Barbell Shrugged - Defining the Diesel Dad Life w/ Joe Bracamonte, Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Coach Travis Mash - Barbell Shrugged #566

Episode Date: April 9, 2021

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I'm Anders Varner, Doug Larson, Coach Travis Mash, all the way from Saskatoon. I got that right, didn't I? You did. Beautiful. Joe Bracamonte. Dude, when you first started the Diesel Dad in November, we hopped on the phone, and you told me one of the most inspiring stories. And I'm so happy that we get to do this because that at a minimum means that we've been training together,

staying in contact on Instagram and going through this process together for what, five months now. And man, how, where, where were you at in your fitness world? And Where were you at in your fitness world? And what was the mindset before you got that beautiful email that said, come join the Diesel Dad? Well, I was actually in a really, really, really dark spot. I mean, I've probably been cross-fitting, sort of cross-fitting in 2011, just getting back on things and went through a bunch of injuries and stuff.

And I was just coming out of a back surgery, then ended up having knee surgery later on just because of injuries coming from CrossFit. And I started getting this really dark spot. If you would have known me saying, okay, I'm a professor right now. I have an academic career. Hold on. Full okay i'm i'm a professor right now i have an academic career hold on full professor now i'm full professor full congratulations sir i only know two full professors and the one of them made me questioned is it really a thing like if galpin gets it come on like anybody just keep going to school forever but now that you have it. Anybody. Just keep going to school forever. But now that you have it, I guess it's legit. Yeah, thank you.

So that was just news of this week that I got promoted to full professor. So like I was saying, I had everything in my life going. You're saying, well, had no reason whatsoever. But I started to get into this depression. And I grew up being athletic, very playing soccer hockey when I when I was in Canada like I'm really competitive in hockey and stuff and then when I went to Spain I ended up like playing semi-professional soccer ending up going through scholarship with soccer playing doing triathlons and all that so and once I got into my surgical right I my fitness got somewhere

like sketchy there because it's really hard to to hit medical school and things but where i was heading right now when i went and got for some reason got to this dark spot my family doesn't know anything then you get covid hits us covid hit me so hard like i don't know especially maybe i was two years that i couldn't go back to even visit my family in Spain. And I made everything, everything, just the minus thing just became like a huge mountain for me. And I saw myself probably around June, July, like not even wanting to get out of bed. You're locked in. And my wife, are you going to get out of bed?

Or my kids. And I couldn't. I was like locked in, super depressed. Nobody knew where I was going. And I remember just opening my eyes and I have like a little picture of my kids right beside my bed. That was the only thing that would make me get up, right? And then for some reason, I go, I need to try to snap.

And there was no way to snap out of this. And all of a sudden, I think one of the things that gave me a little bit of hope is when you guys did that podcast with Rock right now, all of him weightlifting, I go, dude, a five-year-old doing this? And then you guys did that podcast? And I reached out to Coach Mash there, and I go, okay. I sent him a DM, and I said, hey, my son, I want to get him into weight. He's 10 years old, but this has really inspired me. And he got back to me like, you know, a lot of times I tell people,

you cannot imagine how you guys can inspire just a little, especially when you're in a dark spot, just one sentence can change somebody's life. And he comes up and he sends me a message back and he says, find a good place with good coaches. That's going to make a huge difference if you're going to get him in. And I seeked out help from there. And so did here in Saskatoon.

If you look in Saskatoon, there's different gyms. So I found the guy. He's actually an owner of CrossFit Gym. His name is Jason Kane. Two times he's a CrossFit athlete, but he's in his 40s right now. He's like a national champions master, holds over 10 professional records in weightlifting.

I go, hey, would you be willing to try to train my son? And he goes, bring him on. We'll come on. And they have like a little weightlifting club. So you have a little kid that does not even know how to touch, tie his shoes. And he goes, bring him on. We'll come on. And they have like a little weightlifting club. So you have a little kid that does not even know how to tie his shoes. And he goes, you know what? You're going to get yourself. We're going to hook you up with Nick.

Nick is one of their coaches there at CrossFit 306. And they get him. So I walk in. And we're all COVID with all these restrictions. So that was the only thing that would get me to move somewhat. Like my little inspiration right there to say okay i want to get out of bed so i see my son with a pvc pipe right that's that's all i get and then with pvc technique and nick is great like they you start seeing all these

athletes adults right there working out with this guy with my little son they're 10 years and he was a little bit i would have to count reps for him and stuff like that. But then when we got these restrictions come in here in Canada, the gym's locked, right? And they're only allowed eight people. So my son says, you know what, dad, can I go in? I go,

sure. But now they're taking away from me. The only thing that that moment had me, this is like, we're going, I signed them up in September, giving me like, me just seeing him go, that's taken away from me the only thing that that moment had me this is like we're going i signed him up in september giving me like me just seeing him go that's taken away from me right but i'm waiting in the parking lot for two hours trying to visualize him what he's doing and he would i mean he's like if you see he's super athletic hockey jiu-jitsu everything soccer he's done open up the door with the biggest smile on his face and said, Dad, this was awesome, blah, blah, blah, going on on this.

And I reach out to Nick, like the coach. I go, thank you for doing this. Well, you know, he's coming up on this. And then this is where when Anders, I started to kind of – he started – I follow him on Instagram. He started doing this Diesel Dad 100 thing, the full thing. And when I saw that, I go, I need something else, they've taken away, right now, the only thing that I'm wanting to wake up and go see my son trade, what can I, and so I sign up for, like, you know, I'm going to get

this, sign up for the Diesel Dad, and I remember when I get to do Meet with Anders, I had in my head, like, literally, I was thinking, you know, we're just going to talk. This is cool things, blah, blah, blah. Great. And he, right now, I'll never forget, I was expecting maybe a phone call, and I get this FaceTime. He loves FaceTiming. I'm hitting people up on FaceTime.

That's all he does. All I see is this light, I swear. Like, I see this huge light. His eyes are like, and I said, shit. And I said, shit, this is like an angel that sent from heaven to me. Oh, God, don't tell him that. But it was that moment. It was really funny because I came up and I was like ready to say, you know, I'm in this i can't go and all of a sudden just his look i became so i was in tears i broke down in tears saying man you just saved my life you cannot have realized you just saved my life

there's something i am in this and i i don't know i probably got him off guard like he's probably with other people you know i can't wait to wait i go you have seen i am in the deepest hole right now i see no light i don't know how they've taken everything away from me and i don't know how to get and this is i can't go back to gyms with my lifestyle as a as a prof but equine busy Like, I can't make the gym consistently. And it became the most vulnerable moment in my life where I broke down, not even to my family. I've not even done that, saying, man, you just saved my life. This is a program since, like, I've been a dad, try to see this,

and I can't – I mean, you can't go into gyms. Like, if you guys try to go into CrossFit gyms and stuff, try to miss out two weeks and go back into a workout. It's like doing this double Dutch skipping. Okay, am I going? And you get in and you kick it. If you're competitive, like you've had a competitive career, there's just on button. That's your setup maybe to get hit, right?

And with him, he's like, all of a sudden from that moment, he kicked himself. Like he was literally checking in on me he came up and he says you know what there's one day you're gonna make a difference on this and i started chipping into doing that that these are dad 100 it was a huge thing like i wasn't used to waking up that early and and starting to do things and i started to move and all of a sudden i started to see a mindset change like there was nobody right now trying to wake me up i came up and i said shit if he's doing this i'm gonna go do the only thing i can't do is walk because it's minus 40 and i have you get a pass on that one i'm doing that walk right so i i would come up and we start chipping in and he would keep yourself accountable and then you know when the diesel dad challenge came

up and started i rocked that thing there was only two days that i couldn't work out or or do my my my uh protein things it's because two days i had to fast for blood work, and I had to have an MRI for my knee done because I'm still having to go again for like a meniscal tear that they didn't correct well, and I have to go to surgery again. And I kept going. Like, the thing is, when it went there, I was so inspired. I was waking up at 5 o'clock. My son started then to work out at that. I go, dude, you can't wake up that early. You're going to screw my score, right? He didn't wake up and he was up at by like five 30 in the morning to start

doing workouts. And I go, no, you can't do that. You can do this when this is finished. Right. And we kept going. And it was, there was a moment actually there in the middle of the challenge where, where I had an MRI and the results saying, you know what, I have like severe knee pain. Say, you got to go under, you have to have surgery again. We have to go back into repair. So I'm limited in a lot of things I could do with my knees.

And I had the best excuse to say, you know what, I'm done. Guys, you know, I bail out, I tap out and that's done. And no way, like the amount of support that I got there from that group was incredible. I go, you know what, I'm just going to keep doing this. I'm going to keep doing this. And I'm like, this is the first time in like 92 days, like in 105 days, 92 days that I've worked out using this program. And I haven't done that. You go back to like even when I started CrossFit, a year before having my son, I was not that consistent. Yeah.

I was not that consistent. How hard is it? I'm just curious about his depression. Like, is that cleared up, you know? Do you still battle? It's huge. Like, it's a huge thing. And you're up and down, right?

There's moments, especially with this whole COVID, I think the things that hit me the most is seeing some of the activities that my kids that are like, my kids hockey was basically gone, right? My daughter is like, she's in competitive dancing. See her, I think that really hit me, like she won a scholarship to go to Disney for Disney to be discovered at the age of eight. And it got canceled because of COVID. The amount of work that they put in, and all that, that really hits you as a dad that they can't. I always say, you know, it just hit me.

But having your kids suffer this stuff. But weightlifting has been the best thing because he is right now one of the things that he could go. He hangs out with his adult friends, as he calls right there at crossfit 306 and the nice thing is i don't know like for a reason his coach would start sending me videos later later of him yeah and i would see them and like the first day he would come up you know my son had to learn how to tie his shoes then right because i go dude you could snatch clean and jerk you're gonna have to learn how to tie well yeah he understands the third pull much better than he can tie a bow that's rock right now he doesn't know how to tie shoes but he can pull under a barbell i'm going i'll go and he would come up with that smile like he can't even add so he would tell me like if people you know what

matthias or you know he's he's green, a red, and a blue right now. Like he doesn't know how to add weight. He just goes by the colors, right? Perfect. And he has this huge smile. And one of the best things there was last week, they have like a little PR belt in the CrossFit section, right? And he saw that and he said you know what dad i would love one day to hit one of these big prs and be able to ring that bell for all my adult friends that support me here in weightlifting so he hit a pr on his uh clean and jerk and his coach nick

said hey go interrupt that class and ring that bell so he went in and you know he videoed it and i was like when he sends me i'm in tears in a car like you don't think at least i you know i'm not missing i miss out on a lot of things but he he's i'm able to get any videos and that's you know kept it's kept this wheel going of all of a sudden going ahead and saying we're getting out of this hole right you know right now with that mindset and i think to me what's been key that out of all the program that diesel dad 100 that waking up in the freaking morning and doing that getting that blood flow and saying okay i tackle the day i've done at least some sort of movement it's going to be something positive for me and then i go ahead and you know from there i start even doing i'm already

warmed up nobody everybody's in bed well i'll just go ahead and start doing the like imam aesthetic right to follow right so I had before everybody's up everything's out of the way that was great how do you think that is affected like the way that you're you know you're teaching now are you wait are you a vet or are you teaching or both I do both I so I'm a I'm an equine surgeon so I got a position at the University so I do a faculty position at the university. I do clinics. 50% of my time is on clinics, seeing courses, operating them, and stuff like that. I have another portion where I have to teach, and then I have another portion where I do research.

I have to get all that all in one. I have a pretty busy life career with that, just to try to juggle all this stuff. And like, like when I was trying to do CrossFit with a busy, like with my, my family, there was no way there was only one time of the day I can make it. It was like new. So I would have to sometimes schedule my, my, my, my life being on clinic saying, okay, let's see if I could do an appointment here or there.

I could go to the gym. You cannot imagine how many times driving to the gym having to turn back because i have an emergency coming in and then my day's done because then with my kids and stuff like that all the activities i cannot go at seven eight or whatever like that that was the only time of the day so i was missing tons of things and then like i say try to go back into a gym like that that they keep doing all these things and if you have a confederate of mind you really have to try to take weight off off the bar to not get hurt right or do things on it so it's it's a really i was set up for disaster of getting the injuries that i've had because i wasn't consistent and you know i remember one day

one of the when i had back surgery i was two weeks two weeks without going to the gym and what do i decide to go back and do the crossfit open and i got right after the open like right after that workout i started developing some lower back pain i'm saying whoa and it was just wall balls and double unders and i go man i'm gonna crush this and all of a sudden, this was on a Friday when I did it. And the gym where I was going at that time, they would repeat the things like on a Saturday

just to have that, like barbecues. When I got there, I could not move. That's the problem with CrossFit. That's the only problem. Yeah. The coach saw me right there and he's like, dude, don't do this. There's no point. You're there, and he's like, dude, don't do this. There's no point.

You're not going to the CrossFit Games. Just don't do this. Smart. And I was lucky that the next day I have hypothyroidism. I got a blood test on a Monday, and I got called in immediately by my doctor saying, dude, you need to come here. You got rhabdo. I go, what?

No, no, I don't have rhabdo. I go, I treat horses with rhabdo. go what no no i don't have rhabdo i go i treat horses with rhabdo i mean i i i'm not peeing coke i am having a problem that i'm having problem to urinate that that's red flag red flag right there yeah ended up going into like emergency uh the emergency room came up they did an emergency yeah mri on my back and I ended up having a protrusion of of L5 S1 from that workout right like stuff so it didn't really hit me so again that thing of going two weeks not working out to something like that and doing the open that was the

was it just a recipe for disaster right there yeah dude I'd love to know now more recently you're you're mostly just training at home now like you have a garage gym set up and all that i you know what thing this is actually this is one thing i had i have dumbbells i had like dumbbells in a row so i have dumbbells from like from 5 to 50 50 pounds um my wife and a lot of these dumbbells i would have to hide so my wife wouldn't see stuff she was like saying a lot of these dumbbells, I would have to hide. So my wife wouldn't see stuff. She was like saying a lot of times, no, no, you go to the gym. She wouldn't like to see all this like weights going around there.

So if I had to do things, I would hide, get them out. So I didn't have like a bug. She didn't want to see weights laying around. She didn't want to see like saying, so I had my own space. So when COVID hit, my wife had to go start working. So she took a, right now where I had set up my gym, became her office space. And I'm like, oh, dude. We have a problem now.

But imagine like one of the best things that happened to me was as my son was getting to weightlifting, he came up, you know, Christmas comes around. And my wife was like, we're saying we got to go ahead and do our Christmas list. He puts in his Christmas list. I want a barbell for my wife is like, we're saying we got to do, go ahead and do our Christmas list. He puts in his Christmas list. I want a barbell for my dad. Oh yes. I want a barbell for my dad because, and he said, he came up, I want to, so maybe one day I could do, I could, I could lift weights with him. And I go, okay, I go ahead. And I don't see this.

My wife comes up and she looks at me. She goes, are you kidding? Did you tell him this? He's asking for a barbell. Like we tell him, make a list of presents, whatever you want. He took away having, you know, he could have asked maybe, you know, for PlayStation 5. You name it. He took that away so his dad could go ahead and get a barbell. My wife looks at me and says, well, I guess Santa's bringing you a barbell. I go, well, it's not just a barbell.

You got to put some things on the sides, right? That was great. So I ordered a barbell. And with all the COVID, like everything's backordered, right? So I actually been getting a little bit of weights coming in, but the barbell hit my door on christmas eve so when my son opened up he said the happiest thing he was to see that his dad got a barbell and i was like like saying you know that is him wanting that's that little shift so those

little details have to come up and you know yeah saying you know what i'm how old is how old is your son again did you say 10 he's 10 when he started he just turned 11 so he's turned 11 and now he knows how to tie his shoes he can start he's getting close to that compete competition age like you could get him uh doing some competing well you know what actually at the gym where he's at there's another tenure he's a beast like he got when i came up and reached out to jason kane over here at at 306 he's he comes up he goes you know we have a kid and he's competing already like this kid's a stud and the good thing of right there the coaching that they're having is that that um they're getting all these youth athletes like he's good two two kids right now like with a 10 year old that kid

i he's probably done like right now at nationals here he's done extremely well he has like athletes that medal he has actually two athletes too that also do some crossfit stuff at the age of 14 they were top athletes right now here in the city I mean in the country

in Canada so they put a lot of thinking into the program and one thing that I like is that there's not like getting on my son he's getting stronger but they're like nick right now he's really on top of him like the program that he does with him of how many weight what weight he does and somebody my son's so strong like you see his legs right now with hockey and all this yeah dude hockey is the best sport for getting strong outside of just weight lifting yeah just all your legs all day legs and butt and you're 45 seconds 45 seconds

of work on while some monster's holding on to you like that's brutal everything else is simple after that after carrying some 200 pound dude around that's slashing you with a hockey stick at the same time you know canada has got everything like the whole country has got like they're doing for such a small country small meaning in numbers of people like they they're doing really well they have a guy there is probably if he were in america he would be the number one boy you know they have bode sante and that kid is just an absolute terror like he's probably going to medal in the 96 kilo in the olympics so yeah it's good that you're my point

being Canada's got some really good coaches good program so it's impressive I think so you have an 11 year old son and then a younger daughter and those are your two kids is that correct a nine-year-old daughter yeah she is she doing any lifting she wants to start lifting too she is she's really good at like she's a competitive dancer really good but she's strong and she has this competitive mind so like in in a lot of times i do workouts for them and she wants her brother to go first and she says how many did he and she And she'll just push herself to beat him. She's strong. At school – There's only one big piece of chicken on the table.

We've got to fight for it. She's the reigning fourth-grade arm wrestling champion. Who, your son? My daughter. Your daughter. Holy cow. All right. She's strong as hell.

She'll come up and she wants to do like, wants to get into weightlifting. I go, you know what? Because she's still doing her dance, I go, in the summer, I promised her that she's going to start going in to do weightlifting. That might be your champion right there. Dude. She's fast. And you can see she's

not only fast, the flexibility she has is incredible. Body awareness of dancing is going to transfer over pretty well, I would imagine. Last night I set a record and had Magnolia at two years old doing front squats. Oh, wow. She, of all my kids, when we go downstairs, she goes to the weights before all the boys every time she wants to go lift weights. Daddy lifts weights.

Last night, I taught her front squat and she smoked it. I'm like, you boys are in trouble. I know he's going to get jacked. She knows she's got to grow. She was smoking. She had a perfect stance. What bar was she using? A broomstick or a five-pound bar?

2.5 kilos. Five and a half pounds? Yeah, she smashed it. I'm like, What bar was she using? She used like a broomstick or a five-pound bar? 2.5 kilos. So five pounds. Five and a half pounds. Yeah, she smashed it. I'm like, okay. That's awesome. This is my champion. So I think it's so cute when girls lift, you know, little ones especially.

It's so cute. Joe, I'd love to hear kind of the mindset shift. I feel like any time injuries occur and you're kind of like kept out of your, uh, like your happy place, going to the gym, competing, whatever it is like you it's, it's really easy to get into that like downward mindset of everything happening to you. And when things start happening to you, it typically is negative stuff. Um, and, and really kind of that, that, that shift in mindset from things happening to you.

And you've mentioned multiple times how now all, all of these things happening in your life are happening for you, whether it's your kid asking for a barbell, you know, getting them into weightlifting, like kind of having a better relationship with your kids. Shrug family, we're going to take a very short break because I want you to get over to dieseldaddiet.com right now now, DieselDadDiet.com. That is where you're going to optimize your metabolism, helping you lose 13 pounds in 13 weeks, and building a strong, lean, and athletic body you are proud of. You're going to receive three training programs, EMOM Strength, EMOM Aesthetics, and Density Weight Training, as well as you are going to immediately receive a personalized macronutrient calculator that

is going to help you optimize your metabolism, lose 13 pounds in 13 weeks, and build a strong, lean, athletic body that you're proud of, as well as three free months of coffee, the Diesel Blend from caffeine and kilos. That's right, three months of free coffee. Get over to DieselDadDiet.com, optimize your metabolism, lose 13 pounds in 13 weeks, and build a strong, lean, and athletic body you're proud of. DieselDadDiet.com. Let's get back to the show when did you start to notice those things happening in your life better versus the that negative mindset that's that's typically attached to things happening to you that are out of your control. I would say two weeks into the Diesel Dad program.

Two weeks. Yeah. And then it's interesting. Out of all you three, I follow Barbara Shrunk forever, and I take little things of everyone. And one thing that I love was Doug. My wife hates this, by the way. Doug said right now.

She hates Doug. she comes up and Doug had one one of the things he says of reading of putting books all over the place right you know I started doing that right off the bat I read in the month of January four books a thing that I have not done in freaking 20 years if you wish just following those like and I think I spread like I had started off with you know disciplinary uh jockewoolitz things okay I need to get out of this so let's start with this hard code jockewool right now I started also getting this uh anatomic habit book two to three that was got to one saying, okay, let's read some sort of novel, and I chose The Alchemist, right? That's one of the things that I came up.

I love that. You should read The Alchemist every single year of your life. Exactly. That's one of the books that I read. Just buy into that story, and life gets easier. And then I had The Fourth Agreement. So I was running, and my wife is like saying, why are these books all over the place?

I go, no, no, no, leave them there. Leave them there, right? And I went through the fourth agreement. So I was running. My wife is like saying, why are these books all over? I go, no, no, no, leave them there. Leave them there, right? And I went through all that stuff. And one of the things that happened is in the Atatama Habits, they said this was key. Anybody who wants to do the diesel dad, what I took is to build a good habit, you need to try to make it easy, right? So, okay, you try to wake up at 5 o'clock in the morning

fighting with your brain to see if you wake up, and then you have to maybe go downstairs and hold the bar. What I found was the day before, I would say, okay, what am I going to do as my diesel dad 100? I would say, okay, what has Anders done? I'm going to mimic that like from a day before, and then I would set up already the barbell,

the imam aesthetic. Anything that had to be for that workout, even have my workout closed downstairs. So I would get, when the alarm clock came up, I had this little thing

that automatically got Jocko Willink's voice come up. And I woke up saying, hey dude, you got to move. So I would wake up saying, hey, dude, you got to move. So I would wake up and started doing that 5 o'clock. And then, like, had everything set up. That made it so easy then to follow up, right?

And you get this little habit of, okay, let's roll and do this. That's been great, right? That's awesome. With the injury, that was like – that's what I was saying. Like the injury, two weeks into that program, and I tried to be disciplined right there that that made a big big shift in my life i went from like crying like days at you know in in bed or not wanting to get up like to really looking for that i haven't cried in like months right now if you wish getting that emotional yeah dude the the habit thing is so interesting because my trigger, and when you read Atomic Habits, it's such a great book if you haven't read it before, but when it talks about

making it easy and then what is the trigger to the habit that you want to create, and my reward is the same thing, which is the trigger, but turning the coffee machine on, you have to sit there and wait for like eight minutes for the water to warm up, to grind the beans, to do the whole thing. Hit the button, and instead of just sitting there on your phone, go to the gym. Hit your push-ups. Like, do the thing that's the work

while you're not getting the reward, and then as soon as you finish doing what it is, so simple, you go back inside, coffee's ready. Now we have the reward. And what I actually, like the thing that I really actually want out of doing the Diesel Dad 100 every single day is, or five days a week, is I want to go on the walk in the morning. That's like the real thing is that I want to be outside as much as possible. And I want to have like breathe good air early in the morning, have really high quality thoughts, listen to a good audio book. Like that's the real reward. Doing it with a cup of coffee is phenomenal but in between there like turn the coffee machine on

do 100 reps whether it's 50 push-ups 50 squats rdls whatever it is that you could do in the gym and then by the time you're done with that the coffee's ready like i i don't have to sit there on my phone scrolling and filling my brain with crap it's go do something productive while you're waiting for the reward because there's nothing else to do yeah um surgery and all that because i think that that's also a big mental shift in that you have like this mri you've got a knee injury yet you've remained consistent with all of it when it would be so easy to not show up every day. If you see me walk right now, like I'm this far that literally my wife said, you could go on medical leave.

I am like the pain that I have because of the menace is so, so severe right now. I have all the damn excuses like to give up. And you know what, when we had that group, like the dojo that, like the diesel dad dojo that we have, you don't know a lot, but that group is outstanding. It really is. I mean, you know what? The best thing is from that, if you come, you know,

a lot of times like maybe we see you guys as like, we worship you. Like, so wow, these guys are like changing lives. These are famous people. One of the first people, like Anders, one of the things that you did great was when he, when he was not able to do his diesel dad 100, it wasn't, and you know, you would see him like been consistent for so long. All of a sudden he, he, you know, drops off. He's the first guy that comes up and, you know, takes ownership, saying, guys, I've got this, whatever. I'm getting back and start day one. And I'm getting to get to this.

So that was also important to say, man, if he does that, because how easy it is of a lot of people that we see on Instagram just put success. He was vulnerable there saying, hey, it can happen to any of us right now. And even if you see it, one of the things that I found, I don't know if you've noticed this, when you go into our Facebook group, how many dads would come up and start writing like a long thing saying, I've not been able to be inconsistent. Like it's almost like they're punishing themselves. Yeah. Saying like, you know what, I haven't done this. And it was like trying to say like it was like an intervention and all the dads jump out and do this is life just hit start again and bang

and that's it's become even the thing of you know if you feel vulnerable there are people posting things right there yeah and you get the support of every that that's huge and there are people you don't even know right that they come up and you you you get that shift. That's something super, super important. Yeah, I think there's just something really interesting about being male and the fact that we're all – we're here to hunt. And all of our friends – I don't have a single friend that has been my best friend that i didn't train with that i wasn't like that i wasn't hunting with it might not have been like a deer or buffalo but like i was hunting and i'm still hunting and i

talk very candidly on the show many times about how hard it is to find friends that are like in the dad world because most of the time i'm not hunting the same things that they're hunting and because they don't hunt what i hunt i find their hunt to be stupid i find it to be boring and it's not interesting to me i'm like wait a second you're not chasing weights and business and like trying to surround yourself with people that are like grinding super hard to be in the gym and train and do this and i'm like well, whatever you're doing sounds super boring compared to what I'm chasing. And it's just, I'm a hunter. I like being around people that hunt weights and hunt business and hunt like other people that want to be in that space and getting

better in those two worlds. And when you become a dad you you get like put in these like boring categories of life of like well now you're in suburbia and you're like you're supposed to be soft and you're you're like you're like supposed to have these like oh boring go get a couple drinks at night and like just boring stuff but our group is rad because it's people that like lifting weights people that like lifting and eating well and also recognizing like being a dad being a professional being a husband all this stuff like is competing for the time that we spend hunting. And sometimes we lose, sometimes we get in a funk, but there's a whole bunch of us that are in that group that make it really, I've never been in a Facebook group where

I feel super compelled to like actually get to know people and this is it's a really cool group of people to me one thing like if you you see the program the way i see it it is that it is the perfect program that's missing out there like if you go there's a lot of people doing right now they have online program it's the program that fits that thing of people who were competitive. I mean, there were people in our group that were regional athletes, right? To a new stage of their life, being dads that want to have a commitment saying, you know what? It's not about me now. It's about, I need to be there for my kids. I want to see them when they go do their first hockey game or whatever. I need to take them to practice.

So you miss. You have to be – you can't be selfish anymore. So this is a program that you still – I mean, it's – you have the time. You want to still get yoked? Just go ahead and do that, our strength program. When I reached out to Doug saying, hey, my goal is to get back to jiu-jitsu, and I was doing it, and he goes, no, what you need to do is focus on the Iman aesthetic and do jiu-jitsu.

That's going to be perfect. And I go, well, what is it one day I can't? He goes, well, jump in and do maybe a density work, right? So it's that gap of people going from when we were in the gym, you didn't have kids, and you could be right now spending doing two, three sessions, you know, all that time to, you still have that mindset of wanting to be competitive, but what's a perfect program that could fit you on that? To me, it's the diesel, that thing.

Like, it fits everything. I'm getting strong. I'm still, you know, I can't do a lot of things, like, with my lower body, if you wish, because of my knee, but I could, like, I'm pulling some strength that I haven't pulled in years right now, which is good. And, you know, the best thing is I'm not having elbow pain, knee pain, all this cyclic loading when you go cross-fitting.

It's so well-structured that I don't have that. I don't have that anymore. That's awesome. I'm not leading with any of the pain. Dude, go ahead, Matt. I just think he's so – like, I'm actually going to do this program. Yeah, I mean, like, God. I mean, I'm so, like, you're –

Me and Anders couldn't convince you. Joe got you. Me too, dude. Joe, like, he's got me like, I want to be a part of that group, which I'm in there, and I talk to some. But, you know, even one of my best friends is in that group courtney tate he was in my wedding this is one of the diesel dads and so i'm sold so plus i feel like i need for the first time in my life a little extra kick in the behind because of you know i'm in i'm where you were like i'm in school working

on my phd i feel like i'll be here forever but no that's that's when I went through my stuff. It seems like, but you'll, you'll get the moment that, you know, that's a moment that you get the day that you graduate when you have you done your comprehensive exam and all that stuff already. No, when that's over and you're ready to write things comprehensive right now, there's another board comprehensive thing. Almost halfway done is where I'm at. The best thing is when you write your thesis you're gonna have that first page and nobody no reviewer no

none of your committee can come where you could dedicate that thing to your family whatever that comes out that's a thing that would be engraved in that school that nobody could take away from you i am starting that this summer. I'm starting my thesis this summer. And then once you finish that, you know, I remember when I finished, got my board, my surgical boards, my son was born with like he was probably a year, and my wife was pregnant with my daughter.

I felt the relief. It felt like saying it's done, right? It's something just a relief i bet you're like i gotta make some money is what i'd be thinking but yeah but but not only that but it's in the accomplishment you know and then if your kids you know your kids get to see you do i know you're they'll come up and i see it as a you're a role model like saying my dad did this at his at his at an age where he had all the reasons maybe not to do this i know that's why i don't quit because that very thing never quit you never i always tell people you can't do that

because if you quit you know what you're leading up your kid i know it's to say do not chase your dreams if you don't change your dreams they could always go back to you well daddy you know what you stopped your phd they got you right now they They got you there. So it's a way of saying no matter what, I finished. And they can always go ahead and they can see that. How old were you when you went back or when you went to school? Did you go straight through? I did 14, 15 years straight of schooling. I wish I had.

14 years. Like, I remember when I went into my surgical residency, I was saying to my wife, Hey, let's have a kid. She goes, no, I don't want to raise a kid as a single mom. Because I mean, I mean,

with my doing, I have a clinical PhD. And then, uh, uh, with all the, I have called, there was days that I would get home and I would have to go back and

she wouldn't see me because I was up, uh, doing surgery until six o'clock in the morning. Get back, take a shower and go back, go back to work. Right. So it's.

Mash. If you ever think about quitting, I, all you gotta do is call me. I will, I will change your mind. Cause just personally, I've seen your transformation over the past 18 months of,

uh, practicing strength, but never studying it in a manner of like academic like having to prove that you're right you're proving you were right was always on a platform or saying i'm the strongest look at me and now you you have like a completely different window to look at the way performance is measured and it's like super cool to actually see thank you all the things that you're that's the big one why i wanted to do it is because in the past like i remember i got to this big debate once with um what's the

starting strength guy whatever his name is yeah and like uh he's he didn't do it but he sent some people to like debate me and like i just wasn't equipped to all I could say was I'm stronger than you. But now I can say I'm smarter and stronger. Yeah. All the stuff that you're working on right now is super cool. Thank you. It would not have happened had you not walked into people that weren't the strongest in the world, but we're trying to be the smartest in the world.

Right. I know. Yeah. Literally Andy Galpin was the one who like changed my mind and no like and you're going through the faces it's typical everybody goes through phd that is a face that every single phd so you could ask even andy that you want to quit like even like when you talk to lane i'm in it when lane lane or he's even said that right on some of his podcasts it is a normal thing

because you got but you got 80% of the work is already done you're already there it's like basically you're there

it's you're just in that phase that you have to go that every PhD student goes through thinking you know why am I doing this why am I living at minus 40

no Jesus pushed me and it's that's a good question there. You know one of the things that really helped me when you're like that, when I was doing that? Go ahead, and the days that you want to quit, write your name down

and put a PhD right behind it. I know, man. I don't want that so bad. No, look at it. That's when I was taking boards and stuff like that. That was one thing that inspired me saying, okay, do I want to quit? I put that and then visualized what that would mean. That would change your whole life.

You just put PhD right behind your name. You stare at it for 30 seconds and you keep going because that's going to be your life. Is your family, is it typical that people from your family, are they like highly educated and like. No. Like if you see my background, my dad was a butcher when he was here in Canada. Yeah. My mom was like over there in Spain.

She was one of the chefs, seven, seven brothers and sisters. So she was a second oldest and she had to drop out at grade six. So my mom barely write and read. Right. That's my family. The most educated, the sacrifice that they did, like of all the education that I have behind my thing is, they didn't have that, right? So that's one of the things that, and the same goes with my wife.

My wife is super smart. And, you know, we come from very, you know, humble families that are blue collar workers. Me too. You know, that's. Coal miners. I'm from very blue collar. My dad was, when he went back to Spain, he was a horse breeder and trainer. So that's what I, that's my love for horses.

Comes from that. That's my family. Like all my dad's side from my great grandfather, my grandfather, they were having horses. So imagine like, I wanted to say, what could I do different that my family doesn't have? And it was, well, we need a vet in the family. Right. Went to vet school. And then I wanted more of that. So I say, Oh, you know, I really love surgery. I went from there, but I grew up like you talk about blue collar. My dad will wake me up at 6.

You go to Spain, it's really easy to party. And getting back at 6 a.m. was normal. So my dad would come up at 6 a.m. You would party all night. He would just come up and he would drive to our farm, just knock on my bedroom door and say, hey, I want you there in like half an hour. You're not driving because you drank.

You get your bike or you run. And then when I get there, like it would have been, okay, maybe in the summer, you know, with hay baling and stuff. So it was really physical. So a lot of the physical strength and stuff that I got, I think I get it from my dad and his worth it. Shrug family, we're going to take a very short break because I want you to get over to dieseldaddiet.com right now, dieseldaddiet.com. Right now, dieseldaddiet.com.

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Let's get back to the show. That sounds like my family, you know, from a coal miner's family. It's like, you know, whoever told you guys this story is like when Drew and I, my wife, Joe, is like, when we met, you know, her family is super educated. So you got her grandfather went to Yale. Her grandmother went to Juilliard. My father-in-law, he went went to wait hold on I know he got accepted to Duke but he hated something about Duke so he didn't go there but anyway and then

there's my family it's like none of that we just you know my dad went to work at a factory my mom went to work at a factory and so so yeah I I think there's a part of me that just like I just want my kids to see me do this and you know and they have it already on their mom's side i don't want to give them excuse not to do some of these things so yeah but the same thing that you have a dream you're setting them up to say and that's why you can't film now they'd say i know i chased god he just put it on me. You can't tell him that. You're welcome. Yeah.

You can't because I always said that to people. I can never then tell my son, you know, chase your dream because they could always get back. I mean, why didn't you chase yours? Why did you quit? Right? So if they see that, you got it on them. Like they're seeing you go through this process. And when they grow up, they'll remember saying, well, you know what? He went through this and he taught me how to clean and squat and all this

stuff. And he was doing this on the side. So you're leading like a future for them that, you know, they'll, they'll come up and take that. That's a positive thing down the road. I know the coffee companies are making money on me. That's for sure. Joe, is your wife supportive of your son's lifting? It is the chronic. She's happy. Now, when my son gets home and she lifts my wife up,

so that's how strong he's getting. She loves it. She cannot be not supportive because when he gets home, just walks in the door and tells her mom, mom, this is what I've done. I came up. I peed hard. I lifted a blue and a black, and they did this. And all my adult friends were basically playing me.

I mean, he's the youngest guy there, right? They cheer him on. They counter for me. I wish I could record some days the face he has. That's priceless. So she's like, no way. She can never. That, and when he started jujitsu, she was really opposed of him starting jujitsu.

So she went in when I signed him up. She goes, there's no way. Came up to that first free class. She was basically there to back up, say, he's not doing this. Don't sign him up you know how it ended she ended up signing herself up for a 30 day like our 30 lessons of free uh self-defense for women he goes i want to do that that's awesome he's been doing that like he's already he loves jiu-jitsu too that's one thing that i think you'll jiu-jitsu too. That's one thing that I think he'll – jiu-jitsu and weightlifting.

That's great. Yeah. One of the questions I actually really wanted to ask was since you've been on this – I mean you keep talking about kind of the leadership side of things through education and going to school and finishing things you start. How does that feel to be doing that kind of like through a physical education in your household and like culture of health in your family now oh it's great like to see your son wake up at 5 30 in the morning to work out to

my daughter wakes up at 5 30 i'm gonna be pissed because that's my time he's too young to be in the gym with me at that i gotta work yeah and my kids are like my daughter too like she'll she'll go down they have they have like little I got them like little kettlebells. Yeah. Oh, she'll, she'll get on the roar. Right. Things like that. And you know what the funny thing is my son now, like he started, he's just at an age where he started right now of trying to go hang out with his friends outside, like saying, okay,

we're going to go meet for 40 minutes with my friends at a park, right? You know what he asked me? He said, Dad, can we finish up the gym, like build the gym garage so I could bring my friends here? Because you know what? Some of my friends are weak and see if we could get them strong. And he goes, and me with doing some weightlifting, maybe I could help them. And then he says, and then you can do some hamburgers later on to give us some protein right after we're finished. So it is like saying he's seen that shift in health. Like even when he goes to the gym, they're starting to teach him, okay, you know, if you're coming here, bring a banana, like his, his, even his eating habits, I'm seeing to start to shift. So I'm fired up for like fajita night. We got a big game tomorrow. Fajita night's going down.

We are going to eat some steak tonight. We're going to take it to them tomorrow. It's over. I can't wait for Rock and those three boys to have to go out on the field and just take kids' lunch money. It's going to be so much fun to watch. I love the wrestling part. It's my favorite

it's watching them you know it's cool to watch them because you know like i'm not trying to pretend i know about wrestling since my buddy is you know an expert at that it's just fun to watch them and like have no input just watch this is good yeah is rock doing it too yeah rock and bear no rock is actually i don't know which one likes it the most. They come home and practice on each other. They both got to finally – the last two or three times, they've actually been wrestling and going at it. And, like, Rock, he thrashed.

Bear the one that punches his hand all the time? Yeah, yeah. He walks up to you and he's like, I'm ready. Yeah. He's ready to go at any moment. I expected it from Bear. I'm just your dad's don't i'm not trying to fight you back up they love it i'm curious how my boys will do with with fighting and wrestling with each other as they get older because my my oldest it was only 18 months or so older than my than my second uh my oldest is super aggressive

but not not nearly as coordinated and athletic as his younger brother. Younger brother's very athletic, but he's way more passive and calm. I'm wondering, is the aggression going to win out or is the physical capability going to win out? He has more potential

to be athletic, but definitely doesn't have the same mindset. It's going to be so jacked. Do't have the same mindset. It's like a 9-1 body thing. So jacked. Do you have him doing jiu-jitsu? Yeah, my oldest, he is six. He does jiu-jitsu twice a week. You know, I found my son.

He was really – he's really energetic and stuff like that. Found that jiu-jitsu really helped him control a lot of his, his emotions and stuff and control. Not only that, like he's small, but he would be one of the guys that you would, you know, if you were going to go ahead and bully somebody, he would be the guy that you will try to pick.

It wouldn't be your best pick because he could choke the crap out of you. Right. On stuff. Like I've got called a couple of times from school saying, Hey, your son has choked out a kid. And he's like, the has the hardest, biggest heart in the world choke somebody out could be but it was because he was

being bullied and he he would he would be doing like they told him and in jujitsu like saying you know when you get in a situation like that you got to say stop find the teacher you only use this when there's no other no other remedy right and that's what that happened with him like with covid they're like everything they go on these little cohorts and he got this big like a guy that was two years older than him started picking on him because he was smaller and my son was saying stop stop stop pushed him to the ground you know and then my son the guy went on him you know he got his back and he made him tap out. And then he gets called up and then he's such a good kid. He thinks he's going to get in trouble.

So when he goes to the principal's office, they're like, oh, God, like, you know, he won't be able to communicate. He just shuts down. And I know him. I go, he would never, you know, start a fight or anything. He just defended himself. He gets called. And I remember when I got called the first time was saying okay what happened he goes no he I go no no I could guarantee you that this like he has to be instigated and the nice

thing of the jujitsu thing was that he was able to control his opponent right there he wasn't like I guess maybe with wrestling you get a bit more aggressive but then when he came up and he you know he explained to the principal I was being. I told him four times to stop. He's the guy that punched me, got me on the ground. All I did was defend myself. It was great as a thing. And that's one of the things that I've loved from Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah.

Well, I'm going to go be Diesel Dad. Little Diesel's here right now hanging out on the podcast with us. She doesn't have an Instagram page. Hey, Joe, I'm almost positive this people are that and um just your vulnerability and and being a part of the group has been dude incredible it's been a it's been a pleasure to get to know you i enjoy sending you texts at 5 30 in the morning saying happy diesel dad 100 because i know you, because I know you're awake. I know you're working hard. You know you're one hour ahead of me, right? Well, then you're waking up too early, bud.

I'm waking up too early. I'm slacking. Man, if anybody is struggling to find a place that they can reach out, is it okay if they hit you up on Instagram or where can people find you? Yeah, they can find me. You know what? is it okay if they they get a hit you up on instagram or where can people find you yeah they could find me you know what you could actually start off make them force them to go to the diesel dad dojo that would be the best there it is there you go from there i mean i have i'm not that i have like an open account on instagram like i have canna vet you know yeah that's my canada vet it'll be canna vet because when i went to spain actually i didn't know how to speak

english i mean spanish and everybody was like oh he's canadian so my nickname in spain is canna right so i'm a can so everybody knows me by yeah my nickname i stuck with that being a vet there it is i'll be happy yeah um and i want to thank you guys man for changing my life every every one of you has had a very big impact in my life in one one one form or another thank you appreciate you man yeah man coach travis mash mashley.com and uh it's really cool to see what this diesel dad program is doing for people all around the world, especially in places that negative 40 degrees. We're finding people in the weirdest of places. No doubt.

The frozen tundra. Doug Larson. You bet. Find me on Instagram. Joe, dude, I stuck to have you on the show. Thank you for coming on and being vulnerable.

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