Badlands Media - Space Revolution Ep. 40: Hydrocompression and an Information System Built on Truth

Episode Date: October 15, 2026

Steve Kwast and co-host Chris Ponder pre-recorded this one while Steve was in Italy for a family wedding. Steve opens with an update on President Trump's space initiatives: micro nuclear reactors in orbit, solar collection in space, and beaming power down to Earth by laser and microwave. Then they wrap up their 16-episode series on building an information system that can triangulate truth in an age when AI and quantum tools make it hard to believe anything you see, hear or read. Chris walks through hydrocompression and puts eight components on the board: life, logic, space, spectrum, form, force, ledger and capability. He ties them to quantum information, the fundamental unification force and what he calls quantum harmony. Steve explains how his company, SpaceBuilt, plans to put that neural network in space and turn it into an app that checks a piece of information against a universal body of evidence. The next series will show how to use it. Until then, his advice is to be a critical thinker and not a victim of information warfare.

The Badlands, one of the Badlands, explain those Badlands. That's a hell of a name. Well, hello everybody. Welcome to Space Revolution. I'm Steve Kwasht, and my co-host is Chris Ponder. Hello, Chris. How are you doing? Fantastic.

It's a beautiful, beautiful day here in Michigan. It's hot out. It's great. Can't complain. Yeah, good. Well, we're pre-recording this, just so you know, because I am in Italy right now. I went to a family wedding this last weekend, but I'll be flying home right during the live show. So we pre-recorded so that we wouldn't miss a beat and keep the train rolling here.

What I'd like to do, Chris, if you're willing, is just start with a quick update for everybody. Because since we started this Space Revolution show, and we started digging into these three main pillars of prosperity, information, energy, and resources. A lot has happened with President Trump's initiative, and I'll just mention a couple of them. One of them is that we are now putting nuclear power plants in space, so micro-nuclear reactors in space, as essentially the foundation of energy in space.

We will use solar panels in space. There's no question about it. The sun's intensity in space will allow us to use that for energy, but nuclear power in space is also very, very useful and it's safe. And when you're done with the uranium rod or the fuel source, you can just kick it out into the sun. And the sun then burns it up and brings it back to us in the form of solar energy, clean, sustainable, and beautiful. Another thing that President Trump is initiating is laser beaming of power. and then the radio beaming of power using radio waves to the earth from space.

So whether it's solar panels that are collecting the energy or it's a nuclear power plant in space collecting the energy, we are beaming that power safely to people on Earth and to people in space, whether it's a piece of equipment or it's a habitat. We can beam that power and we can do it using lasers. We can use it, beam it using microwave. We can beam it using radio waves that are safer for you as a human being than walking out into the sunshine at the height of a day. Or flying in an airplane where you're up high

and you're getting a lot of radiation. So just like we learned how to beam information and pictures without putting them through wires, we know how to beam energy without putting it through a wire. and that whole economy is coming to the planet Earth here very quickly. So those just gives you just a few of the revolutions that are taking place. But the most important thing we have to do as a human race with these new technologies in the space revolution

is build an information system that can truly triangulate truth better than the internet we have today and how AI and quantum can make it possible for you to not be able to believe anything you see, anything you hear, or anything you read. So we as a human race need an information system that we can rely on, that we can trust, and that's the series we've been on with Chris Ponder

for the last number of weeks. And today we're gonna kind of do a recap and we're gonna kind of put a final finishing touch on this series. And then Space Revolution is gonna jump into another series starting next week on the 21st that talks about how we need to prepare ourselves for the technologies that are coming.

Because any technology can be a bitter pill to the human race if we as human beings are not ready for it and preparing ourselves for it. And so we're going to go into a short series on that that I think you're going to really enjoy. So Chris, let's start with the title that you've given this final episode of the series on the information system.

And then let's go into it immediately to talk about some practical ways. of understanding how you need to think a little bit differently because we all think about an internet and about cell phones and about computers and that is not what we're talking about here and so it sometimes causes the brain to go tilt and we're trying to set the foundation of how you think differently about information when you let go of these systems we have in place that you can't trust that will always be free and open and there's no way of designing an encryption system strong enough to be able to survive, you know, predators trying to steal your

information or use it as a weapon against you. So Chris, over to you to start with the title and then dive into some of the content. Yeah, so this is going to be a fun one. The title here is actually something, is actually the title of a book that I put together about five or six years ago now when I was first, you know, on this journey. And the reason I wrote the book wasn't to publish it. It wasn't to, you know, like most people write a book. The reason I needed a book was because I had an idea and I knew that the idea had all these different facets to it, all these different parts to the idea.

And I really wanted to organize the idea into those things. And I wanted to spend time, I wanted to spend time kind of visiting with each of the component. So what I did, which was interesting was my book was 177 pages to start with. And I started with isolating 118 of those pages and just going through and putting the spectra or this the spectral color map for each of the elements of the periodic table so that, you know, an alien could read the book if they wanted to or at least make sense of, you know, the page and numbers. And so there was a couple games that were involved with the book, but the idea was hydro compression, hydro compression had emerged in my journey as the force that was bringing everything

together from all different sides. And this idea of gravity had really slipped away in my mind. So the book hydro compression and the whole big thing, it was actually called the cold heavy hydro compression and the whole big thing, aka the Kansas City shuffle. So the idea was that although I was looking at a computer, I was looking at an information system, I was going to look over at the scientific community and understand what do we understand the universe as? and that by understanding the universe, I was going to understand information. So the reason we call it the Kansas City shuffle is, if anyone's ever heard of that, you look left, we go right. It's basically like it's a con, but it's an idea of like, to me it's like a game. Like, you know, we're going to point over here and we're going to go that way,

but really we're going to end up over here. So the idea with hydro compression and the whole big thing is we're trying to attack what's the whole big thing going on? Like the big bang, you know, what, what's the universe? How did it get here? What is it made of? What's happening inside of it? And my answer to that is hydro compression.

So even though that might be a word you've never heard of before, or you might think that this is a topic you're not able to think about, I challenge everyone to just kind of sit back and take a nice, easy approach to what we're about to talk. about here and just let it let it land in your mind and then you know if you want to if you want to take these these components we're going to give you in a minute and go and research them you know any feedback is is obviously welcome but you know i think that this is uh this is going to help you help anyone really conceptualize how big an idea can be but also how any little idea can be but also how any little idea can be entangled into the whole universe.

Is that a good? That's good. Yeah, thanks for kind of framing that for us, Chris. You know, the way I would describe it to our listeners is that this reality, that we are connected with every other part of the universe, and not in a way where it's 100 million light years away, but we are connected with every part of the universe right to the world. right where we're at.

That is a weird thing to think about in the way you've been taught physics and math and geography and geometry. But it is more consistent with what we see going on with the behavior of quantum. And I think that it is a beautiful way to think about it. The other reason people are getting excited about the idea of how

hydro compression is that it starts explaining also what we are discovering with zero point energy, or to put it another way, the fact that you may feel something that we have called gravity in the past, but it's really not gravity. What you're feeling is the compression that exists everywhere in the universe, and that compression is like potential energy that you can turn into kinetic energy anytime you want. It's like having a rock on top of a mountain. And all you have to do is let go over the rock and you have kinetic energy. You can convert into electricity or into any other form of energy you need. And it's all sitting right under our nose, right here, in abundance. And when you start thinking the consequences of that, and the engineers that I'm talking to

that have already figured out how to tap into it, they just don't know how to control it yet. tapped into it and it's like tapping into the nuclear bomb you know it's it's powerful that they've got to figure out a way to control it the one technique that seems to be working is going to be interesting to many of you and that is spinning discs discs that are spinning are a way of starting to capture this compression in a way that's manageable so I always think you know if you had a wristwatch with spinning discs on it and you can could control and you say, I want two watts, I want 10 watts, I want 100 watts, I want a billion watts.

You can tap into almost infinite energy in a controllable way to deliver it where it needs to be to do what you want it to do, whether it's heating your home, cooling your home, powering your lights, powering your car, your aircraft. The use cases are infinite. So this is the implication of Chris Ponder's word here, is that it connects us with regard to information, to, to, every other molecule in the universe, no matter where that molecule exists, and it connects us to energy, right under our nose that we can tap into

with almost infinite power. So I'll stop there and let you start getting into this first, some of these examples that help people really think about this in a different way. Yeah, and I'm gonna give myself a little homework here after our talk with Jordan Sayther, he had reached out and asked if I'd watched Stargate SG1, the show from back in the day.

And I need to go back and watch that because it seems like there's some parallels there with what we're talking about. But anyways, all right, let's do this. Because when you were talking on one of the last shows, you were drawing some shapes that were in that Stargate show. And he was like, wait a minute, you know, where did those shapes come from? And what do they mean? And who knows what?

So I think you'll like that, Chris, because you came upon these things independent of other people. And it's an example of how bright minds can look at the universe and they can learn. And they start stumbling on the same things, the same shapes, the same geometry, because the universe is truth. And God has put into the human heart the desire for truth. And people who seek truth, find it. And when they find it, it looks the same, whether it comes out of the brain of Chris Bonder or Einstein. Right. And I think for any of the listeners, you know, when I kind of went on this journey and I isolated myself to look for something that was a pattern. And so even just today here, I'm not trying to tell you that I think this is the, you know, I'm not trying to say that what?

Yeah, it's not the end of all be necessarily. Right, right. This is just a pattern I found, and it looks like it works, and then you start to see it elsewhere. So, so anyways, all right, let's do this. So what I want to do first, and we usually try to avoid these topics, but we're 16 episodes into a series here. So I feel like it's finally time. We can talk a little bit about protons and atoms. So an atom.

Okay, sorry. I thought there's somewhat banging. So an atom, just for now, has three parts. It has a proton, it has a neutron, and it has a neutron. The protons and the neutrons come together, and they form the nucleus, and the electrons are on the outside. The reason that I wanted to bring that up first is because there's something curious that happens when we're looking at what an atom is.

We know that there's a proton. We know that there's a neutron because the neutrons are what makes something, you know, radioactive or not. It's how we measure what an isotope is. But as far as the electrons go, we don't actually measure the electrons. We measure how many protons there are and then say that that's how many electrons. Is that accurate? Yeah, it is because, you know, there's many different energy states. and it is really, you know, it's not what we learned in high school.

So the idea in my mind with electrons has been, well, they can either be individual electrons like we're measuring or like we're saying there are, or maybe the whole system of electrons is like one big circuit and one big supercomputer. And that would go back to what Steve was saying about zero point energy. and the trouble with trying to get only a little bit with the spinning discs, where if it's all connected, you might just get all of it. And that would be like too much energy that might blow up your lab or something. So there's an interesting component there. So now that we know what we have as an atom, we can say, okay, well, if we want to,

want to understand what's going on with all the atoms and have basically we end up at this idea of like a grand theory of everything right and if you look at these if you look at any you can go online and you can look at like what the current contenders are for like a theory of everything and what what you're going to find is that currently the general theory of relativity doesn't check out with quantum like it doesn't work with it doesn't work with like glue ons or it doesn't work with quantum mechanics so you can then ask yourself why and one of the big reasons that stood out to me was I'm sorry about the banging we're doing construction in here but that's okay they're building they're building the information system there Chris yeah yeah you're

building it right behind us so so one of the reasons why it didn't work was it didn't appear that it didn't appear that the general relativity like entangled itself with with everything around it so so the easy answer for my mind was to aim at the idea of quantum to aim at the idea where everything would be connected and then to to build out a build out a general theory that was that was able to fulfill the, you know, the requirements to connect everything. And then so before I get started with this, I'll say there's one other part that was interesting, and I forget exactly where I read it, but there was someone who wrote a really cool article

on general theories and said, if anyone is out there, you know, coming up with the next general theory of everything, it would be really nice if you could have it unify the particle field. And I remember thinking like, oh, well, that's quite an interesting request. And so what do they mean by that? Unify the particle field. What I believe that means is make it so that at every level of scale, as we're looking at the universe, the particles, which are the protons, the neutrons, the electrons, the particles are operationalized. So that should be enough backstory to now get into how we're going to do this. So the first thing I'm going to do here is I'm going to put eight things on this board

that relate to light, logic, space, spectrum, form, force, ledger, and capability. And these are eight components to this idea of hydro compression. So the first one for light, we're just going to be. to put quantum. Now this is quantum information. We want all of our information connected. We want everything in one system that everything is unified. Everything is, you know, this is the singularity involved in all that. So now this, so this is like our life. This is, this is how the, this is what the nature of the universe is. The next one for logic, we're going to do a general theory of information. And for the listeners, just as he's writing this down, this is where this

information system requires you to ask the questions and utilize the technology of this information system to query the universe for the alignment between the piece of information you're querying and the potential for truth or the potential for it to be a non-truth. Keep going, Chris. Right, like if I were, if I were to plug this in and it doesn't work, that's not true, right? Okay, so we've got quantum. We've got a general theory of information. Now, I'm going to come back to the general theory in a minute. The next one we're going to put here for space.

We're going to put fundamental. I spell that. You know, as you're writing this, Chris, it reminds me, you know, the banging in the background is not distracting, but it reminds me that just like the Wright brothers invented an airplane in a bicacicle shop, you're inventing an information system in the upstairs of a theater as you're reconstructing it. Yes, it's kind of organic, right? Someday they'll write a book about you. All the great scientists tried to find ways of building an information system for the quantum age,

and it was a guy named Chris Ponder in the attic of a theater that actually disqualification. discovered it. So we've got fundamental form with space. So now with spectrum, we've got something called the heavy tractor. Now the heavy tractor, like each of these, we're going to kind of come back and do a little more in this one. But this is just the first proton. And say that again, it was a little muffled, heavy what? The heavy tractor. And it's just the first proton. And the reason I named it, the heavy tractor is it's a little bit like inspired by the great attractor, which is the largest gravitational anomaly in the universe. Great attractor, heavy tractor. It's a word game.

All right. So I think my board spun on me. So here's our heavy tractor. So now after spectrum, we go over to form. And for form, we're going to put the paragon. And again, for those listening, if you go back. to the first few episodes of this series, you'll have a deeper understanding of these words that describe the phenomenon in this process of critically thinking through the discovery of truth.

Right. So then what was interesting is I put fundamental form in the space section, and Josh Reed would really like this because I didn't put fundamental form in the form section because I was using it as a prime component, and then he talked about the adjacent relationships to the actual fundamental form in action is the paragon, which is our information system. You know, we talked about a few episodes ago. Okay, so now for force, we're going to put,

now this one is where it kind of lines up, we're going to put the fundamental unification force. So any listener can go look up online. What are the fundamental forces holding the universe, together and they're going to see there's a hole and I'm pretty sure we call it the weak force is that right the gravity is what's holding all the all the particles together so so see how that all right let's I'm getting ahead of myself all right now we're finally to uh the ledger and the ledger we're just going to put the theory of hydro compression and then for capability I'm just going to put

harmony so we got them all on the board that we can again for the list Yeah, so and before you start digging into it, just to reassure our listeners, the computations that are going to be taking place as part of this tool to assist you in thinking critically, whether a piece of information is true or not true, are going to be done billions times a second using a network in space that can connect with every person on the planet and every open docket document on the planet. It can tap into the internet, but it is not of the internet. And so just realize you've got this powerful engine of AI edge computing and soon quantum computing that is working billions of calculations a second in support of your

journey to discover whether something is true or not true. So just don't worry if you don't understand all the words. I encourage you to go back and listen to the early shows so you understand the terminology, the definition of the terms and the and the methodology of this eight question process, if you will. But just know all of this is working in the background billion times a second, providing you with with clues as to whether the piece of information that you are considering has a probability of being true or has a probability of being not true. And what is that percentage? Is it 98% probable that it's true?

Is it 1% probable that it's true? That will give you some evidence to go on in life beyond the internet and into the quantum era. So keep going, Chris. Yep. So now what I want to do is I want to highlight two of these. So we're going to highlight the logic and the ledger. So this one we have a general theory of information and this one I've got the theory or I should have put the special theory of hydro compression. So when you're looking at, when you're looking at the scientific world,

there's two different types of theories. There's general theories and there's special theories. As far as I can tell, a general theory is written with words about the whole universe. A special theory is written with abstractions or formulas, bringing in mathematics and covering, you know, a special isolated situation. So E equals MC squared is going to come at some level from a special theory where the general theories are going to use words like, what's a good example you want to use for that? Yeah. So the way I think about it is that special is a special is a special.

slice of reality that you can describe and it describes well. General is broader and that's where we get into trouble where the general theory of relativity does not explain quantum. And so now we're in trouble. So if you think about it like a game, we got to come up with some words that describe the whole thing. So we're going to use two words. Information exists. Boom. So we're we've got information exists. So if that's our general theory of information, that it exists, what anyone could deduce from that or discern from that is that everything that exists

is information and information is what exists. So I know it's kind of like too cute, but it's a very simple way to say, we've created a general information, we've created a general theory now. Now we're gonna look at what's the special that goes with it. And this special theory is hydro compression,

which is the idea that hydro compression here is gonna basically, I'm getting a little ahead of myself with showing these two first, but it's gonna summarize each of the components that we put in this group of eight. Because if you go back to that original, some of the explanations I've given, I've given what the ledger component does is it brings the other ideas together.

So what I would put here is the special theory hydrogen compression is really just that every every two particles in the universe have a relationship between them. And this this relationship between every two particles is what we're is what we're getting at. Why do they all move towards each other? You know, what is the force causing every two particles? in the universe to be unifying at a, you know, at a given rate. Yeah. So again, for the listeners, you know, the way I think about this component of what Chris just said is, you remember in the Bible when Pontius Pilate was talking to Jesus and, and Jesus said, you know, it was a, and Pontius Pilate said,

what is truth? When Jesus was talking about truth, Pontius Pilate said, what is truth? That is a very profound thing. to say because the theory this is all going to point to is that there is truth. Truth is defined as what is immutable, but true. There is truth. Where we get sloppy as human beings in our thinking is to think that truth is relative or that there is no truth or truth is whatever you define it to be. And this is why we have to remind ourselves that we are moral creatures made by God. And God is truth.

There is a truth. And others that don't want you to be happy, free, or independent, try to deceive you into thinking that their truth is what is really true. What we are doing is, and why Chris is saying information exists is because people that are liars, cheaters and stealers will say something or do something that they say is truth and it's not. It's just information. And what we're doing is we're taking all information and we're putting it through this gauntlet to try to bring it to a place where is it true or is it not true because there is truth. Foundational unrefuted truth and God is truth.

The universe is truth. And that's why Chris entangles the information. end of the universe and we can immediately see whether it is a lie because it does not conform to the way the universe is structured that's why every two particles that have a relationship with to one another actually can tangle that information in a way where you can immediately see if they're so keep going Chris but that's one way i think about it is that uh since the beginning of mankind people in power have tried to make you believe that their piece of information is truth And Jesus Christ is the only one that is come and said,

I am the truth, the way and the life. No man cometh to the Father but through me. And we are trying to use the universe that God created as a way of distilling, filtering out the lies. So only the truth makes it through because God is truth and the universe is truth. Yep. Okay. So what we've done here is we've connected these two in red,

the general theory and the special theory, information exists. And then I like to call this one Andromeda or love, basically the idea that every two particles, every two things, no matter what relationship you find in the universe, they are moving towards unification. And that's a beautiful concept. Because instead of the idea that the universe is expanding, you can think about it as the universe is complicating towards unification.

So the next two I'm going to connect are the fundamental unification force and fundamental proton formation. So the idea here is basically that if we go back to remember that person wrote that article that said, if anyone comes up with a general theory for everything, please unify the particle field. So I've kind of baked this right into the cake that the fundamental unification force is what we're looking for. So hydro compression is the idea that every single particle in the universe is related to every other particle. And that the protons that are surrounding the universe are all packed together, like without any space in between. them and that what we're measuring as the universe is anything where there's a space between two particles, which is an electron, which is heat, which is temperature, which is, you know, what,

what is potentially connected as God, as, you know, the, a big giant circuit. So this fundamental unification force is, is essentially what the force of hydro compression is, is, it's, It's the weak force. It's the thing that connects all the particles in the entire system into one rule. One rule set. So now when we look at fundamental form, the fundamental form is basically saying that every single particle has a form of eight that is the same as the whole universe. So that's saying that everything, so this is like the garden.

What we talked about with ghosts, this is saying every single thing that we're looking at has the same form. And then from there, you know, we can look, if we're looking at the universe, we're looking through the same frame. If we're looking at a particle, we're looking through the same frame. So when we're looking at a particle like an individual proton, that frame might be the eight gluons that come together. in that theory of it or it could be these eight components for a piece of information. All right, now let me use a different color. So one thing just for your edification, I was able to bring this up finally if you ever want to refer to it. So just I'll take it off and just tell me if you want to bring it up as a tool to help.

Yeah, let's get through this next two. two relationships that we'll bring it up. Okay. So now I want to connect the heavy tractor to the Paragon. So these two, basically, these are our tools within it. So spectrum and form. The heavy tractor is one proton. See how it's directly across from fundamental form.

So remember we said every individual particle has this, formation and so is the whole universe. So what we're doing is we're applying that to we're applying that to the spectrum and we're saying one proton is going to is is going to be first and then now every single proton we create in the system, every single form we create in the system, we can connect back to that initial proton and that gives us spectrum. That gives us a time component to it and then now from there we're going to build out this is all protons and Arthur eddington did some great work on this um did some really great work on on how many protons there are in the universe and so we're just starting with the eddington number there and we're

going to we're going to you know push truth out of it and we're going to figure out you know we're going to figure out what is the truth on that but basically 10 to the 88000 protons. Now if we want to think about these two in relation to the information system we've been talking about for, you know, 16 weeks here, this is one ion and this one, the paragon, is all ions. So we don't know how many there are, but it's like a register. So this is going to register all the... Okay. Okay. So our final relationship in this, We're going to relate life to capability or quantum to harmony. So basically, this whole relationship we've just talked about here is going to give us quantum harmony in hydro compression.

So the reason I'm using harmony here is because it's something like a river that's flowing that everything can get entangled with. And if we entangle ourselves all in a quantum harmony, that would be what truth is. I would propose that that's what truth is. So that covers our kind of our system here. Oh, a V just landed on me. So what we're going to do is we're going to build for the listeners. We're going to build this information system and we're going to test it out. And we're going to see how it does, you know, where we,

We test it with things we know are true, but others may not know and see how quickly and how useful this tool is for all of us that are truth seekers as we go into this space revolution age, this golden age where it's hard to tell what's real and what's not real. So this is good. Yeah, do you want to bring up that?

Let me bring this up now. So this is so anyone can relate it back to the ghost in the garden episode episode number 27 where we covered life logic space spectrum as the prime information then we covered form force ledgering capability as the core automation side of it so we've put each of these we i'm pointed with my mouse that didn't work but we put each of these things from the board here into you know what component they they relate to so the quantum information general information theory fundamental proton formation and the heavy tractor are the prime component where the paragon fundamental unification force special theory of hydro compression

and harmony are the are the core automation you know components to this this overall system And this idea here, I think the biggest thing that this gives us is, again, opening that particle field and connecting everything at the proton and particle level to everything else. And that's what I believe we've been missing as, you know, as thinkers is in the way that we've been taught and the way that our schools, you know, have given us information, what they've left out. is how it's all connected. So another way that we can another thing we can kind of introduce in this episode here is the law of attraction versus the law or the harmony of hydro compression and the idea would be that like today's world we think about everything in this law of attraction where like I'm a big entity so I'm going to attract other big entities or I'm going to attract

smaller entities are like, law of attraction is really like you start somewhere and then you're like grabbing at things. And that's like chaos in my mind where hydro compression is everyone is starting at the same place of the whole universe and you're piecing things together and you're coming in on what you want to look at. So you start from the outside and you work your way in down in terms of scale. until you get to what you're interested in, and then you see the relationships

along the way of what that thing you're interested in is related to. So they're completely opposite approaches, whether you come at something from the law of attraction or versus coming at something from hydro compression. Another way to think about this is if we're trying to, if we're trying to look at how this how this is going to apply to each of our individual lives or how we can use this in our mind,

I would say that the idea of hydro compression is going to remove complication from anything you're doing or thinking about, and as something removes complication, it should feel good in your mind. Your mind should have more, you should have extra energy that was just released because the complication was released. And that should allow you to emotionally recognize what is truth. Yeah. And what it does is it brings a sense of peace. Yes. Oh, we just lost yet. I don't know where Steve went there. But yeah, it brings a sense of peace. Well, it's a sense of peace and no anxiety. And this is one of the things that is riddled throughout the Bible, that God says, you know, that if, you know, if you know the truth, you, you are at peace, you don't have to worry, you don't have to be anxious. And, you know, the great hope here is that if we can develop an information system that helps us triangulate truth,

even though there will still be people out there that are evil, that lie, cheat, and steal, if we as good people of the world can tap into an information system that is trustless, that helps us triangulate truth, there can be more peace in the world, less violence, less hatred, more understanding, because truth is cuts across every culture, every language, every belief system and ideology. Truth is such a powerful thing. And this is the great hope that we can have more peace and prosperity, less anxiety, and less tension in the world with an information system that helps us communicate with truth. Right.

And I think that when we have an information system that supports truth, it'll be interesting. because I would I would hypothesize that once that system exists, it would actually be, you would have to work hard to, you have to work hard to get away from truth. Because truth is uncomplicated, it's peaceful, it rests in your mind naturally, where untruths, lies are going to require you to work hard to sustain that lie. to so so it's going to be that you know the evildoers out there are going to have to work really really really hard to keep their evil up in a world where we that's true it is the old saying that you know that my father used to always say you know when you tell the truth you don't have to have to worry

about what you're saying because when you lie you have to remember all your lies to keep it consistent and what a burden that would be you know it's uh but it's a twist on that where it's easy when there's truth and it's very complicated, very difficult, got to work very hard when you lie. Yep. Well, so I think this is a fun. I hope the listeners can, you know, maybe we'll try to get a screenshot of this. But, you know, I don't think anyone has to get in here and dig through each of the individual parts too hard. The idea really is that we're searching for truth and we're searching for information systems. And here at Badlands, we've got, you know, we're going to try and test drive this at some point.

And we've got something that, you know, we presented over 16 episodes kind of hitting all the wave tops. And you know, anyone who wants to can dive in and totally get involved in something like this. Yeah. So what we're going to do is we're going to mechanize it. So my company, Space Built, you know, we're going to build the, the neural network in space that can communicate, you know, an app, if you will, to every person on the planet. But not in the way that an app works on your phone right now.

It's not a place where you go and you ask a question of chat GPT and it gives you an answer. It's a place where you can start asking the right series of questions about a piece of information and you have something that can assist you in connecting it with the universe and showing you where there's inconsistencies and where there's consistencies. And it's not based on large language models or anything somebody has written. It's not based on anything other than the physics that we know is true to the best of our ability. So, you know, the Maxwellian equations, the things we know that are true. And yes, it's true that there are certain special theories that are only a slice of reality

and do not necessarily apply properly everywhere in the universe. and there are general theories that are, you know, based on words, but we're not going to trust because we just don't know whether that's an observed truth or not, you know, what is. And so we're going to take this on the test drive, and the real litmus test is this. Can a fifth grader pick up their smart device or their phone and use this application, this information system, to put information in, and then to query it about information that they are curious about. So a fifth grader hears something from somebody, you know, somebody tells them that gold only weighs so much. You know, that's an easy one.

But what if somebody says, you know, my dad invented the light bulb, or that's too easy as well. My dad was born in Africa, okay? How is that fifth grader supposed to know? But through a series of questions, you can actually start, you know, one, practicing your skill of critical thinking, and two, have a supercomputer, super intelligence helping you by not asking other people or look at what they've written necessarily, but by basing it on how that entangles into the way the universe is designed in a way that really only minds like Chris Bonder can fully understand, but we can mechanize it in a way that it's useful to a fifth grader.

That's my goal. And then you can take it on test run and see how it works. You can, you know, right now it's so easy to prove how stupid chat GBT or any of the other AI engines are. What you can do with this information system is try to break it and, you know, and see if you can prove, because it's not going to give you answers. it's going to basically give you the ability to know what is true. To the, to, in a way that makes it a probability that this is true or not true. Okay, Chris, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.

You have the final word. Yeah, I was just going to say, I know, what you were just saying is, you know, another way to think about how people will use this is, you know, when students learn about things like World War I and World War II and the American Revolution or anything about history, instead of just taking what the teacher says, what the textbook says, and putting that into their minds,

we're going to ask them to plug that into something where they can suss out the truth of it and ask whatever questions they want. And we're going to have a very different situation of hopefully learning and how people to really learn and then apply that to today. We can ask ourselves, what's going on anywhere in the world,

and start to, you know, entangle that question into all these components. And that's going to let us discern, you know, who's lying to us on the mainstream media and where we're able to find good information. Yeah. So for final word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, one other thing before you close us out, because this is another one that I know people struggle with. When we enact this information system and start putting information into it, it, it, um, it, um, you know, it will get better and better with time because as things are happening in the world, it will apply information from social media, from written word. I mean, it will look at all these things, but assume that everything is wrong, but it entangles it with the physical universe and with, you know, the volume of information that exists in the world, the truth starts emerging out of the sea of chaos

that we have in the information system we have today. The internet is a sea of chaos. You don't know what's true, what's not true. And only if you trust a person that's telling you something, do you have some modicum sense of, or some small sense that maybe this is true, maybe it's not. But you always have to have this critical mind this critical thinking or this suspicion that maybe it's not true.

You know, you've got to prove it to me that it's true, that this is what is. So this will grow with time and its ability to be able to say that piece of information is suspect. This piece of information has been proven to be firm every time I check it and it's checking it constantly. So let's say you put a piece of information in this system today. going to be testing that a billion times a second for the rest of its life, meaning the rest of the existence of this information system, to see whether it's true or not.

So if I come back to that lie that I put into the system, for example, maybe if it's a very sophisticated lie, the system doesn't know whether it's true or not. And you get to test. How long does it take before the system tells me that this is wrong based on the physics of the universe and the way this triangulates with other people and their opinions and other events and the triangulation and the geography of the stars and the alignment of the planets and the vibration of the particles in the universe it's going to tap into so many sources that the internet does not tap into that it really boggles the mind this is why when chris says you've got to

think differently about this because it's not it's not a mindset or a parent of the past information systems that we've had. It is tapping into a universal database of evidence that you can paint your piece of information onto and immediately or very quickly see whether it's congruent with the universe or it is not. Is it congruent with the body of knowledge or not? Is it congruent with people's testimonies or not?

And the testimonies don't have to be true or not true. But if there are more people on this planet that love their neighbor that know that truth is important and that tell the truth the truth starts emerging and a lie starts receding into the sea of chaos and the truth starts emerging like a monument of this is what is and it'll get better with time in the early days it may not be fast and it may be murky and the percentage of whether this is true or not may be low but we are building something for the ages. We're not building something to solve a problem overnight.

We're building something for the ages that's based on first principles and natural law and go back and listen to the episode we did with all the different content providers in Badlands Media that are all trying to be truth seekers. And I think you'll enjoy trying to learn about what we're doing. and then someday when we have this built in space space is the primary geography upon which this will be housed and you your your smartphone will be connecting to those satellites and you can take it on a test run and see what you think yeah okay kars over to you for final words even though i spent a lot of oxygen there well i would i would just say that as you were talking a couple good examples would be like you know what when we think about who kill

of John F. Kennedy or who killed Charlie Kirk, you know, these are questions that we can, we don't have good systems to plug in, you know, what information people are giving us. So when the government just declassified all this information about Kennedy, it's still like that kind of law of attraction idea where, you know, we're grabbing at things trying to make sense of it, where if we have a system like this, we're going to, we're going to compress in on it. we're going to be able to it's going to make it really hard for people to confuse us or lie to us. So those are two two good things to think about. But my closing words, I would say this has been such a fun experience for the last 16 weeks to jump on here once a week with you.

I've learned a ton. I feel like I've grown a ton. I was super freaked out about doing a podcast at the beginning, but, you know, it's not that bad. and I'm really looking forward to, you know, where we go with this and how Badlands is involved. Yeah. So thank you. Well, thank you for being such a courageous man to take this incredible invention and your bright mind and being willing to share it with us and let us build it. The audience has given us great feedback and great thoughts about the right questions, the right principles, the right,

guiding lines between privacy and all the other issues that surround information and how it's been used as a weapon against us to try to dig ourselves out of that trap. So thank you, Chris, for sharing. And we will come back to this again once we've built the first working model to operationalize this capability. And it'll be a lot easier to understand once you start using it than it is at an academic level. we're trying to describe something that has never been before. It goes back to one of these other sayings that I think is so powerful and yet funny. Everybody loves innovation as long as it's been done before. But when people look at something that has never been done before and they've never seen it before,

it really does make the brain go tilt. And you're like, one, what the hell is this? Two, how does it work? And three, how is it useful to me? and we're going to try, you know, so this first 16 series was, one, what is this, and how does it work? The next series will be, here's how you use it, and then let you decide. So that's going to be a fun one. And again, like with any journey, it depends on how much money I can raise and how quickly I can build this out.

But we're going to do it as fast as we can because, you know, the future can't wait. We are in trouble now. We need this information system yesterday, and it doesn't exist right now. We need to build it. So until then, don't believe a damn thing you hear or see or read and be a critical thinker asking the tough questions so that you do not become a victim of information warfare and that you instead are the warrior on the side of truth.

Thank you, Chris. God bless you, and we'll see you guys next week. Yep, bye-bye. Peace between the houses. was never meant to last. He will pay for this. He will pay for this. House Tallow has called its banners. House Beard Oil has answered.

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