Barbell Shrugged - A Statistical Analysis of Strength w/ Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Greg Pitts — Barbell Shrugged #400
Episode Date: June 5, 2019The One Ton Challenge leaderboard has over 1,700 athletes that have submitted their PR’s for the snatch, clean, jerk, squat, deadlift, and bench press. 85% of those athletes are male and 15% o...f them are female. In this episode of Barbell Shrugged, Greg Pitts debuts to break down his findings on average lifts, what it takes to enter into the One Ton Club, and the statistical analysis of all of the athletes that have submitted scores. Minute Breakdown: 0-10 - Understanding the data set and constraints to creating stats for strength 11-20 - Sport specifics on deadlifting vs. squatting 21-30 - Snatch, Clean and Jerk compared to Squat, Deadlift, and Bench 31-40 - Guessing average numbers for males in the One Ton Challenge 41-50 - Guessing average numbers for females in the One Ton Challenge Start your journey into the One Ton Club today. Join the One Ton Challenge Leaderboard, record your PR’s and track your progress. “What is the One Ton Challenge” “How Strong is Strong Enough” “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge” WHOOP - Use code “SHRUGGED” to save 15% on the best recovery tracking tool in strength. Organifi - www.organifi.com/shrugged use code “SHRUGGED” to save 20% Bioptimizers - www.bioptimizers.com/shrugged to save 20% ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-pitts ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals. Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged
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I can't get you an Olympic medal. I can't get you on the podium at the CrossFit Games.
I have no clue how to get your name on the board at Westside Barbell.
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If Andy Galpin tested my muscle fibers, the results would come back slightly above average.
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Welcome to Barbell Shrugged.
I'm Anders Varner, Doug Larson, Greg Pitts.
You Can't Tell Me How to Live is in the house.
Yo, we have a super cool show that we're going to walk through.
We have a whole bunch of people.
So we built the One Ton Challenge leaderboard,
and we wanted everybody in the world.
We've been blasting this thing all over the social medias,
getting as much traffic to this website
as possible because on top of are we testing the lifelong pursuit of strength with one ton challenge
finding out how much you can snatch clean jerk squat deadlift and bench adding all those six
numbers up to find your one ton total and getting you on a training plan to make sure that you are
in the one ton club we've been collecting a lot of data over the last three, four weeks, finding out all these numbers, where people rank,
how many people on average were getting into the one-ton club,
and then the specifics of that, or the stats and the specifics that you need to know
so that we can really test out what is strong, how do we get you strong,
and how do we put some actual numbers and metrics to understanding strength.
We brought in the guy that built the leaderboard here, and he does the technology thing, which
is confusing as hell to me, and he's going to walk us through all the stats on the leaderboard
so you know exactly what you need.
Doug and I are going to decipher this thing in the meathead way that we do to tell you
the exact plan, the exact training protocol, and I'm going to decipher this thing in the meathead way that we do to tell you the exact plan, the exact training protocol.
And I'm excited to hear about this stuff because I'm going to be learning on the show
along with all of you.
I feel like you just framed it like Pitts is the technology guy.
He's never lifted a weight in his life.
He's 155 pounds.
He's currently in the top, like, 3% of strength numbers.
I don't feel that way around here.
The Granite Games, a lot of strong people here.
Oh, yeah.
What was your one-ton total?
My one-ton total, 2246, something like that.
Good numbers.
Yeah, I was in the 2200s.
You were the very first person I ever saw snatch 275.
I haven't seen many people snatch 275 in my life,
but that's still a big, big number.
What was your best squat?
440. 440 440 440 i believe
i remember that one best clean best clean 335 yep jerk you were really good 355 ryan fisher
filmed it yep and then on youtube oh yeah like the first iphone it's just grainy i remember those
i remember when you jerked 355. Fisher was there.
Those were some days.
Holy shit.
My deadlift was at the OC Throwdown.
Oh, everybody's deadlift.
We did do the CrossFit Total at the OC Throwdown.
It was very aggressive.
Speaking of Fisher, that was like the picture that actually got him unhomeless. The deadlift picture with his abs popping out like the turtle shell.
God.
Yeah. deadlift picture with his abs popping out like the turtle shell yeah that people that if he wasn't
on the on people's radar when that picture hit the internet it was like whoa and instagram didn't
even exist but he's taking that one to the grave with him um right on well let's start this thing
at the highest level how many people have we had sign up for this so that we were able to get, at least feel confident in what our data set is here for talking about these stats?
So as of last night, so I pulled this at about 11 p.m. last night on Friday,
and we had 1,700.
1,700 people.
That's a pretty good number.
I feel like we're going to be able to at least know where this is going when we have 17,000 and 1.7 million. That's a pretty good number. I feel like we're going to be able to at least know where this is going
when we have 17,000 and 1.7 million.
That's a big jump.
But when 1.7 million, I bet that's relatively the same statistics that we're on here.
Yeah.
Do you think 1,700 is a significant enough number in the strength world?
To get good data on average what our audience kind of looks like
as far as how strong they are on average and who's at the top and who's at the bottom,
et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah, dude, 1,700 people is a lot of people.
Yeah, that's a good number.
That's better than most college or most.
I bet Andy Galpin.
Where are you at, Andy Galpin?
We're getting way better measurements than you are on strength.
We don't need fiber type.
Anytime we get to talk shit about. We're doing the same thing.
Yeah, your statistical relevance is just not even close to ours.
He's got like N equals 9.
We got 1,700.
It's not bad.
How many guys and girls?
We got 1,460 guys and only 237 girls.
So we're 85% male.
That is exactly what our show looks like.
That's right.
Thank you, 15% ladies. Thank you. That is exactly what our show looks like. That's right. That's pretty much it with YouTube and Instagram and Facebook.
Thank you.
So what's interesting is that the men and the women hit the threshold,
the one-ton threshold, the same percentage.
It's about 25%.
25?
Yeah.
Well, 27 for the men and 24 for the women.
Interesting.
It's around the same.
Very interesting. 27% of people are in the one-ton women. Interesting. It's around the same. Very interesting.
27% of people are in the one-ton club.
That's right.
24% for ladies.
Yeah, that's right.
That's perfect in my mind.
Like, it means that it's definitely achievable, but not everyone's going to get it.
Most people won't get it.
But they're like, do you know how many people are on the, for men, you probably didn't run this stat,
but like in the 1,800 to 2,000 range, there's got to be a lot of people that are just kind of right under the threshold.
27%?
With a solid year of training, they could bump their numbers by 10% and be in.
27% actually is a much higher number than I was anticipating.
Because when we first started.
I thought it was going to be 20.
Yeah, I thought it would be like right at 80-20.
Yeah.
All right, everybody that's at 1,800, we're bumping this thing up to 2,200.
All the people that are complaining about it not being a metric ton, now it is.
Get it to 2,204.
That's right.
If you're out of the United States, you've got to do the metric ton.
We have higher standards.
27 percent.
That's way higher than I thought it was going to be.
That's a lot of strong people in the world.
It is.
It is, but I think there's people.
It's filtering people.
People want to sign up, and they're strong. And then there's also a lot of people with the world. It is. It is, but I think there's people. It's filtering people. People want to sign up, and they're strong.
And then there's also a lot of people with zero scores, right?
So people who are pretty strong with just their bench, squat,
and deadlift, and they're choosing not to enter the other scores.
So those people kind of bring down the percentage even.
Maybe they don't want to submit, something like that.
Yeah, there are.
How many zeros are at the bottom?
It's like 20, 30?
There's way more guys than girls.
And then it depends on which lift you're talking about.
Probably like 50 guys.
Yeah, I think there's.
Not as many girls.
There are a lot of people that are very comfortable with the power lifts
but may not have done the Olympic lifts.
Yeah.
And in the power lifting world, the one ton is like an elite total for many people just for the three lifts.
We watched West Side vs. the World the other day, and it's like, or it's Travis Mash, the guy that wrote the one ton training plan for us.
He totaled like 2,300 with just the three lifts.
That's insane.
That is so insane that the powerlifters are able to come out and just smash.
God, elite total in power lifting is so gnarly.
What was Dave Hoff on that from Westside?
He posted a 3,014 with three lifts.
Twice.
Yeah.
He did like 1,005, and then he beat it by 1,010,
and now it's 1,014 or something like that.
It was like a couple years apart, right? Yeah. He went back, he5, and then he beat it by 1,010, and now it's 1,014 or something like that. It was like a couple years apart, right?
Yeah.
He went back, he left, and then came back and did it again.
Yeah, there was some controversy with the depth of his squat with the 3,005,
and so people were giving him shit on the internet
and then went out there and did 310 and then now 314.
Oh, yeah, it was four years.
It was nice that it wasn't a one-time deal,
so he could hit depth and not have the controversy.
Greatest of all time.
Dude, averaging 1,000 pounds over three lifts.
Woo!
Wait, did he bench?
So he squatted probably, what, 13, 12, 12.5, something like that?
Probably 12-ish, give or take.
And then pulled 1,000.
Yeah.
Because the dead at those ranges, the suit makes such a difference that getting to your deadlift is usually,
typically lower than your squat for those people.
In powerlifting, yeah, the squat suit really helps out.
Like the world record for squatting is in twelves, I want to say, and then deadlifting just over a thousand.
Something like that.
Yeah, and then you bend straight about a thousand.
No, 800.
Yeah, probably between.
900.
Eight, nine.
Good lord. I don probably between 800 and 9. Good lord.
I don't know the real numbers.
So, yeah, the people that are not putting their Olympic lifting totals in,
it's totally, that is, they're still, if you are an Olympic lifter,
you already know what your squat dead and bench press are
because they're significantly more common,
whereas the snatch, clean, and jerk are a little
bit less trained. More people are into powerlifting than doing the snatch, clean, and jerk.
Did you happen to run numbers? I haven't looked at your stats over here. Did you happen to run
numbers on what on average the highest lift was? Say the highest lift is the deadlift, and then
the squat is x percentage of the deadlift, and the squat is x percentage of the deadlift and the snatch is x percentage of the deadlift like relative to the highest on average i'm really
curious like um if maybe in people's profiles down the line you you could you could say the
on average people are people's clean is i have no idea we'll say um 60 of their deadlift yeah but
but you your clean is 45 of yourlift. So you got some clean technique issues
to work on or whatever it is. Having those ratios, I think, was really cool in the future.
Yeah, that's a super good idea. That's why I'm pumped to be here talking about this stuff,
right? Because we have some of the data, but just kind of brainstorming on what would be useful and
what's cool to see up on the site would be really awesome. I like that idea of the relative.
Because I noticed, I kind of noticed in the movie even,
that some of the higher deadlifts weren't, relative to the squats,
they were like lower than the guy's squats.
Right.
And that was kind of, I'm just not in the world all the time,
but that was surprising to me.
Right, we're talking about that.
With geared powerlifting, typically squatting is a higher percentage than deadlifting.
Yeah.
For most raw people, especially like the CrossFit space,
the deadlift's going to be much higher.
I see.
I see.
Would you agree with that?
Certainly the case for me.
I deadlifted just over 5, 5'10", and my best squat was 4'29".
I was 4'28".
I'm like 80%, 85% of my deadlift was my squat.
I was 4 1⁄4 and 4'75".
My biggest pull ever was 4.75.
Yeah.
Yeah, deadlifting.
Plus, deadlifting is just such a mental battle of, like,
you're just going to pick it up.
Like, you have to be really angry.
You have to be really fired up.
And you have to be willing to potentially throw one of your spine,
one of your vertebraes, into the rafters.
If it gets dicey, you've got to be willing to come in.
Nosebleeds.
And with my numbers and most CrossFitters' numbers,
they're usually talking about high bar Olympic back squats,
and they're not talking about, you know, low bar, wide stance,
barely touching parallel.
My squat was no belt, no knee wraps, high bar, full, full, full depth.
Yeah.
Not like a powerlifting meet where you're trying to, like,
you know, just get the absolute biggest number,
and so you're trying to keep the range of motion as short as possible.
You're optimizing your stance to, like, limit the range of motion.
You got your belt and your squat suit and your knee wraps and everything else.
Like, you're really optimizing to inflate the number as much as possible.
Most CrossFitters aren't doing that.
They're doing a raw deadlift and a raw squat,
and so the numbers just play out a little different.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask, so if we brought in the relative numbers,
especially like the Olympic lifts versus the strong lifts,
how would that – that's going to help in the programming, right?
So if someone's in the program and you know that information,
you can just look at a set of basically ratios
and find out if there's one that's disproportionately weaker than the other, right, and then focus the training.
Yeah, you could tailor the programming to that very specific athlete.
And or like I said before, like oftentimes when people's Olympic numbers are radically low percentage-wise relative to their raw strength numbers, usually it's a technique or mobility issue.
Sure.
Like at this point with my own training, like if my technique hasn't changed in a long time, my mobility is pretty consistent.
Like if I want my numbers to go up and down for my Olympic stuff, then I just need to get stronger.
If my numbers go down for my Olympic stuff, it's usually just because I haven't been prioritizing strength.
Overall strength is lower, and so my Olympic stuff is lower.
It's just a downstream effect.
Getting stronger is really, I mean, dude, if you're inside, like, 90% of having perfect form,
like, we spend so much time trying to find that secret sauce,
watching all the little videos in Coach's Eye and putting the points
and did the bar sweep in perfectly.
Like, dude, you just got to get strong.
Like, just do the work and start eating better and, like, recover better.
Like, you just got to deadlift and squat more in a way.
You need to go through that technique phase.
Totally. Because there's definitely a lot
to it. I love technique. Once you're inside
a certain percentage of
perfect, whatever the picture
perfect snatch and clean and jerk looks like.
If you're not inside
that, you better be doing a ton
of work on the
positions. Some people say if you confront squat or triple, you better be doing a ton of work on the positions.
I know some people say, like, if you can front squat for a triple,
you should be able to clean it.
That's like one loose standard.
Of course, it's not perfect for everyone and all that,
but if you can front squat 300 for a triple, you can clean 300.
If you can front squat 400 for a triple, you can clean 400.
It won't work out like that every time, but that's just – I can't.
If you want your number to go up, you just need to be stronger.
Yeah.
What's the next stat on here?
Where did you take this data?
So we've got, hold on.
So at the very top, we're at 1,700 people total.
85% of them are male.
27% of the males are in the one-ton club over 2,000 pounds.
And 20%, you said?
24% of the women.
24% of the women.
Yeah, 318 for the males and 46 for the ladies.
Interesting.
Yeah.
That means I think I'm really happy with the number
because we did it the very first time with 1,000 pounds for the females,
and way too many people were getting in.
Like 1,000 was, like, not even close.
And then we did the 1,500 when we were first thinking about
what the female number was going to be.
And 1,500, we were hanging out with Hunter Elam at Mash's gym.
And she was like, she's the best weightlifter in the country right now.
She's just won best lifter at USA Weightlifting Nationals.
And she was like, oh, I'm only like 20 pounds off.
I could get stronger.
And we're like, okay, we're backing this down a little bit.
That's a huge 300 pounds when you're talking about the best weightlifter in the country right now doesn't make it.
We're going to bring that down a little bit.
Yeah, so for the initial build out of it, I basically pulled all of the statistics from the CrossFit Games website.
You know how you can enter your max lifts?
And then I did like a distribution from the averages and not a single girl.
Like a normal distribution from the average of the CrossFit Games website.
And nobody made it.
We should have made like a big blog post of like why CrossFit girls aren't strong.
Just straight clickbait even though we have the worst number possible.
We just made up the number.
Like no girls from USA Weightlifting Nationals are making it. No girls
from the CrossFit Games are making it.
Because we decided what was strong.
That's right, you guys.
I'm looking at your spreadsheet you have on your computer
right in front of you. For the people that are just sliding in,
the people that got like 2,002
pounds or the ladies that got like 1,201
pounds, they just barely made it in.
What are the lifts
for each of the individual lifts for the people that just barely skated in on what what are the lifts for each of the individual
lifts for the people that just kind of barely skated in on average like what are the minimums
that people need to hit for men and women so the uh so for the men if you're just skating in
they're around so i'm right now i'm just looking at the first the lowest guy that made it. Okay. Right? And he's at a 445 squat and a 450 deadlift.
He is.
Okay.
Pretty even for squat and deads for him.
Yep.
And then.
Wait.
Where did it go?
There we go.
Yeah.
So, he's benching 240, but he's strong in the Olympic lifts.
Like, he's jerking 315, snatching 237, and cleaning 315.
That's really good for those strength numbers.
Yeah.
Yeah, so then he's up to 2,002 pounds.
So he's just sliding in.
He must have really short arms.
He doesn't have to move that jerk that far.
Jerk 315.
Yeah, and I'm surprised.
Well, there's a 240 bench and a 315 jerk.
So that is quick, powerful.
Yeah.
Right?
That's really interesting.
And what about ladies?
And ladies squatting 290 and deadlifting 297.
So that's actually...
Also pretty even.
Yeah, yeah, which surprises me again because I am the same as you guys
is that when I was doing this stuff, my deadlift was significantly more than my back squat.
And then benching 132 and jerking 165.
I don't really know what women are supposed to be doing.
135 bench is, I think, pretty solid for girls.
Doug, I'm looking at you.
Well, it depends how big that person is.
But, yeah, I mean, if your bench press and your body weight is a female,
that's pretty strong.
So the average of everyone is 138 of all the women.
Minus, I think I filtered out anybody below like 50 pounds or something.
Yeah.
So that 138.
So they're actually below the average of all sign-ups in the bench.
Actually, for the averages, we can probably calculate this really quick.
Like my deadlift is roughly 500 pounds, which is 25% of 2,000 pounds.
So my deadlift is 25% of my score.
For these averages, can we quickly calculate what percentage of the total each individual lift is for the averages?
So, for example, if we said the women have a 227 average squat, what percentage of that is of 2,000?
For them, 1,200.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that won't be hard.
When you see, when you think about like a power lifter
coming in and doing the numbers, well, it wouldn't be for 1,200.
It would be for whatever the average total is.
Right?
Yeah.
Go ahead. When you think about the power lifter coming in and doing this we've seen
some power lifters that are really good at like when you get to the top of the leaderboard
there's some people that are really really good at the olympic lifts and i wonder often
how many people found like we're just because we've been watching we watched west side versus
the world of how louis simmons went Simmons went from Olympic lifter into power lifter
and how many people going from a power lifting
and now they have to do snatch, clean, and jerk
where those lifts are just really, really awkward.
There was one guy that we just put on that one of the first people to do the challenge
was his power lifts were gigantic and then he cleaned like 185 he snatched 145
but his his other numbers were so it was like 500 500 400 right like the the bench press was
really really impressive 400 pound bench is really cool yeah but I didn't see that guy
do those lifts but i'm assuming he's
doing power cleans and power snatches and power cleans some range of motion issues all back
catching it with the straight wrists like didn't catch it on his shoulders right catching his hands
he knew what the movement looked like but there's just such mobility restrictions that getting into
those spots was just really really tough right um It's pretty common going from pure powerlifting to trying to do weightlifting.
Yeah, but I think it's also a great thing for understanding that people can get on the program
and learn the Olympic lifts through MASH's program that we're going to spend tons of time
working on positions and finding really how to jump pull yourself under a barbell not just
having that that massive uh raw strength side but really working on the athleticism speed that
powers people to get um to push this stuff under the or over the 2,000 pound number um the the The average squat of everyone on the board here.
Hold on, Doug.
Doug's an Excel wizard.
I'm not an Excel.
That saves it for ever.
Gotta put the dollar signs, there you go.
Bam, look at this guy.
Yes, there you go.
There it is.
Oh, I like it.
Oh my gosh, Doug Larson. You, I like it. Oh, my gosh.
Doug Larson.
There we go.
You guys can't see this because we're talking to the statistician over here.
Work some magic.
What did we just find out?
Let's see.
Squat.
Here, you can do it, Pitts.
Yeah, so for the men, the squat is – so we're getting 22% of their total.
And this is for all of the people who've put up on the leaderboard.
And then the deadlift is 26%,
and then the rest are somewhere in the teens,
varying between 15% and 11%.
So you're benching 15% of your total, 16% of your total,
and then the lowest is you're snatching only 11% of your total.
So you get the most bang for your buck out of squats and deadlifts, obviously.
And then your snatch and your bench are snatch is the lowest.
And then really bench, jerk, and clean are all kind of the same.
They're all right in that 14, 15, 16 range.
And that's the same for women.
It's about the exact same ratios for women.
The bench, jerk, and the clean are hanging in the teens.
12% for the snatch versus 11% for the men.
And then the deadlift and the squat, you know, definitely high.
Oh, wow.
50% actually.
I thought there might have been a bigger discrepancy,
like with the slightly lower percentage on bench press
and a slightly higher percentage on squatting for ladies,
but that doesn't look like it's the case.
Well, it's a little, I mean, like, we're talking 1% difference,
right?
Right.
So you're 15 to 14 lower on the bench,
and 1% higher on the squat for your percentage.
So maybe that just kind of flips there.
Yeah, their jerk percentage is a little higher than guys,
and their snatch percentage is a little higher than the guys.
Clean percentage is a little higher than the guys.
Killing the weightlifting, ladies.
Yeah.
We're going to make sure we have all these infographics up on the social
media so you can follow along with them.
Doug's going to make you some beautiful little images so we
can put this stuff together.
So good at graphic design. You really are.
Who knew you were an expert
in movement mechanics and
keynote. And keynote graphic design.
That's what all the real graphic
designers use. They use keynote.
You find your tool and hammer it.
Like, you want to use Adobe anything?
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And looking at these numbers, though,
do you think that this would change your approach on the one-ton weekend?
I want to talk about how these numbers kind of play into building a training system,
but do you think that now knowing that you need at least call it 25 percent of your lift or 50 percent of your total
needs to be in your squat and your deadlift yeah more or less yeah how are you going to change the
way you approach doing the one ton weekend or taking this challenge on to find what your total
is well we we very intentionally wanted the squat cycle to be the first cycle in the training
program yeah like really focusing on on raw strength especially like leg strength vertical
torso strength that way once you get once you max out on the squat after the first eight week block
and then you move into to snatching and cleaning and whatnot you have that like that big base of
strength yeah so you can maximize your snatch and your clean and then at the very end before the
one-ton weekend the very last cycle is the deadlift,
which is like the most brutally just raw, raw, raw strength moving out of all of them.
That way you're kind of peaking at the end with raw strength after the whole cycle is over.
And then you have a four-week block to kind of taper for the one-ton weekend.
What is the average squat throughout all 1,500 males?
Is that what that males? 373.
That's a lot of weight.
Are you surprised by that?
373 for the squat?
Yeah, like the average person that
is interested in weightlifting
understands squat,
deadlift, bench,
snatch, clean jerk,
squats 375 pounds.
That's a lot of weight.
That took me a really long time, I feel like, to squat 375.
I would have guessed that the average strength of somebody that lifts weight
is somebody like a 275-pound squat.
Yeah, so we're talking about the average of everybody.
So this is the average for everyone who submitted,
and then that's the average total.
1,677 is the average total for everyone who's submitting.
So if we're talking about, well, this one went into percentage.
I don't know what's going on there.
But it's a different stat than the average of people who qualified.
But, yeah, the 3,473 is everyone.
Everyone involved.
That seems pretty high for only having it.
It's really high.
For the average total
being right around 1,700
and the squats at 373?
Yeah, like generally speaking,
so we're at the Granite Games
right now.
If you walked out
onto the floor
and put all the guys together
through all the divisions
and 375 pounds
is the average squat out here.
That's crazy to me.
We are a fit-ass group of of people i would have assumed it was like
250 to 275 that would have been my general like everyone can squat 225 relatively easy
like just a little bit of training a little bit of understanding movement technique stuff like that
yeah but 275 means you've been squatting to me for like three years yeah i would have said
300 would have been my guess for um when we get into what do you think the deadlift is oh shit i
just looked i cheated should pick a different one it's like college it's like college i cheated
sorry i looked at the answers i had the answer key um snatchatch for males, my guess, on average,
our audience snatches 197.6 pounds.
That sounds heavy.
It does sound heavy.
Did you see the number two?
No.
Wait, did I get it right?
No.
Oh, I was going to say holy crap.
What do you think it is?
I was going to say 185.
Doug wins. 186 crap. You're close. What do you think it is? I was going to say 185. Doug wins.
Oh.
186.
Wow.
So close.
See, we need to change the plate colors because everybody just wants to put the blue and the green on because that's the minimum.
That's the training program, right?
You just put two blues on and tell yourself it's the 185.
Well, we talked about that in the snatch show that we did of like putting 225 on
the bar is not just like snatching 225 it's like you have to address the bar and there's two blue
plates on there now and it's really intimidating for at least three months just to get over the
fact that like you got to get strong enough to like really be confident stand over that thing
knowing that you're going to chuck these giant things over your head.
It does seem to be different to have two blues versus.
It's intimidating as hell if you've never done it.
It's super intimidating.
I remember the very first time I snatched 225.
I caught it on one knee.
And I was like, oh, God, do I stand this up now?
Like, this is embarrassing.
I wish I didn't even do this.
Hey, people have gone to the games with that much.
Jeremy Kinnick, where you at, buddy?
I hope he's listening. I wish I didn't even do this. Hey, people have gone to the games with that much. Jeremy Kinnick, where you at, buddy? I hope he's listening.
I hope he's listening.
He did go to the games and snatch 225 on his knee.
Everybody loved that.
They've done studies where they've covered up the weights.
You can't see the weights that are on the bar.
It's like put a big plastic bag over the end of the bar so you can't see what's on there.
And then you just pick it up and do it.
And they'll add a little more and you don't see what they add and then they're like okay it's
you know a little more and you go all right put on your back kind of feel it and they're just like
okay i think i can do that and you do it and people smash their prs because they don't they
don't have that like oh i can't do 315 thing going through their head i've never been able to do that
too heavy i feel like 400 pounds to me would still feel like a shit ton i wouldn't know i'd be like
oh that's four yep Yep, that hurts.
Barely get my feet off the ground.
I can't breathe. That was hard
to get it off the pens.
Alright, let's play the
guessing game. What do we got? Bench press.
Doug Larson. The average for bench press?
Average bench press.
250.
Oh, that's big.
I want to say, oh man man, that's good, though.
The squat number really messed me up because I think everybody's stronger
than they probably are now.
I'll go 235.
You both are low, actually.
Whoa.
Yeah, we're at 265.
Stop it.
What do you think it is?
We've got a strong group of people. 265. Stop it. What do you think it is? We got a strong group of people.
265?
That's what I did with Amy Hugh the other day.
And it was heavy as shit.
Doug walked up to me.
Doug walked up to me.
She weighs 130 and
benched 265 on just like a
random day. We filmed a video with her.
She's like, oh yeah, I benched double bodyweight today.
She benched 265 and I was like, fuck, I got to go bench 265 now.
So I, like, get under there, and I'm trying to do it like power lifter,
like get my nipples as close to the bar as possible,
so I just barely tap.
And then I'm, like, pushing it up, and I'm like, fuck.
I'm dying.
Doug walks over to me as soon as we're done filming.
He's like, just to let you know, your 1RM looked a lot harder than her 1RM.
Yours looked like a true 1RM.
She looked like she was training.
Well, that's because she's the best in the world.
And I've only got her outweighed by 50 pounds.
I saw this video the other day of this guy that, like,
he must be, like, a contortionist or something. He got on the bench and his butt was almost touching his neck.
He was like, he was just so bowed where his chest was stuck up so high.
And then he grabbed really, really wide.
The bar went about an inch.
He barely bent his elbows and then straightened them.
And good lift.
Like 700 pounds or something.
Insane.
He probably weighed only like 120 though. He was so tiny. Yeah, he was folding right now. He just stands on his elbows and then straightens them and they go lift. Like 700 pounds or something. Insane.
He probably weighed only like 120 though.
He was so tiny.
Yeah, he was folding right in half backwards.
You would have to be pretty thin to touch the back of your neck to your butt.
Right.
Are you gaining strength that way
or are you just getting your chest closer to the bar?
You're playing the game.
Well, I mean, in some ways you are gaining strength
because now you're pressing at a decline.
Okay.
Now you're pressing down as opposed to out.
You can always decline bench more than you can regular bench
more than you can incline bench more than you can overhead press.
But then the range of motion is so radically short.
You just barely crack your elbow away from straight
and then straighten it back out.
Gosh.
Good for him.
Yeah.
We are joined by a real celebrity over here, Hunter McIntyre,
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Not only is Hunter McIntyre joining us in the studio today, but he's in a place that he's never been before,
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Last time Hunter was in 25th place.
Strength numbers, averages,
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But right now, getting back into the stats, we need your honest opinion of,
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if you were to walk out onto this floor, bring all the competitors into the middle
and say, what is the average male squat in this group right now?
What number do you think it is?
Amongst elites?
No, no, no, no, no.
All the people, because that's pretty much what the leaderboard is.
We've got 1,700 people on it that we've run all the averages, all the numbers.
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Yeah.
No,
God,
what was it?
73.
There's no fucking way.
It's just not true.
Yeah,
that's not true.
And maybe amongst people who posted it.
Well,
it's not actually for people that are at the Granite Games.
He's talking about all the people that intentionally opted in to the leaderboard
for the one-ton challenge.
It's a different group.
You're going to want it.
I thought you were just like, if I literally cast a net over everybody.
That's kind of how I feel like our leaderboard has taken shape.
It's people that are interested in strength, which is this group.
It's people that are probably in the CrossFit powerlifting,
Olympic weightlifting space
they know what the lifts are and they've taken the time to go out of their way to see where they
stack up which is basically what's happening out here on the competition floor so it's it's i would
say that this is like a pretty our leaderboard probably represents what's going on at the
games on a strength basis only very well i suck at squat, and I'm 375 to 395 on any given day.
And I suck at squatting.
I think that that number is really high.
I worked super hard to get that.
Yeah.
What do you think?
Well, you had to do a bunch of, yeah, I don't know how long.
It would be nice if we had how long each person has been doing these lifts.
What do you think the deadlift is?
I mean, based on what you just told me,
I'm going to say probably like 445.
Yeah, that's about right.
437.
Yeah, but if you went to a CrossFit gym,
you'd be hard to crack the average male member
to break over like 355 to 365.
Yeah, because the majority of them
are probably 35 to 40 years old at this point.
If you think about it, if you went out into this crowd right now
and you picked everybody who was not competing,
and they all are CrossFit advocates, that's why they're probably here,
and you put them into the system,
you'd probably have to shave almost 100 pounds off all the averages
you're looking at now.
But these are all bros who are on their fitness accounts and stuff,
and when you post that up, they're probably like avid followers of your guys.
And they're putting in maybe inflated numbers as well.
Oh.
Calling you out, folks.
No way.
Hunter McIntyre had an opinion.
Well, actually, on that note, Mr. Greg Pitts, you can comment on this.
We're making a place for everyone in everyone's profile where they can put videos of all their lifts.
Then we can potentially upvote them and downvote them in the future.
For sure.
Yeah, that's right.
So you'll be able to embed.
Give them that blue check on Instagram.
Some people are going to film some of their things
and post it up, and then they probably
would not bring up other ones.
But what's your back squat?
My current?
Yeah.
Or best?
Current.
I haven't max back squatted in probably two years.
Just give me a hint.
But, yeah, I'd imagine at this point it's probably high threes.
High threes.
Yours?
High threes.
Same, high threes.
Okay.
And you guys all are in the gym.
That's why we hang out together.
You guys all chase fitness mega hard.
Yeah, we're over 20 years of – the first time I squatted 315 I was 17 years old.
I bet you the average of people are posting right now in this room is five years or less.
Everybody who posts on this is 10 years plus.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You think?
I think there's a filter for strength on the leaderboard.
And then even here, I've seen a lot of younger people here at the Grander Games.
And, you know, a lot of people who are new into CrossFit get really excited about coming to the competition.
Yeah.
And, you know, if there's the selective filter for strength where there's no
Metcons and it's advertised as like, hey, this is the event where you don't
have to do that stuff, then there is a selective filter to prefer strength.
What do you think?
What's your bench press right now?
295, maybe three.
What was the average?
65.
265, yeah.
That's a big bench press.
Bench is so much fun.
You think?
Yeah, I love it.
So when I was training for OCR, I used power racks.
Power rack bench press is so much fun.
When I'm training for OCR, I do almost all power rack work
because I don't want to have extra range of motion that's going to either hurt me
or make me more sore.
And I would superset weighted chin-ups with power rack about maybe 6 to 12 inch from chest
height and do a lot of power from there.
Just get a lot of muscle recruitment on super, super heavy weight.
And I love it.
And that's a super fast way to get your bench press up.
Yeah.
You're doing the equivalent of like a floor press or like a board press.
So it's not full touching your chest range of motion. You're just limiting it a little bit to save your bench press up. Yeah. You're doing the equivalent of like a floor press or like a board press. Yeah. So it's not full touching your chest range of motion.
You're just limiting it a little bit to save your shoulders, et cetera.
I learned from Louie a long time ago,
and I also learned from a lot of the running coaches that I worked with.
Like, you know, if you look at all the strength training coaches for running
and you take like basically what the sprinting coaches do,
and then you just pull back on some of the numbers
and the amount of volume they do, and then you apply it to distance running,
you find out that doing negatives and things like that are too dangerous and they're doing you can watch like 800 meter runners dude
will put like 350 on their back high twos to 350 and they'll just do quarter squats like super
explosive quarter squats and it just gives them that extra power and torque for when you're out
there just hauling ass yeah you do the same thing for running they don't need a whole lot of
explosion out of the blocks really if you're running 800 it's like yeah i, you go fast, but it's not like you're running 100 meters.
You're not, like, blowing out of the water right out of the blocks.
So you don't need that full range of motion the same way that you do
if you're someone who has a short sprint to do.
I also think that squat is not actually the greatest movement in the world.
I think unless you're a CrossFitter or a powerlifter or an Olympic weightlifter,
you'd probably find a lot of the
professional strength training coaches in the world, at least for sport, that they don't really
put that much of an emphasis on it. Like I know some people like Explosive Mechanics is a guy I
follow. He really loves doing the box squats for people, but the likelihood that you're going to
injure yourself and also that, that kind of positioning, you're not going to find that in
sport. You're going to do single leg squats, things like that. You're going to do trap bar deadlift.
It's just a healthier position and a better position for athletes.
Depends upon, yeah, I mean, if CrossFit is your sport,
standing on two legs all the time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like the Boyle argument.
He hates the bilateral squat and doesn't talk about it.
But if you're a strength athlete, you better be on two legs.
What's the most surprising number for you guys on this platform?
So far, the squat number that it's that high.
It's a bunch of BS.
We haven't even gotten through all the numbers.
What's next?
We got clean.
Clean.
What do you think the average clean is of all the people?
Shoot.
It's probably going to be 255.
I was thinking 275.
What's your guess?
I was thinking higher than that, yeah.
I'll go in the middle.
265. 265. What's your guess? I was thinking higher than that, yeah. I'll go in the middle. 265.
265.
We got 250.
Dang right, your boy takes a go.
250.
That seems so low if the squat number is that high.
That's what I'm trying to say.
There must be some just we must have found a lot of not a lot,
but there must be.
I wonder if it's being skewed towards powerlifting
just because powerlifting is everyone's done those three versus not everyone has done snatch clean
jerk. The other, the other thing that could be happening is that we have some squats that are
like 800. Yeah. Right. And there's no cleans that are 800. So those could be pulling the average
up a lot. Whereas all of the cleans are kind of clustering around the same and we can do
analysis on this too. Right. But they're kind of clustering around the same, and we can do analysis on this too,
but they're kind of clustering around the same.
Do you have the peak numbers for each movement?
Yeah, I want to hear that, because the squats
are going to be like 700 or something like that,
but cleans and snatches are not going to be...
You know what I think would be a funny test?
Please add strict pull-up in here. I know it's
not part of the one-ton challenge, but
all these chicks that I'm competing against that can
out-pull up me
in, like, butterfly pull-ups and all this other bull crap, I bet you most of them can't break 12 to 14 pull-ups.
You have, like, a test in your gym of, like, the handboard.
Yeah, I've got the He-Man pull-up challenge.
Dude, that's an awesome one.
You know who freaking blew my mind just now with pull-ups?
I just had Martins, one of the top strongmen in the world.
I think he took second at Arnold and third at World's Strongest Man last year.
That dude, I have this finger block pull-up where it's basically like,
imagine if you took a 2x4 and made it steel,
and then you hang it from the bar and you can only squeeze it like this.
This dude who's 345 pounds is repping out on that.
Wow.
I barely know anybody who can do those things for a couple reps.
He's doing it that way. But here's a challenge
for anybody. It's called the He-Man Challenge.
Any kind of pull-up you want has to be strict.
50 pounds hanging from your hip. You have to
hit 15 to be He-Man. Whoa.
Without falling from the bar? No.
My best is 16.
If I want to get in shape, I start cranking it at that.
I always hold 10 to 13
throughout the season, but if you want to break through those
numbers, that's easy. I did my first Spartanan last year in the world championships i just qualified they just gave
me an invite to the worlds that's right wildcard baby there was a podcaster wildcard that guy that
guy sounds like he's in shape we'll give him a talk to the game and i've always watched your
training and then when i got out to Spartan
I was like wow I have to climb this
rope and it's soaking wet
and then I have to go across
now I know why you do so many of the things you do
it's a game changer dude
when I was in the CrossFit space training for that
it was better to be able to do
50 plus butterfly pull ups
than 15 strict
so you just practice the
you play the game.
I do lots of isometric pull-ups.
Yeah.
Like pull, hold two seconds on top, come down two seconds, back down.
Yeah.
Frenzy pull-ups is such an amazing way to build like posterior chain.
I don't know.
If you start doing isometric pull-ups,
you can make your regular pull-ups bump up like 50% pretty quick.
One thing that's interesting about that clean number being that high though,
I feel like they're at that number if i was to take somebody that cleans like 250 245 was the number
there's a lot of technique problems in there like i would say that if your technique is inside like
90 of perfect and the goal is just to get stronger you should be able to clean 275 like there's that
gap in there i think is a technique gap,
where if the number was, like, squatting,
most people don't need to clean up their squatting form,
which may be why it's so much higher.
Like, the deadlift is so high because, well,
any dummy can go pick something up off the ground.
Yes, there's a lot of technique,
but mainly just bend over and pick the shit up.
But when it comes to clean, and we'll see on the snatch as well,
like, there's such a massive technique piece to understanding.
If everybody had good enough technique, I think that number would be like 275, 285.
Well, that's interesting, the correlation we talked about earlier, right?
Because if you start to see that all of these people in the 250 range
might be ranging up really high in the squat,
then you automatically know, right?
It's because they have, like, you're jumping wide when you're cleaning
and doing a power clean instead of a squat clean, things like that.
The biggest thing that gave me a bump this season,
outside of, like, having to increase strength to actually hit these numbers,
was just doing cleans and snatches up against the wall
with a barbell or a PVC pipe.
Because for me, I'm always this person who still has this problem
where i hit smash the bar and i push out rather than up so you just keep on getting closer and
closer to the wall or like take a squat rack and try to get like up keep on hiking yourself up
the closer you can keep that bar to yourself like i just keep on catching here and then going like
this because it's slipping in front of me and with my snatch i catch it like here instead of here if you can do that you can basically take that 375 374
and then kind of just start to bring the average between those things and you're clean try to
clean it up because you know if you have the squat clean technique then you should be able
to push it way up did you did you learn the clean easier than the snatch well the thing was is i was always pretty gosh darn, like I always felt a lot more comfortable with the clean
because it's just like something that I would never snatch.
So I've cleaned a lot more in my life.
And my clean numbers like bumped up really quickly.
But then my snatch way outgrew my like the increase of my clean because now my problem is getting in the hole.
Like I'm stuck around 295 on my squat clean because I just don't have that explosive power to get out of the hole.
Like my front squat is 315, 325 the best,
and I don't have that power to get out.
Now I'm getting 245 overhead in my snatch,
and the problem is it's only my lockout rather than the squat.
Yeah.
So from –
325 looked good yesterday. Yeah, So from – 225 looked good yesterday.
Yeah, it felt good.
It felt good.
Now I think just the thing for me is going to be able to hold capacity
and hold positioning.
I'm not going to be able to add more than five pounds to anything strength-wise,
I think, between now maybe five, ten pounds on anything.
So I'm going to go through a deadlift cycle,
and I'm just going to try to get some really good coaches to keep eyes on me.
Grow your back more.
You do any pause front squats?
Yeah, I do.
Pause all the way to the bottom?
Yeah.
You know what gave me more than anything?
Pause is, like, helpful and feels good,
but I just – Adrian Conway, the, you know, affiliate cup champion,
told me to start doing clusters.
And my capacity for squats went fucking sky high.
Yeah.
Now I can put 315 on my back and just all day up and down, just dun, dun, dun, dun.
And I think that's what CrossFit is.
Like, you know, just practice.
You know, we just did a workout, run, handstand push-ups,
and then 20 front squats and 185.
That's the person who's not the strongest.
It's the person who just likes suffering.
Yeah.
Uncomfortable.
That weight sucks.
Yeah.
What's next?
What do we got?
Snatch. Yeah, snatch. This will be interesting. Icomfortable. That weight sucks. Yeah. What's next? What do we got? Snatch.
You got it.
Yeah, snatch.
This will be interesting.
I wonder what you guys think.
What's your guess on what's the average snatch of all the people?
Yeah, cool.
Thanks for having me on, guys.
We'll be back.
Peace and out.
We'll be back.
Cool.
I'd say snatch is probably really similar to bench press.
The bench was – no, no, no. Excuse me. That's not going to be right.
The bench was high. The bench was much higher than I thought it was going to be.
Again, I think those powerlifting
numbers are a little bit inflated because we've got some guys that had
big 700-pound
squats and 500-pound
benches or whatever it is, so those numbers are
artificially high.
I'd say snatch.
Did we already do this?
No, you guys didn't guess one. I'd say snatch for Did we already do this? No, you guys didn't guess one.
I'd say snatch for guys is right around.
No, we did.
It's like 175.
It was like 185, wasn't it?
It was 185, yeah.
Yeah.
We did that one?
We did that one, yeah.
Okay, what about jerk?
That's the one we have not on.
Jerk.
It's going to be similar to clean, maybe a little higher.
260, two and a higher. 260.
Two and a half.
Whoa.
Two and a half.
I want to go 275 just because it looks green.
Go blue, blue, green.
Way lower. Lower.
241.
Whoa.
241.
Listen up, people.
You got to get stronger.
What do you think of the people who have qualified, though?
So if you are in the one-ton club.
Have we gone through those numbers yet?
We have not.
We have not gone through those numbers we have not we've not
gone through those we'll go back through those because i want to know what the averages of those
people yo if you're do you remember like many many many years ago how i could clean 300 pounds
but couldn't jerk 245 yeah what a disaster oh my overhead was so terrible was that all i had to
hire a coach to teach me how to jerk like Like the clean and the snatch, pulling from the floor,
and just there was something about that that always made sense to me.
Like on day one of learning how to clean,
I think I used to do like hang clean and press for like shoulder
and like back day kind of when I was doing like bodybuilding type routines.
So it just made
sense that i could pull under the bar it was like as a relatively athletic human i understood how to
do that but something about the dip in the drive and going overhead like i had never really played
an overhead sport or anything and it was a disaster i could clean 300 pounds like in i want to say i was like i opened the gym when i was 27 when i was 28 29
300 pound clean wasn't that big of a deal to me but i mean the most i've ever cleaned 318 so it's
not like it went astronomically more than that but um the yeah i could clean 300 and then i'd
put it on my shoulders and the dip and drive was just a fucking disaster.
Like, it was a mess.
And it would be so frustrating because, like, I never – I just, like, stopped training my clean
because it was like, what's the point?
I can't put it over my head, even close.
But I hired a coach for summer, and then just slowly, slowly, slowly
until those numbers matched at 315.
That was like – when I cleaned and jerked 315, I was like, holy shit, we've come so far.
I feel amazing.
This is incredible.
And now when I deadlift 315, I feel like I'm going to die.
Yeah.
I don't know how that ever went over my head.
How was I so angry one day that I was able to focus my aggression
to put 315 pounds over my head? That's mind-boggling. I was almost angry one day that I was able to focus my aggression to put 315 pounds over my head.
That's mind-boggling.
I was always the opposite.
Like, if I could get on my shoulders, I could jerk it, no problem.
Yeah, well, I've actually seen you.
I mean, I trained with you, Pitt, so many times.
Your overhead is, like, crazy strong.
Like, that little pop.
You were always, like, the day you walked in, I think you power cleaned 275,
and we were like, oh, we need to brainwash him.
Bring that guy in.
We should make him a coach.
We'll pay him to be here.
Since I was 12, we were doing Olympic lifts since I was 12 in our football program.
So I had a long 10 years when I walked in your gym,
and he actually knew how to coach.
Yeah, that's the same with Doug.
I mean, I never had anybody doing any overhead work like that.
It was always military press, which is basically more or less incline press.
Yeah.
He had a great coach since I was 14, early high school.
Yeah.
With one of the big stuff.
Who learned from Bergner.
Yeah.
But were you always weak in the pull?
So I've always been weak in the pull-up because we trained explosive outward,
explosive punch, like, inside and then above our heads.
But my pull-ups have always, always been terrible.
No, because I did gymnastics when I was a little kid for years.
And so I went from gymnastics straight into weightlifting.
And so CrossFit just made sense to its combination of gymnastics and weightlifting.
And then I got exercise science degrees and CrossFit became a thing,
and I was like, well, this is fucking rad.
Well, now you just get to teach the six lifts, which is better.
What's the next one?
Did we get through all six?
We haven't done any women's scores.
I want to see if you guys have any idea what those ones are.
We're sorry, 15% of you guys out there right now, this is going to be tough.
What do you think the best squat is for a female?
A 300-pound squat for a female is a big number.
No, no, no, like the average.
A 300-pound squat is a lot for a female.
It is.
I'm going to say 185.
For the average squat?
200. It's big. Is it really? It's five. For the average squat? 200.
It's big.
Is it really?
It's big.
You guys are going to be surprised again.
227.
Okay.
Sorry.
These people have not got a 1,200-pound total.
This is the above.
This is the 300 people, the 300 ladies that are, what's your
squat?
What's your best squat?
242.
So she's above.
So this is anyone who entered above a 135.
You want to play the game?
Here you go.
Come on in.
You're going to play the game.
Here we go.
You are on barbell shrug right now.
You're going to be so famous.
Do you want me to hold that?
All right.
You're the expert lady.
Have you ever been on barbell shrug before? Yeah, me neither. What's your you're the expert lady. Have you ever been on Barbell Shrugged before?
Yeah, me neither.
Sweet.
What's your name?
Brooklyn.
Brooklyn.
What a phenomenal name.
Thanks.
Are you amazed at how good this sounds in your ears?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Usually it's just in your car, right?
Right.
Very, very soothing to the soul when you hear this raspy voice come into your life.
Yes, sir.
Do you listen to Barbell Shrugged?
I have never.
Gosh.
You're supposed to say yes.
Lord.
Well, now you're – we got one more. Barbell. Okay.? I have never. Gosh. You're supposed to say yes. We got one more barbell.
Okay.
We're derailed already.
I was playing off of her comment.
So we run a program, a challenge, that is also a training program called the One Ton Challenge.
And the goal is to take your squat, deadlift, and bench press, snatch, clean and jerk, not clean and jerk, clean, comma, and jerk, total them up, and you're going to try to have a one-ton total of over 1,200 pounds.
Does that make sense?
Kind of, sort of?
I don't do math.
Yeah, you don't have to do the math right now, but we have taken, we have 1,700 people signed up for this, and we have
taken the numbers, and male and female, and now we're going through the averages of what you think
the normal strength numbers are for females. So what do you think the average squat is for
the people that are on
that are in this challenge.
In a way, if you think about
putting all the people that are competing
and in the stands into this arena
here and saying, like I just did to you,
what is your back squat?
What do you think the average is?
Most CrossFit ladies are
pretty strong.
I'd say maybe
210.
Ooh, 225, right?
225.
225, yeah.
That's close.
You were way, we were way lower than you guys.
So you're way, you're way more dialed in.
That's how you got on barbell shrugged, actually.
You were the expert.
You passed the test.
Closest female expert.
Um, deadlift.
Let's talk about it.
You want the number first? Oh, no. What do you think the deadlift is? Sorry. Oh, the female expert. Deadlift. Let's talk about it. You want the number first?
Oh, no.
What do you think the deadlift is?
Sorry.
Oh, the average deadlift?
Yeah.
I could probably add another 100 to that, so 280.
Ooh.
I'm going to go, damn, that's a good number.
And you sounded so confident saying that.
Man, I'll go 250.
250.
That's what I said.
272. Damn. That's what I said. 272.
Damn.
You're good.
All right.
God, killer.
All right.
Bent press.
Bent press.
I'm going to say 135.
Lady bent press?
135.
That's like the body weight.
Oh, gosh.
I can't do body weight.
I could probably do, and I'm pretty average, so I'd probably say 120.
Ooh.
Doug Larson, you said your back squat was what?
Way less than.
No, no, no.
What was your back squat?
I know.
She's like, I don't want to say it.
Her back squat was like 240.
It was 240, right?
So you're thinking bench press is roughly half of that?
Yeah.
And the back squat, what was the back squat we said?
270?
270.
Yeah, but I mean, you guys guessed way high.
But yeah.
Yeah.
OK, I'll say half of that.
135.
Yeah, 138.
38.
Close.
Ding, ding, ding, ding.
The price is right.
Get stronger.
Yeah.
We have a program for that.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
Right on.
Clean.
Oh.
What do you think the average is?
What's your best clean?
My best clean is 145.
145.
Doug Larson, what do you think the average is of all the people?
For the ladies?
Probably right around there.
I'm pretty average.
How dare you say that?
I like to think of myself as pretty average.
I'm a pretty average CrossFitter.
I'm really strong amongst all my friends at home. Slightly above average. I'm a pretty average CrossFitter. I'm a really strong amongst all my friends at home. Slightly above
average. I'm way stronger
than all my friends. Put the slightly above before
the average. Slightly above average.
Then there's no... You're a little bit above.
I'm stronger than my husband.
That's out in public.
Do you want to say his name? No.
If I was him, I wouldn't want you to either.
He would never listen to this anymore.
How dare him?
He listens to, like, fishing podcasts.
He knows how to.
He'd be a better fisher if he was in the one-punch club.
Cleans, let's say 145.
Man, that's a good guess.
That was my guess.
I'm going to go 146. We're on the same page over here.
Price is right.
Bastion, 146.
And as you win, 161.
One pound. One pound.
They're 161.
161.
Look at that.
Nice.
We need to get Danny Spiegel on here.
We totally do.
Missing the jerk and the snatch.
Because then she's going to totally jack the numbers up.
Your friend is anxiously awaiting you.
We have two left.
She's like, how did you end up on this show?
She's super famous right now.
You just know people.
All right.
What do we got?
What's the next one?
Jerk.
Jerk.
What is it?
What's yours?
125.
All right.
So we have an average to go.
You're slightly above average.
Maybe.
All right.
So what do you got?
Would you like some focus here?
No.
Oh, it's empty.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
What did I just say?
125?
125.
What's your jerk? Would you like some focus hit? No. Oh, it's empty. Sorry. No. Go ahead. No. What did I just say? 125? Yeah. What's your jerk?
Yeah, 125.
OK.
What's the average of all the people,
since you're slightly above average?
Oh, 122 and 1 1.
Ooh.
Doug Larson, what do you think?
I'm going to go 135.
You also think it'd be a little higher than that, too.
130.
Yeah.
You have 157.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Strong ladies.
Uh-huh.
20 pounds above the bench.
115's her max.
Well, both you guys need to get stronger, just saying.
What's the next one?
Snatch.
Snatch.
What you got?
What you got?
What you got?
Oh, 100.
I'm so afraid of the bar.
Don't be scared.
It's just metal.
It's only going to land on the top of your head.
Yeah.
Hurt a little bit.
Done that before. Yeah. At Nationals. It's only going to land on the top of your head, hurt a little bit.
Done that before.
Yeah, at nationals.
At the Arnold.
Yeah, at the Arnold, not nationals.
Snatch?
I'm going to say 120.
I'd say 145.
I was going to say 125.
Actually, yeah.
Now that I've been low for a few, I'm going to go higher, 135.
135, I'm going to say 125.
Yeah, I'd say average, though, is probably, yeah, 130.
Dog, you had it.
120.31.
Wow. I had it.
Wow.
I should have learned not to do that.
Was that the last one?
That was the last one.
That was the last one.
Right on.
Welcome to Barbell Shrug.
If you don't download this episode now, I don't even know what to say.
It's going to come out this Wednesday.
Yeah.
Is there anything you'd like to tell the people about yourself? There's only going to be, like, tens of thousands of people that listen to this. Oh, my gosh. I don't know what to say. It's going to come out this Wednesday. Yeah. Is there anything you'd like to tell the people about yourself?
There's only going to be like tens of thousands of people that listen to this.
Oh, my gosh.
I don't know.
Did you know you were talking to that many people right now?
No.
Yeah.
Right on their commute to work.
Yay.
You're going to leave here and be like, oh, my gosh.
I'm going to be so famous.
I did it.
I'm slightly above average, and I made it.
You can follow me on Instagram, Becoming Brooklyn.
Becoming Brooklyn.
That's a great Instagram handle.
It is. Phenomenal.
What lift are you going to improve by
the next time we see you? Snatch.
Snatch. Was it very
terrifying getting over 100 pounds?
It was during a competition.
So you weren't really thinking. You were just going
balls to the walls. No, I just go for it. Yeah.
Phenomenal. Well, I'm very happy
you got a fit aid while we were recording
this and going through the averages because we needed a female
to talk about the females.
What's your current training?
What does your current training look like?
Five to six days a week.
Just a regular CrossFit class.
I love it. What are you doing here at the Grand of Games?
We are watching
Blacklisted HQ.
Blacklisted HQ.
Yep. Our buddy Nate Dietzenbach.
Are they really blacklisted?
I don't know. Maybe.
BlacklistedHQ. I know what they do.
Behind the scenes. Awesome. Well, thank you for joining us.
Tell your friend thank you for...
Make sure you get double fit aid for sitting here and listening
to us ramble about nothing.
Thank you.
What was it? Becoming Brooklyn?
Check her out. Check her out, friends. What's the next stat that we got here? Thank you. What was it? Becoming Brooklyn? Check her out.
Check her out, friends.
What's the next stat that we got here?
Right on.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
So we can talk about what we think about the people who are qualified.
So anyone who's in the one-ton club.
Oh, yeah.
And maybe the differences in the averages. So what the averages of the totals are.
We have that information.
So where people need to get better. Are there specific lifts that are lower in the differences?
I'm sure there's some variations, but I think I would have to go back and analyze that and see, you know,
are people who are in the one-ton club proportionally stronger in certain lifts versus others?
That would be
interesting to know yeah uh right on what's the to get into the one-ton club what is the average
squat that you need well the average squat of the people in the club yes yeah so that you're at 291
oh sorry that's just for women i gotta switch back to the men. You want to do women first? Yeah. No, let's go men.
Okay.
Let's talk to 85%.
Then we'll go back.
So if you are qualified for the one-ton club, then you have a 4.
You're back squatting 485.
I am not even remotely close to that.
That is a massive number.
Is that the mean?
That's the mean, right?
So we have.
So what's the number?
I'm guessing.
Yeah, so what do you think is like a ridiculous number?
I think 45 is ridiculous.
I've never even walked that off of pens before.
So we have at least 100 people at above 515.
And then we've got above 600 looks like it's around 20 people.
Wow.
And above 700 is nine people.
Everyone above 515, what are they snatching?
Are they still on the twos?
Let's see.
Snatch is this column.
Yeah, there's a lot still on the twos.
So there's like a 605 back squat and a 205 snatch.
A 176 with a 563 back squat and a 2.05 snatch. A 1.76 with a 5.63 back squat.
Yeah, so those people are just taking a bar and trying to put it.
That's all muscle snatch with 1.76.
Or it's like we can slice this data more, right?
So some of these are disproportionately low.
Like I don't know how you can back squat.
If you're back squatting 540 and then your snatch is 105,
I don't know if that's...
You could just lift.
You should be able to lift the weight above your head.
Yeah.
You can either lift something or nothing.
Yeah.
And if it's something and you can squat 500 pounds,
then it's more than 105.
Yeah.
So there's more filtering. The real key here is just maxing out your squat and your deadlifts.
You've got the big lifts.
They're going to be half your score, maybe more.
If you can max those out, that's your best chance.
Yeah.
And then everything else will follow.
Yeah.
You need to be – what have we been talking about nonstop in this entire
program, how to get people really freaking strong?
Yeah, strength is the key.
Strength is the number one thing that matters.
Right on.
What else have we got in here that we need to go over before we –
what other stats have we run?
So we got all the – we got – what do you think people are snatching in the one ton?
In the club, what are they snatching?
225.
I think you have to hit 225 or 100 kilos, 220.
Yeah, so they're at 238
That number, yeah that's crazy
I would have 100%
If you can't snatch 225
Generally speaking
We're not friends
I'm just joking
I don't trust you
I think 225 is like
Strong people Can get to 225.
Like if you put the work in, 225, 100 kilos is the number.
It's two blues.
Two blues.
There you go.
Two blues.
You build that confidence.
Right on.
What else?
For now, I mean, let's see.
We've got some people of interest.
I mean, we can go over the top lifts of each.
Yeah.
You want to do that?
I would love to know what the very, very high end of all of these is.
Okay.
So for the men, I mean, the men are squatting.
There's the 750 is the high one.
The high for the snatch is 500.
And the next one is 352.
So maybe that one.
That one's definitely not. that okay that's a fake
person i'm assuming that's not a legit lift it very well could be well look their squat is low
so we need to squat 225 that that those aren't real numbers yeah okay that's especially if they're
benching 245 you can't yeah eventually the next one is cleaned up once we once we have the videos
on the profiles yeah which is that is that available? That's available right now, yeah.
So you can go into your profile and post either YouTube or Instagram,
embed a clip.
You just copy the link, and then it will embed it into your profile.
So then other people can go in and kind of see if you've actually performed the lift.
And a lot of people might not have their historical ones,
but it's still a cool feature that if you have it posted somewhere,
you have it sitting somewhere, then you can upload to YouTube or Instagram and then go in and link it.
And pretty soon you'll be able to, you know,
just when you're browsing the leaderboard,
there'll be like a little video icon next to each score.
So as you're just kind of browsing around, you can check.
You can see really clearly whether or not there's a video attached,
and you can kind of go in and see that profile.
And then there's all kinds of stuff we can add from there,
like the upvote, downvote thing, verification.
Right.
So it's endless.
Yeah.
I mean, this thing's brand spanking new.
We've only had this for a couple weeks.
A month.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like we're building it as we go.
It's awesome.
Yeah.
We're adding features left and right.
Killer, dude.
Where can people find you?
All the smart people stuff.
All the statistics.
The leaderboard.
All the engineering stuff.
You can't tell me how to live is the Instagram.
You love it every time.
I've been loving it for like the last decade.
You can't tell me how to live.
Doug Larson.
Yeah.
Can people tell you how to live?
I'm easily influenced.
If the right incentives are there, I can be persuaded.
Follow me on Instagram, Douglas E. Larson.
Doug Larson's valuable.
I'm open to options.
You're a victim of your options.
That's right.
That's right.
Get over to theonechallenge.com.
We have so much cool stuff going on.
You can get in there, insert your PRs, snatch, clean jerk, squat, dead bench,
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Our goal is to get you into the one-ton club.
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