Badlands Media - The Shipwreck Show Ep. 44: War, Power, and the Cross: When Politics Claims God

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Tonight, I’m sitting down with J_T to have a conversation many people avoid—but desperately need. We’re unpacking war and the language used to sell it. We’re examining the GOP’s relationship with Christianity—and whether faith is being followed or exploited. And we’re asking a question that cuts straight to the core: What does Christianity look like when it’s stripped of party talking points and returned to its actual teachings? No slogans. No blind allegiance. Just truth, conviction, and an honest conversation. Follow J_T here: https://linktr.ee/jtfollowsjc

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American people demand. I mean, they deserve better. The podfather is back. They're eating babies, Dan Bongino. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Shabrek show. My name is Shabrak. And I hope you're hostess with the Mosis. And I've got a guest tonight.

Thanks for coming on. This is J.T. I found him on Instagram. I did. Thanks. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. You're welcome. You're welcome. How's it going? It's going well. You know, like you said, we're a lot going on. A lot going on. It's hard to keep up to all of it. So now what is, what is your content? Like, because I found you on Instagram, and I think I caught it. It was your video about, I want to say, well, you didn't want to about the war just like yesterday or this morning, too. But what, what would you, like, what is your content, just for those who maybe who don't know who you are? Well, you know, so I go by JT follows Jay C. So. I'm a JC being Jesus Christ, so I'm a Christ follower.

But, you know, I would, I long wore the badge of like a conspiracy theorist on my sleeve, but I'm, I want to lean more towards truth or I don't know if there's that much wiggle room between the two of them. But, I mean, like, conspiracies kind of got a little retarded over the last couple years. But, yeah, I mean, I'm, I think I started off when I first started doing social media. I was one of these people who woke up big time in 2020. I thought we were heading toward the tribulation. I've since maybe revisited some of the things I thought about eschatology, but truth be told, it was, you know, COVID, the 2020 election, all the things woke me up. And it was really just like a realization they've lied to us about everything.

And so my content's typically about, obviously it's biblically based, but everything else is really under scrutiny. And I like to kind of find the codes and movies and comic books and music, videos and things like that. And I talk a lot about maybe Tartaria, the old world. Those kind of like, kind of like, kind of like, like that kind of stuff. The Tartaria stuff I just started kind of looking into a little bit. Like I'd heard about it, but I'd never really deep dove into it.

That was the civilization before us that we don't talk about, that they deny exists, but is in like really old history books. Yeah, it's like in maps like behind me and stuff like that. Yeah, and it just, they just like, didn't they destroy it? What did they do to it? Did they destroy it? Well, I mean, that's probably a whole conversation in itself. But yeah, the Tartaria is on old maps.

It was obviously a place. Now, modern historians would tell you that the Grand Tartary or the Tartars were like the Mongolian Empire. And so we've just rebranded them a different name. But I think the way that we're shown in like through. history and culture and you think even like things like big and Ted's uh, excellent adventure. They show Gingas Khan and he's presented like a very Asian looking man. And that would make sense because it's Asia, but I mean, Asia is massive. It's not just a certain complexion of people. Gingas Khan is described as having red hair. So I think it's like a situation

where who were the Tartars? I don't think we're really sure, but Tartary is basically kind of a all for here's this weird building in your town that you don't really believe the historical narrative about so the Tartarians built it but I think I think there's a little more nuance to it but truth be told the thing that goes together with Tartari is the concept of the of the mud flood where you see a lot of the buildings a lot of the buildings are buried floors of the buildings are buried partial quasi basements and things like that there it looks like sometime around the maybe the late 18th century, early 19th century, it looked like there might have been some kind of reset.

And if you think about like how American history is told, of course it starts at 1776, but it's almost like the way we're taught in American schools. We have Columbus, then we have 1776, and we talk about the Civil War in the 1800s, but after that, it's like our history is kind of like lots of shadows of history, not really very tangible stuff. And if you read history about the 1800s, it sounds like a lot of lies.

It doesn't actually make any sense. Everything does. Like every, I'd read about the Titanic. That was, I'd gotten into the Titanic during COVID because the Titanic had happened right around the height of typhoid fever. And a lot of people were calling me typhoid Mary because I was an anti-masker at the time. And so they would be like, oh, you're typhoid. So then I was like, I got called it enough.

So I went and actually looked up typhoid. And so typhoid happened and then the Titanic would happen. But there was a bank run that also happened that caused the start of the Federal Reserve. And that all happened around the same time that Typhid was going on. And so I thought that was super interesting because then we had COVID going on, like this pandemic. And at the same time, like banks were having problems. A lot of banks were closing down. And there was a lot of uncertainty like economically.

And I'm like, wow, I wonder if we're going to have a Titanic moment. but now we're into war, so we must have just skipped that. I don't know. But I just, I thought it was really interesting how it all kind of lined up to the same thing as we were doing today. Was that this, does that include like the, somebody said in the comments, does Tartaria include like the flat earth stuff? Well, there was one kind of five-part, like series kind of documentary that a lot of people in my community have watched. It's called the Lost History of Flat Earth. Okay.

And it gets really into all the, it's, you know, it's about flat earth, obviously, because it's from the title. But it's more about the idea that the whole realm we live on is kind of set up by these, obviously, past generations had built the place like an electrical grid. And the buildings, the water, the cymatic patterns in the rose windows and Gothic cathedrals, the vibrational frequencies with the bells are connected with the water. and the, kind of like the, the geometric patterns and everything, the way things are built, was all connected based on the idea that there's the, the power of the ether in these old building could harness it. Okay. I did, I did read something about that because I was also looking up the crusaders, the Christian crusaders at the time. And it wasn't the crusaders, though, it was another group.

And they're still around and blessed if I can remember what they were now. The Templars? Yes, Templars, yes, the night of Templars, thank you. So the Night of Templars, they had watched this whole video with the guy and his fish. And he's like, the Knight of Templars went to go protect the Christians. And that was like their cover, though, because that's not why they were really there. What they were really there to do was to dig underneath all of these temples to try and find that exact technology left over from what he had called Tartar at the same time so that they could take control of it. because they knew that if the Jews or the Muslims got a hold of that technology,

then they would use it for war and they would use it for domination. So they went in to try and find it first and take control of it. I don't know if they ever did, but they did find some of the artifacts, I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that those stories about the Knights Templar, so I think what's really interesting when you do get into, like, what are they called the Old World or Tartaria. Yeah.

The most interesting things are probably what's below us. Yeah, that's why we stopped looking at the ocean and went to space instead. Well, not only the ocean, but just the idea that, you know, even I'm sure you've looked into the idea that we have all these underground military bases. Yes. But the truth be told, it's like, isn't it sort of weird that we just assume that our military government's tunneled under the whole earth and had set up all these very elaborate bases under there? Well, Hollywood did. They had all these connections with it. they would travel all over Hollywood and California on these underground tunnels.

See, it's my belief that the tunnels were old. Okay. Now, it's very possible that they retrofitted them with modern conveniences in like... Yeah, they had like a subway and everything down there. This lady gave a whole podcast about it. She used to work at this subway that was down there and she's like, this is where all the elites go. This is how they travel so fast. Well, there's...

Because they do it all under the city. There's even, I want to say that there's a old, I think when it's say it's like L.I. LA Times article about the underground parts of it even I think it even talks about reptilian being under there really I mean this is an actual news article there's ancient mythologies of this but I think when you start to research kind of our our history that's very fraudulent it's like the idea that there's underground sections of every major city in the United States and then when you get like the the normie tale about them oh they were used for bootleggers during prohibition.

Yeah. Okay, well, that might not be a complete lot. Well, we do have them under our city. Well, we do have them under our city and that's the whole story of the city. Am I cut now? There we go. My internet's been kind of wonky. So we like the, there's, so the city that I used to live in is a hub between Denver,

Colorado and then Chicago, Illinois. And so they have, there's a tunnel that runs from Denver, Colorado, all the way to Chicago, Illinois. And it comes through this city. And the city was a big port. And this is, the story is that they ran moonshine. And like all the gangsters and stuff, they would come through on this tunnel. But you're saying it goes back even further than that.

I mean, I'm just saying based on the way the story's told, it's kind of like, well, did the bootleggers create the tunnels? Right. The tunnels were already there because obviously you can ship all kinds of contraband using secret tunnels. But the point is they weren't digging under the cities to create the tunnels. The tunnels were already there. So that's a lot of the stuff I like to talk about is the fact that like a city like Chicago. If you look up historically in 1840, there was probably only like 4,500 people that lived in Chicago. Okay.

And then by the time you see the earliest pictures of it, it's completely built out like it's a full city. So there's... This was the original city burned down, didn't it? Well, yeah, supposedly was it... Supposedly. Was it Molly, the cow kicked over the land? Yes. The whole story is such bull crap.

I didn't believe it in elementary school either, and I had to do a whole report on. I'm like, none of this makes any sense. And they're like, it's all made of wood. I'm like, no. They weren't. But the thing is when they show historical pictures of it, it looks like, it looks very reminiscent of pictures from like World War I or World War II. The cities were completely bombed out because, you know, obviously brick and stone does not melt with regular fire, not some kerosene lamp getting kicked over. Right.

What's the cow doing in the middle of the city anyways? Like, how could a cow kick? over a lamp burned down a whole city. And it was like with like this lady, she was ostracized for the whole thing too. Which it was like the owner is the owners of the cow's wife. It reminds me like typhoid Mary. Typhoid Mary was a scapegoat for typhoid too

because she didn't actually have typhoid. You really want your mind blown on that just so you know. I don't know if that matters. Well, I mean, I think that's the thing. It's like Sue, we were told often about the great fire of Chicago, but you look up every major city in the United States and type in, you know, go look, do a web,

search. Type in any major city in the United States and put great fire in. And sure enough, there'll be at least one. More likely two or three. So then why was Chicago such a, why are we taught about Chicago so much then? I mean, again, like, well, I'm not exactly sure why, but I mean, is the same thing with like the narrative of San Francisco. San Francisco, the historical story is that that before 1849, there was only a hundred, there was only a thousand people in Chicago in 1848. I want to say that there was six major fires in San Francisco and also like two or three major earthquakes within like 30 years. But every time you see a picture of San Francisco, it's completely built out. There's not any construction happening. Like there's a really famous

picture. I'm going to say it's like 1873 and it's a panoramic shot of the city. And it's brick buildings, stone cathedrals, big, like Roman basilicas, you know, kind of like the courthouses. It's completely built out and there's not one piece of scaffolding. There's nobody working. There's nobody even in the streets. It's very easy. It's very eerie. So it's kind of like that people, you know, who research Starteria or the old world, we've

started to make the connection that when they say these cities were founded, they were found. So you think that they were there before? I think that America is a lot older than they tell us it was. I could roll with that. Well, there is a, see, the thing is, and you can kind of back this up a little bit with the fact that San Francisco wasn't supposedly even discovered by the Spanish until 1776, but there's old maps from the 1500s where it appears exactly where it's at. And it actually says San Francisco or S. Francisco. Now, Chicago, same thing. in the 1500s,

there's a place called Shalaga on old maps, like right where Chicago's at. But why would they lie about that, though? Why would they lie about anything? I know, but that's, and that's what I get hung up. I'm not saying that it's not true.

I definitely, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because after all this, like I'm open to anything. You want to talk to me about flat earth? We can do a whole show. I'm not judging anybody. But my question is,

and I had the same question about, like, flat earth. And the answer that I got for flat earth and the reason that they rewrote history for flat earth and made it a globe was to remove the biblical element from it because the flat earth idea comes from the Bible and the firmament comes from the Bible. He created earth and the Bible as a whatever.

And so they're like, well, they did it to remove, to start removing God from your ideology of how you were created and start convincing you, you were brought up by monkeys, which I never believed either. I still don't. I had to explain this to my middle kid too because they learned about evolution. He's like, well, they said they came from monkeys

and he's like, and I asked her, he's like, well, then who created the monkeys? And then he's like, my teacher didn't know what to say. Like, well, exactly. I mean, like, how does, and why do we still have monkeys then? Why have it all monkeys then evolve? Why did some organisms decide to remain a mosquito?

Right. Why did fish remain a fish? It evolved into us, but they said, I'll stay here. This is fine. We didn't get into dinosaurs too. Like, why didn't they say dinosaurs stem from like birds?

A lot of it. A lot of people do. Well, then why didn't all the birds become dinosaurs? We still got some ostriches. I'm convinced. Well, we're told, I think the science tells us that dinosaurs devolved into chickens. Oh, yeah.

So, I mean, that's really kind of if. But I don't know. I believe that. is anything and natural selection is a thing why would an apex predator ever evolve into something that gets eaten smaller a lot right yeah see none of that makes sense like you're going to get me to believe Noah and his ark before you get me to believe that well so that to go to your question though so why would they lie about the idea that there was these old cities already here well for one if you do learn a little bit about our history at least the ones were our supposed history is

is the robber barons are credit, excuse me, are credited with like everything that we have today. Who's that? The robber barons. So you'd say like the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers, the families, the Morgans, the Thomas Edison's, got it. Those kind of people. Yep. The Andrew Carnegie's, they're credited with doing everything.

So you have this industrial revolution in the 1800s. And these are the people who, quote, unquote, built America. Correct. And they had a history channel show about that. Correct. So, but this new economy that we still operate on is based on petrol, based on oil. So just imagine for one second that there was a alternative energy source that might have been free. You know, because that's obviously one of the conspiracy theories is that, well, how did they build any of this stuff?

Before power tools, before automation, before, you know, excavating equipment. how did they build all the stuff they did? Well, they likely had some kind of a technology. So imagine if that technology was free and renewable. And then this new economy runs on this quote unquote, you know, they want to say it's like it's a limited resource of oil that is monetized in every which way. Like when you think about all the different products that come from petroleum now,

like things that we probably were wearing right now. and all the pharmaceuticals, all this stuff, it's all built on this idea. So Rockefeller basically creates the modern school system and then we're taught, this is the history. And of course, they wouldn't want you to know that you could potentially get free energy because they would lose all their power if they did.

Yeah, kind of like that guy that built that car that ran on water and he's like, he was on Facebook. He's like, look at me. And then the next week, he died. I think he died, actually. I was going to say he disappeared, but I think he died. died. I think he just randomly had a heart attack, some kind of, which they can do from a long

distance away. I learned that a long time ago. They've had that kind of technology since before I was born, because they had whole congressional hearings about it. They could do direct energy weapons and they could cause you to die from like blocks away. Absolutely. So you think about like just if you if you believe history, sometime around the 1860s, they invented the call. Yeah. And then by the 1960s, they went to the moon. And they called the White House from the moon. All the time before human history, man was just putzing along.

But the way that technology has advanced, it's almost like they've re-released things that were not necessarily brand-new inventions. Like people like Nikolai Tesla have so many different patents that it's almost, it's it's really unlikely that one person came with all that stuff. It's more like somebody. Didn't him and Thomas Edison get into it too? Like wasn't he, he was an apprentice for Thomas Edison, wasn't he?

Right, correct. Well, that's what we're told. Yeah, historically. Yeah. And then they had a falling out. And then, because he, because Nicola Tesla wanted the energy to be free, he didn't want to patent anything. So he wanted it to be free for everybody.

But Edison, who was in cohorts with the government, and was like, they wanted to charge for it. And that's why they did what they did. And then they discredited Nikola Tesla. And he ended up dying like on the street alone. Yeah, dying. Pennyless and crazy.

Yeah, with pigeons. If I remember. If you think about it, it's funny when you talk about electricity, that kind of gets back into the old world stuff. Because if you've ever researched like the world fairs. Yep. It's, I mean, if you really look up the timeline of electricity, it's crazy to think that.

that they basically invented electricity in like, I think, the 1880s. And then by 1893, Chicago, as you mentioned, Chicago, they built that, was it the Columbia exhibition in 1893? And they called it the White City. And it's this Greco-Roman just, I want to say it's like 200 buildings. Just amazing. I mean, when you see pictures of it, if you've never seen it, you cannot believe that was actually Chicago.

But not only that, they lit it all up. It was all... With their newly found electricity. Brand new electricity. And if you think about the logistics of wiring all the buildings, and this was before they had like light bulb factories that they could mass produce. Right. These things would at least partially needed to be made by hand.

And who did all that work? And they did this, like they built this World Fair in like two years. So you think that we've had that technology? Because a lot of people think that about AI today. right that this tech and i know for a fact that a i has existed long before then we got our own little chat gpt right oh yeah because we know so you think like this goes all the way back so what's interesting about going back to like nicola tesla you know the story about nicola tesla and trump right like where are you at on time travel just curious um no i mean i've i've heard a

little about that i mean it's it's weird enough like those weird stories about what the ventures of barren trump yeah the werner von brawn book about how this man named elon's going to go to Mars. I'm going to say it wasn't even the Epstein files that that Jeffrey Epstein was looking into time travel. Yeah, so well, with the Trump stuff, there's that. There's the marvelous adventure stuff.

But Donald Trump's uncle, John Trump, was like a physicist or some big deal, went to some big cover. Right? But he was the one that actually cleaned out Nikola Tesla's apartment and was tasked with the job of

going through all of his work to see what he, after he died, to see what he had and what the government could use. And so he went and he got everything and he went through it and he gave it all to the government. But there was a book that was missing from a series and he said he didn't know where it was and he doesn't know why it's missing.

But a lot of people think that that book holds the codes for time travel and that he kept that and it has been in the Trump family kind of ever since. That's where a lot of that conspiracy, it's not even really a conspiracy, like it's a documented, like they had congressional hearings about it. It's not really a conspiracy.

This actually happened. But they think that, and now we got like Elon involved and you talk about the, yes, in the Epstein files and the time trial. So a lot of people think that he used that and built a time machine. And that's why things from like 29,

on are so messed up because it is messed up, not just politically, but I feel like our time is going by a lot faster and I feel like we're jumping timelines. We have so many Mandela effects. Yeah, the Mandela effect. So what I think is really interesting about that

because I told you, I like to maybe kind of see what's in the movies, you know, because I knew they reveal a lot of stuff through that revelation of the method. If you think about the movie Endgame, you know, the Avengers movie. Yes, I've watched that. Oh, with Dr. Strange?

Yeah. So you have infinity war. So infinity war happens. Thanos comes and he wins. And so I always like to point out the fact that that Thanos is like this God character. He's like this inversion where when he first shows up, he's saying, I am. He's got this guy who's coming out and he's like evangelizing saying even in death,

you can be children of Thanos. So his grand goal is to snap his fingers and make half the universe disappear. It's almost like a twisted. view of the rapture. I mean, his ship is called the sanctuary. Yeah, that's wild. I looked at it like that. Yeah. So the interesting part about how that goes to, of course, at the end of that movie, they fight under a dome, right? That's where the final battle is. Yep, with Iron Man or all them. Yeah. Yeah. So they're under this dome. And then you even have the, they ask him, like, so what happens when you do this? Like, what are you going to do? And he says he's going to go rest and look upon it, like, see the sunrise,

on a grateful universe. On the seventh day. Oh my God. Okay. But it's even crazy than that because the next movie starts end game. Yes.

And his daughter, Nebula, says, I know where he's going to be. He's going to be in the garden. Oh my God. The same. Like the garden. The garden. Like is there any garden that would be called

the garden but Eden? The garden, yes. It's like the God character is going to wipe out all of half of humanity. and then he's going to rest in a garden. In the Garden of Eden. Yeah, so then, but what's interesting,

so they, you know, they formulate some kind of kooky time, you know, time travel plot, which I remember when I watched it at the time, I thought, well, that's kind of lame. They couldn't have thought of anything else, like going back in time. But what I found really interesting,

especially if I've done all this other research, is the idea that they were going to do that through the quantum realm. So where today are they, messing around with the quantum realm. CERN. Yes. Yeah.

So they're smashing these particles together. And that's where like the Mandela effect plot comes from is like the idea that that's one of the conspiracies is that when they fire up the large hydron collider at CERN, this is when the funky stuff started happening. And so I think it's interesting because even in that movie, they tried to explain time travel. they try to differentiate what real time travel is compared to like a movie like The Terminator or like Back to the Future. Okay.

Because they were trying to say that like if one of us went back in time and did something, like my consciousness would still be the same. Like so you could have changed everything behind me. But like if everything changed, I would still remember things like I remembered it because I would still be in the present. Right. And I was like that to me is explaining exactly what the Mendel effect feels like is because Like everything around me changed like but I haven't changed but I haven't that's exactly how it feels That's exactly how I feel this week that is exactly how I feel this week because I am like what happened What happened? We were we were all anti-war not a month ago like we were all and it just changed and nobody's like everybody's

And some of that's like, some of that is, is bots and paid for propaganda. Some of that is. But some of it's like some of these people I have followed for years, for years. And we agreed on the same. And all of a sudden they're like, Iran bad. And I'm like, well, since when? This is, that's, you know, it's weird that you brought up the Avengers too, because I always likened this to Dr. Strange.

He's one of my more favorite of characters in the realm of make believe, okay? I like Dr. Strange. And in that end part where Thanos wins and he snaps his fingers, before that happens, like Dr. Strange is going through every single scenario. Do you remember that part? Oh, yeah. And he's like, this is the only scenario. It's like one in a jibillion scenarios that we all don't die from this, you know, or don't get a chance to come back. And that's when Iron Man has to die in order for the rest of them to live or something.

And I always thought that was, that was like Project Looking Glass. Like they can look through all these different scenarios. and find the one that they want to fit the best and then do things in order to make that scenario happen. But then you have to get into the conversation of free will. Because even though, like, God knows everything. He's all knowing, right? He knows everything, but we still got free will.

So we still can go and make our dumb mistakes. And he knows we're going to do it, but it's free will. We have to go do it anyway. So I don't know how that, I just, I don't know. I just feel like everything is, Like we just went backwards. I feel like it's 2019 again, the end of 2019. And I'm back to starting this all over.

I feel it's like 2002 again. Oh, yeah. Well, you've been at this a lot. I was. No, I mean, no, I haven't really been doing this kind of stuff a lot longer, but I'm 47 years old. I'm 42. And I can't, I cannot wrap my mind around this groundhog day of Muslims bad. Yeah.

They're two weeks away from a nuke. we got to stop them again. We got to preemptily attack them to stop a war that we just started. I mean, you know, I mean, I feel like that that part of like, because obviously I'm on X more now. And yeah, I just, I can't take the gaslighting. I mean, it feels like the Hasbro, the propaganda is just being pumped into your brains and they're just gaslighting every day saying, oh, this is what he always said. This is what Trump was always ran on.

You're like, no, he did not. He actually rebuffed these guys like Obama and Joe Biden and Kamala for saying that they're going to get you into war with Iran if they have their way. And now they're full on. You know, I saw a, was a clip from Pete Higset on Sean Ryan's podcast saying he had to go to like rehab because he was a reformed neocon. And he was talking about how dumb it was to think they could go in the Middle East and change it around. and like the hubris to do that. And here he is today saying the exact opposite. And yeah, I mean, I feel like that most these people are just,

they're horrors. They'll say anything for money. You know, I think that's most likely the case is they'll, you know, they're like a whole different, like a whole different consciousness at this point. Like I think that's because that's how I feel, because they say it was such conviction. And I'm like,

now, if we didn't have the internet, this could still work. honestly if we like 9-11 could you imagine if we'd have had x when 9-11 happened these people would have had it debunked in 24 hours they'd have been like since when to does jet fuel melt steel beams right could you imagine how much shit we went through from 9-11 till now without the internet and how much we could have had this figured out so it's always kind of curious to me why they allowed us to have this why didn't we just keep going with what we had do you know what I mean I wonder about that an awful lot. And that goes back to Trump and the time travel stuff.

Like, why are we allowed to have this technology where you and I can come on here and tell all these people that, hey, what you're seeing is bull crap, and here are all the reasons why. And we have video proof of it and posts. Like, nothing on the internet ever goes away. I can prove you wrong quickly. You know, why are we allowed access to debunk them so quickly

and viciously because they are viciously and ferociously. Why do you think they let us think that there's one main reason is because they can easily also indoctrinate people at the same time. Sometimes I try not to be so focused in my own echo chamber to think

that everybody's like us who thinks just like we do because there's so many people that are still asleep that they just they go back to put a Ukraine flag in their bio or then they go to an Israel flag. So it still works on a lot of people. And maybe it works on the people that got the money still, the boomers. Yeah. This is stuff is very convincing to them still. Yeah, they're on Facebook. But yeah, that's been the question

we've been asking recently about that because I was not really fully awake until 2020. You know, I was like I was trying not to be awake like probably like most people. Like when your life is going well, you're like, well, I don't, I don't need to know that they're all worshiping the devil. I had no idea. I don't want to know that. I don't care. I'm just trying to go about my business. I'm trying to make it to the weekend, trying to make it to vacation. So when the world shifts on a dime in 2020, then we're like, oh, well, we need to start paying attention to this. And so once you start paying attention, you're like, the propaganda is actually not very good. They don't seem like they're very good at Psiops because we can point them out right away.

I think part of that could be that it seemed like they were operating on a longer timeline at some point, like they thought they had more time. And it feels like things have accelerated. But when you think about the idea that they want to have some kind of digital currency, they want some surveillance system, they need the internet in place to do a lot of things they want to do. So it's kind of a necessary evil for them. But I think that what they've done to try to a stopgap against this is they're, They flood the system with so much crap.

And as I said, conspiracies get real dumb because then some people think everything is fake. Like nothing is real. And then those kind of people are kind of blackpilled in. They're kind of disillusioning with everything. So, you know, it's kind of like the fine line of trying to like see what's fake and see what the Helgelian dialect is. It's like, here's the problem. We're getting the reaction we want. And then we got the solution picked out.

I think that's kind of like the battle. And I think, truth be told, you know, I believe this is obviously a lot of it's spiritual is the fact that like major conspiracies that could not be coordinated by men who have different interests without some kind of a coordinated evil like in spiritual places, like heavenly places, kind of controlling this. You saw what that commander had sent out to his troops. Did you see that on? Oh, yeah. We talked about on a podcast today.

Yeah. So if you didn't know, I don't know. I'll pull it up in a Macca. So basically a commander had sent out to his troops. troops that Jesus, and he had stated in this, this is the information he was giving them, was that Jesus had chosen Trump for this mission and he was working through Trump or something very similar. Yeah, he was anointed by Jesus to start Armageddon.

And I, like, my hackles went up. Look, and I'm, like, I was raised Roman Catholic. I don't go to church. And I'm still, I'm kind of coming back to my Christianity. I never, I've always been a Christian, but I've never really talked about it. I've never really, I've been a huge prayer. I'm just never, but like since the Israel discussion has come up, and every time they would say stuff that I was like,

and now I don't think that's true. Like my hackles would go up. I just, it didn't sit right with me. And so we jumped back in full, both feet, like both feet. Like, you know, just if nothing else to make Ben Shapiro mad. And, I mean, it really is like a good versus evil type situation where, you know, like who are you aligned with? You know, that's one of the things I like to do.

in my content is to show that one of the very first things I started to point out was like stuff like what I just talked about with the Avengers that these people have a belief. If you have billions of dollars going into this industry, it's used for a reason, like the idea of like Operation Mockingbird. These people have a belief and their belief is shown in their art, you know, the art kind of like their craft. Yeah. So this is the idea of that kind of Kabbalistic magic that they do serve a God. And they might say in God we trust, but they're not talking about the God of the Bible. They're talking about Lucifer. They're talking about bail. They're talking about a different God than we serve. And so that's what I'd like to show people who were kind of skeptical,

kind of a lot of Normies, would be like, you don't have to believe in the devil, but I'm going to show you that these people do. And this is why they do what they do. Right. So if you kind of know that there's a a choice in this. There's the light side and there's the dark side. So, you know, if you believe the Bible, you believe that if you're in Christ, then there is a guaranteed victory.

But if you're outside of him, this place is dark, it's wicked. So I would like to show people that there is, there's two sides to this. And the devil rules the gray area too. Yeah, the fence sitters. I saw a video talk about that too. There was a guy sitting on a fence.

came along and said which side you're going to pick the guy's like i don't know i got to think about it can i think about it and the devil's like yeah i'll come back then the devil comes back a little bit later and he's like okay which side you're going to pick my side or god's side and guys like you know what i still don't know well the devil then grabs him and starts hauling him way and the guy's like what are you doing i didn't pick and the devil's like why i own the fence too so right exactly yeah well it's yeah it's not that you get necessarily pick it's like you pick jesus or you you've already picked against him yeah yeah you haven't chosen him then you chose in the other side right and that that was the moral of the story and i felt like this huge pull to jump back into that you know when

especially when like the the the the talum mode or talmud came out yeah and i'm like what is this and i so i daped over into that watch a bunch of videos watch a bunch of documentaries like these they believe how how am i a christian zionist how i can't align with people who believe this i can't and like this is kind of my core i may not have talked about it a lot it may not have been like the core of my content or you know but I tried to live like Christ I tried to live a good Christian life I don't murder people I probably swear too much but I you know but when I start reading that like it just I'm like that's gross like we're not gonna we got to speak out against this what are we doing and then when you find out you know who brought in all the porn and who brought in

all the demonic stuff that you see in the movies and the music and all and it's like and then the stories start coming out about the traffic and the children and all the dark and you know like how can i not you know how can i not pick this back up like with full and start to educate myself a little bit better the best that i can on it i have to i have to because if i don't like i'm i'm not i can't i'm too absolutely not i'm not that person at all so we jumped off the fence and i i picked my side in a way we went thank God. Yeah, well, it's a, you know, in the Bible it says in Jose is six, four, it talks about how my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. So it's like Jesus told us that he's sending us amongst

the wolves to be as wise as serpent, as serpents and innocent as doves. So I think our enemy here has taken advantage of the fact that a lot of us have grown up in Christian countries. And we, and we're kind of taught to assume the best with people. And look the other way. And we can't, well, it's like if you, you know, when you're young and you haven't been, you haven't been exposed to all kinds of evil, you think the world is a much more innocent place. And I think a lot of us still have grown up in that way thinking, salute the flag, you know,

pray to God. And, you know, like you're just trying to live a happy life and get along with people. now your enemy is taking advantage of your naivity like through that in order to do things in the dark do things that we don't want to know about and i think that's the thing is like we've averted our eyes from things for too long and now we've been exposed to them so it was funny i literally was just talking about this on my podcast the other day was about that i think the one of the biggest siops of all time is the things that happened in the late 1800s that led into what we call like the modern state of Israel.

So you have like the Schofield Bible. And so all of church history kind of teaches this one way about how Israel rebelled. And then what Israel became or true Israel was the believers, was the church. Right. So this is what the historic church taught for a long, long time. And so of course, if you grew up Catholic, that's what they still teach. Yeah. That is what I thought.

Yeah. And I grew up in an evangelical church. And so they've taught us that, no, you have to support the Jews. We have to support Israel because it's the Israel of the Bible. And so you have people like Ted Cruz talking about, if you don't bless Israel, you'll be cursed. Now, obviously, these twisting scriptures, and I think that's exactly what they've done. So the sci-up is the fact that we have looked at the nation. of Israel despite all their flaws and all their wickedness and all their clearly just different

view of how the world should work. And we've said, well, this is somehow going to lead to the return of Jesus. So therefore, I don't know, we wrote them a blank check to do whatever. And and to me, I said, I think it's like the most diabolic. It's, it's not stupid. I mean, I think that's the thing. It's like the devil is, is a very worthy adversary. He's very smart. So it makes sense to take advantage of well-meaning boomers to say, oh, well, we have to support Israel. They're our greatest ally. But like now a lot of us, again, how we started to notice and we started to read what they actually write about Christ in the Talmud. And we're like, how can we support this?

I mean, even it says in Corinthians, it says that we should not be yoked to unbelievers. So if we're supposedly a Christian nation, now it's debatable. we're founded on Christian principles. We were. Then how are we going to yoke ourselves with what the Bible calls spirit of antichrist? So then them trying to use like modern, modern geopolitics and foreign policy dictated on the idea that not only do we got to support them, we have to bring about a third temple. We have to bring about the Battle of Armageddon. I mean, I encourage people that are in the chat and we're watching this.

If you do believe the Bible, read it. You need to read it to know what's in it. You need to read it to know what's not in it. Because Jesus, when he got taken up into the wilderness and was tempted by Satan, Satan is quoting the scriptures to him. But of course, Jesus being the word, he knows how to say, that's actually not what that means. And that's exactly what they're doing.

That's what you have like, what Mike. Michael Huckabee and Ted Cruz trying to quote scripture and then they're twisting it around and they're framing it and then they're trying to omit things to contradict their points. I mean, that's exactly what the devil did. That's a squire that you brought that up. My son, my youngest wanted to watch David. It's a cartoon, but it's the story of Jesus and that that part is in it where he spent all that time in the desert.

And then you hear the devil like saying these scriptures are back. Well, God says this, this, this and this. Why isn't this? make him, you know. And so then I had to go look it up because like I don't remember learning about that in church. I don't remember learning about a lot of this in church. If we're going to be really honest, I got really bad. I watched The Chosen one random night. I just started watching it. My kids were everybody was gone. They went to New Mexico to visit family and I stayed here with the dog. And one random night I just started watching. I got sucked in. And I got sucked in so much

that I would watch it and then I would look at it because I have a Bible. Then I would look it up and I would read through it to try and understand it better. And now I'm all in. Like I'm here for this. And I didn't know, I didn't know Mary had such a big part in everything. I didn't know how sermon a mound. I knew about sermon in the mound, but I didn't know what it was about or how it came to fruition or who I didn't know any of this. And so I'd read through all of it and I'd learned that it was the fair, because I, I'd always learned that it was the Romans that killed Jesus. And they did, but they did at the behesment of the Pharisees. And in fact, the Romans did not want to kill Jesus and pushed back on it several times

because they wanted to keep the peace, you know, because they were like, this is going to cause a lot of disruption. And we don't really want that because they, you know, they got tax money. So they wanted to keep the peace, but the Pharisees kept pushing and pushing and pushing. And finally, they were like, fine. And they did. And there was a bunch of politics. They manipulated something for political gain.

And it was the Pharisees. that killed him. Like, you killed, or the whole reason where Christians is because he died. Okay, and then rose again. But now you're telling me I'm supposed to align with the people who killed him to begin with. That's what, and I got so hung up on that. And that's why I think a lot of people get confused too, because how can Christian Zionism exist? Like Christian, how is that even, you can't? It absolutely can't. If you believe with your whole heart, You can't align with somebody who killed your Messiah. Like, that's probably not going to go well. And still deny him today. And still deny him today. Yeah, they don't even believe in him. The whole reason you're a Christian is because you believe that he died and rose again.

But you don't believe in him. That's why his name is used as a swear word in all the movies. You know, I'm trying not to do that. I think that what people don't even recognize but the Gospels too. And I might be somebody, I believe in something called Satan's Little Suss. season and that kind of ties it back into tartaria. I believe a lot of these things were actually fulfilled back in the times of Jesus. Okay.

But what people don't really often talk about is, so John the Baptist comes before Jesus. Right. And when he encounters the Pharisees, he calls him a brood of vipers, and he said, who warned you about the wrath to come? Yes. So with that mindset, this is one of the first things he says about there's a wrath coming. So when Jesus is there, he's providing a self-referenced. from this wrath that's coming.

Now, historically, and this is the thing that really irritated me when I learned this later, was that they don't really tell us about 70 AD. They don't really tell us about the Romans destroying Jerusalem. So if you actually read the Gospels with that mindset of like, there is an apocalypse coming on Jerusalem. Yes. It's a very imminent thing. So Jesus is trying to save people.

Obviously, he's often eternal life. So it's more than just a salvation from this. but he is saving them from wrath that's actually coming. And so when you see like the dialogue back between Pontch's Pilate and Jesus, like Pontch's pilot is starting to recognize there's something about this guy. Like, you know, his wife says, I don't want to have nothing to do with this man. He came through my dreams. Like this is bad.

You don't want this. So when Pontius Pilate gives the Jews the option to take Barabbas, who was a rebel and a murderer and a thief, take him or take Jesus. I'm going to spare one of them. Pontius Pilate says you can pick. They pick Jesus to be crucified. Pontius Pilots says, I'm washing my hands.

I don't want anything to do with this. And they say, put the blood on us. Put it on our children. So when Jesus is walking up to the cross, there's women wailing and mourning and they're crying. And Jesus looks right at them and says, don't weep for yourselves, or don't weep for me, weep for yourselves, weep for your children. So when Jesus tells the story on the Olivet discourse about the end times, he's telling them of a story

about when the army circle Jerusalem, and they're going to burn it to the ground. He starts off this discourse by saying, you see that temple, there's not going to be one stone left upon another that will not be thrown down. So he tells them at the very end of that, he says, before this generation passes away, all these things will take place. Now, it's really interesting. A lot of people believe he said that in 30 AD. Well, 70 AD is 40 years from then. A biblical generation is 40 years.

You know, you think about like the story of the Exodus, 40 years in the wilderness, those people who did not believe did not enter the promise land and they died. out. So you have 40 years, 40 years later, the destruction of Jerusalem happens. And so it's funny to think about even like modern times, we have people like Bibby Nottingyahu and I'm going to say some other people in like the radical like right wing in Israel. They talk about battling Rome again. And they call Rome, they call Rome America and Europe. So it's like they still have not got over that. But I mean, I think that's the thing. interesting part about that is it through the gospels or through the epistles the romans are getting saved lots of them are becoming christian yeah and then so later god sends the romans to destroy jerusalem

it's not like it's not like the romans just do it without god's providence and sovereignty directing them and i think that's the really interesting part about this is that that it's said that jerusalem was going to be made desolate well that's why they're still trying to rebuild the temple today they haven't sacrifice there for what we're told us 2,000 years. Like God rebuked them and he caused judgment on them because they crucified his son. Right. And so like that's the whole thing. It's like so the idea that Christians should prop them up back in that land when it's God who cast them out is peretical. So where do we go from here then? I just like, because I think that's what we're struggling because a lot of people are trying to figure this out for the because there's,

I've read that, I've read that they're trying to usher in Armageddon so that they can bring in the Antichrist, which is their Messiah is my understanding kind of, I'm still trying to learn all this, but like where do we go from here with other than, I mean, obviously getting back in with your faith.

If you've dropped off your faith or if you're a non-believer, it might be a good time to pick it up and just read through it. I mean, you don't even I because I'm not I'm not going to say I wasn't a believer I do believe in God and I believed in Jesus Christ but I didn't necessarily believe in the story of Jesus Christ I feel like we had been lied about about a lot of things I feel like a lot of portions of the Bible are so missing and all of that still kind of remains true right but I have now that I have like a better understanding of it I'm I'm a full on and you can kind of see all this stuff going on right now I am a

full on believer even though I don't fully understand I'm a full on believer like I have faith I have faith. I'm a little blackpilled in the political spectrum, but I got faith. That's totally understandable. Yeah, I'm a little over the whole voting idea. But where do you think we go from here then? Like what what do you see happening, say, in the next 10 or so years? Not to put you on this story. I mean, it's tough to say. I mean, I believe in something, like I said, I believe in something called Satan's Little Season. So I think the idea that what we're seeing now is them trying to manifest things from the book Revelation, which I believe, already took place. Okay. So they want us to believe that we're at this part of the end of the world. And I think that obviously makes sense. I mean, if you think about the way that this, what I called

was this sciop on the church was to make you believe that whatever happens there is related to Christ's return in the rapture. So, of course, the evangelicals say, I don't care about World War III, because that's actually good for me, because this will lead to me being disappeared and not having to deal with the mess is coming. Okay. But I mean, the idea that we accept that we're at the end of the world, so we accept all kinds of evil and wickedness. When I think that if you believe Christ is king,

then he's given us authority in his name to go out and proclaim the everlasting kingdom here. And I think there's still an ability that we can, you know, I know it's kind of, it sounds a little bit like a, I don't know, just some kind of empty mantra about like, like changing hearts and minds. But I mean, that's really what the gospel is about. It's like that we can't

really win this physically. Like we can't win this monetarily because we know who has the money. Right. We have to win this literally through hearts and minds. And I think that, I mean, I think that's why like podcasts like this are important to be able to just speak the truth. Because you really think about it, like you're saying all the things you learned recently about the agenda of these people and what they believe. Like that's still pretty fresh for most of us. Yeah. I mean, I think most of us are still kind of going back into history and we're saying, okay, so if they lied about 2020, what about 2001? Right. What about 9-11? But then you start to look back as like, what about JFK? What about World War II? And then you start looking into World War II and

you're like, oh my gosh. Did you hear? Have you heard? Listen, listen, this might make some of your guys is Budzpucker. But listen, on Instagram, a bunch of kids who they do their thing, they took Hitler speeches and ran it through an AI program to translate it and to put it back in his... Have you listened to those?

I've watched Europe. I've watched Europe. I've watched those things. And I remember when I watched that, that's what is that probably eight or nine hours, I think? I don't know. I didn't watch that. Have you watched it all through? I would say if you watched that. I didn't care that much.

I'm telling you, like, when you listen to that, and I think the thing that made me most sick about that was, you know, a lot of people like Tucker Carlson are talking about, like, did we win World War II? Yeah. Because the result doesn't seem like we actually won. And so that they all, like the empty thing they always say back is like, hey, you'd be speaking German if we didn't do X, Y, and Z.

It's like, well, okay, so it's a linguistic thing. Like, so that's really the most important part. I mean, the idea that what we had the result of it was that sovereign borders were eroded. And all these places started to become the melting pots that they said it was supposed to be, even though we never signed up for that. And so our culture is just being just decimated. And so it makes sense that you have this ethno state in Israel that rules over us who have to take in all the immigrants and the refugees from the wars they create. Right.

And so again, it's like it's divide and conquer. And I think it is. It's like they could not compete with Rome head to head. But what they decided to do was in this next battle is infiltrate Rome. And that's how they battle us now. It's a war with an enemy within. Yeah, because they got all kinds of little flying monkeys. Like, because it's informational.

I mean, as much as it's spiritual, I feel like, the war that we're in right now is informational too. And their flying monkeys are unbelievable. Like, un freaking believable. I don't even know how to start a bot farm. I wish I could learn and I would start one because then we could do something. I have a lot more views on my videos.

Lord, I have just been drug this last week. Just drug. I had one tweet or a video go absolutely viral. It's like four million views and it was the ball one. Last week we heard ball and we were all excited. Now this week we're like, around bat. I don't understand.

My God. Like, it has been, it's been... You know, it's funny. So you were saying, I made that video, and I was showing him, you know, I made that analogy about, like, if you had a friend that you went out with and you got into a fight every time because of them,

you eventually realize that person's not your friend. And that's what Israel is to us. And as you have Marco Rubio, you have what, Mike Johnson, you have Tom Cotton, all saying exactly, what the truth was, Israel was going to attack Iran. So we had to do it first because if Israel attacked first, Iran was going to bomb our troops. Right. So they say the quiet part out loud.

I mean, they're not even hiding it. So I'm trying to make that video. And every time I tried to make that video, my, I know this might sound conspiratorial, but every time I tried to make the video with my editing software, the features stopped working where it said I was offline. I mean, it literally took me like I was done with the video and I was just putting like the the final touches on it and everything started to kind of crash on it and of course then I upload it and you know I'm not saying like my videos always go viral but I mean I thought like this is pretty time sensitive I've made it today probably to make it and it's way shadow banned. Oh yeah mine on TikTok is too today I in fact you we would talk about conspiracy theories so I've had you we've decided you were going to come on a

couple days ago we could go now and so today was the day I have have to get everything set up and everything crashed this morning. The streamer that we normally use wasn't working and then I couldn't get my ads that I needed to play downloaded so that I could put them together with my intro. I worked for like four hours on this and to the point where I was ready to just call it. I'm like, you know, I don't even know if I want to do this stupid show like because this is so, it's such an, it put me in a bad mood the rest of the day and I'm just, I couldn't get anything to work. None of my apps working. My internet wasn't working. It kept crashing out earlier today. I'm like, the show tonight's going to be a disaster. It's going to be a freaking

disaster if this doesn't all get straightened out. And then literally like an hour before my show started, everything started to line up. And I had to hustle to get everything uploaded the way that it's supposed to. Made sure I send you a new link because it was a different link that you had to come to. Like the whole, it was almost like, and I thought about that this morning. I'm like, what is, it's either God is trying to stop me from doing this show, but that didn't make any a lot of sense because a lot of your content is very pro-god, yay God, you know? So it's either that or it's there's something not God that is... Right, right, right.

It's somebody else's God. Somebody else all up in this room. My buddy was saying the exact same thing. So he was making a video about how the Iron Dome is basically fake. It's not a, it's not actually a real thing. No, it's not. I read about that. Yeah.

So he was making a video about that. And he was saying every time he was trying to make it, his app was glitching out and eventually he just put it up there kind of messed up. Yeah. And it's like, so he doesn't use the same software as I do. That's weird. I mean, I think that's unusual. I mean, but I mean, doesn't it make sense to know who all the technocrats are and what side they're on in this?

You know, it's wild. The only thing I'm not getting hammered on is Facebook, though. Big old Zuck. Good job, Zuckerberg. Facebook isn't unusual. So every now, well, it's funny because I started making videos on TikTok. originally. Yeah, I didn't do. And TikTok was supposedly like the one that the censorship won with China and all this stuff.

And they're really worried about all the things that can go on TikTok. They'll ban you quick on TikTok still. Yeah. And then I went over to eventually when Instagram and Facebook started to open it to Reels, I got away with so much more than I ever got away with on TikTok when I was like, that's sort of weird. It's obviously like the idea that Netanyahu comes out with all these influencers. And he's saying, we need to buy TikTok.

TikTok. And so now TikTok is basically just like a shell of itself. It's, yeah, I don't, I don't do much on TikTok. Like, I make my videos on TikTok because it's easier. But I just started a Facebook page like two months ago because I had another page, but you can't do any medical misinformation on Facebook. I had been kicked off Facebook in 2020, probably three or four times. Instagram. I was put on a blacklist on Instagram. And actually with Instagram, it wasn't until about a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, that I finally started to grow again. And so it's been, the app thing has been a long time coming, like fight with censorship as a whole, just everything.

And TikTok and I don't even, I'll just make a new account. But TikTok used to ban not just your account, but they would ban like your VPN in the beginning. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, a lot of people I know, I mean, I've been banned once there. I had like 220,000 followers over there. I got banned. I have no idea why. I started a new account.

And it's going okay. but I obviously I don't I don't care as much anymore so it's kind of like I'm not I've diversified but so when you come up in like in 2021 posting stuff obviously like talking about vaccines or COVID it's like the third rail like you do that your count is going to get nuked quick yep and so but I think it's now it's kind of an unusual time because I'm not sure what we can say and what we can't say so I'm on YouTube and I make a pay Patreon cut that's uncensored because I'm not sure what I can get away with on YouTube. But then I go watch like Candace Owens or Joe Rogan.

And if I knew I could say everything that's said on their podcast, then I wouldn't have to ever have to worry about making an uncensored version. It would just be the podcast. It makes you question like where they are and where they sit in the dynamic of all of this. Because Candice Owens and even like Tucker Carlson, because he would come out like against the COVID stuff. And I'm like, why can Tucker say it on YouTube? But I can't.

I remember Russell Brain back. He was really hard against it. So it kind of makes you wonder, like, do you actually have a seat at the table? And you just are saying these things. I'm not saying that that's what's going on. But it does make you wonder. Like, because if nobody's can't talk about it, but Candace Owens millions and billions of followers can, like, why is that? And I don't know that we'll ever know.

I figured a lot of that. It's probably a situation where if they completely censored all of it, even like the big accounts, then it would really be like all the conspiracy theories. It would be confirmation that they were all correct. It'd be like martering. You can allow like a soft disclosure because nobody's going as hard as probably just a regular person would go because we don't have anything to lose. So they're probably playing a little more safe. And they probably, they probably know where the guard rails are. Yeah.

And that could be it too. And we don't know. They don't tell. TikTok won't tell you at all. Oh, no, no. They'll ban you. You'll never get to answer while you're banned. Yeah,

I don't even, I have my TikTok, it's on its way out though. I lost six appeals last week. I'm like, are you can't even, I'm at a hundred and something. It'll be like my 40th account because I just,

I just keep making them because that's just, it's easier for me to create videos on TikTok. Like I understand the software better. I tried on Instagram. It was too janky. So maybe it's gotten better since I've tried, but. She's cap cut and then she posts them everywhere.

I should do that. I should do that. I just, I don't know. I think we're over our hour. I was only going to keep you an hour, but I think you're pretty spot on with a lot of this. About everything that's kind of going on. I think you are 100% right that this is spiritual. So if you could leave everybody with something, let's say your entire social media was new, everything that you ever said, completely wiped off the planet.

And you had your last message to give to everybody can be done the next 30 seconds. What would you tell people? How would tell people, again, this is a spiritual battle. And if you believe in Jesus, like, the victory is guaranteed. So I think that with all the turmoil in the world, they want us to be blackpilled. And I don't say that black pill, like you said, like with politics, I mean, there are certain things that we should put no faith into. Right. Like, because it really is.

It's like that the goddess promise of certain. things and certain things are not promised. So like you want to find out what God has promised you and cling to that. Because if you do believe then there's more than this, well, then they don't win in the end. All these people who seem like they're winning right now, they don't win. Like Jesus. That's a nice thought to think about. And so if we're in Christ, then we win by being with him. So I think that that's like that's the message I really want to leave people with because I like to be able to laugh about some of the things. And you know, I like the gallows humor sometimes. I mean, it's, it sort of is funny just how goofy everything is.

But, I mean, if you don't believe, if you don't have a hope in something, well, it's really hard to laugh at this stuff. So I believe I am upbeat about things for the most part. I mean, as we all do, we get a righteous anger for the things that are happening. But yeah, we shouldn't lose hope. I mean, Jesus said in this world, we'd have tribulation, but be of good cheer because he's overcome the world. So I would just encourage people in a world full of lies. You do have to find what's true. There is truth.

Because if there is no truth, then there is no lies. So there is truth, then I believe that's Jesus. That's nice. Good job. I like that. Do you guys like that? Absolutely. Make sure you guys go follow JT on all the platforms.

His LinkedIn is linked in the description of this live on Rumble. And what is your ex handle? It's just JT follows J.C. If you find, basically if you look up JT follows JCP, you can find me pretty much everywhere. But yeah, if you look up on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all the audio podcast, TikTok, YouTube or TikTok, Instagram. I go by Joe Telford on Facebook, as I told you.

I didn't necessarily plan on giving my public name out, but it just so happened, but you can find me on there. So if you like long stuff, check out YouTube and the audio. If you like short, punchy stuff, check out the socials. Perfect. Exactly. So, yeah, make sure you guys go follow JT everywhere. And I love your faces.

JT. thank you so much for coming on. You guys have a great rest of your night. Keep removing. Take it easy. Tell your mom I says hi and watch out for deer. Bye, guys. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. And don't forget to hit the thumbs up on this video. And a special thank you to all of our advertising partners. Please remember to shift your dollars to support those businesses that support Badlands Media.