Barbell Shrugged - Courage and the Myth of “the Hustle and Grind” with Drew Canole — The Bledsoe Show #139

Episode Date: June 21, 2019

In this episode Drew Canole dive into getting out of your comfort zone, following your heart and aligning versus hustling and grinding all the time. Drew’s advice and ways to cope with adversity and getting the life that allows you to be you.  They also dive into best daily habits for optimal health and performance.   Drew Canole is nutrition specialist, transformation specialist and national spokesperson for the benefits of juicing vegetables for health and vitality. He is the founder and CEO of Fitlifetv, where he shares educational, inspirational and entertaining videos and articles about health, fitness, healing and longevity. Drew is also a best selling author, and founder of Organifi, our favorite superfood powder company, and one of our awesome sponsors! They are known for their organic, incredibly delicious greens powder, chock-full of superfoods to make juicing easy no matter your busy schedule.   Minute Breakdown:   0 - 18 following your heart to liberate your soul.  How step into bigger roles and deal with adversity at the same time.  Dealing with judgement and how to deal with those triggers.   18-29 Taking perceived risks, making big changes, being courageous. Science of thought and attracting abundance. Drew’s techniques to release money blocks, and  to attract money and abundance in your life.   29 - 42  Finding your “whydenity”. Drew’s book “You be You” detoxing your life, owning who you are, and what mindset exercises are used to transform your life.     42 - 50 Giving yourself permission to mess up and live life.  How to change your habits. Releasing dopamine after 35 years of age and breaking subconscious habits. Model the person who is already doing what you want and learn their habits.   50 + Going through phases in life to get where you are.   Understanding your life mission and continuing with personal development.  Drew and Mike’s routines for health and wellness and best optimal health. To order Organifi at a 20% discount go here → Organifi.com/shrugged You can also find Drew’s book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/You-Be-Detox-Limitations-Awesome/ --------------------------------------------------- Show notes: https://shruggedcollective.com/tbs-canole ---------------------------------------------------   ► Travel thru Europe with us on the  Shrugged Voyage, more info here: https://www.theshruggedvoyage.com/ ► What is the Shrugged Collective?  Click below for more info: https://youtu.be/iUELlwmn57o ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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So go get your drink today at Organifi.com slash shrugged to save 20% on your order. That's Organifi.com slash shrugged. Today's show happens to be with one of my friends and one of the founders of Organifi, Drew Canole. He's been on before. You enjoyed him. I had a lot of people shoot me messages talking about how much they love him. So we got to talk shop and share our little performance enhancing secrets on the show.

So enjoy. Do it. I think. Should we do some more eye gazing before we start? We're going to eye gaze. That'll be really good. I think it'll be good for you and me, but for the audience, it'll be pretty boring. I don't know if they're going to get weirded out through the audio, but here on camera. The goal is to always weird out the audience. You want to take them on a ride. That's my own internal compass at play. Yeah. How uncomfortable can I make the other person?

Yeah. And how uncomfortable can I be? How far can I push myself outside of my comfort zone? Well, there's that too. Yeah. Pretty far. I still hit the edge. Do you hit the edge? Oh, of course.

Yeah. What's your most recent edge that you hit for discomfort? Gosh. Talking about it may not be easy. It is hard. It would be in the realm of relationships, discussing past sexual partners with the girl that I'm with now, whom she's been potentially you know, potentially a mutual

friend with. And, uh, it's always, it's always a tricky conversation. You know, you gotta be real graceful. Yeah. I, I, I find that with, there's a lot of people who tune in this show are really into health and fitness and personal development, but there's always an area of discomfort. I remember I went and talked to, uh, I went to Spartan world championships and spoke. It was like, all right, you're really good at running yourself and being uncomfortable running or maybe dealing with cold water, but what other areas are uncomfortable? Cause there's areas in my life where I, like, oh, yeah, I've got this discomfort thing completely nailed down. And then something that I haven't developed myself in as far.

And that just becomes difficult. Something hits you. Yeah. That childhood wound that you thought you healed and you had control over. All of a sudden that four-year-old boy resurfaces and you don't even know it. Like you have no idea until it's too late. I had one of those last week. Last week.

It's like, oh, I've done the work. I'm good. I'm good. I'm coaching other people. I'm training other people on this stuff. Yeah. And the next thing I know, I was like, why does it feel like this inside of my body? Yeah.

This is scary. And we're under the illusion that everything has to be perfect. Like, no, I've dealt with this. I can deal with this now. I'm dealing with it. And then it's this lack of vulnerability and really just getting it out there, airing it, telling people what you're really up against versus holding it in and not talking about it. And that leads to more self-sabotage and whatnot as well. Yeah.

So I want to know about you and that. When I think about Drew Canole, it's like you, you're really in shape. Thank you. You run a really successful business. Uh, you're popular. Uh, well, not too popular. You're popular. Are people mad at you? Oh yeah. People, people,popular? People, you know, I was reading this quote this morning, and it's the man in the arena. And it's the one that is always ridiculed. Like, the bigger you get, the more people are against you, the more naysayers you have. And if you look at history, I mean, even the greatest archetypes on the planet, they've always faced adversity.

And the bigger we get as human beings the larger we grow um the harder it is you know the more people you're going to have throwing stones at you and it's okay it's a great place to be yes that sounds like okay you're you're playing a bigger game you're stepping in a bigger role so there's going to be more disagreement or you're going to some people going to be upset with you or they they're going to project something onto you and then create some type of story. And I think a step beyond that is going, have you had moments where you go,

okay, I am now going to follow what my heart is telling me what to do, which means I'm going to make this really big pivot in my life, and I know it's not going to be popular. I know that it's going to upset some people. Have you had that? Where you consciously go, okay, I'm going to choose this path. I know that it's... Yeah. Where it would be a lot easier choosing the path of least resistance. Yeah. But it's like, this is going to be a lot harder. It's going to require an arduous amount of work, no matter what it is. And then you go down that path because that's the one that liberates your soul. That's

the one that sets you on fire, where you feel like you come to life, springboard it out of bed. And luckily I've made a lot of those decisions in my life at an early, early age to where it's set me up to where I am today. It's like you're used to it too. Yeah, you get used to it. Yeah. You get used to aligning versus hustling and grinding. Yeah. And always checking in with yourself, your inner self, not the self that the external world gives the validation to. What's your way of coping with other people's judgment? So one thing that I practice always is this universal law of oneness.

And you can trace it back to the Kybalion, the Emerald Tablets, you know, if we can go down the mystery, you know, wagon. But I believe we're all one. And if somebody's judging me, it's just that they're judging an element or an aspect of who they are. And they've forgotten who they are. So now they're judging me because I'm showing them a fractal of who they really are in this consciousness. And it's painful to them because they haven't realized it or awakened to the fact that it's already with inside of them. So it's never about me. It's always about...

I mean, that's an easy way to intellectualize it. Yeah, it is. I hold a similar frame. frame oh someone's mad at me but then there's the reality of oh that hurts yeah it hurts, humanly it hurts it definitely hurts and I would be lying

if I said that it doesn't trigger me sometimes you know there's things like especially betrayal. For me, being tortured as a child and neglected and abandoned and betrayed by my own parents, I got this four-year-old little boy that just wants to be loved by everybody. And if I love you for three years, four years, 10 years, and then all of a sudden you change who you are in the context of my relationship to you. And now you're betraying me because you see me differently.

Maybe I have more money than the last time I saw you, which is a good motivator for a lot of people. And you want some of that. And then you become this different person that's out to get part of whatever I'm creating. That's hurtful because I've invested in you. Yeah. I've really helped you grow. I've had many deep conversations with you, you know, and then all of a sudden it's like, now you're this different person because you see and it hurts.

Yeah. So that hurts. Is that betrayal? Like you think that other people are doing it unintentionally or is that your own internal dialogue? Is that what you're talking about? I think it's more about them in? Is that what you're talking about? I think it's, um,

it's more about them in the, like what we were talking about. It's about, um, them holding on to an expectation of what they think their world should look like and then not getting that result. So now all of a sudden there's discord. Yeah.

And it's projected into our, I see what you're saying now. Yeah. I've had that happen recently where I'm, I've done it both ways both ways yeah i've been on both sides of it last week where i go i i'm on the phone with a family member and i'm not i'm not doing or saying the things they want to hear yeah and they're getting really upset with me and hang up on me yeah it's like it's like oh okay yeah but then on the other side is I find myself being in a relationship

and going, I wish this person was being different. And realizing that's so silly. That's not love. Love would be accepting them exactly the way they are and what's happening and not wishing that they were being different with me or

with anything going on. Well, I'm glad you and I still have our shoes and socks on, and we haven't ascended yet. Because if we could see everybody like that in our lives, we wouldn't even be in this meat suit. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

I'm working on it. I had this moment back in February. I was going in a – every winter, I get into this really deep internal state. And then – Which is great. Break out in the spring. I don't know if you're like following this whole calendar thing. The seasons, yeah.

All about it. I think people are falling into it. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, whether they're conscious of it or they go deep with it or not. That ancestral. Yeah, Sometimes, you know, whether they're conscious of it or they go deep with it or not. That ancestral. Yeah, that's a thing. But I went to sleep one night and I had this dream

that I died and I woke up. Or I died and came back several times over. And every time I came back in my dream, I was more aware that I was in a dream. Ooh. Yeah. Okay, okay. I was in a dream. Ooh.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now we're getting somewhere. Yeah. So I go, I die. I come back. And then all of a sudden I was like, well, this is actually,

all these things I thought were important really aren't important. And so I would say 30 deaths. Wow. 30 deaths in a single dream. And each time I came back, it just got weirder and weirder and weirder. I had something so similar to that. So it got weirder and weirder and weirder. I had something so similar to that. So it got weirder and weirder. I wake up.

Yeah. And in the middle of the night, this is the middle of one of the retreats I'm hosting. So I'm helping people work through a lot of their emotional trauma. And then I'm going through my own process. Yeah. While this is all going on. This was actually one of the first nights. And I wake up sweating.

My whole body's drenched in sweat. Shamanic death. Yeah. And I freak out for a minute, and I go, oh shit, am I going to become enlightened? Oh my God. I go, I don't know if I want that. I don't know if I want that.

I don't know if I want that. I'm really enjoying this. Yeah. The illusion is fun. Yeah. The game is fun because I had been reading this guy who will remain nameless, and he was talking about, you know, it's like neither here nor there to be enlightened, but you may not want it type of thing.

Because then all stories, you see the illusion, so it's kind of like not as exciting anymore. Yeah. And then the question is, is what if I've already had that? Yeah. And now I've just shown the vacation vibration of living in this 3D reality without all the responsibility of what enlightenment looks like. I had a summer dream, though. I was a light being. I was in my light body.

And I was traveling. And I was tracking my HRV, which is exciting. I love this stuff. In your dream? No, no, no. In real life, right? Two parts to this story. I was tracking in my dream.

They're really intense. I was tracking my HRV. I was sweating. No. Yeah, so for about a month at 5 a.m., right, just before waking up, my HRV would skyrocket. I'm talking 100 points. And I'm like subconscious, show me what's going on here.

I feel like my beard's getting in the way. Is my audio still good? You're great. Cool. I don't think your beard is blocking the audio. All right, all right, all right. Look, beard problems are real. I know.

Dude, you inspire me with your beard every time I see you. Oh, thank you. So here we are. I'm telling my subconscious before I go to bed, wake me up or show me why my HRV is skyrocketing. So 4.59, like 52 seconds, I wake up. And I see this bright light in the room, in the bedroom. Right?

You're awake or in a dream? I'm awake. Okay. Good question. Am I awake right now? I don't know. Fuck. So I see this white light and then I'm like, that's interesting.

Like I thought maybe a being was in the room healing my body. But I talked to a Toltec master that I've been working with for like 10 years. And he said, once you understand that your body's ability to navigate in a lucid realm, which I'm a lucid dreamer, I dream lucid all the time, your fourth gate opens up, which Carlos Consonato talks about your fourth gate as well in many of his teachings. And your fourth gate is heart access, which is where now you have the ability to go out and heal other people in dream space, right? Now you're a floating light being helping other people. Um, you know,

and I've had many dreams where I'm projecting prana life energy chi through my hands and my heart at other people. And they're like, yeah, I live on planet earth and fricking different planets. Like this is all in dream time. Right. And I'm like, all right, like let's heal you. I'm in this dream. I'm sending all this energy at you and going around like for days and days and years and years and years. And the wizard that I work with says that one night is equivalent to a month here on the earth in the time, like dream sequence. So you can learn. I do some lucid dreaming as well, but I don't have anyone coaching me on this. Yeah. So this is all news to me. Yeah. And I don't have anyone coaching me on this. Yeah.

So this is all news to me. Yeah. And he doesn't really coach me in the physical. It's all showing me stuff in dream time. All right. So it's crazy, dude. We need to have more talks about the dreams. Yeah.

We'll do it here. So it's insane. So I'm learning all this stuff in dream time. And my fourth gate, I'm returning to my body because it's your double. That white light is actually my light body returning. And it's the brightest light I've ever seen in my life. It's the energetic aspect of this biology that you see in front of you right now. Yeah. And we all have it. And when we lose our five senses, the more and more

we tap into that light body, which has an unlimited amount of skills, access, anything that you could think up. It's beyond your most wild imagination. And I think people that are really tapped in being artists, you know, movie makers, producers, like you're seeing the work that they're able to do because they're accessing something that's greater than what is that you see with your five senses. What do you tell somebody who goes, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about? I mean, I'm in the conversation. I know you know.

Yeah, I'm in the conversation of, you know, the energetic body. Yeah. You have the emotional body and the mental body. And there's all these things. And there's things we can't see, touch, and feel. Yeah. That are not, you know, not commonly accepted. But then when you start, these are things that I find for me

can only be validated through my own experience. And then compared to other people's experience, you go, oh, wow, that was something similar. But as far as scientific stuff, a lot of people, they hear that and they go, I don't know what he's talking about. What do you say to people like that? I try not to convince them. Yeah.

You know, don't throw pearls at swine, like that kind of thing. And it doesn't have to be that harsh. But the people that need to hear it, the people that are really listening will hear it. That's all I'm concerned about. Got it. I may be the craziest person they've ever heard. They may be the craziest person they've ever heard. They may be completely turned off. And I try not to force anything on anybody. It may not work for 99% of

the population, but maybe there's one person that's listening to this and they're like, whoa, this is an interesting thing I've never heard before. Or it opens up Pandora's box and a whole world that they wouldn't have had access to. And that's the person that I'm talking to. So you're a hockey player from Michigan. Basically, yeah. I didn't play much hockey, but definitely from Michigan. And I watched a lot of Red Wings. Okay, okay.

But you're like that guy, right? Yeah. You didn't play hockey at one point? I dabbled with it a little bit. I went to a really small – I could have sworn that you said you played hockey at some point. No. There was less than 1,000 kids – or 1,000 people in my hometown. We had one stoplight growing up.

And when I left and went to college and came back, there was one McDonald's. It was like our only restaurant. Yeah. I like to point this out because I get the feedback sometimes. It's like like must be nice living out on the west coast and and people assume like oh you grew up here and everything's been really easy for you and now you now life is like this i mean you you transformed your life in a really major way had to and so what's what would you say and we talked a bit about that

transformation previous shows. But I'm wondering, what was your first step? And I know before we talked about some of your first steps in personal development was through business and sales. Yeah. But the average person listening, they go, okay, I'm hearing Drew talk about light body and dreaming. And what's the first step in that direction? If yeah if someone goes i want to know what that's like yeah and they're doing it so the person that's listening to this the first step for me was getting my body uh honed in like losing 40 pounds i was lazy i was lethargic i was very much in my ego i didn't really have a lot of purpose and

passion for my life all right so you said you said you're really in your ego. If you're in your ego, what does that mean? Thinking with my five senses, the body, right? I was very much controlled by emotional body. I wasn't in the control of the realm of thoughts. I wasn't in control with the realm of metaphysical thoughts or thinking. It was very much, I would even say my limbic brain, very fight or flight. You were an animal. Very active. I was an animal. I was a big, dumb monkey, you know, and I was- Domesticated animal.

Yeah, domesticated animal. Living in boxes. Basically, yeah. I was going out every weekend, partying, raging. I was a womanizer, right? You know, there's been a lot of things that i have been yeah how old are you now 38 38 yeah got a year on me do i got a year on you one year yeah yeah what's what's the the day uh february 8th 1981 okay double aquarius Aries moon. Any other questions? Keep going. Keep going.

By the way, guys, that's actually great questions if you're trying to pick up on it, girl. I love to talk about that. Yeah, astrology. Especially where you live. That's all everybody talks about. Yeah, that's super easy. I learned enough astrology to go on dates. Yeah, that's all you need. All right, so somebody's making it first.

They go, this is all interesting. Are there resources? Yeah, so one thing I got into heavily at a really young age was really starting to understand the science of thought. So, and most of the successful people that I know, I've asked them, you know, have you read any books like Wallace Waddle's Science of Getting Rich, Think and Grow Rich, Metaphysically, like these laws, you know, the seven laws of the universe, the emerald tablets, like looking at all that, that was actually science back then, you know, thousands of years ago that could help you create or manifest, materialize, whatever you want to call it in this realm.

So applying that to my life at a really young age. 16 when I started on that train, sitting in my Azuzu pickup truck in Cadillac, Michigan, just visualizing that I was driving this Cadillac Escalade or whatever the hot car was in Michigan, because I didn't have access to the cars that we see out here on the West Coast. And that's what I knew to be an abundant car. And I was just feeling the emotions, feeling the thoughts, visualizing it. I would, you know, invest in fancy dinners in Cadillac when I didn't have the money just to put myself in that state. So I was all about putting myself in the state of one day being that into which I've materialized, you know, farther than anything I could ever imagine. And it still continues to go.

That's counterintuitive for most people. Yeah. But that's why you're different than most people is because you're doing the thing that other people aren't doing and thinking in different ways. Uh, what, uh, the advice that I've, I've interviewed a lot of different people and, and there it's like one way or the other, there's the advice of like, take the linear path, save up money, save, save, save save and then make smart investments and this and that and and you'll be okay and then there's the other side of the coin which is what you're suggesting which is take some risks yeah or perceived risks i'll say that be courageous make big changes without

there being a lot of like people looking from the outside might go, why would you do that? That doesn't make any sense. You don't have the money for that. Why would you do that? What do you think caused you to, I mean, so you're reading these books. Yeah.

You're getting this knowledge. You go, okay, I'm going to try this out. What most people, they hear this advice and go, I can't do it. I'm so scared. I'm so scared. What do you tell someone who's terrified? I see this happen with coaches a lot. I mean, I see it as a trick down effect and the fitness industry a lot

is you have people who are afraid to hire a coach because it feels like, you know, $200, $300, $400 a month seems like a big investment. And then the fitness coach wants to spend thousands of dollars on coaching, but they're afraid to do it. And so there's this big loop of fear around taking big steps and financial investments.

What do you think about that? I think it's, you know, and I know that fear is there. And I just talked to an individual who had these questions about creating money and having success. And it's in our DNA. It's subconsciously stored in our body. I had grandparents that went through the Great Depression. I had parents. my dad's a truck driver and my mom's a janitor growing up as a kid. So it's in my DNA to really much look at

life through fight or flight. There's not enough scarcity. Money doesn't grow on trees. I got to save, save, save, save, save spending too much. So I get where they're coming from in that. But you have to change your subconscious mind, which is your body. So I get where they're coming from in that. But you have to change your subconscious mind, which is your body. So the first step is reprogramming through what works for me is using the visual cortex, right? My eyes. So in the very beginning, I laid money all over my house and everywhere I would walk, there was money, you know, $10 bills, $20 bills. I would light a green candle at night and I would look at the screen, which is abundance, right? And I would just visualize for 20, 30 minutes before

I'd go to bed and I'd repeat affirmations. Money's coming in easily and frequently like a tidal wave. It's everywhere. It's just so easy to have effortless abundance. Everybody wants to give me money. It's crazy. And I just convinced myself before it even happened that it was coming, that it was easy. I would write checks to myself in the future that seemed maybe impossible that I could ever cash, you know? And, uh, did you cash those checks? Did you write it like six months in the future and go, all right, now I get to cash this. What's crazy is I did it every day. So I really started working with the law and I would write a check, you know, four grand today. I don't know what's going to happen, but somebody is going to reach out. And I was running the

credit and debt settlement company. I'm like, I want to make $4,000 today. And the next day, 4,500, then 5,000 and 10,000. And I was like stretching myself. I was using the laws that I was learning. And I was just saying, staying so committed. And I was so hell bent on helping people and like changing their lives even back, that I was really chasing them to benefit their life. It wasn't about chasing money. It was about chasing change of the individual, helping them in their condition. And I was just doing as much as I could. This money conversation is really interesting.

It's triggering for a lot of people. Yeah. interesting it's triggering for a lot of people yeah I know for I had to do a lot of work around my relationship to money yeah and real then realize that it's tied to every aspect of my life there's the consideration of money comes up constantly as we as we move through life maybe not for you there's I actually get breaks from it now yeah but I used to feel completely limited by it at all times. And I think that my experience and working with people and then when the money conversation comes up, there's this ethical and moral thing that rears its head. And they go, well, I was having a conversation with a friend last night and i was making a suggestion about how to budget and do finance for his business and he goes well well

is this like a ethical way of doing it and i go we're just talking about numbers it's like i'm not i i didn't talk about any agencies or any the government or I wasn't and I wasn't talking about people I wasn't talking about anything other than how money should flow in your business yeah and then there was this oh is that ethical or I go it's just it's it's how things are flowing what do you mean it's like asking if like yeah like how you breathe how you're breathing right now is ethical yeah okay so people get they've got this moral, ethical attachment to money, and then a lot of times when they hear someone talk about it as freely as you do or as I do, they may get triggered by it and go,

oh, that's selfish to put money all over your house, or are you worshiping money, or, you know. There's people like that for sure. Yeah, I think it's the majority. You think they are? selfish to put money all over your house or are you worshiping money or, you know? Yeah. There's people like that for sure. Yeah. I think it's the majority. You think they are? I think so.

Yeah. So you're, you're, you're probably like, you've, you've likely surrounded yourself with people. Yeah. That I'm in a fishbowl.

Yeah. I mean, where I live, that's the case. But then I also work with a lot of it. So it's not like the cartoon DuckTales with the rich duck I am not

sliding down a slide we're going swimming in your money pool it does not look like that I'm talking it is not like that I was talking like back of the day eight and a half years ago a dollar here, twenty dollars here. I was talking like back of the day, eight and a half years ago, a dollar here, $20 here. If I was really balling, you know, and just, just impressing it upon my mind because I was resistant just like that person. I was very much, um, you know, the, and I was taught that rich people are assholes. Okay. assholes. There was one attorney that lived in Lake City, Michigan when I was growing up. He was an asshole.

And he was an asshole automatically because his house was $250,000, which was a mansion in Lake City, which is massive, right? So I'm like- Good luck in San Diego. So rich people are assholes. And that was the neural association that I had. So now my association is- So what made you want to be wealthy? Because I had a mentor tell me, he said, and maybe it was Ronald Reagan of the past or something, but it was, you can only help as many people as you can afford to help. And one of the resources

to do that in this physical realm is through the use of currency, through the use of money. And what is money? Money broken down as an acronym is my own natural energy yield, right? And what is our natural energy? Our natural energy is love. So if I am embodying love as the divine feminine and masculine man that I am, and I'm just blessing and helping as many people as I can, then it would be only natural for God

to supply me with as much energy or as much money as possible to do my mission and my purpose on this planet at this time. Right? Love it. Yeah. That's it. If you're not convinced. Yeah. I mean, what do you, if someone wanted to work on, if they go, oh, I have money shit. Yeah. Where would you, where would you point? Subconscious right away. Where's it coming from? Let's, let's explore that. Let's look at it. Where would you point it? Subconscious, right away. Where's it coming from? Let's explore that. Let's look at it. Where was it coming up? Journal about it, write about it,

get it out of here. What you resist persists. So if you're afraid of it, it's just going to keep hitting you over and over. I used to be so deathly afraid of just swiping my debit card at the grocery store when I was paying for groceries, like 50 bucks. I'm going to see the decline. I'm going to see the decline. And this was the program that I was on. And I had to deal with that. I used to write myself checks and cash them. Like this was probably fraudulent when I was like 17, 18. So don't do this now. I would cash the check at a grocery store for a hundred or $200 to get the cash. And then hoping that I had enough money in the bank so that it could, you know, pay for the check that I just wrote. Oh, that's funny. So I'm coming from nothing when it comes from this. And am I saying that I've demonstrated

fully? No, I still have issues, dude. Yeah. I'm still working on things every once in a while, you know, payroll's coming. We got a got 100 employees i'm losing my shit for a couple days like how are we going to do this like it's the real deal yeah it's it's a lot of responsibility how many employees are with organifi now almost 100 almost 100 yeah wow so i i had up uh i had over 20 at one point and that that was a lot yeah that was a lot i don't i got lean yeah it's good to lean up but it's i can only imagine that that's a lot it is a lot to think about i don't think people really consider that when they think about people who are running the business yeah a lot of times they're like oh it looks so great and so much fun and it is. They only see the good stuff.

Yeah. Yeah, the stuff that's behind the scenes, oftentimes it's like even the family members that are a part of the company, they don't see that. Yeah. So it's the inner workings. I was here, I think it was January, February, traffic and conversion was going on. Yeah. And I was personally in the process of leaving a business

and then starting a new one and all this stuff. And then I walk in and you guys are crushing it. And I'm sitting with a bunch of basically roomful of entrepreneurs. We're all in there. And I'm feeling like like not good i was like these guys are crushing it and like i don't even know what i'm gonna be like i'm like changing all these gears in my own business and all this stuff and uh i was having a tumultuous experience myself and then um but i i paid attention and i was like okay

what are they what are they doing really well and uh it was i learned a lot just by being in the room hearing you speak um hearing your business partner speak and one of the things that, the number one thing that stuck out to me, which I loved, is that y'all are not afraid to say what's really going on. You're sharing what's really on your heart. And I know in business for a long time, there's always been, I've always had conversations with other entrepreneurs and other business owners. They're like, oh, you don't want to share that with these people or those people. And there's definitely time for discernment. Entrepreneurs and other business owners are like, oh, you don't want to share that with these people or those people. And there's definitely time for discernment. But I love how openly you guys share.

And the thing that stuck out was we're a personal development company that happens to sell great product. And, yeah, I go, oh, that's why I love Organifi. I love Organifi, but I'm like, don't know exactly why. And I go, oh, that's why I love Organifi. I love Organifi, but I don't know exactly why. And I go, oh, this makes perfect sense. They just came out and said the thing and put the name on the thing that I had already been experiencing up until this point. That was really cool. And you're a walking billboard for that. Yeah.

Because everybody you meet, everybody you talk to, everybody listening to this is always uplifted by you. And you're developing, so it's very natural for them to develop, everybody listening to this is always uplifted by you and you're developing. So it's very natural for them to develop just by listening to you. I mean, you and I could literally have a conversation like we're doing right now, which is absolutely remarkable. Talk about a few things here and there that are like educational, but just talk about our lives and have a great conversation. And people benefiting from that absolutely from you and what you're creating yeah and yeah we love having you part of the family thanks this is awesome loving it um i that's one of the things i look at when i look at fitness and i look at uh coming

from owning a gym myself and being way into the fitness world. And I, it's all, it's always gonna be a part of me and realizing that it was the first step of my personal development. It was like, Oh, I want to change my body.

Yeah. This physical thing is, you know, I was coming from a place of it's not good enough. And over time got to a place where I love it exactly the way it is. And I get to treat it really well. So my relationship with my body has shifted over the years. But it was putting in the work to change something physically.

So I look at the fitness industry. I really like that your company is approaching it that way, the personal development piece. But what I'm seeing with gyms now, I'm seeing this with gyms and trainers, is my head coach for my coaching program, he has a gym down in Imperial Beach. Yeah.

And what he says is, we're a personal development facility that happens to do fitness. I love it. That is what ended up, he's been running his gym for years. And then the last year that he transformed it into, they shifted the entire culture in about a year to be that. Like, oh, when you come in, we talk about the vision for your life. We, you know, you don't just come in and like learn how to work out and sweat. Yeah. There's

something bigger going on here. Yeah, because the reasons are bigger than your goals. And you've got to have that deep underlying reason, or we call it the why-dentity. So a why that makes you cry. And when you can live from that place, the body will naturally take care of itself. But for me, it was eight and a half years ago, I got a blood test back. I had high cholesterol. Thyroid was all jacked up. And I'm like, you know what? I'm probably not going to live to meet my grandson one day if I keep doing what I'm doing. Yeah. And that reason has pulled me to maintaining,

I would say close to, you know, 10%, 8% to 10% within two weeks throughout my life. Like, that's the average. Yeah. Body fat with the ability to run a great mile and express myself in the gym however I want to, whether that's lifting heavy-ass weight or anything that I want to do, just having dominion. It becomes easy. Yeah, it's just easy, and you love it.

It's part of your ritual. Um, and then you're hooked. Neurochemicals associated with that. Like I'm, I'm addicted to a bunch of positive shit. Right. Uh, so the last time we talked you, the book hadn't come out yet. Yeah. But it's out. Yeah. So you be you. You be you. You know, I was debating between that name and I've never told anybody else this, but the other name that I was going to put on this book was permission granted. So it's, it's more of like your permission slip to be who you really are. Yeah. And giving them the tools, elements of removing the limitations of the mind, getting rid of those, detoxing your life,

and then owning who you really are, owning your awesome, as we say in the book. And it's a roadmap. It's a transformational guide using mindset exercises and the different principles that I've used to transform thousands of people throughout my career at FitLife TV and Organifi.

Right. The permission granted thing is really peculiar to me. One thing I recognize when I'm coaching people is I've had moments where I'm trying to get someone to their own realization. And then sometimes I realize they just want permission. Yeah. And then I say, hey, it's okay if you want to do that. Or maybe you should give it a shot. And all of a sudden, a wave of relief comes over them. And then they go do the thing and they're the happiest. They're having these really happy moments and this and that.

And I go, wow, that's something they could have given themselves. Why do people, why are people looking for external permission? I think it's this, this illusion of hierarchy that we have in, or especially for like, I'll use the example of this business that I run. And I had a conversation with Amy Beaver, who I love dearly. She's like one of my favorite people. She's our CMO. And we had a meeting and she just wanted to hear that she has permission to mess up, to do marketing campaigns that maybe they don't work right away, or it doesn't back out on the KPIs or whatever we're looking for. She just wanted that internal permission. And of course,

we gave it to her because she's brilliant. She's a visionary and she sees things that not everybody's looking at. And we gave her the permission. And it was like this aha moment, this realization that, you know, maybe, and this wasn't the exact case, but maybe there was a point in her life or the person that's listening to this where somebody said, no, you can't mess up. Like it's, it'll cost us way too much if you mess up once. So then the person ends up walking around eggshells. They end up not living their life purpose. They end up conforming. Uh, that's really common behavior is I don't want to mess up because I mean, 12 years of school and then four to eight years of college is all about getting it right or you're being

you're brainwashed yeah so brain you're brainwashed into thinking that you can't so how do you how do you how do you unbrainwash that so one of the things we've done at Organifi and Lisa Shields our HR chief heart officer we just won the fourth best place to work for in the country damn congratulations That's so rad. Yeah, thank you. And one of the things that we really focus on is, you know, failing forward. This thing of failure, it's such an illusion. It's such a lie.

There's so much information from getting kicked in the nuts and failing. Like there's so much you can take out of that. And we've created an environment of that. So we encourage people to step out to really challenge themselves, to live in that edge. You know, you're always pushing your edge. You're always living outside your comfort zone. And it's remarkable to see the individuals in here that are having, we do a hundred day challenge right now.

Yeah. So it's cool to see the different things people are challenging themselves to do that they've never done in their lives. I mean, we have people doing backflips all over the place, like doing acrobatics in here, like things that seem risky and you could fail. You could break your neck if you do a backflip. Yeah, it's awesome. So that environment's everything. And the environment of the office and the business that we're running, but the environment of the individual collective mind as well. Yeah. So you talked about, I'm thinking about environment now and the, I've studied habit

change for a long time. Yeah. Likewise. And there's, I I'm realizing that a lot of my early study of habit change was really surface level. And, and, uh, you know, I was like change one habit at a time, try to replace these habits instead of, instead of start a new one or whatever. And then, uh, what's hit me more recently is environment. So if you just create a new environment for yourself, the habit, the habit is being formed by environment, not a lot of the behaviors coming from that, not because you're in a routine. Yeah. And unfortunately, you know, when, by the time you're 35 years old, 98% of what you do every day is just a

subconscious program. You're walking around like a robot and you're just doing what the subconscious has learned how to do, which is why time collapses on itself. And time speeds up is because you're not getting as much dopamine release. You know, there's no threats. There's nothing to protect yourself against, which is why if you go on a vacation, the first day is always the longest. It's because you're getting those neurochemicals from the threat level. You're protecting yourself. The brain's remembering everything. There's all that novelty. Yeah. Which is the novelty and environment's huge. And that was one of the first things in my transformation as well. I was living in Tampa, Florida eight and a half years ago. I was 40

pounds overweight, like I said, and I chose to move to San Diego. And I wanted to move to San Diego because the people here likened to Mr. Mike Bledsoe were open. They were aware. They were conscious. And every time I had visited here, I'm like, there's a certain kind of energy here that I want to be a part of. So I to move and once we move through environment then we can start to change our beliefs which if you look at logical levels you probably studied it with habit change the top one's identity yeah and but you have to change your beliefs about who you are and who your being has to shift before what you're receiving back, a lot of people are trying to do the doing part. They go, oh, if I do these things, I'll become this person. But that's the hard way.

Or you could just become the person that does the thing. Yeah, and model the person that's already doing it. Become friends with them. Shadow them. I was having a thought. I had a question I was wanting to ask, and I was like, I. I was trying to, I was trying to, I had, I had a question I was wanting to ask.

I was like, I'm going to pin it there and I'm going to come back. It'll come back. We'll see. Maybe we'll see. We could just freak them out and just sit in awkward silence. Eye gaze again. Let's do it.

Um, Oh, the, the failing forward got me thinking about, uh, a lot of people are there's a common phrase that i see with people who are uh this happens a lot with well men and women as they age as we age a lot of times like i just want to get back to the way it was and the whole idea of like failing forward is, is it,

it's the same principle is cause you can't, you're never going back. There is no going back. There's no such thing as going back. You're always going forward. And it's like, I want to get back to the way things were. I want to get my body back to the way it was.

It's like, it's never going there. So where can you go forward from here? Yeah. I, uh, got a text from a dear friend and he's like 65 years old and he's like, Hey, I want my 20 year old body back. Help me get there. How old is he? 65. He wants to be, you know, in his twenties again. And yeah, it's just, there's a new standard. There's something new that you can create. That's even further along the lines of what you desire. just there's a new standard there's something new that you can create that's even further along the lines of what you desire but there's no going back ever once you expand

consciousness there's no what einstein said you know you can't so yeah the the idea i was listening to a song last night i was putting together a mix and it was nice it was the the messaging and it was like you know i'm gonna push what i what i know all the way to the edge and you know can i go back and it's no it's like you can't unknow once you have the knowing yeah so You're locked in. Tree of life. Locked in once you get there. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah.

Well, we love having you in here, Mike. Yeah. Thanks for having me. This has been great. What's most exciting for you next? I think what's really exciting for us is at Organifi, our future products that we have, that we're in creation of now. Yeah. at Organifi are future products that we have that we're in creation of now. We're discovering a lot of superfoods that have not been put into elixirs and the different things that we're coming up with yet.

Lichen to glow. Glow is a skin internal hydration thing. We're using a tremella, which is a mushroom that has five times the amount of hyaluronic acid in it. So internally, it's helping you age more gracefully, right? In a positive way. So there's different superfoods that mother nature has created that benefit us that, um, we're now using and the potential of that, you know, cause when you look good, when you feel good on the outside, you're putting that frequency out into the universe too and attracting whatever it is that you want, you know, back to you.

Yeah, I know that I hang out with some of the fringe and people that are maybe traipsing around the forest themselves looking for these mushrooms and all these special elixirs. And I find myself in these weird little spots where there's a bar and they're serving all these things that most people never heard of. And I forget sometimes. I forget that people don't know that, I mean, five years ago, no one was using reishi mushrooms. They had no idea. Now it's commonplace yeah but are they extracted using ultrasound what yeah like our uh our new immunity product we're using the ultrasound technology first time it's ever been done to extract beta glucans from reishi okay and the

beta glucans now have research that shows that it's great at boosting up your immune system like there's i mean there's very little things that are that powerful the reishi mushroom is i mean it's a it's a magic thing yeah so you guys are bringing these products to people who would never this is what i like about it is you're bringing a lot of products that usually only like the crazy fringe people are playing with and you're you're tapping like about it is you're bringing a lot of products that usually only like the crazy fringe people are playing with and you're you're tapping into that and then you're integrating it in with with things that make sense to the average person yeah you know it's like oh glow i want to glow yeah all right we're gonna put shit in there that's gonna like help you make

you glow yeah and it's gonna be good for you yeah and at the same time we're teaching them because the personal development piece yeah you know if Yeah. And it's going to be good for you. Yeah. And at the same time, we're teaching them because the personal development piece. Yeah. You know, if you're going to glow, you got to remove sugar, dairy, wheat, these things that. How do you guys, I mean, we're doing some of it now, but do you guys have a systematic way for distributing that education? It's.

What does that look like? Usually via email. Yeah. I would say, you know, and it's, it's optional. You don't have to, to be educated. You could just buy the product, but, uh, yeah, we send out emails. We make a lot of videos. We do a lot of free content and it's just specifically to benefit them. And I film it as if it's a close family member that needs to see it. Yeah. Cause that's really how it started. You know, my mom was dealing with arthritis as a janitor. She could barely grip a broom anymore and pick

up objects cause her back and her sciatic nerve and all these things that she was dealing with. So I started studying superfoods and I found that turmeric, you know, this was like eight years ago. Yeah. I'm like, mom, we got to get you juice and turmeric. So I sent her a juicer and researched the best turmeric online. And I was sending it to my mom. And within three weeks she got full functionality back in her hands. And, um, yeah, so it started with my family and then it rippled out into the bigger, broader family and the collective. It's crazy because I, I've run into so many people who are having some type of health issue and it seems like they go to a doctor and a doctor prescribes them some type of medication that causes more problems

yeah it doesn't really solve the problem and it's not a long-term solution and all this stuff and then they they battle it for five ten years or however long it is they're like battling this thing and then they finally give into the alternative thing, which is, you know, healthy eating practices and, you know, trying, you know, natural food sources and turmeric and mushrooms and stuff like that. Yeah. It's how do you, how do you get people to switch over? Do you think we, we have that possibility and with, uh possibility with our culture, with our society right now? Because everybody is basically outsourcing the responsibility of their health to doctors. And one of the things you're advocating is to take our own responsibility

and start putting good stuff in our body. Yeah. You have to eventually become a big enough skeptic to be like, all right, I am not aging in the best way that I want. I'm getting more pain. I'm on all these pain meds, whatever your scenario is. And then you got to wake up. Like if this current method of working on my body is no longer serving me, maybe there's a different road.

And I think being the demonstration of what physical fitness looks like, mental fitness, health, period. Like being a healthy guy like you, you know, looking at the whites of what physical fitness looks like, mental fitness, health, period. Like being a healthy guy like you, you know, looking at the whites of your eyes and not seeing any red, knowing that your liver is pure and you're clean. Like you're the demonstration of that. So the more people that we can get on that bus, which is my life's work, the greater your frequency is as a human. Energet we're talking right like the mass consciousness of the planet i had a dream where i was looking at the earth and there was a lot of red red is very primal it's very root chakra it's very angry it's very depressive it's very sad there's war right there's women in dubai just got uh the ability to drive cars just recently what so there's so much

you know that was yeah like there's so much shit that's happening on this planet where if we're going to change the collective and help humanity which i'm not saying that you and i here to save humanity right we're just a part of the so we're here to save anybody yeah we're not here to save anybody yeah we're here to change ourselves but when we change ourselves enough people will wake up and change themselves and then the whole world will be free. Yeah. I mean, that's one thing I found is there was a period of time where I want, again, going back to wanting other people to be different. Yeah. Like, oh, I can help them. Like I want to, and I go, I realized I'm like, oh, not helping them at all. I'm hurting them. But then getting to a place where like, oh, I'm. And then you take on their karma. Yeah. So you've got to be careful with that.

So then coming from a place of like, I'm going to work on me and do the best I can do. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, my experience has been that the people closest to me then start hitting their, they start climbing whatever ladder it is that they were wanting to climb. And it's like no effort from on my part. And I was like, oh, I can see your potential. I'm trying to get you to go this way. I'm pushing, pushing, pushing. Resistance, resistance, resistance.

I'm going to completely let go. I'm just going to do me. And all of a sudden they start, they skyrocket. Yeah, exactly. You're not here to sell anybody anything. You're not here to get them to change. You're just changing who you are. I'm just changing who I am. And by doing that and living that way for so long, more and more people get them to change. You're just changing who you are. I'm just changing who I am.

And by doing that and living that way for so long, more and more people open up to it. Yeah. My sister just started juicing vegetables. She's been seeing me do this for eight and a half years. She just started. She's lost like 20 pounds. Nice. She's still in Michigan.

You know, she's on a roll. She's walking every day now, which is crazy. Like she's really taking it on. Yeah. But it took eight and a half years. But who am I to judge and think that that's, it's just her way. You know, everybody has their own way. Yeah.

I know that I've had, I've had teachers in the past that look at me and go, oh geez. I look back at myself five years ago and I was like, wow, I must have been a pain in the ass of these mentors at one point. I doubt I was because they were of the mindset I am now, I'm sure. But I go, oh, wow, I thought I was so good at what I was doing. I look back and go, oh, I was – that's really funny. If I ever find myself judging where someone else is at, I quickly remind myself that this is why it's good to have mentors. I like having people who are much older than me as mentors because I know that I immediately just put myself in their shoes and go, they're chuckling at me for my dumb shit right now. Well, and it's like when we're really young, you know, when we're in our 20s and early 30s, we can say that now that we're elders.

We think that we're hot shit as men. Yeah. Charismatic men that are driven alpha males. We think that we are the greatest thing on the planet in our younger years. And we have no idea. I mean, the older I get, the more hysterical some of my old behavior is. And I just can't smile and have compassion for it because it's like, yeah, the more mature we become, the more we realize we didn't know anything. I don't know anything.

Right? Like, there's so much on this planet and there's so much juiciness to this life that we're living. To think that I knew something back then is to just, I mean, it blows my mind. It's hilarious. Yeah. It is hilarious. You could literally laugh at yourself all day, every day for the rest of your life. And you can't take it too serious. Yeah. I've been, I've been spending, living in the same house with one of my buddies for a little over a month now. And almost every single day he goes, what are you laughing about?

I'm like, just laughing at me. Like making some food. I'm like, this is just for me. Just for me laughing at me. One of my favorite exercises, I do this. This is just fun. And I think it's healthy too. It's a healthy thing.

It came out of doing a personal development type exercise at one point and now it's just automatically embedded as i'd love to rewind 10 years and and i go okay what does 27 year old mike if he gets to sit in the room for five minutes and be in this conversation we're having or, or whatever. What does he think? Oh my God. That's hysterical. Yeah. It's, it's one of my favorites. And so. So then you take on the mind of that 27 year old and you're like, what in the world? What the fuck? Yeah. There's, there's a, sometimes, sometimes it's, what am I doing in this place? Yeah. Get out. Yeah. What have you done?

Yeah. Sometimes it's like, holy shit, this is the, how did you manage to create this life? It's so amazing. Yeah, most of the time probably. Most of the time it's that. Well, even though like, holy shit, I should get out of here, it's just stuff I used to be afraid of that I actually like now.

Oh. I go, I've learned that we as human beings, we're a process. Yeah. And you can be more or less fluid as you choose. And the more fluid you become, there's things that if you just said, oh, you should try this thing out. Ten years ago, I would have been like been like nope not a chance never gonna do that likewise and then next i know five years later i'm like that person i respect they say it's a good idea maybe i'll give it a shot yeah and then next thing i know i'm uh i'm like everyone should

check this out yeah it's so much fun it's so much fun so like those types of things i like to do the rewind and go i have gotten into some weird shit you and me both dude yeah i'm realizing more and more like so flashback 10 years from me and what i'm doing like this week you know just this week alone yeah what was 10 years i'm at my house 10 years ago i'm like build build grind grind hustle hustle hustle working 14 16 hour days. No social life. No going out on the weekends. It was so serious. Serious.

Serious, serious. Serious, true. And serious, but I need to, I was in survival. Yeah. Complete survival. And now it's like after putting in the work, now I'm in this place of, well, now I need more yang to earn more yin to my yang. Yeah.

So this would be the opposite. When you think about survival, what do you think? What's the opposite of survival for you? Freedom. Freedom. Freedom of time, freedom of resources, just endless amounts of freedom, not being attached. So detachment, seeing total freedom would be be seeing everything that we see as an illusion. Right.

Living in nirvana, being in heaven. And I think I'm maybe 10% there out of 100. But this week I'm building, I'm working on building a chicken coop. And I'm in my rose garden every day. You know, I'm sprinkling bone meal meal and I'm growing these beautiful roses. I'm playing so many different instruments at my house. I'm doing archery and I'm doing axe throwing. I'm doing all these things daily.

I'm taking a bath. Epsom salt with rose petals on the bath. I'm like, I would have looked back at myself 10 years ago. I would have been like, who is this guy? Get me the out of here. You couldn't even enjoy it. It's hilarious. I would have been so in my head, dude, you're going to fail. You're a loser.

Get your shit together. What the hell are you taking a bath for? Get up. It's 4.30 in the morning. Wake up. It's 5.30. You're sleeping in. Get up. The voice in my head, it would have been just like drill sergeant drew no fun right go out at night maybe i did go out stayed out till two o'clock in the morning i would have been up at five running three miles and then i would have

been working for another eight ten hour day to make up for being such an asshole the night before. That's like how my mind would have worked. So, so all that behavior led to this and what, uh, what do you tell people who do you think, do you think that you could, you could get where you are now without having gone through that phase? And do you think that phase was necessary in business to get where you're at? Great question. Or do you think that someone could adopt this way of being immediately and start seeing the positive effects? Oh, I think having kindness, being laid back, working from the field, changing your mind first before taking action and having to be involved in everything will always win. So the way that I'm currently doing it is a lot

better, but it took me going through the trenches and the pain and everything else to get to where I am. So I love it. And I love what I've been through. I wouldn't change anything. Um, but I think there is a more effective way. Yeah. I probably have less gray hair. I probably would, um, you know, who knows? Like, but you know what? It was fun. It was awesome. I learned a lot and the life mission just continues. So I'll probably do the same thing 10 years from now. Yeah. And it'll just happen. We'll be laughing at ourselves again when we're on a podcast or it'll probably be virtual reality or hologram or something.

Can't even predict it. Can't even predict. We'll be floating in space or something. We'll just kind of be in zero gravity. Our consciousness is already uploaded. So now you and I are talking in person, but our doppelganger energetic perspective of a computer data system

will be communicating back and forth. We'll be like... Instantly sharing experiences. Start thinking about, all right, we got to get a float tank involved. Yes. Two float tanks, VR goggles. So do you have a float tank at your house?

No. I've been playing around with the idea. No, I've thought about it. I have just about everything else at my house. Yeah. But the float tank is one thing I don't. I want to know what's in the biohacking lab. Okay.

Yeah, because as soon as I walked in, we started talking like, what things are you taking? What things are you doing? And you guys got a sauna in here. You guys got. Yeah. At the office. Yeah, at the office. You guys do red light.

We have red light. You have red light. So Juve. Yeah. Right. You're friends with those guys. Yeah. Great company.

Rad. We want to put a cold plunge in here. Yeah. We want to put a biocharger in here. Have you heard of biochargers? Cold plunges can get expensive. Yes. It's one of the most expensive things you can do, unless you just do a freezer.

But I wouldn't do the freezer in the office because... So there's two companies, and I bought both, right? I bought one from Great Lakes Cedar Tubs, which Laird Hamilton, Greenfield recommended to me. If you want to spend four or five grand on a good cold plunge, right? Yeah. And then there's a company that I found in Michigan. Home Depot, 500 bucks. Home Depot. You can get the ice tub, freezer. You can do that. I wouldn't put that in a commercial space but yeah no or there if you really want to go all out these guys in michigan they're called furrow health f-u-r-o health and it literally looks like

a luxurious spa you could drop it into a deck and it's this is the way to do it like this i mean i sit in this thing it's to see it's two people so sometimes i convince my girlfriend i'm like hey jump in the cold plunge with me, let's sit it out. Eye gaze while freezing? That's the best. We're in the same place. We're right there with each other. That's the next show. 45 degrees. We're going to eye gaze in the ice bath. It'll be a 20 second show.

It'll be beautiful. Alright, so at the house, what do I have at the house? Sunlight and sauna. Yep. You do sauna every day? Probably half the days. Half the days.

I like to do it before bed. Interesting. Yeah, so, oh, yeah, I'll just run you through the routine. Yeah, give me the routine. And I'll use all the gadgets in the process. We'll share routines. So, and I got a new one. I got a new gadget that's really exciting.

I'm going to be shopping today. Yeah. I can tell already. You're excited about this. Let me get my affiliate code for the new thing first. All right. All right. So wake up.

I do the Juve red light. Yes. So I power that baby on, buck naked. On your balls. Yep. Okay. Got to get it on the balls. You got to get the perineum too.

I actually, yeah. Okay. So what I do is I do eight minutes per side. I do eight minutes on the front, eight minutes on the back, and I'm doing some type of movement while I'm in front of it. So I'm playing some like really chill music. I'm breathing. I'm moving really slow. I'm playing some really chill music. I'm breathing. I'm moving really slow.

I'm doing some stretches. Yes. On the backside, I do some, like put my hands on my feet and lift my butt up and down. So I definitely get the perineum in the back of the balls. Yes.

With the red light. You want to hit everything. You get the chocolate starfish in there? Absolutely, 100%. Missing out if you miss that. So I do that. Before that, obviously I'm drinking. Hydrate. I hydrate. I drink water. Tons of Organifi green juice. I drink the green juice and that's how I get started. Red light therapy, movement. And then at night I like to wind down.

So for me it's like morning and evening, and in between there's all sorts of stuff going on. But my movement session will be either right now I'm kickboxing twice a week, so my buddy is an amazing kickboxing coach. And what we're working on is moving smooth and loose. So most people get into boxing and they tense up, right? Yeah. And so everything I'm doing with my movement practice right now

is about being smooth. And if I'm not being smooth, I slow down, get slower, find where the gaps are at. You're trying to make me tired. I'm hypnotizing you. Yeah, I'm getting really stupid. So even with kickboxing, even with striking, even slowing down and getting really, really smooth and keeping the body loose. I finish kickboxing and my body doesn't – nothing's tense.

Everything feels great. So then go on about my day, eat pretty much fat and protein throughout the day, some eight carbs at night. But before bed, what I like to do to wind down is I jump in the sunlight and sauna, and there's a relaxation mode. Yeah. I didn't even know that button existed. You probably just like turn on as hot as possible.

Yeah, 160, 40 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. I do 40 minutes relaxation mode, take a cold shower after that, and then hop in my bed. And what I have, and of course I drink the gold before bed every night. You know what I do? I do the gold drink. Yeah.

The Organifi Gold with collagen in it. I do a scoop of collagen. Okay. So that makes it like a little bit creamier. Yeah. Van it. I do a scoop of collagen. That makes it a little bit creamier. Yeah, vanilla. I've done that before. No vanilla, just unflavored. Just normal collagen? Okay. Yeah. It adds a little

more oomph to it. But I got this new thing called Chili Pad. Yes, I love it. Do you have one? Yes. Fucking hell. Best thing ever, dude. What temperature do you sleep at? 55. 55?

Yeah. I've been doing it at 62 because that's what the research said, but I think I could go colder. Now I'm changing my time. Because I'm hot. Yeah, me too. I run hot. Me too.

Probably most people that are running businesses run hot. Oh, pitta all the way. Yeah, fire. So 62. I'm going to check that out. That's what the research says. I usually start with whatever the research says Yeah, fire. So 62. I'm going to check that out. That's what the research says. I usually start with whatever the research says

and start adjusting. I've only slept on it. It's been less than a week now. It's new. Oh, it changes everything. It's new for me. Yeah. You wake up and pee?

Yeah. I don't pee my bed. No, no. Yeah, you don't pee your pants. Do you wake up in pee? Yeah. In the chili pants? I thought that was normal something's frozen in my leg down here um i think though i don't know if what it is oh i know what it is but i'm curious

how often do you wake up every night i wake up when i wake up once or twice i don't to pee i don't sleep all the night I don't. You sleep all the night through? I sleep all the way through. Rarely do I get up to pee. You got a healthy prostate. Good. See, I wake up. I mean, I'm getting... Is that what it is? Yeah. Waking up and peeing? And zinc and then a little bit of sea salt. I know probably there's people listening to this. Solved it for me. So electrolytes before bed was something that I did so you don't wake up. It's important to get your deep sleep. Well, when I was in the Navy, I remember I was at Bud's. And you had to – it's like every day is the toughest fucking day of your life.

Yeah. And – Pounding water. Waking up in the morning is hard because when you wake up, you know you're about to suffer. I'm about to suffer. So getting out of bed was the hardest part of the whole BUDS experience. And so what I would do is I would drink 32 ounces of water right before I went to bed. Oh, so that helps you.

It would force me to get up. And so when I was 19, I started playing around with how much water I drank before bed. So now what I do is I hydrate heavily in the morning, and throughout the day I hydrate less, and I train in the morning. So I hydrate less and less and less. Even with the sauna, I don't overhydrate. So I'm always playing with, I use a lot of salt. I use a lot of electrolytes.

And I'm always – and I cut down the water before bed so that I don't get up and pee. So I can sleep longer. See, I drink so much water before bed. Yeah. I don't know. I'm drinking like two gallons a day. I'm not sure it's a prostate thing. Maybe it's –

Yeah, you're just drinking water. Drinking shitloads of water. Yeah. Um, and then, I mean, as far as the health of, of that whole area, I think doing intentional breath work where you're blocking, do you do, do you do breath work? Not as much as I, I could. Yeah. I'm friends with our prime mutual friend, Sam Scully. Yeah. Huge breath work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. if you want to go on a breath journey I can take you on something that will just light your fire

30 minutes I want to know your breath program yeah I've got the first 20 minutes is a complete like body emotional release and then the last few minutes is rocket ship through crown chakra.

Oh God. Yeah. I need this. It's a, it's a double whammy. Should we take them with us? We should take them with us. Actually,

I can't, uh, I, I, I can't share. I could, but I'm not going to share the technique, the full technique because,

uh, you, I'm afraid that people would do it every day and you can't do it every day you don't want to do it every day because it's such an adrenaline dump so if you once a week if you started your day with this this particular breath work technique and this is one of those guys a lot of the wim hof guys know it yeah the top practitioners but they don't share it and uh yeah yeah, it's one of those things. If you did that, you would potentially exhaust yourself, adrenal fatigue.

Wow. But once a week, you can do this, and it just, it's amazing. Send you to the moon. Send you to the moon. You'll get, some people report sacred geometry visuals and all sorts of really fun stuff. I'm going to add that in. All right. sacred geometry visuals and all sorts of really fun stuff. Yeah. I'm going to add that in.

All right. So what's, is there any, uh, anything that I do? Yeah. Any hacks that like you're doing that I'm, that you didn't hear me say,

or so what do you got? Lately? I've been waking up at three and I jump in the hyperbaric chamber. Ooh. So you go back to sleep in there. So Sarah, um, wakes us up in the morning,

serotonin and Mel puts us to bed at night, right? Melatonin. So I find that if I can adjust my melatonin precursor with cortisol first thing in the morning by doing a little light, I can get a lucid induction while I'm letting the chamber fill up with oxygen. So now I'm in this solid hyperventilating chamber. When you say light, what do you mean? So light increases cortisol. Blue light. Oh, okay. So you're just turning on light. Just you say light, what do you mean? So light increases cortisol. Blue light.

Okay, so you're just turning on light. Just turning on light. I was wondering if you had something about light. At 3 in the morning, right? Yeah. Okay. You were wondering if it's pink or magenta. I was wondering if you had some glasses.

It's got to be a toy, right? It's got to be a toy. You could do any light. Any light works. So simple. Yeah, jump in. I'm old school, right? He's just hitting switches on the wall. Any light works. So simple. Yeah. Jump in. I'm old school, right? He's just hitting switches on the wall.

Yeah, exactly. How boring. And then I do lighting up my energy center. So I went to a Joe Dispenza workshop. This guy's a freak of nature, right? I studied his stuff deeply two years ago, and it was great. It was one of the best things I ever did. So his energy center where you're pushing up the cerebral spinal fluid up to your pineal believe two years ago and he's great it was great yeah it's one of the best things i ever did so his

energy center where you're pushing up the cerebral spinal fluid yeah up to your pineal gland at like three in the morning while in a hyper you know hyperbaric chamber i've had crazy lucid dreams in doing this it's been absolutely wild so i'll get in there hyperbaric chamber now yeah and then for an hour and a half i got a good supplier to it's really perfect yeah i'll get in there hyperbaric chamber now yeah and then for an hour and a half i got a good supplier too it's really perfect yeah i'll hook you up and uh no affiliate code i'm just gonna give it to you and uh so i'm in this thing and i'm blasting off for an hour and a half and i've tracked my um my REM cycle too so i'm dropping into deep deep deep sleep and i got an air conditioner in the chamber so it's really cold like it's like a freezer do they come with one or did you install that is that

after market it's an aftermarket thing you can order with it oh gosh but it's just cranking it up getting it really cold in there so you just you hit it and it's got the white noise that it automatically makes because of the compressor how cold is it i mean it's probably i'd say 60 degrees okay 65 not too bad not like 37 you know i'm not freezing but like icicles coming off the beard i come out i look like uh tom hanks and cast away with all the shit in my beard um no so i do that and then i wake up and then i try to remember and go through the dream sequences and what I'm taking away. Because you can open up eight or nine different dream circles and then start to piece it together with what's going on in your day. What are you looking for? So spending just a few moments like

sharpening the ax, as Abraham Lincoln would say. Yeah, that's going, I'm going to adopt that. Because what I do in the morning is I wake up and then I intentionally draw back into that, that middle space to, to access that dream state. But I've just, I mean, 20 minutes in the morning, you're doing it. You've got a whole protocol happening that is another level. That's crazy. And it's like some of the best messages I get in the morning from that. Then I go out to the garden. Like I said, I'm becoming a voracious gardener. We're building a beehive, chicken coop.

I go out here and I just commune with Mother Nature. I mean, I put my feet in the dirt. I'm just taking it all in, breathing the oxygen. I got a mini golden doodle who's out there with me and another little pup mix. And we're just chilling. We're watching the sunrise. We're letting all those delicious vitamin B rays come into our bodies. And it's setting us up for success at night too, so we can sleep better. So getting that and then just getting grateful out there. I go to the gym. Obviously I'm hydrating the whole time. I've been drinking

a half a teaspoon of really good salt. I've been using the Colima salt, which you probably have at your house too, the sea salt. A lot of people's thyroid is off because of the bromide or whatever. The salt helps flush it out. I do apple cider vinegar. I mix our Organifi Immunity product with it. It has large vitamin C, which vitamin C has been shown to help with adrenals and whatnot, as you know. And a little apple cider vinegar. And I have this water thing at the house now. I just moved. You got to come over and see this.

Yeah. It's sparkling tap water. But it's obviously not tap water. It's purified water. But it's sparkling from the faucet. So I put everything in here and it's the greatest elixir you could have in the morning. I mean, it's like- I like that. Yeah. And I mix it up with my little Organifi

mixer thing and I slam this and just drink so much water in the morning. Then I go to the gym and I usually do the sauna and the cold plunge at night as well. Not right before bed though. I'm going to have to try that. And I've done the research on cold before bed. I know Tim Ferris talks a lot about it. Yeah. In the day. Yeah. Yeah. I like to do the, yeah, I left that out. The cold plunge in the freezer. Yeah. Then hop in the sauna. It's never fun though. Are you at the point where like you look forward to jumping in this 50 degree? You put yourself in the future? Not right now.

Yeah. Not right now. I've gone through phases. Back in the fall, I spent a couple weeks in Virginia. And my business partner, Mark, he, every single morning, we had a horse trough at the house we were renting. Every single morning, he would go and buy bags of ice and I would wake up and he had already got the ice in it

and maybe he had already gotten it or not but whenever I woke up it was my turn. I'd literally crawl out of bed and crawl right into the tank. So we were we spent a couple weeks filming till midnight, one o'clock inside this gym and so this was our way of staying sane We spent a couple weeks filming until midnight, 1 o'clock, inside this gym.

And so this was our way of staying sane. But I was doing it every single day. I would say it took me about five or six days to where I started enjoying it and looking forward to it. It wasn't a big deal. But if I let time go in between plunges, I'm like, all right, let's do this. Yeah. The benefits are real, though. So real. A lot of people go, well, what's the difference. You know? Yeah. The benefits are real though. So real.

People, a lot of people go, what's the difference? You know, they talk about cryo. I'm like, cold plunge is better. Cold plunge will give you all the benefits of cryo and then it's going to check a bunch of other boxes too.

Yeah. The thing is, it's uncomfortable. Yeah, it sucks. So that's it. Yeah. But I like playing in the realm of, you know,

the oxygen hyperbaric chamber going to the edge of the threshold. And there's been a lot of research in regards to heat and then cold and then oxygen. So I'm just testing everything. Why not? It sounds like you are as well. Why not? I was at a paleo effects and they had the hyperbaric chambers and I didn't, I didn't

have time to fuck with it that weekend, but I'm gonna get in there yeah I was sold the minute I read about um LeBron James he's only been injured for two weeks and he's been what in the NBA for like seven years but part of his ritual is sitting in a hyperbaric chamber every day for an hour and a half so I'm like I'm gonna do that so you do you wake up early and you basically sleep in there and you sleep in it you wake up early and then you get the benefits of that light, that lucid induction. Yeah. Because the cortisol and the melatonin work together to wake you up in dream space. Yeah.

And if you can wake up in dream space, you can literally two nights ago or two mornings, if you want to call it that, I was my autonomic nervous system and I was watching every system in my body that it normally takes care of itself and just does breath, visual, you know, sensations, heartbeat, all of that. But I was controlling it from my autonomic nervous system in this dream. And I was manipulating it in like dream space. And then I'm like, who do I need to talk to? And it's like your higher self's like talking to your body. Who do I need to talk to in this time and space? And then I'm like, who do I need to talk to? And it's like your higher self's like talking to your body. Who do I need to talk to in this time and space? And then all of a sudden, you're in the other person's dream time asking them questions. Have you ever come to me?

Probably. Yeah, probably. And not that I can. Now we're going to be on the lookout. I'm definitely sure we've traveled together. Is Drew intruding in my dream space? Well, back in the day, Toltecs used to lay – Aboriginal Indians used to lay around in tents in circles with their heads together. This set an intention to open up a portal, and they were all traveling together energetically.

So we're going to do this. Sounds like we've got something to plan. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Text me. Be like, bro, let's hit up – go somewhere. I think we could find a few other guys that are as normal as we are.

Yeah. You can make this happen. So one of the questions I get a lot from women, and you have women listening to this, is where do I find men like you? So I'm talking to you too, brother, because you and I are just, we're equally as out there. Yeah. Where do these women go that are listening to this? To find guys like. To find guys like us.

That sounds conceited. Elle's shaking her head like what an asshole. But truth be told, my girlfriend's a relationship coach, and all these girls are asking me and her always. They're like, yeah, we get it. Well, this is very, very common too. I live in a community that's – it's rare. I live in a community that's rare. I live in a rare community where it's mostly beautiful women.

Yeah. And a lot of them are single. And a lot of them are going, where are these guys at? Oh, seriously. Is what they're asking. Yeah. Where are they? I don't know.

I love the honesty. The thing is, I think most women are just looking in the wrong places. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's not many people like me. There's not many people like you.

It's pretty rare. We're rare. But they exist. Yeah. We're out here. So there's got to be more. I'm open. All right.

Now we're getting somewhere. No. Yeah. It's funny because there's all these different communities. If I go into the business community, there's like go to a mastermind. There's a lot of men that have got that part figured out, but they don't have the other stuff figured out. Or you get into fitness and they've got that dialed in but not the other. Or I know some men that are like their number one thing is relationship.

But most women, they want a man that has purpose. Yeah. And their mission is their number one thing. It has to come first. It has to come first. And I think that's a common mistake for a lot of men. And women. And women.

Because they date somebody that doesn't, and then they wonder why everything else is off. Yeah, and they're upset, and the guy gives in to the woman. Yeah. I mean, I look back on my previous behavior and go, oh, I see where I completely put my attention on the woman and sacrificed my mission. Yeah. I've been there. Yeah, it happens. But yeah, I think what you're describing is women want guys who are healthy and strong physically, who are emotionally tapped in know how to communicate uh and and i

think one of the things this is this is the this is where people get confused this is where men get confused because we have gone through a phase in our culture where men have been emasculated yes um and so now men are afraid to be men yes and so now they start acting like women or like little boys yeah yeah yeah or and then so now there's also this uh permission so not in every community but i know that in a lot of communities men have been given uh permission to express themselves emotionally which is a good thing but the trouble is is they don't have the tools to do it appropriately. Yeah. And so, or they just, it's just all over the place.

Yeah. And there's, the expression is not mature. It's like an immature, childlike expression, but they haven't learned how to love that part, and so instead it comes out as really messy. Yeah. And there's a place for that. Men need to go somewhere to get messy. Yes.

Wolfpack. I've gone through that and still go through that. But I think women want men that are tapped in emotionally but also are very emotionally strong at the same time. To weather the storm. Yeah. People who invest in language, mental, more cerebral, personal development. Yeah.

I mean, women want the whole package. They do. It can exist. Everyone has access to it. Exactly. And what screwed us is Disney movies, dude. Yeah. These girls grew up watching The Night and Sh in shining armor that had the horse and the castle and all these attributes.

So now every woman, most of them, are looking for their knight in shining armor. And because we're in such a quick fix Instagram, swipe left, swipe right, at the minute of anything that doesn't serve them, they're like, I'm out. And vice versa for men. Oh, yeah. A lot of men feel like they need to be the knight in shining armor, and they're fighting the damsel in distress. They're chasing perfectionism. I lose interest in a woman when I realize that she wants to put me

in the position of that knight in shining armor. I'm like, this is a reciprocal relationship i'm not here to like save you yeah and so uh i i for me that's a telltale sign start talking to a woman and go oh this is like this isn't gonna work yeah you're looking for you're looking for something that actually doesn't exist but uh either way, you're not going to be happy here. I think a lot of us men fall into that, though. Like, it feels good to be the savior. Oh, I used to. Me too.

I would say it was about two years ago I was able to finally give that up. Yeah. Yeah. Good. I mean, I still watch the thought populate in my mind. Like, oh, you're hanging out with this girl. Oh, she could really use your help in this way. I go, oh.

You know, it's okay for me to make suggestions, but for me to get... You're not swooping in anymore. No, not at all. Captain Save-A-Ho. Yeah, that's a hard habit to break. It really is. Yeah.

Because the ego loves it, and it feels so good to be saving someone. Yeah, there's something that comes with that. But then it just has to happen again and again and again. You just get beat down so much. It's like the movie Groundhog's Day. Well, this happens not just in relationship, but in romantic relationships, this happens with coaching.

So I work with a lot of coaches. They fall in love with you. Yeah, the coaches get so emotionally attached to the client's uh results like oh why aren't they get doing what i want them to do i'm so fucking frustrated and that's that's really common so i think it's i think that uh you know there's this triad of you know hero victim villain yeah people like to to get in that triad every story has it right and so we create these stories in our lives and people have to play the roles and and people are getting cast and sometimes the victim's the villain and you know they they can these things can move around and i noticed that in uh in in the

fitness industry a lot of people are attracted to to coaching tend to place themselves in the hero role. Uh-huh. And so like, oh, I'm it. It's a trauma cycle too. Yeah. It can be. Yeah. So they put themselves in the hero role.

And then what they do is they end up working with victims and villains. And then they complain about people being victim victims and villains and can't understand why they're not doing this or that. And that's where they casted themselves. And they casted themselves as the hero. So the one, this is a really advanced move for someone who's in any type of relationship. Yes.

But for people who are attracted to coaching, I find that they love to step into the hero role. So it's like, okay, how do we separate that? How do you step outside the triad and see it for what it is, see the story for what it is. And then if you can elevate from there, now you can really impact lives. Yeah. So what I, what I'm hearing you say, and I love this is elevating yourself outside of the hero role, which I would call the observer. Yeah. Right. So how often are you an observer

of your life? Yeah. And how do we help somebody get to that level? Yeah. What's your experience with that? I find, so there's a few different steps. I mean, there's the cerebral approach, which is a lot of language work. And so getting into the story, getting people to write down the story, look at it on paper, start changing the story, start translating it, finding out what it really means. That's one approach that I use. But there's also the emotional approach. There's the going, okay, what put you in this role in the first place?

What happened at four years old? Yeah, what was the desire at four? What didn't happen? Yeah, what didn't happen? How is it that you're trying to – what formed your personality and caused you to behave this way to get love? Yeah. And a lot of people were like, oh, I – and so doing that level of work, I do a retreat where we do that level of work. It's like, okay, we deal with that origin story, how that originated. And then all of a sudden, it's funny because for that level of work,

it can take up to 18 months to integrate that experience. Oh, yeah. And then what ends up happening is everything in life, all of a sudden, relationships completely shift. People seem different. People look different. Everything changes because they've completely broken out of the story because there's this emotional attachment to this story that's going on in the mind. And all of a sudden, the whole thing collapses.

Yeah. And then you go back out in the world and go, Oh, I'm, and sometimes people slip back into an old pattern just because out of habit, but then, and, but then go that feeling, I don't have that feeling. I feel different doing this and everything looks different. Oh, I can see it now. I've stepped out of the story because I don't have, I'm not emotionally involved in it. And it's like, Oh, cool. It's not a big deal anymore. And so I really like the emotional work. It's the most challenging work to do. Because, I mean, for us, it takes six.

We can only take six people for six days. I mean, it's so intense that not everybody can have it. And so but when people come out of that, it's like the changes are automatic. Yeah. It's, it's the most effortless change of identity you can have. But I love how you do these small workshops and clinics and getting people together. Cause that's, I think that's where real change can happen. Yeah. I'd love to do more of that here. Yeah. Well we can, yeah, we can bring something in here. Yeah. It'd be fun. Definitely'll be fun. Definitely. I think we should go now. What time?

How long have we been at this? I think we're supposed to be done. It feels like 10 minutes. It's an hour and a half. Are we already? We're an hour and a half in. So this is my longest interview ever. Longest interview ever.

So it must be the best. Thank you. Yeah, I mean. Checking that box. Yeah. For me. More is better. Yes.

Always. Yeah, more is always better. Well, thanks for joining me today. Thanks for having me over to the Organifi office. I enjoyed dancing with you this morning. Wasn't that fun? Even though you kicked my ass. Way to rub it in.

Well, I mean, dancing's not supposed to be a competition. It's supposed to be fun. You know how, because I'm building a beehive, you know how they communicate with each other? By dancing. So next time I see you, dude, let's just start busting out. Okay? All right.

And I'm going to challenge you again at DDR. All right. How good was that? How good was... The pre-podcast? Yeah. That's a pre-podcast ritual. It was insane.

Yeah. I wish I could just have that shipped wherever I go. Yeah, just travel with you. Yeah. You get done. Go out in the parking lot. DDR. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks for joining me today. Where can people find your book? They need to buy the book? On Amazon, they can get it there.

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