Badlands Media - Badlands Daily: 9/4/26 - Bartiromo Firing Fallout, WWIII Narratives & Michigan Petition Denied

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

CannCon and Chris Paul close out the week with a report claiming Fox fired Maria Bartiromo over leaked internal texts about the network's coverage of election fraud claims, then turn to a pair of contradictory court rulings that show just how uneven election law has become. Missouri's Supreme Court blocks a new congressional map after the primary already happened, while Justice Kavanaugh declines to put a citizens only voting amendment on Michigan's ballot despite organizers collecting a quarter million more signatures than required. The middle of the show digs into what CannCon sees as a coordinated push to drum up World War Three narratives, including Trump asking Europe to repay the US for Ukraine munitions. They wrap with a Columbia Journalism Review piece on New York's mayor paying friendly influencers to carry his messaging. Plenty of Friday banter throughout.

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Chris Paul, how you doing, brother? Hanging right in there, Brian. Awesome. Thank goodness it's Friday, right? Dude, every single time, man. I love to see your face on this show because it means we're done for the week. We get to unwind and unpack all of this. And man, what a day, dude.

I don't know if you've been, well, I know you've been keeping tabs on the narratives out there, man. But there's like this crazy drive now over the last maybe 48 hours to somehow poke the idea of World War III. Really? I haven't caught wind of that. What are you seeing? We'll get into it. I've got like five stories that are showing a fracture between the US, Europe, and a lot of it's involving conflicts that may be taking place. And just really interesting to see.

And again, this is the mainstream narratives that are being put out there. I think there's obviously some other ideas that we can rally behind in terms of what's being said, what's being done versus what's being said. So we'll see. We'll get there. Yeah, let's go ahead and jump into our sponsors for today before we get rolling. And we've got first up, our friends over at Rise to Ty. Howdy, Badlanders? Summertime is here.

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Maria Bartaramo out at Fox News. Her show, her show will be now transitioning from mornings with Maria to mornings with Fox business. It's just not the same. You know, I look, I know Fox News gets a lot of shit from us. We give a lot of shit. She was the one person on Fox News that I actually could enjoy watching. Like I, sure.

She stuck with the 2020 election. he was out in front her and Lou Dobbs but Dobbs obviously passed away but and Dobbs also notoriously had covered election integrity like going back to his CNN days you know when I when I was doing all my research in 2020 a lot of the stuff that I found was actually stuff that Lou Dobbs was reporting on back then but Barteromo to me was always the one that was kind of like the I don't know what would you call it like the most based I guess out of all the the host they're the least bought off. Well, she certainly seemed to be a channel for one of the,

I guess the mainstream version of what people kind of consider the, the MAGA plan that's kind of running in the background. She's always the one who's platforming the John Ratcliffs and the people like that, the Devin Nunes, is always on Sunday morning. She has, you know, the Senate Majority Leader, the Speaker of the House, Mike, Johnson, stuff like that. And those people are consistently disseminating that particular narrative through Maria Bartaromo on Fox News. And so then the question is, is that the white hat

siop trying to wake up the Normies, or is that some different information up? And I think that that question is still unresolved, although I understand that probably most of the people in our audience think that question is quite resolved and that Maria Bartaromo is just, heroic journalist i don't know what the phrase heroic journalist means but uh she is certainly one of them it would be heroic journalists would be the ones that are in keve as they're bombing and they're laying down yeah the dude who like forgot his helmet uh around the corner offset and the one that had the kevlar like like you could hear like the audio dubbed in from his producer and his ear like hey go down like the guy in the hurricane that was paddling in the boat and then the couple walks right behind

him like shin deep in the water he's sitting there like a retard battling uh yeah uh president trump truthed out uh i can't believe maria barteroma is no longer going to have her great shows on fox news slash business three different shows always number one maria is a total total professional and a true warrior her fans of which there are many will not be happy god bless you Maria President Donald J. Trump. And then also notable before we get into the rumors circulating around her termination, Mike Huckabee, Ambassador to Israel, says, I just saw Maria Bada Ramos left Fox News and so sad to hear,

the smartest, hardest, working journalist, an absolutely class act. It was an honor to work with him, her, and later to be a guest on a show, always worth watching. And look, I don't know why. it says him slash her is Maria transitioning. We just said that the show's transitioning from Fox with Friends to Fox and Fox Business with Maria Bartaromo to Fox Business Mornings or something. So maybe there is something actually there.

Maybe I don't know. The Fox News folks found out she's actually, he's trans. I don't know. That doesn't seem likely, but man, you just never know. It's really funny. I remember the first time I became aware of Maria Barter. Bartaromo, one of my friends in college who was like a business major and took it all very seriously. You still love Maria Bartoromo because she was a financial reporter, I think on CNBC or something

like that. But it would just be like, look at this pretty lady telling us about the numbers every day. Well, Huckabee clarified his post and said, amazing what X followers notice. I, me, sent posted, X Twitter, A, B, T, my friend. former colleague, it was not AI, but post read him, her, auto type. And I mean, it's like, dude, just, just, just own it, man. Just own it. You prompted a response. You got to, how else do you write him, her? I, I don't know how that sort of thing happens. And his attempt, isn't it weird how Huckabee always has like a humorous comeback? He's like,

I do dad humor. That's like part of my thing. So weird. I don't get it, man. Like, so if it is, if it was just, you know, accidentally auto correct, how many times are you typing him, her? That, that auto correct, like, so auto correct picks up on, on your, it picks up on your trends, right? It picks up on something that you do often. So how often is he writing him, her like that, you know, pronouns. I, I don't know. I don't know, but he's totally based. So let's get into the conspiracy around. Mike Nellis says status is reporting that Fox fired Bartaromo after she leaked internal text to the White House showing the network had told staff to stop amplifying Trump's latest election conspiracy theories. Trump has so thoroughly captured the right-wing media ecosystem that its biggest stars now see themselves as his informants first.

And journalists never. It says here status has learned that her termination stems from an incident, not previous. reported that occurred in July after Trump delivered his unhinged primetime speech where he pushed conspiracy theories about the 2020 election making number one making a number of allegations against China I'm told Fox issued guidance to senior employees instructing them to steer clear of giving credence to Trump's delusional claims I'm also told the guidance was issued in writing and uh you know from there basically barteromo allegedly told the White House that she was told to steer clear of it. Dylan Byers at Puck says that the Maria Bartaromo backstory, she wanted to pursue a

story related to China in the 2020 election voting conspiracies. And Fox Business Executive sent a text to Fox business producers informing that they could not go to air with that. Barteromo took a screenshot of the guidance and sent it to the White House officials. Fox News leadership learned about that after receiving a call from the White House, which they viewed as a fireable offense. allegedly. Yeah. There's a lot of that that's really, I mean, the whole thing is impossible for me to believe, but that's because the individual parts of it are also impossible for me to believe.

And we've discussed some of those at length. Obviously, we, you know, reacted a few weeks ago to the information that Trump brought out in that, that primetime press conference, much of that information we had heard before. Much of it was, I think at this point, we can say, kind of oversold. I am maybe the leading proponent of the belief that elections are fake, but they're not stolen by China in the ways described in that report. I have no doubt that other countries are interfering in American elections, just like America's interfering in other countries' elections. But again, the issue is that the elections are fake. And in addition to that, you've got these little building blocks.

blocks like the Fox News issue with Dominion that's mentioned there. Fox is especially sensitive about spreading election rumors because they saw what could happen if they spread unsubstantiated election denial conspiracies, which mean they have to pay $787 million to Dominion. More than the Dominion company is worth by a long shot because they allowed rumors of Dominion's complicity in election theft to be spread on their airwaves by Tucker Carlson, who they then, quote unquote, fired. And now Tucker is once again working for a subsidiary of Murdoch. The Dominion lawsuit, Dominion's own documents in that lawsuit. Their discovery documents describe the fact that Dominion machines cannot be relied upon to produce accurate election results.

And so, like, there's five pegs we could kick out of the five. dominion story just like that and so we know that the fox dominion story is bullshit so the fox dominion story then becomes a building block for the reason maria barter romo is out at fox well i'm sorry that's not the answer and that can't be the answer and the stuff about uh trump's election uh election interference press conference a few weeks ago maria barter romo wanting to report on that all of that is nonsense this is a scripted tale about something they had planned to do and now marie Maria Bartaromo is gone from Fox and this is going to make everyone clamor.

Oh, we need to know what that document said. We need to figure out what Maria Bartaromo was going to release about the election broad and then the whole system's going to come grumbling down. I mean, all that stuff is bullshit. Agreed. Agreed. I think it's hilarious. I don't know if she'll ever come out and tell us why she was fired.

I mean, this story is just going to go by the wayside. I will say I'm not going to name the company because they shall not be named. But those odds look pretty good right there. Who Trump will pick is as an ex-press secretary. I think I would take her at nine cents on the dollar. So what is it? You bet nine cents and you could win a dollar? I think that's how that works, right?

Yeah, I have no idea how these things. I've looked at these things before and thought, this is for degenerates. Yes, this is where when AI takes a, takes over the world and UBI becomes either a thing or we wish it were a thing, this is how people are going to make their money. People are going to be out there doing prediction markets and like, oh, yeah, let's see if we can influence how this is going to turn out. I gather that that is already happening, particularly on sports. And people who win a few times on the gambling thing,

then they like take on the identity as professional gamblers and then they'll just pay attention. nonstop to all of these various subjects, believe that they are experts in these subjects and then proceed to bet them all, not realizing that all of these incidents and issues that they're betting upon are manipulated, that the outcomes are manipulated in the first place. So it's, unless you're taking the manipulation into account, I don't know how you do these things in a professional serious mode. I don't know, but I would definitely put a couple bucks if I was a gambling man, which I am not on prediction markets. I'll play some

cards. Yeah. But if I was, if I was a gambling man in prediction markets, I would put some money on barteromo being the press secretary. She'd be pretty good at that job, I think. Yeah. I'm not entirely convinced that that Trump needs or wants a new one, but, but yes, I gather that she could be a competent person in that role. She's certainly good. She has the knowledge background of all these stories, and she's certainly good on her feet and with political communications and the rest of it. So I can imagine that. But, you know, the other thing is we often think of press secretary as the man or woman who's standing at the front of the White House press room responding to the questions from reporters. But there's a lot more to it than that.

There's the whole back end and controlling White House comps and stuff. So I don't know that she would be expert at that part just based on the fact that she is a good television. you know, journalist slash script reader. I mean, she can't be much worse than Scott Jennings, who everybody's clamoring for right now. For sure. Yeah, she seems like a plenty competent woman is what I'm saying. I just don't know what her ultimate role is. And to take a journalist, quote unquote, and empower a mainstream media journalist to, like,

tell us what's the real truth about what's going on. I don't know why anybody wants that. Like, even if she is the most trustworthy mainstream media reporter who has ever lived, She's still like the mainstream media reporter caveat on that is it's like, okay, well, you know what? Let's find somebody else. Well, Trump's, uh, boy house correspondence dinner. We were talking about Stephen Chung and, and, and, uh, who's the other one?

Was it Levitt that he was talking about? Yeah, Caroline Leavitt. Yeah, saying they, they were blocking the media. I don't want them blocking the media. So maybe, maybe we do see some reform in the press, uh, in the press pool. Well, in the press secretary's office. Yeah. Uh, in terms of leadership.

But yeah, we'll see what happens. Let's jump into this story. Stay on elections here because Aswovena. From NBC News, Missouri Supreme Court rules new GOP drawn map cannot be used for November elections. This is after they already had the primary. This is insane. The court ruled that a referendum on whether the state can use the map going forward must be included on the November ballot, meaning that Missouri's fall elections will take place under its previous district lines.

The new map that they proposed was one that would have removed essentially Democrat, longtime Democrat in Congress, Emmanuel Cleaver. Missouri redrew its map in 2025. In response, people, not politicians, Missouri gathered more than 300,000 signatures to force a veto referendum. And while the group exceeded the signature requirements for getting on the ballot, the Missouri Secretary of State, Denny Hoskins, refused to certify it saying that it was unconstitutional. The ruling comes just days before the state's September 8th deadline to finalize its ballot for the general election. Judge Ginger K. Gooch. What a name. Wrote in her ruling, she's got, I'm trying to be professional right here, but Ginger Gooch.

Ginger Cooch. Ginger Cooch is a very difficult name to take serious. Yeah, the Marine of me is coming out. Bear with me. Let me regather my composure here for a second. Judge Ginger Gooch wrote in her ruling that she was restrained and she restrained and joined Missouri from implementing using or mandating the use of the congressional redistricting map in HB1, unless and until HB1 is approved by the voters at the November 2026 general election. Missouri Attorney General Catherine, Manaway vowed to appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court, quote, never before an American history has a court overturned a congressional map after a primary and before a general election. This unprecedented decision clearly violates federal law and has thrust our state into a full-fledged constitutional crisis. Now, before I move on to the next story, I got to agree here. So apparently, I don't know the laws in Missouri, but apparently if you get enough signatures,

the people can veto the legislature is what I'm gathering from this. And in doing so, they can force a vote for everybody to vote on whether or not a law is going to be vetoed. And therefore, they're able to overturn the unjerrymandering of the districts. this is very strange that the Supreme Court would jump in after the primary. You know, the damage has been done. When you look at what happened in Virginia, the reason the court didn't intervene in that one was because the process was still going on. Well, the process is still going on here.

You went from the primary. You still have the general election coming up. Just really strange that now all of a sudden they're going to be like, hey, you guys all voted in that primary election. This is who you chose. We're going to scrap all that and go back. to the way it was before. Well, primaries are certainly meaningless, and we saw that in 2024 on the biggest possible

stage, and no one, not no one, but very few people took the lesson from watching the fake president Joe Biden just be shuffled off stage after a debate before he was even the nominee of the party and be immediately replaced with no input from anyone with the fake vice president Kamala Harris. So, you know, we're going to keep seeing the system fall apart in every imaginable way. And it's on us to take the proper lessons from it. And if we refuse to take those lessons because we believe that our only salvation comes through our participation in fake elections, well, we're going to be here forever. We're going to get the hose again. That's what all that means. At some point, we have to take these lessons and understand that the process as it exists

cannot produce legitimate governments that can claim with any ability to substantiate the claim that they actually govern with the consent of the people of the governed. So, I mean, I don't know what else you can take away from this stuff. This late in the process, changing up the process, changing how all of it works, you can't get a result that should be trusted or respected by anyone. And then the logical conclusion would be, well, these elections better get canceled if we all agree on that. But the problem is we don't all agree on that. And no one believes there's a mechanism to cancel them.

So unfortunately, we have to see all of this. I think it's really interesting and not to, you know, filibuster here, but the bit, and I haven't researched this story. So please tell me if I'm misstating it, if you know. But the idea that citizens can veto the things that they're, their governments do should be plainly obvious because the authority that the governments require, even in their legitimate form, all of that is the people's delegation of authority to them. And so the people can rescind that delegation at any time. And if the people can't rescind that delegation, then we're not actually choosing the government.

The government exists beyond our consent. And that's actually where we are with our government. Can you vote that the government is going to stop? Can you vote that no one is going to go into a position that is on the ballot? And if you can't, then what are we voting for? They give us two options or five options or whatever it is, and we choose one of them, even if we want zero of them. So that's not the will and consent of the voter either.

So the system, it's also convoluted, but the entire thing is a mess. And it's got to be stripped down to nothing and replaced with either nothing, or something that the people can actually get behind. So I agree with you that there should be a mechanism for the people to push back against, you know, things like this happening. I just don't know that this is it. Sure. Because here's the thing.

So 300,000 signatures, right? I don't know how many people live in Missouri. I would assume, you know, several million, you know, probably four or five million. I don't know. But more than 300,000 certainly, right? That's not even a quorum of voters in Missouri. And so if you're able to get a petition together where you can collect and gather 300,000 signatures, and you're able to stall legislation from taking place until, and especially in relating to elections,

you're able to just basically subvert something happening because you were able to get a minority opinion or a minority petition signed to somehow push, this off on to the fake election right i mean we we all agree here that elections are uh easily manipulatable i just don't know if that's the way to go about doing it you know like gather 300 000 signatures and all of a sudden you can stop something from occurring after it's already occurred and that's the big takeaway from me on this like this judge should have ruled like this is this is a moot case the process has already begun we can't undo it unless we're going to redo the primaries and and and cancel our November 3rd election in Missouri and move it back past this and go back into the maps. Because I'm sure these maps will have effects on not just that particular district,

but obviously at least one other district is going to be affected because they're going to be, you know, redrawn. So I agree with you that we definitely need, I appreciate there being an opportunity for the people to, you know, push back against law. However, I mean, in a constitutional republic in its intended form, that's not really necessary, right? We entrust these people that we elect, assuming elections are real. We entrust these people to effectuate our policy. You know, if you want to overturn something that they do as a collective, you do that by voting them out of office, which, again, this is all under the assumption that elections are real. I don't know.

I just I this one's a hard one for me to get over and I can't get over ginger goch it's going to be hard to get over ginger goch I've I've heard that once you go ginger you never go back or something um gosh what was I going to say ginger goch is very distracting dude it's always getting angry at you um the uh the the the process gosh that's what we were talking I'm I'm trying to recall the point I was going to make. It's not working. That is the most tragic name I've ever seen.

It really is something. Yeah. And putting the middle initial K there did not help anything at all. That was deliberate. That was deliberate. So we're talking about the referendum and how they have. Yeah. So let's say that the primary process was run in an unconstitutional manner,

that the process itself was unconstitutional. If the process was then changed and then the court had to review it, the court should be reviewing it against the constitution. And so yes, part of the process was already, you know, accomplished in an unconstitutional manner. Do we now need to leave that in place so that we don't disrupt the midterm? I think that you just have to comport with the constitution all the time. Well, that brings up a really interesting argument as well. If this map was redrawn to align with the Calais decision at the Supreme Court, and the people are saying, we are disagreeing with the Supreme Court's ruling in Calais that you can't draw maps based on race, that brings up another interesting argument. I feel like this is a case that maybe Ash and I need to go through.

through on why we vote now, like actually read the arguments on this. And it seems to me that in most of these cases over the past few years, there's a lot more going on than we are like if you read the actual opinions and you read the filings and the rest of it, you and this is obvious. You will understand the case in a different way than if you just read the headlines and the analysis from mainstream. news. And so, yes, of course, and I know you guys do this all the time, but it seems like in a lot of these cases, there really is something else going on in the case. It's all for a different

purpose. And we don't get any hint of what that purpose might be when just reading the mainstream coverage. So yeah, if you do that, please let me know. I found that this morning and just on a side note here, I don't know if we're even going to get to the story or if I want to get to the story anymore, but there was a church, a Supreme Court ruling up in Maine. I don't know if you've seen this, but the headline is that the Supreme, well, essentially, that the Maine Supreme Court ruled that a mother cannot allow her daughter to attend a certain church, calling it a cult and like this other stuff, and it's Calvary Chapel up in Maine, Westbrook, Maine or something like that. And I looked at it, it seems like a normal church, doesn't seem like a, you know, culty or anything. But then,

And I, you know, this morning in prepping it, I was like, there has to be more to this story, right? And it's a divorce and there's a custodial disagreement. And the parents both have to decide on on a religious institution that the daughter can attend. They have to both agree on it. I don't know how old the daughter is. I think like early teens, like preteens, like 11, 12 years old, somewhere around there. But they can't go to that church. The Supreme Court's ruled.

Now I'm like, that's crazy that, you know, the mother, if the mother has primary custody, that's crazy that you're telling her she can't go to that church well then i went and looked at the the court filing and the church from the pulpit during mass was telling the the parish that her dad was going to hell because he didn't believe in you know certain things that they were saying and that he's going to burn for eternity and all that and i'm like that's pretty dramatic right there and you know what's up oh no i just said that's pretty dramatic right there I thought it was very funny. Yeah, right.

Like I, to me, like if, if, if, if, if I was, if I was divorced, which thank God I'm not, but if I was divorced and you had a priest or a pastor that was up there telling, you know, your, your, your daughter that is living with your ex-wife that your husband's going to hell because he doesn't go to the church and he doesn't believe in what you believe in. I don't know, man. I, so I, this is just a point that there's more to these stories than, you know, what is told in the headlines. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. All right. Let's jump back into the Aswavena portion. And Donald Trump, President Trump, put out on truth, the Missouri Supreme Court just ridiculously ruled in favor of changing the maps back to what they were a long time ago, like six months ago. Well, 2025, so I guess that is a little while ago. It's called ancient history. The problem is, according to legal scholars,

that not only was the ruling horrible, ridiculous, and unconstitutional. There won't be enough time to change the map back to the election coming up in a very short period of time. The election process, as usual, is being disturbed. In America, Missouri must be able to use the map that was in effect just a couple of months ago. In the primary, this is a dark day for justice in Missouri. Thank you for your attention to this matter. A lot of a dark day for quote unquote justice. Yeah.

It's kind of a very nuanced way to say, go back to what it was or you got to cancel the election man something's something's not right here it seems to me i i you know have talked about trump potentially canceling these elections for a long time and it seems to me that maybe they that he was kind of setting them up so that they would think that trump is going to cancel the elections and then he's going to allow them to go through with this charade on these terms so that absolutely no one believes in the legitimacy of the process. And I hope that's what he's doing. And I feel like maybe I'll get rugged on that again. But I hope that's what he's doing. I mean, and people are like, well, that's pessimistic. You want you want people to lose

faith in the elections. Yes, I want people to lose faith in the elections. You cannot put your faith in a government process you know to be corrupted under the guise that it's going to be not corrupted. because of our hopes and dreams. I mean, what does it mean? It's not going to be corrupted if they tell us enough people with little ours next to their names. One, then we can go back to sleep. Like, we're already past that point. The thing that people are scared of has already happened.

And now we have to get ourselves out of that scary thing. If it's already happened, there's no point in continuing to fear it. Like we need to engage the process to move forward. Just the appearance or the possibility of impropriety in our elections is enough to not trust the system to move forward. And, you know, just thinking off the top of my head, Russian roulette, right? Would you play Russian roulette knowing that there's a round in, you know, that six, eight chamber cylinder? and that one of those one time when you pull that chances are more than likely that it's going to be fine, it's going to be fine, but there's that one chance that you pull it that a bullet could rip through,

you know, and take care of business. Would you play that game? And the question, the answer should always be no. You would not play that game. But if you could look at it, you know, if you knew for certain that the chambers were empty and it was safe and secure and everything else, maybe maybe you'd consider it. I personally wouldn't, but maybe you'd consider it. Same thing with our elections, like saying like that, yes, the machine, we still have black box voting machines.

We have mail-in balloting that's going out completely and totally unaccounted for. We have no transparency in the process at the end of it. We have, you know, entry-level data technicians that are responsible for the IT surrounding the election infrastructure that are going up against state actors and nation-state actors that have billions of dollars, well, millions of dollars, I should say, maybe billions, to influence. our election all of those things when it's something that could you know fundamentally be done just on paper pen live streamed all that stuff hand counted handmarked paper ballots precinct level all the stuff that we've been saying for six years now maybe even longer for some it i'm with you the system is is fundamentally broken and um there shouldn't be trust in it because there is no way to have trust in it so yeah and you know just one little tag on that it doesn't mean that we want the

entire society to devolve into chaos and destruction, you know, and it doesn't mean that we are like unwilling to agree at some point to engage in, uh, in a government with our fellow Americans. You know, it's not like it's an extremist position. It's not even as radical as what the founders were doing. And of course, all of that has been overturned and overthrown. But now it's It's all. Now the ideologies of the founding, and a lot of the founding was a compromise ideology overcoming a much more liberty-oriented ideology, the constitution itself being a compromise. And we're supposed to pretend that all of that was far too radical, that we can get removed from polite society for expressing the same ambitions, motivations, ethics as the founders. Crazy.

You should, I would, I would highly recommend you go back and watch Tuesday nights why we vote. Okay. I mean, I would, me and Ash have been doing that show for four years now since Badlands Inception since day one. And it was by far, I think, the most important episode that we may have done Tim Canova. At least the most interesting for sure, yes. Canova? Is it Canova or Canova? Canova. He's a law professor

here at my alma mater in Broward County and he ran against Wasserman Schultz in 2016 and again in 2018 and had our supervisor of elections dead to rights, dead to rights with destruction of federal evidence and nobody prosecuted her

and went as far as removing her and then Ron DeSantis reinstated her that she could collect her retirement and she's now she's now dead she died in 2023 but just an absolutely fascinating interview so and and very much in line with our take to the point where you know at one point he's like I don't even know why I can tell how I can't tell people to vote I don't know how I can I still do for him and I'm in that same boat I still vote but I can't tell people to to vote and the funny thing is, you know, nobody should be going around telling other people what they have to do. The entire point of voting is each person expressing their own desires for the government. If somebody else

is like coercing you and badgering you to participate and participate in a certain way, well, then your perception and your desire for the government is already being skewed by somebody. It's, man, I mean, obviously, Obviously, I didn't think this 10 years ago. You know, so I get why people are not on this page when it comes to all this stuff. But good Lord, man. Let's jump into this story here because this is kind of like the antithesis of what we just read in Missouri. And this is from the Gateway Pundit, Patty McMurray, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh makes decision on emergency hearing on Michigan citizens only vote petition.

So this was a petition. Well, I actually go through the overview on this. So Justice Kavanaugh denied the American for Citizens Voting Michigan emergency requests that the U.S. Supreme Court order their proof of citizenship and photo ID amendment onto the November 3rd ballot. So they were trying to get to get this enshrined in the Constitution that you have to show proof of citizenship and voter ID. The ACVM group collected more than 700,000 signatures, well above the required 446,198 that were required. by by 254,000 they have a quarter of a million more signatures than were required and somehow it doesn't make it on the michigan board of elections allegedly took a quote unquote random sampling of 1,000 signatures signatures and determined that 17 keck did not meet the required standard comms totally calmed it's are in control guys trust the plan the attorneys for the petitioners were able to come up with 23 affidavits from individuals that were attesting that the signatures on the petitions

were theirs, which should have satisfied the Michigan Board of Canvassers' demand. However, two Democrats sitting on the board refused signatures that they both agreed were perfect matches with Michigan's qualified voter file, but dismissed them anyways. The two Democrat board members who were ACLU lawyers claimed that the signatures were received after the 10 a.m. deadline so they refused to accept them that right there should let you know that your government is illegitimate that it is enforcing the rules that it made up like these ridiculous arbitrary rules it's enforcing them against the people's own will that's that's insane sorry go ahead so i um i reached out to patty she's a colleague and a friend of mine at gateway and i reached out to her to get clarification

because i wasn't sure when i read it if the 23 affidavits were the seven people that were removed from the sample originally, right? Because if you have, if you have somebody coming in and saying that, well, because, okay, so it was 17 shy. There was a lot more than just the 17 that were signatures that were rejected. I should clarify that. Does that make sense? Sure. So out of a thousand people, I think there was like, I think there was something like 118 or something that were questionable signatures.

Well, and were rejected. And because of that, they were 17 shy of meeting that threshold that they needed to get this on the ballot in the sample in a sample a thousand is now able to dictate 700,000 yeah legitimacy of 700,000 polling is now dictating whether or not this is going to be on the ballot it's bonkers but they get 23 affidavits of people that were those rejected signatures saying hey my signatures are good which means those 23 affidavits should be reinstated meaning that's more than 17 this should be approved and this should go to the ballot and they said no so you have in michigan or excuse me in missouri you have the missouri supreme court

undoing a primary election acknowledging 300 000 people that that somehow are able to demand something goes to a referendum even though the action was taken in conjunction with a supreme court u.s supreme court decision that's okay but then in michigan you have 17 signatures but 23 that would overtake those that you you can't do. We can't possibly have this referendum on the ballot for the amendment. It's it's bonkers, man. Crazy. I'm with you. I don't know how else, but uh, all right. Last, I think this is the last story on elections. This is not the last story on elections because Adam Carolla dropped a dime yesterday and I want to get your take on this. Albuquerque Journal, Supreme Court rejects Democrats'

effort to run legislative fill in candidates. Unpopular opinion with the conservatives out in New I think this is crap. I think this ruling sucks. So listen to this. The New York Supreme Court blocked Democrats' attempts to get fill in candidates on the ballots. Why do you have to fill in candidates on the ballots? Excuse me for write-in candidates. Let me preface this. It says this is after the deadline for write-in candidates has already passed. Now, maybe they erred here in writing right-in candidates, but you don't have to have to be a right-in candidate. you don't have to have your paperwork filed in like people write mickey mouse okay he i think he's like the third most vote getter outside of the uh whatever uh anyways so um yeah i kind of butched that

when i said fill in candidates filling candidates are okay you you got to get those people across unless of course it's camilla harris running for joe biden when he drops out of the race but you know that's they can i guess just choose who the democrats are going to put there in a prime primary. But yeah, it says the divided ruling, oh, sorry, I took that down. The divided ruling in the state's highest court means Republican candidates will get a free ride in the two of the districts as the filing deadline for right in candidates has already passed. Again, I think that might be a typo. I think that might be a typo. At issue is whether Democrats met a statutory deadline to replace Joseph Hernandez and Elise Falunga Taylor on the November general election ballot, Hernandez, a first term incumbent,

had planned to seek re-election to his house district four seat, but he suspended his campaign after police reports and eyewitness testimony said that a late-night disturbance at a Chicago hotel involved him running around naked and banging on hotel doors. Wow. It sounds like a party time. Sounds like a party. And San Juan County Democrat, uh, excuse me, a similar story played out in Sandavall County where Democrats tried to replace Falanga Taylor.

Now, when they said similar, I'm thinking like something scandalous happened with her. She got tied to a very horrific event that occurred with her ex, but doesn't say any details about what it was. So it had to be pretty bad. Your ex had to have done something pretty bad to make you drop out of a race. But yeah, my biggest gripe with that is, you know, the filling candidate, I'm okay with that. If there's a deadline for filling candidates and they drop out within that deadline. But if there's actually a deadline for write-in candidates, that's crazy. That is, yeah, that seems very odd. So, and then the last thing, I want to play this clip here with Adam Carolla, because, you know, I agree in part with him on this.

I disagree with him on other parts, but I'll play this. I'll give you the first crack at this. Or on infrastructure, if you are not participating in any of it, in any meaningful way, and you pay no taxes, then, fuck you. I don't want you to vote. You don't need to vote. We don't need your vote. Your vote is more free shit for you. That's all it is because you're not paying into the system. So not only is it a thing where it's like you're not creating anything. You're actually voting for the free stuff. You're like, oh, how's this person with no ID going to vote on the millionaire tax? Oh, but fucking pay up. It's just the selfish motive.

I want more free shit. Yes. You're fucking poor. You're not. contributing, you're not paying any taxes. I know how you're going to vote on everything. It's going to be more free shit for you. So no. And we do this thing where I go, prisoners aren't allowed to vote. And I go, yeah, because they're not part of our society. They're detrimental to our society. And I don't know what the legalese, but we all basically agree that if you are a purse snatcher and robbing homes and punching grandmas and you're incarcerated, we don't need your vote. And the answer is, why not? still American citizens, they're human beings, why shouldn't they vote? Because they're not helping

our society and I don't want their vote. I'll give you the first crack. I mean, I don't like there are levels under that that I would start at the first being that elections are fake. So to me, I was going with taxes, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, do they contribute? No, I agree with, I agree with him in principle. Just practically, I don't think any of that matters. So, yeah, to me, I mean, the taxes is a big thing. And we, me and Ash, you know, covering creature from Jekyll Island, the taxes are forced, indentured servitude, essentially.

And paying for something that there's no accountability to us paying for, right? Like, you wouldn't go to a business continuously buy from that business. And every single time you buy something from that business, it's not at all what they represented to you. It breaks, it falls apart. You can't get a refund for it, but yet you have to continue paying them at gunpoint. You have to continue paying them for it. And that's a system where you can't, you can't participate in that system, right? We just passed $41 trillion in debt, and they continue to pass resolutions that have no accountability to that debt. Meanwhile, we have to continue paying taxes. And every once in a while, they start this argument with us about,

oh, we're going to cut your taxes. I don't want you to cut my taxes. I want you to cut the deficit and cut all the spending that you're giving out. And that is where Corolla's point comes in to play here. So again, fundamentally, I disagree with Corolla because I don't think we should be paying taxes. But, you know, taking what he's actually saying, I think there's a good point there. And when we first pass, you know, prior to the 19th amendment, when we first had voting in this country, the only people that voted were landowners. Yeah. And there was a reason for that because the land. owners were the people that ran that community. They were the people that had a vested interest

in what was going on there. The people that didn't own land were rovers, you know, whatever, and they would go from town to town, and people would roll in just to get some, you know, a particular amendment passed or resolution passed or a particular candidate elected. There was a reason for it. Now, we can make arguments all day long. We've evolved now. We have apartments, people rent, you know, things like that. And they're actually members of a community. I get that. But if you allow people that don't pay into a system, whether or not you think the system is legitimate or not, if you allow people that don't pay into a system to continue voting for who's going to distribute the funding in that system, they're going to vote

for whoever gives them the most money. That's always in their nature, always. And so, yeah, I agree with him and I also strongly disagree with him. Yeah, I think it's important to have skin in the game if you're going to be contributing to the decision-making process. Now, is landowner the right way to go about that now? I think there's probably good arguments on both sides of that. We would certainly have a society arranged much differently if only landowners were making those decisions. But then again, you know, the elections are fake. If we had legitimate elections and everybody was weighing in on real issues that they were. were really informed about, I think our society would be just fine. But you need all those things. You know, it's not like even if we had a perfect election system and you and I who are two of the harshest critics of the election system could agree that this is as close to perfect as an election system could get, that doesn't cure any of the manipulation from like foreign ops, fake news, fake polling, online censorship, the influence of AI, you can just go down

item after item through a long list of ways that the process is influenced that would distort the image of what a well-governed America would look like and what the people actually want. So, and again, this isn't to like depress anybody. It's just a more complicated problem. And we want to be able to see and then illustrate for others the contours of the problem so that we can actually address them. That is the optimistic approach. That says we believe there is a solution somewhere out there in the future. But getting to that point requires us to understand and successfully complete every one of the tasks along the way to that point.

And it seems like we're just unwilling to do that. We want to believe that the problem is solved so that we can move on with other things. Well, if you want to move on with other things, it is your right as an independent and free American to say the hell with the government and make sure that you live your life well. And there's an argument to be made that that's what we should all be doing in the first place. No, no, Chris, you silly goose, you have to give up your rights. Yes. We should handle. These things could be handled in ways that would at least be satisfying to people if we handled them at the local level. And then the local levels represented the actual interest to the people to the next level up, you know, your, your little town, to your county, to your state, or however it's arranged in an individual state or commonwealth or whatever. And then that goes to the federal government if we need a federal government. But yeah, man, we are going about these things in the wrong direction. We should next to never feel the impact of our federal government.

Next to never. That's right. Yeah, they're supposed to defend the nation, call together the militias in the individual. states to defend the nation and govern interstate commerce. You mean, why are they, and we're going to get into some of what the government is doing later, but Trump had a post a day or two ago about, I think about the universities or something. And it's like, why is the federal government, why does the federal government have any relationship with these universities in the first place?

And the universities supply all of the kind of intellectual and philosophical foundation for how the government is going to run. They essentially make the high level argument about why the power of the state should be constantly increased. And they're being funded by the state to do that. That's a disaster. Alpha and I talked about this yesterday because there were some stories that just came out about Ohio State University being one of a growing number of universities that got a slap on the wrist for not disclosing ties to China. like professors that had ties to the Thousand Tides programs and these other spy agency programs at Ministry of Security in MSS in China that are operating on our soil and not disclosing that.

And they got a $2 million, Ohio State got a $2 million fine for doing this. Okay, over the course of 10 years, an accumulative fine of $2 million, just in 2024 alone, they took in $81 million from the National Science Foundation, federal funds. So, you know, you look at this and it's like it's it's crazy. And then getting into what you were just saying that the federal government is still subsidizing them. And these are the people that are telling us what we need to do with the federal government, like what the federal government, what their authorities are, what they should be able to do. And they're also completely and totally dependent on the federal government for their existence.

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Let's get into the World War III narratives. All right. First up, Trump says he'll ask Europe to pay back the U.S. for munitions sent to Ukraine. And this is Politico saying that the federal government will ask Europe to pay it back. President Trump will ask, said that the federal government will ask Europe to pay it back from munitions given to Ukraine under Biden. And this is, it's funny how like when it's something that they want to cede an idea with, they will quote President Trump on truth social. Otherwise, they pretty much ignore the things that he says on truth social. So quote, hundreds of billions of dollars was

given to Ukraine and NATO free of charge that Europe would have paid for if they were only asked, but we will be asking for that money, though somewhat, what belatedly Trump wrote on truth social. As of late July, the U.S. military has used some 1,500 of its Patriot Air Defense interceptors since the start of the war, leaving it with under 1,000 in stock, according to Chris's favorite, the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The stock of terminal high altitude area defense, thad interceptors, meanwhile, has fallen from 452 to well under 300.

Quote, the people in media outlets that keep harping on the fact that we have no ammunition and they are 100% wrong are actually treasonous, Trump wrote on truth. They do it because they would rather see the United States lose a war that we are easily winning than see me win. So there's step one there. Yeah, that last part sounds right. I was reading in the New York Times today. They had a headline on the front page about a man named Kirilo Budinov, who is, I guess, the chief of staff for the comedic actor in Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky.

The headline was, after fighting Russia fiercely, he wants to forge Ukraine's path to peace. And it's funny because they talk about him about halfway down the article. They say during a long simmering war in eastern Ukraine that began in 2014, Mr. Budanov led commando raids behind enemy lines, including one that killed the son of a Russian general in combat. Then they go on to say he served in a CIA-trained unit in Ukraine's defense intelligence agency and that he was, after he was injured by a machine, shattering his elbow, he was treated at Walter Reed, medical center in Maryland. Wow.

Yeah, it's kind of incredible, the stuff that they will just let go. Yeah. Here one second. Because I'm pretty sure I just talked about him yesterday, Boone off. And you saw the story about the SBU and the H-U-R fighting each other in Keeve? I did not, but give me the short version. There's a video of SBU and H-U-R, which are the military intelligence versus the military intelligence they got into a gunfight with each other on in the streets and one guy got killed and two

others injured and it was allegedly over a russian backed captive you know i don't i don't know if i've seen the whole story yet but let me we should have we should uh we should write a stage play that's like west side story but between the factions of ukrainian intelligence let me see that'd be a huge hit let me see if I could find this real quick I'm going to do this in real time what's the guy's name Lodomir Zelensky can do the choreography and lead them in the dances how do you spell Boudinoff B UD okay that's what I thought you D a N-O-V all right so here is okay so let me pull this up and uh it says the SPU is run by Alexander Paukland Pocklad and the third person to occupy the office

Karel Boudinov Zelensky's mercurial head of office and lifelong intelligence operative headed the H-U-R from 2020 to 2026 before taking up his role as Gray Cardinal and Bancova. Gray Cardinal. Is that like the mockingjay? Like, it's the Hunger Games? Yeah, I don't know, buddy. That's pretty good, though.

Vladimir Zelensky's head of office, Karel Boudinov, decried the tribal gun violence between services while his boss threatened all civil aviation in Russia. Zelensky himself later fired a seniorist. official and declared a probe into the matter would be undertaken. Where else does it mention him? The HUR has issued a similar statement, but later removed it. Budenov told the media that, quote, nobody has the right to abduct military service members,

start shootings in the streets of our cities, or issue executive criminal orders. Okay, so it seems like he was just commenting on this fight. One last thing for the New York Times article, they also mentioned that this Budenov fellow spoke regularly with Evgeny progosian the gregarious and murderous founder of the Russian mercenary company Wagner um so I did all him the late progosian that's right yeah he was they did know they did mention that he was um killed in a plane crash and at that point I did an episode of my show this is three

years ago now, basically exactly three years ago, called TMFINR, like this MFER is not real, because Carillo, sorry, not Karilo Boudinov, Evgeny Progogian was like a film director and Putin's chef. There was a big write-up on him in the Hollywood reporter. And what they do is essentially go around filming war scenes, which is crazy. But I don't know if you've watched the show on Paramount the agency. It's like Michael Fastbender and Jeffrey Wright. They are in the London office of the CIA doing various ops and training agents and handling agents and the rest of it. And so in the first season, they set up this young female agent.

She's getting sent off to Iran. And so in the second season, which I just watched, they're basically constituting a nuclear weapons program. in Fordow and Natanz, and they have to shut down that whole thing. And then the other plot of the show is the head of a Russian mercenary group called Valhalla, not Wagner, Valhalla. And it's basically the same story that he's just going through central Africa, taking over all of these nations. And all of this is very bad for the United States.

So they need to go in and assassinate the leader of, this group and listen man it is incredible that something like that could happen and be in production at the same time those very safe things are happening in the real world it's crazy how does it happen i like i you know i've been talking about this a lot because the show is damning is uh the lioness show the taylor really okay i haven't seen that yet bro 10 out of 10 you have to watch it it's fantastic it's fantastic even even if you don't look at it as pretty predictive programming and all the other stuff. The show itself is fantastic, like really, really good.

Okay. And season three right now is smacking on Ukraine. I mean, one of the most intense combat scenes I've seen in cinema without going full gore was this raid that they did in Ukraine and the drone swarms and artillery and everything else. Fantastic show. 10 out of 10 recommend. Okay, but let's get back to the World War III narrative.

So we just talked about. Trump calling on the EU, the European countries, to pay back the United States for all the free weapons we gave to Ukraine. Now we get this story, SpaceX, Blue Origin, ditch Macron's space summit after White House pressure for U.S. space companies said that they would skip Macron's Space Summit in Paris next week after coming under pressure from the President Trump administration. SpaceX, Musk's, SpaceX, Bezos, Blue Orange, or Origin, Blue Origin, Rocket Maker, Stoke, Space, and Star Cloud, a startup that's trying to launch data centers in space, notified French authorities that they would be canceling. Quote, it is hard not to draw a connection to the rumors of pressure that have been circulating in the press. We obviously want to continue working with our American partners and allies, even if strategic shifts and political pressures sometimes make the task unnecessarily complex,

says a French official, of course, given anonymity. The event comes at a time of strained relations between Europe and the U.S., including over space policy. Washington is lobbied against the European Commission's EU Space Act, a proposed rulebook for space activities that the U.S. sees as targeting American companies by imposing EU rules on them. Six French space and industry officials told Politico that they were not surprised by what they described as a classic Trump move. The U.S. administration has repeatedly tried to torpedo multilateral initiatives

ranging from global climate measures to quitting the World Health Organization while also trying to block any European effort to reduce reliance on U.S. companies. This is so typical of Trump, said a space company official, who will be participating in the summit. Like others in the story, they were granted anonymity. Trump likes to belittle Europeans and even more Macron,

who somehow embodies European leadership. Yes, they have made him the avatar of European leadership. They have. Because they're the only... They're the only... Like ragdoll when they shake hands. Sorry, go ahead. But they're the only known EU nuclear power.

I mean, Britain obviously has nukes were told but they're not part of the EU anymore. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and by known nuclear power, what we really mean is claimed nuclear power. They say that. There's no reason to actually believe that,

but we do believe it. I was actually just writing about this problem yesterday. It's mind-blowing. I was comparing it to children's ghost stories, like the stories you tell around a campfire, like the guy with the hook on his hand, that the hook's just in the car door when you get home, right?

And when you're... Was that from that? Yeah. I think it was like an old classic tale before that movie. But my point is, like when you're seven years old, you are told these things and you don't think, well, hey, maybe the person telling me this story doesn't actually have any direct knowledge of this story. Maybe they're making it up.

Does this story comport with how I know reality to operate? Like, is this a reliable narrator? Is there any proof that this story happened? then the whole story is told to appeal to the sensibilities of a child and what would scare a child because you're not going to tell a child about something that would scare an adult at around a campfire. You know, they're not going to tell them like the plot for the first act of zero dark 30 where some some Arab is getting tortured in a cage, right? That's not like the appropriate conversation for a children's campfire. So we would never believe any of those stories because they're not scary.

And the narrator is reliable. And this is not how we know the world to work and operate. Except when the news tells us a scary story about a magical bomb and some desert people who need to be annihilated before they build the magical bomb and then bring it here to destroy us. But we believe that. even though all of the conditions are exactly the same. Is that how the world works? Well, not really.

Are the narrators reliable? No, not at all. And you just go down this checklist and you're like, wait a second. They're just telling me a ghost story and I'm believing it. And that's really where we're at. Yep. And the fearmonger is drumming right back up now. Yeah.

We were just talking about this yesterday and last night. And the Cold War propaganda is it's not even a Cold War now. it's like an electric war now with all the data centers. I thought it was interesting that one of the companies that boycotted is building or, or trying to engage with building data centers in space. I think that is where data centers will end up going is in space. But here's the thing I wanted to ask, because that's the second story where we've seen like this kind of fracture between the US and EU nations, European nations, I should say European

because it's not all EU. Can you name a space company from Europe? Can I know? Yeah. Well, I mean, I might recognize the name of a company from Europe and not realize it's from Europe, but no, not offhand, no. Can anybody in the chat name a major player in the space industry in Europe? I don't know of one.

I mean, when I think a space right now, I mean, obviously I'm American, but I'm also in the news business. I do this for a living. I'm not specifically in, I'm not specifically in, you know, space, but I can tell you about SpaceX. I can tell you about Blue Origin, but I can't name any European. So why the hell does Europe think they have the right to regulate us in any way,

shape, or form about space, you know, like rules in space, which is crazy to me in the first place. Leonardo Spa new cases. Yeah, I guess sure. Leonardo Spa in Italy. SBA. Just so that people don't get confused. Just so people don't get confused about this is like a spa. We go there and we get our shoulders row. Yeah, exactly. We get the the facials. Yeah. All right. So here's the next story here. And this one comes from the Hill. And we got comment from President Trump on this. Argentina's Javier Malay escalates Falkins dispute, Falklands dispute, seizing on Trump's comments and oil tensions, quote, the United States is considering this change in position, recognizing the sovereignty

of the or remaining neutral in this situation, is considering this change in position because it knows that Argentina has a reliable partner aligned with Western values in a strategically important position that can be a valuable ally in the decades to come, Mala said. The Argentinian leader then announced sweeping actions aimed at stopping the development of the Deep Sea Sea Lion Oil Project about 140 miles north of the Falkland Islands, where British company rockhopper exploration and Israel's Navitas Petroleum plan to begin drilling in the coming months and start pumping oil in 2008. Argentina considers the project an illegal exploitation of resources and waters that it claims are as its own. Quote, Argentina will not stand idly by, Malay said.

Any further advance on the Malvinas Islands will be considered a violation of our national security. UK Defense Secretary West Streeting said that Britain's commitment to the Falkland Islands was quote unquote unshakable. Malay's effort to refocus attention on the Falklands are a striking turn for a leader who has faced criticism at home for warming ties with Britain and professing admiration for Margaret Thatcher, the British Prime Minister detested in Argentina for leading the campaign to retake the archipelago during the 1982 Falklands War. I thought this was fascinating. Yes. This is, you know, the Falklands is going back to 82, so 40, 44 years now is if we have 44 years now has been claimed as a british territory malay is saying dude i can

see them from our shore it's it's it's it's ours okay it's ours if you want to fight for it sure let's let's do this but the the craziest part about this is we we've seen malay you know he kissed the wall he has the little yamika all that's and this is going against an israeli company that's over there doing this British and Israeli companies that are trying to drill oil there. Before I hand it over to you on that and get your take, President Trump was on GBN and had this to say about the situation. Oh, wait, nope, that's not it. Hold on. Sorry guys. He is presented at Bev Turner yesterday. Here's what he had to say. We're worried at the moment in the UK about the Falklands and your friend Javier Miele has said that he's going to make a statement,

I think tomorrow night about the Falkland Islands. The US has always been neutral on this issue, but would you come to the aid of the UK? Are you saying they want to claim the Falklands? Yeah. Well, look, I was there when they had the first war. That was a long time ago, and I watched it so carefully. And you comported yourselves very well.

You took it back pretty strongly, but it's a long way away. That's a big trip. It's a long way. So your country's not doing well. Don't forget, you get a big percentage of your oil from the Strait of Hormuz, and you weren't there to help me. Your country was not there to help me.

So, you know, again, using the absolutely totally real war in the Strait of Hormuz as the litmus test, Britain wasn't there, Spain wasn't there. who else, as he said, wasn't there to help him and kind of, you know, kind of rebuked them as a result of that. Another, you know, example here. But then, you know, this goes back to the multipolar spheres of influence that he wrote about in the national security agenda, whatever it was called. I can't remember what it was. But he's telling you guys, that's a long way.

That's 8,000 miles that you guys would have to travel to defend that particular place right there. It probably should be with the place that's a short little boat right away. Yeah. And this is one of the patterns I've been tracking for years when it comes to these little territories off of either sharing a border with or off the coast of these much larger countries where the small territory is claimed by one of these European powers. And I guess occasionally the United States in some regard, maybe we'll get to the point where we see some of that. But, you know, Ukraine fits that pattern. Taiwan fits that pattern. Guyana, which will be an issue with Venezuela.

That's part of that pattern. Falklands with Argentina is another one. And we can probably, I would bet that we could find somewhere between 20 and 50 more of these in much smaller instances. Because there are so many places. And, you know, the Ceuta thing a couple weeks ago in, what is that, Morocco? that was being quote unquote invaded by migrants from the country where that territory actually exists. And, you know, that one I guess is.

Yeah. And I get that like nations have claims to these pieces of land. And so someone else is then invading. But if they have claimed through acts of war, for instance, or I guess maybe place, political coercion, although that's probably a weaker case. But if they've claimed these territories through acts of war and then the country that used to have them is able to claim them back and the global entity, this empire, no longer has the enforcement mechanism of the United States military to keep all of these territories

under the control of that global entity, well, then what business do they have claiming that that is their territory? You know, you got to be able to hold it. And if it's 8,000 miles away and the country whose people live in that territory, essentially, want to claim back that territory and you can't defend it, I don't know how else that's supposed to result other than Argentina taking back the Falklands, Russia taking back Ukraine if it wants Ukraine, China taking back Taiwan if it wants Taiwan, et cetera. Greenland? Sure. Greenland comes in, Taiwan. Another one.

Yeah. I mean, there's so much of this. And so you think about the Monroe Doctrine and the United States exercising some control over the Western Hemisphere, North and South America. If we are in a real way going to be split off from the global British Empire, then we are going to be taken care of this hemisphere. Having the British Empire own various territories around Central and South America and, you know, Canada is not a workable. situation. The question is, does all of this get resolved through a world war? And also, what does a world war mean? That's a I don't think. So let me let me play this last show this last article right here. That's very interesting. Royters, Norway seizes Russian ship, sparking anger in

Moscow to compensate a Ukrainian energy firm. Norwegian authorities have seized a Russian ship in the Arctic on behalf of Ukrainian energy company, NAFTO gas, which is seeking $4.22 billion in compensation awards for assets that Moscow took when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014. Officials said the vessel, the professor Molkanov, was seized on Wednesday in Barentsburg, a coal mining settlement that Russia operates on the Norwegian Arctic archipelago of Zvalbard under the terms of a 1920 treaty. Russia called it an act of piracy and said it had summoned the Norwegian ambassador to deliver a strong protest.

Quote, amid the restrictive measures imposed by Norway against Russia on Svalbard, measures that violate international law, Russian organizations and citizens operating on the archipelago are effectively under blockade. It said, accusing Norway of violating the treaty. Norway said it would propose ways for crew members. and passengers and others to travel home if they want to. Nafto gas has been pursuing Russia since 2016 to seek compensation for the expropriation of its property in Crimea, an arbitration court in the Hague ordered Russia in April of 2023 to pay Nafto gas $4.2 billion plus interest in legal costs.

Russia has said it does not recognize the court's jurisdiction in this case, and that is not going to pay. So again, another escalation in the, you know, opposing sides here, Russia and a NATO country in Norway with Norway seizing a Russian, it says a cruise ship. I don't know if it's like a cruise ship or, right, when we had that scare of the virus like earlier this year, that they said was a cruise ship. It was actually like a scientific expeditionary unit. It wasn't a cruise. So I wonder if it's along those lines, the professor Malkinov, it sounds. It sounds. more like a scientific expeditionary unit, which means probably spies and who knows what else they're doing on that ship. But yeah, coming out and saying, hey, we don't, we don't honor them, you know,

but you seized our ship and that's an act of war, it seems like, I don't know, just everything's, everything's getting spicy, man. Sure is. Right before a fake election too. Yes. Also, also, So if you look at all these stories, except that last one, it's mostly the U.S. abandoning Europe in this regard, right? Telling them you have to pay for the Ukraine war. We are pressuring our space companies that are very dependent on U.S. contracts. We're DOD contracts. We're pulling them out of your space summit. We're telling you that if you go to war over the Falkland Islands, we might not remain neutral.

You know, there's a possibility. When you see all of that, like, is, is this an escalation in the effort to get to a war? Or is this Trump showing them, you better tread lightly. You're not going to have us there to back you up all the time. Like, we're going against you on these issues here. Like, we don't agree with you on these issues. There is a disproportionate, a disproportionate financial burden put on the United States in NATO. The EU is not, you know, doing anything to back us.

up or to help us in any way, shape, or form. In fact, you've got now potentially Greece and Turkey going at each other, potentially. I think Trump is saying, hey, we're not going to fuck around with this anymore. And NATO, like the writing's on the wall. NATO's dead. NATO's done. I don't know. Yeah, I hope a lot of these global governance bodies are done. But also part of that, and I think John and I talked about this a little bit the other day, a lot of this stuff, man, we are in the middle right now. I think Ash will cause it a, what is it, a transformation. I'm going to misstate her phrase.

But it's from her time in the business world when a transition process or something like that. We're in that, we're in that whole great reset. And our systems are being changed over. We're getting the new form. We're moving away from the old form into the new form. Some of that is reversing to how. it was before, of course, but you just, you watch the process take place. I don't believe that that process has stopped. And so then it's really just a matter of what is going to be in control of these

new systems and organizations once they're locked in because it doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like they're being stopped. All this stuff is scripted to change over. And so is, is Trump in control of these things and steering it off in a different direction? Do the people understand these new organizations and arrangements in such a way that they take control of them and steer them in a different direction. I mean, it's kind of like a jump ball and we're going to see who comes down with it. I, you know, again, I think that when you read those stories and you look at them, I mean, they're all coming out within the last two or three days. And again, I don't think, I think if you were to go to like your normal, even podcast news channels, they're going to put

those messages out there as this is disruption in the global order and this is going to lead to some sort of conflict. But I think at the same time, this just exposes how vulnerable these places actually are and how dependent on the United States that they actually are. And if they don't have the backing of the United States, and again, I think that the goal of the mockingbird media is some sort of a global conflict. And, and, you know, know we're we're we're due for a turning i said this when we were covering the fourth turning if you look at just the the the turnings you know 80 year periods going back to the american revolution we are due for another turning american revolution 1770s the civil war 1850s and 60s the

world war two 1940s every single one of those is an 80 year block well from the 1940s we're right smack dab in the next 80 year block and here we are with this world war and i've been saying this for a couple of years now and me and ash of course did forth turning uh on badlands book club recently we we are due for some sort of a global conflict and a re reimagining as they'll call it of of a world order and um you know i was talking i was actually after the show uh last night alfa and i were talking and um i don't see a way that we come out of you know this tech revolution and everything else without some sort of a global order. Now, don't think New World Order, you know, don't think, I'm not saying

that, but there has to be some sort of a re-alignment. Now, that realignment can be exactly what President Trump proposed about the multipolar spheres of influence, where, you know, there is a, you know, kind of unwritten agreements between the United States, Russia, China, and, you know, whoever's going to kind of take the Western European nations, whether it's France, Britain, whatever, This is all going to happen in the next, I don't know, maybe three, four years. And I think that we're seeing the expedited program to get there. So I'm going rante here. I'll land that there.

Oh, that's good. Wait, one last thing I want to mention. The Lake America thing, I think that we're getting a good lesson on the fact that maps can simply be redrawn. And if that map remains this way, children who are born today and are educated on geography in American schools are going to understand that that is Lake America. It's not going to be Lake Ontario to them and Donald Trump messing around with with names. It's going to only be Lake America. And we have been educated on maps that were similarly designed.

It's another level of the structure just collapsing as soon as we realize that it's not what we thought it was. We thought there was some global authority that tells us and that everybody has agreed to where all these lines are drawn. Turns out that no, just the map makers draw them where they want sometimes and then just try to enforce that into reality. So I think that the Lake America thing is another great example of that. It's a fantastic Gulf of America. Same thing. Yeah, exactly. One of the other points that we were talking about, and I said this yesterday on Daily, I didn't really get into it last night afterwards.

but one of the things I said is that we are along the same lines of you with the with the lake of America and future generations not knowing it is Lake Ontario we are we are the last generation you me Alpha you know most of our colleagues here at badlands maybe not john he's a little bit younger than us but we are among the last generation that is ever going to know a world a transitional world from no internet to where we're at right now we're the only we're the only generation that grew up with that in the middle of that transition you know what i mean you might be able to say uh you know the the boomers were experienced it but they weren't the teenagers and the and the kids going through the school system as this was happening yeah and they weren't the the early adopters of the

technology by and large i mean right my dad worked with computers so i had early exposure uh to computers and stuff and so then you know we got the the modem the dial-up modem. But my dad wasn't like, I don't think that he was particularly common in that regard for the people in his age group. But it was kind of, I don't know, once we got into junior high,

at least for me, I'm a little older than you. Once we got into junior high in high school, then people started getting online. But this was like America Online used to send, they used to mail little CDs to people's houses so that they would install the program. their dial-up modem what's that 500 free hours i know gosh it was crazy uh but yeah so i was i was in third grade when we got the first uh no excuse me i was in second grade when we got the first

access to no actually i take it back i was it i was in middle school because i was in portables when we got the first access and i was playing like echo the dolphin online and and like you know this crazy brainwashing global climate change video game that was actually really fun but but My point is that we went through that transition. The kids that are growing up today are going through the transition of having, you know, internet that we're accustomed to right now and going full-blown artificial intelligence. And, you know, the access to AI and AI being a part of their life. Our world, by the time, Chris, you and I are, you know, God willing, on our deathbed,

the world is going to look so different from how it does right now. Like, I don't even think we'll be able to imagine what it's, going to look like in 30, 40 years. I really don't. And so that was the kind of point that I was making. And we are in that turning. And I think that 80 year cycle that they talk about that Strauss and how talk about in the fourth turning is because it takes a couple generations to forget about how the old world actually was. And that that's to your point about Lake America, you know, maybe this generation that's, you know, in school right now will know it as Lake Ontario, but their kids won't.

Their kids will know it as like America. Unless, you know, of course, we'll see what happens after President Trump. But yeah, I'll land that there unless you have anything else to add there. No, I think all that is right. I think that's a very salient point. And I think that we should be mindful of these things because maps were changed before we were born too. You know, I still remember Czechoslovakia. Now it's just checking the Slovakia.

Yeah. And there was a day where Israel didn't exist. Yeah, there was. I don't remember that, but guess, well, anyways, breaking news, Ash just texted me. There's a officially declared a mistrial in the Lindsay Clancy case. Oh, after five days, I guess, of them not being able to come to an agreement. And Yugoslavia, another one, Wolf Barney in the chat just pointed out. And me and Ash talk about this, and it'll be unpopular in this take here,

but I will go along with John Drake 100% on this and that if you cannot convince all 12 jurors that she is either guilty or not guilty, then you default to, there is reasonable doubt there. And she should be free to go. Although I don't think in this case, I don't think they're arguing whether she's free. I think it's just whether she goes to prison or whether she stays in a mental hospital. I believe. I believe. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, this ain't my thing, as you might be able to guess. But hey, you know, we're going to get round the clock coverage of court cases because they serve to get everybody back on the same page. They are exceptional at creating a controlled opposition dynamic,

especially when an issue is like this one and so divisive. And you get the two sides really to just come together. Oh, those other people are evil. It's like, hey, guys, you're watching Fox News all day. Haven't we talked about this? Yeah. Just real quick, I saw a comment in the chat. Shully said, we need to handwrite our memories of not having internet put it into writing so it can't be changed digitally.

A thousand percent. People, that's something that's lost. And that's, that's by, that's by intent as well. You know, they don't teach cursive in school anymore. And the reason for that is because, you know, eventually they want you just putting all your thoughts onto digital format. Because once it's on digital format, you can manipulate it in any way, shape, or form that you see fit. I read an article the other day about how CDs for music are kind of coming back into style, which is not to say that they're going to be like the dominant thing or anything like that.

It was just that like the sale of CDs as a music listening format had increased last year, which the idea of that increasing at all ever again was something I would have never considered. I get the people like vinyl. Yeah, yeah. And vinyl's super cool, but it has. kind of unique characteristics about the sound of the music the CD doesn't have that um but we're going back into something physical and i was thinking you know the same complaint that people make when vinyl was translated into the CD now it's all just this file now it really is only a file i am

a huge music fan and always have been and i used to have like hundreds and hundreds of CDs now i have a box that I have taken on like the it hasn't really been opened for like the last 10 years it just moves around to the different places I live and all the rest of my music is in totally digital formats. But if all that if all those digital formats just drop one day out of the cloud and I no longer have access to the music, most or not most, but a lot of the music I listen to all the time is just gone. It's just gone. And so I can imagine people wanting to. And so I can imagine people wanting to have physical copies of that stuff. And then just one other little thing about that.

Yesterday, all the large language models dropped at the same time and we're just down. That is so, so weird. And it's just, what's that? Mass updates. Well, there was for ChatGPT's Asthma thing. They're like installing that. But a bunch of the large language model, the frontier models are putting their new systems into place right now.

And are these just making use of similar infrastructure where there was a problem or is there some much deeper connection between these large language models? I kind of am of the mind that they're all accessing the same thing and trying to do different things with it. But what a strange time we're in. And the reason I bring that up is only to recall how easily you can imagine this stuff just turning off. And yes, we're very used to it coming back on. but it doesn't have to. I just saw your your side message. I will stick with archipologic because polygic is a type of species in the sea,

ologic fish. Okay, but even if that were the case, it would still be archipelago. No, I'm going with archipelago. Yeah, you sound like, like Pauli Shore, Pauly Shore and Encino Man. I get so much shit about my pronunciation and I don't care. Do you remember that movie? Did you ever watch that movie? No man was fantastic.

Oh, good. Okay. Renan Frazier, Pauley Shore. Yes, yes. It's a fantastic movie. Agreed. Probably, I haven't seen it in 30 years, so it probably would not hit as well today. But, you know, they don't, these old movies, they don't have that, you know, pizzazz that they had back then, I guess.

That's true. Still a good one, though. I probably watched it like 10 years ago. I love that movie. All right. just real quick i want to cover this before we get into the columbia journal review because that's what i sent that to chris before the show i wanted to talk about that uh donald trump put this out from truck grassley president trump i ask you to do for american farmers what you have done for consumers

of pharmaceutical products by the way i think this is indirectly another shot at uh the global world order that we talked about uh he says the situation is this american companies that produce seed fertilizer and chemicals are selling their products overseas and particularly brazil at great discounts, unfair to the American farmer. In the case of corn seed, American farmers are paying 68% premium over what is paid in Brazil. It is easy to see that if you put pressure on these companies like you did the pharmaceutical companies, you wouldn't need to appropriate $11 billion to farmers for Bridge. Please study this, and if you find an injustice to the American farmer,

announce something shortly, even if you can't negotiate right away. Very big thank you from the American farmer. So this is in line with the most favored nation. So we might see like a most favored beef or most favored fertilizer, something along those lines. That's pretty crazy. If we're selling fertilizer to Brazil at a fraction or excuse me, feed and fertilizer to Brazil at a steep discount compared to what we're sending selling to American farmers. I love Trump's fight against big beef right now against big ag. He went against big pharma.

He went against big ag. We haven't seen it against the military industrial complex, but again, going back to what we always talk about, that's one of the actual enumerated powers of the federal government is our nation's defense. So I'm not entirely upset with with that as much as the rest. But yeah, I don't know if you want to add anything on that. No, I think that all that's good. And is it the only question, again, as always, is, is is this the system correcting itself or being corrected or being transitioned into its great reset form? Is this stuff already scripted?

Is Trump just simply taking credit for the good side of this transition, which is an argument I've been making for a couple of years now? And an argument I'm fine with, by the way. Or is all of this stuff happening in real time for the benefit of the American people and directly of Trump's doing? and I'm not entirely sure on that part, but the comms are Trump's, and I don't mean like secret communications. I mean the way he's choosing to present these things to the American people. He's claiming the results on them. And these things are being accomplished under a sovereign America first ethos and mindset.

These changes are being understood by the people because of Trump's communications. These changes are being understood as the product. of an America First orientation, which is much better, if you want to presume, preserve, sorry, the American ethos, it's much better for us to understand these things that way than to understand them as a reset of this globalized system that we are just participating in forever. Yeah. I think when President Trump said what he said about the big oil companies in Venezuela and taking advantage of Venezuela and making $12 billion. profit or 12 times, I think he said, 12 times more profit this year than the previous year

and saying, I'm a free market guy, but that's ridiculous. You know, we're paying out the ass for gas here. They're getting crushed down in Venezuela. I love free market economics, but this is not free market economics. This is, this is pure greed. I don't know, you know, I don't know exactly what he said. I can't find that clip. I remember watching him say it.

I can't find it. Wait, was it from the event? Oh, okay. Yeah, maybe I'm not, maybe I'm not recalling that then. Oh, it was in one of his press avails at the Oval, though. It wasn't in an address or anything like that. You know, John and I talked about the Canada dispute on Saturday night, and it was a day after Trump had released his statement on Venezuelan oil and how we're making the biggest

deal of all time. And I sent a text to John the next day. And I was like, damn it, I wish I had thought of this then. But it seemed like Trump was making that big announcement because we were about to hear that Canada was going to cut us off from their oil supply, which could have been a big and impactful story for a few days if they had a free and clear weekend to run with that and have it dominate the Sunday morning news shows and the rest of it. But then Trump had already defended himself against that attack by saying, hey, we've agreed with this massive oil producer that. they're just going to give us their oil. It's going to be great. Yeah, he put, Trump put out a truth social post saying that right now, Carney, like you look like the hero, making Trump look like the bad guy, but that's not going

to work out for you very well. And, uh, you know, we've talked about on this show, Alberta, which is the main producer of oil for Canada, uh, runs its lines through the United States to get to Ontario, to get back up to Quebec or Quebec, as they call it. There you go. Since I have to be pronounced, pronounce, pronounce accurately. um and and where are we at with nevada still it's still it's still nevada it's always going to be nevup always going to be um but uh yeah to the point i was making alberta i mean they're going to secede i think they're going to secede from from canada or there's a vote to at least do it and uh carney's you know threatening trade against the u s and the u s is like well we'll just

get our oil from venezuela literally the next day um he's he's playing a very strategic game against them but let's let's jump into this story here uh i sent this to you uh before the show and uh thought it was very interesting columbia journalism review mayor ma'm donnie's friendly influencers and the funding of public messaging in new york city now chris if at any point you know there's a highlight in here that you know you want to cover just jump in uh so mayor ma'm donnie's administration appears to be keeping busy promoting new policies and city services the mayor's office has held influencer only press briefings hired a host of new communists communicate communists yeah that too hired a host of new communications staffers and created a network of influencers who push out his message

to their followers he sounds like the trump of new york oh because of the communications operation yeah this was trump's whole thing with the press these communications operations exist in all forms of politics and in corporate America and even in celebrity and social media account, you know, brands and accounts and stuff. This is essentially what a company I was involved with a decade ago now almost. This is what we used to do for brands and for celebrity clientele. We would be them online. We would operate their online persona on their behalf to, them followers and engagement and convert that into into sales or advertisements or whatever and so this this model is used all over the place and i don't know we can we can keep going through this i

don't need to go no no you're you're right but trump was as far as i can tell you know as far as i recall trump is the first person to openly say it like i'm going to bring in the new media you know he famously had the binder gate where he brought in all these these influencers you know that kind of thing and And I don't think there's much difference to be clear that between the influencers that have infiltrated that network on the executive side and what Mamdani is pushing right here. I think it's along the same lines. Yeah, that's an interesting angle. And I mean, I look at the whole Bindergate thing as a humiliation ritual for those people

and to show them that these are not actual, these are not independent people trying to bring the truth to the American public. watching them grovel, the little blonde girl from the blaze, watching her grovel about how the administration is the most transparent administration ever. And they didn't give it to the journalist. They gave it to us. They gave it to us real people like you and me. Let's just talk about these files. So embarrassing that whole thing.

But I guess that that's a different angle on it, though, that they could be using that model to kind of expose that model or to, smuggle their own kind of counter narratives through that model. Trump has certainly done that. Well, so you had those people and the other part I was going to add to it is those people, I agree, that was a humiliation ritual. And a lot of the people that were involved in there have very questionable backgrounds. But then he went on and he's done press conferences where he has people like Nick Shirley. And I don't know one way or the other whether Nick Shirley's a good guy or not.

I'm not going to, you know, the information he's putting out is good. He's going to people that have done a lot of legwork and he's exposing stories and getting information out on stories, Minneapolis, California, you know, all that other stuff. And so I'm kind of wondering if the whole the White House thing, the binder gate, was the exposure of these people are the, you know, kind of controlled opposition in here. These are the bought and paid for. Let's put them through this humiliation. But he's still highlighting other, quote unquote, influencers out there. I don't know. I don't know. But let's jump it back into this. So they have this signal chat in New York where they have like 200 influencers. And it says Mamdani's staff is getting out messages to them, which is crazy because that's a crazy concept that nobody's ever thought of before to have a list of press and people with, you know, followings, people that read stuff that people put out. Nobody's ever thought before of engaging them in this way.

You know, it's funny, we've had a number of these articles over the last few years. There was a big one last year from Ben Smith and Semaphore about like 200, basically like the finance bros on Twitter, the tech bros on Twitter and the Uniparty Right politics bros on Twitter, all of them getting together in a signal chat. And in these chats, they coordinate their messaging and help to promote the illusion of, popularity of all the other members. They just share each other's stuff out and agree constantly with one another and pump each other's engagement so that they all rise up in the algorithm space together. And this is what is, this is what's building our political reality in this country. And people don't want to imagine that they could be getting so pervasively hoodwinked in such a mundane fashion. But that's exactly what's happening. Yep. It says here in many ways a signal

group is similar to traditional press list created and used by comms teams and that the influencers receive updates and can decide whether they choose to cover it there are of course clear differences between the work of journalists and social media influencers yeah these influencers have been criticized for not asking adversarial questions or doing tough investigative reporting influencers in the signal group are not paid by the city for their coverage although some are paid by city agencies for for work on particular messaging campaigns. What? We're now we're mad that influencers aren't asking adversarial or tough questions,

but the real journalists totally are. They do want to keep that image. And they've spent a lot of time, to be fair, conditioning us into believing that there is this thing called journalistic integrity that everyone who works in journalism subscribes to. That is just blatantly not true. And it's funny the passage you just read, there's a part later on in the article that makes a distinction between doing what are essentially paid advertisements with these influencers versus hiring them to be their communicators, which means that they can disseminate all of this paid messaging without it actually being an ad. So they think they they think they've found this important distinction that means they can.

they can at the same time maintain their model and keep going forward with the model that they're using but also demand that the government put in place various laws that regulate these sorts of communications and force people to disclose if they're getting paid so they've got they've they've got their loophole already set up exactly and there is no such thing as as free media by the way just throwing that out there uh even you know you look at the five news and all that they're bought and paid for i'm not saying that the politicians and and officials are directly doing it but they go to them they give them this story and then you have of course you know the pharmaceutical industry and all sorts of other industries that buy the sponsorship on them

because they're going out there and putting out the agenda of the and we're going to talk about COVID here in a second but they're putting out the agenda of these administrations and a lot of times those administrations are also bought and paid for by those pharmaceutical companies right we talked about what was the who is the senator that received like $400,000 from Big Pharma in an election year, a Bill Cassidy that just lost in this last primary. In 2024, he wasn't even on the ballot, received $450,000 or $350,000 from Big Pharma. He wasn't even on the ballot. It wasn't even running.

But that same farmer is also paying Fox News. And you don't think there's any, you know, kind of cross pollination there. I don't know. So did you have anything else before we get to this background portion here? because this is the for me this is the shocking part not shocking we can just go off your thing i highlighted highlighted a bunch of stuff because i just like um pointing out where the media is recognizing what this system actually is so but we're getting through plenty of it so this unfortunately i mean this probably could have been a a full hour segment sure it's going through this

document here but maybe we'll do that in another show um city agencies have looked at long tried to engage with New Yorkers and provide quality information, but the COVID-19 pandemic was an inflection point. The thousands of deaths created a sense of urgency for city officials who knew that they had to reach residents with important health information, especially those in underserved areas or in particular ethnic communities. I did an interview in probably like 23 with a Columbia University of Columbia professor. I think he was an assistant professor that did a study on vaccine on deaths in the country and how they correlated with the rollouts of vaccines and then the rollouts with the second booster shots and these massive spikes in

death throughout the country. Nobody at Columbia was interested in that report, in that, you know, but they would tell you to go out there and get the oh-so-safe vaccine. I just thought that was rich because this is a Columbia Journal review. This is from Columbia University. Jose, go ahead. No, no, go ahead. You're going to do it. Jose Bayana, who served as the founding executive director of the New York City Mayor's Office of ethnic and community media from 2022 to 2024, remembers that during the pandemic, quote, the outlets that the city relied on to reach communities

and promote vaccination were the ethnic and community media. And those outlets were the original influencers because they held decades of community trust. Bayana points to journalists such as Rico DuPoy of Radio Saleh, a trusted voice in the Haitian community, as well as media outlets serving Latinos, South Asian, Chinese and Caribbean communities. In August of 2020, New York City Health and Hospitals, an independent agency funded by the government.

What a fucking retarded statement. An independent agency funded by the government. What? Began marketing campaigns with celebrities and paid online influencers as well as traditional media outlets to spread the word about COVID testing and later the vaccine. What money were they using to fund that operation? And the answer, as it says in this article, to be fair, is your money, the taxpayers' money. Yeah, they're using public funds to pay attention farmers online to disseminate state messaging to the people sponsoring it. So you are buying your own propaganda being spoon fed to you by attention farmers.

on the internet. And that is a sad, sad state of affairs. I cannot believe people are still held in thrall to this thing. And they certainly are. Are you coming back to the, the, the paragraph right below that, the enemy, Emily Galube, called her enemy. Yeah, we're going to hit that also. The only other point I want to drive on this is, you know, this screams at me this screams like where it says here the outlets the city relied on to reach communities and those that were the original influencers meaning were being replaced because they held decades of community trust no you just put them out there as the authoritative sources and people had no other alternative the the whole media paradigm is completely and totally

shifting right now and those quote unquote trusted sources voices i should say voices that you've put out there to promulgate your propaganda, to spread your propaganda, it's going by the wayside, and they're freaking out about it. And granted, I don't know if, you know, what we're seeing in terms of these influencers in this group chat, I don't know who they are. I don't know anything about it. But the fact that Columbia is railing on this, the way that they are, tells me that it's probably not something that they have control over. Emily Golub and Carmen Boone, who were the agency's communication directors during the pandemic, wrote in a 2021 paper that for the test and trace campaign,

the agency recruited 24 nano, fewer than 1,000 followers, and micro-influencers between 1,000 and 100,000 followers, with a total reach of 12 million followers. These creators posted targeted video content, quote, based on guidelines and assets provided by the New York City Health hospitals, which paid to boost the videos online. A number of city. Go ahead.

The, the nano and micro influencer in the ethnic communities and stuff, we're talking about people who most Americans would not recognize as influencers at all. Those people wouldn't even be able to call themselves influencers because with a couple hundred or a couple thousand followers, no one would even take that seriously. It's just a person online who. like spending more time online and likes farming attention more than other average Americans. And yet the governmental organizations and non-governmental organizations are reaching out to these people and engaging them to propagandize the people in their like little sphere of influence,

a few hundred people at a time. And they're fine with that. And a lot of people, especially because so many of us were thrown out of our jobs and careers with the COVID shutdowns, a lot of people were more than happy to take that money. It is such a travesty that any of that stuff worked and that any of this stuff since then has worked. But, you know, this is what our inattention to how the world really operates. This is where that brings us. And hopefully we're waking up to these things.

But we really do have to incorporate this understanding into our, process of forming beliefs because if we do not if we just continue accepting these beliefs because someone who looks like our friend is claiming them we are doomed yes and i i wanted to your point is is is spot on with with what i was interpreting that paragraph i do want to read just this one paragraph here is the last part a number of city agencies continue to work with social media creators quote i can't think of an agency that does not work with influence says Natalie Natalia Goldstein, the digital media strategist with the NYC campaign finance board, noting that the board expanded its efforts in 2021 and began to scale and bring in,

bring in-house influencers, excuse me, and bring in-house its influencers work in 2023. And the point you were making right there is spot on because people will go out there and see, this is just an average person that uncovered this. crazy this is this person only has a thousand followers on x or on facebook or on whatever they're a nobody but they did this work and look who caught onto it so and so caught onto it and they shared it out that's the person that gets paid the person that made the post they probably get you know a little kickback a couple hundred bucks it's the million plus account that's like look what i found this is nuts everybody needs to see this they don't i don't know this for certain but i don't think

they're paying facebook or paying x to boost this post the way that you normally would. They're paying larger influencers to spotlight these particular posts. They're paying news agencies to write articles about these particular posts. And it gives it credibility because it's just that low level person that was also pushed into putting out this content. And some people know this, people that think independently, like, where did this person come from? How did one million plus followers X account see this little post right here? Right? They're not scrolling through. I mean, I've only got, I'm not even 100,000 followers.

And I don't see posts that aren't like deliberately put in front of me. Right. Yeah, the algorithm manipulates everything. And I, you know, again, this is another reason to really take a step back from the AI, the large language models, because their knowledge base is direct. they're getting all their knowledge from censored and manipulated online spaces. So it's already, it's already distorted before it gets into the system. It's, I don't know, man. It's a, it's like a, it's a vortex. You just get lost inside it. And that's kind of part of the point. So yeah,

people in the chat were like, attention farmers. Yeah, I've been saying this for a long time. This is actually the meme. I don't know if you guys have, uh, have seen me use that before. It was after my, my Twitter era, but yeah, just a humble attention farmer out there trying to farm some likes and follows. Yeah. I, I, um, I wish we could, I wish we had more time to go over this. It's a long report from Columbia. And I, I haven't, I didn't even finish reading it this morning. And I definitely want to finish reading it. And we'll probably talk more about this report because, um, it's fascinating that Columbia of all. places is freaking out about this you know hotbed for what we believe to be uh intelligence influence over over propaganda and everything else and they're they're they're cringing at the social

media and i think there's a reason for it and i think a lot of it is because they don't have the influence over uh this now i'm not saying again i'm not saying the influencers are like organic and pure and everything else but they don't have the control of the assets that are controlling these institutions right like ma'm donnie may gen like these people may genuinely be engaging with ma'm donnie to get ma'm donnie's message out and not assets of some of these other institutions going to ma'm dony and being like oh i'm a total influencer you know tell me what you want me to say and then spinning it so i think there's a lot more to unpacking that good and the article also mentions that for a lot of these people they are just happy to have their

their followers believe that they have a relationship with the power structure. So them in constant support of Mom Doni, if the, if people with Mom Donnie signal back to these people, well, now you've got a relationship and you can show your followers that relationship and say to them, look at this. I am associated with this person in the mayor's office. Therefore, you can see me as some avatar of that authority, which means that I am more credible because the mayor's office is lending me their credibility. And I am now gaining in popularity because they're enhancing my visibility to their followers. So now my followers think that I am better and more important and are more likely to share my content with their followers based on my association to the mayor's office.

And this is a social media growth strategy that attention farmers or companies that run attention farmers will employ to direct attention onto the social media platform. And that's what they are. They are advertising platforms. The idea is to build an influencer account into the sort of account that can be used for paid messaging and paid advertisements. That's what the job is. And people don't think that that's the job. People think that like DC Drano and all these people who are just schlepping every day for more follows online, that they're like these real authentic patriots operating in good faith to save America. That is not what they're doing.

They're creating a personal brand to use as a monetizable advertising platform, period. Yep. They say the things that people want to hear. Yep. All right, let's, and they spin it in a way that is still safe for them. Vegas deplorable 26. As always, great show. What is it called when you really piss off a redhead?

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here though because we are six minutes over and uh yeah john will start john will start like texting me and be like hey get off get off because he's got a set up studio so all right yeah he's it's it's i try and get done by two so he's he's pretty good about it i'm just giving him a hard time all right brother thanks for joining me as always uh you've got d p h coming up tomorrow night anything else all right well thank you guys all so much christie i will be on with date night today at 7 p.m on my channel as well as my week and review you tomorrow morning got a bunch of stories i did not get to today so we'll talk more about those tomorrow uh god bless guys i'll see you uh see them tonight