Badlands Media - Quite Frankly Ep. 60: Fauci's Diary, the Rand Paul Hearing & AIDS Revisited

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

Description: Frankie Val and co-host Jay open by reflecting on nearly 20 years of Thursday broadcasts, then get into a night billed as psyop central. First up: Anthony Fauci's newly surfaced pandemic diary, where the running theme is not global health but how many magazine profiles, cupcakes, and bobbleheads featured him. Frankie reads the entries, Jay talks about doing biochemistry grad work while the world burned, and they walk through this week's Rand Paul hearing where Fauci pleaded the Fifth. They dig into declassified DARPA documents on early COVID treatments, Trump's stubborn Operation Warp Speed victory laps, and what happens if Ron Johnson's efficacy hearing lands next. The back half turns to a much harder pill: a revisionist look at the origins of the AIDS diagnosis, the Bangui symptom definition in Africa, House of Numbers, and the AZT dosing story. Be warned, this segment challenges the official HIV narrative and leans heavily on fringe sources, so bring your salt shaker.

The Badlands, one of the badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of their name. The Thursday, another Thursday, and a long line of Thursdays for 20 years. Because even when it was just the Zerals of New York days between 2006 and 2010-ish or something like that, 2011, that was on Tuesday and Thursday nights. It wasn't every night. So Tuesdays and Thursdays, that is a long, practically. a long unbroken chain.

Obviously there are holidays, there are rare vacations, sometimes a cold here and there, gastroenteritis. When I called into the show where Anthony and Mike were hosting without me because I couldn't kept crapping my pants. That was in 2010. You ever have gastroenteritis, Jay? Can't say that I have.

Why not? I don't know why. It's probably because you're not adventurous enough. Oh, that's definitely it. That's definitely it. You know, I just realized your shirt says MK Ultra. From this far across the room, I thought it was a Metallica shirt. So that's very well done.

Thank you. It was very well done. Thank you. It was a gift from the audience. I love it. And, you know, there is, we're not going to be talking about MK Ultra tonight, but we have a couple of, it is going to be Sciop Central, media sciop central.

And it is all based on what the hell. I mean, I know that you had some stuff that you wanted to talk about, regarding Rand Paul, COVID Anthony Fauci's stuff about, you know, last week prior to this week's hearings. Yeah, the day after that, or close to the day when these were dropped, I found in just a few documents I had a chance to look at, I just found like bombshell after bombshell. And it's not bombshell in the sense that the audience wouldn't know this stuff, but to see it on DARPA declassified documentation, things we've been arguing about for, what year is it? You know, six years? It's amazing. Well, there's a lot of other things.

Just from a character, a character profile standpoint, the, the, this so-called diary that he was writing to himself. Yeah. I mean, it was available. I'm a narcissist. So that's the whole thing. It was this, people were asking, where did this diary come from? Well, it was written on, and it was hosted on several government servers.

Right. So it was just sequestered. and but it's still just, it's just crazy. I don't think that everything he was writing he had to write. I understand that like when you're in the field, if you're in combat, there are combat journals. There are things that have to be logged

just strategically and everything else. You just, there are things you have to lie. The shit that Fauci is writing to himself or about himself is just. I was going to say about himself. Yes. I don't know.

Doesn't that give you a window into, you think about, like I put myself in his position, say I'm in charge of essentially the global response to the greatest health crisis in any of our lifetimes. I can't even imagine the, like, the beard that I would grow because of the lack, you know, like every, just the person I am, every moment, every waking moment would be poured into doing what I could to,

you know, solve this, this catastrophe on the planet. If, you know, if you're under the impression, that that's what's going on. Yet in his diary, I was just struck by the fact that it seemed like all he cared about was himself and his, how many celebrities were talking about him and how many cupcakes he appeared on and how many bobbleheads were made of him. I mean, I don't even, they need a new word for the narcissistic megalomaniac, whatever. It's unreal. He wasn't thinking about the, it was like we were an afterthought. Meanwhile, you know, lowly scientific pawns like myself who were studying, I was in grad school and all this broke out. So I'm,

you know, taking a class on biochemistry by day and then at night trying to solve, you know, coronavirus myself, naively thinking that that science was what was actually being utilized here, right? Of course, now we know that that was not the case. But he had so focused on himself and so little focus in that diary on anything that had to do with, unless it was to obfuscate, right, or find a way to shift people's attention into some other area because, you know, we have to raise this email. We have to make sure that this set of, of epidemiology fringe epidemiologists are somehow, you know, downgraded and he fights with Trump saying, ah, you know, Twitter backs me instead of Trump. It's like, it was just the weirdest collection of insanity I've ever seen.

Just a little bit of this. Kennecoa, the Great, put a lot of this together. Rand Paul compiled a lot of it together as well. Here's just a little bit from May 21st, 2020. So he's logging global deaths, new deaths, global maybe infections, and then also deaths in general. USA 1930. Big front page article about me appeared in the Washington Post.

Very flattering. You know, it's, you see things like that. You know, right? The situation with my national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable person in the world. Countless profiles on me in multiple media. Good Lord. Press.

White House press conference picked up by many outlets, many print profiles and features on me. Ridiculous. Two numerous to count. they love me they really love me march 22nd 2020 it's a sunday cases continue to soar 30,000 in the u.s with 400 deaths press is going wild with me this on the same day by the way press is going wild with me front page in Washington post yesterday an op-ed by morin dought in new york times today about me and my relationship with the potus profile by peter nicholas signed me on the atlantic i mean yeah it's uh just remember this is guy that told us that he

was not political. You remember how many times he would say that? I am the science. In all those ramblings in that diary, and I just want to say in general, over the years that I paid attention to him, I didn't know who he was from a hole in the wall, other than a brief memory of him during the AIDS epidemic, which I know we're going to talk about. That's where we're going. I respect scientists because I assume, and I know the rigor that goes into at least, you know,

achieving the level that I have in science, and I know how hard I worked and how much I sacrificed for those years. So I assume anybody that achieves a certain level, naively at the time, has done an equal amount of work. So my default position for science used to be respect. Boy, that has changed significantly. You know, the letters after a name and the position that one achieves is in no relation to the amount of honest, scientific rigor one has put into a career. That is plainly obvious. And he is clearly a political actor. And he's so many things before he is a scientist, but in all the times I listen to him speak on television and in a variety of different medium where he could express himself. I never really heard him speak with any kind of scientific

rigor. I never really heard him sound like a competent scientist. He always sounded like a politician. And now we know he was just making things up off the top of his head. So I mean, so I go out of my way now to never refer to him as Dr. Fauci. I don't think he's earned that, to be perfectly honest. He never really was a clinician. So he's just an ivory. Tower academic who just fancied himself some kind of celebrity. And that's really what this tells me. Well, yeah, absolutely, because it's just more so just a bureaucrat and knows how the system works, knows how to move money around.

And freeze other people out. Absolutely. And that's the whole thing here, man. I mean, there's more here. We see here how in more of his diary entries, his journals, spoke with Bill de Blasio, mayor, convinced him. Oh, the French fry eater. You guys don't, you know, how much you know, get vaccinated. You can get these

fries and... Convinced him based on what I was saying publicly in my conversation tonight to close in New York City schools. He had already decided based on what I was saying on television. I went on to tell him that he should close the bars and restaurants in New York City. I had a similar call with Ann O'Leary

and that is let's see here. And then, of course, the staff of Gavin Newsom and California, And so that based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools. That's why everybody says, you know, oh, this was completely done federalist. The federalist approach is like, yeah, the message is out there and people are acting on orders. You could say, was there any, was there any, you know, federal pressure for the states to act this way?

No, but you have, this is, this is coming essentially from the top. And I do remember an entry where, again, I haven't been able to read all of, it, but where he came across people on campus that he said in his diary, they were violating the social distancing rules that he created out of thin air, that we now know he created out of thin air that just magically appeared.

He actually used the word they were illegally gathering. So in other words, he was under the impression, mistakenly or otherwise. His word was law. Shocking revelations in that. It just kind of gives you an insight into the, the man himself and who you all took the advice of, not you in this audience, but who the vast majority of people you were arguing with were taking advice from, a man who was, again, just lacking in scientific rigor. And, you know, the Senate hearing was a farce in a lot of ways, although I

think it did tell us a lot about the man himself. I thought it was ironic that he pled the fifth then he took the fifth, having the audacity to claim his constitutional rights, a constitution that he tried to shred for how many years. It was just, it was so maddening to watch. And I watched all of it, unfortunately. But it said more about the man than it did about the scientists. And I thought, I thought the science was, I mean, I believe he even said that he would be able to defend his position with science. He wasn't worried about, you know, inquiries after the fact. Oh, really? Oh, really? Well, that's the, that's, that's the issue here. Here is the issue. He's a mustard plug. You know, he is the mustard plug. The little, you know, the big jar of, you have the big, you know,

bottle of mustard. And right at the top, there's a little dried piece of mustard. Oh, yeah. that plugs the, and is in the way of everything of you getting to the rest of the jar. Right, you got to get rid of it usually, yeah. That's not, that's the whole, the whole thing here. You know, people begged, I remember, I don't know what the hell it was. It was just, I was interested in what you had found a week or so ago. I want to hear about that because I knew covering this hearing, like getting together and talking about the hearing, which not going to be doing, would largely be an exercise in futility.

like watching Josh Howley make Fauci squirm. That was nice. But I'm still, I still got a full belly from Trey Gowdy's pointless mic drops during Benghazi. You know, that was all, I'm still full on Trey Gowdy and things that just sound great, but end up having nothing happen.

Right. So putting an 85 year old Anthony Fauci in jail is obviously not going to fix anything, but for as instrumental as a, as a figure he wants. was going back to the AIDS crisis, which we're going to really talk about tonight, because that's what people really need to understand. The AIDS story is the COVID story. The pattern of behavior, yeah. The only thing, as we will hope to at least, you know, present here, the only thing that is truly different, aside from the name, the circumstances and all that of the stuff,

is really just the fact that we had a decentralized enough media in 2020. where everybody was not receiving the same shit that we all got from the AIDS programming from the late 80s on when it really started hitting the news, whether origin stories in Africa and monkey brains, or if it was just the gay virus or something like that, it's crazy. And that's what we're really going to do here. But he's the mustard plug for a sprawling network of spies, bureaucrats,

pharma interests, and of course news outlets that they, sponsor. Okay, that they're sponsored and that have all, they have this knee-jerk reaction to circle the wagon around a crime scene, you know, to circle the wagons around a crime scene and create insulation for an operation instead of putting heat on top of something that is being uncovered or, or whatever the hell else it is. How does this system even deal? My, that's my question here is like how does this system deal with how do you even localize the damage on anthony fouchy in any significant way if you wanted to yeah you can't localize it on him no i mean deborah burks should be in jail just as much as he should oh yeah leanna wenn on cnn should be in jail

rachel maddow and all of her colleagues should be in jail i often said you can you could not pull this off without the media you absolutely could not no way no way yeah i'm with you i mean i i i hope I know that Randall... I'm not going to look a prize horse in the mouth here. Right. We've been so starved for justice. If somebody goes to jail, I'm not going to say, well, I shouldn't. No, and we were all like, you know, the round of applause when his attorney was ejected from the hearing.

Like, that was a nice moment, too. That was nice. Because I think ultimately... Did he feel embarrassed at least? Right, right. Exactly. That's the point we're at. And I will say, not for nothing, but, you know, Anthony Fauge is 85 years old.

He's significantly less sharp than he was, even at the beginning. I mean, this all had to weigh on him in the deepest, darkest recesses of his twisted, psychopathic, and I mean that clinically, his mind, he knows what he did, right? Whether he has any guilt, that's a whole other question. But it's clear to me that the one thing that he cared about more than anything else in the world was not saving lives, it was his face on a cupcake. Meaning, and that, to him, that was everything. His reputation is everything.

He spent his entire career trying to build himself. up to be the science, which he quite literally called himself at one point, you know, TM, the science. And so if we get nothing else from this, because the rest of his life, let's be honest, is rather short. He's 85. And, and the other revelation from his diaries were that he appears to have suffered some kind of side effect from all the boosters. So the whole thing about him, oh, maybe he didn't actually take those, maybe they were saline. I'm starting to wonder if he actually started to believe his own nonsense. And he really did take those shots and really did suffer some consequences. So I don't believe his

lifespan is going to be much longer, but while he is still among us, I would like to see the one thing that he seems to have cared about most dismantled in front of him. Like, I don't want him to be able to walk down the street unacosted

verbally. You know what I mean? Like, I want everyone to know that, and that's why these documents and all these things do matter, whether he ends up in prison or not, because he only cared about his reputation, clearly, and I want that taken from him while he's still alive. Yeah. It's the one thing we can do. That's what a lot of people asked from a practical standpoint, because we know that, you know, in the hearing, what was really aimed at trying to be uncovered was NIH funding.

Right. Gain of function research, whether it was offloaded to, you know, North Carolina, then to Wuhan. Of course, Ukraine didn't come up at all, but that's always been an interesting part of the rabbit hole that has popped up in the last few years. but of course there is his public statements versus his private diary entries which all comes down to lockdowns and masking which is not scientific which at first these are the things that people forget here too I think it was in March of 2020 or April of 2020 the very latest that people asked it was one television interview or another that he was asked

about wearing masks and he said it's really not going to do much unless you're unless you're trying to you'll prevent spittle from actually droplets actually like, you know, spewing saliva. Because, you know, when you talk sometimes, you spew. And so he said if you're going to, if you want to wear a mask so you don't gleeke all over somebody, then, then fine. But other than that, it's not going to, because we already had this basic education, at least in the 90s by third grade, that a virus, any kind of airborne pathogen,

passed through a mask like a mosquito would go through a chain link fence. We got that a long time ago. And the fact that surgeons wear a mask in the surgical field not to protect themselves, but to protect the surgical field, to protect the patient. That's why a surgeon wears a mask. From not dropping a booger. Correct.

Dropping a booger into an open chest cavity. You know, that's not to be gross, but we're going to be gross tonight. And that's really it. But then, of course, by the end of this timeline, 2021, early 22, whenever the hell he was still like relevant here, he was talking about how, yes, the masks work. And if you put two or three on, it works three times as well.

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe you should try that. So again, a man of science. It just, it doesn't. And of course, the simps will say, well, you know, it's an evolving situation. And we're learning more as we go along. And we only have the information we have at a certain time.

We've got to talk about that for a moment, right? Because on cue, during the hearing, I went immediately to X because, you know, there's a few doctors on there that I mercilessly, you know, chase after because I knew exactly what they were going to do. And I actually started to question whether they're actually doctors, because I don't know any real doctors who have the amount of time to put out tweets at the rate that some of these, quote, unquote, doctors do during the hearing. But all of them came out to his defense. And that argument, Okay, well, and they keep moving the goalpost. Okay, well, he did the best he could at the time. No, absolutely not. You cannot follow that statement by then all the things we know where he actually tried to, again, to prevent other scientists from having their say. In other words, and I identified this very early on. There is a massive chasm between saying, if I don't know something,

science, the scientific method then means everything is on the table and we have to investigate everything. And I have some evidence here that shows that we did know a lot more than we were led to believe, or I should say the powers that Bean knew a lot more. But you cannot hold those two positions. If you were arguing with somebody who says, well, we didn't know. You then cannot say, oh, but we can't do this. We can't do that. We can't do this. Those two things are completely incompatible. If you don't know, everything is on the table. And that is the evidence that Anthony Fauci is not a scientist because you say, oh, you know, science was evolving. We moved at the speed of science. And yet, you see all the ways that he manipulated the media in order to force

everybody into a predetermined conclusion. So those two things cannot coexist. Not if you're a scientist. They can if you're a political hack, and that's what Tony Fauci is. Not Dr. Fauci, Tony Fauci. I see. What I learned was, let's just think about all the ridiculous, because, because Because there's also a lot that I start getting viscerally. I get visceral anger, a lot of anger. When I think about the social tolls, when I think about really disturbing, I'll always have those pictures of grandparents hugging kids through plastic bags. And when they, you know, people who are alone in their hospital rooms, they, you know, nurses blew up and tied latex gloves. together so that they can they get it'll feel like two hands were on somebody else's hand like

and um i wanted to the people who complied with that i know some people were like in survival mode and they weren't going to ever take one thing or another a shot or whatever whatever else but as far as just needing to get into this grocery store and get a bag of plums for my you know you know people they'll throw a bandana on they'll throw something on there's still a sign in this building that shows you it's okay to put on a bandana. That's like a super safe thing. Oh, yeah. I did. I had a gray bandana that I had.

It was the only thing in my glove compartment of my Toyota, of my little Toyota, and I had a gray bandana in there. There are RCTs on that. Definitely RCTs on bandanas in there. Yeah. It was one of the bandanas I used to play gigs with. And I hadn't washed it. I knew that it was, it was good.

Yeah. But, you had no, the visceral stuff there. It was the fact that if you believe in viruses, that they only really, they're more deadly if they hit you head-ons. That's why we needed all of the traffic and grocery stores to be one way. Absolutely. Makes perfect sense. You can't have two-way traffic in a aisle.

Some of the diners around here still have plastic dividers up in the diner booths. Oh, yeah. So the booths go up a little bit more. And it's like, wow. The supermarket with the plexiglass and then you'd have to go around to hand your money. Being able to take your stuff off when you sat and having to put it on when you stand up. There's a height requirement for viruses. Heat rises.

Absolutely. Why can't viruses? So it's just, it's fucking crazy in that respect. And I here's just one, one, you know, from the hearing. We'll just play this one statement from, from Rand Paul. Because, again, there's a pardon. Right. There's a blanket pardon.

Well, it's one of Biden's partings. The president, Donald Trump, went and confirmed that pardon stands. And there's no, you know, he's going to respect it, even though, you know, auto pen. It's probably not legal, but we're going to respect it. We're going to respect the president Joe Biden who got 81 million votes as well. He definitely did. So it's a blanket. So people are saying, well, what's the point of the hearing aside from just getting, getting some more, airing out some dirty laundry,

getting it out there. I guess there's a chance for process crimes. Like, you know, if he committed perjury in the middle of all these hearings, which obviously that's not happening, pleading the fifth, you know, contempt or whatever anything like that. So it's really just he was there to get beat up by a committee for a while. He looked uncomfortable, which is good. And contempt can carry jail time?

Ask Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. And as far as state. level action. Right. Who knows what state level action is going to be. I think Florida's after him right now already. That could happen. Yep.

That could happen. But here's a short clip of Rand Paul and then we can move on to some some deeper things here because this is just, this is crazy where we're going to be going tonight. And we've been there before, but I said this is the more interesting story to talk about than go through all these clips that everybody else and their mothers are doing. This dangerous research exceeded any possible benefits. ask forgiveness and pledge to help our government devise safeguards so a man-made

epidemic never happens again instead of an apology you have for years avoided responsibility regarding the lockdowns you argue that you did not personally issue every lockdown order close every school or impose every mandate but officials across the country invoked your authority to justify these decisions by the way if you didn't if you didn't already know that one of the big stories in this week of these hearings is everybody trying to figure out who the staff are behind Rand Paul is because she's so, you know, exotic looking. Did they figure it out? Everybody's doing the old like Ace Ventura Ray Finkel.

So it's like. Finkle and I know. No, no, it's more so looking at the, looking at the team photo of the dolphins. And he's like, who the hell is that? From across the room? Who the hell is that? That? That.

Who the hell is that? That's all the people are out. Oh, God, that's great. And you presented your recommendations, not as judgments open to debate, but as dictates of science itself. Your own words demonstrate that you understood the influence you exercised. On March 14th, 2020, you wrote that the task force recommendations were driven by me, yourself, Deb, and CDC. The next day you wrote that you had convinced Mayor Bill de Blasio to close the New York City School So you were involved.

That same night, Governor Gavin Newsom's chief of staff told you that the governor had decided to close California schools, bars, and restaurants after watching you on television. Presidents, governors, mayors, school boards, corporations, and Congress all bear responsibility for the decisions they made. The COVID lockdown, however, could never have been inflicted without you aiding and abetting the crime. Children lost years of education. Small businesses built up.

over a lifetime disappeared. Patients delayed cancer screenings and other medical care. Families were separated from dying relatives. Workers were ordered to accept a medical... Who the hell was that? Who is that? I said the same thing. What?

I see a shelf. I see a nice shelf. Ordeal to accept a medical procedure or lose their jobs. Worship assembly, employment, education, and travel were restricted in the name of science. Well, you did not. impose every restriction, you used your public authority to justify them. So there you. I mean, and you do have to realize because of the exchanges between the two of them in the past,

how badly he must have wanted to respond. Because you remember their exchanges. I mean, Fauci was indignant about these things. So to sit, so, so him and his lawyer obviously defies this because they knew that he couldn't even speak a word. He couldn't even tell you the color of his tie because he's, such a pathological liar that he wouldn't be able to keep his web of lies straight. So they had to use the Fifth Amendment.

But you know it must have killed him inside to just hear people relitigate all of his failures as a supposed scientific leader. So, you know, again, we're looking for small victories here. Right. That's all we got. Yeah. For now. Small victories.

Now, before we move on to the deeper history, which I just got an email, I just got a text message from Lauren, Aurora lost another tooth. How many do she have left? Well, good, good, they have to because she has teeth coming in behind them. Right, right, right, right. I'm like, shit, you get, come on. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Get some of these out. But wait a second. So Donald Trump, the president yesterday said this. And this is where I am just like, what the fuck, man? Where the hell is it?

Let me see here. I, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, It's a what the fuck moment, but it's also like this will be very interesting now. What if Ron Johnson gets his turn next? And he's supposed to August 14th, I think. See, here's the thing. Donald Trump said this. He said many more people died of COVID under Biden than under Trump.

Operation Warp Speed was a spectacular success. In fact, many say one of the most successful things ever done by an American president. No, no. I overrode Fauci on this. His ideas were crazy. Also, I said from the beginning of the vice. came from Wuhan laboratory. Listen, it goes on, continues.

He continues on this way, and it's, it's been one of those things that I just, I hated back in 2020. I, I voted for him three times. It didn't stop me, but I, I'm not, I'm not budging on this. This was not a good thing. There was other ways to get around this, to give people autonomy, to not make anybody restricted in what they can't try for the. themselves. I mean, he is, he has sponsored so many right to try initiatives and things like that.

So if you want to jump in on gene therapies and all that stuff, go right ahead. But what we were seeing at this time was we were seeing, we're seeing people's choices being severely limited. And the destruction of informed consent to know what we were actually choosing. Right. Which, and I know he was not limiting choices for people. Right. And it was behind the, like the, what you recall? It's the, what the hell of the? the infusions called. Monoclonal antibodies? Yeah, the antibodies. The monoclonal antibodies. Regeneron. Yeah. Things like that. Um, but I was just, uh, I said, well, it's a good thing that

this hearing had nothing to do with the vaccine efficacy because then you can't talk about warp speed because at that point, you're, I mean, listen, people begged Donald Trump, even during the four years in between his terms, reconsider the evidence we had early on about this shot and the toxicity of it and the problems people were having that were being ignored and thrown under the carpet brushed away. And he even started getting booed at a couple of his appearances at public appearances every time that- Stop bringing it up. I remember this. Yeah, stop bringing it up. And he insisted on taking victory laps for warp speed.

But it will be interesting. Ron Johnson gets what he wants because it will be all about efficacy of the shots. And he knows more about it than most because he's held so many private hearings with victims. I don't know. I don't know what kind of tweeting is going to be going on, what's going to be published on truth during that hearing, because this is going to go, this is going to fly in the face of every supposed victory that Warp Speed provided, which was at the very, it was called Lives Saved. How many Lives Were Saved by it? And I would say that this, was not a net positive at all. So no, that'll be interesting going forward. Now,

here's where I want to, I want to get into some, some other stuff. We got. So are we going to AIDS now? Yes. Do you mind if I just give you the, oh, from last week? Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I want to hear about this. Because I think these are super important. So this is, this was declassified and released by, and if you want these documents, there's a lot of them. And I only found, I only just look through a few and some amazing things, but go to Rand Paul's X account, and he's got the reading room hyperlinked there, and you can read all these documents for yourself. But this was a DARPA document, and I just grabbed, I mean, again, I could have read a million things, but I just wanted you to have an idea of what was being written in the year 2021. So this was from, let's see, August,

Hang on, let me just find the date. August 13th, 2021. So this is before I believe the vaccine was fully rolled out to everybody. I just remember from being at the hospital at that time. So this is from that document. Because of its now known nature, the SARS-CoV-Wuhan illness

is readily resolved with early treatment that inhibits the viral replication that spreads the spike proteins around the body, which induce a harmful, overactive immune response as the body tries to clear the spikes from the ACE2 receptors. Remember, this is a DARPA document, a declassified DARPA document. Many of the early treatment protocols ignored by the authorities work because they inhibit

viral replication or modulate the immune system to the spike proteins, which makes sense within the context of what EcoHealth Alliance was creating. Some of these treatment protocols also inhibit the action of the engineered spike protein. For instance, Ivermectin, identified as curative in April of 2020. Works throughout the way. all phases of illness because it both inhibits fibro replication and modulates the immune response. Of note, chloroquine phosphate, hydroxychloroquine, identified April 20th, April 2020 as curative, is identified in the proposal as a SARS-CoV inhibitor, as is interferon identified May 2020 as curative.

The gene encoded or mRNA vaccines work poorly because they are synthetic replications of the already synthetic SARS-cove Wuhan spike proteins and possess no other. are epitopes. Those are different binding domains where a virus could bind. The MRI instructs the cells, this is the end of it here, the MRI instructs the cells to produce synthetic copies of the SARS-CoV-Wohan synthetic spike protein directly into the bloodstream, wherein they spread and produce the same ACE2 immune storm that the recombinin vaccine does. Many doctors in the country have identified that. The symptoms of the vaccine reactions mirror the symptoms of the disease, which corroborates with the similar synthetic nature and function of the respective spike proteins.

The vaccine recipient has no defense against the bloodstream entry, but their nose protects them from the recombinant spike protein quasi-species during natural infection, basically saying you are able to mount a robust and complete immune response with natural infection, and that is precisely the reason why these vaccines work poorly. this was 2021 before any of this was rolled out. And you remember when Instagram was not allowing you to use the hashtag natural immunity? I think that's when I started to be shadow banned

because just naively, I am sitting here going through papers upon papers that were prior to 2020 talking about the robust nature of natural immunity in every infection known to man. And now we know that's all true, but this is a DARPA document months before the vaccine, I believe,

you can correct me, maybe the chat knows the date But it was, this was August 2020. At my hospital, I think we were starting to roll it out soon after that. See, and there's something else here that people, that I want to just remind people or offer up to people for consideration. If you can, you can suggest and you can put out there that warp speed or whatever, that the fast-tracking of one shot or another was going to help in some way, and it was a

strategic move that had to be made, that is categorically false from the standpoint of there was no real need to have any kind of pharmaceutical intervention for what was passing around. Nope. For the death rates, for how it was affecting people who weren't already severely, chronically hindered. The fact that, again, flu disappeared. What the hell does that tell you? There was no need for intervention at all. For whether it was, I mean, I hope that, unless you're going to tell me that warp speed just gave everybody a saline shot and it was all aroused, then okay, then we can, then that's a theory. But there was no reason for this stuff. And, and again, what was a big,

let's let this will bring us into, into AIDS now, because it was the testing that was huge. they got everybody testing with these PCR tests that were ramped. I remember the cycle learning about the cycles of how they were ramped up. Right. So that the false pot, even the New York Times at the report about it. The cycle threshold. The threshold was nuts. I forget what the how many cycles was too high and they went like five times above that.

They didn't think they're up in the 40s. And it was coming back and this is all, this is the same PCR test that was used. in the 80s. And I want to go back to something. Now, my late, great friend, Liam Schiff, wrote a book called Official Stories. And if you don't have this in your home library, you need to get it. You just got to get a paperback version. Now, Chapter 6 is like 30 pages long. It's called The Scarlet Letter. It's all about HIV and the people who packaged it and brought it to the world and what happened there. And, you know, to start off, it talks about how, essentially, the opening of chapter six,

we'll get into this on the flip side. It's pretty graphic. It sets the stage for what we have here. But the opening of chapter six is all about the laying out of the gay ghetto scene, essentially, which was very big in the cities, in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, where, and the head-spinning number of gut-destroying drugs that people were taking, not just gay people, but especially gay people

in these bath houses and everything else. They're going hogwild. And it made it into the newspapers, it finally made it into the newspapers that something was going on, something people were getting sick, in Los Angeles.

It was the first place that it made into the newspapers. And at that time, it was dubbed the gay-related immunity deficiency. Gay-related immune deficiency. Grid. Grid. but the whole point here was it wasn't gay as much as it was just chemical it was the chem sex

related aspect of things where there's so much drug interventions the antibiotics the popper wait until you see the the list of stuff that people were taking constantly it destroyed and hollowed out immune systems because as you know the immune systems in the gut jay this is a real this is a real terrain versus germ. It's a huge terrain story. Yeah. Okay. And in comes at that point, Robert Gallo, who, Robert Gallo to define what the disease was,

and it was Anthony Fauci's responsibility to define how we treat it. Okay, so now this is where, let's get down to the testing, of course, at that point. So this is creating the HIV test. This is page 97 in official stories. Gallo sold the protein mixture, P24. these on the, these for proteins and all that stuff. And then they, to Abbott Labs and they sell it as the HIV test, essentially what the PCR is. But we're going down to this other section over here called everybody's positive.

Everybody's positive, nobody is positive. And this is going to sound very familiar. A lot of this is. The HIV test is a test for proteins, those bits of cellular debris that Robert Gallo dug out of cancer cells and added to the pooled blood of 10 patients. Who knows what they are. The most important proteins from the official point of view happened to cross-react with the most ubiquitous,

read as normal and plentiful, proteins in the body, cellular proteins like myosin and actin. Or as the example of Dr. Roberto Giroldo, Roberto was working in New York Hospital, which was running HIV tests. He wondered why the test needed the patient's blood to be diluted so much before testing. blood had to be diluted 400% which meant that whatever protein was being tested for would be diluted spread out and harder to find.

Why not just test blood as is, he wondered? He didn't experiment. He got the permission of doctors in the hospital who wanted tests to run them two ways. One, according to the instructions, super diluted, and one straight without dilution. He tested about 100 samples with the following results. Everybody tested positive on HIV tests when the samples were run. straight. That is the proteins in these things are human cellular proteins. They occur in everyone. You might have more or less of them. You might have more because you're sick or a drug

user or pregnant or because you've been vaccinated or you're from a different country. But the test does not test for any particular particle and everybody knows that. And by everybody, I mean AIDS doctors because I asked them, I asked them whenever I get the chance. I asked Dr. I asked Dr. Dan Cohen about it. He's the MD who runs the Fenway, the Gay Health Center in Boston in 2003 when I was writing the AIDS debate series. Quote, I read the Elisa

test reads, the test reads blood only after being diluted 400%. But if it's undiluted blood, then everybody in the blood tests is HIV positive. He said, yes, that's the way the test works, he replied, not entirely happily. Why do people test HIV

positive? Because the bovine exposure and dogs and babies and mice. In an article in science, in 1991, researchers noted that their lab mice tested positive for HIV proteins, quote, this is surprising, they wrote, because the mice were not exposed to HIV. Well, go figure. I guess that goes for everything else in the world, too, Liam concludes. And of course, as we all know, these PCR tests were coming back positive when certain

African leaders were testing birds, papaya fruit, a cocaine. A Coke can. and of course that that guy ended up disappearing. So we have this, of course, the PCR test. We have the people who are already there. Now we have other things here. Let's go to organizations. Let's go to organizations.

Let's go to the who. The WHO. Back in 1985, the plan for Africa was rolled out. There, no tests would be needed. The World Health Organization held a meeting in Bangui. Oh, that is. The capital of a Central African Repatriate. public presided over by CDC official Joseph McCormick.

He wrote, quote, if I can get everyone at the WHO meeting in Bangway, I agree on a simple, simple definition of what, uh, to agree on a simple, single definition of what AIDS is, of what an AIDS case in Africa was, then imperfect as the definition might be, we could actually start counting the cases. From that point on, AIDS in Africa would be defined by coughing, itching, fever, diarrhea, and weight loss. Yeah, it's a set of symptoms. That could be a hundred other things. Everything. Yeah. Africans look up from their civil wars, their CIA and British intelligence sponsored strongmen, their droughts, their pestilence, and apartheids and ask, we haven't had clean water for

months and we never had enough food and you're worried about our sex lives? In the 1990s, good liberals everywhere began to wear red ribbons to encourage brown-skinned people to take drugs, get circumcised and to refrain from having dangerous sex. Meanwhile, despite massive new AIDS epidemic in Africa, otherwise known as poverty, American heterosexuals remained blissfully free of this heterosexual plague. I guess we have enough to eat and that keeps HIV at bay. By the mid-20s, the thing was starting to unravel. In 2004, the official estimates of HIV for African countries were reduced by up to 50%.

Swaziland's HIV rate fell 81% overnight. Indian estimates were similarly decreased. For decades, third world HIV estimates have been based on projections from leftover samples of blood at pregnancy clinics. These are run through one HIV test, often a rapid test. These numbers are extrapolated to entire nations. Dr. James Chin, former head of the WHO's Global HIV Statistics Unit, said, quote, they've painted themselves into a corner and now their House of Numbers

is falling apart. Oh, that's where that comes from. That's where that name comes from. You remember the documentary I was telling you about? It's called House of Numbers. So there you go. If you guys want a great documentary on this with all the key players being interviewed,

go look it out. It's on YouTube. House of Numbers, anatomy of an epidemic from 2009. It is, it will shock you and it will change the way you think about HIV and AIDS. Now that's the Who section. Okay.

And now here is the act out section. So now we have the tests. We live through that. Everybody going to testing centers, going and drive through the cars, getting your nose plunged. You know, I mean, me, that's part of the reason why I, two weeks before Aurora was born, I dropped, I fired our midwives. And because they told us, okay, well, we're going to be going to this one New York hospital. and that you can't opt out of things like vitamin K and all that other stuff. And also the fathers need to be tested as you walk through the door.

I said, okay, I'll call you right back. So I called up some Connecticut hospitals. I'll get back to you. They had waivers. They said there's no testing, nothing like that. I said, all right. Fired to midwives brought us to Connecticut and everything was all right over there. But you remember that this was one of those things where everybody, everybody swabbing their mouths.

And there were lines. Church parking lots were converted into testing centers. And there was the traffic down main roads. Remember, I worked at a hospital this time. Absolutely. No, they were doing some crazy things for us. Obviously, you know, the temperature checks and the scans and everything, for me, just to get into work every day.

Yeah. It's wild. Absolutely. Now here is now, so now we have the test is on there. The people are on there. The organizations are all the same. And now we go here, act out. If HIV testing was a marketing campaign, it was a big hit.

When the new designation HIV positive burst, the seams of the gay community, a panic erupted. Protest groups like Act Up demanded new drugs faster than ever before. A failed bone marrow suppressing immensely toxic chemotherapy, AZT, was resurrected and put through phony trial, even though 169 out of 172 people on drug trial died during that trial. A ZT was released for use in HIV positives. Okay. So now we're going to start talking about treatments that are worse than the supposed disease. AZT works by stopping cell reproduction.

It kills bone marrow, which produces blood, which you need to live. It's a super antibiotic. It destroys intestines, guts, livers, and bowels. It labeled featuring, its labeling features a skull and crossbones and said toxic by inhalation in contact with skin. in and swallowed target blood bone marrow. Nevertheless, AZT was distributed like candy to healthy HIV positives in 1,200 to 1,500 plus milligram daily doses. And although the AIDS death rate was on the decline after the introduction of AZT, everything changed. The death rate moved from 13,000 in 1986 to 42,000 per year by 1995. That's about 150,000 dead people, mostly young gay men who took

high doses. Celia Farber, one of the few AIDS journalists who tried to tell the truth about what was going on, told me this story and wrote it up for the website, see chapter notes. She was at an AIDS conference in 2008. She decided to talk to Glaxo representative. They're the company that made AZT, and she said, right to the drug rep, quote, I wanted to ask you something honestly, and it's not an accusation. I just want to know your perspective. If I were to say to you that it seems clear to us that in the late 80s that people were dying very rapidly from high dose AZT, not AIDS, but from high dose AZT. I mean 1,000 milligrams, so forth, the early years.

If I were to say that as a statement of fact that high dose of AZT was killing gay men outright in those years, would you think I was wrong? Quote, of course not. You'd be right, she said resolutely. And then came to the hammer, looking right into my eyes, not even blinking. She said, quote, Why do you think we lowered the dose? And that's what happened.

By the mid-90s, AIDS doctors finally understood that they'd killed 100,000 young gay men and stopped giving AZT as a primary treatment and radically lowered its dose down to 100 to 200 milligrams. The death rate followed suit and dropped down to close to pre-meagodose AZT levels. It's a really, really funny story, isn't it, if you're amused by mass murder. And based on what you're saying there, and if I was to take the... the action of AZT on the human body, I would say that the outcome and the deterioration of the immune system and the body itself would look very similar to what we call death by AIDS.

Yeah. Well, I mean, what we were always told was that, you know, HIV, which becomes AIDS, where at that point you're acquired immunodeficient and you have no immune system left, that once you just catch the common cold, that takes you out. Right. Because you don't even have basic defense left. It wasn't AIDS that killed you. Right.

It was anything that came along that you didn't have a defense for anymore. And so it goes on, just a little bit more on this one, because then we can just kind of wrap it all up. Now ACT is pumped into pregnant women. That's the primary market for the drug. Pregnant women who test positive on the drug that they have more miscarriages, birth defects, death than those not poison to death. Not surprising, is it? Today, the AIDS drug business rolls on, still making AZT and its many clones.

In the 1990s, they added protease drugs, which alter physiology, melt fat in the arms and face, leaving skin and bones, whittling muscle to nothing, redistributing fat into humps on the neck and back, bloating the stomach beyond proportion and making legs into toothpicks. This is what these drugs do. It even says so on the warning labels. Guys go blind, lose part of their colon. They have plastic surgeries to stuff silicone into their calves.

and under their cheekbones, it's a whole industry that rides, you know, essentially parallel to the business. Yeah. So now he goes, he's, Liam is also the one

who was covering what was happening in those, those orphanages in the, on the upper west side. Yeah. In New York City. Yeah. That they were testing black box

toxic AIDS drugs on kids who had no family crack babies, kids who were already disadvantaged, and they were being massacred. Yeah. Yeah, I think Robert F. Kennedy talked about that visiting the mass graves. And yeah, I know. Although that's actually we're at the end. Like I said, it's a long chapter. There's so much in it here.

And it's all very well resourced. You can find so much of it in the news here too. but he calls out the Anthony Fauci at the end of it all too. He does. It was, where the hell was it? Oh, here you go.

He says, let me add to that list. Tell them that they can't trust. The doctors there, because people who did this to these children in plain language or serial killers, their mass murderers from Stephen Nichols, Stephen Nicholas,

to Catherine Painter, to the people who give them the go-ahead. Anthony Fauci, David Baltimore, Robert Gallo, and the rest. But oh, you know, that's just my opinion. You can take it or leave it, if you like. On the other hand, I suppose you can't ask the 200 dead children what they think killed them. They probably would tell you the truth. It was being called HIV positive and drugged and cut and

deformed and poisoned. It's not complicated. It's just horrifying. I mean, we have the same people from Fauci to the WHO, the same faulty disputed misapplied tests, which we have clips from Carrie Mullis over here, we should just watch again. The treatment that's many more times toxic than the actual supposed disease, the alleged disease, and the media that impulsively circles the wagons around the crime scene. Yeah. And listen, I know that this one is a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow, and I think it's from the standpoint that when this was happening in the 80s, we only had Dan Rather.

We only had Walter Cronkite. Right. We only had one source. We were all making sense of it together. And we were given people to blame. We were given lifestyles and all that stuff. There was no nuance. But it's all the same.

And I know it's going to be a tough pill to swallow. But this has to be considered that it's the same. I was pulling this out in 2021. I said, guys, this seems like, this seems like AIDS. This is why I watched that documentary back during COVID, probably 21, 22, probably after I got fired from the hospitals when I started watching this. So can I jump back to COVID really? quick and read one more brief email from this selection because it applies to pregnancy.

As you had said, they were giving AZD to pregnant women. So this is from Drew Weissman, who's an MD PhD and researcher on MRNA technology. And he's sending this email dated February 8th, 2021 at 10.06 a.m. to Anthony Fauci. He writes, I wanted to alert you to some new data we've generated with our nucleoside modified MRNA LNP lipid nanoparticle vaccine. I attached a current version of the supplement requested that has all of the new data. I've been working with a maternal fetal researcher, and we observed that using a dose 100-fold higher than current vaccines and given IV, the MRNA lipid nanoparticles go to

the placenta and fetus, measured by translation of the MRI, and cause an immune response in the amniotic fluid. In non-pregnant female mice, the uterus and ovaries take up the MRNA LNA, LFETA, LRN, and translate the mRNA. That's what it's designed to do. We are repeating these studies with human doses of, with human doses levels, with human dose levels of MRI LNPs given intramuscular and waiting to release the findings until these studies are completed. So they knew on February 8th, 2021, that these things, at least at the doses they were giving, were extremely dangerous to pregnant and non-pregnant females. I just couldn't help but notice that because this is around the time then just a few months later where I start seeing all of these horrendous outcomes in my nurse population at the hospital that are taking this. Upon the recommendation of the chief medical officer at my hospital who said they're perfectly

safe for pregnant women, to which I replied with what data. And of course, eight months after this email, which of course at that time I had no idea was ever being written and they were questioning the safety and found out that it actually wasn't safe, you know, I was fired from the hospital. But I watched a client die. I watched spontaneous abortions. I watched idiopathic hypertension. I watched spontaneous autoimmune disease develop. And they knew what they were doing. They knew that this was a potential back in February. And again, I was fired in October. So yeah, I'm not saying, you know, I'm the only whistleblower here. What I'm saying is it doesn't take a genius. I mean, when I was trained in school,

I had to be worried about vitamin A toxicity for pregnant women. And these people are injecting modified RNA technology and lipid nanoparticles into pregnant women. And they're finding that in the mice trials, no, bueno. So you don't take animal research, fail miserably, and then go, well, it's probably not going to harm pregnant women. And my chief medical officer, that son of a bitch, straight-faced.

We had a town hall at the hospital. where all the nurses came in. And he said, I heard him say it to them. And I was just like looking around the room. And I'm like, do any of you? I mean, are we all insane right now? And so the nurses that were under my care, I recommended against it, only because I had no evidence to support it.

But he recommended for it. And I'm one guy. I've said this before. I'm one guy. The carnage that I saw at the hospital was statistically impossible if this was not the cause, right? It was the one thing that they were all doing. And what I watched was just unbelievable, is if I needed any more reason and rationale to sacrifice my career at the time by not taking it because that was my option. I mean, just watching what happened to these women was just unbelievable.

I'll never forget it. You know, now, I got to throw this out here. And we're not going to take an intermission because we need all the time we can get. And I want to read these super chats. Remember everybody, this is the night that I'm going to be doing a super chat raffle. And it's just one prize. One prize, it is four, quite frankly, wooden coasters that was made by our friend Colin out there in his woodworking shop. Nice felt bottoms.

Oh, nice. They're very nice. They really are. And also a 250 America copper piece and a 19. a 1982, 250 year anniversary of George Washington birthday's 50 cent piece. It's silver. So you got silver, you've got copper, and you got the four things.

We'll be drawing a name by 9 o'clock. Just letting you know, Superchats all over the place. Rumble, pilled, Twitch, quite frankly, superchat.com, YouTube, they're all going to be counted. I already have this, everything prior to today tallied up. So, but I, before we get into the super chats, I have to throw this up here. Okay. And then we can listen to Carrie Mullis.

Please. Here is something that I put aside back in April of 2025 last year. And I said, I got a, I bookmarked it just saying that I know a day would be coming where I have to bring this up because I always wanted to do a deep dive into Liam's work on this. And then, of course, here comes this hearing. I'm just like, well, the hearing itself is nonsense. Let's talk about something real. I mean, you want to talk about something that he should be prosecuted for? Something that they're, I mean, I think that a mini genocide in the 80s is something that

there's no, there's no statute of limitations on. There's no, Biden didn't pardon him for AIDS, you know? No, it only went back to 2014. I know. So I bookmarked this. Now, get a load of this because this is, this open, reopens up this wormhole between the 1980s and 2020 in a fly. This is from Futurism.com.

This is right when Bobby Kennedy is, you know, getting on to the job in 25. Man who believes Poppers, that's one of the litany. You know what? Poppers caused AIDS is planning to gut America's HIV prevention office. This could return America to the dark ages of the 1980s and 90s when the government let hundreds of thousands of people die of AIDS. Let them. It's crazy because, of course, the, the,

And the initial theory was that it was a gay bug, which is homophobic. Right, right. You know, okay. That was lacking in science. Right. That it was, okay. And it was the actual government response that did probably kill so many more people than before. And here is, and there there are dog piling on, but these are the people who will go and drink canola oil because they just to spite him.

Of course, of course. The Nepo baby in charge of America's health care as scribes to. homophobic conspiracy theories about the origins of acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, and he's purportedly planning to close the office that helps prevent its spread. According to federal health officials who spoke to CBS News, health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is slated to lay off Health and Human Services Department's entire office of infectious diseases, HIV-AIDS policy, as well as its minority health office.

I actually don't even remember if he went ahead and did it. But just the fact that this was the response is hilarious. This move comes amid a broader restructuring that will, per a recent announcement, eliminate 20,000 positions at the agency. It also comes a few weeks after the Food and Drug Administration, which is part of HHS, rated a manufacturer of amyl nitrate, the scientific name for the popular, legalish, sex and club inhalant, better known as Poppers. In a statement that's circulated on social media, Poppers Company doubles Scorpio,

announced that it was closing following the raid and said that other manufacturers also may have been impacted. Not long after RFK Jr.'s passed claims about Poppers resurfaced, which included his insistence that the inhalant causes AIDS and not per decades established medical science, the human immunodeficiency virus. Kerry Mullins may have a bone to pick with that. The initial signals of AIDS, they're saying,

is strongly, he said, is strongly linked to amylin nitrate poppers, a popular drug among promiscuous gays, the political scion wrote in a book penned by, about Anthony Fauci, the former National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Other common wasting symptoms were also associated with heavy drug use and lifestyle stressors. Guys, I mean, I was like, finally I have something to do with this article. You want to, I'll read the rest of it later on tonight, but you want to. here, now listen, just listen to this opening here, because Liam starts the whole chapter talking about the drug culture at the time. Okay. Because you can't understand the situation

without going there and just understanding the basic nature of men, women, gay men, you know, in the absence of women, what the hell they do? Let me see here. Let's see here. Hold on. Because this is one hell of a list. Give me a moment. We're going to, I think it's great because in this episode, you can go and dig further for yourself. Like I told you, there's two things that I think you should go look at. You should find House of Numbers on YouTube or anywhere.

Anatomy of an epidemic. It's an hour and a half documentary. It will change the way you think about this. And also go see the movie and the band played on, which is another document, not a documentary. It was an HBO doc-us something, they called it. But a very interesting film that kind of connects Ebola to HIV

and people like Robert Gallo and Anthony Fauci and Luke Montanier, they all play a role in that too. And the band played on House of Numbers. And then, of course, this book, and you'll really have a crash course and everything here, and you can draw your own conclusions. Well, I have something else for you here. Rev in the chat room,

he said he would like to start doing some after hours streaming for us. So after we are finished with the flip side, Rev is going about, maybe about five, less than five minutes after we end, Rev is going to start up a stream onto the quite frankly Pilled channel, and he is actually going to stream House of Numbers. Oh, wonderful. So everybody, if you come over to the flip side, you'll see the extra talk that me and Jay. After hours programming is back.

Well, it was, hey, listen, as, as often as. This is an excellent documentary. You're going to want to see it. So here it is. This is from the segment called Boys Keep Swinging. From the opening shot of freedom, he's just talking about gay men and running away from, you know, their hometowns in Iowa and Illinois and the Dakotas and coming to New York and San Francisco and just being openly out going places and just mired in orgies essentially.

Going back to Iowa was impossible. You can go all over the town being out. That was reserved for Chelsea or the village, the West Hollywood. Larry Kramer, gay activist, pro-farmah activist, playwright and, and, and, author spoke with naked candor on the fast lanes sex life and drug diet in his book of the era which he called faggots he listed 76 drugs that were used on any given weekend by the boys on the circuit here are the highlights this is right from you know an activist high and then i'm going to show you another article i was waiting for a time to dude it's all coming together it's all coming

together i said finally this show came together so quick mda mdmdm THC, PCP, STP, M-STP, DMT, L-D-K, WD-W, Coke, Window Pain, something called Window Pain, Blotter Orange, Sunshine, Sweet Pea, Sky Blue, Christmas Tree, Mescaline, Dust, Benzadrine, Dexadrine, Dexamil, Dezoxan, Dezoxan, Stricknine Ionamin Ritalin Despidol Opatol

glue Ethyl chloride Nitrous oxide Crystal methadrine Clogidol Nespirin Titch Nestex

Black Beauty Certain Prelude with B12 Oh well That sounds good Prelude and with B12 Okay Zale

Kwlude 2-0, nimbutol, secondol, amethyl, amethyl, amethyl, phenobarb, Ellaville, Valium, Librium, Darvon, Mandrax, Desnabarb, opium, Stidil, halidix, calcophon, ophthalmil, drale, and more. Do you even know what half of these are? I don't. The ones I recognize are truly mess you up chemicals. So it's not even just that. Now, he says, now, not on that list, but in wide use were drugs that we don't count as drugs. Alcohol, cigarettes. And for the boys, for the boys town, a smelly chemical called poppers. Poppers weren't even considered a drug but a party favor like beer at a game or glass of wine with dinner. These inhalant drugs came in bottles that said flammable, fatal if swallowed, on the label, but were snorted and huffed from bottles and rags all night. Why? Because they gave great rush.

They extended libido and erections far beyond boundaries of normal human fatigue. More than that, because they rendered the user insensible to pain, the muscles in the sphincter would relax. I knew you were going to go there. Taken with methamphetamines, a lot of sex was and is that was more intense, invasive, penetrating the body than anything anyone had seen and done before. It was done in groups with multiple partners and night after night after night. So you think about how a, even just a few neighborhoods that are partying this way can destroy themselves on an immune level and create a, hey, what the hell's going on in, you know, in Skid Row? There's a, there's an outbreak of something. Everybody, you know, whatever is, and they go and attack Robert F. Kennedy for just talking about poppers when there was, when, when their own activists, gay activists back in the time are being candid in their, their.

their stories about what the nightlife is like and they're going on for pages and pages of just the chemicals that they're using to get off. And then we have this. So that was futurism going after Robert F. Kennedy. Right. Now that was in April of 2025. And now here we have, where the hell are you? Hold on a second. Then we have this from spiked online.com. And this is from November of 2025. I said, oh, this will go great with that Robert

Kennedy whenever I find a reason to put it together because it's so opposite. We need to talk about chemsex. This is a, I guess, a gay writer who wants to address the fact that all of the things that Liam Schiff, that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and other people were talking about being a staple in those communities and those get-togethers and those ghettos, as they call them, a staple back then that precipitated what Robert Gallo came along and dubbed HIV AIDS. It's still happening. So here's Spike saying the LGBT lobby has been silent on one of the leading causes of

deaths among young gay men. Stonewall and the rest of the pride community are world class when it comes to running their mouths, pronouns, rainbow lanyards, the mythical transgenocide, you name it. They'll support it with hashtags, awareness days, and corporate sponsorships. If talking shite was an Olympic sport, they'd win the gold. This is written by a gay guy, by the way. But when it comes to an epidemic that actually is killing gay men, there's not a word. Silence.

I'm talking about deaths from chemsex. Yes, parties fueled by the consumption of drugs such as methamphetamine, GHB. Chemsex deaths might not be on par with AIDS epidemic of the 1990s. Yeah, because it only started it. But the danger is significant. It is growing. In London alone, the Met Police say up to three gay men a month died at ChemSex. parties. The London Ambulance Service estimated treating at least 764 men between 2021 and 23.

It is suspected that the death of as many as 1,000 men over the past decade in the UK can be linked to Kemsex. NHS figures show a surge in GHB overdoses linked to the scene and still not one glossy campaign, not even the token gesture of an awareness week, probably because they don't want to be able to face the fact that people who have been warning about this, But it takes away, it takes away a lot. It's, yeah. I'm telling you, man, sciop, every, every topic we discuss is sciop to hell and back.

Well, because I mean, you know, in these kinds of situations, you know, the, you can build, and we always talk about this, once an industry is built on a problem, whether the problem was ever being tried, you know, whether the problem was ever being honestly, um, attempted to be solved, it doesn't matter at some point, right? the cancer industry is another perfect example of that is that they won't even allow certain research to be done because you're now going to threaten the livelihood of tens of thousands of cancer doctors and cancer centers being built everywhere. And if anybody comes in with a new idea, no, we've already decided what this is.

And here's something else. And how to treat it. And here's something else to add on to everything you just said. Stonewall can stick rainbow laces on Premier League footballers, the international lesbian gay bisexual trans and intersex association can publish statements about bi-visibility day and fall over themselves for something or the other. Hashtag slogans the whole lot, but then when gay men are dropping dead every month at chemsex sessions, not a peep.

They can mobilize vast PR machines around transgenocide, but when gay men are overdosing week in, week out across Europe's capitals, nothing because it doesn't sell. It isn't hashtag friendly. It can be turned into a fun, and it can't be turned into a fundraising drive. This next line is great. He's right. And that's the heart of it. Kemsex doesn't come with a pantomime villain.

No far right, far right thug, no priest, no Tory minister, just men making destructive choices. Yeah. And this is why they go after everything in my field that I try to bring forth as potentially curative or at least preventative because there's no money to be made. You know, this is why you've got these crazy congressmen and women. raging against raw milk and all these absolutely inane things that don't actually matter because they're not actually trying to solve problems. How many times have we talked about that?

These people are not honestly trying to solve a problem and to bring it back to Anthony Fauci and COVID. I don't see evidence from his own personal diary, which he never thought would see the light of day. So that's about as honest as you're going to see this pathological liar. I never really truly saw what I would see in myself. I were in his position trying to solve the problem. He was more enamored with himself.

He was more interested in his own, you know, reflection in a cupcake than he was at solving the problem. This is the way I feel about a lot of modern, at least in my field, a lot of modern medicine is not fixated on the thing that matters, which is solving the problem. It's fixated on keeping the gates closed, keeping the conspiracy theorists at bay, and perpetuating the industries that are built upon the problem that they originally were designed to solve. That's all I see. So this is all related. It's all related to the hearings that we

are seeing today. This is what lives below the ice skating, the tap dancing that's being done here six years after COVID. But it is, it just goes to show how it really, I mean, it's a drill they had run before. Yeah. I know we talk about

event 201, but it's a drill that they had run before. But it's a drill that they had run before. that they had played out throughout the entire world for decades. And this is why it is so important to finally shed light on whatever it is, right? Whether it's the Kennedy assassination or all these people who say, what difference does it make it was X amount of years ago, right? They're even doing it with COVID. Just move on.

Absolutely not. And there's a reason because they can, why, if you play a sport and whatever it is, baseball, if you're a pitcher, football, you know, if you're running back is getting five-yard it carry, why would you ever throw the ball? If you're a pitcher, there's a hundred and five mile an hour fastball that nobody can hit, I would just throw a curveball. There's no reason to change the game until it's finally exposed. So drawing these parallels between AIDS and COVID or any other type of, you know, public health issue, whatever you want to call it, if we don't learn the lessons of the past and the past becomes like a dead language, I say this a lot about people who can like,

There's a lot of people out there who are great history buffs, and they can quote, you know, things from the Roman Empire and they can, you know, they can make you look foolish if you get into a debate with them about history because they know so many facts. But if they can't apply those facts to modern times, they've essentially learned a dead language, right? They've learned Latin. Great, great, you've learned Latin. What are you going to do with it? How do you apply these things? So that's why we go over the Kennedy assassination. That's why we cover all the things we cover to draw these comparisons from the past to the present in hopes that.

more of the public will wake up and say, hey, you know, I've seen this before. Maybe I should at least start asking questions. I'm not claiming to have the answers about this, about AIDS or all the answers about COVID. We're just saying, hey, there's a whole bunch of new information that is now present that wasn't before. And yet these Anthony Fauci defenders still run out there immediately upon the, at the moment of the hearing to defend him. And I called most of them on X. I was like, are you just illiterate? Or did you not bother to read any of this information that is now.

available to you. If you choose ignorance in the light of new information, then it is truly ignorance at this point. You have a choice. So now the choice is up to you, the public, decide what are you going to do with this information? Decide who pays the price because somebody at some point has to pay the price. I don't care how old the story is because what's old is new and that's what we're experiencing right now. You know what? We're going to open up the lines. I'm going to read through some super chats. I'm going to get everybody. these, all these names from tonight into the raffle for tonight that we're going to be doing by the end of the nine o'clock show. But I'm going to open up the lines and because I'm sure

that people are, I don't know, you got something to think about. Um, it's a sensitive topic. We're going out on a limb with a lot of this stuff, but we're only reading things that are out there. And, um, and, and, and, and wondering if this is just, did you want to play the Carrie Mullis? Oh, yeah, yeah, shit. Let's do that. Because I think that's, I think that's incredibly important for those of you don't know. Carrie Mullis is, there. He's the inventor of the PCR technology, the technology that was used to basically, you know, batten down the hatches and destroy society for three to five years. And unfortunately, he died right before COVID, months before the, quote, outbreak.

And he has some amazing things to say about both AIDS. And if you look at the PCR test itself, what you can extrapolate and what you can extrapolate from a PCR test in the vein of COVID. Okay, so here's the PCR test one. And this is back in the 80s, I believe. Yeah, well, I mean, then it makes it even more relevant. Yep. I want to ask this to carry.

It's only three minutes. How do they misuse PCR to estimate all these supposed free viral RNAs that may or may not be there? I think misused PCR is not quite, I don't think you can misuse PCR. right now the results the interpretation of it see if you if you if you if you can say if if they wanted if they could find this virus in you at all and with PCR if you do it well you can find almost anything in anybody it starts making you believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else right i mean because if you can amplify one single

molecule up to a to something that you can really measure which bCR can do then there's just Very few molecules that you don't have at least one single one of them in your body. Okay. So that could be thought of as a misuse of it just to claim that it's meaningful. But the real misuse of it is you don't need to test for HIV. You don't need to test for the other 10,000 retroviruses that are unnamed also in the subject. Somebody that's got HIV generally is going to have almost anything that you can test for because they have definitely, HIV is a fairly rare virus. There's only one million of us out of 250, 300 million people in America that have that virus.

So you have to get around, either your mother had to have it and pass it to you, or you have to really be paying a lot of attention to people that do have it, and paying only attention to them and get a pretty good chance to get it that way. It's hard to get it. But if you have it, there's a good chance. You've also got a lot of other ones because you've been in the market for you. It's been possible for you to get a lot of, to test for that one and say that has any. special meaning is what I think is the problem. Not that PCR has been misused. It's like,

it's not an estimation. It's a real, it's a really quantitative thing. It tells you something about nature and about what's there, but it, it allows you to take a very minuscule amount of anything and make it measurable and then talk about it in meetings and stuff like it is important. See, that's not a misuse. That's just sort of a misinterpretation. So I think that's a, uh, I think that's a, uh, It's non-diagnostic. It simply tells you something is present. It doesn't tell you if you're sick.

It doesn't tell you anything. And we tried to get this across during COVID, but people just would not have it because they were caught up in the hysteria and you're killing grandma. If you try to talk to a friggin' Nobel laureate who created the damn technology, oh, no, no, no, we have a PCR test. Anthony Fauci said so. The people that argued about that, you know, again, they don't present any data. It's just pure emotion.

It's pure amygdala hijacked. thinking logically, they're not thinking rationally, and they're caught up in the insanity. Well, and I would like to also put something else out there at 8.22 p.m. And that is that me personally, I wouldn't be able, if there is a virus to be isolated, I wouldn't be able to do it myself. I don't know what the hell anything is going. All I know is this. For somebody who's not a trained scientist, because there's, I know, I know the range of opinion that everybody has on what exactly. was going on in 2020. All I do know is that it was low risk, high reward for the people who were

running the show in the media, that they had a very distinct plan of what they wanted to do, how they wanted to modify American elections, that they were running numbers and they were choosing to instill nothing but fear and they were dismissing anything that would be able to allay that fear. As we saw in the Dabber document, we had curative things in 2020, early 2020. And they worked overtime to dismiss those and give anybody no hopes. So the default position was no hope, stay inside, alter the way that you go out and socialize, alter the way that you see your families and celebrate your holidays, alter everything that you do, stay inside, isolate, rethink your career, rethink education.

Celebrities in lockstep, they're all, yeah, everyone's, everyone believes it. What's wrong with you? And then, of course, the other things there, too. Like, if, if this was, I mean, maybe, people were getting sick. sure I got you know I I I had a pretty nasty flu in 2022 took two years for me to get it and then of course Aurora and Lauren and my mother got it in June all together or I had it in April they had it in June in 2020 I'm actually convinced I had it in 2018 I had the worst respiratory virus I ever had it took me about eight months to kick and that's we have so unlike me it's this is Frank Zell amazing Frank

Zell, he called in early in 2020 and said, listen, I just had this in, in, in December. Yeah. And of course, it was just a few weeks after Event 201. It was after the Wuhan military games and all that stuff. So whatever the hell it was, I just always naturally assumed that it was a low risk, high reward thing that could be magnified by the media. and of course if it was something that was really very dangerous, then A, the death rates would show that.

Oh, that's the other thing Anthony Fauci manipulated from his diary. He knew what the death rate was and he intentionally amplified it before Congress. And let's also put out there that, you know, everything that people talk about with vaccines and stuff, that is a secondary, almost like a secondary and tertiary wave. Right. Because that all really started, people really started sitting around and wondering, 2021 was the year that they got a billion people to, to take part in this, in this,

this essentially an experiment, you know, without a doubt. But in 2020, remember, that was the year of remdesivir. Yes. And that, and you think of every remdesivir and, and, and putting people out medically induced comas, a ventilation. You know, it was ventilation and remdesivir that we were seeing most of the people I know, or I heard about who lost their lives, people who lost parents and everything else, they were all ventilated and they had kidney failure for some reason.

Why were their organs failing? And then you read into remdesivir, which is, of course, tied to Anthony Fauci in a way. And you start thinking about ACTT again. And so, I mean, that's what I'm saying, like, people were getting sick. some people will, uh, will say, hey, listen, man, it's purely terrain and this was all radioactivity and EMF and stuff like that. Whatever the hell it was, even if it was a virus, they needed to be able to compound the numbers to make it worse than it was. Okay. So, again, you don't need to compile all of the flu numbers into this if there is a separate and substantial thing that's going around.

You just made me think of another email from Fauci to head of the CDC, Robert Redfield at the time. March 18th, 2020. He says, we need to link Remdesivir to a much more strict protocol as opposed to hydroxychloroquine, which is an approved drug. And although it has some adverse events, we have a ton of experience with it. I am comfortable. This is Anthony Fauci talking. I am comfortable with the hydroxychloroquine plan as discussed in the oval.

In contrast, we know much less about the unapproved drug Remdesivir. I have more concern about the potential. toxicities of this unapproved investigational drug in the context of COVID-19, as well as the need to prove that it works before we widely distributed. The bulk of the data that we have with remdesivir is an Ebola where it did not have a clear benefit. We should consider leading with hydroxychloroquine in a flexible distribution protocol. So what changed Anthony Fauci? Who greased your pockets? Because he was on the hydroxychloroquine train as well, and he had doubts about rendesivir. So this man can be bought and paid for, in my opinion, which again makes him not a scientist.

No. Okay, let's take a call. 504, you're on the air. Go ahead. Carry him all the stuff on the other side. Okay. Go ahead, 504. Thanks for taking my call.

It's Kelly. I wanted to let you know that that's how I found you. Somebody on a podcast mentioned that you had interviewed Judy McAvich. No, I didn't. No, that, Red, Zach had Judy on a lot. wasn't, I never got to speak with her. That was probably Red Pill 78. Well, she was the one that got in all kinds of trouble

because she was trying to shut Fauci down during the AIDS stuff. It's true. It's true. I'm telling you. Yeah. I mean, he went out of his way to, like, totally get her out of the business, put her in jail and all kinds of stuff. He did that quite a bit.

He was a dirty, SOB. Well, Kelly, thank you for, thank you for bringing that up. I mean, that just brings me back. I had it in 21. I got admitted I was getting chemo at the time, and I wound up getting COVID as well. I got nauseous, and they went and they brought me to the emergency room, and it was a staff infection from the port of cath where I got two doses of chemo at. So they removed that, and while I was there, I got COVID as well. I got tested positive for it.

So they isolated me, and instead of rindexamia, they gave me something called regeneron. Well, that's, I don't know if Jay heard anything about that or whatever. Sure. And then for my immunotherapy, they gave me something called infancy. And I was so paranoid that the vaccine was going to be in the insinzy that they were giving me. Because it was an IV dose too. Yeah. Well, thank you.

It was scary. It was. The regeneron while it was going around, I remember that was. That pretty good results, actually. It was. And all the monoclonal antibodies, that's what people were just, you know, hey, they're throwing that out there. I know that even, like, Joe Rogan, he said he threw the kitchen sink at his thing. And that was, that was part of it.

So it was, thank you, Kelly, much love. Just to substantiate what I had said. So in Fauci's diary, he knew the case fatality rate was 0.0.2%. 32 days later, presented to Congress, 1%, 10 times more lethal than the flu. So somewhere along the line, he decided, oh, again, who got into his pockets? Who, you know, he knew the truth in his own diary, something that he never thought would see the light of day. He wrote down the truth. And then when he went before Congress, he testified that it was a 10 times more deadly than the flu.

Again, what are we going to do about it? He's been pardoned. Nothing. Nothing. I mean, that's all nothing. That's why I say, well, okay, well, you know what, let's just make sure that everybody has a little bit of an addendum to his personal history. Yeah. And we never put a pure bureaucrat in that position for that long, right?

Because people like that can sink their teeth into all kinds of areas, I mean, he outlasted presidents. And people looked at that as a, you would see the members of Congress using that as a cudgel against anybody, you know, that would move against him because they would say, well, he's worked with every administration. Well, that's part of the problem. That's part of the problem. Yeah, that's something that doesn't go away. Motor on over there on Badlands, really awesome night to have of the Badlands, people along for this one. Says Iba Gain support has fallen flat. Vets must pay for treatment. Oh, wait, where the hell will happen? What the hell happened to the, quite frankly,

shit, where the happen? Hold on. Hold on. I was, I had to get into the, into our, there we go. Shit, where the happen? Shut up, Frank. Frank's going to just have a little battle with himself for a moment? Wait a second. Where the, damn it. I wrote down all of the super chats from Rumble. I wrote them all down, but now I clicked out, and now I'm looking for all of the I clicked out and now I can't actually read what people had sent me.

They disappeared. Rumble's awful when it comes to this shit. Let me get to the other super chats real quick. Where the hell? Oh, wait. It's over here. Oh. That's what happens when you have nine screens in front of you. I know. Annor said Frank, this is over on quite frankly Rumble. Annor said Frank. I especially love your episodes with Jay.

Cool marshmallow. Oh, rhymes with Guganello. Jay, cool marshmallow. I do make some cool marshmallows. Oh, hat tip to his homemade marshmallows. You guys are so great together, but not in a gay way. Oh, thank you. Very nice.

Jay Semo says, great show. Didn't you see us commenting on all the staffers? We're totally straight. Totally straight. Jay Semo says, great show, Jay and Frank. Snack cakes, 802 says, great content. Love you both. A new follower from Rambo's show.

Keep up the great met. I'm just, hey, listen, I love Joe Rambo. I love his show. He's got a great audience. And I'm glad that a couple of people actually followed me over here because I don't know how many people I upset whenever I show off. Is that name snack cakes or snacky cakes? I can't see it. I'm just asking.

Snack cakes. Okay. Because snacky cakes, I think, were like a South Park thing. Snacky cakes. Yeah, I like that. I like snack cakes. Nephilim says, cheers, Frank. Cheers, Jamboi.

And cheers chat. I'm running late for the show, but here's a little bit for the coconut fund. Thank you. And like I said, I have already entered you all in here. typing furiously. Dana the Powerful says, love you, Frank, and love you, Jamuga. Oh, thank you. There you go. She's a woman, Jamuga. Well, well, well, well. She is. We hope. We hope she is. All right. And Jay Brits, my favorite of Frank's recurring guest, Jay Gulenello, awesome show tonight, gents. All right. Rev says, Frank, read my Discord DM. Yes, no, that was about the after hours.

He's going to be doing that. I'm going to look forward to that in my drive home. Chris Hill says, I was once given advice by a district manager shortly before I was promoted to store manager at 22. Change your people or change your people. Simplistic with that saying that still stuck with me today. It's true. It's a good one. UPSJ says,

and J is way more than a sidekick. Aw. What was that for? Well, all these BS distractions, what's the real reason? Jay is way more than the size. No,

I don't, I don't. No, we were talking about that last time, remember? Yeah, I don't do that sidekick stuff. No,

no, no, no. But if we did get one of those Batman, uh, Batman, you know, motorcycles, you would have to go on the side car. I'm not dressing as Robin. Okay, but you... There's no way.

But you would have to go on the side car. Fine. But I'm not dressing as Robin. ST says, let's do Dallas Buyers Club for movie night, Frank. Oh, that's another good one. Oh, boy. Another very good one. Let's see.

Matthew McConaughey was excellent in that. Tooth Fairy contribution from ST. I appreciate you. ST also says, yes, AIDS 2.0. That demon made it so I couldn't see my dad when he passed away. I don't even want to talk. Within months of my mother passing away in 2020, I beyond loathe him, Satan's minion.

So awful. And then Shotsie says, sending a little Thursday support. And I appreciate it. Listen, for everybody who's watching for the first time, please make sure that you are subscribed, that you have the notifications on.

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You're not going to believe this. Not going to believe it. Gamester. And over on Pilled, let me just say real quick before we get to our, we have somebody calling in. I can't wait to bring. on because I wanted to ask, hold on, let me see it, let me get this in here.

There we go. Tommy Jekyll, Corey, Sillybor, Tommy Jekyll, Safety Net, J.R. at the lake, G.G. working it. Let me see here. Doodom Man, Flappy, Vesper, Wix Vixen, Tracer, Andrea D, Quite Stevely, Sentinel, Tommy J. Again, Cap IQ, Sto Stoostub with a big EMP. I love you, man. I really do.

Gamester and Amethystcat. You guys are all in. I will read on Pilled. I will read your messages in full on the flip side. But first, first I want to bring on a friend. We haven't spoken to her in a while. I really was curious about what she was going to say.

And I love bringing her on whenever Jay and I are together from time to time. And that is Molly Rucker of Keto Brains. Molly, how the hell you doing? Doing good. How are you guys? Doing well. Wonderful.

Yeah, we wanted to ask you about this because I don't know you, you this far back. Yep. But 2020. I mean, obviously you are, you're pretty based yourself. You don't, you march to the beat of your own drum. And I just wonder how you took in the, the 2020 experience and, and how you kind of like formed the life outside of the craziness and, and how, how you saw things developing before your eyes. Yeah. I mean, for me, you know, coming from a place where I've never had health insurance. I had hippies for parents.

So I was never, I never took a vaccine. Sorry, it just got crazy windy here. I'm sorry for that noise. It's okay. It didn't. It shined a light for me on how 99% of the population saw health.

And it wasn't new to me because I had had friends who were freaked out when they didn't have health insurance. They were raised to think that this was a life-ending thing somehow if they couldn't afford health insurance or get drugs if they needed them. And for me, at the time, I was working from home most of the time already. But I would run my mouth the way I would normally run my mouth. And it was around the same time that things started to also be more woke because I was working for a company based in LA. So I was starting to realize like just speaking my mind and being a normal human was no longer okay.

So it was around that time that I just kind of, I just kept my mouth shut and did my own thing. And the biggest thing that I saw, especially in the beginning, because at the time I was still trail running and hiking a lot, the community would be like, okay, we're not supposed to be inside. So now we're all going to go out to the hiking trails. We're all going to go down to the river. So there would be like three days where everyone was like gung ho about going outside. And they'd be outside on my trails in their masks in California out on the trail. And I just kind of was silently very confused because for me, health is about personal responsibility.

You have to do everything you can to fortify your terrain, if you will. yourself so that you are not hospitable to whatever comes around. And fortunately, our CrossFit gym stayed open and we all just worked out outside and they would check our temperature before we would come in and then go workout outside. So personally, I was just kind of like I am most of the time as a human. I'm more of a human watcher than I watch the humans more than I play with the humans. When I participate. That's just always been me.

You know, even in college, I was like, you know, I'd sit and watch the humans. I was never a good. But you were in California at the time, right? Correct. Okay. Still in Ventura. Still. So at the beginning of COVID, I was still working for a company based in, in L.A.

And that was just at the beginning. So they were still trying to figure out what they had to do legally, which ended up being a lot. And then later in COVID, I was working for another company that was a huge eye open. because all of the stuff that you hear about being hyperwoke was there. Like, your pronoun has to be on the Zoom screen. And, you know, I was joking about putting non-neurotypical up because they didn't say anything, right? You can identify as whatever you want, Molly. Yeah, exactly.

So for me, it was just a lot of head shaking. And there did come a point where the company that I was working for kind of in the middle of COVID, they were trying to mandate that you, that you, that you, get the vaccine. And we had, we had a very overweight HR person who ended up getting scolded because she said that they were going to be on the lookout for fake, fake verification cards and like saying all this crazy stuff. But my friend, who is the one investor in our company, his dad is a longtime naturopath. And he is an investor in many companies. So he has really wonderful lawyers. So he had this amazing document he gave me that should I need it, I would turn it in. And it was a completely legally binding document that required the company to basically say,

I am responsible for any and all things that could happen from this vaccine. I didn't end up having to use it. But there was never any moment where I thought, oh, I'm going to go get this vaccine. Why? I don't go to the doctor. I run my own blood test when I want them. If I'm curious about something, I go find a company that I can find information about, do some research, make a decision for myself. Why on earth it, what was at 43 at that time, however old I was, why would I for the first time in my life go and believe in an entity outside of myself and my knowledge of what health was and go put some crazy shit in my body? No. And I watched, you know, my brother who was still in Santa Barbara at the time, so many people that he considered friends and wanted to still consider friends,

it became very clear, very quickly. I don't know how to say it. It's not intelligent versus unintelligent. It's the series of events in a human being's existence that led them to the state of fear whereby this new reality was their reality. And if you were not abiding by it, there was something wrong with you. I watched him go through that with people. And then I watched my man go through. He wasn't yet retired from, he wasn't yet retired from government and military. He had to get vaccinated to travel. He had to go out of the country and be in a hotel in in Japan for a week before doing a week of work and then sit in a hotel again for a week before flying back. It was just the insanity was all around me, and I'm just sitting at home working with my dogs and just watching everyone kind of be crazy.

I'd go to the grocery store with headphones in and just go in really fast and pretend like no one existed. So if anyone tried to talk to me, I was just, I, it was, I feel very, I feel accidentally fortunate to have grown up the way I did. it was a hot mess in a lot of ways, but this extreme personal responsibility is kind of the basis of my existence. That comes through. There's two ways that we were talking about this, because this is the other part when we watch

whenever a guy like Anthony Fauci comes up, you think about all the people who wrote songs about him. They probably think that he's still a hero. And that's because there really was, I think the first person to bring it up was either Frank or Jim Zell said, hey, you know what? We're talking about an entire nation that is kind of like in a catatonic state. Yes. And the ringleaders, Anthony Fauci, of course, became the figurehead of the whole thing.

That was really just a mass trauma incident where it changed people's personalities and they had to, they had to form a whole new personality and worldview around this precipitating event. that apparently was that that was it but i but i think the individuals that were very susceptible to that so so there's those of us that had you know and and i i don't want to say it's a gen x thing because you guys aren't gen x but there's this you is okay you you you fight for your own fucking existence yeah and you make mistakes and you learn from them and you learn to trust your own, not just intuition. So you have intuition and then, you know, probably like Jay is like, ah, this is what I'm feeling. Let me go research the hell out of that. Let me see. Pretty much my whole life.

Yes. So same with me from the time it was a kid. Like the songs I loved as a kid, I'd go like look for like the meaning behind the lyrics. Like I'm completely retarded when it comes to music. But I was a lyrics person even as a child and poetry all of that kind of things that kind of thing i always i needed to understand and so there's the kind of brain that's looking to understand from a perspective of knowledge that i can own and then move forward with personal decisions and then there's people who you know i personally think part of it is i had well-intended parents but it was all kind of a hot mess so when you don't have that solid structure. Like I always think of my friends on the East Coast and I don't know why, but there was a bunch

of convention there. They came from the Catholic Church. You know, the mom was a nurse. The dad was a cop. They grew up in convention. And so they had all of these layers of convention that were creating what they thought life was. And the more layers of convention you have around you, sometimes the better your childhood,

mom and dad are there to take care of you, help you make decisions. pay for your college, make sure you can get a house, make sure you got married, make sure they're good grandkids, that's all beautiful. But at what point did that individual have to fend for themselves and come up with a place to stand as an individual in their own head so that they could make decisions for themselves? And I don't know that there's a good or a bad because if you grow up in that beautiful state where you had the support and the convention, you have all of these beautiful layers, do you ever start to, at what point were you able to fully think for yourself? Right. And you could never have to. And you could be uniquely unprepared for this, obviously,

unhopefully, once in a lifetime catastrophe that was thrust upon us. And if you remember also, we were all victim to this neurolinguistic programming. I don't know if you remember the term. It was a term that went right up my ass when I worked at the hospital. My boss would use it all the time. and I'd be like, shut up the new normal. This is the new normal. You remember, so we were all told this is now going to be the way. And I would, I never missed an opportunity to say, that's not true. That's not true.

Because you, because you like me, like, what the hell is normal? Well, right, right. I'm not afraid of not being normal. I'm not afraid of getting kicked out of any, any, any, any religion or family or anything else. I know that it's an accidental scent of circumstances that my life provided me. So that's where it's tricky because I'm kind of over it. But for the longest time, like I had a lot of empathy for people who I felt like were fucking up their own lives with their choices because they had no control over their

childhood up to whatever age they were making these crazy choices, just like I didn't. And there's genetic components to, you know, how hard-headed you are. There's different pieces. But for me, at the end of it all, beginning, middle, and end, it was like, I'm really good at reading people to begin with, but it was like so quick. It made it so much easier to see who someone was based on the words that came out of their mouth during that time. Absolutely.

Who the hell is four miles up on a trail and a mask giving me dirty looks while I'm trail running clearly healthy. And you can feel bad for them, but if you're still doing that, I had a cutoff point at some point where I was like, no more. If you're still doing that, for me, it was definitely like at the five year mark was the, was the point where I was like, nobody is getting off the hook now. I give you a dirty look if you're outside and a mask now in my neighborhood. For me, it was the public opinion polls that showed how many of my friends and families

would vote to put me into a camp. Well, yeah, that's true. So that's the one, but you know, Wally brought up makes me think about, I guess what could be another hopeful silver lining takeaway from farcical hearings like this week. And that is hopefully that maybe for some people, this was the straw that broke the camel's back as far as divorcing, divorcing themselves from being,

from being influenced by that, that cadre of people, you know. I think some. people, but what I think in this, I've thought this for many years, when you're, when you have been embedded in a way of living and in a way of thought for so many years, even if you hit 25, 35, 45, 45, 55, 65, you name it, and you start to have doubts about your entire life that you lived up until that point. It takes an incredibly strong human to go, you know what?

Yeah. I'm going to unwrap this on you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to rethink my entire adult existence. That is so hard. It's rare. Anyone who came out of this who decided to peel back the onion of their prior existence, like to me, that's the superhero. Not the people like me who are just like, you guys are nuts from the get-go, because that's how I already live. Yes. But the people who, the people who did the hard work of going, nope, I don't care what anybody thinks.

I do not feel good about this. I am going to make a decision and I'm going to take in new information and I'm going to sit here knowing that my decisions for all these years maybe were influenced by the wrong things. Because to me, that's heroic. That's difficult.

And there's something to be said for also having the courage of your convictions and dealing with the fallout. If you make a decision that's incorrect saying, hey, I'll bear the brunt of that. And that is not something that we teach people anymore. That is not a virtue that is, you know, that is that is held up in society. I completely agree.

I completely agree. Jay, I can't tell you how many women I turned on to soy. Do you know how bad I feel about that? Right. And you, right. Okay. But, but right. So I know cardiologists who spend their entire life telling you that LDL is the devil, right?

And they, and they refuse, even in their own, in their own, you know, when they're in their own fourth stenting procedure, despite the fact that their LDL is 28, they refused to shift their perspective because of all the people that they told LDL was the devil. And that is a sign of weakness. And that, so it's interesting. To be fair, I was like 18. This was like, this was multiple lifetimes ago. But around the same time that I, you know, was rethinking all of that and learning more correct information, which started with the West End A Price Foundation, by the way. Me too. And yeah. It. It was huge, but I was also introduced to a book by, his name is Dr. Sinatra.

And he was a cardiologist and a cardiac surgeon who just basically what he talked about in the book is this revolving door of patients. They come in, they need a stint. They clear it up, but they end up back in for something else. And he had had an, again, East Indian colleague who kept just leaving studies on his desk, on DRIBOS, on KU10, on a, acetyl carnitine on all of these different things. And he finally stopped and read them. And he basically said his clinic went away because he put his patients on, he put his, he put his people on this, this suite of, it's basically a stroke victim protocol instead of just immediately going to surgery. And he didn't have this revolving door anymore. Like, so I was like realizing. That's a problem for some

people. Well, I was going to say, have you ever heard of Dwight Lundell? Dr. Dwight Lundell? He did the same thing and he lost his medical license because he was tired of cutting people open and fixing them. So he opened a weight loss clinic, put them on relatively speaking lower carbohydrate diets, just whole food diets, reversed heart disease. And then they took his medical license, which is, you know, ironic. The same as the guy in Australia, whose name I can never remember. You are thinking of Gary Fetke. He tried to go up against the processed cereal industry there because he was a surgeon that was chopping off limbs of diabetic Gary Fedkey. Yep, Gary Fedkey. Yeah. It's so it's again, it takes a very strong person,

someone who doesn't give a shit what anybody thinks about them to, to stand up and say what they're thinking. And it's, you know, those people get to me, like, that's the difficult thing to do. I'm not looking to be a martyr or a voice for the population. If you ask me a question, it's your fault because what you're going to get if you ask I'm going to tell you I say that but otherwise like I'm going to keep my mouth shut like I'm not out here scouting shit well you know I think I think it's also I mean pride a human pride that they can get in the way of people it in in every level but I think where it becomes exceptionally hard for anybody to rethink what they what they're a part of and how many people they let astray even if they're had completely good intentions and they just led people astray and they realize it down the line. It's really hard for people to turn back and be really forthright about that because of how, again, how centralized so much is.

Now, obviously, if you're, for example, like, you know, uh, if, if an idea is not a good one and somebody does it and they take on a,

uh, a risk in the stock market and they destroy their own personal personal fortune and perhaps it gets around town. You're a little bit embarrassed, but at least you're not destroying everybody else along. the way. Everybody, there is so much less emphasis on informed consent. There's so much less emphasis on researching and dialectic and talk and all that other stuff. And it's more so just sacrifice your your personal ability to read and ask questions and just hand over everything to the expert.

And now we are a, you know, it's the tyranny of the experts of some people have called it. And it's very hard at that point, very hard at that point for anybody to turn around because they can't, unless Anthony Fauci comes out and says, I was wrong and we got it wrong. Nobody, people are waiting for somebody to give them permission to change their mind. And by the way, that's also the mark how you can tell someone is not a real scientist because any real scientist, anyone who's ever done anything in the scientific field has been wrong and understands that being wrong is actually a positive because it helps you move forward. Those are words I have never heard, and he has said a lot of shit in the last six years, never heard him say, you know, I was wrong about this. And that would be such a breath of fresh air. The death toll is too high, though. Right.

It's too much. But I think he's incapable anyway, because now we see what kind of narcissist he actually is. So. Hey, Molly, at that time, I know, obviously, I didn't get turned on to keto brains. And then, of course, everything else that you're producing and have developed since then, since like, 2020. 23. That's three years after the fact. What did you do? Because I know I kind of formulated my own personal household protocols with Jay, with, you know, these zinc tablets and everything else and quercetin and everything. You know, I had everything in line. What kind of, what kind of protocols

did you make for yourself around that time? I'm curious. Well, I was super keto when it hit. So, number one, I never got it. If I did, I had no symptoms. Low inflammation. Zero. Zero. So I was super keto at the time. Also, at the beginning, I was a buyer for a supplement department for a chain. So I knew everything that everyone would want. So if I was to put together a protocol, I didn't take a lot because I didn't see any need to do a whole lot different than I was already doing. but beta glucan, active hexose correlated compound. So active hex. Yeah, AHCCC comes out of Japan. It is an amazing product for tripling killer cell activity.

Beta glucans, cheaper, also increase killer cell activity. Obviously, high-quality echinacea based on, not echinacea. Well, echinacea, yes, because people wanted it. zinc gluconate, as long as we could get our hands on it, because as a buyer, it was buying from multiple stores. Everybody was buying everything up. So we were just trying to get anything we could. Elderberry, quality elderberry for the antiviral properties, medicinal mushrooms of all kinds,

ketones. There was research on exogenous ketones and endogenous ketones and how your body then responded to an assault. Um, you know, for again, for me, it's again, why would I change anything if I never already got sick? Good day. That was kind of what I was at. That's, I'm glad I asked. Yeah.

The only time I ever felt kind of sick was we were opening new stores during the beginning of COVID. So that meant me 16 to 18 hours with the construction crew building out these supplement departments in a freaking mask. So I would feel horrible at the end of the day because I had been breathing in this mask. But the only time I felt bad was the days that I had to wear a mask at these new sites where we were building out stores. Agreed. I used to have to wear those. Well, the first day I went into the hospital, they gave us those plastic, crappy, you know, surgical masks. I had a headache by the end of the day.

So I went out and I bought a hemp mask, you know. And that was great, right? until the hospital was like, oh, but that's not good enough. I'm like, oh, wait, wait, wait. So let me get this straight. I'm going to mask for you assholes, but that's not, but my hemp mask is not good enough because I was getting a headache every time I wore their stupid mask. It's unbelievable.

And that's like I had zero, for me, just the industry that I've lived in since I was 18, like, you know, my path, again, fat kid, obese teenager, 10 years of anorexia, which is now 30 more more years ago. Like my whole path was how do I find optimal health? What is it? How do I find it? How do I feel good all the time? How do I this?

How do I that? So, you know, for me, it was, it was just, like, my cupboard was already full of all the things. But when people would come in and they'd want the protocol, it would be when possible, the zinc, gluconate lozenges, the quercetin, which has been around forever, even though people only now know about it because of COVID, but we did quercetin for people forever. the medicinal mushrooms either in whole form with a certain percentage of polysaccharide or the AHCC in the beta glucans to keep the immune system up um you know we we already had you know fully built out immune sections it wasn't a whole lot different than what we already recommended

when people would come in with a virus it was just trying to keep it in stock but it was but it was novel don't you don't you know that molly it was novel what do what are you talking well you know I'm sorry, I'm retarded. Hey, you know what? First of all, it's 9 o'clock, so we got to bounce off here anyway. Unless, Molly, I don't know, you have some place to go. Do you want to stay with us to the flip side for a couple of minutes? Or do you got to go?

I can take for a couple of minutes. Okay. All right. So before we go, because, you know, let me just say, because anytime you guys are on a stream with me, I love just listening back, listening to you guys nerd out. So let me just say that on KidoBrains.com, this is the kind of awesome stuff that's all up in the blog.

You put out great, great blogs. There's so much information. Molly is also very accessible. She's a frankly now. She's just, you're always watching. So reach out there. If you ever wanted to ask questions or anything. And more, most importantly, by the time this show goes live again on Monday, the July

special 250th celebration, it will be done. So anything, so, I mean, a massive $2,500. prize package. There's also going to be four other runner-ups you're going to be giving away that is going to be this travel package with all of the keto brains neutropics. But I mean, just give everybody a reason to go to ketobrains.com and just put something in the cart this weekend. Yeah, it's to me, again, back to things that aren't new, but everyone thinks that are new, like I've taken or eaten natokines for 10 years just because when I first learned about it, like why on our news?

wouldn't you do that? And, you know, I, anyone I know who has been vaccinated, I've got them on like two to four pills a day or more. I'm doing three a day. Yep. Nope. That's perfect. It's, I like, I like to offer tools to people that I've used for multiple years, but also tools that

anyone can use. Like, why wouldn't you use a tool that has no detriment that can help protect you from X, Y, or Z. And those are the kind of things that we'd like to try to offer. It's just, I don't know, it's, it's all about cellular health and anything you can do for your cellular health. And then if you can keep capillaries, veins, and arteries, pliable, elastic and free from excess fibrin, yet again, why, why would you not do that? Yeah. I'd eat the food every day if I had time to ferment it myself, but it's really expensive to order ready to eat nato. And I love it. I've grown to love it, but I don't have the time or money to be spending $70 for 10 little containers.

You know what? I've got a question for you on the flip side about that and how it's taken, taken in and process and all that. I meant to ask both you guys about this. So Ketobrains.com, use promo code July or any active, quite frankly, code, especially if you're a monthly subscriber, use your code. You know what it is. And then you will be in the running for a wonderful prize package. And even if you don't win,

it doesn't matter. That's part of my health stack. Every day. It's the creamer. I put it in anything I can work it into. The natokinase at night for circulatory support of all kinds. And, you know, there's an electrolyte

pack I can't talk about right now that I I really love, that's the third part of my. It's so frustrating. They're working on it and it just, like, I'm just not a fan of the law and lawyers. Like, well, I'm fine. I'm not, like, I'm not going to break the law, but like the kind of loyering that goes on in these scenarios. I'm just like, why? I know.

You have two sets of good quality humans creating quality product in different countries and you're going to fucking argue about it. Like, why? Yeah. I, anyway, I get it. I get you. get you so you know what real quick let me just let me run out a winner here uh hold on nakey lamb and lindsay thomas just threw it a great episode tonight frank thanks and jay thank you lindsay thomas nakey lamb says from the beginning when they closed schools for two weeks i never trusted the whole

damn thing hi frank and jay so let me put uh nakey and lindsay in there hold on nakey lamb Lindsay Thomas. There's always some, I love the screen names. I know. They're really making me laugh. Over on, uh, Pilled is Maliardi and Code Blue. Free thinking is less nowadays. Yeah, so let me get, uh, let me get those in and then we're, I'm pulling out a name.

Here we go. Molly Artie and Code Blue. Okay, so who is winning the, the four woodworked, quite frankly, coasters with a beautiful felt bottom. And of course. copper and silver just one prize this week and here we go jay you want to give me a uh there you go and then the winner is a big to do again uh wicks vixen wicks vixen it didn't take wicks vixen that's a new one yeah i'm not totally familiar with that screen name wicks vixen i don't even know which chat room

that came from i think i read that off tonight but wickson Vixen. That's a new winner. Get in touch of me. Frank, it quite frankly.com. Congratulations. I'm even going to throw in, I have a couple of a keto brains sample packs over here. I'm just going to throw a couple of my own sample packs in there too, because you've got to try that. It's a game changer. I can't. If I go a day without it, I just, I don't like myself as much, to be honest. I don't like you either, really. Right. I don't like it. Nobody does. Okay. We'll see you guys on the flip side, Molly's going to stay with us for a couple more minutes. I have a key question for her and Jay and follow us over because after that is done, we're going to give you guys a very special

documentary. And I don't know if this episode is going to last, but we're going to give it a shot. Okay, be right back, talk to you all soon and look in the chat room for that link. Thank you. We love everybody on Badlands as well. Thank you, Molly. It's great to have you on again. Thank you for letting me come run my mouth. Please, we have to do it more often. And Jay, Health Reclamation Project.com. J has wonderful between Jay and Molly. I mean, getting on everybody's projects,

they are only going to improve your life. I'm, I stake my reputation on that. I really do. Okay, I'll see you guys in just a moment. On the flip. Oh, you son of a bitch.

I'll catch you on the flip side. Quite frankly, is filmed before a live studio audience and now our super chatters starring so many people I can't even count. I love you all so much. I'm dropping the link in the chat room. please follow us over and if you can't find that link go to quakefrankly.tv and press play.

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