Badlands Media - Alphas Make Sandwiches Ep. 62: Baby Goats, Clean Skincare & Farm-Fresh Truth
Episode Date: March 9, 2026In Episode 62 of Alphas Make Sandwiches, Ashe in America, Abbey Blue Eyes, Christy Lupo and Jackie Espada welcome special guest Annie Hunt from Willow Wind Farms for a lively conversation that blends ...farm life, natural products, and a behind-the-scenes look at small scale production. Annie shares stories from the farm, including the excitement of baby goat season and how goat milk becomes the foundation for handcrafted skincare products. The conversation explores the realities of producing clean products, the difference between authentic farm made formulas and mass market versions, and why ingredient transparency matters. From freeze drying goat milk to comparing commercial lotion ingredients with truly natural formulations, the hosts and Annie break down how thoughtful sourcing and careful formulation can elevate everyday products. The episode also highlights the challenges and rewards of building a farm based business while staying true to quality and transparency. It is part farm tour, part skincare deep dive, and entirely the kind of conversation that only happens when Alphas get together.
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of the badlands explain those badlands that's a hell of a name good afternoon everyone and welcome to alphas make sandwiches
we have a great show planned for you today as you can see we have annie from willowen farm we're
going to see so many babies so many babies it's exciting we're on our baby goats we're going to talk
about that as well um it's going to be a blast really blast how's everyone doing great
doing chipper got more snow but surviving got some snow finally it hasn't even like been winter here i don't know
yeah yeah it's been crazy but we got snow um on friday which was kind of nice it's like oh it's ring now so i
we're only we're only behind about eight and a half feet up here what total all winter right yeah
we know we're behind eight and a half feet oh yeah you normally would get it
We're looking forward to some spring rain.
Yay.
It hasn't rained here in like a month.
So it finally just rained here.
We were in like a drought.
The state of Florida hadn't been in forever.
And it rained yesterday finally.
Praise God.
I mean, eight and a half feet of snow is taller than all of us except maybe Christy.
Like that's like that.
All right, everybody's excited about baby goats.
See it happening in the chat?
Yep.
Annie said I can put them in pajamas.
Yeah, no, we can put them in pajamas.
For real?
Oh, yeah.
No way.
They have to get here first, though.
Oh, my goodness.
It's going to be good.
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I mean, Annie, I don't know that you have, but the rest of us have done this process.
I got my report.
And it was actually just looking at mine.
Yeah.
I would love to do it.
The whole thing is so seamless.
It was very easy.
As we talked about last week, it was 10 minutes to fill out the form.
I will also say that every single one of my.
identity point so you put in like your emails and your phone numbers and all of the ones that you have had
every single one was breached oh god except proton mail yes a male had zero exposure and that may be
because i use proto mail for everything so i have so much junk in my email on a regular basis oh my
yeah don't we all i have a yeah specific email that i give to people that i'd never look at
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Yeah, and that's kind of the behavioral workaround, right?
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Literally everything.
Even my old corporate email address is that you would think would have like the best
protection on them.
We're all exposed.
Oh gosh.
That's crazy.
Yeah, I did notice here too.
It does have like phone leak detection.
So that was, I was very happy about that.
You get your scamming calls all the time.
like that. So yeah, this is great. I love it. And mine came back pretty well. Thank goodness.
Yeah. It's tough. Annie, we have a question for you. Somebody wants soap. Sheila wants soap.
Everybody wants soap. I'm getting ready. I'm sort of altering my process a little bit so that I can do it without so much labor attached to it. But it involves freeze drying the goat milk.
oddly enough.
But yeah, I have to make some this weekend because my son's, I mean, I have to make some this week because my son's birthday is coming up on Friday.
Nice.
That's okay.
That's always, yeah, he gets 40 bars of soap this year because he's turning 40.
Isn't it?
Oh, you serious.
Yeah.
I love that.
I give him a year's worth at a time, but he gets how many years that he is.
So I have a 40-year-old son as of Friday, which is just bizarre.
Congratulations.
You are doing well.
That's amazing.
Sheila says your soap is wonderful.
That is true.
It is.
It moisturizes as it cleans.
And a lot of soaps say that, but they don't actually do it.
Hers does.
It's moisture.
It's good for your skin.
Yeah.
You know, when you use a bar soap, typically, you put it on.
You're like, oh, this is soapy.
It's great.
Wonderful.
And you rinse it off and, like, you run your hand down your skin and you're like,
eh, eh, eh.
No, no terrible.
Yes.
You know, it has that, like, detergents.
Those are detergents.
Yeah, and I was actually, Ash, I was looking into shampoo the other day.
Yeah.
So many good things coming.
And we're going to, it's going to be great.
We're going to have a shearing party.
It's so good coming.
I had to balance all the activities, you know, so we're almost in a balance now.
Yeah.
Balance is key.
Which you guys need to know about the sharing party.
We'll talk about that when we get there.
Annie, you're.
volume seems really low on your mic.
So I don't know.
If you look in the settings.
Hold on, this is my, hold on, let me just.
Okay, look in my, oh God, now you're asking me to do this.
This is on my map.
Go in the settings, it just is in the premier, down at the bottom, there's a little cog.
Yeah, it's a little, uh, yeah, okay.
And then if you go to audio.
Hold on, let me, don't get ahead of me.
Don't get your papers in a bundle.
Hold yours, people.
Hold your baby goats.
I can't even find audio and it's in alphabetical order for crying out of that.
Okay, here goes sound.
How's that?
Oh, no, you're in your computer settings.
I'm talking about stream art settings.
Oh, shoot, dude.
Although, you could, yeah, try the sound.
you might be able to put that up a little bit
but maybe that won't be for her mic though now I think about it
it's at the highest point
you should be able to edit her mic I can
you can't well then do it
I don't know if it'll work I'm going to try
no it says echo cancellation
reduce my phone noise
oh there we go hang on
yes if you can do it it's not letting me pull the bar
I take the auto okay Annie talk
wait I'm moving it
go ahead
it is here guys i swear to god you're like dragging the bar back
the audio problem solving real time problems almost on here's it at 200 there we go yep yeah leave it
there yeah just put it up at 200 perfect that's better okay real time troubleshooting all right let's
um so it's another week which means it's another camera roll uh challenge that i failed
Hey.
It's so much of fault, though.
We didn't have any sunsets.
It's all gloomy and do me here.
Yeah, it's overcast for me too.
But I was like, I'm just going to do it anyways, which is really fine.
So Abby took an actual photo.
There's just no sunset in it.
I did the opposite.
I used a sunset photo from Annie's farm in October.
You're not the only one who sent in previous sunset photos.
So you're good.
You're in good company.
And I'm just a crazy person that sent 12.
Yes.
So the last week's challenge was to take a cool sunset picture.
And there were some rules, but not really any rules.
If you wanted to do the modeling, you could.
I did with and without the modeling.
So this is the video from last week.
Here we go.
Want to take a cool picture of the sunset?
Don't do it like this.
Do it like this.
Yeah, bro.
First thing.
go over to 2x zoom. It helps you get closer to the sunset. Then you're going to take your
camera and go out into the street. Please use your due diligence. Don't go to a busy area. Don't want to
hear anyone getting hit by cars. Next thing you're going to want to do is set a timer for 10 seconds.
Make sure you have your scenes set up. Take a picture. Then you're going to run out into your
frame for your pose. Just walk away from the camera. It's going to make it nice and dramatic. And then
just wait for the timer to go off. You just went from this to this.
I love how that guy talks and then he comes into the frame and I'm like, that's exactly what I thought you were going to find it.
That was good.
He made it so easy.
He's like, you're just going to set it down here and walk away.
And the hardest part is finding the place.
It's that it?
Yeah.
I was like putting in the bushes.
It was falling in the snow.
I'm like, I'm going to ruin my phone for this challenge.
Okay.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Oh, no, you're good.
You're good.
So here are the photos from this week.
So this is Abby's, she got the street part of it.
And I appreciate that.
In the foreground.
She did the foreground really well too.
Oh, yeah, the other previous challenge.
I did a little combo going on.
Thank you.
Do I get some perks for that?
Cookies?
You win.
Do I win?
Do you win the challenge?
500 points, Abby.
Well done.
We even saw a little sparky
I love them
I love this like brick in the front thing
Actually that's sitting on the back of the truck
With the tailgate down and there's wood sitting across it
That had snow on it like
Lean it against the back there
So it worked yeah I was like being silly too
I'm like let's try to look cool here
Is that you doing your line dance out
I sent you the cool ones right
Because there was a lot of not cool ones
You did send the cool ones.
That's funny.
And then Christy, she had, this one literally looks like it could be on a calendar.
I know.
That's everything.
My mom's dog.
Isn't it Stella?
Yeah, well balanced.
It's like the boat and the dog, sunset.
Like the way the lights reflecting off her little snout.
Yeah.
So highlight.
Love.
So this was my walking attempt.
I will say that I cheated a little bit.
I brought this out with me and put my phone on it.
See?
I thought you have this down.
And actually this one has tracking on it.
So I'll bring it to Nashville.
So like you turn it on and it'll like go with us.
It'll track you because it's like a little motion detector on the front.
So it'll track us and move with us.
So I'll bring it.
Are you like James Bond or something?
Where do you get all your like gadgets?
Specter gadget.
That one I got on the TikTok shop.
Oh yeah, TikTok shop is the one.
I got the TikTok shop.
That one was the TikTok shop, but everything else has really been Amazon, which I know.
Awesome.
I know we get it, but.
Dude, I Amazon it.
I Amazon it.
The most convenient thing ever.
It is.
So this is one sunset, and then we got lucky and got a glimpse of another sunset because it was rainy, basically all weekend.
The blue cloud.
the blue love that and the light leak right yes i love that that's very pretty and then we've got
annie's backyard yeah that looks familiar are you kidding me there's a beautiful is a bit so there's
like a bunch of 14ers in that shot um 14 000 foot but it's a crazy place you guys it's absolutely
beautiful but it's a complete and total fail of the actual photo challenge in that picture is from october
That's so gorgeous, though.
I'm like, where are the sunsets in my camera?
Correct.
But again, not my fault.
We didn't have sunsets here.
It's all gloomy and beauty.
It's all right.
And then Kay, she's Kay O'Kelly in the chat, sent a few over.
She was driving.
I don't think she was the one that was actually driving,
but she was driving home from California to Nevada.
And love it.
This was her attempt at some sunset photos.
It's so cool.
Get those.
Cool cloud.
So that and then EC, our first mail submission.
Yay.
Nice.
Oh, good job.
So mail submission, he said that these were from when he was, I think this is Wyoming.
I actually have a short that he uploaded that I'll share here in a second of the sunset on the way home from Deadwood, Gart last year.
Yes.
Thanks, EC.
So he said, so this is the progression.
So this is where it started.
and then this is the progression.
Oh, look at that.
Beautiful orange.
And then it's how clouds are good in that one.
That's a great like transition.
Yeah.
And like I said, I do have, I have a video too.
So let me pull that in real quick that he also shared,
which I thought was really cool from he has like the where it was and everything.
So here's this.
Oh, cool.
It's a timeline.
I like that.
It's cool.
Frogger.
Yeah.
Yeah, right?
What's the noise?
I think it's the cars.
Woo!
Oh, there it goes.
It is so pretty.
Turn that off.
If you turn it off, we're going to have to,
Christy and I will make the sound effects.
Yes.
he said it's at 32 times speed
let's go
this is my favorite this is my favorite color
cam says he runs at 32 times speed
I think it's just if you see how fast that was
it was like it was right there and then boom
now we're in the darkness
that was so cool
that's very cool
thank you for being our first
male submitter that's
awesome that's awesome
of. He also gets...
Oh, Cam
says he runs his mouth at 32 times speed.
I think that's better.
That seems fair.
That tracks.
It seems like we all have experience
with that. None more than Jackie.
You're an angel, Jackie.
I'm an saint.
So we had a few more. We had Salish.
She's like, this was not...
She's like, this was not the submission
requirements, but I said it's beautiful,
nonetheless. She's had no models or anything to take the street photo.
It's Jackie. There you go. Oh, wrong one. Sorry. That one.
Where do we send these? Oh, where do we send these picks? So on X, you can send them or you can
send them on in the telegram chat. If you're on the Gart chat, tag me in it. And I can,
I'll pull it from there. But I also have my own telegram channel where people have been sending
submissions to. You can just search my name, Jackie is spot on. You should find the channel.
So Jackie is where you send.
that we send them to Jackie.
And the photo challenge of the week is always pinned on her social media.
So you can find it even if you miss the show.
Yeah.
So this was a salvish.
I know that I saw her earlier in the chat today.
So that,
thank you for sending this in.
And then we had two last two submissions.
This is from Liz L.
She was also in the chat.
And I have some more from X.
So like two or three more.
photos.
I love how it's untouched.
It's like walk with me on the beach.
Yeah.
That one, go back to that other one.
Yeah, that one is really good.
I love the waves.
The way the water is in that picture, it's beautiful.
The beach ones are killing me, man.
I know, right?
You've got to get out of here and get to the beach.
Come to me.
And then we did have, we had our first international submission.
No way.
Yes way.
This one was really cool.
This is coming.
Or in our photos.
Let's go.
From the west coast of Norway.
Let's go Norway.
It is bigger.
Beautiful.
A little tiny little moon up there.
This is fun.
You're getting everybody to participate, Jackie.
This is great.
And then we've got some more sunset on the beach photos.
Oh.
Is that what you're doing?
nailed it. They nailed it.
Really good one.
I think that that was their
tripod. Oh.
Does I say that's what your margarita sees
when you walk away from it?
I thought it was too as a drink.
You know,
fashion. One more.
They're really getting me now, man.
I want to go to the beach so bad.
I know. Warm beach. I have a beach,
but it's covered in snow.
Thank you.
DeW Liberty.
What?
I don't think we have a beach guard this year, do we?
We could have one in November, but we haven't been decided yet.
Deadwood, Vegas, and then the one that has not been named yet.
So that one might, I hope it's a beach.
It needs to be a beach.
C.S.
C.S.
C. S. A key.
Yeah.
C.S. Q be dope.
I still, too.
Very, very, very fun.
Mm-hmm.
those were all of the submissions except for all of christies if we wanted to go through all the christries we can but it's
it's up to you guys wait christies do we do any of them today because i was like i wanted her like i was like oh i probably took a good one
and so i searched my phone for sunset and it came up with like 70 i love this one and this one and i'm like i'm sorry
guys this is the last one i'm sending i promise spammed them this morning do you have hers i mean i can
Some of them are,
the one of you kissing Brian on the
cheap with your orange hair is years old
because your hair hasn't been that color in years.
Nope.
Oh, yes, it is that one.
Okay, okay. Are you pulling one up?
Yes.
Okay, all right, yeah, just...
There we go.
One. Maybe.
Perfect. I'll pull that.
Maybe. I don't know if that's going to work.
Nope.
Yeah, I pulled it out.
If you click it, you can scroll through.
So open it, open one of the pictures.
Well, I did.
And it's not pulling up.
Here, I'll do it.
I'll do it on mine then.
Yeah.
Because mine's not the web version.
Oh, yeah.
I always put it on the web one.
Yeah.
Because Brian says Cesta Key is only an hour or so from us.
Fake news.
That's across.
That is fake news.
It is probably about three hours.
Maybe a little more, depending on how much route you take.
Or how fast he drives.
Fake news.
Unbelievable, Brian.
That's too big.
All right.
So disinformation is what that was so pretty.
Okay.
Then I have to press the arrow button, not the zero button.
That was while we were fishing.
Brian actually, the funny part about this is that hat is Brian's.
And he currently had a fish hook stuck in his shin when I took a picture.
What the thing?
No, I had to.
Yeah.
And he pulled it out himself.
He complained a lot about it, but he pulled it out himself.
but yeah
stuck on a lily pad
and he yanked it
and it just went straight
into the front of his shin.
sick.
This one is
and you're like
hold on babe
there's a really good picture
of the sunset
I want to get
let me get the sunset
and then I'll take you the awesome
are you dying?
No we actually didn't go to hot
we didn't do anything
we just pulled it out
and continued on our day.
That's really cute.
This is oh so this was in
Wisconsin
and it's up in the all the way up to the furthest point that you can drive um we went there for a packers game
this is brian's mom who brian's mom barbara it's her birthday today so yeah happy birthday
this was there they had a house on a lake and this i think this is a sunrise but it's so pretty
like it looks fake like it looks like it looks like a pet can't even oh my goodness so gorgeous oh look at
colors.
That was at Disney World.
I have some Disney sunsets too.
Oh, yeah.
Those are the best.
That's at the plant nurse where I work at.
Tree farm.
Oh, whoa.
This is Michigan.
Whoa.
Oh, no, Pennsylvania.
This is Pennsylvania.
This is Lake Erie, actually.
It's not even an ocean.
How does a lake get waves like that?
Are you serious?
That's a lake.
What?
That's a lake.
Oh, wow.
That's a huge lake.
Yeah. It's not even the biggest one. Have you seen videos from Lake Superior? Oh my God. It's like a, there's like 10 foot waves when they're stored.
Wow. Oh, geez. I got excited. That has someone in the foreground that counts, right?
Right. Yeah.
Also in the foreground.
Oh, cool.
These were all the same place. This was actually at Cesta Key. All three of these are Cesta Key. So if anybody, you know, wants to help.
If we need a promo photo.
It's a sign.
We got one.
We should all go there.
Yay.
I think that's the last one.
I think.
Oh, no.
We got the kissing one.
This is like my,
Brian in my favorite picture ever.
That's the color Christy's hair was when I met her in 2022.
Yep.
I love it because the sky.
Probably.
You see, the clouds are literally your hair color.
I know.
That is like cool.
What do you really look at that?
Awesome.
So I think that's, that's all we got.
for that so let me that's how she wrote all right so we're ready for next week's challenge yeah
geography tip instead of taking a photo of just the subject take a step back and use the window as a
frame push the fucking pack off of the porch or break up down shoot into the reflections use the
other window very dirty song that was that was j-d coming to you straight from Atlanta
all right
framing
using a window to frame
and of course
everybody
oh new case wants you to check
X I checked X and I didn't see anything
I went to his page and I don't see any media
so I tried
He tagged you didn't he
He tagged you pick your notifications
Brian's sciming with sunset pictures now
Oh the only one that I see is Denise Anns
That tagged me
I don't have any other mentions
All right
New
Yeah
Maybe you tag the wrong
wrong Jackie Espada. Regardless,
next week's photo challenge will be
pinned on Jackie's
social media, so everybody makes sure
that you check that out. And
New Kay's Real, he says.
That's the one I checked. If we find it, we'll
pull it in, but she doesn't see it as of now.
And that is your
camera roll. I like
that song? Yes.
All right. Well, now that
we've engaged with the
visual arts, let's stimulate
the brain.
Let me share with you guys what today's idiom is.
Oh, I love this.
I can't want to pull out.
Sinker swim.
I actually found a lot of good ones today.
They're animated.
Yes.
It's a setting called wiggle.
Anyway, sink or swim.
We all kind of know what this means.
but we're going to define it anyways.
Sinker swim describes a situation where someone is given little to no help and must rely on their own efforts.
That pineapple is a crazy wiggler.
Sinker swim describes a situation where someone is given little to no help and must rely on their own effort to succeed.
There is no middle ground in a sink or swim situation because the outcome is either clear success or clear failure.
For example, when a new employee receives almost no training and must figure out the job alone, they might say it is a single.
sink or swim situation.
So the origin comes from the literal image of a person thrown into deep water who must either learn to swim or drown.
Historically, the phrase has been linked to harsh tests of survival and even to old superstitious trials where people were thrown into water to see whether they would sink or float.
Over time, this literal life or death image turned into a metaphor for any severe test where someone's success depends.
entirely on their own actions.
And of course, I had to find out what the superstitions were.
We don't care what it actually the origin is.
We want to know the...
Exactly.
So this is my favorite.
Wait, I figure out how to go next.
Okay.
In less enlightened times, judging a person has nothing to do with the scientific method.
Instead, the water ordeal was used, a medieval practice of judging a person's innocence by casting.
and yes, Ash, I have the video, don't worry.
Judging a person's innocence by casting them into a later,
make the whole thing even weirder.
If the victims sunk, they were innocent,
but if they floated, they were guilty.
The idea being that the water wouldn't accept anyone
who had rejected the water of baptism through their absence,
which raises the question of which is better
to float and be killed by an angry mob or to drown.
Okay.
Oh, there's a very, um,
A very important documentary.
Pay the documentary.
Yes, that can help us learn this.
Yes.
I'm a witch.
I know she is a witch.
She looks like what?
Bring her forward.
Not a witch, I'm not a witch.
But you are dressed as one.
They dress me up like this.
And this isn't my nose.
It's a false one.
Will?
Well, we did do the nose.
The nose?
And the hat.
But she is a witch.
Are you disrupt like this?
No! No! No!
Yes! Yes! Yes! A bit! A bit! A bit!
She has got a wot!
What makes you think she is a witch?
Well, she turned me into a newt!
A newt.
Not better.
Not better.
Burner, already!
There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Are there? What are they tell her?
They hurt!
Tell me. What do you do with witch?
And what do burn apart from witches?
Poor witches!
Wood!
So, why do witches burn?
Because I made of wood.
Good!
So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
Built a bridge out of her!
Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
Oh yeah.
Does wood sink in water?
No!
It floats! It floats! Throw her into the ball!
What also flutes in water?
Bread. Apples!
Very small rocks.
Cider! A great gravy!
Cherries!
Mud! A truches!
Chirche! Lead! A duck!
Exactly!
So logically,
if she weighs the same as a duck,
she's made of water.
And therefore, a witch.
A witch!
Howie?
How much?
He just says scales sitting there.
Who are you?
Who are so wise in the ways of science?
I'm Arthur, King of the Writz.
My liege.
Maimapradis, when he goes out into the field and he's like, I'm Arthur, King of the Britons.
I didn't vote for you.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm Arthur.
Such a good movie.
I'm being the best.
Yeah.
I know.
I read that.
When I read the first sentence about people floating or sick, I'm like, oh, my God, I have to do this one.
Because I do the Monty Python, which I did think that the scale was over water.
I guess I was a little mistaken on that.
It's the same concept, though, because they mentioned it, the floating.
And I think that was a direct reference.
The logic they had at that time, like,
dear God, I can't believe it.
Like, they call it the Dark Ages for me.
Well, you start thinking about, like, what things do we say now that in 50,
130 years or whatever, are we going to be like, why were we so stupid?
Right.
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think there's a few things, you know, like modern energy applications
that are coming back, coming out now, I think that in 100 years, people are going to be like,
why did it take them so long?
Get there.
Reminds me of in Toy Story
when Buzz Lightyear comes in and he's like,
do you guys figured out nuclear fusion
or are you still using fossil fuels?
I love that part.
I love that.
I love that source.
Buzz Lightier.
Dude.
I think about that.
It came out when you were kids.
What a crazy reference.
Chris, so it came out with my kids were kids.
Well.
Yikes.
So, Christy, your husband
said in the chat, didn't this originate from
eggs? Like the
sink or swim, I don't think eggs swim
first of all, so no. But
the thing about the eggs, if your
egg is rotten,
I think it sinks, right? No, if it's rotten
it floats. If it's rotten, it floats.
Well, it just, there's more
gas. Except not always true.
Yeah. Well, and then
also the difference between fresh eggs
and the whatever crap you buy
that's the public's brand or the Kroger brand
or whatever. I think there's a
because with like regular chicken eggs like if you far you get your own chicken eggs don't you aren't
you not supposed to refrigerate them i think i don't know you can do you can do either you both
yeah if you do refrigerate them you last for up to a couple of months if don't wash them like
i never wash my eggs because there's a protective film on the exterior of the eggs and you can set
them on the counter for three months and they'll be fine but you know they they float because they
and this is sort of related to some of the things that I am going to talk about later,
but they oxidize in there, create air.
They break down, right?
And then they create air within the egg and then float.
And so that's kind of the principle.
But the truth is not all bad eggs float.
Oh, so you could still have.
Same with the witches.
Same with the witches.
See if they weigh as much as a duck, obviously.
Yes.
All right.
Is that the end?
Yes, that was my whole little thing.
I loved it.
If anybody wants fresh eggs, they're laying about two dozen a week.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
I will take them.
They're half chickens.
I'll bring you some on Friday.
Yes, please.
I'm so jealous.
You live so close to each other.
It's not fair.
I know.
And I get to babysit Buttercup this weekend.
Yay.
Buttercup is very excited.
I had to leave.
And take lots of pictures.
We'll do that on Monday, on next Monday.
show. I'll have the pictures of buttercup.
Yay. Buttercup and
Lilypad.
Sort of playing, sort of Lilypad, being
super annoyed by the baby because she's old.
Buttercup has matured quite
dramatically. Although
she is tuning on something right now,
big surprise. Shocking.
All right.
So our final regular
update is, of course,
this week in American history.
And I'm just doing one story today, and I chose this story.
We're going back to March 3rd, 1873 for this one.
And I chose this story because I sort of feel like we're heading back in this direction as a society.
And we should be really careful about that.
The header here is every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, filthy, or vile article matter, thing, device, or substance.
10 years after America became something else, so 10 years after the Reconstruction Amendments,
Congress passed the Comstock Act, a sweeping federal law prohibiting the mailing of obscene materials.
The act aimed to enforce, you can see this is a, he's drawing a woman here, painting a woman here,
and he's being, this was a light magazine 1888, that fertile imagination is the name of this caricature.
Comstock is shown arresting an artist for depicting a woman almost totally submerged.
Don't you suppose I can imagine what is under the water?
So he's trying right under the water?
What isn't she wearing?
What is she wearing?
Are the ankles covered?
I don't know.
Act aimed to enforce Victorian-era moral standards,
and it is most known for the prohibition of mailing contraceptives and information about abortion.
and the labeling of both as obscene, championed by moral reformer Anthony Comstock.
The statute dramatically expanded federal criminal jurisdiction over the lives of individuals
through regulation of the postal system.
And this is the actual statute, quote,
whoever knowingly uses the mails from the mailing, carriage in the mails,
or delivery of anything declared by this section or this other section to be non-mailable,
or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail according to the direction thereon,
or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to who is dressed or knowingly takes any such thing from the males for the purpose of circulating or disposing thereof or of aiding in the circulation or disposition thereof shall be fined under this title or imprisoned but not more than five years or both for the sort of first such offence and shall be fined under this title or in prison not more than ten years for sending stuff.
in the mail or both, but each such offense thereafter. The term indecent, as used in this section,
includes matter of character tending to incite arson, murder, or assassination. That is statute 1461,
mailing obscene, or crime inciting matters. So, I mean, I think that we're, you know,
we're a period of transformation. And being in a period of transformation, it means that we're going to get something new.
Something new is coming because the old institutions are all corrupted and everybody knows it.
And so we're going to have them rebuild.
If we don't participate in that process, it's going to have.
I agree.
It's way more fun than reading them in my regular voice.
That law, by the way, still on the books.
Interesting.
That is so many words to say something so small.
Like don't said bad stuff in the mail, thanks.
Or you get fine, go to jail, five years, maybe 10 years.
Yeah.
Well, for each offense.
Oh, each offense.
Yeah, so let's say that they mail out, you know, a pamphlet about abortion or something to incite arson, right?
Burn the ships.
Okay, well, that's illegal.
They send it to, you know, their mailing list.
Each incident, each incident, five to ten years, depending on what it is.
And that's crazy when you consider, well, I was just about to take a really crazy detour into the multiplicity arguments used in Tina Peters case.
But Abby and I are going to do that tonight on Culture of Change.
from a local radio guy joining us to talk through this case
and kind of the evolution of media and
political storytelling and all that kind of stuff.
It's going to be fun.
So tune in at 9 p.m. Eastern tonight.
And next week, we will have a proper American history update.
But we got to talk about baby animals.
So that's all you get this week.
All right.
Baby animals.
This is so exciting.
All right.
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All right.
All right, Miss Annie.
Are we doing, are we going with soft as well?
First we are.
Well, we are going to first hear from Badlands's greatest villain.
And then we'll end it over for you.
In a quiet town at where beards grow wild and lips dare to crack without permission.
One woman has suffered.
Hi, I'm Margie, and I'm J. Treyot's mother.
But the world would come to know her by another name.
Madame Margie, the moistureless.
Jay came home with a lip-on.
It's called Soft Disclosure.
With one miraculous application, her power awakened.
Within one day, my lips were healed.
It was miraculous.
But salvation came at a cost.
Four in the shadowed lands known only as
Badlands.
You boys at Badlands are so handsome.
She saw potential.
You're covering up your beautiful faces.
And she made her demand.
Shave them all off.
Or base the consequences.
Beard oil will not save you now.
And you'll look so much better.
This summer, moisturize wisely and guard your beard.
Because Madam Margie, the moistureless, is always watching.
I love that.
I'm telling you.
the greatest villain. She's taken down J.Triot's beard,
ghost's beard, now Josh feeds beard, and
tell you what, my gosh, that's funny. Unbelievable.
We definitely don't want anyone else to shave their beards because we speak for the
beards. Beards are the best. And the beard oil can also be used as a face oil.
And we've had reviews come in that say it is the greatest
anti-aging product that they've ever used.
So, Annie, with that.
No doubt.
No doubt.
It also can use as a hair oil.
Yeah, and it's a sort of offshoot from the Badlands oil blend that's in the lotion.
I'm trying to figure out where I'm going to start here.
I just, I basically wanted to do like a little dive on the soft disclosure products to kind
of identify sort of not just position in the market, but sort of a value proposition in the market.
What are you doing?
Screen saver.
Yeah, the screensaver.
Bouncing on the corner?
No, should I tell you how I came up with the beer?
No.
I'll tell you how I come up with all of these things, actually.
Maybe it'll make me look like a total cuck among us.
Oh, no.
Back when I was in college, I was studying like really trippy physics and math, you know.
So just stuff that didn't have really any application in the material world.
And it was out there.
And at the, and this is a, this is something that I started doing.
And I've done it my whole life.
I've told Ash this a hundred times.
Like, I went to sleep and then I woke up and it was all clear.
Anyway, I think that whole principle about praying before you go to bed is actually kind of a,
a thing. So I'll dive into a bunch of like data, you know, a bunch of, I have a lot of experience
with oils and all that kind of stuff, but I'll get confused about it, you know, because there's a
whole bunch of, you know, you don't know how oils are going to work together and whether there's
synergy there and all of that. And so I had been thinking about the beard oil for, oh my gosh,
I think Cheryl brought it up in the very beginning. Actually, we should do a beard oil. So, you know,
I was like beer oil. I had never even thought of doing a beard oil. But,
Anyway, one night I went to bed and I said to myself, okay, Lord, when I wake up in the morning, I want to have a good understanding of the beard oil.
And when I woke up in the morning, I had a really good understanding of the beard oil.
And I made it that day.
And so that's...
No way.
Yeah.
The greatest dante aging product known to man.
Yeah, but it's an offshoot of the Badlands Oil Blend, which was another situation like that.
You know, we wanted to augment the goat milk lotion with something really therapeutic.
effective and, you know, just something that elevated that lotion amongst over and above the market.
And I guess maybe that's a good place to start, actually, in terms of soft disclosure.
We've had discussions about soft disclosure before, but nothing really, you know, we haven't talked about the oils.
We haven't talked about the why.
We haven't talked about kind of what it competes against and why it makes.
Why we're different in Buttercup is heavy into a bunch of paper behind me.
you want something else?
How about this?
You do that right now.
Anyway.
So often, I come from market development.
Like I did a lot of strategic development in the natural organic food trade,
supplement trade, body care trade.
And so my normal course is to just go out into the market and look at what's out there,
what's moving, what people are buying, and with sort of a backrest to that principle
of like I'm I don't really want to participate in something just for the sake of participating in something.
I want to make sure that if I'm going to spend time and energy on something that actually
adds some value somewhere, you know, in other words, elevates something that's already existing.
And so anyway, the whole soft disclosure thing was kind of a trippy thing for me because
some of it existed already, but some of it, it was very developmental.
But the whole principle was to add therapeutic value, have it accessible, but also have it be something that didn't do harm.
And I say that specifically because most of the stuff that we put on our skin and in our bodies actually does do harm.
And I mentioned the egg a second ago, when things start to break down, they oxidize.
And I'm sure everybody's heard of oxidative stress, right?
So we are surrounded by oxidative stress and we're surrounded by a whole bunch of materials, products, marketing that has sort of guided us down that path.
I kind of think of it as this kind of subset of the narrative that there's a bunch of people creating items for us, selling them to us as if they're of benefit.
And in reality, they don't really add any therapeutic benefit, right?
So we can buy a...
a continued product that you continually have to use because it's damaging your skin and you think
it's going to heal you and it makes it worse right i don't like to think that there's a bunch of
demon mongers out there just trying to lead us down some path where we all you know well there are
annie yeah well the thing is is you start to wonder you start to wonder after a while so um
yeah and so that whole principle of you know a do no harm but also kind of add value
and the function component of it.
Like oils, there's so many incredible oils in nature,
but now we have this new controversy around kind of seed oils.
Many of the oils that we use in the products are, in fact, seed oils.
So I wanted to kind of clarify that.
In the natural organic sort of space,
we were talking about seed oils 40 years ago.
And the reason was is because I think many of them are byproducts to other processes.
right and so somebody jumped in and said oh we should use these you know in the marketplace so you know
sort of like a byproduct of some other process soybean oil you know is soybean oil i think you have it's like
18 bushels of soybean oil to have eight ounces of i mean 18 bushels of soybeans to eat to get
eight ounces of soybean oil and the whole wow behind canola and corn oil is
is it's opportunistic, minimalistically, right?
It's just opportunistic market opportunity.
And then you get the lobbies behind there,
and they're pushing all of these things.
Anyway, the seed oil controversy has actually kind of gotten to be a big deal,
but most of it has to do with the processing of those oils.
And I said last time we were talking, like, heat is the killer of all things, right?
So in seed oils, you have this polyunsaturated fat.
It's an omega-6 bond, which happens to be a weak bond under pressure, right?
So when you're using, you know, sunflower, canola, safflower oil, and all of those oils,
to process those oils into a refined oil that we use for cooking and sort of processing,
we break those bonds, right?
And when we break those bonds, we release free radicals.
that's oxidative stress.
And so there's recent information that shows that, you know, the rise of seed oils being used in sort of processed foods and all of that is directly linked to the increase in obesity in the United States.
Like almost a direct causative link because you're essentially consuming poison, not to overstate it, but you're consuming poison.
And so when you look at the same seed oils being added to things that we put on our skin,
you run the same risk, which is why where you get the seed oils becomes more important in some ways
than the seed oil itself, if that makes any sense, right?
So all of our seed oils are, you know, they're either virgin or unrefined, which is critical.
But the seed oil thing is kind of big and sort of classic cosmetics, but it's huge in food.
It's huge in food.
And Ash and I were talking earlier, and this is sort of my favorite thing to say about, you know, we don't have control over a lot, unfortunately.
I wish we did.
But we do control our choices.
And so sometimes it's a million little choices that are going to make the biggest difference as opposed to the one big leap, right?
So when I was thinking about doing this today, I was thinking about, you know, it's not a judgey thing.
We're bombarded by this stuff all the time.
have a fascination with Fritos. I've shared that before. And that is just not the best thing for you.
It just really is not. I don't have a weight problem, but it's not doing anything for the inside of
my body. Wait, what about what about Doritos? Doritos I don't like, but you know what? Doritos has
is the flavors. And that sort of the second component, one that I'm feeling sort of personal
pressure around right now, which is sort of that flavor scent thing, right? So seed oils is like an
area of concern both internally but also externally, you know, when you're looking at sort of
the, how lotions and applications are pulled together in the commercial industry. It's just a
completely different supply chain. It's a completely different resource. And people should
be aware of it, right? It doesn't mean that every seed oil is bad, but you should know where
your seed oils are coming from, right? What about Cheetos? Yeah, and again,
There's not going to be any good answer to these.
Here's why big about fragrance and scent, and it's so big in the market.
You know, we have designer fragrance laundry detergent.
We have dryer sheets.
You know, if you look at all of the quote-unquote natural deodorants out there,
they're all loaded with fragrance.
And the fragrance is phenomenal.
People rave about, oh, my God, I can't believe this smells so good.
the challenge is is that fragrance is like it is so bad so I was doing some making some
newborn body care for a friend of mine about 12 years ago and I did this deep dive on
fragrance and ingredients and what a newborn being sort of you know obviously the infantile
you know part of us but really kind of the the clean physiology of a brand newborn
they can only metabolize, right?
This is simply metabolize three cents in dilution.
So when you're born, your liver can only metabolize lavender, camomile, and vanilla.
That's it?
Really?
How did you figure this?
Camamil?
Yeah, camamil, lavender, and vanilla.
So I'd like you to consider the scents available.
in soft disclosure, right?
So this sort of meets this sort of principle of like,
if you consider yourself walking out in the world,
and there's a reason that I live out in the middle of nowhere
even though I don't have a Home Depot,
which I really like that once in a while,
is just this notion of like the layering of oxidative stress, right,
over and over and over again.
So if you picture a newborn baby and the kinds of things that we apply to a newborn baby that have nothing to do with lavender, camomile, or vanilla, you're basically saying to a baby's liver, now I'm going to give you something.
I'm going to have you inhale, smell, you know, sort of taste some things that you are incapable of metabolizing.
You're basically injecting oxidative stress into a newborn baby.
So that's sort of like the basic baseline, but then if you multiply that by all of the other things that we come in contact with, I'll go back to the beginning and say, why wouldn't we make the simple choices around the things that we have choices around, right, in order to minimize the oxidative stress that's around us all the time? It's not a big secret that RFK is dealing with, you know, Maha and that.
the inverse of the food pyramid, like all of those things are just inverted and crazy.
And I think I've said this every other time that I've been on here, that, you know,
it's good to just think simple and it's challenging because the market is so loud, right?
Media is so loud and the market is so loud.
I was in Natural Foods when they introduced, when they decided that soy was like the
solution to every person's protein need, right?
Especially babies.
The soy formula push was insane.
Every time I took one of the boys to the doctor, they were handing us samples of soy
formula as just a standard to everyone that came into their office.
And they were making those.
And so soy became this gigantic thing, right?
And then all the men became pussies.
I mean, let's just be honest about it.
Well, there's such a thing is overdoing it, right?
I mean, it wears a lot.
I mean, soy went from being sort of here and there in food items,
just literally everywhere in food items.
And it wasn't soy.
It was soy isolate, right?
It was like removing pieces and parts of the original soybean and putting in all of these different products.
And then all of a sudden, it's like this big alarm goes off.
Oh, my God, soy is terrible.
So it is terrible.
The truth is soy isn't terrible, but soy isolate in everything is not good.
You know, not good.
Body can't metabolize it properly, you know.
And then we had the whole...
Are you saying that it's not responsible for the testosterone crisis?
No, I don't.
I mean, in its original form, no, in its aberrated form across all of the platforms, could be.
I'm not a chemist, but I just know that the original form of so.
like tofu is good for you you know regular from here in exaic soybean is good for you
Annie I have looked into this little bit and one thing I found was the most genetically modified
product out there that farmers would put out was the soy soybean and I checked it out it says over
94% of soybeans planted in the United States are genetically modified yeah so right away your
body's rejecting it because it's not a natural
creation.
It's been messed with it.
It's also just the use of glyphos.
You know, most of those GMO foods.
Yeah, there's that too.
So I could agree with you that the original soy
could be good.
However, Ash, I know exactly what you're talking about.
That's why we call them soy boys.
Is there something that got in the food that literally
caused everybody to become defanged and declawed.
But if you got good organic tofu,
that is a good item.
That's good for you.
Allegedly.
I don't know about.
about that. Am I allowed to tell me? She said good for you, Jackie. Not good. It doesn't taste
good. I'll take your word for Annie. Yeah. But anyway, so just the principle around soft disclosure
was always from where I was sitting was sort of coming from my philosophy. Nobody said, hey, Annie,
we want you to design a brand in your philosophy, but that sort of is what happened. And
And so, you know, I feel very challenged by the scent thing now because it's so big in the market, but we're sort of limited there at the same time.
So we continue to sort of do the best we can there.
And there's some really cool men's deodorant that's out for a review right now.
Pause, pause on that because I was going to bring up in the chat, ZBM was saying, I love peppermint.
Peppermint's one of my favorite scents.
I love peppermint lotion during Christmas and pine scents.
A good jumping off point for you.
Yeah, no, and there's peppermint, and I have the, I mean, I could show you pictures.
I almost sent them to you this morning, Ash.
But my whole, you know, my whole sort of lab setup in there, I have gone into the, the craziest corners of the universe to explore all kinds of different essential oils.
And my preference being kind of the infusion thing, because I just think it's more whole.
It's less environmental pressure.
It's also less human pressure than actual essential oils.
My recent favorite is blue tansy.
Oh, I love that.
Oh, geez.
Oh, geez.
I added just all over myself the other night.
The problem with it is that real blue tanzy is really, really blue.
And so I'm a little nervous.
I'm going to test it in a deodorant and see if it.
We want one so bad because so blue tansy, for those that don't know,
was like a flower.
It's beautiful.
It's so.
It's just awesome.
It's awesome.
And it's like it's blue,
like it'll stain blue kind of thing.
And it's beautiful.
Yeah.
So we want a bunch of blue underarms running around.
So that is to see if whether it would actually stain.
But it's very potent.
And a whole bunch of florals,
which I hadn't worked with before because floral essential oils actually accelerate soap.
I just think of,
Isn't it beautiful?
I know.
I was looking to that too.
Beautiful.
Beautiful in every way.
I mean, everybody got on board
with methylene blue and their mouths turn in blue.
So why, what's what, I mean,
under the arms,
I'm trying to stay close to the efficacy thing.
Well, I'm looking at something that's interesting
on one of these pictures. It says
that it's also called Moroccan
Camamil.
So I wonder.
That's part of why.
it's good for you because you like you said about babies like being able to yeah I was just
an idea I love to do like blue tansy and like face oil I heard it's really healing for their skin that way
too totally no and if we did a talo bomb with blue tansy it would be dynamite be dynamite so we're
looking at a couple of talobons I wanted to read you though just I want you to understand like
where the market is with a goat milk lotion versus where we are with a goat milk lotion versus where we are
with a goat milk lotion.
So I'm just going to read you.
I went out and I looked at, because things are cheap out there, right?
You can get eight ounces of goat milk lotion for 20 bucks.
And, you know, there's two major brands.
I looked at all the data yesterday.
One of them actually does private label for a big box store that we're all relatively
fond of, not a bad one, but a good one.
But these are the ingredients.
This is how the ingredients lead into the product, okay?
I can't even pronounce how this stuff, so bear with me.
If you can, we don't have a chance.
Octal palmitate.
And what I want you to know is these first one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight are identical to the first eight that are in the other goat milk lotion I looked at, which is apparently has a farm origin, right?
Really?
Yep, groovy packaging.
The whole thing looks very down to earth and all that stuff, okay?
Okay, also, first of all, water.
I mean, lotion generally, water is about 60 to 70% of the formula, right?
And then the rest of the stuff is taking up the other 30%.
Octal, and all ingredients are listed.
I'm sure everybody knows this, but I'll say it just for the heck of it.
All ingredients by law have to be listed by volume as you're looking at them on the ingredient
label.
So the first thing listed, you have the most of that.
The second thing listed, you have the second most of that, right?
I learned that from my mom actually in cereals.
We were not allowed to get a cereal if sugar was in the first three ingredients.
Yes.
Yes, smartly.
That's smart.
She's smart.
Okay, so water, octal palmitate, seedal alcohol, which I'm sure you've seen that one,
hydrogenated polysobutine.
That's all one ingredient?
Yep.
Parfume, which is basically a fric oil and a fructant.
Fragment soil, the way those are put together is usually propylene glycol as the carrier.
They don't need to isolate the specifics in here, but you have heavy, heavy carriers to migrate
the scent, right?
And propylene glycol, even though they say it's not a cancerous item, this was not identified
in natural foods like 40 years ago.
Propylene glycol is just a no-no.
And propylene glycol is the primary carrier for like the flavor profile in the food.
and Doritos and Cheetos just to address that before, right?
Dang it.
Yeah, and all the rest of it are just synthetic, like,
they're either isolate or they're synthetically, molecularly put together.
When I was in college, we did a whole thing on esters and ester creation,
and it's really just a chemical cocktail that has nothing to do with anything
except how it applies to your certain senses, right?
So propylene glycol is a carrier of flavor, so which is why you get a lot in food items.
Before you move on, Christy's husband wants to know if you have an opinion about Tom's toothpaste with no fluoride.
My response to him was that the desert essence arnica toothpaste is everyone should have because the arnica is really good for your gums.
And it's pretty game-changing.
The challenge with Tom's is they were bought, and so I'm going to look at it really quick.
I won't take up a bunch of time here.
I'll do that, and then I'll go on here.
Finish it with this list.
Okay, her hydrogenated polyisobutine, perfume, which is basically fragrant.
So that's water and three things that we can barely recognize.
And then God bless their little hearts, goat milk, steereth 20,
cyclomethocone
styreth two
poly
you're talking to a science person here
and I can't even say it
poly
polyacylacrylamide
so the majority
that's like the whole ingredient list
goat milk is in there
right is number five
the rest of these
are emulsifiers
meaning they help
join water and oil
right but they're thickening agents and their purpose primary purpose is to feel soft on the skin no therapeutic
value no moisture barrier value no therapeutic value of any kind really it is to feel you know when you look
up the descriptions of each of these things I would challenge anybody to pull a lotion off the shelf
that you think that you like and put these things through the you know what
your search engine is and it's astonishing actually and our lotion is completely
different than that I'm gonna tell you what our lotion is can we actually have two
things inverted here which we'll have to fix during the next label one
organic aloe vera juice is the first thing the second thing the second thing in
combination is the Badlands oil blend which consists of organic virgin
African-Africot oil, organic gargon oil, squalane, black currant oil, rosyp oil, virgin organic black
human seed oil, evening primrose oil, then sunflower oil, high oleic, not high linelayic.
High-Linaleic has, it's a softer bond, right?
So oxidizes more quickly, right?
Organic grade A, Madagascar vanilla beans, emulsifying wax, similar to the ingredients in
here only it's organic number it's its ingredient number like 12 I think
Chris is your motion on your shoulder yes I love that
kosher vegetable glycer which is a humectin that's natural phenoxy ethanol that's
also an emulsifier goat lack honey vitamin E and then lemongrass essential oil so
that's our and what I want to say about that is that when you get a lotion that
with long names, you're applying that stuff over and over again, right? There's nothing really
truly therapeutic about it. It is designed to make your skin feel soft. That's it, right? When you're
using something like soft disclosure, that is a lotion that is actually designed to be therapeutic,
moisturizing, reinforced the moisture barrier, and it should not have to be applied over and over and
over again. I can also tell you in the goat milk lotion in the market, those first ingredients are
cheap. They're not expensive, right? The ingredients that I just read you for soft disclosure are like
eight to ten times more expensive than those ingredients, right? So I can go through all the
different ways. Because of the quality, because of the supply chain for them. It's just the therapeutic
nature of them. They're not as profuse. They're much more beneficial.
Like argon oil, hajoba oil, apricot kernel oil. Those are, hooba is like the ultimate
balancer, you know, it, it mimics the skin sebum. So it balances the, it balances the oils in
your skin while it moisturizes your skin, right? So you can use hajoba across the full spectrum of
like sort of skin care. Argon oil is considered one of the powerhouse oils in terms of it's
super hydrating, but it's also wildly anti-inflammatory. And almost every oil in the Badlands
oil blend is primarily anti-inflammatory, anti- and hydrating. So the anti-inflammatory component
of the lotion is meant to address the oxidative stress created by
everything else, right? Because that's what creates damage in the skin. So you won't find a lot of,
you're not going to find, outside of the lotion, you're not going to find any sort of,
I don't know what the term would be for them, kind of street level oils. We just don't,
we just don't use them. We don't do that here. No, we don't do that. And things like black seed oil and black
current oil. Those are really targeted therapeutic oils for specific benefits. And then when we get
to the beard oil, we took a couple oils out and we put a couple of oils in. We stuck the cardamine in there,
which is, you know, that's in the scented one. But that is a hair follicle support. It's also a
hair growth kind of herb. But then pomegranate oil. Oh, if you've never used it, you should get
yourself some pomegranate oil.
I've never thought about that.
Is it going to the berries in the inside or does it come from the...
It comes from the seeds.
Oh, does.
Okay.
And it's got a beautiful consistency.
It's very like tallow, you know, has a similar lipid profile so it absorbs really quickly,
but it supports the hair follicle, which is why I was saying that the beard oil would be
a great tonic for the scalp and the hair if you're into the oil in your hair, right?
But the combination of oils and the beard oils, that was an inspired blend for sure.
And there's a women's facial oil.
You know, Ash and I have been talking about it a bit down the road here.
Well, yeah.
And until that comes out, you can, ladies, use the beard oil on your face.
Many have done it.
And we're getting great responses, reviews.
That's the word I'm looking for.
Great reviews.
Yeah, pomegranate oil also helps grow hair.
So I'm not sure, you know, I'm not sure that ladies are going to wake up with a beard or anything.
But I mentioned that just to say men in general who, like I looked up the statistics for this a number of months ago in terms of how many men actually engage in any kind of, you know, sort of appropriate grooming beyond the toothpaste or something.
And it's very little that actually, you know, take care of.
themselves and so the beard oil while being really beneficial for the beard is designed actually to be
beneficial for the skin around the beard so for the men that are not growing a beard the beard oil
is designed for you actually you know what I mean I have very very fine hair so like putting
oil in my hair is like a oh no I can't do that my hair already is fine but I wonder if I put it in my hair
like, you know, the day right before I wash it or whatever else, if it will help my hair.
I'd be interested to know. I mean, I think there's, Ash and I were also talking about this the other day, that there's got to be some hair treatment.
Shampoo is not an easy thing to make and also requires some chemical stuff in order to get it to stabilize on the shelf.
You know, there's lots of things that you do at home.
But once you start shipping this out to people and that sort of thing, it can get a little, you know, you want things to be stable.
Well, we've been working on the goat milk lotion, sort of a revamp of that for months.
And one of the things that's most important about that is stability testing.
Like, we've got to make sure that we are producing a really stable product.
Yeah.
While not including cyclomethocone polychrylamide.
So I like Brian's idea of making Alpha read that list of ingredients that you just struggled through.
Oh, I think it would be great.
Alpha struggles to say words like frustrated and Valentine's.
So it's going to be really fun to have him use his sexy voice and read that list of ingredients.
We're going to make that happen.
Also, Annie, Denise and two asked if you can put a list together of those bad ingredients that you mentioned.
So we can publish that and folks can have it in their notes and which we will do.
Yeah.
And I think.
Jackie keeps show notes so we can throw those.
throw that list up if you have. Yeah, no, we can we can throw the list up. This actually represents
two specific lotions and I think the old adage if you can't, if there's too many words in there that
you can't pronounce, pronounce, it's probably worth staying away from. I can certainly, we can
certainly post a bunch of, so cyclone as an example is a silico is a silicone derivative, right?
So you're literally putting silicone
on your skin so it will
feel the top. Polychrylamide
is a polymer. Another word
is a plastic.
Let's put plastic on the skin.
Holy shit. But these things make your skin
feel good. And I want to reiterate
these are very well
known, established,
and well thought of brands. And I'm not here to
criminalize anybody.
Just saying that that is the value
and sort of the, you know, there's the narrative, right?
There's the narrative right in front of your face.
And it's just a good idea to sort of, yeah, I think anybody that went into CVS,
pick your most expensive lotion on the shelf in CVS, and you're going to read a bunch of
the words that sound very similar to the list that I just read, right?
I'm sorry, but Alphonics is, that's the name of whatever we're doing with this whole domain.
Like we need an alpha word calendar kind of thing and I think we should call it alphonic.
Oh, yeah, buttercup.
I know, butter.
Brilliant.
Anyway, so that's my sort of lotion thing.
There's, you know, it's one of the reasons why I tend, I'm more of a tallow girl than a lotion girl these days just because.
Same here.
That is, pardon.
I said, same here.
I use a big tallow bar all the time.
That's what I use on my face.
I use it on my lips.
It is like saved my skin.
Like for real.
I've never put anything on my skin before because I put lotion on it and I would break out like for real have rashes and sores.
Or I would get, you know, pimples and all this stuff.
I'm like, what is wrong with my face?
Turns out there was really nothing wrong.
It was very sensitive.
I'm the same way to, you know, what's the word?
Shampoos and things like that.
So this game changer.
It's what I use every day in the morning and at night.
So I love it.
We'll do some bombs at some point.
And we did the sticks originally just from a shipping and perspective.
The bombs are really cool.
I carry a bunch of bombs.
But anyway.
I would just say, because we should move on to animals just in the interest of time.
Okay, I'm going to say a couple of things about deodorant first.
Okay.
I was just going to say that this lotion has actually changed.
changed my skin. Like not just, you know, solved a skin issue or whatever, but actually like
changed the way that my skin looks, the level of kind of like, you know, like it doesn't look
all dried out anymore. And I mean, even if I don't have the lotion on, it's like my skin has
improved. I also use this lotion, the unscended lotion on the face. It is my face cream.
I love it. Okay. So I just wanted to say about the deodorant. So we've gotten a lot of
feedback, great feedback on the deodorant, it lasts a really long time. So in lieu of the conversation
that we just had, right, about maintaining sort of freshness and integrity of the ingredients and that
sort of thing, it has occurred to us that we don't actually want the deodorant to last six months
in your bathroom. Just saying, so we're probably going to look at a size reduction. One thing we did
get feedback from and we have sort of throughout is that we originally, when you pour a hot
liquid into a tube and it cools, it contracts, and there is this hole that gets created in the
middle, right? So for the first, up until about a month ago, I would partially fill the tube,
wait for that to cool, and then I'd finish filling the tube and you'd get a nice smooth
surface, right? What would happen, though, is that this is a, man, it's a sensitive recipe in a way.
And so what would happen is people would use the deodorant in about an inch down. It would
break off because the second, the second four didn't bond with the first four, right? And or I would
pour partial lotions 80 or deodorants 80 of them.
and then I'd go back to fill them up and I'd fill 70 of them and run out and have to create another batch
and then the other 10 would get another batch on top and no matter how discreet I am with ingredients
every batch is just slightly different anyway so that breaking off thing was sort of problematic so anyway
now we're not doing a double pour and there's a hole in the middle get over
Okay.
Yeah, so just get over it.
Just get over the hole.
That's the lemon grapefruit.
So I just wanted to say that there's nothing wrong.
You're getting the same amount.
It's just there's a hole in the middle on the deodorant.
And then if anybody's interested in going and reviewing natural deodorants in the market,
I just have to say that.
A, we are about 30% cheaper by volume than any other natural deodorant worth it's salt out there.
Works better.
So.
Fairly, and please be careful.
90% of the natural deodorants are not natural.
The one that I was looking at yesterday, it's also very pervasive out there, is the first
ingredient is propylene glycol, which is what I just was talking about earlier,
is just simply a flavor carrier, right?
So they're loading up and there's baking soda, and anyway, and baking soda is not neutral,
so the skin and so it causes irritation.
this is not only an incredible value, nobody's making any money on it, but we're happy to serve you,
but it's also when you compare the ingredient label of other like deodorants, by volume, they're
far more expensive, but secondarily they're not as effective because the main ingredient,
the ingredient that is actually tackling odor is one of the most expensive ingredients in the
formula. For us, it is the second ingredient in the lineup. For all of these other folks,
it's the second to last. Oh, wow. Second to last, right? So. Yeah, I would say too on the
deodorant because this was one of the things that I was asking Annie about around Christmas
time because there is a specific product brand. I'm not going to mention the name of it,
but Mrs. Rise Attire did so in the chat. Please nobody put it on the screen.
screen because we don't want to disparage other brands.
Yeah, we're not going to talk about other brands.
Unless we're saying nice things about them like Desert Essence toothpaste.
But, you know, that was a question for me.
Why is this very popular natural deodorant, non-aluminum brand so much cheaper than
ours?
Annie's first response was, let's go look at the ingredients.
And sure enough, it seems like they will hype up labels like organic.
and the expense of the you know clean like it's not actually we're not you're not actually getting a clean
product um you're getting you know a bunch of chemicals but some of the ingredients are are organic and
so you're getting you know that that kind of marketing and labeling but from a product standpoint
um our our deodorant is in a class of its own and like you know we've said on
in the ads and whatnot about it.
It actually works.
It's a natural deodorant.
The problem with natural deodorants is they don't work.
They don't, they don't, you know, they're not antiperspirants and they don't really, you know,
do all of the things you want deodorant to do.
Ours does.
Yeah.
And if you put a bunch of propylene glycol and some heavy fragrance in a stick and the fragrance
is nice, then people are going to have the sense that they sound like anything else other than themselves, right?
Yes, but what are you putting into your lymph nodes?
Totally, dude.
Oh, really, really, really.
No, and that stuff is like, that stuff keeps me up at night, honestly.
That stuff keeps me up at night.
If something is made with organic ingredients, it only has to have 70% organic ingredients in it.
Yeah, to say with organic ingredients.
And like the labeling of things as organic is it self-corrupted.
And anytime you see plant-based, it means nothing, right?
Like a lot of synthetic things come, are plant-derived, plant-based.
It means nothing.
It does not make it better or, you know, I suppose you could feel better about something coming from a plant instead of petroleum.
but I'm not sure in the way the body metabolizes and recognizes things.
It's marketed to vegetarians.
Yeah, which was something I wanted to say about the oil choices also is that there is this sense
that you have comedogenic and non-cometogenic, right?
Non-cometogenic in some ways, in some ways, is related to the skin recognizing the
oil or stuff you're putting on it, right? So if it's sitting on top of your skin and loading up your
pores, there's a lack of recognition of that material with your skin. Does that make sense? Right? So this
whole notion of comedogenic in some ways is related to the absorption value of the product on your
skin. So there's some very common oils. I'm not going to talk about it now because I don't want to
get anybody mad. And we got to move on to animals, Annie. Yeah, very common oils.
that are not non-comitogenic, but they also, they simply sit on top of your skin, much like
oxycelymethicone polychrylamide, right? So they may be perfectly normal oils, but they're not
actually absorbing in your skin. And I'm sure everybody that's used a body butter has had that
experience, right?
Where you take a body butter and it's like you're greased up forever, right?
Yeah.
Anyway, there you have that.
So on the deodorant, hang on a second.
On the deodorant, one person sent in a $1 rumble rent about sensitive skin under
the arms.
And someone else asked, is there an unscented deodorant?
We don't have an unscented deodorant currently, but I don't know if that's something
that.
But I just made one yesterday.
Oh, right.
yesterday.
Yep.
So stay tuned.
My stepmother asked for an unscented deodorant.
Because scents are the things that are going to irritate within the context of this type of formula, right?
If something's going to irritate you, it's going to be the scent because nothing else here is designed to irritate you or antagonize your sleep.
Okay.
We have to move on.
Oh my god, it's little prince.
Oh.
So, it looks like a stuff down on my square.
That's the little prince.
A little mouse, I can't.
I know, he's just all the face.
We have a whole bunch of pictures, but Annie, you tell me how you want to go through this.
Okay, I think we'll just set this up and then try to scream through it.
I was going to run everybody.
It's the same process for me.
Making body care and processing fiber is all the same, right?
I want to process the fiber in a way that adds value and doesn't antagonize.
right? And so we'll just do a little opener and then we can show the pictures. Look at that.
Oh, wow. Oh, my goodness. So when it comes to, you know, if anybody ever heard of fiber frequency
and just the, yeah, boy, natural fiber versus, you know, I'm going to sound like one of those old
hippie-dippy-dippy chicks. I love it. To be fair, you kind of are one of those old hippie-dippy chicks.
And we love you for it.
100%.
Right.
But this was not the plan, guys, I guess is the thing.
This was, I didn't, I wasn't sitting in my, you know, living room when I was 30 years old going,
man, this is what I want to do.
I want to like grow fiber and make stuff.
It sort of was just one of those things that evolved and then became interesting to me
in the same way that this stuff is interesting.
that if, you know, when you talk about, again, what you're putting on your body, there is such a thing called the frequency of fiber, right? And it's a little woo-woo, but it's not actually woo-woo. This is scientifically proven. We carry a frequency. It's like between 72 and 100. Most of us are probably closer to 100 than 72. So when you hear somebody say, you know, going like, man, you're really low frequency. You know, you want to elevate your frequency. So,
When we talk about fibers in clothing, all of man-made fiber is around zero to 15
hertz.
And what that means is, is when you put that stuff on your body, you're just dragging down
your whole biometric thing.
You're viven low.
And if you have any familiarity with wearing, like, cotton or wool versus acrylic and
polyester and those things over time if you have any sensitivity at all you will lean more and more
towards the cotton and wool and farther and farther from the man-made stuff because it simply
it affects your immune system you know like all of these things just layer on top of each other
so to me it's just one of those another one of those choices i'm so glad i don't have to show up in an
office every day anymore because my wardrobe is quite limited
this is sort of it
t-shirts jeans and
I just I don't know if you saw this Annie
Gwimby says she made a prayer shawl for John's mom
using your yarn which I
Oh you are the
Oh my goodness you know how powerful
Beautiful
prayer shawes this one's not with your yarn
But it's still amazing and one of my most
prized possessions I also have a hat that matches this
You guys will recognize it
Yeah yeah so anyway the fiber thing
Once I got alpacas, the fiber thing became the thing, right?
I mean, a lot of people have alpacas, they breed alpacas, they sell alpacas, and they show
alpacas, but they actually don't do anything with the fiber.
And so when I was stepping into the fiber thing, I had no idea how intensive it was, right?
But I also was fascinated when I started to understand sort of fibers and, you know, the use of fibers
in terms of our overall wellness.
I also was, you know, a runner and did various things and experience.
extreme weather and so that, you know, sort of informed me on some level. But less and less and
less was I able to, honestly able to wear polyester or synthetic stuff. I guess can't do it anymore.
It feels bad. I sweat a lot and I'm uncomfortable, you know. So anyway, the fiber thing,
you know, it's one thing to have 120 alpacos in your vine and 30 sheep and take care of every day and do
all that stuff. It is a whole other trip when you are making a commitment to processing all the
fiber, not only all your fiber, but all the other people else's fiber around you. So this is a little
guy, actually. These are all little guys. That structure that you see in the fiber, we call it
crimp. The reason it's interesting is that when you're wearing natural fiber and it
pokes you, you know, you got a pokey feeling on your skin.
Like it's sensitive. A lot of people have that experience with wool.
It's sheep's wool, yeah.
The reason that is, is not so much that the wool is coarse, although it probably is in that
particular application.
It's more that the fibers in that yarn are inconsistent one to the other, right?
In terms of their width.
So if you blend fiber together and some of it's 20 micron and some of it's,
Some of it's 25 micron and some of it's 27 micron, that yarn, and I don't care whose fiber it is, is not going to be soft to the skin.
When you're growing fiber, the only way you can tell on the animal that the fiber is growing consistent on these animals.
And you can tell there's some, you know, some of these guys are spotted guys, which makes it harder because pigment carries width on a fiber shaft.
But when you see that structure, the only way that you can have that structure, isn't that beautiful?
The only way you can have that structure on an animal, probably not the only way, but this indicates that structure is delivered by virtue of the fact that the fibers are consistent one to the other.
In other words, if they're not consistent one to the other, they wouldn't create that structure on the animal, which is why we like to.
to see that crimp when we're you know if you go to an alpacos the equal wave the equal crimp
yeah yeah yeah it's so beautiful really good that is a good shot right though as a top line
so we like to see that structure um and we like to you know when we're blending fibers and stuff
we blend them within a consistent range so you have to be able to tell you know ash is like
Is that?
Help me sort of fiber.
Yeah.
Based on, you know, how, like, genetics of the animal, or is it based on, like, if you feed
the animal well and take care of it?
Or how do you achieve that?
Is it?
It's genetics.
No, no.
Apacas, they're just way less developed than sheep, at least here in the U.S.
So this is like a big, this is a big leap from where I started, right?
These animals are, you know, this is, we're tripping into sort of the elite.
fiber category here with these guys and that's just sort of a goal from a breeding perspective
but when you're you know oh my goodness these guys are getting ready to share so the point is is that
you know you grow the fiber you try to make sure you're growing the right fiber and then you got to
shear the fiber and that's what we're looking at here with this little group of boys go back to the
group of boys because harry is back see harry is way there in the back although the so the white one
that's kind of right in the dead center in the photo is Harry, which is the one named after John Harold.
Yeah, he's well-o-in-haired of Harold.
Is that B.B. right in front of him?
No.
Pardon?
That's not B.B. right in front of him, is it?
No, that's actually, that's a very funny little guy. He's, he's never going to get bigger than that.
He's about six years old in that picture. And his name is Tonka.
And he's a very special boy, but he'll never graduate from the youngsters, because.
because he's just big enough.
He can't compete with the cruise.
Yep, he's very sensitive.
So anyway, he's a forever alpaca at the farm.
But right now he was in with this group.
But anyway, these guys are tiered up to shear, right?
So we bring them out into the lane.
They're all geared up and ready to go.
And then we put them on the ground.
You can see we tie him up, and that's my shearer Tom.
It was only these two guys and me.
We were at the very end of finishing up like four or five animals.
Anyway, the fiber comes off.
it lands on a plastic sheet like that.
And then you pick it up.
Wow.
And you pick it up.
And then next photo.
Where's that other one with the table?
Table here.
There we go.
And then we lay it on the table and we clean it up, roll it up,
and save it for sorting.
And I didn't get a picture of the barn right now,
but there's about 3,000 pounds of fiber on the farm right now.
And it's all sitting giant.
bags rolled up as individual fleeces because each one of those fleeces then needs to go back on this table,
get evaluated for its thinness, its micron, how thin it is, get separated by grade and color,
and then it gets combined back again for different uses. So from shearing to end product,
and it's very labor intensive, let me just say. We're gathering a group. We're gathering a group,
of Badlands Upper Echelon people.
Quick question.
For the, when you say clean the fiber, how do you clean it?
Because it's like, yeah.
Yeah, so alpaca, you can see on the outer edges.
You probably can't see it very well, but the belly fiber, you know, so you're shearing
off the animal in one piece, hopefully, right?
And you're catching the belly fiber and you're catching some of the chest fiber and
you're catching some of the leg fiber when you do that. So we call those seconds and those get
pulled out of the fiber. See that little hold on this picture out. See that little speck of fiber
that's sitting on the edge of the plastic there, those little pieces. Those are called second
cuts. Those have to get removed everywhere, which is why you want a good shear, you know. So it's when
the blade goes across the animal, when they come back to do the.
the second cut, if they've left a ridge of fiber on the first cut and those little pieces end up in the
blanket, it is a nightmare. So you want to share, you have to, because all those second cuts have to be
removed. So every fleece has to get cleaned, and I don't mean cleaned, I mean all the second
cuts removed and all the exterior sort of guard hair removed. So they can be a clean, consistent blanket,
right? Then it gets thrown in a bag with the rest of.
of its grade and color. And then those things, some of it goes to yarn and that gets processed
very differently. And then a bunch of it has been going into this fabric project of mine.
And that ships off. It goes to washing. Then it goes to fabric making. And then it goes to fabrication.
So from the beginning, from growing the fiber to shearing the fiber to getting an end product,
it's like two and a half years. Oh, my gosh. The other question I had was about
the fibers itself, you say that it takes
like obviously multiple generations
for you to be able to breed the fiber
into how, like the elite fiber
like you're saying now.
Yep.
How long, like how many generations do you think
that it would normally take for it to get
down to that elite status?
It really depends on what you have
available to you in terms of like
quality animals because you can't,
you know, you have to have access
to those kinds of animals. I do.
but many farms
obviously
I do
but that in itself
takes a long time
you know
I have some self-borne
studs and I also have
some other studs that I've
gotten from other farms you know
it's pretty intensive
anyway the big
the big flamil here with the whole
fiber growing thing
because this happened with sheep too
like I have 30 sheep and they also
get cheered go through a similar process
that will happen in
April this year. And then all that fiber will join the fiber that's already down in the barn. And all
that fiber is going out this year to make more fabric for next year. And I'm doing probably five or six
times what I did this year. So I know it. So we've finally sort of gotten to the point where we
like what we're making. I would say we like there's like seven of me.
But it's taken like four years to get the fabric to a point and a place where it meets my expectations.
And it goes back to that same value equation I was talking about earlier.
I wanted to produce something, A, that was 100% domestic, right?
We don't have anything here that's 100% domestic.
We can't produce it.
So the fabric is that thing.
But I wanted it to elevate alpaca, not just be a,
a blend of whatever you know whatever um but i also can i pause you there for a second because you started
talking about something before and then jackie asked a question and we didn't get back to it but i want to
go back to we are going to have a bad land shearing party in may yep i will be there
jordan will be there you guys might be there if you can make it um because we we want to get as
many of us out there it'll be uh you know we're going to do the shearing do the sorting all the things
on the pictures that we went through so that'll be a lot of fun the other thing
I want to point out as Annie is talking about this fabric and she's wearing a vest.
She's wearing a vest that is the kind of latest, I think, right?
Annie, the latest.
Yeah, this is sort of a pinnacle.
Hang on just a second.
I have an earlier version of the fabric that she's been working on.
But what Annie is doing with this fabric is truly innovative from an America First standpoint,
it's not being done.
There is no, what is it?
It is 100% domestic, 80% of it.
out of my barn 100% domestic 100% alpaca yeah 100% domestically produced commercial item in the u.s
there is no other 100% domestic 100% alpaca produced item in the united states of america
i am so when we say you're supporting six american businesses ranches farms etc when you support
soft disclosure, that doesn't just mean you're supporting them with a purchase of a bottle of a lotion
and they're getting their cut of the bottle of lotion. It means that you are forced multiplying your
dollars to go into doing things like reimagining and innovating in the American wool market.
And as we talked about when Annie came on, Culture of Change several months ago,
the American wool market has been absolutely decimated by globalism. It has been undercut
and American farmers have been sold down the river for globalism.
And Annie is actually working on bringing it back and doing something truly innovative.
It's really beautiful.
We've got about five minutes left, Annie, so I'll let you take it.
Okay, so I'm going to do a commercial because all of this takes a tremendous amount of funding, right?
So I've done, we're doing our promotion.
We're doing, oh, my God, that's Loreline.
While you're doing your commercial, I'm going to put the cute babies out.
Okay, okay, no one's going to pay attention.
Anyway, we're doing a pretty decent promotion online on the store.
All of the throws that just came in of this fabric, they're so beautiful.
There's going to be a sizable discount pass through to Badlands customers only.
All of the fabric items that we have in stock are going to be a significant discount.
But I also have, wait a second, we have to show, show the flicking.
in hats.
I don't think I have it in my hands.
No, I have them in my hands.
Oh, sorry, very sorry.
Hold for processing.
Hold for processing.
And wait.
Oh.
I have to take care of my hands.
I have to see more like them.
I have scrunchy hats like Ash.
Oh, my goodness.
Look at those.
Wait.
Are they on the website?
Yep, they're all on the website.
Most of them.
The willowend goods.com.
You can actually do it quick, because every time these hats are on the
the site, they go immediately.
Yep, they're going. Hold on.
These are awesome.
These are like the handworm.
And these are all the custom yarn goods.
And then this hat, which you might be like that's a kid's hat.
I have never sold this to a child.
I love these hats only to adults.
Mead.
We call it an alpaca.
Yeah.
And then, oh my gosh.
Then headbands.
There's like a scrunchy hat headband.
Oh, you can pull your hair back.
Oh, my gosh.
There's lots of stuff up there.
All the knitters and weavers got busy.
And, yeah, I'm just trying to move inventory out into all the right hands to fund the, this is what they call a jump sample, what I'm wearing, this vest, which is stunning.
It's like a fur.
That fabric is like fur.
It's like a fur.
It is unbelievable.
The quality of it,
it's just, it's there's something
It's light. It's warm. It's
It's stupendous. But anyway, all of this
baby is the mama. This is the mama of this baby.
Yep. She was the littlest baby ever born here.
Seven pounds. They're normally about 16 pounds.
And she should not have made it. She came out. She started nursing.
and we had to do a couple of things with her, but that's Lorelai.
The cute pumpkin, seven pounds, seven pounds.
The alpaca.
This one, pause on this one.
He looks like he's like just vibed, man.
He's just like, yeah.
He is a chill little.
Oh, my God.
He's got the stoner vibes.
Yes.
Like, he needs to be wearing a penis.
You need to put one of the beanies on.
He's not a stoner.
Oh, man.
He does act a little stonerish, though, to be honest.
I thought he looked like a midget alpaca.
Like, where are his legs?
Because if you look at, like, Bunny Boy here, look at those legs.
He is a beautiful animal.
Those legs compared to this guy's legs.
Wow.
Okay.
I feel like that should be a creature from Star Wars or something.
It's so cool.
Okay.
You know what's really ironic about that picture?
Keep it there for a second.
Oh, sorry.
That last one.
The mom right behind this little boy, see how thin she looks?
Yeah.
So she was unwell, that whole season.
That is Laurelized mom.
And I had the vet come down in September, and we were going to put her down.
We thought she lost her pregnancy.
The vet came down and said, let's just try one more thing.
So we tried it.
She kicked back into gear, and I had ultrasounded her early in the year.
I'd bred her the year before.
and she had lost the baby.
This weird metabolic thing happened with her.
And so it's ironic that we were just looking at those pictures
and I'm just like, oh my God, that's Bella.
She's actually pregnant with Lorelei.
This was right around July.
She got thinner and thinner and thinner.
And then I came out to the barn in October one day
and she was in a special pen so I could give her special food
and all of this stuff.
And there was a placenta on the ground.
And I'm like, what?
the hell. And I went out the little door and there was the tiny Lorelei. And I was like this
whole time, he was doing everything she good to support that little pumpkin right there.
In 10 seconds, in 10 seconds, tell us about this one. That is, that is a sentence. I actually just
sold her yesterday. He's a beautiful spotted girl. So I breed for spots, which is less than 1% of
the national herd. It's the biggest developmental
opportunity in the herd. I have
one of the biggest spotted herds
in the country. And
she is just a prime example
of a beautiful little girl that
was born to
Mama Kuska. So we were taking pictures
of her that day. She didn't like it.
She didn't like it.
She didn't get it.
She's a very pretty girl.
Very pretty girl. So some of these animals
end up at other farms so
that they can then improve their programs in the same area.
That's how it's done.
So willowengoods.com you can find all the information, see all of the things, get all of the
products.
And Annie, of course, will be back and we'll have lots more content from the farm and the
baby goats.
I don't have baby goats in May, which is just.
And by and large, just the question about the toothpaste.
I think Tom's toothpaste is fine.
There's a couple of ingredients in there that I wouldn't use, but there's nothing dangerous in
there. Yeah, we got to move on.
All right, everybody, if you want
to come talk
to us about this in person
and try
the products and hang out with us,
we are going to be line dancing,
which we will show you about in a second.
But we will be in Nashville
April night through the 12th. Please
come join us and hang out. Badlandsmedia.
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It's about five or six
days left. A virtual ticket
being at the discounted price.
They go up on March 15th.
You want to get your virtual ticket now
if you're not going to be able to join us
in person, badlandsmedia.tv slash events.
And in case you thought,
I was making it up when I said
that we were going to be line dancing.
I was not.
And here is actually your first lesson.
So get ready for guard.
Second?
Did you do one last week?
Yeah.
I learned it.
My first, this is my first lesson.
because I had to go to the eye doctor.
Do you guys like my new glasses?
They're beautiful.
I was legally blind with my old glasses.
You still think we're pretty?
So pretty.
You guys are so prettyer than I remember.
But yeah, so here is your second lesson.
My first line dancing lesson,
your second line dancing lesson.
Let's go.
Let's learn another line dance, guys.
This one is to Bar Song by Shabuzi.
Too close.
We're going to start with our right foot.
Stepping out to the right, forward with the right,
out with your left, back with your left.
Side touch with your left foot,
side touch with your right foot, great fine,
right leg front, left leg behind,
right leg out, left leg touch.
Repeat, step out left, touch right,
Touch right, out right, touch left.
Grapevine to the left.
Left goes in front.
Right goes behind, left goes out, right touches.
Now we're going to do a quarter turn with a kick, with your right foot.
Kick, kick, jump out, shake your hips.
Shake your boot it.
From the beginning.
Yeah.
At the beginning, I kind of messed up life.
Oh, here we go.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Keep on, keep on.
It just was really loud.
It's so good.
It's so good.
There you go.
It's nine to five ain't work.
Why the hell do I work so hard?
I can't worry about my problems.
I can't take...
There you go.
Yeah, come to two to the three to the far.
Tell them bring another round, we need plenty more.
Two stepping on the table, she don't need a dance floor.
Oh, my, good Lord.
Someone put me up a double shot of whiskey.
They know me and Jack Danes got a history.
There's a party downtown near a few street.
Everybody at a bar.
Yay!
We're going to do this shit again.
Tell your girl to bring a friend.
Oh, Lord.
Oh, my gosh.
That was amazing.
So good.
So come dancing with us.
Come karaoke singing with us.
Christine and I will probably do Happier than ever by Billy Elish again because it's always really fun to sing.
And we'll do pub crawls, sort of.
Ghosts definitely will.
And we're going to have a blast.
So come hang out with us, Badlandsmedia.
dot TV slash events.
That is the show that we have for you guys today.
So please do us a favor and hit that like button wherever you're watching.
Helps us out quite a bit.
We certainly do appreciate it.
We read the rants already.
We're going to get out of here.
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This way.
Willow and Goods.
Yeah.
And with that, we will see you guys next time.
Thanks, everybody.
Hi.
Oh, hi again.
