Badlands Media - Quite Frankly Ep. 66: The 9/11 Eve Show, the Black Eagle Trust & an AI Whistleblower

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

Frankie Val and co-host Jay mark the eve of September 11 with the show's heaviest night of the year, a quarter century on. They open in the strange calm of September 10, 2001 (Michael Jordan teasing a comeback, a Westchester scandal, Frankie's mom at MSG for the Jackson 5) before the tone turns. The centerpiece is a walk through E.P. Heidner's 2008 "Collateral Damage" paper, tracing a money trail from Operation Paperclip and the Nazi Black Eagle Trust to looted Pacific gold and the covert finance angle of that day. Frankie stresses it is all sourced and linked on the blog, and treats it as a summary rather than gospel. The back half pivots to a suspiciously astroturfed AI whistleblower warning the world will end by decade's end, which Frankie and Jay read through the familiar problem, reaction, solution lens, comparing it to the Patriot Act sitting ready in 2001. Callers, reflection, and raffle round it out.

The badlands, one of the badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of their name. Hey, Jay, how you doing? Me? Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. I know.

You okay? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just have audio issues again. For no reason. Yeah. There's no, there's no rhyme or reason to this. There's no updates that happened on the computer. Like media audio issues?

Yeah, routing issues. local media. So anything that I queue up from an MP4, from an MP3 over here on the computer that routes through OBS, it doesn't make it to the output on air. But I can play audio from the Chrome.

So I can have media, but I can't have intros and outros again. I don't know, man. I don't know. You have too much to do for intros and outros anyway. Ah, fuck at all. Seriously. You know, man.

And it's just one of those crazy days. I'll tell you, when it comes to, essentially, tonight is our, my September 11th show. And it is heavier every year. There's something about quarter century now. I can't even believe it. I think because we've been able to observe two full generations of people that have come up, at least two full generations of people who have come up since. And what we're living with right now, because the city has been completely

rebuilt. The rubble has been cleared for many, many, many years now. Some of it the day after. Right. I know. Quickly, quickly shuffled off to make warships out of the scraps. And I, every day is a reminder. The farther we get away from it, the more that we're just living with the psychological impact. Yeah. And it's not that it all stems from that, but that was a major, major laceration, especially in the way that we were, we allowed ourselves to have any kind of social cohesion. It was the last time that we had, we had that, that coast to coast, at least illusion of social cohesion, that there was a way to galvanize people's hearts and minds, at least for a time,

it was it, it was spent capital after that. Yeah. So, and then the, every year the lives lost become worse and worse. And then when you, when you think about the thousands of people who have died because of the toxic conditions downtown and everywhere else ever since then. I mean, that's a whole other story. But take a look at this. I've got a little glimpse of, I got a little glimpse of the night before. And I want to ask everybody, especially that question, what were you doing the night before? This shot, showing you lower Manhattan.

And everything is actually in pretty good shape now as we work into clear. This is the news leader. ABC 7.5 Witness News. Tonight, concern and outrage from parents about a party where a stripper performed for high school football players. All right. Plus, we're live in Denver for a wrap-up of tonight's showdown between the Giants and the Broncos. Who is the quarterback of the Giants back then? I'm Diana Williams.

And I'm Bill Hitter. Thanks for staying up. Those stories in a moment. But first, some big basketball news tonight. Very big basketball news. The best basketball player ever ever. Michael Jordan is coming back. Tonight, all but confirming, he's coming back. Michael Jordan telling a group of robots.

supporters in Chicago, he will play again, quote, for the love of the game. Our other big story today, Westchester parents passed a high school meeting this evening, voicing shock and outrage about a private party for high school football players. It was right in Chappaqua, too. You didn't play football, did you think?

No, this one, I never got, the parties I got involved. Innocent. Nobody knew about the parties I was asked to. But this was like some of those big those big house parties that

Janine Piro got involved with when she was the district attorney around here. That's how we all grew up knowing Janine Piro. She was the party pooper. She still is. Listen, there was one kid that died. There was one kid that, there was somebody got, there was a fight.

Somebody got knocked to the ground, you know, went and seized and all that shit. But as far as, you know, house parties for the, for affluent children. Yeah, Janine sprung into action. It's did drugs, drank booze, and were entertained by a stripper at a house in Chappaqua. Jim Dolan has more. It was a packed meeting, but there was no yelling or fist pounding, just a roomful of parents who were shocked and worried and wondering what to do next.

And principal Kathy Mason did not sugarcoat it, saying last week's incident was maybe most disturbing because the kids don't even seem to know what they did wrong. The frightening part of it was in dialogues informally from the moment we found out about this, Our kids were not enraged by this. Our kids were saying, this is no big deal. How big was the party and who arranged it? It's Chappaqua. I mean, your next door neighbors are the Clintons out there. It's very affluent.

The Clintons arranged it. It was probably the Clinton Gardner. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, I know. And, of course, the next day, that didn't mean anything. He went missing after. Right. My mother just texted me to remind me that on September 10th of 2001,

she was in Madison Square Garden for Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5. They got together that night. The Jackson 5, yeah, September 10th of MSG. It's like the last night of normalcy. Somebody out there, people out there who knew what was coming the next day, that they, of course, they can feel the labor pains of what would be an awful new world. And people who are shorted airline stocks? Yeah, those people.

A lot of money was, a lot of money was conveniently, I mean, just a lot. A lot. And I've got some things to throw into the mix here tonight. Let's do it. I have some things to throw into the mix here. And then also in the second half, I got to put it out there too because there was this AI whistleblower type who came forward in very mysterious ways. A nothing account never posted before suddenly has so much exposure and has been. been astroturfed by everybody in a warning that AI is going to destroy us all by the end of the

decade. And of course, begging the question, you know, what solution is already ready for this problem and reaction? Oh, well, that's always wonderful. Just like the Patriot Act was ready to roll out after 9-11. That's what I'm saying, you know, in the second half, once we get some people calling in, and we kind of level out with all the, with all the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, uh, the, it's always like an AI Patriot Act kind of a, uh, situation that seems to be, this seems to be bubbling. You know, because there's all, it's, it's all the people who are behind the funding of this. Yeah. Right, right, right. It's a problem here. We need to. And, uh, so that was it. We have a solution. I think, we do. We have a solution. You know, what is this? What a great... It's like just unfolded a piece of paper. I just have this idea.

I mean, we just could do this. We have an idea. And it is a complete new regulatory, you know, a mechanism. Don't you want to sacrifice your freedom for a little bit of safety and security? You know, the greatest thing would be... Because, of course, AI is in everything. It is in the banking. Everything is smart in this way.

There are aspects of these... you know, processing mechanisms that are baked into everything now. So you can say, well, I don't, I don't talk to Claude. I don't talk to chat, GPT. It's like, you're on the internet. You're feeding everything is integrated and you're feeding it just by being. So unless you're living like Obi-Wan Canobi somewhere in the desert, you're a part of it. And when you start talking about how this technology and the race for the ultimate version of it

is going to create some sort of a really bad issue. for humanity at large, then you say, okay, well, if a regulatory, if regulatory action comes into being over, you know, how far is the reach going to be because it's in everything, you know, so. I just noticed, and it's not that it just showed up yesterday, but I noticed it yesterday for a specific reason. So, you know, like when you type an email and Gmail, it would forever in a day, it's like it'll, it'll auto fill some things, you know, based on probably, I don't know, language you typically use or it'll just predict words, right, to help you fill it out faster. For some reason, I noticed it in a very specific way that somebody had sent me an email,

an AI had written a response for me. I didn't send it yet, but it was like, here's a full response. It wasn't just, you know, like predicting words. It was saying, here's a response you can use. And I read it and I was like, this is so crazy because it was relatively well crafted, although not exactly what I would say, but the fact that it was there, at one click of a button, I could answer that email with a fully AI written summary version, you know, like response to that. That was weird to me yesterday for some reason in such a stark manner. Well, that's the thing, you know, you start wondering to yourself how we are going to, we already know that just from initial, initial reports, it's going to, it's already had a major

impact on, you know, test groups with IQ, especially because people are using it as a way to complete work. And of course, by just offloading all of your work to something else, there's no retention. So there's, you know, and retention is not even, is not, that's not even necessarily something that you want to attain so you can pass the test. You want to be able to, especially if you're trying to build skills for adulthood. Right. You want to be able to bring, you want to retain things so that you have better problem solving skills and comprehension skills going into life. Internalize the concept. Yeah. So, but at this point, we're going so far backwards that not only are the machines saying, do you want me to summarize this email for you? And then do you want me to

respond for you? It's like, what are we doing? I'm just going to sit here like this all day. Yeah. Druling with my tongue hanging out. Oh, this is easy. It really is a neocracy. It's a documentary. bait I'm baiting soon go away baiting go away baiting oh that's it anyway so

but we'll get to that in a little bit in the second half I'd like because it's very it is we've experienced a couple of 9-11 since 9-11 you know 2020 was a slow motion 9-11 yeah

that's something else here too but the AI Patriot Act kind of a feeling that has been built up this week has been a little weird. So I want to combine that if we can smoothly. Let's do it. There's another account. There's an account on Twitter.

It's called 25 years ago live. At 25 years ago live. It is 2001 live. And the entire account has been tweeting 2001 as it has happened, things that were going on day to day. And now, of course, it's, like your logo. It's much, it's very, very much anticipated the next, the next few days because it's going to be hour by hour reliving all this shit. And people are actually getting anxiety over like they know what's coming next. Yeah.

First of all, here's some stuff from other stuff from September 10th that we might have forgotten about. This was a day that federal grand jury in Jacksonville, Florida, indicted 21 people who defrauded McDonald's out of more than 24, million dollars by rigging the company's popular monopoly game. I remember that. We talked about this on the show. Yeah. I did a monopoly show or two over the course of the last couple of years. A lot of money was made over the selling and the, you know, the tracking of where all those

monopoly pieces were going. And so that was that grand jury was, that was issued. They issued indictments today 25 years ago. And that guy only got caught really because he got really greedy, right? Yeah. Yeah. He could have got away probably if he just had a little bit of self-control. Yeah, well, here's another one, things that people often forget,

that we hear in the tri-state area, we are getting ready to be walloped by a giant hurricane. Aaron, right? Hurricane Aaron. I remember this. New York City is getting ready. We are getting absolutely drenched by heavy thunderstorms. So ironic at the way 9-11 the day played out.

Like the gorgeousness of that day. Yeah. I mean. Hundreds of commercial flights on the East Coast are delayed or canceled that day and tomorrow. This is all the day before. Wow. All the day before. Hurricane Aaron on the way.

It's like, oh boy, well, this week's going to be a wash. Yeah. You know, all the things in the, it's the comments that get me. There's Woody Harrelson from True Detective. Like, he knows what's coming. He's like, please, just stop. You're like, just don't do it. Of course, we have the interstellar, the interstellar memes.

Stay away from it. Somebody comments, this is definitely going to be the worst thing to happen to New York City this week. The hurricane meeting? Yeah. This was the last normal day in the country. I don't know. It's crazy. And of course, there's a Boston, New York connection to all this stuff.

Of course. I remember, you know, go. going to work that morning. And I heard it first. And I didn't know exactly what happened. Because, you know, I was getting ready for work. And I got into my car and I just turned on the radio. And at that time, Howard Stern. I was a Howard Stern listener. And I could tell the moment I turned it on, right? Because like I jumped in, I think right after the impacts, maybe, you know, 9 a.m. So it was like in the midst of it all. But I could tell something was wrong. But it was the only time I think I ever remember, well, until recently, you know, because Howard Stern was always

just a jokester. Like obviously later he'd turn into a nutcase, but he was so serious. And he actually did a very good job. The whole Stern team did a very good job on 9-11. And I, and my commute to work was like five minutes at that time. I music store. And I just remember driving there. And then I got in and I had like a little black and white, one of those little like remote, you know, TVs, like a baby TV. I literally watched the whole thing on that TV the whole day because no one came into my store that day, really, because everything kind of stopped and it was just absorbing everything for that whole day. And nothing stopped like that until COVID. Yeah.

Until everybody told, you know, you're talking about your five-minute commutes again. I mean, that was just, I was, it was, you know, it could have been tumbleweeds in my town. And I, I don't know. It was an odd day for me because while everything was happening, we were holed up inside of our auditorium. We went to, I was a junior at Steppenack High School in White Plains. Anthony was in his freshman year. So this is the first week of high school for Anthony.

Oh, yeah, right. And we rolled up, we rolled up to the school that day. You know, the bus is arriving at school and we're seeing all of our teachers outside of the school. And they're holding picket signs. And they're picketing. I remember you. Yeah. This was the day that their union went to,

like, you know, war against the archdiocese. They wanted raises and whatever the hell else. I guess their contract was up. And so we're like, oh, shit. So we all got, the upperclassmen went into the auditorium. The lower classmen went into the gym. And that's where we were kept with all the non-union teachers until they figured out what to do with us.

And this was before the actual events, right? Because it would have been like 8 o'clock in the morning. It was going on during it. And we didn't know because so then finally the, whoa, finally the, a very weird day for, because we were absolutely in,

in the, in the, in the dark here. And then, um, and then our, our president and the headmaster came in and, and,

you know, told us what was going on with the, the strike, how we were going to approach it for the, like, for the next, I don't know, all the,

all the, obviously the teachers came back in and they say, hey, you know what, let's just chill out for a little bit. We'll get back. Let's just deal with the kids. Make sure everybody's all right.

And then we can deal with, with our union stuff later on. Eventually it went to, like for weeks, it went to a on-day, off-day kind of a thing. Upper-classmen came in one day, lower-classmen came in the other. So you only went to school for like two or three days a week. That's weird.

Yeah, it was very weird. We got through it. But anyway, they gave us the update on that. And they said, now a little bit of updates on, you know, some news for us as a country. And we're like, okay, well, all right. And then it said this morning and it gave us the time to, two planes hit the Twin Towers in New York.

Sorry, but so you're in New York. You have no, I know you're in the school, but at your school, would you be able to see the evidence of this if you stepped outside of the school? No. No, no, not unless, not from White Plains. Okay. From my college, yeah.

Okay. You could have. If you went to a roof, you can see the smoke billowing. Yeah. But not from where we were. We had the televisions in every class. By the time we got to the, we got to the classrooms. the towers were already down.

Oh, wow. So all that... You forget how fast that was. Dude, we were at, we were at school by, we were at school by 8 o'clock. Yeah. But we were just in this auditorium, you know, goofing off, being assholes, having a, having a great time. Of course. And all this is going on.

You're like, we're not going to have to go to class for a while, probably. Teachers are picketing. And then not only that. So, so they come in and they say not only did the towers get struck, but they were already down. Yeah. And we're so, wait, wait, wait, the Twin Tower. don't exist anymore. Now that's when, you know, a small, you know, a small, you know,

cavalcade of our friends, you know, went running out of the room because they wanted to go contact their parents that worked downtown. Oh, of course. Some of them, you know, some of them, a couple of them didn't make it. And it was, it was really just, at that point, it was, I mean, everybody didn't matter if you lived in New York, if you lived in Colorado, your heart was in your shoes for weeks. Believe it or not, even though I came from, I'm pretty sure I'm getting this right, it's been a while since I thought about this, but even coming from a little teeny town of,

at that time, like 13,000 people where I grew up, we had somebody on one of the planes that was killed. You know, like, amazing that it just impacted so many people, even from far away. It's nuts, man. It really is. And for everybody at home, We do this every year, and we're not going to be talking about architectural failures today, structural failure. You know, we're not going to – you don't do that every year. We talked to Richard Gage last year. We've had Jason Bermis on for a show on 9-11, and I ultimately love to have him. Jason's down in Manhattan right now.

Oh. I was talking to him. I was trying to get him up here to come sit in on a show. Oh, that would have been cool. Yeah, he's emceeing an event down there today, and, um, on Saturday, I think. Oh, so he's going to be here for a couple days. He'll be here for a couple days, I think.

So, but I wasn't able to get him up here. That would have been awesome. But, yeah, that would have been cool. But I would love to hear what you guys think. Not only that I have some, where do we have it? We have a couple of chat polls up. Then I want to get into more this day, the day of kind of a stuff. The chat poll on YouTube, which please head on over to YouTube and vote in it.

While you do that, please like the stream. share the stream, make sure that you're subscribed and that your notifications are on. Right now we've got, what do you remember the most about the pre-9-11 America? What do you miss the most about pre-9-11 America that you remember? Your options are feeling like we had common culture, life before everything was online, optimism about the world, or more freedom and privacy. Can I vote all of the above? Oh, yes. That's why I say, what do you miss the most?

because we miss it all. Was it the last one again? More freedom and privacy. I don't know. I feel like that for me is above all else because that was such a, you know, predetermined or not made it happen, let it happen on purpose, whatever it is. There's no doubt that this was, you know, never let a good crisis go to waste. The opportunity was seized and we've still not recovered from that seizure.

still. And as a society, I don't know how far you can progress without people feeling like they have true freedom. And I'm sure we're going to talk about this. But I think so many things that you may not even connect with 9-11 and with the loss of freedom you could see today. And you could still find a way to maybe not a direct line, but you could still trace it back to that period of time. So that's, that's my vote. Another thing that happened today, 25 years ago, was of course, this very famous a 10 a.m. announcement from the defense secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. Some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. At all?

We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of different technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible. We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base infrastructure than we need to support our forces. and an annual waste to tax payers of some three to four billion dollars. Fully half of our resources go to infrastructure and overhead. And in addition to draining resources from war fighting, these costly...

So, you know, and listen, it's a very famous announcement. A lot of people say, a lot of people just conclude very plainly that $2.3 trillion is stolen. and all that. When really, I mean, it's almost as bad as just being at that. I mean, just to say that that kind of money, even back in 2001, is being moved around and there's no way for, with the technology and the infrastructure that they had available at the time, to even be able to verify where it's going, who's receiving, who's receiving it, whether or not it got there. Waste fraud, forget about waste fraud. It's all not. We're talking trillions of dollars back in 2000. Now, $2.3 trillion is your average continuing resolution these days. That's, uh, that, in and of itself, but this is another, this is a very big, uh, what do they call it? It's a silver anniversary, right? 25 years. Yeah. Take a look now.

We can thank Donald Rumsfeld for Asper team as well, by the way. Oh, yes. Just throwing that out there. I admit FDA. Yeah. That's a long story, but yeah. Donald Rumsfeld to blame for Asper team, everybody. Even the ants don't want it.

No, they don't. Now, I found this picture. I found this video of passengers sitting on a plane when the pilot suddenly, this is the caption, suddenly tells them the Twin Towers had been destroyed. I don't think I've ever seen this. There's so much stuff that comes out every year. And I said, you have to be wary about all the stuff that comes out.

Of course. But the cabin went almost completely silent as they realized what was going on. but the thing that you got to really listen to is there's a lot of misinformation. This is when misinformation was at peak levels. And this was before the Internet. Well, before the Internet that we know. Yeah. So as far as the it would be times 100,000 at this point.

But I want you to listen to these first reports as they're just being disseminated by the, by what you would call it, the captain of this plane. Take a listen to this. What we have, at least three aircraft have been hijacked in the United States. Two of which were hijacked in the New York area, and they were driven into the World Trade Center towers. They destroyed both powers. Both powers have completely collapsed. Of course, we have.

Let's see. In addition to that, another aircraft was hijacked. I believe this is the U.S. air hijacked airplane, and that's with the U.S. air hijacked, and that's with blown up and destroyed out of the ocean. So, wait, Frank. A blown up and destroyed out of the outside of the ocean.

But I actually question the logic of doing the announcement like this. Because what if one of the hijackers is on that plane and the guy goes, well, we're not getting off the ground, but now I'm just going to start stabbing people or do whatever. Like, you'd think they would have, you know, they would

have evacuated the airplane. This seems like in a closed system like this, this is not the time to make that kind of an announcement. I don't know. Honestly, it might just be, I know that everything was grounded, but people could also just be wondering

why they're being rerouted. And, you know, as far as disclosure goes, and obviously there was no air marshals and stuff like that on the plane just yet. Even more of a reason, because, you know, if there was a hijacker on that plane, he's like, well, I got to go see my virgins anyway. I wouldn't,

what I would not have done, aside from just letting people know what was, like generally what's happening and why we have to get grounded and then to reassure everything's all right. But what I don't get is just going through all of those crazy initial reports. This one about a plane being downed over the ocean. Listen to the next ones that he says. Let's see. Fourth item here, the Pentagon was attacked with a helicopter loaded with explosives. and the

there's no damage Smiths right now uh also we've had other reports of the White House being attacked and currently they're reporting

that's uh they're recording they're recording now there's smoke coming out of the White House that's under for their details was that? No, maybe you have to understand, dear two.

It's so nonchalant, too. And there's also this thing. I'm trying to remember. That's all strange. I'm trying to remember here. It's like, because for two days straight, especially in this area, especially in this area, it was nonstop reports of vans on bridges. Right.

Waiting for the other shoot a drop. But there was a, there was a traffic helicopter can. that was fixed on the Empire State Building for like two days because they said that bomb-sniffing dogs had made discoveries in the Empire State Building. So, I mean, it's just reports were everywhere. And we were just ready for buildings to drop, just to drop. Yeah.

Because they don't do that, Frank. Frank. I don't know, man. They don't do that, Frank. I know, man. But I don't know. Exactly. I know.

No architecture, I promise. But no, no, but listen, I have, for the flip side, I have several witness testimonies that I think we should definitely bring up again. I mean, I have, this time of year, I always end up listening to people like William Rodriguez and Barry Jennings. And what's his name? Jennings brings up that other guy Hess. And there's just a lot. Yeah. to mention that all of the, all of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you can listen, you can listen to so much from NYFD, uh, talking about

their assessment of the fires up in the, in the, by the impact point of the towers. Um, first of all, you had survivors in the, um, that one woman waving her, you know, like, in the actual gash on the side of the, of the, the building. So there are people there. This, they had, didn't even wipe everybody out. So the fire, they're getting up there. And I remember the radio chatter saying, you know, just pretty much prescribing two water lines up there. And they thought there was just, there's isolated pockets of fire that they're confident they can take care of.

Absolutely. I remember that too. The firefighters were sure that this was like, not that it wasn't a big deal, but they could handle it. That they can handle it. And that's, you know, again, these are the professionals who,

I don't, I don't think they would have gone running into a building. I mean, they evacuate firefighters if they think there's danger of collapse. Yeah. To protect the firefighters. So the people that knew the most about this knew the seriousness of it,

but nobody predicted what would have happened, you know, just minutes later. I still watch some of those collapse videos and I'm still shocked 25 years later. Still shocked. Oh, I'm going to be watching it for a couple of weeks now. Yeah. It's just what I often get it because it's something that fascinates me. All the different things that get uploaded. and reading people in the comments and just, I don't know, I don't, it's not like a,

it's not like an obsession, but it's seasonal. These things just pop up in suggestion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, it's, you're just like waiting for something to happen that you, you almost in a weird way, you still have a little bit of hope that it's going to end up different. I found myself when I watch those videos, I'm always, usually they'll put a, like a clock somewhere to tell you exactly what time it is to the minute that, you know, when you're watching a video. And I'm always, it is like a little bit of anxiety when you know the thing's coming.

It's the jumpers for me. Yeah. It's the jumpers for me. Yeah. Yeah. That's why after all these years, it's really is a, there's no real use in arguing people or, you know, gatekeeping with your favorite types of things. theories and you know there's always there's always interesting conversations that be had but

the more time we spend away from the actual day the the only thing I really reflect on is is just a loss of life the the the parents the the brothers sisters the sons and daughters the the first responders are absolute heroes oh my god the even I think it was a couple years ago we did a it might have been the first badass month the the badass month that we were doing but we had done it before there too

the rescue dogs of 9-11 those those just the dogs everybody the famous boat lift for for years I would play that at the end of every episode on the on the end side of the

end credits like you know copyright ruins all that But it's just a five-minute documentary on how every, every, you know, boat captain in New York Harbor staged an evacuation that dwarfed, you know, anything you could have thought. It's just. And to me, I think that's why it's important. And, you know, we can talk about this later. We can talk about it on the flip side.

The things that I, because, you know, my area of expertise is not, you know, the properties of thermite or, you know, any kind of that. I'm more interested in what we knew, when we knew it, and the reason that I think the truth matters still, whether you're talking about the Kennedy assassination or something like this, is that you do see the best in people. And you see the reason why the truth matters because of what animals, people did on that day

to come to the rescue of complete strangers because people are just good. And that's why the truth matters. For the people who lost somebody, and I said this to you earlier today, the people who lost somebody, I understand why they maybe they don't want to go down a road. They just believe the official narrative because it's all they can handle. Because for many of them, they're probably still mourning in some way. So to them, I don't begrudge them that.

They can believe whatever they want to believe. But I believe it is our duty, the rest of us, to seek the truth for those people and for the people who put themselves on the line, the first responders, the people who selflessly, ran into buildings to rescue other people because if there is anything nefarious or if there was anything known ahead of time, and I believe there was, that the truth is the only thing that matters. So the grieving can grieve, but the rest of us, I believe it is our duty to continue to seek the truth. Well, I have something for you if you want to dive into it. I haven't read it

on the show in four years. I don't know if I ever did, to be honest, but this was a piece that was penned by John Carroll for the show. And John is doing well, everybody, just so that, you know, just on to other projects. We had a lot of fun on election night. Absolutely. He was a great guy. Absolutely. I love meeting him.

On September 11, 2022, this was published on quite frankly. Dot TV. It's called the Golden Coverup. I was unfamiliar with this. Well, especially since you brought up the put options on the airlines. That's a fact. The day before, we just brought up another little, you know, financial history. piece of news and that is

Donald Rumsfeld. But this is something that doesn't necessarily connect all those dots, but it is very, it's adjacent. And it is a very compelling theory based on the investigative work of one author I'm going to talk

about in just a second. I think we should read through it. Let's do it. So here is the golden cover-up by John Carroll. It's no secret to the quite frankly audience that 9-11 wasn't inside job. Mountains of evidence proved not only the crime, but a conspiracy to create a new order out of the manufactured chaos. The future 9-11 created is obvious for all of us to see, but a closer look at the history, which led up to that fateful morning,

leads to a stunning revelation that one of the all-time great cover-ups of a crime was actually a cover-up of countless other crimes. The financial aspect of 9-11 was allegedly motivated to conceal a shadow global financial system. The heart of this system is known as the Black Eagle Trust. A gold-backed slush fund, which operates completely outside the oversight of national legislatures and regulatory agencies. A 2008 paper titled Collateral Damage, U.S. covert operations and the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 by E.P. Heidener, is the culmination of six years of research into this subject. Readers are encouraged to examine the original paper, including 16 pages of footnotes, which can be, found right there. It is linked. You can go into the blog section on quite frankly.

You'll see it and this is all sourced. What follows is a summary of the paper's key findings. The story begins during the waning days of World War II as Allied forces sought to gain strategic advantages in the coming Cold War. In addition to scientists and engineers, Operation Paperclip was also offered asylum to German military officers who disclosed the locations of secret bunkers filled with gold. The name Black Eagle Trust comes from the Black Eagle stamp found on the gold bars of the Nazi government. The European loot, however, would pale in comparison to what was found in the Pacific.

After decades of conquest and plunder in China and Southeast Asia, evidence suggests Japan accumulated the largest hoard of gold in human history. It exceeded 280,000 tons, slightly more than the entirety of the world's official gold holdings. As their fortunes in the war soured, the Japanese high command determined that the gold should be consolidated and hidden away in the Philippines under the command of General Tamoyuki Yamashita due to the U.S. submarine blockades of Japan itself. Rumor of the stolen treasure eventually reached the Americans and the task to recover it was quietly undertaken by Edward Lansdale, an intelligence officer under General Douglas MacArthur. After the war,

Lansdale found and tortured Yamashita's driver until he created maps leading to the gold. The operation was a success and set a precedent for American barbaric way of conducting espionage going forward. Lansdale continued to blaze the trail, forming the CIA's relationships with Mossad and America's mafia families, and proposing the false flag operation to kill the innocent American citizens and pin the blame on Fidel Castro. Operation Northwoods. known as Northwoods. Wow. The existence of what came to be known as Yamashita's gold

first entered mainstream consciousness in 1988 when a Filipino treasure hunter named Rogelio Rojas sued the former president of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos, in a Hawaiian court. Rojas, that is, R OXAS for those of you in podcast land. I'm probably saying it wrong. Rojas. Rojas.

Roques. Mexico. Rojas, maybe. Okay. Claim to have found a portion of the gold, which Marcos sees before sending him to prison for a year. The court initially awarded $43 billion to Rojas in what is still the largest civil lawsuit in American history. 43 billion. That's a lot of money. Yeah. Of course, by that time, much of the gold had already been moved and was serving as the foundation of a new financial system behind the scenes. Once Lansdale's information was confirmed, the Truman administration decided to keep the gold a secret,

in part to preserve the relative stability of the 1944 Breton Woods Agreement. Secretary of War Henry Stimson came up with the idea of creating the Black Eagle Trust to fund anti-communist efforts around the world. And William Donovan of the newly created CIA became the point man for distributing the gold to domestic and international banks. In total, the gold ended up being held in over 100, banks in 42 countries. The fingerprints of the Black Eagle Trust can be found on countless covert operations from the Bay of Pigs to Iran-Contra and every assassination in between, but the granddaddy of them all was the takedown of the USSR, known as Project Hammer.

According to eight sources cited by Heidener, on September 11, 1991, President George H.W. Bush used the trust to secretly issue $240 billion. in bonds, which funded an economic blitzkrieg to end the Cold War. Project Hammer consisted of the following four major covert operations. The theft of Soviet treasury, currency destabilization of the ruble, funding of the KGB General's August 1991 coup against Gorbachev, and the takeover of key energy and defense industries in the Soviet Union. The coup attempt was an embarrassing failure,

but it notably resulted in the assassination of Robert Maxwell, father of the now infamous Gilae Maxwell, who operated as a middleman between the CIA, Mossad, and the traitorist elements of the KGB. On the other hand, the financial and economic schemes worked brilliantly. The Soviet economy collapsed. The political apparatus of the USSR was forced to dissolve. The conspirators behind Project Hammer achieved a tremendous victory in 91,

but they still faced two significant dangers. First, everything they had just done was highly illegal. and investigations were lost to figure out what had happened. It was easy enough for the U.S. government to ignore calls for transparency on the international stage, but its own office of naval intelligence was also beginning to follow the money. Second, the bonds, which enabled the operations, still needed to be settled. As part of the normal settlement process, the parties involved in the bonds would need to be publicly identified.

The bonds were set to mature 10 years after they were issued and had to be settled no later than September 12, 2001. Just 24 hours before that deadline, those two birds would be killed with one stone. The attacks on 9-11, the attacks on 9-11 weren't just targeted at specific buildings, but the specific offices within those buildings. The primary targets in the World Trade Center seem to have been Cantor Fitzgerald in Tower 1

and Eurobrokers in Tower 2. Both companies were responsible for managing, U.S. government's securities, and each plane struck just below their offices, which were incinerated well before the towers collapsed. Any certificates for bonds stored in the basement were also destroyed. The section of the Pentagon, which was struck, had been under construction for two years and was almost completely unoccupied, except for the Office of Naval Intelligence, which was moved there about a month earlier. Later, after that afternoon, the Federal Reserve and the Securities and Exchange Commission declared an emergency for the first time.

in their history, even though their systems were unharmed in the attacks. Under these emergency protocols, many of the rules governing trades and settlements were suspended for two weeks to keep businesses operating. For this short period, it was possible to substitute the illegal securities for valid government securities and to do so without reporting identity of ownership because the offices of the primary securities brokers had been wiped out. Not only did the holders of the bonds not get caught for their role in Project Hammer, but they actually got paid off legitimately. And because the investigators on their trail were also neutralized, they still had gotten, they have still gotten away with it to this day. And in conclusion, the information

above barely scratches, this is John Carroll reading again, barely scratches the surface of the evidence presented in Heidener's paper, which lays out step by step how these crimes were committed. This blog post is intended to merely relay the basic narrative in layman's terms in order to facilitate further questions and discussion. The crimes were so complicated and so precise that reading the full paper makes it seem as though the cover-up of the Black Eagle Trust's existence was the primary motive for staging the attacks. When this piece of the puzzle is combined with everything else that has been exposed over the years, the scope of the conspiracy becomes absolutely mind-boggling because, as we know, there's a lot of pokers in this fire. There are geopolitical,

considerations being made, financial considerations being made, privacy and intelligence sharing considerations being made for the future. I mean, there's so much. So to say that, oh, this is the reason for it all. And it's, yeah, it was a massive show of force by the powers that be. It took almost 20 years for the world to have the chance to witness another operation of that size. It's been said many times, on quite frankly, that living through the COVID pandemic was like living through 9-11 in slow motion. That slow motion gave us the time to realize what was actually being done to us. The worst crime in the last two years wasn't the mask mandates, the lockdowns, or even the death. Rather, it was the brainwashing men to cripple the human spirit in hindsight. And with this more recent

experience, we can understand how 9-11 did the same thing. 9-11 shattered not only our innocence, but our perception of reality. It created a world so threatening, that endless war and mass surveillance became perceived as the only path to peace and safety. That phenomenon is too often used to discourage us when it should actually be our greatest source of hope. The real lesson at the bottom of the 9-11 rabbit hole is that it is only possible. It is not only possible, it is relatively easy to get the whole world to do something. 9-11 proved that the power to manually create a new reality exists, and when enough people realize that that power can finally be,

used for good. Ooh. See, this is, in my opinion. This is why listening to the only place that you can ever have real conversations, whether you believe that or not, as he's stated, you know, starting the conversation, are shows like this.

There is no mainstream media coverage of 9-11 unless you want to hear the same story told for 25 years. And I have no interest in that anymore. And I don't mean to be rude. but I don't even have a desire to listen to Rudy Giuliani tell the stories again. Like, again, those people were the victims. I know they were also in positions of authority and they were, you know, shepherding us through that, but let's face it,

they're also tangential victims of the crime. And I believe that their very existence depends on them protecting the narrative. I mean, how many times has Rudy Giuliani actually said the words? All I can say is thank God George W. Bush was president on 9-11. I mean, that is a protective mechanism. And I have no desire to hear that

from people like that. You know, much respect for everything that he did on 9-11. But again, he needs to grieve. He needs to believe what he needs to believe. The rest of us need to understand what actually happened. So I just have no desire to listen to those people

recycle the same stuff. When you say never forget, you know, I always ask the question, you know, what are we not forgetting? Like, we don't know the story. Yeah, see, And that's where, and I love how John put that in here here as well because COVID, you know, when we were starting to realize, oh, it's the same thing we've done this before. Yeah.

That it was, it was actually the ability to cripple the human spirit and also make it hard for people to comprehend what's happening. I mean that that doesn't mean that someone like me or any member of the audience over here who just doesn't. feel, I don't know, doesn't believe what's going on on television ever has all of the answers. Of course not. But at the same time, in knowing that we're not going to know everything, you could make some really great decisions into how to prioritize your own interests. And that's mental and physical health and also community building that is going to, that's going to be a little bit more resilient to all this nonsense.

because what you were saying before, like, for example, this happened in Manhattan last night. This is a drone show. Did you see this? No, and I usually see the beams from my, I can stand on my balcony and see the beams because I only live one block from the East River. So this is nearly, I didn't see that. This is nearly 3,000 drones that go up, they go up in like a double helix. Like the infinity symbol. Yeah, and then look what they organize into.

They what? Yeah, this was last night. What? The drones organized into the actual shadow of the twin towers. But the beams are actually where the twin towers were. Right. Correct? Yeah, they couldn't put them on top because then the beams would expose the actual drones.

Oh, got it, got it, got it. Okay. But still, the size and scale, I guess they tried to keep it as close to close as possible. I'm going out tomorrow to look, or tonight or tomorrow. I think it's gone. No, those, that's, I mean, they don't have enough battery power to stay up for days. No, but I mean, you think they're not going to do anything on 9-11? Well, I'm pretty sure that the, I'm pretty sure that the, uh, that the, uh, that the beams are still up.

Oh, yeah, the beams. I mean, I don't know, maybe I thought they would do something again, but last night was the, I don't know, well, that is, I wish I knew that. I would have, I mean, I can walk over to the shore of the East River. I would have loved to have just seen that. That's fascinating. It pretty is, it is pretty spectacular. But the same time, I'm looking at that, I'm saying, I'm not going to say in a city with 9 million people in there, and many of them over the age of 40, that there aren't people who care and care deeply. But as far as the next two generations that have come on up

and how drastically our culture has changed, like I said, the last couple of years where public opinion can be in any way, shape, or form galvanized in like a quasi-patriotic way, that's all gone. And when you say, and like, for example, I think about the whole never forget thing. And then I think about the, again, the election of Zoran Mamdani.

Now, I am, it's been so long since I ever ascribed the entirety of the 9-11 story to Islam. Because Islam doesn't have these resources. It's such an oversimplification. Over simplification. No doubt about it. So when people say never forget, and then when Zoran Mamdani is, you know,

is a communist nepo baby retard that is elected by fresh generations of high-functioning retards. And people go, it looks like we forgot. It's like, you know, see, see, that's the whole thing there. But that's the thing where there's actually a nuanced point in there. Never Forget means the official story. Exactly. And if the official story, the official story is that there is this and, you know,

and that is still, I watch it people who actually give the official story a lot of credence in there, and they are electing. the Muslim and the communist. And it's a very strange time right now. It really is. I just stumbled upon, I was telling you this earlier this morning, I stumbled upon this incredible lecture at Dartmouth. It was six years ago.

So it was just before the 20th anniversary. By a guy named James Crenler. Crenler. Crenler is an attorney representing some of the families of 9-11. This lecture is pretty. pretty spectacular because, again, it does not, like my interest is not in the architect. I mean, that's the window dressing and it's important and it is interesting to me. It's like the Kennedy assassination.

The, you know, going to Dealey Plaza, the shooters, you know, the physics of it. Very interesting. Like, and I think there's a lot to that. There's a lot of merit to discounting the official narrative by disproving the physics of the magic bullet or of the collapsing towers. But he goes into all of the intelligence failures, the Saudi connections, to the Bush, the things that the commission, the 9-11 commission, like the Warren Commission, were forbidden to look at. And when you really, to me, that's the, that's the entry point to saying,

well, I don't know what happened, like you said. It's not like I claim to have all the answers of the Kennedy assassination or of 9-11, but I damn well know enough to know the official story is a lie. And so when you, from start to finish, like the lies before 9-11, then the cover up and the lies after 9-11 from the president himself i mean provable lies so you just have to ask yourself when someone lies what's the reason because if the truth is the truth and all the evidence presented you know like i mean you could look at anything frank it's not just 9-11 it's the the oklahoma city bombing why why do we not we have video of timothy mcvay supposedly driving the rider truck up to the front of the mural federal building and the and the and the and the truck exploding

why has no one ever seen that video? I wonder. Because if it showed what the narrative purports to be, the truth of the Oklahoma City bombing, it would be no problem. But we haven't seen it because, oh, I don't know, maybe John Doe No. 2 gets out of the passenger side,

and maybe John Doe No. 2 is a government, FBI, CIA informant. You know, who knows? There was a manhunt for John Doe number 2 for about a month. And then it was like, eh, he didn't exist. So, I mean, it's like, it's thing after thing. So that's what I mean.

And so anyway, that particular YouTube video was a great breakdown of the things that you can prove to be false so that then you don't get saddled with arguing with people about a collapsing building or things that I don't know anything about. That's not my area of expertise, but I can follow the money and I can follow the intelligence failures. And that's enough. That was always enough for me to set the stage for, well, they're lying. So there's got to be a reason they're lying. They're lying about the Kennedy assassination. They're lying about 9-11. They lied about Oklahoma City.

Do I know everything that happened? No, but why are they lying? Right. Yeah, it's as simple as a chain of custody was broken. Absolutely. And at that point, that point, the whole thing is untrustworthy. And there's no, you can't put that thing back together. It's the Humpty Dumpty situation.

But of course, right now, I believe we're so emotional, the culture is so spiritually incapacitated that people still believe the official story, but they have actually taken on a sort of a, a penitential slant on the whole thing or a penitential position on the whole thing where we deserved it.

We deserved it. Yeah, perhaps those people were involved and it was a bad thing, but you know what? We deserved it. Look at all of our meddling around the world. The first, you know, our civilization has just ruined the whole world. We deserved it. There are people, that's how disabled they are

in that respect. And here's another thing. Here's somebody who does and really get into a lot of the technical aspects of things. But like you said, has seen enough to say, it's not real. And that's David Lynch. Here's David Lynch commenting on actually a documentary, a good friend of ours, Jason Burmiss, had a big part in producing, Loose Change. Take a listen to this.

And you suggested to me show a part of a clip of the documentary Loose Change by Dylan Avery. The film sums up in a way that all the theories about US government having planned the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center. It's the things that, you know, make you look at what you thought you saw in a different light. At the World Trade Center, three buildings came down like demolition, and two of them were hit by a plane. but the third one, they said you want us to pull it, and they pulled it, and it looked just like the other two. Those things bother me. So every place, there's questions coming from this documentary, and you don't have to believe everything in the documentary to still have questions come up. And you look back and you remember what you saw and what you were told, and now you have questions.

Well, you know how the 9-11 commission, which is the thorough official word about what happened on 9-11, you know what they said about building 7. On fire. Wasn't it office fires? No, they said nothing. Oh, nothing. They didn't actually mention building seven. So a building collapsed on 9-11, and the 9-11 commission decided, what building? They didn't mention it, Frank.

So, I mean, I don't know. It's like, I don't know. it's like the Kennedy assassination without mentioning Kennedy. I mean, how do you reconcile that? Well, you reconcile it because if you include it, you debunk your, you re-bunk your debunking. You know, that's why you can't, you can't include it. So that's very, that's very obvious. Like, why does the news, you know, deflect, deflect people away from the truth instead of bringing

them to the truth because they're part of the operation. Of course. So that's just something that that's another thing that we've gotten very, very used to over the years. They were just obvious, obvious what's going on. Okay. So listen, it's the, it's the, it's the, we have a lot more to do. It's not the halfway point. It is. It's eight o'clock. Not our halfway point. Yeah, we have a third hour to go. But listen, I just want to also just thank our friend Molly, Keto Brains. You guys know the deal. I use it. I love it every day, and they have been a really great friends and supporters of this show. And I've actually impacted a lot of your lives now, too.

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you're not going to regret it. Nope. It's a game changer. Here's the other thing, though. Into your super chats. Guys, I'm giving away 10 prizes tonight. What? Yeah.

The first one, it's going to be 10, 10 postcards. I want that alien. There is, I've got some 4th of July postcards. We have left over five of those. I have some postcard, the first generation postcard left over, Dominic's ice cream truck from the springling. Nice. Yeah. Okay. And then we have three more that survived from the summer one from August that has all the great picture collages of me and Aurora on all different rides and stuff like that. So I'm pulling 10 names from all the people who sent super chats this week. I already got you put down. But whoever sent in a super chat tonight, you are in it too. And I'm going to send out 10 postcards. The first postcard will come with 50 cents. No, not 50 cents. It is two.

1950s quarters. So they are silver. You're going to get two silver quarters. The second one is going to get five ounces of 250 of America copper. And then the last eight people, then the third person is going to get an alien. I love that guy.

And then the other seven people are just going to get postcards. But it's something. It's something. You know? So 10 winners tonight. Send in something. That's incredible. And you're in on it. Okay. Shotsie says, good evening, gentlemen. Good evening. Sending a little, frankly, support. ST says I was supposed to be there. I lived on the 33rd floor of the building facing

hollowed ground. I knew the fire chief who put the first water, first water on first. God rest his soul, says Stee. Yeah. Katie Sky says speaking of Howard Stern, did you see the picture of him without his wig on this week? That wasn't really real. He doesn't have a wig. Is it true? That was that real? That was that real? I've seen that picture of him walking with Beth, and he had that still, that jet black slinky hair on. And I thought that somebody just rendered it. Howard Stern without the wig. There's no way.

I mean, his hair is not jet black anymore naturally. I'm sure he dyes it, but I didn't think it was a wig. Could this picture be the closest evidence we have of Howard Stern without the wig? Oh, okay, well, this is, this is, hold on. This is the picture she's talking about. Hold on. Look. Whoa. Now, I'm pretty certain.

That's got to be AI. I'm pretty certain that I saw them walking together the same scene with his, that cropped-up grandma hair of his. Now, which one's AI? I guess the question. And that's what we need Bill Gates for. We need to figure, all the AI is going to kill us all. He's got to protect us from AI.

He's part of the, he's part of the, he's part of the, he's part of the, he's part of the, the warning. Get out of here. The guy who wants to block out the sun, force medications on you, and have you eat fake meat is going to protect us from AI. He's part of it. I'm dubious. He's always part of it. He cares about us so much. He does. He's the watcher on the wall. He really does. He cares. Our good friend Grace, really graceful, put out a, a little bit of, she did like a basement stream or something like that earlier on because this story about the AI that we'll get into sometime within the next 25 minutes. it's, I'm telling you, it reeks a Patriot Act.

That's why I thought it was related over here. But call in everybody, because here's the first thing I want to put up. I got a community post here that you may not be in on. I'm putting it in the chat rooms. There's the community post. It's on YouTube, but I would love to see you guys talk to each other and have a good time with this one to whatever degree you can. The community post asks this.

25 years after 9-11, what is the most important thing to preserve for the next generation? Number one, how the aftermath changed civic life. Number two, stories of rescue and sacrifice. I think that goes a very long way in preserving what we were talking about, the human spirit that gets absolutely dismantled. Number three, testimony from architects, engineers, and the firsthand witnesses. And then, of course, there is other. And then for that you go into the comments We'll be able to go into the comments in just a little bit

Cool It really is Here's another view of the formation of the drones I can't believe I missed this last night Yeah And well I mean I didn't learn about it until this morning I was watching the Patriots lose Oh really

Patriots lost to whom The Seahawks It was a Super Bowl rematch Oh I get you Look at that So that's how they This is the weird thing. This is how they start going up.

That's freaky. In the double helix. I'm going two times of speed right now. 88. There's 88 miles per hour. Somebody's going to break down the symbols. I wonder what Ryan Gable saw in all this stuff. There's probably something much deeper.

I immediately saw infinity, which would make sense. Well, I saw DNA. DNA. And that's how they all, that's how they ascended. And then they started taking form. formation into the actual towers themselves. And I don't see the actual tower come to, there they are.

And then suddenly it's just full on bingo, bingo. They like shut off their lights and then turn them on it. Yeah, I mean, that is cool. Yeah. But again, not important if you're not getting to the heart of the issue. It feels empty to me. I understand why. It always, all this stuff just feels empty to me.

I know the reading of the names and the ringing of the bells. I'm all over that stuff, man. Until we have the truth, I don't want to hear about it anymore. Again, let the grieving grieve. They deserve it. The rest of us need the truth. But I think the reason why it gets so much, it's so much heavier as time goes on is because, again,

we haven't mentioned it once yet, but today is a year since Charlie Kirk died. That's true. One year, you know, which means it's a week since the jamboree. We had one week of basking in the last, Last September, the jamboree. We had, my God, I didn't even, I didn't even really make that connection that that assassination happened a week after the jamboree.

We had one week to bask in the glow of that. And we were dealing with another kind of like a 9-11 kind of shock. You're right. And that was on the 10th. Wow. You know, so we got to hear that. And again, between today and seeing the viciousness and the animalistic way that people conduct themselves on the internet gloating over a person's death.

It's disgusting. And it's all rooted in... Even if you didn't like them, it's disgusting. It's just, it's rooted in the worst types of ignorance. That and 9-11, this is used by everybody to be able to beat the other person over the head. Just like both parties try to, try to claim rights over the, over the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Republicansans, they were. They were essentially the party of that dominated the north and created what we have today. They get to really, you know, take a victory lap for freeing the slaves.

But then the Democrats just say, no, the party switched. You know, and it's all the same shit. You'll switch around. I know. And now 9-11, every politician, every politician you hear tomorrow, which is why I won't be listening to much of it. Yeah. I'll do my own reflections, my own prayer.

and just try to just chill that out a little bit. But what you'll hear primarily through everybody is very nonspecific speak about how we need to reject extremism of all types. Useless, useless words. Of all types. And again, this is with a starting point of an official story that people like you and I,

though we don't like a Zoran Mamdani, on principle for what they represent, I don't accept the official story and I wouldn't be flabbergasted about how New York City can slide in this direction given what happened to I can see how that would apply to other people but that doesn't affect other people anymore

those are unenlightened people who still don't give a shit so that's I think is the biggest part that there's a lot of spiritual bankruptcy right now and to make these drones float up in the air and watch those ghostly structures stand tall for a couple of minutes again before the batteries run out, that doesn't, it doesn't feel as, as awe-inspiring as it would have even 20 years ago. If we had progressed in a positive way as a society, it might.

But as you said, because we still don't have the truth, and in many ways we've regressed and lost so much more since then, it rings hollow for me too. And that's why I can't do the ceremonies and no matter who covers it. I don't care who it is. They're not doing it justice by not really representing the facts that we have and what happened. Again, I'll say it one more time. The grieving deserve to have their grief in any way they like, whatever they want to believe. I would never begrudge anybody who can't handle listening to people debate what happened on 9-11.

But the rest of us, there's a duty. to understand what happens so that things never happen again. And again, I say the same thing that you do with the phrase, never forget. It's just, it doesn't mean anything to me because we don't have the truth. Well, you know,

and we're going to get to your call. I see some calls coming in right now. 914-200-0269. Give us a buzz. Tell us what you were doing the night before or anything else that came up for you tonight. Again, we don't need to go,

don't have to give us the technical schematics of the buildings. we don't have to, let's just save our breath on that, please. Please. We've done it for however many years, every time that Fairbanks, Alaska or somebody does a, you know, another experiment testing on how possible it all was. We don't need to do that tonight. What were you doing the night before? I don't remember I was doing the night before. Because it was, you know, we just going to bed.

Yeah, I had school the next day. Inocuous day because, and it's amazing how our memory works that way, right? tragedy imprint on the mind. So you can remember everything about 9-11, but you remember nothing about that the day, just 24 hours before or even 24 hours after in such detail. That's how imprintable the mind is with intense emotion. Yes, indeed.

Let's take a call. John, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey, what's up, Frank? Hey. Hey. Hey, man. So, yeah, you know, the thing that makes it ring so hollow,

is the intention, you know, everything is intention. And the fact that there is no group, that there's no, there's been no acknowledgement on a mass scale of what really went on, who was behind it, it actually, it makes me sick. Yeah. To see it go, I mean, literally it makes me sick. you can't you can't progress past this point until there's some accountability for what happened

and we all keep hoping and waiting for this moment where these morons are going to realize that the hodgeys hiding in kays in Afghanistan had nothing to do with taking down these powers it's it's 25 years later we still like i have an uncle he's a nuclear engineer i'm a tennis pro I'm explaining to him why jet fuel burning wouldn't melt the steel beams and get the towers to come back

I'm a flunky tennis pro this guy's a nuclear engineer I'm explaining to him he believes the bullshit it's shocking I keep hoping that there's going to be some moment where everything comes out and there's some disclosure

and then you can move past the point but we're just stuck in this fucking loose. Yeah. We talked about that. I don't want to bring it up again and go into it, but you remember the day of the day after the election, it was me, you and Rich Barris. We were talking about,

you really want to make a dent. Disclosure is the best way to help keep a fragile and diverse coalition together because everybody can unite around a lie exposed. And, you know, we haven't got to get, but I'm with you my friend. The biggest snuff film ever produced and broadcast on a mass scale.

which caused everybody to have this trauma so that way they could cast a spell to keep everybody asleep and accept whatever bullshit they put on us, whatever rule, like the Patriots, literally everything is inverted, and obviously the Patriot Act has nothing to do is being patriotic. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, that's a great name. That's one way of putting it, the largest snuff film ever produced in public. Thank you for the call, John. Hey, I understand what he's saying.

Again, I had a doctor or somebody we trust. Tell me the flu went away because everybody was wearing the masks. And I said, oh, go, boy. All right, let's take a call. Let's take a call. 616, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey, Frank, it's Casey.

Oh, Casey. How are you? Doing well, gentlemen. How are you? Well, well, good, good to have you on. So what's on your mind tonight? It's a lot. Yeah, I just wanted to let you know that probably the night before 9-11, I was a degenerate youth having just graduated high school about, maybe four months earlier, five months earlier.

And I was probably smoking weed, shitty brickweed with some friends. shitty brickweed. There you go. But, no, the 25th is different, man. I don't know why, probably because I'm more time has elapsed. between then and now than I had lived on this earth on that day, you know? Oh, that's a crazy way of thinking about it. But, Jay, I totally agree with you to let the people that directly lost somebody or whatever

grieve and don't try to push, you know, narratives on them or whatever, but aren't all of us still grieving? Sure. Or is it just me? Well, grieving different things, right? For sure. For sure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

I mean, that's the reason why, like, for example, I got to show you this. There is a, there's a clip right now that is that, that it was going on, and I see it every year, and I love it. And you know what? I have fond memories of the steroid era in baseball. Fond memories. And here, here's Sammy Sosa carrying the American flag. The first, that first game back, he was on the Cubs at the time. And running out in Chicago with the American flag going out.

to center field and it's still you jacked out of his mind and still like take take a look everybody going nuts and that kind of now the other thing here too is when i look into the comments everybody is saying the same thing um this version of america doesn't exist anymore and it hurts yeah i think that's the biggest part right now it's it's a little bit like you know when you go to a wake or a funeral and whereas you're dealing with the loss, you're in the thick of it, you're saying goodbye. And you know that there's going to be hard days afterwards,

but there's something about, there is almost a, there's a dark sense of relief about the whole thing there too, and especially when you're held up by people that you love who are living and with you, your friends and your family. There's that dynamic at a funeral home or a church

or wherever the hell it is. And I feel like in very, very, very, in very large ways. That's almost the kind of energy everybody got to tap into 25 years ago, that the absence of that in every respect, like there's nothing that invokes that kind of widespread compassion anymore. We just talked about Charlie Kirk, the demon behavior coming out of people a year later, that there's celebration dances because people had a, not because they supposedly

flew, hijacked a plane or set a bomb off somewhere, but because they had a different opinion than you. Like, what the fuck? What does that mean? I think that's why everything is just so heavy as time goes on, because we drift away from that almost like hearth and home kind of feel that we had. And social media obviously wasn't a thing back then. I mean, MySpace probably existed, but that's about it, I think. And I think we're more siloed in many ways, which makes it a lot easier to exist in an echo chamber. I just did, you know, the live I was doing before we hopped on the air for our community was all about cognitive inertia and how getting trapped in those silos and repeating the same patterns over and over again make growth, personal growth, almost impossible.

And I think in a lot of ways, that is what social media has given us. It's given us some positive. There's no doubt, but as we always say, you know, with any weapon, it can be used for good. And you can be used for evil. And I think, you know, not to use those words, social media is just a tool, but it's been weaponized. And I don't think some of the things that people say, I know some of the things that people feel empowered to say in a comment section on a post that they would ever have the courage or the guts to say to anybody in real life. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's a big deal. And this whole, where you all are going with this brings me back to something I thought about with both of your community survey on YouTube today and your chat survey on YouTube in the YouTube chat

was one of them had like kind of one of the answers had to was connected kind of to the other answers which was I think you asked like what is the thing you miss the most and the reason that we all grieved I think that everybody in America grieved 9-11 even if you didn't know somebody was because we had that common culture. And the flip side of that coin is all of the things that we should preserve moving forward, or maybe that was the same survey. Anyway, the internet and social media and smartphones are kind of what have driven us into these silos and made us separate and stripped us of our common culture. Because you're just inundated now with everything. I mean, you have your own algorithm that feeds you crap all day long,

whatever it thinks you're going to, you know, have an emotional reaction to, essentially. And that, I think, has, like, really, it was supposed to bring us together, but Jay, you're right, it weaponized it, ended up in us being further and further apart. In most cases. You're right, and to use COVID as an example,

that, you know, you could hijack people, people's reality with an algorithm. In other words, you know, if you believed on your social media feed that people were dropping dead of some mystery illness, but you go outside and that's not actually what's happening, you will choose to believe the algorithm because that is where you maybe spend more of your time. Well, you want to hear here. Here's another thing that kills people as far as staying on. It's a little bit off topic, but not.

because I think it speaks to, you know, human tendency. What Casey's bringing up and what we were talking about, like the underlying thing, what makes 25 years actually feel a little bit more heavy than it would have otherwise, you know, you think time heals all wounds and why do things feel a little bit more, I don't know, dingy as years go on, at least for me. And I think that's just because what made it easier to get through it. at first is all gone, and that is a lot of camaraderie. We are very balkanized, but it is to even like micro levels where people find,

they find a tribe that is microscopic. And they, and they, they guard their in-group theories and they're in-group thoughts on everything, things that make cross-compatibility with other micro-tribes impossible. Yeah. You know, so it's, you know, like, like, K. I have a very hard time finding myself a cafeteria table these days. I really do. Absolutely, man.

Yeah, it's brutal out there. I mean, when you find, if I were able to find a microscopic trap of any of nine people that I, you know, saw eye to eye with on every single little caveat of what it means to be an adult in public, I would, I would guard it with my everything too, man, because it ain't nobody. they're just, that isn't a thing. And the real danger of that as well is that in that microscopic tribe, it becomes such an enclosure unto itself that you can convince yourself that it's larger than it actually is.

Because you're not out there experiencing the real world the way it actually exists. So again, your virtual world becomes the reality and everything is inverted. And that's why you can't function in the actual real world anymore. And that is terrifying. Because any of us with kids right now that are in, you know, elementary age or in school age, it's like what kind of other adults are they going to be adults with? Oh, no. Oh, shit. Casey, why did you have to say that?

We're all screwed. We're all going to die. My mind, dude. Kids, my son's age with phones and shit. And I'm like, are they even, are they going to be feral when they all get to work if they go to work? Yeah. I mean. I know.

I know. Well, at least we'll be able to prepare them. We'll have some foresight. And wow, thanks for the call, Casey. This is the good one. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, you bet. Have a good night, guys.

Yeah, here, here. Before we get to the other calls that are coming in, I have to throw the, it's a little piece of green, a little piece of green text from 4chan that I think it really does apply to what we're talking about up here and our tendencies. You know, we're talking about the ability to, to shirk reality because we found a fish ball. that legitimizes and validates all the little things that used to just be ironed out of us when steel sharpens steel in the real world. You know, we're allowed to, now there's so many ways that we can allow ourselves

to become dull, blunt instruments thinking that we're like really getting in on it. Here it is. It's a little extreme out there, everybody, so just take it for what it is. Before the internet. Before the internet, I want to fuck toasters, but you don't be a fucking.

retard and you grow up. After the internet, I want to fuck a toaster. You go to Google, you find a community with a thousand plus members about people wanting to fuck toasters and you fuck up your life. And that, that's it. This is how the world is. It is true. This is how the world is today. Yeah. And then you convince us all that everyone fucks toasters. Yeah. Yeah. Or it's totally natural. Yeah. And you look at people that don't fuck toasters like they're the weirdos. Look, these thousand people, they understand me. Non-toaster fucker. You know, just I can't. The world is moving.

I don't know. Okay. And listen, everybody, please. Like the show, share the show. Hey, that could be a quite frankly t-shirt. Toaster fucker. Yeah. Or don't, just agree.

Don't be a retard. Don't be a fucking retard. Grow up. Green text. So, so that you have it. So please give this episode a like. I know that we have a good amount of people. There should be as many people voting on YouTube at people's watching.

Okay, just over there in particular, that's where the chat poll is up. So I should probably do that. Let's get 100 people, at least 100 more people voting in there. And then just, you know, light up the chat rooms and leave likes and become members and whatever the hell else. Stick with us. Let's take a call 3, 47. Local. Go ahead.

Hi, this is Rachel calling. Rachel, welcome. I just want to. Thank you. I just wanted to thank you, Frank, for all these years of reporting. It's giving me something great to listen to. And Jay, your health stuff has actually helped me a lot. And I'm calling because I have something I just wanted to share with everyone because I was 35, When 9-11 happened, I used to work near the Trey Towers, and I was a first responder volunteer. And I've had serious health issues since then, and I'm on oxygen.

I basically live like 70% of my life from my bed. I have adrenal immunity failure and kidney and liver challenges. And I got God with me to just keep going, seeking solutions. I've been in the 9-11 treatment program since 2005. And most people don't realize that more people died since, 9-11 happened on the day of 9-11 and we're all still struggling and my groups starting in 2006 we made four films about the toxic dust and trying to find out what it really is and what we're really sick with and I've been doing all kinds of detoxification.

for mercury lead, chlamium, arsenic, aluminum, but also radiation poisoning. I lost 50% of my hair fell out and I had skin lesions all over my body when I came back from there from volunteering. And we've been seeking those answers and we made all these films that have been censored. And one of the things that we realized when we were asking about the dust, you know, I went into the program already knowing that my integrative doctors had tested, said I had all these toxic heavy metals. And I went in the World Trade Program and they told me there was no such a thing. that my body would have naturally detoxed it if that was the case. Now we're learning more and more,

and that led us in our films down this path of the due energy weapons, which is constantly censored, and the building six that no one looks at had a whole disintegration hole down the center of it. And it's something that nobody looks into, except for the lady, Dr. Judy Wood, scientist just started asking questions, and then she got censored. And our films were so badly censored that we were put in court and gag ordered. And I just want to share that information. I believe I'm I still can get healed, but I need integrative medicines. And I just don't think that people should just at 25 years later think we're getting the help that we need because we don't, we don't get anything paid for.

I, my going after help and getting integrative, I pay out of pocket and I'm currently homeless. So we're choosing between a place to live or pay for our medical stuff out of pocket because World Trade Center treatment program is only pharmaceuticals. And I had kidney and liver damage. and I just think more people need to realize there's so much more layers to this. Yes. Maybe there were thermite, maybe bombs, all this other stuff we've seen, but there's way more to it. And it needs, I'm sorry. I just have trouble with my breathing.

It's okay, Rachel. You've said, you've said more than enough. You don't have to stress yourself out 100%. And, you know, this is, I appreciate your. call. We, this was, this just came up recently. I, uh, I don't know, John Stewart made another. Yeah. You made another, like there's, there's a lot more health related files being released about what's been suppressed the last 25 years. I don't know. I don't know how much more funding that is going to be made available for people like yourself and how much, how freely, if you are,

do qualify for money, how freely you're going to be able to go and use that to, treatment plans that speak more to you that are non-pharmaceutical. I don't know, but there's a lot more people than than you think out there, Rachel, that are acknowledging, you know, what the even greater impact was outside of September 11th. And you're right. Many, quite a few times over the deaths that were related to all of the destruction down there in lower Manhattan have, happen right here in the United States, not related to the war on terror, which reaches into the millions. So you're not unheard.

Your voice is not being ignored. Thank you. And Jay, I, like, I'm living on adrenal failure, so I'm on three steroids to have my blood pressure high enough that I can, you know, function. I'm on these drugs. but I want to be drug-free, but I just want you to know, and Frank, your advertising for, like, keto, like, products that, like, these are the things that actually, I think, set me apart because everyone in our films now has died except me. Wow. Everyone we interviewed.

And so I'm doing integrative and energy medicine and other things that. But this is why I'm still here, and I'm praying with God. The truth comes out for everyone to really know. We have to know truth. Truth is part of love. Rachel, but before we go, I don't want to forget to ask you, because people in several chat rooms now are asking, A, what film?

If you can send me the link to any film that you produced, I can share it around. And if you have a GoFundMe or something that is set up for your particular case that a person would be able to review to help you if there's, if there's any, any room for that as well, I, I'd be willing to,

to pass that around a little bit if you can send that into the show, especially the, the movies. Okay. Should I email it? Yeah, you could, how do I do it?

Yeah, just send it to frank at quite frankly. tv and you can, you can drop the link to whatever film that you were a part of. And if you, you had to go fund me or something. something like that, I'd like to provide it to people who are asking right now. And, but I definitely don't want to stress you out anymore.

You've already said more than enough tonight, and we thank you for the call. Thank you for listening and everyone stay strong. Yes, you too, please. And thank you for taking the time tonight, Rachel. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, have a good night. Yeah, man.

That's what I mean. Truth matters. We're talking like, I don't know if we've broken 10,000, 10,000 deaths since then, here in the U.S. And like I said, not related to war on terror. Right. You know? Because that's, that's just insane. Let's take one more call.

Let's take another call. Let's go for it. 219. You're on the air. Go ahead. Hey, Frank. John, how are you? Go ahead.

Hey, I love you. Shout out to Qumagu. a 219 challenge. So, thinking about 219 and 9-11 and what it meant to me, you guys were talking last week about ownership. And the thing that came to me was a movie. Drew Barrymore, I'm so embarrassed.

Do you know that movie where she was ever after? And she got robbed by some gypsies. And the gypsy said, you know what? You can take whatever you want with you. And so she put the prince on her back and she walked away. So it got me thinking, what do we really own? What do we? It's what we can carry with us and what we can defend.

And this also ties into women demanding power. You know, they rely on the men. and they can't defend it. And I'm just thinking, again, like, and then you got into the music. Just trying to condense everything really quickly here, Frank. From what? From like last week's show, or is this about tonight? Last two weeks.

The last two weeks, and you were talking about music. Well, we're talking about 9-11 tonight, though. We're talking about 9-11, but what do we own? You know, this, we're not owning our, even our own thoughts anymore. These kind of things are fed to us. Do we

know what's happening in Iran? We don't. We don't even own our own thoughts. We're being forced-fed stuff. So the only things we own right now are stuff we see in our with our own eyes, what we can carry with us and what

we can defend in our own homes. And, you know, they're trying to scare the shit out of us with these these illusions and it's like Andy Dufrein in Shawshank you know it's like they can't take the music from me well before 9-11 music was something different completely different and they can't take that from me but now you know CDs you get a scratch on a CD it's gone you know you can't subscribe to something forever you got to pay for it forever So the things that we carry with us, our baggage, this trauma, we got to choose what we carry with us and what we're willing to defend.

I know this is kind of a rant. This is kind of a Q McGrew rant, but this is the 219 challenge. So I just wanted to throw that shit out and love you, Jay. Hey, man. Thank you. Thank you, John, Honor. You know, I mean, just to spin up that a little bit, I mean, I think it reiterates, a lot of the themes that you and I talk about a lot where when things feel completely out of

control or that you really don't know what to make of X, Y, or Z world event, because you're right, I have no idea what's going on and around. I mean, you can trust one news outlet or another. It doesn't mean that they're right. But to focus on the things like the land, the food, the things that you know are real and the things that you know you can mitigate the downsides, maximize the upsides, you know, thinking locally. I mean, we talk about that all the time. That's the way to reinforce your own life. So having a little bit of land, being able to grow some of your own food, know your neighbors, create a small little community. I mean, I really do believe that in many ways, human biology was set up for that. It was not, we've talked

about this before too. We were not set up for this onslaught of information from all across the globe 24 hours a day, seven days a week. We're not meant for that. Our minds aren't meant for that. to be able to just fixate locally is not fixating at all. It is actually caring about the true world around you rather than the perception of the rest of the world that you have through a variety of different algorithms and media outlets. The algorithm is that it trickles down to how everybody runs their lives.

Because I really do think that people come to a breaking point a lot quicker than you think. And they become fatigued. I see it a lot. I don't know how often. I mean, there's one thing to realize here is that we are all. And we can rest on the fact that so much of what we do professionally these days and and even personally with banking and commerce, whatever, going to the grocery store requires a phone and all the other stuff,

we can rest on that crutch, but we could also just, it takes a lot to admit we are addicted. We are a nation of addicts. We are addicted to the phone. It can become quite disturbing to be apart from that phone for a while. And we just kind of go to it habitually in a way that it is no doubt about it is an addiction. And every age is susceptible. I see it across the spectrum. Well, that's why it's not treated as an addiction too because we're all like codependent in it.

Yeah, totally. And it's so there's that. But when it comes to where people go to break away from things, People break away quite a bit. And because they, at least from the news stream, not from the device, of course, from the news stream. The only thing is that the news stream and the culture that's connected to, it dictates the way that we do everything from how we bank into, you know, what kind of phrases we use.

For example, Sammy Sosa before. Somebody in Chicago went and ran out into center field. with an American flag tomorrow night, that would probably be controversial for quite a few people. That would be a pretty controversial thing. You know, you talk about going back to a time when loving America was actually normal and being patriotic was apolitical.

And you just kind of wrapped yourself up in the flag and it was fine. And then all of a sudden, holding the flag meant that you're part of something, you know, that denies somebody. else's identity or denies a past transgression against a native tribe somewhere that you don't give a fuck about, you know. Recognition of stolen land. Yeah, man. It believes that's something that you can't put your phone down from. You know, you see it all around. That's where it gets a little bit more invasive because, hell, I don't even read the news that much in the last, not like I used to it,

especially in the last couple of months, I'm looking for other things. Yeah. Because my day, if I'm going to bring people something a little bit more, you know, exploratory at night, then got to go at least, you know, to the parapolitical world, but between the lines and not so much headline heavy. Like, for example, I saw, I only know,

I only know that last night President Trump, uh, pretty much told, everybody that the war is not going to be over until after the midterms. Yeah. Until I left to come here tonight and I saw, I walked past my mother's, my mother's place. And I saw on the television, the five o'clock news or something like that, Trump says that the Iran war will not end before the election. I'm like four weeks.

There's three weeks in and out. And you think it's going to end before Christmas. I mean, I have no clue. That's the thing. And I said to myself, I kind of like scoffed to myself. It's that, thank God I haven't been reading these headlines with bated breath. What, what, one letdown after another? Yeah.

What the fuck, you know? So it's, we've got choices to make, but it still shows up even when the phone is holstered. You know, that's what gets people. Well, again, I think that's what creating community, create. and I say that intentionally, you're not, you know, when you're a kid, the friends are the friends in the local area. You don't really have the opportunity to create it as much as it is just kind of a proximity effect. But as you become an adult, you can choose to move to a place where you feel like you might find more like-minded people, or you can just create a small little group of people, even in a place where your ideas are considered

fringe, you'll always find some people, and I mean in real life, I don't mean in chat rooms, I don't mean on social media circles. I mean, your job, I think, is to create a real network because nobody can do this life alone. So I look at it that way for survival, because I think that being able to, again, not to reiterate this, you know, but just to have access to clean food and all of those things. But also, I just think that's part of the human experience that we have outsourced to social media. Social media is not very social. It's really not at all.

Well, with that, with that, let's get to this last segment because the whole, you want to talk about survival and you want to talk about social media and how it really could just, some people are saying it's going to be the, it's going to be the vessel through which our final doom arrives and, you know, Skynet. Yeah, it's between that and like, you know,

goes or the gozerian. Ooh. Choose the form of the destructor. Choose. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't choose anything. Do you choose anything? When someone asks you if you were a God, you say yes. We got to watch that in a movie.

Maybe that's the second, maybe that's one of the October film nights will do. A good time of year for that, Ghostbusters. Okay, so listen to this. And this is absolutely ridiculous. You got to remember, this thread right here has a hundred, 159 million views right now. Whoa. And it's coming from an account,

coming from an account that has, like no activity on it. It was created this January. And it's got a quarter of a million followers? Because of this thread. Wow. It's been seen 159, you know, 159 million times. That's incredible.

It's been bookmarked over just about 300,000 times. Wow. And what this Jacob Coxon guy says, says I resigned from Anthropic today. Get you guys up on screen. Do you find out if he's real? He's real. He went on with, I have this over here.

He went on with Anderson Cooper. Oh, Anderson Cooper. It must be real. I know. I know. I'm saying literally that you believe that AI could kill us all by the end of the decade. How would that? that happened. Okay, so he's been talking about this. I spent the last three years doing pre-training

research at both open AI and Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They're acting straight to self-improving and superintelligence and gambling with our lives. Do not underestimate the power of this technology. These will soon be superhuman systems that can hack anything, revolutionize any field overnight, acquire real power and resources. We have all the witness, we have all witnessed the in each of these domains and progress is not slowing. People building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt of anything. Many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in press to sound sensible,

but I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of danger. The common response, quote, if they truly believe this, why are they still building it? at OpenAI, many have not deeply internalized the civilizational stakes. At Anthropic, the stakes are well understood, but they are locked in a race to get there first. They believe no one else will act responsibly, so they must do it themselves despite that risk. Accepting this race and entering the endgame is a hubristic gamble that should not be launched from a private company's slack.

Attempting to speed run alignment should require extraordinary confidence that there are no better trajectory. available. I'm optimistic about the potential for coordination. Warning shots like the hugging face attack have made pacing agreements between U.S. labs more viable. I don't feel like we are on track to prevent a global race, which may require costly actions such as temporary ban on improving model capabilities. So I want to talk about, talk to people like Jim Lee about this at some point. Yeah, what does he think? But I mean, I don't know. I haven't gotten him on the Actually, hold on a second. I mean, in general about, I mean, is he a little bit AI skeptical?

I don't know how jaded he is with the whole thing. He sees a lot of warning signs, but at the same time, he's not as naive to think that it's got to be stopped. We've got to stop it. Right, because I don't even know if that's possible. It's not going to be stopped. It's just not going to be stopped. But our friend Grace said this. This has Hegelian dialectic written all over it.

The whistleblower says, AI machine must be stopped. Two weeks ago, Bill Gates. was saying it couldn't be stopped. You already know the desired outcome isn't stopping AI. That's so silly. It's convincing us plebs that only a new global governing system, which could be built alongside the benevolent tech companies creating it, are the only ones who can safely manage what comes next.

I can see that too. Absolutely. I mean, again, is this happening on 9-11 week? Well, yeah. I mean, one of the things I think, The beauty of people like Bill Gates revealing themselves, because he is one of, he's like the Jim Kramer investment, right?

If you want to invest wisely, you're opposite Jim Kramer. He's the same way. If Bill Gates is involved with it, you don't want anything to do with it. Nothing. He has proven time and time again to never be on the side of humanity. So that's my default position.

If Bill Gates is trying to put stop gaps in guardrails and protect us from something, I think I'd take my chances with the A, I mean, there's even more. There's even more. The 24-hour checking is from Theo Jaffe. 123 million views, 656,000 likes, 190,000 followers. I've never seen any AI safety tweet goes this viral before ever.

Elon Musk responds and says, I don't think this has ever happened for a post from a new account with almost no prior activity. Yeah. I think I really do believe that Elon. must needs to clean house again over there. Yeah. That's number one. But then there's this.

MJ Truth Ultra put this out there. If I told you something was up with this, not even 48 hours ago, totally unknown AI researcher named Jacob Coxon's Post, told the world that AI was going to kill them all. It's now gained over $148 million at that time. The person created this account in January, never tweeted until this tweet. It does not make sense until you see who is pushing it nonstop. J. B. Pritzker, Bernie, Sanders, Ted Liu, New York Times writers, CNN writers, many, many other politicians, all in lockstep.

Yeah, and now it makes sense that he was on with Anderson Cooper. That's just more mouthpiece mockingbird media crap. It's just, you know, it's a lot, man. It's a lot. And of course, if there are three AI companies that are allowed to operate because at that point, it's just too dangerous for anybody else to have, to be. a newcomer or to be a young elephant led into the tent or anything like that. Whenever I see shit like this, it is usually the time when I say, well, I think we need a little bit more competition. We're not talking about, I think we need a little bit,

we need the ability for smarter people out there who are not connected to some kind of luciferian cabal to be able to give us some alternatives that might be able to at least give us some shelter. You know, if not present something that operates in,

in a functionally unbiased way. You know, that's something that is not pre-programmed to be able to nurture a certain worldview and make sure that every project, both corporate, personal, whatever the hell else, has a slant that always nudges everybody toward a preferred outcome. There's a lot of that there, you know. Yeah, I was just looking up that Jacob guy, just interesting. I mean, this may be because of that tweet, but his Wikipedia page was just created on September 9th yesterday.

Okay. Well, he was already rocking and rolling by then. So, but, you know, he had no presence before that. I mean, at least here anyway. It's funny, it's right on the top of the pages. Actually says this article has been nominated for deletion. Really? Interesting. Well, you know what?

We'll listen to a little bit of his, of his interview on the flip side. We have a, we have a lot to do on the flip side tonight. Yeah. And of course, I want to take more calls on the flip side. but for now. It just seems like a Potemkin village. It is. You know?

It is. Let me read you a little bit of what's going on in here. Start from the bottom of this. I'm torn between A and C, but I voted A. If I could vote for both. Beware the Tiny Hat Brigade, somebody says. That George Bush was responsible, was a globalist hit job.

We must not lose our liberties as an excuse for security. Problem is we've already loved. lost it. Yeah. Yeah. So we've lost our liberties and we don't have any security. We lost our liberties and the same people who took our liberties away also invaded our countries with tens of millions of third-worlders who actually despise the way that we live. And that's also, by the way, obviously, why there's no feeling of cultural cohesiveness anymore. Yeah. I mean, You can't invite that many people in who have no emotional attachment to the culture and then wonder why someone running on a baseball field with an American flag doesn't invoke the same emotion

because half the people at the ballpark probably don't even speak English. Yeah. It's a big deal. Sorry. It's a big deal. The mayor of our town just published a piece on like the town's Facebook today because ICE has been operating in town. and ICE took, has already removed at least 200 people and I guess many more are fleeing

and out there are immigrants, they're not, shut up. They built Westchester. I got to be very careful. Listen, I got to be very careful, but especially about being very loud locally. Of course. I got to be very careful about that because, again, you want to talk about,

you want to talk about kicking a beehive. You want to talk about invasion of the body snatchers? and watch somebody who is outwardly presenting as a human being turn into an absolute ghoul, then say something commonsensical about immigration and about, you know, a village's identity and where it comes from.

It's not from diversity of whoever showed up by way of a, you know, a rider truck. You know, whoever showed up, whoever showed up in a fucking Penske truck in the back of a box truck hiding, hiding at a fucking refrigerator. That's not what this town was built on. Sorry.

No. I'm sorry it's not. But that's where we are right now. Anyway, I wanted to put that out. It had a little bit of a, had a little bit of a Patriot Act kind of a thing. I have two voicemails,

and then I want to draw 10 names to see, to see who's getting all these. I got to do 10 drum rolls. No, no, no, you want. It's going to be quick. Here's from Paul. Hey, Frank and the fam. This is Tracer.

I haven't been able to catch you live for a little while, but I just wanted to let you know that I'm still out here, and you're still awesome. Fight the good fight, y'all. Thank you. Thank you so much, Paul. Tracer. And everybody, you can leave us a voicemail for the next day at speakpipe.com forward slash, quite frankly. This is from Photo Pete.

Hey Frank, this is Photo Pete calling in to talk about how I feel about 9-11. And as someone who was in the city that day, bailing my autistic brother out of high school, and finding out that my dad was actually alive because we both sort of arrived at the high school together to get him out of there. He was supposed to be in the buildings. I have to say I want to forget completely. about 9-11. As a matter of fact, I'm driving by the open grave site right now on West Street. I want to forget the biggest black eye in American history.

I want to forget that 9-11 was used for the military industrial complex to get trillions of dollars in 20 years. And also that the Taliban could come right back into power and we could quote unquote kill one man Osama bin Laden the boogeyman yeah I want to forget about it totally and completely and I have tons of friends in the FDNY just to begin who also want to forget and I don't want to hear the names called year after year after year I don't want to hear those incantations of spirits by these evil satanic demons that run our country and you Oh, man.

It only gives you 90 seconds. Do they know that? I don't know, but he was on a roll. They all are going to start timers because way too often it gets cut off at the good part. He's on a roll. Yeah. But he's right. And I feel the same way.

I can, I will not do it anymore. You know, like all the stations do it. And I just, I don't want any part of it. I'm sick of it. I spend time like you do. You know, the algorithm just like finds me on nine around this time of year. And usually I found that great Dartmouth. lecture. I'm like, cool. Information I didn't have before. I'm trying to wrap my mind around this.

I'm feeling like I'm doing my duty to my fellow Americans who did die that day to try to continually pick through the nonsense and find out what actually happened to them that day. That's what I care about. I don't care about the rest of it. That's for other people. It's one of those, it's interesting to hear them say that because I think it goes really in lockstep with what we were discussing tonight. The reason why it's gotten it's gotten a lot harder to kind of like digest because it's almost like a regularly scheduled gut punch every year. Absolutely.

Now, we always think about death anniversaries for people we love. Hey, it's been 25 years since Grandpa died. It's been 25, you whatever. You get through that and you say a prayer and, you know, you toast them and, you know, whatever. And you move on. And it's a reverent thing and it feels good to remember them to keep their memories alive. 9-11 is one of those things where every year it's a gut punch because you're given the ceremonies,

you're given the reasons to grieve, you're given the names every year. But at the same time, all the people who killed them are, they were not brought to justice. And again, the supposed conservative network, they all do it. They all pretend like that script is real. Right. You know, some of them are very impressive with all the names of the hijackers and all the names of the people. And it's like, you still don't get it, do you? No.

You still really don't get the crux of all this. So I understand when Pete, especially when Pete talks on behalf of some of his friends in the FDNY. Yeah. I mean, you know, the fire department over there. I've heard that many of them now, the new ones, they don't believe any of the official story. For that same reason, right? Like the initial firefighters that were there that day, if they're still with us, they probably have to believe it for their own sanity.

But the new guys, they're like, nah, no way. No way. But it's another thing, another, if you know you're not, again, if you know you're not going to get anything but a nut punch every year in September, why wouldn't you want to forget? Yeah. You know? I get that.

I understand that. I do. And it's a valid one. And Pete, thank you for leaving me. I wish that. I wish that you got it all in. I want to know what the rest was. Anyway, okay, everybody, it's 9 o'clock.

Jay and I are going over to the flip side. We got another hour we're going to do it together. We usually do an hour to get. Sometimes it's a little bit less. I'm sleeping over tonight. But we have videos to watch and we're going to just talk to the general chat and all that. But before we leave, and again, thank you to everybody, especially on Badlands or hanging out with us tonight.

I've got 10 post. Oh, tonight's Thursday. Yes, Thursday. All right, here's the first one. The first one is going out with two. silver quarters years 1950 oh that's good

in 1956 ah the year after Dwight D. Eisenhower heart attack yes yes why does Jay know that there you go that's where the cholesterol scam started Frank that's it all right so here we go the first

one up you're getting a postcard this we're just going to work from summertime back so this the summertime postcard and the silver the first name is here it is boom Dean Zee. Wow, Dean, good for you. All right.

There you go. Dean Z gets that one. Now we're getting a five ounce piece of, of copper. And let me just make sure everybody on pilled has been put in there. I did a lot of adding. Safety Net NX, Amethystcat, Nathan, Mosey, Delona. I saw Delona, Nathan, and Stowe, I mean, they blew it all up. I have you all in there, I promise.

Over on Rumble, I have you in there as well. I have Magaveli says, thanks for the show, Frank and Jay. Prayer to Rachel and all the people affected, love from the Franklies. I'm going to read all of your messages in more detail on the flip side. I just want to make sure that you know that you were seen. G. Fonte says, thank you, Frank. Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Let's see here. Nephilim says, I mean, I do have a really nice toaster. Oh, yeah, well, you know. So cromy. He's so shiny today. Big Fat Albert on YouTube says Smedley Butler tried and failed to reveal who pulls the strings.

Oh, war is a racket. Yeah. King 40 says it's a wig, Robin. Who, who? Oh. Thank you, King. Does he know something? Come on, King.

I never know. Jay Brits, a great. and awesome week. Thanks, Frank. UPSJJ says God. I love how you guys break down everything. Shotsie says, good evening, gentlemen, sending a little frankly support. ST, I was supposed to be there. That's what we left off before. Does UPSJJ actually drive a UPS truck? Oh, I think he called in one time. He works in the warehouse, I think. So the next one is getting five ounce, 250 years, five ounces of copper.

That's cool, man. That's cool. With a, look, there's me and Aurora and the little dragon. And then there's my goopy face. You'll see it better when it gets to you. Anyway, who's getting this? The name picked is Shotsie. Hey, all right. Over there on YouTube and quite frankly, superchat.com.

Congratulations. Now the next one is another summer card and the... The alien. The alien plush. If you don't get back to Frank, I'm taking that alien. There we go. Oh, and Stostov won it. Hey, well, I know he's going to come get his alien.

He dropped a whole bunch of stuff. Now, here we go. We're going, we have the rest of the Fourth of July one. So it's a big 250 anniversary. Me and Aurora running away from the fireworks that we were blowing off. So we have a few here. First one up is Nathan W. Remember, everybody, if you hear your name being called,

email me, frank at quite frankly. comptv.tv and say, I won this, the, whatever, and just give me your address. So Lauren will scribble it down. I'll put on a stamp and we'll send it out. Nathan got one. AltMod, Fourth of July 1. All right. Empress bitch gets a Fourth of July 1.

No, you are... That's weird... Oh, yeah, no, no, we already did that. Amethyst cat gets a Fourth of July 1. Here we go. Sean Joe gets a Fourth of July 1. I know all these names. Yes?

Tracer, who actually left us that thing. Tracer, you get that, here you go. Nice. Blue NDN now gets one of the first, this is the first custom. We only do custom postcards every month now. If you're part of Postcard Club on Patreon or Subscribe Star, this is the first custom postcard, and that is Dominic's ice cream truck sitting outside of the spring fling. On fire.

After the rain, glowing like the dickens. So Blue NDN gets that one. Here we go. Rain isn't even the word for it. Dana the Powerful gets another Dominic the ice cream truck. Nice. Let's see here. Corey J. gets the Dominic the ice cream truck.

And the last one. Shop Girl 34. I don't know that name. Listen, it wasn't a lot of people who sent in Super Chats this week. So I knew everybody had a pretty good chance. That's great. You're like Santa Claus. You know what I realized

We had a lot of postcards that were in there are all custom stuff Yeah And I said you know what Lauren I'm giving all these away today I'm gonna do 10 prizes That's great It's 10 stamps and it's just a small thank you For even just a little bit of of support for the show And it means a lot to somebody like me

And thank you all so much All right I'm taking Jay over to the flip side And I hope you guys join us We are going to drop the link into the chat room So be on the lookout for that. Jay, health reclamationproject.com.

This man changes lives, has changed the lives of many of you in the studio just by the little tidbits of information he's sprinkled out there. You've applied them and lost thousands of pounds. Like a health fairy. It's crazy. Except not a fairy. So find him at health reclamationproject.com.

Anything else you want to say? And if you want me on socials, best place is perpetual health.substack.com. That's that. Okay, guys and guys and dolls. I, as you all know, I don't have any end music. So it's, it's just... Should we sing something?

No, I guess I'll just go away now. No, no, no, it should be easier than that. I should just put up this. Here you go. That's it. Quite frankly, as film before. Hey, there you go. Okay.

I actually had the right theme music too. And you're in good, you're in key too. I was playing my little trumpet. Well, everybody will catch you on the other side of it all. Quite frankly, is film before a live studio audience. And now our super chatters. Too many of you to thank right now, but we'll get into the weeds on the other side of it. So if you don't see the link, go to quite frankly.com.

And just press play. There's no paywall. It's just another good 45 minutes with us. All right, guys. Have a good one. good night. Thank you for everything. And be well. No Friday morning show tomorrow. We'll figure something out. I'm doing a lot of work, switching bedrooms and all that stuff. And I'll have reports on that. So I'll see you on Monday, but I'll probably drop in at some point before then.

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