition to each other. But like, just it was like, we need to associate, because no one in America in general knows what Hamas is, or at least knew what it was before October 7. So there were like, no one knows this word, no one knows this brand, we need to associate it with another brand that people do know. And so that way they could start claiming, you know, oh, remember those ISIS attacks?

Well, that's basically Hamas. Exactly. That's basically Hamas is Al-Qaeda, but then they realized that Al-Qaeda's on our side. Yeah, they're like, no, no. Wait, no, we kind of like Al-Qaeda. If Hamas really was ISIS, I mean, they'd be funding them. That's the right. Exactly. That's exactly right. Exactly, exactly. But here's the next part of that point. Yeah. Even if it was true that to be anti-Israel is to be pro-Hamas, you're allowed to be pro-Hamas under the First Amendment.

Yes. You're allowed to be pro-KKK. Yes. You're allowed to be pro-KKK. Yes. You're allowed to be pro, you know, you're allowed to stand on a street corner and say, you know. All the bad things.

All the buildings in downtown Manhattan should have come down on 9-11. You're allowed to listen to Bill Maher. Yes, yes. If you can listen to Bill Maher, you can pretty much do anything in this country. If you're not deported for weekly watching real time, then why would you be deported for anything else? There's nothing. And not because of the politics. Because it's not funny.

Yeah. Why would you watch that? You should go back to where you came from. But I will not force that because I believe in America. New rule. I am funny, actually, Matt Lee. New rule, Matt Lieb should be deported. Deport me back to my mom's house.

Yeah, it is, it's not. Also, there is sort of like a funny idea of like deporting a, like, someone in the Palestinian diaspora, it's like, well, where are you going to deport them? Are you going to deport them home? that like back to Palestine that would be sick yeah Mo made some good humor out of this on his show you know oh he did yeah well every time you know customs officials are like where are you from where's your past you know yeah yeah yeah i don't have one oh yeah yeah but then going back to the the the adam shifty shift tweet it starts with jewish students deserve to feel safe yeah as if that's like the number one job of the U.S. government and the U.S. Constitution and all branches of guard is to make sure that no Jewish student ever has a fleeting feeling of unsafety, whatever the fuck that means.

And we all know psychologically that safety is a, is, you know, your body feels safe. It feels unsafe. We can, our feelings of unsafe or trauma can be triggered by any number of things that either are or aren't happening in the person. present moment. Even a thought can make you feel unsafe. Yes, it's distinct from being unsafe. The idea of feeling unsafe that like to to to use executive power for the purported sake of feels unsafe is and these are the same people not Schiff but the right who made literally made fun of safe spaces. If you trans if you you you you know sub out Jewish students gay students deserve to feel safe. Trans students deserve to feel they would roundly mock that as a pretext for some kind of draconian policy to block the speech of much less deport anyone who's saying anything or participating anything that might lead those students to not feel safe and they'd be right to mock

it. Yes. Yes. It's it's like one of those things too. I feel like they're feeding them the idea of fear. You know, it's like if you see that tweet and you're a Jew student, you're like Well, I'm not scared, but should I be scared? Should I, yeah, should I be feeling scared? I didn't know I should be feeling scared. I was just going about my life as a... The Schiffmeister says I should be very scared. If Schiff says it, you know it's true.

Yeah, it's the new sensitive Gestapo. We've talked about this, going through the streets with a bullhorn being like, you don't wake up. There is anti-Semitism of wood. You must be scared. Be scared. We love you. I will protect you.

I will protect. Panic. wake up do not put your head in the sand fear fear for your lives yeah it's just like

it's it's it's nuts to watch this kind of it's sort of another version of scapegoating too and this is like the problem you know overall and it's not me

you know trying to center like you know Jews in the story where the victims are going to be Arabs and Muslims and Palestinians in general. But it's like this is scapegoating of we're doing this for the sake of the Jews. You know, you're talking about it when the White House, when the White House tweets Shalom Mahmood. Yes. I don't feel fucking safe.

And that's not even the first Shalom they've tweeted. Yeah. Yeah. No, they're quoting themselves on Shalom Hamas. Yes, yes. I mean, this is something that they, they do a lot with this like, you know, using Shalom. What I love about Trump was just like, shalom's a perfect word. It means hello and goodbye. I was just like, not even means. It means something else too. It means. There's a third thing it means. I'm not even going to get into it. I don't know what it is. And it's probably not relevant to this war I have going on. I just love how it's. Seems very obvious he'd just learn the word. Yeah. It's like he learned it also at the same time he learned that.

And aloha means the same thing. Hello, goodbye. You could say it whenever. Don't you get confused? Yeah. You know what? If you translate the Beatles song into Hebrew, it goes, Shalom, shalom.

Yeah. I don't know why you say shalom. I say shalom. Oh, man. Yeah. Like, no, I don't, you know, yeah. If you're talking about Jews feeling safe, yeah, I don't feel safe with you fucking saying Shalom Mahmood to someone who is a fucking green card holder, a U.S. resident, like, who

What's next? Like fucking cops reading, starting reading someone's Miranda rights with Baruchatah and I like, fuck off. Get my language and my tradition out of your mouth. Yeah. Authoritarian bullshit. That would be great. they started you. That'd be very funny.

You have the right to remain silent, Elohainu, Malau. Bless it be the Lord our God who sanctifies this arrest. That'd be so amazing. They lock them up. I am hereby detaining you under the laws of cash route. Ah, man. Or, O-Main, whatever y'all say. Jesus, this is fucking dark and dystopian.

Yeah, that's pretty funny. You can imagine this future where, like, now Jewish liturgy and scripture is brought into the police state as a kind of. I mean, if that's not what Palestinians are dealing with on a daily basis, I don't fucking know what is. Right. Well, that, I mean, that's literally called living in occupied Palestine. That is what living in fucking occupied Palestine is. And yeah, you know, it's to continue, you know, before. he was arrested and this is kind of like this is really chilling thing um you know so there were all these calls not in a good way yeah not like to chill but like scary not

this is not chilling with your homies i mean if you're with your homies then you're chilling this is uh this is one of those uh unsafe feelings that i think everyone can agree uh is valid uh so he is being you know dachs and attacked um and you know people are tweeting at Rubio, deport him, you know, to deport this guy. And he wrote to, um, the interim president of Columbia, Katrina Armstrong, a day before the arrest. And he wrote this message. Since yesterday, I've been subjected to a vicious, coordinated and dehumanizing doxing campaign led by Columbia affiliates Chai David I and David, uh, uh, letterer who among others have labeled me a security threat and called for my deportation. Their attacks have incited a wave of hate,

including calls for my deportation and death threats. I have outlined the wider context below, yet Columbia has not provided any meaningful support or resources in response to this escalating threat. I haven't been able to sleep, fearing that ice or a dangerous individual might come to my home. I urgently need legal support, and I urge you to intervene and provide the necessary protections to prevent further harm. They did not do that. Instead, what happened a day later was that DHS Department of Homeland Security agents

entered a student residential building at Columbia University and detained Mahmoud Khalil. According to his wife, while Khalil and she were entering the building, two plain-clothes DHS agents pushed past them to gain entry. They initially refused to identify themselves and threatened to arrest Khalil's wife if she tried to remain with him. Khalil's wife is a U.S. citizen, as I said before. The agents told Khalil that his student visa had been revoked when they were informed that he had a green card. The agents conferred with someone by phone and then said the green card had been revoked.

So this is like psycho gestapo, fascist, scary shit. Every time, you know, someone calls, you know, this administration fascist, I always see people kind of doing this eye-rolly thing when it comes to, you know, the Trump administration. Because people are like, oh, we're overusing the word. This is fascist. In this case, yeah. This is fascism. Straight up. To be able to confer on the phone and be like, oh, sorry, we just made a call directly to the

commentant. We called the furor on the furor hotline and Fuhr said, your piece of paper matters nothing. It does not matter to me. And it doesn't matter. And it doesn't matter which piece of paper it is. Whatever piece of paper it is, it's been revoked. By the way, the final boss of Zionism should be named David David. die.

Yeah, it should. David, Davey die. I just love the idea of a final boss. It's like King Cooper, but it's just this short,

skinny guy just stomping his foot. It's like, no, you have to jump between the fireballs. It's just so. This is not okay. Yeah. It's so crazy to me

how much effort and energy these guys put into like literally getting a single guy deported. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it really is, I mean, this is a testament to their efforts. You know, this is something that they have long been asking for, you know, to have this kind of power, to have this, to the ability to tweet out a list of people they want deported because of whatever perceived crimes they have done. And now they have it. We're going to get into what those crimes are. But first, we need to take a quick commercial break. to do a crime of capitalism. So please listen to these ads and possibly, I don't know, listen to them and that's it.

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We're here with Belal or Charmoo. What's up, Bella? What's up, baby? Oh, nothing. Just, you know, slowly dying of some sort of baby cold that I got. I'm fine. I took a little bit more day quill during the break. And now I feel like, you guys see men in black?

Remember when, I forget who it was, but they open up some guy and there's a little alien, like controlling the whole thing. guy oh yeah i feel like uh that's what i feel like that like the alien or the guy i think both i feel like there's an alien kind of controlling my body and it's making me do anti-semitism i don't want to but the alien made me do it um that's why we got to get space force on this anti-semitism here come self-hating jews all right they want you to do violent So to continue this story,

Mahmood, Khalil was arrested, detained, disappeared. He was gone. Nobody knew where the fuck he was. And, you know, all over, you know, the internet, social media, and in real life, you know, people were protesting outside of Colombia. There were protests everywhere. I was at a protest yesterday at the Javitz Federal Plaza building downtown New York. How was that?

It was good. I'm not a I don't yeah I don't chant that's my problem at protest I just can't yeah I know I just I just don't do it but people were and there was a march we marched up uh center street and yeah there was some good good speakers got got a got a few hey you're bad hesbarah oh hell yeah sightings that was nice but no the obviously the point of the protest was not for me to get recognized it was but it's not just a nice extra it's a nice election it's a nice election You should have got to recognize them left. Is that way?

Yeah. Well, I'm done here. I came here for a little ego boost. No, I, it does happen. That is, you know, there's always, there's always one percent of me that's like, if I go to this thing, someone may have listened to the podcast. What's the one square block in New York City right now where I'm most likely to remember? Definitely the Freemot-Mood Khalil. I need to make sure my girlfriend's next to me so she can see how popular I am. Um, but yeah, it is, uh, it is definitely, um, I mean, there were protests everywhere. I, I, I, I would have gone, uh, had there been one, you know, here in Los Angeles. But there should, there will be soon, uh, at UCLA, I believe, uh, these are going to break out everywhere. Um, and, and, and while this was happening, you know, uh, people protesting, people screaming free, Mahmoud Khalil, um, you had kind of like, just the usual suspect.

a chorus of usual suspects defending his arrest. This one really caught my eye. It's Eyal Yaobi. Mahmoud Khalil wasn't detained for, quote, opposing Israel. He's being deported for his involvement in trespassing, violently seizing buildings, causing thousands and damages assaulting police, and hospitalizing a Barnard staffer.

This isn't about, quote, free speech. This is about crime. That mood was busy. Yeah, he was doing a lot, dude. He was heavily involved. And here's the thing. Which reminds me at the time something is totally different.

But someone asked me, was, he, wasn't your dad involved in the Holocaust? I was like, involved is a choice. Yeah. I have the second generation. She's not wrong. Descendant of Holocaust to involve these.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, we were involved. They're technically right. Yeah, technically it makes him someone who was involved. You can't say he wasn't involved. You never say that. Yeah, I mean, like, the interesting thing about them like doing the, the chorus now is crimes. Everyone's just like, actually, you can deport people for doing crimes.

And, you know, you see this, like, attempt at using a protest as, like, they basically are calling anything violence that is associated with these protests, like, violently seizing buildings, like, is like, yeah, this is something that every fucking undergrad has done at some point, which is just like, it's called occupying a building. It's called a sit-in. They used to do these things in the 60s. people would chain themselves to a building people would close off the building it's just like that's forceful that's not violent the only violence took place that these things happened

when mobs of fucking you know rodent wielding like whatever they did at that protest in L.A., you know right right right throwing rats at people yeah or the cops themselves

the fucking NYPD the whatever else got deployed that's where the that's where the violence takes place if you read that tweet i mean you would think the guy was on a gta level crimes right it's like five fucking stars after him yeah no and like this incident with the barnard staffer uh there is zero evidence that he was involved in an incident in which a barnard staffer was uh injured uh and you know like this idea of like you know it's like we do this thing where we go like oh there were someone was injured someone was hospitalized someone was hurt someone was it's just like this this rhetoric is meant to

paint a picture of this guy and it's so interesting what these like pro-Israel folks see as like damning evidence of deportable crimes there's one uh that was from uh etan uh fisherberg or fishberg I call Fishburger. I call him Ethan Filo Fish. Yeah. Ethan Filo Fishburger said, when you see people gnashing their teeth and rending their garments over the arrest and potential deportation of Mahmoud Khalil, one of the lead Hamas acolytes at Columbia University show them this thread of his greatest hits.

Oh, boy. Sounds really damning. Yeah. And so I was like, all right, well, let's see these greatest hits. We use of the word gnashing by the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, my teeth feel. very, very rightly gnashed. I'm, I'm gnashing the shit out of them.

I'm living in Nashville. Call my mouth, Nashville, baby. So here is his smoking gun evidence. The university and leave the encampment here. Of course not. The university is the one who should listen to us. They should listen to their student body who are demanding to end their investment in the war that's happening in Palestine. Our demands are clear. Our demands are regarding divestment from the Israeli occupation, the companies that are profiting and contributing to the genocide of our people. Again, the university, once again, they are so stubborn and listening to their students.

They're treating this matter as a disciplinary matter. They're not treating this as an anti-war movement, an anti-war movement that actually gathered thousands of students here. that actually sparked thousands of students across the United States. How far are you all willing to go here on campus? We're going to go as far as we need to, to pressure the university to divest from the occupation. This is up to the group, to the leadership of the group to decide how far they will go.

But now it's clear that the students will remain here. They will stay here until they achieve their demands. Mickey Mads. Wow. What a gotcha. Gee, fucking burger. Listen, I take back everything I said about freeing this guy. This true psychopath here, out here, trying to pressure the Columbia campus to divest.

But did you not hear? He said he's going to do whatever it takes. They're going to take it as far as they need to. As far as they need to go. We'll get involved in anything. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and that is. That, I think, does imply doing Nazism.

Deported. Yeah. Bye. It's watching that video and reading that tweet, there's so incongruous that I'm like, wait, what's the thing here? Is it just that he has an accent and his name is Mahmood? Is that it? It's like, oh, you guys trust this guy? Listen to him, talk.

What makes him an acoly? Yeah. It's fucking. It's fucking. And, like, you're seeing these defenses of this run by people who spent their entire careers just being like, you know, the problem with, you know, liberal arts campuses is they're just filled with safe spaces and they're filled with, you can't, you know, you can't say anything conservative, you can't, it's, they're always talking about how free speech is at risk on campus. And now all of them are just like, yes, let's deport people doing free speech. Now they're like free speech is the risk on campus. Yes, yes.

And so this is from the free press. So Ryan Grimm gives some great background information here. The free press was founded like just a few months ago on the premise that campuses had been, had become too intolerant of diverse views and that, quote, safe spaces were a ridiculous construct to coddle feeble minded, feeble minds that couldn't even hear dissenting views without suffering, quote, harm, and that this was all due to suffocating helicopter parents who shielded their children. The answer was to defend free speech against the hall monitors. Now they're saying this.

And here is a little excerpt from one of the writers over at Barry Weiss's newly founded publication, The Free Press. ICE agents arresting protest leader Mahmoud Halil, his attorney says the administration is moving to cancel his green card. Maya Salkin is a Columbia graduate. She is a reporter and assistant editor for the free press. And it's so good to see you in person. His attorney says ISIS arrest and detention of Mahmoud follows the U.S. government's open repression of student activism and political speech, specifically targeting students at Columbia for criticism of Israel's assault on Gaza. Now that's his attorney.

How do you see it? Thank you so much for having me. Listen, this is someone who has been the engine behind so much of the violence that we have seen on campus since October 7th. And so no one is telling Khalil and students like him that they cannot peacefully protest or even say things that we disagree with. But what is happening is violence. It is harassment. It is harassment. It is causing thousands of dollars in property damage and sending public safety officers to the hospital.

So we are not talking about free speech anymore. we are talking about crimes. You graduated from Columbia, so you're very familiar with this. There is a, the head of the Columbia Jewish Alumni Association, said every American citizen should be concerned when students are encouraging terrorist activities on U.S. soil. I agree. Was he encouraging terrorist activity? Was he just protesting Israel?

I mean, listen, in Milbank Hall just a few days ago, and in Milstein Library, I mean, three days ago, he was handing out flyers from the Hamas media outlet, which is not an exaggeration, literally the Hamas logo on these flyers. I mean, these are people that call October 7th a glorious day. They are carrying Hamas flags. If that is not espousing terrorist activity, I really do not know it is. I mean, listen, in Milstein Hall, he was doing some horrible things. In Rosenberg Square, he was... Catsman Plaza, he... Yeah, he was at the Goldman Quadrangle and he was passing out flyers.

I shouldn't. Sometimes I veer into it on the show. I mean, and listen, and that's a funny thing about New York, though, is it just... It is like the one place where I'm like, wait, is this the promised land? Why is everything here have Jewish names? It is a, you know, it is a beautiful... Listen, I think that's our Israel. We should just move to New York.

that's where we are not going to let these students stand in the middle of Rosencats and Bergerstein Plaza and say that the Jews control everything that's so funny listen uh Jewish last names are very funny I will say recently there was a tweet by somebody who was saying like I didn't leave the Democratic Party the Democratic Party left me and his name was Will Sussman and I was like his last name is Sussman yeah So, listen, a lot of allegations there. If you were to watch that, you know, in complete, you know, isolation, you would be like, oh, man, this guy, this guy's some sort of terrorist leader. He must be accused of some, a lot of shit. What is Mahmoud actually accused of? And so we're going to, I'm going to tell you that now. So he's charged with zero things.

So he has been accused by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. of quote, leading activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization. So that is, the idea, leading activities aligned to Hamas is not a statute anywhere in law. It's also not syntactical, aligned to. Yeah, aligned to, like. Aligned with would be the grammar.

But also just this idea of alignment and leading activities. I mean, by this definition, if this were written into law, if this were a statute, that would apply to everything, including this podcast, which I have no doubt that will, at some point, we will be accused of being leading activities aligned to Hamas. And if one of us wasn't an American citizen, boy, oh boy, things might get a little dicey for that guy. I mean, luckily, even though you're Canadian, I think Canada is going to be our 51st state. I think Trump's taking it. you're in luck you're in luck you get our wonderful constitution great so i can have my citizenship revoked yes exactly they'll take it away and send you back to hungry um you get our constitution that we don't follow yeah exactly yeah you get a little bit of our constitution we don't follow and you lose your

health care sounds like a good deal have fun have fun welcome to hell um so this accusation is tied to prominent role in pro-Palestine protests in organizing pro-Palestine protests at Columbia University in 2024, particularly as a lead negotiator for the Columbia University apartheid divest group, which advocated for the university's divestment from Israel. The Department of Homeland Security statement further suggested that his activism is viewed by the administration as supporting or endorsing Hamas, which the U.S. recognizes as a terrorist organization. I get it now.

It's his role as a lead negotiator. You know what Israel does to lead negotiators. Oh, that's right. They do kill negotiators. Big time. He's lucky he wasn't in Iran. That's one of the most violent things a terrorist can do is be a lead negotiator.

Yeah, exactly. That is one way to negotiate. It's the easiest way to get them, by the way. Yeah. You want to talk? Yeah, come to this office building. We don't negotiate with terrorists. We terrorize negotiators.

Wow. Wow. Oh, my God. If this mic wasn't hooked up to my desk, I'd drop it. Hell, yeah. So they're also, you know, reporting that, you know, he's being accused of glorifying Hamas's October 7th attack. and Newsweek and others reported he faced allegations of orchestrating and quote

unauthorized marching event that praised his attack. That's just a misunderstanding. He orchestrated the sheet music for the marching band. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, listen, listen, listen. He's actually going to give this part to the timpani. Yeah.

Tempani is not a marching band. It's right. You could march with the timpani if you had a really good, like, crane more a sousaphone type you know thing uh but yeah like he did an unauthorized marching event and uh you know this is this is being again these are all like this is the accusations that are leading to him potentially being extra judiciously fucking deported from the country like insane so his attorney uh amy career has stated that no specific criminal charges or allegations of fraud have been formally presented to his

legal team framing his detention as a retaliatory action against his political speech rather than a response to a concrete crime, which I think we can all agree is fucking obviously what's happening here. Yeah, so he is accused of nothing. There are no charges against him right now, at least not that his legal team knows about, which is like, who would know, his legal team would be informed of actual charges. Essentially, he's been textbook definition of disappeared by the government. That's what this is. This is what, you know, fascist dictatorships have done, you know, forever. And it's, there's, there's no excuse. for it anyone who is like pretending to be you know some sort of like you know liberal democrat or even

the conservatives who are like free speech pro constitution guys it's just totally insane let me ask you this obviously there's no basis for this we all know that and i even think they know that um do you guys think that anything will come up of this or is this just one big dog and pony show just to kind of like it's a great question it's a great question i mean what what will end up happening with this seems to be it it's hard to know i like i want to be optimistic about it you know i don't want to i i don't want to immediately say like oh yeah they're getting you know because a judge has stopped this from happening yeah and and and ordered all parties to appear tomorrow morning guess where in new york yeah i'm not sure if that means get halil's ass back to new york to new york

I hope so. But at least his lawyers and the government's lawyers, and there's going to have to be some burden of proof here. Yeah, yeah. Especially like once you're in front of a court, once you're in front of like a judge, you do have to have a law that has been broken and an offense where there's precedent for, you know,

some sort of drastic, action like a deportation. For what they're saying, there better be a video of him tying a Hamas flag around a kid's neck, you know? Right. Right. And that's the thing is it's like what there will be, I'm sure, is, you know, like evidence of leading to him being painted as like this Hamas guy. Like they're going to be like, here's a flyer he put out. Here's some graffiti that he did. Here was a broken window he was near what does this picture paint you know what there's going to be is evidence that could show

that columbia might want to do some disciplinary action within because he broke school rules this is not i mean at at worst yeah there's nothing deportable in here i just sent you something from the new york times matt what is mr halil being accused of right because we just said there's going to have to be some charge that is not very clear says the new york times mr rubio reposted a Homeland Security Department statement that accused Mr. Khalil of having led activities aligned to Hamas, which is what you said before, Matt. But officials have not accused him of having any contact with the terrorist group, taking direction from it, or providing material support to it.

Rather, the administration's rationale is that the protests that Mr. Khalil played a key part in were anti-Semitic and created a hostile environment for Jewish students at Colombia, the people with knowledge of the matter said. Mr. Rubio's argument, they said, is that the United States' foreign policy, includes combating anti-semitism across the globe, and that Mr. Hillel's residency in the nation undermines that policy objective. I mean, it's like, you know, we have this policy.

We're trying to combat anti-semitism. It's a bad look for us to let this guy who was involved with these. I mean, there's so many leaps of logic. Yes. There's so many if-trues that are not true. Yes. In that, in that, that convoluted rationale that I can't imagine a judge. doing anything but just kind of taking his glasses off and like leaning on his hand and like

you know staring at them like like oh you got a point no i i imagine him doing the kind of thing from some hollywood movie where you know he just the kindly judge or the or the not so kindly judge has to admit there's nothing here you would figure you would figure uh so i don't i don't know what's going to happen i mean it does you know the question is when it comes to the trump administration especially is always just like the question you always have is can they do that and and the answer is yes unless somebody stops them uh apparently what they can do is abduct someone outside of their home and then fly them to Louisiana to be deported.

Like, had a judge not stopped this from happening, would it have happened? I think the answer is yes. And does it have a chilling effect even if the deportation doesn't go through? Yes. I mean, it's the ripping you out of your home in front of your eight-month pregnant wife.

Yeah. Which, you know, imagine the stress hormones flooding her body right now. like yeah just what a what a thing to be going through yeah i hope macmoot is counting those millions in his head and like what he's going to do i i think that it would be beautiful justice to at the very least see a nice uh civil lawsuit against uh both the government and columbia university for uh allowing this to continue i mean it's so funny because everything that the zionists and pro Israel crowd accuses, you know, Columbia of doing to, you know, aid and abet these, you know,

terrorist organizations who are having a chilling effect on the campus. It's like every accusation of confession. I mean, Columbia University shouldn't be losing 400, you know, $400 million, you know, that Trump is stopped from federal grants because they're doing anti-Semitism. They should lose that money because they've created this environment in which you literally can be expelled and be arrested and deported for organizing and doing free speech on a campus. Well, so I have, oh, go ahead. I was going to say, and the whole point of this was to make students feel safe on campus. Yeah. You specifically, but you know who doesn't feel safe right now on campus what Palestinian students the students who thought they had free speech the

students who thought they could organize and come together and peacefully protest what they believe is right I mean I'm sure everybody doesn't feel safe right now and immigrants from all over who might be anywhere in in political speech or action but so here's then my next question would be okay So if we know that the so-called defenders of the free press are going along with this and cheering it on, what about like civil liberties groups like the ADL? What do they have to say about it, man? Well, thank God the ADL is here. And, you know, they have been staunch defenders of civil rights, civil liberties for decades and decades.

So their response, I think, was obvious from the jump. It is. We firmly believe that there should be a swift and severe consequence for those who provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations, incite violence in support of terrorist activities, or conceal their identities in order to harass and intimidate Jewish individuals and institutions with impunity. We appreciate the Trump administration's broad, bold set of efforts to counter campus anti-Semitism. and this action further illustrates that resolved by holding alleged perpetrators responsible for their actions. Alleged perpetrators responsible for their absolutely not alleged already proven actions. Proven actions.

Yes. We don't know if they're perpetrators, but we definitely know that these actions have been done. These actions that there's no charges for whatsoever. Obviously, this is the last. paragraph in which they throw a bone to their, to their old mask that they used to wear. Obviously, any deportation action or revocation of a green card or visa must be undertaken in alignment with required due process protections. We also hope that this action serves as a deterrent to others who might consider breaking the law on college campuses.

That's such a funny paragraph to put those. two sentences together. Yeah, right. They're like, obviously, yeah, due process. They can't just go ahead and deport him. But in the meantime, we hope that this very likely illegitimate action will deter people. Yes. No matter whether or not there is due process and whether or not he gets deported.

Because the point is the deterrence from speech we don't like. 100%. That's, I mean, it gives away the whole fucking game here. And also, I mean, let's be, let's be 100% real. the ADL does not give a shit about due process. There's going to be, you're going to see a select few people who are out there going like, here's the thing. I obviously hate this Mahmoud Khalil guy.

Everything he stands for is disgusting. And I believe he is a Nazi. And I believe he and generations of his family deserve nothing but pain. But I do think he should have a fair trial in front of a jury of his own peers. And it's like, I know. it's coming because this entire liberal Zionist mindset is going to be like, well, no, what this is about is enforcing laws and laws are important. This is this quick, like, you know, crime to right-wing fascist pipeline, where people are going

like, no, I'm a liberal guy just like everybody else, you know, I believe in all sorts of stuff. But I believe that we got to stop crime. And sometimes stopping crime means writing new laws in which brown people of certain ethnicities can't have, say the words that we don't want them to. Well, credit where credit is due, you know, liberal Zionist supreme, Shail Benifriam has been very, very clearly against this. Good for him. Very good for him.

A little scooby snack for him. Scooby snack for every liberal Zionist who's just like, wait, wait, wait, guys, this is too far. Guys, you can't let them actually know. Listen, the genocide, fine. Yeah. But yeah, it is, it is like, it's crazy to me seeing like the ADL respond like that. I mean, just any, any institution that in any way, you know, pretended to be some sort

of pro-civil liberties group defending this. It's a mask off moment. anyone who has pretended to be a pro free speech guy anyone who has pretended that they value the constitution over anything else they're all fucking lying uh and this is all serving the same fascist needs and it's it's fucking nuts it's fucking if they weren't lying then their eyes are starting to open up yeah yeah i mean you're seeing that too and you're seeing well how far are some people willing to go in order to like just kind of back the shit up. Are they like, okay, well, you know, because like at some point you start like, you start

going, well, first they came for the communist and I said nothing because like you start doing that poem at yourself. You go like, oh, should I be one of those say nothing guys? Or should I say something? First they came for Mahmuh Khalil and I said nothing because my name's not Mahmuh Khalil. Yeah. Or anything close. And then they just keep doing that. And it doesn't even sound like me. had infinitum. It's just like, yeah, none of these are your name, dog. God damn. Then they came from my next door neighbor. And I said nothing because I live in this house, not his house. I never really talk to the guy. It really is these mask off moments. Yeah. That like you said, that I think, you know, eventually we'll turn the time. It's like I, you guys

probably talked about this, but that Zionist comedian in Chicago. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. who's doing all the genocide jokes. I mean, I like to imagine he was just like in a comedy class and he invited all his friends to the graduation. And they showed up and he starts just spewing hate speech. And they're like, oh, man. You can't let them know. You can't let them know what we actually think.

Yeah, guys, this was, we were doing these jokes for each other at the JCC. This is not like open mic night material here. And I'm a proponent for comedy. I think, you know, anything. is funny if you can make it funny. I almost took caragliding lessons for a goof. There's a weight limit. I'm sorry, buddy.

If it's not funny, it's not funny. That would have been really funny. But yeah. And this is a case where, you know, we spoke about it earlier in the episode. The prospect and it's already happening that some corners of MAGA are going to get really tired of this shit. This would be a great moment for some cross-ideological tactical team-ups, you know, some conversations with, you know, because you need a kind of broad-based movement against this. I will say, like, credit, you know, if I'm going to credit anyone who I'm not

fully ideologically aligned with, I will say the comedian Dave Smith, who was like a libertarian. 100% consistent on Israel. 100% consistent on Israel. And he's consistent on this issue completely. Like he's just like, how is any other libertarian in favor of this? What's O'R? Anyone who like claims to have these libertarian values. And he's right.

He is consistent about this completely. Can't be a hypocrite. Yeah. But I mean, meanwhile, you know, you have, you know, this whole trial, everything that's going on with Mahmood. I think, like, his charges are 100% Hezbara-based. You know, everything he is being charged with is some fucking bit that we've done on this podcast. You know, it is, it is completely being, it's being workshopped in the media. Recently on CNN, there was a moment that I have to play because it's just, it's just, illustrates perfectly exactly.

how this is going to go, maybe not in court, but definitely in the media. He came here on a student visa. He's paid by a terrorist organization that the heads babies. The heads babies, I have evidence. So I'm sorry, just to be clear, you're alleging that he's paid by who?

He's a paid protester. By who? Well, I didn't ask my intelligence division exactly who paid for him, but. I'm sorry. So this is Bruce Blakeman, who is a Republican, what does it say, executive Nassau County, New York. He's my wife's ex-husband. You know, Paul McCartney is married to his ex-wife, right?

Wait, what? Yeah. Oh, wow. Wait. His wife left him. Are you serious? No, absolutely serious. This guy is a Paul McCartney impression tie-in from beginning.

this is a callback he is he was previously married to nancy chevel who is now married to paul mccartney of oh my god what a bull what a pull holy shit yeah uh i love this this is incredible imagine imagine losing the love of your life to paul mccartney to paul mccartney you can't listen to it's just a whole fucking just universe of music you're never allowed to listen to without You'll notice he never uses the word yesterday in spoke inferences. Never, never. You always just say, you know, the day before. One day previous to now.

Yeah. That's a pretty explosive allegation. Who is he being paid by? Can I ask you a question? No, no. You said you had evidence. What was, is the question going to be, who is he being paid by? Because you can't answer it.

Well, he's being paid by. He's being paid by. I mean, by organizations that are anti-American that are engaged in nefarious activities. My intel, I don't ask my intelligence division to give me. His intelligence division is an executive, a county executive. Yeah, I don't know who this. In Nassau County, Long Island. He's a Long Island guy.

The guy is at the subway, at the sandwich shop. Can you imagine the MOOCs who work in intelligence in Long Island? just be like oh yeah okay uh i heard word from my cousin who's cause other cousin lives in israel and he says that this macmood guy's into some fucking shady shit he's getting paid by all sorts of guys uh fucking uh hammas he's getting paid by iran he getting paid by george sorrows in fact like a lot of the money is i'm going to be completely honest he's fucking jewish money over here i'm just saying russia problem this guy's getting paid by russia Don't tell anyone, but I heard from Marty and Ronkonkima that this guy is involved.

He's heavily involved in some shit. You live in this place called Qatar? Yeah. You got a, you got some good that carter money. You got a fucking Indiegogo. Those guys are probably sending emails on Windows 95. Yeah. Yeah.

His intelligence guys, they don't have the specifics, but they got a. They got a lot of hearsay from, heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend. I think the first, I think the first, you know, thing you should have for an intelligence job is probably intelligence. Yeah, you'd assume, you'd assume intelligence, like, having, at the very least, the facts, like, if your intelligence guy goes, oh, these guys, he's being funded by, you know, foreign terrorist organizations, wouldn't you be like, oh, shit, who? No, no, absolutely. Our country's best intel comes from the Hamptoms division. Strong and wrong island. Yeah.

Do you know what's being paid by? I don't. You want the Bugs Bunny. Wait, now he's going around asking everybody else. Do you know? I don't fucking know. Do you? You want to ask your intelligence division?

He's making Anna Navarro look good. Yeah, that's fucking wild. Are you okay with what he's doing? I'm not alleging he's doing. Are you okay with that? I don't know. Are you okay with anti-Semitism? Oh, fucking.

Just back to this fucking like fake moral high ground bullshit. Are you okay with it? Oh, so you're pro this then. That's what, when you're asking me to say who and about what intelligence I learned, that just means you like Hamas. That's all it means. He's being paid by organizations. Who?

I didn't ask my intelligence division. Yeah, but who is it? Let me ask you a question. Do you like Auschwitz? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Schindler's list? Your sick voice is actually really good.

good for doing this guy. Yeah, I know. It works out very well. I'm getting hot. I'm going to take off this jacket. Yeah, dude, it's like fucking crazy. And, you know, he started off that, that, you know, tirade with like, uh, this guy is being paid by, you know, terrorist organizations, organizations that behead babies. Like, the dude is repeating this beheaded baby has barred from like early on. This is how this whole thing is going to be fought. It's going to be fought with like, oh, we know, we know. We know. We're just not going to tell you right now. I mean, that is a great strategy. If you don't want to answer the question,

just say, can I ask you a question and then ask them the same question? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good way to find out an answer. Let me ask, let me answer your question with a question. Do you know the answer to the thing? Because that would be, that would be very helpful. I literally joined my intelligence division. I wish I had just been there. I wish I had been there.

Do you live on Long Island? Yeah. Yeah, do you ever go to Long Island? We're looking for a couple of guys. Do you know the crab check? They kind of hang out there and they just kind of just go around and ask. You're an Islanders fan? Yeah, you like Islanders?

You have Windows 95? Let me ask you a question. You ever listen to Billy Joel? Yeah. Can I ask you a question. Who did start the fire? Because I don't know. I got a whole list of people who might have done it.

I know the fire has been started. Yeah, I know. We know that we know that much. My intelligence is working on the room. My intelligence is working on who the alleged fire starters are. Yeah. Could be the band prodigy. We don't know.

Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, hamas, hamas, hamas, hamas, hamas, that's the That's the only lyric to the Zionist version if we didn't start the line. Oh, okay. I thought you were doing karma chameleon with karma chamehamehamea. Hama, hamas me and the, uh. that whole exchange is just fucking it's just it's just insane it's completely insane and you know this whole like funding thing is just so it's so funny because you know when he said paid protesters i was just like there's going to be some sorrow shit coming out and i'm very excited

for this you know we're only two months into the trump administration and there's also there's already this future of like attacking jews uh anti-semitically insupportive Israel. And you see this, you know, last thing I'll show is the judge who stopped the deportation of Mahmoud Khalil was attacked recently by Laura Lumer. Yeah, this was a good one. And Laura Lumer wrote this, exclusive. The wife of U.S. federal judge Jesse Furman, who just opposed President Trump's deportation order of Palestinian for a national Mahmoud Khalil is named Arella Doubler, both of them are leftist Jews. And she was appointed to the U.S. Commission of International Religious Freedom by Chuck Schumer in 2024. Like, she is, she is going to start attacking Jews. Like, you're just going to see this more and more where they're just going to be like, you know, we would be able to, you know, stop all of the, you know, Jewish hatred on campuses if it wasn't for all these fucking Jews. that I hate, that I hate, who should fear for their lives and fear for the lives of their friends.

Oh, you know, it's a beautiful future we have. It's going to be, it's going to be a great point. There was more of that tweet, wasn't there? At the bottom, she talks about how leftist Jews are the biggest enemy. They're such self-haters. Oh, I, you know, when I see like one of those paragraph, multi-paragraph tweets, I kind of do the, I ain't reading all that. He goes, you don't make it about that far. Yeah.

Yeah, the rest of that tweet, I'm sure we could find. Yeah, at the very end, she says, along with the banon doctrine. Oh, what's that? She brings out the ban on doctrine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the very end, she brings out the ban and doctrine where she says, along with jihadists, leftist Jews are some of our biggest enemies in America. They are so self-loathing.

And I got to say, where's the lie? where's the lie where's the lie i listen self-loathing it's all right to loathe ourselves fuck off it's in the constitution get out of my therapist's office yeah my my psyche my choice yes and laura you can't come to me looking like fucking the penguin's third ex-wife she looks like gargamel She, yeah, looking like Gargamel and just be like, you guys are so self-loathing. Have you ever looked in a mirror that you haven't punched? Come on. Don't tell me about self-loathing.

Your entire life is based on your self-loathing. And again, we have the right. The First Amendment protects self-loathing. Yes. What are you going to deport us for self-loathing now? Fuck you. Congress shall make no law abridging the right of Americans or anyone on American soil. Yeah.

think that they themselves are a piece of shit. Yeah, to sit and just introspectively just go, oh, God, I got to read more books. I read all my books with my ears, but I can't read them with my eyes no more. That's me. That's me doing self-loathing. I don't know how you self-loathing. Honestly, it's called self-reflection. And honestly, self-criticism, it's good for the soul. So I'm an peridore. I'm a loser baby, so why don't you deport me? Beautiful. And on that note, that has been an episode of Bad Hasbara. Belal Sharmoog, thank you so much for coming back on and talking about Hasbara with us. Where can people find you? You can find me at well-fed comic on all platforms. Follow me like my stuff. Yeah. He's a hilarious

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