Badlands Media - Taking it Back Ep. 130: Final Month, Pulte's FISA Trap & The California Election Setup

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

This is a special one. Adel Nero opens by announcing that June will be the final month of Taking it Back on Thursdays, closing out a show that has been on the air since 2019. From there, he and Zak Paine dive into a news mix that swings from the absurd to the strategically consequential. They open with the New York Democrats officially replacing the words mother and father in custody law with gestating parent and non-gestating parent, then pivot to the DC exorcist who was fired for publicly suggesting UFOs are actually demons. The conversation deepens into a real breakdown of why the GOP Senate is freaking out over Trump's weaponization fund and his appointment of Bill Pulte as acting Director of National Intelligence. Zak makes the case that Pulte is a Scaramucci style wrecking ball, an outsider with no loyalty to the intel agencies, and his very presence is already torpedoing the FISA reauthorization fight. They close with the California primary and why both guys think a major election integrity reveal may finally be near. Last call vibes, big topics.

The badlands, one of the badlands, explain those badlands. That's a hell of their name. All right, what's up, guys? I hope everyone out there is having an awesome Thursday. Thank you for spending some of your Thursday with us here on taking it back. I am with my very good friend, Zach Payne. What's up, Zach? Well, not much.

Just chilling. Just chilling. Just chilling. It's all good. Yeah, so I guess we'll just kind of rip the band-aid off and make a little announcement here. at the top of the show and we'll continue announcing this throughout the course of June because unfortunately this is going to be the final month of doing taking it back on Thursday afternoons so we've got today and I think three more Thursdays left assuming I can make all three of them

which they've been kind of touching good lately as it is but yeah this will be this will be the last month of taking it back, which is kind of crazy. It's been a staple of the channel for a long time. It goes back to 2019 when we first started it, and it's had a hell of a run. Zach, you've been an awesome, awesome co-host on this show for the past couple of years, filling in once Dilley left. And I've had an absolute blast doing it, and it is hard to say goodbye to it. But everything in life has a shelf life, right? And this is just a victim of circumstance at the moment.

And I'm still going to be doing some stuff on Thursdays, but it won't be the format that everyone's used to. But yeah, Zach, I can't thank you enough, man, because you've been, like I said, an absolute rock next to me here for the past couple of years, weekend and week out, making these shows so much fun, buddy. Well, I was honored to be a part of it for as long as I was. And I want to thank you very much, and I look forward to your future endeavors. All right on. Well, yeah, I know there's some people out in the chat that are bummed out by that. But, you know, I'll still be doing my Monday and Friday regular news shows. And I'm going to be doing something completely different on Thursdays.

I'll keep you guys posted as to what exactly that is here in the coming weeks. But for now, let's enjoy the last few installments of taking it back. that we have lined up. And also, just a big thank you to Badlands Media for syndicating the show and allowing us to get in front of a bigger audience on Thursday. It's super cool to be invited on to such a successful and a great network with a ton of cool people in an awesome audience. So, big thank you to Badlands for sharing some of the airwaves with me. That was awesome. And allowing me to double broadcast. Like, you know, it's not a show specifically for Badlands.

They were cool with me just syndicating over what I would normally be doing anyway, which was, which was pretty great. So, yeah, thank you to those guys as well. All right. Yeah, Zach, I was just kind of like scrolling around today on the Gateway Pundit, which, you know, despite their flaws, and there are many with the Gateway Pundant, they still remain one of my favorite stops just to kind of see what's going on newswise. I feel like the way they kind of headline and write articles gives me a good giggle from time to time.

Me too. Yeah, it's like, you can't say that the press. Wow, okay. It's a, how do I say it? They're always, I don't know, it's like the tabloids, but like slightly more realistic news. I don't know how to put it, but they're always, they're always fun. You know what? I do agree with you.

And I grew up frequently at my grandmother's house. And she always had issues of the weekly world news and the globe and stuff like that. And my mom would always say, these are tabloids. It's not real. And I can't tell you how many of those stories, as sensationalistic as they were at that time, have only years later borne out to have been completely true. You know, oftentimes it was, the word tabloid was used as a sort of a direct, phase, excuse me, a derisive phrase so that people would hear it and then say, ah, it's just a tabloid.

It's not going to be a real story in there. But quite often, this is one of the places that people would go to print stories that journalists in mainstream publications were not willing to print anywhere else. And it would allow them to get away with certain things that they couldn't get away with at these other places. And so sensationalistic, as it may be, it's all true. and I love it. You know what? It's kind of funny. I'm sure you've seen the movie or not the movie Men in Black, right? And don't they like look for for tips on like where to find aliens and the tabloids? Like yeah they do they do. It's all it's all disclosure man. They're they're telling us like that's so you see bat boy or any of those other

interdimensional beings running around. You heard it here first. Like that's You remember the story of George W. Bush meeting the aliens and he's like shaking their hand on the front cover? I did. That was one of my favorites. I loved that one. What's funny is like there's probably more real news in those tabloids than on like CNN or MSNVC. Like it's pretty hilarious. All right. Well, there was a few just kind of funny.

articles that I saw that I feel like we could have a little a little laugh. I'll start with this one here. Insanity. New York State Democrats passed bill replacing words mother and father with these two ultra-woke terms. So a woke new bill erased the terms, mother and father from state child custody in parental laws, a gender-neutral rewriting that is expected to spark a flood of similarly

clunky legislation. would be replaced with gestating parent while father becomes non-gestating parent or parent in family court passed this week by the Democrats, paternity proceedings to determine a child's biological father would meanwhile become parentage cases under the bill, which has, which was ran through the assembly in March and of the Senate this week. a putative father, also known as a deadbeat dad, would be called an alleged parent, an official state records under the bill, which was sponsored by liberal Senator Luis Sepulveda from the Bronx and assemblywoman Amy Pollan from Westchester, and will go to Governor Kathy Hochel's desk for approval. And this is hilarious. And in a way, like, kind of scary because this is straight up brave new world. Like I'm sure you've read that book, right? Oh, yes, of course. Yeah, it's pure retardation. And it's, uh, it's hilarious to me that despite, you know, I would, you know, I was,

I was to think that these people paid attention to public sentiment. You know, I mean, like, and for many years, I think that they did. And when they would get too close to the edge, they would sort of walk things back. but now I feel this like utter sense of desperation coming from that side and despite the fact that they're widely ridiculed and the majority of the world looks at something like this an announcement and says you know you've got to be kidding me I mean like these people are completely divorced from reality and you know I mean it's just I don't know dude I mean who is this for Great retardation.

Who is this for? Who is walking around in New York? I'm talking like even in the most liberal areas of New York, who is walking around worrying about the legal language around like mother and father as like the proper terms for a mother and father? Like where does this come from? What level of grandstanding or virtue signaling like do we have to fall to? Like what do they think this accomplishes? What is like the what is the outcome there looking? to achieve here? Like, this is so absurd. I mean, it's about the redefining language and the

definition of humanity. So undoubtedly, you've got like one couple that is trans or like a drag queen pair or something like that. And they reached out and they, you know, made a personal plea to one of these people. And in the effort to not feel or appeal to a sense of, you know, like, like inbred bigotry or be made to seem as if they are intolerant in some way, they've taken this and they have spun it up to its most ridiculous conclusion. While at the same time, there are many other issues that affect a far greater number of people in New York City and, you know, around the entire state, that I'm certain the people of New York would love. love it if they would pay attention to, you know, that they would actually address something of

real consequence. But instead, uh, they get to spin their wheels on something like this. They don't really do anything that affects anyone, but they do have a picture. They have a press conference. Uh, they have an actual bill that they've passed. They get to spend money on, uh, changing the internal processes and training these people. They probably have to pay people to come in, uh, who are, you know, maybe trans people themselves. And then they give them like a seminar on how to address them. And then, of course, the doctors, they've got to retrain the doctors. And they'll also have to have people policing whether or not this new language is being adhered to.

And if the language isn't being adhered to, well, that, of course, there's going to be fines. You know, you'll have a demerit system probably. And anyways, it's just an incredible amount of red tape, which is not going to push humanity forward in any relevant sense. I just want to meet the the purple-haired, nose-ringed, fricking lunatic out there that's walking, you know, down the streets of New York City being like, well, they don't pick up my garbage. And, you know, there's homeless people everywhere. And you can't walk the streets at night without being potentially raped by, you know,

some illegal immigrant or whatever. But at least they're not misgender. trans fathers in the courts, you know, anymore. Like, so go New York City. It's just, it's so freaking stupid. It's so freaking stupid. But I guess this is the same, this is the same governor here that was begging billionaires to come back to pay taxes in New York because.

Good luck. Oh, my goodness. Hold on. I have a new sound effect that may be appropriate. Okay. Oh, I don't hear it. No. You hear it all, man.

No. I guess I don't know how to make sure that it goes through. But no, didn't hear it? I heard it like it sounds like I heard something, but I couldn't make it out. All right. It is, it's quite literally the, the Stinger Punchline band from, you can't do that on television. Do da da da da da da da da. That would have been perfect.

Yeah, unfortunately didn't come through. Hey, shout out to Mickey Talks for the. the donation. This is Adel's a genius. Thank you for doing what you do. Mickey, I love you, brother. Mickey Cichella, Above the Rabbit Hole. That guy is awesome.

And then Matt do an awesome show. If you guys haven't checked out, Mickey and Matt, on Above the Rabbit Hole, please go do that. I was their guest on Monday afternoon. Had an amazing time over there. Those guys are fantastic. All right. Let's go to the next ridiculous story I saw on the Gateway Pundant today.

DC priest removed as exorcist after public comments suggesting UFO sightings were the work of demons. So this is an interesting one. America's top exorcist just lost his job over UFO theory. Let me pull this whole thing up. Mon signer, Stephen Monsignor. Monsignor. Monsignor, excuse me. Stephen Rosetti and Archdiocese of one.

Washington's exorcist for 19 years, publicly claimed that the most UFO sightings are demons capable of superhuman speed and movement. Cardinal Robert McElroy removed him from the role shortly after. The Archdiocese cut ties with his St. Michael's Center of Spiritual Renewal Entirely. Think about that for a second. A man whose entire career is built on believing in invisible supernatural entities got fired for believing in the wrong ones. This is so, I mean, again, just a weird story, but, you know, I think that he's not necessarily wrong. Graham Hancock wrote an amazing book called Supernatural, and he really explored the connection between people who can go into a trans state, a trans state, not trans, a trans state. I need to be clear, considering the last story, a trance state, and how he was drawing parallels

from old stories of pixies and fairies and how they were very similar to modern-day abduction stories, like UFO abduction stories, and was pondering the idea of, you know, interdimensional beings rather than visitors from distant planets or whatnot. It's a really fascinating read. It gets into psychedelics and human consciousness and some of the bigger questions in life. Graham Hancock's a really awesome writer and researcher. And he brings it all kinds of source material. That's super interesting.

But when I saw this, that's immediately where my mind went, because that's kind of how I've interpreted the UFO thing is more interdimensional than it is across, like, you know, interstellar galaxies and whatnot. not. So I don't know. What are your thoughts on this? You know, I mean, I don't know. I've never been to space and I've never met aliens, but I do believe in demons. And I definitely believe that there's even more out there in this wild and wacky universe that we live in than I have ever possibly considered. I think it's kind of crazy that they fired him for saying this. I don't think he would be like the first religious leader to suggest that as a possibility. I mean, it just seems like, Like he said it because he was the wrong one to say it. Like his position and his authority lends more credence to that idea. And I would, I believe, and I think a lot of people have believed for a long time that the Catholic Church is probably going to push for some type of alien narrative that they're going to lean into. and they don't want people to think that they're demons, even if some of them are demons and some of them aren't. I mean, like, I'm open to the possibility that, you know,

you've got demons that could very easily disguise themselves as aliens and convince people to do things that are horrible. And then, you know, maybe there are other creatures that we haven't been able to identify yet or that we have yet to define. I you know, there's just so many unlimited possibilities out there. But I think that they don't want him saying it because they are going to do something with the UFO and the alien narrative and that this is dangerous to that. Yeah, absolutely. This was interesting too.

He brings up tattoos. And I've never, I've never heard this one before. This is interesting too. So same guy says tattoos, they can be demonic portals. For example, there are some people who put evil images, pentagrams, demonic faces, names, or sigils that bonds you. The Exorcist shares a powerful case of a woman with a small rose tattoo from her past as a stripper. During deliverance, the demon reacted violently to Holy Water over that mark, requiring over a month of intense prayer to break free. He strongly advises against tattoos.

I don't recommend them. For those wanting to honor faith, he suggests use a miraculous medal or a scound. or a crucifix rather than defacing your body. That's interesting to me. I, again, I'm at the point now where I don't dismiss anything I hear when it comes to this kind of stuff, just because I don't know what I don't know. You know, the more I learn, the more I realize I really have no idea what's based in reality and what's absolute woo-woo.

But that's kind of an interesting concept, like the facing your body, your temple, if you're putting demonic things and inking them into you, it can act as some kind of energetic or spiritual portal to allow or at least maybe make it easier to be a conduit to dark forces. When you hear something like that, is that just insane to you or do you think there could be some truth to it? No, I absolutely think there's truth to it. I think that if you're the type of person who's going to have a pentagram or a 666 or some representation of a demon or a devil, on your body, evil things like that. I do think that that invites evil spirits into your body and into your soul. And I totally believe that 100%. I got a bunch of tattoos, but like none of them are demonic sigils. None of them are representations of evil. So yeah, I would have, you know, always have

stayed away from something like that, not something that I've been interested in. But yes, I think that he's totally, totally onto something there. Would not related, related to this story, but not, you know, anything they're writing about here. But would you, I was, I was looking at the article here. And at the very bottom, they have, they had this, another, another article says, Exorcist Priest warns against using Ouija boards. Do you, do you mess with Ouija boards? Have you ever messed with the Ouji board?

Would you? Like, to me, they scare the crap out of me. Like, I would never touch a Ouija board. you couldn't pay me enough freaking money in the world. I did when I was a kid, and I would never do it again, because I also believe that that is a direct portal to evil. Yeah, so absolutely not. I did not even believe that the concept of Ouija boards was real.

And so, like, I went over to a friend's house, and we were having to sleep over one night, and we used one. And I was convinced very quickly that those things do work and they are not from God. Like that is some evil shit right there. So yeah, I would never, ever touch a Ouija board ever again. I would never have one in my house.

If I stepped in somewhere and somebody was using one, I'd be like, peace. I'm out. You guys go do what you want to do. But that is a bad, bad idea. Yeah, I think I have known people who have used Ouija boards thinking that it was like totally innocent, had some, you know, experience with it. and then essentially like some demonic presence latched onto them for an extended period of time. Like things did not go well in their lives.

I just, no, never, never, never, never. Yeah, I'm the exact same way, man. Like you could offer me a billion dollars to, you know, like sit down and really use a Ouija board. And I would, I would, you know what, I'll take my, whatever my little modest salary is for my day job. Like, I'll just, I'll stick to that. Like, there's just no price. you could you could pay me to get involved in that that like even potential supernatural demonic world dude like that that stuff creeps me out beyond all belief um i don't i don't mess with it either uh but that's

like when i read about like tattoos like this guy's talking about or interdimensional like the alien thing being like interdimensional or demonic like all that rings as possible to me um and again the more right the more I learn the less I know I feel like so I stay away from all that stuff uh me too me too the closest I get to the spiritual or the supernatural realm is is praying and I do that on a daily basis you know I mean like I am not going to try to reach out to or invite anything into my life that is you know not 100% from God yeah I think that's pretty wise pretty wise. All right.

Well, let's get away from the out there and the silly stuff a little bit as much of talking about the insanity of New York City and the supernatural world. There's plenty happening here in the physical realm to discuss. There's been a lot of freak out, especially in the Republican establishment over the weaponization fund. I guess my understanding is that's been scrapped at this point. I guess the GOP Senate was kind of holding hostage funding for ICE and Border Patrol and amongst other things over this. Why in the world are they making such a big deal of this weaponization funds act?

I mean, this isn't like, I don't see where the harm is and making people whole for being unfairly targeted by the government. Are they still that scared of their own shadow as Republicans, like the media is going to write about them? Or like, I think that they are, well, first of all, they, either they truly believe that anybody who was present in D.C. on January 6th is a traitor and, you know, deserved exactly what they got. Or they're worried that some admission of culpability on behalf of the government, you know, being weaponized against them, you know, maybe that,

could also be used against them in the future in some sort of way. But generally speaking, I think that these people believe themselves to be more than. They think that, you know, they are essentially, there's something special about them. You know, I mean, you know, how dare you approach me? How dare you question me? How dare you be upset about what happened? And you need to just, you know, take your shit sandwich and eat it and be happy. happy that we're not throwing you in prison for the rest of your life.

Yeah, exactly. What do we do? Like, what, I look at this second administration and you, you consider what's at stake here. You know, it's the final four years of President Trump. He's like this once in a lifetime entity that actually has the ability to take back some of the ground that's been seated over the years. by the feckless establishment Republicans and really make some major waves. But not only that, you know that there is an underbelly of all of this waiting for him to be done, trying to outlast him only to destroy everything that he has worked on and go after him and his family,

legally, civilly. I mean, just trying to try to destroy his legacy. I mean, you and I have talked about how this is kind of a zero-sum game for President Trump. You know, coming into the second administration, there's no way he's surprised that the Senate was going to be a problem. You look up and down the Republican roster on the Senate, and it's, I mean, can you find five people in there that you would trust? I have a hard time. I mean, even Josh Hawley's gaveling in pro forma sessions, and you think he's like one of the better guys. Like every other president gets resusc appointments.

President Trump is denied that by his own party. He's proposing a bill that's 85 plus percent popular with the SAVE Act. He can't get any movement on that. You know, he has his weaponization fund. They bad talk. He puts Pulton as Tulsi Gabbard's replacing as acting ODNI. They attack him for that. what

like I said President Trump can't be surprised by the behavior of the Senate he knows he knows who these guys are going into it he knows what's at stake he knows that on some level you have to get cooperation or is there a way around these guys

like what do you think is is the end game here because nothing's getting past and they there seems to be a warlike posture between John Dune and the Republican established especially after the Cornyn thing.

Like they really are upset about that. How do you overcome this? Well, expose them and then make sure that there's another candidate that's going to be running against them in their next election. I think that all of these people who are behaving like this are going to be primaried out in the next election. I mean, this is something that wouldn't have been thought possible, but we've just recently done it in several different instances. and I think that the more obvious it becomes to people that these, you know, these people that you see every day on television, no matter what they tell you their beliefs are, in order to know them, you have to actually evaluate the work that they do.

And the work that they do is precious little. They're basically doing nothing at all except standing in the way of President Trump trying to make America great again and trying to make people whole. They're all traitors, as far as I'm concerned. and I think that people are really paying attention to that. And certainly, you know, one of the things that they're standing in the way of is fixing the election system. I mean, the election system is, you know, horribly broken. But even besides that, even with that being true, we've still been able to unseat a couple of long time incumbents.

And that is, despite their best efforts, spending hundreds of millions of dollars and getting all the support, that they normally would have had from people within their districts, you know, people all across the state now looking at them and saying, you know what, if you're not going to be working for America, then you shouldn't be in Washington, D.C. Man, I hope I hope that, you know, we can primary a lot of these people. We've seen successful ones more, like more so this election cycle than I think ever before. I think President Trump is like 101 and O, like in endorsements, which is free.

He lost one. He lost one this week in us. Iowa. No, no, no, no, no. It's good. It's good. It was a Republican state rep that was running for governor. And the guy that beat him in the primary is a regenerative farmer by the name of Zach Lahn, who's like, he's totally maha. And he wants to turn Iowa into the model for regenerative farming to get rid of pesticides and to get rid of all the poisons that go into the production of food all across America. So he wants to turn Iowa. Iowa into this model for the rest of the country to get exported. And he's totally in support of President Trump. President Trump only endorsed the other guy, like two or three days before the election. And Zach Lon won the election handily. And I've been looking into his platform since he won the primary. And he's great. I mean, he's totally great. And yeah, I think that he's somebody to watch. Why do you think President Trump endorsed the other guy, do you think?

Is it? Because Lon was an unknown quantity because this other guy had already been elected. He'd already won elections. I mean, President Trump, you'll frequently see this. Like, President Trump will endorse people who have name recognition, who it's more likely that they're going to win. But I don't know that name recognition and visibility is something that, you know, you can count on in today's modern political climate.

it. You know, and now that this guy is the candidate, I mean, President Trump is totally going to have his, have his back and endorse him, you know, I mean, better than anybody else. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. And that's super exciting, too, because the, the state of agriculture in this country is awful. And it's going to take probably a generation to repair the damage that's been done by the monocropping, the Monsanto's chemicals being sprayed into the soil for, a long, long time now. It's insane. Like, you couldn't, you couldn't sell American produce in a lot of countries because of the,

the practices we have here. So it's refreshing to see a state as, with as many farmers as Iowa, you know, potentially having someone like that in a position of influence and power to create a model of how to fix what's been so, severely broken and something's so crucial to I mean I hate to say national security because I feel like that's just thrown out there all the time but it really is like when you when you talk

about one the food supply in general but to the the health of your of your people and the cost of any amount of resources we spend versus the amount of chronic illness that people have in this country it's it's not tenable it's not sustainable I mean we spend more per person than any other country, and we have more chronic illness than any other country on the planet. So something's completely broken, and it really does start with the food that we eat and consume in this country. So it makes me really happy to hear that there's significant movement in that direction.

But you're right. I mean, the primaries have been awesome. We've seen the ousting of the one-eyed McCain, also known as Dan Crenshaw. that's fantastic. You see, was it Cassidy? That was... No Cassidy. Yeah, Cassidy got out.

John Cornyn, who, I mean, let's face it, John Cornyn is like a poster child of the McConnellite establishment, do nothing Republican. To see him get replaced with a hardcore Maga guy in a deep red state, like Texas is a really beautiful and welcome thing. Tom Tillis, that piece of trash is on the way out. Connell himself isn't seeking re-election. And that's a huge changing of the guard right there.

So you could see the flipping and the turnover happening finally. It's just, I would have loved to see this start in 2018. And we were like finishing it up, not just getting it started as President Trump is heading towards the final, the final, you know, two and a half years of his time as president. but I guess better late than never and hopefully it'll set up whoever the successor is with a more cooperative legislative branch

when it comes to the GOP, right? I mean, this is long overdue but it is but you know I mean there's a valuable lesson here because America is going to go on even after President Trump is gone and I think that people need to be prepared for that we need to have a

we need to be able to continue this work even if President Trump isn't in the White House. People can't, people can't, people can't look at him and think that he's the only way that we're going to fix the country. President Trump is a conduit through which we move into a new age where together, I think, we're going to be able to fix this country. But he's, he's not the only one. There's, there's millions of people like us out there. Yeah. I want to, I want to talk about, um, Oh, I forget his first name. The replacement for O'Donai is a Bill Pulte?

Bill Pulte. Bill Pulte. I don't know a ton about him. The name is somewhat familiar. But for whatever reason, man, again, the establishment GOP seems like terrified that this guy is taking over for Tulsi Gabbard. And I'm curious as to why you think that might be. What does Bill Pulte know?

What is, like, what does he done in the past? what is his skill set that that makes these guys tremble at the thought of him being in charge of the intelligence community's information what's his background Zach? Pulte construction. I mean, it's one of the largest home construction companies in America. And that's why he was chosen for FHA because it was right in his wheelhouse. Number one, most important, he's loyal to President Trump and to the goal of making America great again. that's the only thing that I care about. But number two, and it's a close one, it's because he is not from the intelligence community.

Bill Pulte is not compromised in the way that a traditional intel asset would be. He didn't come up through the ranks. He doesn't have loyalty to the CIA or to the NSA or to the DIA or whomever it may be. Bill Pulte is a total outsider. And by virtue of that, Bill Pulte, I think, is a just, as disturbed by the actions of the intelligence community throughout, you know, the 20th and the 21st century, as I think all of us are. And if somebody, Tulsi Gabbard has done a great job with the reforms that she's begun. I think we're supposed to see some big things here

this month before she takes off for good. But Bill Pulte, as the sort of Scaramucci model, acting Director of National Intelligence, he doesn't have to worry about. anybody, what they think of him, how they feel about him. He can be there for something like 200 days or something, and during that time, he can slash and burn. And that means that he can be incredibly damaging to the right people and to the right organizations. And he could also choose to expose all of the members of Congress who are owned by the intelligence agencies. He could he could literally show their asses to the world and make it an even greater case for why they shouldn't be there, why they should be replaced, or maybe why they should have charges brought

against them. And if Bill Pulte also coming in, this is the sort of 5D chess move that I'm seeing as a potential play. So right now the big fight in the intel community is about the reauthorization of FISA. FISA was the tool that. that was used to spy on President Trump and all of the people in his orbit. And FISA has also been responsible for a lot of intel that the agencies have used to make sure that we don't have a terror attack

happening on American soil. Now, if FISA was in place at the time that 9-11 happened, would 9-11 not have happened? Well, if the right people would have been listening to the Americans that were planning it, Maybe. I don't know. Dude,

does it come with a Hebrew translator? I don't know. Yeah, that's right. It's right. Okay. They would have heard Massad and M.I.6 and the CIA talking about how 9-11 was going to happen. And they would have heard all of the bankers working in the trade center talking about how they were taking the day off. So maybe, maybe 9-11 wouldn't have happened. But I tend to think that it really wouldn't have done anything.

If you look at all of the terror cases that have happened, like since 9-11, you've got a lot of, like, retarded people, autistic people, you know, foreigners who come here with like a sub 80 IQ who can very easily be manipulated. I don't know that you've had any real terrorists come to the United States and like try to legitimately plan an attack since 9-11. It's basically being a series of snow jobs set up by the FBI. And every single time they have one of the. people, they parade them out and they say, look, look what FISA did for us. Okay, well, now look at the last

10 years and you can also see in the grand conspiracy to try to destroy President Trump and all the people who were helping him. That's also what FISA gave us. So President Trump is the president of the United States. You can't come out and say FISA's bad. You used FISA against me. I don't think that FISA should be a thing anymore. Plenty of us say it. Okay. And plenty of people in Congress are also talking about how to reform it so that we could use it to stop bad guys, but then also make sure that it's not being used to warrantlessly spy on American citizens and violate our civil rights. So what is President Trump doing? He just nominated somebody that could come in and have a major impact on the intelligence community. And it's causing all of those people who are in danger

of being exposed to stand up and say, you know what, we're not going to authorize FISA again, both Democrats and Republicans. Okay. I love that. And so it looks to me like Bill Pulte is a secret wrecking ball coming in. His very presence is getting all of these people who would otherwise just be, you know, all over themselves to make sure that FISA does get passed. They are now standing up and, oh, no, no, we're not going to pass FISA anymore.

Oh, please, please. pass by is uh are you sure are you sure you don't want to pass the program that allows the government to spy on us without telling us about it oh gosh okay well you know i guess if that's how it's got to be bill pulte is still going to be my pick yeah leave with the president trump to you know turn turning Democrats into constitutionalists. You know, that's, you know, fourth amendment's important all of a sudden. No, I mean, there is definitely, I understand the need to be able to monitor potential terrorist threats, I suppose. I don't, again, I don't know, like, because I'm so in the world of like false flags that.

that I don't know what's real and what's not. And even like with the whole genesis of FISA was based on a false flag, like the Patriot Act was based on a false flag. Like all of that is Higalian dialectic. So, you know, even knowing that, like you still get this uneasy feeling a little bit of FISA going away. Like, oh, does that leave us vulnerable? And that just shows what a good job they've done with the propaganda and the false flags. and the emotional manipulation around these things. If they're going to keep something like that in place,

I think that it needs to be done in a way where there are a small army of defense lawyers that defend or at least force those seeking warrants to really show probable cause to get these warrants. All of those hearings that happen behind the scenes, you know, there need to be, diligently recorded with transcripts and you know if something is to come of that or you're

to find out that you were being spied on like that should be made available to you what kind of defense was given what kind of due process was given even if you weren't aware it was happening you still deserve i believe as an american citizen some level of due process when it comes to them trying to decide that you're worthy of you know being wiretapped essentially so i don't And again, I'm not smart enough to know how that should work, but there needs to be a level of due process and transparency, even if it is after the fact, to at least give people some level of understanding who, what, and why, you know, it happened. I think you're right, you know, and I mean, I think that, you know, this, the fight over FISA has just kind of been brewing for so long. generally speaking it's not popular among the American public people really understand what an abuse it is the conversation about this grand conspiracy is largely centered around the misuse of

FISA we've seen over and over again how government agents can misuse FISA and then essentially getaway Scott Free totally lie to the court and and during that time FISA has been has been used, okay? I mean, FISA during this last, you know, year and a half that President Trump has been in office, we've had FISA. FISA has been there. So who knows what they've scooped up in that time. I do not believe it was used inappropriately in the way that it was when President Trump was, you know, living at the Winter White House. But I think that there has definitely been ongoing investigations using FISA. FISA against all of those people.

And I think that at this point, either they're going to come up with something to fix it, or it's not going to be there anymore because of somebody like a Bill Pulte. But that doesn't mean that there aren't other tools that could very easily be used. If anybody thinks that you're not being spied on outside of FISA, man, I don't know what to tell you. I got some land in Nigeria. I'd love to sell you. It's beautiful and you can vacation there. But yeah, there's so many different ways that they can abuse this system.

And I'm certain that they are abusing the system. And, you know, extrajudicial ways, very, very easy for them to listen in on everything you're doing. They basically put bugs in all of our pockets. Every single computer can be turned on. The microphone can be activated. The camera can be activated. You know, I mean, I'm sure everybody's laughed when they saw somebody with tape over their, their webcam on their computer, but like, that's real.

Okay. I mean, I mean, that's a good idea. I laugh. I might have laughed. Honestly, not really, but I might have laughed until I saw Mark Zuckerberg doing it. And it's like, yeah. Okay. All right.

Well, that guy might know a thing or two about a thing or two. There's something there. So that's, yeah, I'm with you, 100% there. Yeah, I would like to see it go away too. It's completely unconstitutional, especially in its current form. We do have a Fourth Amendment or misinterpret it or whatever it might be. There's just no way the FISA court can exist alongside having a Fourth Amendment, a right to privacy. Oh, yeah.

And especially not with the D.C. district court overseeing it. I mean, it's like you're just, it's like the Fox controlling the henhouse, right? I mean, you've got the most corrupt judges in the system that are overseeing the most corrupt court in existence constantly violating our constitutional rights on a regular basis. So, you know, Q said FISA goes both ways. And Q talks a lot about boomerang. And, you know, how many times have you heard people say in these conversations that what man makes for evil, God will use for good? So I almost feel like, you know, FISA going both ways. They put this thing in there to track us, but potentially good people got a hold of these tools

and have kind of redirected them at those that wish to harm us with them. And maybe the beautiful poetic irony in all of this is going to be the very tools used to enslave us will actually be repurposed and redirected to liberate us from from this cabal. It's kind of interesting to see how this is playing out with the grand conspiracy, continuing to kind of heat up in a way. Like I feel like we're going to see some big things in the near future. I would love for this conversation about FISA to really come to a head with acting D&I Pulte, Democrats and Republicans both saying that they won't support it because they don't support him.

John Brennan and the Grand Conspiracy Investigation being fully and finally announced in the Southern District of Florida with the admission that FISA warrants are what led to all of this intel that they were able to glean over the last, you know, eight to 10 years or whatever, because then all of those people in Congress would shit their pants. and there's no way that they would vote for FISA at that point. Like that would 100%, they would kill it on the floor. And it doesn't mean that we can't use everything that we gleaned up until that point. But I mean, you know, at that point, we already have everything. We've got all of them. And there's no need for it anymore. I completely agree.

I completely agree. I want to get into the California primary before you go here, Zach, because this is very interesting to me. President Trump is trothing right now and has been trothing about, again, these, these ridiculous vote drops, the delayed vote counting, all of this nonsense. It was never a thing. It was never a thing until COVID. Then all, or really 2018 was like a test run, if you remember in a few areas. And then all of a sudden, COVID and there's a handful of states that just, they just can't quite seem

to count ballots more than a few a few a day. And none of the numbers ever make any sense. There's a black hole of transparency. You can't, you can't, like, you don't really let you into the room to really see what's going on. And it always seems to negatively affect anyone that might be on the side of President Trump specifically, but anyone against the Democrats in a lot of these situations. and I can't help but think about this right here because this was something that I never fully understood how it was going to come into play. And I know this was back in 2018, but I do think that there's some kind of future proves past here with this. But you had it in a non-asking, will election fraud be revealed soon?

Q said yes, midterms are safe, watch California. Now, the midterms were not safe in 2018, as we saw. You saw a seat be stolen in Arizona, Martha McSally, there was one in Montana, and then like all of Orange County, Southern California, which is normally a conservative, like, safebed. You saw like five seats get flipped, like a week after the election was over and really kind of threw balance of power off in the House of Representatives as well, which led to the Ukraine phone call impeachment and all that. good stuff. But here we are, right? The Save Act, all that stuff is coming up. You had the raid on Fulton County, Americopa County, getting all that information. Tulsi Gabbard saying, you know, they have information. President Trump, in an interview recently, I have the clip,

I'm not going to play it for the sake of time, saying like, we know who did it. And I don't talk about punishment right now, but we know who did it. And here we have California, an election that's made, especially the mayor with Spencer Pratt. and Karen Bass, like that election has gotten tons of publicity and exposure. And I feel like they're going to maybe try to pull something here. And this could be like a catalyst, what kind of pushes that snowball down the hill and turns it into a bit of an avalanche. What do you think, Zach? Well, I've been thinking the exact same thing.

I mean, this would be perfect, absolutely perfect, because everybody's attention is on California. And if, I mean, we know that California has got weight. too many people on the rolls. They already have used mail-in-ballot fraud in many different instances in the past. And I've thought for a very long time that they were just waiting for the opportunity to be able to expose this stuff. And what better way than to catch them in the act in the middle of it? You know, so I'm totally comfy with the way California is looking. And I think that this is going to be a huge, huge turning point. Yeah, I think so too, man. I think that there's got to to be something right here, very recent, that's very obvious to kind of push this thing where it

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