Badlands Media - Devolution Power Hour Ep. 439: Iran War Narratives, Fifth Generation Warfare, and the Media Battlefield

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Jon Herold returns from a brief vacation to join Burning Bright for a wide ranging Devolution Power Hour covering the latest developments in the Iran conflict and the confusing media narratives surrounding it. As Jon gets caught up on the week’s events, the hosts examine the strange contradiction in the headlines claiming both victory and ongoing escalation, raising questions about whether the public is watching a traditional war unfold or something more complex in the information domain. The discussion explores the idea that modern conflicts may be fought as much through perception and messaging as through conventional military force. Burning Bright argues that the Iran situation could be an example of fifth generation warfare, where psychological operations, narrative management, and strategic messaging shape how events are interpreted by the public. Beyond the war narrative, the hosts also touch on election related developments, including reports involving Maricopa County, and the broader theme of how information is filtered through competing media ecosystems. Throughout the conversation, Jon and Burning Bright challenge listeners to look beyond headlines and consider how modern geopolitical conflicts often involve layers of strategy that are not immediately visible.

out of the badlands explain those badlands that's a hell of a name joe biden can't be present congress the chair declares the joint session is all well good evening everybody and welcome to the wednesday edition of the devolution power hour i'm back some of you maybe didn't even notice i was gone but those who did i'm back for my little vacation i gotta say man totally checked out the most i've checked out probably ever and it was fantastic i have no idea what's going on since i left we we left saturday um so yeah no idea i ran war no idea yeah no idea um my headspace right now is just in such a good place so can't wait for you to mess it all up yeah i mean i was saying before the show that this is like a very fitting we talk about some of this stuff every week sciops etc but the iran war really it takes the cake for me

in terms of uh the story being that nothing makes sense and that everything is fake uh so yeah nothing has changed uh i'll i'll show you some we've got some clips we've got some headlines uh just Just to catch you up on the brief, the brief sort of bicameral that's going on right now is Donald Trump has announced that we won the war in Iran. So that's good for you to know. But it's still going on? Well, I wouldn't say that. I would say that Trump says it's, quote, very complete. That was yesterday.

Okay. It's still like going to keep going on and there's a lot of bombing to come and a lot of more war happening. but otherwise we have both one and it's very complete and also even though there are two weeks of bombings scheduled we are told he did tell Axios today that we ran out of things to bomb so all good to know I think all good news for you to come back to yeah that's great that's great news I'm sure people are still upset or a cheering on just about everything only at us people in bad lands out bad lands wherever are just extremely upset at the people who think that perhaps a fifth generation war is being fought with fifth generation war tactics that's that's that's that's a bold statement burning bright crazy yep but uh you know i'm sticking to it crazy okay well i can't

wait to go through those clips i did hear there was an election story i didn't even finish reading I was like, you know what? I got about a couple paragraphs in and said, I'm going to go cold turkey tonight because that's what you deserve. For once, you're going to have to dictate and direct the whole show while keeping it under like, I don't have two hours, you know. Yeah, I can't do that part of it. Be respectful. I'm not much of an elections guy in terms of election stories, but I'm vaguely aware of a couple election stories this week. Yeah, the big one I want to talk about, which you should bring up.

is the FBI rating Arizona or Maricopa County. I think that is notable, even though I don't know any of the details. So we should get into that. Trump did not issue his new national resilience strategy, so that doesn't change. That's like one of the only things I Googled when I got back. It's like, you know what, maybe, maybe I was gone. He finally issued that damn thing.

But nope. So that sucks. But anyway, yeah, I was in Legoland and Peppa Pig World this weekend the last couple days just tearing it up a British pig so that is I guess yeah I think he's British I don't think it's American like if you cut him up and cook him up it's probably more like closer to Canadian bacon than it is American bacon city of London we're being told everything ties back to so so maybe I was actually you're doing comms the whole time yeah it was it's a good time if you have kids under the age of like eight or nine highly

recommend. They absolutely loved it. It was pretty easy, easygoing for me. Nice. So it's good stuff. Is Lego Land a part of like the big parks or is it its own thing? No, that it's like it's own like Lego Land and Peppa Pig World are connected to each other. They're their own thing. They have like a hotel on the property and then like just across the street is this little like Lego Land Resort which was just like a bunch of condos and we were in those and they had like a pool there and yeah

it was really good and then the universal stuff I gosh it was like an hour away or something that that was pretty cool we went and just walked around there for a little bit we didn't like going any the rides and then yesterday also we stopped by at the

Oak McCullough Kiff skiff like we went to their place and hung out on the beach and about that. No, it was great. They have a really nice place. Really nice views. They let us use their pool. It was just so cool of them. Great.

Yeah, it was a great, great little vacation. Kids loved it. Is their pool area fenced in? It is. But I know the code now. So if anybody wants it, I will be selling that code to anybody wants access to the mccullopool pool. Decoding. We never do that.

No, the great people, very awesome of them. It's nice to see them again and nice of them to host us. They were the hostess with the mostest, you might say. Yeah, man, I'm very excited to talk about whatever tonight. So how about we do this? Let's get a quick word from our sponsors. Probably be a little rusty. That's expected, I think.

I'm pretty much rusty every episode I do anyway. So no change there. I didn't want to sponsor tonight because I figured that you would be rusty. So did you see that ad read it for Saturday show? That was fantastic, I thought. I didn't butcher a single word. I didn't see it, but I did trust that you said you read it. I thought you were in the chat.

No, I wasn't in the chat Saturday. Yeah, you were. Oh, yeah, I was later on with the, yeah, I was getting screenshots. You're right. Jeez. So you did see that. Where did the week go? So you're lying to me.

I suppose I did. I did see so many of them this week. So, you know, it's like a dime a dozen at this point. Yeah, just find that many ads, ad spaces. I did see that you got one single review on Amazon, which is enough to catapult you to number one on the leaderboard. You know, what is funny is back, you know, I used to live this shit in the publishing industry. And there are so many, there are so many strategies of what you do. And one of the big things you do as an indie author is get a street team together.

So you get reviews to populate on the product page within the first 24, 48 hours, add some social proof there. And with this, I was like, I am not doing any of the stuff I learned in the publishing industry. I am just going to put the book out and tell people about it. And I ask people for reviews. If you guys did buy the book and enjoy it on Amazon or Audible, do leave a review. please and a rating because it actually does help but yeah I didn't try to do that I was like you know what we're not going to play any algorithm games or anything like that we're just going to put this shit out there it's evergreen too it'll be there forever so is it

your are you the only review was it no that was a that was a real just organic review somebody got in there like right away because there's some people that obviously have read the print book that came out like six months ago that but then there's a lot of people that like yeah I'll review it and I'm like well a lot of you except for one person are definitely lying because there's only one there do you accept negative reviews no I do not accept negative reviews because I'm happy to review it for you consider I haven't read it yet yet though I will read that someday pro tip is if you want to help a brother out and you did purchase the book from one of those platforms

your account reviewing it, the account that purchased the book, reviewing the book, is very algorithmically advantageous because one of the mistakes a lot of authors make back in the old publishing world is they'll get their street teams together. But Amazon kind of got wise to that. They're like, well, these aren't really customers who are reviewing a product that they paid money for. So that's also part of why I was like, I'm not going to mess around with any of that. I'm going to let me do it. But I am kicking, or rather, the Badlands audience is helping the audio version kick the shit out of George Orwell today. I have passed a George Orwell book for this one day.

The one review? No, it's not the review. That's based on sales rank. Oh, nice. So that's how things are ranked on Amazon, yeah. Good for you, man. Yeah, I mean. Anyway.

Well, very. However many people were buying Orwell on March 11th. You should put that in like your bio. You know, March 11th, number one bestselling author for the dystopian sub topic on Amazon. We don't have to get into all the subcategories and what it is. Technically, beating George Orwell and number one bestseller. We don't have to get into the caveats. Well, I like to be specific.

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We'll start with that. All right. I'm only going to play one tiny clip. Chris Paul sent this over to the Badlands chat, and this should catch you up. This is the big news. Breaking. Well, it's only good if you win, you know, you can only do.

And we've won. Let me say, we've won. You know, you never like to say too early you won. We won the best in the first hour it was over. So kind of double breaking news there. Wow. Not only did we win as of March 11th, Wednesday, March 11th. It turns out we won like 10 days ago, whatever this was.

Yeah, like I don't remember when this started a week and a half ago. It started Friday night, not this last Friday, but the Friday before. Right. It's gone on a week and a half. 10 days, 12 days, something like that. And yeah, we won immediately. So being a little facetious, I want to add a little context from a couple other headlines. And there are many more like this.

Before you do that even, I did see, I don't know when I saw this. Might have been over the weekend. Or maybe it was in our badlands chat or something. But Trump also said something about Europe. It's like, it's a little too late Europe. I mean, who cares if you join the war after it's already won? Like he said that we already won a couple days ago. You missed that?

How did I guess? Well, I have been writing about Europe a lot, but I didn't see that quote. But we will get into that because I think that, you know, I'm not just going to call everything fake tonight. I am going to call the war fake, but I think that the fake war is very, very important and a masterstroke on many actual layers of reality. But I just wanted to show two more quotes and headlines just in line with that video there. So written about some of this stuff in the Badlands Brief this week. week, but we had one from CBS. Trump says, quote, the war is very complete, and he's considering taking over the straight of Hormuz. Trump said, quote, if you look, they have nothing left.

There's nothing left in a military sense. I think the war is very complete, pretty much, the president said. Iran has no Navy, no communications. They've got no air force. Their missiles are down to a scatter. Their drones are being blown up all over the place, including the manufacturing of drones and then this was from today from axios this one made a lot of news trump tells axios there's quote practically nothing left to target little this and little that anytime i want to end it it will end trump said during a five-minute call and uh there's other directions to go in with this but for for the start here um okay so this is the europe one yeah okay we don't need people that join wars after we've already won another kind of double

calm right there um there's i've been right working all week on an article just about how donald trump is communicating about this stuff uh because if you were ever going to get on board it's crazy that we still have to get people on board with this as we said at the intro for the show whatever you think is real or not if you ever were to get on board with with the idea that Donald Trump is engaged in narrative warfare all the time, I would like you to look at anything Donald Trump has said at all to anyone this week about Iran. Because whatever you think is or is not going on in Iran, Donald Trump is telling you opposite things in back-to-back interviews constantly, And one of the trends I've noticed out of this Iran war that I think is really interesting and goes in line with a grand thesis I'm beginning to put together is usually we see Trump do something like the first clip Chris sent over where he's at a rally. He's at some sort of event.

Maybe he's outside the White House. He's giving comments to the media. And then those quotes tend to be disseminated throughout the battle space, right? We get all the media reacting to it. We get social media reacting to it. And then we get a million headlines about what Trump said. That's not what's going on this week. What I've noticed is Trump, and this was last week too,

Trump is giving exclusive interviews to everyone in the mainstream media. And they're releasing these interviews like on consecutive days. So this morning, Axios went live with their exclusive. and then all the media reports on that. A few days ago it was, you know, this other outlet, then it was the Atlantic, then it was AP, right? And that, it's not that Trump never gives exclusive interviews, but what I think is so fascinating about it

in the context of the Fog of War right now is Trump will be live, like in that video, saying something while the media he granted an exclusive interview to an hour before is printing a headline of him being quoted as an opposite thing. So the funny thing is, as evidenced by these headlines, the media is finally starting to pick up on the fact that their narrative doesn't make any sense because they're publishing exclusive by Donald Trump who doesn't make any sense right now.

So Axios, this is the same day, the same day on the same masthead that Axios is running a Trump headline about the war being over. They say Trump's a war, Iran war messaging is all over the map. And then we have the Atlantic. Trump can't decide whether the Iran war is still going on. And so obviously they're picking up on this stuff. And I think that there's a strategy here that we can get into. But I think the baseline is that, man, we're used to Trump kind of playing with the media and we're used to fifth gen warfare and the fog of war. But man, I don't think I've ever seen it like this. I don't think I've seen it where the entire global mind is basically utterly convinced of the opposite of what Donald Trump is saying, including his own base.

There's nobody in his own base that is taking what he is saying word for word at face value because unless the war is not what we're being shown it is, then he's bold-faced lying in every interview he's giving. Yeah. So it's put Mag in a bit of a conundrum, I think, in a funny way. This is great. It's the discombobulator, like in real time. That's what we're witnessing. And shout out to Ty in the chat. Thank you for a gift in those subs. Appreciate you, man. Looking forward to seeing you in just a few weeks at Gart. Yeah, this is, this is fantastic. This is we talk about this style of good cop, bad cop from Trump all the time. You know, Chris, he's the lightning rod from one end of one issue to the other. And, you know,

maybe, just maybe, when it comes to navigating the info war, when he's operating like this, and you have no idea what the hell is actually going on, because nobody has any idea what the hell is actually going on. You can admit that, the way to operate within that is based on your first principles. Because it makes zero sense for anybody to be advocating for a war and cheering on a war when Trump is saying that the war's already won, there's nothing left to bomb. If he says there's nothing left to bomb, who's going to be cheering for bombing? What are we bombing then?

I did see there was something that came out like, and I don't know if this is definitive or not, but everybody's trying to hammer Trump on the girls school or whatever, the kids that got blown up. I don't know if we've got any definitive answer on that while I was gone. But this is classic Trump. This is the psychological warfare. He is all over the map. And he's giving something to everybody. And then he's also taking that away immediately.

And so you can't decide whether you're for or against this because Trump can't set the set it for you. It's everywhere. So you have to literally decide for yourself. You can't let Trump think for you in these instances. And it's perfect. Absolutely. I love this. I love it when he does this.

What you basically just said is the whole premise of what I've been writing this week is that essentially, you know, I've written many times and many of us have talked about kind of dueling Trump narratives. right there'll be like there's all these different ways to interpret what he's doing and what he's saying but i don't know that we've ever seen a storyline where in real time Donald trump's narratives are dueling with Donald trump and where you've again in real time you've got an exclusive hit the atlantic and an exclusive hit axios that say the opposite things yeah from the same guy and again this isn't the case of the media's lying this is Donald Trump is being quoted to them and I totally agree with you one of the ways I would frame it is to say like Donald Trump is usually you know you and Chris talk about the the Overton window and kind of like again those two

the bicameral nature of it and how he steps he sidesteps the narrative and all that the good cop back up on the same issues yeah yeah with this it's like trump is the whole overton window right now if you want to operate from the perspective that every single thing you are seeing on social media in viral clips and in viral headlines about the actuals in Iran, you can follow Donald Trump and believe that because he is telling you we hit them harder than anybody's ever hit them. We're bombing this. We're bombing that. We're going to go into the straight of Hormuz right after we're not going to. You get to have that narrative. If you want to say, you know what? I think Donald Trump may be executing a master stroke of narrative disarmament here and that

nothing actually needed to be happening of what we're told is happening in the way we're told it's happening. And Trump would be operating the same way. You get to have that too. And usually he's not deploying, I think, both of those as obviously at the same time. But, you know, I guess, and I'll show one more quote here. I like to use zero hedge, not just as an aggregator, but they're my example of like so close that they're so far. They take themselves, they're the, I call them all media. Like,

they're not MAGA, but they're not mainstream media. I think they are earnestly trying to figure out what's going on. There are also many international writers, like they're not, they're not globalists, they're not Americans. But they make the cardinal mistake of not taking Donald Trump seriously as like a psychological combatant. So they basically are one of those, it's a lot of con ink like this where they take him at face value they take him at face value and they don't think there's an underlying strategy to the things he does they think he's reactive right even though they tend to like him so anyway i thought that this opening of this article they published yesterday was telling it remains increasingly difficult to interpret president trump or to take his words at

face value, especially when it comes to back and forth with reporters on the Iran war and future aims and plans. Hold on. Pause for a second. Yeah. We have a new Ayatollah now? We were told that the Iranians chose a new Ayatollah. He has not been seen. Who is it?

It's a new commini, the little comini, which is what we said. the best regime change possible is one where the regime doesn't change at all exactly that's insane okay that would that would be the same smaller commeney that Donald Trump said I'll be damned if we have another Kamani in there after we're done that's not going to be what's happening so I think Chris was saying like maybe they'll swap him out too but it's also we're also told that every possible leader has been taken out except for the his son the direct successor yeah not the direct successor everybody else. Yeah, so, and he's a hardliner, don't forget.

So, like, we're not out of the woods yet of the war we won. And I also know, before I left, that Paul V guy, the guy who's been, like, trying to get back in there is, he said that, okay, I have accepted the nomination. Like, okay, who nominated you, bro? Is it Pavi? Pavli? I think it's Palavi. Palavi. Yeah, that's so funny.

So funny. Yeah. And me and Chris talked about this on Saturday. It's like, yeah, everybody's cheering on freedom for Iran, but we're going to be the ones that choose who your leader is. So it's not quite the freedom we've been cheering for. We're not going to choose the leader, John. We're just going to destroy the leader if it's the wrong one. And we're going to keep doing that until it's the right one.

You see how this we're not holding the elections for you. We're just killing everyone you will. elect until we stop killing them. That's democracy. That's some classic democracy. That's our democracy. The reason I wanted to point out that quote from Zero Hedge, the face value quote, you just said it to lead into that, which was funny. I'm not trying to let go off on people.

I'm just, it is genuinely, it has genuinely been shocking to me to see the responses, not to what the storylines are and not to what Trump is saying. It is shocking to me that this is the storyline where many of the truth community has chosen to say that the way people like me and Chris perhaps in particular about narrative, but increasingly you, because you know, you used to talk about narrative a little bit as part of your series and now it's most of you talk about that mostly too. because it's obvious that even if you do believe that there's these real kinetic events going on, the narrative that is translating those events to everybody is at the very least under duress, changing constantly.

And specifically Trump, we are getting a lot of pushback about literally, quote, not taking Trump at face value. And if you are taking Trump at face value at this stage of the game, you just are not doing it right. I can't be any more objective about what should be a subjective statement there. I don't think anybody in our audience does. I mean, we've been saying that's true. Like that's one of the taglines of my damn daily show is you can never take Trump of face value. So it's retarded if you do that.

Our audience, I don't think has made that mistake. I mean, maybe sometimes they've made. that mistake when they get real mad at us for us not doing it but them you know doing it that gets silly but you're absolutely right you cannot take trump at face value he's the only one that we know for certain is doing psychological warfare all the time like the only one that we can have say with 100% certainty is doing siops all the time and so there's no reason to ever take what he says at face value and he's proved it time and time again and what's particularly crazy about that or the fact that that needs to be explained to some people and you're right

I know that most of our audience is here because they understand that. Yeah. The thing that's crazy about it is you don't have to have ever heard of a cue drop or believe that you don't even have to believe that there's any kind of special military operations, psychological operations going on. You could just not be a total fucking idiot and understand that world leaders when navigating geopolitical crises lie every second of every day. and often for the benefits of their own people or their operators in the region. Right? Like, if we were involved in a real, very real kinetic operation with special operators on the ground in Tehran right now. And Donald Trump said that in a news conference, the military would be furious that he said that

because obviously it's not something that you say if they're sensitive operations, right? At least you don't say it at the beginning. And it should be obvious there. But I think Trump, if there's a good way of looking at what he's doing here, part of it is he's making it more obvious than ever. I think that if you were one of the people who like managed to cling on as a Trumper, taking him at face value somehow every day, despite him saying opposite things on every day, despite him saying opposite things on every. every topic for 10 years and you got to this week, he might have shaken you off this week of doing that. And that's probably a good thing.

You know, something you said there kind of struck, struck me. The, you know, if you don't expect world leaders to be doing siops and lying to you for the benefit of you, then you're retarded. There are a lot of people, man. I think outside of our community, and even people in our community, they don't do that. I think it's more normal for people to not understand that Trump is lying and doing siops than it is for people to understand that. Nobody recognizes that at all.

And that's part of the problem. And that's why people are like going insane and you were seeing all these emotional reactions online, which has been so nice that I haven't had seen any of that the last couple of weeks. Because people don't understand that. And even some who say they do aren't recognizing that. And so they're having emotional reactions to every little thing along the way. because they can't recognize the siops. And I don't know if we're ever going to cross that bridge where we get people to understand that thing.

If they don't understand it by now, you're going to have a tough time playing catch-up and learning that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. And I want to talk about tonight, you know, what I do think is going on because it's fun to talk about those things of like, I do have a theory with this. I don't have a theory with every sci-op we watch. You know, like I, it's one of the reasons I do fixate on narrative because the reason I fixate on that, it's not just because I'm drawn to it. It's because it's the thing you can most confidently analyze, even if you're not right at the end of it.

We can't analyze actual events that may be being mistranslated to us. What we can analyze is what are people saying about these things? What is Donald Trump saying about it? What is the media saying about it, et cetera? What are other world leaders saying about these things? But yeah, to your point, I think what is just silly, it's like think about even in central centralized narrative and widely accepted normie speak, look at the JFK era. It is codified in the central narrative, in history as we all know it, that John F. Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev navigated the war, sorry, Freudian slip, navigated the world. through an almost war, almost exclusively using back channels.

Now, while they were doing that, while it later came to light that they had been doing that the whole time, both of them were holding public press conferences almost every day speaking to their respective populations about the Cuban Missile Crisis, the lead up to it, while it was. was going on, all this kind of stuff, right? Now, it doesn't mean that every single thing they were saying to the public were lies, but clearly, this is not anything new that world leaders are going to do this. It doesn't even have to be siops. I get the way you're framing it, and I think you're right that they would be using siops. That's not even how I meant it, actually, so you should expect them to be siopping you. I mean, if there are real operations going on that they are trying

to protect, they're not even trying to sci-op the American people. They're trying to say like, hey, I'm trying to assuage your fears and improve morale, and I cannot talk about the actual things that are going on for very obvious reasons that every adult in the world understands.

And yet to your point, the people who got into the truth community, however that was, ostensibly got into it because you are aware that the sciops go a lot further than even what you knew about eras like that and yet those people are like man did you see that trump

said we did this today yes i saw that trump said that today did you see that he said this other thing that completely flies in the face of what you just posted and then it's just crickets right and i think the fun part is looking at both of those and saying okay now that we recognize there are a lot of contradictions and siops going on here is there any way that we can make sense of what's going on. And I think we actually can, but not everybody believes that. Yeah, I mean, it's almost silly to try sometimes when it comes to some of this stuff until you get enough information to actually come to conclusion. There are a lot of people who are very smart and have been following this stuff for a very long time, like Ghost. Like Ghost has been on top of the Middle East situation

for a long time. He's got a better reading on this than I think probably anybody out there. And his sources, too. He's so spot on. Like, he's got a story for everything. And Um, you know, when it comes to some of this stuff where everybody feels like they need to have an opinion on everything and they never want to admit. And that, that's like what social media has become for a lot of these influencers. Like everybody needs to be the expert in everything and have an opinion on everything. And nobody's willing to just be like, yeah, I have no idea. I have no idea what's going on here. That's where I'm at right now.

Like I can, I understand that Trump is, you know, lying. Sciops, whatnot. I understand there's a bigger, there's something bigger going on here, sovereign. alliance, whatever it is, I don't know how he's going to try to pull it off. I don't know why this was a necessary step. You can make arguments for it all day, whatever. It's confusing as hell out there right now. I'm curious what your theory is, though. I mean, I'm sure it fits into the Sovereign Alliance aspect that you've been talking about. That's a separate thing. We can talk about a little later. For this, actually, for a change, I'm not going to focus on the Sovereign Alliance right now.

I also just want to respond to Bannich, found it, said it'll make. more sense later when the actuals in the background come through. I get what you're saying. Maybe. But it is important to point out that when the actuals come through on a delay, all you know is that the narrative, the official narrative has been codified on a delay, right? How long did it take the American people to be told about the Gulf of Tonkin incident? And by that I mean the real Gulf of Tonkin incident. Or we fake the bombing to get into it, into the war. Somebody please look that up for me because I don't actually know, but I know it was decades later, I believe, of when we figured out that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was not only a lie, it didn't even happen. Which is often my example of pointing out when a very real and very costly war was knowingly and intentionally started not on false premises, but on no way. premises, meaning they told you a story about something that happened that didn't happen, and then a war happened.

So again, nothing new. It happened in the 1960s, obviously. They had their doubts. In the 70s, the Pentagon Papers leaked showed internal doubts. 2003, a documentary, The Fog of War, Robert McNamara admitted there was no attack on August forth. And then in 2005, 2006, the NSA declassified and released nearly 200 top secret documents, which definitively proved that there was no second attack. Wow, that was later than I thought. So it took about 40 years. 40 years, guys, for them to admit. And how many actuals in that

intervening 40 years do you think trickled into documentaries? And now we know what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin. And it turned out nothing. Nothing happened. But, which is why I, I, that is the, that's the incident actually of where I coined the phrase, or at least started using the phrase, all real wars are the result of lost information wars. Because I think a lot of people get that part wrong and they think like, oh, you know, 9-11, for example, real thing happened. The story told about it was a lie. We, we believe, many people believe that. So there are consequences of that.

I think most people in this audience understand that and that's why they're here. But I do not think people go far enough with that. There are some very real wars that did not even have a 9-11 preceding them. That in the 60s, the American people were told something happened and what actually happened was nothing. And so we went to war. That is actually how easy it is because most human beings, and we are unfortunately, we see that now. online in the truth community where despite being in the truth community and knowing sciops are going on and knowing about things like the Gulf of Tonkin, for some reason,

there is a psychological barrier for human beings of believing we couldn't go into a real war on the back of somebody just saying something, could we? Yes, actually, it's usually what happens. Yeah, and honestly, you wouldn't even need somebody to say something. People will just go with it because you can't risk losing the midterms. It's as simple as that. It's like, okay, my team's in office,

they say we need to do this. So I got to cheer that because that's just how it is. We're overseeing a lot of that right now too. But you're absolutely right. It makes it interesting when you think of other places and other times. That was in the 60s when they didn't have social media. They didn't have media as we have it now where you could look at anything at the tip of your fingertips.

And you would think that back then it would be much easier. to lie to people because there'd be less people to confirm. But I almost think like right now it's it's much easier to lie to people because there's almost you almost flood the zone with so much bullshit. You can't even tell what's the truth anymore. It makes it that much easier to get the lies through. Yeah, I would I would agree with that, but it's actually, I think you actually said both sides of it in that statement because this is my argument, this is my accelerationist argument about

AI that we've talked about. Yeah. I acknowledge that a lot of people are being tricked in the age of AI, and a lot more people are going to be exponentially tricked every day in the age of AI, right? Whether it's videos or whatever. People can call you now. I mean, within six months, your wife is going to be able to call you on a phone from a spoof number using a perfectly cloned voice and know all your details and not be true. That is concerning. But so there are real concerns with that.

But one of the things I said recently was, is it good or bad that people are aware of the exponential capabilities of AI right now and are becoming aware of it? And I would say it's good. And to your point about the Info War and like the digital battlefield, it is way easier to lie to everybody. It is way easier to disseminate lies on a mass scale. But the flood, the zone thing, we can see in real time it's not going well for them. And I would say the one thing that they used to have a decided advantage of in that era was the ability to centralize a narrative. So if you had four news networks and a few papers of record, you could get the major mouthpieces on board with this is what happened and kind of go forward from there, right? You can't do that right now because you've got dueling narratives coming from.

150 global outlets, each of whom have 100 writers, and then each of whom are being argued with by a thousand people on social media, citizen journalists and all that kind of stuff. And then when you've got people like Trump just lobbing narrative grenades into the middle of it, you can lie to people easier, but I don't think it's easy to form a central narrative as it was. I would agree with that. I think, and that's what it causes a lot of problems because instead of people trying to discern, you know, for the truth and try to figure shit out, they just go with the narrative that makes them feel the warmest and fuzziest inside.

Yep. And that's for a rat. And, okay, so the age of AI, AI information, you know, bullshit flying around everywhere. What's the one place people go to try to debunk AI stuff? To other AI. They talk to the AI, yeah. Hey, Grock, is this true or is this? AI.

I think rocks right too. That could be our outro if you find it quick enough. Yeah, I will. It's that guy. I've been watching like these Andrew Russo videos. Funny guy on YouTube. That guy, I don't know if that is. How about you go find that?

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This is like the 5,000th time I've been removed from the Info War, so I'll think I'll survive. Right. Which movement might you be referring to? Because I never signed up for one. I'll take it. I'll take it. Clarify. Anyway, I thought this is really nothing new.

The way we frame a lot of these kinds of things. It reminds me, I know Chris and I talked in 2025 in similar framing with Operation Midnight Hammer, which was one of the... The ways I had put that was I think we're watching a denuclearization narrative leading to a re-nuclearization actual. And that second part, I think, is long running. It's not resolved or anything. But basically narrative disarmament is what a lot of us said at that time, or at least a few of us said. Trump said that they were testing bombs, like deep underground, testing nukes.

Yeah. I thought that was hysterical. And the way he talked about nukes, we did that at the last guard, I'm pretty sure. We played that video. Yeah. He was, that whole summer was like all about nukes and he was saying N-word. He kept having some fun with that. He led into that summer with his, I think, three triple tripled up on nuclear themed executive orders on accelerating nuclear energy and all that kind of stuff.

So that was big. But with this, I've been saying since 2023, I think the Middle East is Donald Trump's Kobayashi Maru, the impossible task from Star Trek. didn't see this narrative coming. I thought the narrative disarmament was 2025, the narrative disarmament of the Iran situation. So what's wrong about that? But I think that's still what's going on here. One of the things I've been saying on some of my takes in the brief and everything over the last few days is,

is it possible to acknowledge what we're saying at the start of the show about Donald Trump, kind of speaking out of both sides of his mouth about the Iran conflict and basically saying, hey, we won, we blew everything up that needs to be blown up, there's no threat to the U.S., and we still have further to go with this operation. And the way I reconcile those two things is I think that that paradox is reconcilable. If you consider, I'm not saying nothing is happening, but if you consider this a narrative disarmament operation, last summer that framing was depriving the central narrative of the story that Iran is a dangerous nuclear power right that was what was disarmed last summer right now I think what is being disarmed is what was going to be a regional war that would then devolve into or evolve into

a global war. And I think there's a couple hints of that that are sneaking through. This is just how I'm seeing things. But I'm kind of noticing kind of in the signal, in the noise, there's a few interesting bits of signal. Ghost has probably has a million headlines like this, but as an example, the same days, days that Trump is saying, we won this war, we're going to be out of there soon. Thanks, Tamarack for the sets, speaking of. Yeah, thanks, Tamarack. from the Wall Street Journal, Trump says the Iran war is nearly one, but Israel has other ideas. We had a lot of headlines like that this week where the media is claiming Israel and Donald Trump are not on the same page.

In fact, we got reports when you were gone that Trump was mad at Israel for some of the strikes that Israel is doing, right, in Iran. Well, that was like one of the funniest parts at the beginning. It's like, everybody's, oh, Trump went to war for Israel. And then Trump comes out, well, well, actually, I'm the one who got them into the war. And now they're mad at each other after both bringing each other into the war on behalf of each other. Yeah. Absolutely. So there's contradictions right there where, again, and we don't know what is true and what's not.

I'm just looking for. You did what I do to you. You didn't listen to a word I said. That's true. Okay. Just a minute. Just be honest. That's cool.

I got distracted by the chat. I know the chat. Chat's lit right now. The guy's back. He the guy is partially heard you you were saying that Israel and and Trump are not seemingly on the same page no that is what you said that's what I responded to yeah but anyway well anyway it probably wasn't that good um that that narrative again ghost probably has a million things there I also saw this one which kind of slipped under the radar today I don't think

this made huge news and I think it's signal the headline is is even written very strangely. FBI warns Iran, FBI warns Iran aspired to attack California with drones in retaliation for war alert. So this headline is as retarded as it sounds. FBI warns Iran aspired to attack California with drones in retaliation for war. The FBI warned police departments in California in recent days that Iran could retaliate for American attacks by launching drones at the West Coast. Okay, can I pause you? I pause here. I mean, of all the places that Iran could retaliate,

I mean, would we be that upset if they retaliate it by striking California? Where we're at in California? Did they say? They didn't say, but. I mean, I know I have some friends. I just, well, I already got kicked out like 10 minutes ago, so I might as well, I might as well go out like throwing a. fit. Great people in California, some great people, but there are some places where if I could be like, hey, you're going to retaliate. These are the neighborhoods. We want you to retaliate first.

If you were not on the FBI list before, you certainly are now. Oh, I was for sure before. I thought this quote was interesting because I think that this headline is very strangely confusing. We recently acquired information that is of early February 2026. Iran allegedly aspired to conduct a surprise attack in the event the U.S. conducted strikes against Iran. So the surface level way of looking at this, I think as the media is fearmongering, maybe threatening, and saying we knew a month ago that if something like this were to happen, it would make the United States vulnerable. So I think the surface level reading of this is to say the media is saying Donald Trump is putting Americans in danger by doing what he did.

And that the FBI knows he's putting Americans in danger by doing what he did because there could be Iranian retaliation. My read on this from a narrative disarmament perspective is a little different. and that story just adds to it. You know how even last week before you left, we had the infamous Rubio clip saying, you know, people asking him, why did we do this ultimately? And Rubio said,

we did this because Israel was going to attack Iran. And we knew that if they did that, Iran was going to attack us. We then had Donald Trump say, maybe a day or two later, I didn't, Israel didn't force, my hand, I may have forced theirs. Now pair that with that headline. If the FBI under Donald

Trump knew that Iran was going to attack targets in the United States in the event of an attack, and if you reverse engineer this to just a week ago, Donald Trump and Marco Rubio both told you that Israel was going to attack Iran, who would that retaliation have been provoked by? And this starts to lead people into the ghost zone of saying, whether you want to use Israel or just the globalists, to me, I think that this is a preemptive off-ramping from the Iran war that absolutely was planned as a false flag. to strike the United States, and that doesn't mean that Iran would have been the ones doing it, by the way.

It just means we would have been told that Iran has struck the United States in response. The Jews... And when you add that, when you take that crazy theory and combine it with the fact that Donald Trump can't stop talking about how their capabilities have been wiped out and their drones are gone and they have no drones. It's kind of interesting when these stories start coming out here and Trump's saying, I'm not really happy with what Israel's doing. Israel was going to attack Iran.

Iran was going to attack California if and when they were attacked. Yeah. So I haven't read that story yet. What it makes me think of though is Ezra Koen-Wadnik and he retweets Josh Steinman a lot on Twitter. And ever since Biden was in office, I mean, and you know why we've keyed it. on as we're calling Wannock over the years but they talk a lot about how many like foreign terror cells or enemy combatant sleeper cells or whatever have been brought into the united states under the the biden regime with the open border and they've said that multiple times still like

anytime there's a terrorist attack within the united states something they label as a terrorist attack they bring attention to the sleeper cells here in the united states and i wouldn't say we've gotten like a definitive you know this was our enemy this was ira rome and retaliation or Iran doing something here in the United States yet. We've gotten like, oh, this guy was a terrorist sympathizer or something, things along those lines. We haven't gotten a specific storyline there. It's interesting, though, because what you're talking about is like the real reason we got into the war, the fact that we don't have a definitive answer for that and there's multiple different stories is wild in and of itself.

Yeah. Well, Chris just said in check, California going to false flag itself. And that's kind of what I'm saying. So, and it doesn't have to be California. But basically, I guess the simplest way to put, the way I see this is the reason Trump and Rubio and them are having such a kind of difficult time just telling people what was going on is imagine if this is right. Imagine trying to hold a press conference and say, okay, listen, we had intelligence that someone was going to attack Iran. and that that same someone was then going to attack us and say that it was Iran attacking us

in retaliation for being attacked. That's a wrap-up smear that you would see in the media cycle except in the form of a war. Hold on. That sounded retarded. Do it one more time. So they're saying, what we know that they're saying is Israel was going to attack Iran.

Donald Trump preempted. Israel attacking Iran. But there's conflicting stories about that itself. I'm saying that's what Donald Trump is saying. But he's also said the opposite. I'm pretty sure. I don't know. Didn't he say like I brought them

into the war? Yeah. He's saying he preempted. He said Israel was going to attack Iran and he preempted them. Okay. You keep talking. I'm going to find that quote from him. Because he said he was asked if they forced his hand.

And he said, I might have forced theirs. Rubio was the one who most directly said it. Okay. Rubio was the one who said Iran, we had intelligence that Israel was going to attack Iran. And that if they did that, there would have been automatic strikes from Iran on to Americans. Let's listen to us. No, I might have forced their hands. You see, we were having negotiations with these lunatics.

And it was my opinion that they were going to do that they were going to do not. opinion that they were going to attack first. They were going to attack. If we didn't do it, they were going to attack first. I felt strongly about that. And we have great negotiators, great people, people that do this very successfully, and have done it all their lives very successful. And based on the way the negotiation was going, I think they were going to attack first. And I didn't want that to happen. So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. But Israel was ready, and we were ready. And we've, we've heard. had a very, very powerful impact.

Okay. So I was just remembering it. So I'm tracking now. Yeah, but both of those actually, the second part of that is interesting because in the second part of that he seems to be talking about Iran and saying they were going to attack first, right? So we did. It's funny how he doesn't say like we had intelligence. He's like, this is my opinion. I think they were going to do it.

I thought they were going to do it. I felt strongly about it. So might as well. And when you combine that with what Ruby is saying, again, I'm not saying you can take any of these things at face value. which is why we led the show off with all that. I'm just saying I look for patterns in the narratives, right? So it's like, okay, the macro pattern we all agree on is that nothing that these guys are saying about what happened makes any sense

in terms of how they're saying it. Well, what would make sense? If they were preempting a false flag, meaning disarming a false flag. Now, who would be responsible for the false flag? If you think it's Iran, I would argue you have not been paying attention to what's been going on. Now, most in MAGA are not going to get on board with that. Most in MAGA are going to say, obviously, Iran would have been the false flag.

That's not a false flag. That's an act of war. If something is a false flag, it is somebody attacking you and pretending that that somebody is somebody else. And who really wanted a war with Iran? for the US to be involved in a major war with Iran and to be leading that war with Iran. The Jews. Somebody wanted us over there

and somebody wanted to be running point on that. The Jews. Rubio tells us the Jews that they were going to attack Iran and that we were gonna suffer the consequences of them having done that. So let's even say that that's true. Maybe that's technically not a false flag, right? If Iran is attacking the United States because they were attacked by our greatest ally,

why would Iran have that kind of a strategy? Because until now, until Donald Trump, Israel's military strategy was the American government's military strategy because those two things are the same thing, which is what we've been talking about for a long time, right? Kind of reasonable to attack the United States if Israel attacks you, isn't it? So if that even was Iran's strategy, I think what Trump did is he took Israel's move off of the board. And again, this is a rerun in a different, more complex theater of Operation Midnight Hammer. Because during that time, it was even more obvious for anybody that thinks, for anything that gets all upset about ghosts and his Israel commentary. The Jews, Donald Trump told you in a pretty five.

press conference in June of 2025 that he told Israel to turn back live bombers from Iran because he had already taken care of the threat. He threatened Israel to do that. In fact, they were negotiating, right? While they were negotiating. And as I said in the lead up, and I did say this on day one on Saturday, when this stuff start restarted in Iran. I said, Iran is going to be the first player on the game board to agree with Donald Trump's framing of what is happening over there. And Israel is going to disagree. And that's exactly what's been playing out here, where Israel and the U.S. are saying that their allies and they're both against

the Iranian regime. I'm not talking about that. But they are disagreeing completely over how great a threat Iran poses, how complete or endless the war is going to be. whether or not there are going to be increased military operations over there and uh what they should do in response are completely disagreeing and american neocons are all firmly in line with israel while donald trump keeps telling you that the operation is complete in iran is basically no threat yeah so i mean it's i think it's plausible it's just as plausible as any other theory out there i mean nobody again nobody knows what the fuck's going on here um my only issue with that thought process is if they had intelligence or reason to believe that Israel was going to do that, like false flag us into the war.

Like, why would we not show that to everybody and be like, look at this shit. Look at this bullshit. Well, consider, that's why I said the second part after you played that Trump clip, that's not how it was. They basically wouldn't even be able to convince the American people that that's true because Israel would say, we didn't false flag you. did attack you because we attacked them but so instead we just like we go to war to take to i mean whatever the war is we we do that instead of of the false flag like if the intelligence was good enough for them to to get us into the fake war and then defend Israel like in that clip particularly trump is like essentially defending is like oh they didn't drag us in the war we drug

them into the war you know like that if trump had intelligence that that's that's Israel was going to false flag us, which I'm not trying to defend Israel in any way here, because I think that was a totally plausible thing and something they've probably done many times to us already over the years. I just feel like it seems like an interesting response to be like, oh, they're going to false flag us in the war. Well, then I'm going to go to war even harder without a false flag justification. You know what I mean?

It just seems a little. That's why I think it's, that's why my premise is that this is not happening as we're being told it. Doesn't mean nothing is happening again, but I think that because let's imagine, and this is what I try to do when I lay out these scenarios and say, if this is right, what would be the end game? What will things look like? This is what you and I have been talking about this with the Ukrainian theater for a while, right? If we're right that that war has effectively been over for four years and counting, then what would we expect on the back of it? Maybe the original agreement that Volodomir Zelensky agreed to that the allies withdrew him from

will be the thing that is codified, right? And if we are the only people on the internet that are saying that and also the people that don't think it's real, how can all the people who believe it's real be wrong about every single thing that's going to happen at the end of the story? So in this Iran situation, one of the things I said on day one, and you know, I did use the name Khomeini, which may not be true. You know, Chris and I talked about this over the weekend. Like, it could be that they tell us that the next Khomeini gets killed and we keep playing this kind of whack-a-mole with the Iranian regime. But one thing I did say was, if this theory of narrative disarmament holds, what I would expect is that the new Iranian regime at the end

of it will look a lot like the old Iranian regime and that not really anything will have changed except for one really big thing, the narrative reason or impetus for going to war with Iran will have been taken off the board, just like last year they don't have news, right? So if we get at the end of this, it could be this weekend, it could be in a month. If we get Donald Trump going out on true social, going out and doing press conferences and saying and the Iranian regime, both saying, the war is over we have come to an agreement whether that's an official treaty or not

the straight of Hormuz is open we are good that is a new battle space that Israel is now navigating narratively compared to before all this happened because if they then upend a piece that

Trump has codified and brokered it puts them in a much different and much more isolated position I think I would I would agree they're already in that position they've been in that position since because that that's what the june and i'm partially playing devil's advocate here so take it as you will back in june of last year that's what we did already we took away their narrative impetus to get into these wars like we took out allegedly the nuclear facilities and then therefore goes that that's 30 years of justification

for war with iran out the window with that one top gun maverick maneuver and then here we are again And whatever actuals are happening, we don't have to know narratively, Trump got into the war. And it is narratively kind of being done on behalf of Israel. Like if we're being honest about it, the story we're being told about why we're doing it, the justifications. Those aren't up to stuff, in my opinion, for us to be involved there. And then there's also stories. And I think ghosts has talked about this. It's like Israel's already talking about war with Turkey after this.

if the real problem here is the Jews, whatever, not like every Jew out there. I'm talking about just like the leadership in Israel, as we've been saying for a long time, that's the problem that at some point needs to be addressed. Like I understand there's a deep state in every country. Maybe that is what we're taking out here. Totally cool.

Let's do it. Let's replace the deep state with the deep state's eldest son, the lion of succession or whatever, regime change. Whatever. I can get on board with all that stuff. stuff. But at some point, like the theory, as you outlined it to me, I don't know, I just feel like even narratively, there's a lot going on here that could have been handled different. And I know people who are, well, you're smarter than Trump. No, obviously I'm not smarter than Trump. I don't know, have access to inside information. Um, I'm just curious to see how this. I think this ends with with like peace in the Middle East. Like that is going to be the end game here. In order to get there, we also have to. get Israel to stop doing their bullshit. Like, because I feel like they're causing more problems in the Middle East than they are

solving them. You know what I mean? I totally agree with that. And that's why I didn't call, uh, despite me using the terminology a lot, I have always used the Kobayakshimiru terminology about the Middle East. To your point, I didn't use it with Venezuela. I don't use it even with Russia and Ukraine. Um, I think the Middle East is the impossible task. And I think Donald Trump is Captain Kirk and you know that analogy works really well I think because it's not just a surface level hey he's the greatest captain ever the greatest leader he can lead us through the impossible task the brilliance of the Kobayashi maru is how captain kirk defeats the kobiashi maru which is a computer

program and I'll play he he no he actually does play cheats yeah yeah he reprograms the victory conditions of the test And if you think of that with what's going on here, we've been told the victory conditions, to your point about last summer, was Iran cannot have the capability to make a nuclear weapon. Mission accomplished. The narrative is gone. We need Iranian regime change. That seems to be what's going on right now, right? Now, that may not be the only other thing that needs to be deprived of Israel and or the, the globalist war mongers who want this war to perpetuate. And it leads me, your point leads me to something Ghost and I have talked about a lot. You know, a lot of his research on the actuals over there and combining it with my reading on the sovereign alliance.

The tangential storyline here is interesting to watch to a lesser extent China, but really how Russia and Vladimir Putin are kind of looming on the edges of the board here from a narrative and an actual level. And I would say that to address your, you know, if you're saying it doesn't even seem disarmed enough from a narrative level, it seems like Israel could just keep doing it whatever the fuck they want, right? I think that you might be right if this is all we get out of the story. But I've, when I first wrote the Righteous Russia series, I was not talking about Israel in the Middle East, but I did say that I think the narrative between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin is going to escalate to a degree.

that I've even doubted at times all the way through. And I still, every few weeks, come back to that and think, you know what? I don't think they're done with the k-fabe between them. And this is the type of theater that Ghost has theorized. That could be the perfect way for them to codify the Ark of the Peacemakers. And the reason Russia would be significant here to address your point is if Israel is, engage with all this bullshit with Iran and like Donald Trump just can't disarm that narrative and can't seem to get them to fucking stop or get the American people to get them to stop.

If Israel's actions threatened to draw us into war with Russia, I think that starts to grant way more powerful mandate to Donald Trump to do another big narrative. and that might be the last narrative, if you believe a certain reading of the Q-drops, which was always my reading of it, that Donald Trump gets to publicly say, Israel better stop everything that it's doing, right? He doesn't really use as much of that rhetoric about Iran and everything. But if we get Putin coming in here, which he's come close a few times with Israel over the last couple of years and says, last warning, if you fuck up global Trump, trade, which is the big story right now, right? It's not really Iran and it's not really Israel.

It's the Strait of Hormuz. And you've got Russia and China right now, countries two and three on the power scale saying whoever is effing up the Strait of Hormuz really needs to be careful. And if we believe that Donald Trump has an alliance with those two men, or at the very least does not want to go to World War III with them, who is the one party that seems to be screaming us toward conflict with those countries and i would say it's ira israel and europe to a lesser degree so i mean it's it's if there's a conflict for us to like get that world war three story with us and against russia it's this one i mean iran is allegedly allies with china and russia um but they're they're kind of just like whatever

whatever bros the straight home ruse stuff is funny we're getting another um story out of this i did see this today where Trump said he's going to he's going to tap into the uh what do they call it damn it that oil reserve yeah the strategic patrolling reserve or whatever and that's what Biden did and they let it get to super low points and everybody was like everybody on the right was hating on Biden for it and everybody in the left was like defending Biden for it and now everybody's going to be hypocrite again because Trump's in charge now yeah and so that'll be fun well energy i think is a massive undercurrent to what's going on here too but to your point point there, the Strait of Hormuz in Russia, I call it sovereign signal. And I'll always say, like, Trump and Putin and Xi always give you, in my opinion, these markers and these very, very strong hints as to the sovereign alliance. And they often do it in the middle of chaos. So as you said, on the surface level, the U.S. and Russia should be at each other's throats right now in the central narrative because of that Iranian alliance with Russia. Same with China.

Well, what's happening instead? Instead, Donald Trump granted India a special license to receive unsanctioned Russian oil. And which two countries does that benefit India and Russia? And which country is the most squeezed as a result of this or region? Europe. So Europe does not have that exception. Europe is sanctioning the shit out of Russian oil, and Europe's energy markets are going absolutely insane on the back of this,

while both India and Russia get relief. What is Donald Trump? By the way, I haven't been following. I know what before I left on vacation, what is price of oil at? Last I saw it was like 120 a barrel, but. Oh, gee, it got, it went up that high. Maybe that was futures, 93 right now. Okay.

It looks like it got up to 94, 99. Maybe that was a projection. The Iranian regime is saying, get ready for 200. That's their threat. But either way, these are those little sovereign alliance markers where you're like, hold on. So Trump and Putin are in this massive wargaming game of chicken, but Trump wanted to make sure that the Russians could get their oil to market and that India was okay. Oh, and by the way, all the bullshit about Chinese tankers not making it. through the straight, according to the central narrative, they're the only ones going through.

So we've got like the only people isolated right now, generally speaking, seems to be Russia, India, and China, three of like the four sovereign alliance nations, if you believe in that theory. And the country, the region that is most affected is Europe. And I think that that speaks to the larger energy narrative here. Chris Wright sort of got hung out to dry yesterday by saying a bunch of stuff that the Pentagon immediately refuted. What's retarded that our price is going up when we're at war in the Middle East? Like if we're drilling, baby drilling, like we're told we're going to be and should be, you'd think our prices shouldn't be that all too effective.

I mean, maybe some minor stuff, but. Well, we're selling onto global markets. And even that point that you just made is relevant to, I think, Part of the Psiops here, part of the unwinding. You and I for several years have talked about the switch theory, which by the way, I don't know if I showed you. But there was an Elon Musk tweet the other day where it was a light switch that just said fix everything. Oh, no, I didn't see that. It was talking about technology and energy.

And he said, yeah, flip it. But anyway, because he's instrumental to the switch theory from a technology perspective. And I think this, if you're looking at, you know, the one of the one of the one, of the terms we use a lot as public mandate how do you get public mandate for the very energy transition that Donald Trump has been literally signing executive orders about since he first came back and that a lot of the Biden administration era that we talked about during the Biden administration seemed the one thing that they seemed to keep going with Trump was these sort of progressive future energy situations not Green New Deal stuff, but the Chips Act and all that.

Well, I think most of the collective mind could get on board on the back of this with, we probably shouldn't be putting all our oil out into global markets. We probably should not be beholden to whatever is going on in a canal in Iran for what we're paying at the gas pump when we are supposedly have one of the most oil-rich nations in the world. And if that is the case, then we probably need to accelerate down some alternatives to protect ourselves from these things. We should start calling it the gay of Hormuz. I think it's way more appropriate.

I'm on board. You would be. Is that good? Crazy. Well, I mean, hey man. Interesting theory. I will say that. And like I said, I want to wait.

I want to see how this plays out. I have no idea. I have no idea. I'm mostly curious to see how Trump decides to actually unwind us from this, if and when he does. Yeah. Because he hasn't really changed his rhetoric. He's, he's been talking about his off ramps since like the first day. And it's like, oh, we're done.

We're done. We're, you know, whatever. It's going to be over whenever I want to be all these things. That hasn't changed. He could do that for as long as he wants. And that's, I'm just curious to see how long he's literally going to let this go on. And when he steps away, I think the thing I'm most curious about is who's going to step in to actually facilitate the peace in the Middle East because it's probably sovereign alliance wise. It's probably going to be Saudi Arabia.

It's not going to be Israel. And then where does it go from there? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely looking for those things. And it's worth noting, too, that even though a lot of what we're talking about right now is narrative, it's also worth playing with the idea that the timeline is not entirely in Donald Trump. comes control, meaning that if any part of my theory is right, that there's some sort of narrative disarmament going on here, and Chris talks about a lot of the same stuff, then the point of that would be to stop actuals from happening, right? Well, that implies that there are obviously players

on the game board, whether they're Iranian or Israeli or whoever you think they are, that have the ability to fuck some shit up. And it's entirely possible that Trump is not entirely in control of the timeline, right? Like, it could be that he is trying to draw certain things out that we don't know. You know, is he trying to draw something out from Israel? Is he trying to get a few more things accomplished on an actual level? Is this all about energy? Is a big part of what's going on here? Some sort of massive global energy shock situation. I mean, I don't know. These are all just speculative, but that's why I think it's good to look at the macro and I agree with you that you'd think you're going to need some major Eastern Hemisphere players to like really step onto the board. And the timing is interesting because by the way, I didn't even mention. I don't know if you saw this, but I think it was two days ago that Donald Trump initiated a phone call with Putin to talk about Iran. Oh, I didn't see that. So yeah, he initiated a phone call.

phone call. Did he did he say the call was coming? He didn't. Okay. Before, did he post it on true social afterwards? I don't know if he did actually. Oh, well then it wasn't, then it didn't really happen. It might not have.

It wasn't moving the goal. He's always every time. Well, first of all, so this, if you watch my show, you know this. And any time, Zelensky's about to meet with Trump. He gets a phone call ahead of time from Putin. where Trump comes out and posts about it on true social immediately afterwards saying how awesome of a call it was. It tells us how long it was, all the things they talked about, how great a friends they are. He did bring it up, by the way. He didn't post it on true social, but Trump told media in Florida on March 9th.

Trump on Monday told reporters he had a very good call with Putin about Ukraine and the conflict of the Middle East. Different tactics. Something's off. Yeah, there's tremendous hatred between Putin and Zelensky. They can't seem to get it together, but I think it was a positive call on that subject. Putin, Trump added that Putin wants to be helpful with the Iran conflict. I said he could be more helpful by getting the Ukraine-Russia war over with. Did I see a story? And I know I didn't see this, but my buddy texts me about this, that Kareel, Demetrov or whatever,

there's some sort of economic plan that he's putting together that's going to put like 12, trillion dollars like some sort of partnership or agreement did you see that no oh you have the demitre package let me my buddy text me he's always uh he's always flirting with pinuna on there which gives makes me uh oh yeah a little leery of so this is a while ago i guess never mind yeah 14 trillion in projects okay never mind this is old this is february that was like a whole month ago. So either way, that's just another, it's just another marker that like I'm using the, you know, so Trump alleviates energy pressure on, on Russia and India as a result of Iran. And then he supposedly calls Putin to talk about this stuff. And then the timing is also interesting.

This is probably going to, you know, whether or not the Iran story is still going on or not, it's certainly relevant to his impending and still uncanceled meeting with Xi Jinping in Beijing. The Chinese state media said this week that the visit is still on, even amid security concerns. They said originally there was going to be several stops in China and now that is unlikely. But that Xi and Trump are still on good terms according to Chinese state media. So that'll be interesting because Trump is going to if the Iran storyline is still going on like what do you think the subjects are going to be? Yeah. With all that and especially like let's see what the economic fallout is here.

It's man, it is another another thing I was going to say about the stock market and the energy prices and everything. Another way of looking at all of this crap is are these prices and is the stock market. action actually being caused by these things. And if not, then I could completely imagine a scenario where, because of all the midterm bullshit that we're inundated with, what does the media and the globalist apparatus want to do to Donald Trump? They want to strip him of mandate. They want to get the American people to turn on him.

Color revolution, yeah. Yep. And we've talked about this actually. You've actually brought this up for years. Despite our best efforts to try to like talk to the normies and get them to pay attention to the stuff that we pay attention to, the only fucking thing they care of is their financial situation, which I get. But that is the only thing they care about. And instead of looking at this as white hats in control and they're trying to wake the normies up, is it?

Global markets and globalists have all gotten together and said, here's a way that we could spike global energy markets or say that global energy markets are spiking. And then you read Trump's attempts to bring energy prices down a little differently, right? You kind of alluded to this a few minutes ago. If Trump is the one who started this and now Trump is scrambling to manage energy prices, that doesn't make a lot of a sense, does it? Well, again, what if Trump knew they were going to do this with markets and with energy? And he is trying to somehow tell people, this is not me that's causing the energy crunch, but nobody believes him because they're like, dude, aren't you bombing the Middle East right now? Well, that's why I think it makes total sense that he went to Venezuela first to get those economic

oil deals and shit sorted out there. Because could you imagine if we didn't do that? Man, imagine, imagine, I like that idea because he did say the oil is already flowing, like, way faster than makes any sense. So, like, are we going to get some Venezuelan barges coming in? I'm sure we already have. Remember? I mean, like, big bombastic narrative of, like, the Venezuelans are coming to save us from gas. The night before we bombed them, he was standing in Texas at Corpus Christi in front of, of a it was like me and Chris talked about it 80 million or billion barrels of oil or some

shit like it Venezuelan oil like he's standing in front of a boat full of Venezuelan oil the night before he bombed Iran thank god for Maduro and to think just three Venezuelans smuggled all those barrels in that's it on a sailboat with Patrick burned yeah a catamaran oh man I like that and that'll be another sovereign alliance marker in terms of the Siop if it is Venezuelan oil that Trump held a presser. And he's like, good news, guys. We don't need Iranian oil anymore. Well, it's even stupider because the Saop is even stuper because he said repeatedly that we don't need anybody else's oil but our own. Yet it's going to be Venezuelan oil that probably says today. Let's say that's true. Trump could also hold oppressor and talk about

how the oil regime is artificially boosting the prices in the United States despite the supply shock having nothing to do with us, which like that would be kind of interesting. That's exactly what's happening right now. Like the oil that we're consuming and I see some people talking about this. The oil we're consuming right now is like stuff that we bought and paid for two weeks ago or whatever, right? And yet the prices went up immediately when the conflict started. So the whole thing is fabricated, manipulated, just like everything else.

Yeah. That is a trend we've actually talked about for the whole last year, especially in 2025, is the increasing realization even among market experts that markets are fake. Trump can manipulate the market with a tweet. And he has shown that example thousands of times. Thousands of times. He is the market maker. But anyway, we should talk a little bit about about election stuff.

I know very little about this, but I did see that, well, this is one headline I've got. As the Save Act vote looms, the FBI expands 2020 election probe to Arizona. Federal government's post-2020 election reckoning has arrived in Arizona. Warren Peterson, the Arizona Senate president confirmed Monday that federal investigators came knocking and he answered. Last week I received and complied with a federal grand jury subpoena for records relating to the Arizona State Senate's 2020 audit of Maricopa County. The FBI has the records. Any other report is fake news. I'm curious, though, is there any reporting that says it's from the same grand jury that went after Georgia's? Like Fulton County?

Because in the just the news story, they don't, it's hard to understand. understand. Let me, let me pull this up. And I'm just going to read this because it's, uh, it's fairly short. Or do I not have the right subscription to Just the News to get the full story? But it says right here, the FBI is expanding its criminal probe into suspected election irregularities, secretly obtaining a large trunch of voting records from Arizona's largest county with a recent grand jury subpoena, multiple people familiar with the probe told just the news. The sources who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because of the secrecy of the grand jury probe. said FBI agents are receiving terabytes of electronic election data from Maricopa County about a month after the Bureau first disclosed an investigation into election irregularities by raiding a warehouse near Atlanta and seizing ballots from the 2020 election conducted in Fulton County, Georgia's largest metropolis.

So they don't see they're connected, but. Yeah. I'm going to see if I can get the, uh, I mean, they're obviously part of the same overall. I mean, it's the same agency, if that's what you're trying to say. I mean. Well, that's my question, though, is like, is it the same grand jury? Is it literally the same investigation? Is it part of the Rico Grande situation that we've been waiting on? Like, what is it?

Would you use the same grand jury for that? Do you know? I mean, if they're looking into. This is very stupid, but it, like, do you use multiple grand juries if you're in Rico? Or would you be using one? Rico, you'd use one. But if it's separate, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like, they don't really specify. if it's um and depends on the grand jury too because it might be tied to the state you know like is

grand is georgia grand jury looking into this in george fullton county and then is Arizona's grand jury looking into what's happened in Arizona but we said could be a and then there could be a rico grand jury looking into all of it although that would probably come later right well that's what we don't know this could be that this could be the rico case that's what i'm curious about and if it is or even if it's not what i expect to see is another state out we've been talking about this for a couple months now when the first one or yeah a month now when fulton county dropped if they're going to get to the point where they need to i think narratively to delegitimize biden and like for everybody like everybody needs to be be aware that joe biden did not win the election

they need to get one more state on top of this either like a michigan or a pennsylvania or Illinois maybe. I don't think Minnesota's enough electoral college. I remember I used to bring those maps up and show everybody. Team Smooth says I heard it was related to the 2024 election. What I read is it was 2020.

Now, I only read two paragraphs. Yeah, that said 2020. That said the reporting said 2020, I believe. Yeah. This is huge. I mean, we've been waiting on these stories. This is like the premise of the devolution theory is they sold the election, Trump knew they were going to steal it.

At some point, we were going to have to have that story circle back around and get some sort of, you know, closure on that. Which is why 2020 is important. You know, it's like, yeah, 2024 is important too, but we won that narrative. But yeah, it's like, that's the diamonds. And then there was this story that came out yesterday, I believe, related from New York Times. The DNC Democrats sue to find out if Trump will send armed officers. This is meaningless detail. They just do that for drama.

two election sites. In a lawsuit filed Tuesday, the DNC sought to compel the government to say whether it plans to deploy armed federal officers in this year's elections. This is a retarded lawsuit. Like, you're trying to sue to figure out what's going to happen in the future? Like, this would be the easiest thing to defend. This is all about the headline, the narrative. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. They want to, you know, frame it as if it's going. Obviously, this implies that they know. that Trump is going to be doing that. Maybe or they're just maybe they're trying to get out of it. I don't know, but it's like you're literally assuming like, hey, do you plan on committing a crime in the future? I'm going to sue you to compel you to answer that.

That's the dumbest lawsuit of all time outside of the lawsuit I'm currently involved in. Yeah. Which is retarded, but I like the counter signal there and I consider it encouraging. All our thoughts of elections aside, we've talked about this a few times in the the last few months the way the machine is operating they are concerned about oversight of the elections we have all our controversial takes about elections that people like and don't like but mostly don't like at the very least the machine is is worried so i'm not saying that means we overwhelm the fraud blah blah blah but they are worried about actions that trump

could take regarding these elections which you would think that if they had total control over them they would not be yeah i get what you're saying and i feel like i don't agree i'm not even sure if i know why they fight trump on every everything he does because they're doing everything they can to protect the system i think i think they have total control over our election system i think think Trump actually sending some sort of troops in and like interdicting machines much like that draft executive order from December of 2020, I think that is one, that would make it very difficult for them to pull off their shenanigans. So yeah, that, that is like a red line that they're very worried about. If you're Trump, you're like, well, they're worried about this. I'm definitely going

to do it. I bet we don't actually see that happen. Maybe we'll get some, we've been, there's rumors of election executive orders coming. will we get them I have no idea but we'll see we'll see what kind of disclosure anybody calling elections fake will be ridiculed either way even if said orders say the same thing yeah that's so stupid there's a report of

er it was john solomon who reported on this that trump was reading whatever report that Tulsi gabbard put together about election fraud stuff this is like two weeks this was right before the war started it was in Trump's hand he was reading it any day now and then he was going to come out and they're going to publish

it and talk about it and all those things and that was going to be the impetus for some sort of executive action from him and that story is still looming like we need a resolution on just that headline not let alone the 2020 stuff yeah the election stuff is so stupid

I mean I just want to say this about it everybody in Badlands even has their own opinions about how we should handle elections. Some people are like very principled in their belief of our elections are fake or they're illegitimate and there's no reason to vote. There are people who think it's fake and illegitimate and you should vote and then there are people, you know, everything's fine. Just vote because you have to. It's just duty. I don't care what people want to do. I am never going to tell you what you should do.

I'm not going to make voting or not voting mandatory for you. That is your own decision as a sovereign individual which you should make for yourself and if people talking about election fraud and the fact that the uniparty exists and all those things somehow threatens you and your ability to decide for yourself whether you should vote then it's not me that's the problem that's you and the people that are deciding to vote or not vote based on what i'm saying you are not ready for the freedom that trump wants to give you if you let me or anybody else who negatively talks about our elections and they themselves not voting if you let that if that sways you you're not ready to be a sovereign individual in the first place so grow up here and stop freaking out about people who talk about how

fraudulent our elections are the unit party exists and it's an illusion of choice and those people aren't voting they're going to say they're not going to vote leading up to the elections they're not going to cost anybody the midterms don't be retarded yeah i agree with that and stupid argument I just wanted to add that I genuinely think that some people misunderstand the stances of some of these people too. I'm not saying everybody, right? There are people that there are people that just don't believe in it. They don't want to subject themselves to it. And, you know, we do struggle sessions instead.

Now, everything you just said, if you think that somebody's being like a retarded cynical dumer, that's your prerogative. You're allowed to think that. You're allowed to hate that person if you want to, and your feelings can be very hurt by them doing that or choosing to do with their sovereignty what they will, right? You don't have to like it. To try to stop them from speaking about any of these things,

I think is ridiculous. But the point I wanted to make is that I had some talks on the backends at Badland, back end at Badlands the last few days about these sort of things because we talk about these things a lot both on the shows and behind the scenes and obviously you guys know not everybody here agrees I've gone back and forth on this topic myself a million times but one of the things I was thinking of this weekend is you know I didn't vote I have dropped these anecdotes on these shows for years as like you know markers of my former of my long journey of awakening and how it started when I was a liberal. And the fact that one of the things I'm proud of is that I did

not vote in 2012 long before I felt like I was awakened, long before I became a MAGA Trump follower, I didn't vote not because I thought elections were fake, but because, but effectively I did because I had voted for Obama in 2008, and then in 2012, I saw Obama and Mitt Romney, and I had kind of been woken up about Obama, and I knew that Romney was part of the Uniparty. And I just wish people would add the context when they shame people for making whatever sovereign choice they are in a world in which the president has been telling us the elections are fraudulent and, quote, totally rigged the whole time, that when you're talking about that we have to vote at all costs, and it's the most important.

thing in the world, you're talking about it specifically in the context of Donald Trump. Because if you apply that context, this is hypothetical. Maybe you are talking about it because it's Donald Trump. But I would challenge anybody if you were to talk to me in 2012 or now about 2012, about whether or not it was the bad choice or the immoral choice to abstain from subjecting myself to a humiliation ritual, between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, that was the morally correct choice for me. And I would say objectively, because I exercised my sovereignty and did not allow anybody else to do that for me. And it led me on a path toward Donald Trump.

I did vote in 2020. I did vote in 2024. I don't need a sticker for those kinds of things. But I think that people believe, even at Badlands, when somebody like a Chris Paul or a G-Money or whatever has their stances about or Jonathan Drake has their stances about voting that they think those guys are trying to hold the movement Donald Trump represents back when those guys think you could be holding it back by participating in a system that Donald Trump is telling you is fraudulent. So you can feel whichever way you want to feel about it.

But I thought I think it's important to distinguish that to be totally frank, A lot of the people that get really angry at that stance literally do not understand the mindset of people like that. They literally believe that they are being cynical domers when what those men are actually trying to do is cultivate mandate for change. And in their opinion, which doesn't have to be your opinion, doing the thing that is the same is not going to result in the mandate cultivation. to change the thing. It is the simplest principled argument you could make. And if you need any further evidence of that, watch an argument between one of those guys

and somebody calling them a doomer because the people calling them a doomer have to jump through seven layers of mental gymnastics to explain themselves when all those guys have to do is say, I believe Donald Trump. Donald Trump says this is rigged and I'm not going to subject myself to that. Yeah, it's so stupid.

You're not going to vote your way to a fix. I see some people in chat. Most people are like, these are some of the arguments. I just want to say, because I see this argument coming. We talked about it on Saturday show last week. And I saw the people in the chat. They're like, you know, you have to vote. You have a choice.

You have to vote. No, you literally do have a choice. That's up to you. And one side of that argument is trying to convince you to, no matter what you have to vote. They're the ones that are convinced you to protect the system. The other people are trying to opt out. That's their choice to make. That's their choice to make.

And I'm not going to be swayed one way or the other. It'll be up to me. I'm probably not going to tell people whether I do it or not. You'll see by the sticker. It's nobody's business. It used to be in the way. Right. And it's funny too.

Like, I wonder, and this is probably a conversation Chris should be in on because he's like, he's, he's got the, he's, he's mentally fought this argument with himself and then actually with other people more times than anybody he's like sick of the conversation because we've had it so many times this is literally every election cycle for the past however many years he's been in the same position same points same talking points correct every time by the way correct every time frankly sick of it but it's it's just retarded like you cannot vote your way out of of these situations you just you literally cannot but yeah i'm i'm not let's not dwell on that Go ahead. If you have a point.

I just not triggered. But the Renata Ford in the chat has said this a million times. You don't have to vote, but then your opinion doesn't matter. And the reason I want to... What she said earlier? Hold on. She said earlier that veterans died for you to vote. No, they fucking didn't. That's the dumbest thing of her. No offense.

It is so stupid. And this is neocon bullshit. And I remember this as a 2012 liberal. So I remember conservatives who voted for the Bush regime telling me that my opinion didn't matter because I abstained in 2012. And I remember liberals telling me the same thing. So are both of them right? Did everybody's

opinion in 2012 matter who voted for Mitt Romney because they were wrong by accident, but they had the right morals? And everybody who voted for Obama, their opinions didn't matter. Like, how does this work? All the Obama's opinion, matter. So all the Biden voters, their opinions matter, right? Their opinions matter more than Chris Paul or G money. Go subscribe to their fucking podcasts and listen because the reason it gets me so triggered is because you're full of shit. It's not true and you don't fucking believe it. Because if you believe the pathway and the marker for whose opinions matter, you would be listening, you would be firing up Kamala Harris podcast right now. Because whatever the real numbers are,

tens of millions of people in this country are voting for who you in chat consider to be the worst people in the world who are destroying our country. And you think their opinions matter and that the people who don't want to participate in their system, that their opinions don't matter. And the last point I put on this is that, again, the strength. strategy because there is one between some of the people who choose not to vote, which isn't me, by the way. I just am not an idiot. So I understand why people make the choices they do because I actually listen to them when they explain themselves instead of struggle sessioning them. But one of the reasons that they make the choice they do is because they think that if an election is stolen that you participated in, you have lost the ability to. to call it fake. And you may not agree with that. I'm not saying that that's the correct opinion.

But if you tell everybody to go out there and vote in the midterms and then we get the blue wave that they're already conjuring into the ether, what does that mean? And did the people who didn't vote, is it their fault? I mean, there's a lot of nuance to these things. But it's just funny because I've said even in private chats, separate from the voting situation, separate from the voting conversation, with the Iran conversation. I have never felt more like a former liberal in the truth community than I do right now.

And being told your opinion doesn't matter if you're not cheering on bomb dropping in the Middle East or voting in elections is such an absurd misread of what the founding of this country was and what sovereignty even means that more people need to listen to John Drake's No Treason Podcasts on Sunday nights leading into the narrative. And maybe a lot of those people who say stuff like that, turns out haven't read anything the Founding Fathers have wrote. Because a lot of these guys had very similar opinions. It's funny because I agree with you that I've never not voted. And I'm probably going to vote again. Don't tell Chris Paul.

But I understand that they're vague. And I do not, like the people that are saying they're not going to vote. like that is a much more principled thing in my opinion than voting to perpetuate the system. It's so stupid. If you don't vote, you don't complain. Retarded. We're not a four. Like I don't even know why you watch the show.

Like that is the opposite of everything Trump is trying to teach you and teach everybody. And the people saying like, oh, Trump, you know, he just really wants to pass the Save America. No. Does he really, though? Do you really think he wants to do that? Because I'm pretty sure you just rug pulled that shit. It's also whatever. Let's move on for this.

We're going to have this argument a bazillion more times leading up to the midterms. Which is fine. The problem is that people, the problem is that people are trying to stop the conversations from happening, which is not something we're going to do. No. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to stop it right now because I want to go to bed. But I will never not stop. I got a text today from somebody within, like a badlander who got mad at something other badlander said.

it just reminded me of the reason badlands exist, what are, you know, we believe in the highly frictional stuff. There's nothing off limits. This is about open debate and discussion and everything. We will never tell somebody what they can and cannot say. We will never bully somebody into not saying something just because we don't like what they say. There are so many things that other people on badlands say that I disagree with and don't like,

but I've never once said they aren't allowed to say it on badlands. And that's going to continue. That's going to continue on our shows. That's going to continue in our chats and everywhere. As long as it's good faith, that's the one thing. Like if you come in and troll and hate and just be a dumbass, we're not going to put up with that shit. But we are for anybody who wants an earnest, honest, open debate about anything,

whether you agree with us or not. That's what it's all about. The friction is how you get the progress, in my opinion. And we're going to keep pushing for that. And if you can't take it, then just get out. And again, the can't take it doesn't mean you don't. agree with us it's the exact opposite if you can't take the fact that you you don't agree with people here that's what it is it's not that's what happens

the people who can't take it are the ones who it's it's such a weird it's such a weird thing because it's it's not just the the disagreement they're not okay with that but it's like it's stop talking about it stop talking about our disagreement yeah it's so weird Chris Paul has been subjected to more struggle sessions by people at Badlands Media and who follow and support Badlands Media than anybody outside of Badlands Media, not because they disagree with Chris Paul, but because they do not think he should be allowed to say the things that he says.

And, you know, it's absurd. And I genuinely, I say I'm not surprised by many things in the Info War, but it shocks me. It absolutely shocks me that people have that view. you know when it should be just if you think it's a ridiculous stance then it shouldn't even bother you and i guess i'd make another argument that if you think that somebody like that has a very dangerous stance and that they're going to convince everybody in the movement to adopt their stance then the movement's pretty stupid in your opinion right like maybe they don't deserve all that

freedom if uh if if g money is going to convince everybody that uh voting is gay. Then it's like, okay, well, I guess the plan is over then. G money ruined it. Ah, it was going so good until he came around. That guy, he's just like living it up with his son and us. I was trying to, now that I have a son, I was like, man, that's the dream. Imagine G. That's the dream. That's the dream. That's like, that's the dad you want and that's the son you want. yeah but then you think about that again you're like wait wait I went wrong somewhere yeah yeah I don't want to know yeah how all the logistics work let's let's just move on we we should read uh rants and get out of here I was up

so early this morning all the rants will withdraw yeah I'm just good people actually like this you know people in Nashville I'm sure it's always a It's always a good reminder. By the way, Badlandsmedia. Dot TV slash events for your tickets for Nashville. Tomorrow, I forgot to mention. Tomorrow, 2 p.m. Eastern will be the first exclusive live stream for Gart Nashville ticket holders.

That's virtual or in person. Virtual, I think, are five bucks off right now for a limited time. If you want to grab those, the early bird special, I don't know if I'll make it onto that stream, but there'll be a stream every week leading up to any way. That is tomorrow, 2 p.m. So you'll get an email with the last. link about an hour before that stream. A bunch of bad landers will be on that.

You got a smaller chat in there, more exclusive. And one of the funnest things about the Garts is the telegram chats that start bumping. So that'll be fun. But anyway, I was just going to say that one of the really great things that we always say about the Garts is actually about this kind of a subject. These contentious topics obviously come up at Garts. Sometimes things get heated. Sometimes they don't. But either way, it's a great reminder for.

me anyway of like the real temperature of the audience because I even know that most of the people in chat they don't even necessarily have to agree with us but they like the conversation there's always like two people that just freak out the whole time and when you're at a guard you realize that very very few people if any go to something like that because they want their feelings to be protected like the people who seek out gatherings like that when they say like-minded patriots it doesn't mean patriots who agree with them. It's like, this is a safe place where I can engage in unsafe conversations. And that's the best part about it. Yeah. And so like people like, we're not afford you. Maybe you have in the past. And but then we meet you and it turns out you're really

sweet lady and I get to tell you you you're wrong to your face. And it's just much more enjoyable for everybody involved. Also, we're not going to rug pull you by like saying we have a big guest and that guest not show up. It's just whoever's on your, whoever's on our, website as the speakers, it's all bad landers. It's who it is. It's always will be. Rugged by some of them.

Yeah, I think shipwreck agreed to come. And then her logistics changed, but she said she'll be dead wood, hopefully. So, yeah, we got a big crew this time. This might be the biggest, like, where almost everybody's coming. It's going to be a good time.

So we'll all be on half of one panel. Yeah. And something like that. Now, what all the real panel discussions happen at the bar? That's true. Afterwards. I expect that Nashville should have like a good drink scene.

I think so too. But we're not like, it's not like fully downtown. It's on a college campus, I think. Nice. Gee, you'll be in his glory. In his element, for sure. All right. Okay, read the boost.

I'm going to find this now. Boots, we got 1027.js, 20 bucks. Hello, guys. Hey, Joe, my fellow, North Carolina. the coden thank you 1027 j s said looking forward to tonight's DPI that was last week i think we got that all right we got some rants gin stock 123 10 bucks been watching DPH since the beginning i'm always grateful tuning in from fairbanks alaska oh man it's a long ways to be tuned in from thank you internet works the same they've got it just a series of tubes that's where it's still

a series of tubes i think doesn't work the same though because I know Brad like lost everything internet related for a period. You basically get one of those tin cans with a string and you go, get me rumble. And then like 20 minutes later, a squirrel gets the faint echoes of what you might have said. And a squirrel whisperer has to interpret what the squirrel thinks you meant. A squirrel decoder. I love that.

I love that. Yeah. Then they tell you. Then they tell you about a podcast that somebody on the other end of the line is watching, translating it to a second squirrel. I have been wondering, like, at what point, because you know, it's coming. Eventually, there's going to be decoders for the decoders. You know, like... I proposed that we started the show about that.

Decoding the decoders? Maybe we should. We could put Alpha and Josh on a five-minute delay. And then we just try to decode us, live-streaming them. Oh, that would be so funny. decode their decodes in real time. Like, see what, where Josh went wrong here. No, it's not bad. It's trying to, it's trying to like, he didn't actually mean this.

What he really meant was, that's what a decode is. That's true. It's not what the thing actually said. It's what, it's the comms that they're leaving for us and what we think it means. And then we, dude, the content farming here, we could have decoders decoding our show, decoding their show. like could you mad like we just keep going we should totally do this one time like inception decoding yeah

like everybody's just on like a five minutes delay and just decoding everything the other show says and one person will earnestly watch that show and be like this is amazing this is genius this is brilliant we might actually figure everything out that way Tamara flat I'm serious we're doing this one week

even if it's just for a joke we're doing it we should have somebody right drops No, I think the best way to do it is like we tell Alpha and Josh that we're doing it and then it's just the decode train. Yeah. It'd be so much fun. Decode centipede, human decode centipede. Yeah.

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Oh, gosh, Alfa's actually in the chat. That's so funny. That's because he heard RD codes. Edgar Friendly says, President Trump is John Spartan from Demolition Man and I haven't seen demolition man since I was a kid You also who did you equate Trump to being earlier? Captain Kirk. Yeah, but what about Batman then? Yeah, he can be both

Can he though? Is that what by camera means? You are both Donald Trump. I mean you are both James T. Kirk and Bruce Wayne at the same time Gotcha. Okay, cool. Nailed it. And then had some explainers there of how they're the same. I'll have to look at that sent an AI thing a little too long to read team smooth my tip for the friction jar nice thank you love me some friction mrs real freedom fighter thank you great show i just listen and you send rumbaran thank you it doesn't it's not mrs real it's ria missing a letter yeah i think i think she's coming to guard by the way boom digity made a comment in the chat which

I love. Good to see, boom. I vote. I do not jab, and I'm not mad at anyone who votes or does not vote. People got to understand saying that everyone must vote is fascist. Choices a must. People forcing to turn me back into a liberal. We can start calling everybody fascists who's like, you have to do this.

I think that's how we defeat them. That's my point is like, no, the sovereign person does not have to do anything. Being a stubborn asshole. Means being sovereign. Stop telling me what I have to do. I might do the thing you want me to do, but I will do so because I have the choice to do so, not because you say I have to.

Fuck that. And again, like if you go too far down that rabbit hole, which is a lot of the stuff Jonathan Drake talks about on his podcast, and that many of the founders talked about before and after the codification of the Constitution, if you are really, really literal about the election thing, which is the bigger conversation that Chris has been talking about for years that we need to get to in the future, you are de facto kind of taking on that not just fascist mentality,

but you're starting to sort of potify the belief that our rights come from the state. Which is not where they come from. They don't even come from the Constitution, actually. They come from God, and they are sovereign, and they are innate. But, you know, a lot of people have forgotten that. Final demand, Beebe has inspired me to vote. I will take my ballot into the booth and draw a huge, vainy penis on my ballot with a Sharpie and put that in the ballot box.

This is a good idea. We should look at it. We should do a write-in penis campaign. Oh my god, that's the fifth one in a row. Did you imagine CNN reporter on that? Somehow, like a baby penis won the election in Cobb County. Now, I know you've seen a lot of them in your day, Jan. Can you describe it to us?

What did it look like? About a half chub, John. There's nothing I can't handle. Okay. far stop I heard the baseball team ran train on you is that from a movie no I'm just making it up this is how I entertain myself I do love we should we should do the outro of of the the penises from whatever the movie is I think I think

subconsciously I was thinking of those segments from Family Guy with the two reporters who hate each other oh yeah here they get the guy and the girl he's probably had one like that I've bet somebody like will find I'm sure what's the movie um you're a real whore I think he has super bad is it super bad that what's the movie with the where he when I was growing up I could sell you to draw dicks yeah yeah that was super bad Jonah Hill oh so funny that's such a great movie all right the Alpha Warrior show in case you're watching jb us has liberty who did it yep another one of

our fun family disagreements and said make it come full circle to where it comes back to me and Josh and we call ourselves out as being wrong in the original decode i'm on board with that see that's the thing we start with one their decodes of themselves that's what's funny we we start with one story okay and you know five minutes on a delay is two people decoding alpha and josh decoding whatever story and then five minutes delay another group another group and then once they're done decoding their story, they just go to the final group. And so it's a circle of decoding, people trying to figure out whatever they're saying, dude, this is, this is brilliant. Weekend update. Oh, we should do this as an outro. I've got a two-minute outro we can play. Well, I was just going to

look up the pictures of Dix's. This must have been in my head. That is so funny. You found it? Okay, we'll do your outro. Yeah, it's Dan. I've done mine before. all right well thanks everybody for tuning in hit that thumbs up i will be back on tomorrow on the daily harold 1 p.m eastern i'll be back to that show so i actually have to catch up on whatever's happening in the world try to do that tomorrow but it should be a fun one probably engage with you guys in the chat mostly so make sure you tune into that and i don't know what you're getting you guys have played lots of dick clips we do we tend to do that around here yeah mrs bright's watch i noticed didn't announce this, but she just started doing it, just happens organically. She seems to be in her

like 11th rewatch of the office. Nice. Like the first couple days I don't usually pick up on the trend. I'm like, oh, the office is on. And then I kind of walk back through the kitchen. And I'm like, huh, that's funny. The office is on. Must be doing a marathon today. And then a couple days later, I'm like, wait a second. She's intentionally watching this again. It's not a bad thing. That's like you are a sane individual when you can just keep that on in the background. Like that is a normal, normal thing. You should start to worry once she starts having every like episode memorized when you can start like predicting things as they're coming.

She probably does. She's seen that show many times. Yeah, I'm there. I just rather do that than friends. She used to watch friends a lot and she kind of graduated beyond that and she's into the office. I can't get into any show like like the office. where I watch them repeat on repeat there are some shows like I can come back to you know after a year or so and and watch like a little bit of it but the office when it got

taken off of Netflix or whatever it's the longest I went without watching it said didn't have Peacock but now I have Peacock yeah yeah but anyway all right well let's watch your outro video let everybody I'm station manager Dan Aykroyd during the past few weeks in Los Angeles actor Lee Marvin and his former live-in companion Michelle Triola Marvin have been in court to settle her claim that he owes her half his income from the six years they live together. That is the subject of tonight's point to counterpoint. Jane will take the pro-Michelle Marvin point. Will I take the anti-Michel Triola counterpoint? Dan, times change and so does the nature of relationships. People are reluctant to get married

these days and looking at divorce statistics, who can blame them? But the lack of a piece of paper does not necessarily mean the lack of a total commitment. A woman in this modern day relationship may well give up all her own personal pursuits, as Michelle Marvin claims she did, to give her full support to her man's career. And Michelle Marvin is just asking that the courts recognize that reality.

Dan, there's an old saying. Behind every successful man, there's a woman, a loving, giving, caring woman. But you wouldn't know about that, Dan, because there's no old saying about what's behind a miserable failure. Jane, you ignorant slut. Bagged out, dried up, slunk meat like you and Michelle Triola and know the rules.

If you want a contract, sign on the dotted line. Oh, but let's all shed a tear for poor Michelle Triola. There was only testimony that she had sexual intercourse over 40 times with another man while living with actor Lee Marvin. But I suppose that sort of fashionable promiscuity means nothing to someone like you, Jane, who hops from bed to bed with the frequency of a cheap ham radio. But hell hath no fury like a woman scorned, and Michelle Triola like a screeching, squealing, rapacious swamp sow, was after actor Lee Marvin's last $3 million. $3 million. I guess what you and Michelle are saying is that when you're on your backs, the meter is running.

Well, please spare us, gals, and tell us the rates at the top. Then we can choose which two-bit tarts and bargain baseman sluts to shack up with.