Badlands Media - Quite Frankly Ep. 42: Millennials, Manufactured Crises, and the Strange Stories That Shape Our Time

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Frankie Val hosts another wide ranging episode of Quite Frankly, joined by Matt and Jay for a lively conversation that jumps from absurd headlines to serious cultural reflection. The crew riffs on everything from bizarre science stories and health trends to testosterone, nicotine, and the strange world of modern consumer products. The heart of the episode explores a growing cultural idea that millennials have become numb to crisis after living through nonstop historic events. From Y2K and Columbine to 9/11, the financial crash, and COVID, Frankie walks through the timeline that shaped a generation and asks whether this constant upheaval has fundamentally changed how people react to world events today. The discussion also touches on celebrity culture, the fall of Hollywood influence, and a deeper look at the legacy of Michael Jackson, questioning whether public narratives about powerful figures are always what they seem. Mixing humor, nostalgia, and thoughtful analysis, this episode delivers the signature Quite Frankly blend of sharp commentary, unexpected tangents, and late night conversation that keeps listeners thinking long after the show ends.

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I'm here not to offer my opinions. I'm here to answer specific questions to the best of my ability. Tell us a little bit about the taste of human flesh. I'm done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. Hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. Let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up. Those puny little ants outnumber us 100 to 1.

And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life. It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line. That's why we're going back. Does anybody else want to stay? note they said stop smoking yeah I rolled it and smoked a note d d d d d d d b b b b b b b b b b it's a nice rainy night in marchuary welcome it's march 5th we are 10 days away from the ides we get in there

march 5th a thursday night it's a badlands night our buddies are from bad lands are going to be joining us in the audience. I hope you all have a good time. Hello everybody on quite frankly. Dot TV, pill.net, YouTube, Rumble, D-Live, X, Twitter. It's a good time. And of course, Twitch, you can't say,

you can't say nothing about Twitter. I was hanging out with people on Twitch last night after the show. Yeah, like three or four people. I went home. I did everything I needed to do. I had about an hour left before I knew my battery was going to run out in my body, my body battery, not my, phone. I was like, you know, I got a good

hours worth of sharp cognitive function left. I'm going to play some call of duty. I did pretty good for a couple of rounds and then I said, nope, time to go. Started just flat tires. You know how that feels, Matt?

Yeah, like every day. But you know, especially with call of duty, you're out of roll and then all of a sudden you hit a wall and you know that you're not going to get any better. It's only going to get worse from there. That never happened to me Well not well I guess I didn't know you in your prime

Right I didn't know no No no No but I was one of the best in the world I know that's what I'm saying I didn't know you back then But still you you would go on good runs when we were all playing Like on World War II we got to do the other one there too

And um Because it's all so funny when when a round doesn't go math's way I love here and Matt get mad Because that's the way I am too I started getting really pissed off. Do you have any clips? Clips? I won't got to make clips.

I would like to hear some clips. That's why, you know, I try very hard to get my friends together with me on a, even if PlayStation in person, whatever the hell it is, I know that funny things happen when I get them in the same room. Video game anger is a different kind of anger. It's very bad. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a very bad thing. Unleashed. And I, sometimes I tell myself, well, you know, I'm going to use this as a, as a moment to train my emotional, my control centers. Good luck. And it doesn't happen. I actually, I walk away, I walk away cursing a person that I've never seen before. More hate.

I know. I don't know. It's like, you know, and I feel like shit afterwards. I'm like, I just wished that, I don't know, some person choked on a chicken bone. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I hope he, like, chill. And that's not right.

That's not good. No, no. It's not good. Anyway. Anyway, we'll do more of that because it's funny, at least when it's broadcast, it's funny. And everybody knows that it's just weird. Anyway, well, that's what we're doing tonight. We are saying weird things tonight.

Matt's here for a little while. Jay is here. Welcome to Thursday night. And if you are watching, don't lurk. No matter who you watch out there, if you like them, do not lurk. Okay. Say something in the chat room. Leave a comment.

If this is after the fact, hit the like button, share it. hype it whatever the hell it is just love it down with clicks those clicks are just you know moments in time they pass it's like a snap of the finger just just click all over the place thank you so much for that you'll save the show um also real quick before we get into this remember tonight we're giving away we're drawing a name i have 150 entries already and um and and you know the luck is on your side it there's a lot of people who have only thrown in one one Superchat over the course of a week and they have one we've got four silver coins four silver quarters we've got three goldbacks that you're going to win we've got

this wonderful portrait from Maliardi of me I told you Laura's favorite portrait of me and then also we're going to give away one of Jane Barlow's books to the grand prize winner as well she's going to write it and Jay yes anything you want to throw in for for the winner tonight the super chat raffle winner You know, I think we will. What do you do? I think we'll do a one free month membership at HRP, the Health Reclamation Project. There you go.

One free month. One free month with Jay. Come on in. And all you got to do is throw in a super chat on YouTube, Rumble, quite frankly, superchat.com or the gold pills. And actually, no Twitch, too. I've been counting Twitch as well. So it's all on the table. All right, guys.

So, Matt, I thought you'd find this funny. Take a look of this. just right off the bat. I thought this was hilarious. This guy, apparently there is an Italian semi-pro wrestler who enters into the ring dressed like a pizza chef, and his finishing move,

his finishing move is destroying somebody with almost like a high-ducken kind of pizza dough attack. Take a look at this. I think this is awesome. He's spinning the dough. Wow. Watch. Boom.

You know, I am 100%. This would be my guy. He should partner up with Stephen Flo. Have you ever seen Stephen Flo? No. He's a wrestler. He dresses in Gungitartar, and he comes out to the song, Stephen Flo. Stephen Flo.

Would you, wait, wait, would you consider Pearl Jam Grunge? Hell yeah. The first album? Yeah. Yeah. Their first and some of the second album? Yeah. Then they went soft.

He was, Matt was very, very into, when we first started really hanging out with Matt, he was singing Pearl Jam, so he would actually get Anthony to, like, play some, play the music, and he would, he would sing. He would also send us voice notes of him practicing his Eddie Vedder voice. And for a little while there, he had Anthony give him basic, bass guitar lessons. I have footage of Matt. Oh. I have footage of Matt, you know, playing a basic bass line in a, in a jazz.

jam session with Mike and Anthony. How's your Eddie Vedder now, Matt? You can do it. Oh, he's just, yeah. It's still good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That album was massive.

Ten? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, just, it was everywhere. That was a great time in music, too. There's a lot of good bands that came out at that time period. Yeah, that's a great album.

Yeah. I'll tell you one thing. I'm getting, I'm getting to the point where I don't want to be any older. You know, I'm going to get, where, But there was a long time where I was just like, man, if I was just five years older, I, we would have been able to, I would have been able to experience a lot of awesome things just around this area. Like just the acts that were coming into all of the local clubs and theaters around here. Crazy stuff.

Do you know if Pearl Jam ever played the Capitol Theater? No, no. They were probably always too big. Hold on. Pearl. They didn't. They didn't? No.

I was thinking like maybe in, like maybe just like before. four ten or before it really hit but Eddie I think Eddie Vedder might have oh sure himself yeah maybe uh lead better's uh a Pearl Jam tribute band are performing at Garcia's on March 21st all of last year he's all sing yellow leadbetter better better than this singer Earl Jam ever at the Capitol Theater let me see no no no no but but you know you'd be you'd be surprised how many people played at Willow Street when that was still around. Down on Boston Post Road where there's all like models and department stores now.

Typo, played in Portchester. Typo Negative played at Willow Street. But then again, your typo negative is a Brooklyn band. So it wasn't really that much of a stretch. But, you know, there's a lot of like Aerosmith played down where like Coles shopping center is. There was a venue there. Aerosmith was there. Deasniz.

and Twisted Sisters spent a lot of time around this area when they were getting big in the Tri-State area. That's how they really launched themselves. I watched a, I watched a documentary on Twiss's sister. I was surprised at all the, all the places that I recognized. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. So, you know, I missed a lot of that stuff. Yeah. But it's all right. It's all right. It's all gone now. It is. And that's part of what I wanted to bring up with you guys. And also everybody at home, It's going to go into the main theme of at least the first half because I know we have mixed stuff in the second half and Matt's leaving around 830 But but but the title of the show tonight's is why millennials just can't be shocked anymore And and it's a part and we're going to get to that in just a little bit it's a part of this like kind of millennial

Numnus meme yeah okay But there's this other thing that's going around And we'll we'll get to this in just a second I have some other stuff to throw out to you about about just really deeper commentary on nostalgia and whether it really is all just nostalgia of what people are sinking themselves into a little bit more and whether or not is a little bit more of grief, timeline, like grieving the death of a timeline,

not necessarily nostalgic for a time when you were younger, but more so just a civilizational timeline, and the setting of where our, of where our, you know, our lives are. And, you know, what we're leaving to future generations and, you know, how disposable it all is now. So I wanted to talk about that in a little bit. Okay. So, but first up front, I thought this was hilarious.

Now, I know what they meant, but this headline, this headline is fantastic. Women actually lose part of their brain during pregnancy, but there's, but there's a bright side. Geez. Now, I understand it has, you know, had a little something to do

with like brain matter or something like that. And I remember when Lauren was, um, was, uh, pregnant with Aurora. She was talking about pregnancy brain or anything like that.

And, um, but I, the New York Post wins the headline war again. Wow. Is she crazy or is her gray matter just being compressed? Neuroscientists in Spain have found a connection between pregnancy hormones and fluctuating gray matter in the brain, which could help illuminate more about the postpartum period and attachments between mothers and newborns.

A study done in association with B-mother project found that pregnancy likely leads to a temporary dip in gray matter. Temporary being the operative word there. Temporary. Yeah. It comes back. Your brain comes back. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned that to me earlier tonight.

I was like, I wonder, you know, obviously they're looking for a sensational headlines. Yes, of course. That's why I thought it was funny. Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous, you know, like, almost as if you were thinking like, geez, if I wanted to put a headline out there to dissuade women from getting pregnant, I would say, well, you know, the pregnancy causes brain damage, don't you? You know, like, that's kind of. Don't, don't, you know, listen.

No, I know. Don't let that get around. No, no, no. There's already so many people who are like, I'm going childless because. But I looked up a couple of papers just because I wanted to, I wanted to understand where they were coming from. And yeah, it's similar to something like synaptic pruning during adolescence or excess neural connections are eliminated to streamline efficiency. Pregancy appears to optimize brain architecture for the maternal role. This pruning may enhance neural efficiency, improve cognition, facilitate behaviors like bonding with the infant, heightened empathy, and response to a baby's needs.

So these are not degradation. It's more like a brain remodeling because of the pregnancy. So there's like scientific rationale behind it, but obviously the way they frame it, you're talking about. Well, that's why. You think it was like, well, women just get dumber when they get pregnant, you know. Well, we get dumber when we have boners. Oh, that's true. You know, our brains get rewired a couple of times a day.

It's a different phase of the pregnancy. It's ridiculous. Anyway. So that's just one little thing I wanted to throw out. out there. I thought it was a funny. It's one of the first things I saw this morning. Matt, take a listen to this. Actually, Jay, you'll think this is interesting too. Dutch, you okay? Dutch science, don't die here, please. Dutch scientists, oh, hold on a second. It's got a little warm in here for some reason. You feel it's warm? Yeah. It is warm, putting it on

medium. Air conditioner in March. It's humid. Yeah, it is. Dutch scientists, They say now that your headphones could make you gay. Wow. Which brand specifically? Any color? We're going to get into that. They say, let's see here. A lab in Netherlands performed tests on numerous headphones and found them to be possessing

endocrine disrupting chemicals, which mimic hormones that could cause neurodevelopmental problems and the feminization of males. It's Alex Jones. I know. There's atrazine in the, in the... I don't like them putting chemicals. in the airphones to make fucking people gay. Leading products from Bose,

Panasonic, Samsung, and some Senheiser. All right. Oh, I got JBLs. Uh, yeah, what are these? AKG, I think.

Yeah, they are AKJ. Let me see if it's on it. Because I have these on a lot, you know, at least 12 hours a week. And I, I'm not getting,

I don't feel like I'm getting gayer. It's probably the wireless ones I would imagine. Yeah, okay. Yeah, notable on the list, headphones possessing dangerous levels of these chemicals are gaming headphones from Razor. Okay. Let me see.

They're being pulled off the shelves at the time right now. Daily use, especially during exercise, when heat and sweat are present, accelerate the migration directly to the skin. So now it is, they're not talking about the radioactive issues. Like you and I, we were talking about, I don't know, Matt, if you've ever had them, but I had them for a little while and they're actually pretty convenient at nighttime when I'm just, you know, getting into bed, Lauren sleeping. I just want to scroll through a couple extra things or listen to an old episode of coast to coast or something.

I'll just put like the right earbud in and just listen to that for a little bit and just roll over, listen to that and take it out and throw it on the dresser or something like that. And then people started telling me that the earbuds in particular, the wireless ones, are very high in radiation or they emit a lot more of that disrupt. that disruptive frequency than the wired ones were. And I said, you know, that's interesting because I, sometimes I feel like I'm starting to get nauseous. Bluetooth makes me nauseous. You're turning gay. That's the first stage.

It's first stage. I mean, gayness. That's what I thought. Get that thing out of my ear. I'm not gay. I feel bad. It was my earphones. Like I get a note from my doctor.

Likely excuse. It was my blood pressure medicine. I got it readjusted. Everything's fine now. It was just a phase. I am not gay. Santee Claus. My brother's over there.

What's that mean? I don't know nothing. He's just there. I'm not gay. So, you're right. From the study. You're right? Yeah, just smokers cough.

I'll be dead soon. don't say that bro Jesus is listening I see from the study Bizin full A so BPA easy to enter your body through your skin when you wear headphones for long or when you sweat while having them on even small quantities can weaken your immune system

cause fertility issues and allergic re-reashes Rashes Rashes both now I'm looking at these here take now let me see here the highest risk is hyper X cloud three gaming headset headset and then razor cracking v3 oh boy the high risk is OTL technologies super Mario Bose quiet comfort Logitech G733 light speed Oceana Alken Senheiser yellow I feel like these are like the the terrorist threat levels in the night in in 2002 yeah really buddy phone jvc kodak wireless life b list lisciana maxel uh oricuma uh shenzhen

wow sony litware sony link buds tag okay so i don't see any AKG over here and the green list is okay geez are you all right action q o t l Pokemon yeah all the green ones are fine. These are recommended. Okay. I still don't see what I'm using over there, but JBL, JBL seems to be in there. So that's good. In the not gay one? You're in the not gay one. So your testosterone's going to be fine. Yeah, it's going to fucking be off the

fucking charts soon enough. Off the charts. When I start injecting myself with mad test two shots a week. He wants to, he feels like the best way to get himself just short time, limited run to get

himself just back on track is to to sauce up yeah i might even do do trend oh boy no we're doing we're just too old for this stuff tell him you're just replacing stuff you already lost jfk jfk jr k jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr jr does it well he's 70 something years old our testosterone's lower than our father's testosterone was at our age they're level are lower than their fathers, was it? So how is it bad? If you're just replacing what is lost, I'm not doing, I'm not going to do bodybuilder shit.

So you're saying that your testosterone is low? I mean, if it's, look at all this shit. Look, they have headphones that make you gay. You think fucking all this other shit ain't low on your testosterone. But if there's, but it's one thing to say, hey, listen, I took a blood test and, you know, I could, I could use a little bit of a boost here. What would you say, Jay, I, we, we, might have mentioned this sometime in the past. What do you think about TRT from a standpoint of,

you know, I know you said that there's a lot of dietary things that you would do to naturally revitalize yourself, but still, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things you can do at first that are probably safer. Not that all TRT is unsafe, but I think it depends on the type, the quality, the length of time you're going to use it. And like you said, like your blood levels, you want to have them check because that may not be the problem. problem. If you're, if you're RFK, if you're RFK Jr., though, if you're RFK Jr., though, it's somebody his age, that seems like it would be. Yeah, and he also has a history of other drug use, which could have, you know, could have impaired his testosterone, testosterone production.

Like, I know guys that did even just one cycle of steroids when they were younger, like in their 20s, and that's completely altered their physiology in their 30s and 40s. And so they have to do certain things because their body just isn't able to produce anymore, which is, which is wild when you think about like just one cycle. They're doing a lot. They're doing a lot. He just said, he said one cycle. It's taking too long.

I used to be fucking ripped and jacked and I tell you, one of the biggest things, man, one of the biggest things is like if you're, if you've got good testosterone, but you have high insulin levels, that testosterone is being converted into estrogen. So the one of the first things I do with anybody who's worried about that is I have, I have insulin. No, no, no, no. Matt, calm down. You need to get your insulin check.

No, Jay, what drugs do I got to take? All right, email me. I'll get you a list. Give me the list of drugs. No, you got to check your insulin levels. Because you've got high insulin, all that testosterone and you're pumping into your body

could be converted to estrogen, which actually could backfire. Gives you tits. Yeah, so you got to know. You got to know your insulin levels. It's important. But at least you'll have a nice pair of tits to play with it.

It'll be nice. You know, you're laying in bed. You just start playing. my insulin levels I have high test you start going to the beach you're right you start going to the beach

and you become so self-conscious about it you just you just casually tell everybody yeah you know I have high testosterone by my insulin's high so that's you just tell everyone you go to the bar you go to the sand bar over there

I'll have a daquery I don't want to get blood drawn I'll just risk it Well, there's that too. Steak and eggs. That's what I did before, but it takes too long. And sunshine. It takes too long.

Sun your balls, Matt. That'll help. Oh, let me tell you something about this, because, you know, we had talked about, you know, tanning and how it actually could be a very useful thing in the wintertime if you live in places like the Northeast to have a membership at a tanning salon or to have something. that you can do at home, a red light mirror or something like that, just to be able to keep that stimulation that you lose when the summer sun goes away and we just kind of cloister ourselves inside and it just be, you know, whatever. Even when you go outside, you're all bundled up.

You just said, anyway, I just for the hell of it, I looked around just to see if there's any tanning salons around here, what they cost because I just started getting curious. Let me tell you something. you have to travel a long way to find a tanning salon that actually still has UVA, UVB beds or whatever. What are they all? Really? Dude. I'm sprayed now, right?

I wanted to, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, that's not giving you any of the. No, seriously. I don't know if there were something legislatively, like some legislative act. Something's been banned in New York or something like that. But I'm telling you all, I want to go see if there was a membership I can find for me.

me and Lauren or something of our tanning salon around here, but I was shocked when I realized that there's barely any and everything is spray tanning. And they advertise it by saying that you're getting sprayed down with very nutritious stuff. It's good stuff for you. I'm telling you, they advertise it as nutritional. I don't know what they use for that, but I would assume that this is because the whole idea that the sun is inherently dangerous, right? Like dermatologists will tell you the only amount of safe sun exposure is none,

which is like laughably stupid, but that's how they're trained. So I would imagine that shift into spray tanning is to eliminate the, you know, because of the idea that inherently UV radiation is bad for you. And in extreme amounts it is, but getting exposed to the sun,

definitely not bad for you. Yeah, people in chat with Sir Frank, you can always find a neighbor that has one. Yeah, I guess so. People shouting Matt out, they want to say how to Matt out. They want to say hi to Matt. Yeah, it's just that COVID probably killed the tanning bed business and Shane B.

Yeah, that's a good point. Killed a lot of things. Yeah. Killed a lot of things. You know, I was. Well, that means there's a market for it now. That's right. Hold on.

You know what? Real quick. Mata. Make America tan again. Let me ask Google. You should open up a tanning salon. Was there any recent legislation passed in New York that limited with a glory hole in the back? Canning salons from opening up.

Just in case we get another COVID. They are. Because we know those are safe during COVID. Spray. Glory holes. I am separate. This is a separate fee. New York.

Oh, New York has heavily restricted rather than outright banned UV tanning salons through strict age limitations. Oh, and propose further restrictions to age 21. Oh, that's not the K. Oh, I want to know about the actual. Yeah, they did that. Didn't they do that with like Red Bull and shit? You need to be 21 to buy it now?

You can't. It's illegal for any. one under the age of 18 to use a UV tanning bed in New York. Oh, okay. Here's another one that I found out recently. You need to provide proof of, you know, an ID, proof of age to buy creatine. Oh, yeah. That's what that's what it was in New York.

Pre-workout. Creatine. Yeah, no, I think it was like pre-workout. Maybe if it has creatine because I've tried it. I mean, I've lived here for over 10 years, even just purchasing it on Amazon, which I don't recommend. But you have to, you have to put an ID. Molly's got a great creatine product over on keto.

brands. She sent me a whole box and I've been using it. But if you tried to order it through you know, Amazon or through regular channels, if you have a New York address, New York delivery address, why would that be? I have no idea. Is there is, I mean, you can overdose on water. So what, like, your body produces creatine. Creatine isn't it like the same structure as whatever type of steroid? It's like barely off. Yeah, I mean, it's similar. But I mean, your body produces creatine. So I don't understand how they, and they didn't restrict it for a while. And then one day I went on to just sort of buy creatine because I, it's one of the supplements

that I use. See, he juices. And I had to, actually, I do, and I do a couple of things. I do inject a couple of things if you're interested. Well, we can't talk about him here. That boil. What boil? Boyle.

Boyle? He spikes up. Oh. Spike up. Yeah, well. No, there's a lot of interesting things out there. I know about all the, like the, you're talking about peptides in particular? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, existing tanning facilities must adhere to strict record keeping, including photo ID. I don't see any reason why that this would, that this would, there is some evidence here that there's been an industry shift because regulations specifically target UV radiation devices. Businesses have shifted to spray tanning, which does not require the same health permits. Man, I mean, I don't know what they use again, but I would imagine it's probably worse for you. Because who knows? Yeah, I don't know. You know, your skin's absorbing, God knows what.

I don't know. Okay, now I asked everybody this question last night. First, I'm going to show you three memes. There is a meme format that is getting around on Instagram and elsewhere right now. It's been colloquially dubbed the millennial numbness meme. How numb millennials are to things like imminent war. now and everything else. I understand that it didn't start with us, but since we were born, it's been nonstop.

I know that people who are three times our age have seen world wars and everything else. But anyway, take a look at the here's what I played last night. Millennials barely phased by the 14th, once in a lifetime crisis of our adult lives. Nothing's going to keep me from my keto brains. Here's another one for you. millennials who literally watch 9-11 during high school English class went through two recessions, a global pandemic, and now are casually watching World War III

begin all before hitting 40. So there's another one. This one I love. Millennials witnessing 9-11 inside jobs to recessions, you know, so just kind of walk it through it. All before hitting 40. That's the punch line. of it all.

And so I asked everybody last night, think about it. Think about it. What are some of the things that we can also add to that list? And you are more than welcome to call in, to super chat it in. And here's what I was able to dig up. So obviously, starting with, I just started with 1999. I mean, we were all born early to mid-80s is when it all really started. I know some people put millennial

close to 81, 82, but it usually people are like, I don't know, anyway. Yeah, I always get confused on those. It doesn't, it's whatever. Y2K. Oh yeah.

Okay, now that was obviously just panic. I had a couple of friends who were freaked out about that. About Y2K? Yeah. That planes were going to, listen, we were stuck piling water. They were, and I remember vividly. We got together for our,

our 1999 New Year's Eve party. I was in eighth grade going, no, no, no, we were just going into our freshman year of high school. It was our freshman year, freshman winter break. And we had all of our friends from eighth grade from last year. Everybody's over and all that stuff. And we had a great party in 1999. And we were counting it down knowing that, hey, listen, at 12 midnight,

Eastern time, the lights may go out. The ATMs are spitting out cash. And of course, everybody, the one thing everybody kept talking about was, our plane's going to fall from the sky. Oh my God, imagine? Yeah, that we were going to hear like the whirring, almost like the V2 rockets coming in. I know, but then nothing happened. Yeah.

Totally anticlimactic. We, I mean, 1999 was also the dawn of what you can call the modern day school shooting era. Oh, yeah, that was Columbine. That was Columbine. that became, I mean, school drills, that started becoming a normal part of childhood at that point. I was working in, I was at an elementary school when I heard that on the news. I remember. Yeah.

Crazy. Yeah. Then, of course, there's 9-11. There's September 11th. Yeah. And that, of course, led to anthrax letters. Yep. That also led to the DC sniper thing.

Oh, yeah, the beltway. Yeah. Yeah. The guy that he was just like showing up, everybody was looking for white astro vans. Right. Right. A white astrovan was near A white Astrovan was near Home Depot

Because he was shooting at people near Home Depot Yeah Like from Virginia on up And they got caught because they slept in the car Just like Goodfellas. Yeah Oh, that's right. That's how we got busted?

Yeah. Huh. So, I mean, there was a lot there too. Well, there's like a trip down memory lane. I have to, I want to keep looking at the chat room. Let me see here. Yeah, they got it. The collective memory has got to bring

some more. So my, Wichita buzz says, I flew on Y2K. Wow. On New Year's Day, say I gave birth to my first, my first born in 1999 says Ricky.

I'm just looking at the general chat right here. I want to see. I just see what, what people are saying. But anyway, going back to this. Then we got, we got Iraq and Afghanistan.

Of course. 2000 3, yeah. 20 years, war on terror. Two decades of that. Of course, goes right back to what I was saying before with the headphones that make you gay. It looked like the daily terrorist updates. It's a yellow-coded day where everything's decent. Yellow.

Uh-oh. Got ticked up to orange. Something can happen at any time. Donald Rumsfeld coming out every few minutes. Like a groundhog to tell us whether, you know. That's what we lived with. It's amazing how things lose their effectiveness over time. Like even if it was a legitimate fear.

concern or maybe it lost as effective is because it because it really wasn't but it's amazing the things you just get used to and you're like yeah yeah terror alerts red i'm going i'm going to i'm going to do most of us were graduating i mean a good amount of us were graduating around 2006 7 8 when the when the financial crisis started the housing markets and all that stuff that that that whole crash uh that is I mean, that's, that's huge. Yeah. That's huge. I, I, I, I then, and then of course at that time, we had Barack Obama.

You can, you can consider that a, a black swan event. Yeah. You could. You certainly could. That I voted for. How many black swan events happen before they're not, they're no longer black swan events anymore, you know, it's like, I know. Well, because black swan events, they, they refer to a very specific gradient of, of, of, uh,

like you're talking about how many times probability removed from like you want to talk about there's like a mathematical equation right to actually categorize something as a black swan event and it's also one of those things where it's really just becomes a harbinger of a major change you know but there's also a a probability aspect to it all which like you're saying like you're saying when there's so many paradigm shattering not even paradigm shifting 9-11 and COVID are Yeah. Paradigm shattering things that happen within a quarter century, get the fuck out of here. I was going to say, so do you think it's, do you think it's the condensed nature of all these things that you're, that you have been listening that you continue to list?

Like, I feel like is that concentrated dose that is kind of unprecedented, which also makes you wonder whether they're organic or not. And obviously, we have plenty of reason to think things like 9-11 were not as organic as we were once led to believe, you know, on September 12th. Even the housing market. You know, guys, for Film Club, just a reminder, tomorrow night, 9 p.m. We're going to be watching Sherlock Holmes for a film club watch party. It's going to be so awesome. So make sure you become a sponsor.

I'm going to be putting around all of those private links tomorrow afternoon. But one of the things we've got to watch again is The Big Short. That's a great movie. It's a great movie. And it's a one of those things where you watch a movie like The Big Short. and yeah, perhaps it doesn't tell the whole thing. It's got to create a narrative just so that it is somewhat digestible for the average viewing audience. But when you realize what happened and how many people got away, actually there's nothing, I mean, all of them.

Yeah. It's not like how many, you know, how many people got away with it? Yeah, all of them. Who went to, who went to jail for 2008? Everything that precipitated that disaster, you know? Yeah. God, there are so many Bernie Madoffs. There's so many of them.

It's the way he did business. It's just crazy. But then we have, yeah, and that just brings us to right to COVID, of course. Some people would say that 2016, it was a Black Swan event with the election. Yeah. The election, Brexit. But Brexit, where did it go? Yeah, obviously nowhere.

I always ask, you know, friends of mine from the UK, what's the Brexit update? Did life actually change? You know, London is a third world city. They've been adhering to all the EU immigration policies. And I think they might as well be in the EU. What's different? It was a wasted opportunity is what Brexit was. It just went to show you that the people actually really aren't in control.

They can vote to leave the EU. Okay. What changes? When you've got that slob Boris Johnson in there who didn't, you know, he wasn't a representative of any kind of conservative or Tory party. I mean. I miss when we had like one big murder trial per summer. Like we had like OJ Simpson,

1995 or so. Yeah. It was like that's, that's what it was. Yeah. A couple of years later, we had Princess Diana. Oh,

yeah. I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot of different things. We had Matt's trial. Oh. In 2014. I heard about this.

May 27th, 2014. I re-permereated it. Guilty. Uh, yeah, yeah. I know, I heard, a jury of disinterested stoner's said that he was not guilty. So is that your peers? It was all of our peers. You know, there's a quite, there's, there's people that were watching it.

I, for anybody who ever wanted to watch that, that trial, I, I premiered it last week. And, uh, quite a few of us had a great time. Here it is right here. You want to see a little bit of this. I had to start representing myself. He did. He fired your counsel? He fired his counsel in the middle of the trial, but she stuck around and she insisted she

be co-counsel. Oh, okay. So there I am prosecuting Matt. It's funny. It's really funny. Here, take listen to this. Hold on. Look at this.

People are saying, I'm not guilty. This dude took a picture of a notebook in a car and tried to say it was in my car. All it was was a picture through a. window. You didn't even see what car was. So he put a notebook that had the same paper, put it in his car, took a picture of it, and that was his bombshell evidence

of the case. Wow. And what was your defense? Wow. Are you really? You are, even you are going out of your way to create new lore 10, 12 years later? That's what happened. I put that, that was the, so

the reason why we put him on trial, which we've got it, re-watching this was absolutely incredible. I miss these days so much. You know, but I understand it's just, there's so many people there that, I don't know,

everybody gets on with their lives and stuff. Yeah, but you had Mike as the bailiff who brought Matt in handcuffed. He brought him in handcuffed. So Matt was, he was escorting Matt, but he also had a sword over his shoulder.

Whoa. And then also, Mike, he presented in the middle of the, I love how we had a disclaimer there that in this, we called it the Supreme Court. Okay. And that after the, if there was a guilty verdict, the defendant would be executed right there on the spot. Wow.

And Mike showed that we actually had a lethal injection. He showed everybody the lethal injection that would be, look, and here's the lethal injection. So if he's guilty, we're going to kill him right now. Wow. You see, I actually think that we were doing good things. Yeah. This is how it should be. So what, okay.

So what was the crime? Okay, the crime was this. Matt was terrorist. I'm not, hold on. Hold on. Hold on one of the time. I need to hear the evidence. You can, listen, it doesn't matter.

I'm telling him why you were there. He was being accused of terroristic threats. Okay. And what he was. He was allegedly doing. What he was allegedly doing was everybody was getting notes on their car. Every time we left the studio,

there would be notes on our car coming from mostly the same notebook. Jamuga. There you go. She's a woman, Jamuga. So Matt, we were getting all these notes left on our cars and it was saying things like, I am coming, you are, you know,

the time is almost up. The sturgeon moon. Like, like, always talking about how the moon, the phase of the moon was good. And he would sign, he would sign it,

the silent soldiers, SS, the new SS. Okay. All right. And so we had, I had handwriting samples of Matt and everything that I said, listen,

it's the same handwriting. We saw the actual book, his, we saw the book. that we believed all the notes were coming. Most of the notes were coming from was a spiral notebook that was inside of his little Volkswagen at the time. We saw it.

We actually went to our judge, Judge Koss, and we said we want a warrant to search his car. We think that we have reason to believe that the originating notebook is in there. We got the warrant. I actually put it up. I actually have it here. I still have the warrant. Signed and everything. That's actually how I found the date of the trial because it predates the trial.

because it predates the trial. So I found that I went into the archives. I saw May 27, 2014. And we were, he obstructed us from going into the car. And then when he said, fine, fine, you can go into the car. We went in there. It's gone. It's gone.

Now, okay. There's one thing I'll show you. Matt, I want to hear your side of the story next. Hold on. This is hilarious. We bring our, we bring in our buddy Jay. Our buddy Jay Estrowski, and he was a character witness I brought in. And you got to hear this.

This is incredible. Hold on a second. Wait a second. Wait. Jay's testimony with Matt is fantastic. Oh, yeah. Your honor. Your honor.

Hold on. All that's our nation. Lie. Here's Jay. Here's Jay. Now, Jay, Jay wanted to show everybody a voice note that Matt had sent. that could give a little bit of clarity to the intentions of this guy and what he might be covering up. Matt, did you send the voice note or is this allegedly?

Oh, no, no. Dude, you look at this AI shit that we got going on. In 2014? Anyway, so this is Judge Koss, and he finally said, I don't want to know. It's inadmissible. Then he says, no, actually, I want to listen to it. Okay. So listen to this.

Hey, he's playing right now. Ignore it. Hey, Matt goes, ignore it. A jury, that, that just goes to show you that really is something. Grab the microphone from him. Take the microphone from him. No. Hold on.

We got to get through this. Okay, so now, Jay, show everybody. Show everybody what you have for us here at the boxer. Your Honor has none of do with the case. I sustained it. There's Jay. What are you doing? I was overruled the whole case.

You're over here. He's a character witness, Your Honor. Sustained. You just don't just go and keep doing it. with your agenda, but the judge is... I've been overruled everything. You're overruled.

Your Honor, you're sustaining this? Is the Dahlza donation? Why is Matt the only accused? Why is Matt the only accused? Wait a minute. It actually does because he's talking about this. No, I'm not.

You're on what premise. What premise? Huh? On what premise? Can we please listen to it? Fine. We can listen to it. He's talking about how far he'll go to protect this lie.

Your Honor, this objective this is leading. Everybody's just saying things. Leading the witness. Everybody's just saying things. Jay is sitting there saying hey, I have him on tape and you're going to hear the threat. This is fantastic.

Hold on up to the microphone. It's his hearsay too. Hearsay. Yeah, I can hear Matt say. Hold on. No. He doesn't say the letters, but he's not. Your Honor, it has no substance to the It has no substance to this case, Your Honor.

Now, now he's about to play it. Now, after he plays it, listen to the first thing that Matt's co-counsel says to, because it's just so damning. I'm overruled the whole case. You cry the one time you. I'm not crying? I couldn't believe that he has nothing to do with this case. Then I have no further. It will damage.

It will damage my client's reputation. Your Honor, Your Honor. Here, listen. Wait. There you go. Wait. Your Honor. Listen.

There's no way to prove that that wasn't edited together. There you. We had him on tape threatening a witness saying I'm going to beat myself up and say it was you. You're going to go to jail if you do this. And the first thing as counsel says is, we don't know that that wasn't edited together. Just like a lawyer. It's true. It's true.

Oh, man. This was such a good time. I'll put it in the chat room. If you guys want to watch it, you want to watch yourself. I was leaving notes, right? You know what happened during this fucking case? What? What?

When we went to go out, you know, for a break for the verdict, everyone had a note on their car. I was in there the whole time. Yeah, it was me, though, right? Yeah, it was him. That's an interesting development. That's an interesting development. I wasn't told this.

It was all the same misspellings, everything. This may be grounds for a retrial. Oh, I would love to do another trial. Yeah, he should be, yeah, you're right. I would love to do another trial. And I'm truly impartial because I wasn't around for this. Dude, that was so fun, that mock trial. I want to do stuff like that, but I need cast members.

I don't know what hell anybody is anymore. All right. Anyway. Matt, you still claim innocence? It wasn't me. It was him. All right. I just want to make sure.

I don't do child of shit like that. No, clearly. Oh, dear Lord. Okay. Anyway, anyway. So that's just some good stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

So Black Swan events, Matt's trial was one of them. Yeah. That was a big deal. I do remember seeing that on CNN. Looking back. Yeah. Oh, man, it was so great. There's so many little moments.

I put the link in the chat room in case you guys want to watch it for yourself. Poor Matt was framed by Franks as being aware. See? I was. And then people, just to piss me off, start taking his side, they know. Okay, maybe procedurally, it was a mess. The trial was a mess. It sounded like a little bit of a mess.

Yes. That's what makes it funny. Like a mistrial. Procedurally, I know, it was a mess. He would probably have been led off mistrial in any court in America. Except in the Southern District of New York. Well, of course. But other than that, I think everybody knows doubt in their gut what happened.

You couldn't pin your country. crime on me. You didn't do the evidence good enough. I did. Reasonable doubt. Yeah. I have it already. Reasonable doubt. I know. Well, I know like I said, it was a mess. But, but yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot more. A lot more. All right. So, so, so we're going to take some, take some time to read through what you guys have. We know that the chat room has already been kicking around their own black swans and stuff. I want to read your super chats

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um listen to this i got in the email actually i got a voicemail that just came in i think this is from todd take a listen frank this is problematic todd i just wanted to call in and tell you that your show last night with brian from demon erasers

was awesome making quite frankly great again not that you weren't already great you get my point i thought he brought the fire a lot of what he said rang true at least in my gut, and that's all we can go off of these days. And also, I love the clips at the end, specifically the one where the big Loboskey predicted the Epstein timeline.

I don't know how the dude did it, but I got to imagine he was smoking and joint and listening to Credence. Yes, it probably was. And, you know, last night, I don't know if you missed it out there, you have to watch it. Because there was just some moments there that I just left in my mouth open. because we were just getting dragged through all this awesome stuff, and I love those nights. Yeah, I mean, sometimes when you're drinking from the fire hose,

you just got to let it happen. Well, cigarettes became a big part of last night's show. Yeah. And how essentially every cigarette, every cigarette boxes design, the cigarettes themselves, the manufacturers, they are in one way or another tied to some Jewish, Kabbalistic practice,

and it's satanic. Yeah, a lot, yeah. Like, every... Newport. tied to everything everything is uh everything has eagles are like nazi stuff uh eagles pyramids what do you mean nazi stuff you just said it was jewish oh see you have to watch the other you have to watch the other part it we're trying uh brian from demon erasers started out by talking about what ashkenazi really is that was interesting yes it was very jewish nazis it's just

nazi it's it you have to just check it out it's it's it's you have to just check it out it's It's interesting. You know, it was an open forum. I was listening on my phone while I was working, but I found myself jumping, you know, so I was just listening, but I found myself jumping over to the actual stream so I could see what he was putting up on screen just so I could see some of the, you know, the logos and some of the, and when he was doing the tracing the tree from Abraham, I was like, wow, you know, I kind of wanted to put up on my TV so I could see it a little bit better,

you know, than on the phone, but it was interesting. Oh, I can't wait to have him back on. Yeah, yeah. He had me bouncing back and forth last night. He wasn't getting a lot of productive work done. I always reach out to guests and thank them and all that stuff. And I said, hey, man, I can't wait to have you back on. Sometimes it's just, I really needed that.

I needed it last night. That's different than when someone takes you to a place that you, you know, we've all watched you have those nights where you try to lasso a guest because, like you really want to talk about something and they just will not, like a dog with a bone will not leave something else alone and you're just, I'm trying to bring you trying to bring you back. You mean like when I wanted to talk about

nice Hollywood encounters and Roseanne Barr kept talking about the Muslim Brotherhood? Yeah, like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but like last night, I could tell that you were truly interested in where he was going, even though if that wasn't the intent of the show.

And those nights are just kind of like magical sometimes. You just let him run. Well, Matt used to be a smoker. Did you ever smoke cigarettes? No. Never? No. Me neither.

But Matt used to smoke cigarettes. and this was sent in by by AK in the Discord. And I thought it's interesting because it's very much like what we were looking at last night with all the different types of cigarettes there, but it gets it's a little bit more funny instead of occulted. And it talks about the kind of person you are based on what you're smoking. And we'll just start up here. Marlboro Red, cowboy killers, which means pretty much any adult white man.

if you smoke Marlolo What is that? Marlowe smooth, Matt? Which ones the silver ones? No, this white blue one. Maybe menthol? Yeah, menthol? Yeah, got to be. Nice, my, yeah, Marlowe's smooth.

Christmas is your favorite holiday if you do that. Camel menthol, first semester of college girl. What's this black camel down here? I've never seen some of these. I only date black guys and I have a small dog. Damn it. What is Camel Red? Camel Red lights?

Huh. It says, damn it. Camel menthols, oops, I'm failing all my classes. Marlboro, what's this brown Marlowe? I've never seen that either. Stoner guys who rent a house with four other dudes smoke Marlabo Brown. Okay. The Marlowe ultralights, I'm trying to quit.

That's actually the ones I started with. Yeah. Yeah. Marbleau Marbleau lights, 40-year-old mom who also drinks light beer. Marbleau Nxte. He never seen that either. Probably watches Rick and Morty, I don't know.

Camel, Camel Blue, the Beatles invented rock and roll. That's just the skull. Just stop it. Camel, what is that? My favorite books are Catcher in the Rye, 1984, and the Great Gatsby. I guess you just, it's like a writer. Yeah, like a hipster kind of thing.

Yeah. Clean-shaven college dudes, uh, smoke camel 99s. You're still not sure what to smoke, so you're going to try these. Why? It's camel wide filters. Wow. I know the stereotype is that black people smoke menthol's, but I think Marlabo menthals are specifically made for white people who smoke them too.

Nah, I never smoked Marlboro menthol. Let's see. What are these? American spirit. I smoke. I smoke those. sometimes. Unnaturally colored hair.

And then this other American spirit, the yellow boxes, I've been bumming smokes for so long. I finally broke down and decided to buy myself a pack, but I didn't know what to buy so I picked these. And then American spirits in the black box, which I've never seen, I go to a local microbrewery to hit on chicks and drink sour beer. Oh, I can see. You know what? I don't even know what it tastes like, but I know that type of person. They're strong. the first time I had an American

one of those and like ninth grade I got sick Wow yeah yeah I remember it That's how bad it was I got sick like you threw up I don't think I threw up but I just it was I didn't like it I have one over here what the hell is L&M

No I never seen that either I've had some of those You have? Yeah Hold on A manager from what I used to work at What fucking hardware store L&M says has a barbed white Did he have a barbed wire tattoo wearing his arm?

I don't know. He always wore long shirts. Then you have Misty. Okay. Misty, the old black lady on your street who sits on her porch and waves at you every day after work. She smokes Misties. Parliament.

I smoke those. Parliament will corner you at the bar and talk about philosophy and politics. Let's see here. Wave wave cigarettes. People probably smoke these through their stone. Oh,

Paul Malls. This was a favorite of some of my great aunts. I'll pay you back on Friday when I get paid. And then Paul Moll Blue, the restaurant manager smokes those. Oh, cool. I remember the cools. Salem.

Salem, menthol, is that what it is? Career waitress. And then Virginia Slim Lights, wine mom who screams at her kids in public. Okay. Oh, Newport menthol. That's the one that Mike used to smoke that. I smoked those mainly for years.

Yeah, Mike smoked that a lot. And then he finally... The only reason why is because the non-menthal cigarettes, it would leave a bad taste of my mouth. Yeah? Yeah. So is that what menthol does, essentially? Just give you that minty color?

For me, yeah, it was a better after. Huh. See, learn something new every day. Ages 18 to 29 SoundCloud Rappers. ages 29 plus working class black people. Okay. Lucky strike is country grandpa. I've smoked those.

When I go paintballing, I like to smoke those, but some, every once in a rule, I would get a, huh? Why, why is?

That shit is strong, bro. So it helps you paintball then? Helps you concentrate. Ah. Do you really notice a different, I mean, this is like truly me speaking from ignorance. You notice a difference between different cigarettes?

Well, lucky, strike you'll know the difference from okay that shit's not filtered well listen um that punch you right in okay i mean you know jay you know i mean nicotine if you're getting a the problem with all these especially nowadays is what they're they're filled with of course yeah and i'm sure that you would say that even if they were the cleanest they can be it's not necessarily good to smoke anything i don't think it caused cancer if straight tobacco smoke i don't think it caused I think that we would be, I think it would be a lot less of a threat.

Yes. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. And you have to separate nicotine from cigarettes. And that's really hard for people to do. In fact, it's really hard to find research on just nicotine that doesn't have to do with cigarettes. But I can see a clean, unfiltered, lucky strike kind of a cigarette being something that you can smoke before you're doing something like, you know, a shooting sport or anything else. And have it because I mean now that every once in a while I I drop some some some some nicotine with the droppers.

It's like you know I know why Arthur Morgan smokes cigarettes in Red Dead Redemption and you get better red eye control with your guns. Yeah. Well, that's what Matt's describing. You're describing that neotropic effect of nicotine. Well, there's also other factors to why people will get certain cigarettes like Newport's. When you're high, they say if you smoke a new port or whatever, it gets you. higher or whatever. Well, I mean...

Parliament, they have a little like The tip has like a little hollow point in it. I don't know if they still do or not. And someone told me like crack had used it to like Freebase crack off of it. Wow. I had to imagine. I mean, I knew I knew kids who were

you know, dipping Dipping cigarettes into formaldehyde embalming fluid. Who did that? Who did that? We had friends who had We had friends who had friends who knew a guy We had friends who had a friend Whose father was a mortician

Oh, oh Well, I used to do it Really? Yeah, I used to do it. It came to me 25 hours Giving you cigarette, boom The embalming fluid? Yeah, what does it do? I, shit fucked you up. Wow. I mean, I don't know, it never, it, honestly, whenever I did it

I didn't do it a lot I did it like maybe a handful of times. Who did it the first time? But I sold it. I know. And I don't know. The only thing I really remember of that is that we would lay down and then we'd have whoever just pull and swing us up and it felt like you were like taking off like into the sky.

But other than that, well, you know, that was the problem. Things didn't really face me too much. You know, I feel like, I feel like you get shot into space. But, you know, other than that, it's stupid. Not a waste of time. But, you know,

going back to what you're saying about well we smoke this one thing to make us feel higher or something like that. A, it's no doubt just the breathing the deeper breathing is part of it. And some things pair better with like whiskey and stuff. For whiskey you'd want like a lucky strike cigarette. So the

little different taste. Oh yeah. I'd want a cigar. You got a nice stiff drink and you got a nice fucking because for me I like to feel the stuff going down into my lungs. I like to feel, I did, I like to feel it ripped my lungs apart. Wow. That's, that's usually

the thing that keeps people from not, you know, like the first time you take that drag and you're like, and you cough, because I did, I did smoke one cigarette once because I wanted to see and I was like, why does anybody do this? Like you have to overcome, right? You have to overcome that, initially. I was also very young the first time someone gave me a cigarette. And you didn't have any kind of reaction to it? Like you were just, I coughed, but I just kept doing it. Well, that, right, and that's the thing, yeah. Whenever, well, whenever we pack a hookah still to this day, if you pack it well, and I'm pretty good at that now, I mean, you're flying high for a couple minutes. I mean, it's just, you know, it's just like it's the tobacco and all that stuff. So that, it has that

effect, that new tropic effect, no doubt about it. But it's not like you're, you're stoned or anything like that. Right. So I can see how, if you're combining the two, if you're already stoned or something like that and then you you smoke a really fine quality tobacco product that it's going to enhance it puff, you know, I don't know,

fluff it, something like that. All right, well, regardless of all that stuff, these cigarettes are all Jewish witchcraft, so you can't that's the takeaway. That's it. It doesn't Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter. Oh, man. Anyway, so. I mean, when you really think about it, right, like how he was describing it as a, you are the sacrifice, right? Like, that's the, and then you think about population control and all those things, it is remarkable that those would be on all of the cigarette brands, like all the boxes. Yeah.

Like, you are the sacrifice. That's, that was what got me. I was like, wow. That is. For a long time. I got to quit this now. I quit this for a while. I was doing the chew for like three or four.

months and I just... Dude. What about nicotine itself, Matt? Yeah. Like a lozange. I got an addictive personality. Yeah, but I mean... And it's probably a good thing that nicotine is the only thing that I stayed addicted to as much as I am. I agree.

That thing was, I'm really happy that that thing got you off of cigarettes. But you'd be surprised there's some really clean nicotine products out there. supplements out there that get you away from all that. Yeah. You'll see. A chew. A chew.

A chew. Tinctures. Lossinger. Lossinger? A cough drop? Yeah. Yeah. Let me know.

Pouches. Yeah, I want the lozenges make me hook. I'm just reading everybody in the chat room tonight. So everything's going. Everything's going. Let's actually, it's going to the super chats real quick. East to West says just say no to smoking.

Esperanza, Vince Tarro says, Grasios to the three amigos, great topics this week. I agree. This was a week that I always feel good at the end of it, like, wow, we did some good work.

Though, you know, tomorrow night we're going to have a watch party. Saturday night, I am going to be live at 8 o'clock on Chrissy Mayer's show from her studio. I believe at her house or something like that. But that'll be on Saturday.

night so I'll make sure that link gets out there. It'd be great to have some of you guys show up and show some support and be kicking around in the chat room so I don't get roasted too much. I'm sure I'm going to get roasted by somebody. Carmenina says, loving the show tonight, gentlemen, nice to see Matt and Gianni. Oh, welcome. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you, Nina. Running on empty says Matt did a stellar job in his trial. I'm with you, Matt. Thank you. I mean, listen, he knew that his life was on the line. he fired his counsel and he said, I'm, I'm representing myself. It's fair. And, um, and there, and there you have it.

And he was, he was a bulldog. Uh, Jay Britt says, all-star cast, Frank Matt and Jamuga. Boy, that's going to stick, huh? It's just a good, it's, it happens. It happens this way. You know, uh, twisted clown says Frank, Frank, uh, Frank, does the fall of athletes count? Tiger, bonds, Lance. Oh, you know what?

That's a wonderful thing to put in there. oh tiger lance and who else uh Barry Bonds oh yeah listen Barry Bonds never I mean I guess fell like in name only he fell in name only he he needs to be in that him I think collectively they kind of like they they all kind of fell I don't really place it on bonds he wasn't the only one doing that stuff right so I mean how about how we put this let's put this out there that's a really great thing we're seeing you know the steroid era that was another

that was another whole thing but also can we add in the we also saw the death of Hollywood. Yeah. I mean, Hollywood crashed and burned, man. I know that there's just plenty of money floating around in there and they have their thing. They're self-sustaining at this point. They've got endowments that will keep them going for another 200 years. But as far as the mark of celebrity, oh, man.

That's true. And not only just fall from grace because of Weinstein-level scandals and everything else and, you know, just the truth movement in general did not stay focused on just, you know, terrorism and inside jobs and, you know, the corruption inside of Congress. We know, you know, that eventually branches out. You know that that takes in television and that takes in network news and it takes in the movies and all that other stuff that it's all about. big scam in one way or another. It's very, very infiltrated with dark art type messaging and whatever. Sure. And then, of course, there's just the natural way that it has been encroached on by new media.

And that's going to be interesting. By the way, did you see that the Supreme Court dismissed listening to a case about AI intellectual property rights? that you cannot, that AI, stuff that is created by AI cannot be copyrighted. It cannot be receiving any traditional intellectual property protections. Interesting.

Yeah. So I believe that means things that you prompt. Right. See, if it came out of your head, you know, so I like that. Now, how do you approve that though? I, well, I guess that's going to be easy to prove as far as, you know, what can be detected and how do you know something is created,

either become a composite thing or what, I mean, first of all, if you can't find the actors in your movie, because they don't exist. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure that the ones that you are, that do exist in your movie, you can, you can, you can check with Tom Hanks's publicist to see if he did a movie about, whatever. So I think, I don't know, I should look into it, but I don't, I think that's, that's pretty much what it states that it has to be done by the hand of humans. I've said this on the show so many times.

I don't know if you guys are noticing this lately, but I feel like, I don't know, I can't, let me put a percentage on it. I would say 75 to 80% of all the ads I see on YouTube or Rumble now are AI. And they're not, you can tell by the voices, but then you look at them and you're like, it's not a person. And I can tell, you know, there's like little subtleties that are weird and they've got weird mannerisms. they're getting better and they're trying to, but it's, it's just so, I just don't understand it.

It's just so strange that they're trying to, you know, push this out there, but it seems to me that, that high of a percentage. I'm seeing, and it's in a variety of things, whether you're, whether you're watching anything on sports or music or whatever. So like, it's, I don't think it's necessarily tied to one specific algorithm. It's a variety of different videos have these AI ads. And it's wild. Yeah. What do you think, Matt? I think, there is a fun, a fun ass to AI, though. There's no doubt. I'm just wondering how it's being used and why it's being used so much in ads. I know, Matt, you got to leave soon, but Mike has been, I'm choking on new music. Yeah. What? AI's good for that, but. Yeah. You got to listen to some of this stuff. It's going to kill you.

It really is. Oh, oh, by the way, speaking of it, it's going to kill you. You and I spoke, Jay, quickly, the other week about RFK glyphosate and understanding the the approach that they were having to first bringing all of this

the production of this fertilizer and pesticide home and then hopefully from there being able to find a way to wean off of it there was another aspect to that that we didn't cover that I saw after the fact

Okay. And that in this executive order in February, it, it proposes legislation that aims to provide some level of liability protection for glyphosate manufacturers, potentially shielding them from thousands of lawsuits alleging cancer risks. Yeah, that's not good. So that did not come up because we were just talking about, like, you know, the practicality, the practicality of that. chain of events in eventually getting rid of it all to make sure that the food supply doesn't

totally collapse all at once. But I don't know why you would need liability protection over the... If you have any intention of getting away from this stuff, why you would have liability protection over the course of a transitional period. If it's all going... It just doesn't seem like that needs to be involved at any point. No, and I think then this might have been after we talked, but I think then RFK was on Rogan and he talked about it. And he honestly said, I don't agree with the executive order, but I understand why it was done.

I know you read an RFK tweet that night, but I think he was on Rogan and even further explained how he really didn't support it, but he understands why. My concern, and I'm sure we'll get into this later, if we talk at all about, you know, current world events and what's going on in Iran, my concern is that there are still too much. many people around Trump that don't have anybody's best interest. And obviously, he's one man. He can't possibly know every paragraph that's in every executive order. And I think we've seen that before. That's my concern is that something like that got shoved in there. Even going over everything we went over last time,

understanding why he did what he did, something like a liability shield, that should not be in there. And I would disagree. If he knew it was in there for sure and he signed it anyway, well, then I just disagree. My question is, you know, who's putting together these executive orders? that's still my concern. Yeah, I didn't, that was one thing I just did not. No.

I didn't catch last week. Especially for a company that's already been found liable for several things. I mean, it's, you know, there have been several court cases. I know some of the judgments have been lessened. You know, I don't think, I think one of the cancer victims is already dead. But I think the amount that was awarded was lessened. But this company, you know, Monsando was a repeat offender. So to give anybody liability shield at this point, and I think it's off patent, so I think

now most of it's made in China, if I, I'm understanding that correctly. But we'll see. Yeah, we will. Okay, listen, Matt's going to be here for another couple of minutes, and Jay is here. I'm here. We're going to have some time on the flip side to hang out with you as well. Jay usually sticks around for some extra time. But, oh, we're going to have a very special.

there's not that much to tell you right now, but a very special announcement on the flip side. We'll tell the flip siders tonight, anybody who pops over with us after the end credits, because there's really not, there's no real details to give you except what Jay and I established before the show tonight. So talk about that later on. You can call in 914-200-0269. Ask Matt a question. Ask Jay a question. throw anything onto the table that,

that, I don't know, you have a comment about cigarettes and, and whatever the hell else, call in and also like the show, comment, share the show, please do not lurk, do not lurk. It is imperative that you do not lurk. So call up. 911-200-0-269. I got a question for both you guys. Yeah.

So this was when all the Epstein files were released. I kind of found myself half going down this rabbit hole and it was very interesting to me. What do you guys think about? Michael Jackson. Like when I say Michael Jackson, you know, what's the, what's the first thing that comes to your mind? Either how you actually feel or what you think the public feels. I'm just kind of curious. Are you talking about his public persona and his legal issues and his reputation or about his time as an artist?

No, not as an artist. Oh, I think that he was railroaded and I think that he was set up. And I think that he was very sacrificially killed slowly over the course of, of a lifetime in a way that you can see happen time and time again now where something you love the most is inverted and turned against you as a weapon and and yeah and of course the media the media reaction the media behavior around him you know it's it's it's pretty indicative of how we see people's character assassinated constantly now yeah Matt I don't think he touched no kids okay so

I mean, this is like, I never had an opinion either way. But when I was trying to break this down in my mind, because you know there was that strange phone call that was released in the midst of all the Epstein stuff, and I never actually figured out, and maybe somebody in the chat knows, was this part of the Epstein release or was this just released or discovered at the same time as? But it was a phone call where basically, and I actually, to Mass point earlier, at first I was like, maybe this is AI, right? because like, it's not like you don't have a million samples of Michael Jackson's voice.

So to create a phone call for Michael Jackson would be not difficult to do. But it was a phone call where he was basically explaining that he was in fear of his life and that he can't talk about, you know, all the kind of stuff you would think. And I, Michael Jack, it would have been really easy, given everything we know about all these celebrities and politicians, if you were to say, oh, yeah, you know, here's another celebrity pedophile. That would be really easy to just check off the list and be like, yep, Michael Jackson's scumbag pedophile. Yep, like really easy to do. I never went there with him.

I didn't know what to believe. So I never really had an opinion. But I have in recent years come much more to what you just stated, Frank, and what you said, Matt. I really had this thought that, like, one of the reasons he had to be railroaded was because he was that unique celebrity that crossed cultural barriers. he was, you know, royalty around the world wanted to meet with Michael Jackson. So he had influence, he had power, he had popularity, he had money, he had fame. He was essentially uncorruptible. So if he had moral clarity, and then you think, well, why would kids be so drawn to him?

Well, maybe because he was a child star once. He would be one of the only people who knew what he was going through. And in some instances where some of these kids were sort of being offered up by their own parents. Yeah. Which he was, too. Right. That's what I mean. So they had nowhere to turn.

And if Michael Jackson is like the one place that they can go where he actually understands them truly because he went through it and then actually gave them a safe space, he was very dangerous to the establishment. And those are those rare celebrities that I think you're right, that I think have to be removed from the chess board because they are incorruptible. And I was just interesting to me. And I think that's why the industry elevates a lot of lesser talented celebrities because they, you can just hold it against them. You were nothing before. We elevated you through this place. They're absolutely vapid. Right.

And if you don't do what we say, we return you to where you came from, which is nowhere. But Michael Jackson, who was truly talented and all the things I just said, wealthy and all of these things, you can't control someone like that. So if that person has a core morality that is incorruptible, that's very dangerous. And these are things that I know, I'm sure other people have thought of this before, but it just started to come together for me. And because there was a recent headline that seemed random to me from the New York Post that was something along the lines of like Michael Jackson was a prolific pedophile with access to children anywhere he wanted says, you know, prosecuting counsel. I was like, well, yeah, I mean, of course he said that. He was the prosecuting counsel. But also, why is this headline relevant in 2026?

Michael Jackson's been dead since 2009. And I just thought it was weird because it happened during all this Epstein stuff. And I thought, oh, it's like the media telling you, hey, remember, this guy was a pedophile, right? Like, he wasn't trying to save anybody. He wasn't trying to unravel any. You know what I mean? So it all just like hit me one day when I was putting it all together in my mind. So I just wanted to ask you guys because I never knew how to feel about it before.

And now I'm starting to feel a very specific way about it. There was a lot of, there was a long time where I just had that, that gut. feeling about it. Yeah. Especially since you, I noticed a pattern in the news where he would get accused of something and they could never nail him on anything. And the news loves pedophiles. Why would they, you know, why would they go against him?

They love pedophiles. Well, that's the other thing there too. Everybody that would, that would make an accusation would later either retract it or say that they were put up to it by their parents or something else like that. And then you have all these bigger, McCulley Culkin. and, you know, a few others. I'm trying to think of the names now. Oh, one of the ones who died recently.

Cory Feldman. Aaron Carter, I think. Dude, the things that they would say, that they would come out in his defense, the way that he would be defended by people, especially child stars of the late 80s, early 90s that he really took under his wing and stuff like that. Yeah, he was a, he was a strange guy.

He lived a strange reclusive life. He was also the most popular. person on the planet. Right. You know, between him and Michael Jordan. I mean, it's just crazy. Yeah, you might be weird, too, if you couldn't go anywhere. If you couldn't go anywhere, and if you were beaten mercilessly by your father and abused, God knows how many ways. And you really never had a childhood. No. And you just, you were always this machine. So I can, I can understand why you would, you would revert to, you know, more like childlike, I don't know, having to either way. I always had those kind of those those feelings in my stomach and the pattern recognition of how all the

accusations would usually fall flat but it doesn't matter once the accusations are out there and they're coming in in bunches then that's just what the average person the average person just fucking takes these little things and they they create things they create you know conclusions they draw conclusions that lasts a lifetime right so the accusation is is the is the character assassination like that's the crime there like oh just by merely suggesting it because my larger question is you guys are different, and your audience is probably different.

But when you say Michael Jackson to the average person, what do you think the first thing that comes to mind is? Yeah. Well, yeah, I think it's split. I think if you're not a loyal fan of his and if you don't have a, if you don't tend to want to defend him because you believe in the beauty of his work and everything else, and you also know more about him than most people. You draw those conclusions.

Did you know him personally? No. But I think it really, it also goes along fan lines. But there are other people who are just also very objective about it. And they follow what he's done in courtrooms, what has been lobbed against him and how he's defended himself in courtrooms for decades then. And I keep bringing it up. My gut feeling and my just surface level pattern recognition about how he was fucked with in the news and in courtrooms in and out of courtrooms until his dying day and then still trying to pick the bones of his estate all these

years after his death, it was Razor Fist and his three-part absolute, you got to watch it. Yeah. It is a bulldozing of everything that's ever been thrown at Michael Jack. You got to check out, just type in Razor-Fist Michael Jackson, and he did two main videos and then a follow-up. Every time that a Netflix documentary or an HBO documentary comes out and they try to reopen a can of worms and try to bring salacious things to the front and all that stuff. And when there's a new attempt to grab money from his estate, that always pops up.

Who owns his collections and shit like that? You got to watch. Everybody's got to watch those. They're really incredible. That'll take all of your gut feelings and give you some more hard-nosed, data-driven, a court analysis of the whole of everything and that's what i don't have but it just you know the larger picture for me was we always wonder why you know i always find myself saying how did this no talent loser you know get anywhere and then and then just that it all kind of came together for me and

i was like oh that's why because they're intentionally elevated because they are the ultimate controllable pawns because they get they have to go back to their you know their job at 7-11 or whatever if, you know, if they step out of line. That's why they're all in lockstep during COVID. That's why they're all in lockstep about an experimental gene therapy. That's why they're all in lockstep about anything and everything, anti-Donald Trump, whatever it is. You do what we tell you to do or you go back where you came from because you are talentless. That is why we have no talent in art anymore. That's true. Because those people are able to bend and manipulate public perception about the world around them. It's definitely part of it.

Yeah. Let's take a call. Let's see. A caller, you're on the air. Go ahead. Obviously, I'm calling quite frankly, correct? Indeed. My question to you guys is that you guys are talking about Michael Jackson at this moment. I'm trying to stay on topic. And I was just curious as to how his Sony contract and maybe that would have been upset with him, would have played into maybe any of his demise. And I just want to let you know, Frank,

that Jay and Matt are a great team. Awesome. I'm a bad lander, so I'm just sitting here, just watching through Badlands. I think you guys are all great. It's great to have Matt on. Great to have Jay on. Jay's always a great person as well as Matt.

And so these two are just, they're great. So that was my question. Well, first, let me start from the back and move to the front and go to the back. Thank you for that. I love when Jay and Matt are in. I love when they're in individuals as a group. I love it all. And I'm glad that you're enjoying yourself.

Also, you made a little bit of history tonight because you're the first person to call into the show on a Thursday night. and identify yourself as a bad lander. Oh, that's cool. You know, I never, you know, I want to hear people calling and say, hey, it's so-and-so from this chat or that chat. Yeah. So this is the first time I've had somebody call and say, hey, I'm a bad lander, and I love that.

And then the first thing you said about the Sony contract, what about it in particular are you asking? Because I don't know, like, is, I don't know too much about that. So maybe you can illuminate me. Well, honestly, I just remember that there was a video that came out that he was upset about it. So that's why I was asking you, because I'm not really informed as well. And if you guys are wondering if anybody's out there listening, CSUSB Geo Chem, that's me. I'm asking me in the chat.

But honestly, I was just simply asking it because you guys were talking about, because you guys were talking about how, you know. Okay, hold on, hold on. Here, hold on. In 2002, video footage and audio recordings emerged of Michael Jackson publicly expressing deep frustration with his contract and relationship with Sony Music. He was upset over the poor commercial performance of his 2001 album Invincible, and he believed Sony failed to promote it properly.

in June and July 2002, he gave speeches in London and New York City calling then Sony Music CEO Tommy Motola mean, racist, and very, very devilish. I remember this. He, during the protests in New York in July 2002, Jackson appeared with a banner that read Sony kills music and told supporters that Sony had tried to sabotage his album. And then contractual issues, Jackson claimed that he had generated. billions for Sony and accused him of acting in bad faith asserting that he was leaving the company as a free agent while retaining half of his publishing rights. And in the speeches, he alleges that Motola was manipulative and that the company had not properly promoted his work. So, yeah, I remember some of those statements, but I thought

I was going to be seeing something a little bit newer than 2002. So listen, caller, if anything pops up new, just send me an email. Frank at quite frankly.tv. We'll do so. Thank you, sir. That's a great call. That's cool. Yeah.

No, it's a good point. I mean, you know, if there's a million different angles you could approach that from, but what if they just wanted to try to diminish his standing as an artist because that also diminishes his influence? And people forget when he died, he was on that comeback tour.

He was ready to do this is it, right? It was right before he launched it. Right, right. Like, he was in rehearsals. I think there's a rehearsal out there on YouTube of like the day before he died. Yeah. It's crazy.

Well, that's the whole, that, have you guys ever watched? This is it? Yeah. A heck, you haven't. Oh,

you gotta. Yeah. That's an incredible. I mean, that was just everything. You just see how still he was just sharp as everything. Yeah. Um,

and that, that entire movie documentary was about everything that went into planning that final world tour. Yeah. And that never went off. Uh, God knows, you know,

what the hell it was, but those rehearsals are incredible. You see the attention, the detail. It's awesome to see, like, all of the, the inner workings of, of that, that level of a production. Yeah. And if you haven't seen this, I haven't seen it in so many years. I love to watch it again. Yeah.

And, you know, yeah, I just, I wanted to, you know, you think the worst thing you can have is your reputation destroyed once you're gone and no longer around to defend it, especially if it was the complete opposite of how you existed as a, you know, as a human being on earth. Like if you were there to defend and protect children and then you get smeared as a pedophile in death, I mean, that has got to be just the,

it just feels like that record needs to be corrected. I know. Matt, it's 830. That means you have to leave? Yeah, I've got a goal. All right, man.

All right, man. Thanks for hanging out, man. Thank you. You want to come back next week? You think you might be able to come back next week? Yeah, probably. Anytime. It doesn't have to be out of Thursday.

If it's a Tuesday, a Wednesday, just, I'll text you, let me know. Also, your niece keeps asking about you. You have to come by and wrestle with her. All right. She keeps saying, where's Uncle Matt? All right. I'm undefeated since 97 against little kids. He's going to bring a pizza next time.

You have no clue what she's done. She's vicious. It's time to wrestle. She's vicious now. But man, now you have a new secret move. You've got the pizza. That's that. All right, man.

Thank you. All right. There goes. There goes. It just locked the door behind you. lock us in and set the claymore set the claymore taking out the legs let's go to another call uh watcher who walkeder that's my uh that's my that's my company name actually oh i'm sorry go ahead caller my name's jonathan actually um it's great uh see you have the a team in there

tonight. Just wanted to give a big shout out to Jay Goulinello. My wife is a huge fan of yours, and because of you, our lives have changed for the better health-wise. So big hats off to you, man. We're really big fans and just love here and everything you offer humanity. So, but I just wanted to touch on the cigarette thing that you had mentioned earlier. And I wanted to bring up kind of an extreme example, but my Nana, who we, you know, we called Nana, my grandma, mother. She had polio. She was diagnosed with polio at like 14 years old and she lived until she was 77 years old. And let me tell you, this woman was not in good health. She walked with two canes, you know, constantly broke bones from falling and just, you know, she had a rough life health-wise,

but she smoked Winston 100s back to back to back. And I just kind of wanted to bring up. You know, there's these, sometimes you just come across these old cods that have been smoking cigarettes back to back their whole life and it just doesn't affect them. And I just want to know what your thoughts might be on that, Jay, and how like people like that who may not even live healthy lifestyles can like go this entire life of smoking cigarettes and it just have no effect on them. Yeah. And that's a great question. People ask that all the time. And a lot of the times I hear that is like a sort of an excuse for people to do whatever they want in any area of their life because they're like, well, you know, you got to go sometime. I always say two different things.

One is we never know how long the person would have lived had they not smoked, right? So that's like an unknowable variable, right? George Burns will still be alive. It's possible. He'd be 175 years old. Right, right. Yeah, it's possible. But, you know, the other thing is we have accumulated, and this is the real thing.

theory of aging and disease and longevity is this sort of like allostatic load. We are, we are accumulating damage over time. And so smoking cigarettes back, so what year was your Nana born? Do you remember? Roughly? Oh, I would say, I think in the 40s, she was born. Okay. So there was significantly, you know, it was a significantly different time. So we had, definitely, we had better nutrition. And we, we hadn't had that, we were still 30 years. years away from the introduction of the low-fat dietary guidelines. So, like, I look at things in a holistic way. So I would never say smoking, I will say some people are more susceptible to the damage from cigarette smoke, because essentially what cigarette smoke causes is oxidative stress at a pace

where the body can no longer triage the damage. So if you have other areas of your life where, you know, there's less damage coming in from the food, coming in from the air, from the environment, etc., the cigarettes are going to affect you less over time. They're still going to affect you. You just may not have the observable damage that somebody else may have from cigarette smoke. So it's really, it's really complicated. And it is really a great question. I always do think that a person's life probably would have been better without, you know, without the cigarette smoking, even if it wasn't the cigarette smoking that actually gave them a premature death, if that makes sense. Right. Yeah, absolutely. It's fascinating. Absolutely. And to compound,

know, we found out not too long ago that when she was diagnosed with polio, she was living on a farm and they regularly took baths in the river because I know that, you know, how they were starting to tie all those things together. I thought that was an interesting note to throw on top there. But once again, a huge fan of yours, Jay, and we just love you, Frank Ops, obviously. And thank you for all you guys do. It's great to talk to you. Well, great. I hope you and, first of all, call in again soon, and I hope that you and your wife come out to a jamboree one day.

Yeah, I want to hear more stories about, you know, the kinds of things that you guys are changing because it, you know, sometimes sitting behind a microphone and we're putting out things on social media. You know, it's hard to directly connect with people who are taking your advice. And so I just really appreciate it, and I'm glad you guys are doing well. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Great to talk to you all. Have a wonderful evening, gentlemen. Take care. Well, be well. Man, I hope they do come out because I love talking to people like that. Yeah.

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There's nothing more stressful than I'm starting a new. diet. Don't do that. Don't start a new diet. Change your mindset. That's what we need to do. You know, one of these days we should give away a pantry purge. Like, quite frankly, send me out to somebody's pantry and just revamp their kitchen. Yo. Dude. Yeah. I've made jokes about that. Wait a second. No, no, no, no. That is incredible. Imagine what we can do. We get a sponsor for that. Yeah. We get a sponsor for that for this one thing where somebody wins a pantry, a Jay Glello pantry purge and the sponsorship would be able to cover your flight out to somebody's house in the United States where you then get dismembered and killed.

Yes. And we need an insurance policy. I know. No, seriously. Seriously. That would be awesome. Yeah. I would love to do that.

If somebody, we could find a way to run that contest and you go to somebody's house in the country and you just, you just empty out there. And obviously we film it for the show and, you know, it becomes a segment and. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to send like one crew with you or something or one,

or you get to film it yourself. Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, I've made jokes about that on some of the lives that we do at HRP, you know, that I'm going to come out to your house and I'm going to,

you know, I don't know. I think it would be something, you know, trying new things. That would be awesome. I like that. Yeah.

Okay, well, we'll talk about it. And I'll teach you how to make a carnivore pizza while I'm out there. Now that it's been, now that it's been spoken. It's going to happen. Yeah. Okay, here we go. Easter, the east west to west. We said that say no to smoking.

Jay Brits, we did this to the, okay, down to the bottom. Taser face says, Lava Lamp Love. Yes, lava lamp, love it. That's a great name. It is. Troy Man says, keep up the good work, gentlemen. Happy Hanukkah.

He's trying to win. Oh, I see. Joe Martinez, thank you so much. Shotsie says, good evening, gentlemen, hoping to win some silver and gold. Silver and gold. Haywood over on Rumble, says Frank, Matt, and Jay are like the three stooges without the gratuitous violence. Somebody slap someone, damn it. You don't see it behind the scenes.

I know. I know. Jay Semo says, hey, Matt, Jay and Frank, excellent show. Heywood again, says, I caught her. from laying down on the quite frankly tanning bed. So I think that you owe me that silver and gold. I told, oh,

what was that the, I said something about the tanning bed. There was an outbreak of something. Oh no. It was in one of the old, the old intermission videos. Shit. Skabies?

I don't know. Could have been that. Doesn't, doesn't matter anymore. Waltz-V. says, what a great night to have an Italian pizza chef. Slapier.

butt cheeks. Have a great weekend, Franklis. See you in the morning. Oh, I love Friday morning streams. I really do. I can't wait for 10.30 tomorrow. On almost all the old, all the regular places, pilled by frankly.tv, Rumble, YouTube.

And I even pull Instagram live into that on Friday mornings. Oh, nice. It's just reels, reading the chat room, Q&A, coffee, and it's a lot of fun. That's never, never last more than

an hour. It's just, it's, it's tight. It's great. We do, we, we do our Q&As every Thursday night and we always do them right up to 7 o'clock. And it's the same thing. They always fly by. They're a lot of fun, especially when everybody's active in there. And it's, it's, it's a blast. Over on Badlands, wonderful, wonderful group of people on Badlands tonight, G. Fontez says, think about the people born from 90 to 95 years ago that lived through two world wars, the Great Depression, the Spanish flu and Spanish American War, all before they were 40. had automobiles and electricity, and the Federal Reserve was created. Income taxes were made law.

The IRS was created. Women were given the 19th Amendment, and something they already could do at least since they were 50. Wait, wait, for something they could already do at least since the 15th Amendment. Yes, but there's one thing you're not remembering here. The World Wars were transformative. World War II was a lot more transformative for the United States than it was than World War I was. no doubt about when you talk about the mechanization of warfare in 1914 and what that did to Europe, the impact of the war and that kind of death toll from those two conflicts alone,

that's enough to say, holy shit, I live through two world wars. But you've got to remember something else. The Great Depression, which of course was largely tied in with the Federal Reserve. Nobody really understood what the Federal Reserve was going to was going to bring. No. You know, the income taxes, they were sold as temporary. They don't know. They wouldn't know how permanent that was going to be for a while.

Women being given the right to vote, feminism, all the other stuff, you think about automobiles and electricity, those are really great thing. But those are things that are like, wow, those are things that perk you up when you think about really big, big stuff, but there's a lot of stuff that started around there that wasn't kinetic, that was subtle, that we then, over the course of three or four generations later, then you start really, the chickens coming home to roost. Sure. You know, as far as the central banking goes, the chickens have come home to roost. You know, here we are $40 trillion later.

You know, the bubbles that are bursting or that people are trying to avoid. the bursting of the bubble to try to transition into something before, you know, people really feel the pain. This was not to say that millennials are unique in some way where, you know, nothing happened to any other generation. Obviously, the 60s were very explosive. But it's more so like this, the last 25 years or so, the last 25 to 40 years or so, seems like the chickens, have come home to roost in big ways. All the things that were, all the seeds that were being planted

in the early 20th century and throughout the mid-20th century, it seems that it's bearing fruit now and the fruit is rotten. That's more so what I guess I'm saying. Yeah. You know, um, anyway, there's that.

It's so good. So good. Okay. Uh, you know what? We're going to get ready. Hold on. Jeff Lamb says I absolutely can't stand the AI commercials. Thank you. They drive me crazy.

I know. American Girl says, Hi, Frank and Jay and Matt, sorry I had to lurk while caring for my parents, but I'm listening and enjoying every show. Thank you. Well, you are... Lurking is allowed.

You are fine. You are fine. Let me put Jeff American Girl and Jeff Lamb in there as well with everybody else. Okay. on on pilled vesper AC Corey safety net put me in for the draw Stephen and Lori having pluck on our chicken for dinner enjoying a few laughs with Frank and company drooling over them prizes I love I love pluck

J.R at the lake Swickley says my testosterone is throbbing right now congratulations let's see here I am a full you know I'm so excited to go and watch the big Lebowski again. It's a great movie. After last night's show. It's been forever since I've watched that.

I can't wait to watch it this weekend. I'm going to watch, I'll watch it sometime this weekend. I'm going to get myself a chicken mesklin wrap. It's got Gorgonzola and red onions in there. So good. I want to try the pluck brain seasoning. It's coming in. They sent me two things.

I said, listen, Jay and I would like to do another live stream from my kitchen with the cinnamon brain. seasoning. Oh, we're going to make a breakfast for you guys and we're going to include the cinnamon brain season. It's probably at the PO box right now. I haven't been to the PO box all week. I'll probably go there tomorrow. Very excited. So I'll tell you, hey, I got the brains. And you've already had brains because you've had the signal shake. Yes. So you're all set. Right. You know, the best shakes are the ones that hide the stuff without you even knowing it. That reminds me, the very first retreat. I think I told this story a long time ago, the very first retreat we ever ran,

And the last, like the sort of closing ceremonies, I was going through the list of all the things people tried that weekend. I was like, you guys are amazing. You've tried, you know, heart. You've tried liver. You tried tongue. And then like somebody in the audience was like, excuse me. When did we try tongue? And I was like, oh, that was in your breakfast eggs this morning.

And she was like, oh, okay. It was just really, really funny because she was so innocent and really had no idea. And I was like, but isn't that amazing that? that Nick is so good at what he does and Anthony is so good at what they do that they can put organs into your breakfast hash and you're like, I didn't even know I had that. Lauren, Lauren just texted me,

she said, what about cinnamon brain buns? Oh, I mean, I'm telling you, Lauren, we're going to have to plan what we're going to try because, like, we could do something as simple as just, I mean, have you ever had scrambled eggs with sea salt and cinnamon? Like, that's one of my favorite ways to have scrambled eggs.

If you have that with, like, beef bacon or some kind of like maple sausage, that's a great thing. But, I mean, we could actually try some baking as well, Lawrence. I mean, I'm down to try a couple things. Lauren's sister makes, she is a sourdough baker. I know. And incredible stuff.

She baked everything that was, that was bakeable over here for the VIP night. And her cinnamon buns, which of course are all sourdough, it's not even fucking fair. Well. How amazing they are. And obviously, it's still a cinnamon bun. So, but I can't, if I had a little, maybe the brains would be on top. Lauren, this is what we'll do. I'll, I'll come up with a simple recipe and we'll do like something that has like,

maybe a combination of like, you know, actually, I've been working a lot lately with three different ingredients to replace regular flowers. I've been working with butter powder and whole milk powder. So it's just basically dehydrated milk or dehydrated butter. And let me tell you, I've almost gotten perfect like hamburger buns. So I bet that we could turn those things into, because they can be sweet or savory just depending on the batter. So if we added a little bit of alilose and then some of that cinnamon brain seasoning,

I bet we could make like a cinnamon bun, you know, breakfast thing. So Lauren, we're going to, I'm going to bring over some tools and we're going to try that on a Sunday morning. And if it fails, you're all going to get to witness it fail. And if it succeeds, you're all going to get to witness it succeed. That's half the fun of doing this. Well, okay. So we'll do it.

Then that's exactly what it's going to be. That's dream. Perfect. We know what we're going to do now. We do. Cinnamon brain buns. I'll bring some beef bacon, then just in case everything fails, there's always some beef bacon to have. Okay.

A little bit more over here. Tommy Jekyll Hay. Vesper says still love that first hit of, the first hit smell when people used to match a light to their cigarette. Oh, yeah. Sulfur. Yeah. Sean Joe, Homegoy,

research Dexmoksin, and Reesigar, both on Amazon, more natural OTC version of Chan ticks to quit nicotine. Yeah, chantix used to give people horrible nightmares.

Yeah. When we were filling it at the pharmacy, I remember that. They were trying to quit smoking. And I used to read all of the adverse, the side effect labels. I was like, holy shit.

You hear hearing voices, suicidal tendencies. Well, at least I quit smoking. Yeah. Yeah, no thanks. You know? I'm just going to get them some knickknacks. The Sentinel says so many things, but here are some early ones around Y2K.

The Euro became the common currency of Europe, the 2000 president's election, settled by SCOTUS, and JFK Jr. dies in a plane wreck. Hillary runs for Senate and wins. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we didn't even get into 2001. You know, 2001. That's crazy. Just your Y2K.

And Lynn, thank you. Blue N-D-N-N-N-Now. Tommy Jekyll, Twisted Six, Willie's Fix-I. I got you all in there. Joseph 777, Silly Boar, Amethus Cat. You guys are all in there. I've been typing away.

I'll read more of your stuff on the flip side. We're going to start that in a few minutes. I have to, I have a few requests for Jada to do. Team Smooth says just a little tip from over there on Badly. Lens. Thank you, Team Smooth. You are in as well. And that's that.

Anner, if Jay does that pantry thing, you've got to call it pantry raid. Aha. Like panty raid. That's it. That's good. That's pretty good.

Anna, that you have to give her credit. All right. It'll be a segment that we do. Wow. Pantry raid. That would be, I can see that getting some some like DIY channel funding from a sponsor because we got to send you out someplace.

You have to be there for a few days. And you would have to have a cameraman because you can't think about that. No, yeah. We'd have to have like a very minimal, but I'd probably have to have a little bit of a couple of people. I don't think it would be that hard to do. I feel like we could make that happen. In fact, that should be the name of your YouTube channel is Pantry Raid. And it's, you know, you.

Dude, I'm telling you, a traveling clinical nutritionist who just tears apart a person's house. It ruined your life forever. It teaches you how to read nutrition labels. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything like that on YouTube right now. We probably just gave somebody an idea that they're going to steal. Yeah, that's right. They'll know.

I'll go see if that's out there. Yeah. We'll do some market research. Okay, Waltz-V. What a great night to have an Italian pizza chef. Oh, we did that before. Okay. So I got everybody here.

Guys, no more. Hey, let me, can I add one other twist that I forgot to add about the Michael Jackson thing? Yes. One of the first, because Brooklyn just texted me something, and I think that was very, she said, Michael had recently done a press conference throwing the industry elite under the bus, Tommy Motola, and those guys did not long after. They paid the doctor a lot of money to take the fall. So that I agree. Here's the other weird thing that came to my mind when I was putting all this together.

And I never knew this. I think Michael Jackson had had a long term, like from when he was a kid, like head of his security, right? Who retired soon, like a couple of years maybe before he died. I can't remember exactly when. But the guy who became his chief of security, his name is Fahim Muhammad. He was also one of the first people on scene when Jackson was found unresponsive. Okay, fine. After, now again, this could just be a coincidence, but it's an interesting connection.

you know, Jackson's death, he went on to become chief of security for P. Diddy. So again, you know, that could just be because he was a celebrity security guy. But from what I remember reading about this guy, he didn't really have a lot of, a lot of background in security. And what I was starting to believe as I was reading things, it was like, wow, if you wanted to, you know, just like go with me on this, if you wanted to find somebody on the inside that knew every place you were, who would it be? It would be the head of security. They need to know everything, everywhere you're going to be, everything that you're doing.

And so I just thought it was interesting that he was a relatively new head of security. He was one of the first people unseen and then he goes over and becomes- Yeah, but he wasn't administering the Propa-Fault to put him to sleep. No, I know, I know. But it's just interesting. It's just an interesting connection. You know, so it was just one other. I just had a night where I was going through all those things and I was like, wow.

And I'm definitely going to watch those. You're going to love razor-fist stuff. Yeah. You go home tonight and whatever the hell you're doing, just let them play through. They're really fantastic. Brooklyn actually texted me as well. She texted me a picture of Capri Magenta 120s super slims. So I guess they're like Cruella DeVille cigarettes or something like that.

Well, Brooklyn. No more of those. Those are not. They were not on this thing here. Yeah. Lauren said, hey, you can start a pantry raid with our house. We can be the first episode. Well, I mean, I've come over to help you cook at least.

No, you guys don't really need much of a pantry rate because we've been working together for years now. I have to imagine that that would be, it's got to be somewhat uneventful. I mean, we have, it's taking us, like you said, don't call it a diet. Don't just wake up the next day and have everything changed. It took us a little while, but even little, like little micro details, like the mayonnaise we use. Yeah, I remember that. You know, down to, you know, if we're going to have a potato chip, which one's it

going to be? Yeah. Little things like that. So I think it would actually be quite uneventful. Now, if you were in my mom's house. Oh. Which she's watching right now, no doubt. Hi, mom.

If you did a pantry raid in my mom's house, she. Oh, that challenge. She wouldn't, she doesn't. So now, so like, if this was a reality show, what you would see is like, you know, you'd have like somebody throwing a tantrum and I would be like, shut down, take it, you know,

like that they would have, all this mock drama and everything. Actually, and I got to give my mother credit though, because she's actually, you know, from when I started, you know,

nudging her to, hey, you know, make some changes here and there or whatever. Or when you guys spoke. And she said, talk to Jay, ask them some questions sometime.

She really does make a conscious effort to, to try to find things that are, are clean and, and, you know, hey, is there any sugar in this? You know, what about the? So she does make a conscious effort. It's a process.

And, you know, what you said label reading, that is an art. That is an art because, I mean, I don't think people realize that sugar, at least last time I checked, had like 51 different names. And they do that, obviously, intentionally, because they know it's pretty easy to turn over a package and go, oh, look, you know, 26 grams of added sugar. Probably not a great choice. But when they, you know, when they call it Florida, crystals. You're like, oh, that's nice.

You know, it's like, yeah, not really. Florida crystals. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you can't, you need to learn the art. And then you just get used to it, right? Like, when I, if you ever went grocery shopping with me and I was, and I was picking up something that I didn't know what it was. Yeah. You always see this. Like, I always say, like, make sure you get in the habit of turning the wrist. Like, you pick up the package, but what's on the front, meaningless. Turn it over. That's, that's what matters. So like if you just get used to turning that wrist over in the supermarket and making sure.

And even some brands that you buy regularly, if they have a different flavor of something, sometimes they'll sneak something in there that's not so good. And you trust the brand, but it's like, oh, that one flavor, they decided to add, you know, seed oils to that one particular flavor. And so it's just joy that flavor. I love that Boulder. I love Boulder Canyon potato chips we're saying. And we actually serve some over here for the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

VIP night because that the original Boulder Canyon chips they it's just it's potatoes and avocado oil and a little bit of sea salt yeah so if you're going to have a couple of those if you if you just want that crunch I mean they're they're buttery they're awesome tasting and there's only these these three clean ingredients in there if one day one day Lauren by accident which was a happy accident because I love jalapeno chips I like spiked shit. She one day a couple years ago, right after we found this, this thing, she grabbed a jalapeno chip bag. And when she realized that when she got home, she goes, ah, got the jalapeno by accident. I said, that's fine by me. You know, throw it over. So, you know, I opened it

up. I wanted to see what it tastes like. Took the first bite, all the good chip. I turned it over just by adding jalapid, like what? Pepper powder? Like what the hell do you have to do to make this chip spicy? Powder, like shake it up with some pepper. I don't understand. There's a seed oil or something else.

I know. How can you have the other one be only three ingredients, avocado oil and sea salt and potatoes? And then just to make it a little bit spicy, just sprinkle it with some fucking pepper. What the hell? I'm telling you, man. I have no proof of this, but based on what I know about the industry and based on what I know about the financial side and the sort of the profit margins, what I think happens is that they'll put out one product because people don't, they don't read.

And they find one brand, which you think you can hang on to. And then they add that stuff to other brands because it does cut the cost of the other version. So they have one clean one that they can advertise. So a lot of people who like to eat clean and they know that's a big movement. in the world right now. And I was talking to you earlier about that, you know, that, that recent Brownstone Institute survey that was, that like blew me away. I was like, yeah, people really want health in this country. And so the companies go great. Either they'll start with a product that's made with coconut oil and et cetera. And then once it becomes a little popular and

the name gets out there, then they'll cut cost and they'll change to a seed oil. Or they make one of their like plain versions that's clean. And then the flavored versions will have a bunch of crap. Because again, it just saves them money. So it's almost, almost like Walmart, how they can sell a TV in some cases at below cost, and they'll take a hit on that because they know they don't sell a high volume of those, but they make a ton of money on the little teeny knick-knack at the register because it's marked up 400% in a higher volume. I think that's what's happening. You know, that makes perfect sense.

It's unfortunate. Yeah. So, you know, they have the one clean product that's essentially subsidized. Yeah, by the other ones. buy all the nasty products that people want more of. Yeah, again, I have no proof of that, but it's a perfect business model. It could be. It could be.

I mean, I always thought that was like there's got, like with the McDonald's dollar menu, you can say, well, what does it really take to make a regular McDonald's cheeseburger? A dollar menu cheeseburger, single patty, you know, what does it really take? You know, the ingredients of that bun, the ingredients of the meat, what's the quality of the where'd you get it on a discount, you know? So obviously there's already a cost of the materials that has to be lower to be allowed, to allow for this dollar menu to even exist.

But then also you have to think that, well, there's got to just be other items on the, on the menu that are subsidizing that and making it possible. It has to be. So it's probably two things for, for in the instance of, I always thought about that. How the hell can you even make it happen? I mean, you're a gigantic corporation. There's also that you can probably just,

you're not even taking one on the chin. No. People are just eating it in so many, so much quantities. And there's probably add-ons there too. Yeah. Dollar menu is usually add-ons. Absolutely.

I don't even think the dollar menu is a dollar menu anymore, right? Is it true? I think so. I think it's changed. Panera. I think Panera just added a dollar menu. Hold on. That makes me worried.

Panera bread, dollar menu. Let me see if I saw that for real. Okay. Panera bread, first value menu, let's guess mix and match a meal of up to 10 Panera favorites for just $4.99 each. Okay, $4.99 each. $5 is a new $1. So, I mean, I guess. Seriously. I guess so. I know, I haven't seen a Panera in a while. Like I said, I'm still looking for an Atlanta bread company so I can get one of those damn chowder or chili bowls bread bowls get a sourdough that is that is hollowed out and filled with chili oh yeah there was a place and i can't remember the name of there was a place that i used to eat every once in a while in college that was right next to berkeley and it was uh under it was like

the bottom of the tower records i'm talking like you'd have any idea what i'm talking about this is anybody who knew boston in the 1990s um i can't remember the name of it but they had this like wild rice chicken soup that I would eat on some of those cold Boston days where the wind is whipping through the buildings and it's like five degrees outside. I wish I could remember the name of the place, but it was like this little hole in the wall and you literally just sat up against a wall. Like the only seating if you wanted to sit there and eat, which, you know, I did sometimes. You're just like phasing a brick wall and I just remember sitting there like freezing cold, eating soup in college. But it was really good and I just can't remember the name of the place.

It'll come to you in the flip side. It well, yeah. All right, everybody. click through to Jay's website, get in touch with them, and over there, health reclamationproject.com for all the reasons why I said before. And just change your outlook on life and food and health. And we're not done. Come over to the flip side. We got big news. The link is in the description.

We have some really interesting news to tell you. If you can't find a link, you can just go to quite frankly. TV and press play. But let's see who actually wins a month with Jay. And also some gold and silver and a portrait and a book from Jane Barlow. Let's see who it is out of 184 submissions. Jay, drum roll. And bingo.

Nathan W. Nathan W. Nathan, Nathan. Nathan. Congratulations. Congratulations, Nathan. Congratulations. And don't worry.

We're going to have more of it because guess what? I've got silver to give away all week. Wow. And I got more. Is that like a million dollars yet? No, not yet. Close. Not yet.

Just hold on to it. There'll be more silver, more gold next week. Don't worry about it. And we'll see tomorrow morning, 10.30 a.m. for our B-Sides chat. And ST, you were included in there. My favorite fellows, it's a trifecta. Yes, it was.

Thank you again, Matt, for being here. bad lands for hanging out with us. We're not done. Head over to the flip side. We will see you there. I'll catch you on the flip side. Oh, yes. Thank you, everybody. I put the link in the chat room once again. It's been a wonderful week with you. Thank you for bearing through it.

And I'll see you tomorrow, 10.30 a.m. And tomorrow night is going to be Film Club Watch Party, Sherlock Holmes, 2009, with Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law. You're going to love it. You're going to love it, so check all of your members-only platforms tomorrow for that private link. It'll be there by midday. Take care, everyone. Good night. A kitty cat.

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