Badlands Media - Baseless Conspiracies Ep. 177: Are Trump’s Statements Signaling War or Just Fueling the Narrative Machine?

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Jon Herold and Zak Paine break down a fast moving conversation centered on recent Trump statements, ongoing war speculation, and the public reaction that follows. The discussion focuses on how stateme...nts are interpreted in real time, how quickly narratives form around them, and how audiences attempt to connect meaning across incomplete information. The episode moves through reactions from media, online communities, and political figures, highlighting how different interpretations emerge from the same set of facts. Jon and Zak question assumptions, revisit what is actually known versus what is being inferred, and explore how speculation can quickly outpace verified information. As the conversation unfolds, the hosts emphasize the importance of staying grounded, avoiding overreaction, and recognizing how easily perception can be shaped when information is still developing.

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Starting point is 00:00:14 That's a hell of it. I don't consider myself a conspiracy buff at all. But when they get a lot of coincidences, I get a little suspicious and call me crazy. Weird talk shows, crazy groups every Sunday telling you what you think. Republicans and the Democrats conspired with one another. There is a conspiracy by big business against American democracy. There was a conspiracy. There was no conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Was there a conspiracy? Conspiracy directed out of Moscow. The right-wing conspiracy. The right-wing conspiracy is a deliberate and predictable plan of action to subvert the world. Right-wing conspiracy. It's an international criminal conspiracy. Do you think you're obsessed with conspiracy? A conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:01:05 A conspiracy. I'm afraid you'll catch me. A conspiracy would do the job nicely. Well, good evening, everybody, and welcome to another episode of your favorite Monday Night Show, and probably your favorite show overall, baseless conspiracy. As always, I am joined by Zach Payne. Zach. How's the weekend, brother? The weekend was good.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Nice and relaxing. Obviously, we played video games yesterday. And, yeah, it was a lot of fun. I feel like I'm getting better. And it's like I can, it's measurable every single time. Getting easier to aim, getting easier to sneak up on people, getting easier. The thing I got to really work on is when people just like come out of nowhere and I panic. And then I'm, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I think my favorite part of the stream. It's so much fun, though. I love it. We're just sitting there having a conversation. You're talking about random stuff, and then you just curse out of nowhere, like, he's got to jump scared. It's super funny. It is great.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It's totally great. But, you know, we got to get to a point where we are gaming streamers only. I think that's where that's our trajectory right now. That's where all the money is. That's the goal. So, I'm just kidding. Yeah, this is a good time. on Sunday nights.
Starting point is 00:02:25 How are you feeling about a victory in Iran day today? Oh, do we have another one? Wasn't that the ceasefire? Like, it's all over? I mean, I don't know. Okay, like every single day I feel like Trump is sending mixed messages on this. What I do know is that, you know, apparently President Trump was having conversations with people that he felt could successfully run Iran after the successful ultimate removal
Starting point is 00:02:51 of the Islamic government. And then the Jerusalem post published the dude's name. So I don't know that he's going to be around for much longer. We'll see what happens. Yeah, this is pretty interesting. He's like, I'm not going to tell you the name because I don't want him to die. And that's like, okay, well, if we're negotiating peace with him, we wouldn't be the ones to kill him. So you can look at it two ways.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Either there's a good twin, evil twin faction in Iran and Trump is negotiating with this guy and he's the good twin. Right. Evil twin, maybe the Khmeni people would be the ones to kill him. Or. the other possibility and the one that a lot of people are running with maybe it's Israel who doesn't want the peace and wants to take the guy out
Starting point is 00:03:30 I mean we've it's been said for a long time that Iran was overrun with Mossad agents so there's an argument to be made that the evil Iranian twin is actually the Mossad Iranian twin so you know whether it's
Starting point is 00:03:45 Mossad getting him killed indirectly by publishing his name which means that you know somebody in the Khmeranian government or the IRGC decides to take him out or you know it's it's just them on their own i mean the effect is still the same either way but yeah i mean i i'm totally fully subscribed to the good good twin bad twin and um i mean that's just it it's representative of like this patriot deep state war that's happening inside every structured government and um yeah i i think that ultimately if he does get killed
Starting point is 00:04:22 God rest his soul. Hopefully that doesn't happen. But I mean, clearly the Jerusalem Post wanted him to get killed. There's no reason to publish that. And I mean, you compare that also with President Trump, I think J.D. Vance, Pete Hegsseth and Tulsi Gabbard, all saying that the Israeli objectives in Iran are not the American objectives in Iran. And you can see that demonstrably on the battlefield when President Trump is like, stop blowing stuff up that. we are going to use to make money when this whole thing is done and then Israel's just like boom boom boom you know it's also kind of in line with the rhetoric that Joe Kent has been saying about Israel's objectives and our objectives and the reason we got into the war and all these things it's a it's a minefield right now out there in the the podcast or work do you see Dan Bonjino today oh after Ivan Reiklin and general Flynn I saw like an initial like 15 seconds but I have to be honest like Dan is just, he's taken on this intensity that I don't particularly like to watch anymore. And I feel bad for the guy, to be perfectly honest with you.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And I really did not like the way that he was approached by that guy at that event. I mean, there is something that really bothers me about people who come up and like, you're a pedophile protector, but God bless, why can't you talk to me? Why won't you have a conversation with? We just call me a pedophile protector. Like, you know, back the fuck up. Like, who do you think you are? And then, you know, I don't know how that interaction with Ivan might have went differently if that guy hadn't come up to Dan and like immediately besmirched his good name.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You know, it just seems like before Dan left the podcasting sphere and went into the FBI, it was basically like royalty, right? Like everybody was cool with him and he if he had problems online, it was minimal. And then I think that, I mean, just this is my perspective. it seemed like it really bothered him being in the FBI and not being able to respond to people who were talking shit to him online because there was plenty of it. And so he came out and it was like he just unburdened himself of everything that had been. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely a tough position going in. And it's hard to imagine that, you know, I mean, there are a lot of good things that happened while he was in there too. You know, in terms of arrests and child trafficking that actually stopped.
Starting point is 00:06:48 obviously the Epstein narrative is one that I think you know going into that I don't think he he thought it was something different than it actually was too I got the feeling yeah same with Cash Patel and you know maybe we haven't seen the end of that story that's totally possible but I totally get the feeling of like you know people going after you're attacking you online and then also being like playing victim and be like we just want you know you just want to be friends you just want to get to the bottom of this it's so gay it's like you can't have it both way you can't totally dismerch somebody's good name and like try to ruin them
Starting point is 00:07:19 and then also be like but we're just it's all love we just want unity that's not how it works you're frauds and hypocrites so I personally love the the back and forth between all the podcasters because you know at some point
Starting point is 00:07:31 people will get sick of of the drama and that's what it is like most people aren't looking for drama they're looking for information at some point they're going to mature and graduate beyond the he said she said high school
Starting point is 00:07:47 bullshit, but maybe not. I don't know. Well, I think that there always will be a contingent of the public that seeks that stuff out because, I mean, that's not like a new phenomenon. It's just amplified now because so many people are in the space and
Starting point is 00:08:02 they're all fighting for the attention of other people. And it's unfortunate, but I mean, that draws eyes, obviously. But I just, I don't think Dan wants those eyes. I just think that he's not the guy that you that you talk on his name without him saying something back.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And I just got the feeling it was difficult for him. And somebody said something in the chat, you know, do you think Dan's under an NDA? Well, I think it's a lot more than that. I think it's national secrets. I mean, I think that there's plenty that he knows and that he was, you know, subjected to that he actually was read into. And he simply can't talk about those things. And I personally don't think that story is over in any regard.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think Dan's part at the FBI is over. but I think it's an ongoing story. Yeah, I think most people with the top secret security clearance sign like the 99 year, and it isn't an NDA. Oh, is it technically? Okay, I wasn't sure if they would still refer to it as that. There are some bad landers. I guess maybe it's not called an NDA,
Starting point is 00:09:02 but there are some bad landers that come to our conferences that talk about this. Like, you know, they're a former military or they have, you know, contracts with the DOE or whatever. Yeah. And it's a literal 99 year NDA that they can't disclose anything until that's done and by them they're obviously dead so okay so oh yeah it is it is just an n d a but you know it's funny because i was thinking that it must be something else because obviously people sign nDAs all the time whether it's in the corporate world or i suppose in government as well yeah yeah but um but
Starting point is 00:09:32 obviously n dAs are difficult to enforce when it's between private parties more more so easy when you have like an overbearing corporate overlord that you know has the money to to go after you but um you know in the instance of a government n d a there's going to be a lot more than just some sort of um financial remuneration that needs to be paid if you speak out about that i mean you go to prison for the rest of your life yeah very likely um yeah it's gonna be interesting the end's approach is definitely not the one we typically take we usually ignore the the bullshit but good good on him he's got a good audience he's he's well-spoken if people are going to talk shit he's going to talk it back and I don't know not my approach but I understand why he's doing it
Starting point is 00:10:18 yeah yeah I just hope he's okay to be honest with you I mean he seems he seems stressed and you know I mean I can understand that as well who isn't these days well no I mean everybody but I mean it's it's just that Dan I mean I just I keep thinking about him before he went into the FBI and you know how stressed he is now I mean it's like there is there is a heightened level of tension and i just know that that's that's not good for people yeah well i i think he's not used to being ridiculed you know right right and uh he definitely has been yeah yeah um whether that's deserved or not i think is yet to be seen i like i like i like dan used to watch him all the time i've talked about this i've dmned him now and then i don't watch a show really anymore
Starting point is 00:11:05 other than what i see like clips of and it's all just everybody arguing with everybody so i tend to ignore ignore that um but what else what else there's one other story that i was gonna hold on grid defector says you guys are literally sitting here defending bonjino you can't be serious i i'm not saying that i know anything about dan bonjino's actions or what's in his heart but the one thing i know is that there's a whole bunch of shit that i don't know uh there's obviously a lot of things that happen when you're the deputy director of the fbi um you know i mean i and personal my reaction is about seeing a human being in pain. So, you know, I mean, that's, you know, that tends to happen for me.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Like when I see somebody and it's obvious to me that they're, that they're hurting. I mean, I don't want to see anybody go through that. You know, I mean, like, whatever, you know, Dan Bongino's ultimate fate is, that'll be, you know, revealed at some point. But, I mean, I don't know the man. I don't know what's in his heart. Yeah. For me, it's, it comes down to the Epstein stuff, which I, I've been one of the few people.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And there's a couple of those on Badlands who felt this way too. But we were saying back in June or before, back even when the binder situation, the binder gate stuff happened that this is not like it's a rug pull. It was built up by a whole bunch of people online podcasts, just including Dan and Cash Patel when they were in that space. They built this up to this thing. It had this lore behind it. And we were cautioning like, hey, what if this doesn't live up to expectations? What if you were sold a bill of goods that they can't follow through on? And it was all done as an op against Trump, which I think is played out almost exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And if that's the case, then Bongino is being attacked over the Epstein files. And it's in a sense unjustified. So I'm not sitting here defending him, but I'm not going to attack him either. No, exactly. That's how I feel. Just put yourself in somebody's shoes where you truly believe the things you're saying about what should be in the Epstein. because let's be honest, there's a lot that is missing. There is an entire-
Starting point is 00:13:13 Or may not exist. No, I'm saying it doesn't exist anymore. I'm saying so I can tell you with certainty that there is a whole section of the investigation that is just missing, like everything from New Mexico, from the New Mexico State Police, from the New Mexico Bureau of Investigation, from the local police there, that, you know, county sheriff, you know, the state government, they did. an exhaustive investigation. They interviewed witnesses.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like they took down forensic evidence, all right? They had a ton of stuff. And it was the Southern District of New York, Maureen Comey, who stepped in and said, we want you to hand your investigation over to us along with all of your material. And then we're going to tell you what happens as the investigation proceeds.
Starting point is 00:14:03 They immediately took all of the investigative material from top to bottom. And then they never called called New Mexico ever again. So essentially what they did was remove everything of substance related to the New Mexico investigation. They extracted it. And then I'm certain it's destroyed because if it hadn't been destroyed, it would have been part of the millions of pages that they've released thus far. Now, is it possible? Maybe it's somewhere in one of these, you know, hidden skiffs and we just haven't found it yet. I guess, John, they just found another two million pages today in another hidden
Starting point is 00:14:35 skiff that was not known. That's what I'm saying. Not. No, that's what I'm saying. of the Epstein files, but we don't know what's in those files. All we do know is that they go back to Robert Mueller, okay? So I mean, there's plenty of years where something could cross over. We just haven't been given the information yet. Are you sure that there's like thousands of Epstein files with the word New Mexico in it? No, I'm sure that there is stuff with New Mexico because people called the FBI. What I'm saying is that the New Mexico state government went on record and said that they took all of our stuff and it's gone. It's not there.
Starting point is 00:15:11 People have gone in and looked for things that they knew were supposed to be there. See, I guess I did not hear that. I thought you were going to go talk about like, I can't remember the guy's name. He's posted online. Maybe we even did it on a show once, but people were saying like there's a, you know, a whole section of thousands of files that aren't on the website anymore, but they were. You remember that? Well, there was some stuff, but there was a whole bunch of stuff that is still not there.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I just think it's all convoluted on purpose. You know, it is. It is. And, you know, something that Joe Kent said, and I think I said it here on this show one time, is that the government will intentionally leave out information. Because I remember it because you were like, you know, why wouldn't they just admit this? Like something simple. You know, it's like, what's the point? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I'm not blaming you. I'm saying like, this is why I said it on the air. You're like, what is the point of not saying this because it's benign? Like, there's no point. And my thought was that the government will leave things out to create the absence of information. And then people will run with it and create the craziest conspiracy theories that they can possibly imagine. Because they're just trying to fill in the gaps. And sometimes that leads to investigative findings.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Other times it just leads to people coming up with bat shit crazy stuff. But they know that. And it breeds a sort of mistrust in the public. And it also absolves them of. really having to give any information at all. Maybe at some point they come forward with some official story, but, you know, along the way, they are more than happy to just allow people to spin out there in the wind. And spin, we do.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Anyway, what's the topic tonight again? Obama? The Obama body count. We're going to finish our conversation from last week about Andrew Breitbart. Then we're going to jump into Tom Clancy. And then quite literally, I have a list of people who showed up dead surrounding the Obamas over the years. It's crazy. Absolutely crazy.
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Starting point is 00:19:18 Big shout out to Rumble and Rumble Wallet and Rumble Studio for making this technology and continuing to support the creators. They are the most creator-centric platform out there. They are. Okay. So I think we have some clarification from grid defector and why he specifically doesn't like Dan Bonjino. And correct me if I'm wrong, grid defector, but this is what I'm reading from it. He says 16.1 million shares in Rumble is a 5.7% ownership stake.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Rumble is supposed to be free speech, yet one of the large shareholders is totally against that. Okay, so Dan Bongino put his money into Rumble, just like anybody buying stock in a company or funding a company. Dan is also an American citizen and he has the right to have whatever opinion he wants. The one thing that I can tell you is that as a content creator on Rumble since 2020, I have done literally like over a thousand videos, maybe even more than that, probably between here on Badlands and on my channel, I've done thousands of shows and I have never once tempered my language or censored myself. and I've also never had anything censored by Rumble.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Like nothing's ever been taken down. I've never gotten a copyright claim. I've never been told that I can't say something. So, you know, I don't think that really matters. I mean, like, Dan is not responsible for anybody else's opinion, and I don't think anybody should be responsible for his opinion. If you think that he's got a bad take, you know, that's one thing. But just because he owns stock and Rumble, you feel like he should be, you know, come out
Starting point is 00:20:57 and you know say free speech is the only way to go i mean i and i don't even know that he's against free speech well he's not people we ban people from our chat there are people that come in disingenuously trying to stir shit up we ban those people there's a complete difference between free speech and they're like forcing us to see it and plus it's not like you're banned off the rumble platform you can still watch videos and you can probably go to any other chat you haven't been banned from and still chat in there you just like we're not forced to sit here and just like Dan's not forced to sit there while people come in and try to just talk shit, which happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Guys, people get paid to do that. People, the competing networks create fake accounts to come into our chat to stir shit up. We're like, oh, what happened to this person? You know who's asking it's those people. It happens all the time. And we just ban them because we know exactly what they're doing. We don't have to put up with that. That's completely different than free speech.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, yeah. But I mean, in terms of like supporting free speech, Rumble, as a platform never once have i been censored never once have i've been banned i've never been censored over on pilled i've i've been censored on x plenty okay and um never been i've never been censored on getter you know i mean and i stream there every single day um yeah and new case says i disagree with them but he can craft his chat experience however he wants to yeah exactly exactly totally totally all right well uh so let's let's let's get into the uh the uh the conversation one more time about Andrew Breitbart.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So we're going to start the show with an account from an ex-CIA agent. His name is Dr. Jim Garrow. Like, officially, he's a philanthropist and he worked for one of the largest nonprofit orgs on the world. He was, as part of this organization, he was doing some type of humanitarian work. in China. I want to say it was like working with orgs that were trying to like save Uyghurs or maybe it was just like female children because for a long time the Chinese population, they had the one child policy and it was more like I guess respectful to have a son. And so oftentimes if they had a daughter and they only wanted and they could only have the one kid, they would just kill the female baby
Starting point is 00:23:22 and then try again. And obviously that led to a whole bunch of problems in China. Now you have way too many men and not enough women to go around. So they're a real hot commodity. But he was an agent of the CIA. And Dr. Jim Garrow. And he had, let me see, what this was, truth. So 2019.
Starting point is 00:23:52 18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12. So between 2011 and 2012, he left the CIA. And that's him, Dr. Jim Garrow. Yes. He looks, I don't know, he looks like he's the star of some commercial. You know, like a Niagara commercial, maybe Pecto-Bismol. He's just got a face for low-budget commercials. I don't know. Well, I mean, if you want somebody who's going to be unassuming and appear to be sort of blending into the crowd, as so they can act as a CIA agent working within China. I mean, I feel like he would be a good candidate.
Starting point is 00:24:35 He's CIA. He was. He's not anymore. He left in like 2011 or 2012. Okay, no, no, no. What do we say about former CIA agents? What's that? What do we say about former CIA agents?
Starting point is 00:24:48 Well, once CIA, always CIA. but he left in a pretty spectacular fashion so so he left after andrew bright bart was killed that was in 2012 so it would have been 2013 but he was operational in 2011 and 2013 so um during that time do you are you aware that like after obama's second win in 2012 Obama and the military like he basically did like a purge on the military and the intelligence community. And they gave like this litmus test to, to soldiers and to officers. And they basically asked if they asked the high ranking officers,
Starting point is 00:25:36 if they were asked to, would they be willing to fire on American citizens? Basically as like a test of loyalty. And the, and the enlisted men who said, no because that's totally wrong those people were pushed out and and and this happened like you know throughout the military and it's funny because I had a friend who actually joined the army I want to say in like 2014 and he said that when he came in they basically were told that they were
Starting point is 00:26:11 not allowed to have any political opinions other than that Barack Obama was basically you know Jesus walking on the water and and that and that, you know, obviously the chain of command was extremely important. And if Obama asked you to fire on an American citizen or if that was what you were given as an order, then you would have to abide by that. You needed to do that. So he said no. I did not know about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. That's been documented. So he said no. They ended up pushing him out. And allegedly there have been other high ranking officials. besides Gero who have said this. I've heard it spoken about. I want to say, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:55 Alex Jones definitely had people on at that time talking about that. Glenn Beck even did at that time. And Glenn Beck used to be pretty based before he like went Corpo. But even now, you know, he's better than others, but not quite like what he used to be. How long ago was that? How long ago was he? That was in 2013.
Starting point is 00:27:19 to well shit i guess i don't i don't remember well i mean it would have been before he joined like fox news but even then once he joined fox news they kicked him out because he was talking about george sorrows and stuff like that so um he was he was a little ahead of his time but you know nobody's perfect nobody's yeah all right so uh gero came forward um and after he was fired and he said up until october 2013 this is when they kicked him out he was a uh see i operative within the Obama administration and he claims that he was fired by Obama himself and he basically was he was outed as a CIA agent and then he was fired and forced into early retirement because they claimed that he leaked
Starting point is 00:28:10 classified information now I've never been able to confirm what that was and that's probably because he was never charged or anything like that. But, you know, I mean, if they, if they use that as an excuse and they say, you just need to go, otherwise we are going to, you know, bring charges against you know, into prison for the rest of your life. So, um, but after he came out, one of the things that he talked about was the fact that he knew that Andrew Breitbart had been murdered. Um, so, you know, after he was, he was forced out, um, he, he, he, he, he, all of his loyalty to Barack Obama,
Starting point is 00:28:52 it was pretty much burnt off when he was asked if he would be willing to kill American citizens. And he also said that, I guess that Breitbart had filmed an interview with one of Barack Obama's deceased alleged gay lovers.
Starting point is 00:29:11 So like this person was dead by the time that, that Dr. Garrow had left the CIA. I've never personally seen an interview that Breitbart did with like a man that Barack Obama had previously been in a relationship with. But there is a couple of them that were rumored and then ended up dead once that started to come out. So I don't know. I'll see if I can figure it out because I'm going to be working on the Obama body count for probably the next couple of weeks. Who was the guy that recently, gosh, he was interviewed by somebody, the guy who was.
Starting point is 00:29:49 like bloom in the back of a limo that was Larry Lary Larry Singer maybe that's that sounds right yeah hold on I actually tried to get an interview with that no that's not him um who show was he on that he did that interview um what the the Obama lover yeah I want to say hold on why can't I think of it Obama gay lover he oh he didn't interview with Tucker. Sinclair. That's who was Tucker. Larry Sinclair. So, yeah, the reason I don't think that it's Larry Sinclair that, Breitbart, well, I guess Breitbart could have done an interview with him, but I find it doubtful that, well, I mean, maybe at that time, because Sinclair had really been marginalized and they, they did a lot to discredit him. And Breitbart having the sort of the level of respect that he did. I,
Starting point is 00:30:51 suppose that if bright part was about to you know really blow the lid off of that maybe that would have been enough but i mean i guess i figure that obama being in a video with terrorists plotting they take over the u.s government that was enough yeah right yeah yeah so i had also heard that the fbi i actually investigated andrew bright bart's widow for murder what hold on i lost my notes on this one. Obviously after he died or before. Well, yes. Yes. Okay, so this is something that
Starting point is 00:31:32 Dr. Garrow had said. But I have never found like any FBI reports or anything about that. It's entirely possible that maybe they perhaps just like covertly attempted to go
Starting point is 00:31:51 after her like if there was enough noise that had been raised about the death of Andrew Breitbart because, I mean, you know, it's my opinion that they killed the coroner's photographer. You know, he died of arsenic poisoning and that was, you know, totally unnatural. And if other people started to really go on and on about this, then it may be necessary to pick a patsy, right? And if they could pick Andrew Breitbart's wife as a patsy, then, you know, hey, why wouldn't they do that? I mean, it seems like a little too on the nose, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah, yeah. So, you know, here's the other thing is I, you know, I mean, it was like, we know that Andrew Reitbart was like drinking some wine while he was there and he was there for a couple of hours. And they've also claimed, you know, he was, you know, addicted to Adderall and he loved cocaine and he was a heavy drinker. When he died, his auto-trial. he showed that there were no prescription drugs in his system.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And he also had a blood alcohol level of only 0.04, which, you know, seems to indicate that maybe he had a glass of wine that entire night that he was there. So I just, again, I just don't buy the argument that he died from natural causes related to some, you know, preexisting heart condition. I just, I don't think so. I mean, I understand it's totally possible he didn't die from that. But also, like, if there's any way to validate the fact that he went in a year prior and got diagnosed with that, like, if that's legitimate, it is also totally possible that he did have a heart issue. I mean, I've heard of people younger than that who have died from the same heart issue, even here in my hometown. A classmate of mine, their younger brother passed away a few years ago. He was like 28 and had a heart issue.
Starting point is 00:33:46 This is before the vaccine and all that stuff. he's just a very big guy very out of shape very unhealthy and caught up with him so i feel like andrew brightbart was actually like getting into better shape at the time that he died you're not wrong john you're not wrong but all i'm saying is that my spighty senses are tinkling on this one and it should be because of who he is i totally that is justified i'm just saying it is you know my role here is the skeptic yes much to people's dismay and as a skeptic I need to be skeptical of things and it is totally possible that it was a natural natural death unfortunate yes but but yes I think the conspiracy aspect is why we do the show is
Starting point is 00:34:28 the fun part so I think we should continue down that path right right so so so this former CIA agent goes on record and says that he is a hundred percent certain that Andrew Breitbart was killed by the Obama administration as we established the video expose that Breitbart was planning to come out did not happen in the way that it was supposed to. It was a totally different video. If he did interview Obama's gay lover, I've never seen that video unless it's Larry Sinclair and I just don't realize that it was Breitbart doing the interview. And shortly after he came forward and started talking about Breitbart, there was another death related to Barack Obama. and that was Tom Clancy.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So Tom Clancy was allegedly, you know, somebody. A video game creator, that Tom Clancy? Well, he's an author. Oh, it's that Tom Clancy? That Tom Clancy, yes. No shit. Yes. Oh, I was totally joking.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Thought the name was coincidence. No, no, no. It's definitely him. And so the actual cause of death on his autopsy is unknown. And Dr. Garrow stated that Tom Clancy was definitely also killed by the Obama administration and suggested that there was some type of a plant toxin that may have been used or some type of poison that, you know, within five days would break down and leave no traces within the human body. And the doctors who performed the autopsy on Tom Clancy waited for five days. So waited for five days.
Starting point is 00:36:10 For what? To do the autopsy? Yes, waited to do the autopsy for five days, which let. any poisons or anything that he might have been doped with to completely break down in his system. Now, Tom Clancy was 66. It's publicly stated that he died of natural causes, but again, it says unknown on his death certificate. And, you know, he wrote a lot of, you know, big military and spy novels. He wrote the hunt for Red October. And when he wrote the Hunt for Red October, he was actually met at the door. to his home by Pentagon officials and FBI agents because they believe that he got top secret documents.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And he didn't. I mean, I don't know how he came up with it, but I mean, just his time in government and service. But after he came on the radar of the government, the CIA started sort of passing off classified information to him and scenarios. to give him to feed his writing. So like, you know, they would be like, we think you should write about this. Here is a little bit of information. And then he would take that.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And then he would turn it into an entertaining novel. And, you know, it became pretty popular. So Garrell believes that this is why he was killed because he was, essentially they had used him to such great effect. and they gave him too much information. And as a result of his proximity and his access to people within the CIA, Dr. Garrell believes that he got too close to some ultimate secret or some information related to the inner workings of the CIA or the U.S. government, something that the Obama
Starting point is 00:38:05 administration did not want people to know. And perhaps they were afraid that Tom Clancy was going to put that. into his books, or perhaps he had already started to do that. I'm not exactly certain, but, yeah, the, the, the, the, the biggest piece of evidence for that, I think is the sketchy presence of the five-day autopsy. And then, you know, CIA agent is going to know what kind of toxins or, or poisons you might be able to give somebody that would eventually be undetectable. And it's also strange to me that they,
Starting point is 00:38:43 couldn't find any like overriding symptoms or like he didn't have any sickness there was no reason for him to die can i can i play devil's advocate go ahead play because back five or six years before he died in december of 2006 he had a heart attack and he posted on a message board about his or somebody posted it for him this tom clansso opposed it. I should probably be dead now. This is Tom Clancy saying that. I've never read anything like it before.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It feels melodramatic since I never really felt all that bad. Five or six Fridays ago, I felt a little punk. He was tired, all these things. Something rather odd happened. I was sitting in the room and the TV was on probably to a news channel and started moving. Imagine sitting in the dead center of a movie theater and the stuff on the screen starts moving left to right at high speed. Like 20 RPM or so. Very strange.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Stranger still, I didn't feel dizzy from it. He sat down to digest this phenomenon and in due course, say about 90 seconds, it stopped. How very odd, I thought. 20 minutes later, it happened again, this time for maybe 30 seconds. And that made me think something was generally wrong. They got, went to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Wait, wait, look, he says a good guy. Good, okay, good guy, good doc, now living in Florida. Yeah. I thought he was saying like a good guy doc, like maybe somebody might have been bad. they sent him off for various tests which were unremarkable so i was checking to a hospital for proper observation next day test began in earnest you bleed into test tubes all these things talks about the tests a couple of docs came in to see me one of whom i will call dr b dr b is ordinary looking chap
Starting point is 00:40:27 about two weeks younger than i am i would later learn he looked smart um he told me that one of my coronary arteries was 100% blocked and the rest of the important ones were 90% blocked by myself listening to the doctor carefully those are scary numbers um he was a smoker and a drinker by the way as well so he ended up having bypass surgery started taking lipitor he said yep but i mean so he's 66 he's had bypass surgery already it's plausible it is not out of the realm of possibility that he his heart gave out like that's totally possible not at all so why not put that on the autopsy i don't know yeah well i mean incompetence Have you seen the autopsy?
Starting point is 00:41:11 No, no. Hold on. Let's see if we can find it. Plancy autopsy. His family chose not to release it. There's no legal requirement forcing detailed disclosure. Oh, God, there's another Tom Clancy who was found dead in his car, shot in the back of his head in 1983. Okay, so now I know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. Tom Clancy, one of the Tom Clancy. one of the Tom Clancy's on the earth creates a robot or something that destroys the world and so from the future they have to send back but they don't know which one is which
Starting point is 00:42:00 they're just killing all the Tom Clansies that's probably what's happening I like that I actually really like that all right okay so yeah totally possible he could have died of a heart attack and you know that that would be fine
Starting point is 00:42:15 but I just you know i i feel like there's uh definitely something to this guy coming forward and saying that both andrew bright barton tom clancy were murdered and uh i've heard other people obviously over the years speculate that tom clancy was uh was murdered by the obamas now can't throw one more thing at you go ahead go ahead sure just to pour a little more skeptic on the wound how many times and be honest with yourselves you don't have to give me an answer but you guys in the chat too how many times have we seen somebody come into the truth community with a background in either military or intelligence or something and they come out saying all these things and throwing all these
Starting point is 00:42:57 theories and all this stuff out there yeah and then over the course of time you realize that that person is a total piece of shit chill it's it's the it's a story as old as time like it happens all the damn time that was the next thing that I was going to say the other the opposite of him having some level of, you know, knowledge is that he never left the CIA. They sent him out into the world to just breed conspiracy theories and to make people believe things that didn't really happen. So yes, yes. And obviously, it's it's all up in the year. We don't have any firm or, you know, lasting information that we can point to. But you will never convince me that Andrew Breitbart died of natural causes.
Starting point is 00:43:45 all right so trying to but all right so um now i couldn't find anything to verify this but i have read it from a number of sources and so i say it with a fair amount of skepticism um Anton and Scalia uh you know he died what it was like 2016 if i'm not mistaken um hold on or was it 2015 okay so 2016 of 2016 yeah so tail end of Obama's administration and he uh obviously that that would give Obama the opportunity to choose a Supreme Court justice I'm sure that he would have chosen a you know super lefty he had done it already um and Mitch McConnell basically refused to bring anybody before the Senate do much what they're doing to President Trump right now held it
Starting point is 00:44:46 hostage and then President Trump was able to replace him when he came in so how old was he he was born in 1936 was he was he 80 years old I mean again call me crazy
Starting point is 00:45:12 but yeah no I know it is it possible he died of old age it could have been possible that he died of old age all right but it was a convenient death certainly and he and obama were not friends uh obama did not go to his funeral either which was certainly unusual i mean even president trump when uh ruth bader ginsberg died you remember on the tarmac he's like blue jean babies playing in the background it's like oh my god i'm just i didn't know that i'm hearing that now for the very first time that's one of my favorite clips President Trump.
Starting point is 00:45:48 It's a great meme. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. So there's one. There's one death. So in 2008, when Barack Obama was running for president, there was a woman and her daughter, Lois Anderson, she was 79, and her daughter, Zelda White, was 52. They were both American women who were working in Nairobi, Kenya.
Starting point is 00:46:15 They were aid workers. They were somehow affiliated with the Presbyterian Church. I want to say they were like ministers or something like that. And they had been working in Africa for a very long time. And they were both shot to death. Wait, who's this? These are two women working in Nairobi, Kenya. This is notable because Obama was rumored to have been born in Kenya.
Starting point is 00:46:45 actually said that he was born in Kenya in an older version of one of his books what but how does that connect to scalia on them it doesn't i'm moving on to the next person we move for the next i was like what the hell are you talking about okay now now i'm tracking okay okay okay all right so this is going to be all over the place it's not a uh chronological list of uh of deaths but you know we hit the end of Obama's presidency now we're jumping to before he was president. So, so they were from Pennsylvania. They were affiliated with the Presbyterian Church.
Starting point is 00:47:21 They were doing relief and aid work in Kenya. And they were like super well known in Kenya because they had been there for years. And they were shot to death by an assassin. And the only way that this connects to the Obama is, because of how long they had been there. And it was rumored at the time that potentially they might have knowledge of the birth or the, you know, rearing of Barack Obama in Kenya. And they might have been murdered to cover the trails.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Somebody who could connect Barack Obama to Kenya and say that, you know, he wasn't an American, that he was born someplace else. Now, the husband, the father was also murdered, but he wasn't doing the same stuff that he was doing. He was just with them both when they were all murdered in cold blood. The reason it seems like it's more of an assassination than anything else is because the father had his wallet still on him. It was full of money. It wasn't a carjacking because they didn't steal the car. they just murdered him and the people who killed him were just like Kenyan thugs they had no connection
Starting point is 00:48:46 to the Andersons or their daughter and they were never able to make a connection to them and they just kind of wrote it off as a homicide and a carjacking now shortly after they were murdered their church was burned down and there was speculation at the time that perhaps there may have been birth records at that church which would show that again Barack Obama was was born in Kenya and the chief of police in Nairobi his name was Mohammed Hussein Ali he was actually removed from office by a wealthy Kenyan supporter of Barack Obama, a man by the name of Odinga, and any witnesses who saw the murder of this family,
Starting point is 00:49:46 they all ended up dead. And there was basically nothing left at the end of it. And the only public official that was connected to the investigation, he was no longer part of the Kenyan police. And so the investigation just stalled. And nobody ever got any, closure on exactly what happened to them. So just a strange series of events.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was also, did you know, there was another attack shortly after Benghazi. It was called Camp Bastion. I did not know that. Okay. So Camp Bastion was three days after Benghazi.
Starting point is 00:50:34 and Camp Bastion was in Afghanistan. And this was, you know, very similar to what happened in Benghazi. That's a British camp, it looks like. Well, and there were two U.S. Marines that were killed in this particular battle. Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Rabel and Sergeant Bradley Atwell. And I guess that this was hardly talked about. I didn't find out about this for a very long time. Benghazi commanded airtime on news and, you know, in stories and stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:12 But yeah, so they, you know, their camp was was attacked. They were quietly killed. They did not broadcast the, you know, bringing them home. I mean, they got, you know, the same type of heroes welcome that anybody does when, you know, you die overseas. But they weren't talked about. And they just, for some reason, it was ignored. by the mainstream media. Now, this was an attack by terrorists in Afghanistan, and shortly after it happened,
Starting point is 00:51:46 it was described as the worst day in marine aviation history since the Tet Offensive in 1968, which is pretty crazy, but eight irreplaceable aircraft were destroyed or completely taken out of action by Taliban warriors. Now, what's interesting is that the Taliban were dressed in U.S. military combat fatigues. When they attack the base? Yes, when they attack the base. No way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And the damage to the planes represented 7% of the total USMC Harrier fleet. So, you know, they attack this base. A Harrier squadron commander is dead along with another Marine. They wounded nine personnel. and there were Marines that were nearby at Camp Freedom, who now were unable to fly. And I don't know why they responded in the way that they did, but it was pretty much described as a failure of leadership,
Starting point is 00:52:53 because very similar to Benghazi, they just didn't send in any help. I should probably ask Nick about this because I've never thought to... Nick No? Yeah, Nick No. Yeah, yeah. So I've never heard any, you know, sort of, I guess, explanation of this. I mean, it might have just been that it was written off as another random Taliban attack.
Starting point is 00:53:17 But it was speculated that perhaps Pakistan might have been behind the attack itself. And I mean, how do we know that they were Taliban? Where did they get their U.S. military fatigues, you know? Prince Harry was on the base at the time of the attack. Oh, wild. Okay. Yeah. That's interesting. But he was never in any danger because it was a super real military service, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Now, the U.S. had done work with Pakistani special forces, and they were operating in Afghanistan on behalf of, you know, Islamabad and their proxies and allies in the region. um now what's also interesting i think why people might think that obama had some dog in this fight um is that when he was asked about the deaths of the civilian and diplomatic staff and the contractors at bangazi and you know this attack here just a couple of days later um he referred to it as a bump in the road, which is sort of callous, I think. And it was, you know, also, I think unusual for anybody who knew about a Camp Bastion that the White House made absolutely no mention of it.
Starting point is 00:54:44 The Pentagon didn't speak out about it publicly. The White House didn't speak out about it publicly. You know, and somehow you've got like a group of 15 Taliban. ban insurgents who show up with with U.S. military uniforms, assault rifles, they had RPGs. And one of the things that was said about Benghazi is that there was weapons trafficking that was going on through there. And it's possible that perhaps weapons may have made their way into the hands of other people who hated America. and then those weapons were then taken and used to kill additional Americans afterwards. There was also another attack on, well, hold on, what was the date of Benghazi?
Starting point is 00:55:41 Benghazi was on September 11, so this would have been September 14th. And there was also, I guess, a previous attack. So it would have been about six months. I guess, you know, sometime in March of that year, there was an attempted suicide bombing at Camp Bastion. And it was a Afghani that had, I guess, driven his vehicle through the wire through the defenses at the outskirts of the base. And he drove and he was also trying to destroy the same aircraft that these supposed Taliban soldiers were able to get in and destroy. and he basically was stopped by some guards and they were able to kill him and and take him out of there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta was at the base when that happened. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. So yeah, that could have been obviously totally disastrous. All right. What's that? Would it have been though?
Starting point is 00:56:45 It would have been disastrous for the administration. For humanity, it would have been no problem at all. Okay. Yeah. So he's a douchebag? he's a total douchebag William Panetta is no hero I never really paid attention
Starting point is 00:56:58 I just assumed you know being in that administration but yeah good to know case I ever come across him I can call him a douchebag to his face yeah okay and then there was a Chicago activist
Starting point is 00:57:12 a guy by the name of Jeff hold on Jeff Joe Black and Jeff Joe Black and Jeff Joe Black was an activist in Chicago, so we would have been, you know, active around the same time as Barack Obama. And he was found with blunt force trauma to the head on a hiking trail. And,
Starting point is 00:57:37 and that was it. He had spoken out publicly about Rahm Emanuel. And he claimed that Rahm Emanuel had been put into power in Chicago in order to to perpetrate some type of a false flag or something like that. And then shortly after that, somebody kills him while he's on a hiking trail. And as far as he connected to Obama? He was just an activist in Chicago. He so, I mean, he didn't know Barack Obama personally, but he was just somebody who spoke out against the Obama administration, specifically spoke. Rahm Emanuel used to be Barack Obama's chief of staff, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 And so he left the administration to go become the mayor of Chicago. And once he went to become the mayor of Chicago, Jeff Joe Black was like, this guy's bad. He's going to do some stuff here in Chicago. He's going to, he specifically accused him of being put into power to perpetrate a false flag. And then after saying that, he's mysteriously murdered on a hiking trail with no witnesses. and as far as I know, there was no, the murder wasn't solved. And hold on a sec. I was just able to find a old article that is no longer online.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So I'm going to go ahead and try to go to the Wayback Machine and see what I can find. Okay, so go back to 2012. One thing that's pretty interesting about trying to find, information about these people is that there are there have been articles that have been written there's you know retrospectives or information about people um but the vast majority of it is not available on the wayback machine or on the surface web um they've been scrubbed from there too it's been scrubbed from both places yeah wow and like you'll see that there would like you going back over the period of like, you know, 15 years, articles have have been saved in the
Starting point is 00:59:46 Wayback Machine, but then you'll go in there and it's totally broken. All right. So here it is. October 30th, 2012, Allegheny County Police are asking anyone with information about a man who died on the Montour Trail last week to call them. Jeffrey Black, 43 of Coropolis, was found dead on the trail shortly after 10 a.m. on Friday. Allegheny County Medical Examiner's Office found that died of blunt force trauma to the head and trunk, but he has not yet ruled on the manner of death. So it sounds like he got beaten up pretty badly. Lieutenant Andrew Sherman wrote in a news release that Mr. Black either fell or jumped to his death below the overpass. Mr. Black was a slender white man with a thin build.
Starting point is 01:00:32 He was wearing black Steelers T-shirt on top of a purple button-down shirt and black jeans. we probably got killed because he's a Steelers fan they could be it um they say that he died between 920 and 954 a m so they found him almost as soon as he jumped off if that time of death lines up and they're asking for anybody to uh to step forward um so i haven't been able to find anything about um you know additional about his death only that yeah that happened um all right now i mentioned a couple of
Starting point is 01:01:08 gay men who were connected to Barack Obama. Those men were Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. We did talk about them. We did an entire episode on I believe Obama's gay lovers. But so Donald Young... This is a different kind of body count. Yes. Totally different kind of body count.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Just for a refresher. Donald Young, he was the 47-year-old choir master at Obama's Church. Reverend Jeremiah writes Trinity United Church of Christ. Allegedly Obama warm up those pipes. Oh, God. Obama allegedly attended Trinity for 20 years. That was always the narrative. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama didn't act.
Starting point is 01:02:07 actually go to that church and perhaps you know i mean he just you know was officially a member there and maybe jeremiah right was just willing to play along i i don't know uh i i can't can't verify that obama just doesn't seem like the church going type to me but why is that because he's black no because because i think he's a godless heathen all right i think that baroque obama if he has a soul he sold it long ago that's fair just i have to clarify So Donald Young was one of three. Larry Bland and Nate Spencer were the other two. Larry Bland and Nate Spencer both were murdered execution style.
Starting point is 01:02:54 They were both shot in the back of the head. And I'm pretty sure that Donald Young was as well. I think that they, they pinned that one as a robbery. gone wrong or something like that. But the really interesting part, besides the fact that you have at least two guaranteed assassinations because they're both murdered as they're kneeling on the floor, all of those deaths, all three of those deaths occurred. The gauge up there, but continue. Oh, man. All three of their deaths happened within 40 days of
Starting point is 01:03:29 each other. And their deaths started in November of 2007. All three of them were also open homosexuals. And now it's so all three of them attended the same church with Obama allegedly for, you know, at least several years. Obama says that he went there for 20 years. Now, Larry Sinclair, okay, he was just a drug dealing prostitute or a crack smoking gay prostitute at the time. And, and he's the one who said that, you know, he took an Obama, he took a limo ride with Obama. It was for sex. And then Obama was like, can you get me some crack cocaine? And then they got some crack cocaine. And then Larry serviced him. And Larry had personal knowledge of Obama, at least knowing the two, Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. And there was a series of
Starting point is 01:04:31 encounters that Larry had with Barack Obama. He also claimed, that Donald Young, the choir director, had contacted Larry just shortly before he was murdered. Now, the only difference in his murder is that he was shot more than once. He was shot multiple times in December of 2007. So when this, what? Just a question. Yeah. We're going over the Obama body count right now, right?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Yes. Why would they not have killed Sinclair? Well, because he didn't come forward initially. I think that likely with these three men, Larry Sinclair was a random, right? John, you know, tell me if you think I'm wrong, but I tend to think that, that promiscuous gay men. or probably going out and, you know, they're picking up random dudes on the regular, okay? Well, how do I know if that's what they do? I'm just saying, like, I mean, this is, this is how I perceive the lifestyle, okay?
Starting point is 01:05:44 If you are a state senator and you're like, you know, hey, limo driver, like, take me down to whatever the street is where I can pick up a gay hooker and get some crack cocaine. If you're doing that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, for a lot of people, that's a deal breaker. I mean, obviously Obama was cool with this. So I tend to believe that Obama probably did that regularly. Like Larry Sinclair wasn't unusual. And what sets the three men at Obama's church apart is that he was having regular sexual encounters with all of them.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And when Barack Obama became a viable presidential candidate or it was decided that they were going to push Barack Obama onto the national scene, those three in particular, due to their proximity to Obama, became liabilities. And who knows? I mean, maybe one or more of them thought they were in love with Obama. Maybe they thought that, you know, oh, he's, you know, oh, my gosh, you know, oh, you're going to be president. You're going to take me to the White House.
Starting point is 01:06:55 You know, I don't know. I mean, they sound like. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. I just I think that there was probably danger. I mean, you just don't kill people without having a reason, right? And I think that I think that those three probably posed a danger to Barack Obama's ascension, which is why I think he was killed.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Okay. I think it's possible. That makes the most sense to me. Now, when they were killed, of course, the story wasn't that, you know, they knew Barack Obama. I mean, basically, nobody knew who the hell Barack Obama was at this point outside of Chicago. But it was it was billed as a hate crime. Like, you know, gay African-American activists were being targeted in Chicago. And, and that maybe there was a serial killer that was on the loose.
Starting point is 01:07:52 And Larry Sinclair has, you know, he lived in the Chicago area at that time. He actually, during the investigation of these three men, he went into the police, Chicago Police Department, and he signed an affidavit and said that specifically Donald Young had spoken to him. And he was told by Donald Young that he and Barack Obama were intimate on the regular. And the- Claire said, the other guy said he was intimate with Obama regularly? Yeah, yeah. I mean, what I'm saying is that during the course of the police investigation into the murder of Donald Young, Larry Sinclair came forward and went to the Chicago police and said, I have knowledge about potentially why Donald Young may have been murdered, that he was intimate with Barack Hussein Obama, who is now candidate for president of the United States. And according to Larry's now, okay, so, and this may have something to do.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I'm sure it does, has a large factor in why Larry Sinclair came forward. Because it was January of 2008. So within a month of these three murders taking place, that's when he did his press conference, his live press conference. That's right. Yeah. And he went on the record and said that on two separate occasions in November of 1999, he had sexual relations of one former or another with Barack. Obama and that Obama smoked crack cocaine while he was doing his thing on him. And it happened in the limousine and then also at a hotel in Gurney, Illinois.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Now, you asked why Donald Young? Sinclair was also asked why Donald Young? Why would Donald Young, who he had never met, initiate contact with Larry Sinclair? What's that? How did he know that this was after? The press conference? No, no, no. This is before, he didn't do the press conference until after Donald Young had been killed.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah, so that is weird. How did, how did, is it, well, this might be that gator they're talking about. No, no, no, I think, well, I mean, unless you're counting Obama as the gator, because when Donald Young called Larry Sinclair, he called him from a number of cell phone numbers that were affiliated with the Obama campaign. Ah. Very damning. very very damning i think that initially donald young was probably doing recon uh to reach out to larry
Starting point is 01:10:32 sinclair and see if maybe he was going to be a problem for baroque obama if maybe he needed to you know get a couple of double taps to the back of the head as well so um no that was i mean that was a gun reference but the joke sorry double shots i think you say yeah yeah okay sorry that was right over my head uh But there was a private investigator who was connected somehow to the Chicago Police Department. He said that Donald Young was silenced because he specifically knew something about Obama. And obviously if Donald Young and Barack Obama had been members of the same church for 20 years and were having regular sexual relations. And then he also knew about these two younger men that Barack Obama was having sexual relations with.
Starting point is 01:11:25 and Barack Obama entrusted Donald Young to try to run down leads for him. He could have just gotten to the end of his usefulness for the, for the Obama campaign. Yeah, yeah. Now, there are others who were connected to Barack Obama, a man who was named Lawrence Lessig. Lawrence Lessig is an openly gay professor at Stanford law. he was actually listed on the Obama campaign's well the 2008 Obama campaign as being part of Obama's
Starting point is 01:12:05 technology initiative. I don't know what that means that he did but maybe Obama had had relations with his professor or something like that. Ran his Grindr account maybe. Maybe. I don't know that they had Grindr back then, but yeah, I don't know when that came out. Interesting. So that's, was that four gay men? well i mean it's four gay men that i can place in this time here no five gay men if you count the
Starting point is 01:12:31 professor six of you count michel that's right six of you count michel yeah yeah um so anyways um larry sinclair also um had speculated that the murder of young was done to essentially perhaps draw cover for the murders of these other two gay black men. Maybe they thought, you know, you know, two. Well, I mean, you've got two at the same church that, you know, and they're both essentially assassinated. You throw in a third gay black man and then you can call it a serial killer. And then, you know, people have more attention to it. Well, maybe, but I mean, you know, I mean, I feel like the two murders on their own.
Starting point is 01:13:19 were definitely suspicious. But then you've got a third, and then somebody come forward and says, you know, oh, my God, they're hunting gay black men in Chicago. We need to look out for each other. And then you don't have to kill anybody else. You just put a healthy dose of fear into the community. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:37 So, and then there was, oh, this one's really interesting. Oh, actually, you know what? I've got a clip of Sheriff Joe Arpio. He said that he spoke with Andrew Breitbart just shortly before. death it's like six minutes i haven't actually listened to it yet but um sheriff joe arpaio is somebody else who was directly targeted by the obama administration so i thought that this might be an interesting thing uh maybe yeah yeah place for an outro let's let's do this and then i've got a video to open with next week uh there was a barraq obama impersonator who offended
Starting point is 01:14:14 Barack Obama with his impersonation and then very shortly after that he was dead under mysterious circumstances. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, how about this? Let's get a quick word from our final sponsor, which is us. And Gart. And then we'll do boost and rants. There's just a couple of them and then we'll play that video.
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Starting point is 01:16:22 like a rant, except we keep more of it. We only hold the processing fee. The rest all goes to the creators and we'll read it on air just like a rumble rant, except you don't have to be watching live to leave it. And 1027JS, my phone North Dakota and Joe, she says,
Starting point is 01:16:38 hello for $20. Thank you so much for that show. Appreciate you. And then we got Peyton here. G. Fontes 119 says in 1999, I heard Glenn Beck in Tampa Bay Market, Florida, when he first started his talk radio career in the same time slot, he has ever since 9 to noon, rose quickly to national fame post 9-11. Did not know that.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Interesting. Ace G-13, tipped via rumble wallet. Thank you so much for that. And we have GFontas 101. Wasn't Tom Clancy, the author of the books at Harrison Ford, Alk Baldwin and Ben Affleck played character Jack Ryan in four movies? Yes, absolutely. John Krasinski in the
Starting point is 01:17:19 Jack Ryan series on Amazon. Yeah. And then Peyton Poo's, let me get this straight because I am. Three homosexuals die getting shot in the back of the head. I think the hell did it wrong. Oh, God. I have one video. I want to play before we do
Starting point is 01:17:36 your video. But I have to take us off of of YouTube to do it. Okay. So, because I don't want to get dinged. but um this is a video so by youtube thank you hit the thumbs up let me check up any no rants or anything over there but i'm going to take us off of there and then this is uh
Starting point is 01:17:58 it's from a documentary i believe and it talks about obama's gay sex life it's kind of about the story and whatnot so i think this is fitting then we'll go right from this into into your videos so make sure you have it ready zach i do yeah all right let's do this real quick They're under an overpass for the night. Can you find anything? Yeah, we found a lot of stuff. From bodily fluid and hair samples, we determined that a bunch of old homeless dudes
Starting point is 01:18:31 had an orgy in the car. Oh, God. Yeah. You know what that's called when they do that in there? It's called a soup kitchen. It's pretty rough stuff. Not long after that, a mama raccoon came along and gave birth on the floor.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Placenta blew out all over the back window there. Jesus. Yeah, and then to top it all off, some joker comes along, takes himself a nifty little dump in the driver's seat. I think he knew you guys were cops, because this is what I would call a spite shit. You were able to determine all of that from the hair and fluid samples. Oh, yeah. What about fingerprints? You find any fingerprints? Nope. Couldn't get a one.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Find a cell phone. Yeah, that's mine. Any signs of a struggle or spent shells? No, believe me, everybody that was in on this orgy was more than willing. In fact, they even left you a note here. Thanks for the F-Shack. Love dirty Mike and the boys. Here's something we found.
Starting point is 01:19:22 We found about a dozen unscratched lottery ticket. I don't know if a junkie can go down a 20-story zip line. How are you fellas doing? We're about to have us a little screw party in this red preas over here if you want to join us. Oh, you're not going anywhere near that Prius, okay? Here's what we're talking about. We're talking about a bunch of hobos with fingers in each other's pooper in a stranger's car with talk radio playing really loud. It's going to be a nice evening.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Well, we're not participating in that. We have no interest. Let me rephrase it. We've got a jar of old mustard, and we got a poodle, and we're just going to get in there. We're going to put some D's and some A's. Hey, are you dirty Mike and the boys? How you know who we are?
Starting point is 01:20:01 You left a note in that car. Police, shithead. He's a coffer. We've got to go. Come on. Hey, get you, boys. Your cops. Love your dicks on the car as you run away.
Starting point is 01:20:09 You turn my beautiful briz into a nightmare. We are going to have sex in your car. It will happen again. I don't know where I'm going to sleep tonight. A man who worked as a choir conductor and school teacher has found shot to death. The victim, 47-year-old Donald Young. Good evening, everyone. Young's death has been ruled a homicide.
Starting point is 01:20:44 His body was discovered yesterday morning inside his south side home at 2320 East 69th Street. ABC 7th. Michelle Gallardo is here now with more on the case and how young is being remembered tonight. Michelle? Ravi, Donald Young was the fourth of eight siblings. he was, according to those who loved him, the type of person who didn't take life for granted. He lived every day to the fullest.
Starting point is 01:21:05 So whether it was in the Southside classroom where he taught or at church conducting the choir every Sunday, Young made an impression on those who met him. He was one of those success stories in terms of a kid whom the average person would look at and say he doesn't have a chance. And yet, before his death, Donald Young succeeded mightily. Among other things, he was a choir conductor at Treaty United Church of Christ for many years. This amateur video shot just last week shows him doing what for him wasn't a profession, but a calling.
Starting point is 01:21:44 He came to our church as 12-year-old. He was not brought by the mother and father. He just came because of the other kids and became active in the church. The church became Young's extended family. When news of his killing came during Sunday morning services, Reverend Wright tells us many parishioners got up and went straight to Young's home. This third floor apartment from the 2,300 block of East 69th Street is where Young was found by his roommate, shot to death. He was a person who believed in loving people with God love, agape love that a lot of us don't unconditional love. Young was also a fifth grade teacher at Guggenheim Elementary.
Starting point is 01:22:24 And tonight, family spokesperson Dennis Cole told us Young had just finished a double master's in early child education and math. His ambition related to you this from yesterday, but it's so relevant. It happens the same time you're having this press conference. Andrew Breitbart, who also was at the conservative leadership conference last year, as our keynote speaker, if you recall, he died yesterday early morning hours. and he was supposed to have released some, as they say, damning Obama footage. And you're a law enforcement official. Michael Savage has suggested that Breitbart was assassinated.
Starting point is 01:23:04 We don't know that. But, I mean, if you were a sheriff or a law enforcement official in Los Angeles, would you be seriously looking into the death of Andrew Breitbart? Well, I'm going to give you a scoop. Okay. First of all, I talked to him four or five hours before he died, okay? You did. He called me.
Starting point is 01:23:25 And we talked about, he knew that I was having a press conference the day after. This was the 29. And he said he had information and all that. Now, I've been around a long time in Washington through the Watergate. I can tell you, G. Gordon, Lee, I know all this stuff. I've been a federal official for 30 years. So I know about Washington. I haven't worked there at three different times.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I'm not going into a conspiracy theory, but you always got to keep your eyes and ears open. You can't just disregard any situation. Here's a person that I have a lot of respect for. He calls me, and right after that, he dies. Now, am I a jinx or what's going on here? I would hope not, because I called you too. I do want to know, though, what did he talk to you about? What did he have to say?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Well, he knew I was having a press conference on March 1. He had Jerry Corsi told me he was going to call me. He had the information on tapes or whatever. So the man calls me. And quite frankly, I didn't remember him. You know, I got so many calls. And he mentioned that he's happy I'm doing my press conference and had some good information. And then I hear that he dies four or five days, four or five a hundred.
Starting point is 01:24:47 hours later. So I don't know. Am I the kiss of death or what? Wow. I feel sorry for his family. I'm beginning to learn more about him. And I didn't really, I may have met him at the ear meeting. I don't know, but he called me. And I talked to him. Yeah, he was the keynote speaker. You were one of our speakers, too, and he was the keynote speaker. And, I mean, he overwhelmed people because he was supposed to speak like up to 30 minutes. He went on for an hour and a half, no one began to leave the room, as they don't when you speak as well. So, I mean, there are certain people that, you know, do command a great sense of attention.
Starting point is 01:25:22 So he knew me. I just forgot. I get so many talk shows. I can't keep track. But I knew he was going to call me. Of course, he told me that. And isn't it sad? I mean, it's really sad because it's home when you talk to somebody and then I don't
Starting point is 01:25:38 care who it is four or five hours later you hear he died. That's sad. It's 43 years old and he was going to release later in the day. Later in the day, this Obama footage showing him with Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn back in the day planning for Obama to be run for the presidency. And the day he's supposed to release it, right after he talks to you about your press conference yesterday, somehow he mysteriously dies walking back from a bar late at night. That is just amazing. Well, I send my condolences to the family. I just happened to see him on TV and got to remember him again.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Quite frankly, when I talked to him, I didn't connect him, meeting him prior. But it's sad. So I don't know what's going on with this whole situation with the birth certificate. I just have to do my job. I gave it to the Cole Kay's posse. I swear in citizens, they've been sworn in years ago, ex-com. attorneys. So I anybody that accuses me of wasting taxpayers money, they can't accuse me of that. They're accusing me locally of everything he can think about that I
Starting point is 01:26:54 did this to cover up the Justice Department. I think I told you about that. I'm just doing my job. 250 tea party people came to me and said sure if you're our last hope. Can you look into it? Okay. I've got to ask you one last question, which is an obvious one, especially in light of the death of Andrew Breitbart. Are you taking good care for your own safety. You're concerned about your safety given what you're releasing. Listen, I got Mexican cartels after me. In fact, they're pretty cheap. It's only four millions. So I got all these threats. Just busted a guy in Portland and threatened to kill me. There's a guy in Tennessee where wants to kill me because of Obama working on him. I get these
Starting point is 01:27:32 threats all the time. I'm a big guy. Been around law enforcement 50 years. Maybe I ought to go to Las Vegas. Trump will give me one of his rooms. All right. Where's Trump with all this stuff? Too busy endorsing Romney? Well, actually, Trump came out and was questioning the president's birth certificate a long time ago as well. So, you know, I didn't do anything. No, he questioned a long time ago. He's not a law enforcement guy.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Now you've got a law enforcement agency looking at it. Well, the first one looking at it, Sheriff Joe Rapio from Maricopa County, Arizona. As soon, as always, Sheriff Joe, America's Sheriff, thank you for being with us. And we do look forward to seeing you here in June at the conservative. Leadership Conference. We want you up here, okay? Wasn't invited, but I'll be glad to go. I'm inviting you right now in front of thousands of people. You pay in my way?
Starting point is 01:28:22 I'll have to talk to Chuck Muth about that. I'm not sure. But we've got to get you up here. All right. All right. Sure, Joe, thanks for joining us, and thanks for letting us talk to Mayor's the best as well. Thank you. All right. Bye-bye.

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