Badlands Media - America First Stories Ep. 18: Nathanael Madden

Episode Date: October 5, 2026

Jon Herold gets into Nathanael Madden on his father, a health crisis and his brother, Nathanael on Emerald Med's origin and hemp's 1930s economy and on why lobbyists pushed the hemp ban in the CR, wit...h plenty of commentary along the way. Also on the docket: Nathanael Madden on Emerald Med's hemp oil, balm and gummies. Grab a coffee and settle in.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The badlands, you're out of the badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of their name. Through the Devolution Power Hour, as you can see our fearless leader, John Harold, is unavailable tonight. He is otherwise occupied, although, although, wait, well, now I've already blown it. So if it was going to be a surprise drop in at some point, I have already ruined that. that surprise by considering whether or not I should tell everybody that there might be a surprise dropping. So there will not be a surprise drop in, but there may be just a normal drop in by John Harold. And as you can see in John's absence, we are joined by the one and only Burning Bright.
Starting point is 00:00:49 And how are you doing Burning Bright? Do you feel better when I give you a nice normal introduction as opposed to John's very mean introduction. I just feel better in general with you on the show, Chris. I was feeling pretty good. And then you're like, my subversion of the show, I am now to believe could itself be subverted, which would be a double subversion. Ah, if John shows up, you mean?
Starting point is 00:01:19 If he does. Yeah, that's just going to come apart for you at that point. Yeah, I have to live with sort of just like the dread, just bubble. underneath the surface. I feel like you almost said welcome to Badland Story Hour, which is pretty much what this will be. It's just the movie will be the things we are told about in the news. The movie of all our lives, I guess. You know, I was thinking earlier in the week, and we don't have to have a long conversation about this or anything, but you're the perfect
Starting point is 00:01:47 person I talk about this with. So I was thinking earlier in the week how, let me see how I wrote it. I made a little note to myself. I always make notes to myself when I have, when I have little thoughts. Oh, yeah, just my note was spoiling the movie on purpose. And, and I actually appreciate the people out there who are just like, you're watching a movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Fine. Okay, I totally get it. I think all of it is bullshit. I think we are being shown a scripted, like television show, a reality show from 50 different angles with different viewpoints and the rest of it. of it so that no matter which thing is your thing out of those 50 things that you are willing to watch, that you're willing to engage with online or whatever, you're going to get ultimately
Starting point is 00:02:36 the underlying claims that have to be believed by everybody, no matter which of those angles you're approaching the story. And so if you're going to believe it's scripted, if you think that these things are being laid out like this and that a lot of what we're seeing is just a translation layer for something else or a layer of. an attempt to obscure what else is going on in the background, but that what we're watching is ultimately a performance. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Okay, I get it. You're watching a movie. Good. Okay. So if we all agree that that's the case, then it's just like, well, how should we operate in relation to the fact that we're watching a movie? Should we talk about it as though it's real?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Right. Or should we talk about it as though it's a movie? And you and I and many of our compatriots in this whole cause, we'll talk about it as though it's a movie because that's what the real thing is. And so we are trying to engage with the real thing and accept it for what it is rather than saying, hey, this is a movie, everything is under control.
Starting point is 00:03:47 But also, you should be mad at this person for doing this and this person for doing this. And we're going to go get, We're going to go punish these bad guys and the rest of it. So I feel like you have to pick a lane. I'm glad you ended it that way, and I figured you would because it's kind of a strange irony where, you know, the movie rhetoric within the so-called truth community info war space is ubiquitous, as is the nothing can stop what's coming sort of full control, right?
Starting point is 00:04:20 These are synonymous readings. their parallel readings of the board. The irony is, to your point, we often get demonized by those people for not trusting the plan, but we're the ones most consistently calling the events we are told about in the central narrative fake on some order, right?
Starting point is 00:04:44 And it's kind of like, we most consistently say it's fake, meaning scripted on some level, and we obviously have a very kind of varied, nuanced takes on what that means. You know, I've often used the refrain of a live role-playing game, like an RPG role-play. I think you and I were talking about this in the chat yesterday the day before. You were talking about something, and I made a reference to dungeon masters. I used to play Dungeons and Dragons.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And like Donald Trump as the Dungeon Master, the Dungeon Master does not control everything that happens in a game. of Dungeons and Dragons, but ultimately he has control over the game that is happening. He controls the... For anybody who hasn't played D&D, like they might kind of wonder what the point of it is and why do nerds get so into it. If you actually have like a good dungeon master who is a good storyteller, D&D can be really fun as a game because it's this thing where the players, You have agency, you make choices, the dungeon master sort of lays out the story in front of you, tells you where you can and can't go. It's like the barriers in a video game, but you've got a person who's kind of setting those barriers.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And, you know, you can kind of screw with what the dungeon master had planned for you maybe by going into a room that he didn't expect you to go into. But if you have kind of a shitty dungeon master, they can just throw a dragon at you and there's nothing you could really do about it, right? Well, I kind of- I think anybody can ever do if someone throws a dragon at you. Exactly. And Trump, I feel like, is doing a lot of this, right?
Starting point is 00:06:25 He's kind of like, you know, that's why the movie reading and think of things is even more nuanced where it's not so much that every single thing we're looking at is scripted, in my opinion, in my reading of it. It's more that there are these players moving about the White House, moving about the American political landscape, even moving about. the geopolitical landscape as if they normally would you use the playpen analogy a lot and trump kind of is the one ultimately controlling the boundaries of where they can go uh maybe that's a military operation on a physical actual level or legal level but on a narrative level what you and i talk
Starting point is 00:07:07 about the most i do think donald trump is basically the one leading people down narrative pathways and then cutting off escapes and that seems like what he's doing but to to finish that point, it is the irony where I'm like, man, the people that seem to dislike us the most are the people that do movie, nothing can stop what's coming commentary. But I would say our reading of what's actually going on is closer to that than they're reading because we're not very worried about the midterms. And they seem to think that the movie is complicit or whatever word I'm looking for, commesurate on, or predicated on us. doing very specific things so that the movie goes the way that they say the movie's already going
Starting point is 00:07:54 to go. Yeah, like it's a Rocky Horror Picture Show or something. That part of it is particularly crazy to believe that it's all a scripted movie and that it's all playing out and that it can only play out this way. And that also people have to go and do these things which many of them know to be meaningless in order to make sure that the plan or works and you know just to i don't want to belabor the the voting thing at all and we also probably need to get in some opening ads and stuff but um but uh i i i said this on my show i think probably in 2024 because and i brought it up again today because somebody hit me on truth social and they were like they were like i think i'm just too old to fully get on board with what you're saying i've been
Starting point is 00:08:45 i like i know i know you're right but I've been voting for 55 years and I just like I'm scared to stop. Like this is something I have to do. And I said by all means, do whatever you want to do. And then I was like, wait a second. I used to talk about this a couple of years ago. Why don't people just go vote if they want to vote while also talking about how our elections are fake? Like if you think that there is a real effect to be made at the polling place, go make your effect.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Okay. I don't think that that's that that the effect is what you think it is. In fact, I think it's a negative effect on a positive effect, but I'm not going to tell you what to do. I will say that the important thing is that everybody knows there is a big, big problem in our election system. And if you want to have a country, that is the, what we were told was our birthright, that country, not the system we have now. We still have a lovely country, by the way. We still have lots of good things here, lots of good people, the American spirit, the American innovation, the American kind of founding mythology that drives us and kind of sparks that fire of Americanness in us.
Starting point is 00:10:01 All of that is wonderful. But if you want to have that in the country, you were told you have and have an influence on the direction your country's headed, well, then everybody needs to know what the election system is so that we can get together and fix it. Because it's not going to get fixed if 10 people understand what's really going on. And then a solution comes from the worst people in the world. And then we're all just like, well, the problem's got to get solved. So this solves a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Here we go. And then he's got 50 more years of fake elections. Yeah. And even beyond the election point, obviously that sucks up all the mass psychological energy in the zeitgeist. Although I'm increasingly of the belief. and a positive belief that even that gravitational pull of election cycles, specifically midterms, is definitely relegated more to an inside baseball audience that follows this kind of stuff, terminally online people, info war people, politico people, all that kind of stuff,
Starting point is 00:11:06 besides the political establishment itself, obviously. I do not get the impression, even though I don't interact with a lot of normies. I do not get the impression when I do interact with a lot of Normies that the gravitational pull of the midterms is existent in almost any way. Now, a presidential election, especially involving Donald Trump or in the age of Trump, sure, like that's everywhere. You can see that in Normieville. People talk about it at the cookout. People talk about it on Sunday watching the game. The midterms, I mean, I'm sure my parents are going to. vote in them, but I just hung out with them yesterday. And obviously, we're, you know, politically opposed, but we have no problem talking about this stuff. Doesn't come up. They don't talk about it. They don't
Starting point is 00:11:54 think about it. It doesn't matter to them in any way. And this kind of goes to a point that I think ghost has been making in recent weeks in our Badlands chat, which is that ironically, in this reading of things, you could argue that many normies are accidentally further ahead than many people. people who believe they are further ahead than those normies, not necessarily because the normies understand everything that's going on, but more so because a lot of them have stopped trying to understand what's going on in the context of what is obviously to some of us a humiliation ritual surrounding Congress and this drama. I don't apply that to Donald Trump, although going back to the dungeon master analogy, I'll talk about this much more.
Starting point is 00:12:44 in depth tomorrow night i'm going to have john drake on the narrative for a show we've been planning for a little while called the maga king um but similar concept that you've been talking about for years trump engineering a trustless society etc in this dungeon master analogy if the end goal is actually to return power to the people that's got to start with a mental or mass psychological change and you could make an argument that that change is actually occurring in the normal mind at a more rapid pace than it is in the truther mind. In other words, the truther mind is some of them, not all of them, have become so attached to the drama of politics that the very, that they've become the very thing that they were fighting against with the political
Starting point is 00:13:32 establishment, but now they're buoying up the political establishment by having conversations about John Toon and what he plans to do. I don't even know if I pronounce his name right, Nor do I care. I think it's Thune. Thune. Okay. That guy. Like anybody, we shouldn't know anybody's name in Congress, in my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But anyway, we do now, and we talk about them a lot. But normal people don't. And I think we used to talk about the normal people. Like, can you believe they don't even know which congressman is serving their district? And now I'm more like, can you believe people talk about the congressmen serving their district? So it all depends on what you think Trump is trying to do here, I guess. Uh, yeah. Um, man, you said something in there before we got off track there for a second. Oh, man. That the normies are further had by. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, I think that might be right. I think
Starting point is 00:14:28 that might be right. I think that they had to deal with the whole Biden thing. And that kind of hit them repeatedly in the face like over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. And really softened that whole thing up. I always think that the real divide is people who have had to admit that they really got a whole lot of things wrong in their lives. I am so confused why people are still so unwilling to just be like, you know what? We know that they ran this mass conditioning propaganda program for our entire lives. Like if you're a boomer, you got the biggest dose of it and you've been getting it for longest. And you know, some boomers are very based and very awake. But the fact remains like that's, you know, 60, 70, 80 years of nonstop
Starting point is 00:15:27 siops and bullshit. And if you can't at some point say, hey, we were all subjected to like military grade conditioning and programming from the moment we were born. And that has kind of reversed a bunch of things in our world and let us in the wrong direction down all these different avenues. If you can't say that and be like, hey, we all experience this, right? I mean, yes, I know, hashtag not all people were conditioned, but that was a harder hashtag to pull off the normal. But, uh, but, uh, This is a common experience. And for people out there to act like they weren't subjected to that, if you haven't kind of reckoned with that and tried to reconcile all of those beliefs that were conditioned into, I don't know what you're doing by paying attention to any of this stuff and avoiding that experience at all costs. That's the experience that everyone has to have. That's the important one. Yeah. And again, to me, it's the age of Trump in many ways.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Again, I'm thinking about this dungeon master analogy. It's like we go back to the 2017 speech that is threaded throughout the intro to this show in particular. And just pretend we're taking Trump at his word, which I do on the macro. Returning power back to the people. This is a transition of power. Peaceful transition of power. you often call Trump the Tribune of the people. I very strongly believe that.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It just depends on what you think he's doing, what you think his end goal is. I don't know if I said this on Story Hour, maybe it was DPA, I can't keep it straight. But recently I've been thinking of the term victory conditions a lot in my own minds and kind of as applied to like the larger battle space. And part of this is because of the emotion, not even saying on one side or the other of the midterms,
Starting point is 00:17:32 but just how emotional people get about stuff like this and that whatever you think we should do, whether you think we should vote super hard or that that's a humiliation ritual. If you are emotionally pulled into this every two years now, and really it's more than every two years, it's like six months before and a couple months after, right? It's like, man, they do off your elections and then Scott Pressler finds like a Supreme Court justice in Iowa or something to, go dance around for? I don't know. It's literally like, you know, sports seasons where there's people that are like terminal sports fans that, and I'm a sports fan, but people that are like, oh, how's spring training going? It's like, dude, stop. Stop. Stop talking about spring training, man.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Like, they're going to throw a ball around. Now they have the WMBA. Yep. So it's just like, you know, the Chappelle meme. And we all have the friend that's like that. You know, we've been that way in certain walks of life. I used to be that way about fights. I still work in the fight industry for a living. And I like don't know half the people fighting because I'm like, stop. Don't worry about it. When this guy becomes important, then you'll know who he is. Don't think about it right now. And I know people have fun with it, but it's that kind of thing where it's like the guy at the cookout is telling you about like the third round draft pick like in 2027 and whatever. It's like, dude, relax. It's not that big of a deal. Just like pay a little bit of
Starting point is 00:19:00 attention to it if you want to. Hockey season's back. It's exciting. We'll all kind of stop paying attention to it halfway through, and then the playoffs will be here, we'll be happy again. But people do that with politics, and the crossover in attitude and behavior of people following sports the way they do and people following politics used to be, I feel like a thing that the so-called truth community talked about very openly of how dramatic it had become. And I really feel like one of the things Trump has done is drawn attention to that and been
Starting point is 00:19:29 like this is a big drama farming sort of thing. And Trump's the best at doing that. It just depends on if you think he's trying to perpetuate that system or expose it. Yeah. Okay, cool. So we're going to probably come back around to that last point about Trump's awareness of what he's doing with all this as we go through the time interview. But I think that we do have some ads to get to top, right? We are first brought to you, uh, prime show.
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Starting point is 00:21:54 But that's the cat pee business. Well, it's how the cat pee interacts with how the clay is treated. So it's basically a big chemical concoction that you just don't want going on. Doesn't cat pee like make you crazy? Isn't that scratches, I believe. And yeah, there's something. There's this urban legend that Brazilians, the reason Brazilians are so feisty in general is that an abnormal percentage of them have cat scratch fever.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And I kind of want chat to fact check me on that. But if I'm wrong, please say nothing about it. Because it will completely shatter my illusions. This has gotten so weird. That's why such a high number of them are great UFC fighters, is what I think. What's going on there? I think that's probably a connection that could be made. I'm not sure it's a correct one, but I'm sure you can make it.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Okay, so, so before we get into, before we get into the time article, there are a couple of things, and I feel bad for the people who would have watched Badlands Daily yesterday because Cancon and I talked about a couple of these things. You and I have not talked about these videos yet. And so I want to get some feedback on what you think. I think that I posted them in our Badlands chat on telegrams and might have watched them. But we have, and discuss them. And then there's also, I just also want to have an incredible laugh at this because I took my time and made these clips the other night and I've had no opportunity to laugh about them. Look at this. Are you able to? This is, I don't know if it's true, but that's the story that I got from BB. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Actually, you know what? Let's make sure that we get that on the record correctly. I bet people would be like, wait, what was that? This is the story that I heard. I don't know if it's true, but that's the story that I got from BB. So this is the story that I heard. I don't know if it's true, but it's the story I got from BB. Now, that's after he did this really.
Starting point is 00:24:18 like over the top. Actually, you know what? I can just find the longer clip. It's, it's amazing. I feel like John's going to hit me with that clip often or he's going to hit you with that clip. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:30 That's what I was thinking. I had to think. I had to thought of that. Hey, John, clip that. Let's make sure we didn't, let's make sure we don't miss out on the opportunity for John to, to do that to you over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Um, and as I say that in a mildly creepy way, It also occurs to me that the whole time that you kept saying dungeon master over and over again, I was like this sounds like the guy that keeps the gimp locked in like the cell downstairs. Pulp fiction style. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It is kind of weird. Let me make sure that this is the right video.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I had thrown it in the old digital garbage the other day. Nope, see, I was just about to play the wrong video. That would have sucked for everybody. But the good thing is it doesn't have to. Here is the right video, hopefully. I really feel good about this one. I think. Ah, I'm messing it all up.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Maybe. Let's see. Now, this is the story that I heard. Ah, that's the same clip. See, I ended up making like four different clips. And if you're at home watching us for the first, time thinking, well, that's not very professional. I can't argue. It's harder than it looks. It is. Yeah, but that's not exactly the problem right now that it's too hard. I will say John's
Starting point is 00:26:03 John's like console here that I'm currently wielding. There are so many things in it that it bothers me a lot. I get it. I'm the type that like deletes something I'm not using in that moment. And re-downloads it because i'm that i want to know where everything is at all times that um the extreme yeah that sounds like uh i mean you're you know a little re neurotic every now and again yes yeah it's it's all right okay so i i guess the the truth is that i'm never going to find this and but the uh the uh the point is trump was giving a very he was gesticul doing like the anybody pulls up on the lever oh yeah with the uh with the yeah yeah yeah about the the jewish plumber who saved the plane from certain death and you know
Starting point is 00:27:02 everybody's done their internet videos about how this was a false false flag and the rest of it but trump just straight up says there this is this is the story i got i have no idea whether it's true but this is what this is what i got in from bb and i mean we might as well keep that in the back of the mind too as we go through this time article because he mentions in there as well that that he's getting certain information in from bb regarding you know i i always want everything to flow naturally and now i realize that i'm about to shoot right to like three quarters of the way down that time article but trump trump told the time reporter that he is just hearing now for the first time
Starting point is 00:27:48 that BB was alerted about the possible operation that became the paragliding go-card incident. He just heard for the first time this week that BB had heard that. That sounds impossible for him just heard. Yeah, that whole thing. I mean, it's a good preview for that. I mean, we might end up almost just going through that whole article
Starting point is 00:28:07 because it's shocked full of stuff. But even that point, made. It's, you know, we've been talking recently, John and I in particular on the Wednesday DPH, have been talking about the wrap-up smear thing. We talked about this in Vegas on the panel with the three of us. And, you know, usually when people talk about it in this world, they're talking about it in that Nancy Pelosi framing of talking about laundered media stories, which is true. But it's kind of interesting to think of how Trump uses that. It's like he plants himself right in the middle of a wrap-up smear and then ruins it on both sides or takes control of it.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And you often talk about this in terms of like how he adopts one position. And then he kind of shifts and adopts another one. And you got to look at that whole thing with the Jewish plumber and that whole sciop. And more particularly in this framing, Trump's framing of it and his cartoonish, like exuberant display of what was going on. And then to rug pull it at the end, by being like, I don't know, I just heard that, but it may or may not be true.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And yet he commits so heavily to the telling of the telling of BB's telling of what may or may not have happened, that not only is it funny and just goofy, but I like to think of it as a humiliation ritual first on the media that's asking him about these things, because it's kind of like Trump just doing this very earnest, ridiculous, portrayal of something so that they can write stories about it. But on a more subversive, when I say subversive, I mean in a good way. On a more subversive level, I do like to think of these things as something was, maybe something was going to happen, like in this script reading of things. And I don't think a Jewish plumber stopped it. But I like to think that sometimes what we're looking at is these super cartoonish narratives that Trump ends up translating to everybody.
Starting point is 00:30:17 They were in the deep state script as like absolutely horrible nightmares. Yes. And not only are they disarmed on an actual level, but then Trump and the writers room turns them into a cartoon. And they're like, hey, BB or whoever, you know how you were going to do that plain thing? and you had it scripted for this date, well, we're going to do a version of that, but it's going to be so ridiculous that now you, B.B. Netanyahu, is going to have to be answering press questions about this as if it really happened
Starting point is 00:30:53 for the next couple of weeks. Yeah, that's, yeah, 100%. I think you can trace that pattern back in Trump's behavior a few years. I mean, that's like a false start, really. He knows a scripted event is coming. And so he begins to cede a counter narrative on that scripted event. And it doesn't even have to necessarily be a counter narrative. It's just decontextualizing the planned context of that script.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I mean, maybe you've seen this sort of thing before because sometimes people on the internet will edit videos to essentially decontextualize. And they'll do something like take a movie clip and then pull out the soundtrack, the score music from behind that movie clip and replace it with entirely different score music and still let the video, you know, the, yeah, the video and the dialogue and everything come through as normal. And just the change in the score music, the background music for that clip changes the meaning of what the interaction is. And we're again, trained to pick up on all of these cues because we've been watching television for our whole lives. And we've been listening to pop music and we've been listening
Starting point is 00:32:12 to the news. Like we have a whole cultural context from these forms of popular entertainment and media. And that informs how we view the rest of the world. And so if you are very savvy about that, you understand that importance of context and you can then manipulate it. And I think Trump does that all the time. I don't know if we, I don't know if you and I have talked about this, excuse me, but we should do, have we done Deadpool on Story Hour? I don't think we've done it yet. Maybe that'll be the next comic book movie I'll do at some point. There's a, what you're talking about reminds me, I think maybe this was on an episode of the narrative like a couple of years ago. I was talking about the concept of diagetic and non-diogetic sound. So, you know, you're talking
Starting point is 00:33:04 about decontextualizing or recontextualizing things in movie clips. But the reason I bring up Deadpool for anybody that's seen those movies, like forget the comic bookiness of it. The reason that those Deadpool movies are considered kind of like unique and in some ways groundbreaking, I guess, is their use of non-diogetic sound and dietic sound. So in layman's terms, what that means is diagetic sound in the context of a movie is any sound or dialogue in the movie that the characters are aware of. So two characters are having dialogue. Those two characters can obviously hear each other's dialogue, right? Like that's just most
Starting point is 00:33:44 movies that you watch are diageetic. Everything is happening in the context. Non-diagetic sound is something like the score that you're pointing out that is running over the movie. You're watching the characters walk around in Lord of the Rings. The diagetic sound is the dialogue that they both hear each other speaking. The non-diagetic sound is Howard Shores music that the characters are not reacting to because it's just part of the experience that you are exposed to as the viewer. Deadpool and an allusion to Deadpool or a precursor to Deadpool would be something like Ferris Bueller is a blending of diagetic and non-diagetic sound when this is what we'd call breaking the fourth wall. So when Ferris Bueller stopped.
Starting point is 00:34:32 in the middle of a scene and starts talking to the audience, that's changing from diagetic sounds in the scene to non-diagetic sound where he's speaking to the audience. And I don't remember if Ferris Bueller does this, but Deadpool does both at the same time. So Deadpool will speak to another character diageatically, then he will stop, and he will speak to the audience, non-diagioticly.
Starting point is 00:35:01 audience non-diogetically, but then the character will react to him speaking to the audience, which is the unique thing about Deadpool. So he is aware of the non-diagetic world of the audience, but the other characters are not aware of that, but they see how he's acting, which is why they think he's crazy, but the audience knows that he's actually not crazy. All of which is to say, I thought of that a couple of years ago with Trump, like this plumber story. It's kind of like those Deadpool moments to me where Trump is aware of what the diagetic script was. He's also aware that it has been completely rug pulled on the original script. And I think he's aware that multiple audiences are observing him telling the story about these
Starting point is 00:35:58 things so when he's talking to the reporter like he's both talking to the reporter in accordance with the script that the reporter expects but he's also talking to whoever the deep state people were that we're going to run the other script and it's like this weird uh confluence of diagetic and non-diagetic sound at the same time with who he's talking to which is all just to say Trump is Deadpool basically And once you see it, you can't unsee it. Yeah. Well, maybe we should do Debord at some point. That's true, I think, about Donald Trump is there are ways to speak to multiple audiences at once
Starting point is 00:36:41 and to have them here entirely different things. And I have no doubt that a lot of the things he says are things that he will say to a reporter in the Oval Office with the American people watching. but the things that he's saying are actually addressed to representatives of the actual adversary. Not the one as the news describes it, not the Democrats, not like the, you know, Nicholas Maduro or the regime in Iran or anything like that, but the actual adversary. So I think he's communicating there and then in a way that other groups take something totally different from i think that that's something that he uh certainly does a lot so i have now located
Starting point is 00:37:29 that video i don't know if it's worth just is worth is is it worth it okay so we it's uh i i the whole thing is four minutes long i don't think we need to go that far into it but um this is let's start like a minute and i think that this will give us enough time for trump to do the explanation and he saw what was going on he heard this screaming. He was toward the front where you had security in the back. You know, you had security and you had another flight crew, but they didn't have time. The plane was going sharply down at an unbelievable angle so sharp that the rudder ripped off the back of the plane. The plane wasn't designed to go. An unbelievable angle. It's one of those angles that like, like math hasn't
Starting point is 00:38:18 even comprehended. Right. At a speed anywhere near that. And so it was well beyond its limits. And he ripped, with the G forces as they were, he ripped this guy out of the seat, threw him back, the crowd got him, the passages got him, grabbed him. And having never flown apart a plane, he took the stick,
Starting point is 00:38:42 lifted it up, and leveled out the plane before it crashed. Now, this is the story that I heard. I don't know if it's true, but that's the story that I got from BB. and from a couple of probably early I don't know you've heard that story yet I think it's an amazing so a plumber never flew a plane strong guy lift him up throw him back the crowd was was the crowd they knew they were going to die shortly because the g-forces but they were able to
Starting point is 00:39:13 hold him because he was going crazy that he was crazy and his plumber never having flown a plane had the sense to lift a stick who were they And you know, it's not like planes are different today. He used to have a little serial world. Today they fly differently. And when I asked why he did that, he said he watches that show, air disasters. You know the show? It's that crazy show.
Starting point is 00:39:40 I never want to watch it because I watch it. I don't like watching it because bad things happen. But he said he watches it a lot. And he learned from watching that show sort of how to fly. I mean, you tell me, this is the craziest thing. And then shortly thereafter, the pilots, you know, were there in case, they have emergency pilots on these planes and the security guys, but they were in the back of the plane.
Starting point is 00:40:09 They came up, they took over the plane. I think it's the most amazing story. Did he want to grab the plane into television? They said he wanted it, they don't know that. They don't know that kind of information. But supposedly a plumber grabbed the stick, And through watching this unbelievably crazy show, I watch it. Numerous times, actually, I don't want to watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Well, then maybe I will start watching it. But he learned about flood, you know, because they always talk about this should have happened, that should have. He grabbed the stick, pulled it up, leveled out the plane before it crashed. I think it's like, Jeff, I think that's true. Pretty incredible. And he happened to be a Jewish blumber. Jeff is very proud of him.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Jewish plumber, Jeff. And it's like, yeah. It's like a game of endurance, too, in that where it's almost like he's just looping that reporter and being like, how long do you want to do this? Yeah. Because I can just keep adding and then removing details. And like, we can do this all day. And keep in mind, too, I noticed that he's utterly convinced of the plumber side of the, the plumber side of the store. story, but when they're like, was that guy trying to crash the plane?
Starting point is 00:41:29 He's like, oh, I don't know. That's what they say, but nobody knows what that other guy was trying to do. But we definitely know what the Jewish plumber was trying to do. I see now, the internet takeaway is that this is a false flag staged by Benjamin Netanyahu in order to win his fake election in six weeks. That is apostores. Yes. I would suggest that this is that Trump has full knowledge that this is a bullshit story and that maybe probably played along with it so that they could put this bullshit story out.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You know, Ghost has some really interesting stuff on this. He and I were chatting yesterday in the morning and I don't know if he's presented this. I know he's done a couple shows since then, so probably has. But kind of partial origin story for Netanyahu. in a historical event that this plane has many parallels to. And there are a few of these, and this is not my arena. So I'll leave it to him or to someone else to go through this stuff and nail it down and explain it. But these events are ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And it's one thing to call it a false flag. But in my estimation, it's not even a false flag because this is just one of those things that straight up didn't happen. This is just a bullshit story that they're showing us on television. So, you know, engaging this story at a deeper level in figuring out all the specific details. And by the way, I have no doubt that you can get flight readings on this flight and that a plane is landing at some airport or whatever. I'm just disputing that any of the things in this ridiculous story actually happened. I have no reason to believe them. I cannot imagine a scenario where a convincing piece of evidence would come out about this story,
Starting point is 00:43:21 seeing as how every piece of evidence so far about this story has been convinced convincing only that this story is bullshit. I'm not going to go into the detail of that. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. We can move on from there if you like. Do we want to start getting into the Time article, or do we want to hit a Tom Cotton appetizer that consists of time? Damn, now we got so many things,
Starting point is 00:43:51 because I was going to say we should watch these AI videos too. But we can, damn, there's so many cool things to talk about. Maybe we'll just lace the AI videos in. Let's go to Tom Cotton and maybe we can pull the chat and see who thinks we should have darkness, rain or whether we should stay light into the evening. Maybe I'll just read the whole post here from Donald Trump. That is a long one.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It is a long one. All right, let's see. If Tom Cotton were putting Arkansas first, he would give them an extra hour of daylight. And more importantly, they wouldn't have to run all over their houses, farms, workplaces, and everywhere else, twice a year having to change their clocks and often forgetting to do so. That is really putting Arkansas first. I know because unlike Tom, I won that great state three times and by almost 40 points. Additionally, it would be a very nice and easy win for the Republican Party, in particular, the Republican Senate, a place where we could use some wins. The House approved long ago the Sunshine Protection Act by a very bipartisan vote, 308 to 117, which is a calm.
Starting point is 00:45:09 It has been held up in the Senate, a place where things go to die by Tom Cotton for months. And for what other than ego? The reason that it was terminated in the past was that certain congressmen and senators from long ago used it as a negotiating chip for far more important legislation and they got plenty. Everybody loved it, but it was given up in order to get bigger, better, and more consequential things. Give the Republican Party a senatorial win for a change. Thank you to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and all members of the House of reps, both Republican and Democrat, who so overwhelmingly approved the no more ridiculous changing of your clocks act. and who so strongly want their son in the afternoon rather than the early morning. Loved by farmers, sportsmen, and sports.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Copy of PGA tour letter below. Daylight savings time is 6535 in the polls, but why wouldn't it be? Who wouldn't want more sun in the afternoon than in the morning? It's even been proven to be better in stopping crime, something of which I have done in historic and historic job because, Criminals don't like working in the light, not wanting to change your many clocks, including for church steeples and municipal buildings. It is, however, a 100% issue. Take the win, Tom.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Just take the win. You need it. And so does our beloved Republican Party, thank you for your attention to this matter. Yeah. So, okay. In the chat, how should we do this? A one, a one for. if you're in favor of the don't stop what is it called the no more ridiculous changing of your clocks act
Starting point is 00:46:53 yeah so it would just be like the summer time this clock that we're on now in most places would be like this forever and during the winter it would stay light an hour later in the evening but it wouldn't become light in the morning until an hour later. And so that means it could be like eight in the morning and still pitch black. And that would be awfully weird in the middle of winter. Like even I think in the northeast, it probably like eight o'clock plus, right? Yeah, I'm about as far east as it gets still in the U.S. But yeah, it'll probably be dark till 8, 30 or 9.
Starting point is 00:47:41 That would be wild, wouldn't it? Maybe like the sun coming up till that late. That's a scene. I would take that trade. You would every time. But I'm also nocturnal. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I guess it's staying dark longer in the morning means like if you're the sort of person who can sleep longer. Yeah. That's yeah. And so. Yeah. But I mean, this whole thing is so. There's so many angles to it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 But you know, there's the comedic angles to it. But I like to. spurg out on like the deeper war beneath the war you know you and I talk about basically I have a series reality wars that's mostly about financial stuff but we talk about this at times in terms of Trump is really like a paradigm setter and a paradigm destroyer and buried in between all the fun we can have with ridiculous stories like that and how ridiculous Trump makes them there is this element threaded beneath it where I feel like he is sort of drawing attention to the fact that
Starting point is 00:48:49 just people in a room get to determine the time that we all operate by. And I really think that there is something to that where he's just telling everybody like, guys, I know I'm making a big joke about this, but like these people actually are in charge of your lives to such a degree that they have determined what time you will say it is, even if you all would rather not do that anymore. Man, I did a little dig on this a while back just to see if there was weird esoteric meanings about the time change. By the way, the ones have it overwhelmingly.
Starting point is 00:49:38 We did not give another option, but I assume a two would be if you're pro-ante, no more changing of the clocks, no more ridiculous changing of your clocks act. Yeah. Yeah, there's got to be most of the time when anybody's actually fighting about stuff like this, there's some weird esoteric meaning that some creepy band of like homosexual elites in a cave somewhere. has decided like a cave bunker somewhere has decided that we that that everybody else needs to have the time change for them it's like some real doctor strange love shit yeah uh i as as far as this issue goes trump is talking about it by the way he docs tom cotton's phone number he hasn't done that since since lindsay graham back in the day but i guess this is going to make it very clear to everybody you know whenever he does something that is like really over the top and also kind of a non sequitur from what he's trying to actually push,
Starting point is 00:50:44 I figure that that is meant to be like the little spoonful of sugar. That's the debate that makes this thing go viral. And so then everybody realizes Trump is for the time change. Trump is for the time change. So they can't blame him for anything like that. They can't say it's his fault and nothing happened. And this seems to me like it is going to ultimately be something that does not happen and at that point Trump can take it or Trump won't even need to take it the people will take it as the total fecklessness of the illegitimate Congress and Senate the people want this Trump wants this who can't get it done the Congress and Senate who's up for election right now the Congress and Senate and so the effort for these two years or you know
Starting point is 00:51:37 what is it, 21 months or whatever it is by that time, that Trump will have been in this term before these midterms. That has been a consistent effort to go against Trump and everything he does, just not in a way that hurts the establishment on either side. The big picture media goal is damage Trump as much as possible, protect establishment Republicans, protect establishment Democrats, because the uniparty system has to remain intact so that we can move ahead. And when people conflate Republicans and Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:52:14 they miss what that big picture media strategy is actually intended to do. It's trying to damage Trump relative to the Republicans. So when you are then saying, I'm supporting the Republicans so I can support Trump, well, no, you are doing the same thing that the big picture media strategy is designed to do. They are supporting Republicans. You are supporting Republicans. The media is going against Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:52:43 and you are helping Republicans rather than Donald Trump directly because Donald Trump actually opposes those Republicans in most, if not every instance. And it's not that he's not pursuing America First Values. That's not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting that the Republicans aren't, and that they're actually a hindrance to his agenda. And so this is one of those examples.
Starting point is 00:53:05 where everybody involved with the Congress and the Senate looks bad. And Donald Trump can keep pushing this and pushing this and saying the people want it, I want it. It's not getting done. Why is it not getting done? I totally agree with that. And as even though we don't want to get down in the mud, just on a general statement, this is exactly why it's kind of funny. I was hanging out with some badlanders in a New England meet up today talking about this. Shout out to the New England badlanders. But it's kind of funny because our sort of enemies in whatever we do, people that just have decided Badlands Media specifically Chris Paul can stop what's coming.
Starting point is 00:53:48 They eventually, I wrote an article in 2023 called Overton's Gold Post that I often reference. And usually this was all about mapping enemy narrative retreat. And I kind of just laid out a template of like Trump deploys a narrative, let's say, this is the pattern that I'm mapping of how the enemy media tends to respond to Trump's narratives. And it's kind of like the stages of grief. You've got the, or stages of abuse, cycle of abuse. You've got the immediate denial, fight against the narrative no matter what. Then there's like the caveats of the narrative. Then there's kind of the acceptance stage where they can't really fight the narrative. Then there's full alignment with the narrative. And that I marked that
Starting point is 00:54:32 as basically the end stage of Overton's goalpost, where you will know the enemy's narrative has been thwarted when they end up repeating what you were saying in the first place. And the reason I bring this up in light of Badlands Media being the ones who are going to stop what's coming is that I'm old enough to remember when the MAGA movement was called the MAGA movement specifically publicly and intentionally as a movement against the Republican Party. Donald Trump ran against the Republican Party when he announced the MAGA movement. And yes, then he wore the Republican Party as a skin suit and went through, you know, the parade we've seen over the last decade. This was not a controversial stance in the MAGA world, circa 2016.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It was the obvious stated mission of Donald Trump to upend the Republican establishment because they were a threat to the American people. They were not doing what the American people wanted. The reason I use Overton's goalpost in this example is, we've gone so full circle and live rent-free in so many people's heads now that the anti-bad land stance stance, is now we are opposed to the Republican Party. And of course, I don't speak for everybody at Badlands,
Starting point is 00:56:00 but for myself, I would just say, yeah, yep. Like that was the entire point of all of this, was that the Uniparty is a real thing. Donald Trump stands opposed to that Uniparty, and we stand opposed to that Uniparty. So I totally agree with you that, with you that even though it's all about this don't change the clocks thing i think there's more to it i think it is what you're saying that he is he is outlining the republicans as just as much a part of the
Starting point is 00:56:31 you know illegitimate fake and illegitimate and opposed to the american people congress as the so-called democrats are but more to the point i think the fact that this is such a bipartisan obvious issue of like common sense sort of thing why wouldn't they just give themselves the easy win and do this. And I have a pet theory of it, of not that it's like just this occult thing, which maybe it is, but my pet theory about it is like the establishment doesn't want to show the American people that these foundational layers of our lived everyday reality can just not be that way anymore. Like immediately. And we grow up being like, why do we pay taxes? And you know, John, John talks to all these congressmen. Why do we pay taxes? Well, you'll go to jail.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Well, we'll only go to jail because you're going to empower the people to send us to jail. So why don't you just not do that, Mr. Congressman, sir? And they don't answer the second question. So even the changing of the Clocks Act, I think is basically, you know, hey, everybody wants this. Why don't we just do it? And I think the answer is, well, if we do that, then the American people are going to start asking us to do a bunch of other obvious stuff that they want, that we, that we've pretended we can't do for the last hundred years, such as printing money to pay for the government. So that if they do something that the American people like, the American people are going to be like,
Starting point is 00:58:03 wait a second, you can just do things we like. Just do the other stuff we like then. That's funny. I don't know. It's part of it. I think that everybody is going to remember this sound bite. I mean, this is the most like. classic Trump hype video ever.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Remember the beginning of this? It's about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people. The Washington establishment and the financial and media corporation. I mean, the Washington establishment, the corrupt political establishment. We're going to replace that with a new government and give it to the people. So he didn't say just the Democrat establishment. There is a Republican establishment.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's the Unip Party. And it's still there. And it's still working with the Democrats because together they push the same agenda. And the two party illusion at some point has to, we just have to let go of that sort of thing. Because the two party illusion keeps us supporting one side of the Unipart. And the Uniparty doesn't give a shit which side you support. Either side you support is supporting the unit party and supporting the system and keeping it going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:23 We should probably move on, but go ahead. Yeah. Well, I was just going to say, you know, the reasonable pushback on this stance that, you know, you and I take, John takes, ghost takes, you know, many at badlands take is that we're against the establishment, we're against the unit party is, or at least the reasonable sort of like caveat. Why is Trump telling us to vote super hard? Of course, everything Trump tells us to do or says can be interpreted, right? So we're obviously just giving what we think he means. But Ghost has been saying this, or I think it's Ghost that's been saying this, but a lot of us has been saying this in various ways.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Trump also told you, and I know people like pretend he didn't, but like he said to take the Deb. He did say to take, he said like, I think people should take it. There's a dozen clips where he says, I would take it, I think people should take it, I think we should just take it. I think you should take it. And people just, they don't want to hear that. And by the way, that's not me trying to demonize Donald Trump. That's what a lot of us said at the time was Trump is on these rails. He knows the narratives that have been set in motion. And I believe, and a lot of what we talk about with Operation Warp Speed for years has been this idea of accelerating
Starting point is 01:00:37 down the path faster than the enemy narrative can keep up and basically disarming their whole narrative paradigm before it can get activated, before it can get fully weaponized. I certainly believe he was doing that during the COVID crisis during the pandemic, the so-called pandemic that I believe was fake. So why was Trump telling you to take the jab if you're like a Trump maxi and a truther and a Q person and all the rest of it? Well, one of my rationales is that he was just trying to accelerate past that narrative telling you do whatever you want to do, but this is what I think you should do. And now you can look at the elections as another basically plague on the American people and are obsessional with these election cycles. If Trump says don't vote, then he is just
Starting point is 01:01:22 giving the central narrative over to the establishment in this reading of things. He gives them full license to basically not only do whatever they want with the central narrative, but to basically say that Trump co-signed whatever damages come on the back of it. So that's one reading of why he would do this kind of stuff. And again, you know, when you play that clip, it's just, it's wild that it's become a controversial stance to say that Donald Trump is against the political establishment, but then to like want a gold star for voting for the political establishment again. Bit silly. Yeah, hard to understand. Okay. So do we have, um, we probably have another ad to get to. We do. We do that. We can do that before the time article. So, uh, Jess, if you are prepped and ready
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Starting point is 01:03:29 Speaking of time. I do think it's timely. He was talking about time this week with all this stuff. Nice. Well done. Yeah. Okay. Do you want to?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Should I pull up my version? Yeah. I've got some things. Do you have notes and stuff? You can pull up yours. I only have a couple of highlights and I didn't, I was reading half of it on my phone, so I don't have highlights of any of that part. So if you took some notes and stuff, maybe we should just work off of yours. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I took some notes, but yeah, I mean, should I just, should we read it? I don't think we need to read the whole thing. We don't need to read the whole thing. So, the whole thing. The article, yeah, the article is one thing and then the transcript of the actual interview. Oh, I didn't look at that. Okay. So let me then, I am going to bring up the article because I actually have the article highlighted pretty well.
Starting point is 01:04:25 So let's go through my highlights in the article. If there's anything that you have notes on that I miss, then we can go to those notes and then we'll jump into the interview just quickly. So this is Eric Cortalesa's article for Time magazine. He's done a few interviews with Donald Trump over the last couple of years. And every time he does one, they seem to generate a bunch of headlines. One would wonder if that is specifically what they are for. But this was called what Trump has built.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And so he does this long, long interview with Trump. and then writes this article where he kind of goes through the physical changes that Trump has made to the White House and the complex, you know, talking about the helipad, talking about the ballroom, and using that as a frame of sorts for Trump's presidency, which I think is pretty ridiculous. I thought I had a, uh, uh, okay, here it is. This is it. I thought this was so obfuscary. because this is kind of the backing for this story. And this is one of the ways that they frame way too many Trump stories over the years. It's always some personality flaw of Donald Trump is the explanation for why he's doing the thing that he's doing. Because either they are clueless to what the actual explanation is, they're unable to understand the actual explanation because they're unable to understand the actual explanation because they're they live in this kind of conditioning generated false reality, or they're just unwilling to say
Starting point is 01:06:15 what the actual explanation is because it's damaging to their agenda. But here's the explanation, their explanation from this article. One can understand Trump's fixation on his construction projects at one of the lowest points of his presidency. So you have to believe this is one of the lowest points of Trump's presidency. Is it feel like a low point? I know that it is online and in the media, but it doesn't feel like a low point for me.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I think as far as what I believe Trump is doing, everything seems to be going along just fine. Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah. So to continue, he is absorbed with the physical details of a world he can remake in his liking or to his liking. So he's at a low point in his presidency, and he's so depressed about all the politics
Starting point is 01:07:05 and everything that's happening in the world, that he's just going to go build out the White House complex to make something look good. With his presidency seemingly spinning off course, Trump has busied himself with things he can control. So I don't know if there's any thing you want to jump in on there, but. Well, I do. I really like it. Sometimes I think this is just like serendipitous God stuff or that Trump knows what he's threading into these interviews.
Starting point is 01:07:34 You know, the even when we look at transcripts, obviously we're looking at like the finished product here, which is a narrative deployment, right? It is a framed narrative deployment with certain intentions that are fun to analyze. Then to your point, we have a transcript of what was even said back and forth. But then we have what we can never get to. We can only speculate on, which is what is the intent in Donald Trump's mind when he's communicating to this writer and the things he is responding with and everything? Those are things that we can just speculate on. So, you know, one way of looking at these things is that the writer is trying to frame a certain way. The other way of looking at these things, well, I think that's true.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I think that's an arguable. But I think it's also true that Donald Trump often sets these traps for writers to provoke them into framing things a certain way. And I really think that there is something very symbolic and signal soaked about Donald Trump, the builder. I was actually going to, it reminded me, I brought this up on the episode of the Badlands Blitz that Ghost and I just recorded, but I think it's relevant to what we're talking about here. But in the Righteous Russia series, for example, I said, quote, in order for Trump and Putin to command the sort of international goodwill, they will need to stabilize a world dealing with the fallout of the biggest unveiling of political and economic corruption in history. They must not be viewed as conquerors, but as unifiers. They cannot be destroyers, but builders. For Trump, his entire life has been about building.
Starting point is 01:09:08 The campaign that saw him unify large blocks of disaffected and abandoned voters was built on promises of building. And in order to build, one must first tear down. So, you know, I'm not the first person who said something like that. But I don't think it's just as, I don't think it's just, I think these writers think that they're making Trump's presidency seem trivial by focusing on his construction projects. But Trump has a quote early in this article in this section where it's, he says, quote, I, I say, am I a better builder or a politician? And I don't like that kind of goes into what we talked about in the hour leading up to this segment. What is Trump trying to do? Is he actually trying to, you know, win the government? Or is he trying to build something for the
Starting point is 01:09:57 future. And in this context, we're talking about literal physical building projects. But I genuinely believe that that's a big part of how Trump wants to be remembered is not just like, hey, there's these beautiful things I built, but more like this is the new paradigm that we that we built. So I think that they think it's trivial. And I think Donald Trump does not think building beautiful things is trivial. Yeah. And I think bigger picture that makes sense too. He really has a project that he is pursuing. It's not passing legislation with an illegitimate Congress and Senate. That that's not what he's doing. And these political hacks who have dominated our political communications, again, for our entire lifetimes, they have no ability and no insight into what he's doing. I can't
Starting point is 01:10:48 believe it's been 11 years. And these people have not considered for a second that maybe Donald Trump has something else going on. And maybe, maybe he's not the moron that you keep framing him to be so that your stories might work. Because otherwise, none of that stuff appears in reality. And it's so, so ridiculous that we're still stuck here talking about these sorts of things. And I don't, I don't mean you and me in our audience. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Fortunately. But a lot of America really believes that this is, this is the state of our politics right now and the state of the Trump presidency. He is doing something. There is a project there, and it's not going to be deterred by elections at all. And one of the things that they can't explain and can't understand, you know, I often refer to Jake Sherman because he's this, the guy from Punch Bull News. He's the guy that's like on the ground there in Washington dealing with the Congress, dealing with the Senate. And he was talking about, I don't know, some vote.
Starting point is 01:11:53 that was going to occur. And they're like, this is not going to help the Trump cause in the midterm. And it's like, dude, what are you talking about? And at the same time, they'll also, they're all baffled about Trump seeming like he doesn't really care who wins the midterms, even though he's doing like 32 rallies and 32 days,
Starting point is 01:12:17 which is kind of cool because you're going to get the story out there to everybody, put himself front and center, center, show everybody, hey, look how many Americans still show up for my events. And then when the election result rug gets pulled on all the vote hard people out there who know better, it ain't going to be Trump's fault. And he's making sure that the entire country knows that it ain't going to be his fault. By the way, I don't know if you got far enough. But because you just brought it up, one of the quotes that I pulled out of this article is toward the very end. which is an unnamed source, and it's in Trump's, in Trump's administration or advisory, whatever,
Starting point is 01:13:00 quote, he doesn't seem to care that much about the midterms, thinks they're a lost cause anyway and wants to preserve future possibilities. Yeah, the lost cause part, I think, is a little absurd. Yeah. But, and, you know, when you have an unnamed source, of course, you're going to get that sort of analysis. Because the whole thing is Trump doesn't care because he's already so unpopular that the Republicans are going to get destroyed. But they go back and forth on these things all the time. You know, there were the headlines this week about how this or that analyst thinks that the Republicans might win all eight of these, these close races, these close Senate races.
Starting point is 01:13:44 So maybe there's a chance they're even going to expand their Senate margin. I guess we'll see about that. All right, let's keep it going. because we still have so much to get to that we're obviously not going to get to, but that's okay. Inside the administration, senior advisors increasingly recognize that he has passed the apogee of his second term power. Across the Republican Party, officials are preparing for the likelihood of losing the house and perhaps the Senate in the midterms.
Starting point is 01:14:12 After two years spent almost entirely on offense, Trump soon may be forced onto defense. Democrat control of Congress would bring investigations and subpoena. hearings and potentially a third round of impeachment proceedings. Cabinet officials could be hauled before Congress. Trump describes the prospect in characteristic terms. They'll probably go after me, he says, and I'll go after them. Yet with so much at stake for the country and the world for his party and his own power, Trump can seem curiously preoccupied. Yes, because he doesn't actually care about these things just because these reporters say he should care about these things. Listen to what he said to a reporter outside the White House yesterday.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Now that if Democrats win control of Congress, they will impeach you. But you've already been impeached twice. So what's the third time? No, I don't know, but I'm getting good at it. And it's a fake impeachment. And we could have done that with sleep. be Joe, but we didn't do it because it would have been appropriate. I could have done that with Hillary Clinton, as you know. I had the chance to do it if I wanted. And I said that would be
Starting point is 01:15:32 inappropriate. But with me, they like to do it. So a fake impeachment. It's amazing, again, it's amazing that these things are controversial to stay kind of outside of our bubble. But again, it is that there's some Freudian slips, I think, in this article where it's either that the writer does, does know that there's something much bigger going on with Donald Trump. Or they kind of like stumble around the truth and they put it down as if it's this, this, I don't know what the word I'm looking for, but this sort of scar on a black mark on Trump's ledger when it's actually the whole point of it. For example, even earlier back in that building section,
Starting point is 01:16:21 there's kind of a funny passage. The guy writes, Lawsuits have followed the endeavor. They're talking about its construction projects, alleging that Trump demolished the historic structure and began building its replacement without congressional authorization or the required federal reviews.
Starting point is 01:16:36 He kept building anyway. And then a few sections beyond that, he says, with his presidency seemingly spinning off course, Trump has busied himself with the things he can control. Which again, those things in the section you wrote about the apogee of his power, he's going to have to go to defense and he seems curiously dismissive and doesn't care about this other stuff. Like, it's that Overton's goalpost thing where, yeah, we agree. Like, this isn't
Starting point is 01:17:05 one of those propaganda pieces where they're just laying out all these series of observations about Trump and we're like, that isn't true and that isn't true and that isn't true. This is the weird one where I'm like, yeah, you're right. He does seem curiously detached from the midterm cycle. Yep, he doesn't seem to care about Congress at all. Yeah. he definitely didn't do a federal review. You're entirely right. You're right. He did build it anyway. And you're right. He is focused entirely on other things. So it's like it just shows you the power of framing. You even earlier in the show mentioned like threading a different score on top of a otherwise unchanged scene totally changes the contextual understanding. This is the same thing,
Starting point is 01:17:46 where I could write this article almost, almost the same form. format as a Trump maximalist and very little would change in terms of the facts I'm alleging and the arguments I'm alleging in the article. The only thing that would change would be my framing of it as a good thing. So I would also be saying Trump is ignoring Congress. Trump seems apathetic about the midterms. Trump is ignoring federal review. Trump is fighting with Congress.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Trump's going to get impeached again. you and I could write this entire article almost word for word and be like, yep, good thing co-signed. And I do think it's another marker in the discombobulation kind of reading of what his second term has been, where he just, he doesn't care anymore about playing the game, which I actually take as one of the more encouraging signs of this second term, like his posture, because it implies to me and to you, when you talk about thinking things are going better than these people think they are, It implies that Trump kind of on some level knows that their methods of stopping him and stopping the event, stopping what's coming. They've maybe exhausted a lot of those.
Starting point is 01:19:06 There's not really anything left. And he kind of knows that we're on these rails. And these rails are going to bring us to whatever endgame he wanted in the first place. Yeah, I totally agree with you about that. I'm hoping that he has the, you know, the train thing where it switches the tracks. I hope that he gets on to the right rails. That was the analogy that I used to use. You remember the train coming down the canyon kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Okay, so let's keep going with the article. They had this bit about the economy, and we're all supposed to understand that the economy is very bad because there is a global affordability crisis. And that's obviously bullshit. And the way you know that it's bullshit is because it's happening globally. Okay. and it's called an affordability crisis, which is a totally subjective term.
Starting point is 01:19:57 You can call anything an affordability crisis. If you don't have enough money, even expensive things are unaffordable. So that's a crisis. If you've got a ton of money and expensive things are more expensive, you're like, damn, that's expensive. Oh, it's a crisis. There's so many different ways you could have an affordability crisis as an individual. But you can tell that this is just like a made-up script.
Starting point is 01:20:21 kind of thing. They started talking about it before Trump even took office and they've pushed it for the entire time that he's been in office. And I found this paragraph kind of, just the perfect illustration of the trick that they're pulling here. So Trump is going through talking about how we have a good economy. Venezuelan oil has helped. The tariffs have helped. And then, of course, they have to let us know Trump's tariff. Trump's tariff regime strained America's global relationships and reverberated through the economy. Well, has it strained the global relationships, or is it just the next aspect of a process that those other, the leaders of those other nations already knew what was happening. They could plan for that. If they didn't expect him to follow
Starting point is 01:21:10 through with it, that's their own business. But reverberated through the economy is another meaningless description. Trump points to low unemployment, robust consumer spending, and a stock market at record highs as evidence that his economic program is working. And most people would say, yeah, that's evidence that the economic program is working. But by those measures, the economy has remained strong. But they coexist with a harsher reality. The cost of everyday life remains painfully high. Okay, painfully high. Again, we have just another strange descriptive term that could mean anything you're supposed to apply it as you see fit based on whether or not you've bought the affordability crisis narrative yeah it's uh it it's incredible i don't know if it was right after that
Starting point is 01:22:02 section but uh selfishly i i keyed in on a specific line he used for uh he was talking about in the context of the iran war but basically just trump's decision making in general you mentioned the financial quote unquote crisis and the writer says a cascade of crisis followed and then, you know, goes through and illustrates a lot of those different things. What's kind of funny about that, just from a... Oh, I know. I know. Bring it, buddy. Bring it. Is somebody wrote that this was what Trump was trying to do.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Now, obviously, the details I have been wrong about 99% of the time. But crisis cascade, the controlled demolition of the system of systems. This was in 2023. And the idea of this article, I go through the financial pillar, the narrative pillar, which is the media, et cetera. But the basic idea here was about Trump provoking these crises, you know, in the various pillars of the system, from the ongoing accelerating contagion of collapses afflicting the financial system to its fallout on the propagandist balance sheets of the media industrial complex, trapped in a Hegelian death loop of declining ratings and relevance, an increasing disdain among the American people
Starting point is 01:23:24 to the surfacing of Intel agency involvement in virtually every modern and historical political scandal, and even an international crisis that has affected the paradigm in which every living American has been raised, the pillars of their system are long past cracking and we're beginning to see the jarring shifts and jolts that precede collapse. So, you know, I'm very well aware that a lot of what I write intentionally is very broad, you know, trend-based.
Starting point is 01:23:48 It's like, yeah, you could map that very broadly onto things from 2023, 24, 25, 26, and beyond. But I just, I think it's encouraging, again, when the propagandists for the enemy system, which are a part and parcel to that system, are essentially observing out loud that Trump is demolishing that system. And to your point about the financial system is one aspect of it, even if we're not, we don't know we have all our guesses about like well what's the new system going to look like in all these various layers i have my theories about the global system the multi-polar world theories about a new financial system we've all got those theories we're going to be half right and half wrong about all of them but what seems to be increasingly accepted is that the old system
Starting point is 01:24:41 is being torn apart and it's being torn apart largely through trump and a lot of the the things he's forwarded. So to your point about the global crisis, it's again kind of part of this Freudian double speak that's going on in propaganda pieces like this where it's like, well, yeah, I mean, in a manner of speaking, there is a cascade of crises. And it's just not affecting us in the same way it's affecting the system. And I think I think of it in this timeline kind of thing where it's like Trump is boiling different pots of water, boiling different frogs. And it's like, I'm not saying that there hasn't been friction on normal American people or that like high gas prices doesn't affect all of us.
Starting point is 01:25:29 But the question is, at what rate for me, at what rate is the system being boiled versus us? And I really see a lot of this as a game of chicken in his second term where it's like, trade war engaged, discombobulator engaged, regime change ops engaged. And they're throwing everything they can at his mandate. And I think Trump is just relying on like, you're going to crack before I crack and before the American people crack. Yeah. But my only concern with that is that the crack is intended on all sides.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Like that thing is coming. And maybe that's the thing that no one can stop. I don't know. But I just wanted to call your attention to this back at the. around the World Economic Forum in January of 23, yeah, when Klaus was out there talking about the poly crisis. Yeah, so that is, yeah, it's its own kind of cascade. But let's pick back up with the the time article here because this part I absolutely love. But Trump waves away AI fears, placing them in a familiar catalog of what he considers manufactured panics.
Starting point is 01:26:46 They said that our country was going to burn down because of global warming, he says. Then they changed the name to climate change because global warming turned out to be a hoax. Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax. Asked who exactly is, sorry, that's not part of the quote. Asked who exactly is perpetrating the supposed hoax of AI concern. Trump throws his hands in the air. The whole country is based on fake stuff, he says, because these people have Trump derangement syndrome.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And he is absolutely right. The whole country is based on fake stuff. We get fake stuff all the time. We have been conditioned throughout our lives to believe that fake stuff is real. And we can no longer tell the difference between that which is real and that which is fake. and the information environment that we exist in right now makes discerning what is real and what is fake at a like almost all the time rate nearly impossible and so the only responsible thing to do at that point because the goal is to not get hoodwinked at all is to simply withhold belief from all of it
Starting point is 01:28:01 until something actually needs a decision made where you might agree to believe any of this stuff. Until there's like a decision. See, I was having this conversation in my personal life a day or so ago. If I don't need to make a decision right now and someone tells me, well, yeah, but if you don't do it, like in two years, you know, you're going to need to be registered for that thing. in order to go through and do that thing. Like, well, maybe I will, but also maybe that situation never arises. Why would I make a decision about something two years out that I could make two days out?
Starting point is 01:28:46 I have all this time between now and then to experience no downside of that decision. And if I determine at that time that that decision is the right thing to do, I'll do it then. but that will be with two more years of lived experience between now and then and all the thought I'll put into that issue between now and then. And so two years from now, when that decision actually matters, I'll be making that decision from a more mature, more informed perspective. Why in the world would I make it now? And we can think that way about our beliefs.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I don't have to believe any of this stuff because it has no bearing, no immediate bearing on my life. I already know. I support Donald Trump. I believe he's doing this thing. As long as he continues to be doing the thing that I believe he's doing, I will continue to speak in defense of what he's doing. And so I don't need to, I don't need to have all these questions answered. And we can really just reduce our total number of things we believe without anything bad happening in the world. And because of that, we should reduce our number of beliefs. Because the chances of us being wrong about all this shit, we've been conditioned to believe are really, really high just on the basis that we had to be conditioned to believe it in the first place.
Starting point is 01:30:12 We couldn't have drawn it from the real world. So it had to be programmed into us. That should give us some hint about its veracity. Well said. then you and I, especially on Story Hour, often talk about as cliché as it is, what is the motivator, the primal motivator of people not living that way, including me in the past and you in the past, and still, still, you know, everybody struggles with this stuff all the time in our daily lives and our personal lives. And of course, we're trying to, you know, analyze and orient ourselves
Starting point is 01:30:49 within the huge big picture stuff that this audience likes to try to pay attention to, which directions the country going in, what directions the culture going in, what's happening in the world, how does this concern me in the future? It's fear. The resistance to doing what you say is fear, and it's specifically fear of the unknown. But the funny thing is that, you know, I've really done a lot of thinking about this in recent years, I often reference Dune and my favorite line in fiction is the is the fear as the mind killer refrain of Paul Atreides and House of Atreides. Because it's just so simple and well put. We often say like it's a saying that everybody watching the show has heard fear of the unknown.
Starting point is 01:31:41 But the truth is that all fear is fear of the unknown. Even fear of something that is right in. front of you that is dangerous is still fear of the unknown because you don't know what that dangerous thing is going to do to you or you don't know what it's going to feel like or how you're going to stop it you know in the most like primeval sense of fear you'd think if you're walking through the woods and you come upon a grizzly bear i'm not i'm not fearing the unknown i'm fearing the grizzly bear and i would argue no you're actually still fearing the unknown you're You see a grizzly bear and it makes you afraid of what it might do in the future. And that future could be seconds later, right?
Starting point is 01:32:28 But ultimately, if you really start to hammer that into like the deep matter of your being that all fear is of the unknown, then the only way out of that is what Paul Atradez says and it's what you say. What is Atreides saying when he's saying fear is the mind killer? It's the little death that brings total obliteration. He is saying the only way out is to withhold your belief from the fear. It's the only way out. It is the only practical move that can be made to stop the fear from gripping you because
Starting point is 01:33:04 what is or is not going to happen is entirely divorced from your fear of that thing. And in fact, it could be argued and should be argued that oftentimes the fear of the thing is going to bring the thing about. And we can apply this to, we're talking about elections a lot recently, just as one example. Are the results of the midterm elections going to visit damages onto your life?
Starting point is 01:33:34 Or is the pervasive programmed, incentivized fear that that will happen, what is going to visit those effects onto your life? And I would suggest that the answer to that is quite obvious. but you know not to get super esoteric with all this stuff but sometimes you have to because ultimately and i think at many points throughout this interview and many of the times we see trump he is anchored in those first principles those bedrock principles uh stop freaking out about this stuff it doesn't mean be apathetic it means as you said maybe anchor to what you think is the foundational level
Starting point is 01:34:12 what are the principles that trump stands for what are the principles that he's kind of thrusting into the American mind and imprinting on the American mind and on the global mind. And are those things good or bad? And I would agree that they are largely good. You can use first principles from Americanism to Christianity to sovereignty. Sovereignty is obviously the one I talk about the most. These are things that are synonymous with the age of Trump. Decentralization. And I think that's really going to be the legacy if there's a legacy, not the various, micro events and i would include elections as micro events in an otherwise grand saga yeah totally um okay so i have one more thing from this article and then one thing from the transcript itself
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Starting point is 01:40:20 dastardly midterms, then join us down there. All right. What was I? Where was I here? We can skip maybe the. Oh, no. no, here it is. Yeah, so perfect. It's already up. Wonderful. Let's get back to the time article. Looking ahead to the midterms, Trump dismisses unfavorable polls as fake and insists Republicans can prevail. And I would suggest that maybe he dismisses all polls as fake because all polls are fake. But occasionally says nice things about the polls that say nice things about him. He says, I think we'll do okay if I campaigned and I intend to. and he has been now.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And then he goes on. I think if the worst, or sorry, inside the White House, advisors are already contemplating what a divided Washington would mean. I think if the worst happens in the midterms, we'll be forced to think more bipartisan. I would hope that if we win, we can still do that because for two years, we've run a completely partisan play.
Starting point is 01:41:30 When you're looking back on your time, I don't think that that's what you should be proud of, even if it was successful. And so we are meant to believe that this is an advisor within the administration or an official within the administration and they want to do more bipartisan things. What bipartisan thing do they want to do in the next two years? Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Impeach Trump. That's what they want to do in a bipartisan fashion. And oh, I think, I talked about this with Brian the other day. I think that we might see a bipartisan push for the SAVE Act. People are going to think that's great. but it if you have a logic for that and I would bet that it's going to be on the basis of the Abdul Syed Michigan Senate race and the Ken Paxon James Tauroko, Texas Senate race, if those results like split, I could see them using from either side those races to say to the nation,
Starting point is 01:42:28 look at this, this is what happens. This happens because our elections are rigged in these various ways. We need to solve it. The SAVE Act is going to do that. Let's come together and get that done and get Trump to pass that during this lame duck session. Maybe it won't happen. Maybe I'm just speculating here. Totally wild speculation. But that seems like the sort of thing that we could be told is happening in a bipartisan fashion. And then that leading to the impeachment of Donald Trump with the same coalition. Well, in reading things like that is so predicated on understanding the controlled opposition. dynamic that you always talk about and the existence of and perpetuation of the Uniparty. I've got a series of notes for a solo show I want to do soon and one of the sections in it is, you know, talking about the Uniparty and the midterms and all that.
Starting point is 01:43:19 But I pulled a bunch of headlines over just the last few weeks that use that word that you just used bipartisan. Oh yeah. And, you know, like you start to, you can start to see that as a counter signal. Uh, anytime they're saying bipartisan. just replace that with public uniparty messaging right like we are going to drop k fabe and do things that we all want to do anyway as the political establishment in congress that would lord over you but we're going to the the narrative translation layer as you said earlier of uniparty moves is bipartisanship and all the americans come together and give them a gold star it's nice that you reached across the aisle there to get that thing
Starting point is 01:44:04 past, which is why another bit of counter signal to me, and on a positive angle, is I am most encouraged anytime I see all of Congress upset at something Trump is doing. So anytime we see bipartisan pushes in an attempt to stop something Trump is doing, it should show you that whatever Trump is doing is a threat to the Uniparty and the politicalist establishment, which has become the whole theme of the show. But yeah, it's just funny that it feels. feels like that bipartisan narrative framing used to be such a get out of jail free card for them where they can just be like hey we all like this right aren't you sick a mom and dad fighting well we're all going to friendlies yeah and now friendlies nice yeah yeah friend friend
Starting point is 01:44:51 is a great underrated is that still a thing because i used to love friend they like bought it out we drove by one today and i thought they were all gone but i don't know if somebody bought them and they're trying to bring it back i'm going to friendlies dot com right now just to make sure it's still alive it is by the way the food at friendlies besides the ice cream was actually pretty damn good for no kidding diner food yeah man I love greasy diet for it's like my yeah it's good shit I miss friendlies put a one in the chat if you're a friendlies maximumist like like me quality fudge by the way and I'm picky about that but my point is the
Starting point is 01:45:25 unit party is always trying to convince you that we're getting in the minivan we're going to friendlies but actually they're gonna drive the minivan off a clip I I don't know where this particularly analogy was going, but I was trying to make a point that Trump seems to keep wrecking their attempts at projecting unity in front of the American people and just kind of calling all of them gay in various ways. Man, I'm just focused on friendlies right now. Yeah, but I think people like friendlies. Friendlies is good stuff. When I was in college, there was a friendlies in walking distance, and I was very poor. But Friendly's had cheap food.
Starting point is 01:46:01 and they had a specific sauce called red pepper garlic dipping sauce. And to this day, I have not come across it since. Gosh, I wonder if they sell it. This is the Friendly's Power Hour. I bet AI could make it. I bet somewhere in the internet, there is the recipe for that red pepper garlic sauce. Yeah, the AI stuff is getting pretty insane right now. And we'll actually get to that in a second. Okay, so let me let me just go through one more segment here. And this is going to be directly from the transcript.
Starting point is 01:46:43 This is the section on Israel that I was mentioning earlier. So he says, let's talk about Israel. You have a board of peace that you've assembled, had a big ceasefire agreement last year, but Hamas is not disarmed. They haven't laid down their arms. What are you going to do about that? And so Trump says, I think I'll probably sit in the situation room and make an appropriate decision. My decisions are correct ones. I mean, look at our country. I was moving. This country was booming during a conflagration.
Starting point is 01:47:12 You know, during some people would say it's a war. Some people would say it's not really a war. When we get a war this year, you know, nothing's happened for the last two weeks, right? And somebody drops a bomb and nothing happens. and they drop a bomb. No, I think you'll find out what I'm doing. Oh, my God. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 01:47:34 I mean, he says it. And people are like, well, it can't be true because those assholes at Badlands said that seven months ago. Day one, by the way. Yeah. And we told them that that wasn't how it is. So therefore, it's still, it wasn't fake then and it's not fake now. It doesn't matter how many times Trump says that it might not be really be a war. We know it's a war.
Starting point is 01:47:58 And by the way, all of the, the GOP establishment and the kind of quote unquote America first, like that whole LARP that those guys do online like the Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson, all of the, and who knows, maybe we need a third party. Judas goading them into the, by the way, I would encourage everybody to listen, especially if you were ever, if you ever read the book, Sovereign Individual, and you thought that was a good book and a wise path. to follow. Jacob Reese Moog, I think is his name. He is a sir. His son is in the British Parliament, a member of the British Parliament. He was interviewed by Tucker Carlson. That guy is
Starting point is 01:48:40 one of the like worst neocons in the world. And people think that he actually out debated Tucker or that Tucker screwed himself by saying something that wasn't appropriately horrible about Nazis. but the guy who wrote the sovereign individual gave one of the dumbest and worst interviews I've ever heard in my life, did not substantiate virtually anything he said, except appeals to history, appeals to authority, diversion. It was so embarrassing that if he didn't have an esteemed British accent and a long reputation behind him, it would have been seen for the comical farce that was but was he the guy who like a week ago was saying that brits should uh be proud of their
Starting point is 01:49:30 children dying in a war to come with russia i would expect that he was that guy but i don't know for sure it was definitely a british guy that sounded like a harry potter british man uh named mog yeah yeah so i assume there's not a lot of those no no that that would be him then that okay so so going on here it says there have been repeated reports about nettingia how netanyahu was warned trump said i heard that for the first time today the reporter says you have access to the highest intelligence and trump said i i don't i can't imagine this and i think he was going to say i not that i don't have access to the high and highest intelligence but just like i don't see stuff like that but maybe he doesn't have access to the highest
Starting point is 01:50:13 intelligence i don't know he is the king of the world but hey who knows so he says i can't imagine this you mean that he knew about yeah egypt warned him and the ua e warning him and Trump said, I don't think so. I think, you know, I think if he would have known, he would have done something about it. Certainly he would have had people at least alert. You know, he's not going to forget about it. That was a terrible day. Oh, you have people on the radical left that denied it ever happened, which is pretty bad. I am not on the radical left. I don't know, man. If anything, I'm on the radical right. But yes, I will deny that it ever happened. Do you think that the Israeli people should give Netanyahu another term.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Trump says, I'm not involved in politics, except that we're popular. And he agrees you're very popular in Israel. He asks him again, if you should have another term. Trump says some nice things about things Netanyahu accomplished. He asks again if Netanyahu should have another term. They're trying to get Trump on the record with all this. And then he diverts into nuclear weapons, and we get totally off track into another subject. It's so great.
Starting point is 01:51:22 It's like you're watching, you know, I'm a big combat sports enthusiast. And you're just like, just reading a transcript, you can really see the, just the faints. Like, Trump uses the Philly Shell when he's boxing, which is in interviews like this. And Floyd Mayweather, by the way, he didn't make that famous, but he's probably the best Philly Shell boxer ever. Is that just when you're here? No. That's called a cage block. So a Philly Shell is essentially you blade your body so that you're almost sideways and you lift your lead shoulder. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mayweather was amazing. And then you tuck your chin. Basically, you make your, you make the target your head farther away than is comfortable for the opponent. And you basically make all of their punches glance off of your shoulder on the way in so that your shoulder's taking all this power off of them. But then people will just see you as a target. It's very.
Starting point is 01:52:20 tempting target to hit because you're like, look at his temple. His temple is right there. I can just hit his temple and then his shoulders there every time. And what it ultimately does is it kind of just wears down your offense where it's like, ah, I think it's there this time. I'm going to hit him. And then, you know, on the sixth or seventh time, Floyd pops you with something because you overcommit. And you can kind of see Trump doing it in interviews like that where he's just like, how many of these jabs are you going to throw about BB and the Israeli election? because I'm just going to keep doing the Philly shell. And then now we're going to weave and go into a totally different direction, like you said.
Starting point is 01:52:57 So it's fun to watch. It is fun to watch. Okay. So I want to play these two videos just for a laugh while we're talking about how fake everything might be. And Trump even wonders if some of these things might be fake, like impeachments and everything the country is currently built on. Yeah. Okay, so check this out and I guess I already ruined the surprise, but watch this video. All righty, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Hey, Asan, how's it going? It's pretty late for you. Have you thought any more about how we're introducing Griffin? I don't know. What are your ideas? I mean, I think we should stop trying to explain it and just, you know, show them what it looks like. Do you think that we should just show a recording of us talking or something? I think a video of just us like this would be the best way to actually prove it.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Do you think they'll believe that you're AI? I think that's the whole point, isn't it? If it's good enough, they won't even have to think about it. How about just a thumbs up? Sure, one thumbs up coming right up. Hell yeah, that was awesome. I would say you're my favorite co-worker. It's been really great to work on this with you. You're making me blush.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Ah, who's that with the ugly sweater? Yeah, I think it did this. Yeah, it definitely looks like it. Oh, my gosh, okay. 1%. You're living on the edge, Hassan. Truly. I'll keep my breathing steady so I don't drain your CPU any faster.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Wow, you actually did slow down your breathing. Like the line between talking to a machine and just talking to someone is getting really, really thin. Yeah, it really feels like we're like, you know, you know passing a touring test soon but honestly if we want people to see the human part of the simulation maybe that's the most real thing we could show them what do you think is it too much no no i um i think this is it could you have told that that girl was not real i mean maybe if now that we're all calibrated toward it toward thinking about it but um yeah it's
Starting point is 01:55:25 and but what what you just said though is why i said this at our our little new englanders meet up today the the foundational strength that the system has sort of perpetuated itself on has been the foundational belief that people hold in it right so we always talk about this when it comes to a conspiracy theory whatever it is the number one defense for the system is that the immediate reality action is that the conspiracy could not be true. And, you know, these are the things that we talk about when it comes to fake wars, et cetera. It's like the biggest, the biggest marker in the ledger of the system being able to convince you that a real war is happening when no such
Starting point is 01:56:14 war is happening is the fact that you do not want to believe that it's not happening. So I've said before and we've had conversations about it going back to last year, year and a half, that I think AI, the acceleration of AI, one of its great second order effects on both a sort of emotional and like moral level is the degradation in public trust of what they are looking at at any given time. I do not think that that is a net negative. I think that is a huge net positive. Yeah, exactly. It provokes skepticism and the withholding of belief. And I think that those are the ways out. And by the way, to people out there, I think you should be supremely skeptical about absolutely everything. And if you are extremely skeptical about absolutely everything, at the bottom of that, you will realize, oh, wait, something has to be true. What is that true thing?
Starting point is 01:57:12 That true thing is obviously God as the foundational basis for all epistemology and everything else. And that is the ultimate product of extreme skepticism. the people who are still attached to the central narrative still believe in the official truth of government documents and stuff like that like you're you're already on a bad foundation and i think it's important to realize that and uh let's wrap up we talked about the unip party and all that i showed this yesterday um to can kankan but this is the british spy He is who is running for California governor. This is one of his campaign commercials. Here we go. I can't believe I'm doing this.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Don't be nervous. It's not that bad. I've just never done anything like this before. Like, what did my dad find out? Just try it. Look, give me your hand. Close your eyes. And I'll do all the work.
Starting point is 01:58:24 And I'm so See? You had me thinking that my race was over But I was mine I think I liked it Yeah I'm thinking Now lick it
Starting point is 01:58:45 So that is the candidate For California governor From the Republican Party British spy Steve Hilton advertising, someone else filling out your ballot, mail-in balloting, and lesbians. So, hey, yeah, vote Republican.
Starting point is 01:59:16 I just, to be in the mind, to be in the mind of somebody that thinks, we're the doomers, because we don't want to play along with that is quite something. Yeah, I can grab a, I got a couple of rants here. Oh, cool. Okay, yeah. And then I have an outro video. I actually, I played the wrong soft disclosure ad and there's a new one.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Whoa. And it's short. So I think we all probably want to see it, right? Yeah, 100%. You have to know what it is. I think it's new, but I played the wrong one earlier. Yeah, we got to debut the new ad on DPAs. All right.
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Starting point is 02:00:27 If you want a war, I'll give you a war. But this war won't be decided on the battlefield. It will be decided by new. Buy anything at softdisclosure.com, then choose your allegiance. Your purchase is your vote. House tallow to fight for house tallow or house beard oil to stand with house beard oil. Shop now and fight for your house. The realm will know it's victor.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Wow, the ultimate battle between Cancon and Ash. That's a hell of a wolf almost. the size of myer wolf oh no he's apparently chosen to betray me oh but that will be uh that'll be interesting to see who comes out on top there so we are holding elections at bad lands let it not be said that we do not favor elections uh we got dac who sent over 20 bucks with a five dollar challenge here's mine and three more for those that may not be able to thank you dac appreciate that Funky Pam accepted that challenge with a 20 of her own. We got Susie Q, cat scratch fever that Ted Nugent sings about is a real thing.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Yes, I'm glad she reminded me that it was Uncle Ted who did that song. Did you ever hear that song? No. Old school, 80s. I think it's 80s. Maybe it's old. Go ahead. And then Mrs. Real Freedom Fighter gifted five subs over.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Appreciate that. We had a boost from 1027 Phoenix. Happy Saturday. Thank you to our fellow North Dakota over there. And then let me see. There's a couple boosts here for you guys from the last few days. Their hero sent $10 bucks over in regards to Trump shutting down the press and then being forced to reopen it to the MSM.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Maybe he should have, should have the new White House press secretary, Pull of Fauci and just plead the fifth to every question. That would be hilarious. By the way, thank you for all you do. That was for you and John. And then another one from Isaiah and Jennifer. $45.47. Thank you, Badlands, for visiting my home daily and bringing us great perspectives.
Starting point is 02:02:52 If this message could have more than 250 characters would be able to properly thank each one of you. You are all great, but our very favorite is out of characters. I like what they did there. Very, very clever. Okay. So thank you all very much for for watching and hanging out in the chat and whatnot. On your way out, please go ahead and hit the thumbs up.
Starting point is 02:03:18 That helps us theoretically, even though none of you can possibly account for the swarm of bots that one can buy with like 20 bucks. You can look at the Rumble leaderboard and be like, like, oh, those guys spent about $150 putting these numbers on their show so that now they can get recognized this way. It's incredible. Yeah. And maybe people are starting to realize this, that this is like how the internet works and how so many of the people with prominent voices in the public conversation have come to
Starting point is 02:03:57 establish those voices. It is by hoodwinking everybody about how popular they are. And then having. done all that they're like listen to my take on how you have to vote in these rigged elections like hey i rig my own engagement numbers to seem popular but let me tell you about voting as the guy that has uh has hoodwinked you into listening to me that's the way that's that's where we are now is 2026 everybody pat yourselves on the back for still keeping your sanity all right so we're going to And to get out of here, I have an outro video, but first I also have to share this, this tiny little video, which I think is just wonderful.
Starting point is 02:04:42 I love everybody. I like actually, I love everybody. One of those things, but he loves everybody. Take that to the bank. Here we go. Time to say. I want him so much. I don't want the trip, Trump era and not even at president. I think he'll be with us commentating on presidencies. for a long time. All right. Well, Burning Bright, thank you for filling in for John and hanging out. It's been fun as always. And we are going to leave you all with this. Good night.
Starting point is 02:05:20 There is no government anymore. There is a private club wearing a government costume. A rotating cast of politicians, donors, consultants, lobbyists, contractors, bureaucrats, media handlers, and professional bullshit artists standing behind a giant marble curtain pretending they are steering the country while the rest of us are allowed to argue over which actor gets to hold the microphone. They don't lead us. They manage the illusion that somebody is leading us. That is the trick. Leadership requires responsibility. Leadership means making a decision, owning the consequences, looking the public in the eye when it fails, and accepting the possibility
Starting point is 02:06:08 that you should lose your position because of it. Whatever this thing is, it has evolved past that inconvenience. Nobody is responsible anymore. Everything somehow happened because of the previous administration, the next administration, the courts, Congress, the Senate, the parliamentarian, the agencies, the markets, foreign governments. bureaucratic procedure, an unnamed official, a committee nobody has heard of, or Mercury being in retrograde. Apparently, the most powerful government on earth is permanently being defeated by paperwork it wrote itself. Amazing. And every few years, they wheel the public back into the theater, hand us to laminated menus, and tell us, democracy is choosing which table gets to continue
Starting point is 02:06:56 serving the same kitchen. Then comes the ceremony, the speeches, the flags, the hearings. the sternly worded letters, the investigations, into investigations, about investigations. Everybody acts furious, everybody demands answers, everybody promises accountability. Then the cameras turn off. And somehow the same people are still sitting in the same buildings, collecting the same checks, taking calls from the same donors, hiring the same consultants, awarding contracts to the same circles, and explaining to ordinary people why absolutely nothing can be done. that's not leadership, that's theater management.
Starting point is 02:07:33 The country has become one enormous stage production, where the citizens are simultaneously the audience, the labor force, the financiers, and the cleanup crew. We buy the tickets, we build the stage, we pay the actors, we fund the lighting. And somehow we're still told to shut up during the performance. Meanwhile, behind the curtain is a political ecosystem so incestuous that everybody eventually works for.
Starting point is 02:08:00 everybody. The politician becomes the consultant. The consultant becomes the lobbyist. The lobbyist becomes the television expert. The television expert joins an administration, the administration official leaves government and joins the company they use to regulate. Then, six months later, they're back on television explaining why everything happening is completely normal. It is the world's most expensive game of musical chairs, except the chairs of the chairs of the chairs of the chairs of are made of taxpayer money and somehow the same asses keep landing in them. And the strangest part is how much of modern governance seems devoted not to solving problems, but to managing public perception of the problems.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Inflation hurting you? Here's messaging. Housing unaffordable? Here's a task force. Healthcare collapsing? Here's a committee. Infrastructure failing. Here's a press conference.
Starting point is 02:08:55 People furious? Change the slogan. Nothing says functioning civilization quite like paying thousands of people to explain why the thing directly in front of your face isn't actually happening the way you think it is. That is why so many people feel politically homeless. Because somewhere along the way citizens stopped feeling represented and started feeling processed. Surveyed, segmented, targeted, polled, marketed to, managed. Every election season, suddenly everyone remembers your name. They discover your neighborhood.
Starting point is 02:09:29 They become deeply concerned about your grocery bill. They roll up their sleeves like they just finished repairing a transmission. Then election day passes and they vanish back into buildings surrounded by security guards where ordinary people need three forms, two appointments, and the blood of a medieval saint, just to speak to somebody. And we're supposed to call this representative government. Sometimes it feels more like a secret society with excellent brandy. not secret because nobody knows their names.
Starting point is 02:09:59 Secret because nobody outside the club seems to understand how the hell anything actually gets decided. You can watch the hearings, read the bills, follow the elections, and still discover that enormous decisions affecting millions of people somehow emerged from conversations the public never participated in between institutions most citizens couldn't name under rules nobody remembers agreeing to, members agreeing to, then were handed the finished product and told,
Starting point is 02:10:29 this is democracy. No, democracy isn't merely being permitted to choose the managers of the illusion. Democracy requires the public to actually matter after the ballots are counted. A government worthy of the name should fear disappointing its people more than disappointing its donors. It should explain itself without requiring a decoder ring. It should be capable of admitting failure, without commitment. without commissioning a study about whether failure technically occurred.
Starting point is 02:10:59 And politicians should remember that those giant buildings do not belong to them. The desks don't belong to them. The titles don't belong to them. The institutions don't belong to them. They are temporary occupants. The public is permanent because once government becomes nothing more than an elaborate performance designed to convince people that somebody competent is standing behind the curtain, Eventually somebody in the audience is going to notice the microphone isn't connected.
Starting point is 02:11:29 And once enough people notice that, the illusion becomes the hardest thing in the room to govern.

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