Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara 97: Down With The Glickness, with Brace Belden

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

Matt and Daniel are joined by returning champion Brace Belden (TrueAnon) to examine Betar’s one-time figurehead - the oddly shaped Ross Glick - as well as Brace’s aversion to the Ivy League and whether Tarantino’s Bear Jew presupposes the existence of twink and otter Jews.Donate to the Palestine Red Crescent Society: https://www.palestinercs.org/enSee Matt and Francesca Fiorentini at Cobb’s in San Francisco on May 7: http://bit.ly/mattfrancobbsVisit TrueAnon at https://podcast.trueanon.com/Subscribe to the Patreon https://www.patreon.com/badhasbaraSubscribe/listen to Bad Hasbara wherever you get  your podcasts.Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/5RDvo87OzNLA78UH82MI55Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-hasbara-the-worlds-most-moral-podcast/id1721813926Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Wow, we're doing everything backwards today? The world's most moral podcast, which is the tagline that some Zionist this week decided to take absolutely literally. Yeah, that was amazing. In a big thread about how Jewish anti-Zionists are narcissists. Yeah. And like listing, you know, like Raphael Shimonov, you know, Simone. Zimmerman, all of our past guests, and then she finally comes to, and Matt Leib's podcast calls itself the most moral podcasts in the world, I'm out. Yeah, as if, yeah, I think I quote tweeted like,

yeah, wouldn't that be insane if someone self-applied the label most moral? That would be fucking psychopathic, I swear. Her bio is law student who talks shit on the internet. And I said, yeah, law student who talks shit on the internet without being able to grasp the most basic satirical reference don't you have to take a test to go to law school don't you isn't there like don't you isn't there a certain amount of like i don't know just like study that goes into it at the very least you need to be able to um understand i social cues there's i just was like i was amazed i was like you you passed the fucking what is it the mcat what's that's medical school You pass the L-Sat

And you think I'm actually calling this the most moral I think we are accidentally though The Most Moral podcast Oh indubitably We said it as a joke but she's not wrong in that I do think we are We are the Most Moral podcast both ironically and unironically And welcome everyone to it Like he said he's Matt Lieb and I'm Daniel Mate

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I'm pulling out because of the song, Dignity, which is one of my favorites. Which one? Well, dignity. It's sort of an outtake from the O' Mercy sessions, and I just love the song. It's actually one of my favorite Dylan songs. And then love and theft, which I like so much better than the Grammy winning time out of mind. I just think it's a great album. It's funny.

It's heartfelt. Funny. He's got a glint in his eye for the first time in a while. The previous album was all about how almost dead he was and just how moribund he was feeling. And he had almost died around that time. But love and theft is just full. What are you almost die from? I don't know.

Some kind of infection? I forget. That sucks. I didn't know that. Well, shout out to Bob Dylan. He's still kicking. He felt like he was knocking on Heaven's Door. There we go.

Is that a Dylan song? Mm-hmm. Look at that. Yeah, no, Guns and Rose is originally recorded it, but he covered it in the 19-70s. Okay. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, it's, you know, here's the thing.

I've listened to early Dylan, and I was like, it feels like a cartoon of a 60s guy. I never got over the fact that it just felt like a front. Even though I know he's like the original. but it was a front. No, but 100% was a front. It was just a really good front and an ever-evolving front. It was a very, it, his voice is different on every single album. His writing style is different. And by the time he's three or four albums in, he's inventing fronts that have never been fronted before. Well, that's fun. I just feel like

this was like, you know, before there was podcasting, there was, you know, doing folk music in Greenwichville. village and this is just I'm just like watching early podcasters talk about stuff and I'm like I have no interest but you know people like him and it's okay to like him and I probably don't see a complete unknown in that case yes I won't but our guest today apparently big Dylan fan he is a returning champion of bad has bar the co-host of the true and on podcast ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, please welcome back to the show, Brace, Belden.

A pleasure to be here. I'm going to be doing just a fair warning or forewarning, both of... Fair and four. I'm going to be doing a little bit of coughing during this. That's fine. Cough.

A little bit of coughing. With my giant headphones, Jesus Christ. Well, you know, you could get the little ones. But, nope, I cannot. But I will be doing a little bit of coughing because I'm a little sick still. Oh, no. What do you have?

It's not your, that's HIPAA. It's not your business. but a cold. Okay. We'll leave it there. We don't have to get into more detail. No, I have like a drug-resistant syphilis, but it's manifesting as a cold.

Speaking of Dylan, I'm sure you've addressed this on the show before. Is he still Christian? No. No, he went back to being a- I think so. Wasn't it in a small period? Yeah, he released three albums

between 1980 and 80, maybe 79 and 82 that were his Christian face slow train coming saved and shot of love yeah and then on his very next album infidels he the cover art is him in jerusalem and includes the song neighborhood bully which is his apologia for uh for for you know poor victimized Israel and I don't think he's been uh Christian since we got to get him we got to get him to Islam he's because he's got to try he needs he needs a prophet yeah 100% Certain other folk singer, a British one. That's right.

Really only his first two albums are good. But they're perfect all the way through, both of them. He didn't just convert. He changed his last name to the fucking name of the religion. Yes. Yusuf Islam, he's called now? Yusuf Islam, that's right. Formerly known as Cat Stevens.

That's right. And so did the drummer for the pink fairies, Twink, who of course prior to that word being used to describe thin gay men, put out an excellent album called Twink Think Pink That was on I can't remember what it was on But it was Chiswick Records I believe

It was in the Pink Fairies I think he was kind of in the Hawkins scene He became a Sufi guy Oh okay And I believe Tunisia And I used to correspond with him Occasion on Facebook Actually I used to write him messages

Asking him if he Just questions And he would respond with basically nonsense but he was pretty cool so I mean I'm sure our listeners will correct me on this but is Sufi Islam is that like is that like what it's same thing as being a

reform Jew where it's like it's Islam light no it's more like being a mystical it's close to being a Lubavich Lubavich Jew except you don't harass people on the street they're the ones with the whirling dervishes Hafez and Rumi are closer

to that tradition it's very poetic it's mystical meditative okay all right so it's so you're saying it's not like reform Judaism you might have been thinking of Sunni which would also not be like reformed Judaism I think I was thinking of Sunni

I don't think I want to talk shit about either Sunni nor Shia but I feel like Sufi I wasn't even talking shit I'm just trying to know what it is you know make a comment in the comment section correcting any of the things we say about Islam because I'll admit

I know very little I only know a little bit of Islam. You want to draw us a sketch of the prophet while you're at it, Matt? Which is the Jew with the lesbians? That's the reform? That's reform. Okay.

Yeah, reform is like, you know. It's all lesbian? It's, I think 100% lesbian. You have to be a lesbian. I was a reconstructionist because there's so many butch lesbians in the construction field and they like to reconstruct. There's a, okay.

Yeah, I got it was just saying, yeah, could be it. Yeah, they like the yellow vest. It looks good. Yeah, at our temple, there was a gay canter. And we were, and a gay. Rabbi. Well, I mean, I'm just saying. A gay canter? I mean, they sing really well. You're going to not let them sing? No, no, no. I'm saying, I'm saying probably probably a lot of gay canters out. There's probably a lot of gay canter. This one out. This one was out. And fabulous. Shout out to the gay

canter of that temple I'm talking about. They were just known as the gay canter. Yeah, I don't know. Now everyone, please rise as the gay canter leads us in the Amida. Yeah, fabulous rendition. So, listen, Brace, I was going through Twitter the other day, and I saw you talking about this guy, Ross Glick. Yeah. And it- I love him. It fascinated me. You've been on a tear, just generally speaking, before we get into Ross-Cook.

You've been on a Twitter tear recently on the Twitter or not, the True and-on-X account. Like, just, you've been my favorite reply guy of late. I realize that it's legal again to talk to conservative women and conservative men Finally But I think I'm I think I'm just being a flirt online

I do I do think I might have reached the end of my rope though I had the juice back I think I'm juiced out But you know these things come in ways Yeah it was a good way Glick When you when you kind of encounter a freak Of that caliber

And I want to want to preface everything I'm saying here, everything I'm saying here with Ross Glick. I'm just going to actually read from his website real quick. Yeah, please. Because I think this is a legal warning we have to put at the top of this episode. Yes. I actually have it as well right here if you want to. If I'm remembering correctly, Glick in Yiddish means joy.

Oh. Or happiness. What's that? Like Jiminy Glick. Yes. That's sort of, yeah, his father. Yeah. um oh my god he changed his oh my god he might have taken of your show i think he actually

took it off of his website damn he must have just he must have just he put it at the bottom he put it at the bottom so i want to say this this is this is legally i think it's necessary to say this before we say anything else upon information belief false and defamatory statements against ross glick haven't posted online in various sources such as new york post and palestadian news network It must be stated unequivocally that Ross Glick is not a sex criminal. He has never been convicted of a crime and any statements to the opposite are legally actionable and will not be tolerated. To be clear, Ross Glick has never been convicted of any crime, let alone a sex crime. Any claims to the contrary are outright falsehoods and constitute defamation, which include libel and slander.

Furthermore, Mr. Glick's co-parent referenced in the erroneous New York Post article is a mother of his third child. Unfortunately, they both admit they were in a toxic relationship. Although it was a long-term relationship that unfortunately became contentious at times, Mr. Glick's co-parent acknowledges that she is not the victim of any crime. In fact, they've since reconciled or are peacefully co-parenting their child together. Not only was the New York Post article in sensationalized hit piece, piece is misspelled there, so this is legally no longer valid, in deceptive narrative, but it is blatantly false without proper fact-checking by the journalist.

The article's author is not a reputable journalist and did not conduct any independent investigation into the facts. The journalist never reached out to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office for verification, nor did she attempt to contact Glick's attorney for a statement. This lack of due diligence is not journalism. It is reckless, agenda-driven defamation, targeting a successful Jewish businessmen. It goes on for a long time. It goes on for a while.

Ross Glick's third child submitted to a lie detector test during which they rated Ross Glick's physical touching of them on a scale out of of 10, 10 being the creepiest, a mere 4.5. So, so Daniel is doing, Daniel is doing slander there. Yes, it's in a non-actual, it's parody. This guy has a, so I just want to say, before we say anything else about this character, this notice is on his website, I've read this notice, I'm not accusing Ross Glick of a sex crime. Absolutely not.

I'm acknowledging that Ross Glick has written a statement that says that he has never been accused or convicted, rather, of any, convicted of any, any crime, let alone a sex crime. That's right. That's right. So he's not... Shoddick showed up at my door, knocked, and I went to open the door. He was standing there shouting that statement at me. Yeah, exactly.

In accordance with Megan's law, I'm going around door to door to tell everyone, I never touched them kids. I've never done a sex criminal. I've never fucked with anybody. It's all... It's on his business card. Ross Glick, not a sex criminal. It sounds like you guys need to hear more.

Any revenge porn charges? were immediately dismissed to Glick's arraignment. In fact, and this is bolded, in fact, all criminal charges were dismissed. The only remaining charge that Mr. Glick faced was the non-criminal violation of harassment in the second degree. Harassment of the second degree in New York is a violation that involves intentionally harassing, annoying, or alarming another person. It is a violation, not a crime, and the maximum penalty is 15 days in jail for not a crime,

and a $250 fine. This is the legal equivalent to a parking ticket. Yeah, violence and sex are nowhere to be found in the legal definition of harassment. Wouldn't a parking ticket be a legal equivalent to a parking ticket, but I'm no lawyer. I'm not sure. I've never had a parking ticket and I'm not a sex criminal, so I can't comment on either. Yeah, it is. I've had a lot.

I'm going to go on the record here and say I've had lots of parking tickets, which apparently is one to one. Same thing as doing revenge for. The equivalent of having harassed, you know, about six people and gone to jail. for about 45, 90 days. I've never driven a car and I'm a virgin. So I feel like I have a lot of space to talk here. There we go. This seems like one of those things where, listen,

the New York Post called me a socialist grifter. They called me a bunch of names last year. Well, it's because you're a successful Jewish businessman. I'm a small businessman. I'm a small businessman, to be clear, which is the backbone of this country. But I'm a successful small business. And your business is small too.

My business is small. Yeah. They've called me a lot of names There was some libel I might have called the reporter I might have called the reporter's son at one point Oh shit Well on the show

You know But I know I think I called the son off the show But But he didn't pick up But You don't see me putting a thing on the website Saying I'm not a grifter I wouldn't open with it

You know It's a you know There's a famous Jewish woman Who is in a movie With a very handsome guy That I can't remember But I think it says time goes by Barbara Streisand

And she famously The Streisand effect Everyone knows what that is You know something about her house She didn't want something written About her house And she you know Made a stink about it

And then the small article Became the focus of big news Yes Mr. Glick You must take You must take advice From the Streisand You must remember this

A diss is just a dis It's just a dis It's just crazy It is wild You know, he's someone who is one of, I think you described him as looking like Bruce Willis after the dementia. Yeah. Strange looking dude, you ran into him when you were, this was back in May 24, I believe. You were in the vicinity of the Columbia protests, the campus protests, or was it at the park?

Oh, you were in Washington Square Park. I'm cruising for anonymous gay sex. And there was this, there was this a, no, I was, I was, there was a May Day parade slash protest. And though I am, I technically don't have any employees, but I hope to exploit many people someday. But, you know, I go there. I may not be a member of the working class, but I support them. And so I went there to March, you know, in support of that. And I go to May Day protests every single year I have for many, many years.

And obviously, you know, this is May 24. so, you know, there was a lot of Palestine stuff there. And, and yeah, there's, I'm in Washington Square Park sort of the end. It's, everything's kind of, you know, end of everything. I'm talking to some friends there. And I see this, just an ugly guy filming a blonde woman. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, and always bad news.

You know, to correct, to correct myself, because he does look like Bruce Willis after the dementia. But he actually looks like Bruce Willis after the dementia when like he was being hired by those films and they were like, sort of um you know taking advantage of him it's like the director for one of those films hired him and then left him in the sun for a couple of weeks because he he looked and i i was just astounded i was like this guy looks i've never seen anything like this in my life i have a video uh that he is posted for some reason of this encounter between uh you two that um i just uh i want to play for

people so they can they can understand what this exchange was and i'll play it for you guys you came over me and got my face what is up with the freckles you're crazy ugly are you anti-freckle I don't know that but you got overtoned I don't know what what are you possibly are you I look normal are you look crazy people been lying to you son son people are probably all that so apparently he was as you say harassing girls at the park And then you looked over and saw the strangest looking man you've ever seen. Yeah.

And yeah. And so I just, I want to ask, this kind of like led to a few great Twitter threads in which you kind of uncovered everything about this guy that I just, I find him to be the most fascinating dude ever because he's so, he's like peak New York Zionist. he is you know he's not only you know like uh what was the name of that one guy worked for the i think it was a clinton administration he was like harassing hall arousing the street the street oh yeah that fellow the old guy yeah he's like he's like a he's a mix of that plus uh just being this like failed businessman he apparently had a uh a burger place uh called vestro burger which was this was a some sort of vegan a vegan burger joint so so in many Stuart Seldoitz urban environments many urban environments office workers seem to demand two things

one of which is slop like kava bowls what's the other place that the Chipotle bowls etc so like a sloppy bowl and then they also sometimes want like a burger and but they also kind of want vegan food so it's three things they want and so it's three things they want and so And so Ross's business idea was he's like, steak shack sells meat and meat has too much protein in it. And so I got to create a way worse version of that. And so he makes a vegan alternative to shake shack, exactly. And unfortunately, it did close within one year. It had about as most restaurants do.

As most restaurants, they fail. They fail. And Ross, I mean, it's just one feels. A certain amount of pity towards him, I think, would be the word. You know, like you would if you saw a rabid dog. You know, it's like, it's coming towards you. It's going to bite you. You've got to do something about it.

But like, you know, I wish the dog didn't have rabies. You know, I don't want any dog to have rabies. And Glick seems to me, you know, he's just a 10 times loser. Nothing has ever worked out for him. He's one of those guys. He's had, and listen, we've all had divorces, but I assume. But, you know, he's gone through some divorces. He's gone through some divorces.

Is there some kids there? Broken home, but, you know, product of one myself, and I'm a successful small businessman. I'm like Ross. And so there's still time. But, you know, he, he's unable. It's like nothing in his life has ever gone right. He's always been in the shadow of other people. He's tremendous looking in a way that you don't want to be.

And I think things kind of have cohered for him and everything in his life. All these failures, all these, you're not good enough. You're not good enough. he knowing it's right right um that's how it hurts more when someone is just saying the darkest voice that you have in your head out loud yeah well he knows this lou reed once i can't remember who he said it about but he did say he said it about somebody didn't like but he says i think he hates himself and he's right you know and i think i think glick hates himself and i think he's correct i think he's absolutely correct in that and and so i think it all kind of like came down to him standing in this park

with his phone in some woman's face asking her if she supports Hamas. Yeah. And and you know this kind of like opened up a whole world for me because it it first of all led to me finding out about his you know this failed vegan burger

business. And then also about this article that came out about him back in 2019 which we have already read the public notice and legal warning so we can now get into that article. according to the New York Post, this is a story about the disturbing story

behind NYC's revenge porn perpetrators. That's the gentleman I saw in the park. What is he wearing? He is wearing. What is that crev at? So I have looked at every image of publicly available image of Ross Glick on the internet. And he at one point was sort of dressing like,

sort of like, you remember in Austin Powers when Mr. Evil, Mr. Evil. That was part of his Ph.D. When Dr. Evil kind of had his little gang of like the Eastern European woman. There was number two. Fat Bastard was, I believe, in the second one. He is sort of like a character they kind of cut because it wasn't enough, you know,

maybe funny lines for him or something. Right. He looks like his face is upside down. He looks like one of those games, you know, when you lie on the couch and you turn your head backwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure. You put lipstick on above your. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, he's a very peculiar-looking guy, and this article gets into this revenge porn stunt that he did. So it says Glick, so basically what he did was he hacked into the Instagram account of his ex-girlfriend and posted nude photos of her, also posted them on her company's website and Facebook pages. And according to the article, Glick, busted by NYPDD, detective Dennis McCarthy, whom the woman calls her hero, was charged with unlawful use of a computer and unlawful posting of lewd images, or unlawfully posting the lewd images. He ended up pleading guilty to second degree harassment, a violation, and paid a fine.

Quote, we are really, we really are very happy that the justice system is taking these things seriously for the first time. So many victims are able to get some protection and some relief because of the fact that we passed this law, talking about the anti-revenge porn law. So he was convicted, according to this article. So journalists are saying he was convicted, but yet on the public notice and legal warning, he's saying he was not convicted of a crime. So we don't know what the truth of the matter is. I tend not to believe either of these parties

just on principle but it goes further because where this intersects with this podcast was finding out that this person has many times referred to himself and listed himself as the executive director of Betar USA now we I think on this show have

mansion Baitar. They've been like a recurring character in terms of like the antics, if I can be reductive about the, you know, violent threats that they do. But I don't know if we've ever done like a full rundown

of what Baitar is. Violent threats and virulent snitching. Yes. They're the ones compiling the lists of, you know, students who might have co-written an op-ed to their student newspaper suggesting that the university should follow its

you know anti-apartheid divestment laws or whatever yes exactly they're compiling lists they claim to be in contact with the state department with marco rubio and you know there's even uh you know a video out there of ross click meeting with people like john fetterman and shit like that uh so uh i I tend to believe... Two bald, normal looking guys. I know.

Two of the most normal guys ever in a room together. Just, I mean, both very handsome gentlemen speaking cordially about crimes. But Brace, are you familiar with Batar? And if you run into... I had any incidents with Batar before. Had they given you a pager yet? Yes. I knew, well, so I, first of all, I didn't know...

I didn't know that this guy had any connection to any... I mean, I knew he was, you know, a rascal when I ran into one of the park, but I didn't know who he was or anything like that. But a journalist, they'll say that. After he posted the video of me, reach out to me and says, hey, I actually know who this guy is. And this is his name. And, you know, here he is being quoted in the New York Post about the Columbia protests earlier this year. But here's an earlier article of him in the New York Post, and that's the one about the revenge porn. And after that, I did some digging.

and, you know, I found out a lot about his life. And then after that, so I'd already, you know, found out about the guy, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The revenge porn stuff was out. He was talking about it online. He was saying, oh, yeah, I was never convicted. I was never convicted. And then after that, Beatar at some point in 2024 makes him the executive director of their U.S. branch. So, yes.

Beattar I did know about, be just, you know, sort of a, you know, cursory study of like early kind of 20th century. Zionist formations or pre-war Zionist formations. You know, Beatar is kind of among the more extreme right-wing ones. Yeah. You know, like a lot of them come, you know, they come from Poland. Jebatinsky was

their leader. A name I've never said out loud, so I'm mispronouncing it than I am. No, you got it perfectly. Vladimir Zev Jabitinsky. That's right. But they shared sort of a lot of tactics and some membership with Urgun, who, you know, famously was sort of this

pre and I guess a little bit post war terrorist organization that was operated well worldwide but you know specifically in in Palestine and uh they were hotel managers yes yeah yeah yeah they're in the hospitality yes um and and

and Beatar uh sort of became or like the movement that Beatar was part of kind of became like Le Kud and and it took like it's it's sort of the forefather but also now still exist along like the modern Israeli right and so like a lot of like these kind of revolutionary organization you see this all over the political spectrum all over the world you know like an organization or maybe a terror organization or whatever a self-defense organization as they were in like Poland stuff gives rise to like a political movement but that

organization still exists it sort of loses kind of some of its like power and like you know people put on suits and ties and they go into the cadet you know and they don't really need to be part of this thing anymore. And so there's like not really a point of it anymore. I mean, Israel has like a hundred nuclear bombs. You don't really need like a batar. And yet they persist. And and so now it seems like there's been and there's been a bitar in the U.S. for a long time. I think Jebatinsky actually died while visiting a branch in the U.S. He died in the cat scales in 1940. Yeah. Must have seen a particularly good comedian. Yeah. I think he hung himself with a borsch belt.

But but the organization as it exists now as far as I can tell is a small group that's sort of within the patchwork of you know psychotic less schizoaffective

like more fringe Zionist types. Yeah. People who kind of I guess their version of like you know ultra left you know kind of like crazy people or like they're less respectable than even like the more like extreme people just because of they are completely completely not only uncompromising but they're also very unsubtle and so yeah you have them doing things like for instance you know compiling this like deport list or whatever and a lot of groups and I you know I want to I want to not give them too much credit because they are taking credit for for deport deport the

reporting of Mamu Khalil and a few other people too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're also taking credit for, what's her name, who just got, we just saw the video of her being arrested. Turkish, the Turkish one in Boston. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, they're taking credit anytime, you know, one of these students or activists are being arrested and detained

and possibly deported every single time. so they basically sing that song from the mikado you know they've got we've got them on the list we know sure yes yes yeah i mean i mean that's that's that's the that's the big thing is making lists of of people to deport but i will say i do they are doing that yeah and i do believe i do believe them but i also just think there's other people also doing that 100% like maybe are a little more integrated into like the lobby and so i think that they are probably sending this stuff, but they're probably doubling the efforts of people who are a little more like powerful and connected. Yes. Yeah. So, um, you know, one example, as we mentioned earlier, uh, is, uh, the

arrest of Tufts student, uh, Rumaise, uh, Ozturk. Uh, so Ozturk was a, uh, is a doctoral student at Tufts and was arrested, uh, March 25th outside of her apartment in Somerville, Massachusetts. Uh, the video of the arrest shows a man wearing a hood approaching her as She walked along the sidewalk, then grabbing her, putting her in cuffs as she cried out for help. She had written an opinion article for the school newspaper last year referring to Israel's war in Gaza as a genocide. And as far as we know, this is the crime that allowed her to be abducted by ICE agents. And we have a video of that as well. Here's some of it. It's an incredibly disturbing video because you're seeing all of these people completely, you know, they're like wearing plain clothes.

And now they all have their badges out. Yeah, and they're all wearing masks. You guys covering your faces? And someone is taping this. You want to take those masks off? This video was posted by... Is this a kidnapping? posted by Daniel Bogoslav from The Intercept.

I'm not sure who taped the video, though. Yeah, you don't look like it. Why are you hiding your faces? You know, it's, you know, seeing shit like that, obviously, is, like, super disturbing. And I think, you know, you're seeing outcry from, obviously, you know, anyone who's, like, pro-Palestine, but also from people who are maybe more in the, like, libertarian sphere who are like, wait, wait, wait, this seems pretty bad. This seems like

inconsistent with all of that other shit that I've been saying for my entire life. And yet, Batar loudly and proudly likes to take credit for this stuff. They wrote here on Twitter and they

retweeted themselves, which is every post they read. They're also quoting a Nazi. Yeah, they're also quoting the Americaverse post, which is a Nazi Twitter account. Yeah. She was on our list. Many more jihadis

are. We will be making a new submission Monday with approximately 1,800 more jihadis. Submit to us candidates with proof for at ICEGov to consider American flag emoji. So, we're, you know...

We're Satan's favorite student. Yeah. Yeah, I know. We do extra credit. It's just crazy. Satan's like, I don't know who the fuck you are. Yeah. And, you know, these guys have been, you know, doing the list thing and they've been, you know, taking credit for people who are, I mean, who are currently sitting in like ICE detention centers, like, and right now some of them might get deported if not for like a federal judge in Louisiana who's just like, wait, stop. You can't, you can't just do that, which, I mean, you're realizing how incredibly thin this is all getting in terms of like, you know, infrastructure that stops fascist shit from happening. And yet they, like, loudly and proudly proclaim that they are to be credited for it,

which is kind of fucking wild. So, Beatar's also been doing these, like, pranks, quote-unquote. Oh, yeah. So they have this really funny joke about giving people a beeper that I think everyone gets. and everyone loves I mean I love humor Brace I don't know if you're a fan of jokes but I really

Physical comedy I find to be distasteful I the the beeper stunt reeks of a like Gallagher or something to me I mean what they do is they go around and they say oh here's a beeper and then you're like oh yeah like like the Hezbollah thing

but the beeper doesn't explode so you're like right so you like ordered a beeper on Ali Baba and fucking gave it to me yeah okay it's it's a it's a weird prank that is also uh clearly like a direct threat but it's also yeah behind so many layers of meming that it's kind of like when you're like on twitter and you see someone's got like a beeper a helicopter and a banana emoji and you're like there's too much lore there's too much like i even know what the banana is about the banana is

about uh at ucla there was a student who was that part of the palestine protest who was allergic to bananas and yeah I mean I mean we are allergic to stuff and it happens although a banana allergy I would say that you know I slipped on a banana peel once um in front I was going to see the movies oh to see the movie cool wait I'll say you doing the movie theater you know Pee We Herman but I was going I guess he was seeing the movie too but I I was going to the movies and I was on I was going to go on a date and and I slipped and I went head over heels and I went on, I slipped on a banana peel. It's, they're real.

They are a real threat. Threat. And so I guess I'm, I've been hurt by a banana peel before. So you could say I'm a bit, I'm physically allergic to it. But in a way, what's the helicopter? That's the penis-shay thing or they have another helicopter? I assume it's a pinnicee thing. That's the third one that I've never understood.

I just always assume it's a penis-e thing, which is, you know, good to know, um, the where they stand in terms of, uh, penis-e. but like you know the these are actual threats that they're that they're doing and they're you know disguising it behind like the it's just a prank bro type thing uh and uh yeah they and they've been crowdsourcing these pranks they've been asking people online to do them for them uh and been tagging their you know possible victims this is uh at nerdeen kiswani who uh i believe was a student at the protest i can't i'm not she's she's in charge of uh within our lifetimes which i think did come out of s jp but it's like a it's a distinct organization yes uh you have

terrorized america and new york for much too long we have had enough and we will not stop uh you hate america you hate jews and we are here and won't be silent eighteen hundred dollars to anyone who hands of that jihadi a beeper. This is, you know... $3,600 to anyone who hands are a whoopee cushion. Yeah, such a specific amount of money. I'm not entirely sure.

Oh, it's high times 1,000. It's the kind of, it's the exact amount you'd get from a rich uncle for your bar mitzvah. Any multiple of 18. Yeah, yeah. It seems that they're very into the 18. I mean, they did the same thing here with approximately

1,800 more jihadis, numerologically weirdos, very schizo. Well, they handed a Norman Finkelstein a beeper at one. They did. And he's just kind of like, yeah.

What is this? I think his exact lands where, you know, I seem to remember a time when Jews were known for being intelligent. Yes. Yeah.

And he crossed the street. Yeah. and uh you know this is uh obviously a fucking insane thing to do and in this meeting between john fetterman and ross glick uh ross glick brings up the uh the beeper prank and apparently they got banned from like instagram and facebook not twitter of course because comedy is legal on twitter now but on instagram and facebook they were banned uh for this and so glick took it to fetterman to complain about this ban and i have a video of that i'm going to be handing out beavers to s jp moment so what was the what did it say that's all that's it's a message that was the whole message it was and then metaband us very clear like for the beavers thing i mean i love it yeah i can't find a fetter man why does he flee from them after agreeing with them he doesn't even he's like the beber thing

i love it and then he just leaves yeah it's like you know it's like a certain amount of social capacity, like he Yeah, oh, he's His battery is full. Fetterman is tough. He needs more RAM. Fetterman is tough because he's brain damaged. He's brain damaged.

And it would make me feel odd if my like political movements sort of main guy was Lurch. Basically like a Golan. Yeah. Yeah, it's just like a, you know, it's like, it's weird that a stroke can turn you into a golem is the thing.

You know, it's not that weird. I feel like a stroke can definitely, you know, that's true. But I guess I remember when Tila tequila had a stroke and got really into Hitler. And I thought I was like, oh shit. Sometimes. That was some of a stroke. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was tweaking, man. Because she was, I remember she got it to Hitler early. Like, now like a lot of those kind of people are to Hitler. Sure. But she was like, she was early on the Hitler train. Yeah. No, she adopted it like this way before Kanye had. adopted it but kind of didn't have a stroke like i think this is i believe the timeline masturbating yes i believe the timeline for tequila was stroke then hitler um so yeah it's uh you know with john fetterman it's it's super annoying because he's somebody who uh people like defended after he had a stroke remember when he did like a debate with dr oz like shortly after the stroke where he was clearly incoherent and everybody just kind of like pretended as if he said some stuff that was like cogent yeah and um yeah and then uh i mean people people people supported him not me because i find him repulsive but people supported him in his like primary and stuff

he was like the progressive candidate right it was him versus dr oz and everyone was just like well there's no way he's going to be worse than dr oz yeah and um and Dr. Oz would have to be, Dr. Oz would have to temper the Israel stuff because he can't go back to Turkey if he gets too crazy. He actually would have been better. Dr. Oz might have been better on Israel. Oh, God. But yeah, I mean, you know, this, you know, Glick connection is so interesting because Beatar has been, had been denying it for a little bit before they finally put out a statement saying, okay, he was, but he is no longer. So right here, this is from Zionism Observer.

Baitar, U.S., an extremist surveillance group that engages in bomb threats, is denying that disgraced sex criminal, Ross Glick, is their executive director. Let's explore. Here's a video posted on January 17th, just two weeks before Baitar said it's not true, where Ross claims he is the executive director. And I have that clip right. here. Hi, I'm Ross Black.

I'm the executive director of Vatar North America. I came to Washington to meet with congressmen to help bring them home. I came to see Rashid and Talib. Unfortunately, she didn't show up for our meeting. And perhaps she's in conversations with Hamas and her buddy's there. And maybe she can do something and help. Is he wearing dog tags? He's wearing, he's wearing the thing that probably

every single person you guys talk about on this show is wearing the hostage dog tags oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right they do the hostage dog tags I forgot yeah yeah yeah it's like I I've kept track of the

the yellow ribbons and now the orange ribbons to commemorate the Be Best children but yeah I forgot they also wear dog tags for Elon's got him famously Elon has the dog tags on Elon's got the dog tag not all the time

but he wears them sometimes yeah My favorite thing about Betar is their absolute animus towards Shai Davidae, calling him a left-wing extremist. And there was a tweet, I don't have it, but they said something like, and I don't quite know what they meant, but I hope they meant what I think they meant, which is, they said, Shaidavidai is on our anti-deport list. We don't want him in Israel. And I'm hoping they meant, like, they have a list of people they don't want to see deported, because if he gets sent back to Israel, he'll be like a, an extreme left-wing threat because there's video of him being shoved by Israeli police at some kind of anti-netnyahu protest or something or other.

So Shai Davidae is, I suppose, like, an Israeli liberal, which, you know. Yeah. I mean, listen, I think he is. Shai Davidae-Dai is like an Israeli liberal. And so he was, you know, he went to those anti-Net Yahoo protests, et cetera, et cetera, et but he also, I think, has written at some point, like in some longer article that he co-authored with somebody else about not buying products from. the settlements because like some of the liberals are anti-settlement and so yeah yeah and so

he that they accused him doing BDS you know he's doing BDS you got and they I think they had some kind of like like tumultuous situation with oh yeah at like the world Zionist congress or something yeah they got him kicked out because yeah the the I don't really understand the like all the intricacies of that stuff and the organizational structures But the actual, like, guy who's technically in charge of Batar in the U.S., or maybe Batar in general, is, uh, you're talking about, uh, Ron Torosian? No, no, no, no, no, he's, he's a political party is world liquid, but he's also in charge of, uh, the world Batar movement.

He's a guy named Yagal something. Yagal brand. Yeah, he, he films himself, you know, proudly waving an Israeli flag at pro-Palestine rallies and things like that. Which seems to be what they, the job of any of these guys. Their, their job seems to be, it's like, well, what are you, what are you doing in terms of action for Israel? And it's just, it's waving flag at person.

That's, you can catch. And saying, I am not afraid of you. We are not afraid. And they call themselves bear Jews, which brings me to a question I wanted to ask both of you. The fat gay guys? I don't know if they mean that. Hairy, hairy fat gay guys. So if they're bare Jews, what kind of Jews?

are we? I think, Matt, you're clearly a giraffe Jew. That's true. I'm very tall. That's fair. That's fair. I'm a beaver Jew for several reasons, not just my Canadianness. Otter. Yeah. Those are called otters in the community. Otter, okay.

And I would be a polar bear, I think, because of my ancient... One time, man, I was in the Russian River. And they have a... In this town I was in, they have a bear festival. And for the guys, bears. not the animals.

And I was like, damn, dude, this looks so fun. You just are big as fuck and you get, fucking you just eat food and fuck all the time. That's crazy.

What a life. What a life. And live by the Russian River, too. Well, they go vacation there. Yeah, it was a gathering.

But, yeah, I'd be a, I'd be an orangutan. I like them. I think it was. Yeah. Yeah.

And they look so human before they get big. You know, like when orangutans are like older, they kind of look like orangutan. but when they're younger, they look like human babies. Yeah. It's great, it's beautiful.

Yeah. They're big supporters of the, of the Bebas family, actually. Yeah, yeah. That's right. But, uh, I, I, I, I just, I, I don't understand. Like, so that's clearly a reference to the Quentin Tarantino. 100% or whatever.

Yeah. Right. Exactly. That fucking stupid guy, you know, bing, bing, bing, with his fucking, that thing was a lot of, a lot of Jewish guys were like, oh my God. Yeah, no. I got to be real with you. I was like that. I remember I saw that movie and I was like, you know, this, this fucking

bear Jew guy, I like that there's a strong Jew plays baseball and it's from Boston. You know, it's like, it's, uh, it's got a lot of Zionism tie in. Whereas like, what if there was a tough guy Jew? Uh, and then, you know, so if you're a young, impressionable, you know, kid like I was, I was like, this is this rules it's it's it's eli roth with a baseball bat for me i always looked i always looked up to that little guy who shot the romanobs the jewish guy who did that i was like that guy who's like yeah get him yeah fuck him you know imagine how because he was jewish and so imagine how and they believe me

they don't let you forget that um how good that must have felt and but by the way they were not those were adults they were just his adult children that were killed. That's right. People do act like they were little kids. They were just adults. They were over 18 and yeah they were over 18 and by the way that was you know it would do you had to be done but that guy I'm always like that's like me I'm like

yeah you know you might kick my ass whatever shoot him. You know kill him. I want to be like the little Jew killed the Romanoff family. You know I like that guy I thought he was I thought he had something to him because I'm like that's you got to be going to all right we got to give him a name too. I really enjoyed that

movie back in the day, but I mostly enjoyed it for the writing and performances of the Nazis. I mean, I just thought Hans Landa was such a great character, the whole scene in the bar with, you know, the undercover agent being found out because of that one hand. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just terrifically suspenseful scenes. It's not like I was rooting for the Nazis, but I was really, I thought they were very stylish. All right. We're going to clip that. That's what's going to happen. And now we're going to say it's going to be you rooting for the Nazis. the Nazis in Inglorious Bastards. But before we continue, we do need to take a quick break.

So everybody just stick around, listen to some ads, and we'll be right back. And we're back as bad as barra. Our guest is Brace Beldon, freelance, Moyle. So to continue, were talking about Baitar, just for more background information onto like, you know, what Baitar is and who, you know, created them at least in the U.S. version because there's obviously the O.G version exists too. And we will talk about that in a second. But so after October 7th. So Baitar is essentially like a Jewish Nazi organization, right?

I would say I would say fascist. I wouldn't say fascist. But like I would say they more took um like their inspiration from like the black shirts and like you know there's all shirts movement worldwide where like the green shirt bought blue shirts by yeah yeah yeah they were kind of of that mold rather than like the nazi mold sure sure uh i i simplify i tend to simplify with the nazi stuff mostly because of their uh you know very much enjoying genocide thing but yes they are they are a fascist organization uh they were revived after october 7th um or a revival Baitar was launched by PR executive Ron Torosian, a famous New York City asshole who has tousled with many journalists, including several at the now defunct Gawker.

So he heads the 5WPR, which is like a PR organization that represented people like the Girls Gone Wild Guy, Joe Francis, and, you know, other shitbags. Oh, no, no, his list is in. credible there yeah yeah i mean lebron james's cabala guru uh pit bull eric trump um i don't know if you know about this whole thing but it's shalom ruberskin no telling me about shalom ruberskin it was a kosher meat magnet from uh from iowa convicted on a dozen counts of fraud and monday laundering although his sentence was commuted by donald trump um and i think he he also rep the shakeweight oh the just the product the product the shake weight all right so it's one good thing

was the shake weight accused of sexual harassment well it did spray in people's faces after you shake it uh yeah so i mean this guy is uh he's kind of i i guess like an infamous new york uh dickhead um which makes sense because betar seems to be in terms of where its actions are located i mostly see videos coming out in New York. New York and D.C. and maybe L.A., although you're not quite sure when it comes to L.A. Sometimes. Also the birthplace of Kahanism. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Meyer Kahana, who is somewhat of a hero to the Betar people.

You like him. Yeah. Yeah, as well as, of course, Zev Jabotinsky. They constantly are, you know, calling themselves Zabatinsky Jews. And they're saying that with a very clear cut purpose in terms of what that's kind of like that's that's daddy yeah but but it's like they love uh zev jabotinsky's view on um an unapologetic strong zionism which is uh essentially just like um you know it was honest it was honest that was the whole thing about jabotinsky is it didn't have all of the like layers of like you know western morality that it tried to like Absolutely.

Used to mask the Zionist project. We're going to do population transfers. We're going to do ethic cleansing. Yeah. It's going to be the land for the Jews. And we're going to colonize it. Yeah. That's what we're doing.

And anyone who doesn't want to be part of a colonial project can just fuck right off because we're serious. And, you know, the revisionist right-wing Zionists would say you liberals have contempt for the Arabs. If you think that they're just, I mean, they may be barbarians. They may be savages. They may be subhuman. but even subhumans will fight for their land. And we respect them enough to know that. So we have to be strong.

We have to build an iron wall. That was his sort of philosophy of how Israel will finally achieve peace with its neighbors, which is by beating them into submission and terrorizing them to the point where they would never, ever fuck with us. That's right. Which is a real, it's really going well for Israel. And they put out this statement on their Twitter account, which I'm going to read for everyone.

This one's great, yeah. Batar worldwide. The claim that Batar, the youth movement associated with the revisionist Zionist movement, is extremist, is a mischaracterization that overlooks its historical context and ideological evolution. Founded in 1923 by Zev Jabotinsky, Batar was originally conceived as a Zionist organization aimed at fostering Jewish nationalism and preparing Jews for the defense. of the Jewish homeland. However, labeling Batar as, quote, extremist in the modern context fails to recognize its integral role in shaping mainstream Zionism and its evolution

into a broad-based ideological movement. Where's the lie? This is all true. This is all true. Yes. First and foremost, Beatar's core ideology rooted in the ideas of Jabotinsky has always focus on Jewish self-defense, the establishment of a Jewish state in the historical land of Israel, and the revival of Hebrew culture. These principles... And if necessary, the invention of it. Yeah, yeah, exactly, or the appropriation of it from other cultures surrounding. Let's see. The collaging of it, if you were. Yeah, yeah, sort of a colloqu. It's a melting pot, and then you rename the pot Israel. These principles align with the broader goals of Zionism, which advocated for the return of Jews to their ancestral homeland

and the establishment of a sovereign Jewish state. Today, we are battling Hamas in their proxies worldwide in response to the challenges Jews face, including rising anti-Semitism and apathy in the organized Jewish community, which is very important to point out there, talking about the apathy in the organized Jewish community because they very much, So go after Jews.

Oh, yeah. And not just like anti-Zine is, like, it's not just that they're putting like a pager in Finkelstein's, like, you know, lapel pocket or whatever the fuck. Like, they are going after people, like you said, like Shai Davidae. They did write this one tweet about Shai that I want to read. Shy Davidai is calling the Batar movement of Jabesky a fringe group. This 90-pound man who rioted on Kaplan Street

and supports a boycott of Israel is condemning Jews who protected Brooklyn from a pogrom. He was at home drinking almond milk. I mean, it's kind of based. I mean, I kind of owned him. I mean, he was. He was at home drinking almond milk. He loves it.

He's lactose intolerant and, you know, that's bitch-made. His favorite bodega ran out of almond milk. He stamped his feet and said, this should not be happening this is not okay so I think that the that's got to be on the fucking the board

I got to get it on the board go ahead no no no no no so the the extremist post was likely written to their being added to the ADL that's right and their list of extremist organizations that's right yes which I found yeah oh yeah there you go

this is well this is their tweet responding to that. ADL has named us to our list of extremist radical organizations. 68% of their staff supports a free Palestine. I got that.

How can you claim? And what's with this specific number? It sounds more real, like maybe to that? I guess. I guess. Matt, do you have the very end of that tweet where they were sort of explaining why it's wrong to call a...

Oh, yeah, no. extremist? Because it really ends with a bang. Yes, I do have more of it. Let's see. And apathy in the organized Jewish community. Over the years, Beatar's influence has shifted significantly, particularly in the context of Israel's establishment and subsequent development. The movement today is integrated into the political and social fabric of Israel. Is it ever? Yeah. Many Beatar members have risen to a prominent positions in Israeli politics, contributing to the mainstream Zionist parties, particularly Likud, which has become the largest right-wing political faction in Israel.

Which is to say the largest political faction in Israel, because they're only right-wing fucking factions. Israel is a political faction. Yes, 100%. Beatar is a key player in the shaping of Israel's national identity and political structure. Moreover, it is important to understand that in many parts of the diaspora Jews are very liberal and far away from mainstream Zionism. Jabotinsky has more streets named after him than anyone else in Israel. That's the only thing in this tweet that I want to fact check.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't Ben-Gurion. Yeah, you'd figure. But yeah, to label Bitar as, quote, extremists is to misunderstand the historical trajectory of Zionism itself. Is it? The movement has always been dedicated to the vision of a Jewish homeland and its advocacy for this cause. Far from being an extremist position is one shared by the majority of Israeli society and is enshrined in the foundational principles of the modern state of Israel. to call Bitar extremist is to call Zionism

extremist. Church. It's an excellent It's an excellent tweet. I mean, it's just, it really distills why Zionism itself is inextricable from the so-called extremist elements of it. I mean, because they were

the honest proponents of what the movement actually entailed on the ground. And their Hasbara is to say, what? Yeah. Yeah. What, what, you know? right that's the thing about this like right wing um you know open right wing fascist zionism in english especially is uh people like the adl calling bettar an extremist group for you know for whatever reasons uh is funny coming from the adel because you're just like bettar

just says out loud what you guys do implicitly also the adel has no problem with netanyahu Netanyahu is an out-and-out Jabotinsky lover. His father was an ardent follower of Jabotinsky. He quotes him approvingly all the time. Yes. I have to say something about Jabotinsky's and fathers, though, by the way. I have to come clean. I'm not sure if I've said this on the podcast,

but I just verified with my dad this morning because I knew we'd be talking about this. It's possible, well, it might be fair to say that in some indirect way, Jabotinsky is responsible for saving my father's life and thus making me exist. Oh shit. My great grandfather, Dr. Joseph Levy, was a well-known physician in Hungary, I guess, or maybe in southern Slovakia. And he, my grandmother on my dad's side used to insist was a friend of Jabotinsky's. They were friends. And the guy, my great-grandfather, was a Zionist. He didn't

know much about Palestine. He just believed in a Jewish state. He saw bad things coming for the Jews. He ended up dying in Auschwitz. He, you know, and he was one of these Jewish self-defense. Jews need to get together and get safe somewhere, right? Right. And when things got really bad in the Budapest ghetto, the walled-in Budapest ghetto in late 1944, my dad was born in January 44,

there was a Swiss-run glass factory that was taking in and hiding Jews. in the ghetto. And it was, and it was run by Zionists. And when they heard that the grandson of Joseph Levy was at, was outside and his mother was trying to get him in. When they heard that the daughter and grandchild of Joseph Lee, they let them in right away. And they ended up only, he ended up only staying in that place for a couple of days because it was so shit infested and unhealthy. My grandmother thought he would die. So she ended, that's when she gave him to a Gentile on the street and asked her to take him to a to some relatives in a safer part of town which they did and he was there for six weeks but it was due to the the jabotinsky um connection

or at least the connection to a respected friend of jabotinsky's that got him in the door i heard jabotinsky drove the delorean 88 miles per hour went back to make sure daniel's parents kissed at the dance. Thank you, Adam. That's one of producer Adam's best ever. Anyway, so that, you know, that, that, that's slightly, yeah, you know, that's a complicating factor in my, in, in the, in the, are you saying that you're going to join Batar?

Well, I don't, I don't, I don't think it really is. I mean, I'm to be honest with you. I'm some fucking guy in Slovakia and some guy comes up to me. He's like, we need a Jewish homeland. I'd be like, yeah, absolutely. Right. Yeah. of it's Slovakia anymore

yeah exactly no yeah the idea that like you know Zionism being an appealing thing in Europe during the Holocaust and before the Holocaust is like not weird there's nothing weird about that at all

it makes absolute sense and there's nothing weird about Europeans having a colonialist mindset too where they can just disregard the feelings and aspirations of Arabs in the Middle East, which they have no even concept that it's a real place. I was going to say, like, most people who were probably involved in that shit didn't even know

what an Arab was or like any conception of anything going on there. But it's... They just knew that white Europeans kept calling them Arabs. They're like, I guess. But like Jabotinsky, I mean, with Batar, it's, it's, they're interesting because and one can't even say this is necessarily a bad strategy if you're speaking sort of objectively from from front of their perspective so I guess it would be subjectively

but by trying to like sort of make inroads with Mussolini there and I know that at one point they'd established a sort of like you know small naval academy under Mussolini's watch and sort of famously but that sort of semi-fascist nationalism because fascism itself was like

Naziism is a little better defined than fascism fascism famously is sort of ill-defined and like had national characteristics, you know, sort of unique to where each place it, you know, sort of blossomed. But, but, uh, but that was very popular among like non-reactionary nationalist movements, which which Zionism would be because, you know, it didn't, there was no like monarch or whatever necessarily to like, you know, the two types of nationalism at that point, not the only two types, but the main two types of nationalism were like a nationalism, a sort of a Republican

nationalism or a monarchial nationalism. or monarchy nationalism. And the republicanism was often, if it's right wing, it often became fascist. And so, you know, you had things like this

that popped up all over the place. And so people, people will point to Batar at that point and be like, oh, look, they're Nazis, they're Nazis. Well, funnily enough, actually,

they're not that different than a lot of the Europeans back then, which isn't a defense of Batar. It is a, you know, a stain of. upon the European political landscape. Right, yeah, it's a, it's condemning Europeans at the time and, uh, you know, for all of history.

But it's crazy, it's crazy that like some of these countries even had nationalists because, like, you know, you look at Romania in like the 30s and you're like, you're proud of this, you know, it's interesting. And it's, I just, you know, and so I just, you know, and that's what kind of makes you think. I guess people just didn't have any conception of other places because like, you know, I feel like there would have been a lot less nationalism if there was more like, color of photographs. Right. No, if they could have like Googled what, you know,

any other place look like, they'd be like, whoa, wait a second. Romania fucking sucks. Dude, we're in Romania. Oh my God.

Look at everywhere else. Shit. You know, terrorist rice patties and things of that nature. That would make me, you know, want to leave Romania, but,

but, but, you know, again. And so, you know, I think that, uh,

yeah, it was, it was, it was such a sort of strange time. And it was this, this 20 year period where that stuff was really, really, really,

really popular. And then it diffused afterwards, right? Like we got a lot of it kind of diffused into like conservativeism. And it dropped its more like peculiarities that attached it to nationalism, like, you know, some of the margin, some of the shirts, some of the like, even some of the, like, fidelity towards like militarism as militarism, although that did remain pretty prominent in Israel because Israel, unlike most of the countries that had previously been fascism, a fascist rather. a lot of the like you know batarites or whatever you would call them and the ergoon kind of people joined this you know started this country that immediately began waging a series of wars or you know being being involved in let's say to be even generous a series of wars uh against the people around it which which nurtured sort of so you know as opposed to like poland or you know which did also have like a very large semi-fascist nationalist movement which batar actually model itself you know and collaborating with on occasion which is crazy because those people were so anti-Semitic but the um but like

unlike a lot of these European countries will be our friends yes yeah but like unlike a lot of these like you know countries with these you know large fascist movements that may have been crushed but that like spirit of you know right wing nationalism was still there those countries did not go to war again some of them have still never been to war but Israel still had this like

the Israelis you know were constantly at war and developed this hyper-militaristic culture, which I think actually sort of makes it, as time goes on, it becomes sort of more fascist. Right, yeah. You know, coming away from, you know, with social democratic or whatever, mainstream roots, those, it's funny because the opposite happened

in so much of Europe, although now that's not so true anymore. But, you know, Europeans all became this sort of a feat, you know, we have a little cappuccino. Well, Europeans no longer had an internal enemy, that they had to, that, that they were overdue for a complete conquest over, you know, and it's only when they, when they got one by virtue of immigration from all the places that, you know, Europe meddled in, right, that they, that the, the, the, the fascist right wing started reemerging, you know, Israel's never not had, um, an enemy within because they

failed to, um, fully wipe them out to begin. Because it's filled with Jews, just kidding. but it is funny because the Europeans as they have and this has been such a trend since really the 80s mostly although in France is a little different but like in a when you see fascist movements sort of reemerge or like whatever what the equivalent of a fascist movement like Orban is a fascist but you know it's he might as well be you know yeah yeah a lot of these things sort of emerged the right wing populace but like a lot of these things sort of emerge I mean Germany for instance. had that huge rash of skinhead violence in the 1990s after reunification. And a lot of that was because of this emergence of a reemergence of an internal enemy, no longer the Jew, now the Turk at that point in Germany, or now in general, the Muslim. Right. Outslanda. Yeah.

The outslander. And so now we've sort of seen this like this nascent and almost this, you know, this desire for a war footing from a lot of these right wingers in Europe because they have this internal. and this invader, this, you know, this internal enemy that they can focus against. And so, yeah, I think, I think that's really, that's, that's crucial for these movements to grow. And Israel, you know, has had so many internal and external enemies that this, this sort of fascist, militaristic nature has metastasized until it's become, you know, such a cancer on the, on the body politic there that it was quite large to begin with. Right.

But is now, you know, there is no, now you can't even make the sort of like, oh, they may the desert bloom or whatever that kind of bullshit apollosia that people used to do it becomes very difficult and so now I appreciate these organizations like Batar because they do tell it how it is right

I think Betar represents the foreign policy of Lakud significantly better than even APEC or certainly than K Street or whatever ever could I mean K Street would say oh you know that's the group right that's the Jay Street yeah the hell is K Street oh I think that was

the whole that was the It was a slur. That's what Daniel calls it. Kay Street. But, but, no, I think K Street is actual, that's the liberal,

that's the liberal Ku Klux Klan lobby. No, I think K Street, I think K Street's the actual lobbying, like what you would actually call. Oh, that's where you go. That is the district. But,

it's the Madison Avenue of, but yeah, but not, not how Daniel says it, K Street. And he does this. He does this. Yeah.

You get it? Oh, I just got it. it. I just got it. You just got it. Just now. Because we can say that now. We can say that. But we don't, but we don't. We don't. We could. But we could. But we could. But we could. I pronounce it the Latin X way. Kiki. Kiki. But, uh, but uh, you know, I appreciate a batar because, you know, you've got this

guy who's like a complete freak, uh, you know, I'm not going to say anything legally actionable here, but maybe a sex freak and, and, uh, something a freak who's had sex, you know. Yeah. Um, and the very least he has taken. Making pictures, naked pictures of his ex-wife and baby mama. There's been naked pictures of his ex-something involved there. Yes, yes. I don't know all the details, but I'm certain they're sorted. Yes.

And I do know his website says he is not a sex criminal. And I believe it because it's on his website. First thing. And before you make fun of him, ask yourself, does yours? Yeah, that's right. That's how we should all open our pages. Kind of like terms of service. And if it doesn't, why not?

you know um but uh but you know i like i like a batar you know i don't like a batar but i like that that this is people get to see this and this is like really one of the prominent faces here another thing i should mention about batar is you know they claim to identify all these people with this ai technology that they're using that's right and i hate to i hate to ever send anyone to tablet because tablet is shit yeah tablet did an article about the guy who is now in charge of Batar's AI facial recognition program thing

which I think is fake but I think they really have some kind of thing but they they sort of lie about how capable it is right he is actually a Lebanese Shia who due to neurodivergence and getting bullied by girls in Lebanon

took on the identity of a Jew moved to Houston due to chain migration which I have no problem with but you know he did it's fine totally fine it's what happened he moved to he moved to houston and then just was like i'm a jew and uh which is you know if you want to do that you can do that it's not my problem but but he can kind of convince everyone he's a jew and then he's a syrian jew moves to new york and gets into the insular brooklyn syrian jewish community which does not allow intermarriage they're like it's not like

and and not only into a lot of these communities don't allow intermarriage but like they won't allow you to marry a convert you actually have to be like a syrian blooded up Syrian Jew. Oh, not even, you can't even be just like an Ashkenazi, like Ukrainian Jew. They consider that intermarriage. Yeah, no, but no, but I, I don't think so. I don't think you can, but you definitely can't be a, they won't accept a convert to Judaism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not, that rare. But he, uh, but he, he, he convinces them that he is a Syrian Jew and they, you know, they speak Arabic. And so I guess he can, he's like able to like, you know, I don't know what like tried to water for a while

he gets he gets set up with this chick from the community through a matchmaking service and while they're on vacation she discovers his passport she's like your name's Hassan and uh and he tells her he works for the NSA and comes up with a whole crazy lie and then they find out it's not true and he goes crazy

and then tablet interviews him in a hotel room and rather even though you know it's written by guys that do not like I gotta say the piece is pretty good because it's a long there's a lot of crazy details, but now he's back under his Jewish name. And he's in charge of Batar's electronic surveillance wing.

Fuck yeah, dude. That's what Zionism do. This is who we're dealing with. We're dealing with freaks here. I'm sorry. I mean, we're dealing. These are freaks. This guy could believe in everything that I believed in.

I'd still be like, you're fucking crazy, man. This guy could be like the coolest, whatever, politics guy, politics I agree with. And come up to me and I would hear this story, like, you're an insane person. I don't know. You're crazy. What is that?

What is wrong with you? You got bullied by a grown-turned-jerk? I mean, you know, it's the Inzell to Zionism pipeline, but it just... What the fuck? A reverse Weinstein! Yeah, yeah. Oh, whether you fuck a lot or don't get fucked at all, one way or another, you end back in the promised land of Israel.

But to end this, I got to say that, like, what's interesting about Baitar, too, beyond just, like, the fact that... they are, you know, telling, it is nice that they have this organization that is just like here it is unvarnished truth about what Zionism is, what Zionism supports, what the Zionist project is about. Fuck all you lib, lib cucks out there who are essentially just Hamas like Shai Davidae for, you know, for saying things like, I don't think we should buy things from the settlements. It's nice to...

House demolitions are bad PR for design as well. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And, you know, Batar is right and to, you know, poke fun at these people because these people are doing the optics work. And they're like, fuck you and fuck the optics. Let's just be, let's be bear Jews.

The funny thing about Batar, though, is that they also, their social media beyond just like trying to like do oh it's outrageous their social media is so it's it's hard to watch so i just want to play a few videos of uh that they've posted themselves um first is we talked about bear jews earlier um you know they consider they're like we're bear jews and yet at the same time they put out this video uh which i had to add music under it because the original track i think we'll get copyright struck, but here's a video about the Columbia now being compromised, and here's

a video they brought up using. So it says, we suggest and advocate a full boycott of at Columbia. It cannot be repaired, and we hope it fails completely. In a war, there are wins and losses. Columbia cannot be saved. It's completely

rotten. And the video is just the text, Columbia has fallen. We suggest a full boycott. Does it play Rock? No, I play rock and roll McDonald's because I, the song they had over it is going to get copyright struck. So I was like, well, I have to have some music under it. So rock and roll McDonald's is a great song. He can't sue.

Yeah, he can't sue. He's already dead. Oh, he's dead. Oh, I was it. And it says bear Jews should avoid Colombia. I thought they were the bear Jews. What's the point of a bear Jew if you're going to be like, stay away from the college campuses? I'm going to tell you, I went to Colombia.

This is what I don't understand. I went to, not as a student. And I, and I, by the way, let me say this here. I am, I hate college. I don't like colleges. And I, you know, I don't like them. I'm not a big believer in the Ivy League. I think that all this of these things are fucking scams, bullshit, fucking, and if I was in

charge, this shit would be just day one. one shut down. I'm sorry. There would be no Ivy League. There would be a lot of farm. There'd be a lot of people to till the farmland. Um, but I went to the, I went to the encampment there. I want to see what it's all about. You know, uh, and some, you know, they gave me some Yehouty's fucking ID. And I, I, I frankly, I use the ID to get on campus illegally. Uh, not the first time I've done that, but, um, you know, again, my website details all those allegations and says it's not true. Um, but, um, but, um, but uh but i went into the campus and i was like okay i was expecting this was kind of like right

when it was like going it was all over the news and i was like expecting like some crazy fucking thing and i'm like this is a bunch of college students sitting in tents right and like reading and you know i'm like what what are you guys talking about this is scary like this isn't even annoying if you're a student here right this is just yeah it's just on a campus i'm like it's just like on a quad on the quad it's on one part of the quad i'm like all right right isn't aren't you a college just go to class

I don't know to tell you and also but you know aren't you also if you're self describing as a bear Jew that's what I'm saying I'm like I'm like

all these guys who are like it's we can't we can't go to Columbia anymore because you know you've got these you've got these good job

to name them's they're basically yeah they're they're Winnie the Pooh Jews and it's it's And it's like, I'm like, I thought that bear Jew was like a guy and a, you know, wife beat her with a big old bat. Yeah.

No, it's Paddington Bear Jew. The shit out of these college students. All you're doing is you're just fucking, you're calling the cops. Yeah, exactly. You're doing what your shy Davida is more able to fucking. He actually goes up to them. He goes to the campus. He'll go off.

He's like going up to him be like, you're going to, eh, you know, and these guys are like, no, don't go there. Stay away bear june. Stay away, bear juice. There's squirrel juice. Go hibernate in your cave for a little bit. What is this? What is it? But I went there and I was expecting because, you know, I look.

What can you mistake me for? And I go in there and one thing only. And I remember that chick who walked around with the Jew shirt at Yale? Oh, yeah. My favorite lady. I do that with my nose. And so I go in there. I'm like, you know, and I'm like,

and I'm like, I'm telling these kids about advancement opportunities and, you know, and, you know, real estate, what you do is you get one place. you know you take you the mortgage and then you have your tenants pay the mortgage you buy another place and i'm trying to all these hints and everyone's just like all right man why you're 35 on our campus i was like and everyone was so nice to me and i just don't understand i thought these were anti-semitic and uh and and they could have done to be a little more anti-semitic right yeah and uh i mean it was it was it was embarrassing uh but uh but these fucking batar cock suckers

it's like all they do is is they make lists of college students to get deported and I think it's right it's just it to me I don't see how if you're like a person of you know there's a lot of people who maybe just go along to get along who don't really think about you know what what their politics are what things they believe or you know maybe they're like oh yeah Israel it's like yeah it's like it's like a lot regular people they don't think about things you know but if I was a regular person who didn't think about things and I encountered this I'm like what the fuck are these guys doing man right This is fucking weird. Yeah. I mean, yeah, especially since, like, it seems like the, for every one video they have of a Batar guy putting a fucking pager in some guy, and, like, Norman Finkelstein's fucking shirt, there's just a thousand of them, like, posts of them just complaining about how scary the world is.

So it's like this weird mix of, like, you know, unapologetic, fascist Zionism where we're like, we don't give a fuck, we're Jews with guns. and not a lot of action beyond snitching. It's just, I'm going to snitch directly to Marco Rubio. In my stettel, we have a saying. Snitches get canishes. That's right, that's right. And end up on delicious dishes.

But I want to play one more video from Bitar because I just love this type of activism. This is them calling out the real villains. Yes, this is I'm calling out the real villain, someone who finally can no longer stay silent. Someone who's being called to account for the Jewish community. Here's this video for everyone. So, all right, so to read what's going on here, Adam Sandler is an on-screen Jewish icon. Thank you, Batar, for explaining Adam Sandler to us.

Offscreen, he's been silent about the. anti-Semitism plaguing the Jews and barely a word about the fight we face in Israel. So many of us no longer live, Adam Sandler. I assume that's love. As Jabotinsky said, silence is despicable. Salience is despicable. What a quote. The famous quote, silence is despicable.

Yeah, this is a very famous Jabotinsky quote. He said silence is despicable. a Jewish on-screen, a Jewish icon on-screen. But off-screen, silence, and then videos of Jews getting beat up, I suppose. Silent on the anti-Semitism, plaguing America. Silent on the attacks against Jews. Adam Sadler stays silent.

Adam, why are you so silent? watching as anti-Semitism spreads like wildfire and yet you remain quiet you've never even visited Israel despite calling it your dream now more than ever we need Jewish voices like yours to speak out Adam why aren't you standing up for your people oh wait that's so funny that Adam sailors never visit there's no way I that's what I thought too uh Jewish celebs it's time to stand-up and then a collage of Jewish celebs that include Harrison Ford? Yeah

Harrison Ford is a quarter-Jewish. He's a quarter-Jewish, not too shabby. It's from the song. The Hanukkah song. Apparently he's a quarter-Jewish. Daniel Radcliffe. Is that Seth Rogen? I assume that Seth Rogan. Daniel Radcliffe.

What's the lady at the bottom's name? Again, the one who's married to Ashton Cutcher. Doesn't matter. The one who plays Meg on. It's so funny. You know, We should have known, we should have known Adam Sandler was a self-hater when he, when he starred in a film called Uncut gems. Yes, that's right. Okay.

It's very funny. I'm like, it's so funny to be like, yeah, it's top of my list to go to Israel. It's like, dude, you're rich. Like, you can just go to Israel. It's my list. I love that. If he actually hasn't visited Israel, big W. He hasn't.

He hasn't. He has not. I do believe I firmly believe that he I'm sure that he has crazy thoughts on Israel or thoughts that I would find crazy on Israel But that is funny

He's never visiting But not Not visiting is great Yeah he's just like I'd live in New York Or you know I'm gonna be honest I'm totally honest with you guys

If Israel was you know Frankly if Israel was Palestine I'd probably like Yeah I'll go sometime you know It's like if it was like a country that I felt good about visiting but I'm not top of my list right it's you know it's

you can just go there's other countries around there Italy you know it's the Mediterranean is a big place I'm just saying it's you know it's what I would prefer to Romania I'd go to yeah well it's a different sea that it's on and that's no one's really going

I've been in the black sea and let me tell you boy that thing sucks it sucks really is that a shitty sea no wonder the Russians were also like that's because they sent you the sanitarium or whatever to like the health resort on the black sea if you know it's yeah the black sea it's it's not great shitty sea i'll tell you it's not great and it's

you i won't visit it mediterranean yeah well why where would you get up bulgaria i'm not going anywhere i'm staying here in la you're the real ocean the pacific that's pacific ocean the only good ocean i love the pacific it's the best one everyone loves it it's not like I go to, you know, the Atlantic ocean sometimes when I go on that coast. It's a shitty ocean. Shitty ocean. Do people like it? No. It's not great.

It's not great. Up in the Maritimes, there is some nice Atlantic coast line up. Oh, I'm sure. But I'm, but I'm, I'm from the West Coast like you guys. Yeah. I mean, to me, the Pacific evokes like, you know, history and girls and Hula and Bala. And the Atlantic, it's like, oh, cool. Yeah.

Bird, Titanic Death. Oh, you know. Dragon. And then when we're done with the voyage, we're in fucking Ireland. Yeah. Oh, great. Yeah, yeah. No disrespect, but still.

We love Ireland on this podcast, but you guys know it sucks to go there. You go the other direction. You're like, oh, my God, I'm in Hawaii. Yeah, exactly. I'm in fucking paradise. You make the choice, brother. You know? Yeah. England?

Fucking, you winding up in Liverpool versus winding up in Maui. Yeah, I guess you could wind up in Portugal. You could wind up in Portugal. Yeah, but have you been to Portugal? No, hell no, dude. Not great. I didn't fall for that fucking everyone, when everyone, like middle class went to Portugal for the past three years. Nope. Did that happen? I did. It was a big trend, I think, to go to Portugal. Well, all right. I didn't go part of a trend. I went back in 2008 or something like that. Well, neither of you guys do drugs. What's the point of going to a decriminalized country? That's a good point. While you guys are in Portugal, I'm at the bank.

Yeah, exactly. Making that paper. Sweet paper. Well, you guys are, you know, out there smoking drugs. I'm out there smoking that money. Very long hugs. Yeah, that's what I do. Thank you for rhyming it.

Thank you. But, yeah, Adam Sandler, shame. Shame on you for not speaking out. We are returning your foreskin. We are putting it back on you. We're going to wrap that ringlet right around your dick. Guerrilla glue. Oh, man.

But yeah, I love Beatar because they are simultaneously doing the tough guy Jew thing and they're yelling at celebrities to speak out more. It is a great organization and more power to them. They have a, and by that, I mean, you know, let them just be the mouthpiece for all Zionism in America. Just so it can be clear. At this point, you know, anyone who is. still doing the optics game when it comes to trying to whitewash Israel is doing worse crimes than Beatar, you know what I mean?

Like, Beatar is being very honest about their, you know, psychopathy or whatever. Like, they're honest psychos. And at this point, I'll take on a psychos over, you know, worms like shy dabby die and, you know, anyone else who claims to be a liberal Zionist or claims that Israel is a complicated situation. But, yeah, that's Baitar. They are, I saw that they're crowdfunding. For what?

Who knows? They just probably more money for more plastic pagers to give to students on campus. When was a kid, there were Baitar summer camp. camps. Like they were one of the rivals of my left wing summer camp group. I wonder if they're still doing that. That's very disturbing to me to think that any North American Jewish kids are being raised by these lunatics. But I think they may still exist. Yeah. I mean, I would, you know, I would hope not. But that is, that is very scary. That's, you know, at least with the liberal Zionist summer camps, you know, they're just putting their heads in the sand, pretending Zionism is all right.

Batar Summer Camp does evoke those old Al-Qaeda videos of like terrorist training organization they've got to like run through tires or whatever the fuck

I don't want to see that especially I don't want to see a bunch of little Jewish kids running through tires you know I just didn't seem like a lot of fun for them I got to go to analysis right now

yeah I got to also go talk to my analyst but I want to I want to say thank you, Brace Belden, for coming on and talking about, as Barrow with us. Thank you. Brace has to go to anal Isis. Thank you, Adam.

By way of a rest of development. Yes. Where can people find your work? I do a podcast called Truenon. Hell yeah. Check out Truenon. It's a very good podcast. And thank you so much.

Do you think Liz would ever come on this program? Or does she not want to be? seen talking shit about Jews because of, you know, the allegations. She probably would. But do you guys have, do you guys have der Goyam on? Oh, we try. We have some, we have some der Goyam, yeah. Yeah, we try to have the, the Goyam on. Liz is coming on my Mad Men rewatch podcast.

Oh, yeah, she told me. Yeah, and so I'm going to, uh, on that podcast, I'm going to ask her questions about Jews the whole time. Of course, of course, because we made the show. That's right. That's right. Matthew Wiener is me. Brace, thank you for coming on.

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