Badlands Media - Breaking History Ep. 142: Iran War Narratives, Strait of Hormuz Power Plays, and the Yuan Oil Shift

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

Matt Ehret and Ghost break down the rapidly evolving Iran war, focusing on the contradictions, shifting narratives, and geopolitical stakes driving global confusion. The episode explores conflicting messaging from Trump, Iran, and international actors, highlighting how negotiations, military actions, and economic pressures seem to unfold simultaneously with little coherence. They dig into the strategic importance of the Strait of Hormuz, the surprising role of yuan-based oil transactions, and the broader implications for the US dollar and global trade systems. The conversation expands into the chaos of media narratives, where even opposing outlets acknowledge inconsistencies, raising questions about what is real versus constructed perception. The episode closes on deeper ideological terrain, examining how belief systems, political alliances, and cultural narratives shape public understanding of war, truth, and power in a rapidly destabilizing world.

That's a hell of a... Live on this week's episode of Breaking History. Not the dramatic epic intro that people are used to, but that's okay. That's okay. Ideas have a natural drama and epicness to themselves. So, Gordon, how are you doing today? Good, good. Yeah, sorry for the abrupt start, but we're waiting on a new intro that I think you're supposed

to be ready today or tomorrow, I'm told. So anyway, yes. Welcome to Breaking History. This is March, today's March 25th, 2006. And I started just saying that the being of the shows,

just in case we go back and watch it and for whatever reason we don't have it documented. At least it's documented in the audio transcript of our show. All right. Very wise.

That's good foresight and you're very considerate about your posterity. So that's excellent. I want to throw out too. I'm going to be flying today with Cynthia to Calgary for a week. We've got a lot of events

to do there. And I just want to throw out before we start anything for people who do want this Sunday to come to an event I'll be hosting on the British roots of the deep state in Calgary, very close to the airport at a hotel. Send me a message on Canadian patriot.org or something, but we're going to be doing, there's going to be a big event on Saturday. Those are, those tickets are sold out at the Cornerstone Forum while I'll be doing a debate with an anti-China hawk and then the next day I'll be doing my event. So just want to throw that out there first. and now we can like open up the door to an analysis like we always do of world events yeah i'll throw um i think it was eleanor 2000 from a few weeks ago had put a rant in at the end of the show

asking about more information on the british on london and everything so yeah eleanor's didn't mad a message and he was kind of running walking me through before we went live what he's going to be doing and I think that might be that might be more enriching than us kind of like running through a few resources right now. Yeah, exactly. I'll give you some fun homework to do. There's a lot of work. If you want to understand the structure of the city of London's control grid, especially

throughout the United States from 1776. I've written some books on it. We've made documentaries on it. I'll send you a few things, but message me on Canadian patriot.org. I'll help you out. And as far as like I said, the tickets to the events. that we'll be doing this weekend in Calgary, if anybody is in or around Calgary or doesn't mind just flying in, send me a message that way too, and I'll help you out on those friends.

So, Gordon, we've got some interesting things going on in the world right now. I know that both of us try to keep an eye on things pretty closely and generate hypotheses about what's going on behind the surface appearance of things. There is an objective reality. There's our perceptions of reality. they're not always in alignment and, you know, very different perceptions, different explanations, hypotheses could be trying to account for the same objective thing. And either one could be wrong, both could be wrong. You know, you could have, I had a friend of mine who he was pretty

scientifically adept and had made some fantastic models of our solar system showcasing the back over a decade ago. But he made these 3D models using some software, just plugging in the basic observational data of various planets, planetary orbits, planetary motions, where we know, you know, Mars is, venuses based upon the backdrop of the zodiac and the procession of the econoxy, he factored all of these things in using, again, basic data and came up with several different models, one of which was the Tychonic model, which featured basically the Earth in the center, static and everything moving around the Earth,

except in such a weird way that it involves like this. The planets were moving around the Sun, but the Sun was moving around the Earth, but it still fit observational data. And then he did another one of featuring the Tolmeic model where literally the Earth is in the center, the Sun is moving around the Earth, but everything else is also moving around the Earth,

different from the Tyconic. And he did another one with the, they called the lunatic theory with where he plugged in, he said, let's imagine that the moon is the center that is fixed and everything is moving around the moon. And he plugged in the data and generated a model where everything moves around the moon. And all of them kind of fit with an observational error pretty well. So, but they all had certain common, like there was subtle flaws and fallacies, right, within each one of the models. but they worked to explain if that's all we wanted to do. So it's always a challenge to zero in on what's going on, especially when we're not in the rooms.

We're not in the, but I like your approach. You've got one of the most rigorous approaches that I know. So there's certain things that I'd like to talk about today. Number one is the Japanese, well, the reopening of the Straits of Hormuz with conditions. That's number one. obviously that that's not expected also trumps about face where he was threatening to start bombing energy infrastructure and then said actually you know what we're going to we're going to wait

another five days we're not going to do that because negotiations are going so well the iranians are like we don't know what you're talking about we're not talking to anybody we're not talking to you so there's definitely something interesting happening there the japanese appear to be paying in yuan. As the uranium said, they'll only let oil shipments through if they pay in yuan. Some had been led to believe that that would make the U.S. unhappy because the U.S. is wanted to preserve the U.S. dollar or so that's been the messaging. And that's why China didn't pay for, didn't agree to buy Venezuelan oil because

it was supposed to be purchased in U.S. dollars. And they'd been saying, well, we were paying in yuan. to Maduro. And now you're telling us to pay in dollars. We don't want to do that. So they said no. So there seems to be a desire to preserve the U.S. dollar. But then there's this allowance for a reopening based upon the payment of Yuan. So in all of this, let me let me get your take for a few minutes. So how are you thinking about things? Well, let's look at this real quick. I thought this was pretty funny. I put this in the news brief from. I think it was Monday, either Monday or Tuesday. All the days are kind of blending together now. But this is Edward Luce, I think it's how you say his name. He is a geopolitical analyst for the Financial Times of London.

And he says, strange situation where we await a statement from Iran to check whether there's any truth to what the U.S. president is saying. And this is like an affirmation of something. something Burning Bright said before the Iran war even began based on like the Venezuela template, which is one thing that he noticed and I think rings true is during the whole Venezuela situation after Maduro was captured. Everyone was trying to throw a narrative out there. Everyone was trying, including people around Trump. They all had kind of kind of had their own take on where this thing was going, what was going to happen. All the congressmen were posturing like maybe there was going to be a war. the only two entities that seemed to be providing affirmation for the narrative was Trump and Delci Rodriguez and like the people around her.

It was basically like Trump and the Venezuelan government were the only two who were saying things that were consistent with one another. Everyone else was trying to spin the story and be like, oh, we're going to get Maria Kriena Machado now. Oh, we're going to get, you know, the whole Madera regime's going away. whatever. Like, we're seeing this pattern start to emerge in a sense with Iran. It's not perfect because, as you said, Trump will say, yeah, we're negotiating. The Iranians are like, what are you talking about? We're not negotiating. But the one thing that I've noticed that they are doing that's very goofy is building on what we talked about last week is they are basically being, they're the ones being goofballs. Like Trump and the Iranians are being goofballs while the neocons and the Zionists and everyone else, who is very serious about this. They're like, this is a very serious war. And then like the White House posts like a Nintendo Wii video that's like that that has like edits of, you know, things getting bombed. Like somebody hits a tennis ball and then the things get bombed.

And then Iran responds by posting like a Lego AI video of like the whole situation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like the Iranian government is putting out like memes and videos like making light of this whole situation. as is the White House. But everyone else is treating this as like a very serious situation. And so again, missiles flying, perhaps.

I certainly have, like as you said, there's reports of activity in Lebanon. Also Iraq now, right? The U.S. is just bombed the Iraqi army. The PMF headquarters were just bombed. And now the Baghdad is saying that the PMF, which is a branch of the, Iraqi army has a authorization to retaliate as they see fit on the strike. So it seems like maybe Iraq is being brought in because they're being treated like their Iran proxies.

I don't know if you saw that one. No, actually, I actually haven't even seen that headline yet. Yeah, that happened yesterday, yesterday morning. Yeah. Yesterday morning, huh? Yeah. Do PMF attack, US attack on PMF headquarters in Unbar or in Iraq, you could just say? And, uh, attack on PMF Iraq.

Interesting. I'm surprised that, uh, I never, I didn't see that headline come up anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, it's in the cradle. I first saw it top, um, March 24th it says here. Here I can pull it up, uh, one second here. I'll just do a share screen. Uh, uh, here, share.

See it? Oh, wait, now I have to share the screen. And I add to stage. Now I've got to remove yours. I'm going to add mine. Yeah, okay, there we go. So those on March 24th. And it says here, a top commander in the popular mobilization units

and over a dozen others were killed in U.S. airstrikes on Iraq overnight, marking yet another escalation by Washington and Tel Aviv. U.S. strikes hit a headquarters and killed at least 15 fighters as well as the PMU operations commander in Anbar province. It added that the martyr's blood will, ah, stupid pop-ups, martyr's blood will not be in vain while holding the Iraqi government fully responsible for confronting these repeated American violations and taking clear and resolute positions to preserve the country's sovereignty and put an end to these grave transgressions. And then apparently the U.S. government itself, or not the U.S. sorry, Baghdad had said, okay, we will, you have an authorization to retaliate.

And one of the fallacies in the Western media is that they're being treated as if there are some proxy militia or something. That's how the Fox News is calling this army is a proxy militia for Iran. But they're an officially recognized branch of the Iraqi government. So it's not really what we're being told in that sense. And so it's called the popular mobilization forces. Yeah. The PMF. Okay.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so that's another aspect on top of Hezbollah, feasibly getting even more drawn in. I've got friends down there, journalists in Lebanon who have been covering that one, and they're waiting for an even bigger escalation. So that's another sort of Shia pressure cooker that's unfolding in front of our eyes. So, yeah, not sure about that. Yeah, I mean, so like let's just talk broad strokes and then we can kind of get into more specific analysis. my again my my my general take hasn't really changed my instinct my gut which i can't turn off

is that this is all in some sense you know i guess you call it a sci act because there's action some action happening ostensibly yeah but this is a sci-op basically to accelerate a timeline that and condense a timeline that i think was going to unfold regardless at some point in the future of a war between Israel and its neighbors, Iran only being one of them. And we would, you know, the affirmation of that idea, that theory would be supported by rhetoric from President Trump that was de-escalation. Like we would see him de-escalate very quickly and almost like step off the rug while we would see Israel continue to escalate and kind of ignore that and be like, no, we're not

doing that that that's what i was waiting for and expecting and that's exactly what we've seen happen in the past 24 to 48 hours uh and to that point here is uh this is posted by the state department so it doesn't get much more official from that when it comes to u.s foreign policy um this war is and so here is president trump uh yesterday during a press conference we've won this with this war has been won the only one that likes to keep it going is the fake I mean, the New York Times. You read the New York Times, like, we're not winning a war where they have no Navy and they have no Air Force and they have no nothing. We literally have planes flying over Tehran and other parts of their country. They can't do a thing about it. For instance,

if I want to take down that power plant, that very big powerful power plant, they can't do a thing about it. It's like, take me. That's all they can do. And yet, if you read the New York Times or if you watch ABC fake news or NBC fake news, you'd say it's a close battle. It's not a close battle. We've won this. This war has been. Yeah.

So, you know, again, this isn't the first time we've heard Trump say this, that the war is won. The war is over. But the fact that this comes on the heels of him saying, yeah, we're going to delay, like, blowing up all their power plants because we're actually in a negotiation with them. And everything is looking pretty positive. right now. And then he also said, uh, he also said this. Oh, wait, I, I removed your screen share one. Let me just add it back again. All right. Yeah. So he, so he also said this. This is during the same press conference. Yeah. Yeah. Was the turning point to make you want to pursue a ceasefire.

A few days ago, you know, you said you wanted to continue bombing Iran. Now you want to pursue these talks. Was there something that happened? The fact that they're talking to us and they're talking sense. And remember it all starts with they cannot have a nuclear weapon. Just, you know, I said yesterday, what are they said, what are the top 10? I said, well, number one, two, and three is they can't have a nuclear weapon. And they're not going to have a nuclear weapon. And we're talking about that. And I don't want to say in advance, but they've agreed they will never have a nuclear weapon. They've agreed to them. Okay. So that right there is a significant milestone in this narrative from like the neocon Zionist perspective

because that's the first time we've actually heard somebody at the top from this side from the American Western media side say that. We've heard the Iranians say that that they are not pursuing a nuclear weapon. We've heard Tulsi Gabbard and the intelligence community give that analysis. But this is the first time we've heard Trump say,

yeah, they actually don't even care about a nuclear weapon. And this is consistent with the reports that we've, I think we reviewed them last week from the Omani foreign minister and the British National Security Advisor, who both were in the meetings with Kushner and Wikoff, and they both said independently that they were surprised by what Iran was willing to agree to and the terms that they had basically offered, which was actually beyond not having a nuclear weapon. I think they said that they were willing to, like, curtail enrichment, that sort of thing. But then if you go and you look at the 15 points that are out there, I don't know if you've read these.

I have you. Yeah, I don't know if you have them handy or if you want to pull them up. I have them on a word document. You have them? I have them right here. Where do they go? Right here. Okay.

So this is what the U.S. has offered to Iran. And Iran allegedly has said no deal. But again, it's hard. to know what's real and what's not because they'll say one thing and before you know it the thing they're saying they're not going to do is actually happened um all sanctions removed u.s. assistance in building a civilian nuclear power plant this is again the trump team offering this to Iran no snapback sanctions threat missiles will be addressed later not immediately so they're basically just removing that from the table um nuclear program frozen um meaning they won't further develop

their ability to enrich. They can keep the enriched uranium, but it has to stay under IAEA supervision, which is consistent with every other country who has nuclear energy. No weapons grade material on Iranian soil. So if there is any weapons grade enrichment material, which I don't think there is, like I think they've always been pretty transparent, like even the lying, like the liars in the West, I think, have said it's like 60 percent, which weapons grade. is my understanding is 90% or more. So no weapons grade material on Iranian soil, no expansion of enrichment capability.

Natanz is Fana or Isfahan and Fordo destroyed. And I think those are the three that were bombed during Operation Midnight Hammer. All enriched material handed to the IAEA, international monitoring enforced, and gradual implementation tied to compliance. So, again, like a lot of these things that are being offered here are pretty surprising. Not surprising to me because I think this is consistent with what we've seen. I've been speculating for a while that I thought that Iran was going to get a nuclear power plant built by maybe the Americans.

They're already having, have one under construction by Russia. And I think if you remember last year after like the Operation Midnight Hammer, I think it was either Marco Rubio or J.D. Vance let slip during a like Oval Office meeting with the press that they were they had off like the U.S. had offered to help or like they're like we're eager to help Iran rebuild their energy like their nuclear energy program, you know, as like a civilian energy program. So again like these weird little moments that are just totally inconsistent with everything else that we've been told. Everything else. the official narrative this is not consistent with what Fox News, the neocons, Lindsay Graham, Israel, any of them

have said. This is totally like a new, we're in like a new chapter of the situation, but that's being, it's like the mainstream press is totally ignoring that fact. They're ignoring the fact that this is like a major milestone in Trump's

rhetoric towards impostering towards Iran and yet it's like lost on everyone because Is there too, everyone's so discombobulated now with like the confusing chaos and the confusing narratives? But this is a pretty big deal. That is a pretty big deal. No, these are good points and anomalies that shouldn't be ignored. I guess the thing that causes my mind and I know many people to have difficulty with this because, I mean, I know that everything is Kabuki Theater.

Like this is definitely a play within a play. It's what's happening here. but the objective undermining of systems that are required to support the 8 billion lives on the earth I could measure them being taken out of operation in front of my eyes you know like the fact that the fertilizer already I mean if if we get some miracle complete kumbaya hug and all all is forgiven and Iran is good now with the United States maybe some of this can be healed I don't know but it looks to me like There have been objective destructions of the PARs natural gas facilities of the biggest natural gas reserves, refining capabilities that are going into sustaining affordable fertilizer, food costs. It looks like Europe won't necessarily meet planting season this year.

Farmers can't afford their fertilizer, so they can't even, it's more expensive to plant than it would be just to leave your fields fallow. in many cases across Europe. I'm not too sure about how that's impacting the United States yet. But there are these things that took decades and decades to build up energy infrastructure-wise that do seem to have been taken out. And that could feasibly even more of that could be taken out, which is concerning to me. Or let alone the supply chains, you know, that are being, they don't need to be. But it seems like they're being artificially targeted for undermining.

so the supply chains that would otherwise support the industrial capability of what we need to have 8 billion or more lives on the earth is being seriously severed. So like I know China doesn't want to withhold the rare earths. They control like 90% of some of the most important rare earths and lithium in the world. They don't want to withhold it. They've wanted to keep good relations, but they've been forced to start cutting off the U.S. from these things that we desperately need to keep just things. going. Of course, if that's only up until now, maybe there's a surprise party in a kumbaya,

like, hey, Ashley's psych, rugpole, all's good, you know, and we get the machinery supporting civilization up again. But that's for me. Like that's what causes me trouble. And I don't know how that genie is going to be put back in the bottle. But like you said, there is this cartoonish quality in the messaging between the Iranians or some of the Iranians and especially Arakshi, as well as the Trump team. You know, you've got the Kirill Dimitri of kind of language as well, who's using the same kind of sarcastic, um, Mimi, Mimi kind of language, which implies a sort of, you know, a joke that many are not in on. That's something that I see is, I see that as well. I don't see all Iranians in agreement with that. You know, there's definitely many, uh, Iranians

who are completely in disacord with this method. So there's schisms. I don't know who's on what side necessarily. I just have a sense that anybody who's been working towards building up a resistance towards the Malthusian agenda, I can generally map out. And anybody who's been an asset for the regime change operators, I can generally map out. But some of them are difficult to plug in, right?

like Arakshi came to power over the dead body of Racy. Racy seemed like a pretty good guy. Arakshi, I don't know if he's good or not. I just don't. And so did Peschkian. I don't know. I know he's a heart surgeon, but I don't know what really his background is. Just the terms in which they came to power is shady.

That's for sure. Are they good? Maybe. I hope they are. I hope they have this great plan with Trump behind the scenes. But I don't know. I just don't know. But what about Saudi Arabia and all of this?

like Saudi Arabia was, I know there was some messaging, some fake, turned out to be fake news pushed by CNN saying that Saudi Arabia was planning to prepare for an escalation of the war to take more of an active part. And then the Saudi spoke of foreign ministry said, actually that that's not really happening. We don't want that. So what's your take on? Well, before we get to Saudi Arabia, because that is important.

Let's just one more thing is this is a, like to your point, very goofy. This is extremely goofy. here is uh this is posted i mean everyone's been posting this but this particular post is from the republicans against trump so you can guess what their what their position is on all this their rabid anti-trumpers and they say breaking trump says the straight of four muse will be jointly controlled by me and the iatola whoever the iatola is what the actual fuck is what they say so let's listen to trump and who's in control of it will irons be able to control the flow of oil be jointly controlled By whom?

Maybe me. Maybe me. Me and the Ayatollah, whoever the Ayatollah is, whoever the next Ayatollah, look. And there'll also be a form of a very serious form of a regime change. Now, in all fairness, everybody's been killed from the regime. They're really starting off. There's automatically a regime change. But we're dealing with some people that I find to be very reasonable, very solid,

the people within know who they are. They're very respected. And maybe one of them will be exactly what we're looking for. Look at Venezuela how well that's working out. See, and then he even, like, alludes at the end. He's like, think about Venezuela. Look how good that's working out. He's like, we're talking to people who are good people.

They're good, solid people that we trust. He says that everyone in the regime has been killed. But again, like none of these civilian, like the civilian leaders, like Arakchi, Posseschian, like none of them have been killed, right? Like they're all still walking around ostensibly. No reports of that. It's only like IRGC, Ayatollah. We also have reports, well, before we get to the reports, in response to this, you can see in this video.

I won't play the video again, but somebody combined these two. I think the BRICS info account combined these two. The Iranian embassy in Saudi Arabia posted this picture. It's like a picture of a child's toy that you like mount on your dashboard so your kid can feel like they're driving the car and says the straight of home ruse is controlled by me and the Ayatollah with like laughing emojis. And what's funny about that particular account doing this is because Saudi Arabia is the only country that has expelled the Iranian diplomats. Like at least that's what's being reported is that they told all the Iranian diplomats to get out. So the Iranian embassy in Saudi Arabia apparently currently isn't functioning. you know, if that's to be believed.

We then get commentary from Trump yesterday, again, during that same press conference, he's sitting there talking about him and this is consistent with a lot of other reporting. He says this. Saudi Arabia. What do you hear with Saudi Arabia? He's talking and that he has been encouraging you

to do certain things related to Iran. He's a warrior. He's a warrior. He's fighting with us, by the way. Saudi Arabia's been excellent and UAE, excellent. And I will tell you, Qatar, incredible. Saudi Arabia. What do you hear with Saudi Arabia? Yeah. And so what's funny is that five minutes after he said this, he said this at, so I'll pull up this post. This is, again, like a never-trumper who is, like, clowning on Trump, right? At 215 is when Trump made this statement. And then five minutes later at 220, the Saudi foreign ministry put out a statement saying, our leadership is not encouraging Trump to prolong this war. We want immediately for this to de-escalate in peace. So again, like a lot of chaotic narrative, I don't think for a minute that Trump and the Saudis are on different pages about what's going on here.

Not when the Saudis are pledging to invest trillion dollars in the U.S. and right now their assets are ostensibly being threatened their cash flow. But all of this is bookended by Iran now demanding recognition of its natural legal right to control the straight of war. That's like a condition that they've thrown out to Trump. And then in the backdrop, as Trump has said multiple times, he's like, I don't even know if this new Ayatollah, this son is even alive. like nobody's seen him for weeks you know he hasn't made any public appearances uh i've been saying that for the past year like you know since the last summer i've been saying hey ever since the 12 day war we have not seen any appearances by the i toll a commini has not been out there he hasn't been

making like publicly appearing anywhere um and we definitely got reporting around that time that he was like in in the hospital because of uh his can't because of cancer treatment and now they're being very transparent that he did have cancer before he died so again I'm wondering if there's even been on like an iatoll this entire time. I'm wondering if the iatollah was removed a long time ago. We know for a fact that when Ali Larajani announced the continuity of government implementation that they invoked implemented on August 2nd, we know that part of that implementation was formally removing the Ayatollah from the chain of command, which is, again, a significant

development that nobody has talked about because again the the dispersions that have always been cast on Iran and the reasons that they're such a threat is because it's it's an autocracy right the ayatola has infinite power unlimited power to say something and just by decree it happens that that's at least what the western media the Israeli controlled media would have you believe and now we have Iran saying we're we're removing him from the chain of command because we're worried that they're going to try to kill him. And if they do, then, you know, we would be like a chicken with our head cut off. Like, we need devolution.

So that's just extremely significant to me. And now there's memes everywhere of like the cardboard Ayatollah and that this guy may not even be real and he might be gay. Like even Trump was asked about that. And he was like, yeah, I don't know. Nobody really knows if he's gay or not. I mean, really, really the young guy, the son. Yeah, the son.

Like Trump was even asked about it. The New York posted an article about it. And then during the press conference that day, somebody asked, hey, there's a, like, a report this morning that the Ayatollah might be a homosexual. And, like, he, like, had, like, a homosexual relationship with his, uh, with his, you know, um, Islamic cleric teacher, right? And Trump was like, yeah, nobody knows, you know, nobody knows. He might be. It's like, what? What? You know, like, weird. Yeah, that's a weird little. I mean, literally the only word I can come up with is discombobulation. Like, that is what. Like, Trump is actually just discombobulation. everybody and when he talks about a weapon called the discombobulator I really think he's just talking about narratives and his ability to confuse the shit out of everybody because none of this makes any sense and then where I'll land it is Netanyahu saying that netin yahoo saying that uh whatever Trump does Israel is going to basically have its own its own agenda like Trump can like Trump can

like Trump's going to negotiate we're going to continue bombing. You know, that's what that's what Netanyahu is now saying, is that is that whatever the Americans are going to do, we have to pursue our own, our own objectives and, you know, make sure our objectives are in alignment. And what's been reported in Israeli media is that the Israelis are like cautioning the Americans that, hey, if you negotiate now, you're not going to get everything that we actually want to get. So you better, like, you better tamper it down and slow down and, and let us bomb

them a little more before we start to start to negotiate. Like, they don't want this thing to end. They don't want the ward to end. Of course. Of course. All right, let's let that simmer in a little bit. One, while I pull up a couple of ads, because I realize our lack of having an animated opening disrupted my flow. And usually right after the opening, I read a couple of ads, which I didn't do. So I'm going to do that now. And then we'll jump back on to another angle of today's discussion. So the first one I have here is, oh yeah, I think it's the conscious health one, right? Yeah, conscious.

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Like obviously Fox News is just pushing like pro-war propaganda like they did during the Bush administration. They're not they're not offering any discerning analysis at all or compelling analysis at all. but CNN is actually noticing this epic flurry how Trump's words in Iran have yo-yoed over three weeks of war and I'll just read the first few sentences over the course of nearly a month since the first U.S. strikes on Iran. President Donald Trump is yo-yowed from demanding unconditional surrender to teasing a possible detente. Confusion has become a mark of this war. So they notice that. They're noticing that. Now they're of course spinning it as like Trump has no controller of the situation and he has no idea what he's doing. But I also want to just offer this little one-minute clip of a discussion, I guess, from some show on CNN. My anticipation is that we're heavily influential to them. We don't run them and they don't run us. We're allies, but they don't control us. And I don't know that we're necessarily control them. We're the senior partner. They're the junior partner. We have the weapons. We give them the weapons. We're funding this war. We're the great power. They're our client state. So in theory,

we should be able to have more than a 50% say whether American blood and treasurer spent to perpetuate this war for months and months. And it's pretty clear from what President Trump said today that the war, he wants to get out very soon. He keeps saying he wants to get out very soon. And it's pretty clear from what Netanyang said today that he doesn't want to get out very soon.

So both of those people can't win. One of them's going to be right and one of them's going to be wrong. So who's going to win that disagreement? Is it going to be Trump and we're going to end the war soon? Or is it going to be BB? And the war is going to go on for a very long time. Both of them can't be right, Scott. In the end, we're going to find out who really wears the pants in this bromance.

Yeah. So what's interesting about that, obviously that guy, you can tell from what he's saying, he doesn't like Trump. And he's trying to basic, he's, you know, he's clamping down. He's taking the bait on the Trump as an Israeli puppet. And again, I think the reason that these people are doing this is because they see it as a wedge issue. They see it as, this is the attack vector to separate Trump from his base. If Trump's base, which we're already seeing happen, if Mag. feels like they've been betrayed and they've been hoodwinked and Trump actually isn't one of us

and he's actually, this is all one big bait and switch for the deep state to implement, you know, whatever, agenda 2030. Or even if that's not true, if they can convince people that it's true, people will stop supporting Trump and then Trump will be isolated and left by him, like left alone without public mandate. That's why they're leaning. It's a game theory thing. That's why they're leaning into that.

It's not because they're honest or actually worried about, you know, the American people. Of course, Fox News is not offering any of that. analysis. However, that is the exact same analysis that you're hearing right now from Joe Kent and from Steve Bannon, who are both ostensibly, in their own words, pro-Trump. So the people who have positioned themselves closest to Trump, I mean, Joe Kent has resigned, but he has yet to say one bad thing about Trump in his entire media tour. He has not disparaged Trump at all. He's actually said multiple times, Donald Trump's the only person who can fix this. He has a unique personality. He's the only person who will fix it.

Joe Kent seems to think that he will. All of his criticism has been directed at the State Department, Israel, and others in the administration, the CIA, et cetera. And it seems to me like looking at Carrie Prasjean Bowler, who I saw her interview with Tucker, absolutely despicable and disgraceful what these religious zealots have done to her. It seems to me like we are watching the celebrity apprentice season 14. not even kidding when I say that. I've never watched that show when it was on, but I did watch a few episodes to prepare for a book of Trump episode that I did on it. And what I noticed is that I was surprised because I thought the show was going to be all about like business acumen and like Trump

trying to find someone who's really good at business. And he didn't, he wasn't interested in that at all. He didn't care about your business acumen. The only thing he cared about was how do you handle pressure? Like if I put you in a high pressure situation and then I, and then I, and then, I twist the screws on you and I, and I, like, emotionally compromise you. Can you keep your composure or do you wilt and collapse in that moment? And whenever people would wilt and collapse, Trump would come down on them, like, in the most, like, hardcore rebuke of them and be like, you're a disgrace get out. Like, I want nothing to do with you. And the people who, like, would make mistakes and screw up, if they could stand up and, like, vehemently defend themselves and, like, maintain their composure, Trump would give them a second or third chance because he would say, you're,

a killer, like you have the it factor. If you, if you're, if you can't defend yourself in a situation like this, how are you going to defend me if I send you into a meeting on my behalf? You know, like that was his logic. And now I think what we're seeing is we're seeing a situation where Trump has put certain people in his administration. One of them would be Mike Huckabee. I've gone through that. One of them would be this Paula White character who is an absolute court jester clown. There's no way that Melania Trump looks at her. Oh, yeah, she's satanic. Yeah, she's absolutely satanic. She is absolutely a demon-worshipping Satanist, for sure.

But putting her and Carrie Prasjean Boller on the same panel, like the same religious liberty panel, I think Trump knew exactly what was going to happen, which is exactly what did happen. And all you have to do is go listen to the first 10 minutes of the Tucker interview with Carrie Prasjean Boller. And she explains that she met Trump in 2009 when she did the Miss America pageant. And she stood up famously as Miss California and said, I think marriage is between a man or the woman.

Like no offense to the gays, but that's what I think. And then when she was forced to go on a media tour to apologize, she went on the shows and said, double down and say, I apologize for nothing. This is my personal belief. It's my religious belief. And it is what it is.

And she said that Trump brought her in his office afterwards and was like, you are a rock star. Like, because you spoke the truth when you knew that the consequences, the cost would be very high. What do you want to do with your life now? Like, what show do you want to be on?

Do you want to be a Fox News anchor? I can make anything happen for you at this point. And she's like, I just want to go be a mom. Like, I want to write a book. If you can help me, like, promote that, that'd be great. But I don't, I don't want to do any of that. I just, like, I don't want to be a TV character. I want to just go be a mom.

And so Trump knew she was principled and knew that she was willing to say the, like, speak the truth, even when everybody, like, the world was against her. He put her on that panel so that her and Paula White would go head to head. And all this would blow up. And then the public focus would become on that discussion. And I kind of think he put Pete Hegseth in that same boat. Because if you look at what, like just look at these two clips. This is from the past like two or three days.

Here is Trump on Monday in Memphis. Listen to this comedy next about Hegseth. I called Pete. I called General Kane. I called a lot of our great people. We have great people. And I said, let's talk. We got a problem in the Middle East.

We have a country known as. Iran that for 47 years has been just a purveyor of terror and they're very close to having a nuclear weapon. We can keep going and get that 50,000 up to 55 and 60 is no end. Or we can take a stop and make a little journey into the Middle East and eliminate a big problem. And Pete, I think you were the first one to speak up. And you said, let's do it because you can't let them have a nuclear weapon. So we are now having really good discussions. They started last night a little bit.

So the internet is running like ran amok with that and we're like he's blaming this all on Pete Hegsef. The very next day, I mean, there's no way Trump didn't see that analysis that the internet took that as him pinning it all on Hegsef and saying Hegsef is to blame for this war. The very next day during that same press conference, listen to what he says about Hegsef. You know, the only two people that were quite disappointed, I don't want to say this, but I have to. And I said, Pete and General Raisin-Kane, I think this thing's going to be settled very soon. Here they go, oh, that's too bad. Pete didn't want it to be settled. It's, these guys are doing a great job. That's a good attitude, though, Tom, right?

They were not interested in settlement. They were interested in just winning this thing. Again, he just, he just kind of like ousted Pete Hegseth as, you know, Pete Hegseth has, his whole career has been like, he's even admitted it, that he's like a neocom warmonger. And then he claimed that he had gotten over that and that he had, you know, he's like a recovering addict from being a neocomber. And yet Trump is sitting there consistently in multiple moments being like, this was Hegseth's idea. He didn't, he actually doesn't want to end the war. He wants to keep fighting. May or may not be true, but you got to imagine

that a guy like Hegsef, who was absolutely a television personality before he entered the administration has handlers. And he has people who are like putting their phone on the scale when it comes to his public opinions. So he's kind of put in this weird moment where it's like, is he going to sigh with Trump? Is he going to defy Trump in that moment and ruin his career and like and out in itself as like not actually MAGA? Or is he going to. going to defy his handlers and ruin his career because they're going to they're going to destroy him right which is what the the uh deep state does so again i don't know if i'm right or not but this definitely feels like we're watching the apprentice where trump is basically just putting good guys and bad guys

in the same room and then letting game theory happen and letting them kind of go head to head and like and there are all these people in the like the pro-trump world who are afraid to talk about this and They're afraid to criticize like elements and members of the administration because they think that they're criticizing Trump. I actually think Trump did all this because he wants the criticism. He wants the friction. He wants us to have these really, really tough, difficult conversations about religion, about foreign policy, about Forever Wars, you know, about Israel, about all of it. So that's we should do that. We should lean into that.

Yeah, I can get with that for sure. And I mean, I think the, when you look at the psychological profile of a of a Pete Hegseth or Paula White, they are of a very, very rigid, narrow worldview and identity. Like there's certain personality types that are kind of like automaton's. They're very predictable. They've got a core, very, very static, very, very obsessively fervent, almost fanatical, or not almost, very fanatical belief structure in a, in a, in a, it's, it's, it's, it's, artificial, but they believe it. They're willing to kill and die for their worldview. So they're predictable. They're like a wind-up doll in a sense. So you could kind of play with that or at least play that on a Kaboofi theater stage, knowing how they will react.

Also, as you pointed out, they have a sense of self-preservation as well. So that, you know, when a spotlight is put onto the truth, they wouldn't necessarily want to sabotage their career by saying, actually, you lied to me. You know, this is, or you're, you know, you wouldn't really resist what Trump is saying publicly or anything like that. Um, so that is, but you have to imagine that I can go along with that. Yeah. Yep.

Go. I'm sorry. Yeah. You have to imagine that because of those comments that Trump made every time Heg Seth steps up to the podium for the next few days or the next few weeks or whatever, he's going to be asked about that. Well, Trump said this about. you like what's your response and and again I think what a lot of people like to do is they like to

assume they like to assume that like Trump has this whole thing scripted out and is like handed out like scripts to everyone is like here's what you say here's what you say here's what you say I actually don't think that at all I think that a lot of this is just game theory and like Trump is putting these people in a position okay Pete how do you handle this like how do you compose yourself in this situation do you side with your handlers who want this war to happen or do you side with Trump and Maga who obviously don't want like a greater war to happen. But just leave it on him. And if he, you know, sink or swim, he either is going to say the right thing and do the

right thing or he's not. And if he doesn't, oh, well, like there are plenty of other capable people out there. But again, I see people in chat saying these people are interviewing for the Oval Office for 2028. Exactly. Exactly. Like this is the celebrity apprentice who wants to be potus in 2028. And maybe at the end of the show, at the end of the season, Trump.

just picks himself. And he's like, you know what? I'm just going to do POTUS because you all lose. You're all fired. That could be like an outcome. I think everyone's just way too in this mindset of like, well, Trump picked this person to be in his administration. So they must be like the most noble, perfect selection of all time. When I look at it more like I think this is this is like a television show where like a reality television show where Trump wants he wants the friction and he wants the public responding to the friction and having these conversations, shifting the Overton window to a place that it has never been before. Do you get the sense?

I get the sense, but do you share this or not that there is an intention to blow out the U.S. dollar? Yes, 100%. The Fiat, the Fiat of U.S. dollar. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So with that, that acceleration. towards the blowout of the U.S. dollar, whether that's hyperinflationary or whatever,

I'm not really too sure. What sort of collateral damage do you think would be likely in that transition period going from the collapse phase, the breakdown of the system, and then the reset and bringing online after a new reset of a healthier system, which I'm thinking you think, you're you're looking at. What sort of collateral damage do you expect? Well, that's a great question. So here is an article that Chris Paul sent to me, I think it was yesterday. This is from the Financial Times of London, which is, you know, according to Steve Bannon, the paper of record for the Davos crowd, for the World Economic Forum, this is like their official mouthpiece. And the headline is Iran says non-hostile ships can transit straight

of Hormuz, Tehran tells IMO member nations that vessels must coordinate with it to pass through vital waterway. If you scroll down to the bottom, it says right here. Iran's parliament is preparing to introduce new regulations governing traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, according to MP Mansour Ali Mardani. The proposal remains at an early stage and must first be reviewed by the parliament's legal department before being represented or being presented to the MPs. It would then require approval by a majority to become law. Quote, Iran has always pursued a policy of international cooperation in the Strait of Hormuz, but mounting pressure from illegal sanctions has led the Islamic Republic to temporarily

restrict cargo passage in order to demonstrate its capacity in managing global energy transit. Ali Mardani told Mir news agency in Tehran, he explained that the plan had two components, quote, first, to reciprocate the actions of the countries that supported the U.S. sanctions against Iran and second to shift transactions from the U.S. dollar to alternative currencies. So the two things that I hear there is number one, like you just said, you know, trying to take out the U.S. dollar, right? But the first one is actually the one that interests me more because what he's saying there is he's calling out the sanctions. And what I think is actually going to happen here is I think we're going to see OFAC go away. So OFAC, for those who aren't familiar,

I've mentioned it many times on many of my shows, the Office of Foreign Asset Control. Anytime you hear about sanctions against like an individual, a country, anything, it is being implemented by the Office of Foreign Asset Control, which is an office within the U.S. Treasury. And that is, in my opinion, the enforcement mechanism for the Rothschild Central Banking System. because anyone who is a part of the Rothschild central banking system can be can have these measures enforced upon them because they're a part of the same banking system that the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve effectively control, right? And Gustavo Petra, the Colombian president, by the way, has been saying for months that that OFAC needs to go away ever since he met with Trump. He was like, you know, I talk to Trump about OFAC and how much of an issue that is and how really world peace and the golden age. and real prosperity is being stifled by OFAC

and what it does to developing nations. He's like, if we got rid of OFAC and we stopped putting sanctions on people when they didn't cooperate with what the US wants to do, I think not only would we see more peaceful, like alternatives like diplomacy emerge, but we would also just see a general cohesion. Like people would start getting along a lot more

and there'd be less war. And again, I think he's seeding narratives about, You know, I think there's a little bit of subtext there with like the Rothschilds and the banking system and how all wars are banker wars. But that's what's interesting to me is getting away from OFAC. I think the Federal Reserve is absolutely being targeted for destruction. I think everyone is in agreement that, I mean, most people are in agreement that I've seen, even like the mainstream analysts, that what we have right now with the fiat dollars is not sustainable. We can't keep doing it. There has to be something different.

There has to be, we have to figure out a new currency. The U.S. dollar needs to be pegged to gold or Bitcoin or something so that people can't just go in and turn on the money printer and just print money and like hyperinflate the currency, which is what they've been doing for decades. So I think that OFAC is going to get targeted in all this. And I think that the U.S. fiat dollar is going to get targeted as well. So here's, yeah, thank you for that. And I, yeah, you brought the OPEC back into focus. I hadn't really been thinking about that so much.

And that's true that that's a big weapon or a big factor in the weaponization of the U.S. dollar and empire. So that's, that's a good point. And I forgot that Petro had even met with Trump and talked about that after the meeting is demolishing that. That's good. I guess the thing that concerns me, is that what gives value to an economy isn't so much like, or to a currency, I should say,

isn't so much the particular metal, the silver, the gold, the Bitcoin, the, it could be really tied to popsicle sticks at the end of the day. It's what gives value to it is, is your society physically, does it have goals to make things better, to do things that meet the physical needs of people that include the physical body, the water, the water, the, food systems, the health, the electricity requirements, the metabolic activity of the human body as a species, right, which requires energy to, like our body takes food, burns it into, into, you know, into, into potential for that can be actualized for carrying out work to sustain all of our organs, all of our cell turnover, all of the things we need to do to function day to day. but the human body is a as a as a as a as a globe also has a an analog to that in the form of burning

uh coal oil natural gas uranium you know whatever and that that sort of sustains things and if you're doing things as a policy wise that support and improve upon those things also including of course the spiritual needs the aesthetical needs the the rindee the creative needs that allow to make or encourage. You're getting super laggy. I don't know if it's just me or if it's the audience. We'll notice that, but you're like freezing up and your sound is cutting out pretty bad. I don't know if you can still hear that.

Your video's frozen, but I can hear you. Hmm. Try, try backing out. Yeah, no, it is my. It is my internet. It is my internet. No. Yeah, yeah, the chat's saying that you're glitching pretty bad.

There it is. Okay. All right, so we'll wait for Matt to come back in. I think we might have, we do have another ad read. So we'll go ahead and do another ad read. And that'll get, that'll hopefully he'll be back by the time. We are back from that. I don't say this lightly.

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All right. Sorry, if you could repeat like the last 20 seconds of what you were saying. Based on all those things, without a vision that people perish. And the thing that gives value to currency is always, does your society have the vision? Does it have a plan for the

future that's multi-generational? You know, the transcontinental railway, for example, was one of those crash science programs that gave vitality and organization. So that it, to that society and in the 1860s, 70s, as we saw it, in America in the wake of the Civil War. And that's also why I like the Belt and Road Initiative so much as an idea because it's so

grandiose, you know, it's based upon meeting, you know, building up real requirements for high quality energy, you know, building big rail corridors, high speed, next generation stuff. So all of that that sort of is based upon a concrete idea of the future that you're working towards whereas in the west so far i'm just i'm not seeing anything analogous to that from trump as far as an idea the the sorts of things that i saw coming out of jfk's policy visions for continental water energy space in it with a with a concrete programmer or lincoln earlier i just see that with the military like with the you know where where i do see a vision for the future it seems to be things like they just announced palantir is going to fully integrate with the u.s military as their their

you know, Palantir providing an AI infrastructure under this, what is it called the, the Maven program integrating with the Pentagon and all these private contractors that are going to be using this program for also Open AI. GROC AI is also integrating with the military. I see that. The elimination of moral regulatory control grids, you know, there's a big move to remove those. Data centers for things that look like, you know, something a little dystopic, especially when I look at who's running these things like Larry Ellison from his Oracle AI operation, who's just been announced today as part of this 15-person body that. Yeah, I was just going to say that.

Yeah, like that's that or it's not just him, right? It's also Mark Zuckerberg is on that, that group. I mean, look, look at this list. It's a terrible list. President Trump announces appointments. The president's council of advisory on science and technology. This was an executive order he signed last year where he, I think this is it right here.

It was signed on January 23rd, 2025. So three days after he came into office and this kind of lays out what all of their, you know, what their purview is. But then today he actually cast the characters on this thing. It is David Sacks and Michael Kratios are co-chairing it. That's concerning. Then you have Mark Andreessen, Sergei Bryn, Safra Katz, Michael Dell, Jacob DeWitt, Fred Ersum, Larry Ellison, David Friedberg, Jensen Huang, John Martinez, Bob Mungard, Lisa Sue, and Mark Zuckerberg. So I don't know who everyone on that list is, but the people that I do know, that's extremely concerning.

But again, like this feels like the apprentice, the celebrity apprentice Silicon Valley, like, okay, simps, like which one are you is going to fight the hardest to get your little contract with the Pentagon? I don't know. But ostensibly at surface level, yeah, this is extremely concerning. I mean, these are not people that I trust to run our, to run our country, certainly our science and technology. Yeah, no. And especially like I was looking a little bit into Larry Ellison's Oracle. You know the name Oracle itself actually came out of a, I didn't know this until I just looked at this last night. Its origins were in the 19 late 60s with DARPA and the CIA. And it was Larry Ellison's first gig when he was just starting out. He had this company called the software development labs. And it was hired by the CIA to build a rational database, which was code named Oracle. And, uh, this became the technological basis with what they built up at this oracle thing in the in the late 60s and early 70s became the basis of of all formations of global databases that was used in like IBM, Microsoft, Apple, everything else throughout those years. And also it founded the basis. It was working with another DARPA project with the CIA called Meta Dendrel, also set up in the 60s and 70s at Stanford University, which seems to be kind of this. this hub of control that's tied to Esselin in the whole new age movement.

This metadendril program, this is like the first AI program. It was the pioneer machine learning system to identify, but they're using it for like chemistry or something originally. But this is the first iteration of what became the thing today that we're calling artificial intelligence. And that meta program seems to because now Zuckerberg, when he changed the name from Facebook, or he created a parent company meta. People were wondering what he's talking about.

And it seemed like his whole metaverse idea, it's kind of gone sour, right? Like it was a bubble, $80 billion invested. It was crap. Nobody liked it. It was very rigid. So it's pretty much acknowledged that that failed. But now meta is announcing that they're going to be doing, they're going to be expanding now to a more generative AI interactive operation.

So they're sort of going through the shift where they want to have like AI, powered wearables and you know an AI blending with like a reality virtual reality more blend of augmented reality is there new like focus so you could customize your your ecosystems make it more fluid make your your NPC characters and avatars are organized by like large language models so that it feels like you're talking to a real human being more directly instead of just some stiff you know personality construct in a video game it'll feel like you're actually talking with Whoa, what do you got there? Wait?

This just happened. This is Melania Trump walking out with the first American-made humanoid AI robot. Okay. Yeah. Yes. So, I mean, look, they're like new technology is rolling out. Like new technology is 100% rolling out. And it's either being rolled out by the white hats or it's being rolled out by the black hats.

That's my concern, right? Yes. I agree. Technology is great. I love technology. I love these things. Automation and machine learning. This is all good stuff.

I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm not a Luddite. But my concern is that this, the, yeah, like you said, is it, it seems to be those same agencies in the CIA and the military industrial sector that did all of this damage to bring us to this place that killed John F. Kennedy and his brother and Martin Luther King that transformed the U.S. alchemically into this beast throughout the 80s and 90s that I never saw it. I never saw those operators get their justice. I see them instead behind a lot of those things, which is causing me, my big concern is on those fronts, you know? For sure.

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Let's go to the prosaimo. I can see the programmer is just stressing out if they can like, don't glit. Don't glitch. Don't glitch. Don't glitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like everything you say, I think, I think, I mean, we've talked about this so many times at Gart with, you know, because there's obviously a lot of anxiety and fear about the future. Like any time that major revolutions happen. And we are going through like an industrial revolution right now. Like a technological revolution is here. Whether or not you want to confront that, whether or not you want to be a part of it, whether or not you want it to happen, it's happening. You can't stop it. And so the question is, who's going to have their, who is going to have control over this new technology that is emerging? Because if the wrong people have control over it, then the world's not going to change.

In fact, the world's going to get much worse in terms of a dystopian hellscape. But do I think that these people right here are qualified or should be allowed to be in charge of this new emerging technology? No, I don't. Do I think they will end up being in charge of it? don't want I want to think they won't be. But again, I think that this is a contact sport. Like, I think this is a, this isn't like a sit on your ass and watch and like just have your eyes glaze over and just, you know, watch this all unfold in front of you. This is supposed to be like a participation. Like our participation in this is absolutely critical. And us like voicing our

opinions on this, our concerns, our anxieties, are, are, you know, what we aspire for. for like what we want our desires like what is our outcome what is our goal i think that's all critical to this uh and we should do that from a position of um stoicism we should do that from a position of like calm not from a position of like being emotionally like you know geared up and and highly emotional and highly uh compromised emotionally um because ultimately if you look back at the things that trump was doing in the first whatever six to eight months really throughout the whole first year he was putting all these trade deals in place that was that were encouraging economic entanglement and we saw this by the way happening with

the Saudis and the Russians and the Chinese throughout the Biden administration where they were going around the world negotiating bilateral trade agreements and creating economic entanglement and economic entanglement leads to soft war and soft war the paper put out by um jason law from the U.S. military states that if you have deep economic entanglement, then kinetic warfare is disincentivized. Because if I have a bunch of, if I have billions or trillions of dollars invested in your economy, and I own assets in your economy or I have a vested interest in how your economy operates, or, you know, my, like I have a ton of Bitcoin that's tied to my treasury and you have a bunch of Bitcoin like data mining like mining operations. If I go and blow up those mining operations,

the price of Bitcoin comes down and I lose money. Like I you know, right the same with same with the economic entanglement. If I blow up one of your cities and I have a trillion dollars invested in that city or whatever, $100 billion, whatever it is, you're doing self-immolation, right? Yeah, it's like I've now lost like I've just I've just cut off the nose to spite my face. So what? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, that that is how. I think the golden age happens. It doesn't mean there's not going to be conflict. It doesn't mean there's not going to be other forms of warfare. But if we can eliminate the mass, the mass murder, like the mass genocide, you know, like nuclear threats. Because again, who wants to drop a nuke

on a city if you have billions of dollars invested in that city or that country? No one's If you're religiously motivated alas sulfur-wise to believe that religiously that a mass sacrifice of humanity or at least 95 or so percent would be desirable for some divine purpose, that's problematic. And it wouldn't be necessarily like you wouldn't really care if all of, you know, if assets are wiped out and personal. Like there's a lot, there's a lot you would, you would permit. But I agree with you for the vast, vast majority of human beings who don't think that way and think in terms of a basic common sense self-interest, you're correct. And I totally agree with that, that approach. I just think that, you know, on a higher level, like that's when I look at the game theory in mesh, like entanglement thing, it's, it's true on a lower order of like primal survival, like instincts. like to expand people's sense of self-interest to be more than their local area,

but to be tied to increasingly, like they have to be educated that your self-interest is tied to the welfare of what's going on in Nigeria or people living in Vietnam. Like that's not self-evident. That's something we learn how to, how is that true logically? And then how do we grow our feelings into our knowledge? So we create that knowledge space. Okay, I get it on a logical level, but I still don't care. you know, what, what, that's what a lot of people would say, right? It's like, I get on a logical level that

the well-being of people living in, uh, in China or South Korea is tied to me somehow and I get it like there's these supply chains, but I honestly don't care about them that much. I just, so for like that first step in learning how to grow the heart bigger beyond the, the limited scope of our, of our, you know, um, sensual domain. Most people say like, I care about my, my family, my friends, my limited entourage, that's who I care about. I don't care about anything else. But that's kind of like an immature level of humanity. That has to grow if you're, you know, through learning, through action.

And so what you're saying is I think good for that first phase, that entanglement to get people to that place where they could at least see, okay, it's not, I don't care if these places get wiped out, but I'd rather not because it would hurt me too. So I'd rather just try to find an off ramp to something that would result in a nuclear war. But then on a higher level, like following the thoughts of like St. Augustine and the greatest Christian theologians, you know, there is this natural law that God created all of us in a divine way, even though we have different cultures and different ways of trying to figure out how do we relate to God, you know, that's come from our different cultural experiences. We're still trying to figure out the same objective universe created by the creator that we're a part of. So in that sense, we do have like this positive mission in the universe as well, right, on a higher level to realize that, okay, it's not just to have personal self-interest that we avoid war, but we know that justice and peace is better because it helps us become happier, better, more creative people on a more positive level with a common mission.

So it's not just like an absence of war, but it's like a positive self-replenishing mission on a more mature level. But I agree with you again that on a just primal basis, at the very least, entanglement economically is good in that sense, if it's done well for the right reasons. It's not to enmesh people like putting out a net into the into the ocean to catch fish the way the oligarchy has been using economics to try to like get people into the net of globalization so that they would be stripped of their ability to have industry and to have economics. sovereignty so that they would just all be homogenized in this like, you know, blender of oneness, which was devoid of morality, values, you know, gender. That's a bad in measurement. We're talking about the healthier kind of cooperation. So, yeah, I get that.

Yeah. But what you said is spot on. And I think that we need to be aware, like when you say that people really care about their family and their community and they don't really care what's happening beyond that, I think you're right. That's a natural human, like that's human nature. You know, like I look at God number one and then family and then, you know, community. But we also have seen this really, really kind of dark development where people are super invested in the world. They're super invested in saving the world, but they have no personal

relationships in their life. Like at the cost of destroying all their family relationships and their personal relationships, but they're going to save the world because of this virtue, this idea of like chasing virtue, right? And that leads to like virtue signaling and that leads to all that crap that we've seen over the past 15 years, which is just so nauseating. And again, I think all of that stuff is rooted in a lack of religion and a lack of spirituality, like in a lack of a connection with the one creator, God. And so I think like a revolution, like a spiritual revolution is the only way that you bring this. thing back on track and away from like the satanic dystopia that many of us fear could potentially

happen and so how do you how do you catalyze that that's the question how do you catalyze a spiritual religious revolution where people are not forced to adopt one specific religion necessarily because i think that you know that's that sort of tyranny is always going to lead to resistance which will actually lead to people rejecting that doctrine um i think you have to basically find the most divisive, controversial topic that you're not allowed to talk about as it relates to that genre, that topic, and you need to break it wide open, break the seal, and everyone needs to start talking about it. And that issue in America is Israel. And our relationship with Israel and what Israel actually is and what it actually means to us and to, like, as Christians

and all of that. Because I personally think that Christian Zionists are the the most sciop demographic in the world. I think they're the most, I don't want to say brainwashed, but I would say that they're the most misled because they've been, they're just layers and layers and layers. There is such a large investment in what they think. And I think that Christian evangelicals probably make up the base of like the MAGA movement, like the core Trump base. And so if those people believe that we are on a holy crusade against the Middle East and in its, Islam is like the great Satan and we need to kill as many Muslims as possible in order to best serve our God and best serve Jesus, that's a very advantageous sciop to have run against

the Christians from the from the Satanist standpoint. And so breaking that that open and severing that connection between the Satanists and the Christian Zionists who adopt that worldview. Because that of course is not Christianity. It's not Jesus at all. That is critical. If we don't if we don't reverse course on that then America has no shot in the future because it doesn't matter how much technology you develop it doesn't matter how many trade deals you sign or how much diplomacy you engage in if we lose our connection to God then it's all going to become dystopian eventually that is very well said that is very well said and I hope that the uh the Pola whites out there are are exercised fast and that the uh the uh the

This holy water runs its course of, I mean, there's definitely, there's definitely people melting down. Like, the perceptions of a reality that they thought were true for their entire lives are quickly demonstrating to be false. And we're seeing that erupt in a variety of ways. And that, that's painful in some ways to realize your identity is founded upon a ton of fallacies. But it's a healing process. It's like medicine is not always going to be sweet and tasty, you know. know, but it's, it's, there's a, there's a benefit to, uh, taking the pain, leaning into it and then finding a more firm soil, a firm foundation upon which a healthier. And it doesn't mean

everything about our old selves is wrong. It doesn't mean everything about our relationship to, we discovered that, oh, our idea of my idea of what I thought my Christianity was is heavily contaminated by British imperial grand strategists and Darbyites and, you know, cultists. Okay. It doesn't mean everything was bad. it just means there's some corrective self-examination that needs to be made, you know, this cutting out the wheat from the chafe, and then having your Christianity found it upon something way healthier because of that discovery of the blemish, which is great. It's not a bad thing at all.

So, and also your point, too, I really liked it, that these extremes are always bad. People sometimes will get to, as I was saying, locked into a very localized tribalist concern of their identity and self-interest at the, expense of humanity and some people will get into a totally abstract human like must save humanity ideology and have no ability to cultivate any type of relationships any type of love of people in their immediate world and those extremes never work out at all. Always a recipe for disaster. So to be able to balance both at the same time is really, really the key.

Like that's the agape concept, you know. Agape is not something you could just jump from from. one to a thousand, agape is something that grows, the general love of humanity. It's not something that you could just get the way like, I guess, will George Soros activists only care about Gaia and saving the earth and social justice for every, but they don't realize that they didn't take the time to love themselves or love anybody around them.

They just went straight intellectually into that and became a weaponized tool to be used to burn down your society. They're sociopaths because they have no personal connection in their life. they don't understand like human emotion or like human connection or love or any of that. And so because they're because they're totally devoid of that, that's what makes them wittingly or unwittingly sociopaths. And I think that's that's the cancer that we really have to like exercise from excise from our, from our society, which is part of a bigger cancer.

The bigger tumor, of course, is just Satanism in general, which comes in many forms. It's not just, you know, the guys with horns on, you know, who are like, dancing on stage in Hollywood, like painted red. Like that's the cartoonish version of it. I think it comes in many forms. It comes in the form of Christianity. I mean, there are Christian pastors who I think are Satanists who may not even think of

themselves as Satanists, but they are leading people away from God and from the actual teachings of Jesus. And I think it's very perverse. I think it's really sick. And it becomes really clear when you go listen to, when you go listen to Carrie Prasine Bowler, talk, like tell her story about what's happened to her over the past year. Suffering at the hands of people in the White House and suffering at the hands of people who

Trump himself appointed, I think it becomes very clear of what we're up against and what this thing in front of us, the Trump administration actually is. And I think we should be willing to engage earnestly and honestly with it and just be prepared to deal with whatever happens and not just like not along and accept whatever we're told as a you know fact or the truth yeah well said so with that uh i noticed that while i was my my internet sabotaged me you had played one or two ads do we have any more ads to play or did you get through them all um did we do i think there was the the gart announcement yeah yeah yeah i don't think we did gart so let's let's talk about gart all right let me run that. There's an actual video

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Yeah. Looking forward to checking that one out online. I won't be able to be there physically, though. Yeah, we'll miss you. But speaking of building community and getting and like connecting with people like these guards, that's exactly what happens. Because we see a lot of the same people come, like will come to multiple guards. It tends to shake out like a 60-40 split or a 50-50 split where we'll have like 60%

new, 40% returning, 50% new, 50% returning, something like that. It's a pretty healthy, I think, split there. And actually, like, when I, a lot of times, Matt, when I'm doing a show by myself, this has happened a few times in the past couple days, I will, like, mute myself, like, play a video, and then I'll come back and speak for, like, five minutes. I'll mute. And because I don't have a co-host to tell me that I'm not, that, like, I'm muted. Like, and then I'll look at the chat and everyone's screaming that I'm muted.

But what will happen is people will text me, and they'll be like, hey, you're muted. And the people who text me, if it's not one of the other Badlands hosts, who happens to be watching my show, it'll be somebody from Gart who's like, I've exchanged numbers with. And like, they'll text me and be like, hey, dude, like you're muted. So it's like we, like you come to Gart. You generally do like make connections, make friends. And yeah, like the sense of community is 100% there. So I would encourage people to either attend in person if you can or sign up for the virtual ticket. You'll get plugged into the telegram chat and then through the telegram chat you can I'm sure Bunny will be there in

Nashville but Bunny she's here in Virginia she like she runs all of the different telegram groups you know there's a group for like every state and so you can actually get connected to people bad land bad lander badlanders from your local area and then they do like meetups on their own it's all autonomous like none of it's run through us but um bunny uh takes it on herself to help connect people to those groups. And then like you can meet up. You can, you know, they get together for drinks. They get together for dinner. Um, and obviously you can organize politically if you, if need be, when those moments arise. So, uh, this is how I think you do the revolution. Like you take

back the country. It doesn't happen all at once. It's not one foul swoop. It takes time. It takes time. But anything that's worth building takes time and effort. Yeah, it's like the, uh, the Ben Franklin committees for correspondences that were that were, that he built. up over decades and decades from the 1730s onwards that made it possible to create a climate in which a positive conspiracy could emerge in the United States where formerly there wasn't there wasn't that much to work with when he was a young man. So he had to build up these these communities of self-organizing leaders that would then be able to then just generate from within themselves the type of capabilities that they didn't

have before they took the leap. And what's Cannecon saying? Go to Gert. Go to Gart, you can ask Ghost for his number. He might even take a nap on you. Oh, yeah, there's even a calendar, right? There's a calendar of a ghost. There was a calendar.

There was a calendar. There was a calendar conditions, uh, sleeping on different people's shoulders. Yeah. And, yep. And I think they actually turned it into an emoji in the, uh, on Rumble. Like, I think if you go into the Rumble chat and you pull up the emojis, there's an emoji now of me sleeping. So it is, yeah, like, and again, all this fun happens at Gart.

It's now part of the zeitgeist. All right. That's right. That's right. Just quickly, I wanted to just address this one question that I just saw pop up in the chat here. Somebody just asked me when I was going on my little rant before about, what is my definition of this society that I'm talking about with this vision and how is it different from communist central committee?

I just, what I just mean is any type of society that doesn't have like an idea of the future that it meets objectively true needs is not going to go anywhere. You will flounder and without a vision they perish as it has been said in the Bible. and that's just whatever form it takes, you have to have a vision of where you want your kids, what kind of world you want your kids to live in. And there's an example of either JFK's vision for, you know, a space program or, you know, you could look at the type of New Deal policies that we saw, you know, built based on the idea that, okay, we have swamp, backwater swamps in Tennessee and the former Confederate South.

there's low life expectancy, there is a lot of hydro potential, but there's no dams. There's not a lot of education, so there's not a lot of workers. There's a lot of illiteracy, like, you know, 80% illiteracy in a lot of these like backwards southern state areas in the 1930s and 40s. So that's got to change. How do you change it? You can't just put a magic wand. You say, okay, let's do feasibility studies.

Let's get the engineers to figure out where the water systems can be harnessed in the form of hydroelectric power, flood controls. let's create trade schools to give people the means to build those things because we don't have the workers to do that. So let's give them the skill sets. And that requires thinking five to 10 to 20 years in the future if you're going to be doing that. And then that resulted in by 1950, 80, no, 89 percent literacy amongst a lot of these areas of the Tennessee Valley Authority area. And it became an aerospace hub because of the abundant cheap hydroelectric power that made building aluminum. and working with aluminum very affordable, which is formally, it takes a lot of electricity

to get the, to turn aluminum out of, or to get aluminum out of album. So same things. You know, you have to just look at places where we've had a vision. And I would say the success of the Belt and Road initiative has nothing to do with communism. It's just that it's a good idea. And whatever type of society is in place to manifest that idea, you do it. So if it's capitalism, you just, you do it in a capitalist way.

But you make sure that the nation state plays a role. the sovereign nation state plays a role and is not castrated the way the globalization fanatics have told us that if we want to do capitalism, we cannot have planning, we can't have protective tariffs, we can't have a nation state playing any role, right? That's the British Empire fraud. And inversely for the reason why I think China is so effective is because they are not doing communism. Like nothing that they're doing right now fits communism.

There's massively growing entrepreneurial ship, private property. You know, once you pay for your house, you own your house, there's no property taxes or anything, but the small and medium businesses are flourishing. So you have markets, but markets that are organized around getting a job done. It's not just like each against all. So, you know, there's a balance of creative innovation and the state together, which I think they're doing in a more harmonious way than. we are currently doing it are we've been confused for a long time and we've been severed from thinking that we either have to be one extreme the other right all yeah the state and not about human freedom or only human freedom and not about the general welfare nothing collective so it's

like these these schisms don't work they create broken schism people who get very confused yeah i always think it's funny when people are like well we don't want to be like that country like whatever country it is China or Venezuela or whatever because they're they live under communism and I'm sitting here like wait a minute you don't realize that you live under like a huge regulatory state these alphabet agencies and you can't just go out and start a business because if you try to they're going to come to you and say well here all the licenses that you're going to need here all the permissions you're going to need here all the approvals you're going to need like dude I've worked in architecture and construction you can't even go build a medical facility without getting all the other medical

like hospital systems in the area to agree that we need this. And so how does like a new business, how does a new hospital system or a new like a new healthcare network emerge, a new company emerge if it requires the permission of every other competitor in the area? Like that doesn't make any sense, you know? So you think you live under a free market economy? I'm sorry, but you do not. You live under a highly regulated, highly controlled, state controlled economy that is totally fake. It's totally gay. And it's time for us to wake up to these realities and understand that the real communists are in the Republican Party. They're the ones who put all this stuff in place. Well said again. All right. I endorse that. All right. So I think with that, we've gone through quite a bit.

Any last thoughts or any questions from the audience before you we wrap it up? No, that's it. I'm going to be on at 2 o'clock. I'm going to be on CanCon. We just pull Cancons comment up. So I'm going to be on CanConn's show. That's on Cancans' personal rumble channel. I'll throw the link for that in the comments. But yeah, go check it out and see you live here in like 25 minutes. All right. Have fun, everybody.

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