Barbell Shrugged - A Statistical Analysis of Strength w/ Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Greg Pitts — Barbell Shrugged #400

Episode Date: June 5, 2019

    The One Ton Challenge leaderboard has over 1,700 athletes that have submitted their PR’s for the snatch, clean, jerk, squat, deadlift, and bench press. 85% of those athletes are male and 15% o...f them are female. In this episode of Barbell Shrugged, Greg Pitts debuts to break down his findings on average lifts, what it takes to enter into the One Ton Club, and the statistical analysis of all of the athletes that have submitted scores.   Minute Breakdown:   0-10 - Understanding the data set and constraints to creating stats for strength 11-20 - Sport specifics on deadlifting vs. squatting 21-30 - Snatch, Clean and Jerk compared to Squat, Deadlift, and Bench 31-40 - Guessing average numbers for males in the One Ton Challenge 41-50 - Guessing average numbers for females in the One Ton Challenge   Start your journey into the One Ton Club today.   Join the One Ton Challenge Leaderboard, record your PR’s and track your progress.   “What is the One Ton Challenge”   “How Strong is Strong Enough”   “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge” WHOOP - Use code “SHRUGGED” to save 15% on the best recovery tracking tool in strength.   Organifi - www.organifi.com/shrugged use code “SHRUGGED” to save 20%   Bioptimizers - www.bioptimizers.com/shrugged to save 20% ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-pitts -----------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I can't get you an Olympic medal. I can't get you on the podium at the CrossFit Games. I have no clue how to get your name on the board at Westside Barbell. I don't have the genetics to stand on world stages. I don't have the genetics to pose on bodybuilding stages. If Andy Galpin tested my muscle fibers, the results would come back slightly above average. Because of all the things I don't have, I've had to develop other skills. Hard work, consistency, commitment, character. That skill set put me on a private jet to Tampa, Florida. That skill set got my name stenciled on John Cena's garage door. The one-ton challenge is not for the world class. The one-ton challenge
Starting point is 00:00:46 is for people dedicated to the lifelong pursuit of strength. Because if you are willing to put in the work, if you are willing to show up, if you are willing to commit to a life under the barbell, there is a seat at the table for you in the one-ton Club. I know how to get you there. Training starts on Monday. We start with an eight-week squat cycle, and you can be in. Just head over to theonetonchallenge.com forward slash join to start today. Theonetonchallenge.com forward slash join to start today. Let's get strong. In today's show, we're talking stats of the over 1,700 people that filled out their PRs on the One Ton Challenge leaderboard. Once again, the squat cycle starts on Monday. You have until Thursday night to register for the year-long
Starting point is 00:01:47 the one-ton challenge.com forward slash join. The one-year training program starts Monday. Cart closes Thursday. The one-ton challenge.com forward slash join to start today. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Anders Varner, Doug Larson, Greg Pitts. You Can't Tell Me How to Live is in the house. Yo, we have a super cool show that we're going to walk through.
Starting point is 00:02:13 We have a whole bunch of people. So we built the One Ton Challenge leaderboard, and we wanted everybody in the world. We've been blasting this thing all over the social medias, getting as much traffic to this website as possible because on top of are we testing the lifelong pursuit of strength with one ton challenge finding out how much you can snatch clean jerk squat deadlift and bench adding all those six numbers up to find your one ton total and getting you on a training plan to make sure that you are
Starting point is 00:02:37 in the one ton club we've been collecting a lot of data over the last three, four weeks, finding out all these numbers, where people rank, how many people on average were getting into the one-ton club, and then the specifics of that, or the stats and the specifics that you need to know so that we can really test out what is strong, how do we get you strong, and how do we put some actual numbers and metrics to understanding strength. We brought in the guy that built the leaderboard here, and he does the technology thing, which is confusing as hell to me, and he's going to walk us through all the stats on the leaderboard so you know exactly what you need.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Doug and I are going to decipher this thing in the meathead way that we do to tell you the exact plan, the exact training protocol, and I'm going to decipher this thing in the meathead way that we do to tell you the exact plan, the exact training protocol. And I'm excited to hear about this stuff because I'm going to be learning on the show along with all of you. I feel like you just framed it like Pitts is the technology guy. He's never lifted a weight in his life. He's 155 pounds. He's currently in the top, like, 3% of strength numbers.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I don't feel that way around here. The Granite Games, a lot of strong people here. Oh, yeah. What was your one-ton total? My one-ton total, 2246, something like that. Good numbers. Yeah, I was in the 2200s. You were the very first person I ever saw snatch 275.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I haven't seen many people snatch 275 in my life, but that's still a big, big number. What was your best squat? 440. 440 440 440 i believe i remember that one best clean best clean 335 yep jerk you were really good 355 ryan fisher filmed it yep and then on youtube oh yeah like the first iphone it's just grainy i remember those i remember when you jerked 355. Fisher was there. Those were some days.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Holy shit. My deadlift was at the OC Throwdown. Oh, everybody's deadlift. We did do the CrossFit Total at the OC Throwdown. It was very aggressive. Speaking of Fisher, that was like the picture that actually got him unhomeless. The deadlift picture with his abs popping out like the turtle shell. God. Yeah. deadlift picture with his abs popping out like the turtle shell yeah that people that if he wasn't
Starting point is 00:04:47 on the on people's radar when that picture hit the internet it was like whoa and instagram didn't even exist but he's taking that one to the grave with him um right on well let's start this thing at the highest level how many people have we had sign up for this so that we were able to get, at least feel confident in what our data set is here for talking about these stats? So as of last night, so I pulled this at about 11 p.m. last night on Friday, and we had 1,700. 1,700 people. That's a pretty good number. I feel like we're going to be able to at least know where this is going when we have 17,000 and 1.7 million. That's a pretty good number. I feel like we're going to be able to at least know where this is going
Starting point is 00:05:25 when we have 17,000 and 1.7 million. That's a big jump. But when 1.7 million, I bet that's relatively the same statistics that we're on here. Yeah. Do you think 1,700 is a significant enough number in the strength world? To get good data on average what our audience kind of looks like as far as how strong they are on average and who's at the top and who's at the bottom, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah, dude, 1,700 people is a lot of people. Yeah, that's a good number. That's better than most college or most. I bet Andy Galpin. Where are you at, Andy Galpin? We're getting way better measurements than you are on strength. We don't need fiber type. Anytime we get to talk shit about. We're doing the same thing.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, your statistical relevance is just not even close to ours. He's got like N equals 9. We got 1,700. It's not bad. How many guys and girls? We got 1,460 guys and only 237 girls. So we're 85% male. That is exactly what our show looks like.
Starting point is 00:06:22 That's right. Thank you, 15% ladies. Thank you. That is exactly what our show looks like. That's right. That's pretty much it with YouTube and Instagram and Facebook. Thank you. So what's interesting is that the men and the women hit the threshold, the one-ton threshold, the same percentage. It's about 25%. 25? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Well, 27 for the men and 24 for the women. Interesting. It's around the same. Very interesting. 27% of people are in the one-ton women. Interesting. It's around the same. Very interesting. 27% of people are in the one-ton club. That's right. 24% for ladies. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That's perfect in my mind. Like, it means that it's definitely achievable, but not everyone's going to get it. Most people won't get it. But they're like, do you know how many people are on the, for men, you probably didn't run this stat, but like in the 1,800 to 2,000 range, there's got to be a lot of people that are just kind of right under the threshold. 27%? With a solid year of training, they could bump their numbers by 10% and be in. 27% actually is a much higher number than I was anticipating.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Because when we first started. I thought it was going to be 20. Yeah, I thought it would be like right at 80-20. Yeah. All right, everybody that's at 1,800, we're bumping this thing up to 2,200. All the people that are complaining about it not being a metric ton, now it is. Get it to 2,204. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:32 If you're out of the United States, you've got to do the metric ton. We have higher standards. 27 percent. That's way higher than I thought it was going to be. That's a lot of strong people in the world. It is. It is, but I think there's people. It's filtering people.
Starting point is 00:07:44 People want to sign up, and they're strong. And then there's also a lot of people with the world. It is. It is, but I think there's people. It's filtering people. People want to sign up, and they're strong. And then there's also a lot of people with zero scores, right? So people who are pretty strong with just their bench, squat, and deadlift, and they're choosing not to enter the other scores. So those people kind of bring down the percentage even. Maybe they don't want to submit, something like that. Yeah, there are. How many zeros are at the bottom?
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's like 20, 30? There's way more guys than girls. And then it depends on which lift you're talking about. Probably like 50 guys. Yeah, I think there's. Not as many girls. There are a lot of people that are very comfortable with the power lifts but may not have done the Olympic lifts.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah. And in the power lifting world, the one ton is like an elite total for many people just for the three lifts. We watched West Side vs. the World the other day, and it's like, or it's Travis Mash, the guy that wrote the one ton training plan for us. He totaled like 2,300 with just the three lifts. That's insane. That is so insane that the powerlifters are able to come out and just smash. God, elite total in power lifting is so gnarly. What was Dave Hoff on that from Westside?
Starting point is 00:08:53 He posted a 3,014 with three lifts. Twice. Yeah. He did like 1,005, and then he beat it by 1,010, and now it's 1,014 or something like that. It was like a couple years apart, right? Yeah. He went back, he5, and then he beat it by 1,010, and now it's 1,014 or something like that. It was like a couple years apart, right? Yeah. He went back, he left, and then came back and did it again.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah, there was some controversy with the depth of his squat with the 3,005, and so people were giving him shit on the internet and then went out there and did 310 and then now 314. Oh, yeah, it was four years. It was nice that it wasn't a one-time deal, so he could hit depth and not have the controversy. Greatest of all time. Dude, averaging 1,000 pounds over three lifts.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Woo! Wait, did he bench? So he squatted probably, what, 13, 12, 12.5, something like that? Probably 12-ish, give or take. And then pulled 1,000. Yeah. Because the dead at those ranges, the suit makes such a difference that getting to your deadlift is usually, typically lower than your squat for those people.
Starting point is 00:09:51 In powerlifting, yeah, the squat suit really helps out. Like the world record for squatting is in twelves, I want to say, and then deadlifting just over a thousand. Something like that. Yeah, and then you bend straight about a thousand. No, 800. Yeah, probably between. 900. Eight, nine.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Good lord. I don probably between 800 and 9. Good lord. I don't know the real numbers. So, yeah, the people that are not putting their Olympic lifting totals in, it's totally, that is, they're still, if you are an Olympic lifter, you already know what your squat dead and bench press are because they're significantly more common, whereas the snatch, clean, and jerk are a little bit less trained. More people are into powerlifting than doing the snatch, clean, and jerk.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Did you happen to run numbers? I haven't looked at your stats over here. Did you happen to run numbers on what on average the highest lift was? Say the highest lift is the deadlift, and then the squat is x percentage of the deadlift, and the squat is x percentage of the deadlift and the snatch is x percentage of the deadlift like relative to the highest on average i'm really curious like um if maybe in people's profiles down the line you you could you could say the on average people are people's clean is i have no idea we'll say um 60 of their deadlift yeah but but you your clean is 45 of yourlift. So you got some clean technique issues to work on or whatever it is. Having those ratios, I think, was really cool in the future. Yeah, that's a super good idea. That's why I'm pumped to be here talking about this stuff,
Starting point is 00:11:13 right? Because we have some of the data, but just kind of brainstorming on what would be useful and what's cool to see up on the site would be really awesome. I like that idea of the relative. Because I noticed, I kind of noticed in the movie even, that some of the higher deadlifts weren't, relative to the squats, they were like lower than the guy's squats. Right. And that was kind of, I'm just not in the world all the time, but that was surprising to me.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Right, we're talking about that. With geared powerlifting, typically squatting is a higher percentage than deadlifting. Yeah. For most raw people, especially like the CrossFit space, the deadlift's going to be much higher. I see. I see. Would you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Certainly the case for me. I deadlifted just over 5, 5'10", and my best squat was 4'29". I was 4'28". I'm like 80%, 85% of my deadlift was my squat. I was 4 1⁄4 and 4'75". My biggest pull ever was 4.75. Yeah. Yeah, deadlifting.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Plus, deadlifting is just such a mental battle of, like, you're just going to pick it up. Like, you have to be really angry. You have to be really fired up. And you have to be willing to potentially throw one of your spine, one of your vertebraes, into the rafters. If it gets dicey, you've got to be willing to come in. Nosebleeds.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And with my numbers and most CrossFitters' numbers, they're usually talking about high bar Olympic back squats, and they're not talking about, you know, low bar, wide stance, barely touching parallel. My squat was no belt, no knee wraps, high bar, full, full, full depth. Yeah. Not like a powerlifting meet where you're trying to, like, you know, just get the absolute biggest number,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and so you're trying to keep the range of motion as short as possible. You're optimizing your stance to, like, limit the range of motion. You got your belt and your squat suit and your knee wraps and everything else. Like, you're really optimizing to inflate the number as much as possible. Most CrossFitters aren't doing that. They're doing a raw deadlift and a raw squat, and so the numbers just play out a little different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Well, let me ask, so if we brought in the relative numbers, especially like the Olympic lifts versus the strong lifts, how would that – that's going to help in the programming, right? So if someone's in the program and you know that information, you can just look at a set of basically ratios and find out if there's one that's disproportionately weaker than the other, right, and then focus the training. Yeah, you could tailor the programming to that very specific athlete. And or like I said before, like oftentimes when people's Olympic numbers are radically low percentage-wise relative to their raw strength numbers, usually it's a technique or mobility issue.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Sure. Like at this point with my own training, like if my technique hasn't changed in a long time, my mobility is pretty consistent. Like if I want my numbers to go up and down for my Olympic stuff, then I just need to get stronger. If my numbers go down for my Olympic stuff, it's usually just because I haven't been prioritizing strength. Overall strength is lower, and so my Olympic stuff is lower. It's just a downstream effect. Getting stronger is really, I mean, dude, if you're inside, like, 90% of having perfect form, like, we spend so much time trying to find that secret sauce,
Starting point is 00:14:08 watching all the little videos in Coach's Eye and putting the points and did the bar sweep in perfectly. Like, dude, you just got to get strong. Like, just do the work and start eating better and, like, recover better. Like, you just got to deadlift and squat more in a way. You need to go through that technique phase. Totally. Because there's definitely a lot to it. I love technique. Once you're inside
Starting point is 00:14:32 a certain percentage of perfect, whatever the picture perfect snatch and clean and jerk looks like. If you're not inside that, you better be doing a ton of work on the positions. Some people say if you confront squat or triple, you better be doing a ton of work on the positions. I know some people say, like, if you can front squat for a triple,
Starting point is 00:14:48 you should be able to clean it. That's like one loose standard. Of course, it's not perfect for everyone and all that, but if you can front squat 300 for a triple, you can clean 300. If you can front squat 400 for a triple, you can clean 400. It won't work out like that every time, but that's just – I can't. If you want your number to go up, you just need to be stronger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 What's the next stat on here? Where did you take this data? So we've got, hold on. So at the very top, we're at 1,700 people total. 85% of them are male. 27% of the males are in the one-ton club over 2,000 pounds. And 20%, you said? 24% of the women.
Starting point is 00:15:22 24% of the women. Yeah, 318 for the males and 46 for the ladies. Interesting. Yeah. That means I think I'm really happy with the number because we did it the very first time with 1,000 pounds for the females, and way too many people were getting in. Like 1,000 was, like, not even close.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And then we did the 1,500 when we were first thinking about what the female number was going to be. And 1,500, we were hanging out with Hunter Elam at Mash's gym. And she was like, she's the best weightlifter in the country right now. She's just won best lifter at USA Weightlifting Nationals. And she was like, oh, I'm only like 20 pounds off. I could get stronger. And we're like, okay, we're backing this down a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's a huge 300 pounds when you're talking about the best weightlifter in the country right now doesn't make it. We're going to bring that down a little bit. Yeah, so for the initial build out of it, I basically pulled all of the statistics from the CrossFit Games website. You know how you can enter your max lifts? And then I did like a distribution from the averages and not a single girl. Like a normal distribution from the average of the CrossFit Games website. And nobody made it. We should have made like a big blog post of like why CrossFit girls aren't strong.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Just straight clickbait even though we have the worst number possible. We just made up the number. Like no girls from USA Weightlifting Nationals are making it. No girls from the CrossFit Games are making it. Because we decided what was strong. That's right, you guys. I'm looking at your spreadsheet you have on your computer right in front of you. For the people that are just sliding in,
Starting point is 00:16:56 the people that got like 2,002 pounds or the ladies that got like 1,201 pounds, they just barely made it in. What are the lifts for each of the individual lifts for the people that just barely skated in on what what are the lifts for each of the individual lifts for the people that just kind of barely skated in on average like what are the minimums that people need to hit for men and women so the uh so for the men if you're just skating in they're around so i'm right now i'm just looking at the first the lowest guy that made it. Okay. Right? And he's at a 445 squat and a 450 deadlift.
Starting point is 00:17:28 He is. Okay. Pretty even for squat and deads for him. Yep. And then. Wait. Where did it go? There we go.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah. So, he's benching 240, but he's strong in the Olympic lifts. Like, he's jerking 315, snatching 237, and cleaning 315. That's really good for those strength numbers. Yeah. Yeah, so then he's up to 2,002 pounds. So he's just sliding in. He must have really short arms.
Starting point is 00:17:53 He doesn't have to move that jerk that far. Jerk 315. Yeah, and I'm surprised. Well, there's a 240 bench and a 315 jerk. So that is quick, powerful. Yeah. Right? That's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And what about ladies? And ladies squatting 290 and deadlifting 297. So that's actually... Also pretty even. Yeah, yeah, which surprises me again because I am the same as you guys is that when I was doing this stuff, my deadlift was significantly more than my back squat. And then benching 132 and jerking 165. I don't really know what women are supposed to be doing.
Starting point is 00:18:28 135 bench is, I think, pretty solid for girls. Doug, I'm looking at you. Well, it depends how big that person is. But, yeah, I mean, if your bench press and your body weight is a female, that's pretty strong. So the average of everyone is 138 of all the women. Minus, I think I filtered out anybody below like 50 pounds or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So that 138. So they're actually below the average of all sign-ups in the bench. Actually, for the averages, we can probably calculate this really quick. Like my deadlift is roughly 500 pounds, which is 25% of 2,000 pounds. So my deadlift is 25% of my score. For these averages, can we quickly calculate what percentage of the total each individual lift is for the averages? So, for example, if we said the women have a 227 average squat, what percentage of that is of 2,000? For them, 1,200.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Yeah. Right, right, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that won't be hard. When you see, when you think about like a power lifter coming in and doing the numbers, well, it wouldn't be for 1,200. It would be for whatever the average total is.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Right? Yeah. Go ahead. When you think about the power lifter coming in and doing this we've seen some power lifters that are really good at like when you get to the top of the leaderboard there's some people that are really really good at the olympic lifts and i wonder often how many people found like we're just because we've been watching we watched west side versus the world of how louis simmons went Simmons went from Olympic lifter into power lifter and how many people going from a power lifting
Starting point is 00:20:10 and now they have to do snatch, clean, and jerk where those lifts are just really, really awkward. There was one guy that we just put on that one of the first people to do the challenge was his power lifts were gigantic and then he cleaned like 185 he snatched 145 but his his other numbers were so it was like 500 500 400 right like the the bench press was really really impressive 400 pound bench is really cool yeah but I didn't see that guy do those lifts but i'm assuming he's doing power cleans and power snatches and power cleans some range of motion issues all back
Starting point is 00:20:50 catching it with the straight wrists like didn't catch it on his shoulders right catching his hands he knew what the movement looked like but there's just such mobility restrictions that getting into those spots was just really really tough right um It's pretty common going from pure powerlifting to trying to do weightlifting. Yeah, but I think it's also a great thing for understanding that people can get on the program and learn the Olympic lifts through MASH's program that we're going to spend tons of time working on positions and finding really how to jump pull yourself under a barbell not just having that that massive uh raw strength side but really working on the athleticism speed that powers people to get um to push this stuff under the or over the 2,000 pound number um the the The average squat of everyone on the board here.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Hold on, Doug. Doug's an Excel wizard. I'm not an Excel. That saves it for ever. Gotta put the dollar signs, there you go. Bam, look at this guy. Yes, there you go. There it is.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Oh, I like it. Oh my gosh, Doug Larson. You, I like it. Oh, my gosh. Doug Larson. There we go. You guys can't see this because we're talking to the statistician over here. Work some magic. What did we just find out? Let's see.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Squat. Here, you can do it, Pitts. Yeah, so for the men, the squat is – so we're getting 22% of their total. And this is for all of the people who've put up on the leaderboard. And then the deadlift is 26%, and then the rest are somewhere in the teens, varying between 15% and 11%. So you're benching 15% of your total, 16% of your total,
Starting point is 00:22:36 and then the lowest is you're snatching only 11% of your total. So you get the most bang for your buck out of squats and deadlifts, obviously. And then your snatch and your bench are snatch is the lowest. And then really bench, jerk, and clean are all kind of the same. They're all right in that 14, 15, 16 range. And that's the same for women. It's about the exact same ratios for women. The bench, jerk, and the clean are hanging in the teens.
Starting point is 00:23:02 12% for the snatch versus 11% for the men. And then the deadlift and the squat, you know, definitely high. Oh, wow. 50% actually. I thought there might have been a bigger discrepancy, like with the slightly lower percentage on bench press and a slightly higher percentage on squatting for ladies, but that doesn't look like it's the case.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Well, it's a little, I mean, like, we're talking 1% difference, right? Right. So you're 15 to 14 lower on the bench, and 1% higher on the squat for your percentage. So maybe that just kind of flips there. Yeah, their jerk percentage is a little higher than guys, and their snatch percentage is a little higher than the guys.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Clean percentage is a little higher than the guys. Killing the weightlifting, ladies. Yeah. We're going to make sure we have all these infographics up on the social media so you can follow along with them. Doug's going to make you some beautiful little images so we can put this stuff together. So good at graphic design. You really are.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Who knew you were an expert in movement mechanics and keynote. And keynote graphic design. That's what all the real graphic designers use. They use keynote. You find your tool and hammer it. Like, you want to use Adobe anything? I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And looking at these numbers, though, do you think that this would change your approach on the one-ton weekend? I want to talk about how these numbers kind of play into building a training system, but do you think that now knowing that you need at least call it 25 percent of your lift or 50 percent of your total needs to be in your squat and your deadlift yeah more or less yeah how are you going to change the way you approach doing the one ton weekend or taking this challenge on to find what your total is well we we very intentionally wanted the squat cycle to be the first cycle in the training program yeah like really focusing on on raw strength especially like leg strength vertical
Starting point is 00:24:49 torso strength that way once you get once you max out on the squat after the first eight week block and then you move into to snatching and cleaning and whatnot you have that like that big base of strength yeah so you can maximize your snatch and your clean and then at the very end before the one-ton weekend the very last cycle is the deadlift, which is like the most brutally just raw, raw, raw strength moving out of all of them. That way you're kind of peaking at the end with raw strength after the whole cycle is over. And then you have a four-week block to kind of taper for the one-ton weekend. What is the average squat throughout all 1,500 males?
Starting point is 00:25:26 Is that what that males? 373. That's a lot of weight. Are you surprised by that? 373 for the squat? Yeah, like the average person that is interested in weightlifting understands squat, deadlift, bench,
Starting point is 00:25:42 snatch, clean jerk, squats 375 pounds. That's a lot of weight. That took me a really long time, I feel like, to squat 375. I would have guessed that the average strength of somebody that lifts weight is somebody like a 275-pound squat. Yeah, so we're talking about the average of everybody. So this is the average for everyone who submitted,
Starting point is 00:26:04 and then that's the average total. 1,677 is the average total for everyone who's submitting. So if we're talking about, well, this one went into percentage. I don't know what's going on there. But it's a different stat than the average of people who qualified. But, yeah, the 3,473 is everyone. Everyone involved. That seems pretty high for only having it.
Starting point is 00:26:24 It's really high. For the average total being right around 1,700 and the squats at 373? Yeah, like generally speaking, so we're at the Granite Games right now. If you walked out
Starting point is 00:26:32 onto the floor and put all the guys together through all the divisions and 375 pounds is the average squat out here. That's crazy to me. We are a fit-ass group of of people i would have assumed it was like 250 to 275 that would have been my general like everyone can squat 225 relatively easy
Starting point is 00:26:55 like just a little bit of training a little bit of understanding movement technique stuff like that yeah but 275 means you've been squatting to me for like three years yeah i would have said 300 would have been my guess for um when we get into what do you think the deadlift is oh shit i just looked i cheated should pick a different one it's like college it's like college i cheated sorry i looked at the answers i had the answer key um snatchatch for males, my guess, on average, our audience snatches 197.6 pounds. That sounds heavy. It does sound heavy.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Did you see the number two? No. Wait, did I get it right? No. Oh, I was going to say holy crap. What do you think it is? I was going to say 185. Doug wins. 186 crap. You're close. What do you think it is? I was going to say 185. Doug wins.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Oh. 186. Wow. So close. See, we need to change the plate colors because everybody just wants to put the blue and the green on because that's the minimum. That's the training program, right? You just put two blues on and tell yourself it's the 185. Well, we talked about that in the snatch show that we did of like putting 225 on
Starting point is 00:28:05 the bar is not just like snatching 225 it's like you have to address the bar and there's two blue plates on there now and it's really intimidating for at least three months just to get over the fact that like you got to get strong enough to like really be confident stand over that thing knowing that you're going to chuck these giant things over your head. It does seem to be different to have two blues versus. It's intimidating as hell if you've never done it. It's super intimidating. I remember the very first time I snatched 225.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I caught it on one knee. And I was like, oh, God, do I stand this up now? Like, this is embarrassing. I wish I didn't even do this. Hey, people have gone to the games with that much. Jeremy Kinnick, where you at, buddy? I hope he's listening. I wish I didn't even do this. Hey, people have gone to the games with that much. Jeremy Kinnick, where you at, buddy? I hope he's listening. I hope he's listening.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He did go to the games and snatch 225 on his knee. Everybody loved that. They've done studies where they've covered up the weights. You can't see the weights that are on the bar. It's like put a big plastic bag over the end of the bar so you can't see what's on there. And then you just pick it up and do it. And they'll add a little more and you don't see what they add and then they're like okay it's you know a little more and you go all right put on your back kind of feel it and they're just like
Starting point is 00:29:10 okay i think i can do that and you do it and people smash their prs because they don't they don't have that like oh i can't do 315 thing going through their head i've never been able to do that too heavy i feel like 400 pounds to me would still feel like a shit ton i wouldn't know i'd be like oh that's four yep Yep, that hurts. Barely get my feet off the ground. I can't breathe. That was hard to get it off the pens. Alright, let's play the
Starting point is 00:29:33 guessing game. What do we got? Bench press. Doug Larson. The average for bench press? Average bench press. 250. Oh, that's big. I want to say, oh man man, that's good, though. The squat number really messed me up because I think everybody's stronger than they probably are now.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I'll go 235. You both are low, actually. Whoa. Yeah, we're at 265. Stop it. What do you think it is? We've got a strong group of people. 265. Stop it. What do you think it is? We got a strong group of people. 265?
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's what I did with Amy Hugh the other day. And it was heavy as shit. Doug walked up to me. Doug walked up to me. She weighs 130 and benched 265 on just like a random day. We filmed a video with her. She's like, oh yeah, I benched double bodyweight today.
Starting point is 00:30:24 She benched 265 and I was like, fuck, I got to go bench 265 now. So I, like, get under there, and I'm trying to do it like power lifter, like get my nipples as close to the bar as possible, so I just barely tap. And then I'm, like, pushing it up, and I'm like, fuck. I'm dying. Doug walks over to me as soon as we're done filming. He's like, just to let you know, your 1RM looked a lot harder than her 1RM.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yours looked like a true 1RM. She looked like she was training. Well, that's because she's the best in the world. And I've only got her outweighed by 50 pounds. I saw this video the other day of this guy that, like, he must be, like, a contortionist or something. He got on the bench and his butt was almost touching his neck. He was like, he was just so bowed where his chest was stuck up so high. And then he grabbed really, really wide.
Starting point is 00:31:17 The bar went about an inch. He barely bent his elbows and then straightened them. And good lift. Like 700 pounds or something. Insane. He probably weighed only like 120 though. He was so tiny. Yeah, he was folding right now. He just stands on his elbows and then straightens them and they go lift. Like 700 pounds or something. Insane. He probably weighed only like 120 though. He was so tiny.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, he was folding right in half backwards. You would have to be pretty thin to touch the back of your neck to your butt. Right. Are you gaining strength that way or are you just getting your chest closer to the bar? You're playing the game. Well, I mean, in some ways you are gaining strength because now you're pressing at a decline.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Okay. Now you're pressing down as opposed to out. You can always decline bench more than you can regular bench more than you can incline bench more than you can overhead press. But then the range of motion is so radically short. You just barely crack your elbow away from straight and then straighten it back out. Gosh.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Good for him. Yeah. We are joined by a real celebrity over here, Hunter McIntyre, going to the CrossFit Games drinking an RX, Good for him. Yeah, we are joined by a real celebrity over here, Hunter McIntyre, going to the CrossFit Games drinking an RX FitAid, something with a really expensive camera. If you're too fatigued from carrying around that monster camera. Not only is Hunter McIntyre joining us in the studio today, but he's in a place that he's never been before,
Starting point is 00:32:22 which is 13th on the leaderboard. Congratulations, sir. Your CrossFit career has really taken off. I think we're probably around 25th place. Last time Hunter was in 25th place. Strength numbers, averages, all kinds of fun stuff. I wish we had another microphone set up. I'd throw you on here right now. No, do you want to hop up. I'd throw you on here right now. No, do you want to hop on? Yeah, hop on.
Starting point is 00:32:47 No, no, no. Stay on. Just hit pause here real quick. Yeah, I'll pause it and put it on another mic. You'll love this show. There it is. All right, good to go, Hunter McIntyre. We are back.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We took a little break. We picked up Hunter McIntyre. CrossFit Games athlete, the blowhard card. No big deal. No big deal. We're going to do a full show with him a little bit later today. But right now, getting back into the stats, we need your honest opinion of, if you think about the averages that we're running here,
Starting point is 00:33:11 if you were to walk out onto this floor, bring all the competitors into the middle and say, what is the average male squat in this group right now? What number do you think it is? Amongst elites? No, no, no, no, no. All the people, because that's pretty much what the leaderboard is. We've got 1,700 people on it that we've run all the averages, all the numbers. 235.
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Starting point is 00:35:28 back to the show. Yeah. No, God, what was it? 73. There's no fucking way. It's just not true.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, that's not true. And maybe amongst people who posted it. Well, it's not actually for people that are at the Granite Games. He's talking about all the people that intentionally opted in to the leaderboard for the one-ton challenge. It's a different group.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You're going to want it. I thought you were just like, if I literally cast a net over everybody. That's kind of how I feel like our leaderboard has taken shape. It's people that are interested in strength, which is this group. It's people that are probably in the CrossFit powerlifting, Olympic weightlifting space they know what the lifts are and they've taken the time to go out of their way to see where they stack up which is basically what's happening out here on the competition floor so it's it's i would
Starting point is 00:36:15 say that this is like a pretty our leaderboard probably represents what's going on at the games on a strength basis only very well i suck at squat, and I'm 375 to 395 on any given day. And I suck at squatting. I think that that number is really high. I worked super hard to get that. Yeah. What do you think? Well, you had to do a bunch of, yeah, I don't know how long.
Starting point is 00:36:38 It would be nice if we had how long each person has been doing these lifts. What do you think the deadlift is? I mean, based on what you just told me, I'm going to say probably like 445. Yeah, that's about right. 437. Yeah, but if you went to a CrossFit gym, you'd be hard to crack the average male member
Starting point is 00:36:59 to break over like 355 to 365. Yeah, because the majority of them are probably 35 to 40 years old at this point. If you think about it, if you went out into this crowd right now and you picked everybody who was not competing, and they all are CrossFit advocates, that's why they're probably here, and you put them into the system, you'd probably have to shave almost 100 pounds off all the averages
Starting point is 00:37:18 you're looking at now. But these are all bros who are on their fitness accounts and stuff, and when you post that up, they're probably like avid followers of your guys. And they're putting in maybe inflated numbers as well. Oh. Calling you out, folks. No way. Hunter McIntyre had an opinion.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, actually, on that note, Mr. Greg Pitts, you can comment on this. We're making a place for everyone in everyone's profile where they can put videos of all their lifts. Then we can potentially upvote them and downvote them in the future. For sure. Yeah, that's right. So you'll be able to embed. Give them that blue check on Instagram. Some people are going to film some of their things
Starting point is 00:37:53 and post it up, and then they probably would not bring up other ones. But what's your back squat? My current? Yeah. Or best? Current. I haven't max back squatted in probably two years.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Just give me a hint. But, yeah, I'd imagine at this point it's probably high threes. High threes. Yours? High threes. Same, high threes. Okay. And you guys all are in the gym.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's why we hang out together. You guys all chase fitness mega hard. Yeah, we're over 20 years of – the first time I squatted 315 I was 17 years old. I bet you the average of people are posting right now in this room is five years or less. Everybody who posts on this is 10 years plus. Whoa. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You think? I think there's a filter for strength on the leaderboard. And then even here, I've seen a lot of younger people here at the Grander Games. And, you know, a lot of people who are new into CrossFit get really excited about coming to the competition. Yeah. And, you know, if there's the selective filter for strength where there's no Metcons and it's advertised as like, hey, this is the event where you don't have to do that stuff, then there is a selective filter to prefer strength.
Starting point is 00:38:56 What do you think? What's your bench press right now? 295, maybe three. What was the average? 65. 265, yeah. That's a big bench press. Bench is so much fun.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You think? Yeah, I love it. So when I was training for OCR, I used power racks. Power rack bench press is so much fun. When I'm training for OCR, I do almost all power rack work because I don't want to have extra range of motion that's going to either hurt me or make me more sore. And I would superset weighted chin-ups with power rack about maybe 6 to 12 inch from chest
Starting point is 00:39:33 height and do a lot of power from there. Just get a lot of muscle recruitment on super, super heavy weight. And I love it. And that's a super fast way to get your bench press up. Yeah. You're doing the equivalent of like a floor press or like a board press. So it's not full touching your chest range of motion. You're just limiting it a little bit to save your bench press up. Yeah. You're doing the equivalent of like a floor press or like a board press. Yeah. So it's not full touching your chest range of motion. You're just limiting it a little bit to save your shoulders, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I learned from Louie a long time ago, and I also learned from a lot of the running coaches that I worked with. Like, you know, if you look at all the strength training coaches for running and you take like basically what the sprinting coaches do, and then you just pull back on some of the numbers and the amount of volume they do, and then you apply it to distance running, you find out that doing negatives and things like that are too dangerous and they're doing you can watch like 800 meter runners dude will put like 350 on their back high twos to 350 and they'll just do quarter squats like super
Starting point is 00:40:14 explosive quarter squats and it just gives them that extra power and torque for when you're out there just hauling ass yeah you do the same thing for running they don't need a whole lot of explosion out of the blocks really if you're running 800 it's like yeah i, you go fast, but it's not like you're running 100 meters. You're not, like, blowing out of the water right out of the blocks. So you don't need that full range of motion the same way that you do if you're someone who has a short sprint to do. I also think that squat is not actually the greatest movement in the world. I think unless you're a CrossFitter or a powerlifter or an Olympic weightlifter,
Starting point is 00:40:43 you'd probably find a lot of the professional strength training coaches in the world, at least for sport, that they don't really put that much of an emphasis on it. Like I know some people like Explosive Mechanics is a guy I follow. He really loves doing the box squats for people, but the likelihood that you're going to injure yourself and also that, that kind of positioning, you're not going to find that in sport. You're going to do single leg squats, things like that. You're going to do trap bar deadlift. It's just a healthier position and a better position for athletes. Depends upon, yeah, I mean, if CrossFit is your sport,
Starting point is 00:41:11 standing on two legs all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the Boyle argument. He hates the bilateral squat and doesn't talk about it. But if you're a strength athlete, you better be on two legs. What's the most surprising number for you guys on this platform? So far, the squat number that it's that high. It's a bunch of BS.
Starting point is 00:41:29 We haven't even gotten through all the numbers. What's next? We got clean. Clean. What do you think the average clean is of all the people? Shoot. It's probably going to be 255. I was thinking 275.
Starting point is 00:41:40 What's your guess? I was thinking higher than that, yeah. I'll go in the middle. 265. 265. What's your guess? I was thinking higher than that, yeah. I'll go in the middle. 265. 265. We got 250. Dang right, your boy takes a go. 250.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That seems so low if the squat number is that high. That's what I'm trying to say. There must be some just we must have found a lot of not a lot, but there must be. I wonder if it's being skewed towards powerlifting just because powerlifting is everyone's done those three versus not everyone has done snatch clean jerk. The other, the other thing that could be happening is that we have some squats that are like 800. Yeah. Right. And there's no cleans that are 800. So those could be pulling the average
Starting point is 00:42:20 up a lot. Whereas all of the cleans are kind of clustering around the same and we can do analysis on this too. Right. But they're kind of clustering around the same, and we can do analysis on this too, but they're kind of clustering around the same. Do you have the peak numbers for each movement? Yeah, I want to hear that, because the squats are going to be like 700 or something like that, but cleans and snatches are not going to be... You know what I think would be a funny test?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Please add strict pull-up in here. I know it's not part of the one-ton challenge, but all these chicks that I'm competing against that can out-pull up me in, like, butterfly pull-ups and all this other bull crap, I bet you most of them can't break 12 to 14 pull-ups. You have, like, a test in your gym of, like, the handboard. Yeah, I've got the He-Man pull-up challenge. Dude, that's an awesome one.
Starting point is 00:42:59 You know who freaking blew my mind just now with pull-ups? I just had Martins, one of the top strongmen in the world. I think he took second at Arnold and third at World's Strongest Man last year. That dude, I have this finger block pull-up where it's basically like, imagine if you took a 2x4 and made it steel, and then you hang it from the bar and you can only squeeze it like this. This dude who's 345 pounds is repping out on that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I barely know anybody who can do those things for a couple reps. He's doing it that way. But here's a challenge for anybody. It's called the He-Man Challenge. Any kind of pull-up you want has to be strict. 50 pounds hanging from your hip. You have to hit 15 to be He-Man. Whoa. Without falling from the bar? No. My best is 16.
Starting point is 00:43:37 If I want to get in shape, I start cranking it at that. I always hold 10 to 13 throughout the season, but if you want to break through those numbers, that's easy. I did my first Spartanan last year in the world championships i just qualified they just gave me an invite to the worlds that's right wildcard baby there was a podcaster wildcard that guy that guy sounds like he's in shape we'll give him a talk to the game and i've always watched your training and then when i got out to Spartan I was like wow I have to climb this
Starting point is 00:44:07 rope and it's soaking wet and then I have to go across now I know why you do so many of the things you do it's a game changer dude when I was in the CrossFit space training for that it was better to be able to do 50 plus butterfly pull ups than 15 strict
Starting point is 00:44:22 so you just practice the you play the game. I do lots of isometric pull-ups. Yeah. Like pull, hold two seconds on top, come down two seconds, back down. Yeah. Frenzy pull-ups is such an amazing way to build like posterior chain. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:35 If you start doing isometric pull-ups, you can make your regular pull-ups bump up like 50% pretty quick. One thing that's interesting about that clean number being that high though, I feel like they're at that number if i was to take somebody that cleans like 250 245 was the number there's a lot of technique problems in there like i would say that if your technique is inside like 90 of perfect and the goal is just to get stronger you should be able to clean 275 like there's that gap in there i think is a technique gap, where if the number was, like, squatting,
Starting point is 00:45:07 most people don't need to clean up their squatting form, which may be why it's so much higher. Like, the deadlift is so high because, well, any dummy can go pick something up off the ground. Yes, there's a lot of technique, but mainly just bend over and pick the shit up. But when it comes to clean, and we'll see on the snatch as well, like, there's such a massive technique piece to understanding.
Starting point is 00:45:29 If everybody had good enough technique, I think that number would be like 275, 285. Well, that's interesting, the correlation we talked about earlier, right? Because if you start to see that all of these people in the 250 range might be ranging up really high in the squat, then you automatically know, right? It's because they have, like, you're jumping wide when you're cleaning and doing a power clean instead of a squat clean, things like that. The biggest thing that gave me a bump this season,
Starting point is 00:45:53 outside of, like, having to increase strength to actually hit these numbers, was just doing cleans and snatches up against the wall with a barbell or a PVC pipe. Because for me, I'm always this person who still has this problem where i hit smash the bar and i push out rather than up so you just keep on getting closer and closer to the wall or like take a squat rack and try to get like up keep on hiking yourself up the closer you can keep that bar to yourself like i just keep on catching here and then going like this because it's slipping in front of me and with my snatch i catch it like here instead of here if you can do that you can basically take that 375 374
Starting point is 00:46:29 and then kind of just start to bring the average between those things and you're clean try to clean it up because you know if you have the squat clean technique then you should be able to push it way up did you did you learn the clean easier than the snatch well the thing was is i was always pretty gosh darn, like I always felt a lot more comfortable with the clean because it's just like something that I would never snatch. So I've cleaned a lot more in my life. And my clean numbers like bumped up really quickly. But then my snatch way outgrew my like the increase of my clean because now my problem is getting in the hole. Like I'm stuck around 295 on my squat clean because I just don't have that explosive power to get out of the hole.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Like my front squat is 315, 325 the best, and I don't have that power to get out. Now I'm getting 245 overhead in my snatch, and the problem is it's only my lockout rather than the squat. Yeah. So from – 325 looked good yesterday. Yeah, So from – 225 looked good yesterday. Yeah, it felt good.
Starting point is 00:47:25 It felt good. Now I think just the thing for me is going to be able to hold capacity and hold positioning. I'm not going to be able to add more than five pounds to anything strength-wise, I think, between now maybe five, ten pounds on anything. So I'm going to go through a deadlift cycle, and I'm just going to try to get some really good coaches to keep eyes on me. Grow your back more.
Starting point is 00:47:44 You do any pause front squats? Yeah, I do. Pause all the way to the bottom? Yeah. You know what gave me more than anything? Pause is, like, helpful and feels good, but I just – Adrian Conway, the, you know, affiliate cup champion, told me to start doing clusters.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And my capacity for squats went fucking sky high. Yeah. Now I can put 315 on my back and just all day up and down, just dun, dun, dun, dun. And I think that's what CrossFit is. Like, you know, just practice. You know, we just did a workout, run, handstand push-ups, and then 20 front squats and 185. That's the person who's not the strongest.
Starting point is 00:48:18 It's the person who just likes suffering. Yeah. Uncomfortable. That weight sucks. Yeah. What's next? What do we got? Snatch. Yeah, snatch. This will be interesting. Icomfortable. That weight sucks. Yeah. What's next? What do we got? Snatch.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You got it. Yeah, snatch. This will be interesting. I wonder what you guys think. What's your guess on what's the average snatch of all the people? Yeah, cool. Thanks for having me on, guys. We'll be back.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Peace and out. We'll be back. Cool. I'd say snatch is probably really similar to bench press. The bench was – no, no, no. Excuse me. That's not going to be right. The bench was high. The bench was much higher than I thought it was going to be. Again, I think those powerlifting numbers are a little bit inflated because we've got some guys that had
Starting point is 00:48:52 big 700-pound squats and 500-pound benches or whatever it is, so those numbers are artificially high. I'd say snatch. Did we already do this? No, you guys didn't guess one. I'd say snatch for Did we already do this? No, you guys didn't guess one. I'd say snatch for guys is right around.
Starting point is 00:49:08 No, we did. It's like 175. It was like 185, wasn't it? It was 185, yeah. Yeah. We did that one? We did that one, yeah. Okay, what about jerk?
Starting point is 00:49:15 That's the one we have not on. Jerk. It's going to be similar to clean, maybe a little higher. 260, two and a higher. 260. Two and a half. Whoa. Two and a half. I want to go 275 just because it looks green.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Go blue, blue, green. Way lower. Lower. 241. Whoa. 241. Listen up, people. You got to get stronger. What do you think of the people who have qualified, though?
Starting point is 00:49:40 So if you are in the one-ton club. Have we gone through those numbers yet? We have not. We have not gone through those numbers we have not we've not gone through those we'll go back through those because i want to know what the averages of those people yo if you're do you remember like many many many years ago how i could clean 300 pounds but couldn't jerk 245 yeah what a disaster oh my overhead was so terrible was that all i had to hire a coach to teach me how to jerk like Like the clean and the snatch, pulling from the floor,
Starting point is 00:50:06 and just there was something about that that always made sense to me. Like on day one of learning how to clean, I think I used to do like hang clean and press for like shoulder and like back day kind of when I was doing like bodybuilding type routines. So it just made sense that i could pull under the bar it was like as a relatively athletic human i understood how to do that but something about the dip in the drive and going overhead like i had never really played an overhead sport or anything and it was a disaster i could clean 300 pounds like in i want to say i was like i opened the gym when i was 27 when i was 28 29
Starting point is 00:50:47 300 pound clean wasn't that big of a deal to me but i mean the most i've ever cleaned 318 so it's not like it went astronomically more than that but um the yeah i could clean 300 and then i'd put it on my shoulders and the dip and drive was just a fucking disaster. Like, it was a mess. And it would be so frustrating because, like, I never – I just, like, stopped training my clean because it was like, what's the point? I can't put it over my head, even close. But I hired a coach for summer, and then just slowly, slowly, slowly
Starting point is 00:51:22 until those numbers matched at 315. That was like – when I cleaned and jerked 315, I was like, holy shit, we've come so far. I feel amazing. This is incredible. And now when I deadlift 315, I feel like I'm going to die. Yeah. I don't know how that ever went over my head. How was I so angry one day that I was able to focus my aggression
Starting point is 00:51:43 to put 315 pounds over my head? That's mind-boggling. I was almost angry one day that I was able to focus my aggression to put 315 pounds over my head. That's mind-boggling. I was always the opposite. Like, if I could get on my shoulders, I could jerk it, no problem. Yeah, well, I've actually seen you. I mean, I trained with you, Pitt, so many times. Your overhead is, like, crazy strong. Like, that little pop.
Starting point is 00:51:59 You were always, like, the day you walked in, I think you power cleaned 275, and we were like, oh, we need to brainwash him. Bring that guy in. We should make him a coach. We'll pay him to be here. Since I was 12, we were doing Olympic lifts since I was 12 in our football program. So I had a long 10 years when I walked in your gym, and he actually knew how to coach.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, that's the same with Doug. I mean, I never had anybody doing any overhead work like that. It was always military press, which is basically more or less incline press. Yeah. He had a great coach since I was 14, early high school. Yeah. With one of the big stuff. Who learned from Bergner.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah. But were you always weak in the pull? So I've always been weak in the pull-up because we trained explosive outward, explosive punch, like, inside and then above our heads. But my pull-ups have always, always been terrible. No, because I did gymnastics when I was a little kid for years. And so I went from gymnastics straight into weightlifting. And so CrossFit just made sense to its combination of gymnastics and weightlifting.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And then I got exercise science degrees and CrossFit became a thing, and I was like, well, this is fucking rad. Well, now you just get to teach the six lifts, which is better. What's the next one? Did we get through all six? We haven't done any women's scores. I want to see if you guys have any idea what those ones are. We're sorry, 15% of you guys out there right now, this is going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:53:28 What do you think the best squat is for a female? A 300-pound squat for a female is a big number. No, no, no, like the average. A 300-pound squat is a lot for a female. It is. I'm going to say 185. For the average squat? 200. It's big. Is it really? It's five. For the average squat? 200.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It's big. Is it really? It's big. You guys are going to be surprised again. 227. Okay. Sorry. These people have not got a 1,200-pound total.
Starting point is 00:53:56 This is the above. This is the 300 people, the 300 ladies that are, what's your squat? What's your best squat? 242. So she's above. So this is anyone who entered above a 135. You want to play the game?
Starting point is 00:54:12 Here you go. Come on in. You're going to play the game. Here we go. You are on barbell shrug right now. You're going to be so famous. Do you want me to hold that? All right.
Starting point is 00:54:22 You're the expert lady. Have you ever been on barbell shrug before? Yeah, me neither. What's your you're the expert lady. Have you ever been on Barbell Shrugged before? Yeah, me neither. Sweet. What's your name? Brooklyn. Brooklyn. What a phenomenal name.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Thanks. Are you amazed at how good this sounds in your ears? Yeah. Yeah. Usually it's just in your car, right? Right. Very, very soothing to the soul when you hear this raspy voice come into your life. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Do you listen to Barbell Shrugged? I have never. Gosh. You're supposed to say yes. Lord. Well, now you're – we got one more. Barbell. Okay.? I have never. Gosh. You're supposed to say yes. We got one more barbell. Okay. We're derailed already.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I was playing off of her comment. So we run a program, a challenge, that is also a training program called the One Ton Challenge. And the goal is to take your squat, deadlift, and bench press, snatch, clean and jerk, not clean and jerk, clean, comma, and jerk, total them up, and you're going to try to have a one-ton total of over 1,200 pounds. Does that make sense? Kind of, sort of? I don't do math. Yeah, you don't have to do the math right now, but we have taken, we have 1,700 people signed up for this, and we have taken the numbers, and male and female, and now we're going through the averages of what you think
Starting point is 00:55:33 the normal strength numbers are for females. So what do you think the average squat is for the people that are on that are in this challenge. In a way, if you think about putting all the people that are competing and in the stands into this arena here and saying, like I just did to you, what is your back squat?
Starting point is 00:55:57 What do you think the average is? Most CrossFit ladies are pretty strong. I'd say maybe 210. Ooh, 225, right? 225. 225, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That's close. You were way, we were way lower than you guys. So you're way, you're way more dialed in. That's how you got on barbell shrugged, actually. You were the expert. You passed the test. Closest female expert. Um, deadlift.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Let's talk about it. You want the number first? Oh, no. What do you think the deadlift is? Sorry. Oh, the female expert. Deadlift. Let's talk about it. You want the number first? Oh, no. What do you think the deadlift is? Sorry. Oh, the average deadlift? Yeah. I could probably add another 100 to that, so 280.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Ooh. I'm going to go, damn, that's a good number. And you sounded so confident saying that. Man, I'll go 250. 250. That's what I said. 272. Damn. That's what I said. 272. Damn.
Starting point is 00:56:47 You're good. All right. God, killer. All right. Bent press. Bent press. I'm going to say 135. Lady bent press?
Starting point is 00:56:56 135. That's like the body weight. Oh, gosh. I can't do body weight. I could probably do, and I'm pretty average, so I'd probably say 120. Ooh. Doug Larson, you said your back squat was what? Way less than.
Starting point is 00:57:12 No, no, no. What was your back squat? I know. She's like, I don't want to say it. Her back squat was like 240. It was 240, right? So you're thinking bench press is roughly half of that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:21 And the back squat, what was the back squat we said? 270? 270. Yeah, but I mean, you guys guessed way high. But yeah. Yeah. OK, I'll say half of that. 135.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, 138. 38. Close. Ding, ding, ding, ding. The price is right. Get stronger. Yeah. We have a program for that.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Oh, yeah, I bet. Right on. Clean. Oh. What do you think the average is? What's your best clean? My best clean is 145. 145.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Doug Larson, what do you think the average is of all the people? For the ladies? Probably right around there. I'm pretty average. How dare you say that? I like to think of myself as pretty average. I'm a pretty average CrossFitter. I'm really strong amongst all my friends at home. Slightly above average. I'm a pretty average CrossFitter. I'm a really strong amongst all my friends at home. Slightly above
Starting point is 00:58:06 average. I'm way stronger than all my friends. Put the slightly above before the average. Slightly above average. Then there's no... You're a little bit above. I'm stronger than my husband. That's out in public. Do you want to say his name? No. If I was him, I wouldn't want you to either.
Starting point is 00:58:21 He would never listen to this anymore. How dare him? He listens to, like, fishing podcasts. He knows how to. He'd be a better fisher if he was in the one-punch club. Cleans, let's say 145. Man, that's a good guess. That was my guess.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I'm going to go 146. We're on the same page over here. Price is right. Bastion, 146. And as you win, 161. One pound. One pound. They're 161. 161. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Nice. We need to get Danny Spiegel on here. We totally do. Missing the jerk and the snatch. Because then she's going to totally jack the numbers up. Your friend is anxiously awaiting you. We have two left. She's like, how did you end up on this show?
Starting point is 00:59:05 She's super famous right now. You just know people. All right. What do we got? What's the next one? Jerk. Jerk. What is it?
Starting point is 00:59:10 What's yours? 125. All right. So we have an average to go. You're slightly above average. Maybe. All right. So what do you got?
Starting point is 00:59:20 Would you like some focus here? No. Oh, it's empty. Sorry. Go ahead. What did I just say? 125? 125.
Starting point is 00:59:25 What's your jerk? Would you like some focus hit? No. Oh, it's empty. Sorry. No. Go ahead. No. What did I just say? 125? Yeah. What's your jerk? Yeah, 125. OK. What's the average of all the people, since you're slightly above average? Oh, 122 and 1 1. Ooh. Doug Larson, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm going to go 135. You also think it'd be a little higher than that, too. 130. Yeah. You have 157. Whoa. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. Wow. Wow. Strong ladies. Uh-huh. 20 pounds above the bench. 115's her max. Well, both you guys need to get stronger, just saying.
Starting point is 00:59:53 What's the next one? Snatch. Snatch. What you got? What you got? What you got? Oh, 100. I'm so afraid of the bar.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Don't be scared. It's just metal. It's only going to land on the top of your head. Yeah. Hurt a little bit. Done that before. Yeah. At Nationals. It's only going to land on the top of your head, hurt a little bit. Done that before. Yeah, at nationals.
Starting point is 01:00:08 At the Arnold. Yeah, at the Arnold, not nationals. Snatch? I'm going to say 120. I'd say 145. I was going to say 125. Actually, yeah. Now that I've been low for a few, I'm going to go higher, 135.
Starting point is 01:00:21 135, I'm going to say 125. Yeah, I'd say average, though, is probably, yeah, 130. Dog, you had it. 120.31. Wow. I had it. Wow. I should have learned not to do that. Was that the last one?
Starting point is 01:00:32 That was the last one. That was the last one. Right on. Welcome to Barbell Shrug. If you don't download this episode now, I don't even know what to say. It's going to come out this Wednesday. Yeah. Is there anything you'd like to tell the people about yourself? There's only going to be, like, tens of thousands of people that listen to this. Oh, my gosh. I don't know what to say. It's going to come out this Wednesday. Yeah. Is there anything you'd like to tell the people about yourself?
Starting point is 01:00:45 There's only going to be like tens of thousands of people that listen to this. Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Did you know you were talking to that many people right now? No. Yeah. Right on their commute to work. Yay.
Starting point is 01:00:54 You're going to leave here and be like, oh, my gosh. I'm going to be so famous. I did it. I'm slightly above average, and I made it. You can follow me on Instagram, Becoming Brooklyn. Becoming Brooklyn. That's a great Instagram handle. It is. Phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:01:06 What lift are you going to improve by the next time we see you? Snatch. Snatch. Was it very terrifying getting over 100 pounds? It was during a competition. So you weren't really thinking. You were just going balls to the walls. No, I just go for it. Yeah. Phenomenal. Well, I'm very happy
Starting point is 01:01:22 you got a fit aid while we were recording this and going through the averages because we needed a female to talk about the females. What's your current training? What does your current training look like? Five to six days a week. Just a regular CrossFit class. I love it. What are you doing here at the Grand of Games?
Starting point is 01:01:38 We are watching Blacklisted HQ. Blacklisted HQ. Yep. Our buddy Nate Dietzenbach. Are they really blacklisted? I don't know. Maybe. BlacklistedHQ. I know what they do. Behind the scenes. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Tell your friend thank you for... Make sure you get double fit aid for sitting here and listening to us ramble about nothing. Thank you. What was it? Becoming Brooklyn? Check her out. Check her out, friends. What's the next stat that we got here? Thank you. What was it? Becoming Brooklyn? Check her out. Check her out, friends. What's the next stat that we got here?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Right on. Thank you. Thank you so much. So we can talk about what we think about the people who are qualified. So anyone who's in the one-ton club. Oh, yeah. And maybe the differences in the averages. So what the averages of the totals are. We have that information.
Starting point is 01:02:23 So where people need to get better. Are there specific lifts that are lower in the differences? I'm sure there's some variations, but I think I would have to go back and analyze that and see, you know, are people who are in the one-ton club proportionally stronger in certain lifts versus others? That would be interesting to know yeah uh right on what's the to get into the one-ton club what is the average squat that you need well the average squat of the people in the club yes yeah so that you're at 291 oh sorry that's just for women i gotta switch back to the men. You want to do women first? Yeah. No, let's go men. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Let's talk to 85%. Then we'll go back. So if you are qualified for the one-ton club, then you have a 4. You're back squatting 485. I am not even remotely close to that. That is a massive number. Is that the mean? That's the mean, right?
Starting point is 01:03:23 So we have. So what's the number? I'm guessing. Yeah, so what do you think is like a ridiculous number? I think 45 is ridiculous. I've never even walked that off of pens before. So we have at least 100 people at above 515. And then we've got above 600 looks like it's around 20 people.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Wow. And above 700 is nine people. Everyone above 515, what are they snatching? Are they still on the twos? Let's see. Snatch is this column. Yeah, there's a lot still on the twos. So there's like a 605 back squat and a 205 snatch.
Starting point is 01:04:04 A 176 with a 563 back squat and a 2.05 snatch. A 1.76 with a 5.63 back squat. Yeah, so those people are just taking a bar and trying to put it. That's all muscle snatch with 1.76. Or it's like we can slice this data more, right? So some of these are disproportionately low. Like I don't know how you can back squat. If you're back squatting 540 and then your snatch is 105, I don't know if that's...
Starting point is 01:04:30 You could just lift. You should be able to lift the weight above your head. Yeah. You can either lift something or nothing. Yeah. And if it's something and you can squat 500 pounds, then it's more than 105. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:43 So there's more filtering. The real key here is just maxing out your squat and your deadlifts. You've got the big lifts. They're going to be half your score, maybe more. If you can max those out, that's your best chance. Yeah. And then everything else will follow. Yeah. You need to be – what have we been talking about nonstop in this entire
Starting point is 01:05:00 program, how to get people really freaking strong? Yeah, strength is the key. Strength is the number one thing that matters. Right on. What else have we got in here that we need to go over before we – what other stats have we run? So we got all the – we got – what do you think people are snatching in the one ton? In the club, what are they snatching?
Starting point is 01:05:20 225. I think you have to hit 225 or 100 kilos, 220. Yeah, so they're at 238 That number, yeah that's crazy I would have 100% If you can't snatch 225 Generally speaking We're not friends
Starting point is 01:05:36 I'm just joking I don't trust you I think 225 is like Strong people Can get to 225. Like if you put the work in, 225, 100 kilos is the number. It's two blues. Two blues. There you go.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Two blues. You build that confidence. Right on. What else? For now, I mean, let's see. We've got some people of interest. I mean, we can go over the top lifts of each. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 You want to do that? I would love to know what the very, very high end of all of these is. Okay. So for the men, I mean, the men are squatting. There's the 750 is the high one. The high for the snatch is 500. And the next one is 352. So maybe that one.
Starting point is 01:06:24 That one's definitely not. that okay that's a fake person i'm assuming that's not a legit lift it very well could be well look their squat is low so we need to squat 225 that that those aren't real numbers yeah okay that's especially if they're benching 245 you can't yeah eventually the next one is cleaned up once we once we have the videos on the profiles yeah which is that is that available? That's available right now, yeah. So you can go into your profile and post either YouTube or Instagram, embed a clip. You just copy the link, and then it will embed it into your profile.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So then other people can go in and kind of see if you've actually performed the lift. And a lot of people might not have their historical ones, but it's still a cool feature that if you have it posted somewhere, you have it sitting somewhere, then you can upload to YouTube or Instagram and then go in and link it. And pretty soon you'll be able to, you know, just when you're browsing the leaderboard, there'll be like a little video icon next to each score. So as you're just kind of browsing around, you can check.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You can see really clearly whether or not there's a video attached, and you can kind of go in and see that profile. And then there's all kinds of stuff we can add from there, like the upvote, downvote thing, verification. Right. So it's endless. Yeah. I mean, this thing's brand spanking new.
Starting point is 01:07:35 We've only had this for a couple weeks. A month. Yeah, yeah. It's like we're building it as we go. It's awesome. Yeah. We're adding features left and right. Killer, dude.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Where can people find you? All the smart people stuff. All the statistics. The leaderboard. All the engineering stuff. You can't tell me how to live is the Instagram. You love it every time. I've been loving it for like the last decade.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You can't tell me how to live. Doug Larson. Yeah. Can people tell you how to live? I'm easily influenced. If the right incentives are there, I can be persuaded. Follow me on Instagram, Douglas E. Larson. Doug Larson's valuable.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I'm open to options. You're a victim of your options. That's right. That's right. Get over to theonechallenge.com. We have so much cool stuff going on. You can get in there, insert your PRs, snatch, clean jerk, squat, dead bench, total them all up, giving you your one-ton total.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Our goal is to get you into the one-ton club. Over 2,000 pounds for males, over 1,200 for ladies. We can't wait to get you strong. And make sure you get over to theonetonchallenge.com forward slash join to get on. Coach Travis Mashes, 12-month program. We're walking through eight weeks of each individual lift. The squat cycle, eight-week squat cycle.
Starting point is 01:08:57 We're going to max out your back squat. Carrying that strength throughout the entire year. Starts on the 10th, June 10th. So make sure you're getting into that program, theonetonchallenge.com. I'm Anders Varner at Anders Varner. We are the Shrug Collective at Shrug Collective. We will see you next week. That's a wrap, friends.
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