Bad Hasbara - The World's Most Moral Podcast - [EXCERPT] Daniel and Jacob Berger

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everybody, you're about to watch a portion, a taste, a mouthful, and a moose-bush, actually a rather large mouthful, of our recent Patreon-only episode with Jacob Berger. I do this because I love Jews. It disgust me the way Zionism is hijacked Judaism. It tries to make us a monolith. It's disgusting. That's how generous we are. We make a Patreon-only episode. We put it behind a paywall. And then we give you a good part of it anyway. You've earned it. But we hope it will wet your palate and get you interested in joining our Patreon at patreon.com slash bad hasbara so you can get early access to all episodes
Starting point is 00:00:44 and in the future when we put out Patreon-only content like this, which we plan to do, you will get full access to it. And some more incentive for you to do so on this episode is there's a whole section with Matt Lieb. Fuck, I did I... Where the fuck were you? I'm sorry. He said smilingly.
Starting point is 00:01:04 See, Matt was late for this Jacob Berger interview. He didn't get to join us. He had some things come up. They sounded like valid reasons to me. Listen, I, uh, I have a baby. We're going to give him the benefit of the doubt. But Matt and I hung out for another full 45 minutes or so, made fun of some wacky Hasbara. Here's a little clip.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And because it disemployed. important for us to tell you that you are going to get the glimpse of the peoples of Israel in all its entity. Hold on, hold on. In all its what? In all its sanity, bro. That's so funny. You're about to get how normal and sane we are.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Everyone ready to get, are you ready to get not crazy? Yeah. Let's get ready to normal. Ah, wasn't that tasty? Don't you want more? Well, go to patreon.com slash bad hasbarra and get your fill. Okay, here comes the Jacob interview
Starting point is 00:02:11 or at least a good portion of it. And from the river to the sea, subscribe at patreon.com slash bad hasbara for the entirety. Tell us a bit about the activism you've been doing since October 7th. And then we're going to take a look at one of your wonderful man on the street videos that you've been making.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But tell us more generally. Absolutely. So just to give you a sense of who I am, like I said, my name is Jacob Berger. I'm a TV film actor, content creator, an activist. I used to be a social worker before I became an actor. So I've always been very motivated by social justice issues, fighting for the oppressed, all those types of things. You know, people called me a sellout when I started making content for Black Lives Matter. in 2013 and you know they called me a sell-out now to jews because i'm supporting
Starting point is 00:03:03 palestine um i came out day one after october 7th making a story post first i was like guys this is horrible what happened but we need to remind ourselves this does not happen in a vacuum that Palestinians have been oppressed for 75 at that time 75 years in october um can ask you a quick question though jen yeah yeah yeah how's the selling out thing going for you are you really capitalizing I mean, it is, it's the obvious money move. We all did it for the, for the material rewards. I mean, Daniel, I don't know if my George Soros check got lost in the mail or one or the checks from Iran, but I haven't gotten any yet.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And like, it's really annoying because like everyone keeps saying I'm making all this money from, from supporting because everyone knows obviously also, you know, I work in TV film and Hollywood. Everyone knows that the industry is run by, you know, Palestinian Muslims, you know. So obviously, like, I'm making the smart career choice speaking out. obviously. Yeah, 100%. I mean, look, HR, I think, there's been some turnover. So, you know, some of the internal correspondence, the accounting, but hang in there. I mean, but anyway, to finish to answer your question. So like, I, a week after October 7th, I made a statement, a video statement, like a four minute long, like a Jewish American perspective
Starting point is 00:04:18 on, on Israel, Palestine. And it went viral. It got, it got like a million views on my Instagram. It went viral on TikTok. And that's like when the Arab Muslim world started noticing me and stuff. And then I went out to D.C. later that week with a if not now and Jewish voices for peace.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And we, you know, it was very nice to be around other anti-Zionist Jews who feel the same way and it was very moving to be there. And then I just started working, but they weren't really my pace. Honestly, I have kind of issues with some of the the pro-Palestinian Jewish organizations
Starting point is 00:04:55 I feel like a lot of them are really just there for to make themselves feel better like they don't actually want resistance and revolution and so I think it's just like okay I'm not one of the bad ones like you know like they do a lot of cool things and stuff like that I'm not trying to hate and we're all allies but I think you
Starting point is 00:05:11 understand what I'm getting at like they're not revolution that's why I really much the Muslim organizations like within our lifetime and things like that people are really trying to create disorder and stuff in the world Yeah, you're a disruptor. I really get that about you. And I think whatever you think about different activist organizations, some are to my taste, some aren't, but everyone doing what they're
Starting point is 00:05:35 best at, to me, is generally speaking the best principle. So a group like standing together in Israel, for a lot of people, that's just not sufficient what they're calling for. And I get that in their context, they're putting themselves actually at quite a bit of risk. And they put their bodies on the line and there's a fair amount of collaboration going on but anyway i want to talk about you and what what is it about you how did you grow up and come up that this kind of physical confrontation style of activism this you know this uh what can we say agitation of fecal matter um is uh is is your go-to like what is it how does that i think it's just because like you know i go to a lot of these rallies as i go to rallies every weekend it was funny at first people thought
Starting point is 00:06:21 I was undercover cop because I do look like a cop like a tall white guy at a Muslim rally like you know but then when my first video went viral they were like oh he's with us okay like cool
Starting point is 00:06:31 you know like I don't go out of my way looking for Zionists but they like to come to our rallies and like try and harass our people and stuff like that and you know we have a group of Orthodox Jews are always with us and obviously they're religious men
Starting point is 00:06:47 they're not gonna get aggressive they literally they'll have the bad faith conversation with these people that I refuse to have because the reality of Zionists feel so comfortable going up to the Orthodox Jews in our rallies because it's like, okay, I can say horrible genocidal things to this guy
Starting point is 00:07:04 but they won't go up to someone who's Muslim or Palestinian and say the same because they know like... Yeah, they feel comfortable going up to an Orthodox Jew and saying you should have died in Auschwitz. With you, with you, it's a little bit more iffy because you might do something, you know? Yeah, so that's why like I'm a New York Jew like I don't play around with that shit
Starting point is 00:07:20 So, like, that one video, I don't know if you've seen it with the blonde ladies who's screaming at them. You're not real Jews. They're killing you're not real Jews. I was like, lady, we're all Jews here. Like, look, I don't care how much of a scumbag Zionist. I think you are. I'll never try to invalidate your Judaism and say you're not a Jew
Starting point is 00:07:35 just because you support genocide. Hey, Blondie, Blondie, you're as Jewish as me. With that Nordic-looking face. She was as a Semitic as a Chinese person. Like, let's be so for real. Like, that's why it's crazy to me. like people legit think like we Ashkenazi Jews like myself who come from Russia and Ukraine and everything like that that we're from Judea and that well I'm like bro we're not
Starting point is 00:08:01 we're not like stop it like it's just so disingenuous and like you know I just have certain questions that I do to piss like the Zionists they they hate me because I break down every single thing about oh it's about hating Jews and not like no I'm Jewish like I do this because I love Jews. It disgust me the way Zionism is hijacked Judaism. It tries to make us a monolith. It's disgusting. I've always stood up for the oppressed.
Starting point is 00:08:30 My grandfather, Arnold Wolfe, he was a famous rabbi of Chicago. He marched with Dr. King, civil rights leaders, always on the forefront with things. If you look at history, Jewish Americans have always been at the forefront of important political and social movements. So I'm just carrying in that tradition and don't believe, I don't know. anyone really believes the Zionist lies anymore, I'm pretty sure it's only them in their echo chamber that they
Starting point is 00:08:54 believe this stuff. And that's why what I do is important because I also have, like a lot of my content, a lot of my audience is predominantly black and Latino. And through no fault of their own, a lot of them had no knowledge or history of this conflict of Israel, Palestine. And when I started getting messages from people saying, Jacob, you really educated me
Starting point is 00:09:13 on this topic for free Palestine, like all day long, you know? Well, it's a shame. It's a shame Kamala didn't hold one of her international relations classrooms on this topic. She could have said, Israel is a country. Israel is a country. It's a small country, you know, the way she did with Russia and Ukraine and explained it to everybody. I mean, it's so good what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:09:35 You're educating people. You're also giving voice to the rage as, let's eat a condition under the coconut tree, says Adam. Shout out to producer Adam Levin. You know, there are so many different. different reactions, I think, to emotionally speaking. This genocide, these horrors, this, this horror show that we're seeing brings up rage for some people or at some times. It brings up grief. And there are some commentators that are sort of, they're really good at channeling the grief. I think part of what Matt and I do is we channel the absurdity, you know. But what you're doing
Starting point is 00:10:11 with your, it's like you're giving a, a rageful, strong masculine, if I'm allowed, to say that version of version of an american jew who can like really i'm really i'm really just matching their energy quite honestly daniel because they'll come in there screaming like like like you're you rate baby you're not i understand the third you're not just like you're like yo lady shut the fuck up like i'm from new york i'm a actor comedian i'm going to say funny that's why they're like go back to gaza i'm like lady they would love to go back to gaza they're Palestinian but Israel will not allow Palestinians the right to return. Like, they run right into the point, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:54 This is why I could never do what you do, because if someone shouted me, you rape babies. I'd say, no, I always get their consent. You know, see, and that, like, you see, like, that's just where my mind goes. Don't clip that. Don't clip that. No, but it's good to troll them.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It's good to troll them. Yes, I, that's what my brain glitches when people say absurd things, and it glitches, you know. I have these Zionist influencers who will make a video about me, And all I'll do is repost it. I don't even make a real video. And then they start crying victim when my community goes over there and disrupts their echo chamber and starts commenting how they're genocidal freaks and everything like that. And then they're crying about it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I'm like, I didn't docks anyone or anything. I just literally report like, don't shoot at the king and then miss and then get mad. And I bet they're fans of Libs of TikTok. That's all she does or that's all she used to do. In any case. And they're all cowards on TikTok. big on TikTok. I have a bigger following on TikTok and I'm very active. I go live every day. I go on panels. 99% of the people, oh yeah, well, everyone loves me. But 99%
Starting point is 00:11:57 even the Zionists love me. I have them give me gifts and stuff like that. I'm like, look, if you want to stick around, make sure you subscribe. You'll never miss a live. You can hate on me every time I'm on live. You know, it doesn't get under my skin because I've been on the internet for many years. So this is not new to me. This is not new territory for me in that regard. Man, if you can get Zionists to subscribe to you just because I've had I just give me money. Because they can't get enough of... That's like someone being your sugar...
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's like Howard Stern. That's like someone being your sugar daddy and hate fucking you at the same time. It's that Howard Stern effect. Like the people who like me, watch me watch me for two hours. Like, you know, it's that same sort of like... Good for you.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Effect, but I forgot where the point is. Well, that's what happens on this show. We forget the point and then we just find a new point. I want to get to one of your videos, but first, have you heard from any... Because I've had some people tell me that my content has, in some ways, deprogram them or at least help them along in a deprogramming that was bound to happen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I get messages every day from Jewish people that tell me, Jacob, I feel so alone because all my family are Zionists. But seeing you so boldly state unapologetically, like, I do not support Israel. We are not all Zionists. That gives me the confidence to speak out. And I also get messages from Arabs and Muslims who tell me, Jacob. I thought that all Jewish people were Zionists because that's the only experience I've had
Starting point is 00:13:21 but watching your videos and seeing the comments make me realize that we can be that we're you know that we can be together that's not the case so the work I'm doing honestly Daniel I'm not trying to be grandiose but this is far bigger than me at this point yeah I just happen to have a platform and I'm a Jewish
Starting point is 00:13:37 American and it's my duty because at the end of the day the way we change the things the way America treats Israel and Palestine it's going to fall on us American Jews We are the ones that have to push the ball. You're not just an American Jew. You're a New York Jew, which is to, that's the top of the mountain in terms of American Jewish identity. This is where we landed.
Starting point is 00:13:58 This is the default accent, you know, the cadences of New York, of American Jews. And it's also the real Jewish state. And that's why, yes, it's definitely the real Jewish state. I always talk about like the Jew states, like New York, California, Florida. Yeah. But, you know, one thing that the Zionists constantly. do and when I get into a little panel discussions that they try and
Starting point is 00:14:20 devaluate my Judaism. They say you're a self-hating Jew, you're a Capo, you're a Jew, you're a Jew, literally calling me a judan rat without any irony at all knowing that the Nazis literally called us Judean rats. And they're like they, it goes, the irony goes
Starting point is 00:14:36 all over their, like they don't even realize. And the fact that they call me a capo, it just shows the self-victimization complex of Zionists that they feel like, because for those don't know, I'm sure your audience probably does know, but Akapo was the Jewish guards in the concentration camps
Starting point is 00:14:52 that helped the Nazis' day-to-day operations and basically you know, sell-up. So in their minds... Sellouts who sold out under extremely dire situations where their own survival... So in a way, it's also a kind of hatred
Starting point is 00:15:08 of victimhood because of the compromises people make under the fucking conditions of Auschwitz. So Daniel, it's just to land the plane here. It shows their level of victim mentality. They think that as an American Jew right now, that we're in the same conditions of Nazi Germany, that we're
Starting point is 00:15:24 people literally think I'm walking us into the, like that, I'm gerbils walking us into the gas chambers. Like, do you have any like, that is so fucking offensive to our ancestors. Like, my family came here before the Holocaust, but like, it is just gross the way that they try and use that analogy.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That, because I say free Palestine, because I don't support genocide, that I'm a copo somehow. Like, that is absolutely nuts. Well, it tells you how divorced they are from, yeah, Adam says, if we're the sellouts, then Zionists think they're the punk rockers. How divorced they are from the actual history of the Holocaust and what it really means. And religion, too. And religion, too, they don't even read the Torah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Like, I personally, I'm like a New York Jew. So I'm not religious. I'm actually atheist. I know that people might get mad about that. But I don't need a religious textbook to tell me how to be a good person and what's wrong and see what's happening over there. You know, I'm very much a cultural Jew. It's like, you know, we celebrate the high holy days.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's very much part of our personality. But let's be for real. This is what you don't need to be a religious person to watch what's happening and realize that's fucked up and wrong, you know? Oh, 100%. I mean, of course, you do have religious people in Israel. You know, hijack that government. That was I bring it up was that people try to say we have this biblical connection to the land.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'm like, if you read the Torah, the Torah literally tells you Abraham is from Babylon. He was the father of all messiah. religion. He's Iraqi. He's Iraqi. And it even says in Genesis 12, go forth from your land to this other, I'm, you know, I'm maxing up a quote, but basically it's like, go forth from your land, which is Babylon, to this other place where the Canaanites were there. And God told him the slay the Canaanites. And the Canadianites, I would guarantee you, Palestinians have far more Canaanite blood than, than me or Benjamin Net Yahoo, which isn't even his real name. He was born in Philadelphia. The fuck. Benjamin Milibu.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Vusky of something like that. Something like that. I have a couple of Israeli friends who have decided to call themselves Hebrew Canaanites as opposed to Israelis because they've, you know, they're the entire, in solidarity with the Palestinians of that land.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They don't want to consider themselves part of this Israeli state. They're looking for a new, and they have a YouTube channel. Anyway, I want to get to one of your videos because one of the things I also appreciate about you. I mean, people say you're an anti-Semite or you're self-hating.
Starting point is 00:17:44 No, man, you made this beautiful video. which was actually geared towards us Jews about keeping us safe on the streets of New York City like these are safety tips, right? Yeah, well, why don't we... I mean, it's mocking the sort of clutching of burrows. Oh, don't give it away. Don't give it away. Don't give it away.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I don't give it away. Okay. Hey, everybody, New York Jew here. And today we're going to be doing part two of this series. We're going to learn how to mind your own business and not self-victivized. I am not afraid. What's my face on camera. So before we go into...
Starting point is 00:18:16 this new topic, let's see what I'm talking about. Please, sir, can you come and help me, please? I see I'm safe, can you come and help me? Safe and I'm afraid. That's pretty wild stuff, right? Let me show you now, as a Jew, how to walk past a crowd without a problem. Here, come on, come on, we're walking here, we're walking here. I'm walking here.
Starting point is 00:18:33 See, there's no problem. No one, don't give a couple looks or anything like that. You just find your business. You just find your business. All right, so you see how that work. Now let's try it why having to star David out. Let's see if we get any different. reaction. Come on, let's go, we're walking here.
Starting point is 00:18:48 We're walking. Palestine will never die. Palestine will never die. In our thousands, in our millions. We are all Palestinians. We are all Palestinians. Proudly displaying it. I mean, as long as you don't harass people, it's not going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:19:05 My family My family fought Hitler is not like you Zionist coward No, free Palestine, free Palestine Exactly all day Beautiful That was part two actually But yeah, it's still
Starting point is 00:19:22 The message is still there Like it's the self-victimization of America, especially New York's I mean, it's just so preposterous Like when people in Palestine and Gaza that literally can't walk the streets because they're literally being blown up and you and you miss Darren
Starting point is 00:19:40 on the upper west side want to say you feel unsafe because you walk by a college campus and there's some people protesting give you a fucking break. Well it's kind of it's like you're just being not to sound like a dim but like you're being weird if you're like disrupting a
Starting point is 00:19:57 protest of people calling for an end to a genocide by yelling at other Jews that you're not really a Jew and like, okay, if you want to be a weirdo, fine. If you want to, I don't know, go to the Met Gala in a furry outfit or if you want to walk through Central Park in some kind of outlandish, I'm not coming up with an example, but don't be upset when people like stop you and say, hey, you're acting a little strange, a little antisocial, and you're also a, if you want to dump a bear cub in Central Park,
Starting point is 00:20:31 thank you very much. Oh, yeah, that's a funny, funny, funny story. I killed a bear and I was going to skin it. What did he got there? Oh, no, I was a little ball. It's just for Carlisdine. Oh, I should grab my little watermelon, what's it called, the stress ball. Matt, Matt still isn't here.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That's crazy. We still don't have Matt. That's crazy. Has he sent any more excuses? Do we believe him at this point? Or is he just genuinely detained? I think we're doing great without him. Oh, yeah, we're doing great, but I just want to make sure, you know, like...
Starting point is 00:21:05 He's on a flight to Haifa. Oh, that's so great. It was either, you know, take this podcast to the top of the charts or make Alia. And I think he went for the safe option. The video that we just showed, that was actually at a press conference after the cops had violently attacked us when we were doing a protest a couple days prior. That was in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, which is obviously a humongous Palestinian community out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Also, home of Tanurin, one of the best Palestinian restaurants in all years. Well, we can argue for days and weeks of which restaurant is the best out there. Are you an Ayat guy? Well, I have a few people that they feed me at their restaurant, so like fire kebab and stuff like that. You know, I need to stay loyal to them. But, yeah, it's just, for a while, when I was doing content, it was all kind of serious. It was at the rallies. It was kind of had a very serious tone to it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But then I was like, you know what? like I'm a comedian like and these people are being so fucking ridiculous and they're white women tears and their crocodile tears and they're pretending like they feel unsafe I need to I need to roast them I need to do something so I started making comedy content about topic and people really really respond to the first one I did of teaching Zio's out of walk that one did uh like I think 10 million views on my TikTok like you know um wow and and um if people just really respond I mean, I did one recently where Hamas was literally obo Obo Abba was thanking me in the thing. Like so it's a really funny skit where he's like, we will bring, we will bring the phrase in Arabic. I actually had a guy from Gaza to like say it for me. He's like, and by the way, before we go, we just want to thank Jacob Berger. I'm like, what? Like every night, every time we get back from fighting the infidels,
Starting point is 00:22:55 there's nothing we like more than just cuddling up and watching some of his videos. Wallah, he is the best. And I'm just like, oh, and then Israel calls, you know. I have some other videos, too that are like way too. I had this one where, because, you know, I did this other one where it's like when you're Jewish mom wants you still to have Jewish babies and she sets me up with a pro-paly girl. It's a really cute skit, honestly. But I want to do one where I see a kidnap poster and I go walk up to it and I go to rip it off. And then another hand at the same time, like in the movies.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And it's just like my perfect, like, pro-Pali Muslim babe and we like fall in love. like it's just you know i mean i have i have a very dark sense of humor there's some things that i like i want to do but i'm like i don't know they're gonna got a bug out of my doing yeah well and where did this uh this strong sense of solidarity with the new york muslim community start were you already deeply connected or was it just you kind of stood up on your on your principles and that's where you met them yeah it's just where i gravitated towards so like i said the first week i went out to dc and joined the if not now a jewish voices peace because, you know, I'm Jewish.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So I was like, let me go with some fellow Jews, see what the vibe is. But like I said, wasn't really my pace. So then I checked out within our lifetime, well, Palestine. And that was way more, like, the messages and the conversations that we're having were way more about, like, they were way more my speed. So I've learned so much about Islam and Muslims because, you know, I grew up in a post-9-11 world. I was, I was, I was 17 when 9-11 happened. and just the amount of Islamophobia that became normalized in our country
Starting point is 00:24:32 and, like, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's gonna, I mean, it's, I'm sure it's being studied now, but like, I mean, I didn't really have any close Muslim friends at that time for most of my life. And it was always kind of this weird thing where it's like, I don't really quite get it. Okay, they pray five times a day and da-da-da-da. But it's like, oh, Bin Laden, scared.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Like, you know, like just the typical American, like, way that we've been brainwashed. And what I've learned over the last 10 months has been honestly super high. opening, just to see that, you know, Muslims do not have hatred in their heart at all for Jews. This is about Zionism. It is not about Jews, you know, Judaism and Catholic and Christianity are constantly referenced in the Quran. And just, you know, working together, I'm not trying, like I said, I'm not trying to be grandiose, but I know, I do know how important my voice
Starting point is 00:25:22 as a Jewish American is, especially when so many content creators are cowards and refuse to put anything on the line. And I'm calling people out. I'm not going to say anything specific. But, like, I just think about everyone who is rah, rah, rah, Rob, Black Lives Matter 2020, like making their profile picture, you know, all this sort of armchair activism. Maybe they went to
Starting point is 00:25:41 one rally, but they're dead quiet about Palestine. Or all these fake liberals who think they're liberal, they think they're progressive, except Palestine. Like, you know, to me, you can't be a progressive if you don't support Palestine. It doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:57 compute. Well, international affairs has always been a weak spot of the American liberal left. They don't connect the solidarity struggles here with the solidarity struggles. Now, if you look, or even just a direct connection, it's not even an intersection. It's like they directly connect. One road leads the other, but the people in Ferguson understood that their struggle and Gaza's struggle were interconnected. And the people in Gaza realized that too. You would see, and you see George Floyd murals on the apartheid wall in Israel you know but yeah
Starting point is 00:26:31 I mean that's the other thing is like if you know anything about history like black liberation and Palestinian liberation have always been hand in hand you talk about writing as Malcolm X of James Carl Michael of Fred Hampton Black Panthers that's that's always been a part so it's really important understand that's why on Saturday
Starting point is 00:26:48 we had a rally for Palestine but it was also a rally for Sonia Massey because we realized that this is all interconnected you know the police the way they oppress people there to protect the pilot. And NYPD is trained by IDF. Like, so it's all like interconnected. Like, you know, that's what we're trying to do. I want people to wake up.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I want people to get angry. I want I wake up every day with anger in my not anger like, you know what I mean. I'm just very much like, Matt, and I wish I could do more, Daniel. I honestly wish I could do more. I do everything I can by going to rallies
Starting point is 00:27:21 and making content. But some days it's just really hard, Daniel, you know? Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is a very hard journey. And I just don't get it. There's people dying
Starting point is 00:27:35 every day. And America's just letting it happen. Literally, I watch kids, people putting body, baby's body parts, shit's and bags. And then I get gasped and told that I'm not a real Jew or that I want people to see my, like, it's just preposterous.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I'm sorry to get so emotional, but this is real life to me. yeah well there's no apology necessary i mean you're you're a brave man for willing being willing to show your scars and show your your pain at this we're all feeling it but not all of us have the gift of wearing our hearts on our sleeves like you do and and this podcast is you know we keep we keep the pain at bay with an ironic 10-foot pole and i really appreciate you a short movie no no no no no but that's but that's not a rule that's just me and matt's right you know handicap really right um so you're you're very very welcome to be passionate here and and you're
Starting point is 00:28:29 right it's to to even stop for a second and consider what's actually happening and what's happened to our people um as a result what's happened to the the soul of the jewish people that zionism has done there's so much to grieve and mourn yeah i mean it sounds like because i remember before october 7th like i looked like when i met someone who was jewish it would be like this it's the connection like oh we're jews we're mishmuka like we're like you know we have this same raise and everything but now when i mean jewish people it's like okay like are they Zionists or are they like you know and it's this loss of community it sucks that like i've had literally everyone turn their back on me like all the friends i used to have like my best friends
Starting point is 00:29:11 stop talking to me because i said fuck the police because he loves the cops or whatever like or just people who come out of the woodworks like i'm literally like got a whole new group of friends now. Like, I'm not really rocking with anyone who's not talking about. I got, I unfollowed the other day, pretty much all my social media friends because no one, there's so many people who watch everything I post every single day. They never comment. They never message. And they'll try and put, oh, I need to go do my research. Bro, we're 10 months in. Don't give me that research line bullshit, right? You know, it just, it just, I don't know what it's going to take to get people to wake up and be as passionate as we are about this issue. It just sucks that
Starting point is 00:29:47 Americans just want to sit here in their tiny, comfortable, like, apartment with their air conditioning and their TV and their phone and just own the fuck out. And it's not normal for me to be on my feed. And it's like, get ready with me. It's like, oh, no, no, no. And then a baby's head literally blown off from his body. And that, like, it just, that's why, like, I haven't really made normal content the last few months. It doesn't feel right to go back to my normal type of content of comedy. Even though I make comedy videos, it just doesn't feel right to me.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Like, but there's so much shit going on, you know? Yeah. Well, I mean, I just hope that you find a way to take care of yourself through this so that you can keep it up rather than, you know, burning out, which is always a... Oh, no, I do. I keep it up. I don't feel burnt out anyway. I just, I need to get it.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I literally cry every day. So this is nothing that I'm ashamed about. Like, real men, know how to cry and be it. It's the fact that I'm in touch of my emotions is the reason I'm so passionate about what I do. Part of what I meant by healthy masculine when I described you. So take it as a lot of it. compliment.

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