Bandsplain - 24 Question Party People: Blu DeTiger

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

Blu DeTiger comes by the show to talk about her new album, 'All I Ever Want Is Everything'; looking up to Bernard Edwards of Chic; being a new 'Grey’s Anatomy' fan; going to Burning Man as a child; and which pop star truly puts on the greatest live show. All that and more this week on '24 Question Party People.' Host: Yasi SalekGuest: Blu DeTigerProducer: Jesse Miller-GordonAssociate Producer: Chris SuttonAdditional Production Supervision: Justin SaylesTheme Song: Hether Fortune Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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24 question party people. Hello and welcome to 24 question party people. I am your host, Yossi Salek. This is a show where I invite an interesting person on for a little talk. I ask the same 23 questions every time, more or less, plus one wild card. I guess is allowed to skip one question. Sometimes the questions change a little. Get with the program, babe.

Get with it. Get on board. I often do come on here and say that I'll keep this short and then talk for like eight to ten full minutes. I'm aware. I know. I know how I be. But today I am actually uncharacteristically at a loss for words, not really my energy, usually. But I just don't have a lot to say lately over here. It's just Google Doc, meal prep to be like my lobotomy icon, Nara Smith, keep puppy alive, watch my TV show about the illiterate detective in Atlanta. A really great show. Eat Hot Chip and Lie.

What else? I've also been listening to, like, a lot of temple of the dog. Everything is fine. One other thing that is keeping me alive besides Will Trent, my illiterate detective in Atlanta, and I'm going hungry, going hungry. I'll tell you what, the puppy does not like it when I do any better voice. But anyways, besides those things, one thing keeping me alive and hearty is the blood of 26-year-olds. Or if not the blood of 26-year-olds, at least the fact that. that 26-year-olds, any 26-year-olds, listen to my show and maybe even think I'm a little bit cool,

even in my, all right, grandma, let's get you to bed era. So that is really sustaining me. Speaking of 26-year-olds, one very cool and talented 26-year-old actually came on this year program this week, FDR fireside chat vibes. My guest today is Blue to Tiger, who I had so much fun talking to, and his new album, All I Want is Everything, which is out soon, is really fucking good, you guys. If you're like a baseline girly like myself and you like ESG and Delta 5, which if you don't, I don't know, check your head bit. And like left of center pop bangers, this album is definitely for you. Blue is really interesting, had an insane childhood, just gorgeous and awesome and all the things. things and I am blessed to know her, even though I still do think I shouldn't know this many 26-year-olds.

Like, I think I should know way less. Here's my talk with Blue to Tiger. 24-4-1-1-8-4-1. You guys, what a fucking, honestly, a blessing and a delight and a treat that I have Blue to Tiger on the podcast with me today. Hi, Blue. What's up? Hi. Thanks for having me.

Oh, my God. You're welcome. How are you doing? Are you in New York? Yeah, I'm in New York. I just got here. I just got here last night. Do you live in both places? Yeah. I'm a bi-coastal. I am pretty bi-coastal, yeah. I am pretty bi-coastal. Yeah, I go back and forth. I have a place in L.A. and then my family's in New York, so I just go back and forth and stay with the fam when I'm here. So it's pretty good setup. And you didn't turn out super weird. I don't think so. I think like just weird enough, you know? Like a good amount of weird. Like a good amount of weird. Like weird is. cool. So it was like the perfect amount, I think. Do you feel like you're like real street smart and savvy?

Honestly, I honestly like no. I'm so bad at directions. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. I still look stuff up in New York on Google Maps. I can't walk anywhere without Google Maps. It's really bad. People make fun of me for it all the time. And I'll just cross the street. Like I don't even look like it's really bad. Like if I die, it's because I'm getting hit by a car. Like I just like cross. I'm like the cards will stop for me. It's fine. Like I just be crossing streets. I just be crossing streets. I just be crossing street. streets without really looking. So it's pretty, yeah, so I'd say I'm not really street smart, but I was like, I was very book smart. Like I was, I was very book smart, but not like, you know. No, I'm the exact same. It took me like a really, like unusually long time to

learn how to pump gas as a teenager. Meanwhile, I can't, I don't even know to do that. Because I can't drive because of New York. Sure, sure. But you get that excuse. You get that excuse. People are always like, oh, I'm from New York. I can't drive. And you're like, okay, well, eventually, it might be nice for you to learn. if you want it. Pumping gas seems hard. Babe, it was. I could not get it. I'm in like five AP classes and I'm like, this is really complicated. I felt like a rain man or something. That's what's so crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy. When you feel so competent and like all this other stuff and then there's like the simplest thing

that you can't do. It feels so weird. Babe, to this day, I'm like, how does the phone work? I don't know. None of my business. You know, electricity. I still don't understand it. Yeah, literally. It's really not anything I need to know about. I just want to give a quick shout out to my dear, dear friend, Dana De Tiger, who is your I love Dana. I love Dana. Isn't it weird? She told me you call her Dana to Tiger, and I love that.

Yeah, your whole team is named De Tiger. Sam De Tiger, who does your booking. Sam De Tiger. Yeah. It's a good crew. It's a good family. It's a good fan. We got going on.

Yeah, shout out Dana. It's such a good name. And don't take this the wrong way. It just works better with Dana because Dana De Tiger has that beautiful alliteration. I think she should change your name. I honestly think she should too. I think that would be cool. I'm going to tell her after this.

Get on this. Legally change. Legally changes. Is your first name the full thing is blue, B-L-U, just three letters, nothing else? Not short for anything? Just blue, yeah. Do you have a middle name? No.

Are your parents kind of like hippie? Are your parents like my age? How old are you? Yeah. No, my parents, yeah, my parents are definitely hippies. They like lived in a visa. and like took us to Burning Man when we were young. Like I've told this story a few times, but like, yeah, they took us to Burning Man.

But I have two brothers. So my older brother's named Rex and then my younger brother's named Luke L-U-C, so it's all three letters. Yeah, but they got kind of normal names. I know. Well, Rex is like a little weird, but Luke got the normal one. But yeah, they're like hippies and my dad's a painter and artist. So they're kind of like, you know, artsy. I feel like taking your kids to Burning Man as like borderline child abuse.

like I should retroactively call child protection services. No, it was actually lit. It was actually lit. But this was also the, this was, this was like back in the day, you know? So it wasn't as, now it's very like, influencery and like, the biggest DJs. It was very like more underground. Jeff Bezos wasn't there. Yeah, like all the like, you know, all the like business people go now.

Yeah. In their 50s, like as like a midlife, you know, that type thing. And then, yeah, but when we were there, it was like, it was cool because it was, it was just about the art, you know? Sure. It was just about the music. It was just about the music. It was about the art, man. Just about the found object sculptures that were made with like tin from the fucking dump or whatever. Yeah, it was just exactly. Exactly. It was just about the like, it was just about the light up. What were they called? You know the things where you like you crack them and then it lights up? Oh sure. Glow sticks. Glow sticks. We just ran around with the glow sticks and like put them on our bikes and like biked around the desert. Burning Man for me is very much like, I'm happy for you or I'm sorry that happened, but I'm not reading all that. Do you know what I mean? It's like it's absolutely something I'm never going to find out about. And like, I don't even care. I'm glad for everyone or I'm sorry that happened. Yeah, even though I went, like, I won't really like look at people's post. You know, if people will post about it, I'm like, cool. You know, like, I went when it was like really cool. They should make their own social media platform around Burning Man that only they have to see each other's post and the rest of us can like be free of it. They should make like a Slack channel.

Yeah, exactly. A burning in Slack channel. It's so funny. Like, go ahead and post your fucking goggles and your like steampunk hat here, babe, because I honestly don't deserve to see that. I don't deserve to see that. That is so funny. I have really funny, like, cool pictures, though, with me at like nine years old there.

So I'll send them to you after. They're hilarious. That's pretty cool. I post them once a year. I post them once a year. You should. Yeah, that's a nine-year-old at Burning Man in cool outfit. with glowsticks is much cooler than like a 50-year-old man who's like taking a break from email

to get off the grid. Oh, oh, oh, oh, at Burning Man. Oh, oh, oh, oh, in the desert. Like, they always say the desert. They're like, see you in the desert. I'm like, okay, just said, literally got fucked. Your new album, first of all, I have to tell you, I relate to the title so much. It's like, I talk about this in therapy every week where I'm like, why can't I do and have all the things? Man, girl, you can. Babe, but literally, this is a beautiful 20-year-old thing to say. And then one day you're going to turn 41 and you're so tired. And you're like, that's okay.

Actually, I don't need to, you know, go to the grocery store anymore. That's fine. Someone will bring them. Or like, I don't really have ambition. All I want to do is go lay outside in the grass for two hours a day. Job? Who cares? Because you just get tired.

But you go with this as long as you can. Keep fighting the good fight. Yeah, I'm taking it. Well, the grave is here, babe. The grave is after 40 years old. I'm in it. I'm pouring the dirt onto myself. Latency, babe.

Oh, yeah. What a fucking banger. I played that like 10 times. Oh, I'm so happy you like it. I'm so happy you like it. I'm very interested in the bass guitar as an instrument. I feel like you would play bass. Oh, my God.

Thank you. I try. You're giving me you play bass on the side. That's what I'm getting. I am absolutely musically untalented. I did play bass briefly. This is a funny story, and I love to tell it because people are like,

what are you talking about? So Orville Peck, are you familiar with Elvill Peck? So he used to be my roommate. Oh, God, crazy. Yeah, that's kind of sick. Pre-Oreville times. And he's a very talented musician.

And he was like, I want to start a new band, and you look like a bass player to me and you're cool looking, you should be the bass player. And I was like, my brother in Christ, I cannot play one singular musical instrument. And he was like, it's okay, I'll teach you. So I spent months trying to learn bass guitar.

And, you know, I made a little traction, but I'll tell you what, I am not musically talented. It was so fun. But you know about music and you have good music taste. So I feel like you could do it. Sure. No, I don't know. I mean, if you're in the market for a 1979 Fender music master, it's, Short scale.

Oh, you have one? I do. It's black. It's gorgeous. Wait, from 79? I think it's 79. Yeah. Yeah.

It's really cool. I got it. I got it really cheap. Wait, that's like the big, that's... Should I sell it? You could sell that shit for like five grand or something. Actually, it depends what kind of... Wait, it's a stingray?

No. It's not a stingray. Wait, what's a stingray? Like a music man? No. No. No. Yeah.

I mean, you could still... I mean, like $1,500 bucks. Yeah, from 19, 7. any base from 79, it's like, that's the good, that was the good year. 79, 80, and 81 are like the good, or 78 through 81 are like the prime time years of like when the best bases were made, I think. Great to know if I ever take it back up. But now I get fake nails and I'm over it. Yeah, the nails thing, the nails thing is a problem.

I had a friend a long time ago who used to pick with her. Oh. With her fake nails. Yeah. I kind of, but she kept the other one short because she had to press down on the frats or whatever. That's kind of funny. just like having one hand of like... Yeah, it looked kind of crazy.

I kind of fucked with that. Yeah, you could try it. I just, I love bass lines and music. It always resonates with me. Are you familiar with the band Delta 5? Yeah, but like not I feel like you would really love it. I'm going to make you

a little playlist. Yeah, make me a plus. It was like a, kind of like a post-punk most, they had a guy in it, but it was mostly women. Kind of like the slits vibes. Was it like during ESG time? Yeah, exactly. Okay, because latency, latency is very ESG. Totally.

ESG and Delta 5 has two base players. Yeah, Delta 5 and ESG, it was like kind of the same era, right? Are they from New York? Delta 5 is from England. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, same sort of sound. Oh, yes, okay, I got to listen more.

That's the vibe, though. The post-punk, like the post-punk, like the post-disco almost. That's kind of what ESG is. It's like a mix of, it's like disco punk. It's like post-dance music. Yeah, it's sick. I want more of that. Want more of that.

Yeah. All right, Blue. Are you ready? I'm so ready. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Blue to Tiger, number one, what is your sign? Astrological sign?

I'm a Pisces. Oh, emotional. Mm-hmm. Artistic, creative, free spirit, and watery. Yeah. Do you cry a lot? I do, yeah. I do.

not like define a lot you know yeah you're like just once or twice a day yeah yeah like once it depends kind of like what circumstance what era I'm in of yeah what circumstance but I cry like a good you know I feel like everyday crying but I feel like every few weeks if I get like really overwhelmed and emotional you know I just like because I care a lot like I have a lot of passion and care for things so you know so I'll cry about that it's a great artistic placement Kirk Cobain was a Pisces also. Really? Famously, famously emotional.

No, Pisces are the best. Water sign. I love the water, love the ocean. Do you know, like you're rising in your moon? I don't. I think I'm like... Are young people not into astrology anymore? No, no, we are. We are. But, I mean, I'm not even that, you. I mean, we are. I just don't remember my... The rise. I think I'm like cancer rising or something like that. Oh, God, really emotional.

Is that crazy? I have to check my co-star. Well, cancer and Pisces are like arguably... the two most emotional signs in the entire zodiac. So to have both placements in your big three, it just makes you really emotional. Not a bad thing. I think that's a good thing for making art, you know, like connecting. Connecting to yourself. Yes, being in touch. Being in touch with the feelings. Number two, Bluta Tiger. It is 2.17 p.m. on the East Coast. What have you eaten today? I had an iced coffee this morning. I used to do, I used to do, I know, I used to, this morning, I know this morning, meaning like, I woke up really, this morning meaning at like 12, I had a nice coffee. When I'm in New York, my morning, like this is my morning, you know? Yeah, why bother to adjust to the local time? Yeah. You're just going to come back to L.A. When I'm in L.A., I'm up at like eight, nine, you know? But in New York, I'm up at, yeah, so early, it's insane. And then in New York, I'm up at like, you know, 11.

But I'm trying to switch that But yeah, I had an ice coffee this morning And then I had I love like a bowl You know, I'm like one of those An assaille bowl or like a bowl of eggs and quinoa And yeah I love like greens Like I had some greens

Some chicken Some cucumbers like sweet potato Like a little like bowl situation Healthy bowl, did you make you 12? Did you ask your mom to make it? No Oh my God it's so awesome I was staying at home because they always have food here And they're like making food. It's so awesome

But no, I just, I got it from the spot Digin in New York. The Digin. Digin. I think it's called Dig, no. It's like, you know, one of these like, you know, Chipotle. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like, a bowl restaurant. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, you know, Tripoli where they like have all the things, but it's like healthy stuff. A bold place.

My favorite thing, which I think probably still exists in New York, although I think they're dwindling when I lived in New York, which is 20 years ago, was the salad places. Which I think they kind of died out with all the tech. ender greens and the fucking sweet greens whatever. They choked. Yeah, they just had these like fucking one-off mom and pop. Dude, I love those places. 17,000 different ingredients. You just go down the line, pick whatever you want.

It was my favorite thing. I was gonna fucking fat salads. It would be like $18 because I needed, you know, to put every topping on it. Yeah, and the avocado is like $4 extra always. New York prices. Yeah. Like we don't have those here. No, I love those places.

Sweet green. Actually, sweet green I'm not like, I'm not into these days. I don't really fuck with Sweet Green TBQ-H. I find it all gross. Me too. I'm kind of over it. I found like a ladybug in my sweet-green ones. And I was like, this is not it.

But I guess I was like, oh, this is really fresh, I guess. Of all the bugs, ladybug is like the cutest one you could find. It's probably good luck. Yeah, like at least it wasn't like a cockroach or like a fucking... Oh my God, yeah. Yeah, I would have, like, sued or something. I don't know. This is really fresh.

It still has literal bugs in it. I was like, no, their salad's just really fresh. No, yeah. I don't know. I have like PTSD from Sweet Green because there's one across the street from an office I used to work at. So like I ended up having to eat it like all the time. And it was like, it felt like jail food eventually to me. I don't want this shit.

Get the, this fucking with your weird bitch don't kill my vibe. Fucking names out of my fucking face. I want to fucking die. I hate that. Don't kill my vibe. It's so classic. It's so brutal. Leave me alone, Sweigran.

Okay. Number three. Luda Tiger, have you listened to music today? And if so, what was it? I listened to one of my songs that's on my album. Nice, just to feel yourself. To refresh. Yeah, no, I...

Well, first of all, I'm starting rehearsal tomorrow for my tour, so I've been listening to a lot of my songs to relearn them. But I also was listening to it because I was, like, editing a music video to the song. The song disappearing. You were personally editing it? Me and it's a song featuring Magdalena Bay. disappearing and they're editing it. We're editing it like together. I mean, they're

kind of, yeah, together. So I was like sending notes back. And then I was listening to like some Miles Davis this morning kind of randomly. Yeah, I just have a little blue morning. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of blue and Davis. Yeah, blue and green, the best one of those songs. But honestly, I feel like

I'll just be listening to myself right now because I'm getting ready for rehearsal. Yeah. Yeah. How does it feel to listen back? Because you probably spent a long time making this album, right? So like, yeah, like years. Does your relationship change to the music now that it's kind of removed from the making of it? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I'll definitely go back and forth all the time.

I'll be like, I'll be like, this album is so sick. Like, I'll just be like, oh, my God, I can't believe I did that. And then the next day I'll be like, oh, like the mix on this song, I should have made this snare quieter. You know, like, I'm so perfectionist than like in that way. so I'll hear things where I'm like, ugh, like I wish I maybe change that in the mix or something. But that's like always going to, you know, happen.

I feel like there's songs I put out like three years ago where I'm like, oh, this one thing like bothers me. But no one else is going to hear it. You got to let it go. Yeah, you got to just, you just got to surrender, let it go. So now I'm at that point where I'm just like, all right, this is it, this is it. But, yeah, I mean, now it's changing a little bit

just because like the live show is so important to me. So I think when I get into putting the live show together, it takes on a whole life of its own. I can't believe that you can do that. Because I think people, maybe people who don't play music, myself should be included, but since I tried, one of the hardest things in the world is playing bass and singing. Because it's completely counterintuitive because it's not the melody, right? Like, it's like you're playing something so separate from what you're singing.

It's so impossible. I don't know how you guys do it. You, Esty Heim, like the few people that do that. Like, I don't know how you guys do it. I know. I even talked about this with Essie because it's such. because it's such an underrated topic. People don't talk about this enough.

It's really fucking hard. It's really, really hard. And there's only a few people that do it live or that, you know, sing lead and also play bass in the band and stuff. And it's really, really hard. So I'm glad you brought it up because people got to know. This shit is hard. How did you like, because you started playing bass just because you were like a child and you were like, I think I read an interview with you. You were like, I don't want to be.

I'm not like other girls. Yeah, literally. At like seven. You were like, I'm not, I'm not like those other girls. I'm a bass player. Yeah, literally, literally. But then he obviously got like freakishly good at it. Just like weirdly gifted child at base.

But what, like, all love and respect to bass players, but they're not usually the ones that are like, I want to write songs. What made you want to write songs? Yeah, I think I was just playing bass for a long time. And I was playing base for other people for a while too. Like, you know, being hired by other artists who were putting a band together. So I was playing a lot of other people's music,

and I was playing in some bands and kind of writing in some bands, you know, when I was like high school and music in middle school. And then I started DJing, and I was kind of doing like the DJ thing. And it just came to a point where I had kind of done everything, but put out my own songs, you know? And I think I always wanted to be an artist and always knew I wanted to put on my own music. I just didn't, you know, there was no like clear-cut path. I just kind of was like saying,

everything and just getting a lot of experience and just running around hustling in New York and meeting people and just always playing and always performing and doing the thing. And then eventually I was like, okay, I feel this need to, yeah, have my name on it and have, you know, what I want to say be put out into the world. So then, yeah, I started like learning how to produce a little bit and started writing and then the rest is history. kind of kept going. Yeah, and then I started, like, I only started singing when I was like 17 or 18, honestly, which is kind of late in the game. If you, like, I wasn't, you know, like, as a kid, like 10 years old, like singing and playing acoustic guitar writing songs. Like,

it kind of came to me like a little bit, even though it's, I guess, still early 18, but in my head it feels like later in life because I was playing bass for so long. So I kind of had to, like, find my voice, finding my voice took a little bit. Did you know that you could sing? Were you like, oh, I can sing? Or were you like, I'm going to have to figure this out? I was like, there was a point where I was like, I never want to sing. Like, I hate this. And then I was like, okay, well, I want to be an artist. So I have to do this.

I have to figure it out. And then, yeah, I just, I took lessons. And I mean, I still take lessons. I'm still, like, strengthening my voice. Just learning how to, like, match. Yeah, like, my vocal ability to my bass playing is like, you know, it's just there's like a learning curve because I was like playing bass for so much. You have a very cool voice.

It's very enjoyable to listen to. Thanks, girl. I think just, I mean, I think everyone can sing, obviously. It's just. Wow. Finding, finding, no, I'm sure you again. But finding the way how to, you know, finding how to use your voice in a unique way to express what you want to express in your songs.

That's what took me, like, you know, a second to find my kind of like vocal style, I would say. But I think I got it now. Do you build every song around the baseline? Like, is like, do you first write the baseline and then sort of build it from there? Or do you have, like, a different approach? Yeah, it usually starts with the bass and drum groove. Like, latency is a perfect example. Kind of had that.

Thanks. Yeah, I love that. I love that song. Uffi co-wrote that one too. Oh, hell yeah. Uffi co-wrote that one. Do you want to hear a really funny Uffi's story? Yeah, I love her.

I don't know her. Please send her. I feel like you guys would vibe. I feel like you guys would. I feel like she'll laugh because a long time ago, I think they're divorced, but she got married and my friend, my insane friend, this guy friend of ours was like, we're invited to Uffi's wedding. do you and our other friend want to come as our plus ones?

And I'm like, oh, sure. Like, that sounds fun. Thinking that this must be a huge wedding, if people have plus ones. It was a really intimate. Babe, it was the most fucking intimate best friends of your whole life, like family inner circle wedding. I didn't know a goddamn soul. I don't know the bride. I don't know the groom.

I felt so awkward and uncomfortable. I was like, I want to die. Why would you bring me here? Why would you bring me to this? Oh, my God. So I want to just apologize. I don't know if she probably doesn't even remember. I'm so sorry that I essentially crashed your wedding.

I was misled to think that it was some like big, huge event. And meanwhile, I'm just like literally like my back against the wall trying to like hide. Be like, I should not be here. I don't know anybody. I want to, I literally want to kill myself. Anyways, so that's the story. It's pretty epic. Uffey's wedding.

That's pretty sick. I wish I was at Uffey's wedding. I'm sick. I mean. I'm sure it's dope. I'll send this to her. She's going to love. it was for the close intimate friends and family who all knew each other and for me who was like

I'd love to go home but anyways yeah that makes sense because that song bangs if I haven't said it yet I really like it but yeah like that song a lot of other songs on the record as well started from kind of bass and drum groove and feel and then there were a few that I mean I think with this album I was trying to like push myself a little bit and the producers I was working with were trying to push me to like start songs in different ways, like start from, you know, a lyrical idea. Yeah, or start from, start from just chords and trying to make sure that the song is the best song it could be and then building around the song to make the production and, you know, the sonic world that it lives in. So, yeah, I did a little bit of that.

There's some songs where I like, yeah, I had the vocal melody and then the baseline kind of revolves around the vocal, like follows the vocal melody. So yeah, it kind of happens different ways. But usually for me, it's like the bass. isn't vibing. Like, I don't like this song. I can't. I can't connect in the same. That's your express. Yeah, that's your express. Yeah, that's your bread and butter, babe. That's, yeah, that's like the way like express when it's, like, I sing with the bass almost. So it's like it has to be. Yeah. I think that's good. I think you should lean into that because that's, that's super unique. You know, you're, you're like in your own class and like that's the best, in my opinion,

best possible things. It's like why try to be like everyone else when you have this like extremely unique, cool thing that only you are doing. Yeah, definitely don't want to be like everyone else. No, thank you. Only an own path, yeah. All right, how did we get here? Miles Davis. Okay, number four, Blue to Tiger.

What is the first song that made a meaningful impact on you as a child with your cool parents who are my age? Ooh. I remember, like, Good Times by Sheik. Oh. I know, I know. Weird. I mean, child being like, I think I was a little bit, I mean, I was, you know,

listen to music obviously for, like, since I was seven since I started playing. But I remember distinctly, so I'm sure there was other songs, of course, but I remember distinctly hearing good times, Vinyl Rogers and Sheek, and really connecting with the baseline. It's like my favorite baseline of all time. Wow. It's a good one. Yeah, it's a really good one.

It's just like conning. For sure. Yeah, no, top five. It's like probably, I think it's just the best. I don't know. It just like, it just hits. And then I really fell on. love with funk music after that. So that kind of like put me down the road of kind of like funk and soul

music and Bernard Otto went to the bass player. I was just like, I thought my one was playing and I was like really trying to emulate that. Were your parents just listening to a bunch of chic around the house? Honestly, they weren't. I kind of found it through just like, you know, bass and like if you're into the instrument and you're into a certain, you know, you kind of just. Yeah, and you're getting lessons and your teacher's like bringing you songs to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, you know, I was to like rock music when I first started and then I got into, you know, more like pop and indie stuff. And then I got into the funk and then I got into jazz. You know, it just kind of like you just go on your own little like musical journey. But they were playing a lot of, um, house music.

Your parents. Like, yeah, like Moby. Like we were listening to a lot of like Moby. Oh yeah. Your dad is a European. Yeah, my dad's from Holland. So yeah, yeah, yeah. My dad's European. Yeah. And like, as I said, they, they lived in a visa for, you know, like seven years or something. Men in pants, the whole fucking chabay. Like just painting in the mountains. And then, yeah, so I used to, you know, when we were living in New York, every summer we'd go to Abiza. So I would like listen to a lot of house music there. Like, there was this one remix of Ain't No Sunshine, but it was like the, the like Abiza, like a Visa version, like house version.

Yeah, Ibiza version. And I remember that song I was like obsessed with. I mean, there's a ton of shit. I just remember that Good Times West Sheik, that made me really. connect with like funk bass. That makes sense. And that like really, you know, transpires with everything I do. You were literally sucking in house and like funk music the way like people suck in

microplastics as a child going to be it that every summer. Like how could you have not turned out this way? Do you know? Yeah, totally. Totally. Nature versus nurture vibe here. Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Exactly. locked. Exactly. My first guitar lesson was Black by Pearl Jam and it's actually incredibly simple, but I am once again very bad at music and I was too overwhelmed. I just felt too, I was 12, so I was like too old to not care. I think seven is so perfect. Yeah, because if you're bad, it's okay. I was like so embarrassed and I was like, I hated not being good at it. I was like so ashamed and like, so I just didn't continue, right? We could be having a different conversation right now.

I could be shredding black by Pearl Jam on the guitar right now, but unfortunately. I mean, that would be pretty cool. You know, a really good bass forward song. You're doing one. Jeremy by Pearl Jam. People don't think about that, but it's predominantly the base of the year. No, Progen rocks. Thank you, Blue. I agree.

My first, this first song I learned was Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple, which is like the classic first bass line. Base song. First riff you learn. So I guess that was also a big song because I'm, remember that like you know I'm going to remember that forever that that was the first song I learned do you have a good relationship with Deep Purple still or is it just something I honestly don't I only like know I really only know that song I don't know any deep I mean that one now that you

mentioned it yeah I really only know that one no disrespect to Deep Purple and their fan yeah I mean that song rocks sure great great great great great song amazing riff yeah um all right blue tagger number five what is okay we can alter this one because I forget if anyone's like under 35, this question does not make sense. But what was the first album you bought with your own money or shoplifted with your own two hands or downloaded from the internet illegally or put on your iPod? I don't know what you would have done. Yeah, I was going to say, I guess when I was growing up, like burning CDs was a big thing.

Like it was like all iTunes, first of all iTunes. What are we like 25? Yeah, I just turned 26. So you can, you know, you don't have to play. that in the area because, you know, I'm old. But, tinsel, tinsel, yeah, you're ancient 26. Like, Dana, I'm always tell that to Dana and she's like, blue, stop, like, shut up.

Literally, I let it go. Dana to Tiger. Yeah, like, Dana to Tiger, like, I'm getting older. She's like, blue, literally chill. But, yeah, I was really into, I would, like, buy all these songs on iTunes and then download them into, like, a playlist, and then you burn it on to a CD. But when I first started playing

bass at 7, I did this program called School of Rock in New York. where every semester, every quarter, you pick a new showcase to be in, and the showcases were like Rolling Stones, Van Halen, Bowie, it was kind of all the classics, and you would choose which showcase you want, and then you would learn a bunch of songs from that artist

and then perform it at the end of the quarter. Which one did you choose? So the first one I did was Rolling Stones. So I remember, and it was like they would pick, like, the best songs Rolling Stones. So I remember I had like a, like I downloaded like the best of, Remember like best of compilations like CDs? Of course I love that shit.

So I had so many best ofs, which they should bring that shit back. Like it's rocks. They're all on Spotify. On Spotify. Yeah. It's just like you just don't really, I guess, need it the way you do it. It was the best way. Yeah.

The best way for bands to, A, get out of contracts because that counted it as an album. Wait, really? Oh, that's so sick. A lot of times they would do that because they would have like one album left on their like contract with their label and they would be like, okay, we're going to do a best of. And the label was like, that's fine because they're going to make a lot of money off of it too. Right. And they wouldn't have to do any extra work. They would just have to like compile existing songs. And maybe they would always do one new song to put on it, you know? Yeah. I mean,

it rocks. Just like skip all the, you know, skip all the boiling ones. So I knew like all the most famous Rolling Stones songs. I remember I had that CD and I would listen to that on repeat. But yeah, I love the best of. Freakishly cool for a child, but okay. All right. Just best of the roll. Stones. No big deal. Number six, Luda Tiger.

Did anyone in your childhood ever tell you, did your Ibitha, linen pants, burning man parents ever say you can't, you're never going to make it as an artist or something like that

like they do in the movies? Or anyone else. Did anyone else in your childhood ever say, pack it up, bitch, get a fucking, go to college

and, study engineering. I have a feeling no, but just in case. Honestly, yeah. I mean, honestly, no. I mean, I'm blessed to have supportive parents and supportive family. My brother plays drums and playing music. And that's like also kind of how I got into it. So very like creative and like supportive. It would have been the opposite. If you had been like actually mom and dad, I would dream of being a CPA. They would be like, no blue. You're not allowed. No child of ours. If my kids don't want to be musicians, I'm going to throw fit. I'm going to be so. They might not be. They might want to be project managers.

I know. You know, they might want to do like systems engineering. You don't know, babe. I'm going to have to get over it. I know. I guess that would be cool. You know, you got to let them shine. But they were just, yeah, my parents were just like, whatever you're passionate about, go for it. So, but I definitely, I think, I think maybe not, people wouldn't say that to me directly, but I think you can feel that. Like, especially being a girl, you can just, like, feel that energy of people being like, you're like, not good. Or, you know, you can feel that when you walk into a room with a bunch of male musicians and you're the only girl, like, you can feel that sort of, like, people looking down or people

not thinking that you're going to be good. How did you navigate that? I just practice a shit ton so that people couldn't say that, you know? Like, I think I used it. You thought, bitch, listen to this. Yeah, yeah. And then I would like, and then I would show up and shred. And then they'd be like, oh, okay.

But you have to, it's a lot of proving people. people wrong. So it was a lot of like having to prove myself. Like I feel like I always had that kind of like chip on my shoulder where I was had to walk in and be like, all right, let me like I got to like show them what's up like so they know I'm chill, you know, I'm cool, you know. Which is exhausting. It's so exhausting. Even to like this day like it's so you still kind of have to do that. You have to kind of let, you know, because there's just an automatic assumption that you don't know anything about. Oh yeah. Production or mixing or like any of that sort of like live show audio gear. Yeah, I'm sure you feel it too. Like every interview on here, I watch them come on and be like, okay, I got to talk to

this fucking girl and then have to like convert them. And I'm like, that's interesting. All these male musicians, they call themselves feminists. I look at you. You only go on fucking other men's podcasts just wondering what that's about. So feminism reentered my body. No, legit. It's like constantly proving yourself. Yeah. And like writing sessions, you know, you have to like kind of prove that you know what's up. Right. They think you're just going to be, like girl that's coming just to like be pretty and sing the like top line or whatever yeah yeah like you kind of um and i think it's changed a lot in the past two years for sure and like once you know now people i think now like people people know i'm like a real musician so it's like different but i i'm

sure that other girls feel that where maybe they're not outrightly you know show on their public persona that they're you know know how to produce and mix and all that stuff and then there's definitely that sort of just assumption that they don't know what's up. I kind of honestly love being underestimated because it's kind of cool when you just like get them, you know? Yeah, it's less work because then it's like, okay, well, whatever, you already think I fucking am at this level. So if I did anything impressive, you're going to be like, wow. No, literally.

I love watching their faces when you're like, oh, you thought bitch watching. Dude, literally, my favorite thing, as a kid, my favorite thing was I would go to a guitar center. It's a psycho that I would do this. I would go to a guitar center or some of these vintage guitar shops. And I would walk in and I would see them, just not think I was going to buy anything or not think I knew it was up.

And then I would try something and just like shred and their faces would be so... Like, I just loved it. Like, I love it. It like, fueled me. I was like, yeah, you thought wrong, bitch. Exactly. Yeah, and then there would be like,

oh, you can really play. And I'll be like, yeah, like you should, like, you know what I mean? Don't make assumptions. Yeah, don't make assumptions. Yeah, don't make the ass of you and me. But yeah, it's constantly like that. It's, yeah. I remember Gavin Rosdale came on here.

I don't remember what the exact band was, but he was like, oh, and then I was like into this band. I was like, oh, yeah, like that band's so good. And he was like, you know about that band. I was like. It's like, why not just, why did you not think I just knew? No offense, but my literal, I'm like a literal music. My whole job is explaining bands for a, like I know way probably.

Literally. No. All love and respect. Yes, I do know about that. And my new favorite. thing is getting really into like audio gear and like lighting and all that stuff. And like for my tours like yeah, like to the front of house, I'll be like, so what console are you doing? Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, the Digico. I fuck with the Digico. Yeah, I really like the inner mix on the Digico versus the S-60. Like I was like just go in and they'll be like, what the fuck. So I really like freaking people out with that. I think that's hilarious. The Digico you say. Interesting.

Oh, the Digico rocks. Yeah. If he wants the console, the Digico's where it's at for sure. Good to know. Yeah. Good to know. All right, number seven, Blueda Tiger. When was the last time you lied?

I feel like all like white lie. Or I'll like, not white lie. I don't even know what that means. I forget what is white. What is like an inoffensive, non-hurtful, not a big deal lie? Yeah, I feel like I'll do those with things where like I'll say I like something when I don't. But in like a way where I'm like, oh yeah, no, that looks really cool. But can we like do it like this or something?

And like I'll try to like soften. It's a key of managing creative process and people's egos to do that. Yeah, exactly. You can't just be like, the fuck is this. It sucks. Let's change it. So you're not going to get good stuff. Yeah.

And I would, that's just not how I would talk ever do things. But I feel like I'll, I'll do that a bunch where I'm like, yeah, like that looks like pretty good, but like maybe can, you know, so like I'll do that, which is not really line. Meanwhile, it doesn't look pretty good. And in your mind, you're like, it doesn't look good at all actually, but I need Yeah, like I always like to like compliment something. Right. It's a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go.

Yeah, like complements sandwich. Yeah. Totally. Like I always like to say parts of something that I like and then go into something that I don't. Right. You know, I love that this art is clearly visible. That's really cool. Yeah, like I love the coloring, but I think the picture is just awful.

Very needs some more. Yeah. I feel like I'll like do those little. lies. I'm pretty like honest. Okay. All right. I mean, most people, I would hope, are not crazy compulsive liars, but if they are, that's fine too. Yes.

Go off. Do your thing. No, do your thing, babe, do you? Yeah, do you? Honestly, kind of interesting when someone's a compulsive liar because you're like, why. Yeah, do people come on here and they're like, yeah, I did this crazy lie where like I told them and I love them and I don't. Like, something crazy. Like, do people come on and, like, say some crazy shit? No, I really

wish they would. I think, I think most people probably have told a shameful lie in the recent past but are not willing to publicly admit it, which I understand. But I wish they, I kind of wish they would because it would make it more fun. Yeah, it would make more interesting gossip. Yeah. I mean, lying is part of the social contract. Like, we can't get through life.

It is. It's like that movie, um, that was it like the inventing of lying. invention of lying. You see that movie? No. Is it a fictional film or is it a fictional movie where they live in a world where lying doesn't exist? And then he figure, and then one guy figures out that you can lie and then he'll just like

lie. And he'll like go to the bank and he'll be like, yeah, I have a million dollars in my bank account and he'll be like, okay, cool, like here you go. Like they just like don't, it doesn't exist. Yeah, producer Jesse just said the same thing. He was like, that I was thinking, which he said, I thought she was going to say liar liar, which is the gym. movie where he can't lie, right? Is that, oh. And everyone else, like, he's incapable of lying. So he has to tell the

truth all the time. That's an interesting premise. Okay, I want to watch you. I want to watch yours too. Yeah, watch it. All right. Number eight, what character in a book or film do you relate to the most and why? Tough one. Because I feel like book and teeth, I feel like you're only getting one side of them, you know, sometimes you're not getting the full. That's true. You know, I feel like I'm very multifaceted. But I do... I'm too complicated to be captured in one... Exactly.

I think I get Jenny Humphrey from Gossip Girl. Oh, but just because you look like her. I get that I look like her. And there's some characteristics. Like, I went to school up on the Upper East Side in New York. I went high school in Upper East Side. And I lived downtown and I was like, you know, the arts. The kids would be like, you're so artsy.

Like, you're so cool. So I was like a little bit of an outsider. that way where I was doing music, not so much in the same world, because that's like not what my school was really like, but like similarly where I was kind of like doing my thing and she kind of like does her thing. I haven't watched that show in a long time, but I remember her being one of the worst characters. Am I incorrect? I mean, she sucks. That's what I'm saying. I don't want to, you know, I'm not like like her in the way that like in the annoying parts? Are you like her in real life where she's in a band called The Pretty Reckless that plays like a warp tour and stuff?

Yeah. I mean, she's so sick. I love her. her, but I met her recently. We took a photo, and we do kind of look similar. You guys do really look like Taylor Monson was her name. Yeah. I like that she really did the band thing. Like, she's still doing it. She was like very serious about it.

She wasn't like, oh, it's just a one-off thing. She's like, actually, I don't want to act. Like, I'm a rocker. Yeah. But I just like in that show that she's, you know, from New York and she's like kind of like different with the other kids. Like I feel like that's kind of, I relate to that aspect where I was kind of like, you know, kind of in the world, but not of it kind of like doing my music thing.

and like knew I had a, you know, had a passion, but I wasn't, you know. But then the other stuff, the parts where she, like, is annoying, like, I don't feel like I'm like that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really to be annoying. I mean, actually, I'm really annoying. Actually, I relate to being annoying. Yeah, actually, I'm, like, extremely annoying. I'm, like, extremely annoying a lot of time.

But in a different way. To reconsider, I do really a lot to this. In a way that can't be captured in a show. Yeah, no, it's a certain genesis quo of annoyingness that no one has really put to film. Yeah. You're the first person to use a gossip girl character, so that's pretty cool. That's cool. Yeah, I like that.

I never finished it, the show. It gets insane. Those shows that have, like, 20 seasons just get so crazy because they have to make up. You can tell when the writers are just like, I don't have any ideas anymore, and they just, the whole thing starts going crazy. Yeah, they're like, I've literally nothing left. It gets insane. But Dan Humphrey is Gossip Girl, right? Sorry to spoiler alert a show from 25 years ago or whatever. Sorry everyone, but yeah, he is. Which was also a weird one. They definitely decided that the day before the last episode was filmed.

Yeah, they didn't know the whole time. You would think they would have known the whole time, so they would have had that in the background, but they clearly did not. Okay. Number nine, Blue to Tiger. What was your biggest sliding doors moment? As in if you had made another choice, you wouldn't be here right now. Probably choosing to play bass. choosing instead of guitar or any other instrument yeah or choosing like to do yeah

violin or even like you know art or something like like choosing drawing or something else that I was like into so probably that did you do you like

kind of looked up to him or yeah kind of I think that was part of it for sure yeah I looked up to him and he was a few years older and he was playing drums and I was kind of like

oh I want to do something too so yeah it was definitely partly because of him I don't know I think having a passion, having something you care about that, like, feels unique to you as at a young age, it's really important.

No matter what it is. Like, it could be, it could be math. It could be whatever. Like, just, I think, yeah, I think, like, having a thing that you can kind of attach to, identity-wise, just feels really, that was just, like, really helpful to me when I was growing up. Like, anything that I was going through, I was like, at least I have music. Like, at least I have something that I, like, care about or a passion about.

And, like, can kind of, like, guide me through life. Yeah. And I'm sure it, like, probably helps teach you, like commitment and discipline and like, you know, all that kind of stuff. Communication. Yeah, hard work. Communication. You're playing with other people. Yeah, a lot of stuff. If only I had stuck to playing black on the acoustic guitar,

12, that might be not a podcaster today. That's right, kids. You better if I can commit to something as a kid or you might end of a podcast. The podcasting is cool. They just commit to a kid as a podcast. It would be sick. Kids. Kids, take up podcasting as a podcasting.

seven-year-old, then you'll be the world's best podcaster by the time. You're 28. All right. Number 10, Bluita Tiger. What characteristic are you most drawn to in other people? I think people who are like interested in things. People who are, people who are, yeah, like, ask questions and are like curious, I guess, about things. No, that is such a good answer. they don't know about or do. Like I'm so curious about anything. It could be the most like thing that's that's so out of my world and out of my zone and I'll be really interested in someone's life and how they got there and what they did. Like I think that's a cool quality about someone.

I agree. I especially think right now because I do think like one of the like unpleasant side effects of social media, a decade plus of social media is that people have become really, really self-involved. Totally. It's not even like nefarious. It's just like is what has happened culturally. And so it's rare and rare to meet people that are interested in things outside of themselves.

And that actually makes you a more interesting person to be interested in things outside of yourself. Totally. More well-rounded. More well-rounded. And also just a more pleasant person to interact with, easier to connect with. Because you, we've all had these conversations where like, you're like, okay are you going to ask me a question do you know exactly exactly and I hate I hate that I hate that

I like I just yeah I need someone that wants to yeah I like people who want to yeah who want to connect and like know about yeah have like an exchange of information yeah I have actually like an exchange of information and have someone that actually cares what you're saying or what you're talking about yeah I think I don't know I think people are just interesting yeah just makes you more well round it and yeah have more like yeah have more experience you know everyone has such a interesting and crazy life and it's just like cool to know about it makes you more like yeah well rounded and easier connect to it like you said so yeah i think you just have to ask the right questions like i think people don't understand that that's it yeah every person on earth is

actually interesting like exactly just ask the right questions exactly i'm glad this is a good I'm going to go ahead and say this was the best answer to this question I've had so far. Really? Yeah, because like 90% of people say sense of humor, which is totally fair. I get that. People love a sense of humor because it's entertaining. It's easy to be around and it's not boring, you know? Yeah.

I think what you're talking about is extremely underrated. Yeah. And I think sense of humor is important. But sometimes people use sense of humor to mask their true. Like, I just like real people. I like authentic people who are. you can just like, you're like, yeah, I feel like, yeah, like they're down to earth. Like, they're cool. Like, they're dope.

You know what you mean? Sometimes for many years, I'll just put my clown makeup on, babe, go to the party. Yeah. Because I'm like, I just was like, I don't know what else to do. And then I'm like, what did I even talk about? I just did a little short stand-up for everybody. And then I had no fun at the party. I didn't connect with anyone because I was just, you know.

Yeah. And that's great. Around. No, it's not great. It's terrible. I had to like you 10 years of therapy. to undo this when I'm like, I'm not a fucking clown. I can just go and be myself and talk. I don't have to fucking entertain the whole room. My dumb jokes. No, yeah. I like, I just like realness.

Yeah, authenticity, babe. Authenticity, you know. Exactly. All right. Number 11, Pluto, Tiger. Who is the last person you met that you were star-struck by? I know you're out here. I know you're out here in Tinsletown in Hollywood, rubbing elbows, talking to pop stars, talking to actors. going to parties, big parties. Yeah, I go to a few parties. I met Taylor Swift at a party, and that was probably the biggest starstruck, because I'm a Swifty, and also she's just the most famous person. Like, I think she's more famous.

She's the most famous person of all time. I think right now. And just so on top of the world and just as a musician and, like, artists just so, you know, she's just such a person to look up to. and role model as a songwriter and blah, all of that stuff. I could go on and on. But, yeah, I met her at a party, and I just couldn't believe she was there.

Like, I just couldn't believe she was out and about. Just, like, at a, I mean, it was a small, it was a small. Was it an intimate gathering? It was kind of like an intimate gathering, but I wasn't, I didn't know she was, like, because I walked in and I was, it was right after I had been to the Ares tour, and I was talking about the Ares tour to someone at the party. I was, oh, we were just at the Ares tour in L.A.

I was like, so fucking sick. Like, wow, that shit. I was incredible. I was just going on and on about it. And they were like, you should probably like be quiet because Taylor's like right there. Like stop talking.

And I was like, oh my God. I was like freaking. Yeah, I was like freaking out. And like we didn't really, you know, we didn't really talk and like I don't even know if she knows who I am or

anything. But still, she's like, hi, I'm Taylor. And I was like, hi, I'm blue nice meet you.

And I was just like, I was like this hand touched. Just because she's just so like it's just crazy. And I'd just seen her on stage before like right before that. Like it was just kind of like a weird moment. But then, yeah, so I met her there, and then the following week, I saw her again at the same party. Wait, this is like a weekly party that you go to? It was just two weeks in a row.

I won't give out the tea. But it was just like, it was two weeks in a row. It was just like a same sort of thing, same sort of gathering. And yeah, but we didn't talk that time. No. But I was just like, oh my God, I can't believe she's like here. But, you know, I tried to keep my cool. Yeah, I'm sure you did.

I'm trying to be chill. Like, I don't want to be that person. You know, that's like, yeah. Like I would never be like, let's get a foot. Like, I would just never do that. but I didn't want to, you know, I was like, not an intimate gathering. Yeah, I was like, let's get a photo. Oh my God, no.

Oh, my God, that's the worst thing you could do. But I was just like, I don't want to go too crazy. Like, I was like, this is good for me. Like, this is just like shaking her hand is enough for me to like, yeah. And then the next time maybe she'll like remember my face or even if she doesn't in Socha, like, whatever. The Erez tour was so fucking good. Oh, my God. Incredible. The best.

And her, her and her musical director is also my musical director. Oh, incredible. So you have a little concept. Yeah, and like her guitar player also MDs for me sometimes. And I know her bass player because we like chat on the internet and stuff. Amos. Oh, no, Amos. I was talking about the guitar player.

One of them is named Max. Yeah, Max. Max for Max. Yeah, first scene. Oh, my God. You know Max. Yeah. Shout out.

What a king. What a king. He's so good. And he'll run some rehearsals for me in musical direct. for me as well sometimes along with David Focke who's Taylor's empty and he's just like he's just so good and we went to the same high school in New York actually

Oh really? Yeah like years years apart but like we went to the same I met him so randomly because he played I did for my other show for bands playing We did like a live show for the episode about Fountains of Wayne and Max Collins from Eve 6 was the guest and he put together like

a Fountains of Wayne cover band and Max Bernstein played in it and so that's why I met him and he was like I just had a lot of it and he was like I just have to leave right after the event because I have to fly to take a red eye to New York because Taylor's playing S&L. I was like, oh my God, so sick. Gorge.

Just so like casual. He didn't say, he didn't say why because I think he had an NDA, but I would, but I would like, they never like talk about it. I always like, in rehearsal, I'd be like, wait, but what would like Taylor do in this situation? He's like, blue. Like, I'm not. I like, babe.

I like my job. Yeah, he's like, yeah. Because I, yeah. I'm a family. Yeah. But that was pretty surreal. Just being in the same room as someone that iconic. I met her like maybe 10 years ago.

Still was crazy because she was still Taylor's up, but it wasn't like this level at Esty Hymes' birthday party. And I was like, oh. That's sick. That's cool. You're at Estyheim's birthday. That's sick. I love Esty.

I've known Hymn girls for a long time. Yeah. Just like L.A. stuff. Like they were, they're all so awesome. They're so cool. They like DJed for me for like, I used to have a blog, a music blog. I had like a one year anniversary at the Chachaw Lounge and they DJed it for me. I don't know if Alana was there

because I think she couldn't get into bars yet but I'm pretty sure Danielle and Esti did. Yeah, I love them. They're so awesome. Greatestr. So happy for them. But yeah, Arestro was amazing and I went with my friend who I always think that you and her look so much alike.

Do you know who Nikki Takesh is? No. Oh, my God, I have to send you a picture. You guys look so much alike to me. Both iconic beauties. Oh, thanks. You're welcome. Yeah, send me a pick.

I will. okay let's see back to my doc I got all side railed by Taylor I was thinking about the arrow is the best night of my life I went in Vegas Oh that's probably so sick because me and Nikki were like we can't wait Like we can't wait till LA Yeah yeah yeah

The LA one was good because the L.A. was so far I was so sick Yeah but it's cool to go to like a different Like my brother went to the sofa one with me And then he also went to Pittsburgh And he was like the Pittsburgh one was sick Because it's just like a different I don't know L.A is so L.A like it just always feels different Vegas was just so, it was just like, we made a little adventure out on the way there.

We had a playlist. And I was like, I think White Horse is going to be the secret song. Oh, nice. Yeah. And it was so, wait, that's sick that you called. I called it. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I wanted it. Swift Nation. You got to tell Taylor Nation that because that's crazy. But yeah, I just, she's amazing. Anyways. Everyone's like, wow. Not you guys. I know.

I mean, I could go on and on. Yes. We will, babe. Where Swift is. But like being in the same room as like, I mean, come on. That's insane. Rarified Arab, I know. And I kept my cool when I was chill. So I'm proud of myself for that. There's nothing. There's nothing you can't do. There's literally nothing. You can't do anything around. Like I'm just like, I just exist over there and I'll just be over here. And like, I just like, I just like, I just want to like be in the same room. We've, I've talked about this on the show, but I don't get starstruck by like that kind of person.

Not because they're not extremely famous, but for whatever reason, I'm like, oh, cool. Like, great. I get really starstruck by like. actors that are on my TV shows that by the way are not big like I watch like the most like run of the mill ABC prime time like shit that nobody wants like I still watch Grey's Anatomy. Oh wait I watch Grey's Anatomy. I literally I would get starstruck by okay what I found out recently. Okay so I started watching Grey's Anatomy this year like over the summer I'm on season. Welcome to welcome to the team. I'm literally on season 15 because I was like I need a new binge watching show. I'm obsessed. I'm trying to catch it.

Well, oh, season 20 just came out, which is insane. But I recently... I know. I'm fully caught up. I'm fully caught up. I feel like I know what happens because, like, there's just so many spoilers. But I'm on season 15. The only episode that I skipped was one that Derek died. Not to spoil it for anyone.

Babe, I had to stop watching for six months after he died. Yeah, I couldn't do it. I took a break. I was like, actually fuck you guys. I can't deal with this. How did you dare you did this to me? That was fucked up. They should have just, they should have just made

him like, I just don't fuck with that whole storyline, but whatever. But I recently found out that one of the one of the, I think, Amelia Shepard follows me on Instagram. And I was like, wait, this is like the coolest thing ever. Is that huge? Major. That's like insane. Is that kind of crazy?

Yeah. We need to become friends with her. Okay. I know. I should DM her and be like, I talked about you. Okay, I'm going to tell her that I talked about her. She's good. Honestly, one of the best characters. One of the best characters. She's very, very good. Her storyline is incredible. She's a great actress. I think her name is Katarina Scorsese.

Oh my God. You're so in it. I'm probably but I think that's... You should follow her and I'll start a group chat. But she's so cool. And I was like, oh my God. It's weird when someone you watch on TV like knows your music or something. It just feels like so far apart. But like... This happens to me all the time now. Not that I'm like you level or whatever, but like people who I listen to as like a teen will like learn about bandsplain and like follow me and I'm like, oh my God. Benjamin Gibbard

is my DMs me as my friend now. Death Camp for a cutie. The guy from Better Than Ezra liked my Instagram post the other day. These are things that for me are a big deal. But yeah, those are the only people I get starstruck by is like people. So you'd be star struck by like Ellen Pompeo or whatever. Oh, beyond.

Babe, one time, this is, I've told this around the show, but I just have to tell you because you're ahead. So this is, again, a long time ago. I probably, this probably wouldn't have happened. now because he's become so famous. But I was, God, this is at least like 12 or 13 years ago. So, but I was at a party at the chateau. Sick.

Like every sweet or whatever. Yeah. That's right. Casual, casual, babe. And I'm a little drunk. I've had a few drinkies. And I'm talking to this guy. We, like, are introduced.

And I go, oh, my God. I know you. Like, where did we meet? One of those. Okay. Where did we meet? It's killing me. God bless his soul, so gracious.

He was like, yeah. You look familiar too. I don't know. I can't place it. Okay, whatever. And I won't let it go, but also like I can't figure it out. I get home. I go to sleep. I bolt up in bed at four in the morning and I'm like, Dr. Jackson Avery. Stop. No, not someone I knew, babe. My TV friend that I, and instead of him being like, no, actually, I'm on television, we don't know each other. He's a good character as well. I'm so nice. I don't know. But I was so embarrassed after That's kind of sick to be like, wait, you look so familiar. And they're like, yeah, I'm literally on TV.

That happens. And then it's so rude. If you think about it, it's so rude. Because you're basically being like, you're famous, but not enough that I remember that you're famous. You're just like memorable enough that I think I know. Yeah, it's a little bit awkward. If people, yeah. Don't do that, you guys.

If you're, keep it inside of your mind. But Grace Anatomy rocks. I think it's so good. I watch it like every night before it goes. And I used to be really scared of like the blood stuff. And now I don't, I feel like I could be a surgeon. No, you could totally. be a surgeon. I feel like I am a doctor because I watch so much great anatomy. I'm a medical doctor.

Yeah. If someone came to a chest pains, I'll be like, do you have this? I'll be like, get to a drip of this. Yeah. What's, yeah. I'll be like, yeah. Let's get you a fucking echocardiogram right now. It's getting an ultrasound stat. Yeah, this is great. You and Blancho. You're my little group now. Oh, does she watch, does she watch Grace too? Oh, yeah. She's a big head. We also went to the same high school. Oh, weird. Yeah, weird. Isn't that so random? Yeah, very random. But yeah, you guys both started watching it, like, in the last year. I've been watching since day one.

That's crazy. I have to, I have to text her about that because we have so much to discuss. Please do. Because season 20 is about to come out and, like, I got to catch up. Babe, I need you guys to catch up so we can be watching in real time. I know, I just hate when the characters die. It really depresses me. Like, just send them off.

You're watching the wrong show. I know. They're always, they all die. It's so annoying. There's plane crash. The plane crash. The plane crash is so, shooting up the hospital. I actually had to skip that one too because that one was like a little too.

It's triggering. That one was like too fucked. I was like, that's like too scary for me. But the amount of things that happen

in these people's live where it's like if one of those things happened to you. I'm like, how was Meredith's Gray still stand? I would be like

literally fucked up for life. Almost drowned. Her husband, her sister, her dad's wife, her dad,

like her best friend moved up. Like just so like. Christina Yang. I miss her every day. Oh man. I miss her so much. She has to come back.

Yeah. And George. I can't even talk about George. Can't even get me a start on George. That's face. His face came off. That was insane. That was crazy.

His face came off. They didn't know it was hip. That was so sad. I know. Who wrote that? How dare you? You're going to hell. I know.

You're going to fucking hell. The Hague for you. So rude. Okay. Number 12, Blue to Tiger. When was the last time you slid into someone's DMs? Ooh, I'd be sliding.

I'd be sliding. But it's always like business, like work. Like, I'll be like, You're networking. Yeah, you're networking. Actually, I was, because I'm going on tour soon, so I'm finding an opener for my tour. So sometimes I like to just. Okay, I'll do it, Blue.

Hit them. All you have to do is us. Yeah. I'll do it. I wanted to have like a stand. I wanted to have like a comedian. You should come and do stand up. Oh my God. I'm only going to come.

Would you do that? I can play Black by Pearl Jamper. That would be a special guest. Sometimes I bring up, sometimes I bring up people from the audience to play bass at every show. So you should come up and play bass. All right. We'll talk to Sam. to Tiger about the special LA show where I come up and do a little bit.

That'd be kind of iconic. That was sick. But yeah, I was like sliding into someone, a few people's DMs just being like, hey, like, we're going on tour. Like, would you be interested in opening type thing? So, that's a great deal. Sometimes I feel like it's nice to just hear from the person directly versus the team. And like also, you know. I feel so good. Yeah, and like go through the teams. You know, that's all cool for like the details. But sometimes I like just getting a sense of like where someone's at by just hitting them. Yeah. Then you, then you like build a little relay-ish. Yeah. And like maybe like, They're like, oh, no, I'm not available.

And then I'm like, okay, cool. Then I don't have to like go through the whole teams. And yeah, yeah, waste like Sam to Tiger's time. Sam to Tiger's time. emailing everyone. Okay. Number 13, Blue to Tiger. What is the horniest song ever in your personal opinion?

Oh, that's a good one. Okay, lokey, there's this, um, another Beezza song. Um, there's a remix of Donna Summer's Love to Love Me, Baby. Babe, you know what's so insane? Can I tell you something so insane? Yeah. My arm hair is standing up. Someone just yesterday or the day before DM'd me to be like,

they had put it in their Instagram story and they were like, Yossi always asks this question on our podcast and no one has said this song. And now you're saying it. That's wild. But the remix. Yeah, she moaned. Yeah, she moans the whole time. Yes.

That is so crazy. Okay. I got to, I got to slide into that person's DMs and be like, yo, we're on the same way. But that song. I think I lost the, I lost the, I lost the DM, but we'll post it. When I post this interview, I'll be like, one of you guys said this, like, get in touch. You're psychic.

Donna Somer loved to you, baby. It's like 20 minutes long or something, or 10 minutes long. And it's the song, which is amazing, first of all incredible. And then there's like a breakdown where she just moans from minutes. Yeah, for like minutes and minutes, minutes and minutes. And that was pretty. Do you think it was method? Like, do you think that she was like in coitus to get the real sound?

or do you think she's just a really good actress? I think she's just a good actress. I think she was just because you're in the studio. You know, you have to be on a mic for that show. Like, I think she's just, I mean, have you seen that scene? Have you seen that scene in The Idol? You watch The Idol? I did not.

I'm so sorry. I was really busy watching my programs, Grey's Anatomy. Yeah. The rookie, which is a copaganda show I recently got into. And Will Trent, which is about a detective in Atlanta who can't read. These are the kinds of shows I watch, babe. And everyone's like, so you up up, you. up on the idol and I'm like, I don't know, her baby,

euphoria, never seen it. Like, sorry. No, euphoria's good though. You should watch you for. I believe you guys. It's not because I don't think it's good. It's because I'm busy watching Will Trent, the detective who can't read and adopt it a Chihuahua.

Anyways, there's a scene in the idol where Lily Rose's that up in the weekend or like, you know, he's like touching her and shit. I don't want to get into it. To make her orgasm on the track. Yeah, on the, on the mic.

Well, while people are there in the room and everyone's like, what the fuck is going on. But I don't think that was the situation with Domney's and this song. There's famously a Guns and Roses song. My producer Chris always knows this, but he's not here right now.

Anyways, there literally is people having sex recorded. Sick. On it. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. Anyways, if you guys...

But yeah, I think that song, the remix. That's one. The remix. The remix. I feel, you know... The extended cut, whatever it is. This made me feel that I'm on God's right path you saying this because sometimes that's like that co those synchronicities they mean that's

kind of insane yeah i know right that's a sliding that's a sliding door right there's a sliding door it was yesterday or the day before it's so wild that is so weird yeah i'm surprised no one said that actually because i feel like i mean i guess it's a deep cut i guess i don't know i feel like 80% of people say prints songs which is correct always it's always correct yeah that's correct i mean i was that would be like my second there's so many songs and then sometimes people just pull a random one out, which I love. I think two people have said death tones, which is also totally correct. That's a different genre, corny.

But what print song do people say? Every print song. Every print song is horny. So you could name a print song. Throw it at the, it's, it will work. Yeah, true. 24. Okay.

Number 14. Blue to Tiger. What is the biggest money you've ever turned down? You and Sam to Tiger or you and... Oh, biggest money? Manager to Tiger. Oh, my God. I'd be saying yes to like everything.

Biggest money. I feel like I'll say yes to like anything. Biggest money I've turned down. You're like, ISIS Airlines. That's the one of us. I don't know why that's the only one that comes to my mind. Like, I need to think of a new joke here, but that's all that comes. Is this airlines.

I actually don't think I've had anything where I've been like, no, I really don't want to do that. You are past the air. of selling out. So for your generation, that doesn't exist. Yeah. I kind of think so, right? Because I feel like I'll do brand deals and stuff and my fans will be like, get that back, sis. Like, they're into it. I think. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like that people get it. Yeah, I don't believe it's a thing anymore. But maybe I slightly sense, or maybe it's just me personally. I'm starting to go back there where I'm starting to feel a little bit like I'm bringing back

the dream of the 90s, which is like selling out and and being green. green and pro choice, but not that being pro choice is a 90s thing, everyone should be pro choice. Artists need to make money. Yeah, people were out talking about how streaming doesn't get you money, you know, like TikTok doesn't make you, like, you could have a million streams and it's still so hard to go on tour. Like, touring is so expensive and just... Totally. It's just not how it used to be where you could just make money putting out CDs, you know?

Yeah, it's just so not the same. So I feel like people get it. I mean, at least I hope people understand, like, if I do like a... I do think it's like good to be, principled where like you're like I don't believe in the politics of. No, of course. If they're like an egregious but like

most corporations are the same. Yeah, of course. If it was like you know like a Trump thing like like like obviously I'm not going to go like DJ at Trump's party like you know what I mean like just of course like if it's something that's if it's something that's you know like. I'm crying.

But I don't think like I don't even think I don't even think like you're not going to go to like Ron DeSantis's fucking white party in Miami and get on the ones. But I feel like those, I feel like those opportunities wouldn't even get to me. You know, I like, I feel like my team at least, or like Sam would be like, no, like we're not.

You know, like I feel like. They even do that. I'm like Rihanna got paid what, like six million, something old. Yo, shout out. It was a lot more than six million, right? I would do that shit. It was like some wedding. Was it a prince?

Was it a prince? Yeah, I mean, I would do that. I mean, I love the private events. Like, I mean, you just got to support. You got to. Our billionaires are evil. So whatever. you did, whatever that money

that they gave you has blood on it. But get that bag, sis. Yeah, I just feel like people get, it's like if I don't do it, I couldn't put on a good show. If I don't try to like make some other avenues or like do some private events. If I don't do this Verizon Wireless ad

Yeah, like I wouldn't be able to put it. Yeah, and I love, I like, I like the brands like and I think they're actually like better at it always, at least the stuff I've done, it doesn't feel like so far off from like my. personal. What's your favorite brand that you've done a promotional campaign for? Well, we'll fender. I do a bunch of stuff with Fender. And that makes sense. And I'm like, yes, like I love it. Like anything. Like we did a big, like I was in their campaign for like one of

their new faces. And we like clap. We have a lot of stuff. Yeah, that's really cool. Dana will tell you. But yeah, I mean, I think that stuff is really fun. I did like, the one thing that was funny that people were like, blue what was I did like a Toyota thing. Hell yeah. Toyota's a great car. No, sick, but I can't drive. Like, I failed my driving test three times. Okay, so a little inauthentic of you. So it was like, but then I was thinking about it.

I was like, but it kind of is authentic because not everyone is driving. People are sitting in the passenger. Yeah, you're like, babe, I ride in cars. Yeah, people's parents are driving. People are Uber. Like, it wasn't that crazy. So usually the thing, I do a lot of stuff with Bose and I love Bose because I wear the headphones all the time.

Yeah. Like, I only tried, like, truly do stuff that I actually use. products and like the products. Do you get influencer shit a lot? Do they like send you stuff that you have to like make a video of yourself opening on the Instagram or whatever? TikTok, whatever. Yeah, but like I love that.

I mean, I think it's amazing. Like, it's so cool. I think that's sick that I'm like at a place where I can get free stuff. Anytime anyone sends me anything for free, doesn't happen to me that often because I don't really occupy the place. I'm obsessed. I love it. Yeah, I'm like this Canadian brand, I think it's called La Seltzer.

Oh my God, I should get that right because I want them to send me more. They sent me a palette of seltzer, and it's so fucking good. And I was so grateful. And it's like, if you guys are listening out there, brands, I will accept almost anything, babe. I have no, I have really no standards. And I would love to take your things, unless it has seed oils in it, or it's a nut milk or it's oat milk. I don't like that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I love any brands listening. Like, I love getting, I think it's, I mean, it helps, like, support the art. We're just shilling. We're shilling for free things. But I will make a 10-minute unbox. Yeah, but like clothes, makeup. I use all that stuff, like skincare. Like I use all that stuff.

Docs. Like, I'd be wearing some, like, I wear docs all the time. Me and Blue to Tiger would love some. Selena Gomez's makeup line if you guys are listening. Oh, my God. I would love Rare. I really want to try it. I want to try it.

I want to try the Haley Beaver stuff. Yeah, Haley Bieber, if you're listening, I know you listen to the pod. Send us some stuff. Yeah, send us some stuff. All right. Number 15, Blue to Tiger. the best live show you've ever seen? Taylor. I know we talked a lot about her. I know. We talked a lot of her. Okay, honestly, Ares tour, yes. And maybe this is like insane to say.

But the 1989 tour was the first time I saw her live. Sorry to be talking about Taylor so much. But that was the first time I saw her live. And it was, of course, the air store is incredible. Like, of course, like best show on earth. But for me personally, I think I had such an amazing, incredible experience at that show because I was younger you know it was she was you know now she's you know peak obviously but at that point too it was also it was such a special point in her career

and I went yeah and I had floor seats I was like really close up I went with my mom it was just like special you know it was just like really cute and I swear she like looked at me you know when you're like eye contact you're like oh my god they made eye contact and they totally didn't but you think I was like in my head I was convinced I was like she looked during shake it off

she looked at me that's the mark of a really good performer because they're able to make you feel special like that. I went home that night and I was like, Taylor's my best friend. I'm like, she looked at me. Like, we are connected on another level. Like, she literally looked at me. So that show was just like, just any

show of that caliber when you're like in a big stadium or arena or whatever. And it's the dancers and the outfit. Like, it's just so, um... The production value. Yeah, the production value. Yeah, the production value. It was insane. I loved it. So that was probably the best show I've ever been to. I cried so hard at eras because... It's really emotional.

It was a very emotional. It's really emotional. It's really emotional. And also, I'm a fearless number one. And then maybe lover. Interesting. I know. I have a very strange. Nikki says I have the worst taste in Taylor songs. I just believe I'm not like other girls. And I love folklore and Evermore. Those are like, and it was very folklore ever more heavy. So I was like, I'm fucking fit living. Did I leave at midnight? You did? No way. Yeah, me and Nikki walked off. I was telling, because I was David Cook who's Kerebdy, I was texting him during the show when I was there. I thought the reputation era hit the artist. My personal

opinion. It hit so hard. Like, I think that album was great, but I was more of like a 1989 stand. I like Midnight's too, but like during the show, I was like, that era hit so hard. And the transitions, like I was texting, I was like, yo, that transition was so fire. Like

he's like, dude, I'm working. He's like, I'm trying to listen. I'm at work. No, he was like, no, he was texting back. He was like, I know that transition was sick, right? I was like, I know. But yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. This is the Taylor Swift episode of

Twemper question. And we're not ashamed. We don't care. I don't care. I'm not ashamed. Okay. Number 16, Blue to Tiger.

When in your life were you the most fucked up wasted hammered trash? Ooh. I feel like there's only one time ever where I threw up from alcohol, like ever. Because I don't, I don't like, I've like never done drugs. I don't really drink that much. Good for you. Shout out. Well, I feel like your generation, I hear this a lot, that it's just, you guys don't really drink.

It's really not a drinking generation right now, especially in, especially in L.A., I feel like, people just, there's a lot of sober people in L.A. I'm not like, you know, like, sober, sober, but I just, yeah, but I just don't, it doesn't do well for my voice. And if I'm, like, performing and I'm, like, working, like, it just, like, if I'm, like, singing, like, I'm on tour, I'm not really like. What were you doing the night that you barf? Oh, I think my. birthday, there was my, I think it was like my 24th birthday or something where I just like, I didn't even realize. Like I was just going, I don't know. It's because like, you know, on your birthday, like people are like buying you shots and drinks. And there was like a lot of people

from my label there, like buying me like drinks and shots. And I just like didn't even realize. And like, yeah, I threw up that night. And I was like confused. I was like, what's happened? I was like, why? Like what's happening? Um, but I think that was like the only time I've ever, but I wasn't even like that. I don't know. I don't know for. Yeah, I just never really, um, even when I was younger when all my. friends started drinking. I was just like, I remember in high school, I was just like not really. It's not interesting. Yeah, because I feel like when you live in New York, you're just already so stimulated by everything that it just doesn't, I don't know, never really

interested me. And then I was DJing from the young age to like 17 on in clubs. And I couldn't really, I didn't want to drink and like jeopardize my my work in the clubs because I don't want them to kick me out or something, you know? Like I had the ex- Because you were under age. I was under my age. I don't want to get in trouble. It just wasn't worth it. I was like, I want to keep doing this. And I wasn't like there to party. I was there to like actually. play music. But yeah, 24th birthday. It's honestly insane

because A, I can't relate to this at all, but B, because I throw up from drinking many, many, many times as a young person. But I used to DJ vinyl and get so drunk. I don't know how you would mix. I don't know how you would mix drunk

like that. Well, I didn't let's mix. What I'm mixing? I'm like, beat matching or whatever. I'm like, you know, I was playing like rock record. But still, even like, picking like how are you been putting it on the thing? I don't know, babe. How did I drop the fucking needle? Like so many times where I was like,

how did I even in seven inches? They're so small. That's crazy. Kudos to myself, honestly. For even, probably I fucked up so many times and I just didn't notice I was so drunk and everyone else is so drunk.

They don't care. They're like, cool. Anyways, that's not really a story. Sorry. Sorry to the listeners. Next question. Number seven. 17, Blue to Tiger and 18 are tandem questions.

What do you love the most about being famous and what do you hate the most about being famous? And don't say that you're not famous because obviously you are a level of Dr. Amelia Shepard follows you on Instagram. So that's got to mean something. That counts for something. I have to double check that she actually followed. What if she like unfollowed me recently?

I mean, I don't think I'm like famous, but I guess I understand the question. I think I like, like attention. I'm just going to say it. Just putting it out there. I like the attention. Every episode. Yeah, I like the attention. I like talking about myself.

Like, podcast. You know, I love, like, I like all of the things that come with this lifestyle. Like, I like,

I love performing. I love getting to put my music out there. I love, wearing cool outfits. Yeah, I love, like, feeling confident,

like, empowered. Like, I just love. I love this answer. are good for you. Everyone tries to like shame you if you say that you like attention or you love to perform or you love like. So why?

They're also lying. I'm sorry, they're lying. Unless you really, there's some artists who really, really don't like performing and they just like being in the studio and I totally get that as well. And I like that as well as too. But I love being on stage. And that's, I don't know. I just, I liked that part. I like that part.

Least favorite, there's sometimes when I don't like being like on camera all the time. So that's something I'm getting sick of sometimes, especially just in today's day and age where you have to post on TikTok and stuff like every single day. And it's like constantly I have to be looking at my own face. I think that part is annoying. It's a little bit like, I can't do this anymore. I even know who I am. I have no connection with my. Yeah, you get like really out of it. Dissociating. Yeah, you like forget like some it's really hard to like stay grounded when you're like constantly looking at your face and then like editing videos of yourself. and especially like me where I'm like, you know, playing bass in videos and I have to like really analyze my playing. Like there's just so much like over an analysis that I don't really enjoy that part. But I think the parts that I like about it make up for any other. Like I just like get over it.

I'm like, oh, if this video like inspires someone to pick up the base, then I can look at myself for like five minutes. It's fine. You know. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it is a lot. They really ask a lot of you guys now to like be on like every social media platform like constantly like fucking selling yourself. It's really annoying. So nuts.

Joni Mitchell didn't have to do that. Yeah, exactly. It was just such a different, such a different time. And some artists don't. Imagine if they told Joni Mitchell to make a TikTok, she'd be like, she'd be like, what? I know. And it's such a different time.

Like, there's some artists who have the ability to just go away for two years and make music and then come back. But I'm not at that point yet. I kind of believe every artist has that ability. And I think you just have to choose if you want to do it. If you kind of want to do it. It's totally up to you. Yeah, I guess that's, yeah.

If you have, like, it's like, it's like the people that want your music will find it and the people that it doesn't connect with. No amount of TikToks are going to make it connect. So, you know, I just- That's kind of true, actually. That's a good point. That's good point. That's my, that's my two cents. It's my creative direction. As someone who refuses, I keep trying to make TikToks and I'm just like, I'm, I'm too old for this. I can't do it. I like tried to film myself making a smoothie. Like, okay, here's what I put my smoothie. And I was like, I'd rather walk into the ocean with my pockets full of rocks than do this. I'm sorry. I don't want, like, in one world, I would love to be like a, a, a weird. I would love to be like a

weird TikTok influencer and get all the free shit and whatever, but I'm like, I don't have it in me. Like, I simply do not have it. It's a lot of energy. A lot. It's a lot of ring lights. Yeah, it's a lot of thing world, babe. The lighting. That's what's funny about it. It's especially being the girl, like sometimes if I'm playing based in a video, it's never the playing that's the problem. The problem. It's always the lighting, the outfit, like how my hair looks at that day, It's always something physical and it's never like the actual content of the thing, you know? You know, there's a phase of your period and I can't remember which one it is that you literally see yourself as uglier. Oh my God, I get that all the time. What phase is it?

I can't remember. We should look it up, but like, I want to say ludial. Okay, I get that all the time. I might be wrong. Don't yell at me. No, where they'll be like, I'm like this day. Like, I can't. Yeah, like you actually see yourself differently. Like you see yourself as ugly. I tell my managers, I'm like, I look bad today. I can't feel anything. I'm sorry. Like, I'll just be like I'm like I can't do it. And other people don't see it.

It's just like the hormones make you more self-critical. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. It's hard being a woman. It's fucking sucks. It's really awesome. When I'm a dumb bitch and all I have to do to make myself feel happy is go to the mall and spend $100 at Sephora and $100 at Brandy Melville and I'm cured.

And it's amazing being a woman. True. That's right. I'm a 41-year-old teenager. you'll never take that away from me. I love Brandy. Okay, number 19, this is the wildcard blue to tiger.

If you could play bass in any band in history for one tour, what band would it be and what album would you be touring? That's such a good question. Yeah, that's right. I came out with the big guns on this one. Because every time I do a bandsplain episode, I have like a mental illness where every band I do, I'm like, damn, I could have been in 1990.

94 whatever band I can't watch anything without wishing I had been part of it and I'm like yeah you wouldn't have been the fucking guitar player in Pearl Jam it just wouldn't have happened

you're first of all too young you don't not play guitar but I'm like no I would have been sick as the guitar player in Pearl Jam touring vitology no you wouldn't

what are you talking about anyway so I'm curious I was like what would Blue could actually play you could do it I mean my immediate answer was going to be

Prince but then I thought a second because he had an all girl band for a second sure no I saw him play with the all-girls. Yeah. And incredible, but then I've heard some kind of

like crazy stories. Yeah, you don't want to like, pick your makeup and yeah, he'll be like, uh, you like you fucked up this note like minus a hundred dollars. You know, like I've, he's kind of like James Brown with it. So I feel like, yeah, so I feel like I would love to play with him, but I don't know for a whole tour like

maybe that would be like a little bit. It would crush my spirits. Maybe if I like got fired or something, I don't know. Like I, he kind of like fired people a lot on the spot. So, I don't know, maybe like the talking heads or something. Hell yeah. And I would be like Tina Wayman. Yeah, yeah.

It's me blue to tiger now. Kind of take her place. I think that would be really cool. Which album though? Which Talking Heads album? Dude, I don't know. Because they have great baseline. Yeah, like all of them, I guess.

But like I would just want to play like Psycho Killer. I feel like that would be so sick. One of the top five baselines. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I feel like I would want to play Psycho Killer. But also, I feel like that I'm trying to think, because tour for me is all about, like, the crew you're with.

So, like, I'm trying to think, like, who would be the most fun to hang out with? Love and respect, but I don't think David Byrne is probably really fun. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to, like, so I'm trying to, like, my answer's, like, a little bit, you know? Maybe. So it's, like, what kind of music would you want to play, but also what kind of... No, a lot goes into this. You have to spend every day of, like, yeah, like, you want to make sure, like, the crew is super sick. I mean, the Beatles, honestly.

There you go. Because that probably was going to be, that'd be so sick. Because they were just, like, Beatlemania. It's probably so insane and so fire. Totally. And Ringo seems fun. Yeah. And I would play. I guess Paul would still be there and I would play bass and would sing.

Got it. Okay. Perfect. I feel like that'd be pretty iconic. Like at their peak. We nailed it. Yeah. At their peak.

You would play in the Beatles at their, at Beetlemenia peak. Yeah, because I mean, what's better than that? It's literally the best band ever. I would play in a 90s band probably. If I had to choose for me for sure,

it would be like, I would play in like hole or something. That's cool. Or like sound gardening. Yeah. Like what's like the, yeah, like the biggest most epic shows.

ever. Like, I just want to play those. You want to play? Yeah, so Beatles. That's pretty good. Yeah, I feel like the huge, huge, huge iconic. But the problem was like when the Beatles played, wasn't the whole thing that, and I might be wrong and get yelled at, which is fine, I get yelled out in my DMs every day, my man. Wasn't the, wasn't the whole thing when the Beatles played the huge shows? They didn't have the technology for the sound to travel far enough. So, like, it was like, the sound was really bad. It wasn't until like the 70s that they started to like kind of get a handle on

that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I kind of. Or maybe. was that like over the screaming no one could hear them? I remember reading a couple of stories of this like they were playing some of the biggest shows but the sound was really bad. Yeah they hadn't figured out stadium sound. I haven't heard that. Producer Jesse says that I'm correct on that. Oh I mean that would check out that makes sense to me.

Yeah. I don't know. I think that's a really good that's a really good question. I've given a few thoughtful answers. Like Prince and Prince in terms of like the music I think would be the bass lines and the Prince music because he wrote all of them as a probably player. That would be like really fun to play and the musicianship would be off the chain.

I feel like it would be really scary, and I'd be so freaked out all the time. And I feel like the Beatles would just be iconic because it's the best band, the biggest ever. Good answers, I think. Good answers. I agree. Nailed that wild card. All right.

Blue to Tiger, number 20. When was the last time you cried as a Pisces? I cried, I feel like a few weeks ago. What happened? From, like, being overwhelmed. Just like a crazy time, you know? Like, I feel like every few. weeks. I'll just, uh, just, you have too much going on and too much on your play. Yeah, it's like my

album's about to come out in two weeks, which is obviously a very emotional. Yeah, and it's scary. Overwhelming. It's very scary. I'm excited. You know, I've, you know, it's been done for a while and I've, you know, made the music book too. You want to get it out in the world. Yeah, I want to get it out. You're like, to be successful. Look at me. Don't look at me. Look at me. Yeah, it's like, I want to be perceived, but I also like, I'm like, uh, like, it's just, it's just a lot of emotions. Just a lot of, stuff going like I'm excited I'm also anxious you know like so I just feel like sometimes I'll like just let it all out from having like you know a mix of all the emotions I've cried like three times this week yeah I feel like if I really think about it I can just cry on this like if I can

really think about some like someone was like I need you to cry like I feel like I could just like really sit there and be like access that overwhelm I could access that overwhelming like I have to be really busy so that I don't access all that like overwhelming just the moment the moment things slow down. Or for example, if your car stops at a busy intersection breaks down with your puppy in the car that you just picked up from puppy preschool and your puppy's barking and everyone's honking at you and you're late to get to a podcast recording and you just burst into tears like that maybe. Yeah, probably. I feel like I cry more when I like have nothing going on versus when I'm really busy. Like when I'm busy, I don't even have time to think about what's going on.

If I'm like just kind of sitting with myself, like I can just access it at least. I also cried so hard during the end of that show one. No, the end of that show one day. Have you seen that show one day? Oh, no, because everyone says that it's too emotional. Like, I don't, I don't have that in me. I don't have that in me. I'm sorry.

Oh my God. I like binge it. I watched it in two days. I cried so hard. So those are my time. They need to stop. They need to stop with these like emotionally devastating teenager shows. I don't want it, you know.

Make it be happy at the end, you know. All I'm saying is Will Trent. He's a detective in Atlanta and he can't read. This is what I'm offering you this as an alternative. I should watch that. Okay. Number 21, alternative question that I like to ask everybody, what is your relationship with the Dave Matthews man?

I'm not like that familiar with the music, but I think I heard this the other day. I was on live. I was on like an Instagram live or TikTok live or something. And someone was in the comment saying that someone from Dave Matthews band like posted like reposted one of my videos and me playing bass or something. That makes sense. Yeah, but I didn't see it. I think it was a long time ago and I was like, I was like, wait, what?

Like, they rep- that's so, that's so crazy. Like, I didn't even know that. I think you and the bassist of Dave Matthews band would honestly get along super well and you guys should somehow have a link up or a competition. His name is Stefan Lassard. He started playing in Dave Matthews band when he was a teenager. He's the youngest member of the band. He's like, again, a freakish genius.

Maybe it was, maybe he reposted. It might have been him. They have really good baselines. I feel like, you know. I should get into it more. I think you could get down with Dave Bathies band. Yeah. I say it on every episode.

He's going to take a restraining order out on me. But these are jazz trained musicians, babe, who are really sick, sick players. And I think that you would enjoy it. When the summer tour comes around, we'll have Sam to Tiger help get us tickets. And we will go and see. I love asking Sam for tickets for things. Literally. apologies Sam to Tiger, I do too.

And you know what? He's the nicest ever. And he's so nice. He always will. And he's really come through in a pinch for me. Yeah, same, same. All right. Number 22, what song would you like to hear just before you die? I know that seems like an insane proposition because you're 26 years old and it's never going to happen. That's like a Grace Anatomy question. That's like an episode of Grey's Anatomy where they're like, let's put on a song while you get taken off events. Totally. Oh my God. Everyone's holding hands. The like emotional music at the background. Yeah. They have like candles going or whatever. I think I would listen to something super epic.

Good times by Sheik. Yeah, that would be crazy. I think I would listen to Heroes by name and Bowie. Oh, good one. You're not the first person to say that. I think that's really good answer. Yeah. I just love that. I love that song. And it's like six minutes. I feel like you have a second. to really like get into it. You buy yourself a little time. Yeah, buy yourself a little time. And it just feels epic and it's like kind of like a release and it just feels like that or like living like that. I have promulacardi would be so funny. You're like I am. I am dying. Yeah. But I think Heroes is just like one of my favorite songs. It would be cool. Let's go out on a bang, you know. Love that. It's like emotional. Yeah. It's uplifting.

What if I was like my own song? What if I celebrate? You're like love it. You're like a, what? Latency by Blutetegger. Latency by Blueter Tiger. That would be really funny. When Stephen Jenkins came on from third eye blind, he was taking so long to answer the question. And I was like, do,

do, do, do, do do do. And then he never answered the question because it just laughed too hard. And I was like, imagine you, like, that's your punishment. When you die, you have to hear the do to listen to your own song. The most famous one of your songs

that like you probably hate so much at this point. Oh my God. That you've like played a million times on tour and you've listened to you. And you're like legally obligated. to play it every. Yeah. All right. Blue to Tiger, number 23. What do you think about me? I love you. I feel like I could talk to you forever. But I've been a fan for a while. Like, I talk about, I talk about you with Dana all the time. You're a podcast head? You listen to Bandplain? Yeah. I do listen to Van Slan. And I just think you're cool and you're like funny.

Thank you. What's your favorite bandsplay episode? I'm really milking this one. No, you're really putting me on the spot. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I liked, I'm named three bands. Oh my God. I'm like, whoa, yo. I'm like putting him on the spot. But I like 24 question party people now. Hell yeah. Now I like that one.

But I listen to the Chromio one because those are like my boys. That's right. I listen to the Chromeio. Recently. And it was really good. But I think you're dope. Thank you. I think you're really cool.

And I think you're funny. Well, Blue, I really like you too. I could talk to you forever about Grace Anatomy and. Yeah. I think we have a good vibe. Which is, I think, what we covered mostly. Well, we're going to have a lot of. fun at the day and Matthews fan concert that I'm going to make it. Yeah. Like I feel like we can

connect. I feel like we connect on certain topics. We could link and build. Yeah, we can link. I love that you ask that question. That's so sick. Oh, yeah. I know. People are like, ugh, she asked this question. I'm like, babe, I get one chance to ask these fucking people what they think about me. You think I'm not going to take it? I don't care. You don't like it. Don't listen. Go tell it to a wall. I would, I'm like, I love asking people like, what do you think? Like, I'll be like, so what you think of the show? Like, I get, I'm like, no, tell me what you think of the show? Like, did I sound good? Do I look good? Like, yeah, it's so awkward because you're putting people on the spot. But also, it's just funny. It's funny. It's enjoyable. I love

the positive answers, of course, because I'm a human being who likes positive validation and attention like we've talked about. But I also, low-key love the negative ones because they're so psycho sometimes. Like, are people just like, I can't put people honest about it. It's very rare. Like Evan Dando was like, I don't know you. I feel like mad that I asked the question. I feel like I know you. I was like, babe, I know you don't like, the whole point is like that in this one hour, what do you, like, it's not like what do you think of. It was just really funny.

Sometimes it's, yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, it's, I like it when people are like, well, I think you're kind of annoying. No one said that yet, but I, I know that someone's thinking it. And that's okay. I think you're kind of annoying. I think you're kind of annoying. I mean, everyone's annoying. Babs.

Everyone's annoying. I'm annoyed. And if you're not annoying, you're not doing it right. That means you're playing it too safe and you're not being yourself. Exactly. That means you're not living. That's the tagline from me and blues episode. If you're not being going, you're not living.

It's true. You're literally not. They take a seat. All right, Bluta Tiger. Last question. Number 24. What do you want to plug? Ooh.

My album. Yes. Hell yeah. It's called All Everyone is Everything. What date does it come out? March 29th. March 29th on all platforms. All platforms.

And your tour is a number one. announce so people can get tickets. My tour's announced. So go get tickets to the tour. It's April 25th, May 5th in the U.S. Check it out. Have you announced your opener yet? No. Sam to Tiger has said you haven't chosen. Even all these DMs haven't paid off yet. Like I said, okay, I haven't chosen. I haven't chosen. But yeah, you can do it. But we're on the way to choose. We're almost there. Yeah, I text Sam about it a lot. And yeah, check out the tour. Check out the album. I hope you like the music. Then DM me. what you think of me. Tell me what you think of me.

Unless it's not positive and then go tell it to a wall because nobody gets. Yeah, if it's positive, tell me if it's not positive, don't say it at all. Yeah, check out the album, check out the tour. We'd love if you were to listen. That'd be awesome. Come on down. And season 20, season 20 is out today. And we love Amelia Shepard.

She rocks. Blue, thank you so much for coming on this show. It was super fun. This was so fun. It was fun to finally talk to you. Come back next week for a new episode of 24-question party people. Woo. 24-4-1.

Thanks for listening to 24-question party people, and thanks to my guest, Blue to Tiger. Blue's amazing new album, All I Ever Want is Everything, is out everywhere Friday, March 29. All tour dates can be found at blue to tiger.com. This episode was produced by Jesse Miller Gordon and Chris Sutton with help from Justin Sales. Our gorgeous theme song was composed by Heather Fortune.

Special thanks to Dana Mearson, Sean Fennessey, Rob Parvilla, and the egg muffins that I think. Come back every Tuesday for any of episode of 24 Question Party People on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. 24 question party people.