Badlands Media - Space Revolution Ep. 26: Why Space is a Path to Truth
Episode Date: July 9, 2026Ever wonder why a bunch of satellites floating in the sky matters so much to your daily reality? Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Steven L. Kwast sits down with Chris Ponder to lay the groundwork for their new "Tools ...for Truth" series, starting with a crash course in orbital mechanics that's part physics lecture, part treasure map. They break down the difference between low Earth orbit, medium Earth orbit, and geosynchronous orbit, and why that distinction matters far beyond rocket science. Along the way, the conversation drifts into the difference between "intelligence" and "information," how ancient logic and rhetoric still hold the keys to discernment, and why space itself might be one of humanity's best shots at building an incorruptible ledger of truth. Expect big ideas, some fun visuals, and a reminder that this is a journey best taken one lesson at a time.
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The Badlands, one of the Badlands, explain those Badlands.
That's a hell of a name.
All right, welcome everybody to Badlands and to the Space Revolution.
Today, my co-host is Chris Ponder.
We are starting to build the foundation for tools for truth.
And today, you know, based on the advice and some of the feedback I've gotten,
I'm going to do an episode here on why space is a path to truth.
You know, one of the questions people will ask, Chris, is I don't understand why space makes
such a big difference.
You know, they're just satellites flying up there.
Why does space open up a whole new territory of opportunity?
And that's what we're going to go over today in a little more detail and show some pictures.
And you'll see the reading is basically an orbital mechanics 101.
if you want to do it. The book is a bit expensive, but it has a lot of pictures. And so that's why I like it.
And it's a good way of really getting deep into how this all works. So Chris, how are you doing today?
Doing fantastic. You got back from up north and great Fourth of July.
Yeah, it was an amazing Independence Day weekend, celebrating a quarter of a millennium of
freedom and everything that President Trump did and the celebrations were,
spectacular. Absolutely. I heard it was 820,000 fireworks. Yeah.
Setting a new world record in D.C. Yeah, that's crazy. And it was amazing. And I know that,
you know, looking at it remotely for me is nothing compared to being there in person.
So I wish I could have been there in person. But I'm heading back up there tomorrow. So I'll
get to see the aftermath anyway. So Chris, what I'd like you to do is, you know, just as we go through
this, I want you as I talk about the realities of orbital mechanics and what space can do that
earthbound techniques and technologies cannot do, I'd like you to just jump in with implications
for the information system. And again, you know, one thing we might as well address up front, too,
one of our listeners last time asked the question, you know, you're dancing around the issue here.
what is the tool? You know, I want to know what the tool is. And I'd like you to rephrase the question
in your words, Chris. And then let's talk just a little bit about that before we jump into
orbital mechanics 101, which will be fun, some fun pictures, and give you a real sense for the
wonder and magic of the way God built this universe. And if we tap into it properly, it can really
help save the human race from lies and deception. Yeah, so I really like to do.
the question that, you know, one of you put in the comments. And again, we encourage all the
questions you have and any ideas you have. Because when we talk about this tool that we're
building, what one of you said is that it's kind of already been given to us by the Greeks and the
Romans with critical thinking and rhetoric. And there are really cool tools. And I would argue that
all of these tools of truth have been given to us by the past civilizations.
And it's really up to us as individuals to want to find the truth and want to see the truth.
And then we can seek out these simple logic tools in order to discern it.
And what we're doing here, what we're building in space and it's not only in space,
it's in our minds and helping us to understand when we look at anything, there's a
new framework we can put it through where so much of what we're given today I like to say there's
a difference between intelligence and information intelligence is a small piece of something
usually used to maybe push you or prove a point or something where information is sticky and it's
connected to the rest of the information in the universe so when you look at information you're looking
at a piece through a window and you can change that frame to be big you can change that frame to be
small you can look at a different spectrum on it you can look at you know the lot involved the life
involved in what form it has what the force is you can check your ledger and then eventually you can
understand the capability of anything so that's what we're going to be getting into as we as we
move through this yeah thanks for sharing that and again as we do unpack this you'll see some
similarities to blockchain techniques and what bitcoin has done uh to
to be survivable and to be immutable, where, you know, unless everything is destroyed,
you know, you still have that ledger that helps you triangulate truth.
So there's going to be a lot of similar.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
And also, I think that in the, when you take any class, you don't get the final, you don't
get the final lesson on the first day.
So, you know, we're going to kind of chip away at this and help give you.
the tools to see what we're seeing. So it might take a bit, but we promise there's a lot to come here.
Yeah, there is. Okay, so let's go ahead and get right into this. And I'm going to go ahead, Chris.
All right, I guess I'm hearing a little feedback from your system there. So I thought you were
trying to say something. So forgive me for that. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to show a very
basic picture here for everybody. And this is a picture of the earth. And a picture of where a
low Earth orbit satellite sits right there where it says Leo, that stands for low Earth orbit.
Then the MEO next to the left of that is medium Earth orbit.
And then geo stands for geosynchronous orbit.
But, you know, what's magic about a geosynchronous orbit?
And you probably heard that term, but people will say geo, but geosynchronous orbit,
the magic about that is that that satellite is falling around the earth at the exact speed that the Earth is rotating.
What that means is it is always having a staring eye on that half of the globe.
So as you take a look at the cone, you know, which is called the, you know, the field of regard or the field of reference,
a geosynchronous satellite can see half the earth all the time.
A medium earth orbit satellite can only see, you know, a smaller segment of the earth,
and it has to fall in a way where it goes out of view.
you might look up and see it, and then a few minutes later, it disappears over the horizon,
and it's gone. And it can't see you, you can't see it. And lower Earth orbit is even worse in the
sense that when you look up in the sky and many of you may have seen Elon Musk's starlings up there
buzzing along like a little train car of four or five satellites buzzing across the sky,
they come overhead where you can see them and they can see you, but then they're gone.
within a few minutes, seven, eight minutes, depending on where you're at and what kind of mountainous territory you're in.
This is why low Earth orbit and Elon Musk's Starlink requires thousands of satellites.
Because what they're doing is when you're looking at one satellite, it is, and you're using it for broadband.
It has to hand your broadband signal off to another satellite that's coming over the horizon.
And so it's a big game of handoff.
The two issues with that is one, if you don't have enough satellites, then you don't get full coverage.
And the second is you've got to build a bunch of satellites.
And the sad thing about low Earth orbit satellites is that, you know, they, when they run out of gas, they fall into Earth's orbit and burn up in the atmosphere, which is not good for the business case.
And it's not good for the environment.
So low Earth orbit, the strategies you see with low Earth orbit are not sustainable unless you're willing to build a new satellite every few years and send it back up there.
So geosynchronous satellites go up and they can stare at the same spot.
So just with a few, instead of thousands of satellites, with just a few geosynchronous satellites, you can do the same job of seeing and understanding what's going on.
on Earth. Now, it's further away. So there are issues with latency, meaning how long it takes
for the speed of light to travel. But those are manageable with other satellites that are flying in
orbits that are not necessarily right around the Earth. So that kind of gives you a kind of reference.
So as you hear me talking about low Earth orbit, medium Earth orbit, and geosynchronous orbit,
you'll understand that there is usefulness in each orbit. But,
geosynchronous orbit is very special because you're always looking up and you're always connected to a satellite.
In other words, you know, you can see what's going on.
The other satellites can too, but ultimately it's a lower price point for the business and it has a staring eye on the planet.
Okay, so I'll bring this down and I'm going to just talk a little bit about, you know, what that means.
and then I'll show this reference here.
So this is another picture showing those orbits
and how far out they are.
And the other thing to mention here,
there are other orbits than just these three.
There are elliptical orbits where it flies very close to the earth
on one side of the earth,
and then it flies way out into space,
like a big elliptical circle,
and then it comes back in to low Earth orbit
and or medium Earth orbit.
Those satellites also have usefulness depending on what their mission is.
But all of these satellites require fuel to some degree or another.
But I'm going to show you, so this gives you a sense of the distance,
and it's quite a significant difference in distance.
And the first one I showed you gave you that.
But this next slide here gives you a sense for the movement of low Earth orbit
or medium or high Earth orbit and what you can do when you have a constellation of satellites up in space.
And so we'll talk to this one for quite a while.
But I'm going to share this screen with you real quick and then talk about it.
And let me get to it real quick.
There we go.
I'm going to hit play on this.
And I'm going to come back to you.
One other, actually, there's another picture I want to show you before we really dive.
deep into the consequences, meaning what does it mean all of these things to fly at these different
orbits and be in these different places. So let me go ahead and stop sharing this and come back to you
here and show you this picture because this will help with some of that. Okay, sharing my screen,
and I'm going to go ahead and okay, can you see that now? No.
Okay, let me bring it up onto the screen then.
Here we go. There you go. Okay, see that? You see that, Chris? Okay, so this is an example of a geosynchronous orbit that is
motoring itself around the Earth and is doing so and I'll go ahead and play again on this
But it's doing so where it is
It is always looking at the same spot now that field of regard here that you see is showing a
small focused area but depending on the size of your aperture and the technology you can use these
phased array radars where you can look at half the earth or you can focus in on a small area depending
on what your mission is and what you're trying to do so this gives you a sense for why geosynchronous
orbit is is so valuable because you can do some amazing work at understanding what is true on earth
with a very small number of satellites, meaning it's more affordable.
And this is something that human race has never really done before.
What we're talking about, what we're designing here, is something unique.
So I'll remove that, and I just want to kind of mention the difference between a linear
model of delivery and logistics primarily.
But the reason I bring up the word logistics is because information is logistics.
It's ones and zeros.
It's information is in packets, and it's the logistics of how you can see and understand information
and how you can deliver it then to the customer that really matters here.
And so I'm going to give you this statement, which you've heard me say before if you've listened
to these shows, but we're going to really dig into it today.
The reason space is powerful at telling the truth is because on Earth we use linear systems
in a large part to deliver information.
And in space, we can use a network.
Now, there are networks on the ground,
and we're going to talk about that a little bit,
but we're going to talk about why the network in space
is different than the network on ground
in all the attributes that are important,
like speed of knowledge,
speed of decision-making, resilience,
the ability to defend yourself
against somebody who's trying to tell a lie.
We're going to touch on all of that as we go through this.
But here's the example between the power, the economic power of a network system versus a linear system.
And I use the mail as an example.
So the old-fashioned mail, you know, you've got to buy a stamp for however godly much it is these days per stamp, which is quite a bit, the better half of a dollar to put a stamp on a letter.
And that's a linear model of communication.
I write you a letter, Chris, and I send it to you, put a stamp on it.
If I want to send that to a thousand people, it costs a thousand times more than sending it to you.
And so let's compare that with a network model, which is the Internet.
If I want to write you an email, it really, you know, to you or to a thousand people, it's about the same price
because you're just paying for the broadband and for the computer and for whatever service you use.
use to type in the email.
And that's the difference in economics between a linear system, which is the mail service
in the U.S., or a network system, which is the Internet.
So this is the transition I'll take from linear systems on Earth for information and
going into space.
Comments on that, Chris?
Yeah.
Could another example be like when Netflix came out originally, they would
mail you a disc. You put that disc, you know, you put the DVD in and watch it, and this is
right after Blockbuster where you go rent it. But then Netflix started hosting, you know, they started
where they would only need one file of the video and then they're allowing people to stream that
video over the internet. Right. Yeah, that's another good example. So I'm going to show you an image
where we'll talk about the you know where we're going to talk about the network effect and how it
works in space so this next image that i'm going to share with you is of this network effect and
i'll go ahead and share that now and tell me let me bring it up here and then make sure you can
see it okay chris yep so our viewers can okay can you see that yeah so this is an image if you
you look closely, you'll see those little green dots moving, okay? Those little green dots are
satellites. These satellites happen to be in low Earth orbit, so you can see that a satellite
over a point on the Earth can really only see a certain width of distance on the surface.
But when these satellites, and so then if you go out to geosynchronous orbit, those can have a
staring eye on everything you see right now on the Earth. This is half the Earth. And now you can
see everything happening on half the earth. So two satellites, one on either side, could theoretically
allow you to see all the pattern of life on earth. Every car that's driving, every bicycle that's
pedaling, every ship that's sailing, every person that's walking. You can see everything with technologies
we have. So you see it in the movies all the time. But this is why space is valuable in the information age.
enemies are planning on using this to steal away your privacy and to understand what's going on
so they can steal, cheat, and lie to gain an advantage, whether that advantage is control of you,
control of your money, control of your freedom, which is what we're seeing right now in our society
and what we're fighting against. So this is an example. And so I'll use the analogy of your
your smartphone. Your smartphone right now is anchored to a system of about a million cell towers
in America. And even though there's almost a million cell towers in America, you still get only,
you know, zero bars in West Texas in many cases or at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, because the
cell tower has to see you. And if you're in an area where there's not a lot of customers, AT&T or Verizon or
these carriers have no incentive of putting a cell tower out in the middle of nowhere where there's
only two people that live. Now, the government has tried to solve that problem by forcing these
companies and basically augmenting their investment so that they build a cell tower in a place
where it doesn't make any business case, but they do it anyway so that there's a safety net
for people that need to get in contact with authorities for first responders or an emergency.
but it is a very, very expensive model.
And so this is why smart business leaders,
and the one I'll bring up is the company Link, it's called,
but they were the first ones that really put together this idea
of a satellite faking its way into you thinking
that it is a cell tower.
So now what you'll see on your smartphone
is if you're in a place with no cell towers,
it'll say SOS or it'll give you the option for satellite coverage,
meaning you can now talk to the satellite.
Now, it's still a bit too expensive,
but once Link did that and proved it out,
Elon Musk saw it and said,
that's a damn good idea, and he built his own.
And like with most things, you know,
even though Link had patents,
all you have to do is change one ingredient in the recipe
and you're no longer violating the patent.
And that's what companies do.
So it's good for people in the sense that now you're going to start seeing a whole universe
where you're no longer talking to cell towers, you're talking to satellites.
And that is now a network where every other satellite is talking to every other satellite.
Cell towers can only talk to each other if they can see each other.
And a cell tower in New York City can't see a cell tower in Los Angeles.
But what they do is they use something called backhaul communication.
where they will send it down to a central location,
and it'll go through fiber optic cables to Los Angeles.
And those fiber optic cables are now strong under the oceans.
So the communication will go to Europe.
So we have built a system on planet Earth that is okay to give you, you know,
a good call on your cell phone with you and somebody in Europe.
But those generally rely on satellite.
now or this backhaul communication through fiber optic cables.
The problem with it, one, is it's very expensive, and this is why, you know, your phone bill
is usually pretty large.
Two, it is vulnerable, meaning a cell tower is easy to take down if the enemy wants to stop
people from talking in a certain area.
Underwater cables are very vulnerable.
In fact, you just read the, you know, the writing in China, and they have their
submarines ready with a nice pair of cable cutters under the ocean ready to snip those fiber optic cables.
And what most people don't realize is everything in space, all of this wonderful work in space that
you're looking at right there in this graphic, that is reliant on this backhaul under the oceans.
So, for example, if China decided to cut off our communications and cut our underwater
cable going across the Atlantic or the Pacific, it would shut down most of the satellite communications,
because the satellite communications lies on backhaul in the terrestrial realm to get word to other
satellites. They don't necessarily link like you're watching right now to other satellites directly,
but that day is coming, okay? And that's one of the missions on our company, Space Built,
is demonstrating the ability for satellites to communicate to one another like you're watching on this demonstration right here,
whether it's in geosynchronous orbit, low Earth orbit, medium Earth orbit, or elliptical orbits,
but also if it's out on the moon or on Mars, that we start having a delay-tolerant network of communication in space
that moves us from basically a poor man's terrestrial model that is a network, but very important.
expensive and very vulnerable to a true mesh network and space that is self-healing using blockchain
techniques and ledgers like you talked about, Chris, to be able to make sure that the truth
is never lost and a lie can never be propagated because it is immediately impacted by what is
true. So I'll stop there for your comments, Chris, and then I'll go into the next chapter
of why this allows us to have a level of
truth that we currently don't have.
So I think when I started my journey many years ago, my first focus was on trying to understand
what the network was on the ground, where they saved the information and you know, where
data centers were positioned.
So I think what you're talking about here a lot is moving that data into space so that
our networks can can have access to it in space without having.
to come back down to earth and go through those ground networks. Is that correct?
Yeah, that's exactly right. You are literally cutting the cord. You know how we cut the cord
of the phone? Right. And we can now cut the cord of energy. And this would be cutting the cord
of information that is basically wiring us together on the earth when it doesn't need to.
In other words, building a system in space that nobody can touch unless they are in space.
And this gives us a level of advantage for the next number of years as an American society.
And I'll talk about that as well, because one of the questions we get in the chat and people always ask, well, all they have to do is detonate a nuclear weapon in space and, you know, they'll take out, you know, the communication.
or they'll just shoot it down like the Chinese shot down a satellite long ago.
And the reality is that you would have to kill every one of these satellites
in order to kill the ability to maintain truth,
just like you would have to kill every single ledger
in order to get rid of the Bitcoin blockchain and ledger, you know.
So this allows what we're talking about here is going to allow us to
to bring these freedoms or these possibilities to the rest of the world as well.
That's right.
And actually, that's one of the central points of this journey of truth, you know, the central
question of why does space give us a path to truth?
Why does space give us a path to truth?
And so now that we kind of have this foundation, I'm going to show you another, well,
Let me just show you a fun picture first.
This is a picture of one of our satellites, space-built satellites, in low Earth orbit.
So you can see the horizon.
You can see how low it is, but it's doing a job.
But it is going to be able to link to every other satellite that's up there, the fleet of satellites.
And then let me show you one, another picture of, you know, this is another one in low Earth orbit,
motoring around.
This one happens to have a nuclear reactor in the center.
center that's bringing power not only to this satellite,
but it can beam that power to other satellites.
And it can beam it to the ground so that you can be out
in the middle of nowhere and now you can have electricity
if you have a rectina.
So this is the technology that's coming to a theater near you
and this shows a satellite motoring around in low Earth orbit.
Because again, there's usefulness in low Earth orbit,
but if you want to have 24-7 constant coverage,
you have to have thousands of these, and that's very expensive.
And this is why we do this one, and I'll add this picture now.
This is some of our satellites, they're all modular.
So you snap them together and you can have a large transponder farm or a phased array radar or a large telescope.
And this is out in geosynchronous orbit where it's falling around the Earth at the same rate the Earth is rotating.
Therefore, it is constantly staring at this half of the Earth.
And so that gives you constant coverage where you don't blink at all.
because you lose a little bit when you hand off from one satellite to another, you can you can
sometimes lose some fidelity or a few seconds, a few frames of what truth is, of what's going on.
But this just gives you some fun little pictures of our satellites and what they're going to be doing.
Here's another one where our satellite, this is one of our factories where it builds the satellites in space
and it repairs them. It can go out and these little robotic mechanics can go out and get
space junk and bring it back in. We can melt it down and 3D print it into something else or use
the computers or the solar panels or whatever is useful. So you, one, never throw away anything in
space and two, nothing in space is ever again space junk and nothing ever again will fall into the
atmosphere and burn up to be microscopic elements of pollution that fall down on people's heads.
So there's a lot of benefit in all of those things. But let me bring up this other picture.
And what I'm going to do on this one is I'm going to be able to kind of show you the, you know, a representation of how the, why this matters for people all over the world.
And here we go.
I'm going to bring it on the screen in just a second once I hit play.
Okay, here we go.
Can't see yet.
No, I know.
I'm waiting for the right spot here.
And then I'm going to stop this at some point.
But okay, so here we go.
I'm going to freeze this in a minute.
It's the old thing they say, stop, hold for processing.
I need to get, oh, yeah, I like that.
So it's not letting me get rid of this one.
Let me try one more thing here.
Okay, let's try this again.
See if I can get this thing up.
There we go.
Okay, you can see this now?
Yep.
Okay, so the lower Earth orbit of the little yellow dots,
the medium Earth orbit and some of the elliptical orbits are the blue dots.
the blue dots and then geosynchronous is the the tall one and I'll go back so you don't have to
be distracted by that lady and she's doing kind of a tutorial 101 you know of uh there we go start it right
here so you can kind of see a move but you can see them moving and uh what what is showing there
is it's just showing the fact that uh they're moving at different velocities and those low earth orbit
But this is why we've done space this way, and that is that a company can have something in space,
and it just falls for a living.
It doesn't have to have thrust.
It just falls.
All of these satellites are just falling around the Earth.
And when they start getting, you know, when they start losing their velocity because of the friction of space winds, if you will,
there's winds in space.
It's basically radiation.
We call it space wind.
And that wind is like friction on these satellites.
and when it gets that friction, you have to use your thrusters to get back to the velocity
so you keep falling around the earth and you don't fall into the atmosphere.
So that's one of the things that we solve in space, you know, in our company, space built,
is that we can refuel our satellites indefinitely and we can send fuel out there indefinitely.
There's no running out of fuel where it burns up in the atmosphere or it becomes space.
where it's sitting out there and it becomes a hazard to other people that are trying to operate
around the earth. So now let me take this foundation where we've talked about the different orbits.
We've talked about the difference of a network effect versus a linear effect and how that is
still trapped in very expensive methods on Earth and methods that are very vulnerable to somebody
else intercepting and avoiding you from seeing truth because they can shut out the lights if they
want to do something dastardly. When we have a constellation in space that never runs out of gas,
because, and it doesn't take much gas to keep it in the orbit, but these satellites are built on
Earth, they're sent into space, and they only have a certain gas tank. And that gas tank is going to run out
because they were never designed to be refueled.
But, you know, the new fleet of satellites that space built is building and other companies are building are refuelable.
And so now, you know, so now we're moving from the analogy where going into space would be like buying a car on the lot that's brand new and it's full of gas.
And you drive it until it runs out of gas, then you have to go back and buy a whole new car to finish the trip.
That's how we do space, and it's stupid, it's expensive, and we have the technology now to do it differently.
So now when you can do that, and you can have a space enterprise that is affordable, and you can lower the cost, just like Elon Musk has broken the first barrier of the lower cost of access to space.
And space built is breaking the barrier of low-cost reusable satellites that do not become space junk.
now you can have a constellation of satellites that can see and communicate with every person on the earth
and it's more than just see and understand what's going on.
It's the ability to deliver information at the speed of light to anyone on the earth
to deliver information, not just information, but energy to that person if they have a rectina.
And because of the low-cost access to space and the ability to make.
mine asteroids, you can bring the trillions of dollars worth of resources on an asteroid and you can
bring it back to Earth and you can land it on Earth as light as a feather because now you have fuel.
This is the other thing about orbital mechanics that people don't understand. They think that
the only way to come back into the Earth's atmosphere is by going the speed of heat, you know,
where you come in and you need a heat shield and then you need to pop a parachute and land in the
ocean. The only reason we still do that is because we have not broken out of the paradigm of the
1960s. The only reason we still do that is we don't have enough gas in space to be able to slow down
and align our velocity with a velocity of the molecules of air that are rotating around the
earth at the same speed the earth is rotating. And that's 1,000 miles an hour. So when you stand on
this earth, you are traveling at 1,000 miles an hour.
as the earth is rotating. And just like we saw in one of our first episodes of
Space Revolution, where you saw a man in a balloon at the edge of space, jump off
of that balloon and parachute down to the earth and land as light as a feather.
It's because that balloon and that man was aligned and moving at the same velocity
as the molecules of air. So to put it simply, we never have to
have a heat shield and pop a parachute to land in the ocean.
And with all that danger, from the moment forward,
we have this capability in space, this logistics in space that space built is building.
We can now build something in space, do something in space,
and deliver it like Amazon's drones to your doorstep anywhere on the planet.
And we can do it at an affordable price point.
You don't need ships.
You don't, I mean, we still want ships.
We don't need planes.
We still want planes.
You don't need cars and trucks and trains.
You still want them.
You can deliver anything that you can manufacture in space, and that's everything.
And because all the materials in space are the same materials on the Earth.
And you can deliver it to any point on planet Earth.
And when you can transform logistics like that, you can transform the Earth.
Now, we're going to focus on truth and information.
But that gives you the context for how.
the entire economy of the entire human race is going to change.
And this is why the space revolution is the revolution of everything because of these dynamics
that we've never been able to tap into before as a human race that we can now tap into now.
And why the first step, the first thing we're going to do is the information.
Given this logistical reality and the low price points of this logistical reality,
we are going to deliver information in a way that is truth-telling.
truth telling. And now we can get into the rest of the conversation about why does space
allow us to see truth. So comments on that before we dive into the next chapter here for this
session. Yeah, I was just going to say that, you know, while I was up north this weekend,
there's a lot of spots where we can't get cell coverage, but also there's a lot of great
views that are obstructed by these cell towers. And so there's kind of two sides to this. There's the,
there's the side of, you know, respecting ourselves and respecting our planet and this ability
that with space, we can truly create a park here on Earth where we don't have to have these power
lines. We don't have to have these cell towers. We don't need the planes, but we want them.
We don't need the cars, but we want them. We can start to put more value on everything we're
doing on Earth because space can, space is where we can have that, that, that, that,
backhaul where we can have that true information and energy and everything delivered all over
the earth. And then we can now start to love, you know, where we live more and take better care
of our cities and our planet. Is that?
Oh, that's exactly right. In fact, one of the taglines as we raise money at space built is
what we are doing is going to uplift the human condition. It is going to bring people out of
poverty, out of ill health, and out of slavery, in whatever forms those exist anywhere on the
planet. That's the true purpose. Our vision is for the future. And when you talk about the
golden age, this is about the people in Africa that I grew up with that are still enslaved.
They are still without decent drinking water, without decent electricity, without decent information,
and without any tools to break out of the shackles they're in of slavery by the despots and tyrants
that hold food, water, electricity, money, and information as weapons against them.
So it's a great point, Chris.
So now I want to kind of get to kind of the final point of this episode
where we take all this background about horrible mechanics
and why space is different and really get to the key.
and that is why space is a path to truth.
Okay?
And this actually is an important thing.
By the way, Chris, we love the sound of children.
So, you know, just let them ring out.
Okay, yeah, there's starting a concert in Town Square across the street.
So that's nice.
So this gets to the central point of this episode.
And that is something we talked about last time.
and that is if you can see what's going on on planet Earth,
where you can see every person walking out of every door,
you can see every license plate, you can see every car,
you can see every action, and you can see it not just in daylight,
but at night and under the trees.
And in fact, in many cases, you can see through buildings.
You know, what do we do with this reality that's descending on us?
And when you couple it with artificial intelligence
and then soon quantum, when it begins,
when it becomes commercialized and operational.
What do we do with this?
And so this is why we are leading the charge
of starting with information,
where we are taking this reality
that's coming to a theater near you soon,
and we are designing a tool
that allows us to see truth,
but protect privacy,
you know, that people deserve their privacy.
and it can be a slippery slope.
And there are people that would say,
well, if it's a slippery slope
and if we're able to see all this stuff,
let's not do it.
Because if we do it, then we, you know,
I can't hide by going into that,
the woods over there, you know.
And, you know, I wish we could turn back the clock.
I wish we could put the genie back in the bottle.
You know, it would be like saying,
we're going to put electricity back in the bottle.
We're going to put the,
control of fire back in the bottle. We're going to put the internal combustion engine back in the
bottle. We may wish for those simpler times, but those simpler times were not necessarily free
of insecurity, ill health, and a lack of information and poverty. At every juncture where there's
been a new invention. The per capita increase in security, prosperity, and health have gone up.
So even though the human race is a mess, you know, and it's messy, people are messy, and we are
sinful creatures, somehow God has allowed us to always increase the per capita people that
are, you know, in prosperity, health, and security. And so if we believe that trend,
line that is as old as time, then our job is to take these discoveries that have been popping
on the horizon of humanity, and that is space travel, quantum, AI, and have good men and women
design those tools into something that is helpful that puts our enemies on their heels,
evil people that want to use it to lie, cheat, steal, or spy on you are prevented from doing so.
And good, peace-loving people that love God and love other people as God loves us
are the masters of these technologies to usher in the golden age of peace, prosperity, and health.
So these are the choices we have.
Bury our head in the sand and do nothing.
Or courageous pioneers that are mass.
Mavericks going out there and designing tools to defend our freedom, our civil liberties, and our
privacy. That's what we're doing here. And I want that to be very clear to listeners because it's so
easy for our enemies to try to stoke fear, uncertainty, and doubt in our minds saying, oh, this is
dangerous. This is going to destroy freedom. That is a refrain as old as time as well.
by those people that currently hold power.
But the people that currently hold power
are not doing a very good job
because look at all the people that are in slavery,
even Americans,
and we have the tools to get out of it.
So we've got some work to do here,
but this kind of sets up this next piece,
and I'll keep this short,
so I get your response on this,
because you're the one that has the design.
You're the one that has seen the physical use,
universe in a way with such clarity and such ability to design a tool for triangulated truth,
that you're the real expert here. But what I will tell people is that when you can now see
what is going on in the world, and you can design systems that allow everybody to phone a friend
and to see what's going on in their environment, you can simultaneously,
design the tools where when they see something going on or somebody says something or somebody
does something, you immediately have access to whether that is true or not. Okay. Yes, you will never
be able to avoid somebody just lying to you out of their heart because they want to kill you or they
want to dominate you or they want to hurt you in some way. But the good news is over time,
that internal lie that they are telling you from their heart will be revealed because the truth
always comes out eventually. And what we're talking about is a tool where every person on the
planet can immediately fact check truth, not based on somebody else's opinion, but on physics.
Okay. And what is? And that if somebody is lying to you out of their heart,
you will figure that out much faster because there will be a track record of that person and their lies
that is revealed in the truth domain.
That's what we're going to build here.
And it starts with access to space that is affordable so we can design these tools to give everybody an even plainfield
in this narrative warfare, this information warfare, where only those,
those that own the information systems and own the media are the ones with the advantage.
Now we even the playing field where every human being, no matter how much they make, no matter where
they live, no matter what they believe, they have the same access to truth as the richest man
in the world.
Yeah, I want to share an example, and my numbers aren't going to be accurate here, but just
it'll give the, what we're looking for.
I was working on something once in this group was presenting this project to us.
And they wanted to make an app for truckers.
And they said, you know, we're going to get 7 million new users over the year.
And it took me 10 seconds to say there are 700,000 trucks, you know, driving in the U.S.
So this idea of information where it's all connected allows us to see this truth where that person wasn't lying to me.
They were being overconfident.
But their information, it wasn't information.
It didn't make sense.
It wasn't good for me to hear or our business to hear
because it didn't track with what was real and what was true,
which is there's a certain, we know how many trucks there are.
We know how many tractor trailers there are driving in the US.
So there's things like that.
And then the other thing I wanted to bring up
is just this idea of,
connecting the entire human race to each other. So we've lived, you know, for, for in the last
4,000 years, we've, we've lived in different kingdoms and countries and networks and we've kind of
been stuck in these information silos and the people in power really wanted to enforce those.
And you get your information from us. You don't get your information from other people.
even now, you know, we're not getting information from other countries about things.
And the idea that we can connect the human race to each other from space is going to light something up in all of our minds, just like COVID did, where all of a sudden we were all connected because we were all, you know, potentially going to get the virus.
And it travels through, it doesn't care about our borders. It doesn't care, you know, about your race.
it's going to go after you.
No matter what you think about COVID,
it did something to our minds.
This revolution is going to do something to the minds of the human beings on Earth,
all eight billion of them.
And that's going to open up this area in our brains that allow us to think and allow us
to question.
And it's going to bring us together in a way where we're going to start wondering,
okay, I've received a piece.
I've received something from you.
Now I'm going to put it in person.
perspective. And I'm going to say, how does that apply to the rest of the situation? And it's going to
create, going back to that comment, it's going to create more critical thinkers. And it's going to
give our minds kind of these natural critical thinking tools that maybe we lost when we got
so isolated in our different cultures. No, that's a good point. I want to bring up two really good
questions that are in the chat. One is that, you know, if we give oversight to, you know, who do we
give oversight to and those oversight individuals, if they're observing us, they need to make sure
we are aware of the monitoring. And, you know, that's a great question. And then the other one is that
granting these authorities does it mean we should have access to everybody else on the planet,
you know, just because we can have access to everything, should we have access to everything?
So let me address both of those because they're great questions. And these are the guardrails
that we have to have on this.
What I will tell you is that when you design a system,
well, let's take Bitcoin and blockchain, for example,
that is a system that is a trustless system.
In other words, nobody's in charge because everybody can see the rule set
and they can see if somebody deviates from the rule set.
And really all of this hinges on the fact that you believe,
there are more people on this planet that are willing to be good and willing to not kill and
slave their brother than there are those that want are intentionally devious and evil and want to
want to enslave other people for their own benefit so you know if we are not a moral species
then there's no hope for us and we're just you know bantering around with no hope but the fact that
every discovery since the beginning of time has increased the security, prosperity, and health of the human race.
For me, is evidence of the fact that there's more going on than just technology.
And again, you're not going to stop it.
If we don't design an information system where there's nobody in charge,
and it's designed, and for the listeners to think about this,
it's not structured based on, you know, watching people,
it's structured based on physics, meaning it can't hallucinate.
It's based on physics.
And it's designed so that the information is only going to be,
you know, something used when there's something that has happened
that is detrimental to humanity,
that detrimental to people, you know, victims, slavery,
trafficking, financial,
mischievous behavior, money laundering. You know, the things that, you know, the way this is designed
is not going to give authority to any one person that's in control of this. It's a system that we
invest in because we want to see truth. It's a different paradigm, but it is also something we have
to watch because every tool can become a weapon. The nuclear, the understanding,
of nuclear became a weapon.
And now we're trying to get rid of those weapons and use nuclear for safe and pure, clean power.
It, you know, these journeys oftentimes go into areas of risk.
But again, to not try, to not take the step when we know for a fact, others are going to build
systems that will connect all of us with each other.
They will build systems that can observe and monitor, and they will not be constrained by morality.
This is really a journey where we as good people of the planet that are moral, that abide to the best of our ability by God's way that he has given us, by truth, because he is the truth, that we as an army of soldiers for good are going to design information systems that help.
keep us free and help reveal the bastards that lie to us. It's really, this is the, it's a next
step in the narrative warfare, the information warfare that we're already victims of. And there is a
tool out there that can actually reveal these liars for who they are and where they sit. And it's
using physics. It's using the way the world is structured, the way the universe is structured,
to be able to reveal this truth
and then guarding against these traps
that our viewers are rightfully pointing out
where if you don't do it right,
you can basically enslave yourself in the information system.
But Chris, your point is really important,
and that is the objective of this
is to provide truth to people around the world
that can literally learn
how to think critically with information that is true and gang up on all the bastards that are
lying to us and trying to enslave us. It is literally the workforce, the army of truth tellers
having a tool to defend themselves against others that are already doing what we're talking
about. They are already doing this. But we can get there first because the American entrepreneur
our system and the American way of free thinking and freedom is faster than communism, socialism,
and the slavery systems that are trying to design the same thing.
Yeah, and I think also the, you know, who asked that question, that's a great question about
who do we give authority of this to, we give this authority to God and we give this authority
to the universe and nature, just as they did in the declaration of independence.
And something that, you know, I worked through a long time ago was this concept of throughout time, in one of the future episodes, I'll bring up and walk through the Babylonian goal year.
It was a really, really, really unique tool that there were these people that would, when you became the king of Babylon, these people would come out of woodwork.
They spoke a different language.
Nobody knew about him.
And they would give you this tablet and it was a goal year.
it basically put everything that was going to happen in the sky for the next 79 years,
all the planets and all the things.
And it allowed the Kings to kind of make stuff up.
Like, I'm so angry with you guys, I'm going to block out the sun tomorrow.
And then the sun would go out to the next day and it was an eclipse.
But what we're doing is we're going to give everyone that information.
And then when we give everyone that information, you can't change it.
You know, I don't have the authority if I'm in charge, if I've got,
you know, let's say I'm putting some authority position,
I can't go change when the eclipse is going to happen.
I can't move the satellites.
You know, I can't change the information.
The information is there.
So what we're doing is we're allowing people to learn,
and once people start learning, you can't unlearn that.
So it's this idea that we're going to allow our students to innovate what we teach them.
We're going to allow the students to outlearn us.
We're going to allow strangers to come and recognize truth.
And then if they're aware of that truth and they're involved in it, they're as much in charge as I am or you are or anyone is.
So going back to kind of what we said last week with we hold our words up together.
We hold the truth up together too.
So I think that this space revolution and the I, we are, we are,
this is a new paradigm.
We're not giving any one group control of this.
We're giving control to the species.
And that's a really beautiful thing,
but it takes leaders like you, sir,
and great people involved.
And to want to do that,
another example,
if you look back to Tesla,
he had a great invention,
but it didn't make money.
And so, you know,
it was put to the side.
If there were great leaders,
then they could have figured out a way,
to have it make some money, but a lot of our systems today are based on making money and not
giving truth. So, yeah, no, it's true. It has to be profit with a purpose and we have to be
able to think beyond the money, even though the money is important because that's how we operate
in a sinful world where we turn an attribute of greed that is not good into a motivation system
to actually innovate and learn. But one of our listeners actually brought up a really good point,
because I talked about how our systems are based on physics and how the universe actually works.
And his comment was physics is based on assumptions.
And he's exactly right.
And I'll use the example.
And I'll tell you why we keep this in our minds.
When Einstein developed the general theory of relativity, he said,
this is what I see happening in my universe in the slice of the universe I can observe.
okay but he said but I know that it's wrong because it's only in the slice of the universe that I can
observe and the universe is so much bigger than what I can observe so this may work in this little
pocket of the universe but it may not work in every pocket of the universe and who knows it might
even change so it's it's a very good point and this is why you can't base anything on people
and or stuff. You can only ultimately rely on the fact that God is truth. You know, God's word is the truth
and our morality and our faith is really the only thing that will save the human race. Because this tool we're
talking about that we're going to be kind of building out together so people understand why it can make sense.
to help the human race take the next step in the quantum age,
is just one journey of a thousand more,
if God is willing to allow us to continue to exist
and doesn't come back and take us all to either heaven or hell,
depending on where we belong.
I will tell you that this ability to help people tap into their morality
and having more people on the planet participating
in this information revolution that's taking place
using space as the way of connecting them is a really good thing.
And here's the example.
In Africa, you know, there's a lot of people
on the African continent that have zero access to information.
They are enslaved, they are hopeless,
and they are suffering.
And yet there are as many geniuses amongst them
as there are in any other demographic spot on the planet.
When we can start task,
into the geniuses all, you know, in the African continent, the way we have in North America or in Europe,
you know, we're going to find that we have even more good people that are moral and ethical and and abide by God's way
that help us throw off the shackles of the few, the very few evil people that have been perpetually enslaving the human race over the millennia.
And we are at this juncture in time where if good people are willing to build and invent and educate the human race,
you know, we have even a higher chance of winning because we have more forces on our side.
You know, the demographics of evil are a small slice of humanity.
Yet a massive slice of humanity is not even in the fight.
and when we start bringing them into the fight with this information systems that are truth-telling
and they can discover liars and cheats and stealers who are also trying to play in this information domain
and this narrative warfare, we increase the numbers of our army of good moral people
and increase our ratio of good versus evil.
So this for me is one of the critical points.
we need to get over at this juncture in history.
Yeah. And I also just think that there's so much we all have in common,
and that's, you know, something that's going to be beautiful that we're going to learn,
how simple some of the things are. You know, you talked a lot about today about physics
and some of these things that beyond that too, it's like, uh,
like I see episode 26. I think irony, you know, and I think everything is ironic because,
you know the center of the planet is made of iron and uh anyone in any country in any culture
can can recognize that joke if you tell it right because there's there's only so much going on
so as we connect you know we're going to get smarter and the evil is going to be so hard to
to it's it's going to be so hard for them to do it because it's it's uh it's a lot more simple than we
it's a simple answer after all sometimes yeah so uh one of the other comments
the chat that's worth punctuating here because it's very easy for people to misunderstand and
misinterpret what we're saying. Let's be very clear. The only thing that allows humanity to survive
is the Holy Spirit in each of us that helps us understand truth and discern what is right versus
what's wrong. Everything else is a tool and it's a tool that can be a weapon against truth
and it can be a tool that is a weapon for truth.
It's really up to moral men and women to decide what they're going to do.
Are we, you know, so, you know, yes, we could go on the path of saying,
we're not going to do anything because we're just going to rely on the Holy Spirit.
But that is to go against what God told us.
What, you know, what Jesus told us in His Word,
when the disciples said, okay, Jesus, save the world, you know,
Bring your kingdom here.
And Jesus was like, no, no, no, no.
I'm not going to do it.
You're going to do it.
And that's what he asks of us.
He asks of us to work hard every day like it's all up to us and pray every day like it's all up to him.
And if we do that and we allow our spirit to be emptied of evil and to be filled with the Holy Spirit, we have a fighting chance.
So for all of those that are willing to just put their head in the sand and say, no, this is all bullshit.
These are all just weapons to replace God, have zero understanding about how history is unfolded
and how God has used good people to design tools for peace, prosperity, and health.
That's why America exists.
That's why we didn't bury our head in the sand in World War I and World War II.
Otherwise, we would be on the trash heap of history with our children,
enslaved and suffering. And God does not want suffering. God wants people to live in peace,
prosperity, and health. And he wants his people filled with the Holy Spirit to be fighters for that.
And to advocate that responsibility is to turn away from God, in my opinion. So Chris, thank you
for kind of joining me for this session, laying the foundation of orbital mechanics and kind of
answering the first layer of the question, why space is a path to truth. And I appreciate the
listeners. And for the listeners, this is about you learning this on your own and not being spoon-fed.
So read the book that's in the comments. And more importantly, do your own homework and bring us
back your questions and your thoughts. And we're happy to banter about every one of them,
especially the ones that are very critical and very suspicious, because that's the path,
the narrow path to success.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, you have a great day, and we'll see you guys next week.
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