Bandsplain - 24 Question Party People: Chelsea Wolfe

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

Chelsea Wolfe stops by '24 Question Party People' to talk about her new album, 'She Reaches Out to She Reaches Out to She,' as well as a myriad of other topics, including why people hate Geminis so much, 'Kiki’s Delivery Service,' overcoming self-doubt, and the health benefits of eggs. All that and more, this week on '24 Question Party People.' Host: Yasi SalekGuest: Chelsea WolfeProducer: Jesse Miller-GordonAssociate Producer: Chris SuttonAdditional Production Supervision: Justin SaylesTheme Song: Hether Fortune Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, guys, it's your boy Johnny Bananas, and I'll be covering all the treachery, deceit, backstabbing, and murder from season two of the Traders U.S. on my podcast, death taxes, and bananas. I'll be joined all season by my fellow castmates to swap stories, provide all the behind-the-scenes antics, and sorted details from filming. So, Sally Fourth, and join me for Season 2 of the Traders every Saturday on the Ringer reality TV podcast feed. Party people Question party people Hello and welcome to 24 question party people I am your host Yossi Salak

This is a show where I invite an interesting person on for a little talk I ask the same 23 questions every time More or less plus one wild card The guest is allowed to skip one question Sometimes the questions change a little Sometimes they don't babe It's a real

Mystery, you'll have to listen Not a lot to report today you guys as I am practicing, cultivating an air of mystery. I'm just kidding, I'm literally physically incapable of that, unfortunately. But it's just that this week I don't think I have a lot to talk about in general. I guess I can tell you one thing. I heard an episode, I guess it was last week or the week before, of the Huberman Lab. I love that my podcast is just me telling you guys about another podcast.

But anyway, that's right, free advertising for you, Andy Hube's. Anyway, his guest was this very smart woman, Dr. K. Tai, and she was on to talk about emotions and social connection. It's a super interesting episode in general, but the part that really just slapped me right the fuck across the face, right in the mouth, babe, was this one little bit where Dr. K. Tai says that she spends one hour a week, one hour looking at social media and email. Both, babe. One hour for both a week, a week. I would follow this woman to the ends of the earth, babe. Like, start a cult, I'll join. I've had fucking poor focus for a long time because, you know, I possess a cell phone. But ever since Lou got sick and then passed away, you're like, this bitch still talking about that, just stick with me.

Ever since that all happened and my main form of self-soothing during that time was just, you know, four to six hours of, uninterrupted TikTok viewing. I've just basically completely broken my fucking brain. It's broken. The dopamine center. Blown the fuck out. There's nothing left there but dirt and debris and just like shrapnel, which is

bits of little minutia about guitar rock bands from the 90s. Anyway, this is pretty bad for my job where I have to learn a lot of information and then synthesize it.

into a podcast. So yeah, so I am trying to be more like Dr. K. Tai. One hour a week is not doable for me, babe. I'm sorry. That's not going to happen. But I'm starting with trying two hours a day. Okay, that's a lot. I actually started trying last week, but I fully fucking failed, so I'm getting back on the horse this week. As we speak, my cellular telephone is in the other room at my Gmail tab, babe. It's closed, bitch. It's closed. I'm not a brain surgeon and I don't hold the nuclear. code. So there's really no email that's going to come in that needs my immediate fucking attention. So yeah, I can check in twice a day. Anyways, I'll let you know if this one life hack is the one that finally fixes me. Either way, I'm evolving. But in a sense, I'm grateful that my level of

grief led me to completely abuse TikTok as well as by about 400 things on Amazon. on the influencers really had my weak mind in the palm of their little gel manicured hands. And I'm grateful it broke my brain because in many ways I feel like I'm rebuilding a new brain, a new self. I realize that sounds kind of dramatic. And you so what, bitch, let me have a little flair for the dramatic over here. Let me live. I think it's just like evolving as never the result of some like la-da-da, beautiful, peaceful beach

day or a great meditation session. maybe what do I know? I just think it happens more after your guts are ripped out and then force fed back to you down your throat. You know what I mean? No salt. And I think that part of evolving is actually a little more grief because you have to grieve the loss of your former self. I mean loss is not the right world because I don't think you ever really lose that self, right? You just absorb it like a Russian nesting doll type situation. Anyway, now you're like with this bitch on about. I thought you had nothing to talk about. Again, incapable. Well, my guest today has a new album out.

And you know what? Yeah, you guessed it. It's connected to what I've been talking about. Because for me, it really echoed back all these sentiments that I've been having. The whole Russian dullness of it all, the evolution and the loss and the grief and also the surrender that I think is necessary for any sort of transformation. I think people think transformation happens through sheer force of will or like two hours a day of TikTok. makeup tutorials. But really, I do think it also happens through a certain amount of just like sheer surrender. Anyway, Chelsea Wolf's new album, she reaches out to she, reaches out to she,

is incredible. And it really buoyed me in these tender feelings. So I say that, buoyed, boyed, buoyed, weed, you know what I'm talking about, the little ball that I hung on to in the water. Just like from rebuilding from this wreckage, like feeling like my new self was rescuing my old self from all that debris. Back on my fucking flare for drama over here. Anyways, all this is probably no surprise because Chelsea, someone who actually has mastered the art of cultivating an air of mystery, is definitely like a really special sort of artist. She's kind of a witch. She's definitely tapped into the divine babe. I love her.

Here's our talk. You guys, I'm here with the iconic, majestic, the mysterious, Chelsea Wool. Welcome to the show, Chelsea. Hi, Kelsey. Thanks for having me. Oh, my God, I'm so happy to have you. It's interesting because it feels like we were just in conversation because we did a little event for your album pre-listening party. And I'm so stoked to go deeper here with you.

Also, I feel like, am I pronouncing your name correctly? Yasi, I yazi. Babe, we've known each other for 10 years. I know, just thinking sure. I just, I was like suddenly questioning it and didn't want to be rude. It's been a decade. You've been done fine. Now you ask. Yay. I know, really. Right. She's like, yeah, I've been meaning to ask something for like about 11 years and it's, am I saying your name? I have friends that don't say it right and I honestly don't care because I'm like whatever, it doesn't matter, you know? Whatever it feels right to you. Yeah. All right.

Well, sorry for that randomness right at the top, but there we go. It was honestly adorable. Well, you're here not just because we're old pals, but because you put out a fucking incredible new album. She reaches out to she reaches out to she I've been listening to it a lot still since I pre-listened to it for the event It's so good Thank you so much

That's bad that means a lot coming from you Well I'm going to recycle what I said at the event But you know these people weren't there That it's just so like I don't know Slinky sultry like and we talked about it It has this like real trip hop Energy and you said to me

that was Dave Sytex doing? I think so, yeah. I mean, it's definitely an influence on me as well, trip hop and has been since I was like a teen. Totally. But once we got into the studio with Dave Sadek, it was like his kind of natural inclinations of, you know, playing something into a sampler

and then playing it through the sampler again, running things through his modular synths. It just kind of like lent itself to that sound. It sounds so good. Also, of course, always a very beautiful PJ Harvey Energy. It's possible that I just hear that. like everywhere because I'm so PJ Harvey focused but I heard it and I like that I mean another like huge inspiration on me as a young person so I'm sure she's in there for sure she's incredible anyways

it is amazing the amount of times I've listened to that um it should be something where like someone does wellness check when they're like oh are you on your like 600th uh repeat stream of the We're going to send someone to your house. That's really funny. Okay. Chelsea, let's dive in. Let's do the 24 questions. Are you ready?

Do you feel prepared? Okay. Number one, I know the answer to this, but I want to hear it in your words. And because I know you know the whole motherfucking chart, what's your sign? I'm a Scorpio sun, a Pisces moon, and a Capricorn rising. I don't have the rest of it memorized, but I, you know, have done my chart. before so I have it like stored somewhere to look at every once in a while. Totally. Only actually insane people have most of the rest of their chart memorize like myself.

I don't know. I wish I did. I'm not good at memorizing things. I weirdly am and but like kind of against my will like I will pull shit out of my brain where I'm like, why do you know that? Why did you retain that information? Yeah, I'm envious of that actually. It's, you know, it picks and chooses though. It's not really like up to me, which is kind of sad. This is a very intense big three that you have. Has anyone told you that? Actually, no one's ever really told me that, but it kind of has always just felt like that to me. Like all three of those signs carry a lot of weight, whether it's like water weight or earth weight. And so I just, I kind of feel that. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a really great trio because like you said,

Scorpio's water, but a fixed water sign. And then Pisces is a water sign, but immutable water sign. And then Capricorn is a cardinal earth sign. So you have like all of the types represented. Also Capricorn is the sea goat. So it's like the most watery of the earth signs. Oh, that's true. A beautiful little bridge there. I'm going to rattle off a few of the traits that are associated with these.

And you tell me if you relate to them. The sun, which represents, I think, ego, right? and like motivations. Ambitious. This is Scorpio. Ambitious, secretive, intuitive, jealous, loyal,

into revenge, magnetic, passionate and stubborn. Yeah, I feel like I have all of those. And it's like, yeah, well,

it's cool, like, learning as you get older that every sign has like a shadow side and a light side, for lack of a better word. I don't know what word to use there,

but, like a highest self side and a, Yeah, exactly. And trying to like learn to heal those shadow sides because like nobody wants to feel jealous and things like that, you know, but it's like just there and everybody and especially Scorpio. So learning to overcome that was part of the healing process. That's why everyone hates Gemini so much because Gemini's shadow expression is the worst of all this in my personal opinion. And so I think that's why they get such a bad rap. It's not a worse sign than anyone else. It's just that shadows. Yeah. Nobody likes it.

Capricorn, interestingly, which is you're rising, how we present and show up in the world. As we know, hardworking, ambitious. You have two ambitiouses, which is probably why you're a successful, beloved, critically adored musician. Again, loyal. But also has an inner mischievous side. Because you know, in the tarot, Capricorn is represented by the devil card. Oh, I didn't know that. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. And they say that over time, Capricorns are the ones that age backwards.

Like, the older they get, the more playful and mischievous they get because it's like an inner part of them, they start to let out more and more. Do you feel like you relate to that? Totally. Yeah. I love that. I love that. I was really cool. I was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense. And then obviously, Pisces Moon. Pice is the artist placement. And then having it in the moon. Omm, emotional. She's emotional. She's intuitive. She's maybe a little psychic. maybe a little. Maybe a little time, but yeah. Okay, Moody Romantic artist. It's all adding up to me personally. Yeah, thanks for that. I like that assessment.

All right, Chelsea, complete 180. Number two, it is 205 p.m. on the West Coast. What have you eaten today? Oh, I had, kind of funny. I don't know if you've ever been to this place in L.A. called Yucco Kitchen. Yucco Kitchen? Yeah, they have this rice bowl that's like tofu, zucchini. chickpeas, rice, and

a sesame sauce. And where I lived, like, up in the mountains of Northern California, there's nothing that I could order like that. So, learn to sort of recreate it. So I had leftovers of that today. Oh, delicious. Are you vegetarian, vegan? The only thing I eat is

eggs, which is kind of random, but it's just like... They're too delicious. Some of those things I'm trying to, like, figure out. I would like to be vegan, but, yeah, I'm not, unfortunately. Eggs are really good. for you. Don't give them up.

Okay. We want you to have all the health benefits of eggs. They're very chock full of vitamins. Well, that sounds good. Number of, what is, like, if you were like, okay, babe, we're going to order food tonight here in our rural mountain town. What are the options?

Like, I'm sure there's like a dominoes. Not that you fuck with that, but. Oh, no, there's definitely like a pizza place. There's a lot of like, you know, meat options. Like you can go get burgers and so like that. So I could definitely get a veggie burger, but that gets old pretty fast. So end up making a lot of food at home. Yeah.

I guess I don't order food that much, but I do like having me option. Definitely. Sometimes you're just like, I want something disgusting that somebody else made. Exactly. That's when I get dominoes on the horn. Number three. Chelsea Wolf. Chelsea Wolf. Did you listen to music

today? And if so, what was it? Yeah, I actually checked out the new Beyonce song, 16 carriages, I believe it's called. And it was really good. It was really good. I listened to it in the shower, which is like one of my favorite places

to listen to music, oddly. Yeah, that's great. Myself also, because then I can sing in the privacy of my shower where I somehow sound okay, even though I don't sound okay anywhere else because they cannot sing. But in there, I really am free to sing,

and it doesn't even bum myself out, because it sounds, the shower does something to the acoustics that you're like, it's like, okay, this is acceptable. Bathings always upgrade acoustics, it's true. Yeah. We are recording this the day after the Super Bowl, the big Beyonce drop.

So I didn't make it to that part of the telecast. I sort of tapped out maybe like eight commercials after at the half time. They started getting marginally worse and I was unable to pay attention. Yeah. I didn't watch it, but I heard. I know. I always like watch the clips of things afterwards for some reason. There were some pretty insane commercials and I believe that they

were reinforcing my belief that religion is playing out a comeback because there was a really insane commercial for Jesus. That's right. And it was. It's very odd. It's very odd. It really people were talking shit on it but loki I kind of liked it it was like giving outsider art it was absolutely made by CGI or something like or like AI like it was all these like different people one of which was washing the other's feet but it was like very like you know like woke like you know the I can't even remember honestly that was like a gay man having his feet washed by like a person that you would assume with homophobic I truly Jesse I don't know if you remember who the who the who the allegedly homophobic person was like a cop or something. I have no idea. But it was riveting. And yeah, I guess they used their money like I said for the ads. The ads spend and didn't have any left for the creative. And there was also obviously a big commercial for Scientology. Oh. There was just a lot of, there was a lot of God happening. And I was like, it's happening.

Religion is trying to get back in the mainstream. Yeah. Interesting. I feel like Jesus doesn't really need a commercial. Like I feel like he's got a pretty great reputation. I don't know, man. People, you know, people are a little anti-Jesus these days, I feel like, or anti-organized religion, I think. Oh, yeah. I guess in my head I, like, separate Jesus, the person, character archetype from, like, religion itself personally, but maybe a lot of people probably don't.

Well, we'll see if that commercial moves the needle. I don't know how they're going to test for that, like, if it was worth their ad spend, but we'll see. All right. Number four, Chelsea Wolf, what is the first song that made a meaningful impact on you as a child? My head always goes to Fleetwood Mac because that was, you know, very much a highly played band in my, both of my households growing up after my parents divorced, especially in my dad's house. So I think of the chain, actually. I talk about this a lot, but that live performance I did on MTV in 1997, I think it's called The Dance, was like really influential.

to me as a young teen. And so, yeah, watching them and hearing them play the chain was like all these harmonies and the energy and the lyrics are so good. Drama. Yeah. Drama, of course, yeah. I like that your parents were cool. They were playing fluid mac around the house. Definitely had really great music taste, both of my parents.

Oh, yeah, Mr. and Mrs. Wolf, former. Yeah. That's so funny. I don't think I've ever heard that out loud before. Yeah, it made me laugh. I know why that's good way. It was really funny. Okay.

Number five, Chelsea Wolf, daughter of Mr. Mrs. Wolf, what is the first album you bought with your own money or shoplifted with your own two hands? I love that. I don't know if it was like the very first, but the one that I think of is Jules' spirit. Oh, my God.

People do not talk enough about this motherfucking album. go off. We'll go off for it. It's so good. Well, no, I'm just going to say, I just realized that I saw Joel posting about how it's the 25th anniversary of that album. And that trips me out because that means I was like 15 and I'm 40 now, so it was a long-ass time ago.

But yeah, yeah, my older sister turned me on to Jewel and I was just really into it. And I feel like I just, she was one of my first like singer-songwriter influences. And I still think that record's really good. Oh my God, my hands are small. I know. but they're not, as they are my own.

Fuck me up, bitch. Still, to this day. I feel like it's time for like a jewel comeback, like a jewel asance. Don't you feel? She was very talented. I've seen some of her TikToks and she's really funny.

She has one that talks about like, when you're really tired and like your face, quote unquote, gives up. And you just have one of those days where your face is just like fuck. And I thought that was really funny. So I'm like, I really relate to that. It's really mean today.

I had no amount of guasha in the world was going to hold me. It was just way too tired. Jewel Spirit. One before was good too, though, with the Who Will Save Your Soul, obviously. That was the breakthrough album. Oh, yeah. Because that was, yeah. Was that pieces of you?

Yeah. Pieces of you were pieces of me. I don't know. Ashley Simpson. Ashley Simpson was pieces of me. And Pieces of you was Jewel. Yes, gosh, yes. Okay.

You're like, I take your word. Right. You know the Ashley Simpson song? Pieces of me? It's one of the best songs of my whole life, of my entire... I'm not to play it for you later. I'll listen to it. Yeah. It got unfairly maligned because she had a couple of snafus, if you'll remember. But honestly, she has some bangers. She needs a revival as well. All right. Number six, Chelsea Wolf, did anyone in your childhood ever tell you you're never going to make it or something like that, like they do in the movies? And if so, who was it? And what did you say? back. Was it Mr. or Mrs. Wolf? No. Never letting go, Mr.

Mrs. Wolfe. I know. No, both of them were always like really encouraging, thankfully. I think honestly that it was more me. Like I think I was the one who was internally like,

you're never going to make it. You're not good enough. So yeah, fortunately I had a lot of people on the outside whether it was like family or friends who were like, no, your songs are really good. Like you should play shows.

You should record stuff. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. They, they overcame your shadow side that was like, no bitch. Yeah.

You're no jewel. Yeah. Exactly. Your inner voice. Yeah. Exactly. Well, that's so nice to have a supportive community, telling you to do art.

Amazing. Yeah. All right. Number seven, Chelsea Wolf. What was the last time? You lied. Oh, gosh. I know.

I'm sorry. No. I don't know. I feel like I do this thing where sometimes in text conversations it's not like a lie but I don't like give very much information like if someone's like how are you like sometimes when someone texts me the words how are you makes me suicidal me personally I like want to throw my phone at the wall I don't know why but it's like it's just so much um so sometimes I'll either just respond like all as well or I just won't

respond to that or I don't like to talk about something else but that kind of feels like maybe in the line of a lie of omission yeah Ben told me about this Taoist thing of like, what is it like, do by doing less or something or do more by doing less, which kind of reminds me of that. We're like, sometimes I'm like, I don't think I have the energy to dive into like an hour-long text thing. So I'm just going to sort of do less here and just say a little bit, you know. I love that. I love that. Taoism, such a fucks, I must say.

I was very addicted to the Tao of Pooh, which is an amazing book that explains Taoism through Winnie the Pooh. Oh, that's so cute. It's really good. It's actually very emotionally moving, but also, like, really clearly outlines the principles of Taoism. And, like, it used to really soothe my anxiety. Yeah. I really recommend to anyone out there. Unless you're in my, like, trusted circle of, like, three people that sends me the

How Are You Text? And then I'm going to hit you back with a four-minute voice memo that we call a little mini personal podcast. Otherwise, yeah, I'm doing the same. I'm good. How are you? Yeah. even when I am reader I was not good my face was falling down I was in the fetal position

I'd been looking at TikTok for the last nine hours I hadn't done my job but I'm like yeah I'm good how are you but it's not a it's not a real question yeah it makes me feel better that I'm not alone in that feeling frustrated by that question sometimes well you also like can't you can't just be like they don't want to know so it's like you can't really like break it the fuck down It's like, you know, this is like a social dance that we're doing. Okay.

Number eight, Chelsea Wolf, what character in a book or film do you relate to the most and why? I'm going to go with Kiki from Kiki's Delivery Service. Have you seen that? Ghibli film. I know I know it's so famous and I'm not doing it. So it's so sweet. I feel like she's just this really kind of awkward, goofy person who, I don't know, just, like, couldn't quite figure out who she was for a long time.

And just saw all, like, the cool people who seemed like they had it figured out. And so I really relate to that. And it kind of just took me a while to just accept my own dorkiness. And, you know, I think that's, like, when I started becoming more successful is when I stopped, like, you know, I don't know, thinking that I was some loser or something. Yeah. No, totally. when you integrate the parts of yourself that you don't like and like just like go full authenticity mode it always leads to success yeah and i feel like kiki did that in that movie so i relate

all right kiki and i'm gonna watch is kiki a goth per chance i mean she's like a little witch wearing a little black dress you know it's kind of gauph oh yeah okay great so on all levels she's giving telsie wolves okay great can't wait to watch and i i'm ashamed of say i haven't seen it because I constantly see the memes and the pictures of the food that everyone's like, how the food looks so good and the food does look really good, but I just have to watch that. I'll add it to the queue. Yeah. Keep.

24-1-1-1-8. Number nine, Chelsea Wolf, what was your biggest sliding doors moment? Like, you had made another choice and you wouldn't be here right now because of it. I think it's had a few of those. I don't know. I've gotten myself into like some situations that were a bit like culty in the past. Oh. And I know.

I know. I might not have two deep into that. Susceptible susceptible to some slightly culty energy. Okay. And like, but thankfully there's like enough of the inner rebel that eventually I knew I had to leave. And so I have left a couple, two, three of those situations. Oh gosh. No, I'm like, do I have to get,

should I get specific? I'm always scared of like offending. It's totally up to you. I will not push you. But yeah, I'll just leave it at that. I've left a couple of the cult-like situations and grateful for that.

It's easy to get into those because I think we have such a human instinct to want to be part of something, you know, like, and be part of a group and have like a sort of like shared value system and a shared like, we're in this together.

Like, you know, it's like, it's truly, I mean, we're tribal beings, humans. And I think like, systematically that's been taken away piece by piece, you know, in society. So it's like, it makes total sense that people seek that, you know? And then it also makes total sense that it ends up becoming twisted in the hands of people because the other human instincts that are not good. Yeah, exactly. I think, yeah, also, like when you have. a sort of like family trauma like finding a new form of like oh this feels like family or it's

advertised as a family of sorts you can kind of get caught up in that totally i mean that's again part of the reason that i have my theory that religion is making a comeback or church or whatever because i think people are so deeply seeking community right it was like one of the original forms of community one of the biggest ones or the most enduring ones and i i keep i still believe it I think it's going to like people are slowly going to make their way back to newer forms of church. But then again, that also means there's going to be like way more like, way more cult like situations because people cannot be trusted. They keep making these Netflix documentaries. Yeah, that's true.

It does seem like you just like the only way for a community to like endure and work is that there's no leader and there's no money. those two are the most corruptive things right power and money and if you move those from the situation then it's like oh you can just have the benefits of community without the poisons of those things but me my cult I will be the leader so sorry guys and there will be a lot of money required so tapping if you guys are interested I have a lot of vet bills to pay so time to start a cult okay Chelsea wolf number 10 what characteristic are you most drawn to and other people. I admire when people are very fiercely themselves, speaking of authenticity.

You know, when someone is just very confident and doesn't, you know, worry about what others are saying about them, good or bad. I just, yeah, I aspire to that. I love that, yeah, same. I saw an amazing TikTok, my algorithm, absolutely mentally old girl ours. And it was like this woman, like sort of witchy. spiritual, vaguely, who knows,

vibes that was like, well, like we're all one thing. So whatever like you want to, like you have the urge to do, like to put out into the world, it's wanted. Because if you have the urge to do it,

that means there's a want for it because we're all connected. And I was like, fuck, that's sick. Totally. Yeah. And I feel like you can,

yeah, I feel like you can really hear like, listening to a podcast or something like that when someone is really expressing their authentic selves and it does make it more compelling to listen to them because you can sense they're not holding back anymore or something. I just feel like I'm sensing that more and more in people and it's really positive. Yeah, it's really nice. It is like such a hard thing.

I don't know if you relate to this, but I feel like for me it's such a hard thing to like balance being really authentic and also not maintaining. some privacy. Because there's like a different between being authentic and being like an open book that overshares. But totally. I do have some issues with the latter myself. Oh yeah. But no, I feel that. Yeah. I mean, because I'm like an intensely private person and I don't like to share a lot about like my personal life, relationships, home life, stuff like that. So finding that balance is interesting, challenging at times, but also good. How to get that middle?

We got to merge our sensibilities and get to the normal person level. Yeah. We're working on it. Yeah. The Dow, I'm just with that Tao thing. Sometimes less is more or whatever. Say less. Say less, ma'am is my new motto.

Chelsea Wolf number 11. Who was the last person you met that you were starstruck by? No, I mean, I did Jinks Monsoon's podcast, and that was very much like. Amazing. the whole time I was like, why are we talking about me? Like, we should be talking about you. Are you a big drag race person? I'm not. I've really loved Jinx's seasons.

I think I got turned on to her because, you know, she is like a self-identifies as a witch. And that was exciting to me to see, like, how she brought that to. She's also a musician, right? I think so. Yeah. I feel like she's, I feel like she's made a song with Orville Peck, which is why I know. Oh, yeah. I mean, oh, that's right. Yes, I've seen her videos. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think they're an amazing singer too and they're doing like Broadway and stuff. So yes, definitely musician. Just had a little brain freeze there. But yeah, talking to Jinx again, I was like, just wanted to talk about them and not myself. But yeah. That's very cool. I have actually never gotten into drag race. I watched like maybe the first two seasons and I did really like them. But everyone says they got way better at like four.

And I just never went back. So maybe there's like a universe of TV watching ahead of me. And I just learned they have them in every country. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, they have like all these foreign drag races. I love the comfort of knowing that there's like 8,000 episodes of something waiting for me. That just really feels good to me. Yeah, like at the right time.

Exactly. I'm just like ready to dive in, dissociate. All right. Number 12, Chelsea Wolfe. When was the last time you slid into someone's DMs? Well, pretty recently I've reached out to that musician, Lorne. Do you know them? No.

Electronic musician, L-O-R-N, Lauren. And, yeah, I'm such a fan, and they're very mysterious. I don't really know much about him. Right. But, yeah, I was trying to get a hold of them through, like, managers and things like that to see if he wanted to remix one of my new songs. Right. So I ended up DMing him, and I don't think he's ever opened it.

maybe someday. Maybe Lauren is not using IG that frequently. Yeah, probably not. They're not very present on the internet. I don't think of anything about Lauren. I'm on the Wikipedia page and says he was born in normal Illinois.

Oh, wow. Like the town's called normal? That's right. Oh, interesting. It's funny because after I DM to him, I had this weird dream that I finally got in touch with him. And he was like, okay, I meet me at this warehouse. And then I went to this warehouse from the middle of nowhere.

there was like all these like hoops I had to jump through to talk to him and finally like yeah it was really funny answer three riddles. I mean, well like you're actually just going to meet him at like a normal cop like a Starbucks. Yeah. The most normal thing ever. Maybe he's a huge fan of my pod. Maybe he's listening right now. I doubt it.

He sounds very cool and esoteric so maybe he's not. He probably doesn't even know what podcasts are. It doesn't listen to them at all. I doesn't know what they are. Yeah, that's like how I like to think about people. G. Harvey, like, just not knowing what podcasts are. That's, like, none of her business. She's like, I don't know. Sorry.

I walk through the, I walk through the forest. Yeah. In silence, composing music in my head. Doing poetry. The cliffs. Yeah, and the Moors. Do you listen to a lot of podcasts? I do. I listen to a lot of, like, spiritual ones.

My favorites are moonbeaming, um, moon to moon. They like, I'll have the name moon in them, apparently. Taking notes. Moonbeaming. moon to moon. And which wave. Wow. I didn't know there was all these witch podcasts. I guess witches

have access to the internet and equipment as well. Was it called Witch Wave? I love that. And are they, what are they about? They're just about like witchcraft? Yeah, Witchwave. It's Pam Grossman. She's an author and she interviews different witchy characters in different realms, you know, from like business people to artists.

And moon to moon is by Britain Leroux. And hers is kind of like astrology and tarot focused. And she's really wonderful. And then moon beaming is by Sarah Faith Goddess Steiner. He's an L.A. spiritual mystic person. I'm not sure if she self-identifies of the witch. But it's very, you know, moon focused as well. and also interviews really wonderful people.

And, yeah, learned a lot from all three of them. Okay. I'm going to check them out. I'm interested. I mostly listen to just like weird biohacking or like websites about or what an old website podcasts about that kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm not a big podcast person, surprisingly, even though it is my craft entry.

It's interesting. Probably why. I talk enough for a living. I don't need to talk to. talk. Okay, here we go. Number 13, Chelsea Wolf. What is the horniest song ever, in your opinion?

Hornyest song. I always think of, like, tricky and port-as-head. Do you think Glorybox refers to a vagina? I was thinking about randomly earlier today. Possibly. Just popped in my head. I didn't look into it. I didn't do any research.

It just had the song and then let it go. Yeah. And then let it go. I really love the song Morning Air I feel like that's really sexy They have a lot of really really kind of libidinal sexy songs I was thinking about the one that's what

It's one of the more famous one than I think it is glory box Was in the L word do you remember the original L word Oh I love the L word yeah So it was like when Bette was in jail I like I have that like burned into my brain Because it was so sexy Great answer Number 14

Tulsaulf What is the biggest money you've ever turned down. I can't think of any specific money thing. I think more about like collaborations that I've been asked to do by like bigger artists who are cool and have really big audiences, but it just like didn't feel like either I just really didn't feel like I had anything to contribute or just didn't like feel resonant with what I actually listened to and like. So I passed on some bigger collaborations. And yeah, it probably would have brought me more like money and exposure, but it just didn't feel right the time. Was it kind of?

you west? No. Never been contacted by Connie. I just popped into my brain. It was Taylor Swift. She was going for her. She was like, I'm making folklore and I need Chelsea Wolf. And you were like, no, bitch, not happening.

No, never heard from her either. Yet. Not yet. Okay. Number 15, Chelsea Wolf. What's the best live music show that you've ever been to? I played Hellfest. a couple times now. It's a festival in France, and I watched Warduna, which is my favorite band,

from the side stage, which was probably annoying for them, but it was just there, and it was so good. Yeah, that was one of the best shows that I've ever seen. Musically, they're always incredible, and for that tour, they had just the most amazing stage show with these, like, I don't know, like, almost like little caldrons that would, like, light up with actual fire at certain points in the show. And, you know, they use all these, like, traditional instruments. And it was just glorious. And then I saw them in San Francisco as well, like, from the audience, like a normal person.

And that was really amazing as well. I just mean, like, how you're supposed to watch a show. I'm dying. This is your favorite band. Spoiler alert to the, I have never heard of this band. I'm doing, did a like Google. It's given Game of Thrones. That's absolutely.

Okay. here is a Norwegian music group dedicated to creating musical renditions of Norse cultural and esoteric traditions. Yeah. They're bringing the past into the present in the best way. So cool. Chelsea Wolf was like, I'm not like other girls. My favorite Norwegian band has caldrons on stage.

No, I'm just kidding. I'm sure they're amazing. I will look into it, but it just. They're so good. Oh, my God, there was a meet and greet? They're doing a meet and greet. Oh, that already happened. There you go.

Yes. Athens, Greece. Let's get on the plane. They're all blonde. It's real Nordic. It's really Nordic. Children of the Corn. Okay, cool.

I can't wait to listen to this to be exposed to new music, which I love for myself. Okay, number 16, Chelsea Wolf. One in your life were you the most fucked up wasted hammered trashed lampshade on the head? Oh, gosh. Oh, dear. Too many times. which is why I'm sober now. Sobs.

Definitely sobs. I think about, I think one of the more embarrassing ones is like I went to see Savage's play in Sacramento, which is my hometown. And the show was really great. But like towards the end of the night, this guy who was proclaiming to be a fan was just kind of like following me around and making me really uncomfortable. And my way of coping was just like drinking more, I guess, instead of just like. like setting boundary like if i keep drinking he'll go away yeah like hey stop following me instead i just

got really drunk and you know by the end of the night we had gone to like a bar across the street and um he was still following me and like standing really close to me and i don't know i was just so drunk that i started crying which is um embarrassing because then i was talking to savages and crying and i just felt so dumb the next day you were just like so frustrated that you were like i don't know what to do here yeah but uh again it would have been solved for pretty easily by just saying like, hey, you're making me uncomfortable, but instead I just didn't say anything. Yeah, it's hard to say that. I get it. Also, when you've had multiple drinks, I think a lot about how many shows that, like, I didn't probably experience because I was so drunk.

You know what I mean? When you're like, I've seen so many cool shows and then something like, oh, did I? How much of it did I, like, really? Because there's like, I mean, I'm not sober, but I barely can drink anymore because I think I you have a lifetime amount probably that you can roddy can handle and mine hit it some time ago. But there there is like a sweet spot of like a level of intoxication. It's kind of fun for music, especially like you know like for me like a little mushroom. Like you just like enhances the experience. But like it's very easy to miss the mark on the sweet spot. And then you get into this other place where you're like, oh, I don't know what happened. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks when you go too far. And then you have like.

entire experiences that you don't even remember. That was always a bummer. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, now, raw dogging life, Bibb? Yeah. Actually, you're not raw dogging life because you have spirituality in witchcraft and you have things. Raw dogging life is when you're really just wide-knuckling, babe. Yeah, no, that's true. Okay, number 17 and 18, Chelsea Wolf, our tandem questions. They actually go really nicely with the last answer.

What do you love the most about being famous and what do you hate the most about being famous? Yeah. Don't say you're not famous. That's so funny. I was like, first, I don't think of myself as famous. You're famous enough that someone followed you around an entire show and punished you, and that is all. That's famous enough for me. Right.

No, that's true. I don't know. I mean, I guess just being able to, like, have a career is a good thing. If that's fame or just, you know, having like a dedicated following who's been with me, which is great. And then just like, I think more so than experiences like that is, it seems like every time I release something, there's people that sort of come out of the woodwork who've, like, either I've met in passing or have sent, like, one email exchange with and they just act like they know you, you know?

I don't like when people act like they know me that don't know me. It just really bothers me. just because they're like, oh, she's like, quote unquote famous now. Like, I'm going to tell this one story that I have about, I went to elementary school with her or something. You know, that just bugs me for some reason. I think it's just celebrity culture bugs me. It's so embarrassing. Collectively we're kind of getting over celebrity culture, which is kind of cool.

Yeah. People are a little bit less apt to pedestalize people, which I think is a good thing. Totally. You know that's like reflective in astrology. Oh. Like because of Pluto. of Pluto, apparently because Pluto's moving into Aquarius, they said, what was it in before Capricorn? They said that that sort of like was in line. I might be getting this really wrong.

It might be a totally different planet. The astrologer is going to be like, bitch, what are you talking about? I do not retain. Remember when I said a good memory? Absolutely was lying. I was lying straight to your case. I don't know if it was Pluto or if it was, didn't we have one other big planet shift recently? Probably. But I feel like Pluto's like, anyways, whatever. one because it's like the slowest, longest one, right? I think I'm right. Okay, so basically it was, I think whatever Pluto was enforced, I think was Capricorn

coincided with like the real rise of celebrity culture, like the Kardashians, airing and rising was all through that. And it's like, because it makes sense because Capricorn is very materialistic as a sign that's all about like showing off what you have and sort of like lionizing people that have

resources and stuff. But Aquarius is about like the collective and the individual and like less about you know, a bunch of people looking up to one person and more about everyone sort of like being their individual selves. So yeah, I think you're right. I think there's a going to be a shift. That's great. Damn, I didn't even get famous in time. It sucks. You already are famous too. Yeah, I had a, I had the mid-level podcaster fame, but now it's over for me. It's now it's the age of hilarious.

Just kidding. Number 19, Chelsea Wolf, this is the wild card. Do you believe in God? I'm giving you a light one a softball. I believe in like a spirit energy, a creator energy, but I don't call it God. Right. I was Christian when I was younger, but I no longer identify as Christian. So I don't know.

I feel like a lot of people are reclaiming the word God in different ways, which is cool. But for me, I don't really resonate with that word currently. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Like, I feel like if you had some associations with it in your upbringing, it's hard to like shake those and go back or like want to, you know? I didn't grow up with any religion.

So like, it's very easy for me to use God as shorthand because like I just, it's just what I think it is, you know? in my mind or whatever. But yeah, I feel like it's part of my like overcoming the sort of ingrained language that I had and me from Christianity and like and also Catholicism and also Mormonism. I had many phases as a young person. Oh yeah. There you go, cults.

There was a lot of like, there was a lot of like shame involved in a lot of that and a lot of like sort of bow down culture that I'm trying to like unlearn. So that's why I'm currently. like not really using the word God for myself. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Maybe God needs commercials instead of Jesus.

I'm just like the broader. People get really uncomfortable and use the word God. It's funny. I notice because I don't have any care about it because for me it's like again like shorthand for like the universe or whatever.

Like one big thing. But yeah, it's very different when, like you can say the universe and everyone's like yes moon juice um but if you say god they're like oh you're like right right it's presumptuous um but okay we're believing we're believers number 20 tell us it well if one was the last time you cried Pisces grown oh um I mean I think it was on my album release day because that was also like the day that I celebrate my cat's birthday and one of them passed away last year so I was like

party. Celebrating slash crying. Yeah. You know the sadness of that, but I sure do. I also think it was, oh no, no, it's okay. I also think it was just kind of like an emotional release because there'd been so much build up to this album release. So it kind of felt good to cry in a way, like just to let a little bit of that go,

but pressure. Yeah, yeah, because you had finished this album quite a ways before it came out. So it's like, it was a real long incubation. period. Yeah, definitely. Before you gave birth into the world. Exactly. Yeah, that's got to feel really emotional.

I'm like, also I'm sure it's emotional just to be like, this was my thing. And now you all get to also know about it and hear it and listen to it. Yeah, that felt really good, actually. Like, I was ready for that. Awesome. It's good. Thank God. Or thank a spiritual creator.

Number 21. Tells you what? What is your relationship to the Dave Matthews band? Oh, I really don't know much about them, to be honest. I don't like have a love or dislike for them. I think I'm pretty neutral. Yeah. I might need to listen to your podcast series because I heard it's really good.

Yeah. Dave Matthews Band is a wonderful band. Yeah. I'm sure they are. You know, it might not be exactly up your alley if you're favorite band is the Norse dark folk forest lords but like maybe maybe yeah you never know a little there's some songs that I could see Chelsea Wolf liking so give it a try there I just learned today they are nominated for the rock and roll hall of fame that's my guys so excited my agenda yeah it's working

out yeah I feel like if I talk about Dave Matthews on this podcast every episode he'll come on the show eventually that would be incredible I'd be like, this woman is unstable, and I don't, I don't, I would like a restraining order against her. No. It could go, it could really go either way. Okay. Number 22, Chelsea Wolf, what song would you like to hear just before you die? I'm going to go back to Wardrina again and just keep being a fan girl.

They have a song called Hell Viggin, which is like essentially about being like sung into the afterlife. So it's a really great song for my favorite. So I think that would be the perfect vibe. How do you know what it's about? Do you speak Norwegian? I don't, but they put out a book actually that has all their lyrics translated into English. Oh, wow. When you sing along, though, do you sing along in Norwegian?

Are you a sing-longer? I mean, the book has the lyrics in Norwegian too. So, like, occasionally I'll look up how to say things properly and try, but I'm not very good at it. It's more just you're letting it wash over you. Yeah. I don't know if I really sing along, to be honest. That's interesting. Like maybe like humming some of the melodies and stuff like that.

Do you sing along to music in general? Or is that not everything? Sometimes. I think more like when I'm driving and I'm listening to something. I usually listen to podcasts when I'm driving, but if I have music on the car by myself, then I'll sing along. You'll belt a little. My hands are small, I know.

Yeah, exactly. Your is my arm, man. All right. Number 23, Chelsea Wolf. What do you think about me? Oh, I think you're wonderful. I think you're one of those fiercely authentic people

that I admire so much. I feel like you've always been that way. And yeah, just always been drawn to your energy. I think you're great. Thanks, Chelsea. And I love your outfit of the day selfies. I love that you own your personal style. And I'm also like a big personal style

person. I don't know. I enjoy when... Aficionado. Yeah, exactly. Oh my God. I can't stop. saying, yeah, exactly.

Your listeners are going to be like, shut up. No, they're going to love you. You're so shudder. So you have such a soothing voice. Love you. But yeah, enjoy your personal style journeys. Oh, thanks, Chelsea. I mean, there's definitely been times in my life where I did not feel authentically

myself, but I think it's one of those things where I don't have a choice, you know. Like, you're just drawn to it? I just kind of can't help it because I don't know how to, like, I'm not a good enough actress or, like, faker to like be anything else. Yeah. The jig is up, you know? Like, unfortunately, like this is, it's too strong of a whatever this is that, you know, can't put any sheep's clothing on it. I've always loved your energy too. Again, I find you to be a very soothing person. You're like a human Xanax. You're one of the most beautiful

voices of all time. I love your music. And I love how you dress. So, right back at you. Also, I was very flattered when I won't name who it was, but let's just say that it was someone on team came up to me at our event was like Chelsea and I was like no I wish oh yeah oh my gosh that flatters me too and I'm obsessed with your hair it's so beautiful oh god stop that's a mutual admiration than and then last question Chelsea wolf what do you want to plug I have a lot of tours coming up this year I think that's probably a good thing to plug I'm doing North America in like end of February in all of March with Defined and Dissolve as support.

And then I'm going over to Europe a couple times in April and also in June. So yeah, Chelseawulf.com slash shows for all the tickets. Chelseawulf.com slash shows. Is that we should be so? Yeah, get those tickets.

Please give my love to Mr. and Mrs. Wolf. And thank you so much for coming on the pod. Chelsea, this was so fun. Yeah, thanks for having. me it was a lot of fun. Come back next week for a new episode of 24 question party people. Bye. Thanks for listening to 24 question party people and thanks to my guest, Chelsea Wolfe's new album, She reaches out to she reaches out to she, is out everywhere now.

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