Badlands Media - Breaking History Ep. 140: Iran War, Energy Politics, and the Battle Over the Middle East Narrative

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

Matt Ehret and Ghost examine the rapidly escalating conflict involving Iran, Israel, and the broader Middle East, exploring how energy markets, diplomacy, and competing geopolitical narratives are shaping the crisis. The conversation begins with analysis of recent discussions between Trump and Putin and the surprising impact those talks had on global oil prices, raising questions about whether major powers are quietly managing economic pressure behind the scenes. The hosts also dig into the competing strategic interests of Israel, Iran, Russia, China, and India, while questioning the narratives being pushed through Western media. They discuss energy supply routes, sanctions policy, and the possibility that global trade corridors and resource access are major drivers behind the conflict. Throughout the episode, Matt and Ghost explore the ideological motivations influencing the region, including religious interpretations, political movements, and the influence of historical narratives on modern geopolitics. They also address how misinformation, propaganda, and selective historical framing have shaped public perception in the West, particularly regarding Iran and the broader Islamic world. The discussion ultimately asks whether the current crisis represents a turning point in global power dynamics, as emerging alliances, economic interests, and competing worldviews collide in one of the most volatile regions on Earth.

of the badlands explain those badlands that's a hell of a name all right welcome everybody oh i'm waiting here for gordon who has just entered the stage how are you doing gordon i'm good i'm good man uh how are you today um i'm all right i'm all right keeping on keeping on keeping on um i see that you got a new camera the things seem a little bit crisper by a by a slight margin that's good yeah yeah yeah my old one stopped working the other day and i've been using the laptop like default camera for the past few days, which is not great. But so I finally bit the bullet and went on and got one this morning. But yeah, so anyway, technology.

Yeah, I had actually invested in like a $350 microphone at a certain point. And I found that just going back to my $50 blue snowball was actually way better. The quality of this little thing is better than anything else that I've spent money on. So is that a microphone or a camera? I guess this is a microphone, just a mic. Yeah. But also the camera, the camera's pretty cheap. It's like 40 bucks as well.

I try like higher end cameras and I just like this little easy Logitech thing. Yeah, this thing's like, yeah, it was like 35 bucks. But it's funny. Like I actually didn't even think the laptop camera was terrible. It's just that it's hard to get like the angle right and it like is so zoomed in on your face that I have to like push the laptop so far away from from me. You know, so anyway. Yeah, you don't want to get too much into people's personal space, even if it's digital.

So, yeah, no, look, man, we're in week two of the Iran War. Definitely some thoughts to share about that, some analysis, both in the current situation, but also in some of the narratives that have been spun that I'm encountering. I'm sure you're encountering a lot of the same things, fallacies that are worrying that I'd like to sort of share a few observations about. Maybe the audience has also encountered some of these narratives, too. But before we do anything, let's maybe listen to a word from one or two of today's sponsors, and then we'll jump right into it. The first sponsor that I see on this list today is rattlesnake meat. So here we go. What's really on your plate? Grocery store beef could have dozens of DNA profiles,

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And don't forget, every order throws fuel on the fire of the made-in USA parallel economy. So grab something now at badlandsmedia.com. Right. Cool. So there's a lot of entry points into the topic of today's show, which is basically reality and different hypotheses about what's shaping reality. Definitely. There's been a lot of disappointment. There's some hope. I know that let's start with this. Maybe Putin and Trump just had a conversation. What do you know about that? Do you know what they were talking about? Are you referring to the one that occurred, I think, on Monday? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So my understanding, I covered that on my show yesterday. My understanding is that lasted an hour.

They said it was the first time that they had spoken since December, which I find a little surprising. But yeah, they discussed both the Iran conflict and the Ukraine conflict. My suspicion is that we're going to see those two conflicts merge in terms of diplomacy and how it's all handled. like how it's done. And as I've long suspected, and I still continue to suspect, Russia is going to somehow be involved in the Israel situation. It's just more and more. It's pivoting towards that in-game. So, yeah, that's, that was a big discussion point. I know energy was a big discussion point. Putin had announced that they,

were potential, I think he announced before the call that they were basically going to stop selling Europe natural gas. He was kind of like, if y'all are just going to keep messing around with us, like, jerking us around with this NATO, Ukraine situation, we'll just cut off your energy. You won't have energy anymore. Something, by the way, that Trump warned them about during his first term, famously at the 2018, I believe, I think was the G7, it made in the G20. But again, that famous photo of Trump sitting there like this with Anhella Merkel, like leaning over the table. That conversation was about the fact that Trump was like, why am I, the United States, paying to defend you, Germany, when you buy all your energy from Russia? Like, I'm paying to defend you

from a Russian threat when your entire economy is based on, is like dependent on Russia. That doesn't make any sense. So he's like, so either you need to pay your fair share or you need to change your relationship with Russia, which obviously it wasn't going to happen. So you need to pay your fair share in NATO. Or we need to discuss what natives, like, long-term objectives are. And that's what triggered these Europeans leaders to get so angry. They're like, how dare you expect us to spend money, like, you know, the hubris of it all? But anyway, I digress. I think right after that phone call, if I recall correctly, the sequence of events, was Trump had the phone call with Putin.

He didn't help. I don't remember if it was a press conference. It might have been an interview with CBS News, but he appeared on television and made the statement that, yeah, you know, I think we're way ahead of schedule with this whole Iran thing. I think we might actually be over. Like it might be completely over, you know, what we're trying to achieve. And that led to the oil, the price of oil crashing from $96 to about $84,

where it's a trading right over. Last last I checked, I think it was trading in the mid-80s. Sunday it was trading, I think, as high as 119. And it was hovering right around 100 when Trump and Putin spoke. It crashed initially, I think, from 119 down to like the high 90s upon the news that the IEA, I think it is, an international group of oil producers, the Arabs and others. mean, you mean OPEC or the IEA is more atomic energy, right? They called it the IEA.

I, the IEA, the International Energy Energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know what you mean. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like OPEC and other groups as well. But they released 400 million barrels of reserves out into the marketplace, which helped balance out the supply of demand issues. So that crashed the price of the price down from 119 to like high 90s.

And then Trump Putin had the phone call. And then Trump came out and said, you know what? The Iran War might be winding this thing down. And so that crashed the price down in the mid-80s. And that's important because, you know, that had the price of oil, my understanding, and I'm not an expert on the oil markets, but my understanding is that the price had remained above $100 a barrel much longer that we would have seen the price at the pump go up like $5 a gallon on average.

So, you know, that is, I think. Trump and Putin may be managing the global economy a little bit. I'll be interested to see more of what happens between Trump and Putin. But again, like, I think that relationship is so much more advanced and stronger than we've been led to believe, at least in the public and public optics. I'm way more interested, however, in Israel and what's happening there. Yeah. Well, just quick, I noticed that on the Wall Street Journal, there was a strange strange news item two days ago, which was basically just a screenshot.

USA has big favor to ask of China, buy less oil from Russia, more from America. That was a weird one where Bessant described a continuing effort to try to get China to instead buy American oil and gas products instead of using Russia, which is a similar kind of, it's a very weird line because, on one hand, the U.S. has been very, adamant both through the Biden and even Trump administration that China is the primary strategic threats. You know, the multipolar alliance is led by China is trying to destroy the U.S. dollar.

That has to be stopped. And then to have a statement like that is weird. At the same time, as Modi had just met with Trump on March 2nd, I think, right? And part of that discussion, too, was efforts to try to get India to stop buying Russian gas and instead buy from the U.S. to try to create a demand in some ways as well on Venezuela, which is very difficult to process their low grade. They've got a lot of oil, but from what I've been reading, the oil is very, very, very low quality crude and very difficult to refine. So very, very costly to get that up and running. And they're trying to create more of a more of a demand for that

market to justify, I guess, as you said, the markets to try to massage the markets a little bit. India seems to have been very polite. But after Modi left and returned back to India, the Indian foreign ministry said, well, we're not going to, we're not going to be told who to buy from as well. So implying that they're not going to stop getting their discounted Russian oil while at the same time trying to keep a good relation. So you've got these different efforts. And I don't know if there's like a method to that or if this is really what it appears to be a degree of incompetence and lack of foresight in terms of. doing things in the Middle East that are resulting in some hectic maneuvers. But what are your thoughts on this call to this request upon China?

Well, you know, I've been very skeptical of this whole situation. You know, I've just been kind of like in a wait and see mode because obviously I was blindsided by the start of the Iran War. And so it's been kind of like, all right, let's wait and see what is actually happening here because we've seen patterns play out with other quote unquote conflicts. Venezuela being, you know, top of mind. And that clearly was not what it appeared to be because the Maduro regime remains completely intact. And now Trump, you know, he normalized relations with Venezuela, I believe over the weekend, maybe on Friday.

That's like official now. We've officially normalized all relations with Venezuela. So like all sanctions lifted everything back to normal. And he's called them, you know, our greatest ally now. and which is just, it's very funny because one of the big issues, in my opinion, that the political hegemony of, you know, the Uniparty in America and the West in general had with Venezuela was the fact that Hugo Chavez was so ardently anti-Zionists, ardently anti-Israel and very pro-Palestine. I think that was one of the biggest reasons that Venezuela was vilified.

That and, of course, like his, you know, his relationship. if you want to call it that with the oil company, with the oil industry and how he basically kick the oil industry out of Venezuela. Although upon deeper digging, I learned that he actually offered most of everybody a seemingly fair deal to get out. He was in a, he was in a either renegotiate our contracts or we will pay you what we owe you. We will buy you out and you can go our separate ways. And I think 22 companies took that. So anyway, point is, is that Delci Rodriguez was part of Chigo Chavez's original regime. Obviously, obviously vice president under Maduro.

She was an oil, oil executive, actually, under Hugo Chavez. And she maintains the same anti-Zionist views as Hugo Chavez and Maduro. So the fact that we've normalized with this government, despite, and like that rhetoric hasn't changed, I don't think that position has changed. They're not out there thumping their chest the way they were, you know, the way Maduro has been for the past year or so. But the fact that that all played out the way it did, again, it's incongrual. with all the other rhetoric that we're seeing

revolving around Israel and the Trump administration with the other, you know, with specifically Iran. So then to go straight from Venezuela to Iran was strange. Like, okay, well, so we just basically made peace normalized with an anti-Israel government, didn't really make any demands of them other than just Maduro had to go. And now we're working with them. So now we're shifting to Iran.

The, you know, the two real big oil producers in the world, by the way, Venezuela and Iran. And both of them have been hamstrung in terms of their output because of sanctions that have been imposed on them and economic, external economic forces that have been imposed on them over the past 20 years. My understanding is that Iran has an additional like seven million barrels of oil it could be producing. I think it's, I think it's a day. I'm not mistaken. And right now it's only producing three. and all of that is because of the sanctions that the U.S. and the West have put on Iran because of Israel. So unlocking that, like unlocking that industry, that oil industry, I think that's part of what's going on here.

But given what the way that things have unfolded with Venezuela, that has given me some hope that we're going to see something unfold in a way that is not the way Fox News wants to see it unfold. And I happen to be picking up my kids from my mom's house on Monday when this was when like this whole thing happened when Trump came out and said this and she passed Fox News on in the background all the time and the people on Fox News were apoplectic at what Trump said.

They were screaming and it was like the comedy show it was like Greg Dutfeld. They're supposed to be funny. And they were like screaming at the camera. What is Trump think he's doing, leaving these religious crazies in charge in Iran? We got to take all. all those people out. So he's upset the right people. Like, whenever I see those people upset, I know that we're doing the right thing because I like to see the regime characters screaming

at the camera and very upset. I think the thing that really bothered me the most with the Iran situation is seeing them so happy, like fat cats, right? So now, that's a long-winded answer. I didn't even address your question. The China, Russia, India thing is really interesting. I don't, again, I don't quite understand the dynamic, like, what is the desired outcome? But to your point, India a month ago, February, early February, February 2nd, I think it was, Trump made an offer to India. He said, hey, if you stopped buying the sanctioned oil from Russia, the discounted oil, which has benefited you significantly, India. I will lower tariffs 18% against India. And if I recall correctly, I think India, if they didn't take that offer, they definitely negotiated something with Trump because I remember there being a happy outcome.

The tariffs were lowered from like, I don't know, 50% or something down to 18. Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think 18% I think is I think is what the number ones. So, so then fast forward a month. And now because of the strain on those straight of Hormuz, Scott Bessett and Trump offer to lift the sanctions for India and say, hey, India, like you can now buy Russian oil. we won't bother you about it.

And I think they gave him like a three-day exemption, whatever, whatever it was. And then Scott Besson turned around and said, you know what? I think we're going to go ahead and maybe lift all the other sanctions against Russia and let other people buy Russian oil because if we don't, obviously, the global economy is going to be strained significantly. And then Trump had his phone call with Putin after Scott Besson, I think alluded to that. So again, all these events seem to be connected. So I miss that.

It's a little goofy. At last point, it's really goofy that they're like going to China now. They're like, hey, China, stop buying from Russia, and buy from us, please. It's weird. Like, weird, but I don't know. It almost feels like a wrestling soap opera, the way these, like, the rhetoric, the public statements happen, right? Yeah, it's, it does feel like that a little bit. And if it wasn't for all of the death, I would be like more inclined to take this, you know, a little bit more of a lighthearted way.

But it's just, like I just spoke to Vanessa Bealey. My friend, she's a journalist who's been living, she lived in Syria for like five years and then had to leave when ISIS took over. And now she's in Lebanon. And so we did a little interview a few days ago just so I could like ask her, like, what are you seeing from the ground in Lebanon? And it's pretty bad. I mean, I think the recent death count is something like 700 Lebanese civilians or so have been killed. And on top of that, Israel is working, has a deal with Jolani, the former head of ISIS in Syria, who's now the president. president to allow for Israeli troops to enter into Lebanon from Syria.

They share a long border. Is that right? Yeah, she actually shared this image here. I think it's this one here. So this features four entry points in Syria where Israeli troops have entered to carry out special operations. It's very opaque as far as what those are. I know that the invasion that happened from the south.

and there's still, you know, notifications to people living in south of Lebanon to evacuate, says from the Israeli side saying, like, fire is going to come down from the sky if you don't evacuate. So, you know, what you choose not to do is, is on you. So she knows many people. She's in the middle area of Lebanon, not in the south, but she knows many people who have pulled up and, you know, there's a lot of arteries in highways that are totally packed of people trying to, like, leave because we don't know what's going to happen next, but we know that

certain attacks have been waged. There does seem to be a building up for something bigger by the greater Israel fanatics. Yes. You know, there is this giddiness, this disturbing giddiness amongst the Ben-Givirites out there who are, it seems there, they see this now as like, you know, they're not just seeing this as just another geopolitical oil maneuver like, like has been the case in many, many of the bad decisions made in the past, but they're really seen this now as fulfillment of prophecy. And I don't know, you've got that going on.

Then you also have like the legislation that had been passed in the Knesset last year or last July that authorizes Israel to annex the West Bank. Now, they haven't acted upon it. It doesn't mandate it, but it does give them somehow authorized. They gave them self-authorization legally, I guess, to go in and do that with a big chunk of Jordan, whenever they should so wish. And certain people think, well, now's the time for that, too. But definitely you've got that.

And then you've got the attack on the oil refineries, right? That's another one that's very disturbing is that I guess it was probably Israel. I'm not sure. I don't think the U.S. led in that one because this is an attack on Iranian civilians that's destroyed this giant oil refinery. Or is an oil refinery? No, it was 30 fuel depots. Fuel depots, right. Okay, that's significant.

in Iran. Yes. And actually the reporting is that, and that seems, this seems to be confirmed by the behavior of Lindsey Graham. I was talking about this on my show yesterday. The Israelis didn't coordinate with the Americans on that. And when the Americans found out about it, this is coming from an Israeli official who told Barack reviewed this and he put it in his article that he co-authored with Mark Caputo.

Both of them have contacts in the Trump White House and have proven that through their reporting. The Israeli official told Barack Rabid that the message they received from the White House was WTF, what the fuck, when they found out that they did this. Because these fuel depots, Israel alleges, serve the IRGC, but the Americans say that these are actually civilian fuel depots. And not only is this going to escalate sentiment among the Iranian people against Israel and America. But it's also obviously going to impact the global oil market, which is a concern for obviously Trump, Putin, and everybody. So that led to Lindsay Graham coming out and actually putting a post saying, you know, Israel, you need to be careful what you're targeting. Please be more judicious and your selection of targets. So even Lindsey Graham came out and like said, hey, y'all fucked up.

You all need to slow down and stop and stop doing things on your own. And then I think General Dan Kane, I just saw this morning put out, I think he was doing a press briefing either this morning or yesterday, where he basically said that there are two different objectives here. There's the Israeli agenda. Then there's the American agenda. And the Americans are working with the Israelis where their interests overlap. But Israel clearly has its own agenda. And they're pursuing their own agenda here. And so that's where I've landed now.

I think, and I've been reading about this and talking about this, the way that this looks to me, and if you go back last week when Trump was meeting with MERS, the German prime minister in the White House, and he was asked specifically about the comment that Mark Ruebio made that Israel forced us into this war. And then Trump said, well, maybe I've, you know, maybe I forced Israel into this war. You never know. now all the sudden Israel is getting pulverized. I mean, that's my understanding is that Israel is just getting rocked right now. I don't know if you've seen the clips from BBC and there's some Argentinian news outlets and there's a Spanish news outlets as well that are reporting that missiles are now hitting Tel Aviv with no siren going off. There's no like alarm going off. There's no warning. The missiles are just coming in now. All Israelis have received a text message. from the Iranian government that says we have just targeted and taken out the final U.S. radar tower in the region. There are no more radar towers to detect our missiles. We are going to continue firing missiles. Leave this land now. Your government cannot protect you. There is no sheltering in place. And then he signed at the IRGC. And that seems to be confirmed by like BBC reports, live shots of guys sitting there in front of Tel Aviv with the missiles coming down and there's no alarm in the background. I played a clip from an Argentinian outlet where a guy was in, the reporter was in the shelter. There was an Israeli army officer in there giving an interview to other news outlets where he was shocked. He was like there was no alarm. Why was there no alarm? Why are we not getting any alarms here?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, and now. The early warning systems have all been taken, or not all, but a big chunk of the most important early warning systems have been hit, including the Alting Eye and in Qatar. that has something like a 5,000 mile radius that's so necessary for Israel's Iron Dome to be even pseudo-functional. You've got to have this whole array of U.S. early warning systems that have all been, there's like eight of them that have been eliminated. So they have maybe, I don't know what the percentage is from what they would have been at full capacity, but it's really, really reduced.

This iron dome isn't really working out. Yeah. And it's important to note that the, I mean, again, this is just information that's out. Who knows how accurate anything is these days. But a Chinese ship is the one that is providing all the intel. There's a Chinese ship in the Persian Gulf that's providing all of the targeting intel for Iran to take out these systems. And that ship has not been targeted by the U.S. Navy. It hasn't been, you know, like, and there's been no, like nobody's addressed this to the Pentagon.

Nobody's addressed the fact that this is the reporting is that China is basically providing all of the satellite imagery and the real-time. information on like what on targeting for for the Iranians. So and then now we also have reporting I wrote about this in the news brief this morning that Synccom is now cannibalizing PACCOMs, THAAD missile systems, missile systems. So now there's even videos and images of U.S. military dismantling their patriot systems in South Korea to ship them over to the Middle East. I saw that. Yeah, because they're running out, because they're running low on these interceptors in Israel. So my theory right now is that it seems to me that Israel's been begging for this fight for how many years? I mean, 50 years. They've been begging for this

fight with Iran. I mean, 40 years. Bibi Danyahu gave a press briefing or whatever, put out a statement where he said, I've been looking forward to this for 40 years. Holly Bennett said the same thing. 40 years I've been trying to get this, you know, we've been trying to get this war happen. And it finally has happened. Thank God. So they've been begging for this fight for 40 years. And now they got it.

And they don't seem prepared for it. They're up against a much stronger military. And it doesn't seem like the U.S. is even capable, is either unwilling or incapable to defend Israel from Iran. And now Trump is saying, like I have, I just pulled this from the time. from the time of Israel. And this kind of speaks to what General Kane said and what, you know, what happened with the Barack Reveed Mark Caputo reporting. Here's Trump.

This is one of the top stories on Times of Israel right now. Trump war to end soon. Practically nothing left the target. This is a Barack Reveed report that just Axios just published this a few minutes ago. And then Israel's response to that is there's no time limit. We're not anything this thing anytime soon. So I think what's about to happen, Matt, is I think we're going to see the U.S. step away and say, you know what, we're done.

Like, we've accomplished, like mission accomplished, right? Like we took out the Ayatollah, mission accomplished. We're walking away. Good luck. See you all later. And Israel's going to keep going. And I think the plan here, if there is one, you know, is to allow this thing to play out because the greater Israel project is not stopping.

There is no negotiating with religious zealids. who believe that God has given them this right to this land. You can't engage in diplomacy with that. You can't exercise political leverage. There's no stopping them except through kinetic force, right? So what's the apparatus that you use to stop them? I, for a long time, thought that it was going to be Russia that might step in and, you know, be the neutral party. But it looks like it might be Iran.

And Iran is, again, my understanding is that Tel Aviv is getting pulverized. And there was even siops out the other day that Netanyahu's brother had been killed, Ben Gavir had been killed, and David Barnay had been killed. Now, bin Gavir has put out a post saying, I'm still alive. Go F yourself is what he said. I am still alive. God, God be blessed. Go F yourself.

But, you know, there's just a lot. of interesting things that are happening here. And I think that this might be like the final, like Israel's final stand against, uh, against Iran. And the fact that Trump is pivoting towards an off ramp after saying last week, you know, I'm the one who actually kind of forced Israel into this. Like maybe I'm the one of actually forced him to do this. And now Israel is saying, all right, well, now that it's happening, now that we're going full tilt and we're in this, we're doing it. And then again, the way I analyze these situations is I always look at how are these leaders behaving? What is their rhetoric?

How are they responding in the storylines? Because who knows what's actually happening on the ground? Who knows what's real and what isn't? But when I see Lindsey Graham running around screaming that the Arabs need to jump in and fight and the Arabs are saying, no, thanks. We're not getting into fighting. The Israeli press or the Israeli government put out reporting the other day that said that the UAE and Saudi had launched missiles at Iran. And both the UAE and Saudi said, this is a lie.

We have not fired any missiles at Iran. We have no plants fired missiles at Iran and we are not getting involved. So they're clearly, and they're clearly siops. Yeah, NBS. B.S. Shut down Lindsay Graham. I know very recently saying, know your place when Graham was making claims about what Iran has been doing to Saudi Arabia as far as launching attacks and terrorist acts. And that was that was good. also that they didn't fall into the trap where Aramco got attacked and evidence just pointed to the fact that that was not Iran. Why would Iran do that? Out of destabilization that would cause internationally, including to their own allies that they vitally need to be in a stable position amongst the bricks would be irreparable. So, or not irreparable, but at least terrible.

So the fact that both Iran said that they didn't do it. And then Saudi Arabia also said clearly, we don't think Iran did. that only leaves one culpable hand behind that kind of operation too, which would be Israel. So that's good that people are keeping their heads on their shoulders. And if the, as you say, if the case does unfold whereby the U.S. is extricates itself from that region, that would put Israel in a bit of a bind, in a bit of a pickle, so to speak. and that might accelerate the the the sampson option that that if they if they feel like they're in a corner with no hope and they feel existentially threatened the samson option might be

might be pulled um that for those who don't know that's basically to kill everybody use your entire all your nuclear warheads to basically commit suicide but take down everybody around you including your allies while you're doing it yep um as the the good old story in the bible showcased so but they didn't have nuclear weapons back then um the philistines yeah tore it out sampson tore down the temple and killed and took them all down yeah and that would imply possibly a solution to some of the problems in a weird way but also a lot of tens and hundreds of millions i would say would probably also have to die amongst the arab nations i can't imagine that they would be very happy about that outcome too um so there's it's it's troubling it's

It's troubling, but these are the dynamics in play as they are. Like, we're not, we're just trying to, like, look at and analyze the data as it is. On that note, actually, one thing that's a little bit, causes a bit of discomfort. You know, I brought up the Modi thing. Modi was in Israel, right? A day before the war began. And, yeah, did you, did you follow what he was saying or what was arranged between? I didn't listen.

I didn't listen. I mean, he addressed the Knesset. I didn't listen to his speech, but I mean, my takeaway from the, from like the reporting on it was basically that Israel was like aligning itself with India and basically trying to make India like its preferred partner, almost like it's pivoting away from the U.S. or at least trying to create a similar relationship that it has with the U.S. with India. That's what it seemed like. I mean, I mean, Modi, I caught some of the clips. Like Modi was saying, you know, India is Israel. Israel is India. I mean, he was saying some crazy stuff about like, like, like, like, like, like, I can't.

ethnic, like a shared ethnic heritage or something. It was crazy. It was weird. Yes, it was. It really was weird. And it's a bit, it caused me to sort of think a little bit more about, like, what, because I, there's something about Modi that I genuinely like. Then there's something about Hindu nationalists and something within the BJP party that gives me the he be, Gbies to say the least. And people have seen the many, like, Hindu nationalists with Israeli flags in in India, which seems to have this, there seems to be this narrative that's been baked in amongst a faction, an important, powerful faction within India, within their elites, that somehow Israel came out of India, that there's this weird, historic, millennial

connection between these two peoples, and that the destiny, the eschatology of Israel is tied to the eschatology of India and some weird kali yuga sort of scenario now one thing that that Modi accelerated when he got in there was the thing that you and I talked about which is this beautiful temple it's this Hindu temple to Ram a mythic pseudo mythic character probably based on a real person in deep history and turned into a bit of a you know myth mythologized figure that was born in a certain area in northern India now this this Hindu temple that was an I think in 2024. I remember this, yeah.

Yeah, you showed a video. And again, it's a beautiful temple. Beautiful. Yeah. I mean, it's amazing the craftsmanship that they put into this. Yeah. But then as you scratch on the surface of that story a little bit, it has a lot of overlap with the Al-Akska Mosque Solomon Temple problem, where for, you know,

centuries and centuries, there's been this dispute about this particular area that today hosts and has since like 690 AD has hosted one of the most holy sites of the Islamic world, the Al-Akska mosque, built up during the Abbasid dynasty, overseen by weird Sufi builders that advised the new government in Baghdad, which had a huge influence. I mean, that was, the Abbasid dynasty was big. They just had kicked out the Umayads that went to Spain a little bit earlier. And these strange Sufi builders, as the story goes, advised them where the location should be for this shrine, this mosque that became the Al-Akska mosque, which happened to be this site that the Jews also really took very seriously because that was also the holiest site for the Jews where the Solomon Temple was supposedly also built, supposedly. Now, in the case here with this Hindu temple, as from the Guardian article that I'm showing here, Modi inaugurial,

It's Hindu temple on site of raised mosque in India. This mosque in India was torn down by riots in 1992, and it had been there since the 15th century, or early 16th century, but I think the late 15th century, and it was in honor of the first Mughal, sort of Muslim emperor, but also was seen as a highly holy, like a super holy shrine for the Indian Muslims. So when these riots by Hindu nationalists were sparked, which tore down this thing and killed like 2,000 civilians, mostly Muslims living in that region.

The worst thing you would want to do once it's torn down is to then build a shrine right on top of it. Like if you want to create inter-civilizational anger, that's what you do. So that was something Modi also chose to make a high priority and they finally inaugurated and opened it up. A lot of Muslims right now are really unhappy about that. So for him to then go to India to Israel and then I listened to the speech that he gave and it was nuts. He was the first Indian prime minister in history to go to Israel. Is that right? Yeah.

Because he went there in 2014 when he first became prime minister, but that was the first time ever. And then he went back a couple of times since. But before that, Israel was firmly like amongst the non-aligned movement during the Cold War. They were not pulling into side. They were always like anti-colonial. at the very foundation of Israel in 1948, India protested saying they do not support the creation of this ethno-national estate. So that whole tradition was really broken with Modi, who's got this completely different paradigm. So most recently when he showed up there on February 22nd, or 27th, he gave the speech where he basically calls for the vision of this thing here,

the India Middle East economic corridor saying this is the future of India and Israel, which basically passed through the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel. It's an alternative to the Belt and Road Initiative, you know. Of course. In the north-south transportation corridor. As well, yeah. And both of those two corridors are vital for the multiple-er lines. And they also need Iran to be in a good place.

If Iran's, for whatever reason, lit on fire. those two corridors that China and Russia want so desperately are going to be annihilated. And then this thing, which I always thought was a bit, it was first announced under Biden in 2023 this thing, this corridor here. And it really didn't seem to have much behind it.

It was just an idea on a blackboard. But it seems like maybe that is a factor in driving certain bad decision makers or bad decisions being made by fools forward. And the other thing he brought up

in his speech was this i2 u2 military alliance with india and israel kind of like a quad right it's like a nato like quad uh defensive uh system in the middle east oh there you go you you already had it up yeah yeah yeah i was about to pull this up but but but finish your thought please oh yeah yeah so i've heard a lot of people who are well-intended mega people telling me that iran is nato iran is the The city of London and Iran is NATO and that's why it's good that we're bombing NATO in the city of London, which is Iran in their weird hypnotic. It's the Promethean people are pushing that and everybody keeps sending me these like clips and articles and they come, they show up in my chat and they like post the stuff

in my and it's crazy like they're really pushing this Promethean stuff where they're all claiming that this is the city of London. I used to work with these guys. I used to work with Barbara Boyd and Susan Kinnett for many years. I departed back in 2017, 2016, due to certain toxicity reasons. But they overall were historically anti-war and were the ones originally exposing the lies about Iran's weapons and mass destruction program that never existed. They legitimately got rid of that in 2003.

There's no evidence. There's think tanks that repeat unproven statements that become sold to us as if it was fact that Iran has this secret nuclear weapons program, but that even comes from MI6. And these people back 10 years ago, 15 years ago, were the ones proving that. So there is evidence, like they know what they're saying is not true, but the fact that they're still saying, it causes me to ask some questions here about what's the motive, because the real city of London and NATO in the Middle East, it's not Iran. Iran's been punished and sanctioned like crazy because they've been resisting the city of London pressure to get a private central bank to

get their economy to the global markets and other things. It's Israel that was, that's, if you want the city of London British Empire in the Middle East, you've got to look at who created the British Israel out of the British mandate Palestine. And it's, that's the British, that's it. And the NATO structure, it's what you've shown right there on the Jerusalem Post. It's, that's what it is. It's partially Turkey, but even they're trying to break free and have. a bit more sovereign independence.

And it's this thing where you literally have Modi's people and Benjamin and Nanyahu's people talking about also inviting in friendly Arab Gulf states and friendly African states into this new security pact. That would look a lot more like a Middle Eastern NATO. Even the Jordanian king had even floated this idea a few years ago, which was luckily not accepted back then. Yeah, pull that map up again, because what you see is noticeably missing from this, from this trade route, Iran and Russia, right? Oh, yeah.

Bondar Abbas, which is like that dot at the UAE, like that second stop heading from India to the UAE for that very first stop, right across the water like Strait of Hormuz, you have this port Bandara Abbas, which I know you're familiar with, billions of dollars poured into Bondara Basse over the past few years. to build that out. And the Saudis even invested significant money in Bondar Abbas. And then I remember it was a big, it was a big story when Saudi received their first shipment of freight through Bondar Abbas from Iran because it represented this normalization or pivot toward normalization between Iran and Saudi Arabia. And so, yeah, and again, like the Promethean people, they were also pushing with the Maduro stuff that Maduro was an MI6 agent. He was working for City of London and he was like a city of London. And it's like that is completely inconsistent with the history of Hugo Chavez and Nicholas

Maduro. Like if you actually understand what they were about and who they were opposing, you know, they were opposing George Bush Sr. and his friends in the oil industry. Like that's literally who Hugo Chavez was fighting in the 90s and who threw him in prison when he tried to overthrow the government through a military coup in 1991. So it's pretty silly to make those assertions that that Nicholas Maduro was an M.I. my six-age asset working on behalf of the city of London. Clearly, like, they wouldn't be sanctioning Venezuela. Venezuela, also another country that doesn't have a private central bank that isn't part of

the Rothschild central banking network. And clearly that organization has pumped a lot of money into their marketing because we've been talked like privately in the balance chat. We've all been asking one another. Are you seeing that like all over my feet? Like they're all over my feet. even though I don't follow any of them. So they're getting like inorganically boosted and spending money to get more inorganically boosted. And that raises suspicion in my head. I'm just like, what, like, what is this?

And when their assertions are so just like off the wall, like that's kind of crazy. But anyway, I don't really. Yeah. Yeah. No, I hear you. I mean, part of the stuff, it is, it gains traction because it uses a lot of truth because that, you know,

you it is one of the things that i've noticed is that they'll never nobody will ever who because it's not just them because it's also many other influencers have adopted that narrative because it's so satisfying it seems to be very satisfying at explaining a lot of why we seem to be doing the opposite of what maga was was set up to do which was to stop the wars and now all of a sudden that's happening so it's very very dissonant for people and they want some satisfying explanation and that seems to to meet a lot of those standards of like checking off the box of okay it's not ironsonement It is the city of London. We're bombing.

So it's not Venezuela. It's actually a city of London. It's, it helps to sort of clear the conscience for people, which they desperately want, because nobody wants to be the bad guy in the movie. Nobody wants that. So the thing that is, I think,

what I've noticed in listening to Kukinda and Boyd and others who repeat this line or who really advance it, is that it acknowledges the role of, the city of London and the CIA in 1979 in overthrowing the Shah, which is true. That is true things that are stated. The Shah back then for all of his problems, he at the very least did want to follow the Japanese model of industrialization. He didn't want to take the oil revenues, the profits from the oil shocks of the early 70s because oil jacked up in price,

so the OPEC nations benefited a lot. He got in a, in a, in a, his head that he could use that massive amount of profit to reinvest in an industrial program, including with a focus on nuclear power for Iran for the future, because oil is still very volatile. It's still not, it's still not something you want to be on forever. Nuclear power is where it's at. So he tried to, he got to deal with the French, with the Germans to go and help him build these reactors.

That was foreboughton. So he had to be eliminated. He also, you know, he put a, hmm? Well, he also. refused to sign the 25 year or to renew the 25 year consortium agreement of 1954, which expired in 1979. And that the consortium agreement is what officially gave the oil back to British petroleum after Mogadish took it away and nationalized it.

So when he, when he said, no, I'm actually not going to renew this consortium agreement. That's when that's, that was the incentive for the MI6 and CIA to say, okay, you know what? You got to go now. Like, you're not, you're not going to like renew this agreement. That was literally the whole reason we had. installed you was to get this agreements on the books and to get our oil back. And for those who are confused by this, it's like, again, yes, I mean, you are the one who educated me so much on the city of London, I mean, Warhamster as well, and the role that they have played. But we're kind

of ignoring the fact that Israel was literally created by the city of London, that the city of London and the banker class from London are the ones who created Israel. They're literally the ones who work with Hitler to move all like millions of Jews from Europe to Palestine in the 1930s. Like this happened. So again, like if we're going to assign like the city of London to one side in this conflict, they're clearly on the side of Israel. Like that is. Well, yeah.

And it's like contextual to decontextualize history is so bad. And I mean, because while we acknowledge the city of London and British intelligence role and Israeli intelligence and the CIA in doing that regime change in 79, did the, did the new guys, the Ayatollah, who is a highly compromised character from who is, you know, working in France and reinstated there, the first Ayatollah Khomeini, when they installed him, did they get what they wanted? I mean, no, did he still nationalized British Petroleum. He still did that. He didn't renew the consortium agreement. He didn't like undo the ending of the of the Savak, which is what, the Shah had done is he finally canceled the Savak,

the secret police that were co-created with the Mossad, both created and trained by Nazi killers. I was literally about to say it. I was like, wait a minute, who created the Mossad again? Like who created and trained the Mossad? Oh, yeah, MI6, right? Am I six, the CIA Nazis who were brought in to train them in all of the dark arts of the Nazi intelligence apparatus

and paramilitary groups. They were all brought in Autoskort Sani and others. were brought in to Iran into Israel to train. That's even admitted by Israel times. Yeah, like we had Nazis training us in the 60s. I don't know why that was happening. I can tell you. So that all of that was taken down.

It wasn't reconstituted by the IATO. The major Muslim Brotherhood adjacent, I guess you can say, Salafist groups that were used to do the most radical destabilizations on behalf of Western intelligence in Iran in the 60s and in the 70s leading up to the to the revolution was the mujahadine I calc that was set up in 1967 or 66 as like this hard it was like it's a religious cult it sounds and looks a lot like the Muslim Brotherhood even though they don't they say that they're not it seems like it is it's a very Jesuitical thing inside of the Muslim world that was used um as this this you know incendiary movement which did make it the

revolution of 79 possible. They were the ones that Britain wanted to be the dominant, like, players controlling Iran. Did they? Because they got sanctuary in England. They got sanctuary in the US, even though they were like labeled domestic terror, uh, international terrorists for, for decades. They still got protection once Iran immediately expelled them in 1980. And they were no longer allowed to have a seat in Iran. They couldn't have a seat at table. They went into Iraq, right? They played a role in the Iraq-Iran war. That was actually a fact. is that this massive paramilitary secret army apparatus of fundamentalists were expelled from Iran and then set up shop in Iraq, promoted and given support by Donald Rumsfeld, who was doing

military deals with Saddam Hussein in the early 80s, militarizing, weaponizing these groups in order to prepare for a new war to get Iraq and Iran, who had everything to gain by working together to just slaughter each other, which they stupidly did for many years. Yep. But Iran then stops the- Rumsfeld sold Saddam Hussein our chemical weapons from World War I. Yeah. Which was against the law because we signed a treaty in 1975 saying that nobody could

transfer or sell chemical weapons to anybody. And then five years later, Donald Rumsfeld sold Saddam all of our old chemical weapons. And then 21 years later, that was the excuse to go into Iran. Hey, we know he's got chemical weapons. Did you hear? He has chemical weapons. Oh, how did you get those chemical weapons? Oh, the Americans sold it sold it to him. Donald Rumssel sold it to him.

I mean, what the fuck, man? What the fuck? And then that became a perfect excuse later on for us to go on for Desert Storm to, or to, well, both Desert Storm because, yeah, Saddam Hussein's bad. So we had to do that. We even though Madeline Albright admitted that our war in Iraq, including the sanctions, involved the killing of upwards of, 500,000 children and she said that was money worth spent. It was worth it in this disgusting 1999. I think it was a 60 minutes interview when she was asked like,

is it worth it having 500,000 dead children on your hands? And she said, yes, it was worth it. That was like Lindsey Graham rhetoric. Totally on that level. Yeah, except she was on the Democrat. And Democratic flavor the exact same thing. It's the same unit party. And then they did it again for bombing Iraq in 2003 with Shockinaw,

part two. So it, but they did it. They're the ones that, that's the reason why Saddam Hussein had the weapons of mass destruction, the chemical weapons to begin with. So you got this whole thing where Iran has been trying to fight back against this thing. They've avoided, they, they, they, along with China and Venezuela, they're, and North Korea, they're amongst the, the few countries in the world that have rejected a private central bank, which is what the city of London wants everybody to have. Syria, Libya. I mean, basically just go through the list of all the places that have been villainized and that have seen war delivered to their doorstep. And you can basically deduce that they have rejected a private centralized bank and the

Western banking system established by the Rothschilds. Yes, exactly. It's not a coincidence. So, again, like, people need to really arm themselves against these very seductive narratives and tropes that we want to believe is true. But it's provably, it's so ridden. with fallacies of comp. Oh, the last thing I'll just say on this note, too, is that in Iran, there was, I mentioned this last, our last show, but under Rafsanjani, the president from

1989 to 97 and then Ruhat, not Rihana, president Kamenei in from 97 to 2004, there was a consistent purging of both the most radical rigid Salafists who wanted to, you know, go back to the kind of neurotic taliban kind of reading of the Quran and and and and and shari Allah they want they wanted that kind of like you know women should not have even an inch of skin shown or else it's like sin and they shouldn't be a lot you know be permitted to get an education. It's a wrong. Yeah, exactly. These characters were there but there was there's a battle that took place to remove them from policy, isolate them and then introduce.

a much more liberal, and I say liberal in the best sense of the word, like view of encouraging women to take part in society, to get an education, to go back to university, to be integrated, to have a foreign policy as well centered around what Katami called the Dialogue of Civilizations program, which would be to look outward, to have faith that other cultures have something beautiful within them that you can work with and speak to, which is why he went to Rome. He went to Florence, Katemi, and gave these wonderful speeches calling for a new Silk Road. He went to China in 1998, calling for again the revival of the Silk Road as the new spirit of cooperation to get over this neocon-Hobbsian agenda that had been, you know, showing its face in a bad way over the dead body of its acrobin and demonstrating that it was going to go into overdrive in the late 90s, which it did. That was also when Fox News was created.

1997 is when Fox News was a, that was when they launched was 1997. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And so they, they, of course, contributed to that whole sciop of, you know, against the Middle East. And, you know, what's interesting, I do want to get back to Israel here, but. Yeah. But real quick, like this bombing of the schoolchildren, of the schoolgirls, 175 little girls killed, terrible.

The White House and Pentagon has acknowledged it happened. It's not like a, you know, um, uh, war propaganda. But as Trump said, he said, whatever the report says, like, we're investigating, whatever the report says, I'll accept. So let's just wait and see what the report says. I'll accept it. So we'll wait to see that. But what I thought was interesting, I mean, I say this tongue in cheek, but, you know, it's terrible tragedy. My entire life, I'm 37, my entire life, I've been told that women are not allowed to go to school in Iran. And that's one of the reasons that we need to topple their government and give them like a liberal democracy is because

the way they treat women. And here we have, my understanding is that this school was on like a Navy base and it was the daughters of the IRGC officers, right? Meaning the most, meaning like theoretically the most radicalized religious leaders in the Iranian society were sending their girls to school to be educated. And nobody's talking about the fact that Fox News for the past 30 years has told us that women are not allowed to go to school in Iran. So which one is it, guys?

like that is hilarious man that i it the irony didn't sink in until i just heard you use those very basic words it's true like we're all freaking out that iran doesn't allow women to get educated that's why they're bad and regressive and yet they all a girl's school was also bombed and people don't place the the paradox together in their minds the way you just did that's that's a very good point. And also, I didn't know that it was the IRGC. Like, that was a direct that's, well, that, I mean, that's what I've seen. The analysis I've seen. I mean, who knows? Like, again, like, like, like, let's see what this report is. But the explanation that I've seen is that this, this school was on a Navy base. The Navy base was targeted. And so it could have just,

you know, it's a collateral damage thing. Yeah, I know. Iran has like so many scientists, engineers as women. It is, is wild. Like, whenever I'm invited on to press TV to speak as a commentator, the like 60% of the time, the person who is the host of the TV show that's talking to me is a woman. It's like, this is, yeah, sure, she's like decked out. She's decked out in the headscarf and all that. Sure, fine. Okay. But they're not, they're giving a lot of opportunities to women that run and operate the narratives. In congruent with the narrative that we're being told by our government. And I think that not enough people are asking that question. Wait a minute, wait a minute. So have we been lied to then? Of course have been lied to them. They've literally

every aspect of our reality. If you're not Muslim, they'll kill you. You will be destroyed and persecuted if you're in Iran. And it's like, well, but what about the 380,000 Christians living in Iran? What about every province of Iran has churches? Yeah, there's more Christians living in Iran than there are in Israel. It's like, like, what are we talking about here? Yeah, Iran's actually protecting their heritage sites and sacred sites and churches.

And Israel is bombing them. There are Jewish legislatures that serve in the Iran government. Yeah. Like, there are Jewish politicians who served in, like, when I, I learned that like a year, like a year or two ago. When I learned that, I was like, okay, we're clearly not getting the full story here in America. But yeah, so again, like, that is something that I like to see press a little farther because these revisionists, they love to go back in revised history and act like they haven't told us this stuff for the past 30 years. Just like they told us 25 years ago that these people all want to kill us because we love Jesus. I've now learned that they also love Jesus too. So that was a lie. These are the these are the

contradictions that I look for. And I'm like, wait a minute. Like I actually don't really have a problem with these people in the Middle East. I have a huge problem with you over here who have lied to me about some of the most important analysis out there saying that we have to go destroy civilizations, kill millions of people because they hate Jesus and we love Jesus. That's literally what I was told 25 years ago as a kid. And I've been told that many, many times since then. And now all of a sudden we're going to gloss over that history and we're going to act like that didn't happen. I have friends who served in the military. You said the military told them that. I mean, you had Peg Seth talking about how this is like a religious war and like, and like we're going to war for Jesus.

And it's like, well, wait a minute. But these people love Jesus too. Whatever, whatever significance, Jesus is in Islam, that's not my religion. So I don't need to defend it or whatever. But they've been. don't hate Jesus at all. No, I'm actually, I'm going to show an image here from, here, share a screen. This is, this is right after the French Olympics. July 2024, Iran protests offensive Jesus depiction at Paris Olympics. Yes. Summons French ambassador.

Yes. Yes. Oh, they don't have the picture because Iran actually commissioned these massive banners. Yeah. Yeah. Around their highway systems showcasing the last. in the Last Supper with a clear message, yeah, clear message saying that Jesus is a sacred person that we should honor and not defaced like they did be Satanist did in France during the Olympics.

Yeah, I believe there's also an airport in Aronap. I'm not mistaken, that is named after the Virgin Mary. No, that's a, that's a one of them, it's a beautiful subway system. Subway station. Yeah, it's like, it's beautiful. I mean, it looks like a cathedral. I mean, it's like beautiful. Yeah, compared to like New York Subways, yeah, it's definitely pretty. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So here, just so people can see it, I just, I just pulled it up on Google. Like this is a subway station that's named after the Virgin Mary and look, it has like artwork and everything. I mean, like what the hell? You know? So clearly like we're just being lied to all the time and we should be angry at our abusers. Like, we should be angry at the people who have lied to us so they can enrich themselves, start wars, and kill people. And so again, my analysis of this situation kind of is consistent

with the pattern that I've seen of the entire Trump administration 2.0, which is, it appears to me that Trump has basically opened up the tent. He's allowed all these Zionists to come in. He's given them the stage. He's handed him the microphone. He's been like, all right, tell us all about your program and your agenda, and he's basically allowed them to expose themselves. Now, there could be good people in this administration. Like, I don't know. I don't trust anybody in our government at this point. Like, I think everybody in our government is suspect because of the things that have

happened over the past 10 years plus. But it's certainly notable that, like, Mike Huckabee was made the ambassador of Israel. I called that the day he said that. Back in November of 24, I said, this is some sort of an op because there's no way that he earnestly wanted Mike Huckabee to represent us in Israel. This has to be an exposure op. And then we saw the whole Tucker Carlson thing. But going back to India, Israel, like let's just wrap that up. This whole thing, you know, like Netanyahu said a few months ago, he wants to start his own defense industry in Israel.

He wants Israel to be autonomous. Like he wants to self-reliant when it comes to the military industrial complex. They, I don't think they're ever going to be able to, like, even given an infinite time scale, I don't think they're ever going to be able to be, like, producing every component. Basically, what is, as my understanding is, is that Israel excels in the really, really fine, like, they excel at making microchips. They excel at making the really small plastic components that go to, like, medical devices. that go like in the missiles at the very end.

But they don't have, I don't think they have an industrial base to produce like the raw materials that are necessary to manufacture like at the first stages of manufacturing, whether you're talking about the defense industry or the construction industry or whatever. They're not really set up for that. It doesn't seem. They certainly don't have, I don't think, the labor force to do that. So I think maybe part of this deal is about pivoting a way. from America and pivoting to India and getting India to be the workforce that's going to make

the early phases of these missile components and then, you know, then it can be shipped to Israel for the, for the more finite, you know, the more nuanced high tech stuff. But that's just speculation. That's what I think is part of what's happening here because even Laura Lumer was admitted like, yeah, we need to, we need to in the relationship, the military relationship, like the financial aid dependency between Israel and America, not because it's harmful to American politics or American interests, but because it creates a leverage point that can be exploited against Israel. We need to do this for the benefit of Israel.

Israel needs to cut off America in order so that it can't be exploited or leveraged by, like, our leaders, like Trump. So again, like the analogy, Matt that I've been using the past couple days is, And actually, I've used it way before this. But so the analogy that General Klaus used years ago, which I think is brilliant, is that geopolitics is like the playground where all the kids convened, right? And like if you've ever watched kids on a playground, like, you know, they kind of govern themselves, right? They kind of like organize and they do their own thing. And they're all very different. They're all very unique.

They all for personalities, right? And watching them kind of figure out how to get along with one another. it's an interesting dynamic to observe. That's so true that that is kind of what geopolitics is. It's the playground where all the kids meet. And the way I would describe Israel is they're like the little, they're like the small guy with the big brother who everyone's afraid of. And nobody's going to mess with that little kid because they don't want the big brother to come kick their ass.

And over the time, that has cultivated a hubris in this kid who now goes around and bullies everybody and picks fights. And I knew people like this. I have close friends who were like this when we were younger, who are big friends, the really big guys, whenever they were around, these other guys would run their mouths, right? Run their mouths, talk shit to people,

start fights, pick fights because they had the big guy standing behind them and no one was going to pick a, was going to throw a punch with this guy standing up behind him. It seems like the situation we're in now is that big brother has figured out, you know what? This kids turned into a little jacket. ass. And sometimes the best way for a bully to learn his place in the world is just to get punched in the face. Right. And that's all it takes. And once that happens, it immediately

instills a sense of humility. It's kind of a reality check. And that's how a bully basically gets put in his place is that he picks a fight with the wrong, he picks on the wrong person who turns around and cleans his clock. And then he thinks twice about the next time he's going to go pick on someone. And that's kind of what I think is happening here because to your point, Israel has started a war with Lebanon since the Iranian war started, like in the past whatever, 10 days, 11 days. They've started a war, like they restarted the war with Lebanon. I didn't know that they were going in, like in the north and central Lebanon. Like I thought they were just fighting in the south. But Hezbollah is now fighting Israel all over again. It's very clear that they are on this path for greater Israel. And I have a clip that I actually want. to play of um where is this yeah here it is of pierce morgan interviewing this woman daniel daniela weiss and this woman is very notable because um she was kind of like a big red pill for me like four years ago and really understanding what israel was that really about and the secret that is the greater israel project this woman um was a mayor of a township

in it's it's in the west bank but it's an Israeli township she was the mayor she was born and raised this place she was the mayor for 10 years so she's an Israeli politician she has enormous political clout a very large following um she famously was hosting um tours where people would pay money like Israelis would pay money and they would get on a boat and they would go along the coastline of Gaza and they basically would like drink champagne and uh with bullhorns and basically be like this land is ours get out. I mean, she is a monster. If you've ever seen interviews with her, she is a monster. She's been asked straight up on camera. Are you okay with killing Palestinian? She's like, yes, absolutely, they're terrorists. They deserve to die. So she's an absolute monster. So let's watch

this clip and then we can kind of discuss the reality of what this represents. Wait, I'm sorry. I'm not sharing my screen. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. Let me restart this. You say the Palestinians don't exist. I didn't get your comment. Your position is that the Palestinians don't exist. So what are they? It's an invention.

It's an invention that is secondary to the important fact that the Jewish nation, that the land of Israel belongs only to one nation. And this is the Jewish nation. The Palestinians are Arabs who try to put. compete with the big success of the Jews in the land of Israel. And actually, the word Palestine was used by Adrian, the Roman emperor. But the modern Palestinians are Arabs who want the same place that the Jews made a paradise of. They want to take it from us.

But actually, actually what's happening is you want to take their land, isn't it? Okay, so you make your position, I make mine, mine, and the world will judge. And I mean, you know, it's interesting that when there are historical facts that can be proven, and then you still, you cling to what? I really don't understand what history you're representing. Does anybody doubt? Well, just taking your word, well, Ms. Weiss, taking your argument with logical extension, then you believe that Israelis and Jewish people should be entitled to all of the West Bank and all of Gaza.

If it's your land, as you say... Not just all of the West Bank. It's not bank. Bank is a narrow place. It's the major part of the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. So you would like, just to be clear, just to be clear, you would like all of the land between, from the river to the sea, to be Israeli Jewish, yeah? I want all the land from the Ephritus to deny. What do you mean?

Why hide the history? I'm curious what you intend to do with all the Palestinians who currently live there. You see, I have, I trust, in God I trust. And I live by faith, by a munah and by the Bible. What are you going to do with all the millions of Palestinians? I'm telling you what Joshua, what? Joshua, the first settlers, he gave me the... I don't need a history lesson.

I'm just asking you, what do you intend to do with the millions of people who currently live in California? Have you ever heard of Amalek? What are you going to do with him? Exactly what's... He had... When Joshua came with us from Egypt, he had to cope with seven peoples who lived here. Why God chose to bring us from Egypt to such a complicated place and not to

Canada, I don't know. The fact of the matter is that Joshua said, those who accept our sovereignty, our government will stay. Those who fight, will fight them. And those who do not accept our sovereignty, our government, they will go to other places. There is a clear formula. So I do not have to...

Well, there is a clear formula. It's actually... But again, to be clear, your clear formula, there's a legal term for it. It's called ethnic cleansing. What you're saying is if Palestinian people do not subscribe to the fact they should be ruled by Israel and have you as their sovereign state, then they have to leave. Right. So six, seven million Palestinians would have to leave and go and live elsewhere.

That's your position. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For the record, what Joshua did is they raised cities to the ground. They killed every man, woman and child. They even would kill the livestock. That was their practice.

Even the livestock were unworthy because they were dirty. They were, they were. Well, you know, Vanessa Bailey in my interview with her, I do this show called Beyond Geopolitics every once in a while. And she was telling me, give me concrete examples of the spring of glyphosates and things onto agricultural regions. So by Israel, since the peace, since the peace treaty, the ceasefire was declared between Israel and Hezbollah. They continued. Israel, it's a daily thing of asymmetrical and sometimes direct outright attacks. on the agricultural systems of Lebanon to diminish an already handicapped nation from having an economy and being able to support itself.

They're constantly going to war on the food systems. So, yeah, this woman is something else. What a piece of work that woman is. Yeah, and I've seen an interviewer, she said much worse than that, where she's straight up been confronted about like two-year-old Palestinians being killed. And she's like, yeah, who cares? Like, of course they deserve to die. like I said, but the thing that I do appreciate about her, I think she's repugnant. I think she's repulsive.

I think she's like just, it changes my skin crawl. But I respect the fact that she's honest about what her view is. Like she doesn't, I mean, she started to kind of like get into, you know, started to speak in platitudes towards the end when he was kind of trying to box her in to tell it like, what are you going to do with all these people that are in this land that you want? and that tends to be the kind of the position here but when you look at like the way that the Zionists tend to operate in America because we're a Christian nation they know that they can't come out and say this stuff so they lie they lie about what their true intention is they come

out and they say oh this is actually just about making sure that the Jewish people have a nice little corner of the world to themselves like they don't they won't tell you the truth this is about empire building this is about conquest this is kill everyone everybody in the land, you know, Amaluk is the is the, is the, uh, uh, analogy that Netanyahu always uses. And that's again, kill all the women, children, um, livestock. Um, you know, so we're at a point now. The point is, Matt, is that we're at a point now where this is ubiquitous. This is up a surface. This is no longer crypto history is no longer crypto politics. This is no longer, like, confined to the corners of the internet, you know, small podcast.

like this one. This is now out in the open. This is now Tucker Carlson talking about this with his millions of followers. Pierce Morgan talking about this with his merit. Like this is mainstream political discourse now. There is no hiding from this fact that this is what these people are. And I'm a little grateful that the people, that the ones in Israel are so, like they don't hide it. They don't mask it because, again, they're not a Christian nation. So they don't follow the same core principles that we do here in the West. I would. not consider Israel to be a Western nation. I don't think that because I think a Western nation is a nation that's founded on the Christian, on the Christian doctrine. But that's why they have to be

so deceptive, like Christian Zionists have to be so deceptive when they talk about this stuff in America and in Europe. And that's also why the general public is so ignorant as to what is actually happening here. If you just listen to what the leadership, these are, this is a political leader in Israel is saying you'll be like wait a minute how the hell could we possibly support this now somebody in the chat is somebody uh they're saying that in the chat they're saying my let me say yeah i saw somebody say that your mic wasn't great it sounds pretty okay to me i i don't you know what it is oh that's better whoa yeah uh it was the the mic on the camera the mic on the camera Yeah, yeah, new camera, and I didn't make, I didn't think about making it wasn't, it wasn't that bad.

Don't worry, but this is great. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. So, so just to finish the thought out, it's like somebody in the chat said this. I want to pull this up because I think this is a great point. And this is something that I wrestle with as I'm doing this analysis. And like, I'm like, man, this is Thomas, Thomas Maphic. It's an awful lot of death destruction and expense to expose all the psychopaths in the U.S. and Israel. And that is a fantastic point.

That is something that, like, I've considered so much in thinking about this. But, again, I don't think this plan, like what's happening right now. Like, I don't think that this is like Donald Trump and the White Hats being like, oh, like, let's start a war between Iran and Israel. This is something that has been in the works Donald Trump's entire life long before he, I mean, Netanyahu said, he has been personally lobbying for this for 40 years. Yeah. 40 years. So the, and I've been saying this for the past week, the momentum to do this is so much bigger than Donald Trump. This was a momentum. This was going to happen inevitably, whether it happened in 2026 or it happened in 2036. What is happening right now was always going to happen.

The first time I appeared on Badlands in June of 23, I said, I think they're going to start a war between Israel, Iran, because it was just obvious. Like, that's the obvious play here. Iran is the, is the big military power that threatens Israeli hegemony in the region. So starting a war between those two that would then suck in the rest of the world into a World War III situation is the logical play for people for dispensationalists who want to bring about the end of the world and they want to rule over the ashes. And so again, if you are an alliance of sovereign leaders, a sovereign Alliance who is trying to thwart this plan. This is just, again, this is just me speculating, a theory.

Facilitating this to some extent probably makes sense. I mean, there was no stopping it. Like, maybe you can convince them to hold off for a few more years, but then Donald Trump's gone, Putin's gone, Xi's gone, all those world leaders are gone, and there's nobody there to stop them. And then they just come out and then they get their way, right? So doing it in a more controlled setting where exposure can happen. Yeah, I mean, kinetic conflict, there is no avoiding it.

There's a reason why I've been standing on the table saying, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. We don't want war because war is awful. I've had people come in my chat and accuse me of being a hippie and accused me of being, you know, a wuss and like a dove. It's not that I'm afraid of a fight. It's that we shouldn't go to war unless we absolutely have to because war kills people. And not just soldiers, but innocent people. Little girls die in war, guys. That is the reality.

But these people that were up against in Israel, and not just in Israel, it's the whole diaspora. It's a diaspora, not just of Jews, but of psychotic Christian Zionists as well. And I don't even want to call them Christian Zionists anymore. I want to call them Jewish jihadis because that's what they are. They're Jewish jihadis. They want this. And this is going to happen whether or not you like it, whether or not Donald Trump is president,

Whether it's 2026 or 2036, this is going to happen. And so accelerating this and condensing it into a timetable where it's a 12-day war like it was last year, understand something. Donald Trump ended the war last year in June, a 12-day war, right? He dropped the bomb, you know, dropped the bomb, ended the war. And that set Iran up for this moment, as I understand it. Because what Iran did is they then embarked on a path to engage in devolution, initiate continuity of government. They can't be decapitated. There is no decapitation move you can do.

You can kill off their leadership a hundred times. And as I understand it, they have granted authority to the lowest level missile commanders to pick a target and fire. They don't have to call in for essential authority for permission. It's just pick a target and fire. And who knows how many of these missile commanders they have out there. But what we do know from even like the most conservative analysis is that they have tens of thousands of these missiles. And so they're set up to pulverize Israel over and over and over again until Israel submits and surrenders. And I think that's what we're going to see happen.

I think we're going to see Israel in a situation where they are facing existential demise. And the Samson option is absolutely a concern. But I don't know if there's any other way to stop the Greater Israel project. You can't negotiate with them. You can't ask them nicely not to do it. And you can't even incentivize them with like stuff, you know, like economic trade deals, peace, whatever. They don't care. They don't want any of that.

They want the land. It's definitely a bit of a gourdian knot that we've permitted ourselves to get, you know, double-binded into, as Artie Lang from Tavis stock had called it the double bind. Damned if you do, damned if you don't in some ways. certainly my concern always like I said you know is just that there is it seems this the Satanists that seem to infiltrate various religions Muslim and Christian and Jew we always talk about you know everyone wants like there's this tendency of framing things between like us where the good guys are nations the good guys that other nation that we're being you know told is our enemy must be the bad guys or this this religion is the bad ones more our religions

are the good ones. And then you get like sub-splintering of like the Sunnis think that Shias are bad and vice versa. And the Protestants think the Catholics are bad and vice versa. And then you got the subgroups in every single faith. But what often is missed out is like this integrated satanic high priesthood, which has been working together since the days of ancient Babylon and before that, which is very good at masquerading and infiltrating things they want to destroy from within. And they're always working together. You know, the Kabbalistic Jews, the Kabbalistic Jews, the Kabbalistic Christians, the Kabbalistic Islamic, you know, Batinia of priesthoods that created the Hashishin secret society that worked with the Templars.

Like, they're always working together. At the end of the day, there's this inner core of evil that people should be focusing on understanding. And my concern is just that they've built up this trap in the Middle East to usher in new millennium that begins with a punctuated cataclysm, a sacrifice of a people or many people. And, you know, when you look at the writings of the people who did the most to set the stage for the creation of what became Israel as a state. And here, I'm, you know, going back a century ago, looking at the Plymouth brethren, the Darbyites, like George Pember, the leading intellectual of the Plymouth brethren that generated Alistair Crowley, who was obsessed with mystery Babylon and ushering in the Antichrist. All of these guys were thinking, how can they, in the 19th century, set the stage.

they were working with Lord Palmerston. They were working with, you know, Lord Shaftesbury and other Zionists who, you know, to, to, to create a ritual, kind of like some sort of a witchcraft invocation to do things that would carry out Book of Revelation. Even the decision to, like, to pick Jerusalem as the location around, like, what is it, seven hills or ten hills? Seven hills, I think. That's actually not, I was just reading an article going through how, even the decision in the 1860s that this is where this was going to be built up by the new Templars of Germany and the King Edward the seventh acolytes around Charles Warren, who was

like excavating Solomon's temple. The idea that it was in the location that it's currently been selected is a complete fraud. They just wanted to find a topography that had seven hills that would then like be able to justify their particular reading of Revelation, whereas the evidence was that the actual Jerusalem was located like a hundred miles away in an area that only had two hills and they just ignored all of the evidence that that was where it was located because the two hills didn't didn't it wasn't satisfying to their idea of eschatology so they had to pick this other location fallaciously that's interesting yeah and then you have the whole like gog magog you know interpretations

like what is that who is that you know is it a person is as it as it implies in some places is it a nation you know some people say it was the russians john hagey says It's the Russians and Israel. I've heard people say it's the U.S. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many.

And it changes. You know, in the 16th century, there were presumptions that it, that it, that it was the Spanish Empire and the British. And then it changes based on the geopolitical, you know,

changing winds of each age, you know, to be reinterpreted to being whatever's expedient for who's ever in political power. And at the moment, it's this. But these guys want, they were obsessed with this idea of recreating Babylon,

to usher in the Antichrist in order to bring in this end times. So my fear is that they've done a pretty good job of creating this multi-layered time bomb called Israel that has like all of these trigger points with the Samson Doctrine with getting them nuclear warheads illegally from the United States in the 60s. In the Manhattan Project days, there was people around Alistair Crowley's circle like JFK tried to stop them. JFK tried stopping them. Didn't work out. But now they got it. And so are we like falling into this very difficult, like I don't know how to defuse this kind of bomb, but it's like, shit, how many billions of people have to die to like resolve the issue?

Does anybody have to die? Is there not a better way? And I keep on thinking of myself, like it seems like the formulas for what can work and what truly scares the oligarchy was laid out pretty well by the Belt and Road initiative, by the spirit of cooperation and building up big projects that Yitzhak were. bin and yasser aref that we're trying to do like that sort of the the contour of this american system like how it expressed itself in eurasian in the middle east and the best of times is there i know that that can be worked with but it's like who is who is left in israel to represent that yitzhak rbin tradition i don't see i see people are there who are very reasonable people and moral but they're not anywhere near political power and the murders of

They don't even have a political party. Like, there aren't any political parties that are out there that, that, uh, like, they might have like one seat in the Knesset, right? I mean, it's like that, you know, they, they, it's really sad because I agree with you. I've been saying this. Like, I have looked. I don't see the party of peace in Israel. Like, I don't see the political party calling for peace.

Even the ones who are saying, okay, let's sign the two state solution. Let's make peace of power sign today. let's like let's remove that that talking point from the world stage but we want war with Iran that's what that's what I mean yeah Yair Lapid said that last week he said if you he said or two weeks ago he said Netanyahu if you start a war with Iran we I will put all of our differences aside and we will get behind you and we will this is the opposition leader in the Knesset to Netanyahu so there isn't like a party of peace it's really sad but that's the reality by the way the city I live in Richmond,

seven hills, found it on seven hills. I'm pretty sure D.C. was found on seven hills. Rome was founded on seven hills. So it's like, this is a, this is a pattern. There's a pattern there. There's a pattern. There's definitely a pattern. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The New Jerusalem, eschatologists, sir. Yeah, and all of them do, I think Richmond and D.C. both draw that distinction to Rome. And I don't know where Rome gets it from, whether that's like eschatology or whatever, but I think that is based on

like the Roman Republic like that. Well, it's pre-Christian eschatology that came out of this. So there's something called the sibling oracles, the sibling books that were used by Tarkwin to, well, Tarkwin had a, you know what the siblings are? Is that like Sybil, like you're referring to Sybil from the like the biblical, the biblical sense? What is that? Or like the crypto, it's like the crypto. It's witches. Basically, it's like witches.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Perchises and witches, yeah, that were like... There's a sybil in the Bible, but I've heard of, like, the sybil witches, like, yeah, like... Yeah, like, there were ten dominant sibyls in the ancient worlds, the Kumayyan Sybil, the Apennine, and there's the Delphic Sybil or the Oracle of Delphi, basically the same thing. It was, you know, the way the world was wired to be run, and each one would, like, utter out cryptic poetry on... Usually, they were stoned out of their heads, you know, so they're doing kind of, like, like, a stream of consciousness stuff when you're stoned. kind of seems profound maybe if somebody's, you know, just really thinks that you're touched by the gods, right? And they would be, you'd have scribes take down the stuff.

And these books were then organized by a high priesthood of interpreters to then be published and become the dominant manuscripts that would be used by the Roman Senate or earlier the Roman kingdom at the end when Rome was becoming a republic or even when it transitioned into becoming an empire. And basically there were, there were stories that were very colorful, all focused upon end times scenarios of like, you know, the seven moons will rise or the seven sons will rise and three hawks would come down, very Nostradamacy type of language, right? Very open to interpretation. And, but it shaped policy. This stuff decided when Rome would have an alliance, when it would go to war. They would consult the sibling oracles and only like 15 people were vetted to be part of

the high priest that would interpret the oracles. It was kind of like Eaching. You know, you just open up the book of Eching and somebody would just, you know, or, you know, they would like, or you do some runes. You know, you throw some runes down and then you have some druids interpret where the ruins fell and they then say whether you should go to war and rape and build a village or not. Yeah, yeah. Or who do you sacrifice in the village for Odin?

And so a very similar kind of vibe. But these were a much higher level in the village. they shaped Rome and they were integrated with um once Christianity was was more successful at uh at competing with this these like immoral debauched roman uh cults you know of mithra and sibs sibel and attis and stuff and isis they were just not not not doing it the jesus's followers are doing a much better job at at demonstrating that this why this is a much more viable religion than all of the other dominant religions but uh the sibling oracles became revamped and Christianized so that for the first few centuries, really up until

the 13th, 14th centuries even, they were used by the leaders of the Crusades as almost co-equal to the Bible. And so they would shape how certain poetic imagery or certain messaging within the book of Daniel or the book or chronicles or even in the book of John, how you would interpret them according to the utterings of the civilian or. A lot of the Gnostics were also followers or even creators. The Gnostic competitors of the early Christians were actually generating these books as well that corrupt people. Often within the Benedictine monasteries were saying should be treated as equally holy. They're like the new revelations.

Just like we had the prophets of the Bible, we have new prophets today who are still touched by the Holy Spirit. And so we should take what they say as if it is co-equal to what Jesus was saying. And again, it was always focused on end-time scenarios. This is the origin of millennialism. So what Darby was doing when he was generating his pre-millennialist dispensationalist sort of redefinition of how God dispenses his will onto the world in thousand-year cycles punctuated by cataclysmes. That stuff was taken directly from the siblings, the sibling oracles. So it's a fascinating world of study. It's very difficult because the only people who seem to go there are like hyper dry apolitical academics or witchcraft people into Satanism who also respect it.

But normal people who like just care about the truth never seem to go there or analyze it. So there's not it's difficult to research this stuff. But I've been piecing it together more and more now. But that's really what gave rise to the Crusades. It's what's given rise to like every bad idea that contaminated Christianity and make Christianity become. a tool of empire and destruction has a lot to do with this and this priesthood that uses this and generates this. That's, that's fascinating. And yeah, and so, you know, then because I agree with you. I think that there is the potential for overreaction. And then like you said, I think on the

very first episode of the show, when you were doing it with Sean Morgan, you even talked about that, how Israel might be like a sacrificial lamb for like the deep state, like their intention is to destroyed. I think Henry Kissinger said that in 2012. So that is, that's a reality and that's something that has to be, I think that balance has to be struck. It seems to me like, I mean, Trump seems like he's not going to let that happen. Like he doesn't want that to happen. He doesn't want to see any civilization, I think, get destroyed, you would hope. As much as, you know, I can make that assessment analysis about somebody who I've never actually met.

as much as anything. But again, it's like if this is inevitable, this conflict, which I think it is, I think this conflict is absolutely inevitable. You can call it biblical, you can call it prophecy, you call it whatever you want. I don't like to go there because I think that that is stealing God's glory. I think that is taking, you know, that is assuming divine wisdom, which is basically like anointing yourself as God, which is I think one of the big sins that I think these people are doing. the Zionists are doing is that they are basically anointing themselves as God by saying, oh yeah, this is the end of the world. This is the book of revelations happening right now.

You got to be really careful with that because you are stealing God's glory. And even Jesus said, only my father knows what's going to happen. I don't even know what's going to happen. Exactly. That's so important. As soon as human beings start imposing their presence to make the end of the world happen, artificially, like where you, when George Bush starts like bombing Iraq and saying like, yeah, I'm measuring in Gog and Magog, you know, when he's giving actual interview saying like,

yeah, now's the time for Gog and McGoggins. It's like, yeah, but why did you just lie about weapons of mass destruction? Why did you just do all of these lies to start bombing civilians? Yeah. I don't think God is happy with this. I don't think this is how God really wanted the Messiah to come back. I don't think that's just part of the plan. I think you're cheating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the idea that you're going to force God's hand, which is what Again, that's what the dispensationalists are doing. That's what they think they're doing, is that they're going to force God's hand by helping these Orthodox Jews

summon the Antichrist, what they consider the Antichrist, that will then force Jesus to come back and fight him. And then that's going to force the end of days. It's like, well, if that actually does end up happening, guys, I don't think Jesus is going to be very happy with you that you, like, that you force this all to happen. And now maybe it's God's plan, maybe, but you can't possibly know that for sure. And if you claim that you do, then again, you're anointing yourself as God and you're claiming divine wisdom and you're stealing his glory.

And that is one of the worst possible sins you can commit in terms of just from a mindset theological standpoint. And the other thing is like when people talk about like, oh, oh, well, this is the end of day. so we need to be on our best behavior. It's like, that's like the kid who's going to be well-behaved on Christmas Eve because Santa Claus is coming the next day. Is like, are you actually doing the thing for the right reasons? Like, are you following the teachings of Christ for the right reasons? Are you doing it as opportunism because you are seeking a bounty, a reward for yourself? You know, that's why Jesus said, only my father knows the timeline.

Just live your life, like, you know, according to these teachings and just assume that you should always be living this way. And not that, you know, tomorrow is going to be the end of the world. But anyway, like, so, but getting back to the geopolitics of it, we have to talk about this stuff now because this isn't just, like, academic theory anymore. Like, we're fighting a war right now in Iran. And there are people dispensationalists saying we're doing it for biblical reasons. This is like because the Bible, because God promised the land to be Jews. That's what Mike Huckabee said. It's what a number of other people have said.

So we have to talk about this. We have to confront this reality. You heard what that woman said. There's a lot of other people who speak like that in Israel and in this diaspora. And so this is a geopolitical thing. So now this is impacting geopolitics. It's impacting the way governments interact. It's threatening world peace.

It's threatening the future of humanity, really. So, yeah, we're going to talk about it and we're going to pick it apart and we're going to analyze it. And people need to get comfortable with that. This is a new age, I think, in political discourse. It's a good thing that we're getting comfortable talking about this. And again, I'll leave everyone kind of like a white pill here because the thing that I'm really encouraged by in this situation that I was a little worried about when this started. Same thing that you were worried that you, I recall saying you were worried about when October 7th happened is you were worried about the Muslims like going in and attacking Israel and then getting sucked in like to the trap, the bait, taking the bait, right? Right.

They've all been given the bait to attack Iran. Turkey's been given the bait. The Arab has been given the bait. Pakistan's been given the bait. They're all being given. And they have historical differences with Iran, right? It's not like Iran and them are great historic friends. However, all of them have come out and said, no, we're not going to.

I even saw the deputy foreign minister of Iran come out a few times and said that there were false flags being conducted against Turkey and Cyprus and the Arabs. again, who knows if it's true, fog of war, propaganda, whatever. But the fact that Erdogan, like Sharif, the prime minister of Pakistan, came out and said, like, we're not going to attack Iran. We're not going to do it. We're not going to participate. And the Arabs came out and said, we're not going to attack. Like, we're not participating. Lindsay Graham is livid over that.

And then finally, I'll just play, I'll show you this. There's two clips that I'll show you. The first one is they're both of Erdogan. This is from a few days ago. A few days ago, this is made of the rounds. This is after they allegedly reportedly shot down some rockets that were shot into their airspace, the Turks. And he says,

despite our repeated warnings, provocative steps are continued to be taken against Turkey. No action shall be taken that cast a shadow over our thousand-year-old neighborly and brotherly bomb with Iran. So he's basically coming out and saying, like, we're not going to fight Iran. It's not going to happen. And then this is, I think, more recent. I just saw this was posted by D.D. Geopolitics. And I think this is in Turkish, but he says, we do not have a religion called Sunni Shia. We have one religion and that is Islam.

So what we're seeing now, Matt, is a major stress test for the Uma, the community. This thing that has formed in the past five or six years that's never happened before in the history of Islam. There's never been an Uma. There's always been, whenever there was hegemony, it was always a caliphate, meaning there was one leader, like a king, who ruled over the whole empire. This is actual coalition building of nation states that have plenty of differences. You got Arab monarchies, you got Turkish democracies, you have all sorts of different ethnic differences. You have religious differences. and yet they're not

taking the bait, they're not fighting one another. That's what I think they were, the black hats, the cabal, were trying to get them to do. They were trying to get them to fight Iran because then it almost doesn't even matter what happens with Israel in Iran because then the region just kind of falls into

total chaos and disarray. They're holding their, they're staying their sword, they're not taking the bait, and that is the white pill in all this. Because if these, These guys who we've been told my entire life are, they're Muslims, they're crazy. They can't be reasoned with.

They're totally irrational. They want to kill everyone who's on a Muslim. They want to conquer the world. All that nonsense that Lindsay Graham puts out on a daily basis and Ted Cruz puts out on daily basis. Here they are brokering peace, in the case of Qatar and Amman, brokering peace all over the world and not taking the bait to jump into a war when some of them have legitimate reasons to jump in.

and and you know alleviate some of that pent up aggression and the guy who seems to be at the tip of the spear along with MBS and I think MBS is largely responsible for piecing this all together

Erdogan he's the guy who Trump championed back in 2019 said he was his guy he reiterated that back in September when Erdogan visited him and they signed a nuclear deal and when Assad was over Throne back in December of 2024, Trump immediately posted on true social and gave all the credit to Erdogan and said, Erdogan's the guy, he's my guy in the Middle East, he's going to make sure this all works out. So, you know, the fact that Erdogan is now standing up and saying, we're not going to have a war, we're not going to fight one another, we're going to figure this out.

Major white pill for me. Major white pill. You're muted. Yes, I was. Well, I think that's probably a good place to end. And maybe next week. And it's also, I think, a good reason why Nftali Bennett immediately, as soon as the bomb started falling on Iran, immediately started the narrative messaging saying that Turkey is the new Iran. And a number of, again, unfortunate mega influencers that I've been watching have also been repeating in lockstep.

This Israeli intelligence narrative as well that Turkey is also the city of London. Turkey is also the new Iran now to prepare our minds and create a space for the, you know, the setting of the stage of a new conflict. What do you got there with Bennett? Yeah, this is a break, because you're right, his rhetoric has been saying that there was that clip from like 10 days ago that went viral of him saying that, you know, Turkey's the new Iran. This is from this morning. I haven't even seen this yet.

I just saw this posted. But maybe we should listen to this because this is him reiterating. Again, this is the guy he's running in an election against. Netanyahu in October and he's the favorite to win either him or Yaya Lepid are the favorites to win the election in October to be the prime minister of Israel. Oh, there's no sound. Oh, whoops, I'm sorry. I just saw that for some reason, Stream Yard has been doing that.

They'll break the sound from your share screen. Hold on. Based on comments that you said in the past. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm going to restart it. Let me just ask you whether there's a risk of further confrontation with Turkey. based on comments that you've said in the past? Well, we need to ensure that Arduran doesn't create a new alliance of radical Islam Sunni version,

meaning an access between himself, Julani, Qatar, and Hamas. We've been facing for many decades the Shiite radical Islam, And I hope that Turkey doesn't choose to foment terror and Islamism in its power. It's up to Turkey ultimately. If they seek peace, we're definitely one piece. But if they try and surround us with terror, we will not sit idle. So again, what Erdogan just said is there is no Sunni, there is no Shia, there's just Islam. and we're one community.

So that, I think he's trying to diffuse that, that narrative that, like, again, they're trying to turn Sunni and Shia and weaponize it against one another. And again, I think really what, like landing this thing, I think really what we need to do now is we need to look inward. Like, we need to look at ourselves in the mirror because, you know, whatever happens with Israel, we'll see what happens. But regardless, we need to confront this reality of, like, What are we supporting in the Middle East here?

Because there are tens of millions of people who I think in America who do support Israel because of their upbringing and their religion and whatnot. Christians, I mean, not necessarily Jews, although I do think that obviously the Jewish diaspora is there. But understanding what is it that we're actually supporting here? Do we understand what the in-game and the goals are and educating the public? because I think when the public is educated, they'll be less likely to subscribe to these ambitions for empire, which is clearly what the ambition is here. And even though the Christian Zionists in America have denied this for years, they've denied this. They've cast it as an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.

But here you have the Israeli leaders saying, no, that is exactly what we're doing. We are building an empire from the Nile to the Euphrates. And we were willing to kill everybody who gets in our way, who's going to stop it. And, you know, obviously that is incongruent with Christian doctrine. And so we have to have that conversation now, unfortunately, because it is now infected our politics and it's infected our government and infected our foreign policy. Well, I'll be very curious to see what the U.S. does in the days and weeks ahead as far as the panning out of this hypothesis. So we'll see if they extricate themselves, will they leave the little dog, the yapping little dog by its. itself to face the consequences of its abuses or or is it going to be something else.

We'll see. I guess we'll circle back next week and I'm sure the world will give us a lot more to talk about. Do you have any people who would thrown in to the chats for, I know if there's one comment that I'd seen actually that I wanted to just say something about early in Iran. I don't even know who said it, but it was somebody regarding child marriages in Iran. Yes, Iran is Iran is one of the 45 countries in the world that still unfortunately allow for child arranged marriages. That's true.

India too. There's a number of countries that allow this. That's bad. It's also the problem with religious institutions. It wasn't that long ago that in the Christian world, that was still a thing. We've been able to get over that. and other countries are still behind in the curve. Now, the thing that I will say about this is that they aren't alone.

There's 45 and they don't have an incentive structure, incentive structure in place to advance pedophiles, the way we in Pizza Gateland here have a built-in satanic pedophile network that helps to incentivize and then elevate pedophiles into positions of power. That's not really the case. It's more of an old religious traditions that are still holding on thing. And number two is that Iran in 2019 made a commitment to completely ban it and phase it out. So that's another thing that the Iranian government has been moving towards. They put policies on the table about that by 2030, you have to be 18 to get married.

So there is all of that nuance to bring into that conversation because this is being done, I know, in the Fox News space, when Iran is characterizes a variety of things, state sponsor of international terror, the cause of all of our problems, you know. more like more door it's basically more door moral justifications for war yes yeah yeah yeah and again like that like what you just described is awful and it shouldn't happen um but these cultures these foreign cultures around the world it's not our job to police these cultures and change them um and it's certainly not uh i think a a positive a wise calculus to wage war against a culture simply because you disagree with their practices or find certain practices that they engage in despicable. But I will say this. If pedophilia is your motivator for warfare, Israel is notoriously a pedophile sanctuary. And there actually is a currently the top cybersecurity official in

Netanyahu's government has been charged with felony pedophilia charges in the state of Nevada and fled the country and will refuse to come back and face the charges. And he's being protected by the state of Israel. So if pedophilia is your motivator here, again, like, let's make sure we're staying on task here and we're not just like indulging compromising. I don't know how many Ayatollahs and IRC leaders

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