Bankless - TOP SIGNAL: DAO Dudes | Cooper Turley, Lucas Campbell, Callum Gladstone, James Waugh
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Welcome everyone to Top Signal, the crypto show that brings you the same guests and personalities
you know from the podcast you listen to and the videos you watch.
But instead of news, information, and analysis, Top Signal is entertainment, comedy, and live
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top signal is that there is no fact-checking. Everything you hear on this show by the hosts or the
guest is in a superposition of a shitpost, sci-ops, a factual statement, and possibly the world's
greatest alpha. We won't know because we don't check. I'm David Hoffman here with my co-host, Michael Wong,
and we are here to help serve you, crypto comfort food. We got a great show lined up for you guys
today, along with some great guests. But before we get to the guests, Michael Wong,
how you doing, man?
Dude, I'm doing so good.
I'm doing better than your face looks right now.
What's going on with your face, dude?
Yeah, I got in a fight with an electric scooter
and some pavement a week ago, and I lost that fight.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, what's going on with your face, though?
No, same shit, dude.
You know what I mean?
Normal.
Whatever you think about this is going to be this way for a minute.
You know, Asians just stay looking like this until they turn into Yoda
when they turn like 65 or whatever.
So that's my vibe.
But hey, good look.
You know, today I'm ready.
I came ready with the guy Fieri.
Because today is going to be a fire episode, my friends.
The gents that we have on board today, it should be a really fun one.
They all know each other.
They all love each other.
We're going to shoot the shit a bunch.
And again, we're not looking shit up.
I want to make that clear.
Thank you to our sponsors.
But hey, we're not looking shit up today, any day on top signal.
So, hey, why don't we introduce these fools?
Absolutely.
Today we got the guys from Fire Eyes. Fire Eyes is fire underscore fire the emojis.
And these are the guys that I go to when I want to tinker around with tokenomics and overall community management.
And some of my favorite people in this space.
And we got in the, let's see, in the top left corner, we got Kupa Tupa, who is a Dow God.
Welcome Kupah Truper, Dow God.
In the top right corner.
Also, we'll hint at this, but his Kupa's teammate, Lucas, from,
So many different things.
Bankless Dow ringleader.
Bankless Dow ringleader, bankless LLC
newsletter editor.
This guy sends out newsletters
like no one's business.
Kind of a mid-Twitter, though.
He got kind of a mid-twitter, though.
I'm kind of mid.
In the bottom left corner,
we got Callum Gladstone.
And in the bottom right corner,
we got James Wagg.
Our guys from New Zealand,
across the world, across the grove.
Thank you guys for joining us.
on Top Signal today.
Pleasure to be here.
It's been a dream come true
to get on this beautiful podcast.
It's prestigious podcast.
It's very excellent.
Instatrucius isn't up only.
No, we're wrong.
We already made that joke last week.
Yeah.
I'm like, how it's it up only.
Fuck.
Yeah, no, this is the Walmart version of Up Only.
And we're happy you're here.
Hey, I think we should dive right in, Dave.
I think we should.
Take it away.
Let's just freaking do it.
Today's first game, folks, because as you know, if you don't know, in fact,
Top Signal is a variety show.
It's a crypto comedy variety show.
We're going to be doing different things with different people every episode.
We got the fire eyes guys on.
And the first game we're going to play today is the gang plays RSA or Kupa.
So from the bankless side, everybody is obviously familiar with our dude, RSA, Ryan, Sean Adams.
And we love the way he tweets, right?
No RSA Twitter, no bankless probably.
And, you know, name your favorite meme of RSA.
So also on the other side, on the millennial side, because obviously Ryan Sean Adams is a boomer,
on the millennial side, we got Kupa who is also given similar platitudes.
You go to these guys as Twitters for positivity, for excitement, bullishness, and just good outcomes, right?
Now, as I was going through the Twitters, I was like, well,
Which one? So that's the game now, right? Which is which? All right. So together, we're going to look at some tweets. We're going to deliberate together as a team on what we think it is on whose it is. If you know, Cooper is going to know, I think, on some of his tweets, at least I hope. You can make a case for that if you want. Let's have fun. Do your thing. We're going to guess if it's RSA or Cuba. Let's begin.
how long until we see a Dow acquire another Dow?
How long until we see a Dow acquire another Dow?
And as you see on the bottom ribbon there, 15 retweets, eight quote retweets,
260 likes.
This could be either of them.
You know what I'm saying?
This could be.
Let's hear some takes.
Yeah, go ahead, James.
What do you think?
What's coming to mind?
See, generally, off the bat, I would have gone Cooper Trooper.
But actually, it was two days ago, and I saw the tweet.
so I have a sneaking suspicion it might not have been Cooper Trooper.
That's fair.
That's good evidence.
He says you saw the tweet.
Do you have any thing?
There's a little wrenching the plans now, doesn't it?
You could have held that one too.
But hey, let's think about it.
That's a Ryan shot Adam's tweet.
So we're going to give a point.
I'm going to go ahead and give a fake point.
Yeah.
If you're hearing points, you're hearing bells.
No, we're telling those babies up.
They don't mean shit, but look, I got the Montblanc ready to go.
I'm telling these up with my little legal pad.
I'm about to start playing if we got points at stake.
I'm about to answer that.
Michael,
Michael, you need to share your screen because you can,
while it's not broadcasting to the YouTube,
the people in the call can see the next tweet that's coming.
So what do I need to do?
Yeah, hit present.
Just present.
Yeah, there you go.
I'll reformat it.
There we go.
All right.
Super.
Okay.
There we go.
There's basically,
there's,
There's so much basically free money in Defi if you know where to look.
This one similar, similar ribbon there, right?
13 retweets, two quote retweets and 272 likes.
Coming in May 18th.
So we got some time.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe James wasn't a degenerate Twitter scroller and didn't see this one in recent memory.
What do we think, in boys?
See, I feel like.
See, this is a problem because I know.
know it's Cooper.
I remember
if you're doing this.
Like basically,
basically
yeah,
there's a little star.
It's the,
Ryan,
that's good.
You know that's
Coke.
That's your boy.
Wow.
Okay.
The Cooper trooper.
Ryan doesn't do the stars.
Ryan doesn't do the stars.
Yeah.
Ryan's a plan Jane.
Marr was going to do a tweet with stars.
Just to prove it's wrong.
This is how we can find Cooper's,
a non account,
too.
Just look for the stars.
Yeah.
all right, let's do this one.
We often overestimate what we can do in a year
and underestimate what we can do in 10,
what we can in 10.
Play the long game and you will always win.
If you have a, if you've seen this tweet before,
don't say it.
But we often overestimate what we can do in a year
and underestimate what we can do in 10.
Play the long game and you will always win.
Which one of these positive fellows uttered this tweet?
I think old.
all this game is showing me is that the
overest, like, the only thing I'm overestimating
is the amount of time I'm spending, like, looking at Cooper's
tweets. Like, fuck,
fuck, like, literally 100%
ratio. All right, what's the answer?
Callum, well, no, no, hold on.
Callum, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That hell of quiet over there, bro. Yeah, what's going on, dude?
So, I'm going to say,
there's a lot of, like, kind of forward-looking
positivity here, and that's
something I really associate with my boy Cooper-trooper.
So I'm locking that in.
your boy and you happen to know your boy.
There we go.
You guys are friends, aren't you?
Yeah.
Best friends.
All right.
I think we got another one.
Oh yeah.
Who's coming to crypto?
Everyone.
Ooh,
I don't know this fun.
I can see this on either.
I could see this on either timeline right now.
Mm-hmm.
Who's coming to crypto?
Everyone.
Only 170 likes though.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Didn't really,
didn't do so well.
Not something someone with 100K followers would get, you know?
You think.
Okay.
Hey, Kuba, how many followers do you have?
Enough.
Enough.
Oh, I think it's list.
It's a bit of little list.
You never have enough to.
All his friends are down to check for you.
You don't want to say I'll check for you.
Any guesses?
Who's taking a guess on this one?
I'm going to RSA, I guess.
I'm going RSA because it's very broadly bullish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
RSA, nice pick.
We're going to give James a point, Lucas, the point.
Okay, this is a good one.
The smartest people in crypto are all building crypto projects or integrations.
You do the math on what comes next.
You do the math.
Yeah, you do the math.
You do the math.
I think the formula here is if it's broadly bullish, it's Ryan.
If it's extremely positive and outgoing, it's Cooper.
So I'm going to go with Ryan here, following the formula.
No, see, I don't know.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say,
Cooper on this one.
Uh-oh.
I'm going to say-
Lucas.
Yeah.
I'm going to abstain.
I'm abstain.
I know the answer to this one again.
It's just another depressingly
uh,
Cooper scrolling answer.
Let's go.
So Lucas said,
Lucas said,
I like it.
Lucas said Ryan.
He's wrong.
And he's wrong.
And he's wrong.
It's a tweet, bro.
Oh, Loki.
Lucky.
Nice, call.
Nice pig.
This, this one knows a curveball, though.
This definitely could have been
Ryan. All right, let's lock this one up. Last one. This is the numbers too. Look at this.
February, February of 2020. We had to crawl for this one.
We had to, yeah, this was D.
One billion dollars locked up in Defi is a pretty cool milestone to see fire emoji.
See, at this point, you know, people like Ryan and Cooper who tweet every single day,
they have nothing. I bet you Cooper doesn't even know who this is.
I don't know if it's Ryan or Cooper. We know. It does have a,
does have a fire emoji so that like tends towards cooper but i think is a pretty
right ryan likes his fire emojis yeah and you know pretty cool uh pretty cool to see or pretty
cool that's like a boomer state you know i don't think cooper's saying pretty cool so i'm a lock in rs
i'm not actually sure though yeah i'm not i'm not sure if cooper had the reach to get 1100 likes
in february 2020 i'm just i'm going out to die i'm going to i agree i agree yeah yeah rsa
I can get it a thousand likes from a generalized tweet like that.
Yeah, that's Pomp.
Yeah, hey, I agree, Pomp.
It's a pretty cool model.
The Boomer statement.
The boomer statement, yeah.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Hey, well, we did it.
Nice job.
Yeah, looks like James.
You're going to take the round on that one, dude.
Nice job.
Nice.
Nice.
I couldn't even play the game.
It doesn't mean anything, but yeah, sorry, Cooper.
That's an alpha coat.
Yeah, super.
Good job.
Off to a good start.
Okay.
We're moving on.
That was a good time.
Thanks, Cooper, for letting us use your tweets.
That was fun for us.
With no consent, I appreciate it, guys.
Zero consent, zero fact-checking.
Now the game plays code words.
Dave, why don't you help us learn a little bit about what's going on with this game?
All right.
This is where we divide you.
guys up into two teams. We got Cooper and Lucas paired up. We got the American boys. And then we got
the Calum and James, the Aussie New Zealand boys paired up. And so this is how this is going to work.
We have a list of words ready to go. And one of you is going to be past the word. People watching
the YouTube will notice that you can now see the Zoom chat being streamed on the screen.
And I'm going to, one of these two team members are going to pick amongst themselves who is going
to be the person guessing the word. And the other teammate will be the one.
trying to get the person to guess the word,
but you cannot actually use the word
that you are trying to get them to guess.
Make sense?
Get it. Yep.
All right.
So American boys, Cooper and Lucas,
who wants to deliver the word
and who wants to guess the word?
You got a preference?
I don't even understand the rules here,
but go for it, too.
It's just like fucking that.
It's like taboo.
Yeah.
So Cooper, I'm going to,
so I guess I'm going to give Cooper the word.
he's going to have a word,
he's going to have to get you
to say the word without actually telling you
what the word is, right?
Okay, so you're going to be guessing the word.
All right, Cooper is delivering.
James, Callum, who's going to be delivering the word?
Who's going to be guessing the word?
What do you think, Calam?
I'm thinking I deliver you guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
All right, we'll do that.
We're fucked.
All right, well, since the hosts are in America,
we are going to allow the Americans to go first.
And so, Cooper, I'm going to DM you
in Zoom here, the word.
And here it comes right now.
Is there a timer on this?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, and sorry, very important.
How long?
So 30 seconds to guess as many words as possible.
So as soon as you get, as soon as a Lucas guesses the word, I'm going to send you
another word.
You ready?
Yeah.
Do I need to get a timer set up here?
Yeah, Mike, you need to get a timer set up.
You ready?
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold the horses.
I got timer set up here.
We get this to our advantage.
Rip it.
Let's see. I got a timer. Oh, no, Dave.
Use your phone. Use your phone.
I'm going to do this. It's okay. Okay.
Tim, play YouTube video with 30 second timer.
Come on, bro. Come on, bro.
Okay, you ready?
High tech show, bro.
All right, let's go. Let's go.
Way to check your crypto portfolio.
People on mobile for noobs.
Zerion, Zopper.
No, it's a blockfolio
Bang
Nice
Is this to me again?
Yep
Where'd you describe a crypto trader
Who does nothing but trade all the time?
DGEN
Dang
Ways to stack two D-Fi protocols together
Composability
Yeah but a broader term for it
Funny term, meme term
All right
Money like a fuck
You guys got two
Two points
We might need to extend this time
Money little.
30 seconds.
That was bullshit.
But whatever.
Yeah.
Give them money.
Let you guys.
30 seconds might need to be increased.
I guess we're going to do this a couple times.
All right.
Okay.
So you guys got three points.
Three points to the American boys.
All right.
Callum James.
You guys ready?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm ready.
Remind me.
Who am I sending the word to?
James.
Okay.
All right.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Mike,
whenever you are ready to start the clock, I will send the word.
Okay.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Do we want to increase the shit to a minute?
Yes.
We will do that in round two.
30 seconds first.
Okay, and we're going to start now.
You don't want this.
A way that uniswarp and balance and manage...
The way that uniswold and balance
and manage their liquidity.
What's it called?
The name for it.
It's like an acronym.
Liquidity provider?
No, acronym, acronym.
Small acronym.
LP?
No, not.
AMM.
The gun, nothing.
Yeah, AMM.
Done.
Nice.
Someone who has the word of decentralized
financialized finance is their first name and a male relative that's directly above them as his second name.
It's someone's name and it's two words and the first word is essentialized.
Oh, fuck.
It's so hard.
How do I do that one?
It's a person with the centralized finance is their first name and, oh, that cheated.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
I failed that one.
What was it?
Defy dad.
Defy dad.
Oh.
That's so hard.
That's a shit one.
That's tough.
Okay.
said Zachris, go out.
Listen, that got to be the warm up, bro.
That shit was too fast.
I'm ready to go.
I got three, bro.
We just crushed that shit.
Oh, it fucked it off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's up this to a minute and 30 seconds.
Let's do this again.
I'm thinking up, yeah, almost two minutes here maybe, but we'll go one.
We have enough words for two minutes.
Oh, let's go two minutes, dude.
Give him some time to.
These boys aren't all that, aren't all that fast.
So, uh, they're not that right.
No, no, no.
Fucking deep-eye dead.
Okay.
Everyone else is getting like turn.
Hey, wait.
It gets fucking harder, do it.
It gets harder.
It gets harder.
Okay.
Lucas, I am sending you the word now, and Cooper is going to guess.
Oh, shit.
Okay, so it's just round two?
Are we doing round two now?
This is round two.
For first round, we got three to one, Cooper, USA to New Zealand.
All right?
Yep.
You count the third.
No.
Not only were we beating you in COVID debts.
We're also beating you at COVID.
All right.
All right.
Start the time of day.
I'm going now.
One of the founders of Gemini.
Tyler Winkle boss.
Cameron Winkle boss.
The other one.
As designed.
A place where you check prices right now.
Quang Echo.
Owner of the Mavericks.
This is so easy.
Mark Cuban.
Let's go.
Let it up.
Not later one, but.
You can't.
Say layer.
Yeah.
What?
Hell.
Can't say layer.
All right.
Self-repaying loans.
Protocol for it.
Uh, Akra Max.
No.
Thank you, our sponsor, in fact.
Thank you very much, Cooper.
Uh, the podcast that this should have been.
Bankless?
No.
Down sometimes?
Oh, up only.
I guess I'm not allowed to say the words for it, but it is like the issue that miners are able to like reorder transactions.
Oh, God.
What like, what, come on.
Oh my God.
This one's fuck.
This one's fun.
Bitcoiners use this to kind of like determine how many Bitcoins have not been.
moved. I don't know if that's the best description.
UTX-O. Oh my God. Wow. Oh, shit. Oh, no, hold on. There it is. All right.
Argent wallet is a...
A lot. Nope. Smart wallet.
Smart wallet. Close, yeah. Smart what? Smart something wallet. Smart contract wallet. Nice. Here we go.
Nice. It's got to be it. It's got to be it.
That was fire.
That was fire.
How many was that, Mike?
Were you keeping track?
I can't even count that high.
That was hot.
I think that was nine minus two.
Total.
Those first three questions.
Those questions at the start.
So they have seven.
I'm down for seven.
All right, Calam, words are going to you now.
You guys have nothing.
There's literally no way.
Mike, you ready?
Everyone ready?
Yeah.
It's going.
Lots of noises here.
OG NFTs.
Uh, Kripple Kitties.
First NFTs.
Cryptop punks.
Yeah.
Like fire eyes, but not as cool.
Can't say ice.
Bitcoin, pro.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we cancel.
Uh, when the chain splits.
A fork.
A hard fork.
More contentious, yeah.
Nice, nice.
Yeah.
Uh, the start of Lucas's Twitter name.
Start an address
Zero X.
Thank you to our sponsor, Zero X.
Continue.
Place where all people discuss governance
that is in a forum.
Discord.
Yep.
Non-fungible token.
NFT.
Fuck.
The one that starts with the E.
I'm not sure.
Is that E?
What?
What the fuck?
You can't say it starts.
We play this game different in America, bro.
Yeah, you can't do that.
This one's hard.
Music platform, not audience.
Yula beats.
Yep.
Make a vault, but the old way of saying it.
Oh, oh, CPP?
What the fuck was it?
Rumbling.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Humblein.
The spelling comes to bait slumpy.
Think about one of this.
What are you taking out, right?
You're taking out a loan.
another word for a loan.
Collateral,
something.
Collateral.
No.
Three letter.
Aterland.
Oh.
I don't know what it is.
Do another one.
Do another one.
You work.
That one.
I take the L.
Ten seconds.
That,
that NFT game that's pumping
recently.
Oh, what the fuck?
Action Infinity.
Nice.
The way that you
drop token.
time.
Air drop.
Yeah.
What was,
what's the fucking maker one?
Coilateral.
CDP.
CDP.
Oh, man.
What a sucker.
Okay.
I think we're pretty close, right?
Yeah,
we got five or five or a lot.
I mean,
we definitely didn't get as many disqualified.
So I think that you got seven points.
Seven minus two is what I got.
So for a total five.
And this is total.
Oh, total.
Oh, total.
So seven versus five?
Okay, it's pretty close.
No, we had three from the first round.
Yeah, I have five.
No, no, can we, can I know if to strike that last one from the first one?
Because that was, yeah, yeah.
That was credited.
That was credited.
No, no, no.
No, the judges were in the pocket.
I had David fumbling to give me the last one.
He was like, oh, sorry.
I took, I included your three in the, in the previous nine figure that I had mentioned for Team USA.
So it's looking like 7 to 5 right now, Dave.
7 to 5, USA.
I don't know how.
USA, all right.
But New Zealand has 5.
Are we going another round like this or are we going to the final round?
I think we're going to the final round.
We're not having 20 more words left.
Okay, good.
Good job, gents.
We're going to the final round of code words.
And this is, uh, okay, choose, choose who knows the most dows in your, in your,
in your little duo that you got.
I need you to pick the person that knows the most doubt.
Yeah, yeah. Team USA definitely wants to pick Cooper for this one.
Super humble about it.
Yeah.
Callum, James, you guys have a delegate.
The Dow God, come on.
I probably delegate James on that.
Dalgate James.
I think we'd be like pretty even though.
Yeah.
Okay.
Dave, why don't you tell us how we're going to make this happen?
All right.
So this is going to be a fun little game.
It is literally name as many Dow's as you can in 30 seconds.
and the creative way that we're going to have to get this done
because we have two teams here.
The representative from the team that is going second
is going to have to go on mute,
not muting their microphone,
muting their headphones so they can't hear
while the first team, either Cooper,
yeah, Cooper's going to go first,
while Cooper rattles off as many dows as possible.
James, are you the rep from New Zealand?
Is that right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so take your headphones out.
Yeah, take your headphones out,
yeah, while Cooper rattles off as many dows as possible.
in 30 seconds.
And I'll beckon you back.
You'll see the timer on the screen.
Okay.
I'm not looking at the article.
You're so cool.
Yeah.
No, no.
Got a code of honesty here, but also we don't do any fact checking on this show.
Yeah, so.
All right.
Good point.
All right.
In fact, now let's let, James, you want to go first or second?
We got Cooper, the Dow God.
Do you want to go first or second?
James' headphones are out, so.
Oh, okay.
Go ahead, Cooper.
We're going to set it off in five.
Five, four, three, two, one.
FWBC Club, bankless, forefront, global coin research, crumbie.
Blank, right now, Maker, uniswap, compound, Ave, balancer, rarable.
Let's go with Metacartel Ventures, Bilau, Famingo, Pleaser, Dow, Metaverse, Dow.
Let's go with Mibet's Dow.
Go with a board apiaught club.
Let's go with Raid Guild,
Medi-Cartel.
Oh, you said, Marri-Cartel.
Yeah, I didn't mark that one.
Okay, wow.
I counted 20.
Medi-Cartel ventures and medicartel are two different dows.
I counted 21.
Yeah, but I didn't hear ventures.
Yeah, it's true.
All right, you got 20.
Hey, come back, James.
Come back.
Yeah, I'm back.
The number to be is 20.
20?
20.
20 seconds.
Okay, okay.
It's faster than anything.
than I can work this soundboard.
Anything that, like, is a DAO
anything that's a DAO.
I'm not going to fact check.
If it comes out your mouth, I'm about to list
every shit coin in the universe.
Okay, I'm ready.
Okay, go.
We're going?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
Medi-Catel ventures.
Raid Guild.
FWB, Arvee, Balancer,
chain link.
I'm not sure if it's a doubt.
Yeah, well, you do swap.
Fire-Eyes, Dow.
uh
Jesus
Uniswa
what the fuck's
another shit coin
um
oh it's
I suck
competitor coop
yeah yeah
yeah
I'm not going to
oh yeah
I'm sorry
dude
dude I'm not gonna win this game
Kevin probably would have been better
the Americans
win
Cooper is a fucking nerd
Joe you have 30 seconds
to just chill there
and think about a hell of downs
are you fucking chain a name
it's okay
I'm a game
man's a chain link dude
chain link dude
Chainlink.
Chameling, which is a doubt.
I'm about to go up 50% now.
Oh, my God.
Hey, that's the top signal effect, baby.
I mean, hopefully we're hurtling shit into the stratosphere, not into the, not into hell.
All right, guys.
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Welcome, everybody. Excuse me. Just, you know, things I talk about in my free time.
Welcome back to the show. If you're back, if you're in the restroom, flush it up, wipe it up. We're back.
And, hey, I want to talk about this new game we're playing called Patriot Games.
We got a global show, everybody. That's what I promise you. I promise hard hitting, hard hitters. And we brought the folks from New Zealand to chat. And I'm interested, you know, we got James and Callum here.
either of you can comment first
like what's what's the vibe of defy like
in crypto what's the vibe down in new zealand right now
you want to take that call um yeah yeah so
i mean there's me and there's james
okay um and then there are like a few kind of undercover people
who maybe sit on their computer and like play with defy uh and then that's
basically we ever met a 30 person meet up in christ church every month
talk about defy it's awesome
but it's very low key
okay so there's no
like bank unbanked the indigenous
or anything like
how the fuck do you think
New Zealand works you think it's just a island
I know we got no
infrastructure it's only like
we got like little straw huts
that's it you guys
are in the back scenes and stuff so yeah
I don't know what you guys are capable of
now the right
well hey
by here nothing
What, you know, I'm just curious.
Do you guys, I think we know, you guys probably know a lot more about the United States than we do about New Zealand.
Like, let's start here.
Like, what, what are the makeup of your guys is like, you have states, provinces, like, what's the situation there?
It's all governed like collectively as New Zealand.
And it's sort of, I mean, I guess like local governments is broke.
Yeah, just lots of huts, basically.
And then local government is broken into like smaller subsets, but it's all governed in the same way.
And you guys live in which.
Which subset would you say?
Christchurch, which is in the South Island.
And that's in what area?
It's going to be helpful in the moment.
So New Zealand's like this as a place.
And there's like all built up here,
Wellington in the middle,
and then Christchurch down here.
So I'm like this.
Cooper.
Is you guys paying attention to that?
Yeah,
because the game is called Patriot Games, folks.
And the first thing we're going to do is have,
is have Callum and James here.
play this game where they're going to try and guess
and as many as we're going to do a minute here.
Oh, fuck.
But Kellam might be good at this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's find out.
Hey, let's find out.
All right.
At the 30 second mark, let's begin, okay?
And you're going to go for about a minute.
We're going to do the same thing for New Zealand.
Me.
It's like five in the whole country.
It was like, what the hell?
Yeah, but you got no idea.
Okay, Cooper.
All right, okay, Cooper.
All right, all right.
Where's Arkansas?
Go.
Where's Arkansas?
We got one minute.
In the middle, in the middle at the bottom somewhere.
I'm saying.
You tell me when to stop.
You like that one?
Not that there.
Maybe right a bit.
Yeah, that one.
This one right here.
Arkansas.
Okay.
Apparently that was a little noise.
Okay.
Down, down.
Down one.
Yep.
He and my man just clicked on it himself.
What the fucking is?
I'll help you out in a second.
Help you assist.
That, down.
Uh, oh, oh, I know this one.
Right.
Hey, three tip, buddy.
Let's not hover over the crack.
Here?
That one?
No, no.
No, no.
Oh, it isn't it?
Nice.
Oh, Maine.
All right.
Go to two minutes and 30 seconds.
Go.
Above me.
What the fuck is, man?
Right.
Above and to the right of New York.
Yeah.
I'll keep going up.
Uh, now up.
Yeah, one more up.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Oh.
Okay, that's a big one in the middle, down, down, yeah.
That's an obvious one, yep, yep.
South Carolina.
Oh, that's like a brutal racist one.
It's at the bottom, at the bottom.
No, right.
Next to Arkansas.
I love the people of South Carolina.
Yeah, yeah, that one.
That's Tennessee.
Down, maybe.
That's Alabama.
No, maybe the one below that.
That's Louisiana.
That's the ocean.
Oh, this one?
No, this is losing that one.
That's definitely in the south area.
Yeah.
You got 15 seconds.
Keep clicking those ones.
That one.
Clicking those ones.
Somewhere around there it.
Oh, there it is.
That one that popped up red.
That one.
Last one.
South Dakota.
Yeah, that one, right?
Literally zero percent to get this.
Up or less.
No American community.
Cut it.
Cut it.
3.
We're done.
Cooper's hell competitive.
Cooper is so competitive.
Cooper,
we'll love it.
He's like,
where South Carolina
immediately goes over South Carolina?
It was an accident.
We'll see how it goes in the opposite.
Yeah, I'm going to say
if I have a mouse,
I think I'd be a lot better at that.
What did we get?
So wait, what did they get?
They got Texas.
We got Maine.
They got New York.
We are for it.
And Arkansas.
They got Arkansas?
Yeah.
Okay, I got Texas.
So you guys got four of them.
That's not bad.
Nice.
Yeah.
You might be able to use the annotation feature in Zoom.
I just annotated something.
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
All right.
Well, let's go to the next one, boys.
Oh, here we go.
Let's see how they do.
Yeah, yeah.
I've never seen it broken down like that before.
If you're thinking about,
If you're watching this right now and you're thinking about, damn, how do I sponsor the show?
This is the kind of shit we're doing right here, okay?
I just want to make sure you know what you're getting yourself into.
We're looking for Wicado, and we're going to end us at two minutes.
In a minute, two minutes.
Bicado.
Bottom left, all the way down.
Bottom left.
South Island.
That's South Island.
All right.
Remember that.
Okay.
It's in the North.
It's in the North Island.
How about that as a tip?
Fuck you.
Syops over here, bro.
Syops.
Top middle.
Not right, right.
Up.
Up one.
No, yeah, that one.
Nope.
Yep.
This one right here?
Yeah, yeah.
Dude, you're wasting time.
Click on it.
Click on that.
I got it.
Let's go.
All right.
Hawks Bay.
Hawks Bay.
Got to be one with the Bay.
That one, that one.
The top one.
Yeah, actually that one, yeah.
Ockland.
All right.
Auckland is North.
No, it's South.
No, it's South Island, right?
Christ Church is South.
Auckland's North.
It's like an island.
Is it the thing to the...
Or no, bottom island in the top half.
Bottom of the top half.
Yeah.
Bottom top half here?
Right. Yeah.
Yeah.
Wellington.
Literally well.
No, middle one.
The one right next to Wellington.
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
A big ass word.
I didn't see.
I have never even heard of these.
Dave.
Yeah, that.
We got 32nd.
Let's go.
Pick it.
Oh, we fucked up.
Damn.
I didn't get that one.
Okay.
Oh, God, click it.
Southland.
Oh, we got that one.
And then we saw that one, too.
It's right now.
Oh, this is my here.
Let's go.
Cheating, cheating.
Cheater.
Bottom island.
Bottom right side.
So, yeah, that.
Click it.
That's where we are.
That, click that.
Otago.
Take up.
Start clicking, Mike.
Let's go.
And that's it.
Time.
Time.
Time.
That one again.
No, I knew that one.
That last one.
over time, shouldn't count.
You guys have...
We got 50% of New Zealand.
It was way more than what you guys got.
This man's just clicking.
Just clicking all of them.
Hey, baby.
Well, if you click it wrong three times,
it doesn't give it to you.
And I wasn't giving that to us
if we clicked it too many times.
So I think that's more than four.
I think that's one four.
No, that's exactly four.
That's exactly four.
and one of them.
Tie goes to the,
to the America, so.
Yeah, good job.
Good job, America.
Good job.
Hell of a, hell of a win.
All right.
And yeah, without giving you any time to debate that victory,
we're going to play our last game.
It's, you guys, if you saw Top Signal last week,
this is the game that I think everybody's going to love watching and playing.
We're going to go around the horn.
each of you is going to get some time to give your hottest take on a topic that we show.
I think last week we said something like, you know, who is the most important person in Ethereum?
Or, you know what I mean?
Like and you or when is the NFT bear market?
How long does that last?
And you can say, dude, there is no NFT bear market.
Or you can say, dude, it's never ending.
You can respond to other people's comments.
I'm going to be noting points here on the side.
I will be giving points to people who I think make good comments.
And at the end of the round, me and David are going to decide who got the points.
Also, we're checking the chat here from the Dow.
Bankless Dow also gets to give points.
Bankless Dow members, if you would like to give points, please add a plus one during the time.
I see you, Perci.
Yep, yep.
For people who you think making good comments.
Ms. Genetics, I see you in there as well.
DJ.
Let us know what's going on.
Okay.
Yeah.
And whoever gets the most points at the end is going to have.
Oh, I know the first one.
mixed with some items from the rest of the game,
you're going to get a free minute or 30 seconds,
depending on how we're feeling,
to just give your hottest take on whatever you want.
Monologue.
You can show whatever you want.
Monologue.
Doesn't need to be crypto-related if you want.
You just get the floor.
All right.
What's the order, Dave?
What order do you see here?
I mean, ask me who what do you have it set up in?
Oh, okay.
Let's go.
Yeah, so starting, going clockwise,
starting at top left. We got Cooper, Lucas,
and then we got James, and then we got Kalem.
And you?
Oh, am I part of this?
You forgot last week you were. Yeah, you can and be.
If you don't want to be, you don't have to be.
Okay, I guess I'm part of this.
You're in it.
You're in it.
Your name is right here.
I get to order myself points. Nice.
Okay, yeah.
Fake news.
We'll see.
All right, boys.
Which Dow has the best community?
Which Dow has the best community?
We're going to go with Cooper first.
Bankless Dow.
Are you kidding me?
Fuck.
Well,
you keep on going.
You have to,
you have to,
you got 30 seconds to pitch it.
This isn't a quiz.
You got to pitch it.
Yeah.
I mean,
first data to do coordinate
distribution and social token community,
ended up paying the court team
out of proposal first,
which was great.
No pre-allocation,
no pre-mine.
First major media,
Dow, I would argue,
and first to be doing
critical politician work
as a Dow coming soon,
TM.
All right.
that is.
Wow.
We don't have the OBS to support the fact that to show you.
I just gave him like four or five points right there.
Like you guys know why.
He knew what to say.
All right.
Let's see.
Lucas,
what do you guys say,
brother?
I was planning on saying bankless Dow too.
But I'll just,
I'll cop out.
And this number two is fireized out.
We work with,
you know,
phenomenal projects,
industry leading projects,
including get coin balancer Avey.
You know,
we're active governance.
participants across the ecosystem and you know i think we're really engaged
you're getting your time you don't think you need the extra 10 seconds to shoot me
i right that was a great dow though
that was a great pitch
i like it too uh i think i'll do like i guess mida cartel um and yeah i mean maybe not
not Medi-Katel ventures, but maybe both.
I think Medi-Katel started the Dow revolution.
You know, I mean, Molok kicked it off,
and then Meta-Katel made it into God mode
and sort of coordinated a bunch of people.
You know, it's doing pretty chill stuff now,
but I think it certainly laid the foundations
for everything that certainly we do,
but I think also, like, the wider device, basically.
And there's a bunch of cool people inside of it,
and we give away money.
If you want a grant, come to Medi-Catel.
Nice.
Free money's dope.
Callum, what do you think?
Which Dow has the best community, dude?
I'm saying index cook, index co-op, built from the ground up,
built an incredible, a bunch of incredible products that a bunch of people use
have been really been first on experimenting with actually paying people to do work for the Dow.
And their forum and their discord and just all of their chats and calls are great.
And it's not like, you know, completely grassroots ground up, no top-down governance.
Index Coop.
David, it's writing it out for us.
All right.
I'm just going to press the dinger button over and over again.
My answer is MakerDAO.
What other DAO can you even think of other than DAO's?
MakerDAO started off the whole revolution of having on-chain applications governed by a community of stakeholders.
While it did have the foundation, it also started off with the MKR governance token.
So it had MKR governance from day one.
So that's really, really important.
So they committed to decentralization from get-go.
Before DAWs were even a DAO, MakerDAO,
MakerDAO and it has an insane amount of on-chain cash flows, on-chain cash flows. And so, MakerDow.
Hey, so does Bankless Dow. I gave me three things in the chat. I just want to say, yeah,
Bankless Dow got money coming in. If you're in the Dow, you know what's good. Yeah, thank you for the
your dings, Cooper. Nice. All right. Let's, let's tally that up. I got, I got Cooper doing that
one, of course. Cooper got that one. What? No way. Yeah, Cooper had to get that one.
You got to get one point each to the Americans, too.
Yeah, true, true, true.
USA, you're with it.
All right.
Yeah, nice job too, David.
I like that comment.
Cooper gets another point, so Cooper's got two.
Cooper definitely edged that one out on us.
I'm feeling like this.
I've been raped a little bit.
Yeah.
No, perfectly fair.
Great game.
Great host.
Fantastic instruction.
Thank you.
Yeah, all right.
I think you guys saw the next one.
We have a lot of these to go through.
So which NFT has the best community?
Reverse order.
Yeah, let's go.
Let's start with, yeah, David, you go last again.
But let's go Callum.
All right.
I'm going to say bored apes right now, I think.
You know, started off as like a generative NFT meme.
But then, you know, people rallied around it.
They have merch.
They have, you know, shoes.
They have like additional NFTs that are built off of those.
NFTs. I think that's one that's like, you know, started off as a generative meme,
but it's actually built into a real community.
And a really sophisticated art style. And I think when they came out with the eight board
and that bathroom situation when everybody was crowding around, I think that was really cool
too at the outset. And also that it was cheap, right, that they were cheap when they came out.
0.08 was cheap back then for people and a lot of people got to be able to be part of it. Great. James,
what do you think? I'm going to do crypto ketties, I think. I think that was like,
my first. I mean, you know, it was obviously after
crypto punts, but I think it was very, very early
on the piece and got a bunch of people excited about it.
I certainly was like a degenerate cat breeder
and breed like hundreds
and hundreds of cryptocities.
And I think it's sort of like, you know, built the foundation
with people being hyped up. I mean, maybe built
flow as well, which is least cool, but also
built by those people being hyped up
about any of this. We don't like
flow here.
Yeah, yeah.
You got zero points. Get fuck.
I miss a buzzer.
definitely got a buzzer that I've, or ding that I forgot to give him. I got a lot of points for,
yeah, Kyle has a lot of points on my little legal pad. Why don't we go to Lucas next?
What do you think? Which NFT has the best community?
I'm going to go to like the new rising star and say cool cats. I think he took like a really
like authentic approach to like the artist I believe is like super involved and just taking a very
authentic legitimate approach to like creating an NFD community and it's being reciprocated by
the market right now. So he was pumping their bags. It's unbelievable.
And William gave us all free.
Things for pumping back.
William Pister.
Yeah, I got him.
So cool cats.
Super sick.
You got hell of points for that, Lugas.
Let's go to Cooper on this one.
All right.
I'm going to say Axi Infinity.
You're getting third world people paid to play video games online.
You have multi-levels of NFTs.
You got land.
You got monsters.
You can earn in-game and sell them on uniswap.
Highest protocol fees in any crypto project right now.
I think it's setting the stage.
from the next chapter of crypto and gaming in general,
which is fantastic.
I would say that look in their Discord,
it's a fantastic community.
It's more about the people playing than it is the Axis themselves.
And so all around,
I'm going to have to go with Axi Infinity.
Wow.
Wow.
And they're Filipino.
I'm Filipino as well.
Thank you for shouting them out.
Love to hear it.
That was a strong one.
David.
I think I want to abstain from this one
as I got all of my selections rugged from me.
No one said box.
You don't have anything to say about punks, bro?
Cryptopunks? I don't have one yet, so I'm still waiting for those prices to come down.
Yeah, good luck.
Yeah. I was thinking Mid a factory. Middifactory would have been a good one.
I was also making a pleaser down. They don't have an NFT. We're on the NFT one guys.
Yeah, Meta factory, that's how they launched because they sold an NFT and a jacket.
And that's how the initial targets were distributed.
The guy.
The more you know. The more you know.
All right.
Let's go ahead and uh...
I have to...
He's got to go to Cooper.
Let's go.
Unfortunately, it's Cooper.
Unfortunately, it's Cooper.
And I think one more, no, one more, no, one more,
the Americans as well.
I think Americans get another point for being
American.
Oh, that's so nice of you.
That's true.
I'm not going to say none of that.
Very good.
Very generous of you, sir.
Thanks, thank you for paying your taxes to America.
All right.
Confirm, stable coin firm.
Circle goes public after, or via
stack merger, you know,
USC, the stable coin we all
have grown to love.
We don't have to go around the horn.
Whoever has an opinion here first can go
and just let me know which one.
Okay.
Callum.
Get it.
I mean, I think it's like good
for institutional adoption of the space.
I think it's bad for the fact that
USC will probably be more open to regulation
or regulatory capture.
So yeah, hopefully we can
move to more decentralized stable coins.
asap. That's my take.
The conversation around decentralized
stable coins is really picked up lately.
As we know,
you can't really peg
die to ether. Also, you lose the peg.
And if you want to fix the peg, you've got to peg
it to USC. So it's just a rapper for
USC. So that makes me just
really bullish on Rye in general.
That's my take. Plus one.
And I think like, I reckon like non-pig
gas yet, so I reckon like and that's
conversation happening in Rye, but like pigging to like
a basket of stocks and house prices
and gold and, you know, that being the peak, where the pig itself actually moves, like,
using one dollar unit is only because we're all retarded and we need to like, we like an easy
number.
Totally.
Totally.
It was actually, you have any, um, you have any opinion on pegging?
I think, no, no, uh, opinion on pegging.
No.
I was going to say, I think that this is a pretty on brand right now.
I think like Coinbase kind of like, uh, blaze that trail and all these crypto companies that are
very institutional focus are cashing in.
I think Blockby is about to, has been like setting up for their IPO.
Circles another one, I think Gemini has kind of had some early discussion.
So I think like a lot of crypto companies that are more institutional, more like billion,
you know, in the billions right now, we're going to definitely go public one way or another.
All right, guys.
Anybody else?
James, you want to, you want to chime in?
Yeah.
I mean, I think overall interesting.
Stable, centralized stable coins do not excite me at all.
big IPOs, congrats, I guess, hopefully that the, hopefully similar to Coinbase, the employees
actually got shares and that I just get, like, wrecked.
On a slightly more generalist view here, I think that USDC is the way that we get retail into
D5, and I think that things like compound and Coinbase with their fixed lending products
are only going to be possible if we have the adoption of USC.
So overall, I think this is a good move for the space generally, and I hope over time we can
make it a little bit more decentralized in practice.
Yeah, here's a company who's going public and their entire freaking existence is based on Ethereum.
So I think other people in this space should be able to take a look at that and open their eyes.
Excellent.
You know what, Dave, I really liked your take, but I'm going to give that to Lucas on this one.
You're also going to get a point to.
And then I think just to just a good person, probably get one too.
Yeah, one is that point.
No one to hear it.
Retail adoption, all right?
No one cares.
0.67.
just scores
sorry james
oh man
I'm coming
I mean I guess that's from earlier right
I fucked it up
there's a lot of time
to get your shit back here James
who is the biggest hero
wow
in crypto
who is the biggest hero in crypto
let's see
and whoever wants to go first
who if you have an idea
I'm going to stop the clock
when you start
who is the biggest hero
in crypto
this is where
hey
this is where the passion picks
right the passion picks are here to bear you some points okay because you're gonna do um i'm gonna do
shout out to peter pan i think peter pan who started metacartel and and has inspired and brought up a lot of
people i think certainly myself and then you know sort of fire eyes and the troop and the rest of us
through that process like peter has built a lot of fucking cool shit um and much much love for him hopefully
i'm allowed to swear i don't know yeah yeah he'll have to do a lot of things peter pan is the guy that
wrote the before Bitcoin series, which woke up, everyone up to the cypherpunk movement,
a little bit more. Not that we didn't know about the cypherpunk movement, but really illuminated
it and actually resulted in one of the merch drops out of Bankless Dow, the Cypherpuncti
T-shirt. Nice. Can I go next? Yeah, please. My crypto hero is Patricia Worthweller from
Poop. I think there's someone that made a name for himself in a space coming from a more
underdeveloped country, you know, having been able to be successful anywhere in the world and then taking
that success and putting it into a public good for the Ethereum ecosystem is literally
the most follower thing that you can do. So I'm going to go with Worthwater as my crypto hero.
Wow. Wow. From POOP, you said, right? Yes, sir. Sleeper, dude. All right. Who's next? You met him
in real life, Mike. Just fun fact. You've met this man. Patricio? Bro. Where? Where was I? In New York
Consensus 2019 at the D-5 event. I, listen, dude.
Thank you, Patricio, come say what's up.
You're crypto person in the year, bro.
Like, I'm happy I've met you, man.
You saw me, dude.
Who's next?
I'll go.
I'm going to say Griff Green because, firstly, he led the saving of the entire Ethereum space when the Dow
hack happened.
And then after that, he just kind of pushed forward on, like, the most pure, like,
awesome things in the space, never got caught up on, like,
you know, making money or making
chequins. And it's just also
like the nicest guy in the world.
So yeah, Ruff Green.
Gree. Nice shit. Nice pick.
I'm going to go with
Sam CZ's son. The amount of rug pulls
that he's prevented over the past few years
is probably north of billions,
hundreds of millions probably.
So that dude has saved us all
probably some money at some point.
So I can see the rest of my time.
Thank you, Sam.
The yield the rest of his time.
Dave, I think that leaves you.
Oh, gosh, the biggest hero I think in crypto has got to be Amin Soleimani.
The guy knows what's up.
He knows that this whole entire story was about coordination to begin with.
Taught me, I feel like almost everything I know about crypto at large.
He's willing to stick up for things that he believes in.
He had a personal brand.
He had a personal commitment to Ethereum.
And then he decided to burn that for some reason because he wanted to commit to sex-positive work.
and so he killed his reputation on purpose,
just lit it on fire because he doesn't give a fuck.
I think that's pretty cool.
It takes a big ball to really make that move happen.
And also, if you keep on searching on Twitter
and you go really deep down the Amin Rabbit Hole,
you can see him fucking a point star if you really want.
You can literally see his big bowl.
You can literally see them.
You just have to do like some basic searches.
Some very basic searching.
Yeah, so I won't really say that's why he's my biggest hero.
but that is a fun fact about a mean
cool so it was all about a means dick
for david
that's that's what the legacy of that was
going to be for everybody
good okay I think I'm going to have to give that one to James
oh you feel bad for the points now huh
at the end of the show
well worried about the point James you picked you picked
Peter Pan right
yeah yeah just so I can just so I can show
the cypher funk drop and bankless down once more
on the show
you know we harkened back to the Peter Pan thing and that so thanks again James
everybody's gonna get points here
um yeah yeah she's gonna hate you now not only do not remember if you don't give them points
either
oh do you get points you got points for that
you got points for that yeah wait where are the American points too
yeah wait where are the American points
yeah yeah
yeah yeah
yeah true okay once I get
points
101 let's add another decimal on
yeah
oh there's a wrong
Oh, wow.
I just got American points.
You can't take them away.
You've already put them in me.
You can't take them away.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Come on.
Slipping.
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
All right.
Oh, no.
You're right.
This accounting is all over the place.
I'm not, I'm anti-quant.
I'm anti-quant.
I'm anti-quant.
Don't get the, don't get this mixed up.
I can't count.
All right.
To pair with the hero,
who's the biggest villain in crypto?
Who's the biggest villain in crypto right now?
Think about your hero.
Who's the villain?
We're going to go ahead and start with David.
I'm going to go with Sam Bankman-Fried.
The guy is straight up called Bankman.
His last name is Bankman, first off.
He likes putting his name all over, not his name, but F-TX.
Count it the same.
All over buildings.
Like, who's the last person that we saw that likes to put his names on buildings?
Hmm.
And just like, you know, made a bunch of money with sending.
centralized exchanges, just not at all bankless.
You know, supporting Solana, doesn't really care about defy.
Like, the guy's a villain through and through.
I don't know why he doesn't have an eye patch.
As a guy who needs an eye patch.
I'll add the context that he's planning on donating all of his wealth.
I'll believe it when I see it.
All right.
I believe it.
We'll see.
Yeah, okay.
Controversial question.
Lucas, who is it, dude?
Who's the biggest villain in these days?
Craig Wright.
probably i think that's like a natural answer he's uh easy one yeah it's kind of a shithead
so i don't feel like i don't really need to explain myself on this he yields his time again
okay cooper who is uh who's the biggest villain in crypto these days the biggest villain is
no one we are all on this together thank you guys it's so good positive stuff games let's go run it up run it up
Have you never been rug pulled before, Cooper?
No, never in my life.
Yeah, there you go, that's why.
Cooper's happy when he gets rugs pulled.
He's like, you know, man, he really needed the money.
I'm so happy.
Other people can get money.
Like, I'm just like all I want.
Exactly right.
Okay, James or Calum, who is the biggest villain?
I'm about to not answer this question.
I'm about to answer this question honestly and be offensive.
My meme answer can be the other James wore.
So there's another James Moore in Crypto with the exact same name.
He's my personal villain.
He's my personal.
He's a cool dude.
He's a nice dude.
But, you know, bad portrait.
Portrait's a name.
Yeah, he must be good looking.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
I've met him in real life, actually.
I actually haven't met you in real life, but I have met him in real life.
Oh, so you're saying that I'm the fake James Gordon.
Well, allegedly.
Only one was on top signal.
Only one was on top.
All right.
Who's the real answer?
We need to hear it.
We need to hear it.
This is why people come to top soon.
They want to hear what James has to say about the big.
Okay, I'll give a good one, though.
What about blockchain Brad?
Blockchain Brad.
He's called out the boys.
He called out a bunch of the team.
No, I'm not about it.
Who's blockchain bread?
No, we don't know.
Exactly.
Wait, that's how you say it, right?
That is the right name.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, dude.
Just love.
I'm not a fan, blockchain, Brad.
All right, Callum.
Right. I'm going to say Charles Hoskinson, right? Because he's been lying to the teeth about Cardano being good and having smart contracts for fucking five years straight. Plus, every time I meet someone who's like brand new to crypto at like a meetup or like anywhere, all they have to say is like, bro, have you heard about Cardano? Have you bought Cardano? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I think he's hoodwinking a lot of people into pumping his like low tier shit coin. So yeah.
Five-tis-tiniest farmers.
What is with this incremental point giving?
It just doesn't matter.
That's the point.
It doesn't matter.
But that's what we have.
This is the layup of after crypto heroes and villains.
I appreciate the answer for Charles Hawkinson because, yeah, especially this bull market.
It's a good one.
Go ahead, Dave.
Why do you lay this one up for us?
Yeah.
I got this one.
This article came out today on coin telegraph saying,
Chris Bleck's combative approach inspired a uniswap proposal to raise $50 million to bribe him to leave Defi forever.
Until the money comes through, however, he'll continue his mission of bringing transparency to Defi by annoying devs with difficult questions.
So I think the question to the group is Chris Bleck, hero or villain?
And I think we should start with Lucas.
Hero, but he, I already said this, but he comes off like a prick.
I don't know.
He just needs to work on his approach.
He needs to really work.
I think he's trying to, like, he has good intentions, but people don't like how he approaches
things with those intentions.
James, Chris Black, you're all your villain.
I'm going to be meaner.
I'm going to say, like, straight villain.
I'm going to say, you know, like, has sold paid courses, you know, tries to, like,
purposely make money off the fact that he can be, you know, like, create drama.
And I think, like, you know, totally some of the points are really valid.
But if you do it in that kind of way, I'm a class you as a villain.
Yeah.
Call him. Chris Black, hero, villain.
Yeah, like, probably mild villain.
I just don't think, I think, you know, he has some good points,
but I don't think he adds more value to the space
than he, like, creates and drama and problems.
Fair enough. Cooper, how positive are you about to be right now?
Here we go.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
I'm going to say the early interviews with D5 founders
were actually very informative.
that's some of the first places I learned about Bal and Sarah Uma, a couple other DeFi summer
projects. So there is a string there of really good content. I know that it comes from a good
place to wanting to do safety and security. So while it does come across contentious in
times, I think that it does have a good intent in mind. And so for that, I'm going to say
corrupted hero. A reluctant man. He can't say anything negative. What do you think, Dave?
Oh, God. I think I'd like to judge people by their intentions, and I don't see Chris Bleck's
intentions as backing up what he is actually doing. So he does things and while those things are
positive, perhaps, allegedly, his intentions are not positive. His intentions are negative,
trying to drum up a bunch of drama to support him, his own brand and his own ego. So therefore,
villain. There's a spectrum here, right? Spectrum between heroes and villains. We respect what
Chris has done, but I think those are pretty fair assessments of the situation today. We also just
Talk about the fact that Coin Telegraph picked up this story and published it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, what the fuck?
Yeah.
Bear market shit.
Hey, also, Top Signal picked it up.
Look at that.
Oh, yeah.
If you want to throw some comments in here, we're going to peter this out, but the Bogdinoff twins bought East.
The pump it, dump it, guys.
Anybody have a hot take on this one?
Who the fuck are these freaks?
I think my favorite comment was they actually exist.
I thought that was the funny comment.
Me too.
I had no idea, but apparently they're important to some.
Looks like, no, I'm not even going to guess.
Or that looks French.
Okay.
Well, there you go.
Maybe Alex knows.
Maybe Mesmej is friends of the world.
Let's send them a message.
I love the name, Vitalik Buberin.
That's a good one.
Okay.
How many more do we have here?
No, let's skip to mine.
Let's skip to mine, Mike.
Yeah, this one, right?
Yes, what token are you emotionally attached to?
What defy token are you emotionally attached to?
If you really want to give an NFT answer, you are welcome to give an NFT answer.
This is the last one.
This one's for all the points.
This is for all the points.
Everyone fucking point here.
We're going to pick a winner here, okay?
So who wants to go first?
What token are you emotionally attached to?
Everyone take a moment to think.
Wow, that's a tough one.
And if you want to start talking, go and start talking.
Otherwise, I'm just going to pick.
Yeah, I mean, I can probably start. I think I'll have to go, Avey. I think, you know, from like the East Lynn days, I was like clicking on the buttons trying to lend East and a really broken UI. The ICO was directly after CryptoKitties started trading. And so CryptoKitties made bank and then you could put it at, or no, vice versa maybe. East Lynn came out and then I bought a bunch of Crypto Kitties with it. Giant fucking mistake. But I think Arvea are fucking lit and the team are cool and they're doing the right things. Emotionally attached for sure.
You can only say Avey if you actually owned it as Eithland.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Point there.
Okay.
Let's go American next.
Lucas.
Defy token.
I'll probably go index co-op.
So the index token.
I just think the way that they did it is like very community driven, community oriented.
And I just have to respect like what they've built over the past, I think like six to nine months.
They've done an incredible job for bootstrapping the community.
and like building defy products in a decentralized manner.
So shout out to index co-op.
I guess you abstain your time.
Make sure to buy the bet index,
which is coming out soon from the index co-op.
Yes, and the bank was a product of the bank was down.
Nice job.
All right.
Let's go to James on this one.
Sorry, column, column.
All right.
Australia like slightly not defy and say get coin.
because Gitcoin, you know, had for the longest time, didn't have a token, had no intentions of, you know, creating a token.
But I think it's the most ideologically aligned project and token with Ethereum.
And I would have said Eith, but I think that would have got a, you know.
Yeah, it's not a token.
Exactly.
Right.
Yeah.
And pretty good point for Fire Eyes, you know, is how do you go from not quite being ready for a token to launching a token?
You know, you put a fire eyes in the middle and then you hear.
Do I give him the buzzer or the ding for that way?
That's a classic top signal sound.
All right, Cooper, do you want to round it out or do you want to let Dave go for it?
Well, I was actually going to say Heath, but then I got told that I'm not out to use that answer.
You can talk about Weath, though.
Specifically Weath, though, so then it means you can't burn it and you can't stake it.
Yeah, so Weath, I love it.
wrapping it to been on NFTs. It's fantastic.
No, I was going to say EF because I owe my whole career to Ether.
I owe my whole, you know, community and everything that I've built to that ecosystem.
So I have no tattoos, and if I would ever get a tattoo in my life, it would be of the Ethereum
logo. So that's definitely my emotional attachment to it.
I can definitely resonate with that. I've never, we'll never, ever get a tattoo, except
for maybe the Ether logo, either on my back or on my ass, one of the two.
Yeah, or both.
Nice.
Heath one on the ass, he's two on the shoulder.
That's funny.
What is it, dude?
The token I am emotionally attached to, oh gosh, it's either going to be Rocket Pool or MakerDow.
I'm going to go with Rocket Pool.
Rocket Pool because, like James says, it was, it's a line, it's in a token that's aligned with Ethereum itself.
It fits the bill for decentralization, permissionless of access, permissionless of participation.
And it's very, very deep down in the protocol sink.
And it's a part of the Ethereum.
It's in the app layer.
Rocket pool's in the app layer, but it's an app layer that benefits the Ethereum protocol itself.
And so it's an app that the Ethereum protocol uses itself to promote its own decentralization
and security.
So I kind of consider RPL like a little satellite token that's orbiting around Ether, which is my other favorite asset.
And so RPL emotional attachment.
All of you guys.
Yeah, pump my bags.
I'm into it.
Another, another, what do we get like three of five FireEyes tokens?
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good.
Fire ice has worked with every single token.
No one said bank.
Yeah, it's too easy.
Too easy.
We were called D-Fi, too.
Yeah, I didn't get to make a comment, but Polygon-Matic,
I'm very emotionally attached to.
I think it, as a token, I think it showed people what,
like, hey, we need to pay attention to layer two right now.
And also, here's what could happen if we all moved over to layer two.
on Ethereum. There's a lot of good things.
Layer 2. Just a chain owned
60% by 5.
Listen, dude. I hit the polls.
Michael,
the more you see, my Hilo's about to jump into this
fucking Zoom and tell you walking the moment.
You're about to summon my Hilo, bro.
Michael, I see what you're doing. All you're doing
right now is pumping Ryan's advisor back.
That is literally all you're doing.
He gave me one stipulation as being a host on his show,
on his, on his platform, and that was to pump his bags.
So, yeah.
Remember nothing on top signals fact checked.
And that's awesome.
All right.
That one, David, we need that.
Listen.
Listen, as much as I, as much as I pretty damn sure Cooper won that, I do really want to give this game to James.
I was really happy.
I was complaining about it.
So now you're going to try to give me some points back.
Yeah, you need to have some self-confidence.
It has nothing to do with pity.
If James is getting all the points, it's going to have to come from Callum.
So Callum is going to have to go to zero.
But James can have five.
Yeah, there we go.
off those dodgy American points
that have been slipping out.
No, no.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
No dodgy points.
You're pretty sure
American points just got added in.
All right.
Well, James,
as our winner,
you're going to get 30 seconds
to talk about whatever the fuck you want.
Go ahead.
Oh, okay, okay.
Wait, wait, Dave, can you, Dave,
can you spot?
spotlight him.
He's pinned.
James is penned.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm going to talk about governance for 30 seconds, I guess then,
and just like governance in general across protocols.
I think, you know,
two years ago we learned about the term governance token.
We made infinite of them.
And now it's actually about like executing on that
and how like different communities,
you know,
fire is obviously one community,
but thinking about,
you know,
we talked about the idea of like fire spawn
or whether there be other,
you know, communities that are popping up.
The more and more people that engage in this governance process,
you know, this is what's going to make it open and transparent
and really fucking efficient.
is by more and more people getting involved and participating.
And actually, like, you know,
the upside of liquidity mining is $100 million per week.
The upside of governance should be $100 million per week as well,
in my opinion.
And so I'm excited to see, like,
shitloads of money flow into the hands,
people participating in these things.
You get two points because you used two swear words right there.
Nice.
That was good.
That was good.
Good job, everybody.
Hey, another Topson week in the books.
Before we wrap this up,
we have a question from Droste.
in the Dow to Cooper.
Well, yeah, he says,
how about guesses on how Cooper Trooper got his handle?
I bet a lot of the audience doesn't know,
including me.
Cooper Trooper.
It sounds like Cooper.
Starting there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cooper was my DJ name in college.
I used to play DJ sets all the time.
I have a SoundCloud account called Cooper Troopa that would upload all my mixes to.
And so we just ran with it.
you know, from DJ turned Twitter influencer.
We're going to run the show.
Wow.
That's dope.
Okay, well, there you go.
Joe stay.
Now you know, he got his free game no matter what.
Anyway, somehow Kupa got his free game to shill his SoundCloud, literally.
And that's great.
All right.
And I think if the last slide is that, then that's it.
Awesome, guys.
Thank you for joining us on Top Signal.
The only crypto comedy show that you guys know and love.
So this was episode two.
Stay tuned for episode three.
we got that coming sometime soon.
And then we also have episodes four, five, and six somewhat lined up.
Some chess is coming down the line with episodes, I think five.
I think we'll go from that.
And a police sketch artist.
If you don't know why, you'll find out soon.
Thanks everybody for watching.
If you want to catch our debrief episode, check out that episode on Up Only,
whatever they're putting out next.
And we'll see you next time.
For playing and for winning this round of top signals.
Yeah.
We need to work on the accounting system here.
