Barbell Shrugged - 110- National Pro Fitness League. Have you heard about the NPFL?

Episode Date: March 26, 2014

Hey, this is Rich Froning. You're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version, go to barbellshrugged.com. Boom! Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, the number one host in all of podcasting, Mike Blank! Well, fuck, that's a good introduction. Man, uh... There he is. Can you believe it? Mike Blank! Oh, fuck. That's a good introduction. Man. Ah, ah, there he is. Can you believe it? He's trying to get me to like pro wrestling. This is CTP's way of getting me to buy into pro wrestling. Is it working?

I don't think that was pro wrestling. Sounds like a pro wrestling. This is exciting. Yeah, I mean, that'd be MMA, too. That's like Bruce Buffer. Yeah, Bruce Buffer. He's the UFC. UFC, yeah.

Don't you feel ready now, though? I do feel ready. Thank you. That's Michael Buffer. But there's two Buffers. There's all kinds of Buffers. Two Buffer is the UFC. Don't you feel ready now, though? I do feel ready. Thank you. That's Michael Buffer. But there's two Buffers. There's all kinds of Buffers. Two Buffer brothers. Yeah, we were up in Columbus for a UFC a few years ago,

and somebody we knew was sitting within the vicinity of Bruce Buffer, and they overheard him ordering his food, and they said he sounded just... As you ordered his food, it sounded like he was just in the ring but just like quiet and reserved and a little bit sad and lonely like he lives for that moment he was announcing the pasta salad he was ordering we had that time we were that dude's diesel he's not eating pasta we had that time we were in

columbus and we were having breakfast with some of the mma dudes or lunch or something he was there too over there he was wearing like a sport jacket. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Somebody was sitting closer to him. Oh, they heard him order. I just saw this guy who was like, he was reading and had this like super nice, well-cut jacket, sports jacket, then a t-shirt and like sweatpants,

like flip-flops. Like what the fuck is that? Was he like, it's hungry. It's time. All right, guys. We'll get on with the episode. Make sure you go over to barbellshrug.com. Sign up for the newsletter. We're going to send you updates about the stuff we're doing, maybe, we'll get on with the episode. Make sure you go over to barbell shrug dot com. Sign up for the newsletter.

We're going to send you updates about the stuff we're doing, maybe places we're traveling episodes when they come out. As you know, last week we had two episodes posted. And if you weren't subscribed to that, then you may have missed that. So we're going to talk about getting bigger and stronger. I know we've talked about this a lot, but hopefully we're going to hit this from a little more... Let's not pretend it's always not just the coolest thing in the world. A little more scientific perspective.

Everyone wants to get bigger and stronger all the time. As CrossFit kind of gets more and more evolved, it becomes more and more important. Yeah, I guess more strength-oriented for sure. The weights get heavier. And not only that, the Open is finishing up right now. So if you were going

to choose a time of the year i know that as soon as the open is over most people's minds they gravitate towards getting bigger and stronger and then as it gets closer to open everyone wants to do more conditioning that's everyone knows that's kind of how uh the natural season the ebb and flow of of the crossfit season it's turning into like any other sport that's kind of how it goes for if you're a college football player a college baseball player or soccer player like that's pretty much how it works you get done with your season you go get as strong as you possibly can you get as fast as you possibly can and then when the season approaches you lay conditioning over that newfound strength and speed it also splits the population too those who think

you can just do the same thing always all the time become the people who don't really improve. And the people who do the off-season type approach and the off-season type approach and push for certain metrics and have a year-long plan, they get really fucking good at what they're trying to get good at. That was actually one of the biggest mistakes I made when I first started doing CrossFit is I kind of threw out all that, threw out a lot of the previous knowledge of like, this is what every sport does for success. I forgot about all of it. That's a really good point. And I just did CrossFit for a while.

And then after a few years, I don't want to say a few, a couple years, I was like, it's about a year and a half. I mean, I think that's the magic number for a lot of people. After about a year and a half ago, we should probably start applying some of these principles that have been tried and true for 50 years. The science is not perfect. We all know the limitations of sports science research and all that. We can go on about that. But the flip side, which we haven't maybe talked about before, is that

all that shit is people that worked long and hard and trained for a long time, guys like Stone and Garhammer and all these athletes for this whole 100, 150 years behind us, the ideas that came out of that is really still quite relevant they can't just toss it all out because it's revolution habits more of like a mix what does work from that in with the new and kind of have a a new new differently balanced thing but still

has a lot of that absolutely yeah one of the things cross has done is taking a lot of those those strength and conditioning ideas and kind of like added a new twist to them and uh people are trying out a lot of things, combining things that were never combined before. So that's really good. Now there's another reason people might be interested in getting stronger. And, uh, that is because of the NPFL. If you haven't heard of the NPFL, go to NPFL.com. It's the national pro fitness league. And I'll just do a quick summary of it, probably very poorly. There's going to be teams. The National Pro Fitness League.

I'm trying to, how do I approach this? Tony Budding left CrossFit HQ back in like November. He started this thing called the NPFL. He wanted there to be a fitness league where people could compete in two hour matches like you would other sports. Very different kind of idea. Kind of like football, you know.

Team sport. Yeah, once a week. Yeah, team sport. That's important. Shorter duration. I think there's, you know, I think they're saying

there's seven people on the team right now, but that might get bigger or something like that. Do they have cheerleaders? It's going to be, definitely going to be cheerleaders. I don't know about that.

This fucking thing has to have very attractive. You can have male cheerleaders there too. I'm not going to have cheerleaders? It's definitely going to be cheerleaders. I don't know about that. This fucking thing has to have very attractive. You can have male cheerleaders there, too. I'm not going to say you can't have both, but you've got to have some attractive entertainment around the court. Yeah, that's going to make it perfect, man. CTP is like, I'll film it. Yeah, so it's going to be, hold on, something the size of a basketball court.

There are teams in different cities. Right now, I know that there are four or five teams 100% bought in. They've already started signing athletes. These are professional athletes. They're going to get paid per match, $2,500 per match. And then on top of- There's people you've heard of too. On top, yes.

On top of the salaries that might be offered and bonuses and stuff like that from the team owners and management and stuff like that. So this is going to turn into like kind of a team, a traditional team sport that you would see in the United States. It's going to be the first time these CrossFit athletes have been able to make a consistent income, not from sponsors, but from actually competing.

Like if you go to the games, you win, you get a big check once a year and it's only a handful of people that get that. But in this case, they're going to be doing a competition once per week. I'm not sure their salaries are what they're getting per game, but they're getting a once a week, multiple times per month payout. And that's going to be able to give the consistent revenue where they can actually train year round and get paid year round. From what I understand. Yeah, they're going to get paid by the NPFL per match and then they might get additional salaries on top of that.

And so, yeah, these athletes that were normally paying to train and compete are now going to get paid to train and compete. And it used to be just the top tier of athletes. I mean, you had to be top three in the whole world to make any real money at this.

And now there's going to be several people per city. Those are tough odds. Very tough odds. Make sure you study. This is the first time I've seen, I've been talking to some athletes and they're very hopeful. This is like, you know,

a new light in a tunnel type of thing. You know, they've been doing CrossFit because they love it. They've been competing in CrossFit because they love it. But now they're going to be able to get paid, you know, in a much more stable way. And the other thing I really love about this,

and this is the first thing that occurred to me when I found out about the MPFL and started researching it, I've talked to Tony a couple times, is they're going to actually, this is going to be a much more spectator-friendly sport. People are going to have a much more enjoyable time watching it, and people who don't really understand CrossFit

are going to understand who's winning and who's losing. you go to mpfl.com and look at more of that i think it sets the stage for a rapid expansion of people who would be interested and therefore the amount of i mean anytime more eyes are going to watch it and it's more punched up condensed version crossfit there's a huge potential for growth two hours so i'm seeing a couple things i'm seeing is one the format is a lot different. Like, like I don't know, we've talked about it,

Mike, the, the way the competition is going to go. And so the inherent nature, it's closed course, it's short, it's punchy. These things like substitutions,

the different kinds of competitions. Like now you're interesting, introducing all these curve balls. It's a whole different structure competition, curve balls for how you compete. There's pay incentives. How does this now trickle down and affect everybody's training is what I'm really going to pay close attention to.

It's going to change how people approach things again. Yeah, it's going to change the game because teams will have specialists and they'll have generalists and there's going to be this magic ratio that people are going to be looking for. There's much more of a tight union between the way high-level football preparation typically

goes and what has been evolving rapidly across it. It could be this new sort of cross-strain form. I'm very curious to see how it goes. When I first heard about it, I'll be honest, I was like, what? And then the more I've learned about it. Did you make that face too? I made that face. The more I've learned about it, I'm like,

I'm actually much more excited about it now. You're titillating. Yeah, so what I wanted to mention is this is the first year. It's going to be a short season. So there's going to be five to eight teams and it's going to be a shorter season and it's kind of like a test.

And then next year they're going to, they plan to have a big expansion. Well, if you want to get on one of these teams, they're signing some people already However a lot of owners And managers and coaches are waiting for the Combines I got the list of combines right here

Which is more or less tryouts I didn't even plan this Alright so in LA it's April 4th through 7th, Dallas 11th through 13th Atlanta 25th through 27th and Boston made second through fifth so at these combines it is super

one rep max friendly for weight lifting I have the list right here if you go to profitnessleague.com slash combines you can see it

it's a long fucking weekend I'll tell you that well it's a day you have a day you have eight hours to get through one RM front squat one RM press one RM overhead squat, one around press,

one RM overhead squat, one RM jerk, one RM deadlift. All right. This is all one Rams. I'll just leave. Clean and jerk snatch. One are clean because not only do you have to find your clean jerk,

but then you find your jerk separately. You're clean separately. And then you have max reps, max reps, a chest of our pull-ups in 90 seconds, handstand pushups in 90 seconds, muscle ups in 90 seconds, box uh in 60 seconds pistols 45 seconds per leg double unders 90 seconds rope climbs 90 seconds handstand walk for distance 60 seconds farmer carry didn't designate how much

didn't designate the weight max distance 60 seconds and shuttle run max in 60 seconds And shuttle run max distance in 60 seconds And then This all has to be completed in an 8 hour period And they've got stations set up And it's got some stuff on here Then you have 2 different AMRAPs Or 2 different Metcons One is 5 rounds of 12 power cleans And 6 push press with a 12 minute cap

I won't mention the weights AMRAP is a seven minutes of 20 thrusters and 20 bar facing burpees plus one K row. So it's a long day, dude. You better have your, you better refuel 500 times. It is a long day, but as you can see, super weightlifting oriented, very strength oriented. And the way they're talking about orienting the sport is there's a lot of changes going on. So the ability to lift really heavy weight and be able to do things interval style not continuously all the way through is going to be really beneficial uh so they're going to make it where you can have your power lifter specialist go in and do the heavy weight

and you can switch it out and have your gymnastics guy go in and do all the chest to bar pull-ups unbroken you can switch back and forth or how's each individual event within the total event structure they're talking about i think there's gonna be 11 total events in two hours and 11 events in two hours 11 events in two hours and they gotta be short and it's and it's laid out like a field so like you start here and you progressively move down the field so like if you get up this is exactly how tony uh describes it in the video i saw on youtube you get up you go get a beer you come back and there's no doubt who's in the lead because they're further down the field uh so uh even to someone who's not as uh crossfit savvy you know uh it's like a scoreboard

they're gonna be able to... How many people go watch NBA that never really played basketball before? Almost everybody. The only people watching CrossFit games are CrossFitters. This might actually give opportunity to people who may not be CrossFitters, really enjoy the sport and support their home team.

People are going to see... They're by city. You're going to look in the field. You're going to see visual reminders of who's winning. You're going to see. They're by city. You're going to look in the field. You're going to see visual reminders of who's winning. You're going to see a lot of really attractive fit people doing the thing. I love attractive fit people. Intense screaming and intense energy coming from the lifting of the things. I don't know how it doesn't go over like gangbusters. It sounds like it's basically perfect.

But it depends what those uniforms are. What are the uniforms gonna be i think if they're like if they're like basketball shorts like i gotta talk to you guys about this you need stacy tovar shorts just in all the city's colors for the guys for the guys what would the girls wear i don't know i mean i can venture a guess like banana hammocks is that a thing with girls they like they don't have bananas. You gotta have a banana to have a banana hammock. Philadelphia founders, banana hammocks,

you know, with Ben Franklin's logo on the tip or something. What are all the teams? The Philly founders, there's LA. I own the LA team. LA Rain.

Phoenix. Rain Supreme. What's the Phoenix team? Phoenix is... What is it? I don't remember. What's the Phoenix team? Where else?

Somebody is the Firebreathers. Maybe that's Phoenix, right? Phoenix Firebreathers? Oh, no, that's OPT's team, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's their team. If we got it wrong, sorry. Hang on.

Someone else talk real quick. I'm trying to find it. The MPFL podcast is brought to you by... Yeah, I mean, it's cool to talk about it. It's brand new. It's something that uh that's probably on a lot of people's minds and if you haven't heard about it uh that's highly likely because the only people that are probably that i've talked to about it and are seem pretty

savvy about are uh like the elite level coaches uh the elite level athletes um and some people that are interested in owning a team outside Outside of that, they haven't done very much promotion in the community. I think they're leaving a lot of that up to the team owners to really promote within their cities. Again, I'm just talking out my ass. Let's see. It's my speculation. See, Philadelphia has a team.

Amit Shah, the guy that owns Wattify, great guy, good friend of ours, owns that team now. Phoenix is awarded to, owned by basically James Fitzgerald and John Calhoun of OPT. See LA, LA, New York, and San Francisco are the other ones. So we only got five

teams at the moment. Yeah, and then word on the street is where'd you get this? Oh, you're titillating me now. Go ahead. I've heard there might be one. I don't know if I'm supposed to even talk about this. Is it going to be in Memphis? And do you own the team?

Oh, shit. The Memphis. No, there's not going to be a Memphis team, I don't think. I've heard nothing about that. There are some other teams that are looking at other large cities that might start up. But I think they're trying to geographically diversify, especially in the beginning. But regardless, this is going to have profound change.

Yeah, so if you thought that the CrossFit Games were very strength-oriented... It's going to get worse. The NPFL is going to be even more strength-oriented because when you look at this, half of it is one about max strength, and then the other is max rep strength for gymnastics which is again

for short intervals. It's a strength. If you guys do all that shit in two hours you're going to have to be short and punchy and strength dominant if it's going to be competitive and I'm not complaining. I love it even more and that's I love it even more because in the end we win. The people who hate running win again.

Fuck everything. Strong. Being strong is still the coolest thing. It's all the chicks believe it or not. more because in the end we win the people who hate running win again fuck everything strong being strong is still the coolest thing so it gets all the chicks believe it or not makes you awesome at crossfit even though there's a lot of running but the uh you know one of my biggest complaints about the crossfit game is i have to invest three days to follow it with this i have to invest two hours a weekend it's sort of like when you see strongmen on that's like it's on a week during espn you see little blocks of it, and it's spread out. You get interested in it, but you don't get the experience. Don't follow it.

I don't follow it. You don't get the ritualistic, like we sit down as a family, and every Sunday at 2 p.m., we watch our fitness league comp. That's just what we do in this family. We cheer for the L.A. rain. If you cheer for those sons of bitches, the founders, get out of my house. It's going to turn into that kind of thing on some level. I would like to see this on ESPN. And I think we are going to – I don't want to make any promises,

but we are going to cover at least one of the combines, and we're going to be knocking that one out. We're looking at covering Atlanta right now. That's the only – and it's not because we want to cover all of them, but our schedule got real tight on us real fast, and we're only able to make the one in Atlanta. We'll go report and see what's going on. So we'll be hanging out.

You can say hi to us. We'll be getting an interview with Tony Budding so he can basically tell me I was wrong about all the things I just said about the NPFL. Sorry, Tony. If we did butcher anything, or if you don't think banana hammocks are a good idea, we apologize to you on the air, man.

But I think that's where it's at. Oh, shit. So they got some sample team events on here. They got a couple different structures. They got one man, one woman, two men, or two women. Two women. Is this a porn description? Two women.

Look at caveman. Two women. Two men plus two women. Three, three, or four, four, basically. So they got a couple different structures. They're going to be up to eight people per team if they're doing four men plus two women three three or four four basically so they got a couple different structures they're gonna be up to eight people per team if they're doing four men plus four women in one event yeah i think one of the the cool things about this too is it's required that you have uh one female and one male master's division so 40 plus that's right so uh you know one of the draws of that is that on your team on on your team. OK, somebody on your team has be old.

They're not old, Chris. They have to be a master. They're relatively speaking. They're just they're the leaders on the team. Yeah. Relative to the people that are younger than them. Yeah, I think that this is me. I'm describing what I kind of like about that is anybody.

People in the stands might better be able to, what's it called, identify with the people competing. If there's somebody like you. Words hard to come out my mouth. Yeah. All right, so we want to talk about getting strong, and one of the things we want to talk, part of that was if you want to do well in CrossFit,

you want to be strong in MPFL, now you got to be even stronger. It's becoming more of a pressing need. You might want to just listen up when we talk about how does he get strong. And we've talked about training programs in the past, and we've talked about why they work and stuff like that, but we want to dig in a little bit on why these strength programs actually work and what type of stimulus makes you stronger.

And I'll try to stay away from using words like stimulus. So wait, real quick, for the combines, do you have to get invited to the combine? Or is that like a walk-in type thing? You could just show up

and just compete and just... There's a place to... On your own? There's a place to sign up. I think they're using Eventbrite as their registration software. I think it's 50 bucks to compete so i wouldn't worry about people clamoring to rush in there and do it just for fun because

it looks brutal i think people are going to have fun doing it but i i mean you know if uh you know 10 years ago i would have signed up but now i'm scared of looking so foolish i'm just kidding yeah let's take a break real quick. When we come back, we're going to talk about how to get strong. Yeah. Boom. And we're back. We were going to talk about training, how to get bigger and stronger and going to the science of all that.

But we got on this NPFL rant and we're looking at the website. We decided this is a lot more fun to talk about. I think we'll cover how we might prepare for the combine, which will be very applicable information. We're on a roll on this. I say we stick with it. The combine's a spectator thing or is that a private inside thing only?

Can you get drunk in the stands and watch? I plan on getting drunk. Sounds like a great time. It says approximately 200 men and 200 women will be invited to each combine. So that's a pretty big event. I'd imagine they'd have people like hanging out, watching, having a good time, watching their friends, family members. I would assume so. It's not.

I think it would be a fun day. It'd be really fun. And it's three-day weekend. So I guess they're segmenting athletes for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. And it looks like you only have one day that you're actually doing it. So you're not doing three days worth of stuff is what it looks like. So, yeah, it says you have all those different stations for one rep maxes on weightlifting type stuff.

And then you have all that max rep stuff for the gymnastics related stuff. How many times are you going to say stuff? Note. Sorry. Thanks for pointing that out so i'll avoid saying stuff uh but you know as you notice the if you got a bar in your hand you're probably doing one rep max and if you're moving your body around you got multiple reps so what are we talking about npf real question is who's going to commentate this bad boy?

Because I know three dudes who might do a pretty good job. I'm not sure I want that gig. We'll see. I'll never say never. Never say never. I think I'll be terribly impressive in that role. Think of all... It depends.

I thought you were going to say bad, and then you were like, I would be amazing. I could be the John Madden type who just basically says nonsensical things and injects undue commentary. Just repeat yourself constantly. It depends on where they show. Like, is this going to be on TV? That's one thing my question would be is where will these events be streamed online? I'd say worst case scenario this year is streamed online. Right.

So we have some, we could cuss and talk. I think they need Jim Ross from WWF. Oh my God, that man just kept that bull up in hair. Oh God. It says under the sponsor category

that about something about exclusive coverage on TV, something, something, something. So they're going to put it on TV somewhere. I could clean up the language,

Tony. I could abstain from the banana hammock commentary or, you know, master basting jokes just for this this two-hour block of time i think i could keep it together oh geez i'll add the the the colorful

commentary the part and i just need somebody who can actually comment intelligently about what they're doing specifically yeah the league matches will start in late august 2014 and be aired live yeah it just doesn't say where it's going to be aired. That's cool. Man, if it was on regular TV, I'd be. So if you were going to prepare for this, Michael, I said there's a young, healthy Michael Bledsoe who's not wrecked from head to toe with crippling joint degeneration and all this stuff. Don't tell people I'm crippled.

Come on. That's a secret. Let's say you're just going on this journey. You've got all this green pasture ahead of you. You want to give this a go. You have the background in CrossFit already. You have some basic strength endurance and all that stuff. You've been through

the pipe a couple times. How do you change your training? Where do you start to put together a plan for addressing this kind of challenge? This real heavy strength influence. Well, if it was a decade ago of me and I was 22 years old, I would totally botch the program uh watch the program i would botch it not it'd be knowing knowing what you do now

oh no you had knowing what i know now with my old body yeah so uh yeah so if if being a crossfitter i think a lot of people are used to doing the long uh, light weights, and stuff like that. And I think you've got to ditch that type of program. I think it'd be time to do, as you can see here, I'd say at least half of your volume needs to be strength volume. You need to spend half the time in your gym working on the Olympic lifts, getting a good heavy front squat, deadlift. These are all things that are going to come along with us a pop you know a solid weight lifting program and then when you're looking at these gymnastics movements max

reps in 90 seconds and we're talking about the combine we're not talking about training for the mpfl we're talking about training for the combine specifically you're now you're training muscular endurance too and there is a there is a segment for two met cons, which are going to be a little more not as muscular endurance oriented and going to be a little more total system training, whatever you want to call it. But for the muscular endurance stuff, this is probably where you want to put most of your eggs for your training. So that muscular endurance and that max strength, because that's going to carry over really well to those two Metcons that you're going to end up having to do at the combine as well so i would say majority of training is is weightlifting and working on muscular endurance and a gymnastics capacity so you do all your

weightlifting work you work position position positions the cows come home you push up your your squat strength you do all that you you make sure no weakness is there. But then your WOD, is it basically kind of like weightlifting specific? Shit, my mouth. Weightlifting specific assistance work times, you know, just sort of your traditional thing, a weightlifting dude is faster paced, like what we do. You know, I think, yeah, you do a very much more traditional, probably more traditional weightlifting type programming for this

than you would most CrossFit programs. The muscular endurance or the gymnastic stuff, I think this is a good time to practice the gymnastic stuff in intervals and kind of do like sets and reps for this instead of like putting them in Metcons. So this is a good time. So would you do it? This is where you're doing like handstand pushupsups assistance work yeah yeah you treat them like assistance work but you might say 10 handstand push-ups rest 60 seconds 10 handstand push-ups something like that versus like throwing handstand push-ups in your wand i i think you do more of that and then you also use a lot of progressions and advanced progressions so to train handstand push-ups

you don't always just do handstand push-ups you're doing train handstand pushups, you don't always just do handstand pushups. You're doing deficit handstand pushups. You're also doing any kind of pressing. So this is where like, you're going to get a lot of benefit from doing some dips, ring dips, stuff like this. Things that may not be directly tested here, but the assistance work to kind of go along

with that gymnastics work. Yeah, speaking of handstand pushups, one of the example workouts they have on here is two men plus two women and the combined total says three stations everyone can work at the same time but it's 70 handstand push-ups 50 deficit handstand push-ups and then 30 ring deficit handstand push-ups right as a team it's nothing but handstand push-ups and and you you finish with ring deficit handstand push-ups. So your overhead strength on your gymnastics skills is going to have to be pretty solid to do something like that.

I think you're going to see a lot of freak shows show up, which is going to be really cool to watch. These people are going to be really strong and have a lot of muscular endurance. As opposed to CrossFit, where you get penalized for being the guy who can crush the shit out of some handstand push-ups, but is not good at some other things.

It's penalized in one, but here it's a really strong focus. I wonder how the ref is going to be. You could be the guy who comes off the bench to crush overhead work and make a good living doing it. Yeah, I don't know about the judging. That would be a bit, because you'd have to do stuff like the open, where it's like very easy stuff to judge. But this is an opportunity to have more professional referees

and judges and stuff like that um it's a whole new economy yeah i get one of the other one of the other example workouts on here is just one man one woman it's 12 9 6 3 snatches and box jumps and it gets heavier and higher box jumps as you move through the reps and it goes 155 85 15 and then 245 for your last set of three and then your box jumps go from 30, 30 up to 36 and 36. So you're going to have to be snatching up to 245 for three reps towards the end of a workout like that. Like you're going to have to be a strong dude to do this,

which is kind of the whole point of our conversation here. Very skill and strength oriented here. Yeah, like we can see from the combine, they're testing all one rep maxes, but there's no like one rep max you have to hit. Like lay it out on the example page but looking at these workouts like the competition is going to be going to be guys that can do just that snatch 245 for a set of three after doing you know multiple reps with slightly slightly lighter weights for slightly higher reps but that's no joke dude i'm gonna like watching this these events because

well that's a bunch of strong strong ladies successful we will inherently go like this is pretty fucking cool i love the crossfit games but i think this is gonna be more fun to watch don't make any enemies my friend i go along with that especially if the cheerleaders are dressed the way i'm suggesting has hq said anything about the mpfl yet not that not that i've heard i mean they may have and i just i've been having my head down a little bit lately so i don't know it's got it's got to annoy them when people refer to the mpfl as crossfit because it's not crossfit it's something totally different it's a different fitness league and it's not crossfit even though it probably looks just like crossfit to people that don't know what crossfit is if you look at the description if you look at how crossfit

describes fitness this isn't exactly in line with that this is and this is the way tony describes it is it's this is a sport you know a performance sport you know a performance race so it's not so much uh i don't think i've heard him call it fitness it's more like a performance type thing this is also going to be more consistent across competitions do you think i mean like there is a crossfit's always been a little bit like strongman where, yeah, there's some trends emerge that repeat competition to competition. But still, you don't know what you're going to face. And it always sort of limits it in some way because it can never be a formal sport. It doesn't repeat in a pattern.

I'd be willing to bet. How far ahead of time do you know the workouts? One week. One week? One week ahead of time. And I'd be willing to bet. It's very common stuff, 80 to 90 percent. And then maybe, you know, the 10 percent is where they throw something like the pig in. This could be a thing.

I mean, I'm just talking on my ass. The pig. The pig. This could be a thing where if you do, if it does become a formal thing, like now the fitness now becomes a specific sport with repeating events that are sort of a standard you got to be good at this stuff like a decathlon type thing this is these are the this is what we specifically test you when it compete in to be fit it's a much narrower view then that thing can be a thing that goes well this is going to change every week but i yeah but if

it repeats in some pattern then it's it's it's a version of this that could be it on well i think i think or something i think you see the pattern in the it's a version of this that could be an Olympic sport or something. I think you see the pattern in the combine. I think this is the path where this fitness thing, this revolution, becomes something that could be an Olympics. The only reason I don't think it can become an Olympic sport is just... Not that I want it to. I'm just saying it becomes a sport. It's because the event changes from week to week.

The Olympics is always... Every sport, the rules never change. Maybe every 50 years, you know, the change. But regardless, I think these two things, people might see it where they cross over, maybe where they're duplicated. I think it's a nice, mutually beneficial thing. One growing only supports the other, I think. So what do you think about training for this, Chris?

How would I do it? Yeah. First things first, lots of anabolics. Lots of anabolics. Beat the test, do whatever to make that money. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. It looks like something that's going to turn a lot more into traditional sports performance training.

You know, now you're bringing this up. I wonder if they're going to drug test for this. Sure as shit better. You're offering money. It's going to be a problem. I'm not saying people are going to start using DoIt, but I mean, come on. If you're offering a sure thing. There's sports that don't and sports that do if you're offering a sure if you're offering a nice paycheck for for physical

capacity and it's going to offer all kinds of exposure it's going to be a concern yeah i think i have some type of simulation about what the event arena might look like similar to like a rogue rig looking type thing it's like got the monkey bars and some areas to do rogue climbs I feel like I'm looking at a future sport like

like like something lasers are gonna be starting to shoot now it looks like the NBA arena meets like Mad Max or something

or WWF meets basketball it's missing a cage are they gonna come out with a MPFL video game like where it's like you're like pressing A a whole bunch keep on pressing more muscle ups that's why I was headed to like those videoFL video game where you're pressing A a whole bunch to do some pull-ups. Keep on pressing.

More muscle-ups. That's why I always hated those video games that were like, you're running track. You're like, A-B, A-B, A-B, A-B, A-B. To that point, I always hated, hated, hated all those games.

On Nintendo, it used to be an Olympics game. The weightlifting was just, you had to crush the shit out of your B button. You had to rub it on your pants like, da-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, you lifted it, you lifted it. Of course, the snatch is like this. Lift, lift. Oh, you've almost got it off your head. Keep pushing that button. You had to rub it on your pants like da-na-na-na-na-na-na. Oh, you lift it, you lift it. Of course,

the snatch is like this. Lift, lift. Oh, you've almost got it off your head. Keep pushing that button. Successful lift. And you put it down. But literally,

that's all it took. Best video game I ever played was Excitebike. Love Excitebike. You make your own course? That was a good time. Oh, yeah, dude.

That was so much fun. And now you can get just those remotes at the mall. And it's got 200 games in just the remote. Superintendent of WrestleMania with Bam Bam Bigelow is pretty dope too man come off the top rope in that game whereas now there's always combinations you gotta be like a little engineering mind to play video games now but back in the day you just had those two buttons you want to punch a guy in

the face you just hit that one button yeah i made i made the mistake of checking out so i went from like super nintendo to not playing video games for like a decade. And then I'm like, yeah, I'll sit down and play some Xbox. John hands me a controller. I go, what is going on? Like, how do I hold it? He's like, you got it upside down. The specific thing I like to see some sort of formal science around the kind of, you know, the plasticity of the brain and the young kid. And what changes in your brain when you do all that complicated,

extremely difficult shit in these modern games. Like the combinations of buttons on a controller to do what you want to do in these complex 3D environments has to fundamentally change. I know we're getting way off topic,

but I think the coolest thing they've done with video games is they've like solved problems for, was it solved, like curing some like, what's it called? Diseases. Yeah.

Yeah. You're like curing diseases with video games. Like, they're like, oh, we got to find a solution to this problem. Scientists have spent years working on this, this algorithm and they make it a video game. People go on there and solve it within a few hours. Like, it's like crowdsourced. Was the disease boredom? disease well science is like anything you get into a rut and you keep looking for answers in the same ways that you think the answers in the same sort of pattern and flow they

need to come in and that's not always true so adding a little randomness to it that's what happened in crossfit there was that we talked about the balance between there's these proven pathways to strength and they're proven because they work but it's not balance between there's these proven pathways to strength. And they're proven because they work. But it's not as if there's something else that isn't out there waiting that can't be combined and re-scrambled to make this thing better. And that was the variable that came across. It's like everything was really good, but a little stale and a little bit too much in the rut. And this new thing comes along and makes you question things like, can you do endurance training and still be strong as shit? Because you just like this. These are two parallel roads. You want to cross over. you got to get off and get on the other one but you can't just intermingle and that's that's actually i don't think true at all

i've seen too many people get really fit and i go right they can't lift what they're gonna lift and now they're lifting weights they're almost national level fucking weightlifting competition style there's gonna be a crossover where a guy beats you in weightlifting and then beats some other guy who's really good at running at their own game too but he's doing it all at the same time i didn't think that was possible and i'm seeing differently now yeah this big kind of crowdsourced global experiment with everyone's results showing up online for everyone in the world to see has really made crossfit and mma as an as another example evolved super super fast it adds a variable that no one was really planning on i and i like anybody i thought the open and all that shit was was silly like how are you gonna have a competition

that's just open source and all these people are just getting involved with all their fucking ideas and all their influence of course that's just that's just the um the socially imprinted you know old school from where we came from type type attitude we gotta figure it out man you won't get strong there's a proven way to get strong. And then you see how successful it is. Yeah, all the libertarian CrossFitters saw it. You don't kick out. It's not a revolution. It's not a revolution against what was there.

It's not like kicking it out. It's a vital and necessary recombination of ideas. So take what you know works, twist things all around in a new sort of, just put it all in a blender and see what comes out. And it turns out, bad analogy. Keep going. And it turns out that analogy, what turns out is that you get something that is much better than what you had before. I,

I don't think any of us now would dream about even programming for ourselves without some influence of this CrossFit thing. We wouldn't go back to doing it just like we did. Wouldn't prescribe anything the same way now, but I think the really rich ground is combining all the periodization, all the science, everything you knew with the new twist that CrossFit is afforded. Cause it is,

that is the brand new never before thing component. So same thing to sports performance preparation with this MPFL stuff. So Mike, you've been the one that's been in contact with Tony here lately. I'd imagine with, with any event that anyone's putting on in the CrossFit space or any space, the, and as we know,

we've put on some live events before really what you need is sponsors, judges, and volunteers. Have you talked to Tony about that at all? Is he looking for people right now? I'm not sure. I haven't talked to him about the volunteers perspective. I think that teams, I don't think they're having any trouble finding people in the beginning. They got enough people coming out of the woodwork to hire people to help out with this. I mean, it's picking up a lot of steam. I'd imagine he has a good team under his belt at this point or a lot of people that are kind of helping him push this forward. You might be listening to Doug like, oh, fuck, I need a team. Hey, guys, give me my phone.

I didn't think about that. Volunteers. To that point, people who are, look, if you are a CrossFitter and you're in the town, if you're philly if you're in was it phoenix san francisco la new york wherever the city is if you're there and around i'd say if you want to see it succeed think of ways you get involved show up and support tell your friends about actually my my biggest concern is uh the sponsorship side of things because it yeah it it seems like a an expensive undertaking and I'm just wondering who's going to sponsor it. Budweiser. I hadn't heard of any sponsors at this point.

That's my biggest one. I think volunteers, I mean, if a gym can put on a competition and we've gotten like 50, 60 volunteers to commit for an entire weekend from sunup to sundown type of thing, I think they're going to be able to find people to volunteer for an afternoon and stuff like that for for a two-hour competition obviously there's going to be it's probably a whole weekend's worth of work to put on a two-hour competition but it's going to be a little bit different and i'm assuming they have funding here on the front end to hire people and stuff like that do you think that gets better though because inherently

what you're doing with this is exposing it to a wider audience is that not the case shorter it's punchier it's a little more standardized, so more people can potentially identify it. If more people identify and see fitness as being cool, there's other larger entities, maybe good corporate partners, who go, right, we just sell general health. Maybe we get involved with this. There's probably more opportunity for sponsorship.

That's just my biggest fear in regard to that. But I'm pretty confident those guys that are running npfl are are heading that off and and uh i don't think they would have jumped in without already thinking of that for sure uh but what i what i'm interested to see is there's two things is uh this is right between the open and regional so a lot of people are competing in regionals we'll be doing the combines so that's interesting. It's a little bit of a distraction, potentially. You know, I thought it was going to be, and I started looking at what it is.

You want to be good at all this stuff if you're going to regionals anyway. And I don't think this is going to beat a regional-level athlete. This isn't going to beat them up too much. Do you think this starts causing a poaching problem? Like, does CrossFit become a minor league for Pete? No, I think it's two totally different sports I think it I think I honestly think that in and two or three years from now you're gonna look at CrossFit like it's weightlifting and NPFL like it's powerlifting you know just somebody who to the untrained eye it may look the same right like how many people do you run if you go to Gold's gym

and you say hey I weightlift they don't know what the hell people do you run if you go to gold gym and you say hey i weight lift they don't know what the hell you're talking about if you say you power up they don't they don't know what you're talking about but if you're in the sport and you're really paying attention the the differences are extremely you know well obvious yeah uh but the other thing i want i'm interested in seeing is and you bring up minor league is i wonder if there's going to get run like baseball where you where the teams are going to end up having like you know the the minor league teams to pull athletes from and stuff like that or a developmental that's what they call the there have to be a lot of money in it at that point but is that a possibility and is that a different league

or is that run by the is it run like baseball where it's like kind of under the same organization or is it some other sports where it's all very fragmented? It'd be very interesting if you had a situations where team owners then had, they opened up, you know, Philadelphia founders box where it was a developmental, like a training center for the team. And it's also served as a, like a feeder system. So you can come in, you can train in a, in a fundamentals type way, but you're a good crossword.

Basically you see if you can enter. Whoever can successfully join the team and keep pace becomes a potential prospect. Maybe they start competing at local events as a minor league representative. That's a great idea. It could be a great feeder way. We should talk to some of these owners and give them this idea. That sounds cool. I think any young, enterprising,

young professional fitness league owner is going to look to, you're going to have to look to the history of baseball and football in this country to see how, you know, what worked, what didn't, and what you can improve upon. In the same way we take existing

strength and conditioning methods and innovate them with the little viral spark that is CrossFit, I think you have that opportunity to look at the way farm systems and everything have evolved and these big time sports

have been around for fucking 100 years and now throw the same kind of spark and see how you can reinvent it to be a more nimble. I would say, the way farm systems and everything have evolved and these big time sports have been around for fucking 100 years. And now throw the same kind of spark and see how you can reinvent it to be a more nimble. I would say don't look at baseball, look at basketball. Those guys are doing it right. On the money side.

The new NBA minor league system and all that. Yeah, I don't know how they do that. But like as far as organizations that know how to make money, NBA. You know the most successful sports league right now I hear is the NHL actually. It's crushing everybody. You're forgetting NASCAR.

Well exclude all the I'm not going to make any NASCAR jokes probably a lot of people like it. I don't particularly like it. It's also a lot different than an arena sport.

I mean of all the arena sports including maybe NFL for stadium stuff I think the NHL is the one that's doing the best. Yeah. I think everybody else

is sort of losing viewers so you might want to look there actually. Maybe. The other thing I'm interested in- Fights. Holy fuck, man. In the middle of this competition,

you just pause. You have the two strongest guys and two strongest girls just wrestle over a bone in the middle of a fucking arena. With the short shorts and everything, that's where you- CTP, would you watch that

or would you watch that? Just like two states of Tovar in the middle of fighting. He didn't even move. Fighting over a rope. Oh, geez. That's intermission. All the other thing that's your hawk that's why hawk is good everybody's waiting to see the fight they could do like the russian team fights it's like four on four fights yeah you see that that's crazy yeah well there's like different elevated platforms when you watch

that you get scared it's parkour right yeah pretty much yeah it's parkour that's right they're like they'll run up a ramp and start fighting and be wrestling and fall over like an eight foot drop 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00, lot of uh crossfit leagues uh you have um you know things like we went to wadapalooza you have the garage games you have oc throwdown you have all these these competitions and what do they model after they model after the crossfit games they're trying to be like the crossfit games because that's what people accept don't know any different right now so the npfl is like this is like the first time someone stepped out of the box and they didn't just step out of the box they stepped out of the box big and uh you know and maybe somebody was doing something like this before but on a small scale but this is the first time it's like came up on our radar and go oh

these guys are treating this thing way differently it's so outside of the box of the crossfit games i think everyone kind of got stuck in that mentality that this is how crossfit competitions are run it's a weekend event or all day. It's three events spread out by hours and so on and so forth. And this is a punchy two-hour thing, 11 events in two hours. And it's team versus team. I'd be willing to say I'd like to see CrossFit gyms start having weekend events maybe once a quarter.

Our gym goes to a gym in nashville or you know we put together like a small team or something like that and we do it just like they do it in pfl games like pickup games just like people pick up on basketball this is very interesting and novel because uh i'm not saying i'm not saying i hate weekend events but weekend events are very taxing they're time consuming that cost a lot of money uh to put on and for the people who are attending and uh competing but now you have this this kind of changes the standards the expectations and people are now going oh i can be there for two hours and have a really good time if people probably start competing ideas now if i'm competing volunteering putting it on whatever any aspect of it makes it a lot more digestible

yeah if crossfit if crossfit or this type of crossfit like thing like the mpfl is ever going to turn into like a real mainstream type thing amongst amongst younger kids putting something like this into schools where each school competes against each other in a league just like just like baseball football basketball or soccer. Boom! You just blew my mind. That'd be the way for this type of sport to take over. It makes it lower. It makes it very, the entry level to it is very reduced. It's more fun.

It's more punchy. We should definitely get this in schools. You know what I was thinking was tripping me out about this. This is already like... Tony Budding's like, yes. You know how you had... He's probably already had this conversation before. He's like, I'm glad someone else is's probably already had this conversation for years and years i was very happy with my big ultra awesome thousand cd collection and then one day ipods came i go you know what this other thing looks stupid as shit i gotta join this new wave and

hardly before i got my head around how awesome and revolutionary ipods were it became stupid the next thing quickly came, like the acceleration of technology is coming quicker and quicker and quicker because this is a curvilinear path. Could we be in the midst of that with personal fitness and well-being? You know, healthcare is collapsing.

Everything's rapidly changing. These revolutions and just how we're doing fitness now, here's another one where it could change again into some more viral, more condensed, more this thing that can now spread to more people. Yeah. And as it spreads more and more, people get more ideas about how it could change again into some more viral, more condensed, this thing that can now spread to more people. And as it spreads more and more,

people get more ideas about how it could be further refined. It could emerge as some radically different thing again in two or three years. So I want to ask you, Doug. All right. I'm ready. You've got an athlete. They've been doing CrossFit. They've been preparing for the Open,

but now they want to do the NPFL Combine at the end of April. How do they prepare between now and then? What do you think? After the Open's open and they only have until April. How do they prepare between now and then? What do you think? After the Open's open and they only have until April? Yeah, they've got two. They got two more weeks to train? Go on vacation, man. Take a break.

Oh, wait. They got one month. The hay is in the barn. Yeah, there's not much going on. Terrible question. Yeah, they don't have much going on. But like you said, it's a predominantly strength sport, or at least the testing is predominantly strength-based. Yeah, they don't have much going on, but like you said, it's a predominantly strength sport, or at least the testing is predominantly strength-based.

Yeah, the combine. We're not talking about preparing for the NPFL. We're talking about preparing for the combine. Yeah, so being a predominantly strength-based combine, you're going to want to perfect your weightlifting for sure. So a lot of heavy movements on weightlifting. You're not doing a lot of volume necessarily, keeping it to doubles and singles because you're going to be testing on singles. Yeah. So same thing with squats. You could take a more traditional weightlifter like like you're training for the sport of

weightlifting because the whole sport of weightlifting is training for snatch, clean and jerk one RMS. So weightlifters do a lot of one RMS snatching. They do a lot of heavy doubles and singles on clean jerks, heavy doubles and singles on front squats there's no back squat on there right none there's snatch clean and jerk clean jerk and front squat i was going through the list the other day to program like to prep for it and i was like i was like oh there's no back it's like i was looking for the back squat thing i missed it and it was gone dude i want to see kendrick ferris in this league people talk about him doing this is what he should do. What better sub for the strength event do you want than Kendrick pound for pound?

All right, so weightlifting, what about for the gymnastics stuff? I still think you've got to train heavy on the gymnastics stuff. I think your one rep max at something like a weighted pull-up probably has a whole lot to do with how many how many max reps reps rep pull-ups you can do in a row if you can do a weighted pull-up with you know 150 pounds you probably can do 50 pull-ups in a row or 50 kipping pull-ups in a row or 70 pull kipping pull pull-ups in a row i don't know many guys that can do 50 kipping pull-ups in a row that also can't do a weighted pull-up with like so it seems like 20 pounds at least yeah all the guys i know row that also can't do a weighted pull-up with like so it seems like 20 pounds at least yeah all the guys i know that can that can easily do like 100 pounds on a weighted

pull-up you go here's here try a muscle-up they're like uh okay and they just do it like like it's like it's nothing they can do it on the first try because they're shitty strong it seems like you gotta take like a approach i would take for powerlifting or you'd use more movements but like what what do you do in powerlifting where you train all the qualities and all the basic movements that are powerlifting movements? So you're doing a speed, quick, sub-max, but still very forceful, light back squat.

You're going to take heavy attempts, and then you're going to do movements that are kind of like the squat, but you do some for reps too, like maybe occasionally do the fives. For weightlifting, it wouldn't be enough to do weightlifting, weightlifting, weightlifting, and then go and then do some reps at pull-ups because you're missing the key component like doug's talking like everything has to be loaded in a balanced way to get that kind of effect so yeah there has to be heavy ass ring work heavy ass pull-ups heavy you can't just do the reps alone on some things and combine it with just a

pure weightlifting approach so it will be quite different you know that's one thing yeah I mean one thing I've been approaching some of the gymnastic stuff especially in the last years is once a week kind of doing that

weighted version that heavy weight and then later in the week practicing the the unweighted skill for reps I think that's that's basically

a conjugate approach where if you're in a position if you're in a position to try to do this if you're in a position to make a real move to try to do this if you're in a position to make a real move to try to do this kind of combine then you are somebody who's advanced this probably isn't

something that you can entertain unless you've done years of progressive basic strength work and you have got a lot of good exposure and you already have skills for muscle ups and and keeping pull-ups and stuff you probably can't entertain us unless you're advanced and if you are advanced in a highly variable i say quotation marks conjugate or very varied program within the week is probably gonna be what's helping you yeah it's like yeah quick ass pull-ups very heavy pull-ups and pull-ups or reps probably trained concurrently i guess in some way i also think on the strength endurance side of things to get through a weekend like that or a single day where you're doing what is there nine, nine one-rep maxes on there? And then something like nine more intervals?

It's 18 total movements. Yeah, and the first nine are weightlifting and 1RMs, and the second half is. And you can mix those up as much as you want. Yeah, anyone that's done a powerlifting meet, for example, knows that at the end of the day, even though you're only taking nine attempts, you're pretty wore out.

I guess you would know that better than anybody. Yeah, I'm going to let you finish that point. I'll follow up with some tips I think people could keep in mind. Traditionally, lifting heavy and being in that kind of... I think I lied. I'm going to let you finish that up. Anyway, what I was saying, and then he just kept talking. I agree. Go ahead.

It is intense. Strength endurance wise, you're going to have to have a lot of strength endurance in order to get through an entire day like that and towards the end of that day, to have a lot of strength endurance in order to get through an entire day like that. And and towards the end of that day, still have some some oomph left and needed to actually get a good score on on, you know, the last five or 10 intervals of the day. So I think doing every minute on the minute or alternating every minute on the minute, heavy doubles, maybe triples is going to go a long way to getting you not just to have your one rep max go up, but to be able to operate with 90% of your one rep max for multiple reps throughout your training is going to help towards the end of the training day during the combine. You're going to have to train in some style that allows you, again, the volume may have to come down a bit,

but you're going to have to train with heavier weights more often to cultivate the skill and the mindset for being able to do this kind of heavy lifting frequently all the time and not be beat down by it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many weightlifting meets I've done max snatch and max clean and jerk. The reason why powerlifting is really poor. Powerlifting cultivates, to train heavy all the time

doesn't necessarily come along with the idea that you get so intense and amped up for. Like in powerlifting, there's that max effort idea where people get really fired up to take the max effort but i don't like that at all anymore what i like is a reasonable approach a reasonable i'll use this again bulgarian style quotation marks you train heavy often but i like the idea of taking frequent heavy attempts of getting better and better at these type of combine movements but trying to do it and with a very professional attitude where

you're treating this as something you have to develop and cultivate this skill, not something where you're looking to crush each one of these things every time you train it. You've got to get really good at lifting heavy weights. Like Doug's saying, pretty heavy, pretty frequently, but with a mindset that's a little bit controlled, a little bit more business-like to get good at handling that kind of heavy load more frequently. Yeah, I can see people. If you start trying to train for this, you can get beat down really quick, even if you are highly- Yeah, I can see people kind of heavy load more frequently yeah i can see people if you start trying to train for this you can get beat down really quick even if you are highly yeah i can

see people like kind of getting in their head i gotta be have a really strong deadlift or a really strong snatch overhead squat but what they need to have is the ability to one rep max out on nine different movements that takes and then max reps out on another that's that's a whole nother animal because you can train to get really strong at any of that stuff and maybe all of that stuff at the same time but can you train to get strong at all that stuff and perform it in a single afternoon it's like that's that's gonna be a different story it's a novel problem yep all right let's wrap this bad boy up when you're programming for regionals or something like that you got to prepare the athletes to be able to go really hard multiple times throughout the day. And this is similar

in that way, but it's a little bit of a different animal at the same time because it's just different because of all the water impacts. It's heavier. It's faster paced. It's only two hours. No, it's eight hours. No, I mean for the event itself. Oh, for the event, not the combine. First the event that is

a typical CrossFit all day affair. No, seriously, I'm hungry. Let's get this event, not the combine. First the event that is a typical CrossFit all-day affair. No, seriously, I'm hungry. Let's get this done. So I did go back and look. They are looking for sponsors right now, for both national sponsors as well as local sponsors. So if you want to help out and you know someone that might be good to sponsor the NPFL,

you can email info at profitnessleague.com and help these guys out because I'm sure they need it trying to grow this new league. Not just helping them out, but helping yourself out because I think this is going to go really well. And if you sponsor it, people are going to return that deed by frequenting your business. Kindness returns kindness. And again, I don't know if they need volunteers or judges, but I'm going to guess that they do. So if you're a good judge or you know some

good judges uh throw them throw them tony's way because he probably needs them if you're a local anything if you're a local athletic trainer strength coach i don't know facilities manager anything you should maybe inquire to see how you can support and help this thing because it's going to create a lot of opportunities for a lot of people yeah i've had a couple people asking hey are you interested in uh because i'm talking about i'm kind of excited about like they're like are you are you interested in having a team i'm like me not like is barbell stroke guys gonna jump in on this i'm like no uh i don't think so um i don't know if we're interested in this specifically uh i would have figured you'd be all over that with your ego don't what you talk about really i could be a team owner wow

yeah but uh yeah not not that interested i'm uh i i'm really interested in the people who are owning the teams and starting those teams and i think it'll be uh so i guess we could be fairly to be fair and clear we we're not so excited because we have some interest already in this we're just interested in how it's going to unfold and how it's going to affect everybody else it's not like i don't see this as being anything that takes away from what's so great and successful at cross i see as an independent thing that can only help bring more good attention to what crossfit's doing for that reason i think anybody who can get involved and contribute some time and effort resource some training knowledge that can be beneficial to these people as they embark on this you should get involved you should

participate it's cool as shit even if we're not looking to own a team or something like that if if you're out there and you're going to do something with the mpfl and and you're looking for some help and there's a way that you think we could help you're always looking to hear your ideas about how we can help out anywhere in the community so if you do have a good idea uh throw it our way we're interested to hear about it yeah i'd like to hit us up on twitter i'd like to get involved just not sure i want to own a team yeah let's interview all the owners and athletes and do the thing we always do. You heard? You heard.

Let's wrap this brother up. CTP. CTP is starving. He hasn't eaten since breakfast. It's like five o'clock. You need a burrito more than anything. Oh, it's six o'clock. Man, you got to be starving.

Cosmos is coming on. It's an hour. Let's go. Oh, yeah. We got Cosmos tonight, man. This is making me want to draw it out even more. Fuck CTP. You keep holding that camera, you son of a bitch.

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