Badlands Media - Alphas Make Sandwiches Ep. 70: Hands Down, Tina Peters Clemency & Pill Hacks

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

The ladies open with coffee splash photo challenge fails, including Jackie's noble attempt at a witch's cauldron and Ashe's lone half melted ice cube while Christy's iPhone 17 Pro Max once again outclasses everyone. They tease the Freedom 250 GART in Deadwood, complete with red, white, and blue welcome dinner plans and a renewed hope that Zach Payne and only Lance actually grow mullets. Christy takes the professor's chair for the idiom hands down, which turns out to come from horse racing and not, sadly, a dramatic courtroom gesture, just in time for Napoleon Solo to win the Preakness in a suspicious bit of comms. Ashe walks through her in person visit with Tina Peters two days after Governor Polis granted clemency, unpacking what is actually going on with the weaponization of government, why this case was never about elections despite the headlines, what Tina actually misses (her 97 year old mother, a real steak, a salad with actual tomatoes), why she will not see her dog Minka until she is certain she is not leaving her again, and why people who say she did nothing wrong are missing the same point as people who call her a threat to democracy. Christy closes with how to swallow gel caps without choking and how to unlock a child safety cap forever.

The badlands, one of the badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of a name. You know, it is a hell of a name. Yep, I agree. Good week for Badlands over the, good weeks, I should say. All of these years-long proofs. Brian's judge corruption story is coming back around. It's like, everybody's like, breaking news.

Brian's like, bro, I had that 103 days ago, as far as I understand it. Hello, everybody, and welcome to Elvas Make Sandwiches. We have a very fun show planned today. We're going to talk about Tina Peters. We're going to have hands down, have a good time. And coffee make a mess with coffee, which I failed at. So my problem with that was I only had this little tiny ice cubes. So I couldn't get the, you know, the displacement.

I took a rock from outside. Oh, smart. See, I should have done that. I actually wanted to drink the coffee, though. Well, we did water because we're cheaters. I also don't drink coffee, so there's that. I drank my coffee, and that gave me the energy I needed to create my image. I did it that way.

But after actually followed the rules, which was to do it with your coffee. So she did. That's what I was told to do. Small wins. Small wins. Wait, hang on. I just pulled up the thing in at the Samozoon, so then I heard us on delay. in my ear and that was weird.

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All right. We will talk about the remainder of our sponsors a little bit later in the show. So how are you, how are you ladies doing? Very well. Hi. Oh, and Cam said he thinks you look different because you're tanner. Yes. He did tell me that during the break.

Yeah, that is, that is possible. Well, definitely, I'm definitely Tanner. We, I got that one, longer burnt. Oh, yeah, that one sunburned. And then from there, it's just my skin's like, oh, this is who I am now. I'm like, I turn into a different, like, race almost. I feel like, when I was a little kid, everyone thought that my mom, like, that was not the milkman, but I was, like, Indian. Like, sure.

from like native american or like pejit well i mean they both have it could be both but i think they thought like they don't look anything alike the features are different the tone of skin is different i think they mean like native american yeah i would probably go with that as opposed because it's coming through and this might be the camera and it also might be my actually have to move if i move you guys over here oh your way you're even darker over here so if i have like a filter for the to try and minimize the glare on my glasses. And it makes, remember we did that thing with the colors and it was yellow and I couldn't tell that it was yellow and then I moved the screen over here.

That was because of this filter thing. You look more red in my, my anti-glare. When I moved you over to the non-anteglair, you looked much browner. Oh. I feel like you're Native American here. You're Pagit over here. Okay. Let us know which one you decide that you like.

better and I'll try to change my wardrobe accordingly just for you. Yeah, I like it. I feel like I have power now. All right. Well, let's get into the show and, you know, everybody's going to be shocked. It's a breaking news. I failed at the camera roll challenge. Oh, you did. You did. Breaking news. You did not fail. Oh, you did. It's fine. I'm embracing it. You actually attempted it, though. So that is the good thing because a lot of the people in the chat did not attempt. Oh, what's wrong with you guys? Scared of making a mess.

Yeah. That's true. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. But just to recall everyone's memory on what the challenge even was, here is the video. Oh, I've got to go back. They'll take your coffee

pictures with your dirty underwear in the background? Well, I remember you said that the first time I have news for you. I forgot to drop the exposure. I tried to figure it out and couldn't, so just did it without it. So to do the exposure thing. Yeah, so exposure thing is when you're looking at your screen and you have the yellow square

and you see the sunlight thing, you tap on that and that's how you're able to, you literally slide up and down on your screen. And then you can lock it too. Oh, interesting. Okay. I also forgot to turn the camera upside down. So I just all around failed. Yes.

That's right. I did produce a picture, so I like 10% didn't fail, but the rest of it is definitely off. That's all right. Like I said, you at least attempted. I did attempt. Yes. So here we go. Participation trophy.

A for effort. This was mine. So I grabbed this mug in the attempt to potentially like take the photo and like do like a spooky scene of like a cauldron and then I was like I don't want to do this anymore it still kind of gives the like platform nine and three quarters yeah yeah well I was gonna like edit it and like go Photoshop it and I was like why am I doing this right now it would have been cool if you photoshopped it to be like green or you know the liquid yeah yeah that was that's what I was going for and I was like this is going to take too long for an hour and a half show so I was like I'm not doing that so uh that is the first picture Okay. And then we have some more pictures of the same thing. But I like this one. What house are you in? Slytherin. Oh, yeah. You definitely are in Slytherner. Yes. I am. So I'm playing Harry Potter, right? And I am Gryffindor.

But I made a name. And I'm usually one of those people that's really bad at making up names. So I just usually make everything like steiny ween because that's just, it's one that I know. But I don't know why I decided I was going to make my name, Riannon, Lupin. Okay. Okay. And I'm like that actually, like I kind of like it. It's a good Harry Potter name.

It is. Right. Right. And I really like Fleetwood Mac. And Lupin is lupus based off of a wolf. And my last name is Lupo. So it's perfect. I know.

And nobody. It also reminded me of Riannon from the book series. Throne of glass, I think it is. Yes. Yes. I don't know that. But now I have Rianan from Fleetwood Mac playing in my head. Which is great because prior to this moment, hydrate your elbows was playing on a loop in my head.

So I'm glad we've moved on. At least, but we're going to go back to it eventually. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I thought this one was cool. It looked like a surfer wave. Yeah, like it. It was really cool.

And then this is the last one that, again, I didn't feel like I captured this one, but it's fine. And Christy absolutely nailed it, I will say. Well, I have the new phone. So the frames per second really, really helps. this because it gives you so many more clear images. Yes. So I got a little splash. It is coffee.

My problem is that I have the Ice Daddy, right? The Ice Machine. It's not a sponsor of the show today, but amazing products. So Chef IQ, people should go. Chefman, Chefman. Ice Daddy, yes. Ice Daddy, yes. It's not called that, but that's what I call it because I love it so much.

And, but since we've had ice daddy, which is like a year now, maybe is it two years? I don't even know. I'm so addicted to it. We don't make big ice cubes anymore. And so I only had small ice cubes. Now, there was a tray of ice cubes, like old ones in the freezer, but the one, like, it was like crumbled up. You know how the ice trays can get all, like, wreck? Like, it was like that, except there was one ice cube, but it was like half the size of a regular ice cube.

So I couldn't do multiple takes. Now, Jackie said, you know, rock. I should have thought of that. I should have done that. But this is what we got. It works. It works. And then Christy just had to outdo us all, which is fine,

because the camera quality on the iPhone 17 Pro max, right? Yeah. No, I have the regular-sized one, but I do regret not getting the bigger one because I hold Brian's phone. I'm like, I can see everything so much clearer. Anyways, I mean, just look at this. I know, right?

It looks like an incredible professional person did it. Yeah. Photobo by dog. Yes, always. Always photobomb by a dog. Oh, that's a good one. Mm-hmm. There were so many good ones.

And this was in one take, too. I didn't even do a second video or anything. I was like, I brought a little ramekin of ice cubes outside and just, Nice. Yeah. I mean, amazing. That was all the submissions we got this week. Just us?

Just us. Oh, wow. All right. Well, what are we doing next week? Next week, I think everyone should be able to do this. It is, we're looking at leaves. We're taking photos of leaves. So this should be, here we go with the video.

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This reveals all the intricate details and veins you couldn't normally capture. Here's before and after. Who else got a phone background? Oh, that's very cool. Yeah. And if you're new to the show or the segment, what we're doing is learning how to use our cameras. So last year we spent this segment doing selfies essentially, right? Picture like, you know, how to how to stand, how to change the settings to get better, you know, glow and all of the things.

Action shots. We had a lot of fun with it. Had some really great, really great shots. And this year, because it was almost always only us doing that challenge because people don't want their faces out there, right? a lot of anons in the audience and don't want their faces out there. This year we're focusing on figuring out the function of our cameras because I'm, you know, Jackie's the master on this, but I'm the person that's just like click, click, click, click, you know, like don't even like focus it.

The pictures come out blurry sometimes and it's okay. Sometimes they do. Yeah. And this has been incredibly helpful. Like, you know, but we've lowered the exposure before. I definitely figured it out before, but I, and I was kind of in a rush. and only had the one ice cube. So I was like, I'm failing even before I start.

So, but yeah, that's what we're, that's what we're doing with this segment. So if you're new to the show, if you're new to the segment, we would like for you to participate. And the video of the challenge every single week is on Jackie's social media. She pins it to the social media. So you miss the show, but you want to participate in the next week's segment, you certainly can. And just go to Jackie's social media, figure out what the challenge is, and then send her your phone. And you don't have to put your face in them. No.

Which here's the thing. The reason we did the whole selfie thing is because, well, I think in large part, I was retarded in photos and didn't know how to stand and didn't know how to do any of those things. And Jackie was like, I ain't hanging out with you. If you can't. Not true. Not true at all. I'm pretty sure that's how that went.

And so we did a lot of learnings. And I feel like I am better at photos now. Still not great. And I think I've lost. I'm rusty now because you haven't forced me to do it every week. week. And so I feel like I'm slipping back into my old habits of throw one in there, Jackie. Next week, just be like selfie. Well, we'll have to, well, I know that for sure, like for Gart, we'll do like a whole like bank of

of videos for us to kind of like, you know, when Christie did the line dancing, we'll do like maybe something like that. So that when we're in a group setting, we have group poses that we can do. Yeah. Fantastic. All right, everybody. So again, the challenge for week will be posted and pinned to Jackie's social media and this has been your camera roll update speaking of the the selfies and the photos and getting photos and making memories guards coming up and i'm particularly excited about this so in the run up to nashville we were doing line dancing i don't know what we're and then you know people got mad at us because we didn't have like some big line dancing event.

But I think everybody pretty much engaged in some form of line dancing over the weekend, which was the goal that you feel more comfortable joining in, jumping in, doing the line dancing. And that's the thing too is like the scavenger hunts we've done in the past. The these are these are peripheral gart events that are coming out of this show that we are excited about. You know, we do some, um, themed, you know, costume themes sometimes and, you know, all sorts of things. And so,

I don't know what we're doing for Deb Wood. Do you guys have any ideas? I think the theme should be red, white, and blue for the VIV dinner. That's what it should be because we're doing the 250 VIP or welcome dinner because not everybody's at the VIP dinner. Okay, welcome. Yeah, welcome dinner is good. Welcome dinner. Sorry, guys. All right. So red, white and blue. And this might have some overlap. I don't know what the newcomers are doing. The newcomer event is usually during the VIP dinner. And I think I remember hearing that that was going to be something red, white, and blue themed.

Cool. I'm not entirely sure, though. You need to reach out to Bunny to get involved in that whole thing. We'll find out and let everybody know what the theme of the newcomer thing is next week. If somebody in the chat knows, let us know. but Deadwood is a specific So, Garts are all amazing. Deadwood is a unique and amazing experience in itself.

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You can get the in person or the virtual tickets at that link. Badlandsmedia. TV slash events. You can also see the schedule of the other upcoming guards. Now here is the one thing that we know for certain and is not subject to change. Oh, buddy's in the chat. First timers is probably red, white, and blue because we piggyback off you ladies and support.

Well, we love you for that. And there you go. So first timeers red, white and blue. Welcome dinner, red white and blue. I'm probably going to wear red, white, and blue the whole weekend long because it is America's birthday party. And it's the Freedom 250 Festival. And we're going to be at adjacent to Mount Rushmore, allegedly for the unveiling of Trump's face. I don't know.

Nice. There's not a lot of jokes about it. But yeah, it's, oh, she says we kind of want to do a mullet theme too. Only is that amazing. Only, yeah. And it has to get longer all weekend. Zach and John, was it baseless that they had the conversation where they were going to both grow mullets? Oh my gosh.

No, it was only lands. It was only lands on Friday. Yeah, because they debuted a video as an audience member. They debuted it. You know, you were on the show because you told them you're like, your lady friends are not going to be very happy about that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. So yeah. So I hope they do that. Sorry. I hope. Sorry, CC and Lisa. But I really, I really hope. I really hope they do that because I think it'll be hilarious. Did you guys know what the venue used to be that Deadwood? A slime factory.

Nice. And I just kind of looked up. And it's, the slime plant processed ultra fine ore from the home stakes mills using a method developed by C.W. Merrill, the fine park, Particles were dried and then treated to recover gold from the muddy waste. Fantastic. I love everything about it, slimy. So the thing that we know is definitely happening and not subject to change. And if you follow the crowd, you will find your way there is karaoke. We do karaoke and Deadwood as much as we can. It is so much fun.

And it can be? You don't have to pay to do it. Right. Like in Nashville where everybody's lined up. pay to exist in Nashville. It's expensive. Nashville was on a par. I don't think either of you. In fact, I know either of you weren't there, but with Irvine, which was very expensive.

It was like, we can't exist this way. But, yeah, Nashville was close to that. But Deadwood, everything's walkable. I mean, Mount Rushmore, you got to drive there. The airport is not walkable either. Air Force is definitely not. Cosmos mystery experience, also not walkable. But I think we should.

I agree. I think we should get the whole crew. Ooh, that should be Jackie's birthday party. It could be like a field party. Yes. Oh, my gosh. And we could all eat like snacks. Like you know how you used to do in Illinois?

Oh, important tip. Bring food for your room in Deadwood because late night food is really hard to come by. So you're going to want to have some snack option. and make sure that you bring that stuff. I also love Debba because I drive instead of fly. So I can bring all of the outfits, all of the clothes, all of the options and things, as opposed to having to fit everything in one suitcase. I just went to Dollar General and loaded up on snacks. So that's an option for people.

Maggie Bundy says one drink in Nashville was $27. Yeah, Chrissy's like, I'll buy this round of drinks. She's like, these three drinks were $60. Yeah. And they were 12 pounds solo. cups filled with pre-made flushes. That was a really cool bar though. Oh, yeah. I like that

bar. That was a Lacey Bell bottoms up. Yep. Lainey Wilson's Bell bottoms up. Didn't know who that person was until, I mean, I still sort of don't, but until we went to her bar in Nashville, which was as I said, a great bar.

That was my favorite bar that we went to, I think. And I'm so mad we forgot about the dueling pianos in the basis. Yes. The Bayou bar downstairs. I know. That is something that we need to put on the list for, you know, a future location is the is a piano bar. Oh, yeah. I love that. Yeah. So, um, Vegas, great one in Vegas. There you go. So Vegas is in August. We'll be at Gart. Um, and on the list now is, actually, I pulled up. On the list now is that we're going to be finding a piano bar. So I love everything about that. Badlands Media.TV slash events that is hold for processing. Where?

Vegas is September. Is that right? I thought it was in August. Well, I mean, we're doing one at the end of June. So August would be pretty quick. It would be pretty quick. So September 17th through the 20th, 2026 is Las Vegas. And then just recently announced hot off the presses, November 12th.

November 12th through the 15th, 2026, St. Pete Beach, Florida. When my husband and I were first married, we lived in St. Pete. We lived right over the Causeway Bridge from St. Pete Beach. We went there all the time. It is an absolute paradise.

I mean, where we lived, wasn't. We lived in the ghetto a little bit. There were like bank robberies around us more than once. But right over that causeway, Paradise. Oh, yeah, my brother lives in Ybor. Well, he used to. He doesn't anymore. But, um, I don't know.

I don't know. Actually, we could do a night out to Ebor City. We'd have to take either like the trolley or, I don't think the trolley will take us there from Safeby Beach. We'd have to take Uber. And we would definitely have to take Uber. Yes. Awesome.

So badlandsmedia.com. If you want to come hang out with us, the cool thing about art, there's no backstage, right? Like we're all hanging out. We're doing the panels, having the discussions, having the meal. my bedroom and you're not allowed in there.

Well, yeah. I'm just saying. That's the next stage. You're not allowed there. Fair point. But it is one of the, I mean, I think it is the most accessible content in our conference in this space.

I also don't like calling it a conference. I say this every time the word conference comes up because it just feels wrong. I like festival. I was going to say retreat. It retreats another good one. Yeah. Festival retreats. That's what they are.

But yeah, Everybody should come hang out with us. And if you can't, grab a virtual ticket. You still get a part of the experience. You get to be in it in the chats. You get to ask questions of the panels, get behind the scenes, photos and videos, and the community that is built through.

I mean, the GART chat from Nashville is still going every single day. Everybody's still in there kicking it, waiting for the next one. We will probably be starting our exclusive GART live streams in the run-up to Deadwood soon. So you're going to want to buy your ticket soon because you don't get access to those unless you are a ticket holder. All right. I think that we should bring in the professor

and make ourselves smarter. Hello there. Oh, hello. I think I need a bow tie. Oh, I like that. Yeah, I like everything about that. You could borrow cashes. Yes, cash.

You just like one-eyed me like, excuse me? Yeah, I can't really take his collar off that might give weird. vibes if I put a dog collar on my neck. Yeah. I don't know. But, so I hands down will not be doing that. Okay, so today we're going to learn

the idiom, hands down. Look at me, adding stuff to the stage. I love it. I'm so proud of you. Anyways, hands down. Which is not to be confused with hands up, don't shoot. Yes. wait is it oh and then that silly song what was that hands up something something

oh we're going uh gabriella yes i know exactly what it is i don't know was this some millennial thing well tell me no no gen z thing it was like a dance trend on tictop wait neither one of you are gen z no but we it's the song as gabriela by cat's eye yes which is it's like a korean pop And right now. And all the girls would do this dance where you like smack your legs and then you like put your hands up and then you like go down. You put your hands up and then you go la la la la. I don't know anything about that.

But Danny, I think with more of a millennial reference is bringing in. I think it's Miley Cyrus's put my hands up playing my song. Butterflies fly away. Brian's favorite song. And I bet you we could get him to sing it. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited to sing karaoke and deba. I know.

So I don't have Apple music, so I didn't actually watch or get to listen to the song that you said. I think I know the song, but it pissed me off because it wanted me to pay and subscribe. And I was like, I'll do it later. And then I forgot. So how do you don't have Apple music? I don't know. Do you have Spotify? I have Pandora.

That's how you know I'm old. Oh, M. Girl. You pay for the commercial free one. But still, nobody uses that. But, okay, hang on a second. With Apple, though, because you have Apple phones, right? With Apple, you get that bundle thing.

It's like 25 bucks, and you get all of their services, which includes Apple Music and all of the photo services and all of the other things. Yeah. I mean, I guess I should look into it, but I just. I blame Brian. Like that, like they want me to pay extra for things that are like came with my phone.

I don't know. When in doubt, blame Brian. Okay. Sounds good. But yeah, no, we split one Pandora subscription. That's $4.99. So if we're both listening at the same time, it yells at us. And then I never turn it off.

So I don't know if it ever kicks him off. Probably does. Oh, well, anyways, so the meaning. I'm sure he would tell you if you were messing up his experience. You would definitely know. Yeah. We have all met, Brian. We have all with Brian.

Well, hands down, back on topic. but hands down is one of those idioms that sounds like it should involve a dramatic courtroom gesture a victory dance or possibly a very confident high five in everyday English it means something decided without a doubt or won very easily if someone says that was the best sandwich hands down they're not talking about hands going anywhere near a sandwich unless you're eating it of course because who eats a sandwich with a fork a night am i right yeah you are right they they mean the sandwich won the competition so decisively that no one else should have even bothered showing up. So the origin is, I did not think this was the origin, but it's from horse racing. The image is simple.

When a jockey is so far ahead that the outcome is obvious to even the most casual viewers, they can relax their grip and lower their hands before the finish line. That's where the phrase gets its original meaning of winning easily. Right? Like, who would have, who would have? Who would thought that and we're talking about the 18% yeah and that's actually like a timely one wasn't the the Preakness or one and it wasn't the Derby because that was

a couple weeks ago but the one of them was just this past weekend oh I didn't I only knew about the Kentucky Derby was it I think it was the Freakness yeah did a woman trainer win was time too Napoleon Solo won the Preakness

and that's interesting because today's history update which I haven't published yet but is the anniversary of the rise of Napoleon Bonaparte. Oh, coms. And hands down, that is a Yes, that is a very not fortuitous. Came from behind is in the victory is what we're told.

Oh, well, good job Napoleon solo or whatever you said. What did you say? Napoleon Solo. Yeah, it was Saturday. And it was a three-year-old came from behind 151st running of the Preakness. Oh, wow. Hands down, great weekend for this to be our idiom. I agree. So where are we at?

This is where the phrase gets this original meaning of winning easily or so definitively that the competition is already packing its bags. Over time, the phrase escaped the track. entered ordinary speech. It began to mean not only an easy victory, but also something unquestionably true or clearly the best choice. Sorry, this font makes unquestionably look like it's spelled wrong. I was like, oh, well, oh well. That is why people use it for everything from best dessert to best movie or to settle family debates that probably should have been handled by a referee and a strong cup of coffee. The phrase still carries the same energy, confident, decisive, and just a little bit

smug. The earliest first known usage was from Bell's Life in London and the Sporting Chronicle on June 17, 1832, describing a horse that won hands down. A later figurative example appears in the 1866 publication, where it is used to mean an easy win. What matters most is that the first written uses were tied to horse racing, where the phrase described clearly who won the race. Later, writers started using it outside of sports, and by the late 19th century, it had become a common non-racing in non-racing context. In other words, hands down went from describing a jockey, relaxing on a racehorse, to describing your opinion that a certain pizza place is superior to every known, in every known universe. The phrase has been winning ever since. So I just realized something too. So obviously,

like horses they measure them in hands yes yes so I was just thinking that the whole jockey reference makes sense too because they measure horses in hands like they're five hands long or whatever yeah that's cool hey you drive a car with your hands but your your engine power is measured in horses that's true yeah there's something there's something very Very fancy. Do I know what it is? I can't quite... Decode that, Chad. Oh, boy. That's fun. All right. Yeah, hands down. So why it stuck, it lasted because it is short, vivid, and just a little theatrical.

It lets speakers sound certain without sounding stuffy, and it gives ordinary opinions the confidence of a championship trophy. That's why it works so well in everyday speech. It says, I have made my judgment, while politely pretending that the other options ever had a chance. It's also funny because the literal image is so strange. No one actually puts their hands down to prove that an insert favorite dessert. I didn't want to pick one because we didn't need, I didn't need to start fights. Okay. But favorite dessert is the best dessert, but the phrase makes it feel like they should.

That contrast between a serious meaning and a ridiculous imagery is what gives the idiom its charm. Hands down is the perfect expression for a world in which, people want to sound decisive without needing a podium, microphone, or a horse. Tada. Tada. Hands down, the best presentation you're going to see today. Hands down. That is hands down the best presentation about idioms that we are going to see today.

In the next three hours. Just keep thinking. That was written by Christy Lupo. Anyways. Oh, I went and checked in with the chat and it appears that we are coming up on another guard because some things always happen then. All right. So that's our idiom of the week. And thank you, Professor Lupo. I was thinking maybe I should end my segment. You know that guy that tries food and then like throws his glasses? Maybe it should just end it like, no, I don't know. As long as the only thing is, I'm sorry, who are you?

Why do you have Professor Lupo's glasses? Don't mess with me like she did or else you'll get the axe too. All right. So we're going to take a diversion. I'm going to put the history update at the end of the show today. There's so much that happened in history. But I want to talk about Tina Peters. But before we talk about Tina Peters, hydrate your elbows.

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So we did like multiple takes on Onlylands. So you could go back. You could actually go back and find it. And yeah, but I bet it would have been funny to see him, like to actually watch him in person do it. Yeah. And that code, Bad Rands always works.

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And so she hasn't used it yet. Like she hasn't been able to give me a review yet. But I'm sure that she'll be like, oh my God, I've never wanted lotion the way I want this lotion. I love it. Yeah. I feel the same. way about this and I know it probably sounds like I'm being hyperbolic but I really do think that our lotion like the 11 ounce bottle of lotion is like 55 right 11 ounce bottle of lotion you are getting

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the day I got super sunburned I used it too and I thought it was good like in my head I'm like this is going to be sunburns don't stay at a trance against this lotion I'm going to put it on and I'm not going to peel at all and I'm going to be able to show them like that this is I peeled a little but it definitely like I didn't have any of the like after sun allow or anything like that and I exclusively used that and I think I peeled less and it actually really helped soothe my skin when I had the sunburned Did it moisturize your soul? I was putting it here. So, I mean, it kind of was getting close. Is that where your soul is? I think it's going to be like where your diaphragm is in my head. I guess that's where my soul. I picture the like the the image.

I think about like the Da Vinci man. Right? Take that with also all the kind of the toroidal frequency vibration stuff. I picture it is like the kind of emanating out. probably emanating from here at the course. You know, still probably accurate. One with Katz says I think Badland should create a music video

with various Badlanders singing and dancing to moisturize your soul. Yeah, there's, I think there's going to be more that's coming out with whether there's a full song that they played. Yeah, I have it. I have it on. Yeah. But also

there will be merch. So you're, I think Deadwood is where you are potentially, and I can't say this definitively because I don't know, so I'm hedging, but potentially going to be able to get Zach Payne Mullet, maybe some Alpha So Hung, maybe a little burning bunny bright or leprechaun, all sorts of things. Angel John, right? Remember Angel John on Easter? There will be merch, which is just...

I get Mama's boy T-shirts. Oh, yeah, I want that too. Yeah. Mama's good boy. Mama's good boy. Yes. I love that. Also, I think we should take the tallow bar. Like, obviously we have time or if someone has like a printer, we relabel them for as elbow moisturizers.

I like it. But it's the same thing. It's just all that. It'll be the 80s version. Yes. Okay. So we're going to shift gears now. I want to talk about my visit with Tina Peters

on Saturday. That was this weekend. Yes, on Saturday I went and I saw her. I'm particularly proud of today's sketch. I really like doing these sketches to go with the articles. I only do this on my substack with regards to the Colorado stories, but it is really fun to take all the different politicians and characters that are newsmakers in Colorado and create that little scenes with them.

So here you can see, you know, over my shoulder, Tina Peters. There weren't cell block walls like that. That's a, it was kind of an open commons room, tables everywhere. You walk in, a lot of searching. I mean, it's spectate. It's prison, right? Well, there's a lot of places you hide things. Haven't you seen?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they didn't search all of them. But I didn't have to like look. in my mouth and you know pat me down multiple times at different places and stuff so um that was interesting uh so i did this because i asked her a couple different times what her kind of priorities are and like you know you're you're getting out what and if folks missed it on friday governor jared pollis granted clemency to tina peters he cut her sentence in half and made her eligible for parole on

june first and granted parole um effective june first the only only question mark is that the terms of her parole are subject to the guidance of the parole board. The parole board is an independent body with vast amounts of discretion. I spent part of yesterday reading the statutes around it so they can kind of do what they want and there's a little bit of angst over that. But she is getting out either on or shortly after June 1st. So that's in a couple weeks. And so I had the visit with her planned for three to four weeks, I feel like. I think I announced it on a bad land show when it happened that they actually finally granted because I was trying to see her for like a year.

And I don't know if it was a year. But so, you know, for a good long while and I kept getting denied and I kept getting the run around. They'd make me jump through hoops and then tell me no. And so they finally granted it a few weeks ago and set the date for May 16th. No expectation that she was going to have clemency at that point. In fact, I talked to her the Friday before Mother's Day and she was kind of down. I mean, Mother's Day is always hard for Tina Peters because it's her, you know, her son died, passed away in an exhibition for the Navy Seals parachuting, I believe.

And that's awful, right? Yeah. She's a gold star mother. And Mother's Day is. always hard. Mother's Day in prison, you know, exponentially so. And she was kind of down in thinking like, you know, it's, I've been forgotten and, you know, people don't care about elections anymore. And, you know, just kind of a little bit doom and out. And I had said to her, I'm like, Tina, you are going to get out. And you're not, it's not going to be nine years. Like, I think

Polis is going to do this before he leaves office. And I said October, which is what was my kind of prediction was that she was going to get out in October. I, I just felt like he was going to do it right before the midterms. And so I, you know, thought I had more time to prepare for the next phase of the content and the story. But here we are. She was granted on Friday. So I had this meeting scheduled, this visit with her scheduled.

And then huge surprise Friday afternoon when it was 245 actually scooped all of the embargoed news press because they all got the news and advance. advance and were embargoed. They didn't include me in that, the people putting out the news. So screw them. I got it from a source who knew. And they said, oh, it's going to happen in like 15 minutes. So I went out with it on X. And yeah, that's how that works. If you included, if you had included me, then I would have participated in your embargo. But you didn't. So there. And then I had the opportunity to have like the first discussion with Tina Peters right after the grant of clemency. And it was a very, you it was a very different tone from the last time i had spoken to her right before mother's day she is

cautious she's cautiously optimistic about what's going on here she is um you know afraid of uh i don't say afraid you know there's a feeling that it could be a rug which i can't blame nobody can fault her for that right these people have fucked with her more than any other inmate there's we talked about this i think on that in on the air in the past maybe on this show but the there was a Senator Sonia Hockes-Lewis who was facing an ethics violation because she did some shady stuff. She was facing an ethics violation. And to beat the ethics violation, she forged three documents and she was given four felonies, three for forgery, one for attempting to influence a public official. Now she was she was trying to influence a board, an ethics board, which is multiple people.

They only charged her with one felony on that, one for each of the forgeries that she made. Tina Peters, on the other hand, made the one misrepresentation, Conan Hayes is Jerry Wood. They gave her three felonies for the one misrepresentation and conspiracy to commit the same. So there was asymmetry and some disparities in how this was taken up. Tina Peters is a Republican. She was in a Republican district. Sonia Hawkins-Lewis is a Democrat. She was in a Democrat district. That was in City and County of Denver.

Tina Peters, obviously, in Mesa County. And so there was when that decision came down, which was just like in February of this year, our governor came out and said, why? Toot my own horn. I wrote about it. And then the next day, Jared Polis came out and said, this seems really asymmetrical, guys. Like, what is it that? Because Sonia Hawkins Lewis had four felonies and got probation and a fine. Tina Peters had four felonies and got nine years in prison.

prison. And that is egregious when you consider that they're both effectively violations of public trust in the matter of misleading and attempting to influence public official. So that caused a whole storm, all the usual suspects, Jenna Griswold, Phil Weiser, Matt Crane, who's the head of the clerk's association, came out with very strongly worded statements about how it's totally different because Tina Peters believes in that the election is stolen. And that's the thing that they keep just saying out loud, which is mind-blowing to me because one of my most hopium positions is that there is a weaponization of government investigation, soon-to-be indictments surrounding the treatment of not just Tina's case, but all things in the manner of the treatment of Trump

supporters are about the election in the 2021, 2021, 2022, 2023 time frame. I think that there is an investigation. They gave a nod to it in one of their, the DOJ, statements of interest in Tina Peters case before, I think so right after sentencing, I think. But because of, so they kind of said, we're looking into or we're investigating the weaponization of the government with regards to Peters and other similarly situated people. Now, very selfishly, I said this on Onlylands on Friday, very selfishly, if you go from Tina Peters, your next case of weaponization of government as it pertains to the election, most egregious kind of stuff, from government actors.

Mine was a civil case brought by NGOs, but the loan witness, the inception of the case, the legal theory is documented as coming from the Colorado Department of State. So you get to my case. And if they're looking at weaponization of government, I'm here to testify, everyone. I'm here.

I'm here for it and I think that's happening. I think there is a weaponization of government case happening, our investigation at least happening, in which Tina Peters is a material witness. I've often said she's not a material witness in election fraud. And that's not to disparage her or anything that she did. It's how the courts work, right? So to be a witness in court, you have to have personal firsthand knowledge.

And to be a really important witness that would be, say, removed from state custody and placed in federal protective custody because the testimony is so important, you definitely have to have firsthand personal knowledge of the substance. And I have said, I took a lot of shit for this because back when there was a whole big group of people on the internet saying they need to declare her a federal witness for elections and remove her and just send the marshals in and get there and get her. And my my issue with that is that the testimony is not, does not meet the the requirements under the law to be able to declare her a federal elections whistleblower. And the reason for that is that while she. commissioned the taking of the images she did not take the images she did not analyze the images she did not write the report she did not peer review the report she's not an expert on the matter of elections

technology in such a way that she would be a material witness all of those things what did they find in the what like the findings in the report and how you get there and analyzing them those the material witness is the people that that wrote the reports or the people that peer reviewed the reports. That's personal firsthand knowledge that would be admissible in a court of law. Tina Peters would not be allowed to testify about the findings of the Mesa County reports in a court of law because that is by definition hearsay. And I've said that since the whole federal whistleblower thing came down and I took some shit for it. And that being said, when it comes to weaponization of government, she absolutely is a material witness. She has personal firsthand knowledge about how

the government was weaponized against her because of her beliefs. And this brings me back to, I can't believe they're saying these things out loud. Because in every one of these statements, the reason they're so mad at Jared Pullis, and everybody is really mad at Jared Poulis. The reason that they are so mad at Jared Poulis is because of her beliefs. They are reinforced. The people that are criticizing this move are reinforcing her sentence being vacated. They're reinforcing what the federal court said in the habeas.

They denied the habeas. but they said there's real concerns from a First Amendment standpoint here. It is obvious that she was persecuted for wrong thing. These demons are advocating for content-based restrictions on the First Amendment. Listen, everybody has free speech, and that's super important. But election denialism is a threat to democracy, and it's really dangerous. And so we have to stop Tina Peters from being able to talk about election. let's keep her in prison for nine years.

And they're actually saying these things out loud, which I find astounding. Also, by the way, in my court, in my court, I don't have a court. In the court that I was in. Oh, in her court. Oh. Federal district court of Colorado, the First Amendment also came up. They said that they were prosecuting us for, you know, bringing us in for liability for intimidation, coercion and threats,

voter suppression, intimidation, coercion, and threats under the VRA and the KKK Act. What they actually tried, the evidence they brought that tried to bring, the things that they tried to bring, was our speech. It was our ideas. It was my blog posts and Holly's memes and Sean's statements on stage events.

It had nothing to do with the actual substance of the underlying allegations against us. And that's a big part of why they lost at halftime, and we didn't even have to bring our defensive case in chief because the process is the punishment and the purpose was to do an end run around the First Amendment. Mark Elias is out there having an absolute connoption fit about this. He's having a rough month. So he lost the VRA section two. He's already had the section 11B. That's the one that I was tried under gutted. And now Tina Peters is out. And the Atlantic put an article out last week.

the election deniers are winning. It is, by the way, my new favorite response meme. Anytime anybody's bitching about this, I just throw the election deniers are winning, headline from the Atlantic into their comments. Yeah. But the reality is that the government was weaponized against Americans

because they held the wrong beliefs about elections and really because they wanted to punish President Trump. They wanted to oppose, wanted to support President Trump is why they were punished because the people punishing them wanted to punish anybody that supported President Trump.

Shame them, shame them, shame them. And it worked with Tina Peters. When it comes to Tina Peters, there are clerks around the countries that will say, I don't want to be Tina Petered. I can't do that. I don't want them to Tina Peter me.

That was the goal. That in changing the law, which they also did, they'll say she unlawfully took images. Jared Polis said that on CNN, and he was correcting Caitlin Collins at the time that he said it. And he was correcting Caitlin Collins and saying that she took images related.

She took unlawful images related to the 2020 election. And Jared Polis said, well, she actually, she didn't take, she wasn't convicted of anything having to do with the 2020 election. She was convicted of taking images because of the April municipal election. And I'm like, well, I need to correct Jared Polis, correcting Caitlin Collins. She wasn't convicted for taking the images at all. Wasn't in the charges. wasn't a part of the indictment.

And that was by design, because they didn't want her to be able to defend against that. Because if they did that, then she'd be able to say why she did what she did and get evidence of election fraud in court. So they guardrailed this thing. Gate kept it in such a way that it was the single misrepresentation formed the substance. That single misrepresentation that Conan Hayes was Jerry Wood made to three people, three felonies, and the conspiracy to commit the same, the fourth felony. That's eight years and three months of her nine-year sentence. this is not about elections. This case was never about elections.

But the narrative that it is about elections was really fun for people. So just to quickly go through, I asked her what her priorities are. Number one priority is seeing her mother. Her mother is 97 years old and she misses her very much and she's very worried about her. And I'm sure her mother is very worried about Tina as well. I'm sure that reunion is going to be amazing. That is her top priority. Her second priority is getting her health back.

So she's pretty thin. She does have a bit of a donut around her waist, and she claims that everything is either sodium or sugar. It's salt or sugar in there. There's no fresh food. I said, well, what do you miss the most? She said, I want a big, thick, juicy steak, and I want a salad with real tomatoes and avocados. She hasn't had fresh food. And by the time she gets out, I think it'll be 17 or 18 months.

Jeez. Or 20, actually. I look this. I'll be 20 months at the time, like June 1st, be 20 months. that she, um, that she has been in there and hasn't had fresh, fresh food. She says sometimes they get apples and bananas, but in terms of like, you know, roughage and eating healthy and all, you can't do it. You're getting, you're getting, you know, whatever is, is given in the calories. It's poison. Yeah. It's, well, I mean, it feels like poisoning. So the, the steak and rebuilding her health,

getting her muscle mass back, kind of getting, you know, better sleep. She told me the, the, the first time that she slept since she's been in there, like really actually slept. got like rest was Friday night after the clemency grant came down wow yeah yeah yeah and then finally oh go ahead she was just saying she's been like like on edge until it happened and then finally she can archially relax yeah yeah no it was it was great to hear and then um you can see her her her pup minka up in the top um there her her dog was going around a viral post of her dog saying she missed her mom and I asked her about Minka and she said I want to see Minka so bad but I will not see her until I am certain I'm not leaving her again.

Oh, which I can vibe with that. Totally understand that. Yeah. Okay. Let's see if there's anything else on this story. If you want to get it. So if folks are just catching up on the Tina Peter story, the last article which I put out on Friday was there.

So it's the grant of clemency. like if we go in here and look at this, you can see that there is the actual grant of clemency in here. There is Tina Peters official statement. I have Jenna Griswold's official statement. I have the election deniers are winning. Again, my favorite. Matt Crane of the Colorado County Clerks Association. I have links to both of those full statements.

All of the things on that article. And then in the article that I published this morning, morning that one's linked to. But I just kind of recapped basically what I what I told you guys just now, all of those things. Really happy for her. There is there there is a lot more to this story. And I'll end this segment with this.

There's a lot of noise this weekend that Tina Peters was forced, coerced, tricked into or made to issue her statement of contrition. She says, and I'll just read the objectionable bit, because people are pretty mad about it. Some people are out there calling this a loss, which I just find astounding. What? She said, yep, she said, I made mistakes, and for those I am sorry, five years ago, I misled the Secretary of State when allowing a person to gain access to county voting equipment. That was wrong. I have learned and grown during my time in prison and going forward, I will make sure that my actions always follow the law, and I will avoid the mistakes of the past.

So people are taking exception with this statement, and that goes back to the Tina Peters did nothing wrong people, right? That's been, that's, I get a lot of shit from those people too, because you can't say Tina Peters did nothing wrong. The thing that she did wrong was stipulated to in her trial. She said, yep, I did that before the trial even started. And she did, so they didn't have to prosecute it. She didn't have to defend against it. It was just a found fact already that she misled the secretary. of state's office and Mesa County local IT people about or local government people about

Conan Hayes is Jerry Wood. Jerry Wood is Conan Hayes. Finkel, I know. I know. I was like Brian will come in with it. I love that you went there too. That's actually a movie I've actually seen. So that's good. I get the reference.

So that's the, that is the convicting detail of, the attempt to influence public official. The convicting detail was stipulated to was not a part of the trial, which is why I call this a show trial. But you cannot say that she did nothing wrong. You can say morally I'm fine with what she did wrong, and I don't think it's actually wrong in context. From a black and white letter of the law standpoint,

misleading a public official in that capacity is a violation of the law. She did that. She stipulated to it, meaning admitted, right? Like it was this profound fact already in the case. already in the case. And so the, so in here she says that was wrong. And people are taking a lot of exception with that. Now I asked her about this because that started immediately on Friday where people were like,

this is a loss. I can't believe that you did this. Um, so I asked her about it. Uh, did you do, you know, was this, did you even read this statement? Like, was this you? Um, and, you know, were you forced to say something that you weren't, uh, you know, weren't, weren't comfortable saying. She told me, and this, and here's the thing, too, I've spoken to Tina Peters on the phone

several times now, in the run up to this. She has expressed the same sentiment to me in those phone calls that she has had a lot of time to think. She has looked back on her actions and the way that this went down. And that if she had it to do over again, she would do things differently. She's already told me that in the run up to way before this statement is issued. also important. She is not saying that it was wrong to take the images. She's not saying that it was wrong to preserve the election records or to hold the beliefs that she holds. She's saying it was wrong to mislead the Secretary of State. That is the eight years and three months of her sentence. And she does, she would do things differently if she had them to do over again. That doesn't mean she wouldn't take the images. It means that the miss, the thing that got her eight years and three months, she might not do. right so people are you know big mad about her issuing a statement of contrition i can't imagine

making a case that tina peters should stay in prison because of some ideologically pure position that you have from behind your fucking keyboard but um you know here we are people are people are stupid what are you gonna do yeah right i all right i don't know yeah free tina and she's going to be freed in how many days now uh 13 I think. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it is good news. It is a, it is a great development.

And she is coming out with a renewed and continued focus on election integrity and a new cause of prison reform and making sure that people understand the conditions inside of the prison. She's talked about black mold. She's talked about, you know, expired moldy food and the food quality generally, issues with the water, issues with the ventilation systems. There's all sorts. And then, you know,

pay for play and corruption within the ecosystem inside of the prison. Notably, the DOJ is investigating Colorado Department of Corrections for their prison system broadly. There's a lot of kind of grand rico slash devo type of proofs surrounding the state of Colorado, which I am here for, because I have been saying Rocky Mountain Showdown is the final battle. I've been saying that since like November of 2024. So it's happening. I like it. I'm here for it. I'll set up bleachers. We sell popcorn.

Christy, you'll come out and help me canvas. Then we'll ditch Brian and we'll go watch the Rocky Mountain Showdown. Jackie, you can come to. Yes. Sweet. All right. So we have, we did one with cats. I'm going to just read these rants really quickly.

And then we can go to whatever topics you guys. Christy, I think you have some hacks for us. Before we get to those, Denise Anto says, Christy, I also still mostly use Pandora. Why is it getting so much hate, L.O.L. Because I don't listen to any new music unless it's from George straight. Okay, I tried super hard to do this on the website, but it would not let me pay for it. So unfortunately, I'm having to use Apple Pay, which I did not want to do.

Anyone know how to fix it testing, testing. So I did. I explained to her how to use, if anybody is having that issue, what you can do is on your browser on your phone, open the show and go to the chat there. If you decide that you want to send in a Rumble rant, do it there and you can put in a card instead of using Apple Pay. The only thing is that with with the app, we love the Rumble app. It's a little clunky right now and they're working on it, hopefully. And the only option that it gives you on the Rumble app is to use Apple Pay if you have an iPhone. So go into your browser, open the chat there, and

send in your rant and you can use a card. So it'll take less money out. Yeah, because Apple Pay takes a chunk. It takes 50% and then Rumble only takes 20%. So that's the big percentage. Yeah, okay. Denise, I'd love for you. One with Katz says, Love Ash reading of the Apple Pay Rance.

That was fun. It was very stream of consciousness. That was fun. Thank you. Denise Ann, and One with Katz for the rants. We have one more, Denise Ann too. Ash, anyone who wants to discuss the Tina Peters case needs to interview Ashford. So many people are getting so many key elements of her case wrong. This is actually

my cause at this point is the fact that everybody is everybody misunderstands this case and a lot of the mouthpieces lie. I mean, I would in short hand say everybody lies about Tina Peters, but I don't know that I can say, you know, lie involves intent. And I think a lot of people are just stupid and haven't done the in-depth work. They haven't read the pleadings. They didn't watch the trial. They didn't, they don't understand the players. And that is a lane that I've tried to occupy because I do know the players. And I, and I have lived this along. I was there for a lot of what happened to Tina Peters.

I was actually the personal firsthand knowledge of the things that happened to her. And there's, it's a war of stories, as Burning Bright says. And the stories around this case have been significant. and everybody's cherry-picking pieces and parts that they want to talk about. The biggest example of that is making it about elections, right? Like it's, oh, well, you know, she was saving an election. Oh, she was trying to meddle in an election. No, she was preserving records of prior elections.

There was no impending election. She wasn't trying to meddle in anything. She was trying to do her statutory duty to preserve records. The manner in which she did that was flawed. She has lessons learned from it. and that's that's that's that's the thing but for people to be so attached to the headline doesn't matter which one it is the she's a hero she did nothing wrong headline or the she's a threat to democracy she tried to meddle with and tamper in elections both of them are wrong and miss the the key substance here and i think that's by design to get back to denise's point about people getting points wrong i'm not saying that everybody that's getting points wrong is doing that on perfect But the stories that they believe were absolutely issued on purpose to make people have an emotional reaction. Particularly the threat to democracy narratives were laid out there to make people have emotional outrage that Trump's supporters in the wake of 2020 were trying to destroy democracy because Trump didn't win.

And it's not just Tina Peters. She was a big one, certainly in the state of Colorado that was a big narrative setter, gave him the, ability to change the law and to go after other groups like us and like the timing of that man same month like it's crazy how many overlays same villains same timeline same tactics different forums civil versus criminal court all these things but but that was done very in my opinion very intentionally in a war of stories kind of way to weaponize the public mind against tina peters and people will justify atrocities against her because they have believed those headlines and those headlines were always bullshit. And in my opinion, the people that wrote those headlines knew that they were bullshit when they wrote them and they put them out anyway with the intention of making people believe false things so they could weaponize their outrage. That's a problem.

Now, that's not necessarily weaponization of government, except the core narrative came from government. The actions came from government. The interviews on the media were largely with people like Jenna Griswold, Christopher Perry Beale, kind of slunk away in the middle of the night. Yeah. So, in my opinion, it's egregious, and it's why I have covered this case since August of 2021. I noticed this right away. In August of 2021, at the Cyber Symposium, Tina Peters office was rated.

It was being rated while we were at the Cyber Symposium. And the message that came out of Jenna Griswold's office was that she had stolen passwords and leaked them in an effort to, you know, give people access to the election systems. That was never true. And I was screaming into the void in a lot of ways back then. Up until recently, I've been screaming into the void on this. I'll tell you what. Most shocking thing about me, about this for me, is that Jared Polis has adopted my position on a matter of Tina Peters. So he's trying to ride the fence a little bit.

He says, oh, this doesn't have anything to do with the underlying conviction, which is a good thing because she is still appealing. I didn't put that in the article and I wasn't going to say it because that's kind of newsbreaking and I'm not supposed to news break. But her attorney said it on Emerald Robinson's show today. So I feel like I can say it now that they are still appealing the criminal conviction to first to the Colorado Supreme Court, then to the U.S. Supreme Court. And of course, if a Republican governor came in, which is a long shot in our governor's race is an absolute shit show. but if a Republican governor came in, they could pardon her. And that's important, right?

She can't run for office. There's a bunch of things she can't do as a felon. So Jared Polis left that lane open. But yeah, it's been, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been insane. Spetzel says, I've seen a few people who claim to be Tina's friends and even attended the trial,

make false claims that are nearly as bad as the other side. Everybody lies about Tina Peters. They're in service of their own narratives. And that's one thing that she herself, told me about is that there are people grifting, talking about her case, talking about her story, and then sending fundraising requests to their own sites, as opposed to sending fundraising, sending fundraising, sending fund, sending all funds to tina peters.us, which is the only place to donate if you want to support tina peters. That is actually her, her fund, her legal tina peters.us.

but there's there's there's there's a good amount of that going around and there's I would I would expect that when she's finally out she's going to say some of those things out loud so it will it'll it'll be interesting there's a lot to come we have about two weeks until she is free and there will be a lot more written said shared uh in the future on this so folks can stay tuned it's going to It is. It is. And so you know what? That was our history update because that happened this week and that is history.

Yeah. Yeah. Now I have that show without playing it. All right, Christy, bring us home with hacks. All right. So this is, these are like pill swallowing hacks and crazy kind of things that I've randomly stumbled upon and then realize that there are actually things that other people know about as well. So now you can know about them too. So the first one is how to swallow pills, like the capsule pills that have powder inside,

not like your ibuprofen tablet or whatever. So. The gel capsules. Yes. Or, yeah, anything that's filled because they float, which you will see here. So you're going to put the pill on your tongue. Take a gulp of water, but don't swallow. Put your head down and swallow.

have trouble swallowing pills, this is an easy hack that actually works. The reason it works is the pill will float to the top of the water, which will be at the back of your throat. So when you actually swallow, it will be much easier. Okay. And that, I do that all the time. Like, it, it's my favorite thing to tell people about, um, about taking pills. But I have a few other interesting ones that I found. My favorite thing too, because I struggled as a child. Like my mom would like, it would, like, it would It was like a mission and a half. She's like, just take the ibuprofen. I'm like, I can't do it, mom.

I can't do it. And, yeah, I learned this hack probably like a few years ago. And I was like, oh, shit, like this changes. This is a game changer. Right. Well, and then the opposite is true with the other kind of pills, the ones that are like, I don't know, using, they use pressure to create them or whatever. If you lean your head back when you swallow those, they sink. So it's going to sink towards the back of your throat.

So when you swallow it's going to go down. really easy too. Fantastic. I'm going to have to go back and look at what what Brian. We're like many seconds left in the show. So pick your best pick a pick a pick your best hack. Okay. I got it. It's here until I was in my 30s. The child safety caps can be easily removed for adult convenience. Push up. And so we have our vitamins here and you just push down and you can take the top off really easily. But if we lock it on here, and you're spinning it and you just want to push and just pull it off. Look at that.

Now we can take the top off and now you have a much easier removable top. It actually works. How crazy is that? That's awesome. I do the after the show. Trying immediately. I'm trying that immediately. No, that was so much of small children to guard against.

Brian said I need to be deep Maybe take less pills It's always one Well yeah Always one This is like a John Drake thing I was talking to him

What was I talking about? Oh I said I had sort of a spooner take On prison reform on the radio And he's like what was your spooner take And I'm like well okay I'm not sure it's an actual spooner take Like it's a shorthand So I told him my take

And then he's like No I think that's pretty consistent With Spooner of course you could say that the entire system is illegitimate and you don't have to have any which is kind of the same vibe I'm getting from Anita here well thanks let's just

da da da da da five all right everybody do you have one more or are we done? I have we could we could do some more next week I know that we're kind of at our yeah we'll do we'll do more of it next week everybody please hit the like button it helps us out quite a bit We certainly do appreciate it. And we'll be back here next Monday at 3 p.m. Eastern time.

Same channel. Same beautiful faces. Hopefully the same chat because you guys were fun today. And I think did we do? I think there was one more. Your photo challenges. One with Kat said I never used Apple Pay. I guess that's a good thing.

I'm also adverse to apps in general. So I just use the browser for Rumble. Well done. And we appreciate you so much. always so supportive. And yeah, all right. That's the show we have for you guys today. Have a great week, and we'll see you next time.

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