Barbell Shrugged - 86- Miranda Oldroyd CrossFit Athlete Interview

Episode Date: October 16, 2013

Interview w/ Miranda Oldroyd

This week on Barbell Shrugged, we interview Miranda Olroyd, CrossFit OG. Hey, this is Rich Froning. You're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version, go to barbellshrugged.com. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I feel like I totally messed up that intro. We're going to go with it anyway. I'm Mike Blets out here with Chris Moore and Doug Larson. We've traveled to NorCal CrossFit. We're hanging out with Miranda Oldroyd. Before we get started talking to her, make sure to go to barbellshrug.com, sign up for

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Unfollow. That's what'll happen. We'll be cool. That's right. So word on the street is that you eat pizza three times a week. Okay. Are the stories true? It doesn't sound like you're a crossfitter at all.

It's pizza and rap. That's all I know. That's right. Let's not exaggerate. Garrett was exaggerating. I eat pizza for sure. Once a week, sometimes twice. Have I had it three times in a week? Probably. Um, but no, I've been like once or twice a week. So just now you guys got done with the level one, sir. You're starving. You

order called pizzas. How much did you eat? Half pizza? Um, I don't know, like more than I normally do. I actually, I'm not very good at eating. So these guys always talk about how I eat really bad, but I can't eat a lot like in one sitting. But I think today I did pretty good. Maybe like four or five pieces. It's pretty damn good. That's solid. It's a solid performance.

Yeah. Thank you. That's been the story with all the people we've interviewed in California so far. They don't seem to eat very much. Yeah. Jason said he doesn't eat very much. Garrett said he doesn't eat very much. Made them six pack abs, man, for the beach.

Yeah, so similar. Maybe we found some new diet plan. I don't know. Brand it. Brand it right now. I eat breakfast and I eat dinner and in between it's like bars and shakes like Garrett was saying before. I don't know. The NorCal diet? Brand it.

Brand it and sell it. We need a book. We need a website. It obviously works. We need a book. We need a website. Sponsors. You need all these fucking apps. No Instagram filters necessary. No, never. Let's get a little bit of background on you. You've competed at the 2008 games. Original gangster. Yeah. 2008 games. I was there. I'd been CrossFitting for like six months at the time. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. How'd you find CrossFit? There weren't any affiliates in Utah at the time. I'm from Salt Lake City, Utah. I was a personal trainer and we were bored with what we were doing with our clients. So my husband was in the Marine Corps and he was bragging about all the cool stuff

they did when they were in the Marines. And I was like, we should do some of that stuff because we're bored of the cable crossover machine how should you get bored of the cable crossover machine i never got bored there's all those fancy attachments you just strap all kinds of crazy shit on there and do this maybe if i stagger my other foot no so we uh i googled navy seal training and um found crossfit and there wasn't a crossfit affiliate in utah at the time um spieler was doing it out of a rec center in Park City, which was like 30 minutes from us, and Damon had Wasatch CrossFit,

but I don't know that it was open yet. So we just started doing it on our own, honestly, and opened the first affiliate in Salt Lake maybe like six months after that. Very cool. Did you have the classic CrossFit story, like you tried Fran on your first day, and it fucking destroyed you,

and you were like, I have to do this forever. No, so I remember clearly what my first workout was. So my husband and I decided we're going to do this. We're going to do 30 days. We emailed all of our friends, like all of our other

personal trainer friends. We're going to try this program. We'll let you guys know what we think, blah, blah, blah. And we're only going to do this program because otherwise, like how do you know if it works? So we're like,

whatever it is, Monday, we're doing it. Pull up the website four by four hundred meter run which like if you know me and how much I hate running it couldn't have been worse but I we did we did on the treadmill at Gold's gym and no it almost crushed me I did do Fran the very first time at a Gold's gym and threw up in the aerobics room and none of my workouts for the first like year were legit. Like don't you wish you had that whole thing recorded? Oh my gosh.

I have some of it recorded. No way. Yeah, definitely. Can we clip it in the show? Maybe. Yeah. Just go to my YouTube channel. It's got a bunch of stuff from our old affiliate on there.

Okay. Sweet. Yeah. I remember the first year I was doing CrossFit, there was one of the things that got posted on the website, which was like 400Fit there was one of the things that got posted on the website which was like 400 meters lunges we did that too that was one of our

first workouts yeah it was I think that was like the summer of 2007 that got posted I remember I was like no problem went to the track

I was like I'm gonna do exactly 400 meters I'm gonna go to the track make it happen 100 meters in I was like my legs are getting shaky

I was like this is not gonna be cool did you do it did you do the whole thing the whole thing yeah it must have been the same time because we started in 2007 also yeah and that was one of the workouts in our first month and it wrecked us it took us so long i don't even remember how long it's been i did it recently 20 minutes at least it must take me 20 minutes i did it this last year i don't remember how long it took me we won't talk about. Do you have that moment when you start at the starting line, and on the other side of the track,

shit gets really, and you realize it's a long way back there finishing. Oh, yeah. Well, I think the first year of CrossFit was that way. It's like, oh, that workout doesn't look bad. You're so ignorant. You're like, oh, what did I do? You have no idea. You have no idea.

Yeah. So you did the 2008 games. I did. I'm actually really. You have no idea. Yeah. So you did the 2008 games and I'm actually really jealous because I remember in 2008, I was, uh, I was still a student at university of Memphis and the exercise science department. And we were, it was the same weekend as the NSCA like national conference. That sounds boring. Yeah. National strength and conditioning. Like you gotta just listen to scientists. Like talk about the research they've done on like physiology and whatnot.

So a lot of people who haven't been on under the barbell for a long time. They just want to talk about it. Exactly. Yeah. We, we actually spent, uh, we actually had a blast cause it was in Vegas.

We had a great time, but it was one of those things where it was, it was like the same week. And I was like, well, you know, I'll just go to 2009 games. No big deal. You know?

And then 2009 came and they had regionals. And I got my ass handed to me at a 2009 regional. That was your chance. 2008 was your chance. 2008 was my chance. And then, you know, after that, I was just like very, very disappointed. How quickly your dream died. Yeah. Sometimes I wonder

if I would have gone to the 2008 games you probably would have won I probably would have won and then I would have been motivated to train hard you know around the clock

and I would probably you know one of the best crossfitters in the world I mean you would be we'd be interviewing you yeah that's exactly what would have happened

it's very very unfortunate if you stand there with your abs showing with Rich and Matt and Matt. And Matt. I actually am disappointed because-

I swear to God, that picture must be photoshopped. I've seen you guys. You don't look that manly. I guess you're pretty manly. They do look pretty. I think they do. Who's manly?

No, in that picture with the abs. There's like inch deep rivets in there. I mean, it's black and white. It's a little shady, maybe. Deep slices, bro. Jim's colleagues

would be very jealous of this abs photo. Oh, they totally. As they sit in the back, shady, maybe. Deep slices, bro. Jim's colleagues would be very jealous. Oh, they totally. As they sit in the back, go, look at these assholes keeping their pull-ups. Cheaters. All cheaters. You feel like, so back home, people still kind of like turn their head. Because we're from Memphis, Tennessee. I think we hit like 12 gyms in like a 20-mile radius this year.

So not very many. But we still get people kind of turn their heads when they see us do things. We're the weirdos. Are you guys weirdos here? Or is CrossFit kind of normal in Northern California? I think, I mean, Northern California is where CrossFit started, right?

So I think most people know what it is. I definitely get looked at weird a lot of the places that I go. Do you think that has anything to do with CrossFit? I think it has something to do with, uh, shorts. Yeah, maybe. No, no, get attention. Yeah. They definitely, the shorts and the tank top. Um, one of the favorite things of some of the guys on the seminar staff with me is to go to the airport and they require me to wear a tank top at the airport. And they're like, please like, just walk around, just talk on your phone, whatever. Cause they just like watch, watching people look at, at the airport and they're like please like just walk around just talk on your phone whatever because they just like watch watching people look at you know and they're

confused or i don't know what they're looking whatever but uh yeah and as soon as they ask you what they do or a lot of times now people come up to me and they say hey do you do crossfit so they assume that i do it based on how i look which is cool i like that it's cool yeah yeah i think if you see a certain physique which is a very nice physique and you see a neon, there's lots of neon, lots of short things and you go, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Crossfitters.

Yeah. I definitely look at people's shoes and I look at their hands and their forearms and you can tell pretty quickly. Yeah. So this is going to post some probably weeks from now. Oh boy. Unfortunately not, not sooner. But, uh, you guys just released

a rap video today. It just dropped. That's the terminology you use. Rap albums drop and singles drop. Yeah, my single just dropped tonight. Yeah. It's been,

we recorded it a long time ago and it's been really hard. I've had it on my computer this whole time and only a handful of people have seen it. You recorded the game, so it's been two months. I've had it on my computer this whole time, and only a handful of people have seen it. You recorded the game, so it's been two months. I wouldn't say that's too...

A really long time. That's probably a long time for you to wait. We were planning on playing it at the games, but it was too stressful and blah, blah, blah. So they were like, we've got to wait a couple months before it comes out on ESPN, then we'll show it. And we've just been sitting on it waiting to show our friends. Is that going to be on ESPN, you think?

No, not our music video, but just to hype it up again for people to get excited. Okay, so I have this question now. Is CrossFit just a stepping stone for you to your hip-hop career? And if so, what's your MC title? I do have a rap name. It was given to me recently

by some of the crew from the Progenix team, and it's Nine Lives. Nine Lives, huh? How many do you have left after the car accident? I think I might only have like six. Oh, snap. No, but I said, yeah, it was given to me

after the car accident and when people started fighting now that I like to rap. I like that. Yeah. Car accident, that's an age to me. What's the story there?

You didn't know that I was in a car accident? You didn't know she broke her neck, dude? No. You don't follow her that closely? Son of a bitch.

Honestly, why else would you even want to talk to me? Miranda, I knew. I studied it, okay? These guys aren't like me. Doug, you don't know either. Doug hasn't said anything this whole time. I've been quiet over here. Doug's literally been standing here saying nothing.

This is the first time Chris Moore's come in more prepared for an interview than me. Usually I wing it, but I know she's got mad MC skills, which I can appreciate, because I've been known to, I'm not going to do it on camera, CTP, but I like a little karaoke rap. I'll pull up a little ice cube or something and get after it.

Who doesn't? I mean. If you don't, you're an asshole. I'll sing a lot. I like to sing more than rap. So tell me about this car accident. In two weeks before the 2012 games, I was in a car accident and i broke my hand

uh was taken to the hospital it was pretty bad car accident the guy that hit me was going 40 miles an hour and so i was taking an ambulance to the hospital i was at a level one seminar actually was at lunch offered to go get coffee for all the other trainers and what happened i know i know of course, so the coffee never came back. I never came back and, um, went to the hospital was super messed up. Like couldn't move on my own. Couldn't sit up, lay down just in a ton of pain. And, um, I can give you, you want the long version or the short version? All right. How long is the long version is it an hour and a half or is it like no usually i have a tendency to like glaze over some important parts so in a lot of pain that

my hand was broken too i had fractured like a boxer's fracture uh and i said i think my hand's broken and my neck hurts a lot and they were like okay this doctor was an idiot i'm not gonna name any names but anyways he looks at my hand and he was like oh yeah i think you just popped a blood vessel and i'm like pretty sure it's broken because i had broken the key off in the ignition um when they came and told me to turn the car off i couldn't because it was broken off so i'm like pretty sure my hand's broken and i'm like my neck really hurts. And he's like, okay, well,

we'll go x-ray your hand. Never x-rayed my neck. What? Wow. That's insane. My experience with the ER is they just scan everything. This is already sounding

like some lawsuit shit. I would not be happy. If I was your husband, I'd be like, these motherfuckers are going down. That would not be cool by me. So, I mean,

I came in and the neck brace, the guys in the ambulance did a good job, but they don't work for the hospital. They just drop you off. Right? So, never x, I came in in the neck brace. The guys in the ambulance did a good job, but they don't work for the hospital. They just drop you off, right? So, never x-rayed my neck. Left there, and I'm psychotic, and I'm a cross-fitter.

They told me I had whiplash. So, I'm like, ah, whatever, whiplash. Like, I can work out and do things. I literally, I couldn't brush my teeth. It hurts so bad. I had to sleep sitting up for like two weeks, but I was so stubborn, and I wanted to work at the game, so I downplayed it to everyone. I was like, no, no, no. I'm totally fine.

I'm totally fine. So I worked at the games and interviewed the athletes and stuff. Full broken neck the whole time. Whoa. Holy shit. Right before we left to go to the games, I went to the doctor, my hand doctor, to get a hard cast put on my hand. And the hand doctor was like, did they x-ray your neck? Because he could tell I was moving really bad.

And I was like, oh no, they told me I had whiplash. And he's like, that's pretty weird. Like, I'm going to x-ray your neck. This guy was an orthopedic surgeon. So he x-rayed my neck. Didn't hear the results. Left to go to games. He's calling me off the hook.

Calling, calling. I'm not going to answer my phone if I don't know who you are during the middle of the games. Like, I'm busy, right? Yeah. This is stressing me out. I'm not even in the neck. We get back and I'm not going to answer my phone if I don't know who you are during the middle of the games. I'm busy, right? This is stressing me out. I'm not even your neck. We get back and I'm literally here

with Garrett and Jason and I'm like, what can I do? I still couldn't bend over the waist because my neck hurts so bad. I'm like, how can I do something heavy without bending over? This whiplash is really lingering. Your body is screaming right now. All the warning signs. Stop what you're doing.

Jesus. This whiplash is really lingering on body is screaming right now all the warning signs stop what you're doing jesus this whiplash is really lingering on you know so i was about to load up the yolk and i know just put it on there and i got a phone call actually from my husband and he was like answer your freaking phone like the doctor's office has been calling you off the hook um and so i'm like oh whatever like i was being such a smart ass to my husband. I'm like, Oh, whatever. Like, am I dead? Is this heaven? He's like, this is not funny.

Like they've called me like five times. And so I'm like, all right. So I call this guy back. He's like, you need to go to the emergency room right now. Your neck is broken in two places. Literally. If you trip and fall, if you sneeze, if you get rear-ended, you will be paralyzed from neck down.

Do you know what level the pressure is? That was a good scare tactic he used on you. So yeah, my C2 vertebrae was like, so normally it's a ring like this, right? And it was like that. And just chilling for two weeks. You lucked out. I know. Well, they told me that if, A, if I wasn't so strong

that the break would have paralyzed me immediately. if, A, if I wasn't so strong, that the break would have paralyzed me immediately. And then B, if I wasn't so strong and had so much trap meat, I guess, and neck muscle, that I definitely would have become paralyzed at some point during two weeks. I mean, I don't know how many people I hugged at the CrossFit games that year and just, like, just so much stuff. And they're all taller and their arms are going to ride around your neck. Oh my gosh.

And they're all, of course, they were all like hammered and excited and they hurt so bad every time. How bad would you feel if you were that guy that came around and squeezed your neck and you just fucking... I killed Miranda. She just collapses. Oh my gosh. Get up, Miranda. Oh, she's such a jokester. Are you going to rap now, too?

She's not breathing. Oh, Miranda. Oh, she's such a jokester. Are you going to rap now, too? She's not breathing. Oh, Jesus. Well, you did say earlier that you practice rapping in your car. Were you rapping and not paying attention when you got hit? I definitely, I mean, let's be honest. I've talked on my phone in the car. I've texted. I was not at that point in time, no.

I was just coming back to the Level 1 seminar. I mean, we drive around in cities that we're not used to and stuff like that a lot of times it was it down in la um that it happened jason was there um he had to assist me getting home the next day was it a t-bone you get hit on the side yeah so i was turning left and the car was going straight yeah you got that that lateral whip it was messed up but i so i went to the hospital that night and they, they had to fuse my vertebrae together. Um, and this was in July 18th,

17th, 18th of 2012. That's intense. So they did a full open, uh, you know, fracture reduction and instead, and yeah,

they went through the front. So I have a scar on the front of my neck. Um, it's pretty small. You can't really see it, which is probably why Mike had no idea, have a scar on the front of my neck. It's pretty small. You can't really see it, which is probably why Mike had no idea, which is literally no idea that I broke my neck. I knew I was just playing around.

I was kind of hoping you would have a big gnarly, like awesome scar right down the back of your spine. Well, I got a tattoo back there to commemorate, but show it, show it. See if you get on the sweet. It says live fate loves the

fearless and i got that after my surgery but um yeah so story they fused it together went through the front and i was like six months before i was able to really work out hard again so yeah what was your basic approach for rehab from that because that's not a it was a relatively straightforward is it got tougher than you expected Was it easy to recover from? I mean, it was easier, like, I think because of CrossFit, because I'm a CrossFitter, like, I just wanted to know what I could do right away. But I couldn't go overhead for probably, like, six months,

maybe not that long. Nothing explosive, so no box jumps, no cleans, no kipping pull-ups, no kipping anything. No, obviously handstand pushups, no kettlebell swings. No, everything had to be slow. Um, and honestly, like the day I got out of the hospital, I went and rode the airdyne bike. I wasn't, I wasn't, um, allowed to use my hands cause of the twisting. So I just had to sit upright. I did a lot of, that's when I did the 400 meters of walking lunges again. Cause it's like, what are you going to do? That's a good lunges again because it's like you get injured like this what do you do I pulled the sled

yeah you can't like you can't make your body do something it's just not prepared to do you don't want to do nothing so you do what you can it's fine what's a good example of people that like sprain their ankle and they're like well I hurt my ankle I can't come in and train today I'm like we got two arms and core and your other leg you could do a thousand things. My husband will give me a hard time. Cause I'm so like intolerant of people's little injuries. Really? My neck was broken.

You go, so my skin pike. Yeah. I got, I got this thing going on my ankle. I'm really stressed. Oh yeah. Did you break your fucking neck?

I do it all the time. I'm like, Oh yeah. That's at the level one seminars. People be like, what if I I do it all the time. I'm like, oh yeah, at the level one seminars people will be like, what if I have tendinitis in my elbow? I'm like, yeah, I worked out the day I got out of the hospital from breaking my neck. You can figure it out.

It's a pretty good fucking comeback. So I think I heard you say this one time, correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the worst workouts you ever did was like a 400 meter run, a 500 meter row back to back, just one round. I've done it twice yeah a competition so you did it again voluntarily yeah so well the second time was at a competition the first time i did it voluntarily because i had heard about it at a competition that i wanted to

do and i couldn't because i was at a seminar and then i did the same competition i think it was the next year and they repeated it so i had to do it again and it was awful but they added a sandbag for the last like 50 meters of the sprint the second time which didn't help no sandbags so you were saying that's one of the worst workouts that you've ever done like until i moved here yeah that was pretty bad oh yeah what topped it what kind of crazy shit does jason have you do yeah we've done some bad. One of the worst ones that I remember, I don't think Garrett was here, but definitely me, Jason, and Barbara did it together.

It was an every minute on the minute, which typically people associate those with being easier. Not when Jason's programming it, because he programs it in a way that like, if you finish in a minute, it's a victory. So it was 20 minutes, and I'm not even joking. He wanted to do it with 115 which would have made my weight 75 or 85 pounds and we were like no no it was um 10 thrusters

20 double unders every minute for 20 minutes and i was like jason how many thrusters exactly it's just 10 minutes of craziness i was like jason that's not possible like it's a bad idea he's like okay okay let's just try it and see what happens and we get going i think we did the first minute he's like okay let's drop it down to eight thrusters so we dropped it down to eight thrusters and 20 me and barbara like missed an entire round somewhere in there we were looking at each other with like please like help me what am i gonna do and jason's just yeah that that definitely was one of the worst workouts I've ever done. I guess it's one way to prescribe things like,

okay, let's start with something we know will kill everybody. Dial it back till someone survives, and that's our prescription. If it doesn't seem possible, it's probably a great idea in the mind of Jason Kalipa. I was just talking to Jason the other day. I asked him, since he had a big lifting background before he started CrossFit, it sounds like you kind of have, since he had a big lifting background before he started CrossFit,

it sounds like you kind of have the same thing, being a personal trainer before you started CrossFit. Do you think focusing on muscle mass initially was beneficial in the long term? I don't know. I think I have some pretty good genetics as far as muscle mass is concerned. The rest of my family would argue with you, but the rest of my family is not super active either. I think if they went for it that they would be.

They'd probably put it on easy. What would argument be um that that we don't have good genetics i never played any sports before crossfit so in high school i was a cheerleader that that counts i've seen a picture of you i think in a earlier state you look quite different earlier state earlier state you look like uh just ate a nice wholesome utah you know what do i look like now calm down i practice this with my wife let me see what i go through this upscale that was not what i was trying to say that you looked like a very not. And you were good.

I didn't have a neck tattoo. Let's put it that way. Good luck. Good luck. All right. We're going to take a break real quick. Chris can go stay in the corner. Cool off.

And then I mouth. She's so perfectly wholesome with a neck tattoo. When we come back, we'll talk about the NC labs. Okay. Hey, guys. Welcome to the break. Mike Bledsoe here. Just a reminder to go over to barbellshrug.com.

There's a video version of this podcast, which you probably picked up on, and you can go and view that. A lot of times we make references or we're showing a movement or something like that, and if you're watching the video, you can see what's going on there. What's everything CTP? What am I going to tell those folks? Oh yeah. If you're watching video version, there's a technique wad. You'll learn something new about how to do a snatch or a clean and jerk or a muscle up

or something like that. We'll usually put that in the middle of the show. So make sure to check that out. Thanks for joining us and enjoy the rest of the show. And we're back. Hello. At NorCal CrossFit. Hello.

I'm Miranda Oldroyd. Chris Moore redeemed himself over the break. Well done. We made up. I apologize to Miranda. Can we take a funny Instagram later, Miranda? I mean, we'll see.

You can post it. I probably won't, but... No, it's fine. I apologize. I apologize again, though. Feisty when this one is one is not wholesome i'll tell you that much so you guys started posting uh with nccf labs the website is nccflab.com only because nc lab was taken so we called the nc. Those sons of bitches. I know. I think it's like an actual legitimate laboratory. Like North Carolina Labradors. I think so, yeah.

And so what is it specifically? It's like, what are we doing on it? Yeah, what are you doing? Well, Jason and Garrett both did okay at the games this year. Yeah, so-so. We train also with Pat Barber, who's well-known in the CrossFit community. And I work a lot of seminars, and I'm out in the community a lot. And we get asked, look at these sessions that you guys do. We hear these stories about these bro sessions every afternoon. What do you guys do? What's

your programming? And what they want us to tell them is some spreadsheet and some formula, and it's not what we do at all. So I decided, I'm like, hey, you know, if people want to work out with us, they don't live here. They want to be part of the bro sessions. Let's post on there what we do. And funny videos of us talking about it and working out and some of the stuff that we say to each other, let's put it all on there and just let people, if they want to try it, they can try it. The other thing that I like about it is, uh, I don't think that people understand when they look at Jason, they look at Garrett. I don't think they understand how hard these guys train and how much volume they do.

And when you see it on the website, when you see it on the screen, you're like, what? It makes it real for people, and it makes people understand how hard these athletes are training, for sure. That's something you build up to over a long period of time, too. You don't just like, oh, I'm going to try to hang with these guys out of nowhere. Yeah, and I remember specifically, it's only been up for two weeks tomorrow um from the time that we're recording this anyway yeah and um i remember being like i wanted to pick a really

good workout for the first day to get people to be like whoa because it's not the programming on there honestly and we're very clear about it it's not for everybody on there, honestly. And we're very clear about it. It's not for everybody. Like if you're not doing all the workouts on CrossFit.com as prescribed in a relatively like good time, you probably have no business trying to follow what Jason and those guys are coming up with. Ill-advised strategy. What we're coming up with. So, but actually we've gotten some really cool stuff where people are like, I have no intention of trying to do the whole thing.

I'm going to pick one part from each day, scale it down and do it. But I still feel like I'm part of your crew now. And that's, that was the goal for the website. I like that approach. I think a lot of times you will start like blog programming to like reach the masses and, uh, it's there, they are trying to sell it as something that's for everybody. And, and, uh, I like that you guys are kind of like approaching it after talking to garrett and talking to jason i i saw the website for the first time earlier this week one of my athletes was like hey check this out and i and i i liked what i was reading but i like the approach you guys are taking as far as like it just being fun

yep it's not about like this is the best program and and you need to follow it to a t or it won't work for you or anything like that it's more like just having a good time so you can see what we're doing and join us and it's more of a community thing than it really is like a you know best program in the world type of thing yeah i mean i don't know about you guys but when i started crossfit there were there was no such thing as the crossfit games there had been one season of the crossfit games which was like a barbecue in the backyard, right? And you just worked out to work out and have fun and hang out with your friends. And now people, these athletes are taking it so seriously that they're not having fun anymore. And we just wanted to show that like, hey, number two and number five at the games this year are still working out and they're still having fun.

Are they working their asses off? For sure. They're working really hard and it's a lot of volume, but it's not, it's not as complicated as people are trying to make it these days with percentages and spreadsheets and all this stuff and when people are like well you know you guys aren't organized enough how is this ever going to work i mean like the proof is in the pudding with those two guys right like how is it how can you say that it's not working too so yeah we just wanted to include more people than can fit in the gym with us at 1 30 in the afternoon that's really cool yeah i i'm one of those guys that likes to try to figure out you know do the percentages and try to figure out you know exactly how to progress the athlete

just perfect and just because i like to nerd out on that kind of stuff i think we all do to a degree but you know one thing we always talk about is how uh it's the program you believe in it's probably gonna be the best program for you and the one that you're like you're gonna really hit hard uh because i know some athletes you know they approach a program and they're not really hitting it wholeheartedly and they're just not gonna even if it's the best program written specifically for them if they're not hitting it wholeheartedly it's not gonna be the best program yeah and we talk about that too. We're like, Hey, you could do everything. And that's why Jason, we talked about this. We're like, do we want to share our workouts? Like now everyone's going to be doing them or are they

going to beat us? And Jason was very confident. And he's like, listen, he goes, I could put my programming up there and I know nobody's going to hit it the same way that we hit it in here all together. Um, and we put that on there too, is it's like, Hey like hey you can follow these workouts exactly but if you're doing them wrong if you're not hitting them 100 you're still not going to get as much as you can out of the program so and and as far as like we know stuff that we don't know about too so we have a running coach and he's definitely nerds out on running paces and he tells us what to do and when it's that time it's specific and we're told what to do by our coach. But for the most part, when we're in here,

we're just making stuff up as we go. I like that approach. I mean, it's all about balance. Some data, some geeking out, some details. Obviously awesome. And if you have people to help you, it's really cool. But like I said, if you're not having fun, if you're not getting loose and just hitting it

and putting your energy where it's supposed to be, instead of the spreadsheet, you're not going to get the best out of your training. It's not going to fucking work. The spreadsheet says I should have won the regionals. I don't get it. You look it down, science. Actually, I know some guys that, you're not going to get the best out of your training. It's not going to fucking work. The spreadsheet says I should have won the regionals. I don't get it. You look me down, science. Actually, I know some guys that, you know, when

you look at their training, you see the results in training, you're like, this guy is going to the games, but then it doesn't really happen. It won't pan out. Or at the games, you're like, how can this person not win the CrossFit games by looking at their stats on paper? And I don't think people lie about their stats,

I just think that there's something. Not everybody anymore. Yeah, not everyone. So are you guys selling products or coaching or anything on the side as well? No, I mean we have some t-shirts so far, but that's about it. So you're just doing it for fun for the moment?

Absolutely, yeah. And you're posting your workouts on there too? Yeah, I mean we all work out together, so. It's all the same one? Yep, we all work out together. Same wad. All wadding hard on the same wad. Okay, so if you're a person that wants to try out the volume that a real

top level games competitor is doing, this is the perfect site. Give it a try, see what you think. We also. Asterix, careful. Be careful please. We tell people don't even try to do it by yourself because it's going to suck and it's going to be awful so you need to find a crew of people that also want to do it and I mean, like all the workouts that we do, I don't want to do it by yourself because it's going to suck and it's going to be awful. So you need to find a crew of people that also want to do it. And,

um, I mean, I like all the workouts that we do. I don't want to do that crap by myself, like in the corner of the gym. So we encourage people to find a crew and try to recreate the atmosphere. You guys are posting most, uh, multiple wads a day or is it just like usually one big single wad?

No. So what we usually do when we get together is from one 30 till roughly three, uh, we do a lot of shit. Who's doing the programming? Quantifiably speaking, it's shit. How's that for your percentages? A lot of shit. Is Jason doing most of the programming?

For the most part, Jason's yelling out what he wants to do. Sometimes we'll veto it. Like I know the other day, Jason's like all right i'm gonna do this with uh he was gonna do some power cleans i think and garrett and molly and i were like we're not doing power cleans we're over here like setting up our rings and jason's like what are you guys doing we're like we're gonna do the whole thing that you just said we're gonna do it with muscle ups so i mean there's definitely input but it's mostly jason um garrett a lot of times when jason's not here uh and molly and i will come up with some stuff together.

We'll get stuff from other websites. Like we've, you know, read Rich tweeted about something or, you know, Pat Sherwood sends us a lot of workouts and he's done a lot of programming, you know, for CrossFit. What was the one I saw just this week with the squatting? Yeah, that was a Rich Froning tweet. What song was that? Jason can't not, I mean, honestly, Rich, if you're listening,

if you want to mess with jason just tweet something ridiculous that you that you didn't actually do and jason will try to do it it's like a it's like anchorman where you have to do it here's the problem you could you could put something ridiculous and if he thinks that you did it he'll somehow be able to do it as long as he thinks somebody else did it jason can do it able to do it. As long as he thinks somebody else did it, Jason can do it. So. We need to set this up.

He's game, right? He's just gameness to the extreme. We need to set this up. We need to have a candid camera. And see if he'll try it. We need to set it up in here. He'll try it. We'll have Rich tweet something ridiculous.

Something to make Jason look really foolish. Get the camera on Jason. We've done it to him before. I don't know. So one time Jason was late to training and we were all doing L-sits. Garrett's over there laughing. Because we were doing L-sits.

We're like waiting for Jason. We're like, hey, hey, let's get out a bunch of gear, and let's tell Jason that we were doing weighted L-sits when he gets back, and he'll try it, and he's not going to be able to do it. Like on your feet or like a jacket? Yeah, so we got out like, no, like on your feet. So we got out like a couple different sizes of med balls, a two-and plate a five and a half a five pound plate a ten pound plate and he comes walking and we're like and Garrett's like Jason you missed it Miranda held an L-sit with 25 pounds on her feet for seven

seconds he's like no she didn't he's like immediately gets on the parallette okay okay I'm ready I'm ready I have it I think I might still have it on my phone. Did he do it? He couldn't do the 25. And the truth of the matter is we didn't try any weighted L-sits at all. We just got out a bunch of gear. He was able to hold the 10-pound plate. Just because he thought that we could do it, he went for it. And, of course, he's chasing.

That's a great way to end a 10-pound training. This is bullshit. It was storms off. Yeah, there's, I mean, a lot of places, that's how, like, people progress, you progress you know it's like you know uh you can't you can't break the the five minute miles or someone does a four minute mile and uh you know you can't uh no one can squat over a thousand pounds and then you see that dude squat over a thousand me that fuck I guess I can do that yeah yeah that's all it takes it's called powerlifting gyms where guys all squat right around the same weight until you go to a new gym where everyone

squats 100 more pounds more than you. Then you can't ratchet up to that next level. That's exactly true. It's why if you want to get strong quickly, all you do is recruit or go to a place where there's stronger people. And that's what we have here. And like independent of volume and calculations and all that bullshit. It's like if you don't want to get run out of the room, you fucking lift what they're lifting. It's the most beautiful, simple way to get really strong.

Yep. As soon as, I mean, I train. So there's one other girl that trains with us. I mean, there's a big group of us actually that train together. But one other girl that competed in regionals with me, Molly. And as soon as she PRs, I'm like, well, that's it. I have to add 10 pounds to my front squat now because this is what Molly front squats. And we go back and forth.

And I know the boys are the same way. So it's exactly what you're talking about the program's like one tiny little component oh yeah it's all this other shit it equals the whole pie just like anything else I think I talked to some other business owners and they they uh they think they have like a really unique idea for like a bit they have this business idea no one has ever thought of this this is mine I'm like all right first off a thousand people thought of that yesterday um and then it's uh it's all in the execution you know uh there's a million search engines out there but for some reason google uh you know they had the best execution and that's why they're the most popular and that's why we say hey i'm gonna go google that

now talk about it but you gotta do i probably connected with nobody with that analogy yeah now we're talking about google i want you guys to battle we are in san jose i'm not very good at making it up on the fly boring rap battle we've just sit in a corner with fans like that's not gonna sound good i'll be back in five minutes. Let me go Google it. Go ahead and wrap this up. Thanks for having us out. We've had a great time. Yeah, thank you.

Loved hearing about your broken neck. It was cool. I'm glad you're still walking. Thank you. That story made us all queasy as hell. Yeah. Any sponsors you want to mention? Anything you want to promote?

I mean, yeah, definitely. NorCal CrossFit. Obviously obviously these guys have been my family for the past two years and helped me survive a broken neck so NorCal CrossFit

for sure yeah Rogue Fitness Progenix Perfect Foods Bar so we gotta get some of these bars now yeah

I think I have one in my bag if you guys want to try it I'm sure let's do it yeah I'm gonna that might be our three meals tomorrow. That's all we eat, so there's a secret.

I was like, I want abs like these guys. I'm going to start eating those. James Cleaver says just eat a little chunk of it. And then you'll be totally ripped. And then you'll look like him. What's the name of it again? Perfect Foods Bar. Perfect Foods Bar.

All right, cool. Do you guys have Whole Foods in Tennessee? We do. All right, there you go. Only one. Only one in Memphis. They're remodeling it, though. It's going to be fancy. guys have Whole Foods in Tennessee? We do. All right, there you go. Only one. Only one in Memphis. They're remodeling it, though. It's going to be fancy. They say. They say it'll be fancy.

These Whole Foods. Yeah. All right. That was about as good as your intro. Guess who's not getting interviewed again. Guess who's not getting interviewed again? Who? I'm not good on my feet. Bye bye, everybody. Make sure to go to iTunes and give us five stars.

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