Bandsplain - 100th Episode! Mailbag with Rob Harvilla feat. Producer Dylan

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

We celebrate our 100th episode with special guests - our beloved listeners. America’s favorite podcaster and Bandsplain father figure Rob Harvilla joins us for a mailbag episode to answer your burning questions, and occasionally dole out unsolicited advice. Plus, a VERY special guest joins us at the top of the episode for a proper walk down memory lane. Thank you for listening to Bandsplain. Host: Yasi Salek Guest: Rob Harvilla, Dylan Rupert Producer: Jesse Miller-Gordon Audio Editor: Adrian Bridges Additional Production Supervision: Justin Sayles Theme Song: Bethany Cosentino Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Guess what, you guys? Bandsplain and 60 songs that explain the 90s are teaming up for a live show. That's right. Robert Harvilla, Bobby Harvilles, also Christopher Ryan and myself will be potting in person. It is your paris social dream come true. Thursday, November 16th at the Terrogram Ballroom in Los Angeles, California. For a link to purchase your tickets, look in the show notes of this episode. See you there, babe. What's with this band anyway? I don't get it. Can you please explain? Wait, like Bansplain? Hello and welcome to the 100th episode of Bandsplain.

Can you guys believe it? 100 episodes. 100. My life is here in these 100 episodes. Usually, this is a show where I invite an expert guest on to help me explain a cult band or iconic artists. but today it is a show where I celebrate my achievements by answering your listener mailback questions. God help me with the help of my friend dad, Robert Harvilla, host of the beloved 60 songs that explain the 90s podcast. Before we get into it, I just need to have a quick earnest goes-to-camp moment, babe,

and just give you guys a heartfelt thank you for listening to any amount, you know, be it 10 minutes or 5 million. hours of Bansplain. This podcast means a lot to me. Making it means a lot to me. And the fact that anyone cares or likes it means a lot to me. So thank you for listening to any of these hundred episodes. And also, I just wanted to give a quick shout out to Michael Hardman, our original editor, who really was instrumental in shaping and architecting. what is Bandsblane now. We love you, Michael. And another person who was instrumental to the insanity and the mental illness that we have woven into a podcast. I couldn't celebrate 100 episodes without having a quick chat with her. So I had to invite producer and Meredithus

Dylan on for just a quick check-in and some meandering and wayward ruminations. on Bansland Past. So before we get into the mailback questions, here's a quick chat with your friend, producer Dylan. Producer Emeritus Dylan. Hey. Welcome back. Welcome back to Bandsplan.

Thank you so much for having me back to the screen. How does it feel to be in the Riverside once again? It feels like a fever dream. Producer Emeritus Dillon, I simply could not, in good conscience, have a hundred 100th episode of Bandsplain in celebration without the voice of producer Dylan. The voice of reason. So true.

I keep thinking about how that meme that you sent me a long time ago, where it's a diagram of the man, there's a little snail inside of the brain. And like, you're still there. Literally still, I record episodes. You're nowhere to be seen. But the snail inside my head, I'm like, oh, producer Dylan would say this right now. Pridigal would think this was funny. It's disgusting.

Actually, I'm deeply regretting this already. We only made it 60 seconds in before I wish we hadn't. Well, I just wanted to bring you on so we could do some reminiscing of bandsplanes gone past 100 episodes, babe. Can you believe? Seems like a bad idea. Let me ask you a sincere question, and it's totally okay if the answer is absolutely the fuck not. Do you ever listen now that you're free of this place? Or does it give you too much PTSD?

Like, is it like, I don't want to hear that woman's voice ever again? I've listened to 24-hour question people. Mm-hmm. 24-question party people, yeah. Yes. That's a good, more manageable amount of that woman's voice. It's more manageable. Yeah.

Yeah. What people need to know is that I listen to every episode of Bansplaine twice before it went out into the world. And the first one. Technically three times because you also listen to it while it was being recording. Exactly. And then the one in the middle, usually my rule of thumb was however long the recording was it takes double that to go through and comment and leave clips and stuff. So I have. I have had full bandsplain immersion and I'm in recovery.

Honestly, same, except I'm not able to leave. Do you think there's people out there who have listened to somehow more hours of bandsplain than you? I think there might be. I actually thought about this because at this point, it's been like a year. So it's like maybe people that have listened to every single episode because it's been what, two years, two and a half?

About two and a half, yeah. What the fuck? I know. Can you believe it? But also there's people who listen to the episodes multiple times

by will, like, of their own volition. Did you know this? She's just... I'm speechless. Literally mouth agape, like hang dog mouth, just slack-jawed

staring at me as if... That's a lot of podcasts. you guys. I assume they're like long-haul truck drivers. I don't know where people find. Long-haul spreadsheet filler-outers. Yeah, like myself.

Well, what are your fondest memories? Hmm. You know, our live event was such a fond memory. That was a great time. With Eve 6 guy. Great time. Fountains of Wayne episode. That was nice.

There were some moments I really felt like we sort of co-transcended. to the high vibrational manic place that I think for mental health is a red flag, but for podcasting was great. Totally. I hear what you're saying. It's like when an actor goes full method for the entire production of a film, like Jim Carrey style for Man on the Moon, Andy Kaufman. What people don't realize is that we were in the beginning making,

making multiple shows at the same time. Yeah. And that was challenging. That was, how do you say, fucked up? It's a literal miracle that we made it through. It's crazy. I don't even know how we did it.

Yeah. I remember at the time saying, I don't know how I'm doing this. And then I look back and I still don't have the answer. I was a ghoul. I was like a sickly ghoul like curled over the computer. I would be like doing like household chores while listening to my own voice to like double up on time. Yeah.

I'd like put something in the oven and then I'd be like like hand up a chicken carcass or putting the butter under its skinny. Like, oh, like listening to it at the same time. Like I got around and pause and cut that. Right. Because otherwise the chicken was not going to get cooked. I'm saying. I know what you're saying. I'm so deeply aware of what you're saying.

We've all gotten to a healthier place. You. Oh, that's debatable. Not. Well, at the very least, you're not here. the healthier place being no longer. I have gone to another place. Under my thumb.

Yeah, okay, well, you have some time to help that up. Mia, I don't listen anymore because what is on that recording is none of my business. That's between the listener and God. I've done my part. Yeah. I tip my hat, Malady, and I excuse myself. Producer Jesse does listen. I don't know that he listens through.

times, maybe twice. His mental health seems pretty solid. That's good. Yeah. We're doing okay. This has turned into like a bleak assessment of like, it's been like a bleak mental health pulse check. I know.

Like, should we, this is actually not, this is actually not to get you on the episode. This was to like do a wellness check on you. And now we've gotten to the part where are you well? You know, I'm not joking about this up until I got that fancy facial yesterday. I was not well. Transformative healing. People make fun of me that I talk about these things. This is a spiritual experience.

I thought like lymphatic massage was just like one of those things like crystals or whatever. I think that got whatever COVID or whatever bullshit was in my system the last two weeks. I was making me feel insane out of my system. Okay. let me give you a piece of advice. You need to get yourself a dry brush. Take that bad boy. Like you're a horse or a cow.

Exactly. Every day, you fiercely brush towards your heart, okay, in the stable. And that does... You take yourself out to the stable. Take yourself out of the stable. You put yourself down.

No, and it will drain your lymphatic system. I still don't even know what that is. And that also, I'm cool with that being none of my... business as well, but... Babe, I don't know any of the things. Like, if you ask me to explain one level further of what I'm telling you, it's not possible. But it doesn't mean it's real. Would I have to be a fucking scientist to just believe shit?

Oh, I feel like it's like you, it's like the membrane of the cell. You know everything about the membrane, but then whatever is the thing on the inside of the cell, the nucleus or whatever, none of your business. You know what I'm saying? You have a breadth of knowledge, but you don't need to go any further. This entire brain is taken up by facts about Billy Corgan, and unfortunately there's no room for science. Yeah, I can't understand that. I'm a girl. Exactly. I can't be expected to understand things like doctor stuff, body functions. No, I just, I brush, brush me, p. And everything seems to go well. And I don't get a galop, I eat hay.

Yeah, pretty much. Athletic greens for me, but, you know, basically the same thing. back to the band's plain the reason that you're here what was your favorite episode of the hundred that we've done i feel like the most fun one was probably well i mean like red hot chili peppers i don't even know if that was like fun but it was like the most uh psychically immersive that one or lemon heads was probably the most psychically immersive i feel like the lemon heads one was the most fun because of our love of Dando

at all. And no ambition, just vibes. Yeah, that's fun. A whole I was about say cottage industry. Yossi made one zazzled one mug. He did. So it's fun to cottage industry. Cottage industry

of the mind. A cottage industry of the mind. An approach to, a beautiful approach to life. Producer Jesse says that that is, that feels pre-bonge, which is important to the evolution of the etymology of mansplain. That's like on a biblical scale, No Ambition just vibes is Old Testament and Bond is so real.

That's so real. Actually, Bonch could never exist because Bonch is really an offshoot of the No Ambition Just Vives lifestyle. Yeah, it's Bonch is no ambition just vibes goes international. Bonch is like Christian science. No, I don't know. I take it back. another one of those things that I don't really understand what it is.

You don't know about it. That one, that is big. Don't worry about it, sweetie vibes. I don't want you to know about Christian science the more I think about it. No, I think I'm good. Please, no one tell y'all's in details about Christian science. I know, it's true. I'm like, I am always teetering on the edge.

I'm like, I'm like quirkyly charmingly into like weird esoteric shit, but like literally teetering on the edge of joining a cult at like any given moment. We can't let her know how what's going. going on in the Christian science community. Yeah, red-hulli peppers was a really good time. I have a tattoo now of the logo and also, I didn't tell you this, but at least once a week to cheer myself up, I watched that video of you dressed as Rick Rubin dancing to Can't Stop Addicted to the Shindon.

I am the Rick Rubin of Music Podcast. Yeah. Still. Where it's like unclear what you do. Yeah. Limited to no technical ability. But still, a jeanée ce qua. You bring a Genesee qua to the final product that really can't be quantified or qualified, honestly.

Yeah, you can't be affied in really any. What was the most harrowing? No, why are you asking me this? Why are you asking this? It was the worst experience. We're doing therapy now. We're going to heal this. What was the most painful and traumatic experience that you had?

I mean, it was primis. Do you want to explain why? Well, it's like I feel it in my body, how I feel. Your body has absolutely kept the score of the baseline of Primus. Kept the score. I'm here. I'm at a little family getaway with my dad and his partner, and I'm sitting on the floor listening to the worst music I've ever heard in my life against my will.

I mean, most things that you do as a job are against your will. there. You were paid for this. You were compensated for your difficult work. I hear you. Yeah, that one was a, I did feel for you during that time. I thought we were going to lose you. I thought that was really, on a, like, on a mental, spiritual, emotional level, it was like the, like, the, like you flatlined. Wait, I'm like, you watch a lot of Grace Anatomy. that's that called again. Okay.

Well, I'm sorry to bring you back to the dark place. That's okay. I hold my wounds in a safe place. I can grow past them. How many times has someone on a dating app messaged you and said, wait, are you producer Dylan from Vansplaine? It just happened. I was like, you don't send me the screenshots anymore.

I don't get to. The last one. The last one was like, when was that? I'm not on them anymore. That was in the last like half of a year. What do you think they hope to accomplish with this type of message? Probably, like, capture me like a feral cat and, like, keep me in a cage and, like, feed me from a bottle. I don't know.

That sounds nice, honestly. What's in the bottle? Raw milk? I'm down. I don't know. Oh, God. I'm so tired of having agency. It's so overrated.

It's settled just for a nice snack at this point. Yeah, just like a nice, warm bottle of raw milk. as administered by my caretaker. Someone asked you, like, out and you're like, do you want a nightcap and you just got like a glass of warm milk? Yes, I actually do do that at home. So, well, producer Dylan, do you have any other fond memories you'd like to share about the centennial here on this celebration of the centennial? I was just thinking about when we went to red hot chili peppers in San Diego. Yes.

I don't know how much I can say. We did a bunch of mushrooms. Okay, we did a bunch of mushrooms. And then there was like, how do I explain? A disembodied jack in the box head on top of a construction crane? Yeah, it's really inexplicable. It's like that there should be a theory about this that like whenever you do psychedelics, extra weird shit is drawn to you.

That would be weird even if you were sober. but because you're on psychedelics is transcendently weird and this was one of those things where like we just looked up and there was just the head of Jack floating floating high above this in the sky

I think I was like speechless and then Yossi was like she was like new false idol just dropped and then I think it was the most hyper I've ever been

outside of middle school for like the next three hours. Because we just like kept looking up at it and it was just there gazing down upon us with its like dead dot eyes and its little jaunty pointy hat.

I remember when Casey got scammed by the street rapper. Yes. Yeah. He emerged with like $40 worth of burned CDs. Yeah. 80. Oh, 80. Oh, Casey. Also used to work on the bandsling team. It's a lean group now. Well, that's a good memory. Not particularly about the podcast, but... It was by and for the podcast.

Sure. Sure. Sure. I got COVID from that concert. I'm pretty positive. It's not possible that I did because I had it the next day, which I think didn't they say that it doesn't happen that fast. But it did feel that it happened from that. There's just no other explanation. Yeah. What are, like, actual podcast memories? It's all, it's all blurred together. It really is all blurred together.

It really is all blurred together. Or the score of your body. Do you have any fun memories of me? I mean, I already said, Rick Rubin dancing to ding, dang, dang, dong, ding, ding, ding. Yes. Just like, I will be honest. I, and every relationship is new. And me and producer Jesse have something special that's just totally different.

But I do miss being yelled at all the time by you in the chat. I'm good at yelling. I really knew that I had like done something when you would be like, Yossi, no. I really felt like I got some more. I really felt like I got like, I'm like, okay, I'm doing my job properly if Dylan is like horrified and upset in the chat. Yeah, that checks out. The blessing is that all of the comments that you left in the Google Docs are still there for posterity.

Oh, yeah. So when I finally publish just the manifesto, which is literally just unedited the Google Docs. Oh, my God. Can you imagine? I literally need to leave in my will that, like, when I die, those need to be burned. However, you digitally burn something. Like they need to be desiccated and removed from the face of the earth. And no one shall slay eyes on them because they're, people are like, why don't you share

them? I'm like, because they're so unhinged. Like, nobody can see these. There's no, yeah. I don't even know what to compare it to. But no one needs to know the process. It ruined it, you know? Like, you don't want to know.

It's like, have you ever seen the video of how chicken McNuggets are made? You don't want to know that. You don't want to know. You don't want to know. But you don't want to eat beautiful chicken nuggets for four to five hours. hours every week. For four to five hours, totally. Do you want to know how the lymphatic

drainage system works? No. But you're going to get yourself one of those horse brushes. Yes. Brush up towards the heart. Call it a day. Well, producer, I'm married still, and it's been a real pleasure to talk to you. I thought I would get more out of you, to be honest, but perhaps that's too soon. It has been a year. I don't know if you're, you're regularly attending therapy to talk about me still, but...

I'm regularly attending nothing. Yeah, I think that people need to understand she was already like this. This wasn't my doing. I didn't break Dylan. Dylan arrived like this. I arose. I roved. Exactly.

She arose like one of those haunted oimista dolls. Yeah. floated into the screen. If anything, I helped heal her with Primus. Yeah. I built up a resilience and a tolerance in you that will help you in the future. Yeah. One of my favorite memories because I drove past it the other day is there is a store that's like maybe, I don't even know, like, an hour, 45 minutes east of L.A.

off of like the 60 or the 10 or something called Crazy Boss. Oh, yeah. And one day, I feel like Dylan just took a picture of it. And I don't even think you sent to me. I think you posted it on Instagram and, like, tagged me and you were like, this is where Yossi works or something. No, I said this is the factory where you were made. Wait, let's see what is crazy boss?

At the very least, you'll never have another boss like me again. Oh, so there's Crazy Boss in San Bernardino and then. It's a big discount center. It's a discount store. where they sell discounted versions of me on sale. Well, producer Dylan, I have to thank you for all of your incredibly hard work and your, you know. Totally. No, like how instrumental you were in shaping the tone and vibe and ever-expanding length of bands play.

truly we couldn't have done it without you. You're welcome. Thanks for the job. And all the memories. So long. Thanks for all the memories. Thanks for the trauma that's stored in my shoulders and my hamstrings. All right, producer, I'm thanks for joining us. I wish you, I wish you well in all future endeavors that happened today and here on out. Hey, congrats on. years of band playing. It does feel like 100 years. I've aged immeasurably. Internally, externally, I'm aging backwards.

So I wonder if it's like that thing where it's like, if you lay down all the episodes of bands playing together, how many times would we- To cover the earth? How many times you could drive back and forth across the country? So many, probably. There should be like a song, like a rent song. 500, 25,600 minutes.

situation. Five hundred, twenty-five thousand six hundred minutes. It does feel like we've reached the end of this segment now. Yeah, I'm roughing too hard. Yeah. Riffing away. Riffing. Just quietly fade you out and you riff, riff on down.

On my little. Riffing into the grave. Producer Dylan, catch you on the flip side bit. Bye. Bange. Bange. Bobby Harvilles, Rob Harvilla, Robert Harvilla. Oof.

Robbie. Yeah. Welcome to the program. We started this 100th episode out with producer Dylan. We brought back producer Emeritus Dylan for the 100th episode because it seemed, it seemed necessary to have a quick catch up with her and get her thoughts and feelings about the 100th episode. hundred episodes. I'm sorry, I missed that. How's she doing?

Is she well? During the recording, she was pretty unwell, and it's very funny because I think she was, I think she had unknown COVID, and so she makes absolutely borderline no sense. And it's really great, I think, for the spirit of the 100th episode of Bansplain, a show where we like to not make sense. Sure. I guess it is thematically resonant. Is she okay now?

Does she feel better? She's okay now. She's doing great. That's good. But I'm so happy and pleased to have you here to share in the celebration of the centennial episode of Bandsplain. How are you feeling? Do you feel a sense of accomplishment? I feel really tired. Hmm. But yeah.

Okay. That is that is one byproduct of a hundredth episode. That's valid. That's a valid feeling. My eyes are celebrating. My eyes are smiling. Okay. All right. And I'm ready to do what I most enjoy doing to celebrate, which is answering the questions of the listeners. Yes. I was like, how can I treat myself for this great accomplishment? What if I once again welcome the thoughts and feelings of the listeners? And here we are.

Here we are. Should we get started? There's a lot of them this time. There are a lot of them. But the first question is from me. Oh, wow. That's right. I was listening to prepare for this today, Yassie.

I listened to what I believe to be Bansplain 1, the first episode ever. I prepared. I always prepare. I take this very seriously. And so I listened to the Steely Dan episode of Bansplaine with your friend and mine, Alex Papademus. Shout out Alex Papademus, the Alex Baldwin of this program. he'll be thrilled to hear you say that. And the premise, the stated premise of that episode and of the show initially is that the guest comes on and explains the band to you.

You were like, I don't know Steely Dan at all. And then he would play you songs, be like, oh, I've heard that at CVS, right? Yes. Like it's the, the premise of the show was that the guest explains the band to you. Yes. And now, of course, the premise of the show is that you compile a 400-page Google. Google Doc, and you tell your guest, you know, that Joe Strummer got a B-plus in maths, you know, in second grade or whatever.

Yes, I procure his report cards through my various channels. You've got methods. Yeah. Reporting. Investigative know-how. I was wondering if there was a conscious point at which the show shifted from, you know, the guest, you don't know the artist in question and the guest. is explaining the artist to you, too.

You prepare so much for every episode. And it's more you explaining the band to the guest now. That transition interests me. This is such a good question. And I really feel like in the movie, it would be like, you might be wondering how I ended up here. Do you know what I mean? Like one of those.

I do. I do. Because to be really honest with you, I honestly have no idea. With love and respect to the guests that came on, I think the majority of them were not fully prepared to be experts on the level that maybe I was hoping. I'm not a group project person, and it's pretty insane to me that I even came up with a premise that involved me just sitting back and letting, I don't even like to be in a car when someone else is driving. Unless it's a romantic situation, and the man should always drive. I do like that.

But otherwise, it's like a road trip. I prefer to drive the whole time. Okay. So I don't really know what happened there. And I don't know which one's better. I mean, you listened. Was it better before? Did I ruin it?

I don't think it's... Along with my own life. There, of course, is the legendary first appearance of me on this show, which was the episode on the dream. I think, objectively, one of the greatest, podcasts in the history of the medium. But it's very clear that you don't. It's reflected in the number of streams as well. Yeah, exactly.

Yes. It's like the velvet underground of podcast, right? Like nobody's really heard it. But everyone who listened to that episode started their own pot. You don't care about the dream in that episode. You don't care about fish in the fish episode. The fish episode is very funny to me. Rob Mitchum is a rad dude.

But he's like explaining. He's like, oh, they play like a vacuum cleaner. or so, and you're like, ugh, it's like he's like he's a plumber who's explaining why your toilet is broken and it's going to cost $10,000 to fix it. Like, it's just, it's a very funny dynamic. It does feel like Rob was not, he didn't believe it himself. You know what I mean? I think if he had had a little more, a little more intensity and conviction of his feelings,

maybe I wouldn't have been able to react that way. But it was like, you know how a dog. can smell fear on you. Like, it's not, it's not giving 100% that you believe what you're saying. Like, he was like, I know this is horrible, but just listen, just hear me out. In his defense, I would say that as a listener myself, that was way more like, you're just not into fish. The contrast between like the Smiths, right?

Like, you know, you love the Smiths. You know, you did a massive amount of research on the Smiths. You come into the episode already knowing everything about the Smiths versus that's not necessarily true. Right. You know, of fish, of the dream of Steely Dan. I just, that's it, that's been an interesting arc to me. Like you started out as the person being explained to and you have become yourself the explainer. It's true.

Much like the karate kid. Mm-hmm. Doesn't that happen the karate kid? Yeah, the student has become the master. Probably it does. Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while. I don't know, Rob.

I don't know what happened. As you know, as you know by knowing me, there's absolutely no planning or foresight or no thoughts, just vibes. It's really, I'm flying by the seat of my pants here. And it's by the grace of God's God's hand, have we ended up here? And it is what it is now. The 100th episode, yes. All right.

Yeah. Okay. I know people seem to think that I hate this. this job, but I actually love this job more than anything. It's just that complaining is my love language. So it's just how I get through things, but I do, this is the best job in the world. I just need everyone to understand that. Thank you for clarifying.

It doesn't mean that I'm not tired. No, of course, but complaining about the job is a key component of the job. I understand. That makes absolute sense. All right. That was my question. Well, great question. I'm sorry.

I couldn't give you any sort of straight answer. That's all right. That suffices. No, no planning just vibes is a perfectly viable answer to that question. I hope our boss, Sean Fennessey, is not listening to this. He's like, could you do a little planning? We do pay you money to do this show. It's fine. He gets you. All right. I am sitting here with a giant document of questions from your loyal listeners. Here we go. You ready? Be excited? Yes. Kevin has two questions. Question one, what is your all-time save it? from a fire band t-shirt.

This is such a hard question, Kevin. I do have so many beloved t-shirt children. And as I've often talked about how much of my net worth is tied up in these t-shirts. It's not exactly liquid. Yeah, I get you. What do they call it when an asset deteriorates over time? I think that, yeah, it's just... I should know this.

You're not going to retire. masters in business administration. You did go to business school. That's right. That's right. I did not. And so I can't answer that question. I think right now mine, it's probably my Dinosaur Jr. shirt. It's like the green mind t-shirt with the Joseph Zobbo photo. I'm talking about. Yes, I do. Yes. My friend Albertina got this for me for my birthday from like a very like secret weird lady who sells old things for what was obviously an insane deal. because it seems to be an original, and those ones are like multiple hundreds of dollars. But I love it. It just fits me like a glove. And I love both that album and that photo. So that's my current Save It from a Fire band t-shirt, Kevin. Okay.

Kevin's second question, what's a song that reduces you to tears or gives you chills no matter how many times you've heard it? Wait, Rob, you don't have a favorite band t-shirt? Is this because all your t-shirts are Ohio? T-shirts? They are, I am as you speak, as I speak, as I speak, wearing an Ohio T-shirt. I do have probably half a dozen to a dozen Ohio T-shirts. I don't have a lot of band T-shirts right now. Kind of surprising, honestly. I don't have any that, that are from concerts I've attended. Like, all of those are gone at this point. Like, are you, do you have, like, T-shirts from shows, or is this all, like, things you've bought from witches on the internet?

It's a mix, but I still do have a lot of the ones from shows from when I was younger. Okay, yeah. Part of the issue there is I wouldn't fit in those anymore. So that's, you know, it would just depress me to have those just sitting around. I'm thin. Moldering. Yeah. So what's the song that reduces you to tears? Well, I want to say something cool here, but I think I'd probably be lying.

The true answer is number 41 by Dave Matthews band. I always find extremely moving. I don't always cry, but I always find very moving. One song that always makes me cry that might be surprising to people is the best day by Taylor Swift off the fearless record. I don't know if you're familiar with that one. Is that a deep cut? I can't immediately conjure that one. It's about her parents.

It's just this like really sincere, meaningful song about how much her parents loved her. And I don't know what's wrong with me, but every time it just, I get choked up when I listen to it. That's cool. That's, that's very sweet. Also, sometimes, ho-hey by the luminaires. Is that a fact? I said what I said. You did.

You just said it. Tell me about that. I think it's because during a year of the dark night of my life, like, where I was basically in the night of the soul that lasted a year of my life, like, where I was basically in the darkest and lowest point in my life, I listened to that song a lot. And so I think it's just tied to that feeling for me always. Okay. Do you listen to it now and think I survived that period or does the song sort of thrust you back into that period? I think it a little bit thrusts me back into that.

It's just the feeling of the period. No, no, I get you. I get you. Yeah. I did listen to a song I explored about that song and I learned that they did record the stomping. It's real stomping. They were all in a barn. We used to call that music barncore. It would really bum me out if the stomping on that song was like a drum machine or whatever. Like that would really ruin. No, it needs to be real red wing boots or whatever and a real washboard. Well, there you go. Those are three excellent answers.

Olivia has a question. Olivia's question is, what is your favorite recipe to cook? I love your cooking Instagram stories. I agree with Olivia. It's very soothing content. You're cooking. What she said was Yossi and Rob, I guess. But you didn't read that part.

I did omit myself from the question because my inclusion seemed to be like, I guess. Like if Rob's, you know, I think that you're the important person being asked here, obviously. And so I, yeah. Well, Olivia, thank you for loving my cooking Instagram stories. I love to experiment with different. forms of content. Lately, you know what? I've really been into two things. One, and I talked to Paul Banks of Intraple about this, 24-question party people. I finally learned the best way to make a piece of salmon thanks to Gordon Ramsey, my friend Gordon Ramsey. And I've been really enjoying

making that. I eat salmon like four times a week, like a bear. So I make that a lot. And then I also made a rack of lamb for the first time. Wow. Did you have like five other people or did you consume a rack of lamb? It's not that big. No. Okay. How big do you think lambs are, Rob?

I'm just wondering in your mind how big a lamb is. Here in Ohio, they're quite large. It's not rack of bison. They're like economy car sized. Okay. That's right. I guess the rack implies to me a lot. largeness, you know, but I may be a mistake.

Is that a Gordon Ramsey recipe? I know. I often use the New York Times cooking app. Yeah, he's the yeller. He's an angry man. But he's a very good cook. He's a very good chef. And I trust him implicitly.

The rack of lamb recipe I got from New York Times cooking. And I also had to watch a YouTube of an Australian butcher explaining to me how to remove some of the extraneous fat, which did take me a long time. But I felt really accomplished by doing it. it. Did you Instagram that? I don't recall that, but I may have just missed it. I think I might have

simply Instagrammed the raw rack of lamb and a pile of fat that I had removed. I'm in my pioneer woman era. So you are. It's a very, it's a very brutish little house on the prairie type vibe. That's right. So yeah. Lately those have been my favorite things to make. I have to get my 135 grams of protein per day. So it's a lot of protein cooking around this, that household. Is that a large, is that an unnaturally large amount of protein? I couldn't say for certain. What is like, if somebody weren't thinking about the amount of protein they consumed,

how much is a daily, a logical daily amount of protein? I think that's quite a bit. It's quite like, for example, like, I think a piece of salmon that's like a normal size is probably like between 25 and 30 grams. so but then like an egg is like six salmon today yeah okay this is hotly contested and you know some people say you don't need that much but I listen to my my king Andrew Huberman Dr. Andrew Huberman if you will put some respect on his name he did go to school for a lot of years to get that that degree and he says that and I'll basically just do whatever he says.

Dr. Andrew Huberman do you like guitar rock music? It sounds like he does. Are you training for something? Are you, is there like a goal event? Yeah, to be hot. I'm training to be hot. That you, that all this protein.

Yes. It's a never ending. The greatest challenge of all. Constantly moving goalposts of being hot. That's right. I guess so. Yeah. If it takes 150 grams of protein.

135. First of all, it's one gram per pound of weight. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Sorry. Sorry.

We already know, Rob, that you're not getting a lot. enough protein. I already know it. I know it with every bone in my body, every rack of my ribs. I'm probably not. Yes. I just just just just I just give off the vibe of insufficient protein. I'm aware. I know this about myself. Okay. Alexa asks, what is the song you would use for the opening credits of the many series about your life? Subsequently, what is the song that plays you out as you leave the room and the one that ends the episode? Rob, you're not even reading all the best parts of these. You're not reading the part where she said, hello, my parisocial parents.

I love having both of you on the same episode to laugh along with and say things like, ha, that's so yossi. Or ha, there goes Rob again under my weighted blanket. Mental burnouts are a sleigh. I think you're way better at reading these questions than I am. But okay, I was, I was jumping to the question, but I,

that's, that's, that's my mistake. Both of your shows have brought me lots of joy in the last couple of months. So thanks to you both. That's very nice of you to say, Lysa, she calls us also her parisocial parents.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's very nice. I found this question very difficult. Did you think about it also? I'm always thinking about it. This is always. I guess like,

I'd have to like know what the tone of this mini series is. I'd have to know like what's the ending babe? Because like is it is it a comedy of errors? Well, I suppose it if it was realistic it would be or is it perhaps has more gravitas and there's like a really profound arc in which I overcome some sort of difficulty to have my hero's journey. I guess I just, I don't know. know what it would be like what would it be the benny hill theme song what do you want what do you prefer

i would assume that this was an ai goof that what if it was fuel's shimmer and the whole miniseries is about me i would absolutely believe that me tracking the history of just you eating salmon and listening to fuel yes it's more of an avant-garde sort of mini-series i would watch that i would watch that. I don't know. Maybe YouTube mysterious ways. There we go. That's an excellent one. Or like the clean

anything could happen. Although I think that song is actually quite dark. Sure. I think it's about being addicted to heroin maybe or in some ways. Maybe that's not a good one. Violent Femmes American Music. Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good. That's a good.

They don't like American music. They never heard American music. They didn't know the music was in my soul. Oh, oh, oh. Also, that's not song says, I did too many drugs. Did you do too many drugs? Yeah, that's a banger. What about you? Oh, you know what? I changed my answer. The Replacements I will dare. That's my final answer. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good. I'd like to be a person who's constantly has the audacity of hope and would dare to do things. The replacement's arc is ultimately one of not tragedy, but like not outsized success, right? And so is that, are you going to redeem that song by prevailing in your own hero's journey?

I think, I think that's a good arc for you is to sort of take that song and turn it into a triumph of your own. I like that. Let's package this up and sell it. Let's sell this bad boy. What about you, Rob? What's your, what's your mini-series? What's your miniseries song? Okay, I think Kiss by Prince is just my standard answer to like, I'm entering a room or a space. Like the batting music, like the walk-up batting music, that's what I would want. Is it?

And I walk in. Like, that just sounds really cool to me. That doesn't have any sort of deeper philosophical notion. driving it, I just think that I would look cooler if that song accompanied me in my daily life, you know, and just started playing again when I left. Yeah, like love and respect. Do you feel that song is something that you evoke, per se? Does it capture my essence?

No, no, it doesn't. There's an aspirational, there's an aspirational quality. Thank you for the love and respect, by the way. okay, okay, fair enough. I can't really carry off Prince as a vibe myself. Is there a song that indicates someone is not getting enough protein? My hero's journey is becoming worthy of Prince's kiss. There are many songs like that.

Lots of replacement songs, I think, are basically... The National's entire catalog might as well be. You know, we're just malnourished. Bloodless. How many members? of this band can we feed with a rack of lamb? Yes. Wow. Okay. All right. This question is from Brody, and I'm going to read it verbatim because that is what I should do. Yasi, dude, I'm writing you to ask if the public Spotify page, and there's an attached image, is yours. If it is, I'd love to listen to

some more Yassi curated playlists, but there are only two, and I've already meticulously combed through them for sustenance. And of course, if it isn't you, how do we eliminate this imposter and get our grubby little pause on authentic Yassi playlists? Thanks, you're the best love you, love time. XOXO. Also, please give us an incubus episode. I think we all knew how that message was going to end up with an incubus shout out. Is this you, Yassie? Yeah, that's me, that gorgeous photo I did take of myself. I was not aware I had any public spot of my playlist. And now I'm dying to know what the two that are public are. I hope they're okay. You have two. It's Incubis's greatest hits and then Incubis Deep Cuts playlist. They're both.

Yeah. The answer to that question, the year of our Lord 2022. Oh, that's a good one. I made that. It's the first playlist. It's just, and the second playlist, and this intrigues me, just says, sleepy. And it starts with a pin back song. We got, I'm on fire by Bruce Springsteen. Loro. That's correct. Date with IKEA. That's not really a sleepy pavement's on.

It's a little upbeat. Is this sleepy for sleeping or does it or is that taking, there's national songs on here by the way also. I said publicly that I liked two national songs and that leads me to tell you that that playlist was absolutely made over a decade ago. So I don't know what the fuck I was thinking when I made it. I don't know why I called it sleepy. It was made in like 2012 or something or 13.

I don't know. I don't know what's on there. Okay. What's the question? Can I have more playlists? Can you do incubus? What is the question? Is this you?

Both. All three of those. Is this you? We've answered that. It is. Can we have more Yasi playlists? And separately, can we have an incubus episode? That's the question. Sir, I am a professional. This is, they pay me the medium-sized bucks to do this.

You want me to just fucking give the cow's milk for free over here? Like, absolutely not. Wow. It's a gift to you. I should be handsomely rewarded for such things. And yes, I'm sure we will do it in Cuba's episode. Thank you, Brody. Absolutely. Please enjoy my sleepy playlist with pinback's loro on it. I'm going to play this right after we stop talking. Actually, the national song is the same song twice. It's Karen. Karen. That's my favorite national song.

Your two favorite national songs are Karen and then Karen again. Okay. That's right. Good. It's good. Can we figure this out? Okay. This question is from Quinn Rolo.

Good afternoon, Yossi and Rob. I am a big fan of your bands playing in 60 songs podcasts, but I've often wondered. Do you like every band slash song you cover? If not, does your opinion ever change throughout the research and writing you do? Or is liking the band or song a prerequisite to devoting all your time to the podcast in the first place? Thank you so much for reading my question and for the hours of music nerd entertainment you provide. P.S. Yasi, your love for DMB warms my heart. Dave Matthews is a musical staple for me, my sisters and your parents.

So I especially have enjoyed all the time you've spent on DMB. Thank you, Quinn. Signed Quinn from Massachusetts. Thank you, Quinn from Massachusetts. The answer is, of course, I don't like every band in song I cover. I'm not an absolute fucking sociopath with no discernment or taste. But I understand the question. I mean, see fish episodes, see Primus episode.

Primus, I was going to say. God, what were they called? Machina 1 and 2? See Machina 1 and 2. Smashing P.S. 10 Weezer albums. 10 Weezer albums. A lot of Weezer records.

It's a very, it's a prodigious output, weasers. Did I get into the Machina albums? No. So is there anybody you've liked a lot more at the end? Is there anybody who you changed your mind on? I'm sorry to the people that. that have listened to all the listener mailbacks, because we get an iteration of this question every time,

and I'm happy to keep answering it. But it's all right. It's fine. I mean, really the one I think about the most is in St. Clown Posse because I wasn't like, you know, a diehard fan or anything, but learning about them and their community and their beautiful expression of solidarity with their people.

I found very moving and made me really like them. And then a broader answer is that I'm, always touched and inspired by any artist's dedication and what they put into their careers and outputs. You can't help but have a fondness for them, if not for what they have created. Even Primus. Especially Primus. Not Fish, but Primus.

Fish is very meaningful to a lot of people and I'm really happy for them or I'm sorry that happened. But I will not be reading all that. I'm not going to listen to all that. I'm sorry that happened. Okay. Alex Rodriguez says, hi, Yossi. Just want to quickly add that I've been listening to Bansplain for over a year now. And it has truly re-sparked a love from music knowledge that I haven't felt since I was a preteen obsessing over Paramore. Love your work. And thank you for your variety of podcast content. First question I want to ask is, what are your top five music videos

that you felt were culturally important or goddamn gorgeous videos that remain pieces of artwork to this day? Maybe ones you haven't mentioned on the pod yet? I didn't like that the caveat was added because then it made it really hard. Right. You've mentioned a lot of videos on the pod.

This is the 100th episode of the show. As you guys all know, I black out when I record this show. So I couldn't even tell you what videos I've mentioned because I wasn't there. I don't know. I mean, like, it's, there's so many, right? Like we kind of talked about on the draft, but like all of the early Madonna videos because I was like obsessed with Madonna and I would like tape them on VHS. Like a prayer, express yourself, material girl. I didn't even really.

It was one of those things where I was like, oh my God, open your heart. La Isla Bonita. Yeah. Gorge. Papa don't preach. That one was really emotionally scarring. Honestly, I didn't really understand what was happening. Dania,

Daniel, cherish. Yeah, there's a lot going on. Yeah. Obviously, doll parts by a whole was massively important for me

as a young lady. I just, Courtney's love was fucking cool as hell, but also like so not a pop star and so like messy and sort of violent. Like, that was just like,

so, much going on that I hadn't seen. I thought it was so cool. And, you know, I know teen spirit is culturally the more important Nirvana video, but I think heart-shaped box is the one that always stays with me in my mind because it was so color saturation and the weird old man and the all the imagery and it was just so crazy. And also speaking of color saturation, the when I come around Green Day video, that was like borderline pornography to me. I was basket. I was like 12 and I was like There's boys like this

They dress like this They walk around town That's the one where they're just walking right Yeah that's okay Obviously just a girl Sure no doubt because Gwen Stefani was fucking cool Obviously And I'm not typically a fan of foo fighters

In general like a strong fan But the ever long video Because obviously Sure The big hands Michelle Gondry I had all those DVD and that, I love ever long.

It's my, like, one of my favorite Food Fighter songs and just the fucking coolest video. It's just so weird and cool. It's pretty cool. And give it away. Bro, give it away. I was going to say your restraint and not saying under the bridge is remarkable. It was more give it away, though. Would you go give

it away over under the bridge? It was just like all the silver and like Frischanti's Mohawk. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Those are, that's my, there's so, I'm forgetting so many. Let's just say the entire contents of the MTV's buzzbin. You know which ones I hate...

There we go. I fucking hated. I hated REM. I hated losing my religion. It made me feel weird. Really? It made you feel weird. Yeah.

Made me feel weird. Yeah. I made a runaway train. I don't want to think about this. Yeah. Bumbing me out. Yeah. It's heavy.

It's a lot of process when you're 13 or whatever. Maybe live placenta falling to the floor. I do remember that. It's sort of afraid. Afraid. video. A placenta doesn't actually fall to the floor, right? I would hope that that would be rendered metaphorically. No, but it's like a creepy video. Do you remember it? It's kind of creepy. I'm trying to conjure it up and I don't know. I feel like every video was just him in close up,

like gesticulating. Just his shiny bald head. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. He's shirtless most of the time. It's just not a natural or a comfortable environment. Live video. videos in general. Yeah. Okay. That was a good cross-section of videos, I thought. That covers, thank you. It covers the waterfront. Okay. Second question I have is what are your top music documentaries and why? Do you think there are any current music documentaries worth mentioning? Okay. Everybody knows the best music documentary of all time is some kind of monster about Metallica. Hard agree. That goes without saying. It does. It actually does go without saying. music documentaries. Have I even watched a current music documentary? It's been a while since there's been a really good one. Yeah. They're getting a little perfunctory, right? Like every pop star gets one, but they're very controlled. They're like advertisements. They're like long marketing materials, which is totally fine. And then I think there's probably good ones that I've actively avoided because I don't like to like watch things 10 times. And I know I'm going to do an episode eventually. So I'm just like,

we'll put a pin in that. Oh, like, I heard the BG's one was really good, but I haven't watched it. Did you watch that one? Yeah, I haven't gotten to that one, yeah. Yeah, probably. I did not know. So sorry to not have a good answer for that. Yeah, it's been a while.

Like, what makes some kind of monster the greatest one ever is that, like, it's ill-advised, right? Like, you kind of have to feel like the band is not maybe happy that this is the movie that came out. But I feel like. I can't believe they let you put this out, totally. Exactly. Yeah, that's, there's, Pop stars have too much control over this now and they're just advertising.

Okay. We did watch the Beckham documentary. That was good. Not music per se. Is it good other than the you're not working class thing that's been It's so good. It's honestly so good. And I don't even give a fuck about soccer or football or whatever.

But like, it's really well done. It like you don't, I just, I love the relationship of him and posh. You, you don't really, realize what an insane career he had and how incredible he was as an athlete. And then like,

I don't know. And also how much he had to deal with with like the entire country wishing he was dead. Just a lot. It's really good. That's a lot to deal with. I would imagine. So they're, they generally get along because that clip of him being like, you're not working class. You had a Rolls-Roy's. No, it's actually very cute. The whole documentary isn't that combative. Actually, even that part is really cute. It's more like, like, they riff on each other, like, because they're, like, so cute together. Right. Okay. Ryan Houston says, hello. Whenever I get married, would you officiate my wedding? Many thanks. And then it's the greater than sign four. And I don't know, I can't figure out if this is an emoji. He meant to put three because that makes a heart. What if you put a

but I think that was a typo. I understand. I'm obsessed with this message because the whenever is doing a lot of heavy lifting in which it indicates that you are not currently in a relationship. There's a lot of unweed being radiating. There's no, there's really no plans or any real indication that you will be getting married. However, I like your style and I will officiate your wedding with the caveat that wherever you live, you have to fly me there first class but then i'll do it first class okay hopefully he doesn't live in

australia wherever it is first class so think about that when you're budgeting your imaginary wedding good luck ryan finding you know a partner first of all okay isabel says slash asks i'm high as hell right now transcending to venice bitch and i have to know what your favorite Lana song is. Let me know, babe. Great question. It is a great question. I had to think about this for a while. I think ultraviolence, the title track off of the album of the same name, which is also my favorite Lana album is probably, I'd have to say my favorite Lana song. Also, I did spend one full year, had some overlap with the dark year

of the soul. I had a couple of dark years. I had a couple of dark years, you guys. Very depressed, taking a lot of clonopin and just laying in bed every day listening to that album. So it's very near and dearer to my heart. That's a very Lana activity. It was. I was really Lana cosplay. But yeah, I really love ultraviolence. Okay.

Babe. Next. Okay. All right. L.M.K. Babe. Heather Mack says, hello, my angel, goddess, Yassie. Thank you for the end.

entertainment. Bansplain is my favorite podcast, and I apologize for cultivating my own parascial, imaginary besty relationship without your consent. I simply cannot help it. I have two questions for you. One, you often talk about how you don't play instruments or sing well, but if you were able to magically gain musical skill overnight, what instruments would you play? And what would your band's genre slash name be? That's easy. I would absolutely sing because I would not want. I would have to be the front person. Of course. And also I would just love to sing. If I could sing well, I would just entertain myself all the time. I don't understand people who can sing who just don't sit around all day and cover songs. That's all I would do. Just sit around and be like, let me try my hand at this one. Sure.

What would my band's genre and name be? I mean, I suppose it would be a guitar rock music given. you know my interest seems just the national yeah it basically sounds like wilco i mean i don't have a good name i always used to joke that my warped or emo band name would be corner of solace so maybe it should just be corner of solace done in that corner of solace i'm singing i think you'd really thrive on the one i also often think i'd make a really good hardcore front woman I think I'd be a good hardcore band front singer. I agree. All the protein you're consuming, I think, would help you, you know, with all the...

Exactly. I'm ripped. Ejecting of stage crashers. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like hardcore shows do actually love to, like, be like, we go on at 7 p.m., which also fits really well into my lifestyle. Whereas, like, indie rock bands are like, see you at 11 p.m.

And you're like, absolutely the fuck not, bitch. one is coming to see you at 11 p.m. Yeah. No, thank you. Matinee shows. I get to be buff. This is a great place for me, I think. Corner of Salas is now a hardcore band.

There, you've really, this is awesome. I'm really into it. I will come to your band's matinees. The second question is, I did 100 episodes of a podcast called Make It Stop, where I discussed bad slash critically maligned albums in depth. Please do not listen to my.

opinions of Dave Matthew's band is it will end our imaginary friendship instantly. Just kidding, I know you have much better things to do. And I respect you deeply for that. Do you have any albums slash artists that you know deep down are terrible, but you cannot help but love? Or artists slash albums that everyone loves, but you simply cannot get behind. I mean, look, everyone knows how varied my taste is, does it matter if people, who is people? You know what I mean? Like, what? Pitchfork thinks it sucks. Who cares? Like, I don't, you know. Who is people? Who is people? I'm like, you say Dave Matthew's band, babe, but in the decade of 2000 and 2010, Dave Matthews band was the highest grossing touring band of all time. So people thinking they were bad didn't really make a difference. So I don't know. I know that a

lot of what I listen to is not considered like cool or whatever, but I don't care. Right. There's probably artists that everyone loves, but I can't get behind. And I just don't want to say it because I don't see the point. I don't, I just don't see the point, you know. There you go. But there are. Just, just know that there are.

I get it. Tom Havrilla, no relation. Tom Havrilla is the man that tricked me into following him. I mean, I know you didn't do this on purpose, Tom Havrilla, but I was tricked to see him because I thought that this was your brother, Rob Harvilla, and that he was just doing a funny joke on his screen name by spelling it wrong. And then come to find out this is not at all your brother or anyone that you know. I don't think that's necessarily Tom's fault that that happened. I don't think Tom is misrepresented himself on the internet as my brother. It's true. It is a very, every time I see

that name, I do get a little disoriented. Tom would like to know, did late night talk shows or SNL have any influence on your discovery of new music. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm sure it did. Like, I feel like I remember seeing bands on like Conan and you know who always had really good bands on was the John Stewart. The, was the MTV that he had a show on. Oh, yeah. Sunny Day Real Estate. Like he always, yeah, so for sure, I don't, I'm sure it did too, but I don't remember as much. I feel like at least in the 90s, by the time a band was on SNL, they were kind of big already. They're like, were surely already on MTV. You knew them. Right. Whereas, like, earlier on it wasn't like that. Like, discovery. Remember how fear was on Saturday Live? Oh, yeah.

Because of John Belushi, because he was a fan. That's probably a lot of people's. Yeah. Anyways. Were the replacements as well? They were definitely honest. Yeah. And then they were banned forever because, uh, because they cursed.

That's right. And they were wasted. Ah. Yeah. Uh, of course. Legends. Legend behavior. I feel like the last time, like a band got.

big off a late night appearance was the future islands. 100%. And this is itself. This is like between five and 10 years. The letterman thing with a dance. Yeah. I don't think that that really happens. That was more just like going viral in the internet age and less like because people

watch late night TV. Yeah. Okay. Adam Yo would like to know. He says endless thanks for all of your hard work. Great content and thought. conversations. I've always been curious. If these exhaustive deep dives have changed your listening habits, do you find that you listen more or less to a band after doing so much work? Are there any

bands that you flipped on in either direction? What's your music consumption look like? And then he thanks you for writing so hard for Dave Matthews. Every question has a Dave Matthews. I think everyone's either, like, thank you so much for loving Dave Matthews, or please don't look at my thoughts and feelings about Dave Matthews because you'll be upset. Right. It depends. Like, did I listen to more Primus after doing the episode? The answer is no.

Did I continue to listen to the Smiths for like two weeks after I had already listened to them for three weeks straight? The answer is yes. So I think it just depends. Okay. I don't know about you, Rob Heverilla, but I'm kind of lazy when it comes to choosing what music to listen to. So it's quite easy when I'm doing an episode

Because then I'm like, oh, I'm going to put that shit on And if I'm not, I'm always doing it episode But sometimes I'm like, okay, what do I put on? Then I'm like, oh, I just did the Smiths. I have a Smith playlist or like, let me go to Archers of Lof Web in front and then click the Web in front radio button and then just let that rip. Like it's just sometimes too hard to- That's probably pretty gratifying.

It's pretty good. It has like some wiper songs and, you know, it goes in an interesting direction. Sure, sure. That's what my music consumption. looks like. It is weird when you have a framework and then you feel lost without the framework. I know what you're talking about. That's why I like the serious, serious. So I just revert to a playlist I found called sleepy. You're just like, you know what I really need to hear today? I need to hear lorro by pinback and then Karen two times. Okay. Let's see here. Yvonne says, hi Yassi and producer Jesse.

Love this podcast. It gives me the audacity of hope in this world. That's very nice. She has three questions that you can choose from. First question, what three members of what band or band would you want to do an escape room with? And why? Yasi, have you ever done an escape room? Do I look like I've done an escape room?

No, you do not. I'm just clarifying, but I... I don't really understand what that is. What happens? happens. You pay money to go in a room that you have to escape out of. I don't get it. Is there like, there's like riddles? I think that's it. It's very popular in the Midwest. They're just being strip malls. Like, they'll just be like a jamba juice and then an escape room next to it. And what feels like a very confined. Did you say jamba? Did you say jamba juice?

I just, I just said jamba juice. What's your deal with jamba juice? It's jamba. No, it's not. In the Midwest, it's jamba. That's what I'm saying. Like in the Midwest, you're like, they're very popular here. Yes, in the Midwest, very popular was cow tipping also. You guys have a different standard for diversions. That's a cliche. Are you sure it's Jamba? Is there like a famous person named Jamba, who I'm disrespecting by mispronouncing

his name? Wow, this is a real regional divide. I think probably escape rooms are really fun. I just, I'm in a constant escape room of the mind. And that's right. You are trying to escape from this recording room right now, and you will not find the key. I live in a constant state of escape room. It's called the Google Doc.

There you go. No, I don't know. Who do I want to go to an escape room with? Can't help but think the first candidate should be David Matthews because he has a good attitude. And I think he'd bring a lightheartedness to the event. Eat drink and be merry. And let's get out of this room. Yeah.

And then I think maybe Milo Ockerman from the descendants because, well, he has a PhD. So he's smart. And he can help us get out. And then honestly, just to like throw in a wild card, Billy Corgan. Because I feel like it would really put the fire under everyone's ass to like get the fuck out of there faster. I was going to say you would get out of that room so much faster. Just punch a hole through a wall. and therefore escape the room, I think.

So, you know, me needing to get back to the Google Doc, I think that would help. The nightmare blunt rotation right there. That was a very thoughtful answer to a hypothetical that's never going to happen. Okay. Yeah. Second question. Now that you've been to the sphere in Vegas, what would be your dream band to see there from any time era, living or dead together, not together? Doesn't matter.

Who should play the sphere? This is such a hard question, don't you think? It is. I love how many people sent me the TikTok of the person who said if they were in charge of the sphere, they would put, did you see this? They would put themselves up on the screen and say, hey, we know you did psychedelics. The police are coming. I did not see that. That's very funny.

I don't know. Honestly, take this answer with a grain of salt because I didn't think about it at all. But like, I don't know, Oasis reunion, I think would probably be pretty cool there. Wow. Frankly, I was trying to think of something I wanted to do drugs. too. And then I was like, Oasis reunion. Okay. Totally valid. You know who would

probably do an amazing job? Is Radiohead would do an amazing job probably. Because I agree. If like Radiohead did Kid A or like Kid A plus X like X amount of songs from the other like X amount of good songs from the other albums like some in rainbows, some fucking

idiot. In rainbows. Some fucking okay computer, you know. And then I feel like they would come up with cool visuals. There you go. Yeah. Were you two good? Did they sound good? It sounded really good, yeah. All the YouTube, not YouTube, like the TikToks or whatever, it's like, there's a, it's obviously

visually overwhelming, but it dwarfs the band to the point that how the band sounds doesn't matter. And I just, I was wondering if like you two even registered. The band sounded really good. Bono sounded really good. The new drummer is amazing. It did ruin it a bit when he spoke because he's, Dutch, but he's an incredible drummer.

That does ruin the illusion. You know what I mean? The Edge and Bono's like harmony sounded so good. Like they really sounded good and honestly a controversial opinion, but I think it's kind of a blessing when you can't see a band that is on in years while they're playing songs from 30 years ago. Yeah. No, that's, that makes total sense.

That would be a little disconcerting. Okay. And finally, this is an intense question, to both Yossi and her guests, that's me, if their entire catalog of music was inside a burning building, never to be heard ever again, would you save the cure or the Smiths? This is a very Smith's or the cure question or premise. I would save my dinosaur junior green mind t-shirt. And the cat, you wear cats.

Yeah. No, I don't play. I'm not playing this game. The answer is no. It's too sacred. Okay. How dare. The answer is no.

No. No is an answer. Cameron Reiser asks, Hey, bandsplainers. Hope you're having a nice day. My question is, is there a band that you, Yasi, refuse to cover on bandsplain? They're just too annoying or too controversial. Like, no matter the demand, no matter the importance, no matter the impact you

just cannot deep dive into them. Or alternately, what band do you dread covering? Love the show, Cameron. I'll do anything. I'm not afraid. Next week, bandsplain, screwdriver. I'm just kidding. We're not ever doing screwdriver.

Yeah, of course, there's bands. I don't want to ever do it. And I won't tell you what they are because that's the thing. You just will never know because we'll never do it. So, but of course. Matt asks, what episode? of your respective shows got the most reply guy responses. What is the most feedback you've ever received for a Bandspline episode?

That's a great question. I don't really know because like it depends how I, like if I post a grid post on my Instagram, I get a lot of comments. And if I don't, then they're just the DMs that I don't super pay attention to. So I don't really know. people seem to really be happy about Afghan wigs, although I did get one message that was like, I really wanted to love the Afghan wigs episode. But you did not talk at all about the obvious impact and influence on Interpol. I was like, I'm sorry, what?

I think that would be a great surprise to Interpol as well, that they are so influenced by the Afghan wigs. I could not have predicted where that criticism was going to go. I was waiting for what the, and I was like. Is that like a fashion thing? Like they sort of dress similarly. There's like a dapperness. I don't know. I was like, okay.

Okay, heart in my mind because I don't write back to these things. I don't, again, as we've talked about, because I've healed psychologically, I don't look at the Reddit anymore. So that's probably where we would know the answer to this. You say that a lot. It's true. you actually say that you don't visit the Reddit so often that I do sometimes wonder if it is not a lady doth protest too much situation I really do not look at the Reddit okay all right

yeah I don't know I don't know which episode got the most well actual is I don't know I mean there's always no matter what I do like no matter what level of contacting the CIA to get like classified documents I do there's always somebody who writes and is like you didn't talk about this one remix that they did that was on this obscure compilation that's out of print and I can't believe that you didn't talk about that and I'm so sorry thank you thank you for your comments sir yes all right then Zach asks he says hey gang is there any hope for extreme music particularly extreme metal music being covered on bandsplain do you have any real interest in that that sort of stuff, perhaps Slayer. Also, the episode of 24 questions you did with my brother, Ian, of military gun, was fantastic. I don't know if this feels to me like they might actually be brothers. Awesome podcast, by the way, Zach, a 23-year-old metalhead residing in Petaluma. Yeah, I did text Ian to be like, I was like, is this your homie?

And he was like, no, that's literally my brother. So hello to Ian. Ian of Military Guns, brother, Zach. I will definitely do Slayer. I love Slayer. I don't know if that surprises anyone. I've been to multiple Slayer concerts in my one wild and precious life and enjoyed every moment of it. When I am tired and I have to drive, I almost exclusively listen to Slayer.

They have 12 albums, so I just need to get around it. I'm not a big metal head, so I don't know, like producer Jesse might know. but like in terms of extreme metal music like do you mean like bursam like how extreme are we I was gonna ask like just Slayer qualifies extreme right right right Claire is hard you know it's hard stuff throw the the horns or whatever but yeah producer jesse says slayer counts it's the DNA but like I mean I feel like there's got to be some like necro butcher or something you know what I mean like I don't know like some like norwegian region death metal.

I don't even know if that's an actual band or not. Necro butcher is a person. Necro butcher is a person? Yeah, that's what it's called necro butcher. Oh, cannibal corpse. I do really like cannibal corpse. This is unrelated, but a producer Jesse would be happy. I would also love to do crow mags one day.

It just made me think of it because I also start with a sea. Sure. I don't know why it's so funny. The drummer of the band Dark Throne is named Fenris. I don't know why that makes me. I'm just randomly now on like Norwegian death metal, Google, looking at these people's names. There we go. That's really funny.

Maybe do private browsing. Yeah. Yes, we'll do it. We'll do it for you. I'll do it for Ian's brother. You got it. There you go. Scott in Texas says, thank you for all the work you put in.

The shows are phenomenal. I have a combo question. How far do you go before deciding to go all the way? away with a band. And have you ever gotten deepish into research, but then it became clear that the end product wouldn't be worth a time and effort you are putting into it? Have you ever aborted an episode of the show? The answer is no, because unfortunately I've painted myself into such a corner of a situation in which it's simply not an option because the show, as they do say in Tinsletown must go on. And thusly, if I've started, we must finish or there will not be an episode.

So the answer is no. I just keep on trucking. There's no escaping from the escape room that is. Did Weezer put out 15 albums? That's correct. Their catalog keeps growing every time you return to that too, which is very funny. Like while I'm in the middle. Before I record, they put out, they're like, we made an opera of four seasons.

Seven albums. Oh, the purple album is like, oh, Christ. I'm like that. Is it Sisyphus? He pushes the boulder up the hill over and over again. But it's Weaser Alba. Yes. But it's you pushing Weezer's catalog up the hill.

Yes. In Boulder form. Can we 40-year-old guys look forward to any iconic country episodes like Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, or Patsy Klein? Here's the thing. I like country a lot. I love them. These artists that you've mentioned. as producer jesse has pointed out they have massive discographies that's a and be people don't seem to listen

so like whenever we stray outside of the guitar rock box whenever i am the man in the box and i choose to you know your niche for example the dream episode or we did a rea mackintyre episode it's not it's not quite received the same way but i mean i do eventually want to have producer dylan on to do Loretta Lynn, so maybe I will start there. Oh, man, you got to do that. I'll listen to that 40,000 times. That's what. You didn't read his message to you.

I'll read it. He said, keep up the good work. I'm obsessed. I absolutely know that this is always said lovingly, so I'm not criticizing. It's just so funny to me that I am constantly being told to keep up the good work by men. It's never women. What is it? What is the undertone that you're deriving from that?

What if that was just the fuel that kept me going? What if like enough men didn't tell me to keep up the good work in a week? I would simply not keep up the good work. I would put down the good work. And I would. It's just, again, I'm not criticizing. I think it's a very, I think it's almost always said from like a very like kind and like, you know,

genuine place. It's nice. Like go get him, Tiger. But it's just, it's just very funny to me. Sure. He also said. I am assuming Sir Robert Harvilla

the fourth Esquire is reading this. So I want to give a huge shout out to him as well. I didn't know you were a lawyer. Is that what Esquire means? I don't even know if that's true. I thought that just meant like cool bachelor. You're in the Bill and Ted School of Things, but I think Esquire does mean you're illegal.

You have a legal degree and you can practice law. Okay. Yes. Lee asks, have you ever been embarrassed by a show, by a concert? think you've seen. I suspect your answers will be no, but I have an example to share. I saw a local third wave ska scene stars five iron frenzy. I know those guys. And a mega church in the suburbs and when

they invited us to pray with them for a very nebulous length of time after the last song. My friend and I didn't have to say anything to know the other was thinking, let's get the fuck out of here and smoke cigarettes in the parking lot. And we did. Then a few years later, my mom, mom got into one of her occasional pursuits of non-specific Jesus faith, and had my sister and I, having moved out of my own by now, to church for an ex-miss service. It turned out to be that church, but this time I was wearing a homemade crass shirt and felt much more prepared. The end. Thanks for potting, even if it makes you miserable. Lee knows you very well. My dad died suddenly in February, and the pot has been a great part of my processing that. All I know is,

I don't know nothing Lee. That's a very nice message from Lee. That's very... That's very nice. And I'm really glad. I'm sorry, first of all, I'm very sorry about your dad. And I'm happy that my mentally ill ravings

about guitar rock music in a crisp vocal fry. And Reba McIntyre. And Reba McIntyre and the Dream are helping you cope with that. What is it? It's your... What did you say? vocal fry is your paints that you had a really good that's my paints the the microphone is my brush yeah there's i'm an artist yeah those it was beautiful i do want to give you a piece of advice

which is some things you don't have to tell other people it's okay to have private parts of your podcasters creed yeah i mean not that i've listened to my own advice over here so don't But like, I mean, starting with I went to the Five Iron Frenzy Show and then going through the rest of the details. At a mega church in the suburbs. I think, yeah. I don't know that I've, I mean, I'm sure I've been embarrassed for the artist at a show at some point. I've been to a lot of shows, but nothing really specific is coming to mine. I do remember all I'm thinking of is when I went to the warp tour when I was like a teenager and.

and Eminem performed, and he got booed off stage. They pelted him with water bottles. You watched Eminem get booed off stage at the Warp Tour. Yeah. He had only put out, like, only real slim, shady play his standup, had come out, and like, I mean, it was the Warp Tour,

you know, like it wasn't, we weren't living in the world of all the genres crossover that we live in now. I mean, body count play, but that's different. Right. That is different. People are not going to throw stuff at iced tea.

No. Oh, absolutely. I see we'll get right back in the crowd. He turned that into content, Eminem here. Yeah. Yes. Okay. This question comes from Peace Sister, which is all one word.

Yeah. It says parentheses all one word. Hey, Yossi and Rob, thanks for being bright spots in the hellscape. My question, fave albums to get you through a little mentee be. thanks. Men t-B being mental breakdown. Do I have that, right? Just clarify. A little mentee-be. Okay.

I mean, this is so nuanced, such a nuanced question. It is. Ment-tibs are like snowflakes, you know what I mean? No two are alike. So you really have to sort of tailor your music listening experience during the mentee-be

to exactly the contour and shape of your particular mentee-be. so I really can't give a solid answer to that question. You have to dig deep. I see. There is every mentee be is distinct and requires a big-spoke response. All happy families are the same, but all mentee-bees. All mentee bees are mentee in their own way.

Famous line. That's right. Excellent, excellent answer. That's right. Ellie Mead asks, Hi, Yassian company. can you please help me to understand the lyrics in the bridge of Crash Into Me by Dave Matthews, specifically, hike up your skirt a little more and show the world to me.

I just don't understand how to interpret these lyrics. Is Dave Matthews joking? Is he not? I don't know which is better. If he's not joking, what am I supposed to do with those lyrics? They're so purvy. I was not acquainted with Dave Matthews band until I started listening to your podcast. And no one in my life has been able to give me a satisfying explanation.

Please shed some lights on this important topic. Do we think Ellie is obviously Gen Z if she had not heard sight or sound of David Matthews before this podcast, right? I think Ellie putting, I think it's eight E's in the word please identifies her as a Gen Z person. Also, yes, yes. Well, Ellie, I'm going to answer this question for you. The answer is, was David Matthews joking? Is he not? The answer is both.

So he's gone on record to say that this is an actual love song that he wrote about the beginning of his partnership with his person, his wife, that is still his wife. Yes. You know, it is a, it is a sexual song. It is a sexy song. It's sort of slightly voyeuristic. It's, you know, all that. But he has also said that the hike up your skirt a little more and show the world to me was a bit of a throwaway joke line that he threw in at the end that sort of stuck. But he also said that like perhaps he was lying to himself about how horny and sexual the song really was, and it was sort of revealed to him in this throwaway line.

So that's the answer. And is it pervy? Yes, babe. That's part of the appeal of the song. It's hella pervy. Have I sufficiently answered that question? I think you've absolutely answered that question. Andrew Shields asks.

This is a question I think about far more than any sane person should. Parentheses, the male urge to rank things. Andrew is very self-aware. That's right. Which non-obvious city slash area? And he lists New York City, L.A., Chicago, London, Detroit, Manchester, Seattle, etc., has the best music. Those are all pretty obvious. But, okay, my Minneapolis ass is obviously biased because, hello, we have Prince, the Replacements, Husker Do, Babes and Toyland, Atmosphere of the Time, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Soul Asylum, Lifter, Polar, Semi-Sonic, Dillinger, 4, etc.

He doesn't even mention Dylan, which is... He's like, and some guy. Thoughts and opinions. And then he lists his address. Not this man, including his entire address. Why are you attaching your full mailing address where you live, probably your home? If you would like to mail anything to Andrew, he was just, you know, he's just, he's shooting his shot, I think. Or show up at his house.

But what if I read it out loud on the podcast, then anyone could show up at his house. That's... Andrew is just... be besets by Bansblane listeners. I have to say, once again, you don't have to tell everyone everything. This question is so challenging because, as Andrew mentioned, I don't have a real libido for ranking things. I don't really find it useful or interesting, but I guess I'll say that you left out this.

Would you count the South Bay as Los Angeles or would we count that as something else? Los Angeles geography is baffling to me. I just, I do not understand what any of you are talking about ever. And so you can put anything in Los Angeles if you want. You can put Nevada in Los Angeles if you want. I just, I have no idea what's happening out there. It's just, it's very confusing to me. I'll tell you that Minneapolis does have a beautiful and fine musical.

history and you should be proud. I think Prince and Bob Dylan alone make a pretty strong argument. I like that Semi-Sonic made the list closing time of closing time fame and not Bob Dylan. Yeah. Dilliger for a rad. Yeah, but yeah, there's, I don't think he necessarily ordered this. Well, maybe he did actually. Atmospheric.

Sure. Atmospheric before the time. Like, sure. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Christopher Carter says.

Medina, Ohio, still loves you, Rob Harvilla, even though you snaked like a prayer in the 89 draft. Do better. That was my, I do feel bad about that. Still. Who have the guests been where you needed to get your shit together prior to taping? I'd imagine you connect with guests to compare notes prior, but are there any who either intimidate you or made you nervous? Sick rapport skills, exclamation point. I'm sorry. Is the implication? Who has been your most intimidating guest?

Is the implication here that I don't always spend literal weeks getting my shit together for every episode, which is quite literally my job, is to spend time getting my shit together? Like, I don't know what is this. I think we mean getting my shit together in like an emotional, I'm nervous to talk to this person. Oh. I think the research is assumed correctly. I think they're asking if you've ever, by someone's fame or just aura of greatness, have you ever been so intimidated by a bands playing guest? You're making a face that indicates to me that you're not intimidated by anyone, including me, which is fine.

Well, definitely not you. That's your family. You're my dad. That's true. Yeah, not really. I don't. And what's the, again, what's the utility? him being intimidated.

I did, I'll tell you the, the most sort of, maybe like, I, that I got towards being sort of stressed and intimidated was when Hanif comes on, because he's like, doesn't he have like a Nobel Peace Prize? Yeah. I mean, he doesn't, but you know what I mean. He's like a, something like that. He's like a literal MacArthur genius winner. And I'm like, A, why are you here with me?

Why are you even talking to me a literal idiot? You know what I mean? You're like a literal, you have a MacArthur genius. and you must be busy. And I'm like demanding hours of your time and just asking every day, can you please come back for two and a half more hours for like five days in a row where I'm like, you must have something better to do.

So that always just makes me feel a little guilty because I'm like, damn, the world could be having like X amount of more like profound writing from Hanif. And instead he's like on my podcast for hours listening to maybe like this song fucks. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I guess that's my. answer.

That is a fine answer. All right. Jonathan Long says, Hello, you goddamn gorgeous babes. Rob, I have a question for you. My family currently lives in the American South in a pretty cool town. I like it here, and I like being close to the ocean. My wife is from Ohio and is seriously putting pressure on me to move there.

Should I begin reaching out to divorce attorney? or just prepare for my next phase in hell. Is it that bad? Any tips? It will be Cincinnati, so at least it's not as bad as northern Ohio, but I'll have to eat chili on noodles like I'm missing a chromosome or something.

That is a lot of rudeness. This is extremely, extremely rude. I don't like this, Jonathan. I don't like you talking to my dad like this. I'll be honest with you. Well, it's fine. He's talking about it. I take no offense, but just Jonathan is a very low opinion of Ohio.

Do you live in northern Ohio? I live in central Ohio. I live in Clems. I am from Cleveland, which is northern. Cincinnati is southern. Cincinnati's signature food stuff is indeed chili on noodles. I believe the website Deadspin once referred to it as diarrhea sludge. It is an acquired taste.

You put, you can put like a great deal, like a disconcerting amount of shredded cheese on it if you want. You can put oyster crackers and you can put onions on it. I believe that's a five way. I've gotten in trouble for misrepresenting Cincinnati chili in public before, but like I'm pretty sure I have that right. That sounds absolutely disgusting, Rob, I have to tell you, I'm so sorry. And I'm here. It is pretty disgusting. I'm here to respect.

There's a lot of protein in it, but it's gross. It's gross. It might be offset by all the sugar. and carbs. It's ironic. It's offset by the grossness, quite frankly. The question is, should I divorce my wife because she wants me to move to Ohio? No?

Well, I mean, really, it depends. How good is your relationship? He doesn't mention, he doesn't say anything about how much he likes his wife or his relationship. He seems to love, he loves being close to the ocean and the town. A lot of positive things to say about the American South. Not one nice thing about his wife. I think your wife should divorce you, bitch, honestly, if we're being honest. Like this message, you didn't even say one good thing about your marriage, your wife.

And I think she should go on over to Ohio and you can stay by the ocean, Virginia Wolf style. There we go. It's my. You know, it was really funny, Rob, in the Beckham documentary when they, not a spoiler alert, but when they are going to show the galaxy, the owner of the LA galaxy. and you know when it's like all of a sudden it's like everyone you've seen on camera has been European because it's European soccer and like and then all of a sudden it's right and on the table next to him I was like I'm sorry is that a hot pocket on a plate a Starbucks and a bottle of water I was like the set deck for the American was so funny they literally just have a loose hot pocket

next to him it was it was really something I wonder what if it was pepperoni or or tell from the outside. Yeah. Okay, Jonathan. That's what you get for asking. Next part is a... Jonathan has a question for you. It's not a question, but a suggestion, which means we're just going to skip it. Sorry, Jonathan. Yeah. No suggestions. Detective Cox wants to know what 2023 music are you listening to. Okay. I talk about this a lot, but I actually will happily talk about it again because I do love to talk about contemporary artists that I love and want more people to know about. So I talk about them all the time. Crushed. Crushed is amazing. Military gun. His brother wrote in. We love a band. His brother also listens to bands playing.

He did. Fiddlehead is amazing. I love this band, Julie. You know I love Blond shell. I really like Blade, who is one of the Swedish. I don't even know if we'd call them rappers, but Swedish people. There's a Swedish rapper named Blade. Yeah. Producer Justin Justice. See, what is the collective called? Drain Gang. Drain Gang. I don't get too deep into the rest of Drain Gang, but I like Blade. Spiritual Cramp is really good. They have a new first, I believe, first album coming out in November, but I have been privy to it because I am.

Spiritual cramp? Yeah, they're really good. You'll actually really like them. Okay. The band, MS. Paint is very good. Photographic memory. That's an L.A.

Luster, if you like Shugays. I always talk about mannequin pussy because I love mannequin pussy that put out a good song this year. Narrowhead. What else? I listen to the new Zach Bryan album quite a lot, quite a bit, maybe too much. Very good. Very good. It's really good.

What about you, Rob? You know, I like that Jeff Rosenstock record. Yeah, he's good. He's my guy, Jeff Rosenstock. I was listening to the Jesse Ware record today. That feels good. The disco record. It's sort of an occupational hazard for us, I think.

It's pretty bad. I'm not listening to as much new music as I'd like. to be. But those are... Home stretch. It is an occupational hazard, but those two stand up. Kevin says, Yasi, I've adopted all your skin,

diet, and exercise tips, and I am living the Bond lifestyle. I assume you meant to say Bond. Yeah, Bond's lifestyle. But I want to know what products do you swear by to clean your bathroom and what music gets you scrubbing bubbles? signed Kevin from Ohio.

This is a question from a man in Ohio who'd like to know how to clean his bathroom. Shout out, Ohio. The honest truth is I don't clean my own bathroom, but I do, I mean, you know, sometimes I have to do it in between tidy up. Sure. You're not going to like this,

but I do make my own cleaning products. I'm sorry, okay? I find that the, you know, commercially available cleaning products are bad for you. And honestly, it's cheaper to make your own. All you need is white vinegar and some essential oils. But do not ever mix. You need a spray bottle, obviously. You know, just put a little white vinegar, some water and some fucking essentials.

And it can smell good. And you've got yourself a beautiful cleaning product. It cleans almost everything. However, sometimes you do need bleach. And I must warn you extremely heavily. Do not mix the two. Never mix bleach and vinegar because it creates an extremely toxic and I believe combustive thing that you should not be around. Oh, good.

Yeah. Like a bomb, essentially. It's a bomb basically or whatever. It's just very toxic and bad for you. And I think you can, like, die from inhaling the fumes. So just make sure you separate the two. Okay. Cooking giant racks of lamb and making your own cleaning products.

It's just you're living your best life over there. Yes. That's right. That's right. In between the escape room. Yes. Felipe says long time, first time, big fan, all that good stuff. I was curious to know if you both have seen the movie, pump up the volume. And if so, what do you think about it?

And do you think it invented podcasting? Sub question, has ever been any movie or TV show that made you feel seen as a podcaster? Keep up to stellar work, Felipe. Did Christian Slater Invent Podcasting? Well, Filippe,

I want to talk to you about this thing that existed called the radio And then this thing called pirate radio This is an extremely Gen Z question,

I think, yes. Was pirate radio podcasting? I guess, kind of. Sure. Except the whole thing of podcasting is that it's available

on demand. And the whole thing of radio is that you have, It's an event that people gather around for. So I don't know that it's quite similar. What do you think, Rob? I've obviously, obviously I've seen Pump Up the Volume multiple times.

It's a fantastic film. It is a fantastic film. Great music. I do think the ephemeral nature of radio is a separate entity. But it's amusing to me to think that Christians later invented podcasting. So I'm actually going to say that he did. I think he did. That's my answer.

I don't think that I deserve to feel seen as a podcaster. I don't think anyone should feel seen as a podcaster. No. I don't want to be seen by my television. I don't want to be perceived as a podcaster. Honestly, none of it. But thank you for your question, Filippe. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed.

Okay. I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or process. or buy anything sold or processed or process anything sold bought or processed or repair anything sold, bought or processed. Except for athletic greens. You want to be,

you want to be sent? Yeah, I want to sell, I would like to sell athletic greens. For endorsement purposes. Correct. If you're listening, athletic greens. I'm here. I drink it every day. All right.

Is that high protein, I'm assuming? There's no, I don't usually any protein. It's greens. It's athletic greens, babe. No, I get it. I don't know it. Okay. So Han says,

Many of your listeners are probably aware of the major label signing frenzies that happened circa 1992 and it got on a smaller level circa 2001. For every band that blew up and sold a ton of records, there were a bunch more that didn't. Some really great records slipped through the cracks though and still remain relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things. My question for both of you, what are some of your favorite lesser known records from those two time periods, 1992 and 2001? things that got the big upgraded budgets but failed to reach a wider audience.

I'll use this as an opportunity to shout out two of my personal faves. The Lily's Better Won't Make Your Life Better from 1996 and the Icarus lines, Penance Suarez from 2004. Thanks as always to both of you for being who you are and doing what you do. If I signed your yearbooks, I'd write, don't change over the summer. Sahan from Milwaukee. What's up, Sahan? I'm going to give you a shout out

because I'm pretty sure that you were the first ever person to recognize me in the wild, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin at Summerfest. And that was a very, it was a big day for me. I was in Chicago, Illinois,

to visit Best Friend of the Paw, Dana Meyerson, and we had, you know, come to find out the Lemonheads were playing Summerfest and Guns and Roses and Dave Matthews band. And so we did a, we had, we obviously had to pile in the car and go check all that out.

Was that back to back to back? And in that order, verbatim, Lemonheads, then G&R, then, yeah, okay. It was a bit more spread out, honestly. I don't know. This was a hard one, but the thing that I thought of was Sam I Am, because I've just really been on a huge Sam I Am kick. Although my current favorite Sam I Am album, which I thought was on a major, was actually them back on an indie. because 1994 they put out clumsy on Atlantic.

And then in 1997, they put out, You're Freaking Me Out on Tommy Boy. But then the 2000 album Astray, which I think the best one, was back on an indie. But they were part of that major label signing frenzy that I don't think anyone talks about them enough. Yeah.

What about you, Rob? Feeding frenzy bands from 1990s. I feel like, I think of a lot of power pop, like drama-rama, right? Like everybody knows Anything. I give you anything. That's it.

That's it. Yeah. $100 bills. Yeah. Like material issue. Like I, people love those records, but I don't think they blew up the way they were intended to. I mean, there's a ton. Like, I watched hype recently again.

And like you see all these bands that are mentioned that did like, I mean, I think seaweed was on a major. Was seaweed not on a major? Seweed. See, it was a really good band, and they were, I'm pretty sure on a major, but like, no one cared, you know? No, they were emerged. Actually, they never. Oh, Hollywood Records, is that a major? I don't know, man.

I'm talking out of my ass. I don't pay attention to this. Yeah, it's close enough. That's fine. Okay. It's fine. Well, it's fine. Good story.

Okay. Thanks for recognizing Yassi, Zahan. That's very nice of you. Jesse asks, we, the royal we know you're a busy lady. Bansplaining, 24 questioning, bonging, etc. But would you ever consider regaling us with your movie wrecks and takes, dare I say, creating a letterboxed account? I've been watching the Hal Hartley Flicks on Criterion,

per your recommendation, which would have otherwise flown under my radar, and just like friends who recommend music, friends, parisocial or otherwise, who recommend movies are some of life's great joys. Best, Jesse. Do you have a letterbox to come? You know what I do? Because in the beginning of the year, I did a New Year's resolution and ill-advised New Year's

resolution in which I was going to get into film this year. I was going to get into film. And I was like, oh, I'm going to watch two films a week. Deeper into movies. And I gather all these recommendations. And you know what I have not done is watch films. I don't watch films. I don't know what's wrong with me.

I have very specific taste in films. I return to the ones I've already seen. a thousand times. Like, how many times have I seen singles? One billion. It's a comfort movie. Batman the Dark Night, never seen it. There's like a lot of movies I've never seen the people are like, how have you never seen this movie? And I don't know why. I don't have any explanation for you. I have an incredible attention span for 100 page Google Docs about bands from the 80s, but I have like no real attention span for films and I'm working on it. But anyways, letterbox feels like homework also. Like, wow, then I have to go write a little thing about

I have to go, I have to watch the movie, and I have to go write you a little thing about it. Like, I don't think so. As you say, I think it arises from the male need to list the ranking and listing. Yeah. Related. The ranking. Correct. Yes.

I'm glad it makes those people happy, but it's not for me. I don't know if it does make them happy. That's the thing. Chuck says, hi, Yasi, straight to my question. What's a cover? that made you fall in love with the song again or discover something new about the original. For me, I always think of Julian Baker's cover of Jawbreaker's accident-prone. Her choice to play at a piano paired with her voice really drive home what a brilliant lyricist Blake is.

For me, that poetry is a bit lost by the crunchy guitars, drawing bass, and drums that build. Julian really stripped it all away and laid it bare in such an undeniable way that I'll never hear Jawbreaker the same again. and I'm really grateful for that. Thanks for taking the time. We'll have the show. Trevor, what's your favorite cover song? Okay. I mean, I like that question.

I think that Julian Baker cover of Axenprone is incredible. Really does something different with the song, which I love. I guess the first thing that comes to mind for me is Tim Presley, Whitefence, did a cover of Allison Road by the gin blossoms. It's like so different and so cool and makes the song sound like a sort of 60s power pop song in a way that's like really awesome and then you realize what a well-written song it is so I like that one. What about you, Rob?

Yeah, I'm trying to think. I mean, the first one that comes to mind is Johnny Cash covering Hurt, but that's a very, that's a very obvious answer. Yeah, none's coming to mind. I want to listen to the Allison Road, the 60s. It's really good. I'll send it to you. It's on YouTube. Please do. Brian from Lake Stevens says, thanks for the best show around.

As a geriatric millennial born in 82, I often find many of my favorite bands of the old high school days are mocked and derided as second wave alt rock hacks. As you've done an episode celebrating Third Eye Blind, an act I've spent years defending, wondering if any of the other mid to late 90s alt acts that seem like punchlines, that you ride for, do live or sponge or garbage deserve better praise in your eyes. Thank you, as always, Brian and Lake Stevens, Washington, an owner of four stabbing westward CDs. That's an important data point for stabbing westward CDs. I wouldn't put garbage in that category, just editorially. That's exactly what I said.

I was like, I'm not really sure you should be including garbage in this lineup. I'm not going to tell Shirley. Manson, you said that. No. I saw live play maybe four years ago, and you know what? It was fucking awesome. And I alone, that's a jam.

Forever. Forever jam. And Sponge, babe? Have you listened to Ploud lately? Ploud's a good song. Plout is a fucking banger. It's gonna knock your socks off. So is the second record wax ecstatic by Spunge?

That's an excellent song. Sponge got some jams. Molly, 16 Candle, seen you naked. Molly, yeah. Bath. Say all red stains on your hands. Okay, Thomas Perry.

Hey, Yossi and Rob. How did you guys meet? What's your origin story? Once 60 songs is over, would you consider doing a side-by-side podcast together all the time? Because obviously, Yassi wants a third podcast to babysit. Love both shows. Tom, we have never physically met, Yassi.

We have never met IRL. but that does not diminish the importance and quality of our relationship. That's exactly correct. We have a spiritual... We have a spiritual connection that transcends physical space. Ohio and Los Angeles. You have been my dad in many other lifetimes. I don't know.

Did you come on Vanceley first? Yes. And then I came on 60 songs. Does that sound right? Or does it the other way around? I don't remember. That's a very good. It was very close together, but you came on for DMB.

I think that I came on your show first. I think so, too. And I was like, oh, you can come to something. You do 90s rock bands. Surely you'd be a good choice. And then you were like, what about the dream? And I was like, okay. The dream was on a list of like six.

And producer Dylan flagged that one because she really likes the dream. I forget who else I said. But that was just one suggestion. Cake. Cake. They might be giants. I'm sure. I said both of those.

Are we going to start another podcast together? That's up to our boss, Sean Fentanyce. We're going to start a movie ranking podcast. Yeah. That's right. Letterman in the box. Letter man in the box. Sarah V asks, Dear Yassie, I managed to make it 24 years without ever shoplifting.

I started listening to your podcast three months ago, and now I am a thief. No music yet. just see-through crop tops from Brandy Melville. Thank you for pointing my life in the right direction. This woman is blaming you for making her steal. I think she's thanking. I think she's thanking me. I believe you read that wrong.

Right. No, exactly. And what I say to that is, hell yeah. The tone. Unlike Charles Barkley, I am a role model. And I'm proud. I'm proud to shepherd the youth into. shoplifting,

Brandy Malibald crop tops. You go, girl. Okay, go on. Sorry. Okay. All right. My question for you both is, can you please recommend some music that is happy but still introspective and good?

I am listening to too much depressing music because I'm having trouble finding happy music. As interesting, if that's too vague, what music do you put on in the car that makes you feel like everything is right instead of making you silently weep while driving to work? Much love from the woman you have driven. driven into a life of crime, Sarah. P.S. Hi, Rob. Thank you for rekindling my love of whole.

I feel crazier every day. I think there's no full albums that are 100% happy, really, that are good. So I think you're going to have to put your playlisting skills to the test and just pluck some what I like. Be married. Exactly. Because tomorrow we die, babe. A little naive melody, throw that on there. There's a lot of like sort of bittersweet, beautiful, happy, uplifting songs.

Just, you know, find the songs that speak to you and make yourself, you need this playlist for times of trouble. It's a good men TB playlist to also answer the above question. To return to the topic of mentee bees, yes. Alice S. asks, hi, Yasi, hi Rob. So first of all, as a Gen Z girl. I must say thank you for helping me have something to talk about with my Gen X coworkers and also for getting me obsessed with the Sundays. Anyways, though, I've been working my way through all the books mentioned in The Cure episodes

and I'm almost done so I wanted to ask what your favorite books are, what you are currently reading. Thanks, smiley face, Alice, 20 years old, Syracuse. Oh, this is a nice question. Are you on good reads? I'm not on good readers. that I don't believe in these ranking things, just mutants on there, just hurting people's feelings.

Also, like, I don't think Al-Ber Camus needs me to go on and give four stars to The Stranger. Do you know what I mean? That's right. The plague is underrated. Yeah, okay. But, you know, when I was in high school,

my favorite book was The Stranger by Al-Ber Camus because I am the worst. You've probably read that since, obviously, that's heavily mentioned in the case. your episode killing an Arab, et cetera. Yes. I love Somerset mom. That's right. W. Somerset mom, particularly the Razors Edge. I think that's a really good book for a young person in particular. It's a very beautiful, profound meditation on what life is really about. There's also a movie with Bill Murray. Have you ever seen that? It's quite good. I love the Sheila Heady book. How Should a Person Be?

That's one of my favorite books. Clarice Luspector is one of my favorite writer. She is Brazilian. I just read one of hers that I was now my favorite. It's called an apprenticeship or the book of pleasures. I think you would like that one. All of her books are great. They're like Aqua Viva is great. And then there's also this amazing book of email correspondence, email correspondence between Kathy Acker and McKenzie Wark and it's called I'm So Into You that I really like. Hmm. There's probably more, but those are the ones that I could think of. Alice. enjoy. Hal Kramer asks, I'm a very grateful fan of both of your bodies of work.

Thanks for being relatable, smart, funny, and insightful. You're welcome, Hal. Thank you. A few questions, feel free to answer even just one, parentheses or none. I'm not in charge. That's correct. If both of you had to guest host the others podcast and cover a band song person yet to be done, Yasi, what's your favorite song to explain the 90s or what's your song to explain the 90s and why?

And Rob, which band would you explain? and why? Hmm. Hmm. I mean, this is really tough because I already did two of my, like, most faves with Dave Matthews and Hall, but I have been pestering Rob to let me do Goo Goo Goo Dolls. You did? Yeah.

Because I love Goo Goo Goo Dolls. I don't know that they explain the 90s per se, but. And every time you relate the plot of the movie. Yes. It's about an angel named Seth. It's about an angel named Seth. Yeah. That's right.

Seth. that's very important that his name is Seth. Iris. Okay. What about you, Rob? Now that you've done the dream and also the dream. You too and talking heads. And smashing pumpkins.

You wanted to, and smashing pumpkins. Yeah, you're the Alec Baldwin. I think about guided by voices every so often, possibly because it's so comically, like, absurd the notion of trying to do this to them. Like, we would, we would die, right? We would actually die. We have to do the thing that I said, which is we have to do it unbroken. We have to do a 24-hour long, unbroken podcasting telephone.

Okay. So we would die. There we go. We would raise a lot of money. We can sit here, eat Cincinnati chili and talk about guided by voices for 30 hours straight for some kind of worthy cause. I'm in. I say yes. Congratulations, Yossi Salick.

Would you say I've been keeping up the good work? I was going, God damn it. I was going to say keep up the good work. You stole my line. I'm very angry about that, but congratulations on 100 episodes. It's been an honor. May you do 100 more if you want. If you don't, then don't.

But I hope that you do. And this has been great. We're doing 100 more just unguided by a voice. I'm coming to your house. That's right. Thanks, Rob, for doing this with me. Thank you. Anytime.

Come back next week for the 101st episode of Bandsplain. Goodbye. If you liked what you heard today, subscribe for more episodes of Bandsplain. Our guest today was producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupert, and also Rob Harvilla. You can find them both on Twitter,

at Dylan Rupert and at Harvilla, respectively. This episode was produced by Jesse Miller Gordon and edited by Adrian Bridges, with help from Justin Sales. Executive producers for bands playing are Gina Delvec and me, Yossi Salick. A heartfelt thank you to all the listeners who tune in every week, and especially to everyone who wrote us a question for this episode. I'm sorry we couldn't get to them all.

Our gorgeous and catchy theme song was composed and performed by Bethany Cozantino and Jennifer Clayman and graciously recorded by Carlos Delagas in Los Angeles, California. Special thanks to our producer emeritus, producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupert, and also Casey Simonson, Michael Hardman, Robert Hadler, Leah Edwards, David McDonough, Dana Mearsen, Jessica Hopper, and, honestly, the Wayback Machine, babe. Come back every Thursday for a new episode of Bandsblane on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. The duration of the filming. Oh, sorry.

Wow. You've been out of the game for some time. The only game. Out of the game. I've recorded one podcast. Didn't even know to silence your cellular telephone for this important talk. It's