Badlands Media - Devolution Power Hour Ep. 437: Narrative Warfare, Iran, and the Battle Over “Israel for Last”
Episode Date: March 5, 2026Jon Herold and Burning Bright dive deep into the intense debate surrounding Trump, Iran, and the reaction from both the truth community and the broader public. The hosts examine the sudden narrative s...hifts happening online, particularly the evolving interpretation of the long-discussed phrase “Israel for last,” and how influencers and commentators adapt their positions in real time when major geopolitical events unfold. They also explore the psychology of the truth community, discussing why admitting you were wrong has become so difficult for many commentators, and how narrative control plays a central role in modern information warfare. The conversation expands into Trump’s strategic provocations, how public reaction itself may be part of a broader fifth-generation warfare environment, and the role narrative operations play in shaping political perception. Along the way, Jon and Burning Bright unpack how Trump’s actions often provoke outrage or confusion in the moment but may later appear strategic in hindsight. The episode ultimately asks whether current events surrounding Iran represent a real military escalation, a narrative operation, or something more complex unfolding beneath the surface.
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well good evening everybody and welcome to the wednesday edition of the devolution power hour as always and unfortunately
bernie bright has returned i'm bernie bright i come back to you at the turn of the tide i think i've been i this is not
I am burning white now.
I've been to the other side.
I encountered a Balrog of Morgoth
in the depths of Moria
and I fought him to the lowest dungeons
and the highest peaks
and smote his ruin upon the mountainside.
That's not what I heard.
I do know every line of Lord of the Rings in order.
That's not what I heard you did.
Somewhat doubted until I started reciting the movie to her
when we initially lost power.
Well, I'm glad you survived the winter storms, to say the least.
It was pretty bad.
Yeah, you are very white, though.
I'll give you that.
Yeah, like a white walker.
Burning white.
I think we should stick with that, a little stick.
But yeah, man, since the last time you've been on, well, first of all, last week we had
Alpha fill in.
It's pretty good discussion.
Probably a lot of things left unsaid.
We'll have to do it again soon.
But then in the meantime, from then until now, we have had a,
minor conflict breakout in the Middle East.
And I think we're probably going to spend a little time talking about that tonight.
A little bit.
We don't even have like, normally when we do shows, we'll have at least a couple
stories or headlines or something lined up that we'll talk about.
We don't have that really.
I sent you some the other day that I said.
I know, but normally I, okay, normally I have that stuff.
I didn't have a bunch of tabs open that we could click through.
But this probably will end up being a little more conceptual.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
There's a couple like feedback things I want to get from the chat to and you in terms of how the normies are feeling with what's going on.
So I think there's some conversation to be had around that as well.
We've got to figure out how we're defining those these days.
That's true.
I was saying in our private chat, you know, is it something where if you try to wake up the normies too hard, do you run the risk of becoming a normie?
And then putting the normies to sleep.
Like a contact high.
I think we need to have this discussion.
We will.
So we'll see what happens.
But there's something else that's going to bring up here in the intro to you.
Now I cannot remember what that was.
The problem of the Jews?
No.
I don't think it was.
I mean, backstage.
I'm thinking about it.
Every problem is a Jew problem depending on how you look at it.
But no, I don't think it was that.
I don't know.
maybe it'll come to me, maybe not.
But whatever.
You excited to come to guard?
Yeah, it's funny.
In February, it felt like it was ages away.
And then the calendar flips.
And it's like, oh, man, that's right over there.
It's like 34 days away.
Yeah.
Paid the final deposit for the venue.
So we can't back out anymore, you guys.
So make sure.
Well, you can back out.
Everybody else can, I think.
Yeah, I guess the rest of you can.
But you can just kind of have a party yourself and old speeches, do some
streams. Yeah, well, depending how the ops go this way around this time around, you know,
maybe that'll happen. We'll see. They've already started. Yeah, they're starting in our chats
early, but they're pretty, you know, low this time. Yeah, they tend to lose their effectiveness
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You should talk for a second because I'm trying to find our other, our updated tiny bright commercial.
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if I ever get mulled by an abnormally large
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that's going to implicate you
pretty directly
how would I control an otter like that man
it's true you can't even control a regular size
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uh okay
while I'm getting that pulled up
we'll just uh let's start
with this conversation because I'm curious what you guys in the chat and like you
Bernie right I know you have like your other job your normie Twitter you know I have my
my friends that I talk to and other people that are outside of our bubble I'm curious what
vibe you guys are getting from them about the conflict that's going out right now because I think
it's interesting and I want to know where everybody's heads are at heading into those pesky midterms
like my golf buddies there's a interesting mix of people a couple people in the financial realm one guy sells um like energy stuff you know
it's not like gas but he works it's a gas company it's he sells one of their other products and then
a former national guard guy who sells stuff for bobcat like he's uh he purchases um equipment and
supplies and stuff so pretty good mix most of them i would say are overall against
The conflict, they don't like it, they don't want it.
The one guy that's like, I understand, I see it.
Like, let's just do it, get it over with.
It's just the strikes.
I'm cool with it, whatever is the National Guard guy.
Yeah, overall, it's a, I would say a negative vibe on the conflict in the Middle East.
So that's my, my group of people.
What are yours feeling?
Yeah, I, this is where my overuse of the word bicameral fits well.
And I think this is where the.
conversations keep getting lost a little bit with some of the the truth community.
I believe that Trump is executing a masterstroke with what he's doing there.
That's all based on what I think is going on.
And I know I've seen some of your clips and some of your posts this week.
I think we're largely generally on the same page of how we see, you know,
generally what's going on here.
The irony is I was going to say on an actual level,
but I kind of mean on an actual narrative level.
I think there's a lot of narrative disentanglement going on.
Maybe we can save that for kind of the bulk of our discussion.
But you've got to be able to go by camera with this and say,
you can believe if you're a Q person, a truth community person,
an info war person, which if you're watching this show, you probably are.
You can believe strongly that Donald Trump is executing
or is a part of a major fifth generation warfare campaign
that will ultimately result in net good
and therefore be ironically cheering for what's going on
through that framing.
I don't think that there's a problem with that.
I'm kind of entertained by what's going on
in my own weird way.
I think you and Chris are similar.
But with that said,
The problem I'm seeing is when you talk about the Normies, whether that's like Normie conservatives or Normie liberals, they are looking at all this on an actual basis.
They're looking at the news, including the news coming out of the White House.
This is not just the fake news.
This is what the White House is telling everybody about what they're doing.
You can't blame Normieville for reacting to the things the Trump administration says.
it's doing in an honest manner. It's ridiculous to criticize Normies for criticizing things that Trump
says he is doing. The irony of my positive views on what Trump is doing is I don't think a lot of
what he is doing is what they are telling us they are doing, which goes to a point that you make a lot
on this show, which is that Donald Trump is directly engaged, in my opinion, in psychological
warfare operations that also impact the American people. Whether or not you're okay with that is a
whole other argument. But most people here, including people in the Q community, believe that,
which by definition means Donald Trump lies to the American people. It's just that if you think he's
lying to the American people for the benefit of them because he's working on these crazy fifth-gen
Psiops, which is what I think is going on. We can maybe twist ourselves into knots and say that
he's not lying if you look at it from a certain direction. But from a normie perspective, those are
lies, right? So, you know, my baseline would be when I watch, I've been saying in private chat lately,
there's an ironic thing going on where I think 2008, 2010 liberal Burning Bright would beat
most truth community people in an earnest debate right now on the geopolitical front
because most of the truth community is not trying to figure out what's actually going on in
Iran and that there might be a disarmament going on. There's a lot of fog of war and smoke
and mirrors. Most of what I've seen is the just earnest, unironic cheering for a surface-level
narrative, which is a regime change operation in Iran and the bombing of Tehran and a wider geopolitical
conflict, the strangulation of Chinese energy exports, the owning of Russia and the breaking of their
alliances from all the same truthers who are talking about sovereign alliance stuff the rest of the
year. So from that perspective, Normieville looks a hell of a lot better right now than a lot
of the truth community. And I do separate a lot of our audience from that because a lot of our
audience watches a lot of the shows at Badlands because they do think that there's more going on here.
Yeah, and that's the thing. The key word there I would say is think. A lot of us think we're right
about a lot of things. And this is something I've been kind of talking about on my daily show the last
couple days, but it's the willingness to acknowledge how often we're truly speculating about
most things like even the devolution theory guys it's a theory right i'm very confident and how accurate
i am about the theory hasn't been proven yet um maybe it never will be but at the end of the day
there's a certain level of speculation and and almost a a good level of faith that we have to operate on
to figure out like what we think is going on and then as things unfold it can you know map onto
reality as as chris would say but there's a lot of people online in the case
community in our community and sometimes we fall victim to this ourselves too is we're we're very
confidently and adamantly 100% certain that we're right about what is going on right now and
the the pattern I'm seeing and this was kind of highlighted with um I think we can talk about it
other people on here have been been talking about it is uh yeah we're talking in the chat about
somebody got muted.
Yeah. Hey man, Brad, if he deserves it, he deserves it.
I defer to Brad's judgment.
Yeah, I do too.
I mean, he deserves it. He deserves it.
If he needs a couple nights.
If he needs a couple nights off.
Yeah.
Of being muted, then that's fair.
He probably did something he shouldn't have.
Anyway, that's talking about the chat.
But, okay, so what I'm saying is, is like, let's talk about the Julian's Rum thing
real quick.
Okay. Julian's rum, you did a show with him for a little while. Yeah. Yeah. Good dude known him like through messages. I've never actually met him in person, but we've spoken quite a bit. I think he's earnest. He's one of the OGQ guys. And he comes out and he has a post and a lot of people were not happy about his post. I don't even know if you want to pull it up. We can even read it. Yeah. Let me find it just for context. Yeah. Because what he posted is a very
real and organic feeling that
people who don't trust the plan as hard as others
are feeling right now about Trump and what they're witnessing.
And it's an understandable one.
That's not a feeling I personally share.
But I think it's something that we should talk about
because it's not so much his post itself
that concerns me.
I mean, it's obviously a little concerning
that people get to that point,
especially considering his history with being one of the OGQ guys
and whatnot.
not, but it's also the reaction to his post, the reaction from the people in the truth
community that I, it's a little concerning.
Like, I know Julian's Rum, or I think I know, Julian's Rum is a well-intentioned dude.
Young family, he's not one of those that's like, he's a very smart guy too, a very smart
guy.
Like, I've been saying for a while now that even though we believe the golden age is coming,
and all these things, we haven't felt the effects of it yet.
Like, I haven't seen economically or financially in my personal day to day, things change.
I'm still only a millionaire.
I'm not a billionaire yet.
And this is like very frustrating, you know, that things haven't like escalated.
But, but for real, like, he's feeling that too.
Other people are really feeling that way.
And at a certain point, you get fed up.
And this is what he said.
I voted for Trump.
I won't be voting again.
Many young conservatives feel the same way.
We're sick of this shit.
And the whole thing just set off this firestorm.
and I see people online in the Q community and like truth broader truth community
there's this weird like rift going on where everybody who disagrees with what you think is
happening is a paid infiltrator that's the go-to accusation oh you just must be a paid infiltrator
and there probably are some of those on both sides but it's a right now the syran conflict
is the perfect embodiment of the cheerleader dumer spectrum that I've been like talking about the
past couple weeks because it's playing out in real time. And so they're vilifying people who don't
agree with what they think is going on, yet they advocate for what they think is going on as if
they know with 100 percent certainty it's going on. But then when you look into like their
previous history of commentary on the region or the topics or whatever, it's a total inversion of
what they said before. Yeah. You flip flop, flip flop, flip flop on the topic of what you think
is happening. And then right now with, you know, you for years, we're talking about how Trump would never
get into the number of war he's done with that stuff we were not even going to bomb these people
it is unconstitutional that these past presidents did these bombings trump is never going to do that
and then now you're cheerleading it on like everybody's become neocons now the things we've been fighting
and it's a total inversion of what they were before and now they're vilifying people who
are ironically arguing the points that you used to make it's just it's such a weird cluster
fuck in the it is community and i think it has an effect on the normies too because
the normies who are coming into this like trying to figure out what's going to looking at the
social media trying to figure out what's going on.
How do you think they're going to respond to that?
Nobody's going to be willing to even like speak their mind out of threat of being called a paid
infiltrator or whatever.
It's just so dumb.
Yeah, it's there's a lot of layers to this.
And again, I'd lead by saying that if you espouse those previous positions on saying
you don't think, for example, the position you just brought up, that you don't think Donald
Trump is going to get us involved in any new forever wars. That is a reasonable position to have
held last week and last year and last decade. I still hold that position now. And that is the
consistent thing. I might not be right about that. I don't believe that Donald Trump is getting us
involved in a new forever war. But when I'm presented with these seeming contradictions, which is, I think,
what separates people who figured fifth generation warfare out to some degree and people who use
5GW in their Twitter bios every day, but don't actually understand what that is, you have to try
to reconcile the seeming contradiction, right? You have to say, I don't think, I didn't believe
Donald Trump would get us involved in a new Forever war. He appears to be doing that right now.
Do I believe he is doing that and was wrong about my previous position? That could be the
case, or is there a way to view this wherein he is not doing that?
Oh, definitely.
Did he maybe tell us exactly how he's not?
Like, that's a whole separate conversation, right?
Yeah.
But on the Julian's run point, if you're not doing that, like Normieville, the American mind,
can't be expected to be playing fifth dimensional chess and narrative inversion games.
They are supposed to be looking at what the president is telling them he is doing.
and reacting to that in an honest manner, right?
And there's a couple follow-ups that, Julian, that I just saw when I pulled the tweets up that he posted there.
I won't go through all of them, but there's a couple of them that I thought were worth sharing,
where he said, too many Trump supporters who consider themselves red-pilled are still utterly unwilling to admit that Israel lies at the core of America's problems.
That's why I'm being such an asshole about it.
It's time to face this simple reality.
Now, nobody's, I was going to say nobody's going after ghost for this, but they do go after ghost every day for this.
And then he says, it's not blackpilling to say this is the opposite of what I voted for.
I think I'll stop voting.
It's not betrayal.
It's communication that my vote needs to be earned.
It's the whole fucking point.
If there's a plan, me not voting has already been planned for anyways.
So funny.
Which is similar to the Chris Paulism of nothing can stop what's coming except for all of these things that can stop what's coming.
That's the safe act, yeah.
And then I didn't see that he did this because I actually like don't look at anybody's feeds on Twitter.
I just post notes there.
But he retweeted me retweeting you.
And you had this great post yesterday or two days ago.
Maybe we should read that.
Maybe we should read that because you should read this.
It's a post that is that kind of sums up this whole thing.
Yeah, because I was kind of victim to the hate for a little bit.
On Saturday morning, I woke up, was kind of scrambling to get my kids ready to,
to go to swimming, swimming lessons.
And I saw that, you know, hey, we bombed.
I ran.
And this was like a day or two after I just posted this whole thing about how, you know,
Trump is the president of peace.
He's end of day wars.
There's this weird op going on right now where they're trying to make it seem like he's doing
something that he hasn't yet.
I was like, just like don't fall for the siop.
And then I posted, let me see if I can find it.
I posted a follow up that was like, well, looks like I, uh, looks like I, uh, looks
like I was wrong or something.
When was that?
Did I post that Thursday, I think?
Friday.
Saturday was the start of this, right?
Let me see if I can find the actual.
Yeah, I said this didn't age well.
Very unfortunate to wake up this morning and see Trump taking us to war,
indefensible.
And realistically, I probably, if I could go back in time, I would use a different
word than indefensible.
but regardless
I don't really care about that
but this is the post I've got to find
myself here so I can read it because that is way too small
I've got it on oh you can't see it
yeah I mean I guess I could put my glasses on but I don't want to
um how about you just read it for me
it takes me forever to find this
allow me to try to explain my position better
so this was actually um
John said it's weird I found it
I can read it if you want
give him some context
yeah so Chris Stevenson
says not sure it's about being offended or here it's weird that you people get so offended at me
for being a trump supporter who is opposed to american involvement in foreign wars i'm going to take you off
and put my screen up sorry we're kind of all over the place with this guys but i do find that weird
like i think you can do both things on once and then chris stevenson good dude follower for a while
says uh not sure it's about being offended you built a following around taking a step back and
thinking through the trump what the trump orbit is really doing at the time it seems we are getting to a
breaking point around many complex dynamics. You decide to virtue signal in a very simplified way.
None of us want foreign war, but we have been through a track record of happenings and have built
faith that the Trump orbit is doing some heavy complex lifting. I think people are surprised that
you aren't be more careful, thoughtful with this. And I said, allow me to try to explain my position
better. I think it's broadly accepted amongst the truth community that Trump is constantly conducting
siops. So with that understanding, it would be retarded to agree with and cheerlead for everything
Trump did and said. A good example is when Trump advocated for taking the vaccine, many of his supporters
chose not to, especially those who believe there are bigger things going on behind the scenes.
When people discuss why Trump advocated for the poison, we understood there to be some 5G warfare
at play. Trump did something many people didn't agree with. We didn't blindly listen to what he said.
We don't blindly cheerlead him when he kept bringing this up. Instead, we advocated for our displeasure
while still supporting him throughout. Was that virtue signaling? In my opinion, the best way to not get
sucked into all the siops is to operate based on your first principles.
You're going to advocate for things I believe in.
Sometimes that's in line with what Trump says and does.
Sometimes that's not.
My first principles are mine and I don't expect anybody to share them with me.
I also don't expect to always be correct.
I can do that while understanding the bigger picture.
One of the things I believe in is that Americans should not be involved in foreign wars.
I believe doesn't change just because Trump is the one doing it.
You said none of us want foreign war.
So why are so many cheerleading it?
If Biden or Obama was the one doing these bombings,
what would the reaction be? I believe I understand much of the geopolitical complexity of the situation.
I think I get the game theory behind the strikes. I know Trump has access to far more information than
anybody else in the world. I obviously trust that he knows what he's doing and is doing so with
our best interest in mind. I also have no love lost for the evil people our military is taking out.
Trump will always have my support and my trust. He has earned those for me 10x, but that didn't
that shouldn't require me to cheerlead Americans fighting and dying in foreign wars. Those are not
mutually exclusive. I'm going to navigate the info war while advocating for things based on my first
principles, even when there are negative social incentives for doing so. And by the way, much like
Trump's continued support for the vaccines, this Iran situation is largely unpopular to the broader
public outside of our social media bubble. Imagine a normie coming onto Twitter trying to find out what's
going on and finding that many people in the truth community are shitting on people for not blindly
cheerleading the Iran strikes. We shouldn't have to advocate for things just because we trust the plan or
whatever. So you go ahead with what you were. Yeah. And I just thought it was notable that, you know,
I would have like before when you brought up Julian's Rum's original tweet there, I was going to
bring up this post and say like, this could have been what he meant. I didn't know that he had
literally retweeted this post. So my post? Yeah. Well, he reached, I retweeted you and you retweeted me. But
that's, you know, he was retweeting that as the main argument.
And, you know, that's, that's obviously, obviously he agrees with it.
And I think it adds nuance here because I think your post, the thing that's, that's good about it is you're, you're talking about how I set this framing up by saying, if you follow and study fifth generation warfare, which most of us do in the info war, I always say if you use the term info war, then on some level you're trying to understand fifth gen warfare.
You know it's being used, right, for you and against you.
Julian's rum, most people were reacting to him as if he doesn't know that that is going on.
The irony of that is that for anybody who is not aware, he's like an OG among OGs of Q people.
I started following the Q drops within a week of them going live.
And Julian's rum was there right at the very beginning.
You know, he had a super viral video retweeted by Trump a long time ago.
earnest guy, like you said earlier, doesn't mean I necessarily agree with his first post.
I think his first post makes total sense on a surface level reading of what's going on.
I think his later retweet of your post acknowledges that he is aware that there is fifth
generation warfare going on that he does not know, that none of us know.
And as you said earlier, like Chris talking about the discombobulator, me talking about narrative
disentanglement. Like these are our theories. A lot of us feel very strongly about these things.
But we don't know if that's what's going on. These are just our reads on these things.
But I think a lot of people are having difficulty separating those viewpoints out, which is why I liked your post, to say, hey, how many people in the Q and Truth community constantly use the refrain of waking up the normies, right?
like we don't actually do that like at badlands most of us don't actually even believe that that is the goal
anymore and that that's not my goal my goal isn't to wake up normies i don't even associate with normies
anymore like i don't think that that's the goal and i used to i used to think that was the goal
but so many people in the truth community still think waking up the normies is the goal and if you
think this is waking them up ironically you might be right
But the funny thing is, them criticizing the appearance of a new forever war in the Middle East is good.
It's good, right?
Like, in other words, if I was to take like the Q drops at face value and Donald Trump as a master of fifth gen warfare and Trump, how many times has Trump talked about, I take all these slings and arrows?
Do you guys think the slings and arrows Trump is talking about is just the media being mean to him?
You need he gives a fuck about the media?
Day one, he didn't care about the media slings and arrows, right?
What is he talking about?
I'm starting to think it's stuff like this.
Donald Trump is waking up the normies by provoking them into taking principled stances
against all of the things that they used to cheer for.
How many Orange Man Bad people are cheering against or are rooting against
all the neocan bullshit that they blindly cheered for both the Bush and Obama administrations on the back of.
And now they're pissed, right? So, and I'm not, I'm not pretending I had this take like years ago, but now I'm starting to think, like, who are the people that Trump actually probably in his private moments is like, ah, I wish they kind of knew what I was really trying to do for them? I don't think it's Politico or CNN. It's Julian's Rum. It's the people like that that Trump's,
like that's like one of my guys right like that is one of my guys julian's rum and to get him to the
point where he's like i'm fucking mad about what is going on right now i don't think it's actually a
bad thing i think it's like what are these people arguing against what are the the stupid normie
liberals on your twitter feed is it tinged by orange man bad and they just want to get the orange man
yes of course it is but are their stances principle
Yes. Like they're all saying, hey, I hope this doesn't turn into a forever war. And in fairness to them, every, every presser that Pete Hegseff gets out there and gives, at least Trump gives us these nuggets of, you know, to hint at the game theory that might be going on here with his Israel comments and everything. He's given us like good eating with all the Trump conferences. But Pete, Pete Hegsteth gets up there and talks like an insufferable need.
Neo-Con Warhawk over and over again, and the MAGA base just cheers for him.
And if you superimposed a Pete Hegeseth press conference from March 3rd over a Donald Rumsfeld press conference from 2002,
it would be the same press conference word for word.
And I wouldn't be surprised if they're using those as templates.
Did Donald Rumsfeld say a squatter in one of his press conferences?
He might have referenced the squatters.
Yeah.
I don't remember him.
I feel like that would have been a meme or something at some point.
But, no, I think you made a really interesting point there, almost accidentally, because I know you didn't do it on purpose.
But the fact that, like, it's almost a good cop, bad cop, like Chris says, we've talked about this concept a lot, how Trump's the Lightning Rod.
It'll take both sides of the same issue, and then eventually we'll find the principal answer in the middle, and that's like the way we should be going.
Well, Trump campaigned on no wars.
His first term was about ending wars and all these things.
He's done some strikes.
he's done some discombobulating but here the story we're getting is like we are bombing the shit
of iran right now we aren't sure why we're doing it we're getting conflicting reports we're being
lied to about why we got into it some say that it's you know because of israel like we did it for them
some saying it's well we had intel that they were going to bomb us first then some are saying well
you know we we just had like we're not getting the right answer we're gonna knock in the truth
we don't know why we're doing it and there's people taking the principled stance we have
people who are anti-Trump now against the forever wars the only people that want this war and
are cheerleading this war are the warhawk neocons and a good section of the truth community yeah
everybody else is against it whether that's by principle or the trumped arrangement but either way
like that's what i think the answer should be that's at least my principles is we shouldn't
be doing getting involved in these middle east wars at all um but it's a really interesting
thing that trump is the one that can get everybody or at least most people
to the right place on the same issue.
And yet somehow some people are just all in on it.
And that's the community that prides themselves on being the truth community.
That's why I don't I don't understand.
Even if it is for sciop reasons, even if it is for other reasons, we can claim we think we know.
We're not.
It's not the London fucking bankers, by the way, guys.
The Promethean action stuff.
Go read Matt Erritt's substack today.
He kind of put a kibosh on that in a pretty emphatic way.
He did a really good job.
that narrative that's being pushed about like the the London bankers and stuff I wasn't even sure like I didn't really want to touch it um and then until I saw his article and it's like oh well obviously that that's ridiculous so go check that out I'd encourage you to I well his sub stack is Matthew erritt E H RETT no what I'll put the link in the chat here it's it's called this how mega influencers are more
into neocons. Check it out. I don't remember where I was going to end that with. But anyway, you guys, that's interesting point. Yeah. And I think the point you made there, too, about the truth community, again, I do think there's a discombobulator in effect here. And I think that we are going to see Trump come out of this looking really good. The difference, I think, between us and some of these other people is that when I say something like that, which I did on Saturday, I lay out what that would look like.
Right? Like a lot of people are just like this is going to look good for Trump. Don't worry about it while cheering for bombs dropping.
And it's like, okay, well, that's not really, you're not really trying to figure out anything.
You're not really trying to understand whether or not anything here is good or bad or anything in between.
So I just kind of laid out like, hey, if you start seeing the media, start the warmonger media, the neocons, start turning on Trump within the next few days.
That's going to be your first marker.
If you start seeing the Israelis start turning on your Trump, that's going to be another marker, right?
And what did we see?
One day later, John Bolton turned on Trump.
Three days later or four days later, Netanyahu is a little upset with him that he's talking to some people, right?
The reason those are signs is those are signs that this is fifth generation warfare and that not all is as it seems.
The criticism of parts of the truth community that you're bringing up still holds in that scenario.
We're not criticizing people for thinking that Donald Trump has a plan and is ultimately doing the right thing.
I agree with that.
We're criticizing people who think that getting us into a new war is the right thing.
I don't think that's what Donald Trump is doing.
And I think that's the distinction that people are having a hard time with.
Like, oh, are you against Trump?
No, I'm for Trump.
I think you're cheering for Trump for the wrong reasons.
And I think he's probably sitting there being like, oh, my God.
God, these people really think we're getting into new Forever War, and they're all just cheering for it.
And Chris used this term earlier in our private chat, and I've been using it for a long time about neocons and conning kidflogers saying that they've been using MAGA as a skin suit.
They've been wearing MAGA as a skin suit.
And I certainly believe a lot of people are doing that with the Q community.
Again, the irony of the people that dogpiled Julian's rum is that guy is 10 times the fucking Q decoder and ODCode.
an OG Q guy as most of the people that are still left in the movement.
And in fact, two of the guys that are still at Badlands, Jordan Sathor and Brad, I always try to
bring up as OG as OG gets, Q decoders, that half of the Q community shits on constantly
now because they actually have principled stances and use the drops in a principled logically
consistent manner, whether or not they're right.
And I think the biggest, last point on this would be the biggest marker that I've seen
that demonstrates the hypocrisy going on right now is most of the Q community has been using the quote
Israel for last for the last decade and you fucking know if you're watching the show and you're a Q person
you know exactly what they meant by it over the last 10 years you know exactly what the implication of that was
what do they mean what did they tell me generally speaking the implication was that Israel is
going to be exposed. Israel, because the context of those drops were all about rooting out the deep
state. And they said this was also in the context of the rooting out of the deep state beginning
with the Saudi Arabia purge of 2017, which was what Q-pilled me. That was what made me be like
that whoever is behind these drops has real intelligence of what is going on in the future
because they called the Saudi purge days before it happened.
And that's one of the biggest geopolitical events that we've seen the last decade, right?
So they said, that's the start and Israel for last.
So what's the context there?
That's my interpretation.
But most Q people over the last decade have been clearly implying the context
is that Israel is going to be the most difficult deep state element to take out.
I don't mean the nation of Israel.
I mean the evil twin, as Chris would say, element within Israel.
And then on Saturday, half of those cue fluencers flipped on a dime to saying,
we told you, Israel for last meant Donald Trump and Israel are going to work together to take out the deep state.
That might be true.
Yeah, in Iran.
That might be what's going on, right?
I might be totally wrong about that.
Ghost might be totally wrong about that.
What I'm saying is those people did not believe that on Friday.
They did not go to sleep Friday night believing Israel for last meant Israel is going to save the world.
On Saturday morning, that's what they believe.
And by the way, guys, clip this out because I bet within a few weeks they're going to go right back to that earlier framing of it.
And we're already getting some headlines that make it seem like Israel's not that happy with the communications Donald Trump.
or may not be having with Iran right now. So then how do we frame Israel for last? It's just to say that
people change their readings of these things, but don't admit that they're changing it. When what
you have to do is say like, hey, I used to think this about interpretation. New information has come
to light, I was wrong. And for some reason, large swaths of the truth community believe that
admitting you were wrong about something means that you're not a truther anymore when it's like the
ultimate proof of having been one.
Yeah. It's also, you know, it's not even that part.
Like, everybody gets stuff wrong.
And it is what it is. It's kind of gross, you know, for the people who don't admit it and try to change.
In fact, some people delete posts. I've seen that. Caught people doing that.
I had people ask me to delete my post that where I said indefensible.
I was like, I'm never going to delete a post. Like, if I'm wrong about something,
I'm wrong about something. I'll own up to it. It is what it is. I don't care.
It's, it's the way that it's there.
behavior towards other people who didn't change their stance who are upset by this because the whole
Israel for last thing, that prior interpretation, this would kind of fly in the face of that.
It's like, you know, this is not what we think is going on. This is, you know, against my first
principles or whatever. Now the people who flipped their stance are attacking those people who didn't
change at all and like trying to accuse them of being something they're not. It's ridiculous. It's gross.
Well, it is what it is. Which is exactly Julian's run. He's had that.
stance from the beginning he might be wrong about it but that's been his stance so like
let's let's change this story to a different type of story from Trump right so like the
way we saw everybody flip-flop into being against forever wars then all the sudden
neocons overnight we love this this is great it what about endorsements okay think
Lindsay Graham Trump is endorsing Lindsay Graham again and there's rumors he's gonna endorse
corn in John Corny in Texas I don't know
he has yet. But his endorsements are by no means representative of what we think is going on,
right? Like nobody likes Lindsey Graham that I that I know of yet Trump keeps endorsing them.
Are we supposed to cheerlead for Lindsey Graham then because Trump endorsed them?
If you follow the same logic and the same behavior, yeah, you should. But yet for some reason
with that, they won't even maybe really address it with a big story like Iran. And maybe it's
because it's such a big story that they can't not talk about it. And they have to pretend like
they understand what's going on and they know exactly the details and this is what they told you
all along. So they just like flip the script and very adamantly, you know, portray as if they know
what's happening while trying to attack other people. But they don't do that with the smaller,
more insignificant stuff. And it's, I don't know, patterns. But we should stop talking about like the community
stuff. I was more so wanted to get into the normie discussion over this because I think that's where
not that I care whether the normies wake up, but it's more of a curiosity of how.
people outside of our bubble feel about this because I mean man we've been in this
position here at Badlands where we've been trying to pursue the truth and the truth
to us is that not everything deserves to be cheer led and it just it almost
seems like there's stacking and compounding things that to the outside
outside of our bubble who believe there's something bigger that it's gonna
chip away at their potential like you know
midterm support, let's say, not that, not everybody cares about the midterm stuff until our elections are fixed, but that is a, that is a real thing. And so how do we reconcile that with what we think is going on, what we think is coming? And, but I don't know, we didn't quite go down that path, but maybe that's, well, those are the other thing we should get into. Yeah, to revisit. I do, I do want to get into, because you and I haven't done a show on, I want to get into what we actually might think Trump is doing here. Yeah.
You know, we might be wrong about that, but that's the fun shit.
That's why we do this, right?
Yeah.
But on the Normie point, the point I made a little bit ago about Trump provoking them, you know,
I used to think, I used to kind of use that framing and I used to think of that a little bit more trust the plan framing.
Like, I used to think Trump is provoking all of them and he's doing it to get them engaged in the narrative.
And then they're going to see the truth like all of us have.
I still believe part of that.
I believe the first part.
I do believe Donald Trump is provoking them.
Or at the very least, he knows that what he does is going to provoke these kind of reactions, right?
Like, I think everybody could agree with that.
Whatever you think is going on with Iran, Donald Trump is not surprised by the reaction to it.
He's an extremely savvy guy.
I think even the media would say Donald Trump is probably not surprised here.
He's a very savvy, you know, he's a very savvy.
he's savvy when it comes to the culture.
Yeah, and I think we just a real quick side note.
We've talked about for many years how we believe that they have access to like levels of
information about us and levels of like the polls, he always calls the polls fake.
Well, how do you know if the polls are fake unless you know what the real numbers are, right?
Exactly.
He's got access to the vibe and the mandate or whatever on all these different topics based
on our social media shit.
they're surveilling the shit out of us, guys.
It's just reality.
Palantir, all the info they can collect on us.
If you don't think that they're using that to their benefit
with whatever they're doing behind the scenes,
you're lying to yourself.
And so they know exactly how strikes in Iran
are polling or we're pulling or the thought of it
and how they, you know, it's probably not what everybody wanted.
They're probably more surprised than anything
about some of the positive reactions to it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly what I wanted to say is that the,
If Trump is disappointed at anybody right now, I think it's the people unironically cheering for Operation Epic Fury.
And by that I mean, I think Operation Epic Fury, there might be actuals going on, right?
But I think it is largely a narrative operation, a fifth generation warfare operation.
That doesn't mean it's fake.
It means it's a narrative deployment, which is what Fifth Generation warfare is.
It is so amazing to me still that we have people in the truth community who do not think narratives are the driver of fifth generation warfare when it is what defines fifth generation warfare according to the United States military.
Like, it's not just according to conspiracy theorists.
So that's what I think is going on.
But I think that Trump, to your point, is probably like, guys, if you're cheering for Epic Fury, you should be cheering for the fifth gen warfare.
deployment operation epic fury not the appearance of what the media is telling you about it but yeah i mean
i think to go back to that earlier point i think he's provoking the collective mind where i've changed
my mind is that it's the slings and arrows refrain i think man i think about the dark night trilogy
so often with trump and that that analog has only deepened to me in the last couple of years
think about the ending to the Dark Night.
It's funny you just brought up Palantir.
And I promise this makes sense.
Remember the,
remember how Bruce Wayne
in that movie, Batman has all this tech,
right, by Lucius Fox, Morgan Freeman
is kind of his tech guy.
I haven't watched The Dark Night as many times as you have.
Okay. Well, there's an infamous scene
where toward the end of the movie,
Batman is surveilling the cell phones
and communications of everybody in Gotham.
city all at once and he's trying to sift through is this the is this the one where he goes
into the pit and that's like work his way out and come back next one this is okay so is this the one
with bane and like on the plane joker the joker okay sorry it's got these straight it's been a long time
you're watching these man it'll blow your mind with trump framing you know a while ago i was like i should
really rewatch those and then you started talking about it and i'm i can't ever watch these again
they fit so well it's uncanny but in this scene Bruce Wayne is using
surveillance on the civilians of Gotham in order to find the the joker's plants, the terrorists, basically.
And Lucius Fox, who gave him this technology that he retrofitted, is like morally outraged by what Bruce Wayne is doing.
Because he's like, hey, you're supposed to be the good guy. What the fuck?
And Bruce is like, I know. I understood that you would have this principled reaction to what I'm doing.
but I also know that you're not going to stop me because you know that I'm using it for good.
And Lucius is like, yeah, you're right, but I quit.
And Bruce knew he was going to do that.
And it's a perfect example of Bruce using a technology that we would say is immoral for good.
And Lucius understanding that that's what he's doing, but not liking it.
And like both of them understand each other in that moment.
And the reason I draw that analog to Trump and Palanty,
First of all, that is what Palantir does.
It gives unlimited, like, godlike access to everybody's data all at once.
I do not think it was invented by the good guys.
I do think it's been commandeered by them, however, which is exactly what Bruce Wayne does in that movie.
And at the end of the Dark Night, like the thing that people don't really talk about that movie, even though they quoted a lot, Batman is a bad guy at the end of the Dark Night.
The Dark Night ends with the citizens of Gotham City believing that Batman is the bad guy.
guy and that's when commissioner gordon says he's not the hero we deserve he's the one we need right now
and i'm thinking about donald trump in navigating these narratives and like taking all the slings and arrows
and all of normieville being furious at him but in the bunker in the back cave trump is looking at the
normies to your point and going yes yes where was this during obama where was this during george bush you should be
against this. You should be against regime change. You should be against foreign involvement in wars.
And where I think it's ultimately going as an end state is I do think that there's a resolution
possible here, not just in Iran. I mean, in general, the way Trump navigates these things,
where even the normies, they might not think Trump was a master of fifth gen warfare and
navigated us through this crisis. But I do think that the pattern that's going to unfold and is
unfolding rapidly over Trump 2.0, even for the Normies is going to start to encode this
grudging acknowledgement that, you know, every time Trump does something totally crazy,
it seems to work out.
Yeah.
And like, I'm not saying that's how, that's what they think right now.
But if you use your imagination and just say, we get an Iranian peace deal and there's
peace in the Middle East by the end of Trump's term that nobody's ever been able to do.
I think even Normies will look back at this and be like, man, I don't know if he planned that,
but I do know that he ended up fixing the problem.
So I think that that's kind of like the dialectic we're seeing unfold.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's obviously the hope here, right?
Is that if there's anybody that's going to break the mold of the Forever Wars, it's him.
but to
present it as if we know that
with the level of certainty, like that is going to happen.
I don't think we can operate that way.
But in that metaphor, are we Lucius then?
Are we the ones that are like, we're quitting?
Julian's rum, I would say, is Lucius.
Well, we could be.
Because, yeah, we think we know what he's doing
and we think he's doing it for good reasons.
But, you know, I actually don't think it's more than that.
But we opt out of the sciops.
Yeah, yeah, we opt out of the sciops.
That's a good way to put it.
Try to.
Yeah.
But no, I think you're right.
That's obviously, guys, I know what I understand nobody likes war and we all think this is different.
Like I agree.
I think this is going to end up being different.
That's the hope.
But because we don't know that for a fact and that is speculation, you can't operate based on that speculation.
That's my whole point on that whole thing.
But let's get a quick commercial break and then we'll come back and maybe get into some of the other stuff around, you know, the Iran war or whatever.
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That roar reminds me, John,
that roar that could not emanate from an otter,
even if it was a large otter.
Do you know what separates a big cat
from a great cat?
A big cat?
It's not a joke, it's an actual biological fact.
A big cat
from a what?
from a great cat.
So you know like a big cat, like a leopard, a tiger.
Yeah.
Like that's what we refer to as a big cat.
Okay.
There's big cats and then there is a subcategory of big cats called great cats.
Do you know the four great cats and what separates them from the big cats?
I don't.
And I feel like I may not care.
Try to name them.
See, if you can name one, it's probably should be pretty obvious.
obvious what would be like the greatest cat really a lion how dare you think of me
think of your best friend I'm not gonna say it so a lion is one of the great
cats okay well see I had a right so don't say no it's a lion a tiger a jaguar oh my
and a leopard and jaguars and leopards are not the same thing even though half a chap
probably thinks they are and can't tell them I would have gotten three of those I
wouldn't have got the jaguar because those are I got lion tiger and leopard in my
head jaguar I've tried to tune that out ever since that recent ad campaign
It's like I try to block that out of my mind, so I probably don't got that one.
They are gay. They are known to be gay.
Yeah.
But what separates great cats from big cats, big cats would be something like a cougar,
mountain lion, a lynx.
Those are other types of big cats, a cheetah.
How does one elevate from big to great?
The ability to roar.
Really?
Yep.
So it's not just about size.
It's about the ability to roar.
Oh.
And mountain lions cannot roar.
Nor can cheetahs, nor can lynx.
What about panthers?
Panthers.
Glad you brought that up, John.
That's what ghost brought it up actually in the chat.
Panther is one of the strangest words associated with cats,
because all panther means, literally, is black cat.
So there is no such thing as a panther.
In fact, a Florida panther is not a panther.
It is a cougar.
So it's a mountain lion.
Those are all the same animal.
See, when I thought Florida cougar, I thought something different.
I didn't even think cat at all.
That's true. That's a whole subspecies in and of itself. But a panther, as most people think of it, like Bagheera from the Jungle Book, he is a black leopard. That is what Bagheera is. He is not a panther. And in fact, there can be black tigers and black lions. They're just exceedingly rare. And those would also be called Panthers. Should we be calling them African American Panthers in this day and age?
It was just called people. Well, the black people already did that to themselves, right?
the Black Panthers. They named themselves
the most racist thing you
could to own the white
people. Oh, to own the white
tigers, probably.
Was there like tigers?
Isn't there a thing about a white tiger? That's like a Chinese
Kung Fu gang.
Is it? Because if it's not, we should start
that. And that can be like
our white power gang. And we can make
J.B. and Cam the face of it.
Anything racist, I'm in.
Yeah, I know, I know. I know. I know you are.
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Let's, is there anything else like, about a leopards and?
No, I'm sure you.
I have none.
I've had my fill of animal trivia for the evening.
But is there anything else like interesting around that I ran?
more that you want to get into. I find it interesting some of the narratives that are floating around.
I already kind of mentioned the why we got into it. There's some people saying we're doing it on
Israel's behalf. Trump is adamantly saying, no, if anything, they're doing it on our behalf. And I think
that's an interesting narrative. There's some interesting stuff floating around about the munitions,
which I think is kind of funny. Both sides are essentially accusing the other side of being like
almost out of ammo, which is, which is weird. And if that happened,
What happens at that point?
Like, what happens if we get a story where everybody's out of munitions, then what happens?
Yeah, maybe.
Well, narrative disarmament, nuclear mutual disarmament has been one of the themes I've talked about.
I know Chris has talked about that.
One of the big macro themes that I think is going on, you know, with a lot of these conflict, conflicts.
I wrote a, I wrote the, speaking of racism and double entendres, I wrote an article called the N-word in the,
summer after Trump infamously said that a bunch of times and with his shit-eating grin
He's like you know what I call the N-word right? Who was that too? Was that to Tucker or Hannity or something? I forget who it was he kept saying he's like I call it the N-word do you know what the N-word is and then he says nuclear nuclear
So I said in that article I think that was June or July
In the first Iran crisis fake crisis I said we were going from denuclearization to
re-nuclearization and that denuclearization was renuclearization because I bet what's going to happen
on the back of however long this narrative plays out in Iran is that Iran is going to have a civilian
nuclear energy program which they're already seating you were posting stuff about this earlier
Chris was posting stuff about this the Russians and the Chinese are invested in the Iranian
civilian nuclear energy program Donald Trump in his quote unquote back channels with the
Iranians that he is denying exist to the Israelis is talking about a civilian energy program.
So that's what a lot of what's going on here where I think that we're basically witnessing
narrative disarmament. To bring up another Q refrain, I haven't seen, there might be some out there,
but I haven't seen any people decoding one of the most infamous drops in the context of what's
going on here that I thought of right away, which is the hunt for Red October com in the
Q drops. The captain turned into the path of the torpedo before it could arm itself.
I'm actually working on another article right now called Path of the Torpedo, and I think that's
exactly what's going on here. That's my read on the situation. I think that Trump gave you a massive
hint of that yesterday, I believe, when he said, when asked if Israel forced his hand, he said,
I might have forced theirs.
I believe that Donald Trump is giving us the appearance of regime change in Iran and all the bells
and whistles with it to head off the actual regime change plan and forever war that was going
to happen.
And if people think that's silly, it is exactly what we said we thought was going on in
Venezuela.
And Trump is telling you to the New York Times.
I think on Sunday while I was on the narrative and talking about this, he told the New York
Times, we're using the Venezuela model. And the New York Times kept trying to ask him what that
meant because it didn't seem to make sense on the surface. And he said, it will be the exact same
thing as the Venezuela model. And oh, in case that wasn't enough of a hint for everybody of what's
going on here, Trump in between piloting us through World War III right now, put out some truth
posts over the last couple days, all about how fantastic his relationship with Delsey Rodriguez
of Venezuela is and all the deals that are coming together and they're already running at full
speed, right? Could you have imagined, well, we could have imagined because we said it when it was
going on. But if you were a normie, could you have imagined like January 5th that on March 3rd or
fourth relations with venezuela would not only be stable but mutually enriching both countries
yeah nobody in the world would have believed that and nobody right now believes that's going to
happen with iran and that's exactly what's going to happen with iran i just don't know what the
timeline's going to be on that you see this this came out um before we went live trump officials
broker massive U.S. Venezuela gold deal.
Yeah.
So that's pretty cool.
Yeah, one of the interesting things about this conflict and us, the timing of the
Venezuela thing first is like Venezuela and Iran are, we're allies, energy allies for China.
And they've been totally cut off by this, I would say.
And it's very much damaging them.
there was a story that came out
this was just a couple hours
ago too
China that might be fake
very well could be
China sets lowest economic growth
targets since 1991 from the BBC
again just a story
but the line here I thought was
global trade tensions and an energy crunch
due to the Iran war
where we talk about Trump is like
rebalancing the trade but yeah I think in terms of
templates you're spot on
I do anticipate this to be something very
similar to the Venezuela thing
timeline is what's iffy.
And, you know,
just has a button here to what you just showed.
I'm not saying this is true.
I'm just saying there are contradictory narratives right now
about China being cut off.
Because Chinese tankers seem to just be gliding right through.
Well, I wouldn't say, I didn't say cut off.
I just said, that's what the media is saying.
Oh.
They're saying that China's being cut off, basically.
Yeah.
Well, that's another interesting aspect is the whole
insurance for everybody with boats.
Everybody Maritime gets insurance in the United States.
So just keep the energy trade and flow in.
Not only will we escort you through, but we will insure you fully to make sure you
don't lose anything.
That's pretty interesting.
Trump doesn't want this to affect the energy markets at all.
I wonder if that's because he anticipates it to not last very long, you know, so just
like, hey, guys, don't, don't worry.
We'll guide you through.
If that's a long-term commitment, I'm definitely not a full.
fan of that. You know, like, we're going to insure everybody on a global stage for how long.
Like, we obviously have no idea how long it's going to play out. It's a very dynamic and fluid
situation. Well, insurance is only risky if you don't know what's going to happen. Yeah.
That's the whole point of insurance. So insurance only costs, we would only pay for something
if bad things happen, right? So if Trump knows that nothing is actually going to happen to these
tankers, then insuring them costs nothing because,
we're never going to pay anything out.
Has there been any damage to tankers yet?
There are reports of damage to tankers.
There was one I was reading about earlier tonight.
This was not in the straight of Hormuz,
but this was a report about a tanker off of Kuwait.
Now, are these, I don't know if these things are true or false or what,
but this is Russia claims that this was a Ukrainian drone
that hit this tanker off of Kuwait.
But either way, the media, the global media and the financial media is talking about how, you know, the whole region right now seems unsafe.
So to your point about Trump's, like, I see the insurance thing as a narrative deployment largely.
He's telling the people operating tankers, like, hey, keep doing you, like you just said.
But the funny thing about markets is markets are narrative, right?
So everybody in the energy industry and betting on the price of crude oil.
oil and everything understands that there's a lagging effect on the actuals.
And yet when Trump put that post out, all the oil prices went down and stocks rebounded.
And it's like, well, but hold on, but there's a very serious bad war going on in Iran.
And you guys all tanked all of this stuff last week because of that very bad serious war.
And now Trump said something about the future on Twitter and you've reversed all
pricing action. That's how they do with everything, though. That's what it is. They've constantly
done that based on a Trump tweet. I did a show, gosh, there's a while ago, but I was like,
you just wait, Trump's going to lower the price. Like, he's going to put a post out there.
Prices are going to come down on a certain thing. I don't remember what the fuck it was.
Then he's going to do another post like shortly thereafter. And it's Trump. He's like, he told you
when to get into the stock market, didn't he? He's like, now's like, now's the time to get into it,
get into it, guys, buy the dip. And sure enough, then a couple of,
weeks later news comes out and everything pops back up again it's so funny how he can
manipulate the market and the mindsets of everybody with just a simple truth post yeah i had i had written
an article months ago uh on scott besen that was randomly popular and i uh in that i had posted
something from rabbo bank and rabo bank is like considered you know real o g alt media investor guys so but
otherwise normies, but they're very well respected in kind of like the Maverick investing space.
And a few months ago, I think this was during the Trump G back and forth, the trade war between
Trump and G that like fifth one we've had. And Rabobank put out a letter to their to their
donors and their constituents basically saying, you know, it's starting to seem like nothing is real.
and that both Trump and G know that nothing actually needs to be implemented against each other
and that they can just move their markets with their headlines.
And like these are the market guys that are now starting to pick up on not only did they've known forever to your point that narratives move markets.
But they've thought of that differently than we do.
Market guys think news moves markets.
The news of real things happen.
happening move markets. They are starting to understand that Trump just saying some stuff moves
markets. And him saying some stuff doesn't have to have any bearing on reality at all.
And yet it's completely changing markets. And I think that's actually a net positive
because people are realizing that the stock market is entirely a belief engine.
I got to show you this too. Did you guys see this is off topic with the financial stuff,
But the White House put out a video where it starts with like a call of duty clip.
And then it turns into a compilation of all this shit we're doing and bombing and taken out.
Have you seen this clip?
No.
Oh, it's amazing.
I mean, it's basically you look at this.
You're like, this is bad gaming.
This is John and Zach playing video games on Sundays.
But no, it's not.
It's just the White House Twitter page.
It's taking control.
Sorry, I was rolled out.
I can get it turned down for me.
But whatever, you guys got it.
How are we to read that?
I don't know.
We need a Chris Paul rhetorical question segment.
Yeah.
What does it mean when, I say that lovingly, by the way, I love when he does that, but what does it mean when the White House leads into a real war montage that many of us believe is a fake war with fake war footage that they know everyone in the war.
the country knows is fake war footage and then overlays that over out of context real war footage
does it mean that they're trivializing war or does it mean that the war is more like a video
game and that that's what's actually going on here see here's the thing though like when it comes to
you know i'm sure trump will end up reposting this but like i don't think and then there's
going to be people who disagree with me. You're probably going to disagree with me.
Like the White House
comms team, whoever
runs the White House account. Maybe Stan Skivino, maybe, you know, other people.
There's rapid response. There's
all these different like government accounts
that are run by people. Like they have
somebody who manages their social media and
compiles these videos, puts them out or finds them online,
puts them out. I don't read into every
single one is like, okay, well, this is maybe
a com from them trying to tell us how to
like interpret this if we're paying attention.
You know, sometimes you can
definitely interpret things that way.
I don't know, I just think it's freaking hilarious
that they're doing it because they know the effect
they're gonna have is people are going to interpret it that way,
whether that is what's actually happening or not.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, I would agree with that, and I think that's all you need, right?
Like, you know what they know the effect of this video
is going to be.
And it, I don't know, I mean, you know,
it's kind of like, if they're unironically posting stuff like this,
about the very real beginning of what normies think is happening, which is the start of a new forever war,
then we are actually in a very dark timeline, a darker one than I would say even the Bush era, right?
If you're a Normie, and that's why Normies are spinning out.
That's part of why they're spinning out.
Because it's not enough that the Bush regime got us into a forever war on the back of a very real false flag and national tragedy.
and then, but all the lead up to the invasion in Iraq and Afghanistan was very solemn and serious, right?
Like, they weren't trivializing it.
I'm not saying it was obviously a huge sci-op and horrible.
But I'm saying that the government and the military treated it like this extremely serious thing that we all have to get on board with.
The current rerun is the White House putting out call-a-duty videos.
while getting us into a foreign war.
So, you know, I choose to look at that and say,
it's not actually that serious.
But, yeah, you could look at it and say,
they are just not taking something very serious, seriously.
Yeah.
I mean, guys, Hakesh said squirder the other day.
Like, how seriously can they be taking it?
But I don't know.
And the story we're getting too out of there that is, at a fun one,
is how Iran has responded by, like,
they're going down just, like, spraying.
you know they're just they're shooting everybody in the region doesn't even matter i think that's an
interesting narrative um some of their allies that they thought might come to bat for them so far we're
told hasn't that's the saturday before the war kicked off me and chris did a show and we're talking
about what we expect to see if we do you know go to and so even though i came out and said yeah
didn't think it was going to happen but i bet we're going to get the story of like hey a couple bombs
here and there you know minimal casualties are going to bomb us back allegedly minimal casualties if
obviously there has been casualties we've been told but Chris made the point that well
Trump is meeting with Xi soon trying is kind of there in the region Russia is kind of
there in the region I guess Trump really going to go and you know do something like that
with those guys right there with meetings on the horizon probably not and it turns
out Iran may not have been entangled with those two countries quite like they
probably thought they were you know a lot of how it's playing out
so far to me has been kind of a sovereign alliance, you know, proof if you want to say.
Yeah, I wrote about a, for the, for the brief tomorrow on something I'm working on, I wrote about
the Russia angle today with this because I noticed, not only am I trying to think of like,
how does sovereign alliance fit into this, but there was a series of propaganda pieces that all
hit yesterday on the third, specifically not just talking about how Russia and Putin are being
affected by this, but basically antagonizing the Russians about what Trump is doing.
I can pull a couple of them up, but I thought that was notable because it demonstrates
that they certainly want that to be the takeaway, right?
the media wants it to be the takeaway that these strikes that Trump is doing are very
maddening to Putin and G. I'll just show the headlines. We have to go through the articles.
There we go. So this was from foreign policy. Trump puts Putin in an Iran dilemma. Roiders,
Trump's Iran attack rattles Russian hardliners who call for Putin to double down on the war in Ukraine.
and then Politico, why Kamani's killing hit Putin where it hurts.
So they're obviously trying to say like Putin's losing support, his people really want
him to break from this tentative alliance with Trump.
And that's what I thought was signal there, is that all these media globalists rags
buried in that propaganda are acknowledging Trump and Putin had a cozy relationship that
seemed to be getting cozier and, hey, this might ruin it, which usually, you know,
can just take a reverse indicator there. I don't think that's going to happen. There's also some
indication. There's many ways this could go. I could see it escalating. And I think again, it would be
narrative. I've long believed I've gone back and forth on it. But in 2022, my original theory was that
the narrative between Trump, Putin, and G would escalate to a degree that nobody thought it would
escalate to. But I think that that's narrative. This could be part of that. It's also possible that Putin comes in
and acts as a mediator with this whole thing, which is, by the way, what he's already supposedly
doing in the Gulf states.
So one of the major reasons, according to the central narrative, that the Gulf states have
not responded is because of Vladimir Putin's calls to them.
So that's kind of interesting because that's something Donald Trump has done with some of
these countries.
They're like, hey, hey, hey, chill out.
We got your back.
And then you've got Putin calling from the other side of the war.
supposedly saying, hey Saudis,
hey, UAE,
Qatar, just chill out.
Let's not get crazy here.
Yeah, there's an interesting story I've got to show you.
Brian Official in our chat sent this through,
and we've got to read through some of this.
That's do with AI and Anthropic and Cloud.
Because, have you been following the cloud thing
and how it's like getting banned?
Okay, we've got to read through this.
Anthropics AI Tool Cloud, Central to,
U.S. campaign in Iran amid a bitter feud. Advanced AI technologies identifying targets in Iran and quickly
prioritizing them, supporting the massive military operations carried out by U.S. and Israeli forces.
In order to strike a blistering 1,000 targets in the first 24 hours of its attack in Iran,
the U.S. military leveraged the most advanced artificial intelligence that's ever used in warfare,
a tool that could be difficult for the Pentagon to give up, even as it sever's ties with the company
that created it. The military's maven smart system, which is built by data mining company,
volunteer is generating insights from an astonishing amount of classified data from satellite surveillance and other intelligence,
helping provide real-time targeting and target prioritization to military operations in Iran,
according to three people familiar with the system.
Embedded into the system is Anthropics AI tool, Claude,
a technology that was banned by the Pentagon last week after heated negotiations over the terms of its use in war.
Over the last year, military planners have seen Claude paired with Maven,
mature into a tool that is in daily use across most parts of the,
military according to two of the people well a couple more things here as planning for a
potential strike in Iran was underway maven powered by cloud suggested hundreds of targets issued
precise location coordinates and prioritized those targets according to importance said to the
people the pairing of maven and Claude has created a tool that is speeding the pace of the
campaign reducing Iran's ability to counter strike and turning weeks long battle planning into
real-time operations the air tools to evaluate a strike after it is initiated the person's
said the cloud has also been used in counter countering terror plots in the raid and in the raid
that captured Venezuelan president Nicholas Maduro.
I think this is fascinating because I'm picturing a scenario where the military is just like
pressing a butt like, okay, go.
And then the AI like has all the targets.
It monitors it all in real time.
And those where all they're at, it tracks them continuously.
And then it just shoots the rockets and does all the things.
Like we're just sitting there not doing anything.
We're just like watching the AI do these bombings for us.
like literally a video game which yeah which doesn't that make you look at the call of duty
posts a little bit differently like well because it's a social media account so yeah but it's
video game footage of them calling in video game drones while every headline is about drone strikes
i get the irony i do yeah it's i'm just not going to get like i'm never going to be the guy that's
like okay the white house posted this it's a com for sure because i don't think yeah it doesn't have to
be because like i've dealt with the congress like congressman i'm trying to get one on and like
this person runs the social media account for them.
You know, the White House may be a little more sophisticated,
but it's just probably some 20-year-old intern who's like,
yeah, I'm going to post this, you know, I don't think.
They're clearly okay with it at the very least.
Oh, for sure.
With that stuff going out.
But yeah, I mean, another little wrinkle here in this,
I don't know if this makes sense,
but I thought the whole anthropic thing was interesting.
I was wrong in my initial reading of that,
speaking of being wrong.
I thought that that deal was falling apart,
and we were going to see a little old Elon,
slide in there. Hey, we'll see that narrative isn't over as far as I'm concerned,
but we had open AI slide in there, Sam Altman. By the way, he's faced enormous backlash
for doing that by his own people. There was a joint letter signed by 900 of his own employees
who were against what he's doing. The massive lawsuit between Elon Musk and Sam Altman
is going to go public in 2026 with Discovery.
So we're going to get to see how Sam Altman stole that company from Elon.
So there's an interesting backdrop here.
But regarding the war stuff, the surface level narrative that the Pentagon gave about why that
anthropic deal fell apart was essentially that anthropic was not going to allow the U.S. military
to do whatever it wanted with the technology, right?
That's like the normie, the liberals, like, we've got to rein the government in, right?
And so it sounds altruistic.
It sounds good until you look at a picture of the founder of Anthropic.
And then you're like, I don't know.
But if you look at it through the framing you just mentioned of like pressing a button and the AI doing its thing, what if we invert that?
What if we say the implication that Anthropic did not want the military to have control,
over its models implies that Anthropic had control over its models and not the military as deployed in war.
Now, if Anthropic was not a good company, would it be a good thing if the U.S. military was not in control of what that AI did when it came to deploying it in war?
like there are a couple ways to look at that so all the narratives are anthropics trying to protect us from the evil bad u.s. military and the u.s. military is saying yeah we actually need control over what the war fighting AI modules are doing you fucking idiots so no we're not going to build like back doors into militarized AI for
private contractors.
Yeah.
That's kind of how I read that whole thing.
Now, do I like that Sam Altman's evolved?
No, not at all.
But, well, my take on it is like, they got it just long enough to definitely
recreate the code and just have their own militarized version of the AI that it doesn't matter.
They don't need them anymore.
Yeah, that's fair.
Because if you don't think the NSA can, like, replicate whatever cloud was, they definitely
can and already did.
And if anything, like, I wouldn't be surprised if there's this a lot.
lawsuit eventually from Claude against
the government for that
specifically. Then you're going to get like
the, what is it, the
secrets, what's
the thing that they use in government secrets
in lawsuits? You remember?
What's I called? Is it just
government secrets? I don't remember. But when they can
claim like government secrets and they can't
yeah. What's that freaking
called? Somebody in the chat will know. It's like when you
when you're playing a manhunt and you
you have the home
base.
Hold on. Let me find this.
I know this is a thing.
The state secrets privilege.
That's what it is.
You know that that'll get brought up, which 100% will confirm that it definitely replicated the AI stuff.
But that's interesting reading of it.
Obviously, you don't want to give over control of the war fighting 100% AI,
especially if that is then being controlled by private contractors.
I don't know, but I just thought it was interesting.
I didn't see any of the articles I read being like.
looking at that pathway from the opposite side.
Yeah.
Well, it's just weird to the timing of it.
It's like, okay, we're going to start this war.
We get a two, war starts on Saturday.
I think it was Saturday or Sunday.
Trump comes out and announces that like, yeah, we're done with this AI.
We're going to completely phase it out.
You have six months to do it.
This is ridiculous.
Completely bans it.
And then the next day or two days later, we get another story that's like,
yeah, the military is using cloud and AI.
the thing that they just banned and have six months to phase out in like all of their warfighting they're the ones who picked all the targets prioritize them shot the missiles all these things this is weird you know yeah and you can't get away from Tolkien with these things because all our future military companies seem to be named after Lord of the Rings things we've got Palantier and Doreal there some other ones out there rise of tire says think about it um if we
No, it's not privileged.
I was talking about the state secrets thing.
It's real.
Think about it, if we really killed the Ayatollah,
and this wasn't part of some deal,
why would Iran have come out and said we killed him?
They would never give us that satisfaction.
So actually, and I kind of agree with them.
So my first, when I put out that post on Saturday,
of like, I think this is the Venezuela template,
and here's how it might look from here.
My first marker was look for,
for the Iranians to be the first major party or the first major player on the board to confirm
everything Trump is saying.
And they were.
And that's why.
And it's like, who's doubting Trump's narratives?
The Israelis, the globalist media, John Bolton and neocons, by Sunday, they had already started being like, I don't know.
Trump said like we got this guy and that guy, but I don't know if we did.
Whereas the Iranians came out and they were like, ah, they got us.
They bamboozled us again.
He did it.
And they did this back during Midnight Hammer when Trump had this incredible, most successful thing in a jig ever.
And Israel was like, I don't know.
We're still going to send our bombers over there just to make sure you got them.
And Trump was like, you better turn the fuck around right now because you're insulting me that you think I didn't get them and that you want to get them again.
And the Iranians came out and said, he totally got us, guys.
you don't have to bomb us again.
So same thing is happening here.
They're like, ah, that Ayatollah, he got him.
And he got all those other guys too.
I mean, his son might be the next Ayatollah,
but that's besides the point, I guess.
Well, so far, there's been a couple Ayatollahs,
and everyone so far has been bombed,
like within an hour of it happening.
Trump said he took a bunch out by accident, too.
Yeah, Ghost, like, his thought process
on him not being convinced that
diTiola's been alive the last, like, couple of years.
I think that's very interesting.
The truth is we don't know.
We don't know what we don't know.
It's easy to like, it's probably easiest to like just jump to the conclusion that like the whole thing is fake and set up.
And that's probably where I even lean to is like this is more of a pre-plan thing.
And they're trying to give like Iran and out, but there are bad elements in there that they need to take out in order to get us to that end game.
How long that will take?
I don't know.
But we'll see.
You know, the whole giving the Iranian.
people the opportunity to actually, you know, choose who their next government is or whatever
that even means. Like Trump has said, hey, I ran, now is your opportunity. Rise up. Take the
government that, you know, create the government that you want or whatever, but also while you're
rising up, stay indoors. Don't move. Don't come outside for a while. Yeah, yeah. But then rise.
And the new government shouldn't be a Kamani. Yeah. It's a little, little hypocritical.
Yeah. Are they really choosing who they get to have next if we're just telling them it's going to be
a committee and is that really happening if this has all been pre-planned?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
I have a different read on that as well.
Well, not necessarily than you, but then a lot of people.
I think that Trump is taunting and ridiculing the other color revolution.
So just like with Venezuela, he keeps, again, the Venezuela model comes over and over by Donald Trump are not an accident.
So what was my read in Venezuela?
That Donald Trump intercepted a real color revolution with a fake one.
The real color revolution was Hakuna Matata, as Chris would say, Maria Karina Machado.
They were building her up in the central narrative.
They had been funding this through NGOs.
And it was supposed to end with the removal of Nicholas Maduro and the installation of Machado into Venezuela,
Wefhean, Sorosian globalist.
Instead, Trump comes in, swaps out Machado for, I mean, swaps out Maduro for the Maduro administration, keeps the Maduro regime in place and completely disarms the color revolution that's going on down there.
And I said, watch for Machado to call for another regime change.
And then Ghost found the video, like within days of her going on Fox News and saying, I'm not sure Delci Rodriguez is enough of a regime change.
I think we should consider swapping her out too.
And she got no mandate for it.
She got no energy behind it.
So if the same template is playing out in Iran, then what I think was going to happen is a real violent regime change invasion by Israel and or others intel assets in the region and a real on the ground color revolution that had already been building in Iran that ironically the Ayatollah and everybody in the Iranian government has been saying for the last six months.
months that there's a color revolution here that's being funded by U.S. Intel and globalist assets.
And I think Trump is taunting them. And he's saying like, hey, you know, if the people really want
a regime change, you should go for it. You should storm the government right now and see what
happens while there is a state of war going on. And we've got all these U.S. military assets and
drones in the region. You should definitely rise up against the regime right now. So to me, it would be
like him sending a national guard to all major U.S. cities and then putting out a truth post saying,
I think this would be a good time for Antifa to hit the streets and really make your voices be heard.
That's my read on it. And we're never going to know. But I just, I think it was similar to Venezuela,
where he's like, I know what you were going to do.
So are all you color revolutionaries going to stay indoors now?
This is your chance, isn't it?
Yeah.
But okay, double reading, though.
What if he did mean that?
Like, because I try to equate some of the stuff like that he's saying now to like some of the stuff he said about us.
Like, hey, I'm giving the government back to we the people.
And yet we refuse to try to even pretend to do that here.
Like we just sit back and and watch the Trump as he does things.
And we complain from our, you know, armchair.
quarterback situations we got going on but like the things he's telling them to do are things that
were not even willing to do here but he's kind of used some similar rhetoric in the past like i think he
i think there was a color revolution run against him that he thwarted to a degree even though biden got in
there the whole election thing devolution whatnot but also he did a counter color revolution
here domestically i don't think it's all the way done yet though it's clearly not we have so
many deep state elements left but that's a very interesting reading to like like if he's if he's
saying that to the bad guys to like go for it finish finish your well you know it's just to me
it's dueling like dueling color revolutions do or rather dueling regime changes uh that's what i think
was going on in venezuela and again i'm just taking trump saying it's the venezuela model
now he has never confirmed that there were dueling regime changes there but that's just
like out there uh clearly and and the reason
again, I go back to Machado, the reason I'm really confident that there was dueling regime change
operations in Venezuela is because Machado said it the week later. Like, according to the central
narrative, the color revolutionaries in Venezuela got everything they wanted, except they weren't happy
with it. And I think you're going to see the same narrative in Iran, where once the dust
settles, we're going to have regime change, right? And the people are going to be free. But there's
going to be these elements. It might be this Pahlavi guy who the glit, who the glitians,
globalist media seems to be the only Iranian, the globalist media is like, he might not be that bad.
If it ends up being him, is he the Machado of Iran? Was he supposed to be the guy that came in when the people rose up?
He was, I think Donald Trump used his killing words the other day with him and said he's a nice guy, but he's not sure if he's going to be the leader.
He said Machado was very nice, but she's not going to be the leader of Venezuela. So to me, like he does drop these templates.
and says like not really nice guy has a lot of revolutionaries behind him don't think he's going to make the cut
yeah um at one point though do or at what point do we stop being okay with like trump being the one to
dictate this for other countries though you know what i mean that's an assumption that i'm not making
well i mean kind of like you don't think the iranians have anything to do with this i don't know
I mean, that'd be speculation.
If we have, yeah, I don't agree with that.
To me, this is all, again, you said earlier in the show.
My foundation that I look at everything geopolitically with, admittedly, is that the sovereign alliance exists.
For sure.
And to me, the existence of the sovereign alliance, which would include elements in Iran, implies that they are in.
control of what's going on there.
And then in fact, he's helping out,
whoever the new regime ends up being.
And you don't even have to be a conspiracy theorist to believe that.
Because if we're doing a regime change,
then ostensibly we're helping out the new regime, right?
Yeah.
So do you think, do you think so like to the Venezuela template?
I know we've talked with us some quite a bit actually.
But do you think Delci is like who the people actually wanted down there?
Not necessarily, but that's, you know,
That's an interesting conversation because I know people in this audience don't like when I say stuff like this, but are you confident seeing the lay of the land right now that the American people, like the vast majority of the American people want the right person as president?
Like I want Donald Trump as president.
So there's even if we use like the most, I was going to say liberal, but I meant that in a literal term.
even if we use the most bullish MAGA polling that we can find.
There are 80 million adult Americans that hate Donald Trump.
Sure.
So if they hate him because they've been subjected to Psiops,
do we want to protect the decision-making abilities of those people?
Like, this is where I'm having Jonathan Drake on the narrative.
Are you saying that, like, they shouldn't be allowed to have a say in who?
What I'm saying is the Venezuelan people, like the American people, are the most propagandized people against the Maduro regime.
Just like the American people are the most propagandized people against the Trump administration.
Sure.
So do we think the average American is well educated?
when it comes to what's good for the future of their country.
Like, this is where you do get into some of the stuff Alpha said on Wednesday night.
I saw that like half of that show in hindsight.
But I don't agree with everything he said on that show.
But there are elements of what he's talking about with a military intelligence plan that I understand.
If it's like, okay, you know, we're arguing about American sovereignty.
But if the people are not just retarded, but literally have been programmed,
with beliefs that will fuck up their future
if they are allowed to implement them,
then where do you go with that?
Well, I think the obvious, you know, culprit thing.
The obvious problem here is the siops.
If we would get the truth, then it's almost like the siops are like a crutch.
It's like, well, we have to siop these people because you can't tell them the truth.
And because we're not telling them the truth, we can't allow them to make decisions for themselves.
because they're not getting the information,
that shouldn't be how it is.
It should just be like,
hey, let's stop the siops and start just telling everybody the truth
and then actually give them their sovereignty
because I don't think the fact that people have been lied to
is a good enough reason to also withhold their sovereignty.
It's a fake sovereignty.
You're not giving them anything real.
You're giving them pretend sovereignty
because you can't tell them the truth for their own benefit.
You're giving them sovereignty for their own benefit
by not allowing them to actually choose.
it because they're being lied to for their own benefit too.
I totally agree with that.
That's the irony here.
That's why I think that this is like the most difficult thought experiment that kind of defines the info war.
If you're right about devolution, I think that I said this a few weeks ago, what was that?
Right?
Like, was that the truth?
Oh, no.
Exactly.
So it's kind of like we can understand.
I do agree that at some point the sciops have happened.
you know, Chris said the point is not getting hoodwined at all.
I agree with that.
I'm just making an argument that that's like, if you're in that room, if you're one of those
guys, whoever these magical patriots are, they do exist because clearly they're running some
kind of big fucking plan that none of us were involved in.
Devolution involves a plan made by these people who we had nothing to do with that plan.
Like we had no, nothing to do with it, right?
So people are making these decisions.
And I'm not confident that if you were sitting in that room, you, me, Chris, people in our audience,
I'm not confident that we would actually make a different decision.
Because I imagine them presenting you like, listen, we've heard everything you've said.
We like that you're advancing first principles and we want you to continue to do that.
And you're right.
And this goes back to the Lucius Fox Dark Night analogy, where Batman turns to Lucius and he's like,
you're not going to stop me.
why isn't Lucius going to stop him?
And actually, I'll add one more thing to that scene.
Batman gives Lucius the detonator for the equipment.
So he puts it in Lucius's hands and says, if you disagree with what I'm doing, you can stop me.
And he doesn't, but he doesn't want the blood to be on his hands.
And I do understand that argument from some of these military intel guys who probably hate, some of them probably hate us.
because they're sitting there being like, that's cute.
But we actually know what happens if we do the thing that you want us to do right now.
We know with certainty what happens if we do that.
And it is catastrophic.
How can they know that with certainty, though?
You just said earlier in this show that they have access to more analytics.
But they can't predict the future.
What is the point of analytics?
I don't know.
It's behavior pattern behavior.
behavior recognition, stuff like that.
If they know with a high degree of confidence,
what is going to have...
I mean, you said this yourself about devolution
that you think that Trump implemented this to avoid a civil war.
So they didn't know a civil war is going to happen, right?
They believe strongly based on metrics that we don't have access to.
So that's why I think...
And other reasons, but yeah.
Ultimately, I'm not even trying to disagree with you.
I believe that we should do this
and that we should move in this direction and not be okay with that.
I'm just saying,
If you're dealing with Venezuela, I think it's largely similar to Americans where it's like, okay, what's Maduro going to go on a news conference and be like, hey, guys, it turns out it was the CIA all along. He did that for eight years. He was openly saying, the CIA is subverting me. I am not behind the cartels. The cartels are trying to oust me and the globalists are trying to install Machado. And yet if he gave the Venezuelan people a real election,
they were going to elect her.
So at that point, like, what the fuck?
Like, you know, Donald Trump's doing press conferences for 10 years telling the American people,
there is a deep state, they are making everything up, they're a criminal cabal,
and they're subverting my entire presidency, and half of the country thinks he's lying
when he's telling them the truth.
Yeah, but, I mean, more to my point of where I was going with this is like, you know,
the idea that we're just, you know, we're doing these regime changes and there's some sovereign
alliance regime changes and, you know, we can see the game theory and why we think he's doing
it and how he's subverting and rug pulling some of the deep state stuff, which is all great
stuff. But also, like, what is our role in this? Like, and at what point, and I think that the
point in the conversation there, where it's like, well, do you really trust 80 million Americans
right now because they hate Trump and, you know, maybe they wouldn't be making it informed
decision. And when it comes down to our role in this and like why I think what we have here with
Badlands is great. We we don't agree. We have the friction. We advocate for people getting involved
in their local Badlanders group. Badlands Media.tv slash groups. You can get together with people in your
area and figure shit out at the local level. At least have some people to hang out with, have some good
times. And sometimes Badlanders will come hang out. But like that's where I think we fit in.
like if we're not trying to like end the bullshit propaganda and and stop justifying the
propaganda and at least like even if there's 80 million people who disagree with us let's let's at
least give them the opportunity to make informed decisions and if at the end of the day they still
agree with us then that that's like kind of where the dice end up you know like that's that's not
there's nothing else we can do but you know a lot of the times I think and I'm not saying you
were doing this because I think we're both kind of playing devil's advocate a little bit to
positions we don't necessarily hold.
But a lot of times this is a behavior that we see is people will justify so many things
like even would go against what they call their first principles in order to explain
away why shitty things are happening and why we're like just cheerleading on these shitty things
all over the place.
And this is one of those things like this is the freaking propaganda.
There's really no excuse for it at this point.
I'm sure they have excuses for it.
But there's no reason that we should be allowing it to continue to.
happen by not at least complaining about it constantly like I am so sick of being lied to constantly yeah
everybody's doing it and I totally agree with every word of what you just said and that's why I think you know
I guess the one caveat I put onto what I said is that I'm saying I think this is their justification for it
and I'm not confident that if we had the same information they had that we would not do the same thing
in their position but to your point we are not in their position which means
means we can and should only do what we can do in our position. And I agree with you that in our
position, the thing to do is not to cheer lead for these things. The thing to do is to have
conversations like this where we lay out what we think the lies are, even if the lies are coming from people that we like
and understand why they're lying that way, right? I think your criticism, which I agree with,
is that a lot of the truth community, in my opinion,
doesn't do that.
They would say a lot of what I just said,
but they would end that with, which
is why you should cheer this on.
And you shouldn't talk about that it's a sciop,
and you shouldn't talk about that it's a lie.
I don't agree with that.
I think we should talk about that it's a lie
and it's a sciop and people need to take their own sovereignty.
And ultimately, I do agree with you.
You know, talking about Badlanders groups.
We talk about Bitcoin a lot, all kinds of things.
The Second Amendment.
I mean, I totally,
agree with decentralization and I'm going to have Jonathan Drake on the narrative on Sunday night.
He was triggering Badlanders in the Gart chat on telegram today in a good way. They were healthy
back and forth. But you know, him and Chris are having these kind of conversations that's like,
hey, kind of like what I was saying on this show, at what point do we start revisiting?
This is maybe long, long term. At what point do we start revisiting that this whole democracy
idea. Like, it's a little silly to spend your time trying to figure everything out and having these
sovereign-minded conversations and how can we actualize and take power back. And then you go to a barbecue
and you're like, these fucking people are idiots. And I don't want them to have any say over any
aspect of my life. And yet, I'm trying to save a system that codifies their way. And I'm trying to save a system that codifies their
right to vote for people that have control over me.
Yeah.
Like maybe that's not what the end state should be.
You know, like it's even beyond the siops.
It's like at some point, I think we're a long ways from this, but we're starting the
conversations early.
At some point, we need to revisit like, I said this at Garts and I've gotten like,
you know, shouted down for it every time, not by other people at Badlands, but by some
people in the audience.
I've said, if the constitution was going to work.
it would have worked.
The idea to me
that we're just going to go back
to that stuff is very silly.
But yeah, you know, we're not ready for that.
I get that.
And these are some like
next step conversations
that we should be having.
But there's a lot,
there's so many.
There's a few steps in between.
A few steps.
And it's almost like,
it was overwhelming on November,
what was it,
fourth, when Trump was the winner
of the election.
Back in 2024, I was like, man, we got so much to do.
This is going to be so fun.
It's going to be great opportunity.
Things are just going to be like lighting switch.
And so we're talking about it.
Days and weeks go by.
And it's like, well, you know, some great things happening.
Yeah, but like there are some really major things that were told are being addressed.
But there's like literally nothing actually happening to, to address.
And then, you know, months go by and the stories about the things, you know, like, oh, we fix that.
And then a couple months later, it's like, well,
well, here's that same story again that I just never fixed at all.
And it's just like over and over again.
And now we're we're almost to those pesky little midterms that everybody's super concerned about.
And in terms of like progress on a lot of the narratives that we were hoping to get some sort of resolution on, even going back to like COVID.
Like have we, have we gotten any, you know, anything from COVID, 2020 election, like stuff like that.
it's it's uh it's overwhelming to think of how how far we still have to go to even be having
next level conversations like do we do we need this constitution even right government it's
like you know these were conversations the founding fathers were having uh they were like uh we don't
want a government so what do we do now and uh there was a lot of debate about you know what they
did now. But, you know, those are those are the funest conversations, I think. And I did want to just
show a few of the headlines that I had sent over to you because they're perfectly in line with
what you're saying. And I think this is a white pill. To your point about like, ah, the midterms,
the pesky midterms, the media seems to know that Donald Trump doesn't seem that concerned
about the midterms for a couple reasons. Five times Trump pushed Congress aside to take control.
Yeah.
published two days ago we've got Trump buries the 20th century this was from two days ago as
well uh this is all about constitutional authority yeah you send me that one i don't think i read that
one which one the very 20th century yeah yeah it's good there's some great reverse indicators in
these yeah and what's funny about these articles like that are about the the constitutional stuff
this is what Trump does and like with the war that he's doing right now and people are like well is it really constitutional for him to be doing this like did he have the constitutional authority to do this we have this conversation on Saturday it's no no just the previous presidents have abused the power and they got away with it and like that's one of the conversations by doing it this way is that yeah we should be having these kinds of conversations of whether or not he had the authority and just because Trump's the one who did it and just because other people did it before him it doesn't change the actual
constitutionality of it. And we should still be acknowledging the truthfulness of, no, he did not have the
constitutional authority to do these strikes. Unless he didn't do what he is saying he did.
Right. Wouldn't that be kind of a swerve? If it's like, you know, we've often said like,
is Trump lying or is he telling truth that even the truth community do not believe him about?
Okay, well, then what would the roundification?
What are you implying here?
I'm curious.
Well, the whole fake war idea, right?
Like fake war, performative war.
If Trump knows that he has not instituted unlawful military operations in a foreign country,
he has not violated the Constitution, nor would he need congressional approval.
Now, what kind of framework would you need for that?
I'm not arguing.
I promise I'm not even arguing that nothing is happening.
Let's say kinetic strikes and all this stuff is happening.
What if to my earlier Sovereign alliance point, he has permission to do these things.
To be fair, too, like my own caveat here is I don't care about him getting approval from an illegitimate Congress.
Like, that is meaningless to me.
Like, and plus the Constitution has been so warped and we've had this kind of conversation so many times that that's not even what I'm necessarily concerned about.
It's just if we're being honest with ourselves and what the law actually says.
but people seem like unwilling and uncomfortable if you're a Trump supporter to have those
kinds of conversations when you can be a Trump supporter and still have those difficult conversations.
That's okay.
That's that's probably what he wants.
It's probably why he's doing half the shit he does.
I totally agree with that.
That either way, those headlines, he loves.
Like, we should, whatever is or is not happening with Iran.
Yeah.
It's good that they're all arguing about constitutional.
I mean, I'm old enough to remember probably when we were all getting into this, that any time the media used the word constitution in an article, it was a pejorative.
It was like, we need to do away with this thing. It's holding us back, right?
And now we've moved the Overton window has moved to such a degree that the last vestiges of systemic power the system is trying to cling to is the Constitution.
that's kind of a white pill
if you look at it that way.
You're like, man, they think things are going this well for them, huh?
They're out here arguing on behalf of the Constitution
that I bet you we could go into the histories of these writers
on the Atlantic and Politico, et cetera,
and probably go back about eight years
and find a bunch of articles where they're like,
you know, the Constitution's really problematic.
And we need to do away with it.
And now they're like, the Constitution, he's ruining it.
It's like the aspects of the Q community and then the mainstream media have like just completely switched roles.
Yep.
But it goes back to what you said earlier.
This is the effect Trump has is like by doing the things he does, he gets people to completely flip their previous positions because he does the difficult things.
He takes all the slings and arrows for us and puts us in places where we're having the discussions we really should be having.
And Chris called him, I don't know when he did this a couple years ago, I think.
Divider in chief, which I think was a good way to put the same the same thing, right?
Like yeah, that's the point.
And Trump's kind of leading into the whole like the cult mentality, which I think is, is funny.
Like he's he's resharing and retweeting articles that are talking about the people who were like once Trump supporters.
And now like.
They're not MAGA anymore.
Did you see that Tucker was, uh, denited at the war?
Well, is he?
Yeah, he was, he was, he's not MAGA.
as of today.
Oh, wow.
He might be again as of this.
And so that's the exact behavior.
I think Trump is actually again, like if Trump is really meaning to give the government back to we the people,
do you think he would be like trying to be the face of a movement that excommunicated anybody who disagreed with anything it ever did?
Like, is that really like what the Make America Great Again movement is supposed to be about?
Because the founding fathers were all about debate.
and differing of opinions.
Just with the underlying principles, like, yeah, this is,
we're going to be one united country.
We're not going to agree on everything,
but we're going to do what's best for America.
But no, it's like, you don't agree with me.
You're out of here.
You're no longer part of this club.
You're not part of our Make America Great Again movement.
How dare you?
That's ridiculous.
He's leaning into that.
And I think it makes it look more ridiculous.
But people are cheerleading that too.
Yeah, let's do it even harder.
You know, if you were going to, oh, one of those articles, I don't even know freaking which one it was now, but I had posted the quote in our Badlands chat earlier.
Oh, here it is.
I picked it was the one I sent you.
I thought this line was incredible out of a propagandist.
So this was in the Trump Berries the, Trump Berries the 20th century.
This was out of Politico.
Look at this line.
Cross both as terms as president and in so many different areas of policy.
in governance and culture, his signal achievements have been acts of demolition.
Word for word, I agree with that entirely.
Now, they're framing that as a bad thing, but to the point you just made, it's kind of
interesting to think, is Trump trying to turn MAGA into a cult, or is he pointing out
that it has become one?
and he's like you've you said this in your post you know a couple days ago if anybody was thinking
about getting on the train they're definitely not after the events of this week and the narratives
of this week and when they see trump acting like that they're like well i'm just going to keep
evaluating things the way i do and i'm not going to join like a new group uh so i don't know if you were
going to do a controlled demolition of the idea of like maga being
a party because that's not what we want to become. I'm only speaking for myself. I didn't get in
this. I said this in much more direct language in an article I wrote, the cult of Morpheus a couple
weeks ago. But yeah, I didn't drag myself across a shattered liberal mindscape to re-forge
the Republican Party. Like that wasn't the idea here. No, it's really funny. I need to point
this out. I remember, I don't remember exactly
when it was,
but there's a show, and Ghosts you're in the chat,
maybe you'll remember. I think you,
me, ghost, some other
people were on a show
when we were talking about Tucker Carlson.
And everybody was like, kind of excited
about the things Tucker was doing and saying.
And I was like, well,
I mean, he's
saying the things we like right now,
but that doesn't change my thoughts on the guy.
Like, he's probably CIA.
I don't even remember the arguments, but
was like being kind of crucified a little bit as being the the voice of reason in my opinion obviously
everybody had a different take on it right if you fast forward to now and we had that same conversation
everybody would be cheerleading the side that's like we can't trust Tucker like fuck to that guy like
he's the worst he's kicked out of the movement now like what what are you guys doing liking
tucker Carlson but now i find myself like i'm not defending who Tucker is or anything he says
even though i still like some of his contact whatever but the principle of him being excommunicated
it is retarded.
It absolutely retarded.
And it's like, it's funny how I am, I feel like I'm the bad guy in both situations somehow.
But again, it's me like just taking the, what I think is my principal view on it versus
everybody else is just going with whatever, wherever Trump is dictating the narrative of it.
You know what I mean?
Well, and this is the, this is the contradiction that happens.
And we've been pointing out a lot tonight.
It's not about whether or not you're right about Tucker Carlson.
it's that your position has remained consistent.
And what other people don't understand is that their positions are not remaining consistent,
which is also okay if you then acknowledge that your position has not remained consistent.
But they don't.
They're like, I'm consistently MAGA the whole time.
It's like, well, you said Tucker was one of you a month ago and now he's not.
is he again next week
like when Trump endorses him again because he will
and he'll do another you know
sit down with him and I want to go back and find like
I'm pretty sure because every now and then I
especially when things get real heated not between us
and battle but like with the chat I'll screenshot
the chat and just like I'm going to remember
this so that I can later
show you guys
how ridiculous you mean because a lot of people
that I'm even seeing that maybe not right now
but I know for a fact a lot of people who
hated on me for my take probably
probably some of the people who have been posting about me lately,
like who had me blocked once and then unblocked me to reshare my tweets
and think they're dunking on me somehow.
You know,
they were also dunking on me for probably my Tucker takes back then,
only to now be celebrating his excommunication and all these things.
It's like they're,
okay,
you're mad at me for supporting Tucker,
or you're mad at me because you want to support Tucker and I'm not there.
And now you have completely inverted your position to you don't longer support Tucker.
what happened, what changed.
Which time were you wrong?
Because one of those times you're wrong.
Neither time.
They're never right or wrong.
They're always just somewhere in the middle.
But they claim to be right.
I file away everything, guys.
Yeah, and on that note, too, just for me personally,
obviously I write about and talk about the Sovereign Alliance idea a lot.
And, man, do I get a kick out of an enraged, furious,
maddening kick out of watching on the periphery of the Venezuela,
and now Iran situation, 90% of the truther movement talking about how Trump is owning China and the Russians
when they spend the rest of the time aping my takes almost word for word on the secret game
theory going on between Donald Trump and Russia and China and how they are part of an alliance
and they're going to make peace with each other and they're all in the same team, except right when
a headline hits that Trump is winning an energy war against China, it becomes the plan to defeat
China in an energy war, right? So then as soon as Trump has his meeting with Xi in April,
they are immediately going to invert and we're going to see all the drops and we're going to see
the pictures of Trump and Xi in the hidden city, the forbidden city, and this was planned
long ago, but right now they are super pleased if Trump cuts off all energy flows to China.
Almost like none of these people have any principles or a consistent framework through which they view
the world. Almost as if, man. But hey, what do you think we maybe get a quick word from one more
of our sponsors? Yeah. And then we can get some boost and some rants if you don't get the boost pulled up.
Got him
Okay, let me see
What we got available
We already did a rumble wallet, right?
We did
Is that a yawn?
It was
It was a suppressed ion
What to do here
Some of these I think are for
Can't tell how these work
You know what?
We'll just
Speaking of Tucker
Something I thought was kind of funny tonight
We got replaced by the fresh and fit
Again, but we usually do
On the show, yes, we do
before that when we were featured we were featured above Tucker Carlson and Tim Poole
who were live at the same time on their channels and all three of us were displaced
by fresh and fit Joe Gilmore in the chat says John fears Q not sure why this
dude you come into every chat and say this is so retarded it's not fucking true at all
I don't I'm so retarded I don't has hosted the most popular Q shows outside of X22
report on the internet for the last three years. I don't get why you constantly come into my chat
and try to accuse me of something I'm not. That's the dumbest day. Like either stop watching
or start telling the truth because that's bullshit. So retarded.
I mean, he's pretty consistent. I mean, it could be. Definitely could be. But so dumb. I don't
understand. But your decoders are retarded. That's all I'm saying. Read the cult of Morpheus,
buddy. Yeah. Why does Tim Poole,
the crap out of me that's a good question wretched man that I am I think he
annoys the crap out of a lot of people I haven't I haven't seen much of him I haven't
the nice thing about the Iran narrative is there's been very little Epstein talk
which is they're trying to bring it back are they now did you see they subpoenaed
Pam Bondi today to try to get it back in the news who did it was it was probably
like one of the Nancy Mace or some shit is either Luna
No, no, she's been pro-Trump.
It's going to be what, it's either going to be, hold on, before you tell me, it's either going to be Mace or Massey or like, maybe like a Rokane or something.
The move was spearheaded by rep Nancy Mace.
Fucking, fucking bitch.
And then is there any other?
Oh.
Four Republicans reps Lauren Bobert.
Scott Perry, Tim Burchett, and Michael Cloud joined Democrats on the panel to force the subpoena through.
interesting Michael cloud
I'm gonna have to get him on
yeah they're gonna he's one of the guys
he's gonna get Pam up there and be like
you can't handle the truth
or she's gonna say that to them
I'm starting to think
that Timberchette
is avoiding me
because I've had some people
like you know hey
we're gonna try to get
get this guy in your show
and I was sneaking everywhere he goes
I was able to
snag his com directors
email address.
So I have the, like, this is the guy
whose job
is to respond to emails
he receives about scheduling him
for interviews.
And I sent him
an email
requesting an interview and I have not yet got a response.
So I feel like
I may be getting avoided.
Spooked him.
Yeah, it's the pesky tax question.
It is interesting, though, that in the midst of Donald Trump
talking about nothing but the discombology,
in Iran that all Congress wants to talk about is Jeffrey Epstein.
No.
Hmm.
I don't know. They tried to do the whole vote where they, you know, you can't do that,
Trump.
And they got shot down.
I was in the Senate.
Yeah.
Well, again, we've talked about this a few times and we will many more times this year.
But the only person doesn't seem that concerned about the midterms is Trump.
I'm sure we're going to get the Trump truce of like, our country will
just die immediately
if this doesn't happen a certain way.
But
he doesn't seem to acknowledge
the existence of Congress
all that often.
And it seems to upset Congress
a lot. Here's the thing.
Glass of the Aquatics.
Bro, y'all dumb if
think we Stalin-Ebstein stuff.
No. First world peace.
Then it's all revealed. How are
people so dumb still after decades of watching
these things? Still email reach.
it's a funny take because
Friday
as of Friday
yeah first of all we don't think that but I'm telling you how
you thought how I think you thought
Friday you didn't even know this war was going to happen
so you definitely were not like
first world peace then like a month ago
you were like see everything's here
everything's we got it all we got all the Fstein stuff see
and then now it's like okay well maybe we didn't get any of the stuff
we thought but obviously we had to wait to actually
expose that stuff until you know
whatever oh it's the war that's why we're
waiting to it. Now I get it. Like, get out of here. Retarded. And again, the funny thing is when I know
that their sock accounts is when I see that they are actually saying the opposite of what we just
said, which is that Congress is accusing Pam Bondi of holding back files. We are not.
Which is why we think it's retarded. Well, don't speak for me there because I don't, I don't trust
Pam Bondi. I haven't. I thought she was a clown the whole time. And I wouldn't,
be surprised if there were members of his DOJ, Trump's DOJ and his administration generally,
like a Pam Bondi or a top launch or some of these other people who were intentionally
bucking up the release of the Epstein files, which Trump didn't campaign on, but at every
opportunity I said, yeah, put them out.
I don't care.
Put them out.
Trump is not the one who's going through there in a back office one at a time choosing which
files are released.
That's other people.
It wouldn't surprise me or shock me to see that there was intentional mess ups or just mess
ups generally that would later look bad upon Trump and his administration to make it seem
like there's a cover up which they could later use to damage him like if you were writing a script
of how to let's we need to plan an op it's going to be a long-term op just in case Trump gets
back in there that we can unleash this time bomb so that it explodes in Trump's face and we need
some people to help us do it but you couldn't have rid it better than the fstein thing because
Trump wasn't the one who built up the lore other people did
and it like reached a fever pitch because of people in Trump's administration, not Trump himself.
Trump was never the one that even did the whole, were the most transparent administration in history.
He latched on to that a few times, but that was started by other people in his administration.
And like the con ink influencers.
Like I would not be surprised if Pam Bondi is in on it.
And again, they're just trying to keep reinjecting it to take over the news cycle.
It doesn't seem to be working.
Yeah, glass of the products works on like YouTube.
Let's see, I always love checking and like see how long these people have been following.
Because I've never seen that account in the chat before.
So, yeah, they're retarded.
I am a little bit retarded with syntax of how people communicate.
I'm going to photographic memory with that.
Yeah, Renetta Ford here, you kind of nail it though.
Blondie is setting up Trump for impeachment.
That's not how you spell impeachment, but that's what it.
what it appears
could potentially be having.
Part of the plan though, so she must be good.
Yeah.
Anyway, do his favor, hit the thumbs up.
Let's do the Boose.
I'll do the rants.
If you want to...
Boose, we got carrying the fire,
sent $10 over.
I can't remember a time when Israel looked so bad.
Maybe it's exposure,
but it also feels like someone's working overtime
to make me think so.
They seem to have a major influence
in our government and media,
so why are we seeing all the negative stuff?
stuff.
That's from carrying the fire.
It is interesting.
There's a lot of negative reporting on Israel.
I think that's the most difficult narrative to untangle.
And the media doesn't really know, speaking of the discombobulator, I don't think the media
really knows what to do about it.
You know, like if they go too far in one direction, they're anti-Semites.
And if they go too far in the other direction, um, but
they're kind of going against their overlords.
Yeah. Well, this is what I said about Trump, though, with the Israel thing is like, if it really
was a problem, it's been a problem for a long time, their influence over our government.
And at no point in history has it ever been so apparent and so talked about then now, and I think
that's my design. I think Trump, I think there's a reason so many people are like kind of
anti-Israel, and I'm not saying all like anti-Semitic or anti-Jews or whatever.
but in terms of their pervasive influence over American politics
I think that's never been more apparent and I think it's by design
Glass City Aquatics wanted to clarify that they've been a fan of this show
since the Obama days so that's how that's the level of authentic
sometimes you know we don't often like to do this but sometimes it's a good
thing for the chat to see that we're not actually crazy when we
tell you that these people create accounts or pay for accounts to come into our shows that
may or may not be Pajit's.
You can find very cheap listings to do this and say kind of nonsensical stuff to derail
conversations and sometimes I don't know so much about the cost of these things.
It's pretty easy.
But yeah, you can do that.
You can buy likes for like 20 bucks.
You can do all kinds of things.
But when you say that you've been watching a show for years before that show existed,
it means you didn't read the commission email that you were given on the talking points that
you're supposed to bring into the chat, which is how these things work.
And I don't think they're getting their money's worth because a lot of the soccer accounts
stop after the first like five minutes of the chat and they go away.
And sometimes they'll come in the last five or ten minutes or so.
so Joe Gilmore on funds I think Joe Gilmore gave us a $5 rank God bless you guys and all you do
Is that a it's an apology, but I'll take it
KCMO mom sends 25 bucks over need need advice husband is slowly waking up and voice concerned about the Republicans losing the midterms
He wants us to send money to the RNC my suggestion is to fund local Missouri, but he thinks we need to support toss-up elections elections
elections are fake.
Well, you sound based.
Man, I can't imagine donating money
to a political party ever.
Yeah.
I would never donate money to Donald Trump.
Like, it's fucking mine.
It's for my family.
And I'm not going to give money to politicians.
What are they going to do?
What does the money do when you donate it to politicians?
Like, what do they use it for?
Like, how does that help them get elected?
Does it go into a commercial?
Does it go to their pocket?
Does it go to pay for, you know, campaign?
I don't even know who they hire, like analysts or whatever.
Like, where's the money going?
How does it help them get elected because nine times out of ten?
It's either going to media or it's some sort of pyramid scheme or something.
It's bullshit.
I would never give money to a politician either.
If there's a cause that the politician says they're going to help support, like, yeah, we're going to go and fix the broken education system or something.
Give the money to something education related instead that you can vet and know we'll be doing anything.
In your orbit.
Yeah, it's always better.
Or convince him to support Badlands Media so we can keep our lights on.
Right.
But yeah.
You guys should all donate to my campaign when I do run for...
to bring to Kennedy's back.
That we're going to do.
I heard they already are back.
Since I found out we're from the same clan,
I'm going to resuscitate the name.
I thought they already are back.
I thought that's what the whole release of this new TV show is like comms that they're back.
Damn it.
That's going to make it awkward.
If I'm running against JFK Jr.,
it's going to make me look like a bad guy.
Isn't that funny?
I don't even know,
is it Hulu putting out the show?
Yeah.
But it's like now that,
now it's comms.
It's comms from the team.
From Disney.
From Disney.
They own Hulu.
So, yeah, comms from Disney.
That's what we're at now.
Crazy.
When they're not busy being satanic pedophiles, they're sending us comms.
Is that all the boost?
One more boost from 1027.js, 20 bucks.
Looking forward to tonight's DPH.
Thank you, Joe.
Thank you.
Fellow North Dakota.
Did you guys get the ones?
There was a couple from the 25th, which was one you and Chris were on.
It was 1027 J.S.
said well it was it a Saturday
uh oh no is it when you and alpha were on I meant
I would have read those then okay
that we're good yeah
um okay got some rants here for you guys
Ziggy girl says by the way if you want to find
an outro video you can
oh you should find that the Joe Biden clip
that whoever sent in the chat earlier
DVZ one yeah put put it in the
private chat and I'll put it up
Ziggy girl 1776 2.0 we are fighting
for our sovereignty revolutionary war um who owns iran's oil british petroleum iran is just a proxy
expand your thinking yeah this is very much the prometheus action thing i'd encourage you guys to go
read uh matt erit subsack on this i know a lot of the stuff they say sounds like really cool
and some of it they might be right but i think um matt kind of nailed it on the head with that
thomas time 76 retired marine gets his arm broken while trying to protest going to war for israel
one for CanCon and Al for tomorrow.
Yeah, I, uh, I heard about that video.
I can't bring myself to watch it because I heard as, you can like see his arm snap.
And that just, I, if I don't have to watch videos like that, I don't want to, but that's
frustrating that, uh, that happened.
I will eventually watch it, but not right now.
Rise of tire, five dollars.
Oh, excuse me, I mean.
Uh, did you, did you all know that the first lines of the Lion King theme song that
plays when baby Simba is being held out.
That's sung in some African language translate to,
look, it's a lion.
Oh my God.
I'm not going to fact check that just so that I can believe it as the truth,
no matter what.
No way.
And I want it to be dubbed over with somebody saying that.
What the heck are these videos?
I need to find something on that.
I think ghosts sent it to that.
Look, there's a line.
my god i'm gonna okay i'm gonna i'm gonna look into that man that's hilarious by the way i want to
check if there's any youtube are you guys doing over on youtube is there a cratum availability
crisis hold on do you do you want to read um the next rant here i'm checking something out
what are you saying ash oh same she said uh by the way guys subscribe to the back
Badlands Substack, badlands.substack.com.
We got the brief going out Monday through Friday every morning.
It's sick.
And then we've got the Blitz, which is an exclusive stream, exclusive show that goes out to Badlands Subsdack subscribers on Saturdays.
Fill that Saturday void in your heart.
I'm trying to figure out what they're saying in the YouTube shot that Badlands needs to see.
I don't understand.
Is it this?
must be this
see if I can copy
can you read the next round for me man
which one were you on
we just did the rise of tire one
do this final demand
final demand Trump is covering for Epstein
yet today the house voted down
exposing the names of themselves and their aids
our tax dollars have been settling
sexual harassment and other crimes
over 18 million dollars
isn't that crazy
yeah
yeah
Cam Cuxi
how I imagine the first call with the second
IRGC leader went.
This is what's the new Iatola.
Is that what he?
That's what he posted.
So funny.
This is what a,
hold on.
We'll put ghost video up here.
I mean,
Cam.
Oh, we're not done yet.
Not for the outro.
I'm saying he just sent this over in a rant.
Oh, okay. Yeah, go ahead.
This is the
this is the phone call with the first IRG.
DC leader, he says.
Second IRGC leader.
This is the last policeman.
Who is this?
This is flaming
Blackwood!
Okay.
Flaming Dragon.
Fuck face.
First, take a big step back.
We should probably take it off
YouTube first.
Okay.
So we don't get
the coverage.
Guys, we're going to take about
to YouTube because we're almost done.
Come on over to Rumble if you want to see these videos.
Yeah, come where the adults watch things.
Like fresh and fit.
Yeah.
Okay.
Bye.
Okay, and then we'll put it back up.
So you should start it over.
Yeah, that will.
This will be great.
This is the last ghostman.
Who is this?
This is flaming.
Blackwood.
Okay.
Flaming Dragon.
Fuck face.
First, take a big step back and literally
fuck your own face.
Kind of pan, Pacific bullshit power play
you're trying to pull here.
But Asia Jack is my territory.
So whatever you're thinking,
you better think again.
Otherwise, I'm going to have to head down there.
And I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you.
You're going to have to call the fucking.
United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
I am talking scorched earth motherfucker. I will massacre you. I will fuck you up. Man, that is such a
great. That's like the last great comedy. Yeah. Less Grossman. That is kind of,
Trump does take some cues from Les Grossman when he, uh, when he does his truce and everything. He's
like, epic fury.
more like you should be epically furious that we're doing it.
But anyway,
how I imagine,
that's when you just read,
TMPB 70,
not sure if it's been said yet.
Peace through strength requires an occasional display of strength.
It doesn't require that.
Just that you have the strength,
the goals to never use it.
I think that's what Trump said in his first term.
He said that repeatedly.
We have all the strength,
goals to never have to use it.
So,
but I get what you're saying.
And it's a justification.
Let's just be honest.
GFontas 101,
Congress passed the War Powers Act in 1973
that President Nixon
vetoed in Congress
used a super majority
in both houses
or is in a veto override
even this Congress has agreed on record.
Yep.
I just think either way
Trump's just doing what he's going to do anyway.
Oh yeah.
I'm not saying
I'm not even saying that he shouldn't.
I'm just saying like we're being honest
with ourselves, which I appreciate.
Technically unconstitutional.
A.K. Tard Farmer. My cousin is a missionary in D.C. that has prayed with him. Maybe I can have him mention you. Yeah, have him pray for me too. Have your cousin pray for me and then have him also tell him to have his guy respond to my email. That would cool.
While praying preferably. Yeah. Veritas 1776. Can everyone please have the like button? Yeah. Do us that favor.
Okay, I think we got the lion.
video
that we're going to share them
just get
pulling up
no we'll do this one first
once I get this
once I get this pulled in
the next rant though
was from Joe Gilmore
God bless you guys
and all you do
thank you God bless you too Joe
let's stop
lying about me
and my cue stance
the mere cat
90% of the shit you see
on social media is fake
I hate bots
Abraham Lincoln
No, it's eat an empaniata, yummy empaniata, eat an empaniata, yummy empaniata, over and over again.
That's what the Lion King, allegedly.
Okay, this is what Rise of Tired.
Who used to have great empanadas is Taco Bell.
Okay, here's, sorry, I didn't hear it, just next to have this video playing in the background.
I said Taco Bell used to have great empanadas.
I'm not a taco bottle.
Do it.
I sing it like, Nancy Gonian.
What is it?
Yeah, what does it mean?
It means.
Luke, there's a lion.
Oh my God.
You're joking.
That is not what that means.
That is not what that means.
That's exactly what it means.
It means look, there's a lion.
Oh my God.
Look, there's a lion.
Oh my God.
It's a lion.
Yeah, I can do it.
See, this could be a case where that is literally true and not as dumb as it sounds.
Because, you know, in context...
Don't over-explain it and take the humor out of the BB.
Don't.
No, it's funny on a literal basis.
But it's like when you literally translate other languages and they do that.
Oh, yeah.
But it's probably trying to say, like, look upon this lion.
Like, it's like a blessing to.
type of thing, but it sounds absurd.
Like, because that's what he's doing.
He's holding the lion up to like the whole kingdom.
He's like, look, look upon the lion, my God.
It's like a ceremony.
So funny.
But it's funnier when it's literal.
Yeah, and it was funnier before you over explained it,
but that's okay.
All right, guys, we're gonna get out of here.
Hit the thumbs up.
Can you have any more cat questions since you just brought up
the lions again?
I don't.
I, you know, now that I have a cat, technically.
Do you have a cat?
Oh, my girlfriend brought her cat
with and now it's the cat obviously likes
me more. It's basically my cat now.
If you ignore them, they're all, they love
that shit. Yeah, it's, well,
that's, it's a weird
cat. Like, I feel like
it hates me. Like,
you know, it's like one of those cliches like, oh, your cat
actually wants to kill you. It's very
much like that.
Yeah. But
I don't, I don't know.
It's hard to explain. It's just
a, it's a cat.
Strange animal. Like, if she
She wouldn't ever let me pick.
The cat would never let me pick her up.
Ever.
I can pick mine up and flip them upside down.
Yeah, I can't do that.
She'll like come sometimes.
Well, first of all, every time we're watching a scary movie,
every time, this is like, it doesn't matter.
This always happens.
We're watching a scary movie in bed.
And she will jump up right next to my face and try to jump scare me.
Like in the middle of the scary movie.
do a power boost my cat does a power boost where it goes when he jumps no she just like jumps
right into my face and does a meow like if we're not watching the scary movie then she won't do it
so just like do the normal thing on the other side of the bed for somehow she knows if it's like an intense
scary and i will literally get jump scared every single time and get fucking pissed off why is your girl
like any anecdote you have now you're watching some horrific shit that's very into horror movies
it's been good for me though because like i used to be at the point of
where I hated scary movies.
I hated the thought of scary movies because I didn't like being scared.
And now most of scary movies I see aren't scary at all.
They're like, this is fucking scary at all.
There's a couple that I'm like, okay, I'm turning this off.
I don't want to watch this anymore because it's scary.
But that doesn't happen much.
Most scary movies are actually scary.
I think the last scary movie I saw that really scared me.
The demon possession ones are the ones that are scared to me.
So those I think are very real.
Yeah, one of those will be good.
Like, the Gore stuff doesn't do anything for me.
I don't like that.
It's got to be like something that's really freaky
that you could kind of imagine being a real thing.
Yeah.
I mean, when I was, I've told the story before, I think.
But when I was in high school, we had one class.
It was like mere Christianity.
We read through C.S. Lewis's book.
We had a priest that taught it.
And he brought in, like, actual tapes
from an exorcism
and it scared the shit out of me
and he used it he's like
the only reason I'm doing this is because
if any of you ever mess with a Ouija board
this is what you're going to get
he was like doing it to scare us away from
it's like scaring us straight almost you know
not that any of us were going to play with Ouija boards
in the first place but he was like very adamant about it
and yeah so like the demonic possession ones
always freak me out because I'm like
I feel like even thinking about this is going to give me
me possessed.
Well, if you want the one that's like the scariest, I would say in modern times, have you seen,
has she made you watch hereditary?
I don't think so.
And I probably won't.
Ask her if she's seen it.
She's seen literally every scary movie you could possibly think of.
She's like all caught up.
She waits for the new ones to come out.
Like I don't watch many horror movies, but I did see that.
And that one is freaky.
A recent horror movie that was good, but is very odd in tone, came out this year, or last year, and it was weapons.
Not even really a horror movie.
It's like kind of a comedy sometimes, but that's a good one.
Yeah, C.C. in the chat says, I watched that for the first time by myself in the dark.
So that means she's watching more than once.
Yeah, but the first time she watched that by herself in the dark.
She's...
Yeah, the ending of that movie is pretty messed up.
Yeah
Brett Hauer
If John goes bald
We won't know
If we got to blame
Cici or Sather
For pushing carnivore
I don't do the carnivore diet
But
I'm thinning
It's part of life
It's gonna catch up with me eventually
See what happens
Yeah
I think my heart
Will just give up
Before I lose my hair
Yeah
I hope so
I guess
Yeah can we get out of here
We have a great
I think we're good
I think we're caught up with everything.
Thanks, everybody for tuning in.
Hit that thumbs up.
And I'll be back on tomorrow.
1 p.m. Easter on the Daily Herald.
You'll be back.
I'll be on the Blitz Saturday on the substack
and otherwise Sunday night with Jonathan Drake
for the narrative.
That'll be really good.
And you should join Onlylands one of these days.
Yeah, well.
I think I'm sponsoring OnlyLands this week.
Then you, of course.
So then you'll absolutely be there.
So that's how you do it.
Now I should do it.
You only show up when you're sponsoring.
I see how it is.
Oh, just because there's a snowpocalypse.
I gave you shit for this last time.
I know.
So hey, I haven't seen you in like nine months.
Why are you here?
Oh, every nine months I sponsor the show.
And show up.
I'm just kidding.
Okay.
See you guys later.
Enjoy this video.
I'm going to turn a soup or something, super salad.
Super Sam.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Super Sand thing. Raisin. Son, what is it?
Great. Got it. Super Sand!
Holy! Told you!
I'm going to attract all seven of them with this year, Dragon Radar.
Then I'm going to, you put them together and you get a big orange fella, right?
It gives you a coupon.
Joe.
No, no, it's a wish. Yeah, you get a wish.
And I'm going to, I'm going to wish for stuff.
Joe, what are you going to do out there tonight?
I'm going to hit him with my big purple thing.
The Gallag Gun.
Yeah.
The Garlet Gunn.
The blast him right in the...
Gallag Gunk.
You know what I'm talking about.
You know, Joe.
What's the plan out there tonight, Joe?
Going to use the fingers, you know?
I'm going to charge up my special bean can something.
What's it called again?
You know the one.
Special bean cannon.
Yeah, that's it.
My Spectacle Bean Camel.
