Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - Bad Hasbara: Happy? New Year!

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

A bonus solo episode of Bad Hasbara where Matt Lieb reads some emails and shows the latest in Israeli hasbara while his wife is at a New Years Eve party.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.c...om/bad-hasbara/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Starting point is 00:00:20 All the garden us White foster us Zabra Hamas Hasbaras us Barra, the world's most moral podcast. I am your host, Matt Leeb. How's it going, everyone? First, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:00:38 Happy New Year to everyone out there who is for some reason listening to this podcast. I don't know why. I make stupid videos online. Most of my career has been spent
Starting point is 00:00:55 talking about shows like the wire and the Sopranos. And for some reason, I get three episodes deep into a podcast about Israel and people start paying attention, which is, that's great. That's great for me. You know, I'm glad, I'm glad you're here. Listen, I'm stoked. I'm stoked that people give a shit about this issue. I'm stoked that people, you know, want to engage with this topic more so. than they have, I think, maybe in the past. I'm bummed as to why.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You know, the reasons for why people are getting interested are obviously super tragic, and it fuck. It sucks. But at the same time, I'm just glad that, you know, you got to start somewhere. And if it takes over 20,000 dead to get you to listen to a podcast by some guy about Israel, well, then, hey, who am I to complain? Anyways, I'm, I don't know if you can tell or if this is any different.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm probably a little bit, I'm a little more whispery right now because of the fact that my baby is asleep. For me, I'm recording this on New Year's Eve because, you see, we have a one-year-old baby, me and my wife, Francesca, Fiorentini, who's a great political. commentator podcast comedian podcaster comedian she's great she's my wife I love her we have a baby and we couldn't both go out to New Year's Eve parties so I said
Starting point is 00:02:43 you know being the magnanimous person I am I said go ahead you know you go and I'll stay home and watch the baby on the monitor so I will be occasionally looking this way to look at the baby right now she's asleep and you know so if that happens i mean who gives a shit who cares where i look i don't even want you watching this i want you listening to it that's the other thing um this is uh this is my
Starting point is 00:03:13 first time where anyone on the youtube channel has ever given a shit about anything uh usually you know we put out our episodes of pot yourself uh a gun and pot yourself the wire um on this channel and no one cares because it's just it's the guys that they are used to listening to whether we're going to see
Starting point is 00:03:33 what we look like it's a disappointment when you listen to a podcast for years and then you see what the guys actually look like and you're just like ah, that's gross so the fact that anyone's
Starting point is 00:03:43 like watching it like listen I'm happy I love that you're watching it the only thing is is that because I've spent all of this time talking about shows
Starting point is 00:03:54 that are very, very IP heavy in terms of clips. Most of this content is non-monetizable. Basically, the whole channel is non-monetizable. So, you know, occasionally I think there will be something that has ads. But for the most part, where we are able to make a living is through people listening to the podcast. So if you're watching this, listen, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're watching. But you can also not look at me and listen.
Starting point is 00:04:24 on wherever you get your podcasts. You know, go to Spotify and shit. Or, you know, I know that's a bad one, but you would also go Apple Podcasts. Apple, they're a great company, never did anything wrong. So, yeah, you know, that helps with the, you know, ad revenue and stuff like that. Also, if you're just like, no, I don't want to support these evil corporate fucking, that's good, good. I don't want you to. I don't want you to have to listen to ads.
Starting point is 00:04:52 so instead go to patreon.com slash frotcast that's f r o t c a s t uh and uh you know subscribe five dollars gets you all these other shows plus this show plus probably more stuff at some point but uh lots of content and it helps it helps me out it helps my uh podcast co host vince out if you only listen to this show um you don't know who vince is But Vince is great. He's hilarious. He's a film critic. We do a bunch of, you know, shows together. I've known him for years and years. He was the best man at my wedding. Was he? I think he was. I was not his best man. No big deal. I'm not like, I don't feel weird about that. But at the same time, like, he could have asked. Anyways, Patreon.com slash broadcast. Join. Join now. just do it help because if you're watching this that means you're getting the content for free and listen i had to stay home to make it so uh yeah let's let's talk about what we all came here
Starting point is 00:06:09 to talk about the wire just kidding uh israel that is what we're here for that is the reason for the season and um i got to say 2023 what a year I was looking at all of the, like, around this time of year, there's a bunch of, like, news wrap-ups. You know, what happened this year? You know, it was like, Beyonce did a tour, but so did Taylor Swift. And I was watching one of those, and I realized, I have no memory of any events from this year, news-wise, before October I was
Starting point is 00:06:56 I was like desperately trying to think like oh what are they going to talk about and I was like the queen died no that was 2022 Matthew Perry died that definitely happened this year but I couldn't think of any new stuff
Starting point is 00:07:13 there was a strike you know there was an auto worker strike there was a couple of Hollywood strike that happened but I just kind of realized that it was like man like I don't know if you guys feel this way but the last almost three months now have seemed like an eternity like it feels like the year started October 7th and we have like that was it feels like that was in January and now we're right about to hit 2024 and I'm like all that's all the news That's everything.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's, that's, and maybe that's just me. And maybe it's just you, too. Because, you know, certainly a lot of other shit happened. I'm certain, listen, for me, the majority of the memories I have from this year is watching my little baby crow. Which is nice. But in terms of, like, world events, shit, man, what the fuck else is there? Seems like this is it. And, uh, and what a bummer.
Starting point is 00:08:18 what a fucking what a horrible year you know what fuck 2023 bullshit ass year just all around bullshit ass year i mean i can't remember why other than this shit other than fucking israel deciding to do a public collective punishment in a way that is so brazen that we're all just supposed to just look at and go i don't know i guess i guess they're allowed to do that i i'm too stupid to understand why that's allowed but it must be because um no one's stopping it so okay but yeah it has uh it's been a shittier i think we can all agree i mean it seems like across the board i mean you know there's a lot of good things happened i'm sure individually personally with a lot of people but i don't know i know far more people who are like man
Starting point is 00:09:18 what a fucked year. It's just what a fucked year, man. And I'm not going to do like a look back into like what happened. No, let's stay present. Hell is happening right now, guys. We don't need to look into the past for hell. We're in it, baby. So let's talk about it. Let's rain in the new year, although by the time you're listening to this, new year has happened, with, you know, just a real quick update. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on in? the holy land you know anything cool anything fun anything great i'll look into it all right let's start out with an israel update oh as by the way as you can see there's no guest uh today this was just a random thing i just decided i was going to make this because like it was either this
Starting point is 00:10:09 or play fucking video games and i was like i'm not going to do that you know i got to do other shit. All right. So let's see what is going on with the Israel Hamas war. All right. So Israel Hamas war. I put war in quotes. I know that, so this is Al Jazeera.com. Let's start off with putting war in quotes, guys. I think it's only, seems only fair at this point. You know? Like, How is this a, I don't think this counts as a war. I think a war implies two armies. Even if they're unequal, they're still like armies. These motherfuckers, like Hamas is in tunnels.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Also, they're not really killing Hamas. They're just killing civilians. Okay, so Israel Hamas War Live. It's my favorite. NBC Saturday Night Show. Israel War Plains Bomb Central Gaza as 2024 begins,
Starting point is 00:11:22 Hey, why did I do this podcast? We got fierce ground fighting, which is going on in the center of Con Yunus. Israel says it will withdraw reservists from its Gaza ground invasion so troops can, quote,
Starting point is 00:11:39 gain strength for future battles. Well, that's nice. You know, that's good. Let's get the reservists out there. The U.S. Army has attacked three Hootty boats in the Red Sea, killing at least 10 fighters. Oh, we got those Yemeni Hootty fighters. And at least 21,822 people have been killed and 56,451 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7th. The revised death toll from October 7th attack in Israel stands at,
Starting point is 00:12:13 1139 It's time for bed Fuck off I did I think my Alexa Just fucking shaded me right there It's time for bed It's time for you to shut the fuck up
Starting point is 00:12:30 I'm telling the news I'm telling the news To To whoever the fuck's listening to this shit Because my baby's asleep And my wife is at a party Don't tell me what to do Alexa, never tell me it's time to go to bed ever again.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Sorry, I don't know that one. This fucking bitch. This fucking bitch just, I mean, I just got smoked by an Alexa. God damn. All right. I'm not sure. Alexa, don't talk. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Should listen to that. I'll show her who wears the pants in this relationship. Let's check on the baby. This is one of those podcasts that I'm like, should this have just been a stream? Probably. But I, you know, then you, I got to start a stream. Then I got to tell people to join the stream.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Anyways, so that's what's going on in Israel so far. Today, those are the things that we're dealing with. That's the news update. You know, I'm going to get a little sting going. I'm going to have like a sting that goes like, news update, you know, that'll be good for me. That'll be fun. So today, what I wanted to do while my wife is out at a party, I wanted to go through just these are a few bits of news and Hasbara from friends and or listeners of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And the first is going to be from a wonderful, wonderful person. My co-host, Vince Mancini, co-host of Pod Yourself and the Frotcast, Vince Mancini sent me this little bit of news, I suppose, that I had to share with you guys because it's just one of those things where you're just like, you look at it and you go, okay. This is history of repeating itself all over again. Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, from Itamar Man at Itaman. Oh boy. Let's see. From Israel's Channel 12, quote,
Starting point is 00:15:04 Tony Blair to head team on voluntary evacuation from Gaza. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. gentlemen, the Brits are at it again. That island filled with the ugliest people you've ever seen and then a few really, really hot ones, but mostly Uggos, at least the ones in Parliament, have decided to send their best and their brightest, you know, their number one fan of killing Arabs overseas. The one and only Tony Blair. That's right. Tony Blair. You might remember Tony Blair from such hits as the Iraq War. Remember that? Yeah, you probably do. So let's see what this says from Channel 12. To deal with the, quote, day after issue, Tony Blair arrived in Israel for
Starting point is 00:15:58 a series of meetings. Okay. So the former Prime Minister of Great Britain arrived in Israel last week and met with Prime Minister Netanyahu and Minister Gantz the goal to mediate between the Israelis, the Israeli desire regarding, quote, the day after, and between who? Is it the Palestinians? Is it Hamas? Is it anyone?
Starting point is 00:16:22 Is it the PA? No. Of course not. It's the moderate Arab countries. Gotta talk to them moderates. You know, the thing about self-determination, it's always best when it's done by this. not yourself, you know?
Starting point is 00:16:37 For Palestinians, I think we can all agree that the adults are in the room now. You know, you've got Tony Blair, great track record of doing regime change. And the, quote, moderate Arab countries being like, all right, so what are we going to do once we complete the ethnic cleansing of Gaza? Well, we certainly have to move them somewhere, right? Because we can't just, it's not ethnic cleansing if you don't get clean. So let's talk to the quote moderate Arab countries Let's go through this article
Starting point is 00:17:09 Although the issue of quote The Day After has not yet been discussed by the government Okay It is harnessing regional and international actors Ah jump in the jump in the gun are we Okay let's do it Let's get in there early and have this conversation Let's do the discourse before the government does
Starting point is 00:17:30 Because if there's one thing I'm certain of is that the government has not begun to consider what happens the day after. Also, the day after what? The day after, I would say that what they would say is, well, the day after we win the war. What does the winning the war look like? I'm pretty sure the day after, if I had to guess, if I was going to guess, I would say the day after, probably the day after not only, quote, Hamas surrenders, because they won't say Hamas surrendered until they have begun the process of completely evacuating, quote-unquote, but completely
Starting point is 00:18:16 expelling the vast majority of Palestinians from Gaza. Then eventually, once they reached around 300,000, 200,000 Arabs from 2.2 million, they will say, oh, that's it. They're gone. Hamas has surrendered. Yeah, so that'll be nice. Blair met with both Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Minister Gans, that's Benny, in meetings that were not told to the public. The goal is for him to be the messenger who will actually mediate between the Israeli's desires
Starting point is 00:18:50 regarding, quote, the day after, and between the moderate Arab countries. In addition, he will also re-examine the possibility of accepting refugees, from Gaza in the countries of the world. Hmm. Okay. Now, you do wonder what the countries of the world are, but we will see. Tony Blair is actually dealing with, quote, the day after, without the government itself deciding or drawing the political lines on the subject.
Starting point is 00:19:15 This is against the background of the fact that Netanyahu prevented the discussion in the war cabinet regarding the situation in the Gaza's trip at the end of the war. only next Tuesday will the political and security cabinet discuss the issue and also partially and not in all the components and this is translated from Hebrew so i would i would say that's a little lost in translation there but also partially and not in all the components that just means they'll you know get a broad political consensus that we have to do something with the Palestinians on the day after. And I think they're saying, it won't actually be up to you.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You got to love the greatest democracy in the Middle East, don't you? They're just so great at it. They're so good. On behalf of Tony Blair, it was stated in response, quote, the reports that Tony Blair is something to do with voluntary evacuation are not true. There was no such discussion and he does not intend to consider it either.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Regarding the discussion that was planned three days ago and was postponed religious Zionism religious Zionism issued a statement in which they were outraged that the move was done without authority. Then a few hours later, Netanyahu decided that not the limited cabinet
Starting point is 00:20:50 would discuss this issue, but the expanded cabinet. Okay, which also includes includes Ben-Gavir. Listen, if you don't know who that is, bless you, bless your heart, and welcome to this horrible world. But it's Mar Ben-Gavir.
Starting point is 00:21:14 If you need to know about him, which you do, it is very important. He is a far right-win, far right wing extremist in the government of Israel, in the Knesset. His party, which I believe only has a handful of seats, is basically considered Zionist fascists. That is the general consensus among Israelis that they are a fascist party in Israel. Now, you have to consider being far right in Israel. is really fucking far right.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I mean, you don't get much more right than that. Like, that is, you know, like the only reason they don't say Zionist Nazis is because it would offend themselves. They would accuse themselves of being anti-Semitic if they were to say that. But I think it is fair to say, and they do say, they are fascists.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And at some point we'll, you know, do a deep dive, into what politically their stances are. But, I mean, I think you can imagine. It's pretty disgusting in every sense. But that's good. They're going to expand this for everyone to hear about. It's not just going to be their limited cabinet, whatever the fuck that is.
Starting point is 00:22:48 It's going to be everyone. You know, they're going to get the whole Knesset involved to discuss the day after um yeah that is pretty fucking dark and uh you know happy new year to all and to all a good night oh no that's not it we're still we're still going and the reason we're still going is because uh my wife is still out at a party i wonder if she's having a good time she probably is um yeah stop sharing that oh man so thank you Vince so much for uh sending me fucking I just think it is insane to me to bring Tony Blair aboard I mean it makes a lot a sense if you are, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:49 uh, Netanyahu or, uh, a Zionist because, uh, it is bringing on the, you know, regime change expert, you know? Uh, this is, this is a guy who, uh, you know, was one of the few world leaders in Europe,
Starting point is 00:24:13 uh, who, due to a special relationship with the United States, decided, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go into Iraq. Yeah, do that. Yeah, no, we're right behind you. And of course, you know, in the UK, people very quickly caught on to that being a huge fucking mistake. They caught on faster than we did, I'll say that. And the fact that they would, you know, bring him in to discuss, it's just like, why do the British always have to be there to fuck up Palestine? Like, it's the, it's one of the things that the British are the best at. The British love to go, oh hello, we are a country right there.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We've got, we got Arabs and we got the Jews, yeah? We're going to just mash it all up, cut it into bits of little pieces, yeah? And just like draw boulders. I can't do a British accent. I'm sorry for British listening to this. We got to cut it and mash it and make a border here. Make sure it's a square, yeah? I'm going to go through all the Middle East and make a bunch of fucking squares.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I'm going to draw lines left and right. You ever look at a map of any, like, colonized continent? Like, if you look at Africa, you know it's colonized because you're like, that's a lot of fucking squares, fan. These are not natural borders. Like, look at the borders of actual, like, of countries in Europe, you know. You can tell that there's, like, a natural, quote, unquote, borders. Not that any border is natural.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But, like, they decide, you know, where France and. ends and Switzerland begins, right? Or like where fucking Germany ends and like based on probably, you know, I mean, obviously lots of wars, but also there's a natural element to it where they're like, oh yeah, we've got the Alps here. Let's, that's Switzerland, you know. But like you look at a map of any European colonized part of the world. just like a grid, just like, okay, you got that square Belgium, you got that square France.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm going to take the square below that. I'm Britain. I'm going to take this square. And just like, it's just so fucking disgusting. Like at some point, like, if you're a British person, aren't you like, we should leave it alone. We've caused nothing but trouble, yeah? every time we go to the middle east we just we fuck it all up it's all bungled in that we bungle it i want to make sure i'm not waking my baby no she's asleep we fuck it all up yeah but you know they can't help themselves man they're just like in that fucking weird ass parliament building yelling at each other and cocky Oh, brav.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Oh, brav. Let's go. Let's go straight to Gaza, yeah? Let's go to Gaza. And we'll just, we'll tell him where to go. We'll go to the moderate Arab states. We've got to Jordan and fucking Saudi Arabia. Like, what are the, I want to know what the West considers the moderate Arab states.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Are they the ones that are more amenable to doing oil deals with us? I have a suspicion. That's just a guess. If I had to guess, I'd say that's what it is. But yeah, no, good. Good, you know, I'm sure Tony Blair will figure it out. You know, there's always nice to put a British face on ethnic cleansing, you know, for continuity's sake. It feels right.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah, so that's hell and awful and everything's bad. Everything's so bleak. At least there's British people. Yeah, so another thing that was sent to me, sent by a friend of the show, Edo, who is from Rojovot in Israel, listens to this show, and is actually helping me make a little remix of the theme song, which I appreciate. I appreciate his musical skills.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He's very talented. musician and he also if he listens to because not because he listens to the show but since he listens to the show he is I think one of the unfortunately a few amount of Israelis who understands that Israel not the good guys which you know is it's always heartening for me to talk to Israelis who who get this, who understand this, you know? And of course, you know, there's all sorts of like political views in Israel. There's a, you know, it's a wide spectrum.
Starting point is 00:29:19 But I'm always so bummed by just how hard it is to find someone in Israel who is willing to have a sense of humor about themselves and is also willing to admit that, yeah, fucking, you know, there's good guys and bad guys. if we're going to we're going to be honest Israel not the fucking good guy and he understands at least I think I mean yes he does
Starting point is 00:29:48 he's a great guy and he sent me this to kind of talk more about the day after and this is a phrase we're going to be hearing a lot and we have heard a lot if you've been keeping up talks about the day after
Starting point is 00:30:06 what happens the day after the war oh fuck that was it's a firework what happens the day after um
Starting point is 00:30:16 you know and you know I talked about earlier you know what is the day after the day after the war ends the day after Hamas the day after
Starting point is 00:30:23 um Hamas surrenders is what they would say um which by the way if we're going to talk about that meme for a second before I get into this um when they say the day after
Starting point is 00:30:35 uh and they talk about you know One thing you'll hear a lot is, you know, Hamas could end this all. They could end it tomorrow if they just surrendered. All you people out there calling for a ceasefire, why don't you call for Hamas to surrender? That is a pretty bold, bullshit-ass statement that has been made. And you'll notice that it replaced something. It replaced, why don't you, instead of asking for a ceasefire, ask for the hostages back?
Starting point is 00:31:13 They stopped doing that because they just kept killing their own hostages. And they quickly realized that that itself is not the ends that they are actually going for. You know, the hostages returning is not if they got every single hostage back. They would not stop. And that is, I think, made perfectly clear in this insane video that I'm going to be playing for you all right now with just one of the biggest pieces of shit on here. What's this fucking guy's name? All right, I'll play you the video. But, yeah, here is a little bit about...
Starting point is 00:32:05 a little bit about these uh statements regarding whether or not getting the hostages back would do anything uh this is from uh michael david david michael holy fuck these zionists are evil despicable racists who want to white palestinian people off the face of the earth yes right here we and i want to say something i kind of listen to everybody and i don't know if This is the question you wanted to ask me. But I listen to all of you and everybody's talking about the hostage, and absolutely they have to come back all of them. However, this is not the end.
Starting point is 00:32:44 The fact that the hostage is going to come, it's not going to end something. It's just going to be the beginning of us taking care of this. Because I am not okay with living across the border of 20 or 30,000 rapists. I'm sorry. Are you? I'm done.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They have proven themselves to be, you know, to not be, you know, fully intact. Okay, and we, you know, Lee and I had a conversation about it. I feel like these are all mostly sociopaths. I'm sorry, what's that? I don't know Lee Kern was there. Lee and I had a conversation about it. I feel like these. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah, we've done talked about, yeah. We had a conversation, yeah. We had a conversation about it. You know. Even if we got them hostages back, yeah? We ain't going to live next to rapists. Look at me and Michael Rappapult. You think either of us have ever wiped someone, yeah?
Starting point is 00:33:46 No! No, we never did wipe. It's fucking weird. He's got his fucking shirt on. Oh, God. Oh, God. Leakert. My brain is leekern out my skull, mate.
Starting point is 00:34:01 These are all mostly sociopaths. Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made. Can you tell people what you're actually, your professional. Right, so I am a, I am a psychotherapist and a licensed clinical social worker. I do psychotherapy. I've done it for a living for a long time.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And I have to say, when you talk about psychopaths, psychopaths are born, okay? And it's a very small percentage in the population. Sociopaths are made. I'm sorry, but I like the idea that she's like, listen, I've got a, I don't think we should be denigrating psychopaths. psychopaths here you know a lot of us are just born that way you know i'm born that way uh fucking
Starting point is 00:34:39 alon's born that way lee is born that way uh michael rapaport born that way but but these guys they were made into sociopaths which um does that doesn't that let them more off the hook i'm sorry but that the idea that they're just like no no no no these guys were made that way. It's like, okay, if you want to go that direction, how? How do we're, what made them that way?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Like, what do you think what do you think drives people to sociopathy? I could I could think a couple things that may make person from normal guy
Starting point is 00:35:29 into sociopath guy. but not off the top of my head it could be anything it could be anything you know it could be like girl didn't uh invite uh uh uh uh you to prom and turn your sociopath it could be uh you know you uh pick glass and softball um it could be uh you know 75 years of being um exiled and killed and tortured and having your water cut off, your power cut off, your wells get cement poured in them, your family dying in front of you, your children dying in front of you, watching people get poisoned and watching your whole life be under surveillance by a state that wants nothing more than you either dead or gone. Could be any of those things drives people, craye, cray.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And I live across the border with a lovely place in a lovely town where they are made daily. And it's time for us to stand up for it and say enough. Enough is enough. I am not interested. And I have to tell you, and I'm going to speak American for a second. When I used to live in the U.S., every time I would move to a different place, I would look in the map and see if there are any pedophiles or sex offenders around me, right, in a radius of, I don't know, five miles, 10 miles, where I live in like,
Starting point is 00:36:56 three miles away from 20,000 of them. And I'm not okay with it. And I don't think I'm safe. And I don't think my kid is safe. And enough is enough. And never again means never again. That is the most insane thing. The most insane fucking thing is to make your argument.
Starting point is 00:37:26 about ethnic cleansing being just like to justify your ethnic cleansing in that way where you just go like listen I can't I can't live across the border from a place that has you know X amount of like rapists or pedophiles or you know fucking Nazis and all that stuff and then you're your solution is like so in order to like not get fucking genocided we got to do a preemptive genocide guys we got to preempt their genocide you can't kill all of us we're going to kill all of you first because we're the good guys let's hear what else is my mom so i know we're not going to talk about any data or stuff i know that michael saw that 47 minute film the other day and I saw it as well and when it was I mean amongst the many
Starting point is 00:38:33 reactions I had as someone who was in a safe room watching it and it affected me deeply even though was physically safe so yeah can I only imagine what it's like for the people who've been directly in these situations what they'll have to get over with yeah but just the one weird response was I spent a week just directly in it and understand what I saw like almost like a little boy saying I don't I don't understand it what I don't what happened I don't I don't understand i couldn't you're definitely a little boy lee if there's one thing i know about this guy oh man there's just so many characters like at this point anyone listening or watching
Starting point is 00:39:09 this podcast i have to assume like some level of like like the only reason that you're actually listening to this if you don't know me from you know listening to my other shit is because you are very familiar with this particular world of the online twitter's Zionist. And like, if you don't know Lee Kern, I mean, at some point, again, I'm going to have to introduce all y'all to Lee Kern. I can't get into all of it right now. Suffice it to say that his claim to fame is that he tried to dunk on Boots Riley, the director, writer, and rapper and he tried to dunk on him
Starting point is 00:39:56 saying that he would never he said Academy Award winning Academy Award nominated screenwriter here you'll never make anything of worth because Boots was you know is an anti-Zionist Jew and he was
Starting point is 00:40:10 you know speaking truth and Boots Riley dunked on him by pointing out that his nomination that he's talking about is for Borat 2. He was one of eight writers on Borat 2
Starting point is 00:40:27 and he's bragging this. It is just he's just a beautiful, sad little man but I mean just like this entire conversation is just such insane. And again, this is like to me not an example of Hasbara because it is not, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:40:43 I can't imagine it is intended for an American audience. I mean, it is I guess because of the framing. The framing of this is being like, would you live next to 20,000 rapists? I'm sorry, but like, I probably live next to 20,000 rapists in Los Angeles. I live in L.A. 20,000 seems low.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm sorry, but are you really claiming 20,000 rapists? Like, this very specific number of rapists are a reason for genocide, you fucking sow? Like, just see, imagine the gull. Imagine the fucking weird online BuzzFeed brain of just being like, we have to final solution people because they do sexual violence. And it's just like, this idea of like trying to justify these acts by, I don't know, by utilizing kind of like, the language of social justice you know it's like and they've done this forever in my entire
Starting point is 00:41:57 lifetime when it comes to uh um you know the war on terror when it comes to like reasons to kill Arabs the way they sell it to liberals is always in the language of social justice you know oh no it's not that we hate their religion or we we hate them for being brown or for you know whatever. It's like, no, no, no, no. We don't hate people's, like, you know, DNA. No, that would be Nazi. No, we hate them because they're problematic. Because, you know, they make, they make women cover their hair. I mean, they're not feminist, that's for sure. You know, we hate them for that. we hate them um because you know they do microaggressions that sometimes turn into macroaggressions you know there's just they're just problematic and we need to murder all of them and it's just like
Starting point is 00:42:54 it's it's so insane because you know at this point i can't imagine that people are buying it but apparently people still buy this shit i don't know how but they still fucking buy it. I went off on this tangent. I wanted to talk about Edo's thing that he sent me, you know, because we talked about this earlier, you know, the idea of the day after. And he sent me this post where a minister in the Knesset, I assume,
Starting point is 00:43:32 to Sofiova. You know, I'm going to have to find out what some of these are. but let's see he was saying that this translation was pretty perfect pretty dead on if we act strategically correctly there will be immigration and we will live in the Gaza strip so there will be Israeli immigrations of the Gaza Strip which is you know part of the end goal the other end goal is we will not allow a situation where two million people live there. And when they say people, they are specifically talking about Palestinians. If there are 100 to 200,000 Arabs in Gaza, all the talk is about the day after will be different.
Starting point is 00:44:20 All the talk is about the day after will be different. They want to leave. They have been living in the ghetto for 75 years and are in need, which, you know, earlier I was saying, and like, you know, you can't, you can't do these, like, Nazi comparisons, you know, because then, you know, they have to start calling themselves anti-Semitic. But I will say in Israel, they do often. They do pretty often do the Nazi comparisons. You know, in the West, if they see someone doing it, you know, they say, wow, how dare you. But they talk about it a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:01 And you know what? because that's the thing about analogies sometimes they're pretty fucking analogous and when they are analogous it's kind of hard to resist them especially if there's a little bit of dramatic irony now we are all meant to resist that irony
Starting point is 00:45:22 no matter how dramatic how obvious how blatant and how analogous But, you know, in Israel, they don't shy away from that shit. And the only difference is when he says this, he is also simultaneously saying that they are going to have 100 to 200,000 Arabs in Gaza left. Yeah, I mean, pretty insane. I don't believe meant for American eyes, but, you know, I appreciate you sending that.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And fucking, hey, man, if that isn't fucking dark as shit. Fuck. What if 2024 is better, you guys? What if it's better? How's my baby? Baby check. She's still asleep. Let's do a text check.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Is my wife coming home? Not yet. At some point she's going to see this, though, and she's going to be like, I thought you were going to play video games. And I'll be like, nah. All right, moving on. Last thing I want to talk about before we get out of here. This is a email that I got from a listener, Kim S. I don't want to say the full name because I didn't say whether or not I was actually going to,
Starting point is 00:46:56 you know published their email but kim thank you so much um and by the way if you want to email i did start a bad hasbara email account uh bad hasbara at gmail dot com email me if you are someone who i mean if you want to say something nice if you want to fucking you know just vibe whatever send me a funny photo please do uh if you want to tell me about your time uh as a zionist uh there's been a good amount of that of people who are former Zionists who have, you know, seen the light and are like, holy fuck. These guys are
Starting point is 00:47:34 psychos, not sociopaths. They weren't made. They were born that way. No, they were made too. But yeah, so Kim says, Matt, I was at the if not now rally and shut down at Hollywood Highland, loved everything he had to say.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. She said a bunch of nice stuff. She says, I used to work for Halel and the Jewish Federation I call that phase of my career my unintentional fast track to anti-Zionism in the early to mid-aughts
Starting point is 00:48:07 and let me tell you that as bar bullshit for college students was wild. I had to enlist a friend for help and scouring the internet for this because I haven't stopped thinking about it since seeing the unhinged Jubalong content
Starting point is 00:48:23 but the image I'm linking below was on a postcard among several other images that were designed to be provocative and get students talking about Israel enjoy so she sent me this and I must share it with everyone here this is what this is a postcard that she sent and let me show you Israel Israel is tiny. Here we go. My God. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Okay. Let me see if I can blow this up so everyone can see it. How do I do that? All right. There it is. You can see it. For those of you listening at home, which I hope you are. It is, says Israel, it's a postcard that says Israel, not as big as you think.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And there is a hot, almost naked. man who is, I mean, it looks like he has got, his whole body has got borders on it. We've got Mauritania. What do we have? Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan. Like, he's cut up, you know, with borders. And right in the middle, right where his cock and balls would be, is a thong that just says Israel on it.
Starting point is 00:49:51 He is spread eagle. and we see just this song and it says Israel not as big as you think first of all the messaging here confusing because if this is pro-Israel you're kind of talking about the dick size you're saying
Starting point is 00:50:08 something that is objective not true Jews' penis is many shapes and sizes some are big some are small some are massive I mean mine personally I think we all know you know I'm talking about the size of a Red Bull, but longer.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Not as big as my brother's, the size of a Coke can. It's a big dick. Shout out to Evan. You got a big ass dick. Anyways, Israel is tiny. Let's see if I can read this shit. At one spot in its pre-1967 borders, you can drive across its nine mile with in just a few minutes. driving from Tel Aviv on the western edge of the country to Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:50:56 on the eastern edge takes under an hour. Israel, with its 6.6 million Jewish Christian and Muslim citizens in a country, the size of New Jersey, is surrounded by 19 Arab and Muslim countries with a landmass and population equal to that of the entire United States. And in bold it says, Now imagine living in New Jersey While most of the people living in the other 49 states Want to see you destroyed
Starting point is 00:51:26 Listen, it's a, you know It's quite a message To it's like you're saying a lot It's hard to Fully take it all in when you're seeing the the guy's little dick like it's you're just all I see is you're saying Israelis have little dicks and I
Starting point is 00:51:54 that's even I don't think that's fair I'm an anti-Zionist but I'm like some Israelis don't have little dicks some don't for sure you know like there's just like listen I'm just I would never paint any people with a broad brush I would never say there's any ethnicity, nationality race whatever out there with, you know, the same size dick.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Especially, you know, I would never say small. This is just, it's unfair because I, there's got to be some Israelis with big dicks. Edo, he's got a big dick. Yeah, my homie gnome, big dick. Yeah, so, you know, this is, this is a great thing. thing about working um you know doing this kind of work is as you see as you see a lot of the the old has bar you don't hear much about the new jersey thing anymore this was a big thing uh when i went on birthright um it was like one of the many lines that they had you know other than we invented the
Starting point is 00:53:02 cherry tomato it was like uh um they just kept mentioning you know it's a state the size of new jersey it's only as big as new jersey can you imagine it's this small country only the size of new jersey and like i remember at the time being like it's very specific i mean i assumed that like they had done like the square mileage and realized like yeah it's about new jersey you know they're not gonna say connecticut oh we're bigger than connecticut fuck connecticut massachusetts it's not it's the wrong direction massachusetts similar in landmass but the wrong you know it's got to be fucking vertical not horizontal but yeah the new jersey thing was always uh weird but it I always also heard it in this context,
Starting point is 00:53:48 where the context very specifically was that Israel is so tiny, so small. It is a small, so little. It is a small little being who is scared, scared of neighbors, evil neighbors everywhere who want to kill it, when they just want to be a small being. That's just, that's all Israel is. It's small being. And sometimes when small being gets threatened, it turns into big bean by doing genocide.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Because it has to, because it's small. I just want to be warm. It just want to be warm, small. I don't know, guys. I'm tired. I wake up at 6 in the morning. Listen, I'm not used to doing a podcast, just me talking. All right?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Whenever I always, I like to have someone else to talk to, but this was a. a last-minute decision, and I'm not regretting it. I'm standing by this decision to just be alone and talk about Israel's shit. But yeah, this, just as this entire concept of like, Israel's small, what's the big deal? You know, yeah, sure, we know how the cleansing is bad, but what if it's only a little bit? What if it's just a teeny tiny ethnic cleanse? It's just, it's an ethnic sponge bath. It's not a cleanse.
Starting point is 00:55:14 It's just a little spongy. this idea of like israel being small um kind of goes out the window when you consider that um you know uh gaza the strip the small part of the small country uh it's about the size of manhattan um and so it's just like you know would it be a little bit of ethnic cleansing if manhattan got ethnic clinton? I mean, you know, it's just like this, this idea of Israel being small is meant to frame Israel as this David and Goliath thing. They are always David, they're never Goliath. They can't be because the landmass is small. But then when you look at the, I mean, not just the economics, but also, you know, the backing, you look at, like, who is the
Starting point is 00:56:06 outpost for Western imperialism? You know, it is fucking Israel. Like, who is got the support of the biggest thug on the block, the United States. Israel, there's just this idea that they are a small bean and therefore anything that they do can only ever be self-defense is, uh, it's classic Hasbara. You still, you just, you don't hear about the New Jersey stuff anymore. That was a big one. I always bring up size of New Jersey, size of New Jersey. I think it's because they knew that a lot of us, you know, are, uh, have, New Jersey ancestry. At least I do. Um, so they were like, they'll know where New Jersey is. But yeah, that is, uh, that is, that is, that is just wonderful. I mean, that is fucking beautiful.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Thank you. Thank you, Kim. I love this. Uh, and, uh, what else you say? And if you're thinking, this is the rest of the email and then we'll, we'll close it out. Because at some point, my wife's going to be back any minute. She finds me podcast and, oh boy, I'm going to get it. And if you're thinking there is nothing college students love more than dong, so we should hand out condoms that say, Israel, it's safe to come on the wrapper, then you'd be correct. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Let me see this. Let me see this. Okay. Pro-Israel campus condom giveaway raises eyebrows. Get breaking news on Israel. You're already getting it. All right. I'm sorry. that was a pop-up um let's see oh do we have a picture no picture oh okay this is a large uh this is part of a large campaign called got israel oh boy
Starting point is 00:57:57 i because remember milk uh and it's only uh one of only about five or six programs that they did that got and it's the only one that got media attention yeah um yeah condoms condoms that said is okay to come on the rap I don't even understand that hold on condoms prove the point that Israel is the only country in the Middle East
Starting point is 00:58:27 in which women and homosexuals are entitled to equal rights. This is an article that came out in the Jewish news of Northern California in 2003 yes the condoms come equipped with a card
Starting point is 00:58:43 discussing, quote, sexual freedoms and women's rights in different Middle Eastern countries and Israel. It showed the literacy rates of women and the percentage of women employed whether homosexual is legal. On that basis, people could make their own decisions of how free and democratic Israel is. Is this all on the condom? Are you supposed to read condoms? I haven't been reading. doing condom wrong? I've not read one. It usually just says on the front, you know, Trojan, Magno, for me specifically. Double XL. I'm so fucking stupid. But not everyone got the joke or cared to. After photos and an article about the late April giveaway appeared in the San Diego Jewish Heritage newspaper, the campus Hallel began receiving some angry phone calls. Executive Director
Starting point is 00:59:43 Rabbi Lisa Goldstein confirmed that she has lost some donors, but she would not say how many. Come my, listen, I'm sure that the reason that they were not donating has nothing to do with apartheid and has everything to do with them being prudes. And I don't approve of prudes, but I do approve of not funding any American Zionist organizations. Anyways, that's, uh, that's incredible. That's a lot of fun. Uh, again, thank you, Kim. That is, it's just, uh, it's always, it's always beautiful when someone tells me their experience of what it was like for them when they were working, um, you know, in these types of things. Or if they, you know, some people have been, uh, writing in and talking about their own, um, birthright experiences and we've been, you know, sharing stories and stuff. on the Discord, which, by the way, you can join. If you go to patreon.com slash broadcast, I need the money. And Vince needs the money.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And Vince is great. Vince is wonderful. We talk about movies together. That's what I really like doing. You know, this I like doing too. I've wanted to do this for a while. But sometimes I just want to just watch an episode of Downton Abbey talk about it with some friends.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That probably won't be the next show we'd do we're still doing the wire but someday i love how it was it was brave enough to start this podcast but i am still afraid to start that doughton abbey rewatch podcast because i i mean i i i just fear that will appeal to no one you know i just i don't want to i don't want to alienate people you know but i'll talk about israel all day i don't give a shit but when it comes to like doughton abbey i'm i just don't want to ruffle any feathers you know i don't want people to you know be disinterested you know it's such a good show guys so good it's a beautiful show and this has been a beautiful show um thanks to anyone who's listening to this episode um if uh
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Starting point is 01:02:35 You can be like, I liked it a lot. Or I fucking hate it. I fucking hate that guy. I'm British. And he was doing my accent. but always give five stars that'd be great um and uh yeah if you're watching this on on youtube um fucking cool i guess you know i guess people watch podcasts and uh that that is that's why i put it out in video form i just didn't think people actually watch it but they're watching
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Starting point is 01:04:35 Maybe I'll share it on the pod. I don't know. I love emails I love corresponding with you guys I love everyone who's actually listening to this shit because again the reason I'm doing this in the fucking you know middle of New Year's Eve is because
Starting point is 01:04:50 it had been a few days we went out of town and I was like I want to do a little episode usually I take a lot of care you know to like I gotta get guests I got to make clips I got to do that but this one I just do on the fly
Starting point is 01:05:06 and I like that I like doing it on the fly. And I promise you, this show will get better, probably. You know, I mean, unfortunately, I think I think it's going to keep going.
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