Barbell Shrugged - 85- Garret Fisher 5th Place 2013 CrossFit Games Athlete Interview

Episode Date: October 16, 2013

Interview w/ NorCal CrossFit's Garret Fisher

This week on Barbell Shrugged, we interview Garrett Fisher, CrossFit Games athlete. Hey, this is Rich Froning. You're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version, go to barbellshrugged.com. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Mike Bledsoe here with Chris Moore and Doug Larson. We travel to NorCal CrossFit up here in San Jose. We're hanging out with Garrett Fisher. Yeah, what's up guys? He plays fifth at the CrossFit Games this past year.

Before we get into too much discussion with Garrett, I just want to remind you guys to go to barbellshrugged.com, sign up for the newsletter. That way we can let you know all the stuff that we're doing, all the stuff that's coming up. So many stuffs. Many stuffs. Many stuffs. Yeah. We stopped talking about what we're doing on here. Just go to the website. Yeah. I don't want to make this a big advertisement. Keep it evergreen. This is when, this is when it's going to turn into a big advertisement. So you are Jason's training partner, Jason Kalipa, is that right? Yes, I am. Yep. Okay, we podcast with him the other day.

Yeah. He's an intense dude. Fun to hang out with though. Definitely fun. Just a good guy all around. Yeah. How'd you end up hooking up with him originally? Been a friend of yours for a long time?

No, no. So I moved down here about two and a half years ago to go to school, San Jose State. And I just walked through the doors and he was coaching a class, kind of got to know him. And I mean, there's a whole story behind how I kind of got where I'm at now. But yeah, that's, so I just walked in the door. Say what, Chris? No, cause you're a pretty young guy.

Yeah. Like you're 22. Is that right? Yep. 22. And you've been doing CrossFit for how long now? For about seven years. Oh shit.

Oh shit. Yeah. It's been a while. Did you start here? Did you start? No, so I started at CrossFit 209th Sport in Stockton, California with a couple guys named Vince Carter

and Gabe Subry. I don't know if you're familiar with Gabe Subry, but he was a three times gamer. So, yeah. Is it your hometown? Yeah. Cool, man. Yep.

And what's your training background before that? Were you always into fitness, lifting weights, kind of your whole childhood? Yeah, yeah, totally. So. And what's your training background before that? Were you always into fitness, lifting weights, kind of your whole childhood? Yeah, yeah, totally. So I played baseball and basketball throughout high school. And then I played two years of junior college baseball. And that was it. And then I started focusing on CrossFit, which kind of went from there.

And you're in school now. Yep. And we're kind of going over a little bit of what you're doing now. So you're in school full-time, doing coaching, and now you're doing some level one stuff on top of that. Yep, yep. So I'm finishing my last year at San Jose State. I'm a coach full-time here at NorCal CrossFit training. I just got done.

I'm still interning for HQ, trying to get on staff there. So traveling, just been busy. Taking a step backwards by coming on the show. Yeah. Not sure it's going to be great for your career, but you'll have a good time. Yeah. You were talking to Jason the other day,

like I was saying, and that dude seems like he is the busiest person that I've ever met in my whole entire life. Like, I mean, you're in college right now. You're doing the level one staff type stuff, trying to get on the team, so to speak yeah I feel like you probably have more time available to train than Jason does like how do you guys match up your schedule I definitely do have a little more time to Jason Jason's lots of times he's we're

warming up he's on the rower pulling one hand he's talking on the phone I think he was telling us a story he was bragging about his balancing act his partitioning of time or he's on the GHG taking a call or like in between a workout literally in between the workout like right when the workout is done he's on his phone making a call real quick and he's coming right back in to come work out again oh we need to get both of y'all on the podcast

we need to hit him there to call Jason out what did Jason say? he was talking about like the work life balance We needed him there to call Jason out. What did Jason say? He was talking about the work-life balance and focus on one thing at a time and try not to do two things at once. Don't get me wrong. Right when that 3-2-1 clock goes, Jason's totally focused on the workout, but he has a lot of things going on. He has family.

He's opening gyms across the world. He definitely bounces the best way he can, but he's jason he's he's all over the place way to backpedal that's good yeah exactly but uh to get back to your question how we kind of get together um we usually have set every day is like 1 30-ish we usually all come here and throw down that's always kind of for sure and then maybe in the morning I hit him up hey I'm about to hit this work if you want to come you could come and we go from there you know training once a day right now it depends yeah it depends walk us through kind of your typical day in a typical week okay just for training for the moment okay yeah I'll take

you on a date with girl number one on Monday. So, like, usually I'll wake up and I coach a couple classes. I'll come here. Maybe I'll hit, like, a quick session, like, super, like, rowing or skier. Nothing too fancy. Just get the blood going, get the heart beating pretty well. And then I kind of just hang out until about 1-ish, and then Jason comes and you throw down and then after that I usually go to school in the in the evenings that's guys wouldn't work for me because 1 30 is like nap time yeah that would not work the afternoon lol and he wouldn't go to class you just

skip class that's right so what's kind of your your goat right now what have you been focusing on games this year what do you focus on for next year yeah so one of the biggest things definitely is to get my gymnastics better. I feel like that was kind of holding me back a little bit. And then also just to get my overall conditioning up. I feel like I really want to get it almost like so it never breaks down. So no matter what's thrown at me, it's always there. I don't know what crazy shit they throw.

Was there a workout at the games where at at the end of it, you were like, Oh shit, that just kind of ate my lunch. Uh, naughty Nancy was that way. I placed pretty well in that workout, but it was definitely a killer workout. Um,

and all the sink goes the last couple of workouts I was toasting. Yeah. That one looked fucking rough. Yeah. That first one, all those, uh, the pistols were horrible.

Absolutely horrible. And I'm sure for you, those workouts are like impossible. Whoa. What happened? All of our audio just turned off. Oh, that thing went out, didn't it? We're still recording our voices, though? I'm sure for you, the workouts

are basically impossible to forget, but for all the people that weren't at the games or didn't get to watch the games, what were those two workouts? You just said Naughty Nancy. Naughty Nancy and the Cinco's. Those are tough for me. Probably actually not. What were the workouts though? What was that?

What were the workouts? Oh, Naughty Nancy was five rounds of 20. What's it, 20? No, yeah, it's 20 overhead squats at 135. And then it was a run. I think it was 600 meters, but it was up a hill and downstairs, so it was a little five rounds of that and then the CINCOs, the first one was five deadlifts

at 405 and then that one and then one and a half pood in your hand and you have to do five pistols in each leg, so 10, three rounds of that, handstand walk, I think 50 feet, then rest two minutes and then next one was five deficit handstand push-ups, five muscle-ups, and overhead walking lunge with 165. Yeah. Did you touch all the deadlifts?

Yeah. Man, I noticed that for a lot of people, that's a pretty tough challenge. I was thinking this for me, a guy who specializes in that kind of thing, you know, specifically. I'm like, man, to be tired and pull that many deadlifts even at my body weight

that's a fucking tough challenge it's actually it reminded me of like a lot of power lifters have like the 405 was it how many how many deadlifts at 405 you can do is that that's like a rep test what's the comment that the rep test is 405 is like 20 or better yeah 405 is like the the common like number that like if a power lifting team is training like all right we're gonna put 405 in the bar and just see how many times you can do it yeah and you guys did it after like a weekend you know it's the last wad how many how many events were there total 13 yeah it was like the event yeah and then you're gonna pull was it 15 yeah 15 reps's basically double the body weight for about everybody, right?

Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, I definitely felt the deadlifts were challenging, but the hardest part of the workout were definitely the pistols by far. I think you get pretty fatigued off the deadlifts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Doing deadlifts and then pistols combined is going to light you up.

I feel like this year, they went below parallel a lot and our legs were just fried. I know mine were. I had nothing left in my legs at all. I feel like that Naughty Nancy workout is basically squats

and running uphill. Yep. That's got to be like the biggest quad pump you've ever had in your whole life. Yeah, my legs were burning pretty bad

on that one. Being a taller guy, that's a rougher workout for you than it is maybe. Rich Froning who's got the shorter lever links.

Yeah, a little bit. Are you calling Rich short? Yeah, sorry Rich. Okay, I guess he is. Short legs, long core. But the shorter lever links. Yeah, a little bit. Are you calling Rich short? Yeah. Sorry, Rich. Okay, I guess he is. Short legs, long torso. The spiky hair makes up for it.

The spiky hair creates the illusion of height. Yeah. So what kind of product are you using in your hair these days? It's the end of a long day. I know you had a level one start early in the day, right? Yeah. You've been traveling. I see nary a stray hair on that head.

Yeah, so everybody kind of asks me that. It's just typical it's just we got two challenge mine's more so than yours we got two challenge hairlines yours is recovered some mine is regressed and we can appreciate a good hairline god damn it that's a good hairline so i won't tell you the exact product kind of keep it a little secret but uh but uh it's just a paste it's just a texture paste is it a pomade or no it's not a pomade It's just a texture paste. Is it pomade? No, it's not a pomade. It's a little like, so pomade's kind of really sticky, and it's kind of greasy. This stuff is, I don't know.

It's more of a wax? I don't know how to explain it. It's kind of in between like a gel and a pomade, like in between that. Is it glue? No, it's not a glue. It's not a glue. Is this one of those things where you're using a product that's not meant for your hair

is that what's happening here that's why you don't want to talk about it I think it could be it could be like a very high quality feminine product or something is that probably what it is

like a nice female hair care product is that what's you want to be honest so I go so I go to I go to so I get my haircut

from the same person for the past two years and her name's her name's Lika and it's at a it's at a ladies yeah well dude no

you gotta go for where the quality is yeah the quality's definitely there if fucking Fantastic Sam's can't pull the job off Fantastic Sam's is that a real place

it is it is a real place I don't know if they have them out here but it's your basic go to like barber deal yeah in the south that's where like your mom takes you when she doesn't want to pay

for an expensive haircut for the five year oldold if you got a hairline that you appreciate they're gonna they're gonna butcher that shit unskilled hands you gotta go to qualified personnel yeah yeah how was the how was flipping the pig oh that pig was uh disgusting um i don't know if you guys watched it but and the burning run i was first coming off the 2.1 mile run that's right i got to that pig they didn't let us warm up with it nothing so we had no clue i was gonna feel you didn't even touch it yeah and it was shit yes and um so this won't be very heavy so yeah no one got to touch it nobody got to touch it nobody got to play with it nothing ever during the um they introduced when they introduced the pig jason picked it up for a half second at the hotel and dade casho yelled at him

um yeah anyway so they didn't let any of us warm up with it. And I was the first one to the pig. I didn't know how heavy it was. It was kind of wet too. I wish I wore gloves on it, but I picked it up. I picked it up like halfway. And if you look at my face, I'm like, Oh my God, the wave of doubts. I have to go back and watch that video now. This is really, really heavy. I stepped back and I was like, all right. What that reminds me of is, was it two years ago when the dog sled was out in that final event? I remember girl event specifically so they they it looked like there had to be no warm-up you do movement one two three sunday as well yeah so everybody's like yeah i'm feeling really good about this and they get all excited they grab those handles and

nothing not a fucking thing yeah and that wave of terror washes over the face like oh fuck i thought maybe I could win. Yeah. And now this shit's getting real. Yeah. Real quick. Yeah. It got real right after that.

And I remember I was only 50 yards down the field and I still had halfway to go. I looked up and I was like, oh my God, I don't know if I can get there. And I look over to my side. Dan Bailey, forgive me for this one. But I look over to my side, I see Dan Bailey just slobber coming out of his mouth. And I'm like, all right, it hurts just as bad for him as me, too. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that's a comforting thing. You look over, I know that guy's fit as shit, and he's not having a good time. Yeah, exactly. I'm doing just fine. Yeah, exactly. Calm the nerves. I guess what's really weird about that thing is I've got a lot of tire flipping experience. I used to do that all the way back in the day.

Yeah. Like in 1998 when I was playing college ball, that first year, I did it for my conditioning. Yeah. Take a 700-pound tire, flip it 100 yards. Yeah. I figured if I ball that first year, I did it for my conditioning. Take a 700 pound tire, flip it 100 yards. I figured if I could do that shit, I could do okay at everything else. But that thing is not even like a tire really. It's great and beautifully scalable. It's a fucking great idea.

But the mechanics of that thing are not like grabbing a rubber tire. Where you kick and where you flip and how you time it, it must be super duper novel. No real handles on it. I want to try that thing. Yeah, no real handles and I was kind of grabbing from the side, which might have been a mistake, but I didn't really know at the time and my hands just

got all cut up from it. Like paper cuts. On the ridge on the side. Yeah, they were like paper cuts the whole entire week. The metal. I don't know whatever pig it had, but for sure it had blood all over it. So you said bloody pig. You're saying you wish you wore gloves, but when you wear gloves, what kind do you wear?

I just wear the Reebok CrossFit ones they gave us. Yeah, just the basic Reebok ones. Oh, okay. I didn't know they gave you Reebok CrossFit ones. Are you a dumb asshole? Nothing special. Okay, so you can wear the gloves on that event? Yeah, so they allow any the inning gloves uh any gloves that

didn't have any like special like like sticky stuff like can you wear like because you can't maybe like rod receiver gloves no you can't yeah so you can't wear those but you can wear like the normal baseball gloves um as long as they have nothing sticky on them and uh yeah in my power days boy me and that tacky i would sneak the tacky on any surface where i could get it because you know on the legs to make the knee wrap stick tighter, on the hands to make the deadlift stick a little more. It's the way to go. Yeah.

It's not, cheating is a subtle art form, the power lifting. Like, it's more so than any other sport. It's like, if I can sneak an extra pair of wraps somewhere, if I can tighten shit down, if I can, you know, cheat, cut the depth off, do anything to get an edge. Tacky this, tacky that. I'd come up from a meet sticky from head to toe is there anything wow is there anything is there anything going on like that the games where like some guys are like trying to like you know do little tweaks

to no not at all not at all but uh one thing i But one thing I've learned from Jason is that like, so they announced the bar muscle up swim workout like two days before it was coming out, I think. And that night, Jason and I, it was like nine o'clock at night. Everybody was going to bed. Jason and I, if you look, we were at the hotel, we were in the pool, we were swimming and they had a little warmup area. We were swimming, hopping out and kind of like playing around, like to see like what would work with like the bar muscle ups.

We actually swam with gloves, see if the gloves would affect the bar muscle ups, what exactly was going on with that. But cheating, nobody's cheating. Yeah, I imagine that's the hardest part about doing something that's completely new and novel, like flipping the pig. You just don't know where to grab,

and you don't know if wearing gloves is a good idea or not like those little things yeah i can can cost you the whole the whole event yeah yeah totally um yeah that's part of crossfit is just thinking on the fly learning well fuck man that's what happened to rich right like i can climb that rope the famous example the first year rich fronting yeah well it turns out i couldn't just figure it out and now some can climb a rope yep yeah that's what you mean look you have to go these events are so such a mixed bag and so variable and so unpredictable like this is even an extreme version of like what strawman used to do he just didn't know what would come up in these events so at some point you dive in you take a shot your best guess you come out winning great you do okay we're fine if you

up you gotta let go yeah i mean you gotta just get over that next great you do okay we're fine if you up you gotta let go yeah i mean you gotta just get over that next time you do it you'll know yeah you spend the next year training it so you said you competed uh last year you didn't get the games how'd you do it i got seventh regionals okay yeah seventh my first year so first year competing overall like did you do you didn't do the opening years before anything no so i was playing baseball i was playing sports i wasn't serious about CrossFit at all. I just did it. Just like, I would probably go to the gym.

Freak athlete. Yeah, I would probably go to the gym. So like usually in the off season, I would go for like two months, get back in shape kind of. And then season would start and I'm never, I wouldn't go back for three, four months. And then I was very, very inconsistent. At what point did you like decide I'm going to start training for the games? It never really, it just kind of happened. So I stopped playing junior college baseball,

and I just kind of enjoyed going to the gym, working out, and competing just kind of happened. Yeah, I didn't really have a plan like, oh, I want to go to the CrossFit Games. Did you do the open and were surprised by your performance and go, oh, okay, I can really pursue this? Or was there a period of time leading up to like the first open you did where you were like, all right, I'm going to really start? Just like I said, I mean, I just worked out.

I had fun, and the open kind of happened, and I just went for it. And I did pretty well, and I just kept rolling the ball. Cool. Yeah. It was a great lesson. Look, opportunity presents itself. You don't have a ton of experience with it and you don't take it too seriously. You obviously had a tremendous athletic base. You weren't too worried about like coming from a background of high caliber sport,

I guess like baseball, I guess the idea of going into an event, even if it's a large scale competition of fitness, I guess you were, let's say well seasoned to that scenario. Like you weren't going to get nervous about that when you get nervous about you know yeah what position you play in baseball I played right field on first base yes if you can if you stare down a pop fly and catch that with everybody looking at you what's the big deal with yeah I work out in the wide that's good at me people take these competitions like for power their weightlifting strongman gets no CrossFit you hear so many horror stories of people going you know man my first

competition what do i do i gotta make sure everything's perfect no you don't you just fucking go have a good time yeah if you do really well that's a good good strong plus yeah don't do really well fuck it what's the big deal it's your first time take it easy yeah so i just i mean since day one i always just go in and have fun and whatever happens happens i just perform to the best of my abilities and uh that's one that's the approach i took at the games. And then, uh. You seemed to work out just fine, huh? Yeah, and I just, I just literally just went in there

and went and had fun and it all worked out. Sounds like you and Jason have like similar approaches as far as like just having like a good time, not forcing it, you know? Yeah, yep, yep. It's not like setting high expectations. Yeah, totally, we just go in there and have a good time and work hard.

Do you have low expectations for yourself? No. It'll be easy. Life will be good. I have goals and I have expectations but I mean at the end of the day I mean whatever like you just gotta have fun. People take this stuff too serious I feel like sometimes and it becomes not fun anymore.

Mike let him be young. He's 22. There's a whole fucking world ahead of him. Don't push any expectations on him. I guess I have a good time. I'll try not to. Let's take a break real quick. When we come back, we'll talk about Garrett's secret schedule of supplements. I like how you make that stuff up every time now. Hey, guys.

Welcome to the break. Mike Bledsoe here. Just a reminder to go over to barbellshrug.com. There's a video version of this podcast, which you probably picked up on, and you can go and view that. And a lot of times we make references or we're showing a movement or something like that. And if you're watching the video, you can see what's going on there. What's the other thing, CTP?

What am I going to tell those folks? Technique WOD. Oh, yeah. If you're watching the video version, there's a Technique WOD. You'll learn something new about how to do a snatch or a clean and jerk or a muscle-up or something like that. We'll usually put that in the middle of the show, so make sure to check that out. Thanks for joining us and enjoy the rest of the show. And we're back with Garrett Fisher.

NorCal CrossFit. That's right. In the bowels of NorCal CrossFit. Yeah, so last weekend or last week, Progenix took just about every CrossFit athlete they sponsor, I think. Yep. Almost all of them. It was a majority of them. Yeah.

You guys all went to Boston. Yeah. To Harvard for some research. Can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, totally. They invited us, all their athletes, to Boston, to Harvard, to find out exactly why, pretty much why exactly their supplements are the best supplements out there. Yeah. Can you share what tests were done? They won't give away any secrets?

Yeah. Is it something that's secretive? No. I mean, they took a blood test with us, but they really informed us of all the science behind it. They actually had a couple scientists come and tell us that they've been in the supplement business for, I don't know, 10 plus years, and they've never seen anything as good as progenics. You were a subject in a study, or you were just there learning about it, or what was happening for you? We were a subject in a study, and we learned about it, yeah.

Okay, so what did you guys have to do as subjects in the study? Honestly, we just took a blood test and worked out. Okay. So you worked out and then took some supplements and then they took blood no. So they took our, they took our blood and they're going to, and there's an analysis, like just pretty much

like give us a full on blood work. Like what, um, I mean just what is-on blood work like what I mean just what this is a full blood work and I mean yeah I mean that was that's pretty much a deal like we need like strap up to like no machines and like have like that have like a Soviet rocky no no no not at all it was just a blood test so like pre post thing where you took blood and then worked out and then took blood and then they compared the two different profiles? Honestly, so they took the blood test and we haven't got nothing back because it just happened a couple of days ago.

So yeah, I'm still finding out the information exactly. Well, it might take a little while to get it back, but they took blood and then you worked out and then they didn't take the blood again. So we've worked out all before and then we took blood and then we went all back home. So let's make a descriptive thing and just kind of characterize what makes them, I guess it could compare your, your baseline values to what they have in a lab for controls basically. Yeah. Yep.

Yep. See what's what spikes or you know, whatever the fuck. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to find out from somebody who was really paying attention. No, I'm just kidding. No, I was paying attention. No, I was paying attention.

Um, I guess if you're, if you're not, what did you go to school for? Business. Okay. Yeah. Because we all went to school and had a lot of research behind it. So when we hear, oh, you went into the, we want to hear all the details, but you don't even know what details we want to know, probably. No, honestly, this is honestly what happened.

We got there Tuesday night. We got there. We all worked out. Wednesday, we all kind of got together, worked out again, went to dinner, just kind of hung out. And that night at dinner, they brought those scientists in. They informed us like all like what exactly every supplement they have, like force, flow, like what every single one, what exactly it does to us and why it's the best. It's a little educational.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A lot, a lot of educational stuff. And then Thursday, um, we woke up, we had a fast and then take a blood test. They did all their things and, and then we were free to go.

That was, that was it. Yeah. You've been taking the flow. I take the flow. The same approach. Have you done the flow? I,

I, I take the flow. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I've only tried a couple of times, but,

but I like it it's something new and novel that I've never taken before yep people say it tastes a little fishy but I kind of like

the flavor it's kind of good I didn't feel like it tasted that fishy when you pour it in it smells fishy but once you mix it yeah exactly

so you kind of open it up I'm going to be honest it kind of smells a little fishy but once you put some water in there it tastes actually pretty good and it's not really fishy at all if you put it in warm water, it tastes actually pretty good. Yeah, it's not really fishy at all.

If you put it in warm water, it activates all the fishy molecules. I mean, you're not going to eat warm salmon, so why would you drink warm salmon water? Yeah. How would you eat warm salmon? What are you talking about? It's usually cooked. Do you eat cold cooked salmon, you weirdo? Oh, I'm thinking about sushi, I guess.

Oh, like, know salmon living a nice little cedar plank thing with uh you know a little little seasoning and whatever i don't like cooks fish anyway no you're a weirdo and you won't read books in landscape mode no i i will only read this ass he fussed at me because i i gotta I put a book out that he wanted landscape perfectly this way and this way. I'm like, come on, man. We're now on reserve battery power on your laptop. That would be a problem. I think Doug's going to fix our problem here.

So you're going to ask him about his particular approach to supplementation? Oh, yeah. So what's your supplement schedule, your secret supplement schedule? I usually wake up, and most of the time I don't like cooking breakfast, so I'll have a Perfect Foods bar. Have you ever had one of those? No, man. A Perfect Foods bar.

That's the second time I've heard that this weekend. They're the most amazing bars ever. If you haven't had one, go to Whole Foods and buy a whole box. You'll eat them like that. I'll be buying some tomorrow. I usually wake up, have a Perg Foods bar, and have some more muscle because that's what I like doing. A little extra protein kick? Yeah, a little extra.

Let's get some extra protein in there. And then usually I'll eat again, and then I'll work out if I work out just once. And then after, I have some recovery. And then usually I'm coaching or going to school, and they're kind of like five-ish, like kind of that where you don't want to have a full meal before dinner. I usually have some flow. And then before I go to bed, I usually have cocoon. So I use pretty much the whole supplement line.

I didn't hear much food other than – Well, I asked for supplements, not food. So you have to forgive him. That's really my fault and then your fault for that assumption. Well, I asked for supplements, not food. Oh, yeah. So you have to forgive him. That's really my fault. And then your fault for that assumption. Well, I'm an asshole. So, yeah. So, I mean, so, J.

I don't really like eating a lot throughout the day. I like just having usually like one kind of biggish meal in the morning, like breakfast usually. And then throughout the day, I usually just kind of live off of bars and shakes. And then at nighttime, I go to town. So is that your secret for six-pack abs? No, I don't think so. No. A pizza, a large pizza.

Yeah, he said go to town. I saw you eat pizza earlier. Yeah. This is a subject due to my heart. So at the end of the week, lots of work done, lots of training done. What is the go-to, what are like the top go-to cheat meals for you, my friend? Check it. Here it is.

Go hard. Go hard. It's a large pizza and a quarter of ice cream from Baskin Robbins. Whoa. That's pretty good. What flavor of ice cream? I like pralines and cream. Keep it classic. Yeah.

That's a little Southern style there. After you do that, do you feel like you have, like you like gliked up and you're ready to have a lot of energy the next day when you train? I usually just pass out from a sugar high and then I wake up and I feel great. Feel amazing after that. It's restorative. I find that when I eat a ton of carbs the night before, like if I've been training, eat a ton of carbs the next day, I feel amazing.

It'll make me pass out. Yeah. But in the next morning. I feel last time, like during the week, I feel after like a long week of training, I feel kind of depleted. Like my body's just craving something bad. And that's when I go for it. That's the mistake people make is they don't respond to that craving.

Your body's telling you, look, calories, any kind of calories, give them to me. Yeah. You got to honor the craving. Cravings and cravings. Hashtag honor craving. Whatever that's. I never really go that far. I usually just go with just pizza or just some ice cream.

I never really do like the whole pizza. You're not alive. You're not living your life, Doug. I got to go overboard just pizza or just some ice cream. I never really do the whole pizza. You're not alive. You're not living your life, Doug. I got to go overboard one of these days and experience it. I've been I've changed it a few times. What I've been doing lately is a pint of coconut ice cream because I can't do the dairy. Yeah. Unless it's goat. Yeah. They don't make

goat milk ice cream, unfortunately. So I do it. Sounds weird. And then I'll go, I'll buy like a few packs of popcorn. So I'll crush like two bags of popcorn and a pint of ice cream. Yeah. And that's kind of like been my go-to lately. Yeah.

Cheese cereal is your thing too, right? A little sugary cereal? Oh yeah. Well, I was doing the, I was doing the fruity pebbles with goat milk. Yeah. That's been, that's been pretty restorative for me. I went with that because it's gluten free. Yeah. It's a gluten free cereal. Healthy. Yeah. That's been pretty restorative for me. I went with that because it's gluten-free. Yeah.

It's a gluten-free cereal. Healthy. Yeah. I mean, I usually go to pizza and ice cream, but I'm down for it. If it's bad, I'm eating it. I don't really have a particular. But I like pizza and ice cream the most.

But whatever's kind of around, I'll go for it. I love cupcakes, too. I can eat. I'm one of those guys. I don't know if you guys have in Tennessee, but we have little cupcake shops. Oh, yeah. Fuck it. Everywhere, man. of around like i'll go for i love cupcakes too i i could eat i literally i'm one of those guys so i don't know if you guys have in tennessee but we have little cupcake shops oh yeah fuck it everywhere so check it out i'm i'm one of those guys that walks in gets a whole dozen to eat the whole dozen in one sitting whoa if you ever come to memphis we have somebody you need to meet she

makes the most amazing pastries and cupcakes and all that. Yeah. Yeah. She also runs like a, she also does paleo food. Yeah. Yeah. But like her first business was like making wedding cakes and like making all these pastries. Her best pastries are actually the coconut flour, like paleo-ish style, like chocolate cake stuff, man. That is way better than anything else I've had from her, really. I agree.

That's the good thing about a paleo diet. Fatty is there. The desserts still get pulled off just fine. So you were saying you want to work on your gymnastics. Yeah. You spend much time on the parallel bars. I want to get a parallel bar or set of parallel bars at our place forever. Legit parallel bars.

Honestly, I don't spend too much time on there. I should probably spend a little more time. But those are just something we had for a while. And we have a man test. It's called a man test on there. Oh, yeah? What's the man test? Chris Moore is going to be doing the man test tonight. In the intro of the show. Check this out. All right. So it's called a man test on there. Oh yeah? What's the man test? You suck man. Chris Moore's gonna be doing the man test tonight.

In the intro of the show. Check this out, all right, so it's called a man test and there's only one person that's ever completed it and it was a woman. Okay, well. Anyway, here's the test. Here's the test, so it's five dips at the end of the parallettes,

walk your way across, five dips, walk your way backwards, four dips, walk your way across, four, three, all the way down to one. I'm not a man, walk your way across, four, three, all the way down the one. And usually it gets to, if you're like, I think my best was ever was like, I was starting my twos and just, yeah, that's the farthest I've ever gone. It doesn't sound like that much, but believe me, it is nasty. How long do you catch up with you? How long do you think you're in the dip position? Like how long are you on the bars if you finish it?

Three minutes? Two or three minutes? Two minutes. Yeah. Long enough. There's only been one person. That was a lady. Yeah?

Yeah. Was it Miranda? I want to try it. I want to try it. Was it Lori Glassy? Is that? Yeah. Lori Glassy from Santa Cruz?

Yeah. She was on one. I'm not familiar with her. Y'all know her? Taking these headphones off. Yeah, our audio keeps cutting in and out. We got a little cut on our new cord. It's all CTV's fault.

We're going to blame him. New cord. Yeah, all CTV's fault. There you go. So I feel like you and Jason are like the lucky guys that only eat twice a day, and you're still like well over 200 pounds, like all muscled up. Like a lot of guys would love to only eat twice a day and be able to be like 210 and like super strong like what do you attribute that to besides sitting genetics yeah I

hold my weight I don't really go I mean if I go to town for like a couple days like during Christmas during the holidays I'll wait like 220 but I usually doesn't matter I I stay at like 205, 210 I don't go anywhere below that so during the holidays you do you bulk up

unintentionally it's the holidays so my mom my mom gets all kinds of tamales I'm half Mexican my mom's full Mexican so we get to tamales

for like a whole week and I eat them breakfast, lunch, dinner every meal until they're all gone a good tamale goes a long way no doubt about it with a fried egg on top man yeah that's right i don't really stress um i mean i try to keep my diet as clean

as possible but it's i i don't eat the greatest i'll be the first one to say and it's hard to eat good too when you're around miranda um around Pat Barber like Jason doesn't have the greatest diet he always like yeah

and Miranda has pizza like three times a week so yeah oh you're calling everybody out I know

dang he's dropping names she's the first one to tell you she has pizza like three times a week oh yeah

yeah the secrets of the level one stuff she's laughing right now it's zone pizza though right it's totally zone pizza gluten free all that The secrets of the level one stuff. She's laughing right now. It's zone pizza though, right?

It's totally zone pizza. Food free, all that. Far from it. I feel like we're tapped out. CTP is giving us the sign. Alright guys, I'm going to wrap this up. I had a great time. Thanks for coming and podcasting with us.

It's an honor to have you on the show. Any sponsors you want to mention? Oh, definitely. Obviously my home gym, NorCal CrossFit. I love them. They're my family. Progenics, huge part of my life. Again, Faster Equipment and Reebok.

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