Barbell Shrugged - Andrea Ager: Faith, Fitness, and Finding Your Passion — Real Chalk #55

Episode Date: December 25, 2018

Andrea Ager is passion personified. She attacks everything she does with her whole heart, whether it’s running track, competing in CrossFit, coaching her AgerBomb seminars, or sharing her faith. As a high-level athlete and an instructor, she knows it’s crucial to never stop learning about training and nutrition for herself so that she can better serve her clients. Andrea’s drive to never stop improving has inspired some crazy decisions, like leaving the CrossFit coaching staff to branch out on her own and moving halfway across the country to train for the Games with a team she’d never met (and get to know a certain guy better 😉).   Andrea’s a Colorado native now living in New York, but we used to train together in LA back in the early days of CrossFit so you know this episode includes some reminiscing about Regionals (RIP), references to He Who Should Not Be Named (that’s Dave Castro for you uneducated folk), and a discussion about the realness of competition depression and the danger of letting your performance as an athlete define who you are. We share some pros and cons of being your own boss, make fun of the “Instagram models” New York is overrun with, and explain the necessity of having several pursuits if you’re going to make it as an entrepreneur. I ask Andrea to talk about her experience with Faith RX’d, and she gives the Cliffs Notes version of how she met her husband (first year of marriage insights included! Listen up kids).   It’s a conversation between two old friends with a great vibe and a ton of helpful info for people interested in setting out on their own. It’s a little deep, a little silly, a little weird (just wait for the gummy bear analogy), and a lot awesome.   Enjoy! – Ryan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show notes: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/rc-ager ------------------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/ barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

What's up, everybody? Right now, it is currently Christmas Eve, and you may or may not be listening to this episode on Christmas Day, December 25th, when it comes out. I happen to sit down with an old friend, Mrs. Andrea Ager. I'm not supposed to say Ager anymore. I'm supposed to say Montalvo. I probably said it wrong. I'm sorry, Andrea, if you're listening. Anyway, Andrea and I were really good training partners way back in the day when CrossFit was fucking awesome. It was such an amazing time. I have these pictures of us just sitting outside on the sidewalk in downtown Los Angeles. And it's me and one of our old training partners named Basil and Ronnie Teasdale. And it was just such an amazing time that it's really, really, really hard to emulate now.

And it's really, really hard to even imagine right now because during that time, we were like going to other people's gyms and throwing down. And it was just such a – everybody was welcome at every gym. And CrossFit was still like super exciting. You didn't even know like how to train for it yet. You just did everything in hopes of getting better. And that's exactly what Andrew and I did actually during that time. And we did so many things that probably were not smart, but we had so much fun during that time. And it's just such an unbelievable time.

And because of those times, I have such an unbelievable relationship with Andrea. And we just shared so many times together that it just it just makes for a great friendship um after this show it was the first time I had seen her in god knows how long it was probably years actually like where I actually like had an actual conversation with her and got to hang out with her she actually kidnapped me very shortly after the show and I stayed with her for two nights uh in Brooklyn we recorded this in Manhattan right after the show. And I stayed with her for two nights in Brooklyn. We recorded this in Manhattan right after the Strong Fit at Solace New York gym. She came to my hotel. We had a great podcast. And then she's like, you're coming with me. And then I hung out with her in Brooklyn and

I was supposed to go home the next day. I wound up changing my ticket. And we had such a great time. I actually almost wish that we did the podcast after we hung out because there were so many funny things that happened during that time and how much different that she is right now. So if you are an Andrea Ager fan and you haven't heard from her in a while, this is going to be the episode that you really want to listen to. If you just want to listen to some OG CrossFit people talking, this is also a great episode for you. She's also really involved with her faith, so she brings that up quite a bit. So there is a little bit of everything in this episode, and I'm really excited for you guys to listen to it. Before we get into the show, I will go over the sponsors that we have for the show, which makes everything go around. Right now, currently, just going to be going off of the

Ryan Fisher products. So it is Christmas time, and I think that during Christmas time, it is a very important time to not forget about your fitness and not be like, you know what, I'm not going to do anything until New Year's Day, because that's when New Year's resolutions start. And that's what I'm going to do my thing. But you know, really, the longer that you guys hold out, and you really just don't do anything is just like the worst that it gets. And you start digging yourself into this hole that just gets really, really, really, really hard to get out of. So I've made a bunch of eBooks recently that are just for pretty much everyday people, people who are traveling, people who are into the things that I'm into currently, and people who just want to change things up quite a bit. So the first thing that I just came out with literally just today is a 30 days of dumbbells only workouts. So you can do these babies at home,

you can do them on the road. I did a lot of these during my travels, like especially when I was in New York. When I was in Canada recently hiking, I went to Norway hiking, went to Italy, I went to a bunch of different places recently, saw a bunch of people for the podcast. And the universal thing that everybody has everywhere, even in my mom's basement in New Jersey, is we have dumbbells. So I made a 30-day book of really, really hard dumbbell workouts. And if you use code XMAS, capital X-M-A-S, 25, you can get 25% off of that ebook right now. All you have to do is go to CrossFitChalk.com and click shop. You'll also see the other ebooks I have on there.

There's the high intensity interval bodybuilding stuff, which is literally, it's gotten so big that I honestly can't even comprehend it. Like people are so, so into it. And it's just kind of something that kind of casually happened over time. Like my knee is really messed up. It's the reason I don't compete anymore. I think a lot of you guys who follow me know that. So I don't do a ton of the Olympic lifting, but I love the conditioning and I love like just lifting weights. So I do bodybuilding movements and

conditioning. I call it high intensity interval bodybuilding kind of stole the hit acronym acronym of high intensity interval training and just kind of made my own thing and people are really stoked on it. So if you guys want to check that out, that is on the website as well. And you can use code REALCHOCK in all capital letters and get 20% off of that as well. Beyond that, you guys have my online program, which is the everyday CrossFit workouts that I make that thousands of people around the world are following right now. That's a complete life of its own. I spend a ton of time making those workouts and I think people are just really, really inspired by them. And they love the style.

It's something that you have never seen before. So that is also available on CrossFitChalk.com. And that's $20 a month. So that's a pretty easy one for you guys. If you ever download that, you get an app. And basically, you can change the date. And you can go back as far as four and a half years when I first opened the gym and see every workout that I ever made.

So for $20 a month, you literally never have to think about making workouts ever again. It's also great if you are a trainer or you just work out in your garage, you just need workouts to get on the fly. And that all makes sense and flow really, really well. We also have workouts on the weekends. On Saturdays, there are team workouts. And on Sundays, depending on when you started the app, I had Monster Mash back in the day, and now I've turned it more into like a detox day because I need people to kind of chill out. But there is so much stuff on the app for $20 a month

that's out of control. But if you have low commitment levels, you just want to buy something and be done, the e-books are a great way to go. I also have a Kettlebell e-book. There's all sorts of different stuff on there. So that's enough about me, and that is enough about talking about Andrea before we get

onto the show, because now it's time to get actually into the show and into your ears and drop all the knowledge and drop all the news and drop everything that we can drop. So let's drop it. Here we go. Here's the episode number 55 with my good friend, Andrea Ager. All right, everybody it's Tuesday, which means it's time for another real chalk podcast. And as always, I usually have people on that. I know people that I really want to talk to people.

I'm excited to talk to. Um, we're with Andrea Ager. I'm very, very excited to be here right now. I haven't seen you in how long? Did you know that my last name has changed? Oh my God. it did change.

But for everybody else out there, they remember you as Andrea Ager, so we have to do that. What is the last name now? So my last name is very hard for people to say and spell, which is fun. It's Montalvo. Montalvo. Okay. That's not a bad name to have to get switched to. Yeah. Andrea Montalvo. Could have been way worse. Yeah. I fully did the switch. A lot of people were asking me if I was going to keep Ager and hyphen Ager Monsalvo. I'm like, are you freaking kidding me? I am putting people through that. Even some people were like just keep Ager or

joked around about things. I'm like, okay, Agerbomb is basically my middle name anyways. It can stay my nickname. I'm not going to lose it. Your Instagram is still Agerbomb. It will probably stay that way. I really related to Aerbomb, like, my whole CrossFit career. So I didn't want to lose it. But I definitely feel like I'm 30.

I'm in a different stage of life. I'm still doing very similar things. You are 30 now, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And so, you know, when I was big into CrossFit, agerbomb reminds me of, like, 2011, 2014, like that area. And I'm like,

dude, it's almost 2019. Let's, let's get an update. You know, it's crazy how that time I remember when you like first started using Instagram and I was like, I wasn't into it yet. Cause I still just like wanted to the night that I started my Instagram. I remember. Yes. It was the initial birthday. We were in, we were in Miami. Yep. We were at the Miami crush games at the crush game. And Noah Olsen told you to get, he told you to get Instagram and you're like, I don't know.

And then you got it. I was like seeing what people at the gym, like Ruben Rojas were doing with it. And I was like, okay, you know what? I'm not going to take a picture of freaking, you know,

pictures are not going to catch on. Yeah. Facebook's not all about pictures. I remember seeing the photos too. And I was like, you know I'm not gonna take a picture of freaking you know pictures are not gonna catch on yeah Facebook's not all about pictures I remember seeing the photos too I was like this is terrible yeah I'm like I'm not a photographer I ain't gonna pretend like one and now now everyone in the whole world pretends like they're a photographer it's crazy literally when you go walk outside right now we're in New York City we're actually in my Hilton hotel room in New York City um you start walking around and everyone has professional camera they're all outside right now we're in new york city we're actually in my hilton hotel room in new york city um you start walking around and everyone has professional camera they're all doing little poses and like normally you'd feel so embarrassed like i'm almost embarrassed for them sometimes depending on who it is and i'm just like okay like this is the world we live in yeah it's true

there's like different uh we work stations that are planted all over new york city uh we've got the five boroughs everybody that doesn't live here. We've got Staten Island, which isn't really like a borough at all. And then we have Brooklyn and I live in Queens and the North of me is the Bronx. And right now we're in Manhattan. So these are like, you know, a hub for social media and brand marketing and lots of power and money is here. So it's kind of a crazy change from my, a little bit more laid back, I'd say Los Angeles experience. You know, everyone was a lot more chill.

The weather was actually nice. Here it's like you're freaking on the front lines. You're taking the bullets in the city. So I grew up in New Jersey, which is like not far from here. And I used to come here like once a month with my mom. We'd always walk around and go shopping and whatever but my mom isn't like one of those people who likes to stay in the city or like she's scared of a lot of things but um I never got a

chance to like really stay here for like a few days and like really like feel like I was part of New York for a couple days so I've been here now for three days four days I don't know and how do you feel? And I love it. I really wish I could spend a good amount of time here. How much more do you love it here than you love it in L.A.? Or are they both equally the same but just different? They're different. They're so different, right?

I feel like you can't even compare the two. People will be like – because for our wedding last year in October, we went to S.S. Park. And all my New Yorker friends came out for the wedding, you know. And I've been living here only for three years. But everyone from the East Coast that traveled and made the made the trip, they got to SS Park. They looked around and they're like, why would you ever leave this place? Like, what were you thinking? I'm like, OK, well, for a lot of reasons. But, you know, when you grow up somewhere, you kind of see it as that hometown feeling.

And you want to, like, adventure and see other stuff. And I grew up in Denver. I saw it. You know, that's where my family is. And I love it. I love hiking. I love snowboarding. Wait, where's Essex Park?

Essex Park is in the mountains about an hour away from Denver. Okay. And I grew up in Denver with access to, like, every mountain range I wanted to go to. I went to college up in the mountain in a different mountain range. And so I feel like I got the experience, you know, like I definitely saw what there was to see. And like, whenever I go back, I still feel like I'm like adventuring, you know? Um, but when I moved away, I just was like, oh my gosh, there's so much more to see than I've ever even experienced. And like, I just always felt addicted to the rush of like a new city, a new restaurant,

a new place to see a new gym, a new, new friends to make. That's what I love about this podcast right now. It's like one thing that I've been doing recently that makes me travel. Like I have to go travel to talk to people. Okay. All right. And also I've just been huge in adventuring stuff recently. Anyway, if you've seen, I've been to like, I don't know if you've like,

but like all I do is no, I don't know how much you follow me, but yeah, I've been getting out and doing a lot more stuff recently. So that's been like something that's really up my alley. I really want to see, I want to go to Boulder, Colorado real bad. I've never been. People love Boulder. Whenever I tell people that I'm from Colorado in general, they'll like look at me kind of surprised. Cause I don't know if a lot of Colorado and Colorado or Coloradians, I don't know if they venture into New York city and stay, but a lot of people are like, Oh my gosh, that's where I want to live when I grow up or like, whatever. And I'm like, okay, you're 30. When are you going to grow up? But, um,

or there'll be like, someday I want to visit there. Like that's, I already know I'm going to love it. And I'm like, they have this mystic feeling about that city and that state. And so I'm proud to be from there. I think LA and New York are similar in the ways that they're a huge draw. People want to work there. People want to live. They want to start businesses here. They're huge for entrepreneurs, entrepreneurial entrepreneurs.

I love saying words on camera when people are going to judge me for it later. At least I don't have to spell it. I don't think anybody that's listening to this really cares if you said that word right. Yeah, I mean, I love that it's creative. We live in a creative space, you know? Like I was saying earlier, there's WeWorks everywhere. And you should see the outside of those because they're all people that are drawn to being creative in general. So everyone has a video camera.

Everybody's doing some weird fitness thing outside. all people that are drawn to being creative in general so everyone has a video camera everybody's doing some weird fitness thing outside everybody's you know randomly posted up outside with the city you know in the landscape and they're like painting a picture while they're like leading a podcast on it i'm like what is happening here but it's always cool to see like wow like so many young people in here like exploring and like being themselves you know so that's i i just love i do love this city it's really cool and i see that you love the city like when i look at your instagram like i love this city and blah blah and i'm like oh that's cool she's so happy um so like when i think of andrea i definitely think of the loud personality and you always late which you relate to this podcast a little a little bit a what? Not classic Andrea late, but you were a little bit late.

I actually have grown up and even though when I – You're on time now. Yeah. Like I have – because Montalvo is not very late. I'm actually punctual and I give other people crap for being late. That's how much I've turned around. Yeah. Today I was like – I saw that I would have a huge walk to get here and then a train.

I'm like, dude, I'm not going to get on the subway for three stops and walk like 25 minutes. So I'm going to take the city bike. And like, I do take city bikes a lot, but I never go through these super popular areas on one. Cause it's like, I didn't have a helmet with me today. I'm like, okay, I'm going to die. And I was just like, if I make it there texting you, I'm like, if I'm alive, I will be on

your show. But, um, yeah, it was cool. I got no text messages, only Instagram messages. Dude, it's all about the gram. If you didn't put it on the gram, did you need to do it? But yeah, this morning I already had a full day. I had like a 6 a.m. client, a 7 a.m. client, and an 8 a.m. client. So by the time I got done with 9 a.m. and like commuting changing and stuff i was like oh my gosh all right so that's what you were doing

that's what you're doing in la too you had your clients right and then you had your seminars and what else did you have going on so this is my fifth year with the seminars you're still doing the egg bomb seminars yeah yeah and i still call them that i might change the name i've been thinking about rebranding a little bit um is the premise the same or have you changed some of the things? Have you added some of the FaithRx stuff to it? No, actually, it's still almost identical, which is crazy to think that in CrossFit, like the reason why they were popular five years ago was because they were high skill, super fun movements, breaking them down totally to the basics, going down to even the PVC pipe for the snatch, really drilling the ring muscle up and giving people tons of drills and space to explore that. Um, and then, you know, doing a lot of handstand pushup stuff. And then I do like a fast workout at the end, but with, with all of the stuff and some lecture, it's usually seven hours. And I remember doing that,

like the first like 10 seminars would like, I was playing with things. I was programming different every time. And I'm like, dude, just put a staple together, offer it. And then if people want to venture away from that, no problem, but offer them this structured seven hour thing. And I've been doing the same thing. Now the last one I taught was like one Oh two. So 102 seminars in five years. So it's actually crazy. I have a list list of all the places I've been list of like all the gyms. Cause I never want to forget those boxes, you know, that I've been to that I've instructed at that. Like, I felt like I, I made lasting impressions on or like made relationships with people. And I still have people reach out to me and go, Hey, do you remember me from a seminar

you taught in 2014? I'm like, Oh my gosh, I was a child back then. You know what I mean? I'm like, I don't even know what I was talking about, but now I feel like more like mature in the sport, mature in my goals. A lot of things have changed. My even understanding of nutrition has changed a lot as well, because as an athlete, you just, you, you, you put yourself as like a canvas and you bake yourself a project and you go, how can I, as an athlete, get better at my sport or not only better, but like get to the level I want to compete at. So you become a professional at training people like yourself. So the people I don't know how to train as a coach, I've learned to train, you know, and the people that are a lot like me, I'm like,

oh, let me tell you something. You know what I you something. I got a lot to say about athletes that are naturally endurance athletes. Um, you know, not extremely lactic people that have worked really hard for many, many, many years to get stronger and people that want to compete, people that love competing, people that have a passion for the sport and are willing to really do anything to dial into their nutrition, get the gymnastics, get the strength, the weightlifting down. And honestly, what we thrive on is technique. Athletes like me that don't have a natural body for gymnastics or huge quads to squat clean. We thrive on getting good at weightlifting, getting good at technique and just going, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to emphasize on my pulling and pushing and gymnastics. And I'm just going to hang on. I'm going to emphasize on my pulling and pushing in gymnastics, and I'm just going to hang on.

I'm going to teach myself how to push to a level. Hopefully, they'd be competitive, and I'm going to hang on for as long as I can. And I started CrossFit in 2010, the beginning of 2010. I was like such a newbie. I was on fire, super passionate. And here it is nine years later, and I'd say every year I completely changed some methodologies, went back and forth with things, got wiser in the way I was going to do things, the way I was going to spend my time. It's amazing when you're like, when you and I were working out together in LA

and then we would think about like people like Neil Maddox or someone who was like older and be like, well, why do they work out like that? Or like, why do they, why do they take three rest days a week? Or like, why are they stretching so much? Or like like why do they why do they take three rest days a week or like why are they stretching so much or like why are they doing this why aren't they why are they just doing what i'm doing or whatever and like you get older and you're like okay well i have to start doing this or i have to start doing that or i'm gonna get injured or like i have imbalances so i'm gonna start doing more single leg stuff or whatever it is it is crazy and i think it's crazy i think when you were like i don't even know what I was saying back then

like on my seminar is like, I think for you to be like this person in this space that's remembered and to be like entrepreneurial, you have to like just start doing something. Yeah. And like when you just started doing the seminar, like no one else was really doing that. And they were like, holy shit.

Yeah. That's really, really cool. And then it was really unique in the beginning and it was super, super popular. And like, I've had to adjust to with like different seasons of CrossFit, um, training. Cause CrossFit goes through seasons too. Like our sport is not stagnant. Like everyone knows that it changes all the time. So adjusting with that. And then there was a time where I was trying to get a red shirt. I was chasing after that level one instructor position. And, um, I went through,

I, I call it a tour because each tour was like, you know, a couple of seminars of growth. And so I'm like, I went three tours across the level one, you know, learning and growing and trying to keep up with them. And I actually really loved it. I felt like there was a lot of politics involved. I wasn't expecting, which is totally fine. I know how it works. Um, but at the end I like was like, you know, I want to go on my own instead. And there wasn't any hard feelings. I remember having many, many, a meeting with Dave Castro and him giving me advice. But at the end he was like, no one's doing the seminar thing on their own. Like no one's doing that own road of their, like for their own brand or whatever. And he's like, um, you know, please just be respectful to like what we've taught you. And like, you know, when you go your own direction,

you know, like, I just hope it doesn't become a ton of athletes all going their own directions. You know, we want people to like stay in the CrossFit community. And I was like, okay, okay. Like I was like, basically like, I'll do my best. Bye. And then like, I just randomly went off and was just like, I think I have enough tools. Like I have enough tools. And honestly, like working with a team was something I desired more than anything. But then when that didn't really feel like an option or it felt like it was so far out of reach, I was like, for the meantime, I'm just going to be doing my own thing. And I loved it so much.

I actually loved not having a boss. Like that was really fun to me. Like it's the best. I love being my own boss. If I wake up and I'm like, all right, in the ring muscle-up section, I'm going to pull out a couple of bar muscle-ups. I'm going to throw it in there and show them how similar they are. I'm like, today, I'm going to do that. I would just randomly decide that. And no one was watching me and telling me

that I couldn't do it. And then like, you know, people would be taking notes as I was, you know, going through this process and they would give you tons of feedback, which I loved. But that was something that I loved later when I was doing my own thing is I was like, oh my gosh, no feedback. And I had to learn how to give myself feedback. I'm like, all right, today, was I on time? Did I stay with my own personal schedule? Did I, was I early?

Did I help set up? Did I, did I use my time wisely? Did I give them enough breaks? Were they like exhausted by the time, you know, mentally, by the time we got to something, you know, I'm like, sometimes I like flip them straight upside down after lunch. And I'm like, all right, we made you do handstand pushups first thing after lunch next time, not a bright idea. So like things like that. And I'm like, you guys are totally my guinea pigs, you know? And, um, so I always like to, in the lecture part, it's very low key.

I love to tell people about life. I like to talk to them about competing in CrossFit, my experience on the competition floor, and also what I've learned. Because there is, anyone can teach the snatch. Anyone can teach a handstand pushup. But it's about what you put into it, you know? And a lot of people want to know what the steps are and what they should focus on. And a lot of people have a lot of, I mean, we can say it's 2018. A lot of people have stress and anxiety over their performance. And so for a long time, I didn't realize how important the lecture was, but now I've considered it in one of the most

important parts of our day because people get to, they get tools on how to manage where, how much real estate of their mind they're putting into CrossFit. And that is a huge part of it. And so every business that we're in fitness wise, I think the experience is the most important part. So like, that's a huge experience component of your seminar. Like when you go to Barry's and they have like lights flashing or whatever, right? Like that's part of the experience that experience. The workout is great, but they really love that experience. And SoulCycle. And we're all anywhere. When you go to a CrossFit gym, you have a certain coach

and the way that they talk to you and the way that they explain things. So I think that is very, very important. I assume that's changed a lot over the years, the conversation. Yeah, it has. I would say that I was more – I've been telling basically some of my same stories from back when we were bros and we used to hang out all the time. And so I still mention things about the CrossFit Games in 2011 and, you know,

winning – like the year of 2012 when I had like three first-place finishes. One was a tie where I tied with Valvo Bro. I'll never forget that year. It was a really special season for me. But out of all those good things I had, my lowest placing was 11th place, my lowest. And I didn't make it to the games that year. And you at the same, you know, the same time period, you know, made, uh, made a,

made waves at regionals and we both did really well. And we both came really shy. I think we both got fourth in the same year. Yep. It hurt. It hurt. And that was so many years ago, but there's still so much to learn from it because I look back and I'm like, I can admit that that year, everything I put out on the floor was who Andrea Ager was as an athlete. It was because they were all PRs of all the workouts. Like I gave my best performance. I PR'd my max snatch or I matched my max snatch that year and things like that. Yet I still got beat.

And like, how do you handle that? How do you handle knowing that your best wasn't good enough? If they had the game scoring. Yeah. If they do now, you'd be. Yeah. It would be quite different, right? Yeah.

And so it's just changed a lot. But I remember having to deal with that. It sent me into quite a long depression. I remember there were six months where I couldn't even go into the gym. If I did go in the gym, I couldn't even do like a muscle up. Like I would, I would get the bottom of like a 205 back squat and like not believe I could press it up with my legs. Like this is like the bottom of the bottom that people talk about where they reach that

rock bottom and they're like, I couldn't even go in without crying. I would go to work and they'd send me home and I would like become nocturnal. Like all of a sudden I was sleeping all day. I'd be up crying all night and I'm like, dude, like what's wrong with me? Get it together. And every day that I thought I would get together, I couldn't. So now I'm able to like emphasize with people that go through depression and things like that because I've been there. And I used to think when I was like happy, SoCal, lucky, you know, like 22 year old, dude, just wake up and be happy. It's not hard. And now I'm like,

dude, I've been there where, you know, there's days when you wake up and you actually can't control your, like this emotion of maybe not feeling good enough or maybe not knowing your value or your worth. And it all stems from there. So when I tell that, you know, that story and I can, you know, kind of speak from a little bit of experience and maturity of getting through that, a lot of it for me goes back to my connection with my faith. And so that kind of helped me grow as not only like a person, but as an athlete, because once I started realizing to stop taking the pressure off me and to start living for God, that changed everything. And there's a verse that's my favorite. It's like Colossians 3.23 23 and it's do everything that you do and whatever

you do with all your heart and do it for the Lord and not mankind. And once I started realizing that my performance was not up to what my judges thought or what Dave Castro thought or what, he's a popular name on this podcast today. I'm not going to bring him up. Yeah. We have different relationships. We have old memories that involve him too. Side note. I at one point called Dave to tell him how unfair it was that he treated Ryan a certain way. And we got to hash it out involving mother calls and involving a lot of one-on-one talks that were super old school. It was really cool.

But yeah, I remember looking back into it and, you know, I started realizing how much I cared about what other people thought and how much I cared about, you know, how much I placed against my competitors. And now I'm able to see that like when you back up and you see it for what it is, like this is what I love to do, but this is not who I am. I am so much more like when I have like my mom around, my mom's like, you know, looking at a video of me overheadings, overhead squatting, like 200 pounds. And she's like, why does it have to be so heavy? Like she doesn't get it. Right. She just sees that I'm putting myself in extreme danger for no apparent reason. And like, I had to explain to her mom, I don't know. It's just, it's lifting. It has to be heavy. So like, and I'm like, man, like when my parents see me, they see me as like a daughter or a sister or like a cousin to my cousins or like a best friend to

like my childhood friends or like now, like I'm definitely a season of life that I've never been in before. I very new I'm a wife and like, they see me as these things. And like, this is a part of who I am. And that if CrossFit is 90% of who I am, I'm going to put way too much pressure on that. And the other 10% of my life is going to absolutely fall apart. And now I can walk in freedom knowing that I am God's daughter. I am a daughter of the King of all Kings. He created the universe and yet he still placed every hair on my head and he knows every piece of my heart. And that is an understanding that I hope everyone from my podcast, from your followers can understand that like we can have a relationship with God here on earth and it's better than anything else in the world. And so when I get to connect with people and share not only my faith,

but our creator and who Jesus is, Jesus was a messenger that came down to heaven to share about God. He is known as many things, the wisdom of God. He's known as God's son. He's the son that he gave on a cross to die for us and all of our sins. And for me, the gospel is what I ride my whole life on. The gospel, that is what I just shared. The good, the gospel is what I ride my whole life on the gospel. That is what I just shared. The good news is what is why I'm here in New York city, because here we are in the battlefront on the front lines. It's a lot going on out there. And there are people here that don't know the Lord and this life is not forever. We're not going to live here on earth forever. And at one point, who knows when, like we're going to die. And whether you think you're going to heaven or whether you want to talk about it or not,

or whether you think religious is just, you know, being shut up in a, in a church and keeping to yourself, my faith is not private. My faith is personal and it means a lot to me, but it's not something that I'm not willing to talk about. And so is this something you always had? Were you always religious or during this time you became more than, you know, I would say everyone is on a spiritual journey, everyone. And some people stay put for a long time and then they have a jump or a growth spurt. I would say that's kind of where I was. I would say I was around people

that kind of put me towards facing CrossFit as my God, which is actually kind of scary for me to think about that now. But I'd say now where I'm at right now is I have had people kind of turn me around and face the Lord and like, see what is real, see him there. And now I've gotten to experience him in totally different ways. Like this is like just an example, but prayer for one thing, I have seen prayer do amazing things. And it actually is like scary to like, even think about when I'm thinking about my memories right now of like things I've seen, because prayer is like a relationship that you can have with God, where he'll answer your prayers. He'll answer. And people think, well, sometimes I pray and God doesn't answer. And those conversations are so cool because God has this perfect timing and his timing is like

for our lives. And we're all supposed to be at different places at different times. And like, for me personally, like I always wanted to get married. That was like something that was so important to me. And so even when I was 20, I was going through relationships. And even when I was like 25, when I knew you, I was going through relationships. And I, I always wanted that end game of like, you know, having a husband and family because I knew that was like maternal. There was something like ticking inside of me that wanted that, but God didn't deliver that to me for 10 years. And so for 10 years, I chased other goals thinking, well, while I'm single, I might as well chase these things. But it wasn't really until I started

getting to know Jesus and having a relationship with him that God was like, Hey, I'm enough for you. I want to fulfill you completely in this. Everything else is that cherry on top. You know, everything else is the icing. Everything else is everything, but I'm the center. And I, and I started going, okay, you know what? My priorities need to change. My timing of my life needs to change. Am I really who I say I am? I had to look deep inside and see things I've done, said, the way I was living my life and go, okay, let's check myself out. Because I'm really good at looking in the mirror at my Olympic lifts. I'm really good at looking in the mirror on my gymnastics and how I'm performing.

But I wasn't really good at looking at my character and giving myself my own self-check. And I think that from CrossFit, that has been a great way for me to enter into my faith life because it's given me a way to look at my weaknesses and go, wow, I want to grow in this. Or I want to grow in this. Or I say I'm this, but I'm really kind of a fake here. I got to grow in this, or I want to grow in this, or I say on this, but I'm really kind of a, kind of a fake here. I got to grow in this. And, and I started realizing that there's so much more to grow than, than just fitness alone. And I think fitness compliments faith really well, because there's a lot of parallels. And so for me, um, you know, meeting Peter, my husband and being mentored by

my, uh, my mentor, Becky Consulman, who started Faith for X was a huge part of my, my growth. And I would say like training partners or coaches are like our best way to grow in a sport like CrossFit. And like, those are my best memories of like growing people, um, in training. But I would say like relationships, like best friends or significant others or, um, mentors in the church are, are the, are the ways that I've grown the most in my faith. And a lot of times when you're – I guess this is one continuous ongoing run-on sentence. No, no, you're good. I'm waiting for my little questions to come in. Yeah, okay.

But you're still cruising pretty well, so you're doing good. Yeah, if anything, if I'm good at anything, it's freaking happy. Everyone's heard me talk a lot, so I'm sure they're happy to hear you talk. I guess to kind of finish that thought, because it's kind of like a wrong going running sentence, is that something I'm realizing is that we have so much freedom, you know, and a lot of times we don't explore it. And I guess I'm seeing that I used to put God in this box where I would like go to church on Sundays and like go, all right, God, you can be God in this box where I would like go to church on Sundays and like go,

all right, God, you can be God in this scenario, but then I'm going to leave and I'll see you next Sunday. And then like, I started realizing, I'm like, God probably laughs at me. And he's like, dude, you're the creator. You're the creation. I'm the creator. Like I'm way bigger than you. I heard this analogy that was like a glass jar and it's a kid looking at the glass jar with a bug inside and like he put the grasshopper or the bug whatever it is

inside he knows where he's at he knows what he's going to do with the jar he knows when he's going to let the bug free he knows all the answers to all the bugs questions and he's just watching it and he's like observing it and like loving it. And, you know, maybe he's taking pictures of it or showing it to his parents. Who knows what he's doing? But he has all the answers. The bug does not know what's going on. And it helps us when we look at it like that because you're like, wow, God knows the plan. He knows what he's going to put us through.

We don't have all the answers, but we don't have to either. As long as we're striving and we're looking for the answers and we're trusting in God's plan that's all that we need to do you know but for me I needed to check back and look back and go all right God I need to trust in you so what does that look like today so is that kind of is the faith rx stuff a mixture of the fitness and all it's both worlds combined okay so what do you guys do like in a typical faith rx seminar? Okay. So, so we have camps. Oh, it's a camp. Yeah. And we have three camps. I don't really know anything about it. Yeah, that's okay.

Let's just start from scratch on that. We'll start from square one. So the on-ramp of FaithRx camps. And for anybody out there who doesn't know what it is. Yeah. So I, I teach at FaithRx and I love it because I was impacted personally by attending the leader, the, or the meetings and the meetings. There's different chapters too, right? Like there's, yeah, there's an LA chapter, like a New York chapter is like, is that how it works? Yeah. Yeah. There's chapters all over the world. So faith or X, you guys is a global mission and it is, um, a nonprofit and it's been around for four or five years, like somewhere in between there. And they just started by wanting to make

an athlete testament of, um, of the gospel. And they wanted started by wanting to make an athlete testament of, um, of the gospel. And they wanted to be able to share that. Like, it's like a Bible, but it's not intimidating because it's not as big. It's like this tiny little thing.

And they wanted to make it for the CrossFit community. So Becky, one day, like she, she's a competitor. I met her. That was a gridly girl. Yeah.

Yeah. She's been competing at a high level for everything. She could for decades. Like she's, she's, she, um, was made it to the Olympic trials in cycling. She's been competing at a high level in everything she could for decades. Yeah, she's insanely good too. She made it to the Olympic trials in cycling. She's an incredible athlete.

She's a six-times CrossFit Games athlete, three-times individual, three-team. Like, she's incredible. And she ticks like an athlete. She worships sleep. And so the Lord one day woke her up and was like, you're not going to sleep until you make this, this new athlete, new Testament. And so she was like trying to put it off, trying to put it off, trying to make it other people's ideas. So some, someone would jump on that was passionate about, about it. But she really felt like a timing of God being like, okay, now. So she was like, okay, let's go. Like,

I need to get some sleep. So I got to get this done. She started emailing athletes, emailed rich Spieler, got their stories, Dan Bailey, all these people that are pioneers of the sport and their story and their relationship with their faith, whose people's usually changed throughout their life. You know, their story of either coming to know God, or maybe even of just what they've experienced recently. Um, and their pictures was put into this athlete Testament. And so they made, um, 20,000 of these athlete testaments and they've been giving them out for like four years at the CrossFit games. Um, that was their first initial thing. And they didn't really think that they were going to do more than that. They gave out a couple thousand and they made friends with people. They made a

presence in the community, but then eventually they started saying, okay, we're not going to just be a brand. We want to do more. We want to, we want to empower the local athlete that's in their CrossFit gym that wants to grow in their faith that doesn't really know how. And these are for people that maybe would never step through the doors of a church. And so really Faith Directs is a bridge. It's a bridge in both ways. We help our church friends get frigging fit and we help our gym friends get spiritually fit. And so it's like totally a combination of the two. And so the local chapters, there's 90 all over the world. They're everywhere. In every major city, there's 60 in the U.S.

They have one or five. So it's growing super fast. The cool thing about it is it's not for profit, and there's only four people, full-time staff. So you can imagine that the amount of growth they've experienced is like unreal compared compared to what they thought was going to be like. And so I came on rather early. They started saying, OK, let's make camps. Let's make camps for these people in these local chapters to go to. And for us to be able to not only lead leaders in how to lead their chapters, but also have people grow that are local.

And so my first one that I taught at was in Denver, Colorado also have people grow that are local. And so, um, my first one that I taught at was in Denver, Colorado after I had moved back home. And I was just, I was teaching gymnastics with Chris Wheeler and I was also leading a small group and I had no clue what I was doing. It was amazing. It was like, I'm winging this and it's amazing. Am I fooling anybody? And it was so fun. And, um, I just started like seeing the leaders that were on staff and their passion for it just helped me grow in my passion. I started, you know, um, speaking with people about my personal life and things I wanted or things that, you know, I desired, or even, I guess not problems like a therapist, but more like, Hey, I'm dealing with this. Like, what's the best route to go? Or like, I really want a wise, you know, advice. Cause you know, if you, if you ask for advice

from all your knucklehead friends, you don't know what you're going to get. You know what I mean? So I kind of started realizing five different answers. Yeah. Five different answers. And so I started just getting close to the leaders and, um, I loved coaching. I still do. I love teaching CrossFit. I love helping people grow in their understanding of fitness so that they can apply the hat, the, the lifestyle we have in health to their regular lives. I love that. And so it's a three day camp and they call them iron sharpen iron camps for slang. We call them ISIs.

There's been 15 ISis over the last four years so a couple a year um they're all over the u.s we go like from east coast to west coast back to middle of uh you know midwest and then we go coast to coast people fly out to them and we get people from the uk we get people from the bahamas we get people from the last camp we were at we had like three international like 20 people from out of state we were at, we had like three international, like 20 people from out of state. And like a lot of people flew there. It was very fun, but are you doing the water on the waves thing? Side note? No, no, I'm not. Are you? I am. Oh, cool. That'll be fun. And where's that going? It's going to the Bahamas. Oh, that's what made me think of it. It's the

week after waterpalooza. Yeah. Dude, that's going to be a party. I know it's going to be cool. There's a lot of people on that boat party i know it's gonna be cool there's a lot of people on that boat yeah it's cool and so uh so like a typical day would be like friday night they have a talk you get into a small group the small group is like kind of your crew that you're going to be with for the whole weekend because there's like 60 people that come to these so having a group of like five or eight people to like share your thoughts with and kind of like reflect is like super good 60 to 80 people is Oh, like 60 people. Okay. Yeah. That's a lot of people. It is. Yeah. And like every time it's people that either want to start

a chapter in their own cities or they want to help one grow or they just want to like grow in their faith. So they're, um, Friday night, Saturday during the day and then Sunday. And, um, uh, Spencer Arnold is amazing at weightlifting. He teaches Power Grace Performance. And he has had so many accolades as an athlete, especially in the weightlifting scale as like on a national level. But he's also led so many people like Chrissy Aramo through the CrossFit games and to their like top 10 spots. Like he's an incredible coach. And so he leads the snatch and weightlifting portion.

And then we do tons of breakout stuff where everybody's like, you know, they're maxing out in their set of three from the hang and then they're going to a low hang. Then they're coming from the floor for a single. Like it's super exciting. People PR all the time. And then like throughout, like we'll have lecture, we'll have spiritual lecture on like, okay, where are you at? And we, we actually put it as like, are you a spectator in your faith?

Are you an athlete in your faith? Are you an athlete in your faith? Are you a competitor in your faith? Or are you a coach? Where are you? And we want to help you wherever you're at, get to the next level. And so that's kind of like the mentorship or like we are, our fancy word for it is the discipleship is seeing where people are at and helping them get to the next place, which is a lot parallels with fitness, right?

It's like almost identical. And so through scripture readings and through like different lectures throughout the weekend, at the very end, they talk about how to share your faith because a lot of people, they have like almost a muted effect where they're, they find a really hard way, a hard way of like understanding and taking it in and being equipped to share or mentor others in their faith as well. And so it's been a really cool process to help in that as well. People give talks on lecture on performance and programming. One lecture that me and Becky give is on the athlete mindset.

And it's actually really cool because your attitude going into a workout or your performance going into a workout, your nutrition, your preparation, your planning, your strategy, all those things are parts of it. Your performance is not only the most important thing. There's like 10 things that all go into it. And that one performance is just part of it. I know the way that I've gone to a workout now is so much different. I can still get the same times. Yeah. Like I can go back and do an old workout that I was probably like going to vomit before I started and put so much pressure on myself and I get the time and I'd be like, Oh my God. Yeah. Like I can go back and do an old workout that I was probably like going to vomit before I started and put so much pressure on myself. And I get the time and I'd be like, oh, my God. Yeah, I can't wait.

I got that time. And now I can do it like casually and get the same time. And like. And it's more sane. And it's like way more sane. You know, like I didn't like slap myself in the face and like I might I maybe had my shirt on. I still take it off a lot but i remember you like that slapping yourself in the face just to get amped up freaking out um any and a side note by

the way if you ever are in a room with ryan and he's doing an open workout and he asks you to judge his wall balls say no anything that's what it was going below parallel just say no not as a strength he has many but that's not a strength my uh this knee now i don't know you don't know me as much anymore but like my knee is like totally toast now that's the only reason that's the only reason i don't compete anymore oh injuries are a part of it it really is it's been going on for a while mentally with athletes once they get injured they feel like they're nothing you know like if they put all this pressure on themselves they walk away from the sport like now what and i literally would feel like nothing if i didn't like open my gym and have this podcast and like i have this huge online community now that i've never even got to talk to you about i don't

think and i have like all these other little things going on and if it wasn't for that and the people that like encourage me on a daily basis that i get messages from and stuff i would definitely have a hard time like being okay because like you want every single thing in my body it's so bad feels fine like everything is fine and i just can't get below parallel like on my left on my left knee so the joke i made was actually a sore spot and kind of sensitive freaking a just kidding but it's been going on for like the last like couple years and then eventually like i watched a video of myself do the open two years ago where we had the pull the chest bar pull-ups and snatches the squat snatches and i snatched 265 the last ladder and i have a video i'll show

you when we're done and like you watch me catch it and i'm so crooked helicopter yeah catch as you're standing up freaking helicopter into the left it was really bad and like i'm watching what my knees and hips are doing and literally i was like thank god that year right freaking it was all dumbbells yeah and i was like oh my god this is sweet yeah you know like this is exactly what i needed i was like i'm going to God, this is sweet. Yeah. You know, like, this is exactly what I needed. I was like, I'm going to the games this year. I was in such good shape. Like, the dumbbell stuff was perfect. And then just, like, wall balls, other things I was just getting trashed on because I can't really get below parallel.

Like, it feels like I'm so low and I'm just not. But so it was fine. By the way, this is also just another side note. I would like 11 side notes that's my goal i think i'm at four we'll have a little we'll have a little dinger in here ding ding yeah that'd be great um this is just a comment on ryan's fitness even though you guys probably you know know about his fitness but it's because his hamstrings and his quads are so gigantous that he's not able to go below parallel sure Sure. The knee pain is part of it, but if you've

ever seen this dude's legs, you'd understand. Okay. I have no problem going below parallel. I have the longest femurs in the world and skinny legs. So I go boom, straight down. I like literally just can't even do that if I wanted to. It's like such a weird feeling. I feel like I'm so low. So so yeah i watched that video of me doing those snatches and i was like i don't care how i feel because i don't i don't feel like i'm snatching like that but this is my last year because i don't want to be 10 years down the road and and i'm like literally like walking around twisted or like everything else is broken and i'm like i need to concentrate on certain things. So that was when I started the Chalk Online community.

And I started like kind of developing this new way of working out that I was kind of doing on my own. Where I was taking out a lot of Olympic lifting. But I was still adding the cardio. And now I have like this whole little thing going on with that. And that's a lot of people have been picking that stuff up. And it has been amazing. So like maybe how FaithRx is for you. and how the things that you have going on with that and your seminars is kind of how i feel about all the stuff i have now yeah you're passionate about i

see that all the way from uh east coast to west coast yeah i i keep close tack close uh close uh eyes on like all my old friends and like what they're up to what what they're what they're doing with their life who they're with i swear every time I saw Ryan in the last like six years, I'm like, Hey, how's your new girlfriend? Hey, how is she? Oh yeah. I always have a new girlfriend. They're all gone though right now. I'm totally single at the moment. Ladies. No, I'm always like into just going, okay, where are you at? You know, how, how's it, how's it been? You know, what's your life like? Cause I know every year changes so much and every season is different. And, um, you know, I, I think it's really cool to see someone on a,

on a Instagram online level, but then also still care about them personally, you know, because like what we show to the world isn't exactly like what we're going through either. Like that example that I had earlier about going through depression, it wasn't, um, you know, it wasn't during that time that I was always like showing myself crying in the bathroom, like whatever, you know, like I was probably posting a picture of me smiling on the beach, you know, because that's how life is. You know, you, a lot of time hide a lot of times hide it. But now I feel like social media has gone to the, to the way of being more transparent. and I think that vulnerable and transparency is is really healthy for people and I think it can be an outlet for them to be

honest with who they really are because when people aren't like that then they just compare and there's a really good quote by Theodore Roosevelt that's comparison is a thief of joy and I found that to be true in my CrossFit career as well because when we compete we're naturally stacking ourselves up against the others even when we're not competing so in what we look like what we wear how we dress how things fit what we look like doing a movement versus someone else that maybe has different range of motion or better mobility or whatever the situation is we're always comparing and I'm actually able to have more joy in my training without having that natural everyday comparison of, am I good enough? Because I am, I know I am. I know that I'm in the best shape that Andrea Ager or Andrea Monsalvo has

ever been in. And for me, that's really, really important. I care about diet. I care about nutrition. I care about my faith. And I'm like, you know what, when I take like the whole picture and I see, think of all these different spheres of, you know, focuses, I think they're all thriving right now. And that's more important to me than anything. Am I happy? Are you kidding me? I've always, I've been happy my whole life, you know, like happy is such a changing verb, you know, like I like to use the word joy because joy is really like it's kind of like who a person is you know where i was like happy it can leave it's fleeting you know it's like oh that person smiles a lot they must be happy sure i'm smiling around you because i'm awake but like when i'm by myself you don't know how i feel yeah you know and so yeah i would say you know i'm

probably the most joyful i've been and there's a lot of people who seem so happy on the gram and they're not at all and you get to know them and you're like whoa you're actually kind of glasses half empty yeah you know like forget like just the smiles and like the attitude and stuff like you just meet them and they're just like not even that person at all right and i get really bummed on that because i know people look up to like so-and-so who has so many hundreds of thousands or millions of followers and you meet them and you're like, so bummed. I'm just like, cause I meet crazy people all the time that I'm like,

and I'm so excited to meet them. And I'm like, Oh wow. That's such a sad thing. But it shows you that it's actually our building them up in our minds based on what they're showing us is actually a false sense of reality. It's not real, but it's us putting them on a pedestal that creates this image. And so they're doing a good job at giving us that information because we think it's real. So we're living in a false sense of reality.

And then we get to reality. That's when we're disappointed. And I think that happens a lot in life, too. We build something up and then we get to it and we're like, uh, this is not what I thought it was going to be. It's like, it's exactly what it always was. In fact, let's label this, this episode. It's exactly what it always was. That might not be too bad actually. Thinking of the titles does take me a while. Yeah.

I mean, even just like fitness, like competing. I'm not competing anymore. I don't know if I would call myself retired. I was going to get to that at some point. Do you ever really want to? You know what? I would say our sport is growing very fast, and I love that it is. However, I can admit that it has surpassed my, uh, surpassed my abilities. And so, you know, I can admit that like my genetics and the way my

body is and the way that God made me is exactly who I am right now. And our sport, it goes towards athletes that have a certain schedule, a certain mindset, a certain youth, a certain genetics, a certain ability. And for now, when you look at the sport of fitness, you have to be a robot. And that robot might not mean perfect genetics or perfect, you know, attitude every day going into training. And it might only, it might just mean that they have 10 years of gymnastics experience or they have, they're able to adjust when going into a competition.

Oh, I thought I was handstand walking today. Oh, I just found out I'm walking upstairs. Cool, I can do that. Oh, I now know that I'm walking upstairs and then I'm going to go across beams. I'm totally ready to do that. Those are parts of our sport. Yeah, those are parts of our sport that it's just progressed so much that it's it's it's unbelievable how much it has it's i love looking

at our grassroots and seeing that yeah i have like a certain ability am i going to get better in crossfit for sure but at the rate that our sport is um continuously making more challenging and the weights are progressively getting bigger like and heavier and heavier and heavier like i that my body frame, I think me being able to clean and jerk 220, which was me at my best a couple of years ago, that was my max. You should have seen it. It was like, I looked strong, but I looked like it was my max clean. And then I'm going for the jerk. It was perfect precision of the jerk. And my arms literally look like they're going to snap, but they didn't. And I stood up with it and I'm like, that was amazing. Like that kind of, you know, high for me will sustain a lifetime. Like me overhead squatting 225 was incredible. I'll never forget it. But for me to be able to choose overhead squat 260, or maybe me to be

able to clean 250, I just know what I'm capable of I've been doing fitness for nine years and I love like my past and I love my future but at the same time I know that I'm not going to be a games athlete anymore and it has been hard for me to like really come to terms with that and what kind of started that was a massive back injury I never had surgery but in 2016 I went to the crossFit games. We got fourth in the world. What a high that was, right? Like, it's like, it's so sad going into the games and having all this pressure on you and getting first at regionals with a group of athletes from all over super teaming it. And then at the end of the, you know, games getting fourth and being like just shy of the podium, but being sad, we didn't make it on the podium.

And then, you know, I go home, I stopped training for a couple of weeks. I get myself total relax. You know, I needed to just depress or what am I trying to say? Decompress. Yeah, you got it. And I've still never done that. Yeah. Yeah. You've never decompressed. I know you live compressed. I've never taken more than like four days off. Yeah. And like, I was thinking I was recovered because I had taken such a long break and I was like, okay, I'm going to get on a lifting program. So I thought I'm going to do this awesome back squatting program. I've been meaning to do for a year and I got around to it. And my body's way of telling me that I literally was nowhere close to taking the time off I needed to recover from such an intense season.

My body's way of doing it was like just completely snapping in half. So like, yeah, like actually if you come, I'm putting up, that's my lower back. So yeah, no, I'm, I'm actually making it more comical than it was, but between Justin Kotler literally rolling me from my stomach to my back and my husband, who was my fiance at the time and him carrying me to my husband's car after he rushed home from work to take me home. And after, you know, being best friends with an ice pack for a month, I started realizing, is this worth it? I started realizing, is my back going to be able to sustain getting heavier squats in me? You know, like I was like, oh, my gosh, like just all the positions I put myself in with diving under heavy snatches. You know, my max snatch was I've probably tried 170 like 10 times.

I've never gotten it. But all those attempts. I will never forget the time that you were doing the split snatches. Oh, yeah. Those are in for a while. Only because you made them me and uh don't forget uh ronald uh nope everett oh yeah yeah well he still does them i think i think he still does too yeah um making them cool cool that was a such an amazing time i remember because you were like i can't squat snatch that like during the I remember because you were like, I can't squat snatch that. Yeah. Like during the open. And then you were like, but I can split snatch it. And then like it was.

I would like touch the ground in a lunge. And I'm like, the judge didn't see. The judge didn't see. And I would like stand up with it. No, but it was legal. Yeah. And I remember being at Brick and like there was a million people there. And you were doing split snatches with weights that like you couldn't squat snatch.

And I was like, this girl is a special human. Yeah, It was progressive. I was before my time. I really was. Yeah. And, um, yeah, so I don't know. I was before my time. I was before my own time. It's like talking in the past, you know, like I should have been made in 2030. Um, yeah. So I guess just looking at it now, I'm like, you know, I went through that back injury and I used to see people, you know, sprout back up from, you know, whether it was a surgery or, you know, uh, going through a ton of training to, you know, make them back into training athletes and just go back into it. But guess how long it took me? It took me a year and a half to be fully healed. Really? I didn't know that a full year and a half. And during that time I would see people

and like, I'd be on the verge of tears and they're like, how are you doing? I'm like, good. Yeah, I'm doing good. They're like, how's the house training? I'm like, oh, you know, uh, non-existent, but you know, it's fine. Like I'm fine. And I'm like, literally so emotionally, like, where am I going? Like if I'm not competing for the games and my goal was of course, to make it back individually, of course, after having that team experience, me and Christian Harris, we were like, we're going back individual. We're making it next year. And he went and did amazing at regionals. And I had to sit on the sidelines going, I can barely do an air squat without pain. So how am I going to get back into, you know, getting squatting the weights I want to. And so deadlifting ironically feels great.

I still get some back pain if I go up above a certain percentage, but I'm totally fine. And so for me, I take class. It's the craziest thing. Me and Peter, I work at a gym. My husband's an engineer. He gets off work like every day at like 4.30. He drives home. He has a long commute.

We take the 5.30 class, and we're best friends. We go into our class. We cause, you know, trouble. We joke around. We, you know, lift as heavy as we can. Taking class is my you know trouble we joke around we you know lift it's so much fun we go i like crossfitting more now than i ever have yeah it's enjoyable you hang out with people you push them it's fun and so we go a gym called crossfit dutch kills they have a strong emphasis and a presence a strongman community so they do tons of yolks, hair, heavy deadlift or heavy, uh, yoke carries, um, uh, can't kegs and, uh, like crazy. They call them circus dumbbells that are

like a hundred pounds or whatever. And they're like, it's super fun. Like you just play. And, uh, I, you know, I've just, I've started to see that like learning and growing for me as an athlete, this is the perfect place for me to be at. Like, I'm like learning new ways to even do things. I never thought I would with a back injury. You would never see a picture of someone lifting a stone at full extension and going, I want to do that. But like that has been part of my progression that has been part of me rehabbing almost. And so I think, you know, doing anything with, you know, a little bit of wisdom and a little bit of safety and precaution is wise and so for me i'm

back in action but i know now like seeing where i'm at and seeing where i was that it's not possible for me to keep competing so it's not necessary really either it's really not necessary either back to your grandma it's just not yeah exactly you know exactly and it was fun for a while and like i think it's fine like once you have all these other things going on and you hit the adult button, it's just like – I'm way happier now than I was when I was competing. Wow. I mean I don't know about – I would never take back any of the times that I had, even like the really hard ones. But like – and I talk about that all the time. I love every phase of my life.

Like absolutely. And I love like how I knew you and how I'm seeing you right now. Like, I could tell you're totally different. But you're still, like, an amazing human being. I'm still me. One of my favorite people on the planet. So, like, I just don't think it's really necessary. And I feel bad for a lot of the people out there who are fighting for this journey that may not ever

happen for them and then they're also going to have the depressed feeling of like oh like whatever like they didn't even get to the point that we got to or even more or any of that and then they just feel like it's worthless like i have like a huge respect for people like who have these huge careers on top of their their athletic performance like patrick velner's an architect and like fukowski's a cpa and like some of these people like i think that's like what's really important i want that message to like always like radiate to people when they listen to these type of things it's like don't give up on like other things that you have like at the same time right so like maybe for you don't lose Yeah, like even for you, like in a roundabout way,

like your faith, it was something that you never really like lost touch with and it wound up being kind of part of what your career is now. Yes. You know what I mean? So like even though you didn't know it, you still kind of had this thing, like it was always there.

You know what I mean? But if only fitness is your thing the whole time, you know, it's like very, very easy to let yourself down and let yourself get into a spiral of depression like for sure and i'm not trying to depress anybody out there right now but like i think we've used the word depressed like yeah 20 times no i know i i the last time i said it i was like okay i gotta like say something now yeah i think of another word to describe that feeling but there's a lot of people who listen to the show

we're 85 like male and um okay and they're like between 20 and 30 years old and a lot of people who listen to the show where 85% like male and, um, and they're like between 20 and 30 years old. And a lot of them really want to go to the CrossFit games and a lot of them listen to the show and they think they're going to get tips and stuff like that. And you are, but, um,

I just think that there's for some of you guys. Yeah. Um, look, look across the room at your significant other and get the girl listening to this show. Okay. Because these girls need to be hearing these messages because I wanted,

I love it. And I want more girls to be listening. I mean, it girls need to be hearing these messages because I want it. I love it. And I want more girls to be listening. I mean, it might've changed recently. That's crazy. You know, what's crazy too, is I have girls on the show all the time.

We'll talk, we talk about pregnancy. Like I'll have like prenatal experts on and stuff, but there's some of my best shows. Wow. But if it's 85% male, I think that's interesting. So maybe,

maybe their wives are listening. Yeah. But male, I think it's interesting. So maybe, maybe their wives are listening. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's really important to, to have all these different little things kind of going on and not just have one. I mean, for me,

I feel like I was like, I was so gung ho on the fitness thing and I didn't even know what my life was going to be. Like I had no idea. I'm happy that it worked out the way that it did but i'm such a rare rare rare scenario in that in that whole thing oh 100 it's like i'm 97 to 3 or 99 to 1 i love made-up statistics aren't they great but i mean like not having known what i wanted to do i didn't even want to own a gym i literally remember when you i did not

no i was like never i don't ever want i remember like i'm gonna move to oc and do this i mean ronnie were like okay good luck you weirdo like after seeing ronnie made being a gym owner looked like the hardest thing in the freaking world um yeah he's so much different now it's unbelievable whoa we don't need to go there no i know no we don't but he's just but he's happy he's we have similar friends me and ryan do of course because we spent years doing fitness together one of them is ronnie teasdale who i know he's been on the show before um another one is basil beattie oh i haven't talked to him in so long yeah i actually saw him a couple months ago him and his girl came out to new york city and i got to spend a couple days with him my husband but it's been cool too different dynamics, too, as we've grown up.

Because back then he was a professor at USC. He was teaching CrossFit, loving gymnastics. Speaking Russian. Speaking Russian. Okay, by the way, he was teaching Russian literature at USC. And at the same time, he was so movement focused. And now he's a gym owner in Idaho. So random, right?

Boise, Idaho. And I'm actually going gonna go see him i'm visiting him in two weeks to go um take my retake my level one that i um irresponsibly let run out and so i actually had my level one my level two and my goal was to get my level three and it just wasn't possible for me at the time and i let them both run out so i have to start over i'm like okay it's fine's fine. Like it's not, it affects me only because I want to be able to like have a fun weekend of reminders and, you know,

go experience it with the community. But he was like, yeah, like I'll hook you up. Let's go. And you know, come to Boise for it. So he's having it at his gym.

So I'm going to go do that. And so I'll see him. So we have like these common friends that I know we both keep, keep in touch with and keep a, you know, an eye on. And one of them too touch with and keep a, you know, uh, an eye on. And one of them too is Jen. Jen is, uh, you know, still doing unbroken designs and she's, uh, I met her two months

ago. She came to my gym, worked out. Cool. And she's back with, um, her ex, but they broke up for a little bit, right? Um, yeah. Her husband. Yeah. For a little bit.

Now they're together and like, they seem super happy and little bit, right? Yeah. Her husband, yeah, for a little bit. Now they're together and they seem super happy. And he's finally a firefighter. He was trying to be a firefighter for like 14 years or something. The longest volunteer work ever. That was insane. Yeah, I'm so stoked for him. I think they're in Philly. Yeah, they are in Philly.

They're really close. I see her a lot. And especially the Unbroken Design stuff. It's cool to work back and forth with them. And yeah, we have these common friends. And know we're like keeping you know an eye on because we love them like at the end of the day we're separated by geographic um limitations but the instagram makes it so easy to just catch up really really quickly and um you know ryan's mom living out here too i've been lucky to like have him in the area a couple of times. Yeah, she will definitely give

her a shout out. So yeah, it's, it's so cool to see that the CrossFit community can start small and then it grows and grows and grows. And like everyone is six degrees away from each other. It really is. Like I meet people all the time that like, Hey, I dropped in and I met your friend's brother. I'm like, what? Like stuff like that. It's like such a small world thing. But, you know, if you cross enough paths, this network is like undeniable, you know, and then you get into the faith world. It's way smaller. You get into the Christian world.

It's even smaller. And so this made a little Instagram video. That's why she paused. Yeah, of course. He's on the ground right now because he missed it. I had to. His phone face missed it. I had to phone face. Um, so I guess the only thing that I haven't talked about really that I kind of want to mention because it's a huge part of my life is like, I guess relationships and marriage in general,

I am learning so much about marriage. And I used to have this idea that there was like this perfect person for you. And that person was going to accept you exactly who you were. And they were going to be, they weren't going to change you. Like I thought that like I'm going to be myself and I'm going to always stay this way and that person's going to be perfect and we're going to just merge like a puzzle piece and it's going to be like Christmas card worthy of life. And then I started dating and realizing that was not how it works. And man, it's crazy how in a relationship there's always one piece of the puzzle that's kind of missing yeah yeah and yeah that's very true and for me i'm still saying oh don't worry i know where those i know where those puzzle pieces go

yeah yeah and like i mean never settle you know because i feel like that idea i had was also what we talked about earlier as putting on a pedestal. And then when you get there, you're like, wait, this isn't what I thought it was going to be. And it's like, no, it always was that. It always was exactly that. You just made it sound more Mary. But I'm learning that, like, I have a lot of weaknesses, some with communication, some with following through with what I'm going to say, what I do, some with like socially like over committing myself, some with, you know, doing chores around the house or, you know, doing like what I set out to, but I don't have enough time to do things like that. Time management and everything we do affects our spouse, everything.

So every choice I make all day, let's say I make a hundred choices or decisions. Some are important. Some are kind of like whatever, not as important. Almost every one of them affects my husband. And I'm like, I'm starting to realize that like marriage is so like highs and lows of like flowing with someone else. Like it's crazy. Like everything he does affects me. Like everything he doesn't do affects me. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is so humbling. Like day in and day out. You're just like, Hey, yeah, sorry about that. I fell short in this area, but did you see I did that? You know, it's like kind of amazing. But I would today, this is really something fascinating to share for you,

you viewers or you listeners that, um, maybe are like, maybe with someone that's very different from you. My husband and I are very different. We are extremely different. I wouldn't say we're opposites. Um, but there are ways where we have adopted each other's oppositeness and like actually started merging like a gel, like two gummy bears that are merged at birth and they start being each other. Like that's what our marriage is like. Like now they are one and it's like two colors, but one gummy bear. That's us. Yeah. And this guy worked out twice a week. Okay. Yeah. He now works out

like 12 times a week. I'm like, yo, you need to slow down your fitness level. Okay. What are you trying to do? Pass me up? Yeah. had that on video right now yeah like it's hilarious actually like and this is just like um you know you can't expect your significant other to change you can't be like hey i'm dating you but i want you to change but naturally as you grow together if you're both willing to merge into one gummy bear stick with it um you will change. That's the name of the show, One Coming. Merging into One Coming. Yeah. And something funny too was like Pete comes from the church side. He comes from the church background.

He got saved as we call it or just, you know, really gave his life over to Jesus when he was 19. So that was 10 years ago. And so he's been like growing in that way and has become, I would say like pretty spiritually mature, but he has a really big passion for youth, um, for guy ministry, for baking his relationships and friendships into more of a mentor, um, relationship. And, um, I had a huge patness passion for fitness and I was kind of entering and merging

into the spiritual world. And now it's crazy to see, like he weighed almost 200 pounds when we met this guy is like five, eight at his tallest, okay? But maybe actually 5'7 at his tallest. I'm like an inch and a half taller than him and I always give him crap for it. My last girlfriend that I just had was like 6'4. Was super tall. Okay, no yelling, no screaming.

That's rude, okay? Get it together. And so, yeah, he's like 200 pounds of I want to be as nice as possible milkshake. Okay. But like he has like a really handsome face. And I'm like he's got really good Latin American skin. And I'm like he's Puerto Rican. And I'm like, okay, like he's nice.

What is going on here? Do I like him? Like I couldn't figure it out and then like as we started hanging out we like started really like each other and we and we didn't live near each other he lived in jersey and i lived in colorado and as we talked on the phone every day i'm like where is this gonna go like how is this really gonna happen and then out of the blue like i started praying like crazy praying that god would open doors for us to if we were gonna going to have a relationship, make it clear. I wanted clarity. I didn't want to be confused about what was going on anymore. And the more I prayed for clarity, the more things

started dropping into place. I all of a sudden got offered a job at CrossFit Queens, which is in the middle of Astoria, New York, which I'd never even visited before. And then the same week I got offered to be on a super team with all these amazing games athletes. I, some of them I'd never even met. And then some of them were moving to New York city to be on the team. And then a week later I was like putting it all together and was like, okay, you know, I got in this relationship, these two things and I'm like, okay, I'm moving. And so I, you know, made the decision within a week in two weeks from that week or that day, I had all my bags packed and I was literally in New York city and I'm like, what's up? I'm moving here.

And I like took it on. And I'm like, that was like one example where God like provided this clarity that I could just follow this path. And it was like, I was willing and like open, like looking for these signs from him, you know? And so, yeah, so we, we started into our relationship going, okay, I'm very committed. Like, it wasn't like, all right, let's just like, try this out. Like, let's wing this. It's like, okay, if I'm going all the way to your freaking East coast,

freezing cold subway riding city, I need to be around and know I'm out here for a reason. And so not saying that you need to like make someone committed further, you know, faster than they're ready, but we both were very intentional. And I think that was super important in our relationship. And so it was cool as the CrossFit Games grew and as my training was a huge priority, I saw how giving he was and how ultimately sacrificial he was as a boyfriend. And that was attractive to me, but it always made me feel really guilty. And so it was really not ironic because I don't think that there's such thing as coincidences I think god uses these seasons as to teach us things. But what was really cool is that right after The games when I got injured I started wanting to just give back And I started going okay

I know that for the last like seven months of our relationship A lot of the focus has been on my eating my sleeping my training my cooking my Cardio my going to the gym and getting something. So I forgot it. Am I doing this? Am I doing that? It was our life. Like a lot of times revolved around me and that selfishness of training and being competitive is actually, I think like a really hard thing about our sport because building a brand and being, you know, active on social media and performing a certain way is a huge part about building a brand

and that can't last forever. And especially in relationships, it can be very, it can be a very, very hurtful to relationship. And so the coincidence that I, you know, got injured and had to take a step back and got to really focus on the relationship, it actually helped me grow a lot because I was like, Oh my gosh, wait, what life is not about me. Oh my gosh, what is this life? It's not about Andrea and her performance today. And I had to take that humble pie and freaking gulp it every day. Like I was like, Oh my gosh. And so, I mean, I really, I'm, I'm thankful for that. I really am. And, and, and P is like, he's such a cool guy. Like, obviously I love him. I freaking married him. But, um, we ended up

getting engaged in our relationship, even though some people thought it was like fast, like we were only dating for, um, we're dating for about a year before he asked my dad to marry me. And then this boy hung on to the ring for six months and then asked me to marry him at a year and a half because that's how guys do it i guess um and then we got married six months later so by the time we were like at the altar we had only even dated for two years so it's pretty i think rare i think that's you think that's like a good timeline i thought so too but like some people in my life at this point in my life i think i would know after a year i would know yeah because people date for like five years and then maybe marry or maybe move in i know after like six months yeah you know yeah exactly six months and then like the next six months to a year is like

trying to figure out if you're really gonna stay there or not yeah if you're gonna commit six months you're like i know and then like the next six months is like what are we doing yeah exactly followed by like one month of like i'm gonna leave but i don't know when oh yeah definitely no those are like almost mandatory in breakups yeah it's pretty much standard it's so still there seriously like i'm actually still there currently no no but hey there's a light at the end of the tunnel ryan i'm sure that someone will come and sweep me off my feet at some point. You're a catch. Any single listeners, those 15% of females that are listening, totally kidding.

Totally kidding. I mean, we've got a wide range. Wide range. But yeah, so it's been, now we've been married for one year and it's been a lot of give and take. In the process, Pete has done a bodybuilding show where he lost 35 pounds. Okay, who loses 35 pounds? It's like his stomach just fell off

and then there were abs. I'm like, okay, that would be nice. I wish I ever felt like I had a transformation like that. I've looked the same for like 10 years. So we laugh about that a lot, that every picture we have taken in our relationship or friendship has looked I've looked the same and he looks completely different like there's been times

too where he's like getting a bit of it back and like he's like oh I'm gonna you know go on this trip for a bit and like I just have to know that like 30 down years down the road I have no clue what his body's gonna morph into but I'm like so happy with who he is as a person I don't really care yeah you know and like same thing with me like who knows what I'm like so happy with who he is as a person. I don't really care, you know? And like, same thing with me, like who knows what I'm going to look like, look like, or whatever, but that's not the most important thing at the end of the day. It's who you're with, you know, like it's life's going to happen. Things are going to change. And as long as you're with the right person, that's what matters. And so it's been, it's been actually really cool to see him on his fitness journey. And, um, he did really well in a bodybuilding competition that he did. He even

placed in it actually, which was really cool for him. Um, and now I actually hate admitting this, but he actually, he actually beats me in workouts two or three times a month. Yeah. And I'm always like, if, and I know, I know when I see the programming, if he's going to be me, because if it has pushups or heavy deadlifts or knees to elbow freaking random skill of his I'm like oh crap here it goes it's going down it's going down and I have to be like on my game or else I'm not gonna be able to hang and so like we always just like laugh at it when it happens and he's like I beat you I'm like I know I'm still going you're not I know and it's so it's been it's been cool but he's also seen me spiritually grow as well so we've kind of like merged in that

way as well I remember he came from the church background. And so when we moved to New York city to, um, he moved and he was my neighbor. He relocated from Jersey, which was like seriously pulling teeth to get him to leave New Jersey and cross two rivers, bro. 45 minutes away. Yet I picked up and moved like 10 States away. And my credit is the same and he moved to new york city we settled in queens he was my neighbor and while we were neighbors he kept saying we got to dive into the local church we got to do this we got to do this is his job the same or yeah yeah he's so he commutes he's an engineer he works in long island now so he changed branches okay yeah um he's actually um a project manager who manages engineers that work on construction sites right now and utility.

So I just use like 10 words that are all like above my capacity of understanding. But I can only phrase them because he talks about it all the time. I know a lot about electricity. If anybody has any questions, DM me. But it's been cool to see like he kept wanting to dive into the local church and like get to know people and have relationships. And I, my instinct was like, I have enough friends or my instinct was like, I don't have time for that. And I was like, almost trying to pull back to my roots. And he was like, Andrea, this is good for you, Andrea, you got to do this. You

got to do this. And like, as we got closer in our relationship and as I started getting all these life giving relationships from the church, I was like, oh my gosh, sometimes you find someone in life that cares more about you and what's best for you than you even care about yourself. Like it's like eye-opening and I actually almost see like eventually way down the line, we're having fun right now. But eventually when we have kids, like having that idea of like what matters for them, it almost matters more than like what yourself is. And it's totally like a sacrificial love, you know? And like, so finding that and like giving people hope on this show that that's out there, I think is really, really cool because our worth and like our value, sometimes we think of like what we're doing right now, but you have value no matter what season you're in, no matter what you're going through. And like, for me, like I can see right now that

like my season could change tomorrow and my hope is still going to be in God. Cause that's the only thing in life that's not going to change. And so as long as you have a strong foundation, you're gonna be okay. Like you're gonna be all right. And sacrificial love, like God's love of giving up his son, Jesus on the cross for us is the best thing in life to intimidate or to imitate. Because if we can give that and we can show people that that should be our goal in life. For me, like sacrificial love is like putting myself not only second or third or fourth, but putting myself last so I can give or I can do something better with my time. And that has actually been life giving to me. Like I'm able to go, wow, this is like,

I know I just took it super deep again, but like in general, it's like such a foreign thought to not only put yourself last, but put yourself further down the line. I don't have feelings like that. Right. Cause I'm not super religious, but like, how would you say something like that for someone who isn't super religious like something like you just said again yeah in a for someone who's not who's may or may or may not become religious later on you know what i mean but like they want to hear the same message they want to feel what you're saying now yeah but in a different in a way that is relevant to them i would say because you're going to have people on this show who aren't really just as

well, but I want them to be equally as, you know, yeah. As come away with something. Yeah. But, and I think that people actually,

you're so fricking pumped over it. I want them to be pumped about it too. Like on every level. Well, I think about it like this is when you hear things about life and you get this, whether it's advice or maybe a certain point, a person's standpoint, you're going to get this like lump of dirt, right? And you're going to

shift through it and you're going to get the gold and then you can take that gold and you can leave and you can leave the dirt. That's fine. You can leave it the gold. And so if you're going to take anything away from this, maybe you take something from relationships. Maybe you take something about being a games athlete, or maybe you take something about putting something on a pedestal that really isn't worthy of being put on a pedestal. Or maybe you're going to take something away like, um, putting other first in the end is better. And that is super simple. Yeah, that's pretty good. But sacrificing, you know, whether it's your time or like who you are or like what is best for yourself for, you know, a significant other or like eventually others like people you love.

It goes a long, long way, you know. And like I just want Ryan to know right now that I actually had a facial scheduled that I canceled to hang out with him. Did you really? And that is sacrificial love. Just joking. I'll buy you lunch. I just joking. I'll buy you lunch.

I really did have one, but it was with my friend that was going to give it to me for free. So, but no, I'm just totally kidding about that part. But in seriousness, I can't imagine a facial making that face any better than it is right now. Oh wow. So many compliments. Oh my gosh. I'm still so youthful at 30, almost 31. I'm 32. So shut it. Um, so where can everybody find all the things that are Andrea? All the things. Okay. So my website is still www.andreaager.com. You guys can send it. Yep. It's super easy. You can, um, talk to me about, you know, setting up a seminar. If you're a gym owner, that's who I do most of my projects with a ton of gym. We have a ton of gym owners listening to the show. Yes, that's perfect.

I mean, I honestly, I love teaching the seminars. Another thing we have that I didn't get to mention is our workshops. Our workshops are only three and a half hours, so it's much easier as a gym owner, and it also has a different price scale set up. So it's more simpler, and that means as well. It's not as big of a time commitment, but it's also kind of less fun, you know. But I love doing those locally.

I do at least one or two of those a month locally. And I work with all kinds of different gymnastics or weightlifting skills, whatever you guys feel fits your community best. You can find me on Instagram at agar underscore bomb. You can find our FaithRx. Which is appropriate for being in New Jersey. Yeah. Right?

And New York. Bomb. How ironic. can find um our faith for being in new jersey yeah right bomb how ironic you can find our personal um faith rx chapter here in new york city at faith rx rxd is how it's spelled nyc all right thank you guys so much for hanging out with us so much for hanging out i love it that was awesome all right guys i'll see you guys next t. Thank you so much for listening. Ryan Fish, over and out. Over and out. Over and out. Over and out.

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