Badlands Media - RugPull Radio Ep. 148: KNOX HODL on Bitcoin, Market Cycles, and the Future of Digital Money

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

GMoney welcomes special guest KNOX HODL to RugPull Radio for a deep dive into the evolving world of Bitcoin and digital finance. The conversation explores how Bitcoin adoption continues to expand while traditional financial institutions wrestle with how to integrate or control the technology. KNOX HODL shares insights on market cycles, investor psychology, and the forces shaping the next phase of crypto adoption. Throughout the discussion, the hosts examine the tension between decentralized money and legacy financial systems, including how banks, governments, and regulatory frameworks are responding to the growth of Bitcoin. They also break down the role of long term holders, the significance of market volatility, and why understanding the broader financial landscape is essential for anyone navigating the crypto space. With thoughtful analysis and candid conversation, the episode offers listeners a clearer perspective on where Bitcoin may be heading next and what it means for the future of money.

Badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of a name. If only they had listened, they didn't listen to you. This is all common sense that we're talking about. Yo, Shadele, Shadele, G, money is back. Back from a little vacation, took the kids out to Cabo San Lucas for a little spring break, which was pretty awesome. Had a ton of fun out there.

And it's kind of sad when you're able or, you feel more comfortable walking the streets of Mexico than you do of like downtown L.A. I was in downtown L.A. like, I don't know, maybe two, a month and a half, two months ago. And there were people injecting drugs everywhere. There was tents everywhere. There was like zombies walking around. It was bad. Like it was actually, you know, not a fun place to be walking around. This is downtown L.A. And I'm in Mexico. Granted, it's a nice part of Mexico, I guess you could say. But, you know, the streets even were the streets where we were staying. I mean, there was graffiti on the walls and there was empties.

You know, it wasn't the nicest area. But I felt safer than I did in downtown LA, which is kind of telling you something. Something very, very broken and wrong with American society. And so here we are. We're back pushing the signal on March 12th. We've got a great show tonight. Only three days away from March 15th. Are we going to get any?

so fefe spiciness this year i guess we'll see and so um let's get started go uh go throw us a like share the share the show the channel share the um the info with friends and family go leave a shade of late in the comments um but you know like i came back kind of fired up and if you guys missed the gart chat today you guys missed an absolute like barn burner like we were going nuts okay So if you guys are coming to Nashville, okay, I recommend, you know, come out, get the tickets. You can go to badlandsmedia.tv slash events and you can snag a ticket right before March 15th. They're only, I think 35 bucks. Otherwise, it's like five bucks more or something.

But that's for a virtual ticket. So there's still a couple of in-house tickets available. But the virtual tickets are great. You get to see the recordings of us debating. we had a pretty fire episode today already calling out ash and you know alpha for for voting hard for you know in fake elections um and so anyways it was fun but you can you can join the fun come check it out uh i think you guys will enjoy it if you guys enjoy this okay so go check that out um i just want to point that out first because it was we went for an hour and we were like screaming at each other

it was it was hilarious it was fun uh so i think Nashville is going to to be, I think everybody's, you know, on edge with all the craziness going on. Okay. But, you know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Old proverb for people who vote and pay taxes, right? Like how many times are you going to continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result, you know, the exploitation games? And it's funny because today in the, in the actual Gart, you know, debate, they were using the same political, like, arguments to get people to vote. They didn't like our line of reasoning.

Like they were saying, well, someone's just going to kill you and take your Bitcoin, right? Or they were, Ash was saying, who's going to build the roads? You know, the total boomer responses people get. But then we have, you know, we've got a bunch of like, you know, posified bitcoins out there to a degree, right? So Pastor Coin comes out and says, anybody know a good tax attorney in Canada that specialize in Bitcoin? I need someone who knows about Bitcoin mining, depreciation, etc., maybe even a financial advisor

or accountant who knows the ins and outs of this stuff. And so evangelicals who vote and pay taxes are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, full stuff, right? Here is a pastor asking how to comply with tyranny, right? They're literally like begging and pleading. how do I comply please I want to be on the good list you know and you know what what is your religion mean then is this a spiritual battle or are you in it for something else right where where do you draw the line pastor you know but alpha alpha is doing the same thing right alpha's talking you know smack

on kandis owens but alpha today said you had to vote and so if you vote you are literally supporting corruption theft genocide at every life by voting and paying your taxes. And voting is part of that, too, guys. But you are literally praying for a corrupt, immoral system. Like, you're participating in it. You're literally breathing air into the thing you say you don't like. And so where does that, like, rubber meet the road for some of you?

Because it doesn't really hold any logic with me. And your decision to do that is simply, just based on your belief system, the exploitation of your beliefs, right? You are believing something is going to get better by giving over your power and authority to another person. So anyways, let's get started. I know we've got a lot to cover today. If you guys want to get, pick up the 1776.love digital 1776 shirts, guys.

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Sorry, you know, to kind of. coming hot, but this is kind of how we do things here. All right, man. I can appreciate that totally legit. I line up with it, you know. I know you probably want to know like Bitcoin story, all that, but, you know, you touch a serious pain point for me with the IRS and the taxes. You know, my parents, I grew up in a small town in Kansas and just, you know, dirt poor folks,

you know, like we're talking no shoes in the summertime kind of family, you know, like my dad worked you know third shift for years and years like 20 years he worked uh my mom was a secretary and you know all the things that women did in the 70s and 80s and uh they worked their asses off for for 20 25 years and uh my dad wound up taking a retirement right at the 20 year mark they had a opportunity to uh to take a lump sum they were not financially literate you know they were like most Americans, you know, they just didn't know the system. They didn't know the loopholes. They didn't know what to do with the cash. So they put it into a business, which, you know, wound up going belly up. It was, you know, one of these silly ceramic shops that, you know,

are in every small town that wind up not working out. And, you know, they wound up feeding more money into the machine than they expected to. And at the end of the year, they just didn't have any money left. You know, they just had burned through it. Now, they didn't keep all the receipts and they didn't do all the things that you should do to protect yourself. you know, from the man. And I was meanwhile off serving my country. I joined the Marine Corps and went to Desert Storm and I served in combat. And back home, my parents were getting their house taken from them.

The IRS literally came in, took their house, evicted my parents. They were basically destitute at, you know, 40-some years old, you know. Like it was awful, you know. And I can say that through my adult life, I've endeavored to find a way out. I went down to Anarchapulco. You know, I listened to the story. I've really tried to understand how to avoid it.

And, you know, so you strike a chord with me talking about the, you know, the paying your taxes stuff and being a bitcoiner and sort of, you know, you say the hypocrisy of it. I think it's, you know, there's a lot. It's more complex. It's more nuanced for me than that. That it's like, man, if I felt like it would be in the best interest of my family to just cut that leech, that parasite out of my life, I would. And I'm, you know, I'm desperately looking for that. You know, I go through the, you know, the ways of, you know, there's a variety of ways that you can, you know, and you can get somebody to help. you and you're just like there's a lot of a lot of that that I've gone through and you know it feels

it feels daunting and it feels dangerous and it feels like you're putting yourself at risk and your family at risk by doing that and so I don't judge people that are still staying in the lines because I know how hard it is when you're worried about the future of your family and when you've done all the right things and you know they're setting it up and all these things it should be allowed that should be basic human rights in order to do them. We have to pay for them. I'm a big time hunter. You know, that's one of the things. That's what I love. That's my passion. And, you know, all through all this, my dad, you know, he always bought a hunting license. He never, you know, he wasn't a poacher. He wasn't shooting. He wasn't daylight and, you know, spotlight. And he was, you know,

he always taught me, you know, it's like, you know, if that's what you're living off of, that's what you're eating. Like, it's literally like you have to pay somebody and get permission and get a license to go and provide meat that isn't antibiotics and, you know, isn't, isn't an industrial meat compound that they serve at the restaurants. You know, it's like, I just want real whole, I want to know that it was fed by nature and I want to feed that to my family. And so, you know, here you are, you know, take, take my money, you know. And so, you know, all this stuff kind of, you know, I know I'm here as a producer of the Bitcoin conference and that's probably what we're going to talk about, but I just want you know, man, I have a lot of alignment here,

but at the same time, I feel sometimes like, you know, I'm living a double life. And some of it is intentional that I'm trying to stay the great man, you know, like I, you know, I don't speed. I don't run red lights, you know, because I don't want the hassle of it, you know, not because I'm not too big of a guy or I don't have the power to do these things or to go outside those systems and and and to be sure as much as I can I'm on four wheels in mud but but you know I also know that like I have to you know take my kids to activities and I don't want any trouble along the way so I kind of as much as I can I try to just try to stay under the radar and I think that's my you know that's my approach and it's like you know I keep my stack in a place where I don't think

it's easily examined for that for these purposes that that I can, you know, I can make that decision. I can kick that can down the road a little bit about like, what am I going to do when I, I do, you know, cash those chips in a little bit to do something. And unfortunately for the United States and, you know, I think some of the states in particular are feeling the pains of this. Mark Zuckerberg just moved to Miami. There was somebody else.

I know there's another tech guy. Oh, God, who was it? another big one that also moved to Miami out of California. They're leaving. Grant Cardo. I left out of Denver. Guys, it doesn't matter. But I'm just here to say you're like, they're already feeling at these localized places.

They're feeling the pains of like people realizing there's, there's greener pasture somewhere else, you know. And you think about like Roger Vair, who left a long time ago, paid his way out and still had to come back. They came back for more. Like they, they don't want you to get ahead. They don't, you know, the government and the elite do not want you, the average person to be able to get above and beyond their status quo where they're at. You know, you can't control that.

So, you know, I think about this that, you know, there's a couple thousand people who run the entire world, you know. And so if we get a couple thousand or, you know, tens of thousands of, say, Bitcoiners who unleash a world of economic power. hour, you know, how dangerous is that? You know, why are these bankers coming out and saying like, you know, Bitcoin is dangerous and it can't work in the current system and, and they are opposing it at every turn? It is. It's dangerous to the way that they've been doing, the uneven, you know, system that they've created for themselves. So that was, I know, well, man, I'm coming in hot. I love that you came in hot, brother. Look, we're on Rumble. We're on a free speech platform. You can say whatever you want we talk about election fraud we talk about the the fouchy poison we talk about the

bullshit we talk about the pedophiles and so you're welcome to jump in at any point and thank you for still being here with us for serving uh we appreciate that we love the marine corps the fact the show before us is a couple of marines uh doing a show called sit rep and so it's lovely to have you here thank you for making time for us um and by the way guys if you are not following scott go follow him knox underscore hoddle okay he's one of us as he just clearly you know stated he's a he's a he's a Kansas guy who's, you know, mudding and doing all the great things and hunting, which I love to do, you know, when I get a chance course, I'm out in California, so I don't get to do that as much as I like to. But, you know, Scott, you make a valid point here, right? Like, what are you supposed to do to protect your family?

But as you know, they can indict you for anything, Scott, they don't need any actual evidence on you to take you away at any point in time. And, you know, here we are at this special point in time. Your parents did not have the opportunity to fight this system in a way that was honorable or peaceful. or have the moral high ground. The only option they had back then was kinetic, right? They didn't have another way. They didn't have an option. They had to either sneak around, stand to the radar or, you know, get screwed over, which unfortunately they did.

But here we are, man, in this special, special point in history, we're in the 250th year of 1776. We wouldn't be, this country was started on a tax revolt, you know. And so I'll just put this in your ear being the producer of the Bitcoin conference. imagine if everybody in bitcoin conference just decided we're going to you know an act of defiance a digital 1776 and how powerful that would be to the entire world because it only takes a spark to light an entire inferno and i'm telling you scott it's we're getting closer and closer every single day so thank you sir for your service and thank you for what you're doing to put on

an awesome event so um i mean we got the fire out of the way scott some so so give us your Bitcoin journey. You already kind of told us, you know, you were, you're a Marine Corps guy, but give us the, give us your, you know, you know, it's funny because, you know, in high school, I was academically unskilled and kind of the class clown. And I went from being a class clown to carrying a M-16 and being in combat and one of the elite fighting forces of the world in the Marine Corps. And, and I did that proudly. I was, you know, it served an honorable four years. And my, you know, my turns tended to be that dramatic, even out of the Marine Corps. You know, I got an interest in, in entertainment. And I thought that I wanted to write

stories. And, you know, I had a lot of stories I was telling and had had done some writing. And I got into television. And in that way that sort of like, you think. you think you're leading the way and then you wind up down a path that you you know you look back on and you're like that wasn't fundamentally what I was after um technology was appealing to me so I I did a lot of editing and I was one of the early nonlinear editors and helped launch avid into mainstream uh I flew all over the country teaching avid to uh new installs uh I mean I was at the Golf Channel when they got their first Avid system, you know. So I kind of got to go and see it start, you know, what became, you know, really the standard for filmmaking and television.

And then just in that way that things happen, I found myself at a corporate gig cutting for Food Network, Travel Channel, HDTV and the like when it was Scripts Network still. And it was small and I think it was rewarding. in that way that we kind of all were like scrappy and we did this. We produced things together and we felt like a real team. And then in the way things happened, Discovery Channel came in and bought it up. And so, you know, I got handed papers in 2018. Along the way, like 2014, I had a good friend of mine just mentioned Bitcoin to me. And he said, and, you know, at this time also, I was, starting to get really interested in like the entrepreneurial space. And so I had stood up a digital media

accelerator program at the local entrepreneur center in Knoxville where I was living. And, but my buddy came over my house and he was like, he was a, he had been a roommate with my wife in college. And so they knew each other for a long time. But we also knew that he was like a major pothead. And he came by and he was like, hey man, you know, you got to check out this, this thing, man. there's this Bitcoin thing. And I don't even know if you called it Bitcoin or it was some bit something. I just, you know, it didn't, it didn't really like land because also he was like, yeah, man, I'm like, I can like literally go on this website and order MDMA and they ship it right to my house, man. I'm like, you're getting drugs sent to your house. He's like, yeah, but I got to

buy Bitcoin and then I sell it and I, you know, for, and then I, and then I buy this stuff with it, you know, and he was, you know, buying other substances as well, but, you know, that was his main thrill. So, um, and we actually partake a couple times where he would bring it up and he'd be like, hey, man, you ought to check out this guy, uh, J. Snip 4 and, uh, Cliff High and Road to Ruta and these guys, you know, they're online, man, just go check it out. It's like the underground. They're talking about like things going on in numerology and all this stuff. And it was tripped. It tripped me out. So I did. kind of dove in and I was thinking like light coins the silver and you know like all these things that

they were saying that I was just like enamored with and trying to figure out like what I still hadn't done anything about it. I'm just still evaluating in the meantime my my job became a less interesting to me because it was just becoming so corporate and mundane. It was like a gilded cage to be honest. And but they gave me my walking papers and a decent severance. So I'm sitting on this money and an opportunity. So in January, that's when I went to Mexico. I went down to Acapulco. And I had also run into the Jeff Berwick story along the way. And so I was like, well, this guy seems, you know, intelligible.

And so let me go down here and listen to him. And I think it was, oh, man. Well, anyway, this was 2019 February. and I go down there and my real drive there was like, I want to know that the people that are involved with whatever the hell this is are real people. You know, they're smart and that they're, you know, that they're real. So funny thing is that I get on a flight from Atlanta to Mexico City

and I'm sitting next to this guy that is the essence of evil. And you know how you can just smell. the evil coming off of this guy he's he's like smoking a vape in the airplane when you know smelled like sulfur yeah yeah he did it was like and he was like his thing was like he wanted to go down there and make connections so that he could sell 3D printed automatic weapons globally and he was trying to link up with you know merks and you know bad guys you know like and he was interested in that and he was telling me about how he was like getting away from his old lady who was you know had just gotten locked up for meth and their kids got taken from them and you know

fuck this and that and all this and you know it's just like what am i doing you're like these aren't my people man i don't know what i'm getting into this is my first crypto event you know like i'm going to and this guy he seems to know his way around it you know so i'm like oh jesus what have i done but i get to mexico city i've got like four or five hours and you're sitting there like thinking about like how my life had led me to this you know i've got a family i've got kids i'm like What am I doing here? I should get on a plane and just take my ass back up to America, you know, and just live my gray life and be happy.

But I didn't. I just, you know, I meditated on it, prayed about it. I was like, I'm going to get on. I'm going to walk this out. So I get on the next plane. And like this bright shining light, this gentleman walks up as Matthew Benny. He's out of Canada. And he's like a water saver.

You know, he's like this guy that believes. living water and he's like trying to preserve it as a thing but he had these great beautiful stories about like the truth of bitcoin and how it relates to our world and how it's going to fix it and it like relieved so much i mean i was just like gave me a piece and um when i woke up the night i got to the hotel check i got up the next morning and i run into this guy right out of right right right first thing right at sunrise right I see, hey, from that moment, I didn't not see him every day that I was there. And I didn't spend a meal alone for all the people that he knew and connected me to.

And I sat at dinner tables with Bitcoin core developers. And, you know, but more than that, there were a lot of EOS guys down there. So Brock Pierce was down there. And Dan, Dan held. Yeah. And Brandon Bloomer and a lot of. the EOS guys were all around down there and they were they made they were a big presence and the guys that I was having dinner with were like we want to change the world you know like we want to we want to

we want censorship freedom and we want we want to be able to preserve like real understanding of like holistic medicine and you know all these things and I was I was I was I was enamored with it to be honest and I and we had kind of a charismatic leader guy of the group that was burning through the Bitcoin he had mined in 2012 and, you know, was like kind of like putting these things on. And I just kind of got invited. And the next thing I know, I'm in D.C. and San Francisco and Denver and got denied entry to Canada and Winnipeg. And it took me a bit to realize that that was it. You know, that was, that was the it. It was this, this presentation. and, you know, talking about the symbolism and the ideology of it.

But underneath it, they own Bitcoin, you know, like it was about Bitcoin, you know, and it was about getting more Bitcoin and trying to increase your stack. And that was it. I didn't, it took me a solid year of like going and try, because I wanted to believe, you know, that I had unlocked some thing, you know, that was going to change the world for the better. And, but I, it took me, so it took me a little bit of digging on that. And, uh, but eventually. And honestly, it was when it was in and around when 2020 was hitting. And a lot of things really unlocked for me between 2018 and 2020, where it was started out with cryptocurrency and it ended

with Bitcoin only and really a distrust for all the parties and all the media and all of, you know, knowing agreeing with you you know i don't i don't believe in the vote i don't believe in elections i don't you know there's too much proof that they've been stolen you know like i'm sorry you've got to be under a rocker attempting to deny yourself understanding to not see you know how they've been corrupted so i'm with you on that 100 100% and and kind of that's kind of what came out of that journey and um and i knew i had skills for putting things together i'd Like I said, I put together this digital media accelerator along the way. I put together a, I called it Crypto Knox back in 2018.

That was the like the first Knoxville crypto meetup. And it was mainly Bitcoin. You know, that's really all we knew was. You know, we kind of thought light coin was some silver to the gold of Bitcoin, you know. But we were all stupid. You know, we just didn't, we didn't really know, you know. It's okay. I fell for that one too.

I felt for that one too. Yeah. So I bought it. But you know what? I did. I did sell it when Charlie Lee sold his. I was like, I'm reading you, bud. You know, let's get GTFO.

And so, and same with EOS. I owned a bunch of EOS back in the day. And I was just like, you know, I had to let that go. And, you know, I figured it out in those in those. Yeah, you did you did your proof of work. You probably experienced a little bit of pain from the other ones going to zero. For sure. for sure for sure yeah you finally do do day trading you know i tried i stayed up all night man my

wife was like you know i aged you know 20 years in like three years just by doing like stupid shit you know like i yield farmed i steak i you know i went from polly chained uh you know blah you know i did all that i did all that stuff man and what at the end of it it didn't feel good. It always felt like I was trying to unlock the understanding of like a multi-level, you know, marketing company, you know, like it always felt like that to me. The EO stuff did and then really getting in and trying to like increase my position in Bitcoin to buy like through all these measures. It was just, it was unrewarding at all. It was. And it also cut my stack each time I did some of that.

Yeah, it felt like a fiat, you know, kind of atmosphere that you were in. And so, no, that's a great story, you know. And so were you, you know, were you like a Ron Paul libertarian type of guy? What were kind of your politics were kind of rebel? No, no, man. I was, I was a compassionate voter. I wanted to vote for who I thought was a good person. And so I was, I was not really. I've always felt independent, but I voted Democrat. I voted Republican. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was not. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I I, you know, I went through my life, you know, I never really stood by a party. But, you know, I was like a pot smoking, gun carrying, you know, anti-abortion Christian that, you know, like to party. And I went on tour with a rock band in 2005. And, you know, like I was just enjoying life. You know, I was kind of oblivious to it, you know, like what, how it impacted me. Like, you know, things like inflation, monetary. policy, you know, things that I didn't understand and didn't know.

Like in 2018, 2019, you know, that's when I read the creature from Jekyll Island. And then that got me to the Bitcoin standard. And it just like when I started doing that, it was like, oh, okay, I got the signal, you know, like I started to tune in a little bit better and started it just unlocked it. It's like, all you need is that. Like it's already there, this understanding of scarcity. monetary policy, money printing, like if you do any kind of like, wake up to that, like it, you know, you're like immediately, you know,

I think captivated by the understanding of that. I was. Yeah. And it's, it seems like an ever-ending journey too because I think people try to describe Bitcoin and they think they know everything about it. But even today, right, being in it 10 years, I'm still learning new things about myself. And this journey were basically on. on to free ourselves from bondage, right? Like it's an ever like, you know, living kind of organism that just keeps, you know, getting stronger and changing in different ways.

And so, you know, it's kind of a beautiful journey. But it's interesting that you kind of started this journey in the, you know, and cap world, so to say, as your kind of like first, you know, introduction into it where, you know, most people go for the, you know, the number go up. Oh, I want to make some quick money online and, you know, this is how it works. But no, I love that story because that's, you know, that's part signal too is we're all searching for, you know, what, what is it? And we're using discernment because we think, ah, it's another scam. We don't really know until we've done our homework.

And it takes a thousand hours, guys. Like, you're not just going to get this click. And so if you're here, you know, and you're new, like, congrats. But like, you've got a road ahead of you. It's not going to be given to you. And, you know, those passed along the way through rug poles through pain or what ultimately will free you by freeing yourself. you know from this thing and so um no love that story um it's it's an amazing journey for all of us and it kind of had to be this way right like it kind of had to be this individual journey

you're going through because i'm sure you run up in the you know the same problems with us whereas you know hey uh how many people will be orange pilled and you're like well probably not that many because you know just not that many people i've got my my cousin in nebraska somehow it clicked for him all the sudden in the last year or so and I got him to come, actually got him to come to Vegas last year. And I was like, dude, just you come out, you'll get the real, you'll get the signal, you'll understand it better. You know, he was not a guy that was necessarily going to read the Bitcoin standard

without, you know, some extra, you know, incentive or some understanding that was spoon fed. And now he's, you know, he's fully in. But I will say, I went to buy a side of beef from a farmer. a couple days ago and he asked for a deposit and i was like anyway you take bitcoin he's like nope not into it and i was like man you should be dude you should be you know you know like you're selling the real thing you know like get something real for it you know like but they don't it's really hard man it's really hard if they don't understand the basis for value and that they're being stolen from then they don't they're not it doesn't click you know it just doesn't click for them

And if you go any further than that with somebody that's not ready, then you're, you're a wild maniac, a weird guy. Yeah, you look like the pot smoking MDMA guy, right? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, which by the way, that guy never kept any of his Bitcoin. Oh, even today he's got like, you know, scratch, you know, like it's, he's got dust. He probably spent millions back then on a lot of time. But I do give him credit every time, you know, his last name is love. And so I give a lot of love to that guy because he, he started this journey for me, unbeknownst to him, even at the time that it took and that I got so deep into it that I converted my 401k into a self-directed IRA.

I put everything I have into it. Like I, you know, I went full balls in, you know, in 2020, you know, me and my YITR. She then followed me in and like, you know, basically it's all preserved over there. And I just, you know, I haven't even looked at it since we bought it. So love it. But yeah. So along that way, I had that realization of truth and where I wanted to be and that I wanted some part of that, you know, like I wanted I didn't want to go back into a gilded cage.

Like so I really started looking for opportunities in the space where I could add value. That's all. I was just like, where can I do the good work? Where can I take what my life's work has been? And I'm not, you know, I'm not a newbie, you know, like I'm not out of call. I've been around the block a little bit. So I was like, where can I take this experience where it will be valued in the space? And so the Bitcoin conference put up a post on LinkedIn and they were looking for an event producer.

And I was like, man, that's what I do. You know, I'm a producer. The last thing I did. That's what I was going to ask you next is like, how do you, you know, because we've got a lot of bit coasters on that are watching this. And they always want to get into the industry. And so, you know, yeah, how did you. get into the industry and yeah what was that like well you just you know it was a translation of skill

set you know it was you're not going to especially you know at you know and this was when i went in that was 2022 when i really started seriously looking at a job because i i had a gig actually i had a gig for a couple years with zillow it's a whole that's a whole another rabbit hole to be honest but i had my real estate license i've got some rental properties uh you know having work for HGTV, you know, some of that took the income property, Scott McGilveray, some of that stuff was like, hey, wait, if I buy a cheap property and then I fix it up and then I can flip it and then buy another property and then rent it and I rented some and I kept some. So I still do have a little bit of real estate. So I have an interest in that market. And I've got a whole other theory about

what's going on over there that, you know, we may get into. But after my, my Zillow, the Zill gig I knew was a two year gig, I believe, was coming to an end, 2022 and I saw the this post come up for an event producer and so before zillo my last major gig in production I produced a Super Bowl spot for Zaxby's which is a fast food restaurant and so I've done some you know substantial production work you know as a freelance producer and even as a staff producer at at scripts and discovery and so you know I just kind of looked at what the role required and it was an activation's producer so it was like bringing all the bringing the show to life you know all the fun bringing all the weird elements you know the rock

climbing walls and the shit coin pinatas and the you know all the while the you know setting up the bizarre and making it you know functional and um and I was like I can do that I'm a guy that you know I could find a pet raccoon on a Sunday afternoon if I needed it for a shoot you know like I'm that resourceful hustler of a guy that you know I can can find whatever's needed to get the job and get the shot. And so I knew I could get the show. And I'd been to the Bitcoin conference. I went in 2022, Sound Music Festival, all the things. And actually, I had my wife there. And we were on it. We were actually on a buddies. It was an EOS party on a boat. And at this point, I already knew I was a bit coiner, but it was, you know, some of my friends that I met in Mexico that I've stayed friends with, actually.

And, but we're on that. And I tell my wife, I'm like, you know, I should be putting events like this together. You know, like, I really should be. This is, this is where I need to be. I didn't know how I didn't. I wasn't then like, I'm going to start applying for jobs. You know, it wasn't that, you know, it just in the way that the world works and destiny happens, the pieces came together. And in fact, they initially said, yeah, we want to bring you on.

And that was in August. and my official gig that I had committed to with Zillow wasn't up till December, but I was going to let it go. I was like, I know I'll burn that bridge, but I don't care because as well, as things happened, they delayed the hiring of this role till December,

like literally like to the day when I was meant to end my role. It was I got hired. And so it was just like, you know, it just happened. So, you know, and being part of this.

So what year, how have you been there now at the Vickland Conference? Since 23. I did the 23 event in Miami. Okay. And so doing past, doing past events, you know,

everyone's kind of got a common theme. And, you know, for the most part, Bitcoiners do. But we're a weird bunch of autistic retards. Yeah. And how do you,

you know, how do you actually cater to all of us? Because look, I love what you guys do. I think you guys cast like the biggest net possible for as many people to kind of come to it. And you guys still have some nichey stuff for the people that want it. You know,

But still, you get these guys that complain, you know, you get some of the drama with the BIP-110, and then you get the drama with the David Bailey and the knock-a-mo. And it's just, it's so exhausting because here we are trying to change the world. And the only conference that has actually been around that put the president of the United States on stage, for God's sake. Yeah, yeah. And they're bickering over here because you guys aren't maximalism enough. And it's just ridiculous. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's absolutely insane. And so, yeah, how do you, how do you cater to? all us retards out there and be like, man, we got to really like hurt these cats. You know, it's a, it's, it is a delicate balance. You know, honestly, it doesn't upset. I don't, you saw my, my, my Twitter page. I don't have a lot of followers. I'm not, I'm not a social media guy, really, you know, I don't go heavy into that stuff.

So I don't really get into all the, all that, you know, and believe it or not, you know, our, our company, well, let me just say that when I got hired, I went through several rounds. I mean, I mean, it was probably four rounds of interviews with groups of people, you know, from the company. By the time I got done, I honestly didn't know who was in charge, like in the best way, you know, like they were all owners. They were all like these alpha A type, you know, people, A players, you know, that were, you could tell they were, they were like really passionate about what they do, each of them. And they did different things. And they, they crossed realms. And I, you know, when I finally got on board, I was like, wait, he's your, you're, okay, he's your, this is the, like, we don't talk about work charts.

We don't deal with any of that. So, you know, I don't, I don't deal with David Bailey. I don't have a lot of interaction with him. In fact, the first event that I went to, I ran into him in an elevator and he didn't know who the fuck I was, you know, like that's just the truth. I mean, I love the guy. You know, I think he's, I think that what he's doing, he puts, he puts his whole heart into, you know, nobody knows this stuff. And we're on the calls, you know, I see the blood, sweat and tears. You know, I, I, I'm looking through, through behind the curtain.

And, you know, the master of puppets is actually, you know, like he's, he's, he's a human. And he's just doing his best, you know, he's just trying to, to do live the fullest, you know, get the most of it. But one thing he's done really well. Yeah, go ahead. Keep going. One thing he's done really well is he's let the company and the experts that he's hired, the people that do their job. he lets us do our jobs and so our programming team uh Craig and his people like they are awesome at what they do and they can feel you know they feel I know that they're feeling this barometer

of like we need we need to wait it more this so we knew more that you know one of the things that I know has been kind of like I don't know I've noticed it is that there's a real heavy weight towards the masculine toward the male speakers we have a we have a lot more females involved this year than we've ever had. You know, I've seen, you know, because I see them come through. Again, I'm not, we're not all in each other's business, but when we, you know, we all do, we, we share each other's celebrations constantly. Like if you were on one of our internal calls, it's like, it's like a celebration when we

are going through talking about our, you know, our goals for the week and our, and our synergies and the things that are blocking us. Like, it's not, we're all there trying to solve these riddles and put these puzzle pieces together in such a kinship of love. And when we get done with this, it's one of these things that I realized with, like, production back in the day is that when you end a shoot and everybody comes together and it's a love fest, you know,

and you're all like in the huddle and you're just like, oh, we did it. Imagine that with like 75 or 80 people, like that all just put together this three. day event where we stood up a city of 20,000 plus people and brought in dignitaries from around the world and like, who the fuck am I, dude? Like, I mean, seriously, I'm some, I'm the, I'm the class clown from Kansas, you know, like, who the fuck am I? I'm literally, you watch the video of Trump, you'll see a guy in a cowboy hat at the front of the stage. That's me, motherfucker. Like, who am I? You know, like, I'm standing with the president because, you know, like,

as part of the security detail out front, the Secret Service was like, come out front with us man and I'm like who am I you know that's an amazing story in this room and somehow I found my way into this like global conversation about this thing that's going to change the world you don't think that like I'm so proud my children get to see that dad's not like just working and slaving away for some bullshit you know like I'm yeah I'm I'm grinding man and you know this time of year I'm really at it you know like we're 46 days out and we're running long days and nerves are at the highest level. And the budgets are tighter.

They're never because we're in a bare market. You know, we feel that. You know, but you know what we're not going to do? We're not going to make that an excuse. And nobody, you don't hear it on our team. You know, you don't get a pass. You know, you got to find a way. You're a Marine, man.

You guys can make it happen no matter what. And so I think that's obviously, you know, part of the big reason why you're probably were hired to is, you know, I think that Marine Corps ethos and the attitude is like, hey, we're just going to get this shit done no matter what. And that's, that's honestly what you need in, in the battlefield we are in, right? Because, you know, the people that take shots at you guys, they don't, they're taking shots at you guys from a fiat world. Like most of the people that take shots at you guys are still living in a corrupted,

decayed system of theft and bullshit. And they're going to judge you guys on what you guys are doing. And I just think it's completely assonide that you get these clowns trying to judge you guys and the David Bailey's and like I said, I'm some of their biggest cheerleaders because I understand the task at hand. I understand the culture war that it's taking to to orange pill the world and what you guys are doing, not only throwing in the US,

but you're in, you know, you're in the UAE, you're in, you know, you're in Thailand, I mean, you're all over the place.

And you've got a well coordinated machine. And so anyways, props to you guys. You guys have always been fair to me. You guys have always treated to be good. And you guys have always thrown a great event. I've had, well,

I'll tell you, man. our company, we make good, we make good bedfellows, man. We're good partners. And I, you know, my, so I primarily this year, last year, I really turned my attention toward AV audio visual. Why not? You know, that's my history is that, you know, I've been in television. I've been around cameras, likes the, you know, the work.

So, you know, I knew initially even when I was doing activations, that I wanted more per view into that. And I started doing the news desk, our live stream. and they get involved with that. And that led to me doing, you know, over the last couple of years really taking over the stages and really all the lights and sounds of the expo and the, you know, even in the like the open source stage

and some of the smaller hubs and stuff. And, you know, it's profound, you know, the way people walk in and see this, And they, they, they, I don't think they know. If you haven't been to a Bitcoin event, you know, then you, you don't know what, you know, it's not a trade show, you know, this is, this is really, the stage is the whole thing. And this year, you know, I know we, you could go to the bottom of our list of speakers and see people that you would just, you would love to sit down and have a conversation with, you know, like go, go, go look, you know,

in the z's in the alphabet of it, you know, like, you know, we've got, we've got the who's who, of people influential and influencers and builders and, you know, you name it, you know. And I think that this year is a real opportunity for people to show up in a almost in a communal way. You know, it's a bare market, you know, it's going to be the people that care the most. This is when they show up. And this is when I think those real connections are made for people. And that's what I remember out of 22. That's what I remember out of even, you know, the earlier.

stuff I went to in San Francisco and, you know, some of these other in DC and some of these other smaller Bitcoin meetups that I went to is that because they were smaller and, you know, and we were fending off the bear market in 18, you know, like good, gore. It was awful. And but if you showed up, you were a real one, you know, you were into it, you know. And I think that that's what you're going to see this year is the people that show up this year are the real ones. But we're not skipping on who our speakers are, man. We've still got the greats, you know, they're, showing up. And then we've got some surprises that are still yet to be talked about. And I, I wish I could share. I thought we were going to complete some stuff today and it didn't happen.

So I don't get to pull that cat out of the bag. But dude, just, yeah, be paying attention to the Twitter feed because there's some real fun stuff. Real fun stuff coming, you know, not just, not just Bitcoin speakers, but some fun, fun stuff. I love it. I love it. And so you guys kind of change things up from years previously. Like you guys offered free tickets to like the whole thing. Right after it's right after it ended. And then is the format still going to be kind of like industry day first and then the other two days?

Is that going to be standard protocol? I think we returned it to pro pass day or pro day or you know, something like it. But yeah, it's the same thing where Monday is going to be the pro pass and above. So pro pass and wheel holders. And then Tuesday and Wednesday will be the full conference experience, the festival passes. You know, Nakamoto stage is going to be amazing. I've been working on that with the team, Enterprise Stage. It's going to be, you know, talking about the industry and the B2B and, you know, a lot of that. That place was packed. It was like the last year you couldn't hardly get in that

room. And so we've expanded it a bit. Open source stage, always amazing. We have a resident open-sourer in Pedro that really stands that up. It's a passion project for him to bring this. So it will come to life with the hub. Inside there, we're going to have a 101 workshop that Bitcoin Sessions is going to be really heavy-handed in and bringing to life. And so you can just imagine what kind of like opportunities to learn are going to happen there.

I mean, it's the kind of thing where you could just go there, you know, like you could take away opportunities to set up your own cold card or, you know, whatever, whatever device or, you know, ask questions. If you've got questions about how to start a node, you know, if you've got a, you know, is it start nine? Do you want to do core or not? You know, it's like all these things, these, this is the where, you know, people are going to have these in this, you know, rockstar dev is going to be like walking around, you know, having these conversations.

And so, you know, that's what I look at us as, you know, like for whatever the arguments are, you're this, you're that, the, be, but that. We're a platform. we're a platform we're an opportunity for people to come and have these conversations to have discourse to stand up all of the all of the conversations you know i don't draw lines on that you know i'm like if it's bitcoin adjacent if it's bitcoin impactful if it matters to us then i want that person there and i want to be having that conversation on our stage and we've had you know numerous companies start up out out of our events you know it's you know countless i mean we i i i i

Honestly, we used to keep track of that stuff, but because it was, you know, it was an important part of our sales. But honestly, it just happened so much, you know, I think, you know, I don't even know in the dozens, probably. But yeah, that's, that's how I feel. So I do, I do, I do have a bone to pick with you guys. And I'll, you know, I'll be frank. Fair enough. You know, last year, we did, I did host a panel on digital 1776, but they put it on industry day. And so, you know, my panel is not about industry day.

Nobody, you know, nobody there is going to join that. And here we are in the 250th year of the anniversary of 1776, right? We are in a system, right, that is corrupt to the core that we have no power in. We have no power through our votes. We have no authority through there. Now, I don't know how familiar you are with Jason Laurie's software thesis. But I think the Bitcoin conference is missing a huge opportunity in Bitcoin as a weapon system, not only as just another inflation hedge, hey, who from the government can we

get here. What, you know, what, what new tricks does Tether have or whatever? I think, you know, if you guys, this is a revolution, man. And you know it. I know, I know, I know it in your heart. This is a revolution because we're all part of this. And I honestly think you guys are missing a huge revolutionary spirit in the conference itself. I think that's a huge, like, hole for you guys, in my opinion. Because I join this not for the money, right? Like, a lot of us join this for the revolution. And like, we need numbers, man. Like, we need more people to join. and really, you know, defy the current system. And we don't really have that.

We really don't have any of that. And so I'm going to be like, you know, like, hey, man, like, you know, think about it or at least bring it up maybe for next year or something. But we need a revolutionary spirit this year. It is 1776. And we're not getting out of our system any other way, bro. Like opting out of paying your taxes and self-custodial Bitcoin is the only power we have today. And think about all the Watts and Cyberspace that we now have with the network.

Jason Laurie's software thesis talks about it, that it is a weapon system. And I think, you know, it could be very impactful if that were to happen. And that's obviously my bone to pick from my bias. But, you know, something to figure out for short. Well, I can appreciate that, man. I don't think you're off base at all. And it definitely doesn't hurt my feelings to hear it. I think that there are always ways for us to improve.

and to adjust our direction. And there are some things that we do that I don't agree with. You know, there are things that we participate in and ways and, you know, both within our company and at our event, you know, like any relationship, you know, like there are things that, you know, I wish my wife did differently, you know. Like, I mean, you know, like it's not, nothing's going to be, you know, perfectly suited in all the ways. I don't also, I won't, I won't, you know, kid anybody. I don't, I don't necessarily have the power to change a lot of the, you know, like the programming.

I do influence. I offer suggestions and I give feedback on what's working. And I do keep enough of a, you know, a finger on the pulse to be able to be like, hey, man, this conversation that's going on over here, I think it's important, you know, but we do that. really across because we're a company of bitcoiners that is constantly happening and i think there is a balance of like the business and the revolution and the bitcoin maximalists and the you know the bitcoin adjacent and the bitcoin support and you think about like the exchanges and the the you know a lot of the support areas that we have you know both financially for our company but also like that offer products and opportunities to buy Bitcoin, you know, you think about Cracken or, you know,

some of the other exchanges that are in play. These are great partners for us in the event. They really do stand up, you know, whole areas of our event for us, you know, like these are really good. They do other businesses. They have other things. And so I know some people have qualms with that. So, you know, I think we have to, we have to go, okay, but does it serve the greater good? Are we, are we, is this positive yardage, you know, it's are we making, and can we continue it? Is it sustainable? Because ultimately, like the event, it has to function, you know, it has to make its margins in order to continue year over year and to keep feeding this machine that we are, you know? And that's a very real thing. And I think I have seen, well, you know, honestly, you know, I saw the, I saw an

archipulco, you know, fall to pieces for a bit because they were so passionate that they couldn't get their shit together, you know, and be good business partners and, and, and commit their, and, and honor their agreements and things like that. And so I, you know, we are not that, you know, like I will say, you know, we are an honorable company that has paid our debts, you know, to the vendors that we've used. We don't have any outstanding, you know, grievances, you know, on record with the people that we do the business with. And I find that to be a very, a point of pride for me is that I give my word as a producer, like, hey, you bring in your lights and sound and set up our stages.

And I'm going to make sure that you get paid when that's done. And so I, yeah, you guys, and you guys put on an incredible event, no doubt. I love, I do love the art gallery, the bizarre guys that scares that city. Absolutely kill it. But yeah, that's my gripe with you guys. I want a revolutionary spirit, you know, take it to the bosses, take it to whoever you got to get. Get us get us more of a voice, man, because honestly I think it's, and I think it's the biggest misconception for Bitcoiners.

They think if we fix the money, you know, everything's going to go back into place, honky dory. You know, we're still going to pay our taxes and we're going to be, no, no, no, no. People don't understand, like, taxation is ending, right? Like the peaceful weapon is Bitcoin. And there's no other way to stop the tyranny unless people choose. right we've now weaponized consent for individuals to opt out for us to not actually support the things that are happening within our government and i think you know this event is is more special than i think any of us can actually talk about because we it's it's going to be ever evolving as this revolutionary thing it's not just going to continue as a monetary conference it's going to be it is a revolution um and that's why this event is not just about the status quo this is this is literally a revolutionary event And, you know, that's my opinion.

And I think that's going to be the direction of the Bitcoin conference as it grows because people want to join up. You know, it's funny because I, you know, the, what is it? The Storm Area 51. Don't know if you've seen that documentary. But there's a documentary of the guy on Facebook that posted about, you know, Storm Area 51. I've talked about this a couple of times.

But I think it's an important lesson for people. And he just started a random Facebook page. Everybody wants to Storm Area 51 because the government won't tell us what's going But now after the Epstein files, after the COVID, after the genocide, after the, I mean, people are fed up, man. And this guy for storming area 51 had two million like views or people interested in like just a couple of weeks to go storm area 51. And I think like, you know, if we get enough people that are fed up enough and be like, I want to join something that is honest and it has integrity and is based upon truth. I think that is a huge opportunity for you guys to grow this thing as a revolutionary conference. And so that's my, you know, that's my two, two sats on it, you know, do it with whatever you will.

But I think, if anything, you guys have nothing to lose if you guys start at least doing some of that. Yeah. I feel you, man. I think that we have a ways to go to be that sort of outward about it, you know, to be that vocal about that. specific of an activity like like you know it's a that's a dangerous zone for a big organization like we are in a public company and I think that it would be you know you're right I'm not saying that you're you know I agree and I think that you know I will say too that non-bitcoiners are just you know are also growing in terms of their they're being fed up with the system and paying for

things they don't agree with. you know, I've seen a lot more people sort of at least exclaiming that they were going to be protesting by not paying their taxes this year and more than I had seen, you know, and that that seems to be a growing tendency. And, you know, honestly, I feel that way too, you know. And I'm like, you know, last year I paid them like in October, which I always do. I always extended as long as I can because I'm just like, all right, you know, and I mean, son of them. Yeah, at the end of the day, right, it's a number. You know, they, they can't arrest everyone.

And, you know, it's really a DDoS attack on their enforcement bureaucracy. And I know it can be a difficult conversation for you. You don't have to answer all the questions and do it that. But we are doing a stage in storm the IRS. And I publicly haven't paid my or filed my taxes for six plus years. Okay. I'm still, they haven't, you know, I'm still here. I'm still free.

I refuse to bend the knee to a system of corruption. And I self-custodial my Bitcoin with multi-sig and multi-jurisdictions. And so, you know, that's the thing. If enough of us do it, Scott, the tables change in a very fast way. Because remember, power of the government comes from consent of the governed. And if we no longer consent, we no longer give legitimacy to an illegitimate organization that is doing all these things. And so anyways, I'll get off my soapbox there. And I'll go back to go following Mr. Knox Hodel.

He's one of us, guys. Here's some of his old tweets. American taxpayers are now slaves to interest payments. Interest on federal debt is now so immense that it's consuming 40% of all personal income taxes. This is in 2023. So three years later, it's actually way, way more than that. And actually, if you go look at executive order by Donald Reagan, one, two, three, six, nine, you'll find out that back in the 80s,

Not one dime actually went to any public service that it was all interest on the debt and other things going after people to get the taxes. And so even back in the 80s, you weren't doing anything with the tax money. And so it's all it's all theft. It's all stolen. They never needed it. It's all a control system. It's a control system. That's what you learn.

And you've got about Senator Warren and modern day sheriff of Nottingham, the enforcer of tyrannical taxes and funder of nonsense green projects. which are not green, just subsidies of unauditable, unsustainable BS. She's a megalomaniac, larping as a sweet old lady. Well, that's because I was. You know, I bought, I bought the, the compassionate Democrat line for a long time, man. So I took that personal, to be honest. Now, one last question before we kind of, let's get out of here. But are you familiar with the Q&on movement at all?

The Q thing. Did you ever look into that? You know, no, I haven't gone deep down the rabbit hole, you know. Okay. And, you know, I do follow some of the posts. I, you know, I'll, I'll see, especially some of the backwards, like people will post like, oh, yeah, Q, Hugh had already posted this was going to happen. And then this pops up. And so, uh, not really that, that deeply, though. I'm not that well. Well, we've connected a lot of the dots through, um, you know, Q and Bitcoin, Satoshi, Trump and all these other different things. All sending the research on it, uh, probably want to get a chance to look at until after the Bitcoin conference because we know your business. We do appreciate your time. One last thing before you go to, we do have a pepe of the week. Oops, for you.

We always pick a pepe. These are layer two tokens on Bitcoin. They're not chick coins. And so what it is, it's tokenization on layer two. It's not using layer one through store images and anything like that. But we chose Pepe director, because you are directing the conference here and getting it done. You don't know me. Looks like there's a Nakamoto card in the background.

Anyways, these go for like, these are pretty expensive. There's only like 100 of these, but they're pretty rare. Wow. So anyways, yeah, you know, we talk about Bitcoin being the anchor of truth and that the only way to extend that anchor is through other markets and that, you know, an anchoring system is needed. And so we like the Pepe. We like, you know, we talk about it, you know,

the Scarce city guys, you know, do some sell some pepe's at your conference. and so we appreciate that. But anyways, guys, go to Las Vegas, use code Pepe for 10% off. I assume, Scott, you'll probably be there. Maybe we'll have a drink together or something. You bet, man. You bet. Yeah, man, we appreciate your time today.

Anything else you want to say it before we go? Man, I appreciate you. Thank you. I appreciate what you're doing. And, you know, I feel like, you know, there's a rare few that are willing to really put themselves out there, you know, to really commit to something and then own it and be real. And, man, I thank you for your service in what you're doing out here on the front lines of trying to make change a reality. And, you know, I only aspire to do that, you know, like I want

more of that. And I need more of it in my life. And guys like you, you know, I'm really glad that we, you know, stumble on to each other because, uh, it, it's meaningful. And what you've said, you know, it gets to me. And I, and I do feel it.

And I do feel like there's more that I can do. And I hope for those out there listening that, you know, they take this to heart and, and do all that they can, you know, and we'll go push to the limits a little bit in, in trying to make change.

Hey, we need as many people on board as we can do. And I think, you know, we need to stop living in fear because, you know, we are in this spiritual battle. And no one is coming to help us.

We have to work together. And we have the numbers. Like there's way more of us that are peaceful, honest people. And I think people need to just realize that we now have the power. We have been weaponized with this new thing. And when Bitcoin becomes the most valuable thing on the planet, they are going to be forced to negotiate with us. They have to come to us.

They can no longer print energy for free. But it's up to us to force that change. We can't allow, you know, the people in power to dictate the terms of this new arrangement. And so anyways, we appreciate it. We know you're on our side. We know you're going to do what you can. And we love to have you on our team, brother.

So thank you for your service. And I look forward to seeing you in Vegas in person. Count on it. All right, Scott. We will let you go. I know you're hard at work. We appreciate the hour you gave us. I want to let you get back to your family and everything else you got going on.

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And so Scott is an awesome person. I think, you know, he understands it. He gets it, right? And I think, you know, change is in the air, my friends. Change is in the air. So we'll see how that comes about. And we'll go from there. What else do we got?

Clown news. Lots of clown news out there, of course. You do have, of course, Congress voted to protect their sexual harassment records, but not America's elections. This actually happened, guys. Elon Musk is telling you this actually happens. I know some of you guys see it and you actually, you know, it goes through you, you get mad and then you're off to the next thing.

But like, that happened. They just passed automatic involuntary draft registration. Send your kids to die for Jewish bankers, Guiam. It's your patriotic duty. Involuntary? Yeah. Right. It's a banker's war. It's always a banker's war.

Of course, they want to sign you up. You don't have a choice. Ra, rah, rock, country music and American flag. And, you know, off you go to die for some Jewish banker. That's literally what it's been. Don't fall for the siops, man. Just say no. Strategy acquired almost 18,000 Bitcoin.

There he is spending a billion dollars, you know, just a couple days ago. Price still hasn't moved. I don't know what's going on. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Plus, he's getting more Bitcoin like every, every day now. So strategy raised a billion dollars in a single day. And now they're getting like 4,000 Bitcoin a day from their, from STRC, their stretch product, which is an income product.

And every day it's above par, they stack more Bitcoin. And so, you know, I don't know, that's, that's insane. I don't know any other thing with, you know, an absolute scarce supply that is just still prices down. I can't explain. I think anybody can. I think it's through obviously the paper markets. And then you have Adam Beck, who's going to obviously do the same thing. They're going to be buying 20K a week.

It's absolutely insane, guys. And so you're still on the right course. You know, we still, you know, are basically, you know, in these uncharted waters because of all the scams that are going on behind the scenes. But we just got to wait until it plays itself out. And so I know it's, you know, I know you think you're probably crazy because it feels like you're crazy. because you know what you know and you know the reality of what's happening isn't matching what's in your head. And so it kind of fucks with you a little bit, right? Because we know there's an absolute scarcity.

We know that they're rigging the systems. We know that they can't do it forever. So when's that going to pop? And it's been a while, right? Anyways, Kazakistan is the first central bank to buy Bitcoin. And, you know, as the ETFs came to market and gave regulatory clarity around the custody of Bitcoin, which is the, you know, the single biggest thing when you're managing other people's money, you can't hold the assets yourself. And so the ETFs unlocked that

functionality for fiduciaries. And there's been a trend of, you know, individuals selling their coins to the ETFs. And we're seeing more pension funds, more endowments. Last week, the first central bank to buy Bitcoin, the central bank of Kazakhstan announced that they'll be adding Bitcoin and digital assets. That really gets to my point about this intersection between the energy and electricity markets and the Bitcoin markets, Kazakhstan, you know, famously sitting on huge reserves of nuclear power and electricity. So it's natural. We think for them to adopt Bitcoin.

There's a dozen countries like that that are mining Bitcoin, you know, at the government level. And we expect that to proliferate. Central banks buying Bitcoin. What now? What else do we have? We have, oh, I was on Truth for the Commoners. So I was on with Marty Bent about, what, last week? Yeah, so I think it aired Monday.

So here's a little clip from that. You know, it's been a domestication process for a long time through licenses, permissions, right? Everything now is legal for a fee, right? You can't even go out and enjoy a park or an ocean without paying something when literally this world was given us to first, you know, for free, essentially. And so what is that, right? What did they do for the World Wars?

Well, they sent all the alphas, right, into the meat grinder, right? Got rid of them through that process. And so now we're left with the decision. Are you going to continually bend the knee to a satanic group of pedophiles? Or are you going to stand up? And, you know, it takes a lot of courage for individuals to finally hit that red line and should be like, enough is enough. But if you look at, you know, the past of 1776, like the general,

gentlemen that put their lives on the line, they put their livelihoods on the line. Like they were like basically facing sudden death or capture from an enemy that would literally torture them. Now we're like, oh, we may have to go to jail for a little bit. And, you know, in our scenario, we could literally put our Bitcoin and self-custodial Bitcoin, tell the government to go fuck themselves. And then like, you know, you get free room and board for maybe a couple years. I mean, you can see what's happening. So yeah, cool conversation with Marty. He was, you know, absolutely very, you know, open to it and, you know, for the most part, agreed with it. And so, you know, at what point does the spark become a fire?

What point does the fire become an inferno? You know, hopefully that this year is that tipping point. And I think Trump is doing everything he can to expose it all. Like he's literally exposing the evil cockroaches in Israel at every possible level. I don't know. You know, it's all, it's around the world now, you guys. You know, and I go back to, you know, this Q post. They openly call you sheep cattle.

Well, who openly call this sheep and cattle? Well, Jeffrey Epstein did. When did those files come out? Well, they just came out right before it went to war with Israel. Shockingly enough. All the files came out and pointed fingers directly at Israel, directly at the Jewish state. Okay.

Here's this cue drop. They openly call you sheep cattle. There will come a time when none of them will be able to walk down the street. Biggest fear. None of them will be able to walk down the street. What is happening all over the world right now? Well, here's some Jews walking in New York City. You're disgusting.

Get the hell out of you. Right? They're absolute disgusting, like, freaks out there that are just these weird people that don't even fit in in any type of normal society. Here they are being killed. All Jews I was sorry This is them being kicked out of all the countries

I'm going to play that at the end You know So here's a funny thing from Trump When asked about the situation in Israel What's your message to a Jewish community? What's your message? What's your message to a Jewish community? Tragic

tragic Did you see that? Did you see that? He was literally trolling Israel, I think, in that clip, which is, you know, interesting. What's happening now? Like, well, we don't hear much about the U.S. involvement.

You hear almost every day is that they're being attacked. Like, missiles are coming down all over Israel. And so what do? You want to go. Bo get, what are it? Is it? And so,

And so whatever you believe is happening, what's happening now is Israel is being systematically put on fire and being blown up. That's what's happening. Okay, whether how we got into it and Trump supported this whole thing and we went to war with Iran, well, it gave Iran a free pass to attack Israel. Okay, so maybe Trump is using Iran to attack Israel because Trump can't attack Israel. how do you attack our greatest ally, right? So some strange signal this week.

I want to point some of that out. Here's Flint. Iran conflict. Iran has crossed a significant threshold following confirmed strikes on banking infrastructure. Inside Iran, Iran military soldiers that are now threatening retaliatory action against U.S. and Israeli financial centers. So Iran is targeting financial. infrastructure inside of Israel. Okay. We had this thing happen, right? What was the other thing? Oh, I didn't, I don't think I pulled it. Shoot. I think I pulled that one. Anyways.

So whatever you think is happening, like what's happening now? And this is the most masterful 5D chess move ever is we have Israel being attacked. Okay. So yes, I'm going to go on my my anti-Semitic rampage right now. I don't care. I don't give a shit because this is the biggest battle we face. And it seems like it's culminating at the end of this because, you know, Q said we're saving Israel for last. Is this it?

I don't know. Probably not. But maybe it is, right? Hopefully. Hopefully we can get out of this freaking sci up because I'm tired of it. I know some of you guys are. And so, you know, what else we have a strange situation? signal. We had Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary's former chief speechwriter going to the Bitcoin

Policy Institute. What's that? I don't know. That sounds like some coincidence, some weird coincidence. Trump putting all these Bitcoin maxis inside of his, you know, inside his bureaucracy. What's that? You know, we had, we've got mining in space now. StarCloud will be the first to mine Bitcoin in space. This will be a massive industry in itself. Oh, but space is fake, guys. Totally fake. Right?

Right. Hey, Chris Paul, we're mining Bitcoin in space. Oh, well, space is fake. Okay. Sure. Sure, buddy. Hopefully they're going to work with Lori on that one. We've got

Lori with supporting cryptocurrency and blockchain technology is now officially an emerging technology priority in the U.S. presidential cyber strategy. Can we say software? How long have we been talking about this? How many years? The Lori thing's coming to fruition. We've got a coincidence. I love when Lori uses the term coincidence. He's not he's not using that like as a joke, guys. He is totally like I think hat tipping us. Okay. Trump's cyber strategy for America versus software. There is a significant conceptual overlap between these two documents, published in

2023 and shortly it was banned. Trump issued is in March 2026. What's that? I don't know. Am I tired of being right? I don't know. Am I right? Maybe. Who else is doing anything about? Like, what else are people doing? You're going to go vote? Really? If you go vote, you're a freaking cuck you are just not at all doing anything and what you think you're doing and if you keep yelling at the system in which you have no power in and continually supporting that system through voting well maybe it's not them maybe it's you maybe you are the problem right and that's a tough pill for a lot of people to swallow because um like humble yourself bro Because maybe it is you.

And maybe it's not them. Because you keep buying what they're selling. So if you keep buying what they're selling and you refuse to move to a parallel system based on truth and honesty, well, then of course it's you. It's not them. You're buying their bullshit. Right? You're falling for the American flag and, you know, the country music in the background and, you know, be part of something and go to a rally. Fucking stupid.

You're an idiot. You're just falling. you're just being exploited for your belief system. And so they openly call you sheep and cattle. There will come a time, and none of them will be able to walk down the street. So now we have, you know, Zionists being attacked in streets.

What did you expect was going to happen when people found out the truth? That they're all littered throughout the Epstein files. Jewish people, Jewish-connected Zionists. Okay? And then you have the connection here, right? Why do they persecate me so? You've got a Jewish guy there and then you've got this thing with the Pope Right we know right the Vatican are probably controlling them to some degree

Right the Jews are probably the proxy for the Vatican Bank which is probably the head of the snake And so but the biggest battle is against the culture war against Zionism itself. That's the biggest hurdle Right Anywho we also had some King of the Jews. Donald Trump was awarded a crown. So this is by this book, a novel of the Holocaust

by Leslie Epstein, has all this 11-11 symbolism called King of the Jews. And apparently, Donald Trump was awarded a crown of Jerusalem by the Israeli Heritage Foundation on July 10th, 2023. This award was presented to honor

his efforts to support Israel and the Jewish people. So, that happened 11 years one month and one day after the release of the book Donald Trump was born I know something about the way he was born and then hitler died April 30th 1945 I know some 11 11 days anyways there's some 11 11 with all that stuff I don't I didn't get into all of it but interesting no doubt we also had this weird silent propulsion so this verified X account TMB spaceships with 1645 posts on plasma

of propulsion went silent on February 27. The same day, Major General McCaslin vanished. We pulled the archive. The accounts 1998 and drawn schematic claims a siding from the cockpit of a KC-135 at 150,000 feet. The author identifies ionized helium by site and references lab experiments by name. So using helium-3. Well, I think we know where that comes from.

I think that comes from space, right? Isn't that the stuff that cools? You know, a lot of the quantum computers that Kwas has talked about, reminding it on the moon. Yeah, so what about that? That's interesting. So we have all these cool technologies out there that are, you know, basically being repressed.

And so we're to the rug pulls of the week. A couple of rugs. We had Trump's, President Trump officially removes Kerry Perjian Boler, who was exercising her religious liberty by being the only Catholic woman who opposed Zionism. I love it. The Jewish problem has to be so up in your face that you must be sick and tired of it. You must be sick and tired of the Jewish problem. I'm fed up with it, right? Some of you

are just getting there. The more is coming. You were going to be so sick and tired of paying for Israel that you're going to get upset about it at some point. And so it looks like some of the Goyam are finally waking up, right? Her being one of them. Some more rug pulls. What we have the Holocaust Museum, by the way, the Holocaust is faking gay, right? Six million Jews didn't die. Okay, Holocaust Museum destroyed by Iranian missile strikes. How did they let that one get through? They're destroying financial infrastructure.

They're destroying a Holocaust museum. How are these missiles getting through? I thought we were there to protect them. I thought the Iron Dome was protecting them. It's plenty of the ones that get through, right? Kind of interesting. So are we using Iran to attack Israel? I mean, I don't know, probably.

So this is an interesting, you know, deal. An IRS form that audits a full history of all your exchange of wallets. You gonna fill out that form, go ahead for 100 different exchanges, huh, Goy? You gonna fill that out, really? Really gonna fill that out. You're gonna go through the account

and fill all those forms? Okay, all right. But look, there's concerns for people with families. Like Scott was saying, I get it. And if you know in your heart, what the right thing to do is, well, the right thing to do is probably get all of your assets off the state ledger, right? Sorry, sell the house, okay? Leaks your cars.

Go back to renting and self-constitutional Bitcoin. Live like a free man. Stop living in fear because it's the things you own, quote unquote, that own you. Right? because if you own a house that's on the state ledger and you know if you defy their system, then they're going to take your house. Well, so the thing you own owns you. You don't own it. It's the state's property as far as they're concerned. They can take it at any point. So it's not yours. So if the fear is, it'll take my stuff, then the thing you own actually owns you. And that's just look at the churches.

If your church is a 501c3, all of them are, FYI. You're a fucking hypocrite, bro. Evangelicals are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the planet, all of you. The biggest ones that vote and pay taxes. You were the hypocrites. You were actively supporting corruption, theft, and all this immorality. And here you are, being a good Christian, going to vote and pay your taxes. Fuck off, man.

That's just like, how do you guys live with yourself? It's disgusting. And the churches that are just openly like doing this, I don't know, man. I'm so I'm coming to fire. I'm coming with fire to Nashville. So be prepared. I am done fucking being nice. G money toxicity is going through the fucking roof because I don't give a fuck.

And it's time. It's freaking time. Okay. So be ready. Okay. Because I'm fucking not holding anything back. Okay. basically we pay the government taxes to fix our problems and then they pay migrants with our taxes

to come and cause more problems. Do you see what's happening? You're being drained, goy. You goy are being drained in every possible way and you still want to vote and pay your taxes. It's unbelievably sad. Unbelievably sad. Anyways, I think I've talked enough shit tonight. But what do we have?

Oh, we also at the rugpole of this douche. bag saying Bitcoin's going to zero, right? That super cool technology guy. Bitcoin is going to die. I don't mess with it. You think Bitcoin is going to die? Oh, you touch nothing with crypto. I don't touch it.

Tell me why you think it's going to do. Well, I just got a call from somebody a couple days ago and said, hey, if you got $25 million, you know, you can make $75,000. I just want to put it inside of an account to do some stuff. And this is a friend of mine. And I was like, do you realize that that Bitcoin is still based on Fiat? And because the dollar is decreasing in its value, because the uncertainty of war around, nobody wants their money in something that can be wiped out with a push of a button somewhere.

I've just stayed, I've stayed free and clear of it because it's been dropping a great deal. So I ever forgot that guy's name, right? He went on Joe Rogan, and he even kind of got me with it, I don't know, the energy ether bullshit, I guess. I don't know, but he's obviously retarded. Otherwise, Captain, Captain, no, the Q on Star Trek that came out. This is interesting. If you can't take a little too much winning,

maybe you ought to go back to Reddit and crawl into politics. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with memes to satiate desires, both spicy and dank. But it's not for the normies. Love Q. Trust the plan. That was fun.

What else do we have? We have, oh, we had the Palantir guy come out. So this, like, I've always had this in the back of my head that Palantir was like actually white hats doing stuff because the Peter Thiel and all that stuff involving it with, with everything else and Bitcoin just had my spidey senses up. Like, dude, everyone's pulling out Palantir for a bad. guy, which means the sci-up is working. And I think deep underground like actually Palantir's good guy tech. So have a listen to Alex speak about it. Industry has to support the warfighter.

The one thing, though, that I think even now is underestimated by all actors in industry, and including in Silicon Valley, is how disruptive these technologies are. If you are going to disrupt the economic and therefore political power significantly, of one party's base, highly educated, often female voters who vote mostly Democrat, and military and working class people who do not feel supported. And you feel like that's, you believe that that's going to work out politically. You're in an insane asylum. Like, that you cannot have, this technology disrupts humanities trained,

largely Democratic voters and makes their economic power less and increases the power economic power, power of vocationally trained, working class, often male voters. And so these disruptions are going to disrupt every aspect of our society. And to make this work, we have to come to an agreement of what it is we're going to do with the technology. How are we going to explain to people who are likely going to have less good and less interesting jobs from their perspective? and how is it that we are going, and by the way, on the military thing, these technologies are dangerous societally.

The only justification you could possibly have would be that if we don't do it, our adversaries and we'll do it and we will be subject to their rule of law. So if you decouple this from the support of the military, you're going to have an enormous problem explaining to the American people why is it that we're absorbing the risk of disrupting the very fabric of our military? our society, including the most powerful parts of our society, if it's not because it's about

maintaining our ability to be American in the near term and long term. That's interesting. Also, check out this other small clip from Alex Karp. Conspiracy theorists, you may hate this, but there's one person protecting your right to be a conspiracy theorist that actually has a seat at the table. And that person is me. You may not want to hear that truth, but it is fucking true and maybe do a little more reading before you pontificate on your absurd and obviously it'll have formed in many times stupid opinions. Okay. So because like you're attacking the person who's protecting you, idiot. It's like fucking so stupid.

Might be right, guys. He might be right. But all the normy bitcoins are terrified of Palantir. And look, I get it. It's a razor's edge, right? If we're wrong about this, it's going to be bad. But I guess we'll fuck around and find out. There was also this interesting clip about,

I think it was JFK's grandkid that talked about this. This is Jack Schlossberg since deleted social media post. He designed a recipe for a Maha Energy Ball. Schlosper did? Yes. Here it is. Ready. You ready? Quote, two ounces of Jew blood.

Ashkenazi, not Sephardic. Four cups of mail. Mm-hmm. This is what the Schlossberg guy said? Faked at 300 degrees until totally dry, like your wife. He has written things, creepy, creepy things about vice. I mean, he's right. A Maha Energy Ball.

Two ounces of Ashkenazi Jew blood. I like it. What else we got? Here's an interesting old Lori take, too. Like, it would be, you know, so why do we listen to like bankers talk about the technology, technical merits of Bitcoin, just because it's a coin, right? because it was just arbitrarily to call the coin because that's what its inventor called it and what it intended to build and because it doubles

as a great money. You know what double as a great money, Robert? Real world physical power transferable through cyberspace. The ability, right? That would be super awesome money because it's super secure money.

Right. So you can just stop calling it money for a second. It's sound what when Michael Saylor says, okay, it's a, it sounds like Michael Saylor is describing the paywall, which is why people get pissed off. It's like, oh, you're just doing a paywall. It's like, stop calling it money. Call it cyberpower, real world cyberpower. If you demand people, say you can't post a tweet or you can't spam a bunch of crap unless you post Bitcoin or cyber power as collateral, what you are technically doing to them in shared objective reality. is imposing a real world physical cost on them. You are making it too physically cost prohibitive to spam. That's why Adam back invented the cost function specifically for spam, but that's not the only way, that's not the only thing it can defend against.

And so we are now in this world where holy crap, Bitcoin is cyber power. We can use it. we can invent protocols to secure ourselves by imposing physical costs on people who try to deny our access to property to try to systemically exploit our policy and we can actually start to use this bad boy to overturn the massive state of exploitation and oppression that is current cyberspace overturn the massive amount of exploitation. Yep, only one way to do it, folks, through cyber power and digital 1776.

All right, G Money, signing out. Peace, y'all. Shadele. That shall take place. Shall be the most unusual thing. And transfiguration and going into the marketplace, if you wish, into the new media with Time magazine will have no choice but to say what I want them to say newsweek what I want to say of you have you what I want to say what I want to say

Trump shall become a trumpet says the Lord Trump shall become a trumpet I will raise up the Trump to become a trumpet and Bill Gates to open up the gate of a financial realm for the church. It says the Lord. I will not forget 9-11. I will not forget what took place that day. And I will not forget the gatekeeper that watched over New York. New York, who will once again stand and watch over this nation, says the spirit of God. It shall come to pass that the man that I place in the highest office shall go in, whispering my

name that God said when he enters into the office, he will be shouting out by the power of the spirit, for I shall fill him with my spirit when he goes into office. and there will be a praying there in the highest seat in your air. There will be a praying president, not a religious one. But I will fool the people, says the Lord. I will fool the people. Yes, I will. God says the one that is chosen shall go in and they shall say he has hot blood.

For the spirit of God says, yes, he may have hot blood, but he will bring the walls of protection on this country in a greater way. and the economy of this country shall change rapidly, says the Lord of hosts. Listen to the word of the Lord. God says, I will put it your helm for two terms, a president that will pray, but he will not be a praying president when he starts. I will put him in office, and then I will baptize him with a Holy Spirit, and my power says the Lord of the host, come on.

Whenever you wake up in the morning, today is going to be a great day. You have to nudge your brain, right? We have a conscious mind. We have an unconscious mind. We have a self-image. And your subconscious is paying attention to the words that the conscious mind is saying. And so if you're like, oh, I don't want to get out of bed. Today is going to be a bad day.

You're going to have a bad day because you just programmed your subconscious mind to do that. If you want to have a good day, it starts the night before is what went well today. So when I go to bed, I say a prayer. and then I go, what went well. And I go on a treasure hunt because I'm purposefully looking for what are the right things that happened. And I look for the micro moments, you know, like,

what's the smallest thing? And for me, where I live, I see a lot of hummingbirds and butterflies. And I just focus on them. In 1290, all Jews were kicked out of England. In 1306, they were kicked out of England. were expelled from France, in 1430 exiled from Germany, followed by Spain and Portugal. They were also driven out of Russia, boycotted in Italy, and time after time, tossed out of

every major European city. But why? At a time when Christians were studying physics, art and astronomy, the Muslims focused on maths, medicine and poetry. But the Jewish community, from cousins and uncles to neighbours and friends, disproportionately worked in finance. Reba and Usheri banned interest, which gave the Jews a monumental advantage. Wherever they settled, centuries of financial knowledge plus interest allowed them to prosper tremendously, to the point they would own most important assets within every empire. This meant kings and peasants alike, all borrowed from the Jews, And when crisis hit the empire, repayment was no longer an option.

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