Bandsplain - 80s Soundtrack Hall of Fame with Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Yasi is joined by Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey to discuss what music best represents the 1980s and build the Bandsplain ‘80s Movie Soundtrack Hall of Fame. They set the rules (sorry, no animated features or scores), decide what truly defines a great soundtrack, and, after some heated debate and meandering side quests, settle on the top 10 Hall of Fame-worthy soundtracks! Host: Yasi Salek @yasisalekGuest: Chris Ryan @chrisryan77 and Sean Fennessey @seanfennesseyProducer: Rob Sundermann Editor: Chris SuttonAdditional Production Supervision: Justin SaylesTheme Song: Bethany Cosentino Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's with this band anyway? I don't get it. Can you please explain? Wait like Bansplain? Hello and welcome to Bandsplain. I am your host, Yossi Sallek. This is usually a show where I invite an expert guest on to help me explain a cult band or iconic artist. Today's episode is a little different, you guys. Today we are creating the Bansplane 80s soundtrack's Hall of Fame.

And I'm joined by two men, two princes, if you will, no spin doctors, but also yes, spin doctors. Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan. Welcome to the program. Hi. Can you guys believe it? Thanks for having me. In the midst of Sierra Month. The waning days.

Fresh off interviewing Stephen Spielberg, these people have downgraded to come here to Bandsblane. That's not true. That's not true. Will this be released during CERMA? This will be released in two days. Wow, quick turnaround for Bandskraine. Yeah, not a usual thing for us. I know. How can I screw this up so that's not the case?

We wanted to capitalize on the momentum of CR month. Makes sense. You haven't vocally disavowed the Nazism of the germs yet. Yeah, you need to do that. I'm happy to do so right now. Do not support any Nazi adjase content, period. But the direct content is okay. No, not a fan of that either, but I hope that goes without saying.

Well, you can never be too safe is what I've learned. That's a good point. You guys, are you excited to do this particular thing? thing. Yes. What are we doing? We're drafting, we're making a Hall of Fame for 1980 soundtrack. No, I understood the introduction. But why? Yeah, why? We're doing

this because I need content because they can't do a full-ing bandolet every week because I'm only one woman. And also, we've done a lot of drafts and I was like, what could we do that's not a draft? And then I looked to my great light, the big picture podcast. Wow. And I was like, oh, these are fun.

Hall of Fames. And I initially thought we would do the thing that you guys do on the Hall of Fame episode, which we went when we'd go through every single soundtrack released in the 80s. And then Chris Ryan, Lazy, was like, no, I don't want to do that. No, I just thought it would just be a tighter, more entertaining show for our listeners if we argued about some things that we brought to the table. I thought it was very funny, actually, that you framed it that way, that you framed it both as argument and fighting when you presented it, because that's not how I thought about it. But I'm interested in our different approaches. I actually brought more than 10

because the Hall of Fame will be 10. And I was hoping you could guide and help me. So this is sort of like... And together... You're running the Kennedy Center now. And we're kind of helping you, you know, configure it the way... Well, it is the Bansplain 80s soundtrack Hall of Fame.

However, I want, like, I need your... I need to... We're in this together. I feel like we need to... Can we go back one step? Sure. Why the 80s? Well, I didn't. I wanted to start when soundtracks kind of started to like really pop off.

Okay. I know there are some good 70s soundtrack. I was famous like Shaft and Saturday Night Fever and stuff. They're not really bandsplainy. And we will be doing episodes about each of the 10. Really? Yes. Was that a line? Did I not tell you that? Well, I was doing that more for the sake of... So I feel like you were hiding the ball there.

That's really the takeaway is that this is almost like the kickoff of a new theme for you. Of a new concept. We've done soundtracks before. Right. You came on. But using and like, first of all, I'm like honored and moved that you would do such a weird thing of like crafting an introductory episode to an idea and then extending that idea over several weeks. Who did I learn that? Who did I love to do?

Yes. You know, have you heard what's about Stockholm syndrome? I think I'm on my 30s. No one is holding you against your will. I'm like, March Bandness, babe. Are you ready for this? Dunana, bum, bum, bum. That's me.

I'm here. I'm wearing a sports jersey. Have you watched any March Madness basketball? No. I didn't, I'm not aware of what's happening in that sector of the world. I think that go to them though. You have been unfairly characterizing much of your own ideas as things that you have been forced to do as though we were kidnapped by the ring. This is like always one of the funniest things is getting lassoed in.

to one of these projects with you and then have you be like, oh, twist my arm if I must order things and rank them. Did I say that? All I said was that I have adjusted. I have acclimated. I have evolved into my new home and circumstances happily, gracefully, gratefully, with great enthusiasm and joy, actually. There is a time when we would be on week six of recording Jimmy.

That's what I'm saying. So everyone has grown and learned. Tom Hanks narrating episode 21. Ken Burns presents, Bansplain presents Jimmy World. Exactly. So, you know, I'm just, I'm happy to be here. You're thriving and I love the idea. I think it would be fun, no?

Yes. I wanted to set the table a little before we start. This is also a thing I learned from you out just to put the parameters in. I personally decided, since these are going to be Banspline episodes, scores are not eligible. Yep. Because that is a boring episode, respectfully, to people who make scores. Although, obviously, many fine scores in the 80s, gorgeous things. Beetle juice.

Last Emperor? Okay. Last Emperor? I mean, John Williams' films, you know? There you go. Good stuff. What about the mission? Speaking of Morricone?

Homeboy, the Mickey Rourke film, has an original score by Eric Clapton. I haven't seen that. Okay. Homeboy. Yeah, I didn't know about it. I learned about so many movies doing this research, which I was actually. actually really excited about and I want to talk about them, perhaps not as part of the Hall of Fame, but maybe as some on-roll. You could do, you could do like a catching up with all the movies

that we didn't talk about episode if you were still looking for content in deep August, you know? What did I say to you guys? You were built in the lab to make podcasts because the way your brains, I think, do you think you've rewired your neural pathways at this point that like, well, the funny thing is that my main outlet for podcasting does not really employ any of these Right. So you have to know. It's just a pure marketplace of ideas. Uh-huh. Very valuable marketplace. It's like a bizarre that people come to and they select what items they want. How would you describe the men that come to that bizarre?

To listen to the watch? I think we have a thriving female audience. Have you ever checked the actual numbers? No. Okay. So you're just assuming on vibes. I have. Of the watches? Yeah. I wouldn't share that here obviously. Yeah. You're welcome to. Who do you think has more male percentage ratio of male listeners, Bansplaine, or the Lever? watch? I think it's a neck and neck race. Yeah.

And we love you. Keep coming back. I had a couple of procedural questions about, like, not even procedural, but like, kind of like philosophical questions about the whole thing. But can I tell you the end of the rules first? Okay. The other ones are, I did not, I'm not allowing documentaries. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Or musicals. Like original musicals, because that's cheating, I feel like. Okay. Little shop of horrors. Gotcha. You know, Greece, too. Fox, there's, you know, like streets of fire.

What about a movie about you from a musician? Spinal Tap or whatever. Spinal Tap. That is eligible, I think. Those are kind of movies that have music performances in them. We're going to fudge it a little, but I think that's, and no concert films. Okay. Okay.

The Talking Heads concert film is from this year. Rital and Hum. Yeah. Rattle and Hum also. And this is very sad for me because an American tale, Bible, is really important to my childhood, but we will not be putting in. Or decline of Western civilization. Or erg, a music war. Do you feel like, as a group, as people who are curating this list for bands playing listeners,

we should be going for films or soundtracks that rep the 80s or 80s movie soundtracks that are just great? I'm so glad you asked this question because I was like, oh, we're in a table set on our value systems. For me, what is meaningful to me is representation. Representation matters, is what I'm saying. But no, that's kind of what I was looking at. But then obviously, still some other things get through that are just great. But they also still have some representation.

So the answer is just go with your heart. Okay. I have one more. I mean, I could probably pin this to one of my selections or one of my suggestions. Would you rather I do that? I don't know. I don't know what the question is. For you guys, how much does one song power a soundtrack?

That's a great question because it's like, Did you ever know that you're my hero? I didn't. Everything I would want to say. That's from For the Boys. Beaches. Beaches, okay. What's the song from For the Boys with Bedmiddler?

Different Bedmiddler movie. I know. For me, when I was looking, I was like, that's not, that doesn't, that's not enough for me. That's how I felt. I was like, there's some soundtrack that just have a God tier one song. That's what I'm saying. So, like, shaped culture. But then the rest of the soundtrack is like,

mid to ignorable. And I was like, that, because kind of how I think about it, and maybe this is incorrect or maybe it's not about being correct or incorrect, is that soundtracks were portals to discovery. Like, we're not, it's going to be hard because we're not, we're not really talking about how the music appeared in the film. We're talking about how you could buy this CD and go home and be like, wow. Now I have a new order song and a psychedelic first song. I think so. I mean, obviously, some of it's going to be tied emotionally to how the songs appeared in the film, that's, you know, you can't get around that. But that's just my

take on contracts. I mean, I think it's also probably important to note that they're tools of synergy and the rise of conglomerations of major media corporations like when Universal and Sony and all of these companies started taking, started becoming not just about making one

type of media. Right. That they... Like, how can we squeeze... Well, they would say, like, we have bans on Columbia. Yeah. And we have this Sony film. How do we make, like, make like, so that we can make more money. And a lot of these things that we venerate,

for obvious artistic reasons, are just the product, especially in these cases of like, well, this was convenient because these guys were on the label. Yeah, I think some of them. And then some of them are like autores who really deeply care about music.

Yeah, I mean, to Sean's point, there's also examples of the soundtracks leading the way for the movie. You know, like the soundtrack being so popular that the movie gets a longer window, has a second life. People are like, you got an amazing example for that. I do.

I feel like me and you will have a overlap. Well, we almost wore the same shirt today. I know. Really? My black and white shirt was in the wash, though. Yes, me and Chris had a best friend night on Saturday in which we went... She keeps calling it that. We went to go see Angel Dust.

Best friend night. You guys went to a concert together. Why isn't it a best friend night? But I just... I thought it was interesting because I think I can't remember where you shared this. It was because when we went to Boston, I was like, oh, we're best friends now. Yeah. We spend four days together nonstop.

And then I was like, oh, it's so. sad. I miss having our best friend time. And then I was like, oh, let's go to this show and it's a best friend night. And we had dinner and went to a hardcore show. You know, because it is CR month, there's been like a real like, no, but CR's my best friend thing going on. We just had a very funny example of it yesterday on the rewatchables with Bill and Andy and myself. And, you know, this is like a spell that Chris lays upon men and women, You know, where he's just like, he lures you in. And he's like, come spend three days with me in an eastern seaboard town.

And then you'll think we're really close. That's not, what are you talking about? We've been really close for decades now. He just said that we're not really close. It's really hurtful. Listen, I don't have the wool over madness. Like, I know that Chris Ryan is out in these streets hoeing friendship-wise, okay? I know that I'm not number one on the best friend call sheet.

I'm just trying to say, protect your heart. That's all I'm saying. Where do I land in your best friend list? Am I like number five? You're high up there right now. Yeah. I've kept my circle extremely tight in my 40s, and I feel good about that choice. The back when I broke into number five, I feel pretty good about. You're just, you're, you are present, and I appreciate that. Not everyone is present.

Me and Zach and Amanda. My daughter. And your daughter. Yeah, that's pretty much it. No, I have a great many friends, but not many that I see all the time. Okay. Anyway, so we bought the same merch shirt. This shirt is from the show on Saturday.

That shirt. Oh, that shirt is from the show. How was the show? Good. Really good. Really fun. Wow. Yeah.

That's great. Nothing else. That's it. Two of the elite cultural commentators. Definitely check out Angel Dust's cold to the touch. And if you like it, get ready because Yasi's got the singer from Angel Dust Justice Trip on a future episode of bands play. Sure do. Wow.

Also, Chris is going to be on. But I don't think it's going to make it into Sierra month. Okay. You guys are just alli-ooping each other here. This is really something. Do you feel left out? This is what happens like three people go on a trip together. Yeah.

A vacation Yeah, it happens. What can you do? Well, I'm so thrilled to do this with you guys. Thanks for inviting us. If I haven't mentioned it. I still don't really know

how this is going to work, but I'm going to roll with it. I don't either. I mean, I knew how it was going to work when we went through every single sound drive's ever come out. And now maybe we go around and each nominate one

at a time. How does that? And then we can litigate. And then we can still do your colored card system that you do on. If you'd like, it's up to you. I find that to be useful.

Red, yellow, green. Yeah. I feel like that's a nice... Because I actually kind of have like 15. So I... Sure. You think maybe at the beginning it's kind of like must-haves, right?

That's what I was thinking. These are essential. Immediate greens. And then it's like, ooh, I can make a case for this. And then it might just be like... Probably not going to go with me on it, but I got to say this one.

Okay. I think we have to start with purple rain. I was going to say the same. That's the greenest of greens. even though it's purple. I did not know whether you felt like this broke any of your self-imposed rules of whether it's like a musical or a performance, like a concert film. But if you were making a list of just albums of the 80s, I think PurpleRend probably

beyond it. I just think Purple Rain transcends category. Okay. Don't you think? You've never done Prince on Bansplaine. Oh. Oh, you've never done prints on Bansplain. You've never taken six months of your life to research the career of one of the

greatest artists of all time. No, Chris, I have it. Thanks for pointing it out. It sounds like you said you should get your shit together. I just meant that as like, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you've done it. And I think that would be cool if you did, but don't stress yourself about it. I feel a little not equipped to do it because I feel like one of the major parts of Prince's is musicality and famously I don't understand. People who know like Prince Scholars are intimidating. Yeah. When they're like, actually, it's this, the lost tape from the recording of Raspberry Beret that it features the B-side.

Right. That has like a mandolin on it and it's tuned down or whatever. And I'm like, I don't know what that means. But I'll get a taste of it. This is a good place to tease a forthcoming Madonna month in May. I'll probably get a taste of the deeply knowledgeable and passionate fan base. Isn't Rob Harvilla a huge prince? fan. That would make sense. I think he

is, and I don't know that he's a scholar and I know that what you're talking about, there's a certain type of person. It's like I've devoted my life. The Allen Light, like I wrote a big lawyer. Didn't Wesley Morris do a whole podcast about Prince? Who? Wesley Morris? He had a podcast called Do You Like Prince Movies? Which I think touched on Prince, but

it was also a marketplace of ideas and style shit. Got it. Yeah. Okay. You ripped that show off? Is that what you're saying? No, I was just saying it's like a chat show. I see him and Alex Papadena. Wow. Novel. I mean, Purple Ringgo's crazy. I really like Prince.

I love his music. I like this movie a lot, too. I don't know the history of the soundtrack versus the film. Were the songs written specifically for the film? Did they predate? I actually don't know either. I assume that he was, like, getting so big that they were like, we got to make a movie with this guy.

And then he was like, well, it just so happens. I have 10 of the best songs ever written. So let's play Darling Nicky, you know? Yeah. I kind of think that is what happened to. I actually didn't dive into it because I figured, one of us would know, but it's not a musical. They're not songs that are like

furthering plot or whatever. Yeah. Do you have a favorite Purple Rain song that isn't Doves Cry Purple Rain? And let's go crazy. I think they're all pretty special, computer blue. Like, I... So I just read that after the success of 1999, he went to his manager and said,

I must be the star of a studio movie. Like, I want to be in a Hollywood movie. And so that's where this came from. But it's a little unclear to me if this was like an album that was already going and they found a way to bend it around it or what specifically. It's fascinating. I mean, you know, famously like not a very long album.

What's the last? Almost every song is featured in the film. Yeah. What's the last pop star who's tried to do something like this? He's like, I'm going to make a movie. Or I'm the star and there's... Robbie Williams just did it. Oh, yeah, I guess that's right.

That's true. But yeah, but didn't he include songs from his like past? like his uvra. He didn't write like new songs. For the film, that's a really good question. I'm sure there's got to be one in the last 15 years. It'd be cool if like the deaf tones did this. Deftones.

Yeah, and you were in charge. Like if there was like a movie, like, because like the thing is like, princes and prince in this movie. He's like up and coming, right? Oh, what about eight mile? There's not a whole album of original songs. Is there not a lot?

There are a lot of songs in the soundtrack and he's on, Eminem's on a few of them, but it's not an Eminem album. That's crazy. I feel like it came out very shortly after the Marshall Mathers LP, so it was sort of like, I don't know, he's crushing. Oh, 2, yeah. Or maybe it's right around the M&M show. He already had albums kind of in the mix, but, and that soundtrack still sold really well.

But that is different, too. It's a really good question. I'm trying to think of an example of an artist who wrote songs for an album and then made that part of the spine of a movie that they starred in. If I had a terminal disease and I had to make a wish. Okay, like Make a Wish Foundation? It would be for you to do Eminem on Bandsplane. Could do. And for you to have to, like, read long stretches of Eminem lyrics.

And that would be actually really fun. What are your thoughts on Eminem? I actually love Eminem. Yeah. I was at the burger shack down the hill from my house the other day, picking up a cheeseburger and some fries. And while I was waiting, they play music videos on the thing. They were playing the Real Slim Shady video.

And I was like, it used to be a proper country. It's a special time. I don't make this shit anymore. I also saw Eminem perform very early on at a warp tour. He was on an early warp tour, and he got booed off stage. They pelted him with water bottles. They hated him. It was when just real sub-shady had come out.

And he just wasn't that famous yet, and it was like the complete wrong environment, I think. Oh, you would think it would make sense, but he hadn't, like, broken through yet. I think part of it was because they didn't know how to market him, and they thought because he was a white rapper, like maybe he was going to be able to get in on that like kind of like skate punk rap rock crowd but it really like more real rap fans liked him more than than that like body count played the same orpter and was welcomed with open arms that's like a metal band yeah yeah um i like him too i mean i don't really anymore but i did a lot the first five or six years it means to like you can't here's the thing men if you're listening please don't dye your

facial it's just never it's not looking the way you think it's gonna look That's my PSA. Have you considered that? No. You've been dying years for years. Are you not, I mean, I didn't know you with hair, but are you not kind of blonde anyways? Right. It's red or red blonde, yeah.

Do you used to be quite dark? I just imagine if you died of like an Auburn color. You look like a lepricon. That's not very nice. It's just not because he looks like a leprechaun. Just anyone with a red beard kind of looks like a leprechaun. That's a hallmark of a laptop. 19 bands playing listeners just went unfollow.

You don't think you have a red-bearded listener out there? I'm sure I have multiple red-bearded listeners out there. And again, keep doing you a bit. So I picked one. That's green. Okay. Yeah, good job. Fenrock.

This is not 1980s, but I do think the Ramones for Rock and Roll High School is like the closest we can get to the Purple Rain thing. Oh, that's really good. Good pick. Right? That's really good. That's probably, I'm sure there's others. But okay, Purple Rain is a must. Similarly, I think

do the right thing as a must. And kind of an interesting one where it seems like at first all you can hear is fight the power famously in that opening credit scene. And that wasn't the introduction of public enemy, but like public enemy being forcibly shown at a wider pop

culture that maybe wasn't paying attention to hip hop till that point. But then also like, you know, EU and Steel Pulse and Teddy Riley and Guy and all of those acts are all on that album. Yeah. And...

Was it the Rubin Blade song is last on that record? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Al Jereau. Like, there's a bunch of... Mostly R&B songs on the album.

And, you know, there's obviously a DJ, the Sam Jackson character who's kind of communicating throughout the day with music to the people of the community. Yeah. And I think it's like one of the three or four most important moments in the mainstream infification of rap music in America. So... I have like a little pushback.

Okay, go ahead, pushback. Okay, hear me out. Yeah. Wild style. I kind of feel like is a better hip-hop soundtrack. More discovery. Is that what we're talking about? Yeah.

Is it a better sound... Do you not think it's a better soundtrack? Well, this raises an interesting question that we don't really have an answer for when we do the Halls of Fame on the Big Picture, which is, is it? important? Is it impact? Is it personal taste in terms of quality? I think it's all up for discussion, obviously. But in terms of seismic impact, I would say Fight the Power is a much more culturally significant song.

It's kind of like what Chris said, though. It's just the one song. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, I think that there are other tracks like the die track on this. But I also think that the importance of like fight the power being used over the opening credits in a way that was so rooted in music video culture at that time, if not like the editing style, but the idea of signing your document, like, in the first minutes with, like, a battle cry song and, like, a really beautiful piece of choreography is, like, very distinctively 80s and coming out of, like, the power of MTV at that moment. I think it's green. But if you feel like, I mean, you could say wild style if you want,

and we could put that as green or yellow. Well, the weird thing about it is, I think if you were talking about the quality of a hip-hop album soundtrack, I would go crush groove over Wild style. There's also crush-groove. Because crush-grove is like in the mid-80s in that synthesis moment

where we're kind of moving beyond Grandmaster Flash and Mali Mel and kind of going towards like L.L. Cool J, run DMC, Beastie Boys. And... You also have Chaka Khan, Chile. Yeah. I mean, and just song for song. I prefer Crush Groove

if you're talking about those early films Sound for song I would probably almost go tougher than leather That's true, that is a soundtrack I guess I don't think of it like a soundtrack Has Mary Mary on it and beats the rhyme Yeah, you want to limit this to one rap Focus album as well Only because not because

That you know, just because Bansflane and me and my ability to tackle a rap album It's probably going to be difficult Let's give it a yellow for now. What would you most like to spend time breaking down? Probably wild style. My argument for wild style is more that like

it launched like a thousand ships like massive, the members of massive attack heard wild style or saw wild style and were exposed to this music and like it changed their lives and how they approached, you know, DJing and then it ended up splintering off all these genres. I think it was such an important cultural moment

for the early spread of hip hop whereas like I totally get what you were saying about by the power it's like so iconic yeah it's just two different things right yeah it's an age thing too it's like I don't I don't ever listen to wild style me either and I didn't listen to the fight I was one when it came out and experienced it in my life

but I'm just trying to imagine you know what like what if you picked up the CD would have changed your life in a different way yeah I've thought about this a little bit Because there's, in the 70s, there's a great example of this, and in the 80s, there's a great one, too. But there are soundtracks that are going back to the 1950s and the sort of like origins of rock and roll. And you don't find a lot of people that go back to the origins of rock and roll these days where they listen to like 50s rhythm and blues or duop, even though those sounds are so instrumental to the Beatles or the Eagles or whatever like evolution of rock and roll it comes in the next few decades. Grandmaster Kaz is kind of like that with the 50s where it's like, there is no rap without him.

and without Cole Crush brothers and a couple of those other artists. But you don't hear those songs like at weddings. You know, they don't, they haven't like permeated the cult, the popular culture in the same way. It's true. So it's, it's up to you in terms of how you'd want to spend your time, I would say. I would say, make that and Wildsdale yellow. Okay, we'll make them yellow for now and we'll really,

it's a great, it's a great conversation. It is? Yeah, I figured we would have it fairly early. It's like, it's the thing that I have probably, like, studied the most as well in this particular world. And I think wild styles are, really cool movie. We'll do the right thing as a masterpiece. Masterpiece. But

just like the way that I really like when new genres of music come into other forms of media and the way that, like this is a case where using a movie to popularize a subculture is really fascinating. But Wild Style was not like a very popular movie.

No. It was kind of an underground. Yeah, I think it was pretty underseen at the time. Okay, I'll do my absolute green. Yeah. Pretty and pink. Great. Okay. Yeah. I feel like Pretty and Pink has, I mean, if you leave by OMD, written specifically for this film. I think it has like the first inclusion of a Smith song on a soundtrack

that kind of like helped bolster their popularity in America. Obviously the film was like kind of inspired by the psychedelic first song. Pretty and Pink, it's just Walde Ball Bangers, New Order. Bring on the dancing horses. I'm not saying all the names. Nick Kershaws, wouldn't it be good? Low-key. I would say this is my second favorite John Hughes soundtrack. What's your first favorite?

My first, we were going to have the conversation. My first favorite's Ferris. Oh. So I was going to ask, do you need to put a cap on the number of John Hughes soundtracks? No. I really like Ferris, too, but I'm not even sure if that's my favorite. What's your favorite? Breakfast Club and some kind of wonderful are really good.

I think there's a case to be made for weird science. It's like a pretty bold act of soundtracking. 16 candles? Did that have a great founder? I didn't have 16 candles on my list. I had Ferris because I think Ferris represents a really 80s

like eclecticism that was sort of a big offshoot of like college radio where it was like I like weird new wave novelty songs and also like electronic music and twist and shout and I like John Lennon but also I like

like Joy Division, you know, kind of thing. Joy Devon's not on this. But the Beat City, the yellow song, then the Dream Academy cover, please, please let me get what I want. I think, and this might be incorrect, but I don't think it had a soundtrack that was commercially released. What?

Ferris Bueller's Day All. It came out briefly. Like there was a brief, like, we're releasing the Ferris Bueller soundtrack, but I think that it's like, it almost exists as a mixtape. Interesting. Does that count? To me, it's probably

the, personally, the most indelible soundtrack of my 80s experience. Interesting. I wonder if it's because it is a little different from a lot of the other John Hughes soundtracks, which feel like all songs that were written for the films. And this is much more of this, like,

calling from the past than including some contemporary stuff to represent what the kids would like. I don't know. They're two totally different, styles. Isn't big audio dynamite on that too? I don't know. Maybe they both are belgible. I would say that in the same way that Ferris, the character

is popular with like dwebes, jocks, et cetera. There's something for everyone on this soundtrack. Like, it's Sierra Month. You're the fairest of our lives. No, come on. Yeah. On the float, right? Would you ever want to be on a float? Like a parade float? Yeah. And singing, Twist and Shout? Why would I have to sing? Well, I guess he doesn't see

You kind of lip syncs, right? Oh, in the movie. Hit us with your public waving stance. That's nice. That's weird. I know, it's a little weird. It's like kind of like, oh. Well, we can give them both yellow. I just like, me personally, I think the Ferris Bueller tracks are weaker.

I guess it kind of goes back to me. Yeah. Let's do my other, one of my other musts would be repo man. Oh, yeah. Well, I have that. Speaking of soundtracks that feel completely ingrained in the culture of the film itself. Yeah. And an example of a soundtrack that led the way for the movie to get a more wide release

and have like a longer kind of shelf life with film-going audiences. And this is Alex Cox's 1983. Four. Movie about Go Nowhere, Nileistic Southern California, punk rockers who become a punk rocker who becomes a punk rocker who becomes a Repo Man with Harry Dean Stan. Amelia Estevez plays Repo Man. And then the soundtrack features Iggy Pop's titular Repo Man Zong. Yep.

And then great collection of Southern California, punk rock, like Black Flag and Suicide Offendencies, et cetera. Yeah. I mean, I'm a hard yes, hard green on this one. I think it's very... Bivitle. Well, yeah, it's just like it's like a slice of life, right? Like you buy the soundtrack and you're like, oh,

get to see what a scene looked like because it's very much a scene of Los Angeles and apart from the hip-hop thing. Circle Jerks, Black, I mean everything you have. I think Circus shows in the film. A lot of stuff is shot down here where our offices are. Very bandsplained-coded album and film, I would say.

Just in terms of style and taste and the kind of like absurdity of the movie and how it intersects with some of the absurdity of the songs, too. Can I just throw something out that I think is you may not be interested. that in this, but it's on the long list. And it's an interesting topic of conversation because of the way that we consume culture now.

There's a somewhat less celebrated movie nowadays called Good Morning Vietnam. Yeah, sure. Which was Barry Levinson film starring Rob Williams about an armed services DJ during the Vietnam War who has a kind of like irreverent style speaking to the troops over the airwaves.

And he only plays 50s, and 60s, rock and roll, all stuff that's been approved, basically, by the armed forces to play. But the things that he says and his commentary is very, like, sometimes incendiary and sometimes kind of, like, subtly. Well, Bruno Kirby wants him to play Perry Como. Right. And then he starts playing Motown, right? Yeah, nowhere to run, you know, and songs like that, which are obviously, like, all kind

of subtextually speaking to the conflict in Vietnam. The movie is, like, good. I like it. I think it's sturdy and well-made, and Robb Williams just gets to, kind of riff like times a million because of the format of just playing a DJ. Yeah. But the thing that the soundtrack did is that it retained his introductions. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And his dialogue from the movie so that as you're listening to the soundtrack, you are listening to him set up scenes and set up moments in the film through this broadcaster persona that he has. And I listen to this soundtrack all the time as a kid. And then as I got older, you know, this is something that like Quentin Tarantino adopted and you find in his movies, where you get snatches of dialogue or the Stephen Wright

DJ character from Reservoir Dogs appearing on the soundtracks. And I think this is the first movie that ever did that. Did they not do that in graffiti or anything like that? Probably not, right? There is some Wolfman Jack

on the American Graffiti soundtrack, but it's not utilized in the same way. And it's just really entertaining. And like a fun... It's like an innovation, I think, in terms of soundtracks. And the songs are all really good. You know, it's like the Beach Boys

and James Brown and Van Morrison and the Vogue. And there's a ton of great tunes. It's not 80s music, though. That's, okay, so interesting. The other one that I was going to throw out there, this goes hand in hand with Good Morning Vietnam, would be the big chill.

Yeah. And I obviously have that on my long list. Those ones are tough because I feel like in my rubric, it's on like a force-combe soundtrack or whatever. You know, it's like, is this indicative of what was going on in the 80s? Not really, right? No, but it would be indicative. of boomer's taste.

Sure. I mean, it was... Big Chill and Good Morning Vietnam are 1980s movies that are celebrating the taste of people who had the experiences that the characters had in the movie. Yeah. I'm not saying

they were wrong. No, I don't. To do so. I'm just not... I don't know if it fits in with, like, what we try to talk about here, you know? So we're continuing to...

I just don't think it would be that interesting. We're continuing to unpack what the mission of this project will be. Which is... For you, you wanted to represent. present the music of the 80s. Yes.

Okay. Okay. That's kind of an interest of mine with soundtracks is discovery and like showing people a thing that's contemporaneously happening, but also because it would not be interesting for us to do a bandsplain episode about songs from the 50s on the Good Morning Vietnam soundtrack. I don't know.

You'd be surprised. You think? I don't know. Like James Brown and Van Morrison are like as much bandsplain to me as pretty in pink. You know, I don't, you know, in terms of... Well, when we do the soundtrack, we don't talk... We talk about, like, how... You've done them before with us.

We talk about how these songs end up on the soundtrack and what part they play, you know, and I don't know if, like, there's that much there there to be like, I just like the beach whiz. I get around. But I think, to Sean's point, yeah, music is very integral. Like, the way that they use music in Good Morning Vietnam

and the way it's, like, right there with the character. I would say also with Big Chill, songs are played diogenetically, so, like, they'll be dancing to Motown. in the kitchen or they're shot almost like a music video. So like when the weight, the band song, the weight is used in the Big Chill, it's basically like a music video of these people waking up after a night of doing drugs. Right.

But I hear what you're saying. Let's see how many, let's see if there's any spot for boomers. Okay. With like the 10th pick. Let's see if we have any room for the boomers. What's your next must have? This is a film from 1989. Written and directed by Cameron Crow.

And it is called Say Anything. Okay. The soundtrack is just gorgeous, babe. Is the soundtrack gorgeous or is in your eyes gorgeous? Babe, you have Taste the Pain by Red Hot Chili Peppers. You have Depeche Mode song stripped. You have within your reach, one of the greatest replacement songs that has a weird drum machine.

I feel like it's a very cool and interesting soundtrack. But yes, in your eyes also very gorgeous. Got some Satriani. Got some Satrians, babe. Where are you guys at on Satriani these days? It's a nice punchline that I always used for men that, like, complicated guitar rock playing. But I don't know much about him besides that. When I was into hair metal, he featured heavily in Circus magazine.

Satriani, Steve Bai. I'm more of a bye guy. A bye guy. This work works for you, even though there's like some Dylan and Steely Dan. Not on the actual soundtrack. Oh, okay. The soundtrack is just 10 songs. Just all the, like...

And now, this, again, like, was Colter Personality... Ishbone is on here? Living Color is on it? Was Culta Personality released before this movie came out? I don't know. Off the top of my head? This part of it is interesting to explore. Right.

Because Cameron Crowe, obviously, his whole life is making mixtapes. He's one of the great soundtrack makers because he's so good. You know, Fast Times is also a really good soundtrack. It feels similar, but also different because it's pulling from, like, what was on AM radio like five years before the movie came out. And that, like, defines some of the taste of the kids who were in high school at that time, which I was thought was such a smart idea. Yes, it came out in 88. The Living Color came out.

Yes, the lead single off of their album, Vivid. And Peter Gabriel's In Your Eyes not written for this movie either. So, like, you're interested in, like, a jukebox kind of a thing where somebody is, like, pulling from the contemporary hits. Yeah, I mean, Repo Man, there's one song that's written for the film. The rest were just tapped and cold. They existed, you know. Sweet. I'm just trying to learn about you.

Yeah. What's like, what's in your art? I love to, we love to learn about each other. Here's a fun fact. Well, you probably know because you've seen the film, but that mother love bones, Chloe dancer,

Crown of Thorns, is featured in the film, but not on the soundtrack. I love that song. Why didn't it get to the soundtrack? Maybe he was saving it for singles. Because there's also two Soundgarden songs in the film,

but not on the soundtrack. It's like he was already kind of like gearing up for the vibes of singles. And isn't Nancy Wilson from Seattle, and that's also part of how he became so hooked in with Seattle. That's the whole way he got hooked in. I'm glad to know that your memory is just as adult as mine because we did the single episode together.

Did we talk about that specifically? It was a long time ago. I guess we did. I can't remember. How many years ago do you think that episode was? Probably two. That can't be true. Well, now she's getting into the possibility of redoing

because that's the whole March Bandness thing is possibly redoing some of the movies. Well, some of those early episodes are very short. Two and a half years. It was October. So you were like, the episodes are really short. Then they got super long. And now they're kind of in the middle.

They're still pretty long. Yeah. I think our Jimmy Earl was four hours. Yeah, it's true. So I don't know if we got that short. I just let the people, I'm letting the people vote. I'm letting democracy guide my hand. It usually works.

It's been a very much of recently. I mean, people are really mad about it. And I was like, well, this is look at your. What's winning? What's been the highest vote getter thus far? Um, it's funny because you could tell that the last four were like supposed to be the last four because the two last races were super tight. Yeah.

Um, but REM beat the replacements. I saw this and I was so upset. I know. And it was like 51.49. Yeah. But it's not a vote about who's a better band. Well, some people did probably treat it like that. The guys with red beards.

The red beard. They're like, Arr, it's time for me to vote for this. Yeah. That was a good one. Have you spent much time with REM recently? Recently? Yeah, we've in the last five years. You and Bill Berry one wrote three.

Select songs. Did you, Stipe came out and sang with who, with Michael Shannon's band? With the R.M. Cover band. Shannon fronts the R.N. Yeah, yeah. With Jason Nardousie from Supertrane.

Yeah. And what did he sing? Something from, I don't know, the Fables of the Reconstruction. That's what it was. Yeah. And he sounded good.

Yeah, he does. People who love REM are like Grateful Dead people. Like, they're so deep. I know. And beloved and the attention I'm like one tier below that

It's where I am. Same. And I love R. AM, but it's just the replacements are fucking cooler. So I just like

spending time with their story a little bit more. Me too. You know, they're the best. Arlen one I miss them

replacements by too. Anyways, I can still do whatever I want. I can do them both over again. Are you making you say anything green?

Um, well, I don't know, you guys seem kind of like meh on it. Should we throw a yellow and see

what we come back to? This is a process of discovery. Because you might say it right now. Married to the Mob. Oh, I have that. That's also what am I mean. I wanted to highlight a Jonathan Demi movie

because Jonathan Demi has such great music taste and he makes, stop making sense. And he directs New Order music videos and has always used great music in his movies in new and surprising ways. But Married to the Mob is just like an incredible snapshot of New York, New Jersey, Long Island cool of 1980s and it's got the Phillies

and Tom Tom Club and order in it. I think it's the first appearance of Goodbye Horses. It sure is. God tear. To me this is like... To me you are perfect.

I was the right way to say this. The cooler version of a John Hughes soundtrack. Yeah, totally. Like more edgy. I think very early appearance of Shnay O'Connor, which is really cool. Yeah, opens the film.

Yeah. One thing I really like that he does in a lot of his movies is he just meets artists and he just build scenes around them in his movies. And so they go to the club in this movie, they go to SOBs.

And they watch an act perform. And that act, like, it just gets to do their music. What's the other Jonathan Demi movie that also has a bunch of feelings? Something wild. That was, like, on my kind of long list because also has such... This one's just better.

That has a lot of feelings. That's like basically... It's a sort of fact by the feelings. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of more postpunk. This is like a real... He's really in a world music. Like, he really picks him all over the world.

But like, he puts Robin Hitchcock in his movies all the time. This soundtrack weirdly reminds me a bit of the soundtrack to Carlos, which is Olivia Asayas' two-part Carlos the Jackal, the sort of 1970s terrorist. Okay, well, it's really cool because it's about like this guy going all over the world and pushing his agenda. But then all the soundtrack is wire, Phileys, new order, stuff like that. Now I'll check it out. Yeah, this is really, this is on my short list as well.

I'm sorry. Best friends. I've not been keeping up. So what do we have right now? Just give us a little recap of what we've got so far. And we're not keeping track of it. We have green repo man. Purple rain, married to the mob.

And then we have yellow to the right thing. Wild style. Pretty and pink Ferris, Bule. Day Off? I'm going to pitch one. Oh, and say anything. I don't know that I like it. Okay.

But I do think it's important. That's Top Gun. I think you can make the case that Top Gun is really just two songs. That it's Danger Zone and Take My Breath Away. But they're such big songs and they're so instrumental to the movie.

And then in addition to that, you do have, like, Great Balls of Fire and we're playing with the boys the Kenny Loggins song. You've got Heaven in Your Eyes, the lover boy song. There's like,

there's some popular songs here, but then also lots of older music too that is prominently featured. And this is the movie that it was accused of really like a music videofacationing cinema and kind of like ruining movies in some ways

and also kind of making them more appealing to broader pop audiences. You don't think it ruined movies you love it. I'm not a top gun person. I've said this. I mean, I think it's fine. I much prefer Top Gun Maverick.

There's like kind of a sheen of cheese on Top Gun that I never really connected with. It's just a little hokey to me. But I know that, you know, millions and millions of people absolutely love it. And it is really, it's doing the thing that you're describing too, which is like the sound of this music and some of these bands like Berlin. Yeah. It's so evocative. Like 80s to the max.

Like they couldn't exist in any other decade. Totally. And it's so funny because I feel like it. my mind, there's two, like, huge soundtracks of the 80s, and it's Top Gun and Dirty Dancing. But Dirty Dancing, even though, like, I want to kind of shoehorn it in, is doing the thing that I already said that... You can't put Dirty Dancing in, unfortunately. I mean, you can, but it's...

But it's all old songs except for... She's like the wind. Shout out my man, Patrick Swayze. Right. Yeah, I feel like the most popular song from the Dirty Dancing soundtrack, besides those two, was Stay, which is more than the 50s. A fantastic song. Also in the grease,

Grace soundtrack. Incredible song. Yeah. So we're making this yellow or green, top gun. Why don't we put it in yellow with the likelihood it'll be in green? Yeah. When I was doing, so I did my own personal list of just like off the top of my head soundtracks before you shared your longer list.

Yeah. And the first one I wrote down was repo man and the second one I wrote down was Top Gun. And the third one I wrote down was Purple Rain. Okay. So yeah. So we're doing, we're doing well. I'm going to do value roll. Cool.

Cool. 1984. Prime Nicholas Cage ours. But the soundtrack is, so we kind of covered, I feel like, we've talked about several strands of like popular music of the 80s

or maybe not popular, but like important subcultural music of the 80s, hip hop, punk. This one's new wave, right? Mm-hmm. And it's got limsels. It's got Josie Cotton,

Johnny Are You Queer. Sparks is on here. It's a good lens on, like, what was happening with like, this kind of music. I figured it was going to be hard to build this Hall of Fame with you without Ballet Girl. So in 2019, we did this podcast series that Amy Nicholson hosted called Quentin Tarantino's feature presentation. We presented five movies to him that were critical to his life, development, taste, personal experience.

And Amy and I picked them together and kind of looked at lists of movies that he had talked about in the past or that seemed to be instrumental. to his life, and we picked for him Valley Girl. And he talked about Valley Girl at length in the episode is really interesting. And he was a little bit mixed on the movie itself, and he was a little bit like, I'm not totally sure why you picked this for me. But then once we got him talking about it,

and especially about the music, his recall is just unbelievable. And he talked about how when this movie came out, the songs that were in the film were still playing on K-R-R-R-K. And I remember this vividly because he pronounced it K-R-O-Q, and I'd never heard anybody say that, and that's how he says it.

People used to say that. Some people say it that way. But he was talking about, I don't know, like you can be hearing a spark song or something on the radio and then that appearing in the movie and how crazy that was. And that in and of itself is a really interesting accomplishment of being able to really be so tapped in. Sure. Your movie moves so fast that when it hits the world, it feels right on time. I think we can't help but be biographical and maybe a little bit like West Coast-centric in this.

I mean, like we are who we are living where we are. So this makes a lot of sense. It's just like also like it's just super strong. It's like bangor after banger. There's like no dead space on the soundtrack. If you bought this, you'd be like, hell yeah. Okay, you're yellow or green for that? I'm going to green that one.

If you guys feel okay about it. We'll see where we're at the end. I think we still have to have a John Hughes fight. Yes. We may have to like get the actual songs out and be like this is better. I want to throw something at you guys, which is like we're obviously talking about broadly cool music. Right.

And we've discounted music that is like oldie station soundtracks like Big Chill and Goodwin in Vietnam. But what we haven't discussed is soundtracks that have Dio and foreigner on them. So I want to nominate two and we can have this conversation. One is Vision Quest. Okay. Which has Crazy for you, which is my favorite Madonna song. And that was like basically the video is just Vision Quest footage.

Yeah. But it also has like Sammy Hagar and foreigner and John Wade and Dio. And it's kind of like more the kind of 80s rock you would hear on the radio in the Pacific Northwest. The other one I wanted to throw out was Color of Money, which is glossy 80s mainstream blues rock from like Clapton and Don Henley. And it has World Wars of London, iconic use of that song. But neither are like cool new wave. or cool alt rock from that period, but both are probably

like a way more popular collection of songs during that time period was like Don Henley and Eric Clapton. No, I think I wrote this down where I was like the chokehold that Rick Springfield and like Boz Skaggs had on the soundtracks of the 80s and you're like, booked and busy,

Rick Springfield in the 80s. I am generally not a fan at all the kind of music on the Vision Quest. soundtrack, like that is just not my bag. Like, foreigner journey, Dio, like, I don't care for that stuff at all. The Color of Money soundtrack is interesting to me

only insofar as it's something that has happened many times over the years, which is Robbie Robertson getting in Martin Scorsese's ear and being like these songs. And he's done, he did it like 10 or 12 times. Departed. Yeah, departed Wall Street. Like, there's a lot of examples of him just being like, this is what's cool to me and this is what we agree on.

And it's often blues. influenced or blues based, but not always. And this is probably the most pure blues soundtrack he's ever done. But it's kind of funny because it's like definitely like classic rock guys who've got cool 80s haircuts and have like nine person bands and horn sections now. Totally. These are like two sides of a coin.

This is what you've presented here. Because I'm like, okay, Mark Knopfler of dire straits is on the... It's like both of them are more representative of 80s music that was popular than what we've been talking about. I personally, like, the only song I listen to Color of Money really... I like the way that you use it, kind of, that Clapton song, but I really live obviously worlds of London. And then for Vision Quest, I only listen to Crazy for you.

It's not like I'm banging foreigner, but it's just kind of a B-side to what we're talking about, you know? Yeah. The A side is like, like, second-lookers in New Order. We're so awesome. Prince, but then the other side is like a lot of dudes listening to

Forer. It's a really interesting. It's very similar movies, too. Both movies about young athletes, you know, coming under the guidance of complicated mentors and there's a gal and they got to figure out

where that gal fits in in their complicated life of professional academic or athletic excellence. Do you guys actually think these are good soundtracks? I think the music is used brilliantly in the color money, but I would never put the soundtrack on.

I thought it was an interesting conversation. Totally worth. Well, it's fun. And if I could have a song from the 80s, it might be crazy for you. Like, if I could have a song from an 80s soundtrack, it would be up there with, I don't know. But when we talked about this the other night, I think you conflated two songs. Yes, I thought of into the groove.

Not into the groove. Live to Tell, which is the Madonna song that actually I think did not end up appearing in that film. In at close range. In at close range. but the entire music video is somehow at close range themed. Are you reading both of these films? I just want to propose a third option.

Sure. Which is like still a little cooler, but I do think falls into... Is it ACDC's maximum overdrive soundtrack? No. But it is... It absolutely rocks. Yeah.

Oh. It fucking rocks. I mean, the movie is incoherent. And it was directed... It's a Coke fever dream. By Stephen King waltzed deeply high on cocaine. Do you know what the plot of...

maximum overdrive is. Machines become sentient. Okay. Because Earth is in the trail of a comet. And in a North Carolina truck stop, Emilio Estevez is like with six survivors, but trucks are like trying to run them over.

The trucks are killer trucks. That's the whole idea. A whole opening, I think it's to hell's bells, of people getting run over by lawnmowers and stuff. Do you own this on DVD Blu-Blu-ray? I do because I acquired every Stephen King adaptation once upon a time.

Got it. So I do. It's very bad. But the soundtrack is amazing. It's probably the worst Stephen King movie. I disagree. Stephen King is not a film director.

What do you think is the worst one? Not maximum overdrive. Maximiland drive. You love it. It's like delightful to me. But the entire soundtrack is ACDC like wall to wall. They wrote the soundtrack. They wrote it for the movie.

Who Made Who Made Who? Which is an absolute heater. Where's the ACDC episode? You're welcome to come on anytime. You know, not an expert, but I love it. them. Are you Bonn or Brian? I think they're both great. I don't, I really don't. I mean, Bonn is very special. I used to be able,

if I gargled milk, to be able to do Brian, Brian Johnson. Let's do it right now. Let's try it. I don't mean milk. Can we get some milk in here for CR? No, okay. Like, I can do shirk me all night long if I gargled milk. I know this is going to show that, obviously, I'm not a main best friend of yours and more of a newer edition, but

have you always done impressions? No. It wasn't an impression. It was at karaoke if I wanted to do, that was like a thing I could do. It's kind of an impression. I mean, it's a musical.

It's like a tribute to him. You're more Brian than Bonn? No, I like Bonn more. It's, uh, if you want, boys, is my shit. It's one of the greatest songs of all time. Okay. Or we're not including this in our hall of thing. No, no, I don't know so.

Just a, worth mentioning. We're just talking about ACDC. It is an interesting example of a single band writing entirely original music. for just a movie. That happened a bunch of times and I discounted them all but it happened

particularly in the 80s it happened a lot more than it happened. You know what, to be fair, I think they just took all the songs from Maximum Overdrive and put it on the Who Made Who album which so technically isn't really in the soundtrack.

It's tough. It's just like music by ACDC and then they put out another album with all the songs. Dudes. Are you familiar with this film? Oh, I thought you were referring to me and Sean.

No, I don't know this movie. Well, you are also. My dude bros. Sean, you? I don't know dudes. Well, you, I wouldn't expect you to know because famously you hate female film makers. But... This is easily my least favorite bit going around podcasting right now.

Which is wildly inaccurate. Or there's smoke. There's fire. No, I'm just kidding. This is a Penelope Sparous film. It's kind of an underseen Penelope's Fier's film. Very weirdly, I owned the soundtrack on vinyl as a... like a child. I'd never seen the film, but I loved the soundtrack. It's 87, and it's clearly

like host or around the time that Pellope's Fier has discovered hair metal on the sunset strip leading to the most incredible decline of Western civilization too. It's a film that stars John Cryer and another guy who I can't remember and flee and they're punks, and they have to flee some sort of situation on the East Coast and drive to L.A. and, like, hijinks ensue, and it's, like, in the desert, and, yeah, it has, like, a cowboy-ish

theme. But it has, like, wasp and Megadeth and Steve Vey, and, like, again, we're talking about, like, there's a big swath of 80s music that we have not had represented. And, like, this is kind of... But it also still has the Vandals and Jane's Addiction on here, so it's kind of the

cooler version of what you guys are talking about. Yeah, it's Daniel Roebuck is the other star. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Who memorably played Jay Leno in the late shift. Very memorable. Lee Vang is also in this movie. Levinng is definitely in this movie.

He's the villain. And I'm learning now that the cinematographer of this film was Robert Richardson. Oh, wow. Three-time Academy Award winner famously shot many Oliver Stone and Quentin Tarantino films. It is a really... It's a beautiful film. Not by himself. Like, he didn't shoot JafK.

Cinematography. He murdered John... They arrested him to Harvey Oswald, so... Is that what you think has a really? No, can I be honest? I don't think about it that much. I don't either. Have you ever? Like, it's like really low on the totem pole of like conspiracy theories. But like, honestly, I know that you're like trying to make it be like people who care about that.

No, no, no, I'm not. I have plenty of like weird stupid shit that I care as you know. This is just not a thing that's like crossed my mind. Yeah, because we're about sprinting. Against your will. You have to know they think that me. You know, it's just not something that. She talked about like hydration almost like over like from California to Illinois on a flight to Boston. But see, now you're doing a thing, which is that he's not telling the other part is when he got back.

He thanked me profusely because he's now incorporated into his life electrolytes. And he feels much better and more hydrated. That's really nice to see you guys blossom together. I'm really touched by it. You almost be even silver. Yeah, that was nice too. Yeah. Okay, so now we have a couple of like these are harder rock or these are different kind of genre looks.

Yeah. So we have dudes. Color of money. Color of money. Vision quest. And you know what? I could also throw in here just because it segues nicely into one that's just a personal favorite of mine, but I don't think belongs in the Hall of Fame. Yeah.

Is River's Edge. Which has a lot of slayer. Some wipers. Yeah. Really good. And a Burring Spears song. Oh, good. Were you like the kids in Over the Edge?

River's Edge? Rivers Edge. Unhoused? Over the edge, too. I wasn't over the edge, too. Were you an unhoused runaway? No, I mean... Actually, isn't Daniel Roebuck the murderer

in Rivers Edge? Damn, Sean, it all comes full circle. I feel like he is. It's really crazy that you're able to do that with your brain. I don't know. I just know I own these guys in that film. That's a great soundtrack, though. That's a great.

There's a lot... I mean, there are, like, other ones... John Tallott. Yeah. Less than Zero has a great soundtrack. It has a crazy good soundtrack. I actually had that on a heavy consideration just off the strength of Bengals

Haysy Shade of Winners. cover. It's pretty good. There's a lot of dancing on there. Rick Rubin did the soundtrack. It's sick. Where do we stand on Ghostbusters? Listen, it was on my long list.

Because I can't name another song besides Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr. But it's the most popular song of the 80s. But like my four-year-old knows that song. Does she? And has never seen Ghostbusters and doesn't know what a Ghostbusters is. Does she say who you're going to call? She does.

And she thinks that's very, funny to do a call and response with a song. Cleaning up the town by the bus boys? I think that's... Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That's the thing is when you watch the movie, you're listening. This is not eligible.

It's not eligible. Well, it's exactly what we were talking about, where it's just the one song. But I'm telling you that there's Laura Branigan and... But what about Diane Warren... Elmer Bernstein's... ...themed to the film, though. Right.

...is very special. Yeah, Paul's underscore. It reminds me of being a young person and feeling hopeful about my lifetime full of watching movies about ghosts, which is something I have pursued professionally and feel good about. From Ghostbuster to Ghost Watcher.

That's right. Well, I'll be busting some point. I'm just still accumulating knowledge. Once I've not... Hey, I'll be ghost busting. Well, as Ray Parker Jr. famously told us in the song, Bustin makes me feel good. It's good.

It's a double entendantra. making it worse. Do you think he knew? Yeah. I think that they're like knowing the people involved in that movie I bet it was like

this is pretty funny a 21 year old might get it although I don't busting a like a nut Was that a slain? Busting a what? I don't know if that was

like a saying back then Bust a nut? Did you say that back in 84 or 5? Did you? You're the oldest one here. I heard a lot of things. I heard a lot of crazy things. It sounds like a threat.

No, but you know like we watched Eddie Murphy's Raw a lot. Okay, okay. Did you know? Yes. And would you learn? Words that you can't say anything. You know? Sure did. We've strayed so far from God's life.

This is podcasting. Do you think Beverly Hills cop deserves a shout here? I believe it was on one of my longer list, but I did not find it compelling enough to include. What do you remember? Just don't look at your computer what songs are on there?

remember some song playing when the cigarette truck chase happens. Some song. And Axel F being a song that a guy who lived around the corner from me could play on his casios. So we would all gather in his room and watch him do it. Pretty sick. This is what you did before Instagram. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't hit me. I was there. I have one that I'm making an automatic green because what do you call it? Like, just this is my podcast. Executive privilege. Which is Times Square, which you said, yes. I did that before. I'll do it again.

Okay. So wait. but like you're now putting, we've got a Hall of Fame for 10 records and you're talking dudes, Times Square, and what was the other one? Dudes is still yellow. We can litigate that.

Time Square, to me, is one of the greatest soundtracks of all time. It is, we got Susie Quadra, we got the presenters, we got Roxy Music, we got Tubeway Army, talking heads,

Joe Jackson, XTC, Ramones. Lou Reed, The Cure, Patty Smith Group. Come on, baby. And it's set in New York. It's 1980.

It's like the turn. of the time. It's about two girls that meet in like a juvie mental hospital and form a band. Tim Curry is a radio DJ. It's just, this is a very... This was also like, the soundtrack was crafted with a lot of intention.

Like, the associate producer of this film was also the associate producer. He ran the label that put out Saturday Night Fever. And so they were like, oh, make another Saturday Night Fever, but punk and new ways. So this is going green. I think this should go great. I don't want to take time square away from you because I know

a great passion point, but this is a 70s soundtrack. Dang. This is not an 80s soundtrack. Assassinated. Most of these songs, if not all of them, were recorded in the 70s. They're definitional to the 70s. It's very clear that like the Gary Newman song, the Pretender's song, the Joe Jackson song, like, these are ecstasy song.

Honestly, you've been hoisted out by your own Pettard because you made these years. Patard? Yeah, like you got... I thought we don't say that word. No, not. I'm sorry. I'll go to since you, Nile. When we pod?

They're friends. It's nothing but real serious exchange of ideas. And when we do cross the line, it's in the spirit of friendship. Yeah. Right? It's not in the spirit of humiliation.

That wasn't. Who got humiliated there besides me? You're doing great. I don't want, I love to have a pet project in any kind of activity like this. It breaks the rules. Obviously, this goes in the Hall of Fame.

So you're saying because the songs are not... From another decade. They're not fundamentally of the time. You were like, Lou Reed. Isn't that awesome? I'm like, Lou Reed. You know, he made music in the 80s. Yeah, but Roxy Music is a fucking glam rock band.

You know, those are 70s acts that persisted through the 80s. Yeah. But same way that people were listening to the Motown in 83. And frankly, probably more people. Yeah. More people were probably listening to a foreigner in Dio, to be honest. You know, like, you know, New York dolls and Patty Smith. But you're welcome to be like it's bands playing and it's my pot and I'm doing this.

But then I think me and him should each get one of your own. I don't even care. I don't even need one. I just want to point out the hypocrisy. It's not hypocrisy. But if you can do Times Square, he should be able to do Good Morning Vietnam, and I should be able to do Color of Money. Well, no one said you couldn't do color of money.

We just said those songs are not good. What was the really old act that I wanted to do? I've never been to a sports part with my dad. You heard her clapping. It's true. It's true. What was the, wasn't there, like, really, like, music from the 50s or 60s that I wanted to spend some time on on the show and you're like, we'll never do that.

No, thanks. On bandsmen? You're kind of like the Bill Simmons of the music pod world where you're like, we don't go before 1970. Because nobody cares. There's, like, a small, small. The Beatles. You always have told me to make podcasts that people will care about.

If you did the Beatles, you would have to be. We'd have to get new servers at Spotify. That's how many people will be listening. Because of the amount of hate and anger comments that would be you missed this fine detail of John Lennon's upbringing. Sometimes that's part of the magic of podcasting. Do you just not feel like enough has been said about the Beatles? Do you think I need to add, throw my hat in the ring? I'm still wildly consuming anything new that comes out about them.

I've read many books. I've seen many documentaries and I listen to the music all the time. Do you feel like since becoming friends with me you like the stones less? Why are you a more of a Stone's guy? It seems like you wouldn't make. The answer is no. Well, first of all, we've been in friends for a really long time. I know. I've always had this opinion.

And I feel like I've felt you slip away from me in Stones fandom as you've become more of a Beatles guy. We used to be brothers like Mick and Keith, you know, standing back to back. Yeah. Sharing women and heroin. You guys are kind of like Mickey and Keith.

Like, you know how like Mick like is like, oh, Keith is so cool. I'm going to sing songs. about him, that's like, you're the Mick and he's the Keith. Yeah. That's so good. But who's holding the mic? But kind of both of you. Yeah. It's true. Well, literally, yes. And now we're staring each other down to see you

who dies first. Who's really going to get to take over? Because you know, the other guys, like, I'll also be podcasted into elder abuse territory where people are like wrap it up, get off stage. Will people be paying $800 to see us play? But if Keith dies first, which he's not going to. Mick's going to have to spend

the last few years of his life talking about Keith. That's crazy. I feel like You never know where you're going to get here in the soundtrack episode of Vanceway. Let's do a proper accounting of where we stand with greens, yellows, and deletions. And I do think I probably missed some stuff. Sorry, because I was trying to podcast and keep track at the same time. That's okay. I'm sure we can figure it out. I know for green, we have Repo Man.

One. Purple Rain, two. Married to the Mob. Three. And Valley Girl. I don't think we have any other green. Those are good choices. Okay.

I think so. Yellow, we have many. Top Gun. Ferris Bueller. Pretty and Pink. Do the right thing. wild style, dudes, the color of money, vision quest. Was there another one?

That's 12. You're nixing Ghostbusters. I'm nixing Ghostbusters. Here's the thing, one that we haven't mentioned, and I don't actually know if it's eligible by my own rules because I've already forgotten my own rules, to be honest. But footloose was kind of a big soundtrack. Full loose was a really a big deal.

Butloose was a big deal. You heard that song. A little bit in the top gun zone. Yeah, a little on the top of it. It's three songs. And she's like a lot of people are like, Kenny Loggins, the sound of the 80s. I guess a lot more people probably than I think.

A lot of Kenny Loggins than the 80s. Is it more than three songs? I mean, let's hear it for the boy. Also, a huge song. Oh, shit. Holding out for a hero. Denise Williams. That's a really good.

Holding out for a hero like Bonnie Tyler. Yeah. That's also Faloose. This is also Folloolews. That's what I'm saying. There's two other Kenny Loggins songs. on here. There is a Sammy Hagar a song on here. Yeah, who, representing the

Hesher. The Hesher. Yeah. For long-haired heavy metal parking lot dude or whatever. I don't know that I've ever really busted this one out. I had it on like a very long list, but I was just like, this is like this is like at close range or top gun where it's one or two songs. But I guess it's not. I guess it's...

Also, Melanchamp's heard so good is in the movie, but I think not on the soundtrack. It's on a little shit. So that's pretty, pretty big. These are like things like... Like, I personally don't love or care about, but it's hard to make the argument that they're not... You've emotionally divested ever since Times Square got mixed. That's right.

I had to cut off my feelings. I guess would you want to spend a week researching and discussing this movie? Oh, yeah, that's right. You have to do all of these. No wonder. You forgot already. Yeah, so that's why when I was like Vision Quest, you're like, please now. I'd rather do dudes. I think it would be a more interesting episode because I do have to think about it that way. But no one has seen that film.

Does it matter? Can they see it? This is not about films. This is deep dives into soundtrack. Is dudes even available to watch? Yeah, I watched it the other day. Like, because you have a cool laser disc copy or because it's available in the street? No, it's on like Amazon Prime for $2.99 or whatever.

Okay. I'd like to see it. You should. It's really fun. Also, the funnest fact about dudes is that there is a scene where... What's the guy's name? Daniel Roebuck? Daniel Roebuck, John Cryer, and Flea, are driving.

and it's like from front of the car, and they start singing HAVA Nigila. Is that on the sound truck? No, but they get increasingly into it and start headbanging, and that is what Penelope Spiris used as the blueprint for Wayne's World. Oh.

For the Bohemian Rhapsody, and you can fully see the one-to-one. So why don't you take dudes? Because I think you really want to do a Bandsplay episode about it. So you're passing on footloose and Top Gun. No. No. I think it We should probably pick one from Footloose or Top Gun.

Okay. Can I throw another one out? You're not going to do it. But it's notable because it is another thing that I was looking for, per our conversation about Purple Rain. Yeah. U.H.F? Oh, yeah.

The Weird Al Yankely. It's a weird owl soundtrack. It's absolutely on my list. But yeah, it's all Weird Al songs of, it's all parodies. Of popular songs. It was on my list, babe. I got to say, Weird Al is kind of a great band-splain episode. Oh, no, I think so, too.

would be really funny. Yeah, I think so too. Because there's a lot to do there. There would be fun. You guys love to tell me to do an episode and then be like, I'm not an expert. Go over there. Do we do that? A little bit.

Twice as episode. He's such an interesting cat, though. I think so. I think it'd be a great story. This now, it kind of now we get into what would be really funny for Yassi to have to do. I just happened upon one line in the Wikipedia on U.HF. And it's just the first of these segments is called Gandhi 2, which reimagines a Mahatma Gandhi. as the hero of a black exploitation style sequel to the film Gandhi,

spoofing both the theme and promos for the film show. You should do this. Weird out was pretty good, I gotta say. He's pretty funny. So the songs that are parodied on the soundtrack include Money for Nothing by Dyer Straits, Wild Thing by Tone Loak. She Drives Me Crazy by Fine Young Cannibals,

Stand by R-E-M and Harry Chaypin songs. What's the Wild Thing? Parody? It's called I-L-E. This one also features his polka medley of stone songs, The Hot Rocks Polka. because he always does a Pocas song on every album. Listen, you can't take it away.

Okay, this also begs a question, what about Spinal Tap? I know, is that a musical and original songs? Because those are good songs. Those songs are all Spinal Tap songs. Personally, I think UHF is funnier and less covered territory. But you can't talk about it

because all you're going to say is like... I don't know, sometimes you need to have like a light week, you know? I would love a light of it. We did nice guys. All we did was read each other lines from the movie and cry. with laughter. It was the entire pod,

hour and a half. Once again, I must remind everybody that I've created the worst podcast in the world for myself when everyone else is like, I showed up and I laughed

about the nice guy and I'm like, oh, I'm on page 160. Don't get a twisted. I do way too much work for my show. Than you having to be incredibly serious about weird out,

Yagovic. I'd be like, born, you know, like, I'm not, I'm not opposed. Sort of yellow.

Okay. We have to pick one of footloose or top gun. Um, yeah. Arena pop. Completely off of nothing except just like intuition. I'm drawn more towards Top Gunn, but how do you guys feel? I think I'm drawing more towards Footloose.

I think there's more songs on Footloose that I just enjoy. But that's not really a good enough opinion to sway you in either direction, I don't think. I think that we have to solve the John Hughes problem pretty soon. You need to go back to solve it. I do think you got to find a way to address Kenny Loggins in some way. Right. Like we can't leave Kenny Loggins on the table. Because you've got Caddy Shack on the table here too. I mean, Kenny Loggins is the voice of the 1980s movie soundtrack.

Yeah. He probably has more hits off of the soundtracks than any other artists. You're right. So he would be represented on Top Gun. He'd be represented on footloose. Can I just throw one out that we're not going to put in? But it's just because it's like pertinent to your guys' interests and a film I've never seen. Of course. The Return of the Living Dead.

Yeah. Incredible soundtrack. You've seen this one? You know this one? I don't know the soundtrack. The cramps? 45 grave, T-SOL, the Flash Eaters. It's so cool. This is a Romero, is it?

No, it's Dan Bannon. No shit. Dan O'Bannon, the guy who created the alien character. And it's one of the only movies he directed. And it's a really fun reimagining of the zombie world, way more comic. And I think Linnae Quigley, like famous Scream Queen, plays a punk rocker in it. She has like a Mohawk and then she becomes a zombie.

Anyway, I think she also later did a punk rock horror workout video. Wow. Yeah. We should look into that. I'm very interested. All right. Chris, I'm listening. Which one about John Hughes?

Yeah. Let's talk about... It's really funny that they both have the same Smith song. Do you think... I honestly do think Breakfast Club is closer to the one song outshines everything. So... So neither one of us said Breakfast Club, though. I think it was mentioned.

Right. I brought it up. Okay. To me, it has the most memorable image of shot to song. Yeah. In the history of John Hughes movies with the fist going up. Totally. I do feel like the rest of it, it's kind of weak.

I think probably it's between Pretty and Pink and Ferris Puehler, and it sounds like you want to do Pretty and Pink. Ferris Bueller, it's like, what do you really say about? Oh, yeah. That's a good song. Is that English beat? That's yellow. Oh, yellow. What's the English?

Oh, mirror in the bathroom. Oh, good song. Fucking banger. Also on one of my other favorite soundtracks, 90s. Gross point. Yeah. Will you do the 90s next? Yeah.

Nice. This one is hard. I mean, it's hard because that's why I said it's the Bansplain Hall of Fame. It's obviously, if we were doing like a regular Hall of Fame, which honestly would be kind of boring because there's like a million Rolling Stone lists that are like that already tell you what the best ones are. these are ones are going to have the best stories. And that's what I, that's kind of what I need, you know?

I need the meat to be there of the story. Batman? I thought about Batman because of that song. We shouldn't really need two Prince albums. Totally. And also, again, the rest of the Batman soundtrack, it's not like when you get to Batman, is it forever?

Is that when the soundtrack gets really fucking popping? That's Kiss from a Rose and hold me. Should a kiss me, kill me. Yeah. Kiss from a Rose. One of the biggest songs, one of the biggest songs in a film of all time wasn't even nominated. Can I tell you something? I was watching this new movie, Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice.

And Seals Crazy is in it. And crazy hits in a scene in a nightclub. And I was like, holy fuck. Seal. Really, really, really attractive. It's a good thought. It is. You don't like Seal because.

I just never really like Seal. Seale took over MTV really hard. Kiss from a Rose was on nonstop. I'm trying to spend 11 hours watching this channel. You can't play the same video over and over again if I don't like the song. Writing a letter. Dear. Excuse me.

Adam Green. So you don't want to come with me on May 7th, the Yamava Resort and Casino to Ceil. Best Friend Night? I'm sorry. Yamava? Never been to the Yamava? Where is that? It's in the desert.

Yeah. Like if you want to catch with the gin blossoms and stuff, yeah. Think about it. Put it a yellow. Back to the future? What's on there? In 1950s movie. Power of love.

What else? No, off the top of your head. I mean, Johnny be good. Yeah. Earth Angel. Does it fall under some of the... Heaven is One Step of Away by Eric Clapton. Okay.

Not a song I put on that often. Time Bomb Town by Lindsay Buckingham, which is apparently a song. Back in Time, also by Huey Lewis in the news. Can we talk about Huey for a second? Sure. Yeah. Growing up, four in sports were in my dad's truck heavy.

Of course. Heavy. And kind of in that same zone as Clapton and Don Henley and like, this is white guys who grew up in the 60s and 70s, like kind of keeping up with new music into their late 30s. Is your dad buying new Billy Joel records at this time period? I think he stopped. We definitely had a copy of River of Dreams in the house, right? But I And Stormfront for sure

And that was the last Billy record, right? But Huey listened to his I was like seven or eight years earlier. Now it's become much parody because of Patrick Bateman, right? Patrick Bateman's really into Huey and Phil Collins and that kind of like

the sheen of Reagan era Pop soul. Are we gonna get a weird like yacht rock-esque revival of that strand of music? Is that what's next? I think it's actually happened. I'm kind of,

I'm kind of circling that at the moment. I was listening to Huey. I mean, Genesis fucks, man. There's, like, some incredible tracks. 80s Genesis, not prognosis. You mean the pop stuff? Yeah, there's some great songs. Huey is much simpler than that stuff.

I have a weird, like, PTSD around. I got a new, whatever. I got a new drug. Yeah. I want a new drug. I don't know why there's something about it, but, like, something chilled down my spine. There is something a little dushy about it,

but it is also. kind of appealing. You know, Robert Palmer also falls into this category. Like, how did Robert Palmer get as famous as he is with those music videos? Because of the videos?

With the girls. No, but he was big in the 70s. People don't realize. He was in a power station, right? Yeah, and he was doing, like, fucking reggae covers, like, white guy style in 1975. A lot of Robert Palmer songs

on 80s soundtracks. Also, he's like neck and neck with Buzz. Boggs and fucking Rick Springfields over here. Okay. Read me the greens again. Well, you didn't share the dots.

Chris wants to die. I did share it. You're at the end of Gary Glenn Ross right now. No, I'm fine. I'm just trying to show me the new leads. Here it is. Your shirt. You're both shared. My email of an update. Reap a man, Purple Rain, Myrits, and Mob. Valley Girl, Footloose, dudes. Do you? Did you say we have to remove dudes? I can't remember. No, I said you have to

move Times Square. Oh, yeah, and then we're moving pretty and pink up there. Okay. And then you... I kind of feel like we do... Have to pick one of, do the right thing, or... Or wild style. Wild style. Is your favorite rap soundtrack of all time than men in black soundtrack. Why would you say that?

I bet it's judgment night. It's obviously judgment night. But there's, I mean, I like juice. It's my favorite, yeah. The drinking South Central don't drink your OG in the hood when you're in South Carolina. That's a very complicated. Know the ledge about Rakhan is one of the great rap

performances ever. There's a lot of good rap. So you got one more slot. Which way you're going to go? UHF, you're going to go? Ferris Bueller. I mean, you... Just don't know if UHF is like. a thing that can be talked about. Do you want to put say anything on there?

Yeah. Okay. Since you guys made me remove time square. That's a real, that's a real power play by you. Oh, you know what? Put up something that like no one knows about like dudes or Times Square. Yeah. And then we made you remove it.

And now you're like, so for that I get to have say anything. So it's almost like you asked for something really extreme to get what you wanted. I wonder what would be, I'm listening. from your terrible characterization of me. Can I throw one other idea out there? What about less than zero? I said less than zero. I also said less than zero.

And that is a... Sorry, go ahead, Sean. I have an idea. Okay. It could potentially be helpful. Yeah. But also kind of breaks the rule. Okay.

What about risky business? Oh, fuck yeah. Because risky business, obviously the most memorable musical moment is old time rock and roll in the dance. in his undies. And that song is from... That's from the 70s, I'm pretty sure, right? Yeah, 79. It's not that old when the movie comes out, which is 84.

But... You've also got some other blues songs. You've got Muddy Waters and Jeff Beck, rather. There's a... Hungry Heart, isn't it? But Hungry Heart and Swamp by Talking Heads... In the air tonight. In the air tonight.

One of the biggest songs of the 80s. And then you've got Tangerine Dream doing the soundtrack. Yep. And then now that they're doing a score. The Love on a Real Train is pretty high up there in terms of 80s music moments. And you can kind of talk about the Tangerian Dream moment. Even though they're a composer, but they sit pretty comfortably alongside pop music in this movie. Just an idea.

I think it's really good idea. I do. I mean, I have a voice, you know what I mean? I'm just throwing it out there. It's Phil Collins, Journey, Prince. Bob Seeger, Talking Heads, Bruce. Springsteen. Tandring Green.

That's pretty 80s. There's not a Talking Heads actual song on the soundtrack. It's not, it's in the movie. Doesn't count. What I'm seeing here is Bob Seeger, Muddy Waters, Jeff Beck, Prince, Journey, and Phil Collins.

And it's not giving, babe. And then half of it is Tangerine Jean, which is score. Not going to be fun to talk about. I hear what you're saying. It's a score, but it's also like instrumental music from an instrumental group. So it wasn't like they wrote it to be back.

You know, it's like they chose this music to soundtrack these moments. So it already existed. Weido the Killer Pimp was one of their existing songs. I don't think so, maybe. No future parentheses, get off the babysitter. That was an existing tangerine dream track. I wrote that song, actually. That was about me.

Listen, I love and accept your contribution. It's just this one is not giving for me. So now you have less than zero. is the 10th. I think Lesson Zero will just be so interesting to talk about because of the reasons said before

in which it's showing like this is almost like proto-judgment night where it's like putting some like rap elements next to some hard rock elements. They're not in the same song

but it's kind of interesting that they're coexisting on the soundtrack like having Aerosmith and LL Cool J and Slayer and Public Enemy and Joan Jett it's kind of fucking cool. What about the last dragon? Now, you might think to yourself, what's the last dragon?

That's exactly what I thought. Produced by Barry Gordy, founder of Motown. Soul and R&B film about martial arts film. Blacksploitation kind of 10 years later movie. Not the one about that. Cult classic. Extremely fun movie. It's got Rhythm of the Night.

And it's Rhythm in the Night is the lead single. And this is part of the kickoff for DeBar. for Motown, Rhythm of the Night, famously written by Diane Warren. Multi-time loser of Oscars. A multi-time winner of Smashola hits. And I think this might be her first big soundtrack song, of course, she went on to write

those Aerosmith songs. And Seventh Heaven by Vanity is also on this soundtrack. It's a snapshot of 1980s Motown, which is a little bit of an under-explored era. There's like a Stevie Wonder song on here. I'm just giving you ideas. I like Eldabarge. You're so right to bring this in,

and it is showcasing a space in music of the 80s. I just don't know if I'm a good person to do an episode about it. Okay. Okay, that's 10. I'm not going anywhere. I'm just telling you if you're 10. You clotted Last Dragon. No, I include say anything, which still wasn't in.

Have you seen the last dragon? Okay, I have, no. Shown up? You haven't seen the last? What? I don't think so. Yeah. The Shogun of Harlem?

I just don't remember it if I saw it. Chas Palman Terry plays hood number two in this film. Love him. You do? He's kind of, is he your type, Chas? No, but I love the work has done.

It's like him in Elias, Roanfeld. Rodenfeld also not my type, to be honest. Too pretty. Too pretty. You know, some people, it's just like very beautiful.

How would you describe your type? For real, though. Like, just completely. physically speaking. Sure. Whatever you like. As I've shared with my best friend Chris Ryan, but not with you yet, I did consult with a psychic who did tell me that a relationship is coming and it is in the form of an older gentleman with a lot of wisdom who is rotund and they were sorry to say it, in quotes. We're sorry to say this. Does not have a... Oh yeah, it's a guy who channels your like angels and your, you're...

guides. And they were sorry to say. They said, we're sorry to say this. Does not have a full head of hair. It's incredible. You get so much information from just hanging out with her like once. You're just like, I know so much about the human body and the spirit world. Yeah. Anyways, so that's... You're very special. Yeah. You guys, I want to throw out one other one that is kind of cool. Maybe a little more seen than dudes in Times Square. Maybe not. stars Madonna Who's that girl? What are some other songs

From the film? Has a Skriti-Politi song Called Best Thing. It has... Yeah, it's actually not that strong. I just wanted to mention, I'm also probably hoping to double up Madonna research, right?

So true. I'm gonna have to... I'm gonna have to research anyways. Okay, well, I guess we have our 10. Should I just tell you guys some quick honorable Menchis that just because I discovered them and now they're on my letterboxed

to watch list. because they sound so cool. Did you know Yasi knows somebody who made a letterbox account for the movies mentioned in the Epstein files? It's incredible.

You guys should really check it out. And basically he put every, like, just copies and paste the email that mentions the film as a review of that film. That's very amusing. But also one of the darkest things

I've ever heard. But also kind of an appropriate use of social media, I would say. Yeah. I think it would be weirder if you did like a real physical space Epstein film festival where you're like show it. Right, but you are doing that.

You said? I just think it would be strange. Do you think it would be weird? Because I was thinking about it. I'm not interested in participating, if that's what you're asking. If it was like my life's work, if I was like, I'm taking everything,

all the equity I have and I'm moving forward and I'm gonna have the Epstein film festival and I can't do it without you. I would say that's the day you lose all your best friends. Do you wanna hear about a strange films we used to make them in this country? Yes. These are two that just have incredible soundtracks

that you can actually watch this one on YouTube I started last night. It's called Desperate Teenage Love Dolls. It's 50 minutes long. It's shot on Super 8 by a guy called David Markey, and it's about a rock man of teenage runaways, Bunny, Kitty, and Patch, who formed the hottest all-girl band of all time.

But their meteoric rise to the top does not come without a price, thanks to a sleazy manager named Johnny Tremaine, who is played by Steve McDonald from Red Cross. Hmm. I was kind of runawaysy. I was going to say, I think it's like a thinly veiled

runaways thing that came out like three years after the runaways broke up or whatever. It's like borderline. I mean, it's just so visually cool because of the time period

but it's like, it's horrible, obviously, but it has a really good soundtrack because it's all like old punk songs. And then there's a, there's a, this feels like something you guys would actually like.

Reform school girls. Do you know about this? I mean, not a movie, but I, Just in general. Yeah. That's kind of a category. This is a prison comedy film directed and written by Tom DeSimone,

who had apparently directed two other women in prison films. I didn't know that was a whole genre. Prison Girls and Concrete Jungle. And then he made this which is a spoof of women in prison films. And Wendy O. Williams is in it. It's kind of how Jonathan Demby got his start. Caged Heat movies like that. Yeah.

Know about those movies? Sounds a little bit like my girl Rachel Kushner's, Mars Room. Great book. There's another one that we haven't mentioned that you wouldn't do here because you despise jazz, but there's a very famous soundtrack.

Bird? Well, there's Bird, but I was thinking of Round Midnight, which is a really interesting movie by Bertrand Tavernier, French filmmaker, about a jazz musician. I know about it.

It stars Dexter Gordon, the jazz musician, and famously nominated for best actor for his performance in this movie. He was not an actor. No. And the score is incredible. And it's all, is it?

Oh, Herbie Hancock. I thought you were going to say the jazz singer with Neil Diamond. No. No. I actually haven't seen that. The remake of the... I never saw it. I don't think I ever actually watched Al Jolson's jazz singer.

I've seen many clips. Did we mention weird science? Weird science I did mention when we were talking John Hughes. Yeah. I do think that oingo boingo song... I'll tell you why it's in my head all the time. It's because I was really into the Weird Science TV show. Did you ever watch that show on the USA Network?

Do you know about that? Starring Lee Turgisand. I was going to add... It was post the film, obviously. Because there's a Ferris Bueller TV show as well. I was thinking it maybe is closer to late 80s. That was like on NBC. Yeah, I recall.

It was like a sitcom. And then Parker Lewis Can't Looz came and took its fucking lunch money. It's a great. Wonderful show. Oh, we didn't also mention the other Alex Cox, Straight to Hall. That's a great soundtrack. Yeah.

A little bit more themed. It's like Pogs and Joe Strummer making like kind of spaghetti western music. If we were going to do a TV show, the collected songs of Miami Vice first two seasons would probably be one of the quintessential 80s soundtracks. It's funny, this is the second time

you brought up Miami Vice in our last week of hanging out together. The third time. He's brought up in front of me. You watch it a lot. I guess I should just go shut the fuck up, up, Ben. Well, there's a moment we...

No, I didn't know played such a prominent part in your life. We were doing a pod yesterday. like I said, it was me, Chris, Andy, and Bill. And we're all around the table. And Bill and Chris, for not really a good reason, just started talking about Miami Vice in the middle of the episode and just stopped looking at me and Andy

and just kind of were like, I fucking each other and talking about Miami Vice. I think they might have fist bumped across the table at a certain point. And it was like kind of sweet but really weird. Sean, that's why it's not Sean Penancey Month. Well, it never is, honestly. But I thought that was funny.

And then one day later, here you are bringing it up again. Bill, if you're listening, which you're probably not, if you guys do Lost Boys rewatchables, I'm so ready to be called up. Is that a movie on his radar? Off the bench. I think I've mentioned it to him before. I brought it up because I love Lost Boys, though.

It's another candidate, although I don't think it is good enough to, well, has good stuff on it. Great soundtrack. Sandelmos Fire? TV show? Not in a movie. you're thinking of St. Elsewhere. Yep.

St. Elmo's Fire, Brat Pack. Yep. Dimmie more. Going to Georgetown, then getting out of college and being like, what are we going to do with our lives? Man, again, they don't make those kinds of movies anymore either. Bright Lake's Big City. Is that a good soundtrack?

You know, I just watched that movie for the first time last week. I was looking at it because of 88, right? Have you seen that movie? Bright Light's Big City? Yeah. I've actually also not read the book. Good book. I thought I had read it and then watching the movie.

I was like, is this what happens in this book? I don't remember this at all. I mean, the book. because it's in second person, so it's a much different reading experience. I love second person writing. A lot of people don't like it. It's very easy to fuck up. Use sparingly.

Yeah. Here's a cool one. I really feel like you guys will just enjoy the idea of and maybe watch it, and I'm going to watch it over the weekend, maybe. Have you heard of this British comedy from 1983 called Party Party? No. It looks really cool. Everyone was kind of comparing it to, like, Mike Lee films, like, coming of age.

but it has an incredible... It seems like it would be really cool because it has an incredible soundtrack. Party party party. Party party has altered images, banana, modern romance. What's all the absolute beginner soundtrack? This one came up a lot,

but I actually haven't seen that movie, which is what, a very early Oldman film? Gary Oldman. David Bowie, the style of counsel, Eighth Wonder, more David Bowie, Chaudet, Jerry Damers. This is pretty cool. This is on the long list.

Yeah. Working Girl, I believe, has a kind of a cool soundtrack. Isn't that mostly Carly Simon songs? Yeah. Okay. Well, Charles Carly Simon? Nothing.

You hate her? Just, yes. I hate Carly Simon. Okay, James. Who was her partner that everyone thinks she wrote? James Taylor. James Taylor. No, this isn't Gary Oldman.

I haven't seen this movie. It's Julian Temple. Yeah. But it's Eddie O'Connell, Patsy Kenzett, James Fox, and Bowie. She was a special. What a legend. The name of her character in that film is Crape Suzette. It's a really good.

Bond type. It is. You guys have seen Streets of Fire. Did you mention that already? I once saw Streets of Fire. I can't claim to remember. Oh, I love it. There's a huge song on it. What's the Dan Hartman's song? Oh, my God.

I can dream about you. Which comes from that movie. I think that's a pretty cool movie. Is that Walter Hill? It's Walter Hill. It's Walter Hill. It's kind of street rock musical. Yeah. About like warring, factions in a

you know, helltown and Diane Lane is a, plays a rock and roll star. She's so cool. But it's like two years after Fabulous Staines, too. So it's like kind of her doing that and pumping it up

on steroids. That's a pretty cool movie. Michael Perre, I think, is this. Oh, yeah. I remember this now. Yeah, it's a pretty cool movie. Very stylish. And Willem Defoe is a bad guy.

I'll see it. Have you ever seen to live in Dye in L.A.? No. That has a great soundtrack by Weig Chung. But I had a blog one called To Live and Dine in L.A. Was it about food? It was about food. Caterfoot money. Okay. Like circa 2005? Yeah, maybe six, seven. Okay. Right, right before the housing collapse. Right before the Enron. Yeah, the housing club. Right Enron. Did you cover Enron on to live and dine in L.A?

No. It didn't come up. Also, Enron was like, I think it was actually, no, Enron was earlier. It was like 2003. You know what they said about Enron? No. They named a documentary after them. The smartest guys in the room. Yeah. Which is obviously we've been spending

the last couple hours with. This is the smartest guys in this room. I think I've been spending the last couple hours with the meanest guys in the room. Wow, come on. I don't know. I think we let you... Look at the slip there.

Because I don't... We have allowed you to... I don't think you made it abundantly clear coming into this that this was going to be largely oriented about what pods I want to make later. Right. It's not about want. It's about what am I able to make interesting?

It's about deserve. Do you feel good about the 10? I do. The only one I feel sad about not having this dirty dancing because Joanna Robinson wants to do that episode, but just doing 11. I mean, if you put dirty dancing in, there's just going to be a waterfall of outrage.

That's so true. From Sean and I. You and Joanna. Have you podcasted to do it? No. It would be the first time. Wouldn't it be great? Then you should put dirty dancing on there.

Number 11. Fansplan. We do things different. On my IG, I'll be doing a long riff on I Can Dream About You by Dan Hartman from Streets of Fire. Do you think you'd ever get into front-facing camera work? I've been encouraged many times by Bill Simmons. It's kind of fun. I mean, you have to like like it. I think Chris Ryan is like wellness checking me sometimes when I'm doing it. But I genuinely like it. This has been really a fruitful conversation.

I think we've covered a lot of ground. Way more than was out. In the episode construct. And that's fine with me. I love it. Do you like a hang pod? Love a hang pod. Okay.

You don't like it? No, I do. I do. Most of what I do is so structured. Do you like to light redone? I understand. It's a real hot dog, Tim Robbins and me. But it's, I think you got to have both in your life, you know?

Yeah. I don't, I'm not on a lot of hangs. Don't call me for the hang. I mean, Ban's plan is not really a hang. I think I bring it out of you. If I do say so myself. You bring it out of me? When I am with you.

you're like, I can... You loosen up the shoulders come down a little bit. Yeah. Well, I feel like I'm in very good hands today. You know how it's like how you pets regulate your nervous system? Sure. Chris regulates your nervous system. No, I mean, I'm generally doing just fine, but...

You say that a lot to the point that it feels like the lady Doth protests too much. I don't know what it came first. If it was like the stones, like if I flew into a mountain, you think you would be doing just fine. It would be absolutely devastating. I wouldn't even make a joke about that. Did anyone still listening at this minute of the bottom? Yeah, all the CR heads were still furiously masturbating. They're on hour three of cranking it to Chris.

Trying to clock all the references he's made and they're trying to buy him a sauna so that he can do his into-camera video. The CR heads, I have to say, are not the same as your fans who constantly yell at me for being mean to you. Well, I'm, you know, take a note. Just saying. What do you that says about you? It says that I have many strong defenders.

Because they feel that you're weak. Is that way? No, because I don't... I'm doing it now. I don't fight back. Because I accept that this is a part of my persona is to be the person that is picked on in this way. It's a fact.

I would dispute the fact that he doesn't fight back. Well, in the ways in which I could fight back. Oh, okay. Right. You know. Like HR Milit. No, no, ad hominid. There are a lot of ad hominem attacks against me.

Oh, yeah, online. No, the lady doth protest too much about everything being okay. I didn't say anything like that about you. That's why there's defenders out there for me. That's true. You asked the question. You did. I feel you get your hits in just more subtly.

Maybe so. Yeah. What do you think? I only ever feel supportive from you. I do. I'm glad to hear that. It's really supportive of me. glad to hear that.

I would give anything to just have like a body swap day and I get to be CR for a day. Because you'd feel so like rewarded and forked. Yeah, I feel like I would feel so confident. No. So self, like fulfilled, so adored. I think one of the reasons why it's very easy for me to be such a vocal advocate of Chris is because I know Chris. I really know Chris. And he is everything that he presents, but there's more.

And the more is? Well, I wouldn't reveal that here. That's private. It's between you and Claude. Okay. This has been so fun. Thank you so much for coming to do this. I feel we got to a pretty good list.

I know I swayed it obviously a bit, maybe more than a bit in the direction of what would make good podcast episodes. But I still think it's pretty representative. What's the one that's on there that you were like, Lord, I never knew I would be making a pot about this? Footless, probably. Okay. Thank you for listening and watching this episode of Bands Flame.

Come back next week for a new episode. What is it going to be? It's Justice Trip from Angel Dust. Yeah, next week is we're joined once again by my best friend Chris Ryan. Or will we be breaking down the best music of Q1? I prefer just to say the first three months of the year. It's not a financial disclosure report. And also, according to Trump, we don't really need to do financial disclosures anymore.

Okay. Well, Chris would prefer that we make it the first, the best music of the first three months of 2026. It's got a ring to it. Yeah. And we'll have an interview with Justice Tripp of Angel Dust. So you don't want to miss it. If you liked what you heard today, subscribe for more episodes of bandsmite. Our guests today were Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan.

This episode was produced by Rob Sun. and edited by Chris Sutton with help from Jessen Sales. Video production by Sarah Reddy. Executive producers for Bansplanner, Regina Delbeck, and me, Yossi Salick. Our gorgeous and catchy theme song was composed and performed by Bethany Costantino and Jennifer Clayman and graciously recorded by Carlos Della Garza in Los Angeles, California. Special thanks to our producer emeritus, producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupert, and also Sean Fennacy and Sour Patchkins.

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