Badlands Media - Badlands Book Club: Stolen Elections - Chapter 12

Episode Date: April 1, 2026

Hosted by CannCon and Ashe in America, with guest Colonel Towner Watkins, this episode of Badlands Book Club continues the deep dive into Stolen Elections, focusing on Chapter 12 and its exami...nation of election manipulation mechanisms and systemic vulnerabilities. The discussion walks through the specific tactics outlined in the chapter, highlighting how processes can be influenced at multiple levels and where oversight appears to break down. Colonel Towner Watkins brings additional perspective to the conversation, helping to contextualize the material and clarify the broader implications of what’s presented. Together, they explore the patterns, supporting examples, and key takeaways from the chapter, emphasizing what viewers should pay attention to as the narrative around election integrity continues to evolve.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 That is nuts. Good evening. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Badlands Book. It was the best frozen face ever. Oh, I was frozen? Yeah. So President Trump is signing an election integrity,
Starting point is 00:01:40 executive order apparently right now, voter integrity. Right now, happening now. It's streaming over at Jessica streaming it on Badlands. So we'll definitely be checking that out after the show. Hold on. Let's tune in for a second, is directly related here it's uh lincoln chat and they got it they say they're gonna blow them up they're not they're not gonna do they're not gonna hit them whether you sign it hold on
Starting point is 00:02:07 and i think i don't know how it can be it's a but unpopularly verified that everybody voting in their election let's go we're resigning the executive order it's i believe it's foolproof and maybe it'll be tested maybe it won't i think it's very obvious what you said and I'll ask Will Gaff to Saroff attorney a great talent, a brilliant young man and if you could discuss it and then I'm going to ask Howard Lutnik to say a few words and then I'm going to sign it. We'll take a couple of questions. Okay, thank you. Howard Lutnik. As you said, you have in front of you an executive that deals with a number of issues relating to election integrity. As you've consistently identified two of the biggest problems we have of
Starting point is 00:02:51 election integrity in this country are one inaccurate voter role. that allow ineligible people to vote in various federal and state elections all over the country. And secondarily, you've consistently identified that vote by mail in this country has become right with fraud. People returning ballots who aren't eligible eligible to return ballots. Ballots being sent to people who aren't confirmed to be eligible voters. So what this executive order is going to do is one, we're going to take federal data. We're going to ensure that each state's election officials are provided with a comprehensive view. who need the people voters in their jurisdiction actually are,
Starting point is 00:03:28 allowing them to properly verify that everybody voting in their elections is legally able to vote. And then it orders the Postmaster General, the U.S. Postal Service, to take bold new measures to verify that ballots both being sent to people are being sent to people who are eligible to vote, and then the ballots being returned or being properly returned by eligible voters only. We believe that combined the measures in this executive order, will help secure elections in the future and ensure that the many abuses of our election system in the past aren't repeated in future election.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Right. Howard? So the fundamentals of our democracy are built on voter integrity, right? We all need it. You've said it time and time again. It's a total agreement amongst everybody. So here's the idea. The states, right, run these elections.
Starting point is 00:04:19 They will, if they want to use the U.S. mail, the U.S. Postal Service, they're going to get a code, a barcode from the U.S. Postal Service, and they're going to put that on the envelope, and we will have one envelope per vote. None of this time where we have no idea, there's no observers to mail, there's no envelopes, there's no certainty. That's all going to go away, and what the president is doing today is he's going to make sure that mail-in ballots are safe, secure, and accurate, and will have a clear distinction. If you voted by mail, you will have it on the envelope, obviously not on the ballot, but on the envelope. So we will know a million mail-in ballots. There'll be a million envelopes, and you'll be able to know exactly correctly that citizens
Starting point is 00:05:05 vote. And this came up with some great legal minds. They looked at the various documents and everything that was going on because the cheating on mail-in-voting is legendary. It's horrible what's gone on. And it's very clearly covered very, very clearly. So I think this will help a lot with elections. We'd like to have voter ID. We'd like to have proof of citizenship, and that'll be another subject for another time. We're working on that. You would think it'd be easy. It's a 98% issue for Republicans. It's 86%. Things just came out of poll, and it's 86% with Republicans and Democrats, not leaders, because the leaders of the Democrats cheat. And the only people that don't want to do voter ID are people that cheat. There's no other reason
Starting point is 00:05:53 for proof of citizenship, they want to be able to cheat. There's no reason. They have all sorts of reasons, excuses, but it's all nonsense. They want to cheat. But the Democrats themselves are very high. It's a very positive, very good thing. The Democrat voters, the Democrat leaders, guys like Schumer, who are corrupt, they want to use it for cheating because their policy is so bad with, think of their
Starting point is 00:06:16 policy, open voters for everybody, where people pour into our country from countries all over the world. Think of that you look at, just take any issue, take anything, everything they have is so crazy. But the fact that they don't want to sign voter ID is another issue. It's a big issue. The fact that they don't have proof of citizenship, that they want transgender for everybody, that they want men in women's sports. So the only way, they assume, the only way they can win is the cheap. When you have men in women's sports, it's fine, it's wonderful. But, but, By the way, I worked very hard with the Olympic Committee and got that terminated for the Olympics. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Now, girls won't have to get beat up in the boxing ring like they did last time if you saw those fights to people that transitioned, beat the hell out of everyone, out of other people, women. It was not a pretty sight to watch. So I worked very hard with the Olympic Committee and we were able to get that out. So the Olympics will not have men in women's sports. But these are the things that they vote on. And that's why we're having a problem with them. They don't want ice because they don't want people to be taken out of our country that are
Starting point is 00:07:27 murderers, that are drug dealers, and that are people from mental institutions, the criminally insane, these are not nice people. And it's amazing. I just, it's not even believable. If you go back, if you go back 12, 13, 15, 20 years that we even have. to bring up a separate like there will be no trans mutilation we don't want any transgender mutilization of our children we don't want to have people pouring into our country from other countries all over the where prisons are opened up all over the world
Starting point is 00:08:07 they're opened up and they pour into our country murderers 11,888488 murders. Think of that. We've got many of them out. And by the way, Washington, D.C. just set a new record for safety. I'm sure you know that because Peter, when you walk down the street, you're not mugged lately. But it's a very safe city now. We've got great pains to make it that way. But it actually happened pretty quickly. Within three months, it was good. Within four months, it was very good. Within five months, it was great. Now it's better than it ever was. And so Washington, D.C. is now considered a very, very safe city. We removed almost 4,000 people, just so you understand.
Starting point is 00:08:49 You know, an interesting stat is that 2% of the people create more than 90% of the crime. And the good thing about that is when you get rid of 2%, it's not that many, you don't have a lot of crime. But Washington, D.C., we're very proud of. We're very proud of Memphis, Tennessee, and Louisiana and New Orleans is, Unbelievable. They just finished their Mardi Gras. They had the safest Mardi Gras in 58 years. The governor just called me.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Jeff Landry just called me. He said it's the safest Mardi Gras in 58 years because of us. And really Chicago should call and say we'd like help. New York should call. They've had a lot of problems that we want help. Los Angeles should call and probably will. I think they have to. Now we're going to have to do something.
Starting point is 00:09:43 when it comes World Cup time and we're not to force ourselves upon them which we have the right to do because we don't want to have any crime. We don't want to have any problems to the Olympics on the World Cup and even for 250. So with all of that,
Starting point is 00:09:56 I'm very happy to be signing the voter integrity and I think it's going to be really great. So if you don't mind, I will take some time and I'll make the signature absolutely perfect. So it looks very good. So far, so good.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Okay, so that's a big deal. Very proud of it. And I think, I don't know how it can be challenged. You'll probably challenge it. You may find a rogue judge, you get a lot of rogue judges. Very bad, bad people, very bad judges. But that's the only way that can be changed. And hopefully, well, we don't appeal if it is,
Starting point is 00:10:44 but I don't see how anybody can challenge it. I don't see how they can challenge it. And remember, it's about voter integrity. We want to have honest voting in our country. Because if you don't have honest voting, you can't have really a nation if you want to know. The two of the town, I'll give that to you. Do you have any questions, please?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yes. On this co-starved, I'm important, especially if this is going on in Newon, you have power to transfer people from department for military in Navy. Are you concerned with that? No, I have a lot of powers to do things. We use the power to do things.
Starting point is 00:11:29 We use the power to do. Transfring power from the DHS to the Navy. Sometimes they're a little severe. And then people accuse me of being a king. You see the king, this is the new one. They've been trying for a long time, including four years where I was out of office watching how badly this country. That's probably good on the voting thing.
Starting point is 00:11:49 They've been trying for a long time. Be safe. That's what happened. They allowed to tie it. It's a good thing. Yeah, they're just talking about. They're just talking about the DHS stuff and all that. So interesting executive order, having read it, did not even know this was coming today.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So in chapter, I'm just going to foreshadow probably next week. But in chapter 13 of this book, under recommendations and immediate actions, the number one recommendation for immediate action is to issue a national security finding and executive action, formally declaring U.S. infrastructure, security, priority, and foreign interference, et cetera, et cetera. Now, I haven't had a chance to read the CEO. They put the link to it in the private chat and in the regular chat. But it'll be interesting to see how the recommendations and suggestions line up with the stuff that's happening right now. Because there's so much stuff happening right now with elections.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So it sounds like mail-in ballots now. We're going to have a barcode. so we know the exact number. That's all it's really going to do is you're going to know the exact number of ballots that went out and that were returned. So that when, you know, they're counting until the wee hours of the morning, they won't be able to pull that off anymore. So you won't be able to have the mass injections like we did in Detroit and Georgia and some other states, Arizona as well. So interesting. I mean, it still doesn't get us there, but we'll, we'll tell you. take it take everything yeah it goes after fake voters and fake ballots though i don't know so much
Starting point is 00:13:34 voters but it definitely goes does um here in section two establishment and transmission of state citizenship lists and prioritization of investigations and prosecutions related to election fraud the state citizenship list shall be derived from the federal citizenship and naturalization records social security administration records save data and other relevant federal databases, the state citizenship list shall be updated and transmitted to state election officials no fewer than 60 days before each regularly scheduled federal election or promptly upon request by a state in connection with any special federal election. And it goes on. But it does, yeah, and then section B of that for purposes of this order, an individual is eligible to vote in a federal election if the individual is a citizen of the U.S., blah, blah, blah. So it is dealing with both voters and ballots.
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Starting point is 00:15:45 Let's get into Chapter 12 interview with Source 1. Can I make one comment about the U.S. border? The U.S. Post Office, you guys know that they're having a huge, I mean, I'm all for election integrity. You know that we still have illegals driving mail, right? Oh, yeah. I wonder if anybody mentioned that. We also have the president of the post office right now is the former, what is it,
Starting point is 00:16:27 National Vote at Home Institute founder or president? The woman running the post office right now. I don't know if she's the postmaster. I think she is the postmaster. Is the former president of the National Vote at Home Institute. You can fact check me on that. Can't remember her name off the top of my head. Somebody in the chat probably does.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So just wanted to throw that after. Yeah. Yeah. Concerning. Definitely concerning. Yeah. The post office has always been one of the concerns in the mail. Amber McReynolds is who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yeah. What's her position? Chairwoman USPS board of governors. There you go. That's what it was. And she's formerly of the National Vote at Home Institute. Yeah. So I had most of it down.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Colorado too, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, she hails from Colorado. So are we going to read the interview? or are we just going to go over the highlights? I thought you were going to do your accent. Well, I think we need to read it. I'll be Ralph. I call Ralph.
Starting point is 00:17:31 All right. All right, good. Tell me a little bit about your background, where you grew up, how you got involved with Smartmatic. I was born and raised in Venezuela and started working with Smart Magic in 2003 with the director of Technic
Starting point is 00:17:50 who is actually the president of the Congress. Okay. Can I start? Yeah, go ahead. They don't have a Congress. They have a national assembly. Yeah. So this is a guy that's supposedly from Venezuela and he doesn't even know what the actual institution is called. Yeah, I mean, that could have been a translation, but here's the thing is he's going to say in a minute that it's Jose Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:18:18 he means Jorge Rodriguez. But he wasn't president of the Congress in 2003. That was a guy name. And I looked at this. I looked this up and he's interesting. That's a guy named Francisco Emiliac. Emiliac was president of the National Assembly of Venezuela Congress for the 2003 session, having assumed the role January 5th, 2003.
Starting point is 00:18:40 He was a member of the Fifth Republic Movement Party supporting then president Hugo Chavez during a tumultuous political period. It says also, in 2008, Emilioic ran for candidature for governor of Carabobo, but lost the primary election against Mario Mario Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario, in 2012, he finally won the election defeating Governor Henrique Salas Feo. So, I'm assuming he meant Jorge Rodriguez, but the ameliac guy is interesting. if you had somebody that was the president of your Congress, a supporter of Hugo Chavez, and you have rigged elections, why wouldn't he win in 2008? Why did he lose? Well, and in 2003, they had a very mixed assembly at the time. And from my research, and I read the book that was written called Venezuelan coup. that kind of takes us through all of the attempted overthrows by the CIA of the Chavez and Maduro presidencies.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And it said in that book that in 2003, the opposition party was the majority party in the National Assembly. So I find it very interesting that again, if you control the elections, how does the opposition party win? Not just when, but actually control as far as voting goes, the assembly. It literally makes no sense. But anyway. All right. Reading on. Were you a software engineer?
Starting point is 00:20:41 What was your training? My specialty was technology systems. My university training was in social communication. What is social communications? I have no idea. I read that as sort of social engineering. Yeah. That was loud.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That was really loud. It was very loud. Okay. Please tell me about the circumstances that led to your involvement with smart. It was 2003 at the time of the national referendum in Venezuela. I was sent to work at the National Electoral Council, the C&E. I worked directly for Jose Rodriguez. Hanks out with Eddie Coomer.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Yeah, Eddie Coomer, Jose Rodriguez, they're good friends. Who was the director of technology and the president of the C&E? He reported directly to President Hugo. We call him President Hugo, not Chavez. It's down. It's just one of those weird, hard-retirement. turns again. Oh yeah that is weird. Another little typo there. President Hugo Chavez. My position was assistant to the director of technology. We were preparing for the election, the referendum.
Starting point is 00:21:54 From the first meeting, there was a lot of talk about statistics. We were looking at polling data and voter analysis to try to figure out if Chavez was going to win the referendum or not. At a certain point, we saw clearly that Chavez was behind. He was going to to lose the election. One night at dinner, a month before the election, we met with the director of the National ID Center. We were trying to figure out how many more votes were needed to guarantee a Chavez victory. We decided that we needed a million more votes, one million. And assistance. Stop there. Yeah. What? Like one night at dinner, a month or so before the election,
Starting point is 00:22:37 We met with the director of the National ID Center. We were trying to figure out how many more votes we needed to guarantee a Chavez victory. More than what is my first question. We decided that we needed one million more votes. One million. This is a month before the election and based on polling data. The guys who steal elections don't understand that polls are fake. So that's the point that I highlighted.
Starting point is 00:23:05 So they're looking at polling data. Who's doing the polling? Right? And I find it hard to believe that we all know that polls are fake. Right? So you're using polling data to determine how many fake votes you need. that's not how any of this works. But, okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:41 The people that the people with the power to control elections also control the polls. Yes. But we're using the fake data that we create about the electorate as the real master source data for how we're going to. What? That's literally what they just said. I just marked it in my book and just wrote what? The next paragraph gets even better. It does.
Starting point is 00:24:10 An assistant from Google was there. Googly. There was a Google assistant in Venezuela having dinner with the people about rigging an election. Comes up again later. Right. And if you look at that and know, understand how Google operates in America, do they ever support the, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:33 The government. Yeah, they do. No, no. The conservative piece of this, right? Yeah. They never support the people that the CIA doesn't want supported. Oh, right. No, their regime.
Starting point is 00:24:48 They're in their syndicate. Right. Right. And we already have established that the CIA doesn't like Chavez and Maduro. Right. What's the Google guy doing there? He was working with the director on the ID center. and they did something called an identity mission.
Starting point is 00:25:07 They called someone at the Fronte Francisco de Miranda to help them find the additional voters needed and they supplied us with people with multiple ideas, so that they could vote at multiple locations. Now, isn't the whole crux of their stolen election system that they don't need to have people with multiple IDs voting multiple times because they can just flip the votes? Isn't that the whole concept of the steel?
Starting point is 00:25:33 And now they're like, oh, yeah, we need to make all these fake IDs to give to all these people so that they can vote. So what's interesting about that they created the central thing in like 2006, right? Started building it and then launched it 2006. So they would have needed this fact that I think. Sorry, but that Frente Francisco de Marenta was created June 29, 2003. So I think they're unofficial agenda. to throw this entity under the bus is because this entity was very much aligned with the anti-imperialist agenda of the Chavez and Maduro president. They were supportive of Chavez and Maduro's presidency because their agenda is basically anti-imperialist.
Starting point is 00:26:32 They were specifically targeted by Akuna Matata and the CIA with the USAID money. So you said that the Frente Francisco de Miranda was created June 29, 2003. Yes. But in 2003, the National Electoral Council folks under the guidance of Jose Jorge reached. out to that entity that was just created to help them find additional voters. Yes. Like you would think that it takes some time
Starting point is 00:27:10 to get your organization established, you know, scaled up, have the ability to rig elections. I mean, you know, it's... Okay. I'm still... I'm still hung on what the fuck is Google doing there.
Starting point is 00:27:29 All right. Reading on. That is why when you look at the polling data from that. referendum, you see all these people who have voted, who have no addresses. For their services, Smartmatic charged $100 million. $21 million went to pay for the machines by Olavetti. And because the government owned 28% of the software company, Bista, that 28% was used to pay off politicians.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Olavetti's interesting because Ash, you and I dug into that a little bit when we were reading the transcript and the bribes that came from the Italians. And it seemed like when we were looking at that, that the Italians had quite a bit to do with this. And they didn't really disclose that in the testimony. Olavetti, I think, was a manufacturing company. They made computers. And they also did something with telecommunications, I believe. So kind of interesting there. What happened next?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Smartmatic started to get contracts to run elections in other countries. They moved into the U.S. with the acquisition of Sequoia, the three engineers. Didn't they start in the U.S.? Yes. Technically, yes. But they're saying that their first contract was in Venezuela. No, they're saying they moved into the U.S. with the U.S. with the U. the acquisition of Sequoia.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Which is a whole face lie. Which is a contradiction from what they said earlier in the book. To be fair, I think they're saying they moved into there in terms of doing business. Not that obviously they originated here, Delaware. Yeah. So they didn't just move in. Right. But I think they, I think they moved in it's in terms of like Sequoia by buying Sequoia.
Starting point is 00:29:23 They took in some election. Right. Several years later. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They founded here. They didn't move in here.
Starting point is 00:29:31 by that purchase. They were already here. Right. Okay. The three engineers who founded the company were being directed by individuals in the regime. One of them was the father-in-law of Alfredo Anzola, who was one of the directors. His cousin, Suprima, Primo, was the Venezuela ambassador to the United States. Alfredo was also the lover of Delci Rodriguez, who is the brother of Jorge Rodriguez and has held many positions high in the Chavez government. They're the ones who made the connection to Sequoia. When they bought Sequoia, they disguised the fact that source code was still owned by Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Okay. So let's go back. Now, break down this family tree. Yeah. So if you were going to write a legitimate book, would you leave out the names of these people? When I, again, I'm an avid reader, when people write real books, not this piece of crap, they actually say one of them was the father-in-law of Alfredo Anzola. And they would then, in parentheses, or a comma, put the guy's name. name, right? That guy's name, the father-in-law, is Jose Antonio Herrera, just so that the audience knows,
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'll do the author's job for him. And the cousin is Bernardo Alvarez Herrera. So that you have, that's the guy that was the U.S. the Venezuelan ambassador to the U.S. So I just want to fill in what the author decides to leave out. Again, and before that, the sentence before that, the three engineers who founded the company were being directed by individuals in the regime.
Starting point is 00:31:39 There's no receipt or information provided about how we know that. And also, those three engineers, we would think, would be the names of the same guys that have been the engineers all along. But later in,
Starting point is 00:31:52 it's either this chapter or the chapter that follows this, they named three different, different engineers. One of them is Hyder Garcia. This is Pinyate, Mujica. We think. We think, but later on, the
Starting point is 00:32:06 ones that developed the code involved Hyder Garcia later in this Well, it says the three engineers who founded the company. So this would be smartmatic and I think that's been but we still don't get the directed by individuals in the regime. We get
Starting point is 00:32:22 no sourcing on that. It's just in a right. You don't, that's the key right there. because I think that might be one of the first times that they claim that those three men were directed by the regime. Again, you know, referring to going back to what Colonel said when we talked about this, you don't flee Venezuela to open a company that's going to do business in Venezuela in America. There is way too much risk involved in bringing a company to a foreign country and then exporting your product to another country. There's all you just created so many more additional hurdles to export a product to a foreign country, especially one that has critical infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Well, you know, they don't deem it critical infrastructure, but you know, that type of implication. Unless the goal is to somehow get it picked up by our own intelligence apparatus here or whoever's rigging, whoever's rigging elections here to bring them on along with it. And so when they say they're at the, who found, of the company being directed by individuals in the regime, what regime? Because it definitely isn't the Maduro regime, because that would make no sense to make them go over there for that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Okay. The other thing that I want to reemphasize is the Alfredo was the lover of Delsey Rodriguez. Again, slander. I was in search again today. Hey, Colonel, Colonel, I have plenty enough tinnitus already. Is there any way to get you? I'm not sure out how I told. them on I'm on a podcast is my daughter. I have no idea on this how to it's my phone is
Starting point is 00:33:59 silence but I have no idea how to do it on my MacBook. I am so sorry. Oh that's okay. I'll just have to can you right click on the tab where your chat is and mute it. Um I don't right clicking on Mac is nothing. Maybe if I just quit the messages, um, it'll stop doing that. Okay, I just did that. So Alfredo was also the lover of Delci Rodriguez. I just checked again today on all the sites that are the prominent media sites in Venezuela and the surrounding area. No tabloid mention of it. No anything. And you can imagine that if you have someone, she's at this time, she's.
Starting point is 00:34:48 The president. No, no, no, she wasn't back then. But she was one of the insiders. And she was kind of on a meteorite type ascension into power at the time. And you can find lots of dirt on these websites about just about every. Gosh, dang it. Sorry. Lots of dirt about.
Starting point is 00:35:18 all of the politicians in Venezuela, way more than you ever want to read. Not that. Interesting. Maybe that's just a no-fly zone. Isn't Anzola the one that they said was killed? They tortured him? Isn't he the one that was tortured?
Starting point is 00:35:35 It was in a plane crash and then he crawled away and then he went to the hospital and then he left the hospital and then he was tortured. I think that's how that was. But like, Delisie Rodriguez is the president now. If there was this kind of scandal, wouldn't it be a, at least in one obscure conspiracy tabloid somewhere on the internet?
Starting point is 00:35:52 And again, just to be fair, there's a lot of opposition press, especially at this time. Some of the major opposition press was ran and paid for by USAID through Akuna Matata initiatives in Venezuela, writing all kinds of raggy shit about the Chavez and Maduro's presidency. nothing even in them. Yeah. The other interesting part, remember the comparison I was just making between the three engineers opening it in Florida to do business in Venezuela. Now we have Venezuelans orchestrating the sale of an American company to Americans because they say they're the ones who made the connection to Sequoia. So the Rodriguez's, Delci and Jorge, and maybe in Zola are the ones that are maybe Jose.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And possibly Jose. Maybe Eddie Coomers working for Sequoia. at the time. And they're the ones who made that connection. So you just have like a smorgas board of what the bleep in this. All right, let's keep going. What was the first election that Smartmatic ran in the U.S.? The 2008 Democratic Party primary in Cook County, Illinois in Chicago. That was the first election where Obama appeared. The name of the voting machines they used was DRE. That's not a name. The name of the voting machines they used was DRE.
Starting point is 00:37:21 That's a type, not a name. Yeah, I just note that in this section where he's talking about this, I wrote in the margin, this is the plot of scandal season two. Later in the chapter, we have the plot of the last season of V. I haven't seen Veep, so. Oh, you should watch Vee, you would like it. All right. So the name of the machine they used was DRE.
Starting point is 00:37:47 which is a direct recording electronic voting machine. It records votes by means of a ballot display provided with mechanical or electro-optical components that can be activated by the voter. Those machines used to win the election for Obama. They had been used for the US for a while, but software company software installed and used in the cook county primary was 100% made in venezuela they're still the elections in venezuela once the software was installed we moved some of
Starting point is 00:38:33 the machines to colorado to do some tests they returned to venezuela but there was a problem lots a problem, muchos problems they say. The software was not working properly. So some of the engineers flew back to the states to check on the problem. This was 10 days before the primary. I'm getting very Jamaican with my accent. It's actually starting to sound like you're a latinx trump. I am.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's what I'm doing on purpose, by the way. Yeah. I'm doing the Trump. The Latinxist Trump. That's on purpose. Roger Pignante, who was just indicted in Miami, terrible man, was running that operation. They got the software working in Obama won by a large margin. It was much success.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So let's see. I had a highlight in here they'd been using, they'd been used in the U.S. for a while, but software installed and used in the Cook County primary was 100% made in Venezuela. Now, I didn't fact check that, but that would be fucking nuts to me. If they're like, oh yeah, let's just completely pull this software. out of here, put in an unknown origin software, because clearly they don't know it's from Venezuela, and let's run this primary in Chicago using this software that nobody knows where the hell its origins came from. I mean, that is very concerning. And then your junior senator from Illinois who had,
Starting point is 00:39:58 I think, two years in the Senate was a no name nobody before that skyrockets to the U.S. presidency. So if you were the CIA, we know the CIA background of Obama. And you want him in the presidency and you are working through that to ensure this happens. Wouldn't you do exactly what he just described? And let me just say this. If you look at the Obama presidency, right? Because that's what this is all leading to.
Starting point is 00:40:37 You know that in 2014 Obama is the one that implemented the sanctions and in 2015 froze all the assets of Venezuela. Nice. So they just shot themselves in the foot, but it was for a good cause? Supposedly, they shot themselves in the foot unless it's the CIA. Unless it was never them in the first place. Yes. Because the CIA is the one that's wanting all. of that shit done that Obama did.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah, this and and when was it that SGO Corp took over Smartmatic? I think it was wasn't it 2014? Hmm. I think so. I'm pretty sure it was 2014 when SGO took them over. Oh yeah, look at that. I'm telling you there's two phases of Smartmatic. There's the Venezuelan American control, the the three engineers in in America and then there's the globalist control. And you can see clear as day, you can distinguish between which one, which entity is which, just based on all the things that happen.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But I would, I would say that that's kind of like the, um, CIA and the globalist CIA. Right. Yeah. It could be the, the, the CIA groomed it. They kind of, you know, fed it and watered it and got it blooming and now it's perfect entity let's hand it over to the globalist yeah i can i can get behind that 2014 ash totally yeah it's it talks about the come looking at the doj it talks about the conduct between 2015 and 2018 of pinatae so 2014 is probably right but i'm struggling to find just just just just just just google winded s geo corp acquire smartmatic you can ask perplexity it should only take two seconds i'm pretty year it was 2014. My mind is so loaded with shit now that like,
Starting point is 00:42:42 I know. That's the way my brain is. It's, it's hard for me to discern between what November 2014. 2014. Okay. So, so yeah, that's right in line with that, Colonel. All right. Keep going, Ash. What was the next election that used smart Maddoch software? By the way, shout out to Pizzou for the hard hitting follow-up questions. I mean, this is assuming that this is verbatim how the interview went. I would hope it is, but it might not be. Just wait until we get to where the interview ends. Oh, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They did the poll books for elections in Bolivia and Mexico. It's the book to verify the situation ship. The voters. It records every registered voter, which party and who they voted for in past elections. It can be manipulated and it can be used to. tamper with the elections too. After Smartmatic bought Sequoia, did you transfer to the new company? No.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Can I just clarify on the Bolivia one? They only use the biometric registration piece of that. They use no voting machines of Smartmatic. Just wanted to put that out there. Do you know, did you happen to look up and see who they did use or how they voted? Oh, okay. No. Because that's interesting, too, because we talked about this in an earlier chapter that so many of these countries utilize Smartmatic for biometric, acknowledge, you know, registration and check-in as opposed to voting machines.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And you've got to wonder why that is. Yes. And the only thing I can think of, because it's difficult to make up ballots and have more ballots. And it's difficult to make up voters and say that the voters exist when you don't have a sufficient number of ballots. But it's easy to say you have X number of ballots. Well, then let's do X minus Y number of votes cast and control the outcome that way. So you actually undersell how many people voted if you're able to control the registration, you know, in the check in. Maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 00:45:00 When I looked at it before when I was going through country by country and was looking at the ones that you, only the biometrics. The majority of them used hand ballots. They didn't even use. They just used the biometrics, I think nefariously to collect the data on the citizens in the country, because in Bolivia, it was basically mandated that everybody, whether you were going to actually vote or not, had to register in the system. So I think it was more of a kind of a calling operation, but many of them actually still used the manual vote processes. Well, we'll also learn that it could just be an utter false sense of security. We'll learn that here in a second.
Starting point is 00:45:48 No, I remained with Smartmatic. And even when Smartmatic, I do divert itself of Sequoia, divest itself of Sequoia, and they were bought by Dominion, the software to run the elections, was still owned by Smartmatic, and there's lots of communication between the two companies. When you run an election in the U.S., like the one in Cook County, who decides who the winner will be. It's a decision of a political decision. That is a political decision.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What do you mean? The results is determined by the political entity. I'm having too much fun with this. Very bien. The results is determined by the political entity in the United States. States, the most money. Imagine that you do as smartmatica. When I come to you as a political entity or party,
Starting point is 00:47:00 in a particular country, you say, I can sell you the election machines and provide you with the data that will help you win the elections. I see. That is what happened in the Philippines in 2007. And it happens the same way in U.S. elections? Yes. For example, the Democratic Party or people backing the Democratic Party will go to Dominion and say, we need help in such and such district. If you hire me and we reach a good sales agreement and you have enough money, I can help you with the election. But you have to be very smart in choosing which countries and states to target because there are some, where you cannot do this.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. So my margin note is where the fuck are these deprivation cases? Like, oh, yeah, you just call Dominion and you're like, you know, we want, we want you to rig the election for us in these certain places. And if you can pay them enough money, then they'll do it for you. Like what? People have been sued by Dominion for way less than that. Exactly. And what's interesting to me about that whole conversation there is, so they're saying that the people that back the Democrat Party is basically aggregately paying for this.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But that's not even how our elections are done, right? The only population eligible is the ones that already have bought these machines. So if like we don't even use those machines here in Florida, right? So you're not buying. So the concept that they're saying is you only need to control a handful of counties to control our elections for president, for president. Right. We use that, what is it, ES and G? ESS, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Yeah. So is Florida just like not playing in this fake election stuff? We have some, well, ESNS is equally as bad. We have some. No, I know that, but they're not, it doesn't have the little black box that's magically in the C&E. Well, you get at first, you have to take out the whole idea that Venezuela is stealing our elections because that's utterly retarded. I know. You also have to take out the idea that it's single-handedly done by servers in any particular country because there's a lot of shit that has to be done on the ground in order to also, you know, promulgate this fraud.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I'm just talking about aggregately. They're presenting this as if you go to the DNC and you say, hey, I want to, do you want to buy the election? But this software is not used everywhere in the United States. So you've already narrowed yourself down to, do you want to buy your elections in these areas that use this software, right? And set aside the president because there's the Congress and the Senate that they also steal. There's ballot measures. there's all manner of things. And to Colonel's point, it's a very limited footprint of where these capabilities exist.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Right. That's my whole point. They are presenting it as if they control the election for the president in the United States and they can basically sell it to the Republican Party one cycle, sell it to the Democrat Party. But they can't because this system that's contaminated, we're assuming, isn't in everywhere, right? It's only in particular. But the point they're making is that our elections, like if you look at the way that our country is portrayed to us, right? California is blue no matter what. Texas is red no matter what. Florida recently has been red no matter what. So you have like all of the strongholds throughout. So our election boils down to Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, maybe North Carolina. There's a couple of other states. And when you, you when you when you reduce those places down to their fundamentals it revolves around uh michigan excuse me
Starting point is 00:51:30 detroit wayne county it revolves around brown county in wisconsin maricopa county in ariopa county uh you know philadelphia and and does all of those pivotal areas use smartmatic or no but didn't they say at one point i was just looking for it and it's going to take me too long to find it but didn't they didn't they talk about and you know retarded book advocate at this point. But didn't they talk about the source code through mergers and acquisitions and defestitures basically ending up in all of the technology companies, ESNS and Hart as well? And doesn't Hyder Garcia work for Hart, InterCivac? Heider works for Heart, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:09 ESNS is relatively clean in terms of that. They got bought, you know, Debold. They got Debold, Dominion bought DeBold from ESNS, but ESNS has never been owned by by Dominion. To Colonel's point, Wayne County is Dominion. Most, you know, a lot of Wisconsin, I don't want to say most, I don't know for sure,
Starting point is 00:52:31 is Dominion, Maricopa is Dominion, all of Georgia, every single county in Georgia's dominion. A lot of Pennsylvania is, again, that's just the presidency, Brian. Right. But you can also control the Senate race. The one that's the hard one to steal is Congress. You could in 2021 on January 5th,
Starting point is 00:52:51 when that specific Senate race happened, but if you, you could ostensibly have a battleground Senate seat that was necessary that's not in a battleground state or that's not in a Dominion state, wouldn't you? Well, we had, we had a lot of, we had a lot of GOP senators in 2024 that lost in states that Trump won. Yeah, I mean, I mean, what I'm hearing is that the, the central premise of this iteration of the steel requires the limiting factor of the presidency. You know, it's like this, we steal elections to steal the presidency, but we don't have, like, the ability to steal them down to the ballot issue. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. But, but I see, again, I think there's a lot of infrastructure on the ground, you know, domestic to the United
Starting point is 00:53:37 States that enables that, these NGOs, to get out the votes, the vote by males, all of that stuff is, is a massive factor. And I would say that those can probably overcome, uh, the machines just because you can make enough of a wake with with those things that you can't overcome the risk limiting audits and things that take place, you know, to ensure the votes after the fact. You just, you don't want to risk doing it. You don't want to get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. In terms of what they're doing, and from the globalist perspective, the president is the most important out of all of them because the president dictates the rest. He dictates the tempo for the country because of the amount of power we've, you know, invoked in the presidency.
Starting point is 00:54:18 it should not be that much. The president should be nowhere as revered as they are and, you know, have as much power. Yeah, I agree with you. I just think that's irrelevant. I think that the presidency being the most important election to steal by the people that steal elections does not, it is irrelevant when we're talking about the capability to steal elections because they have the capability to steal elections, fake voters, fake counts, all working together, down to the local level. And this book, as I'm reading and understanding the testimony of Source 1 and this hard-hitting interview in which his testimony is taken, I'm hearing limiting factor of this ability to steal elections is built forward focused on stealing the presidency,
Starting point is 00:55:10 not necessarily stealing elections broadly. Yeah. Okay. All right, so I think it's still me. No, we're we. Top of 227. Oh, top of 228. It's a matter of patience and strategy.
Starting point is 00:55:27 It takes a lot of time to plan. And that is where the expertise of dominion comes in. You give us control of the election in a certain country and we give you the result that to care that you want. but the person or entity or country that hires dominion has to know what counties they need to control the election the election there are over 3,000, 3,000 districts or counties in the U.S. you probably only need to control a handful. You have to know which districts they are.
Starting point is 00:56:10 You have to know, you have to do the analysis first. First. Dominion cannot determine the results of a general election all on its own. Okay, so now we're getting into the next part of this is the last season of V. Go ahead, Carl. So up at the top where it says it takes a lot of time to do this, we just talked about at the beginning of this chapter how supposedly this whole process was done in less than, a few months when they did the referendum, right?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Because they... One month, one month. Yeah. So, you know, it takes a lot of time, but then it doesn't. Okay, go ahead. But they had Google involved with that. Yeah. You Googly.
Starting point is 00:57:05 So who hires Dominion in your experience? There might be two or three buyers, but you only need one. You only need one. The Chinese, China, China, the Chinese government, they pay more money than anybody else. They pay because the result of a U.S. presidential election changes the world. What does that mean? Well, that's what I was saying before about the president has way too much power. And all that these globalists that are controlling elections are about is the presidency.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And China is the highest buyer, is the highest bidder. So the Chinese are coming to America to a county that's a pivotal race and paying dominion to determine our president. And there's no bidding war between China and Russia and Iran and Google. the World Economic Forum and McKinsey, like none of these guys are battling it out in a way that there will be a footprint of or some sort of receipts. That's some,
Starting point is 00:58:20 the dark web, you know. To the point that Colonel Towner made earlier in the book, there is no way that an, a, you know, mid-level, even a high-level engineer would be privy to these kinds of conversations. None. There's not a chance in hell.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Of all the people in Smartmatic, there's maybe one or two people in, Smartmatic that would be negotiating this deal with China if this were actually happening. And this would be some back deal shady ass shit like Jack Ryan Tom Clancy shit. This would not be something that everybody in the company is like, oh yeah, China. Guys, we got to raise China bid 30 billion. Let's go. No, that's not happening.
Starting point is 00:58:59 It feels a little bit more like Kerry Matheson, Saul Berenson to me, but sure. Tim vibes. Yeah. We're supposed to believe that this little engine. guy knows all of this dirt. And they let him out of the country talking to an American journalist or an American writer, not journalists. So I was a little hopeful reading this on the page before when it says the result is determined
Starting point is 00:59:27 by the political entity in the United States with the most money. Imagine you are smartmatic. When I come to you as a political entity or party in a particular country, you say, I can sell you the election machines and provide you with the data that will help you win elections, a political entity in the United States. So who's hiring Dominion? China. Right. You go from, yep, that's a great point, Ash. Great point. You go from it's the Democrats or it's the Republicans to which China. Yeah. Venezuela. And I would, I would be more inclined to believe this book if they said there are a ton of political entities doing business with smart.
Starting point is 01:00:09 They show up. You pay the right fee and you can get your ballot measure. You can get your local race. You can get your judge put in. You can get whatever kinds of things that you need. That's what I think is going on. I think there's some level of manipulation and control. And maybe it's at the party level. So it's the, you know, as a platform, we're going to lean this way versus lean that way. Maybe it's the us for, you know, the parties are bullshit. So maybe it's, you know, populace versus people we control. That's likely to. What's not likely. is it's limited to the president and it's fucking China Yeah, excuse my language And you've seen direct evidence of this China interfering in U.S. elections See, and I've been in meetings in Venezuela Where do they discourse these things
Starting point is 01:00:58 Okay, so it's China in Venezuela Yeah, and this guy's in a meeting They just have an open meeting, a Zoom call Anybody can join, guys get on in here oh man all right who attends these meetings a horo raleges in the inner circle of the venezuelan regime so the current leadership current leadership of venezuela and this guy and the engineer and source one yeah despite all the safeguards in your election system and the audits the source code used in the dominion voting machine is owned and controlled by people in Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You can change the visuals, the language, but the source code, the process the machines follow, is still the same and controlled by Venezuela. It just doesn't make sense. This is no return. Then why does Dominion say that they didn't borrow it? anything from the source code used by Smartmatic. Because what they did is that they took all of the functionalities that they needed from Smartmatic, the source code, and they put it in a new language.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Imagine you're recording a song and you're dancing and then sing and then dance. You have the melody, but you want to change the beats. The new recording sounds different, but the melody is the same. When Dominion is confronted, they say it's not the same source code as the one used by Smartmatic or Sequoia. They're not really telling the truth. But the judge won't understand. And he or she won't know the difference because they don't know technology. Seros and one.
Starting point is 01:02:54 No, comprehend. So it's in a secret room, in a secret box. Making music. that has been completely rewritten in a new language, but it's exactly the same thing. Okay. The architecture is the same, and we did have somebody confirmed that a couple weeks ago when we were talking about that. They said the architecture can absolutely be the same from language to language. So that is possible.
Starting point is 01:03:24 The architecture is the same. The flow chart is the same. But hey, they changed the programming language, the architecture, the flow chart, the essence is still owned and controlled by the Venezuelans. So we were told, I think, a couple weeks ago that the architecture can be the same and you're translating one programming code to another programming code. What we did not get confirmation is that the integration of those changes from a technology standpoint would just happen.
Starting point is 01:03:55 That you can change the programming language and at the end point points with the end user where the software is in play, that those changes to the programming language would logically flow downstream through the ecosystem and the entire architecture. I don't think that we have confirmation of that. And that just does that. Somebody tell me how it makes sense, because it does not make sense to me. So also in computer languages generally, because you're still going to have to manipulate the new language, right? That interface, you're still going to have to have some cognizant knowledge of that new language. language in order for your changes so that you don't have a meltdown like they had in Cook
Starting point is 01:04:37 counting, right? And what I find very interesting from my experience is engineers generally specialize in particular languages, right? They're not like multilingual. They don't go from like the one computer programming to another one, like interchangibly. But we're talking to supposedly the guys that know everything about the original smartmatic and the languages that is used in the original programming. And they're the experts on this new infrastructure type language that has been overlaid on this. And I just find all of that not believable.
Starting point is 01:05:23 But agreed. What is their motivation? Political. Yes, yes, Jorge Rodriguez and members of the regime in Venezuela, they do it to make more money. But what is more important to them is to undermine the electoral process in Estabos Unidos and other countries. Yeah, this goes back to that, you know, the net effects of their political power. Have they been successful in attaining political power? No, not really.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Unless looking like they don't have any is their ultimate op. And all of the decisions go against their wishes because secretly they rule the world. Yes. Got it. Have you ever met Frank Holder or seen him in any meetings? No. But I've heard about it. him he lurks in the shadows that son of a beach and his involvement I heard he likes
Starting point is 01:06:45 La pinga much a la pinga what do you think is the likelihood that our next presidential elect tian in 2024 will be tampered with 100%. Listen me. 100%. It might be your last election because the whole system of control is in place. People don't understand how it works. It's very sophisticated and it's evolving and changing all the time. They have that process and the end.
Starting point is 01:07:40 external connections. For example, in Maricopa County, Arizona in 2020 at 2022, because it is a Republican county, they loaded it with the voting machines that they knew would malfunction. To lots of Republican voters were turned away and didn't vote. And Democrats, they won. The people who are responsible for protecting the vote are way behind in terms of understanding technology, they don't
Starting point is 01:08:11 understand what they're dealing with. It's a sophisticated virus. It continually mutates. It continually mutates. Aye, good I am. I. He's a sophisticated virus that continually mutates and looks for
Starting point is 01:08:29 weakness. It's a monster that is eating us up. It only takes a few countries an handful of people to steal a presidential election, but you have to plan about that year ahead. Just what? The, the, the, lots of Republican voters were turned away and didn't vote, and the Democrats won.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I just wrote LOL. 2020 and 2022 were different elections with different tactics of election fraud used in Maricopa County. It was in my opinion in Maricopa County. In my opinion, they had to do the drawer three paper ballot image size thing in 2022 to force the offsite because they couldn't do what they did in 2020 because everybody knew what they did in 2020. Agreed. So was the supervisor of elections in Maricopa County? Republican or Democrat? Republican.
Starting point is 01:09:41 In 20, in 2022 he was Republican. In 2020, he was a Democrat. Okay. And he became the Secretary of State. The 2021 became the Secretary of State. The 2022 one lost his election in 2024. So there. So I think,
Starting point is 01:10:01 do you think that they would, they're obviously saying 2020 was rigged when the Republican. Republican won. How'd that happen? I have no problem with that because it's a uniparty and Democrats and Republicans are... I know. I know. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:10:18 No, the Republican didn't win in 2022. I thought you said the guy, the supervisor of election. So he won in 2020. He beat, he beat, Stephen Richard beat Adrian Fontes in 2020. They have four year terms and Richard
Starting point is 01:10:35 ran again in 2024 and lost to what's his name Jody Hayes? What's the guy's name there? And Fontes was the incumbent, right? Fontez was the incumbent. Right. So in 2020, the administration of the 2020 election was Adrian Fontes who went on to become AG or secretary of state. Sex state. And Stephen Richer, the clerk. So just to be clear, Fonte's lost an election in the biggest county in Arizona by a landslide,
Starting point is 01:11:06 not the election by a landslide. like Maricopa is the biggest county in Arizona by a landslide. Like no other counties like all the other ones put together don't add up to Maricopa County. And then he goes on to win a statewide race, including carrying Maricopa County two years later. Yeah. Please. The other thing that I take exception with is the people who are responsible for protecting the vote are way behind in terms of understanding technology. No, fuck all the way off.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They are not. The U.S. Cyber Command and the capabilities of Americans. to understand cyber defenses are not this stupid Americans. We just can't imagine how brilliant the Venezuelans are. Fuck all the way off. Yep. And yeah, like Rebel Nader says in the chat, they're not Democrats and Republicans, they're criminals.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Yes, you have to separate, like the R and the D next to their name. Do not get excited about that because just take the little, yeah, just take the little R part and just curve it into a D because they're all big D's. Yeah. Chop off the legs of the R and you kind of got a D. Well, the R, if you look at the R. Trans the R into a D. I was going to say the little thing coming off the R is.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Unip Party affirming care, Brian. It's a little pina pinga. I think it's hard for people here to understand the depth of foreign interference in our elections. You can't do this without the complicity of certain officials in Los Angeles. Unigos. That's the only part of this whole book I've agreed with. Some of them need to be bought. Do you have any idea who these officials are? For one, the governor of the state of Georgia.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He goes by the name Brian Kemp. Brian Kemp. He won't allow for the software of the minion to be updated, even though he knows that the software is flawed. and allows for third party access. Why is that? You can always improve an automated system, but the politicians, they have to be willing to change the laws.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And after that whole thing, no, let's just finish this for a second. After that whole thing, then we get that, like, finally names governor of Georgia. What does Ralph Pizzulo follow up with? Thank you for your bravery. coming forward. And much caracias, signor.
Starting point is 01:13:42 No, follow questions. How about? Nothing. How about what we just did with Mark Cook on Friday's is why we vote
Starting point is 01:13:52 when he got cut off in the Georgia legislature says it was an accident. They say it was an accident. It was a technical glitch, human error. But what specifically did he get cut off
Starting point is 01:14:02 from saying that these systems have backdoor access and that they know about it and that the testing companies overlook it. They cut that out of his public comment. As this book is being, well, was already printed, saying that Brian Kemp won't update the software, even though he knows it's flawed and allows for third party access. So the mic cutting off was similar to the mic being cut off of Trump at the UN and the escalator. And that's all an accident.
Starting point is 01:14:39 It only happens on the good parts, Colonel. It only happens on the good parts. Yeah. One more thing on that last bit. He won't allow for the software of Dominion to be updated, even though he knows that the software is flawed and allows for third-party access. Well, if the software is the vehicle for the source code that allows you to manipulate elections, wouldn't updating it be a bad idea?
Starting point is 01:15:15 Well, so the update I think they're talking about is when when Halderman put out his patches, yeah. And by the way, patches, no, because you can work around the patches. Yeah. But Brad Raffinsberger excuse was that it would take way too long. But before the 2020 election, they did an update to every. single machine in the county in the state overnight.
Starting point is 01:15:45 But we just spent this much of a book talking about how you can't detect or know or anything that this devious source code exists inside of these machines. The source code's programming
Starting point is 01:16:01 language can change into a totally different programming language. Same architecture, same capability, same functionality, but different language. They can somehow deploy that shit without any actual deployment, we are told. It's always mutating. It is a monster that is eating us up.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And Brian Kemp won't do the standard patching that Alex Halderman recommends. So that makes him a bad actor. The whole premise of this book is there's a black box source code that cannot be touched, even by changing programming language, but an update to the software would fix it. Yeah, and then the second part, you can always improve an automated system, but politicians have to be willing to change the laws.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Why, after what we've just learned about this whole book, why do politicians have to change? How could politicians changing laws affect this ecosystem in any way whatsoever? And how does this guy not have any follow-up questions after that last paragraph. I have this secret black box in Venezuela that controls the world's elections.
Starting point is 01:17:16 It's all very stupid. I can't watch for the next chapter. To your point, Ash, I think what maybe they're implying is that the backdoor access is how they're able to manipulate and use the source code by having that backdoor access,
Starting point is 01:17:33 whether it's Serbia, whether it's Venezuela, which the next chapter is going to completely mind-fuck everybody. But Jay Ox Hodderman is an American, right? So how is he both not able to understand way behind on understanding technology vulnerabilities and also recommending the ways to close the back doors that are going to give us real elections? I mean, there's a possibility that those are just some minor things that he was able to observe, you know, being able to change QR codes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:09 like that it still doesn't get down to the you know the the the the brass tax of being able to flip votes the way that mark did on our show friday night you know that's something like if you have remote access you don't even need the USB stick that mark put in the machine you just go on and and do it manually you just you know what they do have i mean i think it's already been proven that they do have remote access oh i know i agree i agree coffee county um you know um breaking well yeah all right the the warning that you guys got in colorado make sure your machine doesn't accidentally connect to the internet. Somebody sent me a picture of ESS machines down in Miami Dade from like 2022,
Starting point is 01:18:45 where it's like literally the green button in the top right hand corner saying internet ready, like internet connective. Like it was a green light. Like internet good to go. These aren't supposed to be connected to the internet. It's all bullshit. The whole fucking thing is bullshit. And,
Starting point is 01:19:01 you know, what they're saying there about changing the laws, that's one thing that is absolutely true is that we don't have politicians with guts to take away the technology. that that is enslaving us. They don't have the guts to do it. Why? Because they're benefactors of it.
Starting point is 01:19:14 They know that it's how it gets them elected. So. Yeah. But if you push against the system, they'll ruin you. Because if you're not successful, if you push against the system and you're not successful, you're fucked. They're going to, they're going to destroy you. The system will eat you alive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:29 I think this is just another reiteration of this book not making sense. I agree. Agree. And I mean, Ash pointing out the contradictions between it's the party with the most money. It's China within five paragraphs of each other. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to your point about, you know, they're spineless and they won't pass.
Starting point is 01:19:54 First of all, I don't think it's spineless. It shows actually great fortitude to not do what the people want right now. It's balzy. Let's see how it works out for them. But going back to the Thomas Paine quote, common sense will tell us that the power which has endeavored to subdue us is of all others, the most improper to defend us. So it's getting,
Starting point is 01:20:17 it's getting beyond impossible to defend reforming this election system as if anything like that would be possible. I think we skipped an ad, right? Spring has sprung at Tamerac Garden. time for your body to bloom with pure plant-powered magic. Kick off your spring glow up with the best-selling detox collection. It lovingly supports your kidneys, liver, and lymphatic system, flushing out winter junk for fresh energy, clarity, and that vibrant spring vibe. Then hit the sun safely, their nourishing sunscreen packed with skin-loving plants and natural SPF, tinted with cocoa, for instant golden glow, no white residue, just radiant you. Protect against mosquitoes and ticks the natural way with their deep-free plant-powered bug spray, safe and effective family protection.
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Starting point is 01:21:47 that's a West Coast thing, but you know. Yeah. Go on RV and those damn noceums. I mean, we were just down in your neck of the woods in Fort Pierce and there were places you couldn't even stand. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:02 People have no idea. Good. Okay, we started this episode with President Trump's executive order. Jonestown, Jenna Griswold, has issued a response to it. Do you want to hear it? Absolutely. Okay. Statement from Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold, on Trump elections executive order, Denver, Colorado.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Today, President Trump signed an executive order mandating the creation of a nationwide citizenship eligibility list and requiring the United States Postal Service to not only receive mail ballots from specific, to only receive mail ballots from specific individuals. Colorado Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold, has issued the following statement. This executive order is undemocratic, unconstitutional, and dangerous. Trump once again is trying to unlawfully exert influence on state's elections in an effort to hold on to in the upcoming midterm elections, this time by creating a Trump voter list. While Trump says mail and ballots are illegitimate, he has voted by mail ballot for years.
Starting point is 01:23:14 The Constitution is clear. States oversee elections, not Trump. We look forward to this unconstitutional overreach being stopped in court. This is the second executive order. Donald Trump has issued directly related to election administration. The previous order has been. the subject of numerous legal challenges and largely enjoined by three federal courts. In Colorado, every active voter is mailed a ballot.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Eligible individuals who register up to eight days before an election or send a mail ballot. And eligible individuals may register to vote in person up until the polls close at 7 p.m. on election day. End message. I can't wait to see how this thing's going to be challenged. I know. I love that all of this shit is happening in my state with the people that I hate the most. Before we get out of here, I just saw something a little crazy. Did you guys see what Matt Gates said on Benny Johnson show today about aliens? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Oh, I basically, someone sent me that when I was trying to cram this stupid chapter for this book. And I was like, I can't deal with this right now. Just check this out. I would say more. But unfortunately, unfortunately, everything I know about the alien hybrid program is classified. Let's just say some of you would be very surprised who's not entirely human. That's all I'm authorized to disclose at this time. Senator Ralph Babbitt, Victoria, Australia. Well, what? An Australian senator on his official ex account, his official government account,
Starting point is 01:24:57 coming on and saying, you'd be surprised at who's mixed with aliens. I can, let me just start out, Who's that former mayor of Chicago? What was her name? Lori Lightfoot. That motherfucker ain't real. That motherfucker ain't real. Have you seen her original picture? Have you ever seen both of her pictures from when she was like 25 or 30
Starting point is 01:25:20 compared to what she looked like as Beetlejuice? She's actually a very pretty woman earlier in her career. There are, post of both of them, both pictures. I don't know what it is now, but she didn't look anything like that earlier in her career. I thought you were talking about that motherfucker is not real, chick who also looked like two different people before and after that whole event.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Wow. I mean. dangers of government. No, there's another picture. That's a lot younger. There's a picture of her when she was like 25 or 30. But I agree if there was somebody that was going to be a candidate for that video that Matt Gates put out, she would be the one I'd pick too. You know who she looks like is Admiral Akbar?
Starting point is 01:26:35 You know how in the quiet place? It's a trap! I'm just saying I'm just saying if we're gonna start if we're gonna start unpacking who's who's real and who's not Elon's up there Elon that motherfucker ain't real you know how in the quiet place spoiler alert if you haven't seen it you know earmuffs but um in the quiet place how takes them right up till the end and then they figure out what the appropriate way to defeat the we need that I mean, that thing that allows us to identify and zap them. Can you imagine living in any other time? So good.
Starting point is 01:27:17 Have you guys ever watched the Y files about like the P50s and the P30s? No. So it's this like idea that there's two different alien species that are vying for control of the pace that humanity's on. And they're not aliens. they're actually from the future. And we go through a nuclear kind of Holocaust winter, which is prophesized in every TV show out right now. By the time we get out of it,
Starting point is 01:27:48 there was a faction that went underground, and there was a faction that stayed above ground. And the two entities both developed time travel, and they're both going back in time trying to encourage the destruction, or excuse me, let me, they didn't exist at the same time. They're two different timelines. that deviated. And they're going back and both trying to exert their influence over the critical events. So as we get closer and closer to the critical event that set them on their two different
Starting point is 01:28:16 timelines, they're both trying to push us in that direction, one towards peace, one towards nuclear obliteration. And, you know, the idea is that they're able to, and this is, you know, backed up by claims, okay, none of them can be, you know, validated or anything like that. But one of the species, lived underground for like 50,000 years. And these are all like tens of thousands of years in the future. And yeah, so one of them lives underground. And that's why they look like aliens because they grew huge eyes with no eyelids so that they could see at night. They lost all the pigmentation in their skin. You know, their body started deforming and get really skinny, but long arms and legs for, you know, quick movement, but no strength. Then there's the other ones that are, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:01 lived in a utopia because they brought peace and the world was, you know, great and everything. like that. And so now they're two vying factions that are, you know, trying to push us in those directions. And that makes more and more fucking sense every single time with everything going on right now. It's like, and Trump is clearly on one side of this. And there's clearly, you know, the other side that's trying to push us in directions. So I might need to be much. I want him to name names. It's name names, Senator. Ralph Babette. Ralph Babette. Ralph Babette. from Victorian. Fascinating. So, yeah. All right, ladies, great show. Can't wait for, actually, we're almost done. I'm so excited. We're almost done with this part. I'm so glad.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I don't think we're going to be able to because I'll be, I'll be traveling. Oh, we're not going to have a book club next week. Unless we pre-recorded on Monday, because I'll be traveling. Okay, well, we can chat about that. Yeah, we'll, we'll figure it out. But thank you guys all so much for tuning in. Get your Badlands Gart, Badlands Media, Gart 11. We have an exclusive live stream on Thursday at 2 p.m. Eastern
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Starting point is 01:30:28 come hang out with us in the chat. You won't regret it. It's going to be a lot. blast. I don't know where my bad boy is. Christy took it and put it somewhere. I thought you took it off. I did not take it off. She took it off saying that you can't see it anymore and I'm like the
Starting point is 01:30:42 fuck you can't. It's right here. Well, we can't see it. I think I put him. Well, it was right here. Colonel's like, get me the fuck out of here. I'll see you guys later. I'm out. Patriots. The fight for truth doesn't stop at the screen. It's hitting the road
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