Badlands Media - Breaking History Ep. 144: Trump's Joker Mask, Greater Israel & the Arc of Empire

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Matt Ehret and Ghost return to unpack a world that feels increasingly like a chessboard with too many players. They open with Matt's running map of "control scarcity," the quiet wave of refinery shutdowns and sabotage hitting Texas, Australia, Colorado, India, and Russia, and what that means for global energy and food supplies. From there, the conversation swings into the strange theater around Maria Corina Machado, Trump's Venezuela playbook being rerun on Iran, and the idea that Trump has donned a Joker mask to bait the warmongers into exposing themselves. The guys dig into Trump's reading of 2 Chronicles 7, the planned 250 foot Triumphal Arch in D.C., and its eerie lineage back through Napoleon and Titus, complete with Napoleon's 1801 promise to rebuild Solomon's Temple. Netanyahu's messianic complex, the animus toward Jesus baked into certain theological sects, devolution theory, the Southern Poverty Law Center indictment, and the House of Abraham project all get a turn. Professional, a little irreverent, and heavy on historical receipts.

The Badlands, one of the Badlands, explain those Badlands. That's a hell of their name. All right. Good. Good afternoon. All right. It was a bit of a stumbling intro there. The new intro is a lot shorter than the previous intro.

And so I thought I had as much times we used to have, but not so. Yes, yes. Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to Breaking History. It feels like it's been a while since we've gotten together. that's been happening a lot lately but um yeah and i need to get hold on one second yeah so today is april 22nd 2006 um what episode is this is this like episode 100 and we got to be on episode like 100 i think it's a i think it's a 143

good and 40th episode there you go there you go well uh yeah man it's great to see you how have you Ben. How was the travels? It was good. It went to Sweden, met some friends. So it wasn't, it wasn't too, to business oriented, but it was an interesting experience. So just happy to get back and dealing out the piles and piles of things on the to-do list that have grown, which is always what happens when you leave town for a few days. So yeah, how about how are you doing? I'm good. I'm good. You know, you know, things have just been. busy, but, uh, and there's a lot to just keep up with and track, but, um, very, very actually

encouraged by everything that's happening, um, despite some of the zeitgeist, uh, being negative. And I, I think there's a, I heard John talk about this the other day, but I think there's a lot like burnout and a lot of, uh, you know, there's a lot of, like, cynicism, burnout and, uh, fatigue that people are feeling. But, um, but, um, but yeah, I mean, we're, we will kind of unpack and talk about all that today. I did want to point out that today's episode is sponsored by Patriot Protect. And we'll do the full ad read here later in the show. But just wanted to give them a shout out. Go to Patriot-Protect.com slash history, promo code Badlands. And we'll give you the full details on them here in a bit. But big shout out to Patriot Protect. And thank you for sponsoring

today's episode. Yeah. So you know, you normally ask me, what I'm thinking and what I've been hearing and seeing. So today I will flip the script on you and ask you, what are you thinking? I'll share my thoughts as well, but what are you thinking? What are you seeing? And yeah, what are you noticing? Well, I've been mapping a lot the control scarcity. So for me, I've been trying to look objectively just at where is the reduction in production

and energy as well as all of the other basic necessity? So I'm concerned right now based on this array, you know, internationally since the early March period, late February. There has been a lot of these refineries going up and smoke, sabotage, shutting them down, three in Texas, the most recent one in Australia. One of the biggest ones. They used to be 10 actually in Australia about 20 years ago. Now it's down to two. Eight of the ten were decommissioned over the last 20 years by this whole depopulation orientation. So now one of the only two remaining ones just was shut down through sabotage.

India, Indonesia, there's massive refineries being disliked as well. Colorado, one was the biggest one just next to Denver that supplies all of Colorado's natural gas and energy was just decommissioned for no good reason except that it hit you know it hit some environmental it pissed some environmentalist off inside of the regulatory commissions at the the i don't know where i don't know where state or federal level five five were decommissioned in california and there's more i mean it's a big list russian uh refineries as well were attacked seriously damaged in drone attacks so there's again just a big reduction on top of top of what we're seeing with the chaos and the straight of Formuts. So I've been just mapping

that out a little bit to try to get a sense of like, where is the reduction of the means of supporting life on Earth being orchestrated? And it seems like a lot of this is coincident in my mind with the entire gambit in Iran. And it's a concern. I don't know if that's something you've been looking at, but it's for me a big depopulation program that seems to be orchestrated right now seems to be a big one yeah yeah i mean i definitely it seems to me and by the way um check your microphone make sure you're on the right mic um yes you might you might be on your computer mike that happens to me sometimes stream yard messes with that yeah you're totally correct that is exactly what happened um yeah so i would certainly agree with you that uh that um there's definitely a

a conflict of like narratives happening here, a conflict of between probably groups that are vying for control of these systems. And it's very clear like by the like I don't know if you saw this like Maria Carina Machado thing that happened on happened in Spain the other day. No. One minute. Let me see this. see I can pull this up. And there's something going on with the mic now. It's like squeaking. You're getting like a lot of squeaking from you.

I don't know if that's, I'm just giving you a heads up. I don't know if that's if you're on the right mic still. Man, this is the good mic. How's this quality sound coming? That sounds better. Yeah. Your quality is good. It's just like it's like you get a lot of like feedback.

There's like feedback or something. Reverberation. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, anyway. Okay, so CanCon and I were laughing about this yesterday on Ballin's Daily. But so there is some rally that happened in Spain. I think this is in Madrid. And Maria Carina Machado, who, you know, is the CIA cutout that was supposed to take over Venezuela after the CIA ran its color revolution there.

They're still trying to do that. And I looked around the information. battle space on online and all of these people were posting the exact same thing and a lot of these people were you know maga maga centric influencers people whose names you know this crowd would recognize his audience were recognized and probably believe them to be like earnest um you know voices in this populist movement but if you look at like what they're doing here the the copy pace that they're that they're doing is let's see

gosh it was like yeah here it is it's like holy shit tens of thousands of patriots just surging the Madrid for anti-left and pro Trump Maria Karina Machado of Venezuela communism is losing but it's every single one is like holy shit must watch breaking tens of thousands of royce okay AI AI bots are at it yeah I don't think it's all AI bots though because like their characters like this guy Eric

Doherty, so he has a million followers and he like fancies himself as like a, you know, like a MAGA influencer. There's a lot of characters like that. Real people. Yeah. I mean, quote unquote, real. So the point is is that like these networks I think have all been activated and I think it's becoming very obvious like who's aligned with this stuff and who's being paid, I think, under orders to post this stuff. And the point, again, of Maria Karina Machado, in my opinion, and this is just going back and looking at the totality of evidence, the full body of evidence, is that her purpose launched just a few years. I mean, she was launched in 2002, four years after Hugo Chavez came into power. Her whole purpose, I think, was to go into Venezuela, take over and then restore the oil rights to Conoco Philips, Exxon Mobil, you know, the Bush family. family, the Bush dynasty friends, like the friends of the Bush family. Like that's who I think she serves.

She serves like that group, like Langley, CIA, Bush dynasty, you know, that whole, that whole group. And so seeing that they're still desperately trying to install her and they're trying to convince Trump that she should be installed, Trump's like, yeah, she has no support. Like nobody knows who she is. Like nobody cares about her. She's, she's a nobody. you know, that is evidence to me that there is a conflict between Trump and the people in his direct orbit that they're not on the same page. Because the people who are pushing this woman are still like some of the people who we would think ostensibly are like Trump surrogates, Trump allies, people that are very close to Trump. And yet they are subverting him. They appear to be trying to subvert him like at every single step of the way. And more and more, it's like the whole removal of Nicholas Maduro is making a lot of sense now,

where they like remove Nicholas Maduro, kept the rest of the government in place. And now Trump's like, okay, everything's cool. Like we're friends with Venezuela now. They're our buddies. You know, the big bad villain is gone now. They're now, like he's called them our greatest ally a few times now. He said that we have a 10 out of 10 relationship with them. And yet, that doesn't seem to be good enough.

Like lifting all the sanctions, restored all diplomacy, opened up the American embassy. and yet that doesn't seem to be enough for whatever you want to call it, the GOP, I mean, the Republican establishment, the Uniparty, I'm so sick of trying to figure out a name to call these people. But Maria Carina Machado clearly is their agent, and they're still trying to install her. We're now seeing the same exact model, I think, unfold in Iran,

where... The shot is the Machado of Iran, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Pavlovy is definitely. the Mashado of Iran, but I think the, the, um, where that story arc has like followed what, you know, once I accepted that, okay, we're doing this Iran war narrative, like, you know, I didn't see that coming, but here we are. Um, you know, the, the expectation that I had, this thing is going to follow some form of a Venezuela model, understanding that the two countries

are very different and there's complexity and, um, and differences, of course. Um, what I expected to see as I expected to see a very controlled schedule where there would be like narrative escalation like Trump putting out his bombastic rhetoric, right, escalating the narrative, getting everyone ginned up, chumming the waters and the piranhas come in and everyone gets into a feeding frenzy. And then suddenly just rug pulling the whole thing and saying, all right, we're cool, like mission accomplished, we're done. You know, we're moving on. We're now going to work with the people in Iran and, you know, they're going to be a great ally now.

he's already started that rhetoric for the past two weeks he's been like even even in the week and getting up the ceasefire he he was saying like there are good people in iran that we've been talking to we're working with um and uh we're going to make something happen they want to make something happen we want to make something happen he's still putting out the bombastic stuff he's still putting out like the the um you know almost like the villainous stuff like he's almost i i said a long time ago that i think trump is kind of almost playing like the joker character now he played batman originally and that didn't work right quote unquote didn't work so now he's going to play the joker like now he's going to dawn like the villain mask he's going to become kind of the bad guy um and what that is done i think is number one is it's it's it's

it's kind of like shown an attack vector to the enemy like hey here's the attack vector we can separate trump from his base by leaning into the he is controlled by zionists he's controlled by israel um we can also, excuse me. Sorry, I had to plug my computer in. The other part of it is that I think he has whipped up all of this sentiment of like war with among the war mongers where they're like full bore. They are full bore war with Iran.

And then all of a sudden, it's over. Like he literally went on Monday, the day after Easter, from saying, we're going to nuke this civilization. That's effectively what he said. He said, we're going to annihilate the civilization. and also teased in the same speech that we might make peace with them. The next day announced a ceasefire with them. That was two weeks ago.

They said they have two weeks to figure out like a peace deal. And then before it expired yesterday, he puts out and says, I'm extending the ceasefire because there's so much disarray and so much disorganization. The way he's presenting it is that the power structure has collapsed in Iran and that there's now like infighting among these different factions to vying for control.

And he's like, I'm waiting for them to all organize themselves so we can negotiate. Meanwhile, I think what's really happened is they've engaged in the continuity of government protocol. And that's why they're all kind of operating independently. But the point is, though, is that while he's still kind of maintaining some of that antagonistic rhetoric, he's very clearly laying the foundation for this is over. like the whole thing's over he said multiple times the war is over meanwhile netting yahoo is like the war is not over we're still fighting like we've swam halfway across this river we can't turn back now there's no going back uh we're we're past the point of no return and again i think we're going to see the u.s exit

from this from this uh from the stage here and israel just plow forward with their greater israel project which they are absolutely are doing and um that i think has accelerated something that was probably going to play out in a much longer time scale. It also, the net effect of all of this is that now this whole, like, Iran is evil and we have to go to war with them narrative. Like, that whole story arc has come full circle. And, like, that can't be used again. I mean, just like the Venezuela thing can't be used. They can't come out and say, well, Venezuela is evil.

They have an evil government. So we need to oppose them. And we need to, you know, wage asymmetrical warfare against them. that's now, I think, going to be applied to Iran and to the chagrin and the dismay of the entire apparatus, the entire, like, uniparty apparatus. So, yeah, the greater Israel thing that coincides with the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple definitely plays in in a big way for sure. But I noticed that one of your recent posts on Telegram, you brought something to my attention that I hadn't really been paying attention to, which was the, this announcement that Trump, well, actually he had already read a certain passage from Genesis as part of this American Reads the Bible Week.

Last night. Yeah. Yeah, it was aired last night. I thought it actually took place live earlier, but maybe it was last night that it took place originally as the reading. It seems like to me it looks like he pre-recorded it and then it plays. I think what it is is it's like, I don't know if it's 24-7, but it's like they're reading the entire Bible.

So it's like celebrity, like guest speakers are coming in and like reading pastures from the line. Well, oh yeah, I see. I see. But Trump's team, what I found interesting is that like Pete Hecteth and Rubio and Susie Wiles and Trump have arranged to read through Genesis and Revelations. So the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end idea. Chronicles, right, was the second Chronicles, seven passages 11 to 22 were the specific selections that Trump had read. Do you look into those? Like, did you reread those?

Oh, yeah. I actually have it right here. If you want me to read it, I'll read it right now. Two Chronicles 7, 11 through 22, and I'll read it to you. It says, when Solomon had finished the house of the Lord in the royal palace, successfully carrying out all that was in his heart to do for the house of the Lord and for his own palace, the Lord appeared to him at night and said to him, I have heard your prayers and have chosen this place for myself as a house of sacrifice.

If I close the sky so there is no rain, or if I command, the locust to devour the land, or if I send a plague among my people, and if my people who are called by my name humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear them from heaven. Forgive their sin and heal their land. Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place, for I have now chosen and consecrated this temple so that my name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will be there for all time, And as for you, if you walk before me as your father David walked, doing all I have commanded you. And if you keep my statues and ordinances, then I will establish your royal throne as I covenanted with your father, David, when I said, you will never fail to have a man to rule over Israel.

But if you turn away and forsake the statues and commandments, I have set before you. And if you go off to serve and worship other gods, then I will uproot Israel from the soil. I have given them and I will banish from my presence this temple. I have sacrificed for my name. I will make it an object of scorn and ridicule among all the peoples. And when this temple has become a heap of rubble, all who passed by it will be appalled and say, why has the Lord done such a thing to this land and to this temple? And others will say, because they have forsaken the Lord, the God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt and have embraced other gods, worshiping and serving them, because of this, He has brought all this disaster upon them. Yep, very, very interesting, eh? And how to read that specifically, because one could read that from several different possible vantage points as far as what the intention is behind that particular selection within this particular moment in history where we know a lot of fanatics in Israel are really, really, really, really excited that now is the big, the big coming out party. And is he basically giving a message saying, like, you have now fallen Tel Aviv? You've basically fallen for the worship of those multiple, you know, Balian, Molokian deities that had been warned about earlier on in this particular passage.

Or is it something a little bit different? But one thing that I found interesting about this, too, is that it's coinciding with another thing that, was just, you know, there's this act of triumph, the triumphal arch that is going to be built according to plans pretty soon. There's a little clip it here from a news bit where the model was just unveiled. The actual physical model of what this 250 foot design is going to be in Washington, D.C., featuring, it's the, there's several of these triumphal arcs around the world, but this would be the biggest, were it completely. pleaded featuring like the two lines the base you know and uh one thing that's of interest

that I was looking at when that caught my attention was that that that's actually modeled on the Napoleon um acte triumph right in Paris yeah yeah and so that's a picture there of the Napoleon Arcteroyance which is where you have the different arrondisements and core avenues that all meets there's like 12 it's kind of done in the form of a sacred geometry in the in the center of Paris. And, you know, you have a bunch of amazes to various battles. Now, it was begun in 1806 by Napoleon. And he actually didn't come up with this design on his own either, right? He, this was modeled on an earlier similar structure in Rome called the Ark of Titus, or the Arch of Victory of Titus. And, and so when you go to the original one, that Emperor Titus,

set up in Rome, it looks like this. Pretty big. This doesn't really show the, it's not as big as the Octe Triumph in Paris. And that's not as big. That's like half the size of what the Washington one would be. But it's still pretty big. If you see those tiny little people down there at the base.

Mm-hmm. And that was originally finished. And I think it was 70, were commissioned in 71 by Titus. And that was in celebration of the victory of, of the Romans against the Jews in the Roman Jewish War. Really? Yeah.

I did not know that. Like, I'm familiar with this, with this site. Like, I'm not super familiar with it, but I know that it exists. I did not know that that's why it was commissioned by Titus. Yeah, the war itself was begun under Nero in 66. The same Nero that was like persecuting the Christians, you know, beheading. Yeah. Well, basically, yeah, just killing a shit ton of Christians.

Wow. Okay. This is actually one of the only surviving renditions of Romans looting the Solomon Temple, featuring the menorah there, a variety of things that were inside this Herod's Temple, Solomon's Temple, that was taken apart at the end of that war in celebration. So Titus basically said, okay, we're going to celebrate this by building this structure. So it definitely invoked a certain inflection moment. And we all know the psycho trauma embedded inside of the Jewish population at that moment that continued to be sort of a psychological switch to be used at different times, including the Barkhoppa rebellion in 135 quite later on or the attempts to work with Julian the apostate in 360 to rebuild Solomon's. temple then. Simon Barcukpa was the guy who called himself the Messiah of the Jews to lead a rebellion against the Romans in 135 to try to rebuild the temple. So this has been a recurring theme

used to weaponize the Jewish population at different moments. And one thing I was looking at within that context is that when Napoleon actually built this thing in 1806, you got to keep in mind, He had just only recently called him, inducted himself or made himself the emperor, not just of France. The idea was for him to be the emperor of a new age. And originally he was consul. So when he came to power, he was modeling himself after the French Revolution, which was chaos. It was a free Masonic directed chaos operation. He said, I'm going to be a Roman consul, which was like before Rome was an empire, it was still a republic.

And the people still had a Republican spirit. They admired the American Republican example that also was looking to the Roman Republic of Cicero and the pre-imperial system as their role model for creating a new type of society. And Napoleon said, okay, I'll be your consul. I'll be the Roman Republican principal, like principled leader that will usher in this better world. And then it didn't take them long to say, actually, you know what, I'm going to go for, I'm going to be the emperor instead. And as soon as he did that around 1800, he made a promise to the Jews, actually. He had a proclamation because he was doing a campaign in Egypt and Judea and made an open proclamation to rally the support of the Jewish population around a promise to rebuild Solomon's temple. And that's actually an open thing in 1801.

He published this. He created the Sanhedron of France. So he invited all of the leading rabbis to come to. to France, which they did, to build a French synhedron as part of the government. And the idea was to reconstitute a homeland of Zion for the Jews that would be peaked with his promise to build the temple. And that didn't follow through because he did lose a few battles. And that kind of got put on a different timeline.

But the proximity of that promise was just four years before this act of triumph was commissioned by Napoleon and it took it another like 30 years to finally build this massive structure. It came in many phases. But there's this ongoing continuity of policy that I find a very like just extremely interesting that ties into what we're seeing now today. Again, how to exactly read that specifically is questionable. There's an ambiguity in the narrative. But it's it's concrete.

It's something definitely worth pulling on, you know, and whether that means, we are going to build this up in order to have the, you know, the wayward Zionists pay the, pay the price of having not listened to the edicts of God to Solomon back in Chronicles, or whether it's, for the writings of Moses, or whether this is something involving a fulfillment of that plan. I don't know of the plan of actually building the temple in a positive way without sacrificing any any any uh Zionists I don't really know but it's definitely weird so I just wanted to hear those considerations there no no I actually really appreciate you doing that because I I did not make that connection between the triumphal arch I had assumed that there was some sort of symbolism the timing of it is is fascinating and then the fact that he read two chronicles I mean if you just go and you just read the words of like what he wrote of like what he read he's basically describing like what israel is doing right now he's like if you adhere to the commandments and if you you know do as i had commanded you originally um i will bless you and if you don't if you turn away and you turn to other idols and other other gods then i will curse you um and we see right now that there is just this bloodlust um that has swept over um the israeli government

And I think it's fueled mostly by the I think it's fueled by a few things I've said I've been talking about us for a while now, but I think Netanyahu has a mesionic complex like he has a Messiah complex that was imbued in him at a young age by the men around him, the founders of Israel, where he was going to be this this secular Messiah, this like John the Baptist type figure to pave the way to establish the empire, the physical secular empire so that the Messiah could come. I think that that's what he believes he's doing. I also think that he is incentivized in this moment to plow forward because he has Damocles sword hanging over his head in the form of these criminal prosecutions he's facing the minute he's out of office. And he has an election, regardless of whether or not he can maintain the support of the Knesset. He has an election coming up in October and the sharks have come out. And all of his political opponents are now out there, you know, attacking him and saying that he has destroyed the reputation of Israel around the world. has, you know, he, the war mongering is backfiring on them. It's not working out. He's, he's failed in his mission to, like, defeat Iran. He's failed in his mission to defeat Hamas. Like, those are the accusations. I think those are that rhetoric and that debate, like the way that

that that dialectic is unfolding is only going to drive him deeper into war to prove those people wrong. And also, as I've said before, I think the public mandate, he secures the public mandate, by either a strategic defeat of Iran or by expanding the borders of Israel formally between now and October, which they're now talking about doing in Lebanon and I believe Syria. But I think that

what he's activated, maybe not among the entire Israeli population, but among large segments of the Zionists, the political Zionists in Israel, one thing they've always said, like if you go back decades and you go listen to like people who ask them about this stuff, like, okay, so you think that this entire land, like Palestine, like that, like the greater Israel thing is kind of become like out in the open very recently.

But going back much further, they've always kind of said, yeah, this entire land like Palestine referring to that, that, those borders. This all belongs to us. And when they're asked, okay, so how are you going to like annex that? They say, well, we're not going to go out there and like conquer it like with war. God will somehow give it to us. Like those like we believe in like we have faith that God will somehow deliver circumstances to us where Palestine comes into our possession. And basically I'm not the one who's going to fire the first shot, but somebody else will because God will will it. And then we will, you know, we will reap the benefits of that.

Bibi Netanyahu, I think, has now fired that shot. And everyone else in Israel who, not everyone, but the political elite who. have maintained that position, see this as their opportunity. Even if Bebeenet and Yahoo becomes the scapegoat and they blame all the negative backlash of it on him, they see him as a useful tool to expand their borders and create this empire. I think that's where I think a lot of even the people who aren't aligned with him politically and Israel see him as a useful instrument. So all those conditions I think have set up, set this up. for Israel does to plow forward regardless of what the United States does,

regardless of what anybody else says or does to them. But the really interesting part, before I pass it back to you, about that passage that Trump read, and then the fact that it's connected, the triumphant arch is connected to Paris and that arch. And then the arch in Rome was commissioned by Titus to commemorate the defeat of the Jews in the, you know, 70 AD. This

is Matthew 23. And rather than read Matthew 23, there's like the show The Chosen has done like a, you know, like a rendition of it, a film rendition of it. Let's just watch this. It's like three or four minutes long. So this is Matthew 23 from the Bible. And this is Jesus confronting the Sanhedron, the Pharisees in the temple. And basically saying to them everything that God laid out in that two chronicles passage.

All right, all right. Listen, the Pharisees sit on Moses's seat. So do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. Well, they preach, but do not practice. We what? They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders. But they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others.

outrageous. They make their philactories broad and their fringes long and they love the place of honor at feasts and being called rabbi by others. We are rabbi. Stop interrupting him. I've said some of this in Copernium, but now I say this to you here in Jerusalem in the courts of the temple itself. Woe to scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces And you yourselves don't go in, but you don't let anyone else in either. Woke to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte. And when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourself. Jesus!

Stop this at once! Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful. but within are full of dead people's bones and all uncleanness, for you all so outwardly appear righteous to others. But within, you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. You build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, saying, if we had lived in the days of our fathers,

we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets. But in your actions, you now and will reveal, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets you serpents you brood of vipers how will you escape being condemned to hell everyone of your words would be recorded and reported to die with the flat down yeah so like you know that's uh again that's from the bible um matthew 23 and basically he what jesus is sent jesus um you can see the looks on his his followers his apostles faces they're like like very like there's a lot of consternation and concern because they're like we don't understand why you're doing this the Messiah is supposed to be it was written that the Messiah was supposed

to be as great warrior who comes down and liberates the Jews from their captors isn't that Rome why are you not liberating us from Rome and and and his whole point was I'm not here to liberate you from you know the physical shackles of uh of uh of you know your life um I'm here to to to liberate you from the the spiritual sat uh shat uh shatheas of your sin. And the people who are basically your captors are actually your religious leaders who have betrayed you and are just serving themselves. They're so deeply indulged in their sin that they will never get to heaven and they actually are servants of the devil because of that. And that's what he's saying to them in their face. And then he's also pointing out that they're

following in the footsteps of the men who came before them who betrayed God. And then as a result of that is in the Old Testament were punished. Israel is over and over and over and over again in the Bible because they keep betraying God and they keep going against what he tells them to do. And so he has to then he has to punish them, that the wrath of God comes out and punishes them. And what's interesting is like the real irony of the whole story to me is that the expectation, even among his own followers, certainly among the Pharisees, is that the Messiah was supposed to come and liberate them from Rome. instead what god does is he uses rome as an instrument to destroy the thing that he views as um the gatekeeper to heaven which is the sanhedron the pharisees the temple which is why you know decades later in 70 um a d the roman empire comes in and destroys the temple uh and which jesus says every stone in this

temple will be torn down because jerusalem has turned its back on god turn it's back on me and because of that that Jerusalem is now condemned. And then, in an even greater twist of irony, the Roman Empire becomes the vehicle that spreads Christianity across the known world. So it's like God has this very like sense of humor where the thing that was viewed as like this great oppressor that was keeping God's people down actually becomes the vehicle to spread the Word of Christ across the world, the Roman Empire. And now, like, I can't watch that scene and not think of not only like the American deep state, like all those words I think that were said can easily be applied to the U.S. government.

I also think it obviously can be applied to the Israeli government and what they're doing right now. So I guess the question I have then is like, is it the case that for those who are fulfilling prophecy in their minds are themselves? Like, is it the case that there is a belief that in order for retribution to befall the wayward Zionists who have been, who missed the ball the first time they had the chance 2,000 years ago, they took the wrong, they made the wrong choice. And now 2,000 years later, you know, there's repercussions to that. does it is it the case that like this entire greater israel has to be reconstituted first you know does that thing that's there on the screen need to be built up first does the temple need to be built up in order for it to all be like wiped out you know because it was already wiped out so uh for it to happen again does it have to be built for that third time for that final um purgative moment in the minds of these I see this kind of like witchcraft, frankly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, that's a really, really important question. And I'm sure there are people, like dispensationalists, who will say, yes, like, we have to let them do this whole thing so that then we can come in and spank them for being naughty. Again, I don't adopt the mentality that we're living through the end of days. I'm very open to all possibilities, right? but I don't live my life under the assumption that like, you know, oh, I'm so special, we're so special because we get to live through this really, really important time in human history. I mean, this is a very important time in human history, but is this the important time, you know, the end of days?

I think there's a little bit of narcissism there, like you're indulging in when you just assume, because every generation has believed that, by the way, like every generation has believed, oh, we're living through the end of times. There's the antichrist. It's Hitler. It's Napoleon. It's, you know, it's Caesar. Like, like, whatever.

Eric is second honed often. It's, yeah, there's, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's always been a character, like, in every generation where they pointed to and they're like, you know, Obama, like people like, Obama's the anti-Christ, right? But again, I think that's like a little narcissistic. Because all those people were wrong. Like, they weren't living could be the end of days. I mean, maybe they were. Maybe that was the beginning and it's a long, it's a long process. But again, like, I'm not a dispensationalist. So I don't think that's what's actually happening here. It could be. But I do think that this, that dispensationalists are in control of, or in some level of control of Israel and are supporting it and are pushing it to build the greater Israel empire as part of that dispensationalist mindset, right? Whatever their motivation may be, whether they actually believe in this crap like this stuff that we're going to build this third temple and we're going to summon Mosheok or as I understand it, like these Christian Zionists like Ted Cruz think that if we if we help them do this, the Pharisees, do this, the modern Sanhedron do this, then God will come and smite them and we'll get this, we'll get the second. Like Mike, Mike Cockadee, we could see that clearly

as the type of ideology that he probably has lurking behind his eyeballs as the guy who really does seem to believe fully that the Jews do have the right to simply spread and take all of the other lands, including Lebanon, who it's kind of strange that he's been assigned

to be a part of the negotiating team to negotiate a piece between Israel and Lebanon considering it's that guy who openly said that Lebanon should just become the property of Israel. But yeah, there's probably that going on. I was a little annoyed by the fact that amongst the Trump team, at least, there was no, like, it's all Genesis and Revelation. I would have liked a little bit more Jesus or a little bit of Paul or a little bit of,

yeah, because there's great stuff. There's so much like great wisdom. in the Gospels and the New Testament, but to go straight for revelation after you've done Genesis, I don't know. I kind of, it's not surprising there because I think a lot of these people are dispensationalists. I think the people like in the cabinet are like I think a lot of these people are actually dispensationalists. I don't necessarily think Trump is. Um, but again, I think he has brought these people in as television characters. Like I don't even know how much power of some of these people have. Like, do, do any of these people? I mean, I subscribe to John Harold's

series devolution, like that that actually happened. And the basic premise is that the power of the government was devolved. We're in a continuity of government protocol right now. And at some point, the government will be reconstituted. But I don't think that that's actually happened yet. And if that hasn't happened yet, I asked this question at Gart. If that hasn't happened yet, does that mean that this administration, the cabinet, doesn't actually have any power? And is it possible that President Trump has brought all these people in, you know, surrounded them with all of the, with all of the optics that they actually are these things that they've been told they are? You're the secretary of this. You're the secretary of that. And they're sitting there in their day to day life,

like their day to day, like actually doing the work and being fed intel and like putting stuff out. but it's all one giant sciop that's being run against them. I mean, like, is that possible? Maybe. I mean,

look at what's happening with Tulsi Gabbard right now. I mean, Tulsi Gabbard, I maintain, I think is the, like the only person in the whole administration

that I actually think is interesting, like, is, like I earnestly trust to drain the swamp. There might be a few others. But look at what's happening about that. There were, over the past 36 hours,

there has been rumors that have been pushed across social media that she has been given, till what is it June. I think it's June to resign. They're like, you have till June to resign. Like, that's what the narrative is right now. It's bullshit. Like, I think it's all probably fake news, but the biggest influencers on X are pushing that.

The story is that Trump hates Tulsi Gabbard and that, like, it's been one attack after one attack after one attack against Tulsi Gabbard. They want her out so bad. And yet, she hasn't been expelled. Joe Kent, I mean, if you go look at the stuff that Joe Ken is posting right now, he is being very, very supportive of President Trump. He hasn't done anything subversive, in my opinion, as far as like accusing Trump of being malicious or being bad or betraying America or anything like that. He's actually blaming all the people around him and saying there are bad people around Trump

who are steering him down this bad path, and we need to pull back from that. I think he's actually telling the truth. I think he's actually saying Trump has surrounded himself with people who, if left of their own devices that there are actually granted power would lead us into this abyss that we're looking at right now like World War III. I question how much power any of these people actually have though because I do subscribe to the theory of devolution. Okay, cool. I want to read a couple of ads? I can do that. Please. Well, yeah, let's do let's do the Patriot. The Patriot one. Okay, let's start with that one. Then we have conscious strength. So here, let me just do the Patriot first. All right.

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I also want to just point out to somebody who wrote a question. Very, very brief question here regarding Nero. So is Brett Hauer just wrote a question. I want to just address quickly before we continue. So is the Talmud's account that Nero was a convert to Judaism likely to be true? No, it is unlikely to be true. That was an account that came out in the Babylonian Talmud around the fourth century or so. And Nero, by all evidence, was an initiate of Mithra.

If he worshipped any religion, it was the worship of Mithra that he worshipped. And also Helios, that goes with the Mithra as the Solon Vectis warrior cult of the Praetorian Guard. and he was initiated in around 64, 65 AD by Tiridati's the first, the king of Armenia, who was a Zoroastrian priest and visited Rome and carried out the initiation ceremony. So, yeah, probably not a Jew, most likely a Mithraic high priest, as were the Templars in their own more Christian-rebranded veneer, and which continue on with the order of the Garter, the Jesuits represented incarnation of this.

The Rosicrucians represent an incarnation of this to this very day. So, yeah, not a Jew. I should want to address that. Yeah, yeah. And that's a good point because, you know, I certainly don't view this thing that we're up against as like one monolith. I don't view it as like one giant organization that spans the world. And it's like orders are given at the top and disseminated down to like the, like the troop

boots on the ground. I view it more as like a confederation of factions that have overlapping interests, but also compete with one another for their own position, like their own power, right? And they, you know, they're all, most of them I would imagine are narcissistic sociopaths. I don't think narcissistic sociopaths share power very well. Like, I don't think they, you know, serve like, oh, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to work really hard to make sure you have a lot of power, you know, the way that somebody with maybe a more righteous disposition might, you know, uh, interpublic service for the right reasons. Um, so I kind of feel like what's happened here is, uh, while while these groups, I think have for the most part worked, um, together, you know, in coordination,

while also I think, like I said, battling one another, um, where they, where they do have differences, you know, to jockey for position, much like you've seen like in the mob, right, where the mob, they're like little factions in the mob that will take each other out because they want, you know, more power. It seems like maybe because all these groups have their own agenda, their own incentive structures, some of them have been pitted against one another in ways that they didn't fully anticipate. And now they're just kind of reacting as opposed to being proactive. They're being reactive. And, you know, one of the, one of the examples of that, I think, is this whole Israel thing. Israel has become kind of the the bludgeoning tool against the deep state because if you look at

like I said Trump is I think Trump has like leaned in you know like the way a boxer like leans in with his chin to get the other guy to cross and then he backs up and and counterpunches and gives the haymaker like that's what I think Trump's doing here where he is leaned in to this whole like oh yeah like I'm totally Netting Yahoo's puppet he totally controls me I'm totally like a Jewish puppet guys like yeah like hate me and now I think the apparatus has recognized that's the attack vector that's how we can separate Trump from his base we got to go all in on that and so here's John Kerry on some late night show uh saying oh yeah Netanyahu presented to us over and over and over again

like like go to a war with Iran but we said no because we're not evil right and it's like this is so they're they're going to like speak out of school now and they're going to be like oh yeah like Israel is super evil like we've never said this out loud of course because you know it's not kosher to do that but yeah it like Netanyahu is super evil Israel is really bad and Trump is totally in bed with these guys so therefore like all the animus that y'all are feeling

towards Israel you should also feel towards President Trump and again this is like an orobores it's like the deep state is like eating itself because I do think that like the Israeli like the Israel project even before you get to the greater Israel project, just like the Rothschild Israel Project, I think that that was created for a number of reasons. Like the sacrificial lamb theory that you've presented,

I think absolutely is probably part of it. I also think just from reading, like, Theodore Herzl's diary, that a lot of these Jewish oligarchs in Paris and London in the late 1800s just viewed the Eastern Orthodox, like Jewish, Jewish communities in the same way Hitler did. Like they were intermission and they're like, we don't want these people coming to Paris or coming to London because they will foment anti-Semitism and we'll all get thrown out.

So we should create like a little sanctuary to send them all to where they can have their own little world that we don't really need to mess with. Send them all to the Middle East. Like just send them all to the Middle East and that way they won't come to Paris. They won't come to London. I mean, that's literally what the rot like. of the Rothschilds were telling uh, theater or Herzl and also what theater or Herzl was using as an argument to the

Prussian bankers because he's like, hey, you have all these Jews like these Jewish communities here in Germany that are causing a lot of problems for y'all. Um, what if we just like put them like put them on ships and send them off to the Middle East and they're like, oh, that would be fantastic. Yeah, yeah, sign me up for that. So like, again, these are like different factions like with nefarious intent and they all have their own incentive structure like the the the Prussian bankers want to get rid of these Jewish communities because they they're they're a headache for them politically. The Rothschilds want to get rid of them because they don't want them to foment anti-Semitism and

ruin their life, you know, in London, London and Paris. You know, but meanwhile, this group, right, does have it's like that they're sitting in the Middle East. I lost the sound. It has its own. What's that? Actually, can people listening? Is it me?

Is it my sound that just fell out? I can still hear you. my speaker because I can't hear you all of a sudden. Can people hearing right now? Let me see. Hear me or Gordon? Put a one in the chat. You can hear me.

Sound is good. Okay. So everyone says the sound is good. I'm going to switch my speakers to my earbud here. Maybe that will work better for some reason. Okay. Yeah, yeah, everyone says they can hear about this. I'm just going.

Speakers. Okay. Speak again? Yeah. So can you hear me now? Speak again? Test, test, test. No.

No, no, no. It's not working. No. Speak in. Test, test, test. I think it's your computer speaker. I can't hear anything. Yeah.

Let me just take this microphone. Okay. Well, I'll keep going while Matt figures that out. So, like this. Keep going. Just keep talking. Yeah, yeah. But so this group that they're sending to the Middle East, you know, ultimately

really in the 1930s with the help of Adolf Hitler, they have their own incentive structure. They have their own agenda. They have their own ambition. And again, I think a lot of these people, like, you know, these elites, these oligarchs, they're all working together to some extent. There is cross-collaboration. But again, there is a gen. They have different agendas. I think all of these groups have different agendas. And I do think that these agendas are being turned against one another. I think that when you look at how the timing of all this, how Credit Suisse collapsed in 2023, how it's now being investigated by Neil Birovsky, we're going to get a report on that. That entire investigation was started by Jewish NGOs that

were concerned that Credit Suisse had Nazi bank accounts, had old Nazi gold that was stolen purportedly from Jews. And so they want justice on that. They want the gold. So again, it's like that incentive, right, from the, these Jewish NGOs to go after the bankers in Switzerland could result in like the entire banking system being exposed as a like a giant cartel and a giant fraud. And this is something that I don't think necessarily would have happened on a different timeline. Like if we didn't have these groups being pitted against one another the way they have been pitted against one another. And now, like the, like as I laid out before, the incentive structure for Netanyahu and his regime is to plow forward with this war. And I think there are other factions now that are recognizing the problem that this is

presenting, the accelerated timeline that it's on. And while they're not necessarily opposed to like the establishment of an empire in the Middle East, they see it as an opportunity to attack President Trump using that as their attack vector. And so again, I think this is like pitting factions against one another. The same way the CIA will go into a foreign country. Can you hear now? Yeah. All right, sweet.

So like, like just to recap, Matt, the same way the CIA will go into a foreign country or just like a territory and pit the groups against one another, like create tribalism, create division, right? In order to fom it, you know, create Higalian. dialectics in order to foment a color revolution, right? A strategy of tension. I think the strategy of tension has now been applied to the deep state, like whatever you want to call it.

And it's screwing everything up because while you were signing in, I laid out that Netanyahu and his regime have this incentive, like their incentive is to plow forward because they have no choice. Damocles sword hanging over their head, the election coming up. They need to secure the public mandate to remain in power and avoid being prosecuted. And these other groups who maybe wouldn't normally have a problem with, you know, the establishment of this empire in the Middle East, like what do they care? They actually probably see it as a useful mechanism to start World War III. They're attacking this thing because they see it as a very, very convenient opportunity to separate President Trump from his support base, right?

and by pointing out, hey, this is evil what these people are doing, right? Even if they don't believe that. President Trump is with them ostensibly. He's evil too. So again, it's like he's getting these groups to attack one another. They never attacked this stuff before. I mean, like John Kerry wasn't saying this stuff about Israel 20 years ago. He may, he may like have had his differences politically, like within the like the safety of the political sandbox, the paradigm, and say, you know, tit for tat.

oh, we oppose this, we oppose that. But John Kerry and President Obama and Barack Obama helped Netanyahu create ISIS. They negotiated the Iran nuclear deal, which sent hundreds of millions of dollars secretly in cash to Iran. And then that cash was turned around and used to create militant groups that were designed, I think, to foment desabilization campaigns in the Middle East and start World War III. I think all of that was facilitated by Obama and it was done on behalf of BBA. Netanyahu in Israel. Like they wanted ISIS to be created.

They wanted the Assad to be overthrown. That was a huge, a huge objective, like platform, a policy platform for the Obama administration. Netanyahu wanted that. So you can't sit here and tell me, well, yeah, well, the Democrats hate Israel. That's why they, that's why they're doing all this. Bullshit, bullshit. The Democrats love Israel just as much as the Republicans do. I mean, Dershowitz, Alan Dershowitz just formally left the Democrat Party because he was like,

I can't believe how much the Democrat. Democrats hate Israel. It's like they don't hate Israel. Chuck Schumer is out there talking about how we have to support Netten Yahoo and we got to get behind them because they're fighting for their life. It's like the fake paradigm that we've been presented with the Republican Democrats as it relates to the Middle East is being totally exposed right now. And the fact that Cash Patel yesterday came out and indicted the Southern Poverty Law Center, I'm sure you saw that, where he said, where, now I've been listening to like the zeitgeist for the past 24 hours and everyone's like, well, wait a minute. These people were making all their money and raising all their money on attacking white supremacists and the Ku Klux Klan and all this in neo-Nazis. Meanwhile, they're actually funding all these. These people are literally on their payroll and they're giving them money, money that

they're getting in grants from U.S. taxpayers. This is all fraud. These people are all going to go to prison. And by the way, take that same dynamic concept and apply it to everything. else, including ISIS, radical Islamic terrorism, all of it. It's all just fake. It's all just created in order to give like a boogeyman to attack. Well, the Southern Poverty Law Center increasingly became a tool that was infiltrated and taken over.

Change your mic. Change your mic. I see. Yes. Okay. That should be better. Yeah, it seems like the Southern Poverty Law Center had become increasingly. a tool for the CIA because after after Martin Luther King Jr. had died a lot of his institutions

were totally they already had like sleepers and incubators inside that you know the civil rights movement but that really became taken over by as a host by this parasite because that was the same thing that happened even in Canada in the 1990s I did I did a little video on this how CIS the Canadian sort of mirror image of the CIA was caught having created and funded Canada's only white supremacist Nazi group called the Heritage Front. And this all came out in like 1997. And it was discovered that the founder and the president of the Heritage Front, Grant Bristol, was himself a CESIS agent.

And they'd been pouring a massive amount of resources to create an enemy that they could then use to justify their need to create more of a surveillance state, more regulations on people's ability to have firearms, which, by the way, now in Canada, You're not allowed legally to own a firearm unless it's a hunting rifle, but otherwise you can't by law. And we saw the same thing, right? The Fordham University carried out a study in 2012 going through all of the known cases of terrorism that had been intervened upon by the FBI since 2001. So for that 11-year period and found that like 89% of all of the cases investigated found the FBI to be behind. the creation, the funding, the direction of these various cells, that we were then told,

hey, whether it's the Boston bomber bombers or the Christmas tree bomber, all of these things, the Newburgh Four, all of these busts all had direct hands of America's intelligence agencies behind. They're funding. There's actually a mosque in, I think it was Michigan, that had to call. out a court order because an FBI informant kept on trying to pay money to the various members of the mosque to be a part of his cell. And they actually had to put out a restraining order by law to keep this guy away from their mosque. So it's like this is such a proven modus operandi.

And the fact that, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing this now just shows how ubiquitous this thing had spread. It's not too much of a surprise, but it is an irony, a juicy irony, that they're not. they were pouring all of this cash, I think up to a million dollars for one of their white supremacist informants who was participating in or maybe organizing the Charlestown event some years back. And that guy was given like a million dollars taxpayer money from the law center. So yeah, you definitely have the creation of boogeyment of enemy images as a convenient way to keep the population in a state of psychological terror, a fear, the idea of Islamist terrorism as well. was very useful both for the Jews living in the Middle East who had formerly thought that they could possibly think through a, you know, a solution to the problems of basically just having created a new nation with a lot of people that have a lot of resentment because you had to abuse them and steal their land.

So there's understandable abuses, but there was still an idea from both sides, from the Arafat side and from the, you know, the laborers. Zionist side in the 90s that thought that, hey, we can work together still, we could figure this out, we can build projects. And that had to come on done. So Netanyahu's support for, you know, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood Front Group, other things that were more of a more violent orientation was very useful for his ambitions and for those who control him. But for me, like, when it comes to the oligarchy, the way I tend to think about it these

days is like, we know that they have a recipe book. We know that there's like certain formulas that they applaud. and that works. And it's a very ambiguous idea. Like oligarchy just means garky is like rule by olis, you know, is Greek for the few. So rule by the few. But it's like what does that even mean? Certainly not democracy.

That's sort of the opposite. But it's, it can use democracy. It can coexist with democracy, as we've seen with many cases where the demos has been culturally castrated to the point that people's individuality. is dissipated and they tend to become more homogenizable with a mob, with a tribe, with a pack. And as soon as you get somebody in with a with a crowd, they will do things that they would never do as an individual, right? We've seen that with cases of riots with lynch mobs. You get somebody into a frenzy, an emotional state with a crowd and they will do shameful

things that as individuals they would not do. And those crowds are much more easy to to do the Pied Piper thing. with to do a little to do a spell with rhetoric with the the magic of of the manipulation of of words and emotions and false lines of reasoning that could uh flatter the egos of those who you want to influence and manipulate you you say oh there's wisdom in crowds that everyone knows that this whatever you know name your name your lie is true and so you know crucify that that guy over there you know like whatever the case may be. And you can direct the herd that way. And so you can have the illusion of democracy, but not the reality of it. But that also requires a cultural decay,

a cultural degeneration that destroys people's ability to think as sovereign individuals. And so the demos was behind the so-called murder of Socrates, but really was it, you know, like they voted democratically to have Socrates drink the hemlock and die for the sins of questioning the the pantheon of gods and corrupting the youth. But was it really the demos? No, they stopped thinking for themselves. So the entire thing was orchestrated by the high priesthood, the hated Socrates and what he was creating.

And the same thing for Jesus. You know, you could say, oh, yeah, look, all of the Jews in the crowd, they all, like, wanted, you know, Pontus Pilate to kill this heretic. But really was it ultimately this mindless crime? crowd of anger or did it have also something to do with who is manipulating the the crowd from behind or who is even like giving perhaps Pontius Pilate commands from, I believe, Tiberius, played a big role further removed in the center of Rome, giving his, you know, Stuart Pontius Pilate in Judea instructions on how to approach the killing of Jesus.

Because I think that the high priesthoods that ran Rome, which again, were Mithraic. If you look at Tiberius, just like Nero later on, he was a worshipper of Mithra. He was an initiate. He had his Isle of Capri as well, where he would worship Helios and Dionysius, the Apollo Dionysius, sort of solar deity and orgiastic frenzy at night Dionysian revelry that involved human sacrifice. But all of that was being organized by a small coterie known as the Committee of 15. So it's like as diverse as Rome was in its multiple factions, there was still, you know, layers of control. So each one seemed to be from its vantage point, looked from a bottom up perspective, it seemed to be from the lower order that that was the control mechanism, was people would say, oh, it's the Praetorian Guard that's controlling everything.

Well, the Praetorian Guard, it's true, they control a lot. they even assassinated like over a dozen emperors at different times that displeased somebody. But it's like when you look at what the Praetorian Guard was, well, they were themselves all religiously devoted initiates into the cult of Mithra. So who was controlling the cult of Mithra? Well, what was that a part of? And so there's a Mithra was one of three complementary secret orders, right? they're the cult of ISIS, the cult of Sibel Atis, and the cult of Mithra, were the three dominant opponents to Christianity in those early days.

And they would work together. They all had the same degrees of initiation. They all had the same induction into the Elysinian mysteries, the same kind of formulas in deconstructing the minds of initiates to be reconstructed as human wannabe gods with like giant egos that can't see how they're being managed. But you had above that, all three were being managed by the committee of 15. So in Rome, you did have something known as the Committee of 15, which had endured for centuries and centuries since the beginning of the Roman Republic, which was the only committee

of priests who came from the noble families who were initiated into the highest of the cults, and that had the sole authorization to interpret the sibling oracles, which were brought into Rome in like 599 BC when Rome was still a kingdom. And these sibling oracles were like the transcribed mutterings of the priestess, the drugged up priestess of Apollo at Delphi, who had her basically mutterings. You know, they would go into a drugged up state the way these oracles would work, right? You'd go, you pay money to the priests. They'd have their woman who would be sitting usually over like psychedelic gaseous vapors.

and they'd be given like concoctions of psychotropic, you know, drugs mixed in with like some silocybin, some some opiates, whatever. They'd have their little concoctions. And that would give somebody a sense of being in an altered state. And they would start transmitting a sort of stream of consciousness or musings of like visions of, you know, when you look at the sibling oracles, you know, there's there's whole academic. research on this features like what sorts of of things they would say well three 13 moons will rise in the east and two suns will rise in the west on the 13th day of the 14th hour of the year of the eagle in the seventh um you know zodiac of of Pisces whatever it so they would use this like

very and the star and the skies would be set ablaze as the angel of redemption would emerge on to this blah blah blah at this 14th hour and so they would like use just very you know um cryptic language again totally stream of consciousness stuff highly interpretable based on whatever the the interpreters the high priests that were overseeing usually there would be 12 or 13 of them they were overseeing this woman um and then they would just tell the the general or the king who is coming to pay the money to get word of what do the gods want us to do what does apollo want us to do and they would say well you know god is apollo is telling you clearly through this like um allegorical tale to go make an alliance with uh medea or go declare war on uh persia or whatever right like go going and allow in this mystery cult

as a sanctioned cult in rome like that's what they did to bring in sebel and isis you know the the committee of 15 said okay these books they transgresses they transgresses utterings of the oracle, it's kind of like the E. Ching, say that if we're going to win the war against Hannibal in the second Punic War, well, Apollo speaking through these oracles, says that we have to invite the cult of Sibel from Anatolia into Rome. And then the gods will bestow their blessings and we will defeat Hannibal and save Rome. Okay, so they did that. Well, next thing you have is all of the young men in Rome are cutting off their penises to become

hierophance golly of the of the collie cult you know and all the roman parents are pissed off because they're like oh my my son they thought a very like stoic you know honor thy family type of of ethos and that was not meshing well and they were just freaking out because thousands of young men in rome were all going off to get castrated to be androgynous deities that transcend male and female as part of becoming part of the high priesthood of that particular cult and otherwise there was just orgies you know they were corrupting the the the young girls and the cult had to go underground after after a few decades because it was just not meshing until it came back under collegula in an open way but it also existed with the cult of

mitra so everywhere we see that there is a temple of sibel in rome that there have been excavations right over the years that have brought out these various temples of sibel there's a high degree of proximity to a mithraum where the the cult of mithra that's a male only cult would worship in their underground Mithraim. And that featured Mithra killing the bull, looking over at Helios, and on the other side having Luna, or Venus, you know, a dark deodotist female god of the night with a male god of the sun overlooking him, you know, ritually killing the bull. And that became the emblem for the Persian cult that was brought in from Persia, which had formerly existed in Babylon under the cult of Marduk. It took on a form of

of Mithra in Persia. Before that, even, it was in India, in a different form. And then it was rebranded into the Roman pantheon. And that's what Tiberius, who again was trying to, it was the Mithra cult that was a major rival to Christianity because they had a lot in similarity in some ways. You know, as far as like celebrating Mithra's birthday around December 25th, which at the time was the solstice.

That was like one of the things that had been practiced. There was a battle, right, around the idea of the son of the sun. It's a solar deity, right? So Mithra is the Solen Vectis who's the son of the fallen father, or he's the fallen son of the father, which is kind of like a Lucifer Christ Gnostic idea. If you look at the Gnostic scriptures or the Gnostic Gospels of the second, third, and fourth century that also tried to undermine Christianity. They were largely repackaged Mithraic and civilian mystery religions, but that tried to emulate a Christian veneer to destroy Christianity from within by embodying a different kind of Jesus,

not the one that you just saw in the chosen, but rather a Jesus that was much more Settian. It's called the Sethian Gospels because the idea was that Jesus was the avatar. That was the spirit of Jesus, not one of love, loving thy neighbor and all these moral principles. It wasn't that. If you read like the gospel of Thomas or the gospel of Philip that they discovered at Nag Hammadi, they're actually it's a very amoral jesus that professes to have secret knowledge that he only gives to his favorite disciples mary magdalen who's also you know it alludes to the fact that she's also his lover and uh john who he uh he gives special secret information to but he's the avatar of the of the of lucifer which which sort of incarnated as the serpent and then incarnated as

Jesus and maybe incarnated earlier as Elijah. And that's how they're, they're sort of in future, or Enoch at a different moment. So that's how they, they're trying to spin it. But you see that these are just synthetically created religious cults that were designed by those same things that controlled and designed the cult of Mithra that I think were much more tied to the committee of 15, which itself might have had rivalry. I mean, at a certain point, I know Cicero came in and tried to disrupt the committee of 15. So there's definitely, it's not like a godlike control.

grid, but there's, it's, it's, it's, as I was saying, I think of the oligarchy is as centralized in a certain way that's more coherent at the top and then has layers, um, not infinite layers, not like an infinitely divisible or layered onion, but there are like a quant, a limited quantity of layers of, of, of mechanism, of lower mechanisms that each one seem to have a greater degree of incoherence as you get down towards the, uh, the the publicly acceptable narratives of the world that we're living in featuring like yeah you know everything's done for oil there's oil profits everybody wants to just make money and you know like that type of like narrative that tries to boil everything down to everybody wants to make money that type of mindless type of thing that has no space for any conspiracy for good or for evil that's like the lowest the lowest rung but above that you start getting into you know the ross child's you get the jewish banker thing but then okay okay well, that's, what are these things? Well, they were largely the outcome of Templars needing to use, or, you know, controlling all of the banking in the Middle Ages during the Crusades and then finding it useful to employ court Jews, Hofyuden as their assets to do the dirty work of using banking for financial, you know, weaponry, user and what have you. And then some of them who did really good jobs were rewarded by being upgraded and being

granted little licensed dynasties that would be protected as long as their their bloodline continued to serve the interests, you know, of the trust that they were, that they were entrusted with of managing, whether it was the Rothschilds or the Sassoons. But it's like they were largely just rewarded for being good guard dogs and totally willing to sacrifice their own people at different times were it expedient because they were more just to be a guard dog, to be vetted. You had to necessarily become a Satanist. You had to. get into some dark like tree of death stuff a la like mirror image dark mirror of cabala um not tree of life but you look at the tree of life and the tree of death that people often ignore the tree of death parallel tree right um but that's what they would actually become more immersed with as all of the crowleyites and stuff continued to be who are all obsessed as well about solomon's temple and you know crowley who was following this tradition who hated the jews he despised the jews but he loved the cabala he loved the cabalah he loved the cabalah he loved loved this, this mystical Gnostic tradition and he loved, like he wrote books on the greater and

lesser key of Solomon. And he wrote books and he's popularizing the test of the, the occult testament of Solomon, this fake book from the medieval ages that talked about, that promoted the idea that Solomon built his temples by harnessing the power of Belzebub and the demonic hordes through his special, you know, his special ring with two triangles. And that, that stuff is like, really taken seriously by the higher-ups, the Charles Warrens, the United Grand Lodge assholes at the upper higher-up echelons. So that's how I tend to look at their issues today, is like factions, yes, but there is more concurrence when I look at the higher shells.

And I don't think we can ever know what's the detail of those particular shells without actually being in it but as far as an induction an induction I can make by triangulation of data points that's sort of where I'm at as my hypothesis oh yeah and I think it's reasonable to to suspect you know to speculate that um these various factions like the the confederation of factions are being controlled by like a by like a hierarchy right like an invisible hand that maybe they're not even aware exists or maybe they are depending on their position um but yeah it's like they're manipulating these little factions to advance their own agenda, right, that maybe these factions individually are not fully aware of, kind of like compartmentalization and like an intelligence

operation, right? I think all that is very reasonable. And like Ash and I have done extensive shows about, you know, the more theological elements here. And I think we're in agreement here to some extent that her and I that the Pharisees in Jesus' day were practicing a different religion than like the people in the streets like there and that seems to be kind of what Jesus is accusing them of doing is that they're they're practicing a different religion to some extent it's certainly a different spirituality right than what's out there in the streets than what the people than what Jesus and his followers are practicing and I think what we're seeing now, this is something that Ash has been pointing out for a while,

is if you heard of this House of Abraham thing in the UAE? So if you look it up, so there's this thing that they just finished building it a few years ago, but it's called the House of Abraham. It's in the UAE. And basically, I'm not super familiar with it. Ash has really educated me more on it. But basically what it is is it's like an attempt, you know, I think it's like a mosque, a church, and a synagogue.

Like, like it's a, it's some sort of a monument. Oh, yeah, that thing's shady as sin. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. And so, like, what Ash is, what Ash puts forward is she says, basically what this thing is, is it's like merging the three religions, but just removing Jesus. Like, like, it's like, hey, we can all come together and, like, agree on, like, the basic principles of our religion. Like, like, if you look at the Ten Commandments, like, we all kind of agree on the Ten Commandments, right? Like, all three of us.

So why don't we focus on the Ten Commandments, why don't we focus on, you know, the common ground? and let's eliminate the controversy. It's eliminate the things that cause us to fight with one another. And, I mean, what greater thing is there than Jesus? Like, that causes a lot of division, right? So let's just get rid of Jesus. We can, you know, maybe we can keep some of his teachings because he had some good ideas. Let's just get, let's just stop talking about Jesus, right?

And let's just kind of erase him from the collective memory. And let's just focus on the, you know, the common ground. By the way, I think that that is, my understanding is that's spelled out somewhere in like the book of revelations as some sort of, you know, something the anti-crice is going to do. But that's neither here or there because, again, I'm not a dispensation list. But, but I mean, like, go look at what Ted Cruz is saying around. Ted Cruz is like, when I asked about the Crisis King thing, he's like, I refuse to say Christ is King because it's offensive to some people.

And it's like, whoa, dude. Like, you're supposed to be the hardcore, you know, almost like insufferable, you know, evangelical politician and you won't even say Christ is king because you're afraid that you're going to offend people like that I mean that should that should just be like stop the record slam the brakes on like hold up like what what did you just say um that should be like a like a break the fourth wall like very vera silumatoid has been broken now and now this is no longer a believable story but you know people hear him say that and they think oh well yeah like we don't want to offend our are are you know Israeli brethren um it's all very very very very very, very silly. But one of the conversations I had, and I've had this conversation a few times at Gart, but I was speaking to, you know, Jewish people at Gart, he's like, like American Jews. And I had friends who were Jewish growing up.

Like, I went to their bat mitzvah. And they were telling me they were like, you know, I've just never heard of any of this stuff. I've never heard of a tall mood. I've never heard of the Zohar. I've never heard of the Kabbalah. Like, what is all this stuff? And talking to them and kind of like asking them questions and them explaining their, like, lived experience it sounds to me like what they go through is that they go to synagogue as children

they study the Torah like the original Torah the pentatoc the first five books of the old testament what would most people most Christians think of when they think of a Torah um they have their bottom that's when they're 13 and that's it that's like the end of their education right and then they just go to synagogue of the rest of their life um but if you go to israel that's not the the curriculum the curriculum is actually not the pentatoc it's the tall mood It's the Zohar. It's the Kabbalah. It's like those books, you know, which is much more like in mysticism.

The Tallmoo explicitly says that Jesus is the greatest heretic of all time and is burning in hell, like boiling in hell in a pit of feces, like boiling feces or whatever. I was just doing an interview with somebody, though, you got to be careful with some of these things because what was proven to me was that a lot of the most inflammatory. And there was bad stuff in the Talmud, don't get me wrong. but um because it's like the composition of like 400 different rabbis that made their commentaries but in the worst stuff that i've encountered like um like jesus is burning in in excrement and semen and whatever and yeah that's actually uh mistranslated it actually is not uh jesus it's it's somebody else um like a lot of those things you'll you'd be surprised are either made up like the worst of the scary quotes are either made up completely and they're just not in the talmud or

they're completely mistranslated to make it seem to an English speaker that it's super bad, but when you actually read the original, it's completely dishonestly done. So it's actually not, there's just, I'm just saying we have to always be careful in that realm of translations or little snippets of the Talmud that go around in English translation form in a lot of these, basically in the internet world. And it's been around since, you know, for hundreds of years, they've been using these same types of techniques. Wow, my camera

just zoomed in on you. Yeah. Well, okay, so regardless of what the specific scripture and in the Talmud says, I don't know if I call it scripture, you know, whatever it is. It's very clear, though, that there is an animus in Israel for Jesus.

Like there is a, that is vocalized not only by these yeshiva students as they're called that those are the the um the heredeme students like the these are the students the kids who are exempt from military service because they dedicate their life to like religious studies right that that's their service to the state um and like rabbis as well who like who you know the fact that uh these christian leaders walk through the streets and are spit on constantly um there is like a real animus oh yeah yeah yeah um in an animus i think towards Christians and towards Jesus specifically.

I mean, I mean, look at that that image that went viral, right? The other night that, of that the soldier, the IDF soldier, smashing the crucifix of Jesus in Devil Lebanon. And then like the IDF and the Israeli government coming out and saying,

yeah, that's authentic. That actually happened. We're really sorry. Are bad. You know, that animus, I think, is exclusive to Israel and to like the, those communities that are in that you know those religious sex that are like that are

a headquartered I would say in Israel like I don't like from my conversations I don't even think that uh I think if you spoke to like the average American Jewish person it's like they don't even think about Jesus like it's not even like something that comes up as a as a discussion point or is like talked about um as at least my understanding but there is real animus in this in the theological sex, you know, like because because there's plenty of quote-unquote what they call secular Jews. They would describe, I think, all American Jews, the ones who aren't in like Orthodox or Hasidic communities, people who dress normally, who dress just like your average person, who don't wear like the clothing that makes them look like they're, you know, Amish or whatever.

They, those are described as secular Jews. They've integrated with the secular society and they don't, you know, live their life according to whatever the Orthodox and Hasidic communities do. But when you go into those other communities and you listen to what they say and you hear what they're fomenting, they are fomenting like this animus toward that idea. And again, like from my understanding of it, the animus is directed more towards the fact that like in that scene that we watch from the Chosen, their expectation was that the Messiah was going to be this warlord who was going to lead them, lead them as an army against Rome and then liberate them. and like establish this new kingdom right like that's even what jesus his own followers his own disciples thought that and he had to like re-edged he had to like reprogram them to not think that anymore um so that's where i think a lot of that animus is because it's very clear if you listen to b b bennet and yahoo

that's what he thinks too he thinks that the jewish messiah is coming and it's going to be this warlord who is going to you know uh uh like like save the chosen people from all the anti-simites and basically create this kingdom for them to live in. That's, I think, like, a lot of, like, what's fueling what we're seeing right now unfolding with the Greater Israel Project. How much of that is tied to, like, the cult of Mithra, how much of that is being pushed by that. I think that's an interesting, interesting, like, rabbit hole to kind of pursue and debate to have. But it seems to me that they've lost control of that. Like whatever level of control they had ever that and that they were using and that they were planning to use to like to weaponize against humanity and create, you know, like a World War III situation.

It seems like they've lost control of that. And the person who's now controlling it is President Trump because he's the one who is like pushed them down this narrative like down this pathway where they have no choice but to plow forward now. And as Trump said when he was asked, you know, did you do this because of like, did Israel force you. going to doing this and he said maybe I'm the one who forced Israel to do this maybe I'm the one who forced Israel to go to war with Iran um and it seems kind of in hindsight that's true like he did it and knowing that that they were always going to do it and now it's like they have jumped in and they can't just jump out they have to finish the task so to speak meanwhile Trump is like yeah we're I'm extending the ceasefire I'm doing the thing that nobody thought I was going to do that I said

I wouldn't do I'm extending the ceasefire we're going to work with Iran we're going to have peace um so I mean, it's, it's interesting, but I think that there are other factions and, um, uh, out there that, uh, are probably less concerned with like this specific storyline, but it seems like the storyline's taken over like the entire political zeitgeist and that's what's now kind of like fueling everything. Well, I, for, for sure, the very important considerations, absolutely. And, um, for For me, it's like I said at the very beginning, the destruction of supply chains, the destruction of overall energy supplies. These are, like, for me, the biggest concerns that I can hold onto because these are measurable,

like how long it takes to build a refinery, how long, how much impact it has on the scarcity of food, on the increase of fertilizer prices, of the ability to even manufacture fertilizer or urea, the shutdown of natural gas facilities that also supply these things. So all of that I could see, like, that's my point of big concern that I'm holding right now in the back of my head is like I'm looking at East Asia going into massive crisis. You know, 20% of the restaurants have been just shut down in, where is it in Mumbai? And, you know, Philippines has gone to a national crisis getting aided by China through some handouts because they've gone through their reserves.

you know, all Asian deliveries of oil from the Persian Gulf that gives 90% of, or no, 80% of the oil and natural gas to East Asia is, it ended on April 1st, hasn't restarted really. And, you know, Africa, you got like eight different countries in Africa that are seizing up going to, going into crisis mode. Zimbabwe, Sudan, South Sudan, they're diluting fuel. There's mandates government, told mandates to, like, dilute fuel in order to stretch it out a little bit longer. So, restrictions of electricity, you know, that are going to create more brownouts and the blackouts. So all of these things, Japan has shut down half their ferry and bus services in, like, big chunks of Japan. So there's, and there's a big list, you know, on top of everything that we're seeing. With these refineries blowing up, you have the effects of the Iran project that are, is literally just shutting down global supplies by up to 20%.

says the i8 uh the international atomic not the international energy agency says that approximately on average 20 15 to 20 percent of global supplies are going to be taken offline as reserves are being drawn down and not being replenished so again the the ramifications to human life is just so big china's been made more vulnerable they're cut off now they're not really getting most of their gas they were getting like a ton of gas from venezuela at high discounts because they invested in so much infrastructure in Venezuela over the years and that's how Venezuela was paying them back. They're not getting that anymore. They're mostly cut off right now from their Persian oil. A lot of that's been highly reduced. Not a lot's getting through. So it seems like, you know,

when I see that getting resolved, I'll be more inclined to have a more optimistic hypothesis that I'm willing to wear. But right now, this has to be resolved in a more serious way because I'm seeing like unnecessary death falling upon the world and a lot of innocent. people so far if this continues. Yeah, and those are real concerns that should be that should be adjudicated in terms of our understanding. I also wonder, you know, if we understand that up until this point, those supply chains, those logistics, those resources were all controlled by the worst people on Earth, right?

And if the idea is to seize those resources back and take over those supply chains and disrupt to those operations so that those bad people don't no longer have a stranglehold over resources and can create artificial scarcity. That is more because then Iran had control of the straight of remotes. Like they weren't now all of a sudden there were they all that bad? Did they want to

did they hold the evidence and wanted to shut down traffic from the straight of hermuts? But Trump's now calling it the straight of Iran. Like he's now saying they're still going to have control over it. Yeah, I know but it's not being used right now. Like it's created this massive crisis of reduction. Yeah, but I mean but I mean who

but but but think about who who who who originally went to iran and drilled the foot and drilled the first uh and you're saying yeah yeah yeah yeah the british empire went there british empire yeah yeah yeah so it's iran has been enjoying full control over by debt for decades now and it's like they had control over the strait so if we rename it the straight of iran but then who's going to is it just going to be iran controlling it because we've given it the name or it seems like there it does seem to be an effort to get other forces to have control joint control over the straight. Like doesn't doesn't isn't it could be it could be bigger than just the straight though.

It could be like the straight of Hormuz could just be one at one element of it. And there could be other there's you know there's there's there's obviously the whole world is impacted by energy prices. So the straight of Hormous being shut down energy prices going up. Um, that disrupts as you just pointed out that disrupts a lot of other a lot of other sectors. I don't have the answer. I would love to speak to someone maybe like Alex Crainer who probably is more read in on like the oil industry and like understand okay who is who's taking the biggest beating here because we know that like the two companies that took the biggest beating in Venezuela were Conoco Philips and Exxon Mobil. Trump straight up told Exxon Mobil you can't come back to Venezuela you're out because they complained wait a minute you didn't actually overthrow anything it's still the same government and Trump was like okay if you're going to talk like that see you. And Connacle Phillips, he like humiliated on that level, yeah, on that level.

But on the higher level, China is really hurting as well for having had now the Venezuelan relationship really dissipate completely because now they're not allowed to do business really. There's very little business that's been permitted that was formerly being transacted settled in Chinese Yuan. Again, highly discounted. So China's really being hurt and cut off by that. That's not necessarily a great thing if we treat China as a positive. of player in things and not an evil doer as some have been led to believe. It's the same thing for Eurasia, you know, like all of Eurasia is getting highly destable. The Belt and Road Initiative is, it seems like it's gone now.

It's highly compromised by virtue of what's been unleashed with the bombing of Iran. That was like a key artery to make the Belt and Road initiative work. That's now really potentially going to go up and smoke with the Greater Israel Project is the outcome of this. They're not going to cooperate with that. I don't know, man. Like the north-south transportation quarter, that was the other backbone of the Eurasian cooperation program. That's been, like, highly destabilized with the U.S. control now over the last year of that, uh, that little strait in, uh, in Azerbaijan, that's not allowing for Russia to really build their, their projects properly or control that project or that artery.

So it doesn't seem good, man. It just seems bad. Yeah, see, but the way I'm looking at it is that greater Israel presents a, a common enemy. that is now bringing together every other country in the region who have not worked collaborated before. The on Talia diplomatic forum, I think it was last week in Turkey, where Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia met to discuss what are we going to do about Israel. I mean, that represents like the military might aside from Iran in the Middle East. countries, by the way, that 10 years ago we're not speaking to one another.

And now they're meeting discussing how are we going to collaborate and work together to take on this monster that's been unleashed on our region. So I think that we might actually see cooperation. Iraq is now working with both Syria and Saudi Arabia to pipe oil both to Saudi Arabia,

the Red Sea, but also to pipe oil up to Syria and the Mediterranean, bypassing Israel in both sides. So I don't don't think the greater is where project's going to work. I think the whole thing's going to bottom out collapse. Definitely likely. But just to demonstrate like one one example of what I was referring to earlier, this is, you know, lover hate Steve Bannon, whatever your opinion of him is, he does, I think, represent a, you know, he has his finger on the pulse of like the zeitgeist in the narrative.

Here is Bannon attacking Karp, Alex Karp, in Palantir, in the security state, the, the surveillance state using Israel as the as like the point of attack. They're building a surveillance state and they're putting this they put oh, we're going to give you a manifesto. And the manifesto is going to talk about we need everybody to have universal military service. We have to have, well, look, bro, this is not Israel. We understand carp is super pro Israel. This is not Israel.

You know, as a veteran that came out of the volunteer service, we don't want everybody, right? you don't need it's highly inefficient we now have self-selection of people that volunteer for the military i think anybody's professional in the military would not want universal universal service but they try to put a false front a false front of patriotism and nationalism when they're anything but these guys are the ultimate deep staters they provide the surveillance apparatus to take the deep state to a much darker place than it already is it's a pretty damn dark place well you know again this idea of surveillance. It makes sense when you're talking about surveilling your enemies, but these systems aren't just used for that. But your point is we are the enemy. The American people, that guy,

that guy in front of the town hall, Hollingsworth, he's the enemy. Yeah, if you have the system, yes, come on. If you have the system pointed outwards, I can see the justification, although there's a lot of questions. But the thing is, these systems are already being pointed inwards at us. And to the number two, number two, Prince Allow. Hollingsworth is a bigger. enemy of the surveillance state than, you know, some guy running around in, uh, in Iraq. Okay. I keep saying our problems are not in downtown Tehran. That's what car just like the Israelis.

They try to continue to convince you. And hey, the Arabs are just as bad. I'm not, I'm not selecting out just Israel for abuse here. The Arabs are worse. Now they're coming in with their hands out. We've got to finance them after Dubai. After they got all the bikini influencers in Dubai. now we got to finance it the enemy is colin is it hollingsworth yeah will hollingsworth is their enemy

right a basically somebody would stand up in a new england town hall and really fight for freedom and individuality and individual liberty that is a problem for car right because those people are sit there and go guess what we should not they are not they are decelerationist short break so you can see that uh it uh the attack vector here is not not just Israel. It's all of the things that are connected that are connected to it. And the last thing I'll show you is this. Did you see this article? UK special forces are resigning in mass over a war crimes probe related to their operations in Afghanistan and Syria. And so now SAS operators who were operating in those countries between 2010 and 2013 are now like all resigning because the whole,

their whole program is being investigated for war crimes that they may have committed. So, you know, like, as you, as you've explained and we discussed, and Cynthia has research, a lot of these special forces are often used in these, you know, color revolution operations. And now it looks like they're all resigning because they're being probed. Yeah. Well, a lot of them are. I know in the case of the United States, there's a number of them as well that are also facing some repercussions, Australia too. But yeah, I mean, this was interesting stuff. Let's just let's just add it there because I realize that it's almost 2 o'clock and I got to prepare for a 2 p.m. But yeah, we live in interesting times. That's for sure.

Now, I think one quick thing you and I were talking about is both of our schedules is getting a little bit intense. And we're discussing putting this our project here, our weekly show on a bit of a postponement. Or no, a certain period. We'll get back to it. but my as well the amount of deadlines and projects has really just piled on and to stay somewhat sane yeah I agree with that that idea is being good for the time being and then we can circle back so yeah let's keep doing that and jump on each other's shows as well on the off ramp I just began a a breaking free of siops program on Monday nights for those who don't know it's it's

Monday nights at 6 p.m. right before Ghost's a book of Trump at 730. Yeah. Yeah. We'll still get your taste of both of our thoughts on a weekly basis and ghost like five times a week. So yeah, man, I think that'll be good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

So, yeah, we'll circle back here in the next few weeks and see what schedules look like. And yeah, maybe we will find a different time block if we can or pre-record shows. But yeah, the next few weeks, it will be a little bit of a hiatus as we, adjust to new work schedules. Yes. For both of us. Exactly. All right.

So Gordon, always a pleasure. Thank you and thank you, everybody, for joining us this week's breaking history. Until next time. Thank you so much for joining us. And don't forget to hit the thumbs up on this video. And a special thank you to all of our advertising partners. Please remember to shift your dollars to support those businesses that support Badlands Media.