Barbell Shrugged - A Global Movement to Save Sports and Fitness w/ Hunter Mcintyre, Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Travis Mash - Barbell Shrugged #508

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

OCR Stars was born from the fallout of sport during the 2020 season. Competitions worldwide have been put on hold due to the Covid circumstances; this has left millions of participants and tens of thousands of athletes with empty race schedules.    As a professional athlete, I have built the last nine years of my life around the schedule of my events. This was taken away late February and continues to show that there is no certainty it will come back any time soon. This has created an opportunity that can change the industry and save the 2020 season that is all but lost. With the resources that I have amassed over my career, my team and I are launching a virtual event with four workouts over four weeks to find the fittest OCR athletes in the world. Athletes globally will be tested by all the characteristics that define an OCR champion. By the end of the four weeks, we will crown workout winners and eventually an overall winner.   The true purpose behind this event is to push funding back toward the athletes while also supporting the age group participants with sponsorship packages and event passes to top events for the 2021 season. Our goal is 10k-20k participants at $30 a person. This will allow us to put up to $250k cash back into the community and athletes. This event will be the first of its kind, and with the right team this will be one of the biggest global internet events in the history of endurance sports.   LEARN MORE HERE   -Hunter McIntyre CEO|FOUNDER   In this Episode of Barbell Shrugged:   Reflections on Crossfit Games Appearance What is the future of OCR and Sports in general Getting gyms to participate in OCR Stars Why athletes are struggling in the current state of sports Being a part of OCR Stars, equipment, rules, and participation    Hunter Mcintyre  Anders Varner on Instagram Doug Larson on Instagram Coach Travis Mash on Instagram ———————————————— Training Programs to Build Muscle: https://bit.ly/34zcGVw   Nutrition Programs to Lose Fat and Build Muscle: https://bit.ly/3eiW8FF   Nutrition and Training Bundles to Save 67%: https://bit.ly/2yaxQxa ———————————————— Please Support Our Sponsors   Legion Athletics Whey Protein, Creatine, and Pre-Workout - Save 20% using code “SHRUGGED”   Fittogether - Fitness ONLY Social Media App   Organifi - Save 20% using code: “Shrugged” at organifi.com/shrugged   www.masszymes.com/shruggedfree  - for FREE bottle of BiOptimizers Masszymes   Garage Gym Equipment and Accessories: https://bit.ly/3b6GZFj Save 5% using the coupon code “Shrugged”

Shrugged family, we have an incredible announcement to make. Next week, we are headed to Bentonville, Arkansas. And for many people, you're probably wondering, what the hell is Barbell Shrugged going to Bentonville, Arkansas for? Well, guess what? Barbell Shrugged is coming to Walmart. And on October 26th, the last week of October, we will be launching three training programs

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stronger, healthier life. And we want it to be fun. That's why we laugh. That's why we wake up every morning and make strength and conditioning fun. Because if it's not fun, you won't do it. And I think that that message is missing in so much of our country today. I think it's missing in so much of the higher level nuances that really add a lot of value to what you may be interested in and how you can tweak your performance, but it alienates a gigantic demographic that is the group of people that are sick and unhealthy that we can truly do the most good. If you live in San Diego, if you live in Los Angeles, if you live in Las Vegas, please, at the end of the month, go to your local Walmart, pick up the programs. The more programs we can sell in these initial stores,

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But thank you. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Anders Varner, Doug Larson, Coach Travis Mash, Hunter McIntyre. I'm here, guys. CrossFit Games athlete athlete undefeated broken skull ranch uh what else we got ocr six-time champ best mullet in all of social media and you have your undisputed four-time national champion beer drinking you know having good time um and it looks like you have your uh miami cocaine dealer sunglasses on even though you're in malibu right now well you know what you gotta deal

cocaine on coast to coast baby it's a global business all right i gotta i gotta grip of honesty i gotta have with you guys i just attempted the beer mile record this morning for 200 pounds plus and i i failed miserably i got really laps in i hit the gas pedal too hard threw up everywhere so well i'm gonna come at you hard first question then i want to know if you failed on this one and you failed on your murph world record are we starting to see the decline of your athleticism here? Oh, I got, I got, I got my Murph record.

That's yeah, I got that. I didn't see the second one. No, no, no. I want to go sub 30 on it. I,

I just over trained the shit out of myself. The current record is 34, 13. Before that it was by your BKG at 38, like 36. And so I, I got it. Um, um but the i don't know dude you got to just keep on trying shit when there's no races to do yeah fucking put shit up on the wall and just start going what is that did anyone anyone take you up on that that malibu big sand dune run that you were doing i saw you running it and there was a challenge there but i never followed up literally two days later these these navies i think they were navy seals they didn't

really want to tell me what they did in the navy kind of guys they showed up they there was like 14 of them and i was like guys here's a thousand dollars go do it one guy clipped it he got it by like six seconds so i'm a good i'm a big guy when it comes pay to play um I you know I run for cash so if anybody else wants to show up for me dude I'll pay you dude I want to know what your thoughts are on Adam Klink's sub five minute mile and 500 pound back squat and what was it like an hour something like that it's pretty savage man I mean I was I i first i thought you were gonna be first i tested i don't like squatting man i don't i don't i'm not trying i know travis you're a freaking beast it's okay then in the knee but i i don't i don't play that game um i just never have i think what adam did

is spectacular it's gonna start i mean we're in the YouTube era of fitness. So it's now like no longer, are you a CrossFit games athletes or Spartan race world champion? Like, can you do something that is like above and beyond like, kind of like Larry wheels. Yeah. That guy doesn't win anything, but he wins the internet. Yeah. That's what he wins. Yeah. He wins. He wins on a girlfriend lives in Dubai like, curls women on both arms. I want his training plan.

I don't care about going to the Olympics. Dude, what's going on with OCR? I talked to Mr. DeSena a couple months ago. The future of Spartan was very much up in the air. What's going on with competitive mountain racing? Well, I don't think it's the future of OCR we should address. It's just kind of like the future of sport. Like you can't point fingers at any one sport on the decline.

It's everything. I mean, it wasn't for like multi-billion dollar businesses backing NFL, NBA, NHL, like all that kind of stuff. Those guys would be in the tank too. Yeah. So, I mean, the reality is, you're going to see five people at the CrossFit games this year when last year we had 150. So, I mean, if you just put that on a piece of paper, you can realize everybody's in the

shit. Well, you've been to CrossFit, been to the CrossFit games, and I actually have been more tuned in to the NHL this year because they have a three-month-long tournament. There's one tournament, and it's awesome. The NBA has one tournament, and it's awesome. And CrossFit, everyone that makes it to the CrossFit Games, you included, you guys are super freaks of freaks.

But let's be honest. I'm not watching Heat 3 do air squats in 110 degree heat. It's just not something. So this year could be the coolest year yet, especially with the fact that they can broadcast just the top heat over and over and over again for people actually watching. I think that the online competition went pretty well. I mean, it might be just kind of this new era where you get some serious savages on a mountain with really cool obstacles not just the ones that people are used to and you guys can go duke it out well i don't know if i'm gonna get in trouble i signed an nda but something like that

is happening ah it's happening really soon um if they come for me i have no money fuck you guys no you come from my land i'll take you last um yeah that stuff's happening and i like that companies are pivoting and trying this stuff because the reality is it's like i get circumstances are a little bit off but if you have the resources you should put on what you can in a safe circumstance and let's just get back to it and like that's just why like i just asked all my friends to show up the track this morning watch me drink beers and do circles like i people want to get after it people want to do shit so i hope and pray that we're back exactly where we're at this time next year and we're laughing um but i don't think anything's gonna fall off i think it's just kind of like, this is the first time we've seen like a real fall

foliage come through, like all the leaves that fell off the trees and the powerful trees are going to live this one out and stand up and grow bigger and stronger than they ever had before. Yeah. What's, uh, prior to COVID, were you still training for anything CrossFit related? Uh, I mean, I was going to go to the Asbury Park event. And I basically done like the math in my head. If I had taken like six through eighth place, I had a chance of getting to the games because the amount of people that had qualified, it wasn't a guarantee by any means,

like they had like 40 athletes coming. So you definitely have to be a stud who's hungry for that number. So I was training up for that. Like I was building up a big strength block. My numbers are all starting to come up. I was just able to chuck bars overhead and chuck like in any direction better than I ever had before. So I came in healthy and I was ready, but Asbury Park obviously got canceled. I got my my placement my qualifying placement with them moved until the next year so um i'll go for it again that uh next year i'm probably going to be like 30 30 30 next year 30 high rocks 30 crossfit 30 spartan race yeah dude tell me about this high rocks thing it kind of i saw it when we were all out at Strong New York.

There was a ton of people running that race. And then I imagine just like everything else, but they've got great funding and it looks like a really cool event that, I mean, one, it suits you and your skillset very well. Yeah, they're backed by, created by a guy named Christian, another guy named Mo, these German guys who used to work with triathlon. And now I think they're backed by a created by a guy named Christian, another guy named Mo these German guys who used to work with triathlon.

And now I think they're financially backed by the company of triath, uh, Ironman out of China. So they got backing and they basically are now considering themselves, you know, it's marketing, but they're the world series of fitness. They basically take eight movements that they described to be like the key

factors of, of fitness, including running. So you do eight stations, eight laps. You do a 1K lap and then do a fitness station. And I think, you know, for all, everyone on the camera right now could go and do one. Not everyone on the camera right now could go and participate at a CrossFit event. You know, not saying that one's better than the other one. I'm just saying one's more accessible. Yeah. So that's their, that's their pitch. Some people are going to achieve higher than others,

but you know, I watched a dude at like 300 pounds, do the a hundred med balls at the end in like 30 minutes. And even though that's a savage amount of time to be squatting and chucking a ball, like, he did it. Yeah. I mean, that was what was kind of cool about it when we were all at Strong New York. It was like there was people, like, dragging themselves through the final two laps. But everybody got through it. Everybody was able to muscle through and get it done. I mean, I like it.

I like what Direction Fitness is going in these days, dude. There's so much cool stuff i mean like strongman is having its its reborn new fit forms of fitness are being reborn um just all sorts of cool shit like people used to just like riding bikes now they have things like cycle cross where you ride a bike and jump over fences and shit so it's cool what's happening dude last time we interviewed you we had a couple ipas and we were out in the middle of the woods or out in the middle of the mountains as spartan top best show ever ipa show mash you got one of those coming we gotta have one um and and it was like you were you were laser focused on getting to the games and and doing that since the games though

what is what is your big focus in training? Cause you're still hitting it hard. Like you look thick right now. Yeah. I just wanted to be like the most operational functional man above 200 pounds in the universe. Like I'm trying to do things like I was planning on trying to set the 200 pound world record in the marathon this year. Um. You know, I was doing things like high rocks. I wanted to make another appearance at the games qualified this time, obviously like, you know, through the traditional routes. I would love to go and see if I could pull off a top three, if not a win at Spartan race world championships in Dubai.

Like I'm kind of just keeping myself in this, like this little pie chart that's allowing me to go in any direction that I want. I'm not too broad. I'm just making sure that at any point in time if I change my focus by 10 degrees in any direction, I should be able to pull off something cool. Yeah. What does that structure look like in a week? About four days in the gym, six days outside. And yeah, you know.

Is your training better now that you're back in Malibu? Like what kind of changes for you from going from Colorado to Malibu? There has to be a totally different vibe in just scenery and the way that you respond. I think just because I've been here for nine years and I have like so many things at my fingertips that I'm in much better shape now than I was out there. Like I was, I had my crew out there and we had these training camps that we did for years. But I think just because it's like the war of attrition. I started out 10 years ago and I've lost, you know, 90% of the guys that I used to train with and compete with.

And now these young guns are coming in and they burn out like a candle. It's about this thick. Well, they can't, if they can't handle you in the gym, they definitely can't handle you outside it. Well, I'm not saying I'm the best at any one thing. It's just like, if I asked you to show up at the track with me in the morning and then at 4 p.m. in the evening, we got to move plates. Like, I'm not talking about like 95s and 135s on the bar. I'm talking about like, I'm not, I'm not finishing a workout until four to five plates are on the bar for deadlifts. And

I'm not finishing a workout unless three wheels are on for chest or, uh, chest or thighs. And not a lot of people want to do that shit. So, you know, when I come out here, like this morning,

I just did a beer mile and I'll probably crank out eight miles right after I get off the phone with you guys. And then I'm going to go to my buddy, crazy Bobby's house. And you know, that dude's 57, but he can, he can seven, still put seven plates on the bar and do quarter squats and pick, you know, rack pulls. And, you know, he just gets me there. I'm like, dude, we're going to do three by one at rack pulls at like, you know, 500 to 550. And,

you know, we're, we're going to rest five minutes between sets and we're going to drink orange juice and we're hopefully not going to shit the bed. And that's just what we do. And then you just, the next day you got to call another buddy. And, um, so being back here in Malibu has been really helpful. COVID's obviously shifted things like now I'm like on the solo train, but, um, for the most part, I would say things are awesome. You know, like I'll just say I'm so well set up here. My assault bike broke. I called a guy who – my buddy Blair who's got this great business.

He outfits gyms all over Southern California. I was like, dude, I need a bike. He literally drove to my house, took my bike, gave me a brand-new assault bike. Like that's the kind of shit that we got here, and that's a game changer. Yeah. What is a beer mile? What's that's that you heard of the beer mile no i've never even heard this what is this you probably you probably be a world champion um i can definitely drink beer i don't know that's all you need basically if you can drink beer you could can be a champion. It's a beer, and then multiply that by four. So you do the whole mile distance, but you've got to take down 48 ounces of beer also.

You smash a beer and then start the runs, and then you finish after the last run. Four beers, four laps. Beer, lap, beer, lap, beer, lap, beer, lap. And the world now is at 424 424 that's fast that's getting it the beer doesn't even have a chance to settle in you know speaking of world records you mentioned the the over 200 pound marathon world record i know just the regular marathon world record is just over two hours but what's the what's the 200 pound plus world record right now 238 238 you know the guy kip joge maybe weighs like 128 pounds and you know the bro is burning burning 434 miles for 26 miles i'm gonna have to do like five 552 definitely a different a different realm of

fitness but um we're definitely a different category of athlete yeah yeah i actually the guy that just went sub two i just read i'm sure this was like world news and i just didn't know especially in in the running world what the guy that went, what was it, sub two, like 159, 20 or something. But he had professional runners pacing him the entire way, so they took the record away. Yeah, you can't do that stuff. It's kind of sad what's happening with sports these days a little bit. I'm not going to say that I don't want things to improve for athletes,

but it's a very different experience when you're given shoes by nike that have a carbon fiber plate in them they have a carbon fiber plate in them that allows them to gain three percent energy for every foot strike so if you really yeah yeah and now nike's giving them to everybody like if you don't like, we'll give you a free pair of shoes. And people are like, fuck it, I'll take the shoes. Dude, before we get – Imagine if a Lico created a bar that when you guys go for that hip strike, it created 3% more vertical traffic. It does. The bar does. The oscillation does exactly that.

Yeah, the steel that they have makes it better. It makes it whip more. Shouldn't it only matter that everyone's following the same set of guidelines, the same rule set? Like, there's tons of equipment that we use to improve our performance from having lighter bikes for cycling to lighter baseball bats for baseball, whatever it is. Like, equipment is constantly improving right so it should really matter that they have this this you know this newer thing that's that's helping their performance or should everyone just be able to have that same advantage and then that guy just happens to still be the best well yeah they should i think so i mean i just don't

think everybody has those resources if you're on the the Nike training team, you have the Nike resources. If, you know, I've seen the athletes that you train, Travis, and like these kids are such mutants. And obviously, like you've created a great experience for them. But if you're one state over, and you don't have the opportunity to be with you, it's you're the coach, you're not going improve their their skill when they get on the bar you know what i mean you're just improving their skill day to day so that's not an unfair advantage but if all of a sudden you were the only man in the united states who had the special bar that was able to allow them to lift at a certain meet that's a that's where it starts to get into that like i'm with you so nike made a shoe that they don't sell that they just

gave to that one person yeah i don't know what it's called i think it's like called like the one percenter or something like that it's some kind of ridiculous title it's it it's not like they just give them i think they're basically like an olympic trials that gave everybody the shoe if you wanted it but if you have a shoe sponsorship by brooks and you're not allowed to run in it and now all of a sudden everybody else is running in it like that's i consider that to be a bit odd yeah that sucks i mean yeah that in powerlifting when the equipment was like the big thing it was that was a problem because some people can't afford like the equipment that's why i like it that it's raw so i'm i'm totally with you i think i think in barbell sports you'd see that a lot more if they had like a 0.1 pound plate because like swimming has huge issues with

the speedos that they wear like those full body suits that you basically like it repels water you turn into a submarine yeah like because 0.001 seconds matters so the amount of the how tight you're sucked into that suit makes a huge difference running is the same i mean if you can get three percent that's going to be over 26 miles that's a giant advantage yeah it's just a different level of performance enhancing so still the scientist in me wants to know what did they do to that shoe. It's like, you know, it's the same thing as China. Like I hate them because they beat us because they're genetically doping. But the scientist in me is like, how are you all doing that?

Not that I would do it. I have a book. Travis, have you ever read this book? It's called Soviet training and recovery methods. It's by Rick Bruner and Ben Tavernick. And I mean, dude, if you go online and look for this book, it's $600. Luckily my grandfather was a master's Olympian and he has these like old tomes and I would, I stole them all. Obviously you don't have them anymore.

Like take them but i was just like dude i'm taking those things and that book is like 40 years old and the shit that they're talking about back then that the soviets were using to help train them so if they're writing a book 40 years ago that means that they had the science probably 10 years before that sure and you know the shit that they were doing with like allowing electro like electro stimulus of like basically charging all the muscle fibers within the body so that they could activate better when they got on the bar, that's insane. That's no longer a natural form of human occurrence. That's a bona fide. That's the advantage of a socialist government then you say you get people

like andy galvin and you know lane norton and say like you have to work for us or we'll kill you and then you get the smartest people on earth like saying all right do these things here's something we're experimenting with then like you know the athleticism goes skyrocketing but yeah i'm actually super interested hunter in what you do for recovery. You talked about the war of attrition in your training partners over the last decade. Why are you still able to put in the miles and the weights and still get it done? I just hate losing. I love this guy. Yeah, there's a difference between the athlete that loses.

Like, there's a CrossFit Games athlete that I know right now that when he doesn't do well, it hits him so hard that it takes him forever to get back on the horse. For me, I lost that beer mile this morning, and it sucked, but I'm going to do the beer mile again this afternoon. Because that's life. That's life. And it means more to me to lose a thousand times and have a world champion or world record on my wall than it does to lose five times and at save myself the grease of grief of the 995 more times that i'll lose in the path to get that it's like you look for the thing that's going to kick you in the nuts over and over and over again until you you conquer it until you finally block the

kick you know yeah that's right has anyone ever said that you look like woody harrelson and sound like him i feel like we're talking to woody harrelson and sound like him i feel like we're talking to woody harrelson like this dude is like uh i've been i've been forming and growing this mullet out i hope woody harrelson i wish woody harrelson had it he doesn't have any hair anymore i don't think i know if he could he would grow that i'm sure um yeah dude dude before we get too too deep into all this, we're like halfway through and I want to make sure you, you tell people about the event you're setting up and everything that you've

got going behind, behind it, why you're doing it. Just to make sure we put it at the front end of the show. Yeah. Well, basically like where we were talking about, you said like what's happening with OCR. It's like, what's happening with every sport? I supposedly I 50,000 events have been canceled globally since this thing started. And whether that's a weightlifting, the gymnastic meet, Boston Marathon, World Championship for Spartan Race, CrossFit Games, everything's canceled. So I was like, even the CrossFit Open got pushed back.

So I was like, fuck this CrossFit open got pushed back. So I was like, fuck this. I'm not letting this happen. I'm not going to lose an entire year of sport. And if I'm struggling financially and I've lost all my sponsors, that means that everybody else below me is experiencing a very similar thing. So I basically just started, I got a call that Spartan Race National Championships was going to be canceled. And I knew before everybody else did. And I was like, oh shit. I was like, I just been training so hard for this thing. I was like, they're going to cancel this. That means they're going to cancel the world championship. That means they're going to cancel their whole season. I was like, I can't let this happen anymore. So I started to call

all the people who are players in the game. And I was like, do you guys want to help support me on this thing? Because I'm basically going to start an event that's going to raise money for our athletic community. Basically, my motto is like, sign up, show up, show us what you're made of. Like you're either an athlete who wants to contend or an athlete who wants to participate in our athlete who wants to support and donate. You have three options. And we're basically doing a virtual event very similar to the structure of the Open. Two runs that are verified by a company we partnered with called Strava

and two workouts that are verified through WODproof app and everything goes through Competition Corner. And we're basically trying to find the fittest OCR athlete, the fittest endurance athlete in the entire world. And we're not exclusive. We don't try OCR athlete, the fittest endurance athlete in the entire world. And we're not exclusive. We don't try to say if you love CrossFit, stay away. And if you love just running, stay away. We're like, there's a little bit of everything in here

for everybody. And we are basically going off November 2nd with our event called OCR Stars. And it's our goal to get 10,000 athletes signed up. And if we do that, we will have given away more cash prize in the history of any OCR event in history. And I think maybe any virtual event in history, we will give away $140,000 to athletes. And, you know, you don't just have to be a top dog to make money. We're going to give away monies to event winners, workout winners, event winners, age group athletes are going to get incredible stuff like, you know, Suunto watches, shoes, top performing gyms are going to get 10 cases of FitAid. The top 10 performing gyms are going to get 10 cases of

FitAid. Even if you are in dead last place, you're going to get something. And like, I just, I'm the kind of guy, just like I've explained over this entire podcast that I'm not the kind of guy who quits. Like, you're not going to tell me, hey guys, Hunter, the year's canceled. I'm like, you know what? I'm creating a new year within this year. And I'm going to, I'm going to take charge and I'm the new CEO. And I'm going to make sure that if you try to cancel something, I'm going to show up right alongside you and put a start line right where yours used to be. And, you know, everybody is in support. We have had a lot of success so far, but we're still, you know, not at our mark yet. And that's why I called you the other day and I said, you know what, you have such a reach that it would be very valuable, important to me to get on your podcast and make sure that the world knows.

What equipment do people need? Like what's the track? What do you, important to me to get on your podcast and make sure that the world knows um what what equipment do people need like what what's the track what do you what's what's the setup that somebody would need to be able to participate equipment list number one is you need either a smart watch or a smartphone or a smart watch you need to be able to record the fact that you ran if you want if you want to like you know, basically insert your scores in there. If you just want to like, if Travis didn't want to basically record everything and put his exact score up there, or, you know, honors, you didn't want to do it. You can just put it in there and say, you ran a five minute mile. We can't verify it, but that's the fact. So these two

were record. Then it will go into the app Stra strava you just click the link and embed it into your competition score thing pretty simple and the equipment list is only three objects for men 250 pound dumbbells for women 235s for for men it's a 24 inch box it's women's a 20 inch box it's the competition standard 24 20 30 and a pull-up bar that's bolted in so that we can make sure that everyone's safe. I'm sorry, anybody listening to this, I love $19 door pull-up bars, but they just ain't going to hang. You're going to rip the whole frame out of your house. I can vouch for that for someone who has fallen off of a door pull-up bar

and broken his arm. Oh, my gosh. Is it possible? I guess there's so many people that have been hit by this whole thing over the last seven months. And, you know, gym owners, I feel like, are just starting to come back online. In North Carolina, I think we opened up two weeks ago. We got to go ahead to get to 30%. Is there a way that

gyms can participate outside of individuals? Are the gym owners able to come and start their own teams? You're totally on board. So we started a whole gym program where just like the open, we have contacted gyms globally and nationally to participate. So let's say any of you guys own a gym. I've been on the phone every single day with a half dozen to a dozen gyms. So let's say any of you guys own a gym. I've been on the phone every single day with a half dozen to a dozen gyms. And I just say, Hey guys, like you obviously are, uh, are basically a business of fitness. Your clients, I'm calling you because your clients love to work out, love to compete, love to just challenge themselves. Uh, as long as you guys are available for these four weeks and can host at least one day where people can

come in and test the workout with the open gym where you actually program it into your week, we are basically setting it all up for them. So we're sending over flyers. They get put up on our map. So if you go to our website and you go to race info, there's a grid and you can see all the gyms in the United States and globally. So let's say you live in North Carolina, you don't have a gym and the equipment. You just go right over Raleigh. We have one over in West End, my buddy's company called Evolution Athletics. We have a bunch in Florida. We have the entire upper Eastern seaboards packed full of them through New York and New England. Do that. Yeah. I mean, it's growing fast and that's probably like 50 of the gyms that have

already signed up because every day my tech team has to go in and mainly um and you know basically integrate that into our system so we're growing yeah but i just know the crossfit gyms especially with all the drama that happened with glassman like they've just taken a beating over the last seven months and they're just looking for things that they can rally their people around and and get them back together they missed murph this year I've got people reaching out to me thinking about what they can do on Veterans Day. And I'm like, is there like a Veterans Day workout? But this seems to be right up everyone's alley because it gets them. Is it a one day long thing or is it the full weekend? It's Monday through Friday. Monday through Friday. Oh, so it's every day's

your daily workout. Yep. So you guys, every, so it's every day, your daily workout. Yep. So you guys, every, so starting November 2nd, then November 9th, then it's like November 16th, and then it's November 23rd. Those are the four weeks. And those are the starting days, and you have until Friday to submit. And it's pretty simple. First workout's a track workout. I haven't told anybody this, but by the time it releases, this podcast will be good. So the first workout's a one-mile time trial.

Pretty simple. Four laps around the track if you record it or just record it on your watch. The next one's called the gripper chipper. That one's just like we designed, like our 3K kind of global event, which is very much a sprint and grip-based event. It's all about changing implements and testing your grip and your capacity. Yep. This one's the road is the road race.

And the last one is called Burpee Mountain. That one's just like the Spartan beast. It is incredibly brutal. 16 minute AMRAP. And that's the kind of thing where it's like, based on my 10 years of competing professionally i've done every distance whether it be the 24-hour championship down to the one mile championship and these things are directly supposed to land and hit every hit every dot so you know it's designed

well it's meant to be fun meant to be inclusive and you know by the end of this thing i want to say that we saved our year yeah 16 minutes of burpees well burpee mountain if i'm just gonna let you guys know i'm gonna give you details so if you may release this on the day that you want us to so we're not giving all the all the goods away here if you guys release within the next week it'd be great because i'm gonna release i'm gonna release the first workouts i going to release the first workout. I'm going to release the first workout on October 1st. And right now we're on the 23rd. So yeah, basically if you guys hit anywhere between the 30th and moving forward, you're great. The sooner the better, because we want more people to know. But that Burpee Mountain thing in our sport sport you have to do a lot of getting onto the

ground crawling under an implement getting up so that's basically the you know the travel path of a burpee right i'm standing back up that's basic the mountain obviously we have a 24 inch box if you imagine box step ups uh box jumps all those kind of things now you're doing what's called vertical travel so it's meant to simulate the feeling of climbing a mountain. So I'm giving you guys details without giving you everything. I just threw up just thinking about that. World's strongest man, burpee mountain.

I don't know. They would have a future for you, Bash. You got to punish that. It is an AMRAP. You likely will finish. Two is a score. Yeah. you likely will finish I'll be five it's like it owes you money two is a score

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Use the code shrug to save 10%. We are going to get back to the show. Who are you partnering up with on this? I mean, the companies, but also the athletes. I think that this sounds like it's very athlete driven and there's no better person to kind of organize the entire crew of people than you. But what athletes have you gotten to jump in on this? Because one of the coolest parts about the Open is everyone gets to compete against Matt Frazier. Yeah, well, I haven't gotten Matt Frazier on board yet. I'm calling him tomorrow.

I think he's busy. Where's Tia? Tia's a sweetheart. I bet you she would actually love this. We basically have CrossFit Games athletes already signing up. We have world champion mountain runners signing up. We have world champions, you know, OCR already signing up. We have world champion mountain runners signing up. We have world champions, you know, OCR athletes signing up. You know, I called the guy the other day who holds the world record for one of the world records for the beer mile. I called him,

dude. And I was like, not only do I want tips on how to drink and run fast, but I want you to know that there's cash on the line. And if you love running, this is going to do great for you. Like there, you will make a dollar if you show up and run hard. And like, he was immediately like, wow, really? And I was like, yeah, dude, I was like, do something about it. So I'm on the phone with everybody all day long. As soon as I get off with you guys, I'm on another call, just making sure that people and you know, every sport knows about it. And, you know, I don't want this to be just about the pros like i want people to have fun like i want my brother is one of the investors in this thing i'm making him do

every single workout just because you got money doesn't mean you can pay not to play i was like you're part of this now garrett your money's only sort of good here this all sounds very doable if you're you know a 13 year old kid as well. Is this something that you're encouraging younger people to do also? I'm encouraging everyone to do it, but to be honest, my insurance policy does not allow me to include anybody under the age of 18 as a competitor. I didn't know very much about the competition industry until I started this, and now I'm on phones with legal people all day long. Like I say something and then all of a sudden, my buddy, John, who's head of operations, he's like,

hey, I just talked to legal. We probably can't do that. I was like, all right, thanks. You'd be amazed. There's a little bit of red tape in some places. But you know what, dude, like a 13-year-old guy or girl could easily do this and have a great time. And, you know what, dude, like a 13 year old guy or girl could easily do this and have a great time. And, you know, I used to go to Heppner's gym. There was a girl that he trains with regularly now. When I first started meeting her, she was too young to compete in CrossFit. But if she was able to, like legally able to, she would have been a contender from the age of like 13. So I implore anybody at a certain age who wants to take the challenge you might as well start now because it's coming right around the corner for when you're able to really compete

with the big dogs well it's not like anybody under 18 that means anything anymore when you see some of these uh 16 17 year olds crossfit athletes lifting weights these days it's freak shows i mean look at ailey adams she's, she's killing it. You coached her, didn't you, Matt? She was at our gym for quite a while. Her and Ryan used to train together when Ryan was still doing CrossFit. Are you still training that kid

who was 15 and cleaned 405? Yeah, of course. He's 14 now. Yeah, he went down. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, he's still with us and uh that is our american hopeful i i think about you constantly anytime i go in the gym and i think about that kid moving that way and i was like one i feel like a bitch and two i cannot wait until he makes his first olympic year and he just shits on the russians and chinese this is the this is the quad you got i got two of those young ones we got ryan and morgan ryan just did he just shits on the Russians and Chinese. This is the quad. I got two of those young ones.

We got Ryan and Morgan. Ryan just did. He just totaled 300 kilograms at 148 pounds. So he cleaned and jerked 370 pounds, weighing 148. He snatched 290, weighing 148. That's intimidating. Me too. Yo, Hunter, check it out out we need you to call him he just showed up to college

and your boy is in there slanging waves and wearing hawaiian shirt button downs yeah he needs your mind in college because he's already the strongest kid on campus. You throw a little Hunter McIntyre at him, teach him a little swagger. Just breeding grounds over at Lenore Rhine. It'll be the Pied Piper of women, not mine. My first tip is avoid beer and pussy. I say this all the time. If someone got a hold of me, like a true Olympic champion, and got a hold of me at age 18 and it was like Hunter just grabbed me by the collar.

He's like, if you just avoid women and booze for the next 10 years, you will be so successful that the next 70 years of your life, you will never have to work this hard ever again. You would have never got on TV, though. You would have been too focused. You wouldn't have had that personality, bud. I get personality. I'm not trying to

tell anybody who's listening to this who's maybe a young man or woman i don't i don't think that you shouldn't enjoy life but i think that there's there's a time and a place for all that stuff i i will tell you right now i've been to rehab for a year i was legally drug tested from the age of 16 until 20 years old like i was as far as you can go without basically being handcuffed to a jail cell for years on end. Like I went down that rabbit hole and then I came back out and turned it into focus. You don't need to make the mistakes that I did. You know, like, yes, have fun, have stories to tell because life is too short not to have them and not to live them. But at the same time, you know, there's nothing sexier than being a champion.

I don't have to wear pants to a party because I look like a champion. Okay. My question is this, is that would a guy do a sport if they didn't, if you said, look, avoid the girls until you're 30, would they even do the sport like you know i read this book um by napoleon oh yeah you've read it too yeah he talks about how like everything comes down to sex sex energy yeah like people become powerful because they want at the end of the day they want women or they become rich because they want women they become great athletes at the end of the day because they want women and you cut my balls off and said no sex i don't think i'd do

any of that i would i would lay on the couch and eat you know i'm getting my oxytocin somewhere that's the thing yeah i'm reading i've been reading the virtues of war it's alexander the greats book basically about his lifestyle and they're fucking everybody guys girls dogs whatever but they that's beyond me but yeah they they live they live by a code of ethics that war and success is far beyond everything else i mean like in the beginning opening part of the book he talks about how five of his generals his best generals didn't listen to what he had to say. And he killed all five of them in front of everybody in the army, just because that's it. I was like, he's like, this is how we play. And if you don't want to play by my rules, I was like,

you die. I play by your rules. Exactly. It's like, you know, I think there's a mindset that, that's where you can have both. I think you just can't lean too far in either direction. I agree with that. You just can't cut one out, though. Like, if you cut one out, the other one doesn't happen. Like, cut girls out, you don't become powerful. Cut power out, you don't get girls.

Well, I don't know. I mean, dude, have you ever seen the pictures of, like teal and elon musk when they first started paypal and then oh dude look at bezos he's this little dude he's like you see i i spray painted the words amazon on a picture in my in my office five years later he's getting blood transfusions from 19 year olds and just happens to be cheating on his wife, who's now worth $500 billion or something insane. Yeah, he totally turned the corner. See, a guy like that has no choice. He has to become rich and powerful,

or he gets zero sex his whole life. Exactly. That's a lot of pressure. I'm going to figure him out. When I was out in Colorado, I learned about this bloody buddy thing from some rich people. Basically, the richest people in the world are now taking vampire blood from younger people where you'll hire a young man or woman. And if they're your blood type, you pay, you know, $100,000 plus a year to these companies.

And you're basically getting paid to do blood transfusions with older people and basically prolong, like make them stay young and youthful forever. Does that work? Yeah. Does that work? I think the original, the original thing that came from was they took two mice and they, they fused their an old mouse and a younger mouse and they, they fused their circulatory systems and the old mouse got younger and so they started doing plasma transplants on a regular basis i thought peter teal was paying like yeah something

like eight thousand dollars a month um to do those plasma transfers yeah yeah is it working though like now if you look at peter teal like if you look at peter teal back when he started versus peter teal now it's like clark kent versus superman like it's they're different men what yeah they're different men i mean dude bezos is like bezos does is the exact opposite looking of like he shaved his head he got he got swole the blood transfusions worked for him for sure he got on all the trt also yeah he's like so much more jack than he used to be loaded up it's pretty unfair being out here in malibu and spending time with men in their 40s through 70s and they're leaner than i am and i'm they're like i'm like what did you guys train today and they're like oh well you know i just like went for like a paddle

board and i was like i just went for a three- bike ride and I'm going to do a deadlift session later. And you have more muscle mass than I do. I was like, so you're telling me paddleboarding did that for you, Mr. Yeah. I actually want to know all of those people because it was interesting when I got down to Laird's house that Laird just looked like the most in shape, what 52 year old or something like that. Like he actually kind of looked like the most naturally in shape person.

He was not over the top, but he's also the freakiest human in the water at all times. I'd love to see the list, like having a, like a, like a sporting event for all the guys that are on TRT that were ex-athletes to come back like I want that sport even though it'd probably be a little depressing to watch well dude what you guys know about Mike Tyson coming back right oh yeah is he on all the juice what's

is he gonna are they gonna are they gonna test him when he when he puts Roy Jones in a grave I don't know man I just listened to the interview with him the other day and he's talking about that electrolysis stuff that I was telling you about where they're attaching electrodes to his body, and they're allowing his muscle fibers to fire at a rate faster than his body could basically normally generate. And it's pretty insane. Like now all of a sudden your muscle fibers are supercharged.

And, you know, obviously I would say based on pictures of what I saw of him two, three years ago where he was a little bit overweight. He was kind of soft. He was overweight, and now he just looks like meat pistons, like ready to fight for human souls. Doug, what do you think? I think he looks faster now than he did towards the end of his career because he kind of got slow towards the end of his career.

I've seen short clips of him hitting pads and looking fast and powerful. I just wonder really how long he can sustain fast and powerful these days. I wonder how long he'll have to, though. I feel like it's going to be a very long, impressive fight, but the first round will be fantastic. Has anybody even remotely thought about the fact that he's running a charity event to kill somebody? He's going out there with this... He feels this second calling to be a warrior

and go hurt this man in the ring. He's like, but I'm doing it all for charity. For the first time, boxing's going to be fun to me. I get off on basically trying to kill this guy that's standing across from me. That was really intense when he was talking about – it was like when Schwarzenegger was talking about coming in the gym with each pump and outside.

But Tyson was doing it when he was like trying to kill this guy. It's great. It makes me so horny. Talking about the gods of war calling upon him. I was like, oh. You are out there right now. You guys want to make your predictions? I think Jones is going to win.

Do you really? Tell us. You're the actual boxing. You actually understand fighting. What does that have? No chance in hell. No, you don't think so? No chance in hell. I'm going with the guy who I think most people are going to think is the underdog.

I feel like Roy Jones Jr. can pull it off, though. As long as he doesn't just take a completely vicious bob to the left, left hook to the head, like in the opening eight seconds, like his peekaboo boxing style, he's perfect for it, and he's knocked so many people out that way, then I think Roy Jones Jr. can dance around a little bit, and then, Wear him out? Yeah, I don't know Tyson's training,

but I don't think it's going to take much to wear him out is the thing. I feel like Roy Jones Jr. will come in in much better shape. I don't think so. I don't know, man. I think he's going to get absolutely killed. Yeah, I think he's going to leave their brain dead is what I think. Yeah. I mean, if Tyson just knocks flatlines and silly, I'm not going to be shocked either.

Yeah. That definitely easily can and maybe will happen. He's either going to get caught off guard or – Tyson's either going to get caught off guard with some kind of, like, freak accident or it's going to be over within two rounds. Yeah. Yeah. Tyson's going to beat the shit out of him.

Well, I don't think Roy Jones has got the power to knock him out so he's not gonna get caught off guard but if if roy jones were to come in like tip-top roy jones shape maybe maybe he's got a chance to wear him out for two or three rounds but i don't think so i think he gets brain dead that's what i think i always know i think it's so strange that looking at Mike Tyson with a tribal tattoo stretched across his face looks so normal now yeah we're you we're all used to you're just so used to him being totally nuts that it just fits now like when he did it it was really crazy but now you read a book oh no I did not I have not I didn't even know he read a book? Oh, no. I did not. I have not. I didn't even know he had a book. Read his book and just be – Oh, no.

My dad got it for me. It's freaking huge. It's like 500 pages. My dad – That's so fun. My dad and I, we just get each other a book for Christmas every year so we don't have to do like the present thing, but it's a thoughtful book.

And that year, we both got each other the Tyson book. Basically, we gifted ourselves the Tyson book. I want to read that. You know what would be the best job in the world? It would be Mike Tyson's psychiatrist. I want to know what's in there. Like the dark secrets he has. You'd be like scared going home at night.

You can see them, man. They come out in that freaking hook. When he bites people years off you know like twice five million five million horsepower engine attached to the brain of a five-year-old like he's either absolutely elated and happy or just pure rage like you know when like a child gets upset you can't calm them down yeah but then it's attached to this monster and then all of a sudden he's all happy he's like hey how you guys doing happened this morning before work yeah um dude i actually want to talk about the cross of games for a little bit and that whole experience i don't even think i've run into you in person since a year ago when you took the stage how

like i guess a year later looking back on on that, but like, what was, how do you feel about all of how that all shook out? I'm very grateful, but it was very short. Um, I, I just, it was the kind of thing where if it'd be like showing up for maybe Travis and you know, that you guys have three attempts, maybe on each lift to show what you're made of and you're only given one lift yeah i was like she went one for three yeah i was like shit dude like why so the first event obviously like you know it was a complicated event 400 meter runs legless rope climbs to like

a 25 foot tall rope yeah and snatches at 185 pounds like I'm good at rope climbing and I'm good at running 185 pound snatches definitely were especially being on the competition floor for the first time ever in that capacity yeah pretty intimidating and like I got like probably like 10 misses so it was pretty amazing to stack up with those athletes and be in such a massive arena for the first time ever in my life yeah i have to say like that made my heart pound and like made me very like i really loved the experience i was like i have to come back here and then the next workout uh i it was a handstand walk thing and i'll admit I kind of, I, I should have been a bigger student of the sport. I did all of my training inside of the gym and I never thought how hard it would be

to walk on your hands on AstroTurf versus running, like walking on soft surface. Yeah, dude, it was, it was pretty insane. I spent my time going over the stairs. I spent my time going over the, um, spent my time going over the stairs, spent my time going through like, you know, wooden platforms. And I was like, I'm an ace. I was doing ring muscle ups into 70 pound dumbbell snatches into overgoing the stairs back and forth and walking around cones. I was like, I'm a fucking beast. And then I did that and it just, I got cut. And I was like, wow, did that really just end? And I spent a whole year doing it. And I guess that's just sport. It's not the sport that I'm used to.

Like every single one of my events, you get to finish the race at least. Yeah. And I'll admit like it was hard at first. Like it was an emotional fuck. But it's the same reason why I told you guys before. It's like, I won't quit. I'm still coming back.

I still want to compete. But then there was this other side of the coin that I don't like to talk about too much because I don't want to sound ungrateful. I have to say the CrossFit community is a bunch of twats. Those people are fucking assholes. Like I never met such a group of people. Like I felt like almost a degree of racism. People were shitting on me and telling me I was a terrible human being for wanting to show up to their party just because I wasn't the same. It was almost like, am I a different color person to you? Do you hate me because of the skin color? No, you hate me because I mud run and you guys do CrossFit.

So I had hate mail every single day. I had high level athletes shitting on me. I had Lola. I had Dave Castro, so i had hate mail every single day i had high level athletes shitting on me i had low level i had dave castro like one of his first dave castro jokes was just shitting on me at the athlete dinner and i was like you guys like this is what makes your day go by yeah like you spent all you made it right like did you make it like everybody else no they invited me i was the first person in history to ever be invited based on merit oh okay because you were the awesome obstacle course racer yes so they've always talked about wanting to invite athletes outside sports to see what they were made of and see like hey like what does our sport look like if an olympian from

from decathlon came or you you know, a strong man came and then they invited me. Cause I was like, I found, they put it in the rule book finally. And I was like, I'm going to campaign for this. Like I work so hard. I work out with CrossFitters all the time. I would love to be involved. Like I've competed against CrossFitters every time I competed against a CrossFitter before besides CrossFit, I would beat them in my events. And I did very similar events like TMX. I was like, I think I deserve to at least try if you guys are offering open tickets. And I did it. And once I got in, I thought it was going to be like, wow, I made it. But then it was like a

whole nother mountain of just dealing with people that were fucking really, really rude about it. And it was pretty amazing um so the athletes are mad that you didn't qualify the same way they did is that the issue you got like a special qualification they just thought that i was so unfair like i'm sure you guys heard about the interview fikowski like doesn't really yeah very much he doesn't talk very much he doesn't do very many interviews he went out of his way to set up a call with me and Armin to tell me that I didn't deserve to be there. And I was like, you're a child. I was like, you're a fucking child. I was like, if you really think that I'm

going to turn around now because you set up a video call and told me I don't deserve to be here. I was like, you're a fucking child. I was like, if you want to stand up and be the athlete that you say you are, just beat me. That's the easiest way to get me to shut up. And, of course, Fikowski got fucking dropped just as early as I did practically. He got dropped the next workout. And he even wrote – he was just like, you know what? He wrote me a nice note, and he was like,

I guess we're both getting dropped this weekend. Thanks for coming. But, like, I even had to, like to publicly fight somebody to tell them it's okay. I watched that interview, and what he really didn't understand was that you were going to come verbally destroy him on Armin's podcast. He thought he was going to come in and be like, you don't deserve it, and you were going to go, oh, okay, you said so. What he didn't realize is that your verbal lashing there

was going to be a great 45 minutes for everyone else to watch. That's so silly. I mean, if they made the rule, if CrossFit made this rule that we're going to invite people and he got invited, be mad at CrossFit. Don't be mad at you. They're the ones who made the rule like unless you like made the rule and you didn't you know that's stupid and there was other people

that they invited that year too there was a and everybody's like bravo bravo and i was well why am i the evil guy so you know what like i spent i spent the better part of like the remaining months just being kind of, I was, I kind of just went in with a bad attitude. I'll admit like once I got there, it was pretty amazing to see how many fans like you should have seen. I'm sponsored by pure spectrum and I had a booth and they set up an hour and

there's like world-class prospectors at all of the booths, literally like the best people you can imagine. And they maybe have like 10 people i had a fucking line out of the building and i was like yeah that's not happening yeah that's i mean dude when fisher got freaking destroyed by saying saying he was going to kill the judge castro's out there you know point him out making videos about it. And Fisher's Instagram following was all the way up. The backside of it is that the people that are on your team become very on your team. And then the minority lose interest because it's too hard to throw shade at people that long.

Yeah. So, I mean, that's the entirety of the experience. I don't want people to, I don't want to button it up and make people think that I don't like CrossFit. I still train CrossFit every single day. I still have five certifications from CrossFit. I love CrossFit. I still train at CrossFit gyms.

I'm calling CrossFit gyms to be part of my competition. I don't have anything wrong with it. I just think that it's very interesting. I would love to go back to the games again, and I'm going to qualify this time. I think more people who have my opportunity should push to be invited next year, because I think that sport has nothing to do with whether or not you made it,

it had to do the best performance. That shouldn't be the defining moment of sport. It's not like, hey, who's here? It's, hey, who did the best or who did PR or any of that kind of stuff. That's why we do sport. I don't think anybody plays football and says like, well, you sit on the bench. Fuck you. You never get to come and play with the rest of us. No. If you are training hard and you fucking want to get out on the field like remember rudy the movie came out and you fucking did that awesome thing at the end i should have been the rudy of crossfit that year people should have been fucking pumped when i did something great rather than never wanting to let me have my chance how weird is it when you are the storyline

like when you're an ocr i mean just in general like observing yourself like objectively viewing because you've seen it in every sport where they pick a side and they have to they have to have a talking point there's there's 200 people from around the world flying in to lift weights on an open field and in the middle of a coliseum like in the end they're just doing burpees and freaking snatches they got to talk about something. And you became, you were the interesting person. And everybody had to choose whose side you were on. It was fun. Of course it was fun.

I rode the shit out of that thing. Yeah. Life's been great ever since, man. And like, listen, here's the thing. I mean, that event's in my rearview mirror. And I'm on to the next thing and i think some people still will never live past some of those moments and still like hold tight to some of that experience so you know what like i this is just another year of my life and i

can't wait to tell you guys by the time i see you guys next i'll have two more world records and i'll have 20 more fucking badass stories to tell you. So I'm not going to quit. I'm going to find a way to get into the Olympics somehow without qualifying too. I love it. You know, that's just kind of like, that's the nature of the beast. That's who I am. And I'm always going to keep on living that dream. Dude, tell me about your training program. Every time I scroll to my Explorer feed, I got a very, very mulleted, strong, both pony showing me his abs and his chest and biceps what do you got going on

there it's called house hunter's academy of strength kind of brilliant i just figured you know i used to be a trainer i started out as a trainer and i wanted to i moved to malibu to train the stars to look super good in movies and And then I was like, honestly, I'm tired of getting people to do bench press and squat and running and stuff. I want to go be my own star. So I went and I chased the dream of being an athlete. And amongst those years, I continued to keep on racking up more and more certifications. And if I pivot, I mean, you can see those are almost all training books. Alongside my bed, more training books. On the long side of my bed, more training books.

On the other side of my bed, more training books. And my phone just stacks full of PDFs and training books. I'm a student of sport, a student of fitness, and I love nothing more than sitting down and writing great workouts to help me succeed. And I talk to my friends about it all day long, just like you guys right now. And I was getting so many messages from people saying, hey, how do I do this? How do I do this? How do I do this? And about two years ago, I think we met at this, maybe you were there at Strong New York. I met Ryan Fisher and he really was probably, he was kind of the jump

off point for me. He was like, dude, you should take this stuff and put it into training. Like you should create guides. And I did a little bit of stuff. I tested it out and I was like, I don't know. And then as soon as COVID hit, like, I was like, that's it. I have the time. I'm going to put the focus in. So we basically just started to build all these programs. There's what I do every single day. There's the Look Good Naked program. There's the running program. I've created all these guides. And rather than just filling up, you know, I probably have about 50 notepads like this

full of training. I'm now just putting it onto a digital platform that you guys can see. And I'd say the difference between my training and maybe a CrossFit training is like, I just love the raw strength and conditioning. I do some of the power and complicated movements, but I think where I really succeed the most is basically doing like big essential movements, tons of accessory work, incredibly like diversified aerobic work and metabolic work. And it's worked so well. Like over the years, I've been able to transform my body from 178 pound mountain running

champion, 215 pound CrossFit Games athlete, down to 195 pound High Rocks world record holder, into a 205 pound Murph world record holder, into the 200 pound, you know, I haven't hit it, marathon world record holder. Like I just find ways to tweak my diet, tweak my training, tweak the recovery implemented in it. And I can literally just point and go. And I love to just record these things. And now rather than just having to DM people back

the answers, I just share it. And mostly my programs are $10 a month. I just, I don't think like I bumped up the price point because people were like, Hunter, charge more. This has worked too much. The more I've thought about it, I don't want to become a multimillionaire off of stuff that I'm already going to probably talk about anyways. I think if I had the opportunity and I was a young guy and I couldn't afford this stuff, if I saw $10 a month, I would jump on that in a second. And I want everyone to have the same thing. So I'm dropping the prices back down to $10 a month just because I think

that's the fairest way to go about it. And I think everyone should be able to have that access point of knowledge for a cheap price point. Like I didn't go get a $200,000 exercise science degree. I spent probably about $2,000 to $3,000 on books and maybe $1,000 to $2,000 to $5,000 a year on talking to people like Travis. I used to work with Charles Poliquin, Bobby Maximus. What's his name? Brian McKenzie.

If I see the greatest person, I go study with them. And not everyone can always afford that. So hopefully they can use me as a middleman and maybe gain something. I'm curious. Do you, when you, with your strength training, do you periodize it or do you do like some CrossFitters literally just kind of throw stuff on the wall like Ben Smith? Like literally we, we interviewed him once and they just choose whatever they feel like that day. So do you do that or do you like have it kind of periodized now?

I'm big into periodization. I'm big into periodization. Like it may not look like the typical, like, you know, month one, 12 reps on all movements, month two, eight reps on all movements. Like I basically will take periods of time of like three months power, like power and strength or bodybuilding power and strength and then performance. So I do like, you know, three months cycles. And right now, just because of where I'm at and I'm not really preparing for anything, I'm not in this like

extremely focused on anything kind of block. I want to be able to turn at any moment um so right now i'm kind of like just cover all bases training but as soon as january 1st hits i'll go through the next strength and power block then after that i'll go through i mean i'll do bodybuilding then i'll go strength and power and then i'll be by sprint um summer next year i'll be in that performance block for championship. Do you have core lifts that you like? I know you said deadlift. I know you said bench press.

Are those your go-to or do you have others? I would say the most important lifts that I've realized are probably I'll do full deadlifts in the beginning. Then I'll go into power cleans. Then I'll go into rack pulls. So less range of motion, less muscle fiber damage, still level of intensity. And I'll be able to keep on pulling big weight without creating breakdown in my body. And as those things start to tilt, the endurance start to go up. Like that would be my understanding of like that range of motion. Full bodybuilding, like dumbbells, bench full, and then I'm probably just doing some singles. And then I'm just doing like either super heavy rack holds or pin pushes, you know, limited range of motion. I don't, I'll squat a little bit bit but i almost always do single leg movement like a guy who can who can

split squat with 200 pound dumbbells in their legs versus a guy who's doing like 315 on a back squat i think the guy with the single leg um split squat is a better balanced athlete now maybe for your sport that's a little bit different but i like single leg work yeah yeah it's yeah i like do both of course but like yeah i think single leg work is brilliant yeah i love everything you're saying you get where i'm coming from sleds are massive strongman work is massive you know i talked i went and worked with cal deets a little bit before the games last year and you know he and i rapped a little bit he he likes to isolate his movements and he says there's only a couple movements that can you know the biggest bang for your buck uh I agree that biggest

bang for your buck is probably the most important thing but somebody like myself who's a more diversified athlete I bring strongman equipment in because at any point in time I may have to do a strong man movements or I just need to be strong in an awkward position. So strong man movements really taught me that. Like rather than doing 315 pound deadlifts, I'll hold a 300 pound sandbag and I'll either do a couple squats with it, I'll do a couple lunges with it, or I'll just do some carries or holds with it. And that makes me so powerful and so brace ready that when I do, I don't have to train barbells at all. And I can put almost 405 on my back and hit a back squat without training

back squats for almost two months. I think Kel Deeds is in the, well, he's time restricted. You know, he's working with athletes that he only gets X amount of time. I think if he had all the time in the world like you do, I think he would do, I'd like to believe he would do that. I, I am 100% believe everything you said, but you know, it's, you know, talking to Stuart McGill, if you're not doing some strong man work,

I think you're missing the boat and you're not setting yourself up for success in your future. So I think what you're saying is brilliant. Yeah. Actually we went to Sweden and made our own barbells over to Laco. And then these guys over at Mad Fender sent me three sandbags all the way up to 150 pounds. And I use that sandbag probably 60% of the time now because I've just had so much fun playing with it. I feel like there's so much benefit that i haven't had for the last couple decades of training and just learning new stuff using the using the bags it's been incredible all right

now what did going to sweden have to do with you getting those bags because oh no saying we just made our own barbells over there you'd think that i would just only be sleeping with that thing in my in my bed oh yeah and now it now it's uh i I hit big lifts. Yeah, he did. He did. I like it too. I'm glad he did because I tell everyone. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm especially glad that we went on that trip now that COVID has hit right afterward. That might be the last international trip for a while. No kidding. Hunter, are you just bear hugging a 300-pound sandbag and doing squats with it? Is that what you just said? That just blew my mind.

I'm glad you asked that. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. So you basically will take a sandbag and doing squats with it as i just blew my mind i'm glad you asked that come on yeah yeah so you basically will take a sandbag i go i put it so it's a cylindrical shape i tilt it a little bit bring it into my chest stand up kind of sitting on my knees get it up a little bit more so that the weights will bounce up towards my chin rather than down towards my hip crease and if you can do that and you can drop down you're not going like full ass to grass but what that does is it just allows you to generate um you know basically off-centered strength because a bar is perfectly center of mass this is off-centered strength so it just allows me to basically be

more powerful in awkward positions i also even like another way of just describing off-centered strength is, have you ever seen, you know, the Eric's pads, those blue two inch thick foam pads? You lose 20% of your strength just doing lunges and movements on that because all of a sudden, now the angle is no longer straight through the bottom force plate of your foot. It's now somehow off balance. And you'd be amazed like when i was doing broken skull ranch stuff just having a little bit of that off-center balance where that allows you to generate more strength than somebody who has never been in that position before

yeah and i'm always waiting for the day that i get that phone call like i've been trying to get on titan games for two years and i keep on thinking they don't want to bring me in. I talk to the casting producers each year. They don't want to bring me in because they know I'll just shatter the TV screen. And, you know, I'm waiting for my call, you know? So- Crossfitters did well this year.

They did. They did. So now they need to call out the big dog. You know, Smog lives in a castle and a mountain laying on top of his gold, such as I do in Malibu. And he only gets to come out every once in a while because basically people know once they wake them up, it's going to go down. I can see those casting directors sitting in their, in their houses right now.

They got a stack just six inches deep of just pretenders over in one pile and Hunter's profile sitting over on one page yeah yeah they go we'll wait till the final season when when things are starting to slow down people are like ah then they bring in bring in hunter and then boom exactly that's that's what i'm waiting for so my training my training has been built over a bunch of years making a bunch of different mistakes and now i'm at the point where it's like after 10 years and competing professionally you can only do so many movements like i used to just throttle myself all the time doing things like King Kong workouts and stuff. And it's like, it just doesn't benefit you. So if I can take a couple movements that are going to make

me a superhero, I keep them there all the time. And I've realized over the years, like I haven't plateaued on any of my lifts. Like just recently I bench, I power clean 295 and bench 315 within a six-week window. Those are both PRs. I have to be doing something right. But it's 5 to 15 pounds a year if you're lucky. So that's what I'm working on now. I think that's the part that people struggle with. It doesn't seem like a lot until you stack up 10 years in a row.

Sure. Which is so crazy yeah i have videos of me two years ago power cleaning 245 and it looked like somebody had dropped a truck on me and now i remember it was awesome yeah now that stuff is up to my chest it's so amazing like you have these conversation with athletes and that's also the probably the biggest war of attrition is people want to see the results overnight and i was like you know if you closed your eyes and woke up 10 years later there's the results but you're gonna have to wake up and confront yourself in the mirror every single

day and accept the fact that that's where you're at and you're going to have to work hard to be where you want to be so that's the nature of the beast baby where can people find this competition follow you all the things um hunter mcintyre if you type that in anywhere you can pretty much find a bunch but uh hunt the sheriff is my instagram we put it all through there ocr star is official instagram all You know, I have a whole team behind me. If you contact us, we will get you what you need to know. Um, as I said, guys, goal is 10,000 athletes. I'm a big believer in breaking world records, and this is going to be the third one this year. So we want to give away the most amount of money. We want to get the most signups. I want to change out the outcome of our sports year. So if you are listening, either donate, sign up and participate,

or come and win the thing, baby. I think I'm going to sign up. I've got to find some dumbbells, but I'm in. I'm going to get my gym to do it. I'm going to hit them up as soon as we get off this. All right, guys. CrossFit Sermont, we're coming for you. Travis Mash.

Mashlead.com. This was a lot of fun, Hunter. There he is. Glad to finally meet you. Doug Larson.com this was a lot of fun hunter there he is glad to finally meet you doug larson you bet appreciate you hunter that was really fun hopefully next time we're back in the mountains with an ipa in person rather than on zoom call are you guys all in north carolina uh no they are i'm in tennessee i'm in memphis well we're doing event two at my buddy's gym at evolution athletics on on November 9th, bringing in like the best games athletes you can imagine.

What actual, what town? It's in West End. It's just, it's outside of Fort Bragg by about 45 minutes. So from you, I think it's within an hour and 15. Yeah, let me know. I'm there. If you guys are interested, we're going to have a hell of a throwdown that weekend. That is literally the most exciting gym I've ever been to.

Those guys are incredible. Chris McNamara is a stud and awesome gym owner. So if you guys are in the area, I would go and support that. I'll be there. I'd love to catch up with you guys. I'm going to make a little road trip, make the rounds. I'd love to meet you, Travis. I've seen you before, but I'd love to see your faces again.

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