Bandsplain - 24 Question Party People: Dave 1 and P-Thugg of Chromeo

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Chromeo come by the show to talk about Proust, how codependency is trending, and relating strongly to Will Ferrell's and John C. Reilly's characters in 'Step Brothers.' Plus, they tell us about their new album, 'Adult Contemporary.' All that and more this week on '24 Question Party People.' Host: Yasi SalekGuests: Dave 1 and P-ThuggProducer: Jesse Miller-GordonAssociate Producer: Chris SuttonAdditional Production Supervision: Justin SaylesTheme Song: Hether Fortune Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, guys, it's your boy Johnny Bananas, and I'll be covering all the treachery, deceit, backstabbing, and murder from season two of the Traders U.S. on my podcast, death taxes, and bananas. I'll be joined all season by my fellow castmates to swap stories, provide all the behind-the-scenes antics, and sorted details from filming. So, Sally Fourth, and join me for Season 2 of the Traders every Saturday on the Ringer reality TV podcast feed. Party people Before question party people Hello and welcome to 24 question party people. I am your host

Yossi Salick. This is a show where I invite an interesting person or people on for a little talk. I ask the same 23 questions every time more or less plus one wild card. The guest is allowed to skip one question.

Sometimes the questions change a little. Look in the mirror and ask yourself why does this bother me? Today's going to be a short one guys, a little short monologue. long intro. Ernest has really spent enough time at camp, if you will. A brief update for you guys. The grief is still grieving, but as those rote cliche statements do tend to be true, time has

softened, you know, the intensity and the crying and maybe healed some wounds, TBD on that one. Big shouts to my therapist for the heavy lifting. And honestly to myself, too. Okay. I'm I've done quite a bit of work over here. The journal. It's full bitch. Have I started working on my actual work work that I need to tackle to get back on track? Not really. Earmuffs boss.

Did I, however, decide to redecorate most of my house, move all the furniture, completely switch my bedroom into a whole other room, requiring like a week of moving and sorting? Yes, I did. Have I gotten perhaps way too into feng shui as maybe like another little form of spiritual escapism and control? Maybe, babe, maybe. But my old bed was up against a window. That is such bad luck and under a lowered ceiling bitch. I was begging for it. I was begging for the bad luck. You know what I don't need any more of? Fucking bad luck. So yeah, my compass is in my fucking hand, babe. I'm putting my whole feng shui-see into the redesign over here. I'm very sorry for that. I do

apologize. By the time you hear this, I will hopefully have made my way back into the Google Doc, tackling boops, dauntingly long discography. My eyes bleeding from reading the fan sides from 1998. Why do they always use neon green font on black background? Doing God's work, really. Sometimes the only way out is through a new coping mechanism and some good old-fashioned hard internet work, time in the internet, Google Doc minds. And time in general, just always time. Speaking of time. The way that I know that it is, in fact, a flat circle is that I first interviewed Dave One and P Thug of Chromeo in like 2008 for a fucking print magazine, mind you. were we ever so young? And here I am again, 16 years later, which is crazy because I'm only 28.

Doing it again. Once more with feeling, et cetera. We had fun, babe. We got deep. We talked Proust. They did wholesale reject my campaign to get them on board with Bonge, which, you know, not ideal, but don't judge them too harshly for that. They can't help it. They're French-Canadian. Here is. in my chat with Chromeo. You guys, what a treat. I'm here with the members of Chromio, Dave 1, Pthag. Bange, you guys. Hi.

Good. Can you guys help me make Bonsch happen? So I've been trying to make Bonsch happen for a while, and it seems that people are very receptive to it, except for French people who don't like it. Yeah, no. Also, I did an interview with a Belgian guy. He also didn't like it. But it's very popular amongst my American fans.

Really? And I think if you guys... We could be the gateway drug to bond. That's what I'm saying. Because you guys aren't really French either. So like maybe you're like, you know, stepping across two lines there. It's our first language French, but... Yeah, but like you're Canadian.

Yeah. Where did you get... Where did you get bond from? Where did that... For my own beautiful mind. Oh, so it's your thing. I see. Yeah, it's just short for a...

Bonjour, as I'm sure you picked up in contact. Yes, I picked up on that, but I just figured I was like, where did you get that from? What's the deal? Now I know. I feel it's short, it's punchy, it's cute. Why isn't it taking up? Why do? It just, it goes with my thing that French people are mean.

They just don't want to accept new things. Yeah. There is a sense of tradition, a strong sense of tradition. All right. I don't feel like you guys are on my side here, but. We're not on your side. I'll have radicalized you to ban. Yes, maybe you can radicalize us.

That's right. I mean, the French people don't like you guys either. I've heard them talk about French Canadians. They were very mean about French Canadians. You should be on my side. Yeah, or they fetishize. They fetishize French Canadians, but they're like, oh, you guys are so cute and exotic and it's cold,

and we can wear like puffer jackets when we come see you and eat maple syrup. The thing about me, P and I is that we're not really, We're not really French-Canadian either because we're from immigrant families. Sure. Same. We actually met at a French laissez. Because our parents had such a mistrust of the Canadian educational system that they were like, we're not sending you guys where they talk all crazy. We're going to send you guys to have the same exact French colonial education as we had.

So my mom being from Morocco and peace parents being Lebanese, they were like, we're sending you to Lise. And that's where we met. I feel like we have similar experience. in a way. My parents are from Iran. I went to just normal American-house school for a long time, but then we moved to Singapore, and I went to the American school in Singapore, which I feel like it was probably similar to going to like a laissez when you're in, like, you're kind of just like, were there like a lot of international kids or like expats that were living in Canada?

It is absolutely. Yeah. Cool. Well, Gorge. Yeah, similar. I mean, what was funny with us is that it was all French teachers that came to Canada because they didn't want to do the military service because at that time it was still mandatory military service. So they were shipped to Canada because that was their scam. But they didn't know anything about Canada. So they would teach us French geography but not Canadian geography. So like we would learn all the rivers in France, but like we didn't even know like the Canadian provinces or like anything about the US. Babe, who needs to know about the Canadian provinces?

Let's be real. Okay. Where is that going to get you? you. You're not wrong there. You know what I mean? Like Saskatchewan, where is that? Who cares? Honestly, who cares? That was the one I was going to name. It's not. I know. Randomly, I've been there. I've also been to Winnipeg. I've been to a lot of parts of Canada for, for, sorry. I know. It was, it was rough. I had to eat at a Mexican restaurant. I can't remember it was Saskatchewan that I had to eat the Mexican restaurant. It's called Amigos. Don't go there. It's like a place where like punk bands play.

That sounds kind of dope. It was. Listen, no, all respect to. Amigos on every level except for the food, which was bad. You guys, the new album is so fun. I have to say, I really appreciate that you worked late stage capitalism into a lyric. Thank you. That seemed ambitious, but you did it and it worked. It's what we do. It's our contribution to the genre.

It is like a really fun juxtaposition. Yeah, we had the Dave album, you almost wanted to take it out. Your genius line. I insisted on keeping it. They was like, too much, too much. I'm like, not enough to get in. Yeah, because when you, when you know, we've built our whole career out of riding the fine line between good taste and bad taste and intellectual and kind of lowbrow

and all that stuff. So like when you have a line like late stage capitalism and a disco song, it beckons a little bit of debate. But that's where it belongs. That's where it belongs. Well, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely.

Thank you. That's the sweetest thing anyone says. that to us about the new album. Well, also, not a song called Koda. I wanted to talk to you guys about this, because I really feel codependency is like having a moment, don't you feel? Is it? What else?

What else is going on? I don't know. I just feel like I hear about codependency and Koda, like, all the time. And then I always hear people, like, speak in sort of, like, the veiled takeaways that you get from 12-step, like particularly Koda, without mentioning that they've been in 12-step. and then you kind of do a little eye, like, you meet eyes and you're like, that's right my side of the street. It is clean.

Thank you for asking, you know. Are you, uh, are you, I did, I did some 12 step. I'm not currently in 12 step, but I did in the past do some 12 step. Yeah. I frankly think everybody should do 12 step, like, as like a requirement to be a, like, functioning member of society. I don't think that people have to go forever, but I think there's some real good shit in there that teaches you how to be like a normal human being.

that a lot of people don't know, you know? Yeah, I absolutely concur. You should teach that in elementary school. Dead ass. Like, I'm really serious. Like, I meet some people and I'm like, oh, babe, it's free. Like, you could just go there. It is available to you.

They let anyone in. Yeah, it's actually the American, the only American equivalent to a free healthcare system. Healthcare is a 12-step program. Because, like, A-A saves lives. N-A saves lives on the day. basis for free. I mean, I think the other ones do too. There's so many ways to be miserable and ill. And there is like almost a 12 step for all of them. There's an internet addiction one.

I don't think it's like a big one, but it exists. Well, first of all, not everybody will understand that Coda is a thing. Right. It's a 12 step. Codependence anonymous. I know the hair eating, eating your own hair program. Yeah. That's a very common one. It's called like tricta. Well, I don't No, tricketolomani. So you pull it out. Yeah, yeah. I had that when I was a teenager. So that's a dual one because, I mean, obviously to eat it, you have to pull it out.

Unless you're just like pulling it out of your brush. What else are you going to do once you pull it out? I roll it on ball and put it in the trash can. Yeah, you could do that. You could also eat it. Yeah. But not everybody knows that Coda has a program. So you also, you get another point for that because you really, you really listen deeply.

That was one of our kind of veiled things. I don't know if anybody's going to get it. But thank you. Well, I mean, L.A. people will get it. I think that's a very popular 12-step culture. Big time. Big time. Yeah. Also, I love the thing about Coda where, like, people don't really have sponsors because they're too codependent. You can't really have a sponsor.

That's really fun. I didn't realize that. That's amazing. Not to out the, but I think that's how it goes. I didn't do Coda personally. But anyways, you guys, are you, well, before we start, I have to tell you, we have actually met before two to three times. And I figured you guys wouldn't remember. And I'm not trying to shame you about that. I just wanted to bring it up. One time I interviewed you, this has to be at least it was for a print magazine. So it must have been at least 12 years ago when I was writing for print magazines. Poolside at the standard or the Mondrian. I can't remember. I think it was the standard. And I think I had pink eye. So I might have worn sunglasses the whole time. I remember exactly

when that was. Do you really? You don't have to lie. It's totally okay. Was it for like mass appeal. It might have been for like mass. No, it was for misbehave. I really can't remember. Misbehave. Oh, it was for misbehave. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, great memory. Very good. You can. My memory is, I'm asking me about my memory. It was for misbehave. It was poolside at the standard. Okay. June 2007. Misbehave magazine. I still have the scan. Oh my God. It had to be then because when I'll would you do an interview poolside at the fucking standard hotel? Only the mid to late aughts. Like, we would never do that anymore. God forbid. The only thing that might be weird about that, and I don't remember, but I had pink eye as well. Wait, so maybe I'm misremembering that

you had pink eye and I put it upon myself so perhaps I didn't have to get. Okay. I just remembered pink eye, but I thought it was me. Okay. Well, I'm glad that you relieved me of that burden. So you know my whole thing about like how I wear the wayfarers all the time like it comes from then I had pink eye for three months I had a viral conjunctivitis for three months I don't know if can you imagine having pink eye for three months it's crazy it'll make you insane it's so painful it's it's a crazy town and so we were filming our very first video in L.A and that's why we were at the standard and I had pink eye so I was like I need sunglasses so I started wearing the wayfair and then it stuck, and that's how it happened.

And you interviewed us for misbehava. I remember. So what was the other time, though? Apparently, I spoke to our mutual close personal friend, Sam Hunt. Well, I guess for you guys, as a business associate, but for me, personal friend. And I was like, do they still do that festival in the Dominican Republic? This was the first one. Do you guys remember this?

I swear you guys were there and run the jewels. And I want to say Ezra from Vampire. weekend and Danielle from Haim. It was just like this little group of and so that is the other time. That was a very strange trip for me. Strange vibes. It was real weird vibes.

We went to like a weird nightclub one night. And that was 2015. That sounds right. I'm not good with dates. I'm just good with memories. We're feminine. You know, like just like nebulous memories. Dates, times, facts.

Time isn't real. money isn't real, you know what I mean. Okay, are you guys ready to party? Let's go. 24 question party people. Okay, Gorge. Let's get started. Question number one.

What is your astrological sign? Dave, please go first. Gemini. That's right. Gemini's are maybe unfairly discriminated against in the Zodiac. I don't know if you're familiar with this. Yes. I think they're probably the least popular sign.

Yeah. We're the most hated. I have to say, it's not because Gemini are actually worse, it's because, so like every sign has like a higher expression and a lower expression. It just so happens that the lower expression of Gemini's is the worst. That's the problem. So not all Gemini's possess the lower expression.

It's just the ones that do ruin it for everybody. Do you know what I mean? Right. It's always like that. Tell me if you relate and P can weigh in to since he obviously knows you very well as your creative husband. Gem and I's are known to be very playful, intellectually curious, excellent communicators, very chatty, social butterflies, many interests in hobbies, and they tend to talk with their hands. Do you relate to any of this?

Yeah, sure. Those are all great things. Yeah, so the bad things are they can be very gossipy, they can be two-faced, it's the twins. So it's, they can have two sides that sometimes you're like, what, bitch? Are you schizophrenic? What's going on? then they're very impulsive. They can be very moody and very inconsistent and hard to count on. Can be. These are the lower expressions.

What do you think, P? That's where I stopped listening to horoscopes. David is the most reliable person on the planet. Yeah, so it's a higher expression. Also, there's more planets in the chart. We won't get into it. Well, LeMectal helped with some of the stuff you're talking about, the mood stuff. Moonsal.

Yeah. Correct. Gorge. Wonderful. So Gemini's, if you're listening, perhaps a little LeMekdahl could help you. A little LeMectal. Okay.

P. I was going to just ask you, but to be honest, I always look this up in advance, which is how I know that you're a Leo. Leo's known to be majestic, royal, love attention,

love to be in the spotlight, center of the party. Very brave, natural leaders. Love decades. and lavishness. I share that trait with you. I'm a Taurus. So I love nice things as well. By the way, I'm a triple ascendant Gemini. Oh, no wonder you guys get along so. So you're rising as Gemini and you have, you have three planets and it's called Estelium. Mercury Gemini. Something else Gemini. I had my

whole thing done this summer. Yeah, you have a stellium. Which in Lebanon and she was like, no, no, you're actually triple ascendant. Your Saturn is in Gemini. And I'm like, okay. Wow. That's kind of very cool. Makes sense why you guys would get along. Also, Mercury and Gemini, I have that placement too. It's an excellent placement because Mercury is the communication planet and Gemini is the communication sign. So it's like the best place to have that. Makes you a really good communicator. I identify as Gemini. Oh, so you don't love attention. Are you laughing because you do love attention or you don't love attention? He likes attention. I think a lot of what you said applies to him. Are you sensitive to criticism, P? No. Depends on the day. It depends on the delivery, but we couldn't be in a band for 20 years if one of us was sensitive to criticism. You know, the first question that most people ask is, how do you make a relationship last so long?

That's part of it, you know, especially with creative decisions and music, like you can't. You just can't be like that. Yeah, well also you guys give a like a familial vibe to me. Like you know what I mean? Like where I think when people like start to be family like it's of course it lasts forever because you don't treat it like you would just like get your feelings hurt and then not talk to them anymore. You just like kind of duke it out. Like it's like yeah like we're not going to stop having a relationship. So we're going to fucking figure it out.

And we come from very solid kind of families. You know, our moms are really important to us like our. We have strong mothers, maternal figures, you know, great, great warm-blooded cultures. It all helps. I know. It's collectivistic cultures, honestly. This is the thing that people not from collectivistic cultures don't understand. Like, I don't care if I hated my parents every day for 10 years.

I go there every Sunday. You know, like, it doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter if you're mad. It doesn't matter if you want to be there. And I'm like, honestly, so grateful for it. At the time when, like, in my early 20s, was like, what the hell? Like, my white friends don't have to go to, you know,

but now I'm just like, this is the best because you have this like glue and bond that like transcends sort of like selfish or individual whims. And it's so important. Transcends kind of daily vicissitudes and like your moods or whatever contingencies are affecting you in the moment. It doesn't matter. They'll still come pick you up at the airport

and insist on driving you to the airport. Exactly. there's two kinds of people out there. There's the people whose families insist on taking them to the airport and picking them up at the airport. And then there's plebs. I like to say it is there's the kind of people who charge their children rent after college. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's the other kind.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's big. Yeah, psycho. Okay, number two, you guys, what did you eat today? It's 9.30 p.m. so I would expect a full rundown. I know I interrupted dinner, so perhaps you haven't had dinner yet. I had a Lebanese breakfast, which is like a big piece. It's like a pizza with time on it. I'm cucumbers, labanay, and all sorts of stuff.

Then I had a kish. and French fries for quick lunch. And I still haven't had dinner yet. Again, I apologize. Very interrupting. Fine. 9 p.m. is a little on the early side to have dinner here. Oh my God.

Would literally not survive. Like when someone in L.A. is like, hey, do you want to have dinner at 8.30? I'm like, do I look fucking European to you, bitch? 6 p.m. 6.30. I can make it work. Crazy. But that's it. We're not doing that. We're not doing that.

Okay, P. You seem like a fun-loving person who loves hearty and nourishing meals. I do fear you're not getting enough protein. I mean, Labna has good protein, but maybe we want to up the protein in the breakfast. Like maybe just a shake on the side, you know? Yeah, I should add some pickled herring or something. It's important to get a lot of protein in our diets. What about you, Dave?

What have you eaten today? Crosson coffee for breakfast A weird You know Paris has these like Wanna be American Like Oh like when they're like kind of Arawani type vibes or something different Yeah so I had like a

When it's not yeah it's airwine like kale So I had like a fish bowl One of those Like you like you order Like it was like a it was like supposed to be like a It was supposed to be like a fish and chips But I had it in a bowl And you had to order it on an iPad

whatever. And then I just had steak or pov, so pepper steak and fries for dinner and a glass of wine. Wow, that's much French-ass day I've ever heard in my life. Seven coffees today. Yeah, I've been tired. I saw a really funny TikTok where this lady was like, I understand now why European people are in such a bad mood and so mean to you and have to take a five-hour nap in the middle of the day.

It's because they wake up and eat a pound of sugar for breakfast. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's funny. I mean, quassant is not really, you didn't have a chocolate quasson.

You just had a regular croissant. But that is like quite a, quite a bit of carbs with really no offsetting protein to help you out there. No. I'm just perhaps like one egg. You make it up with coffee the whole time. So when you have a dip, coffee, another dip, coffee, other dip coffee. Other dip coffee.

So you're just kind of permanently, you know, fuming. You guys, we're not getting any younger and I'm going to need you to reconsider your diets and maybe think about adding in some supplementation, some protein. Do you know what I mean? A little L-theonine really takes the edge off the coffee. I heard about L-carnatine. I take that one too. Very good for your mind.

Also, magnesium L-3inate, very good for your mind. Magnesium is the new thing, right? It's like codependency. It's very in right now. It's trending. trending. I use a thing called Mago7, but I'll let you test it out and you can you can report back. No, that's great. No, it's not. No, it's not. Mago7 is not, it's an extremely powerful laxative. Well, yeah, because magnesium citrate is a lack is a, not a laxative, but it's a helps with your digestion.

Yeah. That's right. Honestly, my greatest interest is this kind of stuff. I don't care about music anymore, but you know what? No one's paying me to host a podcast about supplements. So you have to do what they want from you. Work it in. Just work it in like you're doing now. I do. I mean, I'm really trying to make people understand that I take fish tank cleaner now every day.

And I've been seeing some great benefits. Yeah. It's called methylene blue. It makes your pee blue. Oh, wow. Methylene blue? Yeah. There's some studies that they've done that say that it prevents COVID.

Whoa. Like it basically attacks COVID in the body in a way that it doesn't. Listen, I'm not a doctor. So my worst trade is like absorbing this information, it being satisfactory for me, but then not being able to explain to someone else what it was or what it means. So now I've just taken to saving the studies and sending them to people and being like, here, you read it yourself. But I'm just saying, methylame blue. Just don't trust people when you tell you to drink silver nitrates.

No, that's really bad because it wasn't that it's colloidial silver. Mother God. It wasn't the lady. Mother God. Of course. My friend Sarah, when I told her about methylian blue, she was like, you shouldn't drink that. The lady on that thing, I didn't watch it. So she was like, the lady on that thing drank it all the time and she turned blue.

And I was like, oh, no, really? Like, I think it's fine. But then she came back and she was like, I'm very apologized. It was colloidal silver. Yes, collidal silver. Yeah. That's a very like 90s health food store staple. It really is.

Like people don't really take that shit anymore. Actually, no, not true. Not true. You're in L.A., right? You know about, what's that shake, like a moon juice? You know about the moon juices? Yes. One of them has collidal silver in him.

Really? Interesting. I'll look into that. I'll do a little cursory. I didn't mean to snitch. I didn't mean to moon juice, moon snitch, but I did, yeah. They're going to sue us now. Okay.

Number three, you guys. Have you listened to music today? And if so, what was it? I've only listened to a Chromio demo today that I sent today a couple weeks ago. I love that demo. That's literally the only music I listen to today.

Okay, well, that's, you're working. You're a working man who doesn't have time for frivolous activities like listening to pop music. This morning, I was listening to an album by a rapper called Benny the Butcher while I was showering. Should I listen to it? I don't know a lot about contemporary rap music, I'll be honest.

No, it's, I mean, I like him. but I didn't find the album spectacular. I just was like kind of, it's like a new thing that came out last week and I was listening to it. Is he French? No, no, no, no, no. He's from Buffalo, New York.

He's dope. The album, I'm not loving the album so much, but he's dope. All right. Well, on your glowing recommendation, I'll probably skip it. Okay, number four, you guys, what is the first song that made a meaningful impact on you as a child?

Me was Man in the Mirror, Michael Jackson. Yeah. What did it make, did it make you, that song used to make me a little scared. Did that song make you a little scared? No. I was like, yes, it's me. The man. I was in front of the mirror. I had one Michael Jackson glove. I was like looking into it, combing my hair, you know, man in the mirror. It's a great song. Very deep. Yeah, I think I think even as a child, I was just a little disturbed by the ramifications of having to like really look yourself in the eye and make, a change, you know? Mm-hmm. What about you, Dave?

I guess, like, as far as I can really remember, I think, Sweet Child of Mine was, like, a huge one for me. That's a fucking, yeah. That was like, I remember listening to that song, yeah, banger. And I was, like, in third grade. And I guess it was the first song that I was like, I could listen to this on repeat forever. Yeah. Like, and ever and ever.

And so I remember saving up, like, my little pennies and buying the cassette. and I would just like listen to it over and over and over again. You mean you're loonies and tunis. Oh, they didn't have lunis and tunis. No, they didn't have loonies and tunis. That's a more recent development. Relatively, yeah, get your facts straight. Like I said, nobody has to know about Canada.

So the fact that I even know anything about Canada, that's already above and beyond. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it is. I mean, but you had an internship in Saskatchewan. I didn't have an internship in Saskatchewan. I simply stopped there one day on tour. imagine. I had to live in Saskatchewan. Jesus Christ.

By the way, that counts as an internship for that place. That was an internship, yes. One night. Yeah, Sweet Child of Mine, Guns and Rose has really, I'll say it. I think I don't want to say underrated, because obviously they're rated quite well, but an underappreciated. Yeah, I think people lump them in with all the other sort of like more basic hair metal bands. when they're really some other animal. Like Axel Rose is a genius.

Slash is obviously like a virtuoso. Duff McCagan was like a... Izzy. Oh, Izzy Stratelette is my favorite member, the hottest. Well, he wrote all the stuff. He wrote a lot of it, yeah. He wrote a lot of it. Axel Rose is like Elton John levels.

Literally. Flash, we know. The reason why Guns and Roses are one of our spirit animals is that Duff McKagan said many times that him and Stephen Adler is a drummer, used to rehearse to funk music. And so they were huge cameo and Prince fans. And so before the guys would show up at rehearsal, they would like practice Prince songs and cameo songs.

And that's the reason, not to get extra nerdy, but the reason why the drummer doesn't have like a million symbols like all the metal guys is that is that they were, they loved funk and they were like, dude, just James Brown doesn't need all the bells and whistles. So they were actually, they were like a funk rhythm section. A hundred percent. So that makes me love them even more. 100%. And for me, it's that...

Love guns. Mad love for guns. Duff McCagan came from all the punk bands in Seattle. So he brought this, like, extremely punk sensibility to Guns and Roses. And also was, like, very good friends with the guys that were in, like, the first grunge bands. So it's like, there's so much more going on in Guns and Roses. People get them credit for them. But you guys obviously know that.

They're seminal. Yeah. Seminal, seminal group. 24-11. Okay, number five. What is the first album you bought with your own money or shoplifted with your own two hands? Me, it was L.L. Cool J. Bigger and Defer. You were a cool kid.

My first exposure to North American music. But you had heard Michael Jackson. No, not even. This literally, I mean. It was all the same time. Oh, you bought L.L. Kool-Jay first and then you heard Michael Jackson. Before, yeah.

I didn't live Michael Jackson thriller in the early 80s. My family moved to Canada. I was 10 years old already. It was 1987. Got it. Very interesting. All I knew was Arabic and French music. Sure.

So my first North American exposure was rap. Who gave that to you? Like a kid at school or you just sought it out yourself? Yeah, yeah. It's cool. Of course. A kid at school, you know, and my family used to go to the U.S. because we lived really close to the border.

It was like 45 minutes and we were in Plasburg, New York. And we'd go there every Sunday with my whole family to buy cheap American items. And the first movie store in a big American mall, I was like, ooh, LL, cool, Jay. Cool guy. The name worked on you. Yeah, it really worked. It's good marketing. Cool.

How about you, Dave? It was actually two cassettes, and it was the aforementioned Appetite for Destruction, and Robert Palmer Heavy Nova, which had Simply Irresistible. And, you know, if Robert Palmer, I think, shaped a little bit of my persona, my Chromio persona. I lifted a lot from him. That makes sense. Like the, you know. Sure.

The sort of like, and then the girls. with the eye shadow. Yeah, yeah, we took all that. Yeah, we took all that. I mean, I'm really seeing in real time the DNA of chromia being absorbed as the small French children. French Canadian, excuse me. Who showed you, who showed you sweet child of mine? Your parents?

No. No, no, no. My parents hated that. It was on the video channel. The channel that would play. Oh, you just watch on much music. Yeah, well, on the French version, on Music Plus. By the way, you know, wait.

too much about Canada. Are you sure you didn't have an interchip? I'm a journalist. I'm a journalist. Okay. It's my job to know about a lot of things. And so much music though. Okay. All right. Well, on music, music plus. That is the Canadian much music for French people. No, the French, the French, the French Canadian, much music. Okay. They don't have music plus in France or they do also. No. Got it. It's only for French Canadian people. Only in Montreal and in province of Quebec. I've never been there.

Come, you're invited. I had a very bad experience in France several times, so I don't know if I want to go back to another French speaking place. But actually the last time I went to France, I had a really good time. Yeah, everybody speaks English in Montreal anyway.

Okay, so that will be fine. I mean, everyone speaks English in fucking Paris too, bitch. But doesn't matter. They won't talk it to you? No, it's different. Montreal, you actually have English. Yeah, English speakers. Also, I realized the reason I had the worst time in Paris when I was younger was because I, the phones didn't work. And it was like, I had to, I couldn't get around. So, like, I literally had to, like, scuttle from, like, one Wi-Fi to, like, the McDonald's because they had Weefe to, like, then look up another map. And I, like, I just felt so trapped. And no one

will help you. And I was just like, I want to die. I hate it here. Yeah. But now I've come around. I've come around to Paris. Beautiful. bikes for rent and gorgeous baguettes and really a great place. Great place. You guys don't live there, do you? No. No, you're just... I lived there for a minute. When we did actually, to harken back to that misbehave interview we did, at that time, I was living in Paris. You do seem like the type of person who would move to Paris at some point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we did the fancy footwork album, I was living in Paris for a year and a half. Um, well, you speak French. She's easier for you. Okay, okay, okay. Where are we? Number six.

Did anyone in your guys as childhoods tell you, you're never going to make it as an artist or something like that, like they do in the movies? And if so, who was it? And what did you say back? Yeah. My father. And why was it your parents? Why was it your dad? Why as immigrant children, was it your father?

I wonder why. They were like, no, here's a brochure for engineering school. I don't want to be an engineer. I don't want to. Straight out. Well, did you, like, have your parents come around now that you've had international success as Cromio? And also in your family, Dave, two children of musical success. Also, Alon, is that how you say, is the name, A-track?

Is also a thriving. Yeah, that was really good. Thank you. That was really, really good. Yeah, have they come around? Are they proud of you guys? My parents have been proud from day one. They never told me that thing about you'll never, you know, they were kind of more hippie, socialist intellectual.

So they actually, when I was in academics, they actually were like, hey, why are you doing this? You're not going to be happy. Blah, blah, blah. So they always pushed me more towards the music, the artistic thing. Okay, well, that's cool. I can't imagine what that might be like. Makes one of us. I know, makes one of us.

I mean, you know, I was also like such an. overzealous academic, you know, and I was like working on a PhD at Columbia and like really, really sort of like super specialized literary theory. So I think they might have been like, okay, dude, chill. You know, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. What about you, P? What the? So your dad said you can't be an artist and you were like, whatever dad, or however you say that in French. It was him and my grandfather. Whatever, papa. The only thing they agreed on was me not doing that. I still went to business school.

Oh my God, I went to business school too. I have a master's in business for the same reason that my dad was like, you need this. And I was like, okay, but I don't use it. I'm a podcaster. Yeah, I really used it. I actually never even checked on my grades. I just left the next day.

Wait a minute, Pete, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. He does a lot of our accounting with Chromio. He's extremely involved in the finances of the band, the bookkeeping of the band, like, super hands-on. He works on everything with our business manager. He's across every single expense of the band. And that, I think it's fair to say that you got all that from your business school and the accounting programs. No, I studied marketing. I got that from working.

Oh, yeah, you're right. You're terrible at marketing. You're actually a terrible marketer, so I'll take that back. I actually did not study accounting at all. Well, you just have a natural aptitude for it, clearly. Yeah. I've been closing account for 10 years old, and my parents' bodega, so that just came naturally. This whole time, I thought it was from your school, this whole time.

You're learning about each other in real time here on this program, 20 years in. What a beautiful thing. 30 years, excuse me. Oh, yeah, because... Well, 20 years of chromio, but 35 of... everything else. I don't know, 30, 30, 30, 30. I feel so fresh.

That's wild. That's a long friendship. Okay. Number seven. What was the last time you lied? The last time I lied today. Was it to me? Was it in this interview?

No, no. Exactly. Does this interview count? No, I had a date earlier, and I was like, hmm, this is delicious. Amazing. Like a date, like a dried date. No, no.

a date with a woman. Yeah. Human and we were eating. I didn't want to. Wait a minute. There's a web of lies here because you told us you didn't have dinner yet. It was like, you had to tell us you had a snack.

What kind of, was it the keesh? Was it gross? No, no, no. It wasn't the keesh. So you did lie. You also admitted something that you ate during the. This is a web of lies.

This is a whole web of lies. I asked you what you ate today. You didn't mention the snack that you said was delicious, but was actually disgusting. There's a web of lies we're uncovering. Are you afraid she's going to listen to this and you're going to be outed? Maybe she will. Did she make it with her own hands? Why did you feel the need to lie?

No, no. I didn't want to question her choice of where we went. It was like, yeah, it's amazing. And I had three bites of whatever we had. Well, I feel like you could have given her a little more credit to be a stronger, you know, in her convictions that she wouldn't take it personally that you didn't like the food at the establishment. Yeah, you didn't have the patience. Okay. Just you can't start a relationship built on a foundation of untruth.

I know. I know. Someone's been doing the steps. Someone's been doing the steps. Yeah, you don't want to get, you don't want to get step forward out there, step number forward, a possibly apostrophe D out there. Okay, well, that was easy P. What about you, Dave? What about you, Dave? What was the last time you lied?

This morning, I got into an argument with like an artist that, like a visual artist, that we were working with on a chromio-related thing. And we're getting into it because I kept giving him feedback. And he was like, well, you don't even like what I gave you. And I was like, nah, dude, I love it. I'm just trying to nail it. And actually, I don't like it. So that was my lie.

Again, it feels counterproductive, this kind of lie when you're trying. No, no, this is actually a productive. I'm sorry, Yassie. This was a production. This was a productive life. Because you think it'll elicit better work out of the person if they think that you're being more generous towards their work. Yeah. It's a way, it's a way to lubricate.

It's a lubricant for the whole interaction. It seems like most lies are either for lubrication purposes, which those ones seem okay for the most part, or for like self-aggrandizing purposes, which can be tricky. Or if you're like a sociopath for like completely nefarious ends. Just like real three categories of lies. Yeah. I like, I think there's a real art to lying. And Proust has, there's like really good passages in Proust about lies. And he kind of like makes a theory about, you know, he does this really cool thing about like,

like a lie has to have a piece of truth in it. Always like the best lies. I think even in Seinfeld they say that, right? So it's like the contours of a lie. it's like a puzzle a little bit. The contours of a lie have to fit perfectly with the contours of the truth that you integrate to your lie for the lie to hold up.

It is an art. It is an art. The Seinfeld theory is it's not a lie if you believe it. Yeah, which is complementary. But that's more of you in your delivery, right? You have to believe in your lie to convey it convincingly. But the lie in itself, when it exists in like the sort of crap, like in the atmosphere, in the ether,

it's got to be this little truth sandwich where there's lie kind of it's like a pan chocolate and the truth is like the little chocolate thing in the middle and the bread is the lie an extremely French conversation um well I'm trying to make a through line here I'm just trying to go for this kind of through right it's good I do I think if you believe your own lie you're actually delusional and insane so I would push back against that but like I think that's the very right I'll admit something to you guys. My whole life I've set out to read in remembrance of things past and I

fail every single time. I can't do it. I have utmost respect for Marcel Proust. Actually, this format of this interview is obviously cribbed from the Proust questionnaire, which then was cribbed by Vanity Fair. So this is kind of like a bastardization

of the Vanity Fair bastardization of the Proust questionnaire, which I always really love. Yeah, which was on the last, it was on the last page of Vanity Fair. I remember that. because it was in my parents' toilet. So I would read it when I would go to the toilet. Yeah, bong. I love that kind of way of getting to know a public figure

because I think you get to learn things that you didn't know before that aren't always related to their craft. The Proust questionnaire, I think, has nothing to do with Proust. He didn't come up with the questions. No, I think there's... Let me fact check this. I'm in real time. I'm in real time fact check this.

Yeah, let's real fact... There's a thing about the Proust questionnaire not having much to do with Proust. And I feel like we need to out this right now. Yeah, I think he, I think maybe he answered them. So he must have come up with them. Yeah, exactly. He's answered. Yeah, right. So, yeah. No, so look at this. So he answered the questions in a little book or whatever. The book was found in 1924. You have to presume he also wrote the questions. Not necessarily. I think it was like, it was like kind of a game. Maybe somebody else wrote the question. Anyways. He didn't have any friends. He had one friend. It was his mother. That's actually not true. That's actually not true.

Proust was like this kind of really annoying socialite in Paris who kept telling everybody who would go. So he would show up at all the parties and get all the tea from everybody and even bribe all the people that would work at the parties to get the tea. And he was way too old to be like a successful author because people all thought you had to be like 20 years old and full of inspiration. And he's already in his late 20s. And he was like annoying to everybody.

but he was almost like, I mean, I don't want to say he's annoying, but he was like a seamster. He was almost like Cobra Snake. You know what I mean? Not like Cobra Snake. I'm dead. But I love Cobra Snake. Much love to Cobra Snake. But you know, the guy you see everywhere.

And Proust kept saying, yo, one day I'm going to write the best book of all time. You don't understand. I'm going to write the best book of it. And everybody was like, yeah, yeah, Cobra Snake. Sure, sure. You got this Cobra Snake. And then he went and did it. So that's the Proust anecdote.

That's the thing is I'll never know. There's two things I'll never know. You've time. I've given up. I've given up on that one. What's the rush? And what's the, what's the very famous Russian one, Anna Karenina? So every summer I try to read Remembrance of Things Past, everyone try to read Anna Karenina. Thwarted by both. I never read Anna Karenina. The Russian ones are rough because the names are also similar and there's like 18,000 characters and they all have very similar names. And I'm like, I don't know who you're talking about. I didn't know you knew so much about Proust.

This is very interesting. Is it because of the French school? Well, no, I did it. But I was studying French literature. You know, I was doing like, I was an academic and doing that whole thing. I remember that vaguely remember this PR storyline. Yeah, I didn't look too super into it. Did you graduate?

I didn't finish my PhD, but I did undergrad masters and I did ABD, which means all but dissertation. So I did never, I never finished my dissertation in French literature, but there was a part of it sitting somewhere. Oh, that's incredibly impressive. I like Proust a lot, but whatever. I like other things. Did you choose French literature

because it's your favorite or because you speak French? Because we speak French. It'd be like, you know, somebody being an English major in America. It's kind of just the default, like, oh, I want to read. I prefer English, like not even English language, like British literature

to French literature. I mean, of course I can only ever read French literature and translations. maybe I'm not getting the whole beauty of it. But I prefer British literature to American literature also. So it's just like a preference, like a taste, you know? Right, right, right, right. That's all. Everyone is at this point checked out.

They're like, okay, cool, literature podcast. No, no, I just, I disagree, but I didn't want to say anything. I'm not, I'm very much checked in. I mean, it's literally a preference. Like, you're allowed to disagree. It's an opinion. I'm just a Somerset mom girly. Okay, that's just my vet.

Okay, what about the next question? number eight Oh perfect Perfect Segway What character in a book or a film Do you relate to the most And why

Oh that's so cool P? What Sorry, what book character? I said he P's really checked out Yeah he was like Proust babe I'm out

I don't care about this anymore He's probably I had to hear you talk about Proust For like the last like whatever 10 years that you were in school And he's like not this fucking man on again About Proust I don't have time for this shit

But we're back babe That I think That I think is very accurate. That I think is very, very accurate. Okay, what is the... What character in a book or a film do you relate to the most and why? Jesus. Jesus is a character in a book. Surprising to say you relate to him the most. That's a real, that's grandiose. There's commonalities. I too have a generous heart and a kind disposition.

And Middle Eastern. And in Middle Eastern, I also died for your sins, all of the things. It's very relatable. Okay, Dave can go first since this is his real time to shine with his French literature, almost graduated degree. Degree, I have degree. Anyways, watch it. Don't make me revoke your Canadian citizenship.

Please, please revoke my Canadian citizenship. Absolutely. Did you know, P and I are both, it's actually, if I can answer it for P, we're the stepbrothers. It's not even a question. We are the stepbrothers. From the movie with Will Ferrell? Yes, yes. That's who we are.

Cromio is our prestige worldwide. Wow. That's an incredible answer that I was not expecting. Like you were thrown together by circumstance. At first, you hated each other. and now you've made a lifelong lasting career and friendship. There you go. Why did you hate each other?

It only lasted a week. And they still can't touch the drums. Drum set, yeah, can't touch the drum set. That's really good. I need to know more about why you hated each other, though. You're like teenagers. Who was annoying? Who pissed who off?

Both. We both are annoying. We're like to separate. But actually, no, it's not the drum set. It's too literal. But actually, P doesn't love when I like, play with all the synths in studio and like start to I mean you know it's not as literal as can't touch my drum set but I don't think he loves yeah it's pretty close I'm saying we are the stepbrothers this is us it's even real I thought we were Wayne's world until stepbrothers came out and I was like now and I even thought we were like and you really felt seen I thought we were in Wayne's world I thought we were super bad and then when stepbrothers came out I was like now this is us it's important to have representation in film to see yourself in film.

100%. I don't know, P, you might disagree, but I think I think Step Brothers is really dead on for us. I think it's pretty dead on, yeah. Obsessed with how, again, high-brow low-brow, like just a full conversation about Proust, and then right into Step Brothers and super bad being. Late stage capitalism, Disco, baby.

You guys have a lot, very, so many layers. Okay, number nine, you guys, What was your biggest sliding doors moment? Sliding Doors is a Guadeth Paltrow romantic comedy. The question is, if you had made a different choice, you wouldn't be here today. Biggest sliding door. What does the sliding door mean? She just said it, Pee, pay attention.

It's a great movie. What happens is she missed in the film, she either gets on a train or misses the train and the timeline split. And then there's two timelines. So this is not really an accidental thing I'm asking. you though, it's like a decision you made that changed the trajectory of your life in the most meaningful way. Meeting Dave.

Aww. Yeah. Even though you hated him at first. Aw. Deciding to like Dave, like bearing the hatchet with Dave. Yeah, I don't think

we would be, I mean, you know, maybe I would have become an accountant. Maybe I would have, you know, if I didn't, share, let's say if I didn't share such a strong passion on very specific things.

We go in on stuff. We studied funk music. We collected records. And to be in a band with somebody for so long, your references have to be so exactly the same and you have to agree on every single

name me bands who lasted that long. You too. There's always a moment we're like, well, I don't agree with your creative decisions anymore and blah, blah, blah. well, you know, like we don't have to do that shit. We, you know, we see eye to eye. We're still interested. We're still curious about music.

We still discover shit. You know, we still have the same references, whether they're visual, musical. Just not prused. That's not a shared reference. That's just a day of reference. No, sometimes we each kind of school each other on our little niche areas of interest, though. So, like, I remember there was one summer I took like a really intensive Latin program where I actually sidebar now. I forgot everything, but it was this program where you learn four years of Latin in three months.

And it was less than three months in 10 weeks. I'm sorry, you learn four years of Latin in 10 weeks and there's even classes on the weekends. And I did that one summer. And I remember, like, we were on a road trip driving somewhere and I was like giving Piaoli's crash courses on Latin stuff. So we actually know there's, we're always like teaching each other about our separate interests, but then there's a huge pool. The punk umbrella is, you know, we're in it.

We haven't caught any rain outside of that. Would Dave, would that be your answer to your sliding doors? I feel like with an answer, I feel like this is the moment where we might start taking separate. I can't top that answer. Yeah, yeah, totally. It's really beautiful. It's really beautiful. I'm kind of jealous about this Latin thing.

I'm also the kind of mentally ill, annoying person that always deeply wanted to learn Latin. I forgot. If it makes it feel better, I forgot. Yeah, but you probably retained some cool stuff like, oh, there's where that word came from, you know, whatever. Yeah, you want to know where vagina comes from? I don't. Yeah, you do. Okay, tell me. Vagina comes from the Latin word wagina, which means a sheath, which means a sheath.

The sheath, the thing you put your sword in. I love that that's the one thing you remember. I mean, that's really the water cooler one, isn't it? There's a few other ones, but that's a real conversation. An ender or starter, depending. Bit of an ender, I think. Yeah, totally. But luckily, I'm a professional.

Depending on the red state or the blue state. I don't know. Anyways, go on. Let's move on. All right. Number 10. What characteristic are you most drawn to in other people? Intellectual curiosity, which doesn't mean you have to be an intellectual, but it's

open-mindedness. Because I don't, I actually, even though I did academic studies, I really don't care. of somebody, or I don't judge people who haven't pursued academia. I couldn't care less. In fact, I think I'm way more often impressed by people who haven't, who don't have an academic background than by people who do. But there's something I really value and it's open-mindedness and, yeah, an open-mindedness, I guess, and being, being like down to learn about all kinds of things. Being open-minded is almost like passive, but it's a great trait. But being in actually curious is active. Like you have to like seek out information like pull threads and want to

keep going down and down and down and down. It doesn't have to be that deep, but it's like if if, if, if let's say like you're, you know, you're having coffee with somebody and that person is like, yeah, like I love mushroom picking. Then like if you're open minded, you'd be like, that's cool. Like, tell me all about it. Like what's what do you do? Like, do you have a basket and do you do this? You know, or but if you're not open minded, it doesn't have to be like, super nerdy and you're going to Wikipedia stuff all day. But you know, just just kind of. I do do that for a job. So, but yes, I hear you. That says a lot about you. It's, it's, it's, it's amazing. I think what you're picking up on is like there's like a selflessness to being curious about things outside of yourself,

which is like a really, because it actually shows a super strong sense of self because you're not, do you know what I mean? Like, I think people who don't have a strong sense of, you know, self are not curious because they're like constantly sort of afraid of losing their own boundaries of self. I've never heard that. Yeah, of course. I think that's so perspicacious. I really agree with that because they have a sense of self that's so fragile so that they kind of gatekeep it. And by safeguarding it's so hard, they can't open their minds or their arms or whatever to any outside information.

You know what I mean? I think that's right. I couldn't have said it better. Well, you said it so well. Yeah. It's like, you know, when you go to a party and you talk to someone and they just talked about themselves, then it's often because they have low self-esteem, you know, like, whereas like you can tell someone who's like self-assured because they'll ask you so many questions about yourself, which I think is the best thing. That's why I love this job, because everybody is so interesting. Everybody. Like, without fail, every single person is super interesting. And the people that seem boring are the people that have low self-esteem because they've

convinced themselves that they have to hide the unique parts about themselves because they think they're bad. But those are the most interesting parts. Oh yeah. I could go on about this shit forever because I feel like that's very sad because there's like a samification of people and that's what makes people seem boring. But it's only because they've buried the very cool and unique and interesting parts of themselves. Well, it's a super generous way. It's a super generous way and almost like a humanistic way of seeing people to posit that deep inside, there's something super interesting. Beautiful. You just got to get it out of it. You got to get it out. Yeah. And some people just are able to have it on the front end. What about you? P. You don't have to answer this one if you don't want to,

but you're welcome to. I was literally going to say the same thing. And that goes back to what I said earlier about a meeting day with such a key moment in my life is that when you share common interest but also the the hunger for information, the hunger

for new things, learning new things at all times, discovering stuff you know, there's really no, nothing better than that. It's like a real definition of relationships should all be built on that. I agree. I totally agree.

Worst is when you like try to start a relationship with someone who clearly has no interest in who you are as a person and you're like, what are we doing here? Yeah. Yeah. I like sex. Sure. But or like it can even be like past that where they like sort of like they objectify you in not even a sexual way and just like in a way that. And just like in a way that like they're not interested in getting to know who you are. It's just who you are in relation to them. You know?

Yeah, of course. Okay. Number 11. Who is the last person you met that you were starstruck by? Showbiz. Tinseltown. Oh, no. I just had someone.

My God, I just forgot. Wait. Go ahead, P. Me, it was Prince. Ah! Yeah. I didn't really meet him. He was one feet foot away from me.

for a period of 45 minutes. I mean, listen, I'll take it. That counts. I was struck. Was he DJing or he was just sitting there? We were both watching Janelle Monet on a side stage. I was blocked off for him. I don't know how I ended up there.

I don't know why I wasn't picked out of that area. It was him, two bouncers and me. I ended up there after one of our shows in Montreux. And I just, I lost. always remember that I could smell his perfume and see the layers and see the layers of makeup on his face. Yeah, yeah. What was that close?

I need to know. I need to know. What was the scent? Fuck, I don't remember. It was, he had a lot. You know, when somebody has so much perfume that you can't really tell what it is. You know, it's really crazy. I got to go to one of those 21 night stand shows.

Do you remember that when he did the 21 nights at the forum? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was latter day, very latter day, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a couple, I think a couple years before I, no, not even a couple. It was like definitely 2008, nine or something or 10 maybe.

Yeah. Yeah. My friend was close friends with his DJ. And so we were like literally in the front. I was saying next to Magic Johnson. It was insane. Like Prince like sweated on. Wait, who's the DJ?

Who's the DJ. DJ Rashida. Yeah, of course. I love her. Yeah. The best. Yeah. So she was at the time was, I don't know if she's,

whatever. I don't know how long she did. But so that was the craziest thing. He literally put the microphone in my face when he did nothing compares to you as if I was going to sing. I did not do that. I had a panic attack. But then afterwards, he DJed his own after party the entire time in the forum club. Again, I didn't really meet him either, but that was my closest experience with Prince. And I'll never forget it as long time. It was really smart. I think it was like a, A, I think he probably was a control freak as we

know and so wouldn't want anyone else to play music and also likely didn't want to talk to anybody and so it was like a win-win on his part he got to control the music and no one could really talk to him because he was DJ the whole time yeah yeah I have a funny story about he's about Prince's crazy mind so a friend of mine dated J-Lo Jennifer Lopez yeah okay just just to be clear he was a dancer in her video he ended up dating her. They were in one of those you know, hype New York clubs

in 2004. It was like butter or something. Yeah. Him and Jalow sitting. Prince is sitting across in the VIP area. He sends his bouncer to talk to J-Lo and he's like, Prince would love to meet you. She gets up.

My friend gets up. He's like, no, no, just her. Not you. Like, honey, is it okay? Yeah, yeah, sure. Go meet Prince. She sits next to him. He ignores her for about 11 minutes. And then he turns to her and he's like, did you ever dream about me?

And she was like, what the fuck? No. He's like, you will. And then he stops talking to her. That's the exchange she had with him. It's the truth. And then that night, she did dream about him. It's a real enigmatic person.

You guys read Shnade O'Connor's book. No. There's a really insane prince story in it. Like really insane. Not in a good way. Not in a good way. Right. But that's pretty good.

Okay, Dave, what about you? Who's the last person that you were star-struck by? I can't, oh, I just don't like this giving you this answer. I kind of feel we should stick with peace because mine is a little great coupon. And then, and then like people... You mean like two French? It's like a long-d-long-lo? No, it's no, no, no, no.

Not too French, just a little, it's a little high-browage. Pretentious, that's the best kind? Oh my God, please tell me I got a no-now. You think I can't, I'm not going to know, no, I need to know. Paula Cooper, the gallerist in New York, lives in my building. And Paula Cooper, back in the day, I'm going to show you something. Back in the day, Paula Cooper was, like, stunning. And obviously now I think she's got to be in her 70s, maybe even older.

So I saw her in the elevator. Yeah, I mean, this was her back in a day. Oh, wow. It's a little blurry, but I get the jest. Yeah, Gorge. I did a little Google myself. She's very, very proud. I found her, yeah.

Yeah, and so, and she lives in my building, and, like, she had like a Paula Cooper gallery tote bag because I live right next to the galleries in Chelsea. And so I was like, oh. And then I was like, oh. And then I got out. I was kind of starstruck because she's a legend. She's a bloody legend, mate.

Never be ashamed to be who you are, your own great coupons, okay? I know, but, you know. I was also struck by Celine Dion when I met her because I had a huge crush on her. That is a huge one. When did you mean Celine Dion? But we were kids. In Montreal and so, I still have a crush on her. You met her when you were a child, Celine Dion?

No, we were kids. We were teenagers. She was recording at the same studio. walk through the hallways, ate lunch next to us at the cafeteria, and I couldn't, I was... She ate lunch at the cafeteria? That's shocking. It wasn't a cafeteria. It was like a dining area, but she was there. Those are good ones. I'm glad you included a French or a Canadian person to be proud of your heritage. Okay, number 12. When was the last time you slid into someone's DMs?

Today. Who was it? And what did you say? You don't have to say who exactly it was, but... What was the context? It was actually, it's a girl that we've been following each other for like literally 10 years since the beginning. And I don't know why just lately she was like, hey, you're in Paris. Yes, I'm in Paris. We should meet. You look like you're single now.

Very good. I really think Instagram is the only acceptable dating app, in my opinion. Totally. Like, I prefer IRL, obviously. I'm clinging to a 90s sensibility that no longer exists and I don't even know where I would meet someone IRL because I don't go outside

to places where people are. You don't go in the RL? I don't go RL too much to be TBQ-ish. I go to the gym every morning which is a group classes and it's mostly women but every man in there is married.

I go to the grocery store sometimes. Sounds like L.A. not a lot of opportunity. Do you know what I mean? And even at the grocery store, like... If you go to Airwine, it's like being on Raya. I don't want to meet anyone who goes to Erwan.

I'm ashamed of myself that I go to Erwan. Do you know what I mean? You do? You go there? I'm like a bit of health motivated. So there's like several items that I buy there. I don't grocery shop there because I'm not insane. Right.

So you go, so I go to Air One for the supplements, right? Is that the thing? Not even the supplements. I, those you can get online and cheaper. No, it's like meat. Oh. Like good quality meat because I'm very particular about what kind of meat I eat and I don't live too close to a good butcher. So like I know I can get like really good like grass fed, you know, organic meat.

I get my raw milk there because there's only two stores that carry raw milk and they're the only one that carries in a glass jar. Okay. And by the way, can I just sorry to interrupt. I'm going to start to do it. I relinquished my great coupon award. of this podcast. This is not really great. This is more, listen,

I'm really health and fitness motivated. And I think, actually in France, it's quite easy to get raw milk. You can get it at almost, what do they call them, biologiques or whatever, which I loved that about France. You can just go in the store.

Because in a lot of states in America, it's illegal. In New York, you can only get it from a farm. You have to go directly to a farm. Correct. Yeah. In many states, you can't get it all. In England, do you have to go to the farmer's market?

That's right. I love raw milk. So I know it's whatever. I'm not going to mean I don't air one. Yes. I used to make cheese. You used to make cheese? Oh my God. P. Can you tell me a little bit more of this? Because I did order, what is it called? Meziofeelius. Renee to make the culture. Yes, yes. Yeah. It's in my, I think it's in my freezer right now. I'm just a little intimidated. But I really want to do it because I want to make raw cream cheese. Yeah. Wow. That's the best way to put. They don't sell it. So I have to make my own. Okay. We'll talk some cheese mongering. offline. 24. 24.

24. Number 13, what is the horniest song ever in your opinion? I feel like you guys will have

good answers for this. I mean, there's a Ray James one. I don't know if it's politically it's called 17.

Yeah, that's horny. It's pretty horny. That's like fucking about this stuff. It's talking up with a 17-year-old.

Well, in most states, that's legal. so we can allow that. That's only to be outdone by Hey 19 by Seeley Dan. But okay. So we don't even have to go too deep, but I will just encourage anybody to Google the lyrics to Brown Sugar by the Rolling Stone.

And tell yourself that the original and the original title of the song, it wasn't the word sugar. So then you can replace and there you have it. This is? It's foul. It's foul. I'm not sure I was like super familiar

with this song. This is an insane premise for a song. It's insane. It's insane. I'm kind of unwell right now. And no one talks about this. But it shows you how much we've regressed as a society in terms of like freedom of speech

and censorship that that this song. is now, that something like this today would not be acceptable. I don't know. Maybe it's some kind of progress or it's a mix of progress and regressions. You really opened a bag of chips here. Yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to sound too red-billed, but like, because I'm not. But I mean, it is, it says something about the 70s. I think you could write a song like this now. I don't think people would accept it. But I do agree that hopefully it means that less people are thinking it's a good idea to write a song with this premise, which is more what I'm tripped up on. Not necessarily that it came out. I'm just like, were people not listening closely?

No, people are listening. Go, I mean, yeah, I don't even want to, it's beyond. It's beyond. It's really beyond. I don't even get into it. I don't even want to, I don't even want to go there. I don't talk about making cheese. That's what I was, I was so comfortable talking about making cheese. And now we've got to talk about the brown sugar. Oh my God. God. This is so crazy. Crazy. You went ahead and stole music from black people.

Then you went ahead and stole music from black people. Okay, let's move on. Number 14. What is the biggest money you guys ever turned down? This is not the pandemic. We don't. We don't turn down. Yeah, we don't do that.

We don't do that. You never, I mean, this is more a question that like punk bands tend to answer differently. But like, so you guys were never like, whatever, it's fine. Not the funk lords. Yeah. You're like beer commercial, ISIS Airlines. It doesn't matter.

We'll cash the check. It's all fine. I mean, here's the thing. We're a Jew and an Arab. So it's not like the NRA or like, you know, fundamentalist Christian orgs are coming at us for paid opportunities anyway. They do have big budgets. Yeah, it's true.

Yeah, well. So yeah, no, I don't know. I can't pass. Okay, great. I always tell the story so I have to tell you guys because I just think it's so good so far the

unmatched answer to this is my friend Jeff Rickley from the band Thursday they were offered $1 million to be an American Express print ad and they said no

oh wow who's Thursday Thursday is like a Jesse what what genre would you call Thursday post post hardcore emo

emo third wave emo I don't the taxonomy sort of escapes me here is that is where are they

where are they still active? Yeah they're still active still they're they're pretty big in the in that community and that genre that's cool

sort of like later warped tour you know what I mean Gotcha yeah wow that's incredible I can't I couldn't be me babe I would have taken

every dollar of the million dollars I'd be like yeah what do you want me to do But, you know, it was a different time. Okay, number 15. What is the best live show you've ever seen? P&I went to Lollapalooza, 1994, together, when it was still traveling.

Yeah. When it was a traveling festival still. And we were 16 years old. We were just kids. And we, I don't even know how we. We snuck in, and it was... Smashing pumpkins played that year. We didn't have any interest in smashing pumpkins.

It was a tribe called... Poor taste on your guys' part, but okay, go on. Parliament Funkadelic and the Beastie Boys back to back. Wow. That's amazing. Unbelievable. I remember P&I literally being euphoric. Yeah.

That's so... Like literally being euphoric. Yeah. I feel like people... I didn't go to 994. because I was, well, I was 12. So I went to 95. You can't express what those were like.

Like, the beginning of alternative culture really taking a foothold into the world and, like, going to a thing like that and being surrounded by weirdos and feeling so excited and there was like cool shit to buy. But it wasn't like, it wasn't like now. It was like, you'd be like, wow, I wouldn't even know where to get this like. Pin. Whatever. Yeah, hemp fucking whatever. Like, I don't know. Like, a mushroom patch.

Like, just like, cool. It was all kind of head shopping stuff. But, like, it was just so cool. Like, it felt exciting. And I can't explain if that's because we were young. And so the world just felt really exciting because we didn't know anything yet. We lived in a world before that was mainstream. And now there's no such thing as alternative culture.

It just is the culture. And it's crazy to think that, like, there was a, a time where you really had to seek it out. And it was so cool when you found it. Yeah, there was a time where, I mean, we're similar in age from what you just said. A little younger, but okay, sure, similar. Not that much. Not that much. But there is a time, I think what you're referencing is that you could look at someone on the train or on the bus, look at what they look like, and be like, oh, I could be friends with this person. We like all the same stuff. Totally. And I think it's kind of cool that because of our, like I said, similar age, you get a little bit older. And they had it in some ways better, right? Because they were old enough to like see stuff early and whatever. But they were way snobbier. Because like for me, I didn't really distinguish the Beastie Boys from Nirvana from like, sure, sonically. But like I, to me, it all came in in one flood on MTV. So I wasn't like, like, that's not.

legit or that that didn't come from the right community you know like so I was able to sort of experience at all in this sort of like open way where I think a lot of people like sort of like now had to come back around to things that they like rejected initially because they were older and they're like well that's not like that's not punk or like whatever you know right anyway so that's very cool that sounds like a very cool lineup um and I think the matching pumpkins are very good me personally number 16 When in your life were you the most fucked up wasted hammered trashed? That must have been at my 18th birthday and Dave was there too.

Was it my 18th birthday? Yeah, it was. I mean, what did you do? What happened? We went to a strip club outside of Montreal. This doesn't sound, it sounds like we're making this up, but it's true. Like in the sticks? Literally in the woods.

It was like the spot in Twin Peaks where they go like in the woods there. where Jacques Renault takes them in Twin Peaks. Yeah, yeah. So it was in the woods, and it was actually rumor-hatted that that was a strip club that was owned by police so anything could go down. And so it was like one hour outside. Yeah, it was one hour outside of Montreal.

We all went there, and I guess, yeah, P got pretty. It was pretty hammered. Turning 18. Turning 18, two really tall twins took me on stage, took all my clothes off, made me sit on a chair. And that was a special event. I was hammered.

I still remember walking naked through the club to go get my clothes back. Iconic. Honestly, an iconic 18th birthday. I don't think I did anything even remotely close. I don't remember why I'm 18th birthday. Okay, well, I don't think, do you have an answer that tops that, Dave? Like, you went to jail? No, no. No one does. It's really good. Okay. We're so close. 17, 18. These are tandem questions. What do you love the most about being famous and what do you hate the most about being famous? And don't say you're not famous.

That's exactly what you want to say. You're on some level a notable person or else. Why would you be on this podcast? I don't just talk to people off the street. Although I would, but I don't. That's not the premise. Yeah, you sound like you would with all the really generous things you said. What I love the most is actually you said you don't talk to people off the street But what I love the most is that people off the street will come talk to me Right And I'll come and say I'm a fan and then you get to talk to them Yeah and then we get to get a cute little exchange and it feels really good What I hate is I can't like fart or pick my nose in public

Is that the only thing stopping you? Yes It's not like people recognize us everywhere sure and we're Justin Bieber but that one fan a week that comes and says hi at the airport if I were to fart in front of that person or pick my nose you would be humiliated

I never take the risk sure okay well I'm glad that you have some guardrails because of this there's no saying what I would do if I you know okay that's I'm dying okay number 19 Number 19 is the wild card What kind of guy do you think I should date?

What kind of guy you should date? It's just like based on your on your minimal knowledge of me from this interview. Dave follows me on Instagram so perhaps he has a broader understanding of what I might be like. I don't want to say too much.

Oh, you're going to actually set me up. Oh, I didn't, I wasn't even going there, but I love this journey for me. Well, I'll just say, well, I'll just say, someone whose name you could pronounce surprisingly well. Leave it at that. You know what? Actually, I ran into someone whose name I can pronounce surprisingly well at Diplos Grammy Party last year. That's right. I docks both of us just now. And he was with a lady friend who did compliment my purse. She was very pretty. Yeah, he no longer is.

He no longer is. He's for the street. I was more asking. I was more asking broadly characteristics, but, wow, one straight to. Well, no, but I think this person whose name, whose name you pronounce, surprisingly well, has great characteristic. I happen to know them very well. But anyways, that was just my answer. Okay. Wow. Well. Well, well. You guys, more will be revealed. Look at this. All right. Aren't we, we're all from, this is three people from, what did you call it? Collectivistic cultures. This is what we do.

This is what we do in collectivistic cultures. It's so true. It's so true. Listen, I'm open-minded. You know, like, I do sometimes get heroin delivery. I have problems. Okay, I'm not a perfect person, as Hoopistank would say, but I bring a lot to the table. Well, join the family.

Number 20. When was the last time you cried? Tears. Fuck. January 2nd. Okay, oddly specific on the date, but what happened? I went to Lebanon after New Year's. As soon as I land there, I just start crying on the plane.

It's a whole thing. Yeah, oh, that makes sense. That's landing. What about you, Dave? I don't remember. It was messed up. I don't remember. Actually, no, that's not true.

Are you not a big crier? No, no, I've become one. It's crazy. Ever since I got a dog, I'm super. mushy. It's insane. It's crazy. So now, sometimes when the plane's about to take off, I look at pictures of my dog and videos of my dog on my phone.

And then, like, I almost have tears. Like, they come really close. And I have really become mushy because, like, we have two managers, and one of our two managers got married a couple of years ago. And we were at the wedding. And P was sitting next to me. and like the families and stuff were doing speeches about the groom and the bride. And the whole time I was doing like, oh, aw. And Pete was like, dude, what are you doing?

And I was like, what am I doing? I'm not doing anything. And then like there'd be another. And I'd be like, yeah, yes, yes. And then PEO, be like, dude, what are you doing? What is this? Who are you? And I was like, nothing.

I'm not doing anything. And then I realized that my dog is, but other people told me this. And that like I got so much musher ever since I got my dog. And so that's that's what makes me cry most of the time. Yeah. Dogs open up your heart. They make your heart bigger and make you feel emotions deeper. Well, I don't know if you're saying that.

I don't know if you're saying that ironically, but I actually think it's the truth. No, I, well, I don't know if you, you probably don't know this, but I adopted a dog in early December and she got really sick and didn't make it. And I only had her for six weeks. so I actually am being completely sincere, like to another level because like it was such an intense experience and really emotional and like, I'm not going to cry. But yeah, I really, I think it's really extremely, extremely real. Yeah. And now I'm in the phase where when I see people walking their dog, I get mad because I'm like, why do you get to have a dog that lived?

It's a very healthy and normal reaction. I think I'm going to be fine. And it's just like phases of grief, you know. But again, there's a 12 step. There's a 12 step for that, by the way. But yes, go on. Honestly, probably. Okay, number 21.

Usually this question is what is your greatest regret, but I've taken to changing it. And the changed one is what is your relationship for the Dave Matthews band? That's dope. This is Dave Matthews band? I've never heard one of their songs. Never heard one of their songs. Okay, that's a lie because everyone, I think everyone on Earth has heard crash into me. impossible to exist on this earth and not hear crushing to me. But secondly, I don't know what that

song is. I don't believe you. Maybe. Maybe I've heard it. But we love them. We respect. We really respect them, though. We have mad respect for them not having known their music well. I think as musicians, you guys would have honestly a real respect for them. You should take a gander because these are jazz trained musicians doing some really incredible stuff. I think you should give it a chance. This is a reference we have Dave Matthews band. When we're in festivals and there's a band on stage and we're like, this is very Dave Matthews. But how would you know that? You haven't even ever heard Dave Matthews. An adjective. It's in the look. It's in the, it's in the, you know, it's in the swag. It's in the demeanor.

There is a lot of swag. Dave Matthews himself has a lot of swag. This is the, it's an adjective of ours. Well, I am a huge fan and I am on a crusade to get people. to show respect. To like Dave Matthews? Not even just to like I just, I think a lot of people don't even give it a chance because they have preconceived notions, which I don't think is very intellectually curious. I actually weirdly, they popped up on my Explorer page today and Dave Matthews was doing

this crazy dance like this kind of like running man thing. Yes. Is that a thing? I mean, he's a, he loves to, they play some funk music sometimes. That's why I think you would like some of their music. music and he is a free, he's, he's free, okay? He doesn't hide the unique parts of himself. He's very much open and proud. And I, I think you would enjoy it. I'm down. They had Thundercat come out with them last time I saw them play. They're, Dave Matthews band

Renaissance is upon us. Exactly. They would. By the way, Coachella, Coachella, um, 2028, I could see Dave Matthews making a special appearance. I think with my tire, tireless efforts to bring Dave Matthews to the level of the Grateful Dead, who is not as good, in my opinion. Right. Okay. Number 22. What song would you like to hear?

Yeah, go on. Sorry. What song would you like to hear just before you die? When the Doves Cry. Can I Live? Can I Live? A more strange choice, in my opinion, but I don't want to police. It's funny, right?

You're about to die. You play Can I Live. It's funny. You're going to use your last moments on Earth to make a joke. Yes, definitely, absolutely. Absolutely. All right, number 23, what do you think about me? Funny person. I feel like we non-kissacidly showered you with compliments on this interview. No? Does that mean you won't give me more when the question comes up? I feel like it's nice to spread joy and love wherever you can.

All right, you ready? You ready? I got some. Yeah, I'm ready. Affable. Oh, thank you. Evoncular. Avuncular. Not avuncular. Which is like being like an uncle.

Yeah, okay. So you know that much in Latin. All right. No, intellectually curious. Definitely someone has good recovery. Someone with good recovery. Someone who believes in HP, in the redeeming powers of HP.

I learned all that from my fiancé, by the way. I don't know anything about that stuff. It's all secondhand knowledge. I mean, HP is shorthand for anything that you would want to call the universe, God, whatever. It's really up to you. It's not program specific. I think it's anyone can have that if they want, if they open their mind. Right.

But yeah, but to most people, to most people without, you know, that kind of thing, HP is a British steak sauce. Sure. It doesn't. I think you've got a very, I think you're, you know what? This is the compliment. I think you're a humanist. I think you're a humanist.

Because not only because you seem interested in the humanities, but also because you really, what you said about finding something interesting in everyone, even the people who are not interesting, that really touched me. I never heard it worded like that. And I think it's really, yeah, it's really deep. Thank you. Well, as I like to say, either everything is God or nothing is God. So if everything is God, that means everyone is God.

And if you have a deep affinity and trust with God, you have a deep affinity and trust with everyone else. See, that's a little too airwant for me. I don't know if the heroin shoppers share that mentality. I don't know what the last time you went to Arawan is. I think they have a bit of a different. Oh, right. It's true. It's true. You're right. You're so right. Okay. Last question. Number 24, what do you want to plug?

Plug? That's right. That's why you came on this program. Our new album. That's right. Our new album. Adult contemporary. It's out February 16th. Is that correct? Yes. Did you enjoy it for real? Or were you just saying that? Did it resonate with you in anywhere? Yeah? Yeah. It's fun. It's not a very enthusiastic. It has a, it has a real. like, I just really liked the lighthearted spirit of the music with the sort of heavy lyrics. Like, I really liked that. There you go.

Okay, thank you. You don't often get that. And I think it like constantly kind of caught me off guard in a cool way. That's, that's what we aspired to do on that one. Okay, cool. Good listener. Good listener. Good listener.

I mean, I feel like I had to pull that compliment out of you. I'm not going to lie to you. I think you thought it was all right. I gave it to you in the beginning. Listen, I'm a 90s guitar rock-centric person, so it's not my genre of music, but I thought it was really good. Like, I enjoyed it.

It's just not my genre. You know, like, I don't know much about this kind of music. I'm very stupid when it comes to music that's outside of... It's not your cup of shy. I'm a guitar rock girly. Well, it's good that you spend time with this. We have a lot of guitars. Anyways, thank you.

We'll dig into Dave Matthews for the efforts who put in our music. Thank you. I think that's a beautiful trade. David Matthews will make it. Next, next Chromeo album is going to be heavily Dave Matthews band-inspired. Mark my words. Thank you for coming on the show. Bonge.

Come back next week for a new episode of 24-question party people. Bonge. Thanks for listening to 24-4-1. Thanks for listening to 24-question party people. And thanks to my guests, Dave One and P-Fug of Chromium. Chromeio's new album, Adult Contemporary, is out February 16th. Visit chromio.net for tour dates. This episode was produced by Jesse Miller Gordon and Chris Sutton with help from Justin Sales. Our gorgeous theme song was composed by Heather Fortune.

Special thanks to Amelia Kiesler, Sean Fennessey, Rob Harvilla, and The Compass Function on my iPhone. Come back every Tuesday for a new episode of 24 Question Party People on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. Party people.