Barbell Shrugged - Episode 2 - Rich Froning + Entourage

Episode Date: March 15, 2012

We interview Rich Froning at the Arnold Sports Festival where we encounter a bunch of freaks.

Hey guys, this is CTP and you're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version of this podcast, check out Fitter.TV. You know Rich Froning. Screw interviewing Rich. We just want the friends of Rich. Is that mine? Yeah. I have no idea. So, your name? Jacob. Jacob.

Jacob what? Johnson. Jacob Johnson. What is any notable accomplishments? Notable? I'm just part of the entourage, man. I don't really have to do anything. He was there.

So Rich has an entourage. He was there the first. He was there at sectionals the first time we met. He didn't compete, but he was there. It would be him and Darren. I remember Darren. Are we recording? Yeah.

Okay, cool. All right. I'm Mike Bledsoe here with obviously Doug Larson. Obviously. And Doug's here every time. And I'm here with Jacob Johnson and Rich Froning, Jr. Junior, yeah. For some reason that's been added in the last few years. Yeah, I'm a junior, but everybody kind of puts more emphasis on it all of a sudden. I heard your dad is exactly like you. My dad's exactly like me?

That's what Johnson told me. The real Rich Froning. He'll introduce himself. Tell me all about your dad on the way over here. He's a wild man. Oh, really? Actually, I had the pleasure of eating steak with your father in Colorado. Oh, yeah, you did.

Yeah. Yeah, he's a great guy. Great guy. He's something. He seems really cool. Yeah, he's a great guy. So, all right. So, Dan Bailey has moved in with you.

Yep. Lives upstairs. He lives upstairs. Yeah. And you live upstairs, too? No, I live downstairs. Me and Hillary live downstairs. I was wondering what your wife might have thought about having to sleep on the couch.

I know. Actually, when we get in fights, she's always like, you're going to go sleep in Dan's room. And Dan's like, all right, we'll build a fort and we're going to paint on the walls. It's always the joke. Awesome. Yeah. All right, Dougie. What? So Rich has a, no rich so rich has an entourage oh yeah no here we go let's move up to the microphone yeah or pull the microphone to you

that's fine either way there you go yeah welcome to the party so you're part of rich's entourage i'd like to think so is it like that tv? Actually, we were just talking about that earlier. You mentioned that last night. I've never watched it. Yeah, see, he didn't get the reference, so it just didn't click. So you all live in a big house together? No. It'd be nice.

We haven't invited him in yet. I kind of threw it out there. He'd really pick it up. Hey, Rich, you buy a big house? I'm just hoping Reebok will get Rich a house one of these days and you can move in. Oh, yes. And kick Dan out. And, you buy a big house. I'm just hoping Reebok will get Rich a house one of these days and you can move in. Oh, yes. And kick Dan out. And then you'll be number one.

That's why I've been training. Training to dethrone Dan. Oh, man. So training with Dan, that's obviously – has it upped your game at all or do you feel like – Yeah, it's been good. It's been good for both of us. He's obviously good at running, being an ex-track guy.

Sure. And I'm not a big fan of running, so he makes me run. Oh, yeah. So it's been good. We kind of just bounce ideas off of each other. It's been cool. Who's programming for you guys? Are you guys programming for yourselves?

We program for ourselves. How far out do you like to program? Two days or three weeks? When I walk in the gym in the morning. Really? Yeah. We kind of have a set strength schedule, more or less. But other than that, the conditioning is pretty random.

Conditioning is just random. I like to do some rowing intervals or airdyne intervals every day of some sort. I think I heard you were rowing a lot. I was rowing a lot. Not anymore? Oh, yeah, still. Just kind of – that kind of fluctuates too. It's just every day kind of like how do I feel today.

Got you. Go with it. Are you doing anything with the football program at Tennessee Tech? Yeah, we just got – we got done. They're on spring break now. When they come back, there'll be spring practice. We did some good stuff this fall. I mean, actually this spring, I guess it was.

I added some pretty big numbers. We got rid of the back squat for this season, not this season, but this cycle we were going through, and just had them front squat, and they got pretty strong. A lot of squats, a lot of cleans. I think there was an article. I didn't get a chance to read it, but I was discussing it with somebody. They were informing me, and they were talking about the top seven exercises

posted by an article posted by Elite Fitness, top seven exercises for football players. And one was front squat box squats. And then the other one was just straight up deadlift um those were two of the seven i i don't recall what the other five were right but they were they were common exercises so you guys did any front squat box squat uh we don't do front squat box squat but we do we did a back squat banded box squat a little bit. So you guys are using the bands. Some speed stuff, yeah. We college football players are dumb,

so we don't like to give them things where they can injure themselves. So you find a lot of the freshmen that come in, they're basically having to be taught how to squat, essentially? Even when I started, because before Chip was kind of over or undermanned, I guess you'd say. Chip who? Chip Pugh, the head – Chip Pugh?

Pugh. Chip Pugh. Make sure we got that. I just want to put that out there for everybody. I knew that. Yeah. The head strength coach was kind of undermanned before me. And, well, now Dan's on staff, and we've got two other guys on staff.

Before that, it was him with about 100 guys, so it got kind of tough for him because the GAs before us, I'm not going to say they weren't good coaches, but I don't think they didn't have the background that me and Dan do with CrossFit and actually seeing athletes and making athletes squat and that type of stuff. Part of it was probably just being sold. Yeah.

Like, i know this works we're gonna do this exactly and they were just like they're like oh yeah we're just gonna follow the program yeah you just do whatever chip tells us to most most gas that i've ever met have just gotten a degree and their training no idea is lacking exactly in a big way oh yeah usually yeah yeah so actually with respect to chains and bands how much of that have you incorporated into your training do you do much chain and band work? Not really. I did for a little while.

I guess it was last year. Right after the games in 2010, I did a little bit. And then I just got to where I was like, I'm just going to squat normally. You can't really test that in CrossFit. You're not going to test that in crossfit so really what's the point in working with it that much i mean odd objects picking that type of stuff up i like that type of stuff it's just fun but the bands and chains and all that stuff like you got much out of it really not not for i mean one rep max you don't i mean yeah

you do a one rep max often but it's but it's not the biggest part of the game. So it's more like higher reps, the Wendler type stuff. I mess around with Wendler quite a bit, and it's been pretty good doing five reps. 5-3-1. 5-3-1. 5-3-1 is a solid program. There's nothing fancy about it. It's straight up.

You work super hard on the basics, and you get stronger. That's right. It's perfect. That's one thing I do like about it. It's so simple. Yeah. hard on the basics and you get stronger that's right it's perfect that's one thing i do like about it's so simple yeah so i think i think a lot of times uh talking some power lifters and they'll take five three one and then they'll start tweaking it to a degree that bastardizes it i'm like you're missing the point missing the point now people i think people will get too complex

and try to try too many two different things when stuff's been proven use it you know um you don't really have to make it your own you don't have to i mean you can add your own special flavor to it but still it's work it worked that's why it's so popular don't change it i think a lot of people they're getting results and then they want to change something because they want to like they think that if they keep changing it the results will stay on the same track yeah it same track. Just keep doing the same thing you're doing. Shiny object syndrome. We talked about this. Find what works and stop doing it.

It's the key to success. And then ride Johnson. Oh yeah. You're going to have to speak up here at some point. I'm just zoned out, man. Every five minutes I want you just to go yeah yeah something like a rap video yeah what i want you to ask doug a question you got a question for doug he knows a lot about kinesiology and fish oil to tell what that means and fish oil

and fish oil that's right what do you know about fish oil? We talked about that. You have to watch my episode one, part four on barbellstrug.com on fitter.tv. You're going to know all about it. Facebook that. Facebook it. Facebook fitter.tv. Yep. Like our page?

Like it. I have to like it? Like fitter or fitter? F-I-T-T-R dot TV. It's very trendy the way we spell it. Kind of like my dad does text messages. That's because he's with the times, right? Yeah, that's right.

L-U-V-U. You too, dad. Awesome. So Jacob, ask him a question. Besides what is fish oil? Man, I really want to know about the fish oil. You got mail about the fish? besides what is fish oil man I I really want to know about the fish oil

you got me all about the fish do you take fish oil no no why should I take fish oil ooh turn it around on me

flipping the script I was flipping it I can see you in a bar talking to a girl she's like why should I date you and you're like ah

shit why shouldn't you yeah why should I date you? And you're like, ah, shit. Why shouldn't you? Yeah, why shouldn't you date me? You tell me. Let's see. Fish oil for you. What are your goals? Yeah.

Tell me a little about yourself. A little about myself. Pretty inconsistent with my training. He likes long walks on the beach. Long walks on the beach. Aroma therapy candles. A nice latte. No, go ahead and tell them about your fitness background, Johnson.

My fitness background. Oh, man. Yes. I was what you'd call a meathead, for sure. First time I ever did CrossFit, actually, I'd known Rich for quite a while, and he had just started his own little box up across town and I had accidentally looked through all my contacts

one day. So you're from Cookville? I'm from the neighbor in town. Just say you're from Cookville. Don't tell them where you're from. It's a crap hole. It is. See? See? I hope the microphone's picked up

but I was actually gonna call him to get something to eat with me and it's you know hey man come try out CrossFit I'm like oh I've heard about that no way man I'm gonna lose so much mass that's stupid he's like all right just get your food and come over. So I come over. I'm sitting here eating. And I see this, like, 130-pound kid just throwing down on weights. Like, you know, I'm like, man, I probably couldn't do that. And, you know, here I was coming in. I was like, I was every bit of, like, 230, 235. And, dude, I'm like. Oh, really?

Oh, dude, I'm like 180 pounds right now. Yeah. So. Standing shoulder. Or what? Strict shoulder press, 245. Dude, up and down.

It's like my bench press. But I mean, it was all upper body. I'm not even gonna lie. And Doug's back squat. Oh, easily. Easily.

Dude, it was, For half a rep, on the way down. Oh dude, house on toothpicks. House on toothpicks, man.

House on toothpicks. Oh, I was embarrassed, man. It was humbling. So, you were like, terrified of losing mass. Oh, man. House on toothpicks. I was embarrassing, man. It was humbling. So you were terrified of losing mass, and then you were embarrassed once you got there? Oh, dude, because I was getting killed.

I mean, I'd have to do pull-ups, man. I'd have to use the band because I was so inflexible that I couldn't fully extend. Your shoulders? Yeah. Couldn't do a muscle-up. Not even close, man. I couldn't get it tight enough to my body body so what'd you do to improve your mobility uh a lot of it was losing just cutting down a lot i mean it was slow massive uh too swole too i mean he was a large human being from his waist up yeah that's what i'm sayingick legs. Oh, that's not the first time anyone said that to me.

Oh. Ouch. It was cold. It was cold. It was cold outside. It was cold at night. Wait, so how long ago was that? It's probably been, what, two, two and a half years ago?

Two years. Two years? Yeah, right before, probably March of 2010. Around there, right? I thought it was, like, earlier in the year. It just turned, well, anyway. right before probably March of 2010 around there. Right. I thought it was like earlier in the year. It just turned 2000. Well,

anyway, 2010. Yeah. Let's just say that. So I feel like, I feel like that's a pretty common concern with a lot of guys that don't come in the gym. I call it like frat boy.

Like mentality is like, I don't want to do CrossFit because my bench will go down. That's pretty much the thing that happens. What, what changed for you? Oh dude. Uh, it's just, it was actually, I don't want to do CrossFit because my bench will go down. That's pretty much the thing that happens. What changed for you? Oh, dude, it was actually convincing myself to do it was the hardest thing. But, dude, now I like it. If I could be more consistent now, though, I mean, I'll be honest, that's my biggest thing is I'm so inconsistent with my days.

The problem was he didn't have anywhere to work out. He can't afford the place that he's at or work schedule and they just caused me poor but i mean i i love it man i mean i'm i'm stronger i'm faster i'm leaner i feel better look look way better you know and uh that's a opinion but hey i mean i remember i remember back before I discovered weightlifting and then after discovering weightlifting I discovered CrossFit

I trained a lot for the sole purpose of putting on muscle mass I was in the same boat but I squatted lucky you I remember those days it's one of those things where convincing you that doing some cardio and high rep stuff was actually going to be beneficial.

I mean, it's hard to swallow when all you're worried about is like your physique. And it's funny because when you started in CrossFit, you're probably happier with the way you look anyway. Oh, yeah, no doubt. Gotcha. Well, I think we had more questions prepared for Rich What was it? I don't remember I think they're on your computer

They might be Doug's the organizer of the group Had you guys been in the Arnold before? Last year Yeah, he hadn't been Darren came with me last year How's Darren doing? He's good

He tweaked his back a few months ago. Something like that. He complains about it all the time. He's just a complainer. He did really good last year. Yeah, did real well. He's still mentally. There's something in that kid's head that he doesn't like to lose

or just too stubborn to quit. I watched him. I think his max is like 225 power clean we did a workout that had probably 15 power cleans at 225 and by the end of it he had a busted nose but he got them all done and how do you bust his nut with a barbell i have no idea does he know how he does i don't know i look over and he just got blood pouring from his face and i was like what's your problem was like, take it to 205. He's like, no. The top of the head snatch is the best. Yeah, or 155 snatch.

He had to do like, it was 55 reps. It was like 10 down to one ladder. It's hitting him in the head and he's pushing it up. I've seen that once before. I think that happened in the faction games. Some dude like snatched weight up. It was on his head and he goes. And like the judge is looking at me.'m like i guess that counts whatever that was impressive i don't you may

not want to call it a snatch but it's impressive cleanish jerkish snatch kind of combo yeah our main focus uh since we've been here we've been getting a lot of video of the weightlifting. We've been following one of our friends, Zach Critch. He bombed out. He missed his first three snatches. He went on, and I'm glad that he did do the three clean and jerks. He ended up PRing on his clean and jerk by two kilos. I think it was two kilos. Three kilos, yeah.

Three kilos. 192 was his old max. Okay. He got 195. Wow. 429. The guy weighs 187 pounds. Three kilos, yeah. Three kilos. 192 was his old max. Okay, and he hit 195. Wow, 429. The guy weighs 187 pounds. 186, 187 pounds. That's pretty solid.

And a 195 clean jerk. He beat the 94 kilo class. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, not the 105. Yeah. Because Donnie Shankle got 205.

But anyone that wasn't Donnie Shankle, I want to say Zach beat them. I think Don opened at 195. And he opened whenever it was done. So he would have, Donnie Shankle aside, won the 105s also as an 85-kilo guy. That's so ridiculous. Holy crap. Yeah.

Has it ever crossed your mind to focus on weightlifting or anything like that? Yeah, I mean, it has. You're happy with CrossFit. i'd like to weightlift i mean if there's anything that's you know my kind of secret like that's what i do when i'm bored or when it means it's weightlifting yeah um i do a lot of i usually snatch twice a week and clean and jerk or just clean twice a week so um definitely work on those two a lot. Yeah, so you love the lifts, obviously. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because you guys are programming on a day-to-day basis. Right, yeah.

You're throwing them in there pretty frequently. There's a just, I mean, it's so beneficial, those two movements, and they're just fun for me. So I want to get better at them, so I do them pretty often. What's your best snatch? Clean and jerk. 275, not kilos, pounds, is my best snatch. How many kilos is that?

No idea. Quick math on the spot. No idea. Let me get my calculator. I can tell you. And then... 125 kilos, actually. Last week, I think.

Power clean and jerked 325. Oh, shit. It wasn't the prettiest power clean, but it was a power clean nonetheless. I don't know. I've squat cleaned 335 before, and the jerk's not a problem. I just didn't try to jerk it that time. Hey. What do you weigh?

195. Dude, you need to go you weigh? Uh, 195. 195. Dude, you need to go compete. That'd be fun. You know what? Next year. After the games. Talk to me.

Okay, I'll talk to you. We'll get you. You just need to do a meet sometime between now and next year nationals. But American Open is in December. Right. You'd probably. That'd be way better for you. Right.

Like December's way more off season for CrossFit. You gotta just qualify. Yeah. Go to the American Open and you won't be last. Hey, as long as I don't get last. That's why, that's the way I started CrossFit. Just don't get last.

If you're not first, you're last. But, that's Jacob Johnson. But, I mean, that, that, that's quite an an accomplishment if you can show up to a very specialist specialist competition and then not play flat where you have to qualify right you can't just show the american open right you have to hit like a certain you know uh total total yeah

yeah just going to the american open means you got some skills like my my year this my year my goal this year is just to go to the American Open, just qualify and go to Nationals. Maybe something in December? And I'll probably finish last. If you do well. If I can qualify. But, yeah.

You should do that. That'd be fun. December? December. It's usually – is that Birmingham usually? It's been Birmingham. It's been in Shreveport. It's been in – it was near Phoenix. This last – I think it was not this last year, but the year before. I don't know.

It seems to go back to Birmingham pretty frequently, so it's not far. It's not a bad drive. It's like six hours for me, I think. So, yeah. All right, guys. I think we we're gonna take a break real quick so uh James and Chris will show you a cool video and then we'll come back all right hey guys this is CTP hey and this is James Chaney and uh we've been trying to come up with this commercial here for five minutes so uh we've been trying to come up with this commercial here for five minutes. So we've been failing miserably.

So what we're going to do is just try to explain what we're doing. So tell them, James. All right. So what we're doing is we're doing a documentary about Olympic weightlifting. Okay, if you do CrossFit, you probably know what a clean and jerk or a snatch is. These are the guys in the Olympics that they throw an incredible amount of weight over their heads. In other countries, people know about them. But for some reason, in the United States, no one really knows about the sport and about its top

elite athletes. So we want to change that. We want to bring light to this really cool sport. I mean, there's really nothing cooler than throwing over 400 pounds over your head. I agree with that. So we're going to go around, we're going to follow the top athletes. There's about three or four guys we're going to follow, and we're going to document how they train, how they live, how they eat. I want to find out what makes them tick. And then guys we're going to follow And we're going to document how they train How they live, how they eat Want to find out what makes them tick And then we're also going to travel down to the Pan Am Championships

In May in Guatemala And we're going to film that because that competition Is going to decide who gets to go to the Olympics And there's actually only going to be One guy who's going to go to the Olympics This year to represent the United States for weightlifting One spot baby So if you want to help us You can go, where are they going?

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We're awesome commercial makers. Peace. All right, guys. Mike Blessa back here. Still Doug Larson and Rich Froning. But we switched out our other guest for Tyler Peek. That's right. Jacob Johnson didn't say much.

We're like, we've got to change this guy out. He gave me the ax. He's gone. So you're part of the entourage as well? I am. I kind of got drawn in. Like you didn't want to be a part of the entourage? Is there like a tryout?

It's like it's such a bad thing. No, he's like, I didn't really want to do it, but nobody else let me in. No, there's not a tryout. Well, they don't know there's a tryout, but there's a tryout. There's like a probationary period, and he passed it. He's all right. There's a text you get at 7 in the morning saying, hey, Tyler, let's work out. 2 a.m. in the morning.

My tryout would be more like, you know, it's 7 a.m. It's like, hey, go get me a coffee and meet me at my house and bring it to me. And bring it. No, there's a much more rigorous test. I don't know what it is. I must have done it. I mean, I don't know what it is I must have done it I mean I don't know alright so

one of the things I think CrossFit did that was genius mostly Greg Glassman was to actually define fitness and in doing so they ended up creating the CrossFit Games

if you win the crossfit games you're the fittest on earth right right fittest on earth so as far as as far as that goes you you've won the crossfit games once once yeah and the time before you were you're damn close but for some reason the the rope climb eluded you. The rope climb, it eluded me. Here it goes again. He's like, I don't want to fucking talk about it. Hulk smash! I thought that was over. Well, I got to bring a bowl of shit.

Is that why you brought me on here? So, I mean, like, in my opinion, and probably the opinion of a ton of other CrossFitters, you know, you're hands down, like, the best CrossFitter in the world. As far as the rest of the fitness community, obviously we're the Arnold Classic or Arnold Sports Festival as it's referred to now. And there's all sorts of versions of fitness walking around um if i pick up a triathlon type magazine they're referring or you know a lot of fitness magazines they'll be referring to some

iron man triathlete as the fittest guy on earth right so uh how do you see the um just the general fitness public accepting crossfit fittest man on earth fittest man on earth, fittest woman on earth, stuff like that. How do you think that works? I think it's definitely tough because, like you're saying, if anybody asks who the fittest on earth would be a few years ago when Lance Armstrong was winning all that stuff, of course that's the number one answer because that's what's in the public's eye and all that stuff.

For Americans. For Americans, that's true. in the public's eye and all that stuff. For Americans. For Americans, that's true. You got another country, whoever their guy is that's doing well in a sport. That's true. France is like, we don't know who that is. We just don't like France. Talking about him is illegal. Talking about him is illegal.

Yeah, it's kind of tough, though. Like you're saying, if you don't have a definition of fitness, how can you make that claim and i i think greg's done a great job of you know making uh making that claim or at least the criteria for the what fitness is it's a fantastic argument right like when when when presented it's going when presented it's like oh that's obvious that's the thing is it's got to be presented most people are just like across it's stupid, oh, that's obvious. That's the thing is it's got to be presented. Most people are just like, CrossFit's stupid. Or, you know, how can you say you're the fittest?

And then you kind of have to break it down to them. And even then you have to say the fittest tested because there's, you know, who knows if there's some freak. I'm sure there's some freak in Kenya that could throw something in there. Sure. I actually really appreciate the 2012 CrossFit Games shield where it says, Prove Your Fitness.

Prove Your Fitness, yeah. Yeah, that's the perfect logo or the perfect model really for this year's games or for any year's games is regardless what your definition of fitness is, you can come in here and you can compete and anybody can compete since the Open's open to anybody

and you can see where you stand. That's fantastic. No other sport is like that it's not like anybody can try out for the nfl any year yeah like they say make their way to the world champion of football but i mean yeah it's the best team out of high school college and professional but you know who knows if there's another team somewhere else right so so kind of on that note, the games have evolved a lot over the last four or five years. Every year it's fucking totally different. So last year, do you feel like it was the most kind of honest representation of what true fitness is? The most diverse? Of course it is.

Which one? Which one? Of course it is because I won. Which we won. The only problem you could see with the CrossFit Games and even in coming years is it's got to be TV friendly, which also helps a guy like me that nobody wants to see somebody just row a 10K or run a 10K. It's not fun to watch. I thought you were talking about your abs. Real funny.

If you do the rest of this podcast with your shirt off, I'll give you $100. I'll do it for $50. I think you're worth about $5. In any of those cases, you don't have that much money but yeah it's i i mean you know because everybody's like well they don't have a a pure test of um cardiovascular fitness or you know it's not a long there's no real ultra long event but then if you think about three days 10 workouts it's a pretty long event yeah i say put a triathlete in that yeah yeah swim yeah swim push-up squat yeah exactly run

sure they'd be sucking wind at the end of that yeah yeah no way i about died try yeah not to totally knock triathletes but i'm gonna knock triathletes whenever we get endurance athletes that email me and say that i'm an endurance athlete i do a lot of running a lot of swimming i'm like oh fuck this is going to be the worst they always think they are and then they're always the worst usually actually because of mobility their their endurance is okay the strength usually so so depending on who they are their mobility is just terrible and they can't even do the movements right let alone do them i was the one of the best comments i ever saw was so and so run a marathon in like two hours and something minutes and then the person said i bet i can run a marathon before they'll be able to

clean and jerk 225 yeah that's for sure so you know who's fitter yeah um like you're just talking you got to define it first so yeah i mean I think that's a genius from a marketing perspective as well. So you've been, um, so being at the Arnold sports festival, you're sponsored by BSN. Yep. Uh, you've been at the booth quite a bit. Yes, I have. Yeah. Lots of people, lots of large, large people. So, um, what, what's been your role at the BSN booth? Um, sign autographs to people that have no idea who I am. So what's been your role at the BSN booth? Sign autographs to people that have no idea who I am.

That was going to be my next question is how many people walking through the Arnold is like, oh, it's Rich. It's Rich. I've had a few, but not nearly the guy to the left of me that his arms are as big as my head. Right. And then we had to do a little, they did a little circuit challenge. It was a circuit. They can't really call it CrossFit. So they just did two rounds.

We put people through. I like poods. We put people through some pull-ups, push-ups, and air squats. So it was pretty funny, actually, to watch some of these people die. Yeah. Actually, how much resistance do you get with this this type of crowd you get the bodybuilders powerlifters and actually any other you know uh the guy next to me just thought we were crazy um and the girl to my other side was like i need to i was thinking about starting to try that. And I was like, try it out. She was more of a, um, a figure, not a jacked, like grossly figures.

My favorite actually. Yeah. You know, bikinis. Nice. Yeah. Figures kind of pretty much wears out and then bodybuilding. Yeah.

Yeah. That's on its way out in a big way. Yeah. Female bodybuilding, especially. Woof. So Tyler, Tyler, what's your favorite bikini

figure or bodybuilder definitely the figure i was there at the booth i saw the lady she won that competition the competition in your mind yeah yeah exactly so how long you been training, Tyler? It's about, let's see, it'd be a year and six months maybe. Yeah, probably. Maybe less than that, something. You train with Rich?

I used to a lot more than I do now, but now it's just kind of like just come over whenever. And I got a place at home that Rich will come over and come up and we'll you know tyler lives about 10 minutes from me and he started working out i'll take this from here tyler no he worked out with me for what a year and then when we when we left mayhem and started or went with crossfit cookfield he left me his His dad built him a little shed in the back. Do you sleep there too? I think that was the general idea.

Actually, his dad's pretty good with metal. He can make anything. So he'll go on Rogue's site and make stuff for Tyler. They put their measurements online. It's not very smart. So Tyler's dad's pretty good pretty good at making stuff i think rogue's pretty genius because they do they do put their see your dad can do it for cheaper right oh like if i were to go hire a welder oh yeah and say hey uh welder dude here's all the dimensions could you build this for me and they'll come back with a quote sorry rogue i've done this um but uh

they'll come back with a quote that's higher than what the actual product at Rogue will be. So I'll give them a free plug, essentially. But, you know, like, hey, we want this pull-up rack, this rig, or whatever. You know, how much can it be built for? And they come back, and it's like $1,000 more than what I was going to just spend at Rogue. They're good. It's good. It's incredible what kind of job they do so i wouldn't i would never try to like do what they do we're

done making our own stuff we've done it before it's terrible i don't know we never do it as well as they do not even close just duct tape together or it ends up duct taped that's right this microphone stand, in fact, that's a wire. I see that electrical tape. It's nice. We lost something. It's a good color. Yeah, thanks. What else you got, team leader?

I can hear someone. Is that mine? Yeah, that's my phone. 614 number. Someone from here. I don't know. I'm out of questions. Doug, we had some prepared questions. I know we're missing some.

All we had on the sheet was Arnold stuff, weightlifting stuff, CrossFit taking over the powerlifting area, which I think is hilarious. Oh, yeah. Especially in Columbus, Ohio, the fucking mecca of powerlifting. CrossFit took over their area and they got pushed to the other side of the expo into a much smaller venue. Yeah, Doug and I have been coming to Arnold for years,

and we would always leave the weightlifting area, which is in the same exact spot. Like, when you come to the expo or come to the Arnold Sports Festival, everything's in the same place every year. Gymnastics is in the Arnold Sports Festival, everything's in the same place every year. Gymnastics is in the same place. Fencing's in the same place. Jump rope competition's in the same place.

Power lifting, all that stuff. Well, power lifting used to be in that. Where CrossFit is now, which is, like, probably the largest space that's not the Expo Hall, right? And, you know, you'd go in there like, oh, death metal. And that's what it sounds like, guys. You go in and it's all powerlifting, which is cool. And this was the first year that we arrived.

And we're like, oh, we'll go to the CrossFit. Where's CrossFit? Where's CrossFit? Oh, there it is, where the powerlifting used to be. Were you guys here last year? I was not here. Actually, last year was like the first year I missed. Where were we last year?

We were creating Adopt TV. Oh, that's right. Yeah, we were doing entrepreneurial. That's when Fitter TV was invented. It was one year ago, the weekend of the arm. And we didn't do anything with it for 10 months, and then we restarted with a different mission. Well, actually, history behind Fitter TV, initially, excuse me, it was supposed to be a site just like Netflix, but just for fitness stuff. Oh, wow.

That's how it came about. There is a reason we didn't do it. Oh, okay. Yeah, we had a better idea. This is it. There it is. so yeah that's right it was there last year before that we were here we've been here almost every year i think the first year we competed here was in 2007 years yeah oh seven is yeah five yeah weightlifting we competed weightlifting in 2007 here no i did yeah were you here yeah i was here we but. I did. Yes. Were you here?

Yeah, I was here. You're right. I'm getting my years mixed up. Me and Andy all did. Yep. You remember what you got back then, actually, five years ago? My total was not even 220. It was low.

Oh, really? It was bad. I think I cleaned it. I was like, if I snatched 90 kilos one day, I was like, ah. That's when I dropped that weight on my head. Actually, Doug, Doug,

there's a video. Actually, we should track it down. I snatched, I snatched two 30 and then I clean and jerks two 87. But, but the first time I tried, I dropped it right on my head.

Nice. This is on YouTube. If you want to watch it, we're used to training back then. We were used to training with like shitty barbellss that didn't have the same amount of spin. We showed up to the meet and they're using the Lico bars. We're not used to the spin, so Doug was like... Right out of his head.

Right out of his head. I went to jerk it and it went forward just a little bit and I over-rotated and went back and it hit me right on my head. Nice. I went out two minutes later and got it, but was like whoa that was not that was not patient with that yeah so i the cross it's huge yeah one thing we noticed though is like i didn't spend very much time in the crossfit area this year um or in a year um spent most of my time in weightlifting that was pretty exciting last night 94ilo weight class was super exciting,

partly because John North is in that weight class, and he's a nut job. He's pretty entertaining. We won't show him this video. But we're trying to go spend some time with John. You know, he sounds like a nut job on stage, but if you talk to him face-to-face,, off the platform, he's a super nice guy. Like, just, like, he's like, hey, man, how you doing? You know, like, not how he presents himself on stage.

So you were watching him back in the training room, and he, like, hit anyone who watches any videos. John North is, like, really loud when he's on the platform, and he's getting everyone to cheer. And, you know, he's just like, get there, big salute. He, like, I guess he's back in the training area, hit a snatch, and he's getting everyone to cheer, and, you know, he's like, get their big salute. I guess he's back in the training area, hit a snatch, and he's like, you know, blowing the smoke out the barrels of his guns. Does he always salute, or is he making fun of Kendrick? I think he was making fun of Kendrick. Do you know if he always salutes?

Because Kendrick would hit a lip, and he would give a salute, and then John North, he was coming up, he's the weight class after Kendrick would hit a lift and he would give a salute and then John North he was coming up, he's the weight class after Kendrick and I think he was just Did Kendrick lift? Kendrick did really well actually He smoked all the snatches I think it was a 156 snatch 198 clean and jerk

I'm not sure on his snatch, but we watched him do a 202 cleaning jerk a while back, which is pretty good. The American record. We were here last year when he passed out. Oh, really? That's right. Yeah, scary.

I saw the video of that. Scary. There were some guys that passed out. Actually, one guy laughed a little too loud when he passed out. Everyone around us is concerned, and Doug and I are like, ah! out actually one guy one guy laughed a little too loud when he passed out it was bad especially on the replay that's why i mean i think we were laughing a lot of people maybe a lot of people weren't weightlifters they don't know that like it's you know if you catch a bar on on your throat or you know like you know, you cut that blood off, you'll pass out. And then you'll wake up. And the guy didn't, like,

fall and land on his head. He, like, sat down, and then went, like, out. It was pretty comical. James was actually, where he was getting his footage from, the guy's mother is standing, like,

right next to him. She's like, I'm gonna throw up. Yeah, yeah, Jared Fleming, his mom was right next to him. She's like, I'm going to throw up. Yeah, Jared Fleming. His mom was right next to him. Yeah, it was Jared Fleming. She's like, oh my gosh, I can't watch. Oh, I'm going to throw up.

Wow. I spend most of my time in the weightlifting area. What's funny is in the past, I've always found CrossFit way more exciting. That's one of the things that drew me from weightlifting right um to crossfit was uh how exciting it was and it was exciting for me as a competitor um and just just training was a lot more fun than weightlifting at the time i think it's because i'd been doing nothing but weightlifting right at least a year and a half stuck in a rut yeah um at least psychologically and uh and i started crossfitting but i noticed that uh watching the weightlifting was more fun than

watching the crossfit this weekend i think part of it was because there's nothing in line i mean it's just kind of a well yeah yeah i mean anyone could sign up and do the the crossfit workouts but then over on the weightlifting side it was was just elite. You had to qualify to go to nationals. So only the best were lifting. So I think that's almost any sport. Yeah. If it's the best are competing, it's worth watching. Right.

Like watching a peewee football game or a professional football game. Yeah. Which one would you rather watch? Totally different. Unless your kid's there. Then I guess you probably want to watch a peewee. Exactly. With CrossFit being at their own sports festival,

I think maybe they should be probably featuring. They definitely do a good job of featuring you guys, more elite athletes, but not the whole time. It would be difficult without putting on a full-on competition that actually counted. Yeah. I mean, even, I guess it was yesterday, they were doing some strongman hybrid CrossFit.

It was Rob. Yeah, I watched some of that. But, I mean, that's not pure CrossFit, so it's kind of like whatever. Do you think that you're going to see more? I was sitting there watching all that, and I was thinking, you know, is this a telltale sign of what's to come at the CrossFit Games? Rogue sponsors the CrossFit Games. And, you know, if they do this stuff at the CrossFit Games,

then they can sell more equipment, right? Yeah, but I think – I still think it's just – I mean, yeah, we'll see some of that stuff because you're going to see some – but you'll maybe see one event or one of those things. You're not going to see just that's what the CrossFit games are. Personally, I don't think because that's not purely what CrossFit is. And you've got Castro's mind behind it. That's true.

You're going to see some crazy stuff. What does that mean? What are you saying about Castro? You know me and Castro. I'm not insulting him whatsoever. You know Castro and I know me and Castro. I'm not insulting him whatsoever. You know Castro and I are super good buddies. I'm not insulting him at all. I'm actually shocked at how prominent Rogue's presence is at the Arnold.

I see their stuff with everybody. I thought it was probably just the CrossFit community. Rogue's stuff's cool though. Oh no, their stuff is awesome. I think their stuff is the shit. And their customer service is great. I can't say enough good stuff about Rogue, but I didn't expect to see all their stuff

all over the expo hall and all the fitness and bodybuilding stuff, too. I saw a Rogue bench press plates bar. Really? I see their bumpers and their equipment. That's awesome. They're having pull-up contests, and it's all on Rogue rigs.

Their stuff is everywhere. It's good stuff. It really is good stuff. Are you sponsored by Rogue Rich? Yeah. Honestly, people at home, I didn't know that. I am now. I was again faster last year.

We won't talk about that. We won't talk about that. We'll let that. year but we won't talk about it. So Rich do you have any questions for Doug? Why should I use fish oil? About life flow. I do use fish oil but... John's over there like yeah, why should we use fish oil? He still wants to know please tell me on the cab ride home he's gonna be like i really still want to know he's gonna he's gonna google maybe we shouldn't talk about it he's gonna google it it'll force him to watch our first episode

all right tyler do you have any questions for doug not me because i don't know anything yeah i'm a question asker but he's the question ask i don't know i'm doug and i'm going to question asker. The question asker. I don't know, Doug. I'm trying to think, buddy. He knows everything, by the way. Mike likes to put people on the spot like that sometimes. Yeah, I know. I'm thinking. You've been sitting here for 20 minutes. One of the very first podcasts we had.

Wait, who was on our very first podcast where we had all the equipment? This equipment? Yeah. Alex? No. The one before that i think was alex it was alex yeah it was alex like the very first thing that happened you were like okay this is the podcast uh so alex you do weightlifting and stuff tell us about weightlifting and stuff and alex was like uh i got nothing you just gave like the most open-ended question ever. He had nothing to say about it. I mean, I'm in podcast.

Tell us about how you do things. He was like, oh, shit. It's not like he's been weightlifting for years and years and years. I don't know what to do with my hands. What do I do with my hands? He had just done his first weightlifting meet three days prior to the podcast. He's like,

I like weightlifting. I like to lift heavy stuff and put it over my head. You can tell me to shut up and we can edit this out later if you want. I don't care. I'm not talking about what we've done so far. Where we're going. Rich is like, like yeah you say a lot of stupid things it's fine just keep it's okay yeah and and don't feel and if he wants to add anything out we'll we'll make it happen we're not gonna we're not gonna like make you look bad but i was talking

to you earlier at the at the party i like how he prefaced what he was about to say he was like i mean any anything that you want us to edit out, we can. So anyway, about this thing I was thinking about. About that crazy chick. He's like, we're going to edit this out. Take it out. Now,

you're talking about all the attention you get and stuff like that. It kind of gets overwhelming. And then right after you told me about that, I like hey you should come to this podcast um you know it's it's it's cool it's just been uh a complete 180 from i mean two years ago when we met yeah i mean it was just it was my entourage and now it's just everybody asking for pictures. So it's like, I mean, it's cool. It's definitely flattering that people want to have my picture with them, but it's just like.

Is it surprising to see that come from the CrossFit community? Yeah, it is real surprising, you know, because like I told you guys, all I do is work out. It's not that big a deal. I just work out a lot. And I think that a lot and I think that I think a lot of people who are new to CrossFit actually uh they find you to be like maybe novels not the right word but uh they're you're kind of like an idol to a lot of these

guys that are new to CrossFit and I met you like you said at your first competition right exactly and um I actually saw you and I was like, this guy's doing it all wrong. It sucks. I was like, I'm going to go help. I was trying to be helpful with a lot of people. Not that I'm like a genius about weightlifting or anything like that. But you know what you're doing. One of the movements was the snatch and I was like, you know, helping everybody out.

I knew I wasn't going to win or anything. So I was like, I'm just going to try and help everyone make everyone as good as possible. And McGoldrick's going there. Mike, stop helping people. I want to win. Oh, yeah. Mike was in third, I think. Or second.

He was in second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Mike McGoldrick for you at home. But, yeah, he was like, but he was joking, too. Right, yeah. No, I know Mike. So, yeah, we're all friends. But it's one of those things where I was like oh yeah you should change this or that and you were actually really receptive

and that was cool at the time i was like who's this guy i'm like the whole time like who's this guy and i'm just helping everyone and then like you end up like winning the whole thing i was like what just probably i probably didn't have to tell you anything i was like so i didn't have to tell you anything I was like I didn't have to tell you a damn word And you probably would have just totally smoked it That's not what he said when he got home that day He was like I taught this guy how to do it Every single one because of what I told him

Everything The only thing I left out was the rope climbing Yeah Appreciate that Left out that chapter It was pretty cool i mean having having met you on that day and then and then thereafter it was kind of like uh and having been in crossfit for a while uh uh not that i i don't think that you're i mean i think you're

great and all but like um like i'm like i'm not like we should get a we should get a picture with you and i thought it was kind of funny like so i get the at the party and people are like can i get a picture with you yeah i kept on happening i thought that was pretty funny yes um but you know if you're brand new to crossfit you're just like you know maybe bo jackson is the baseball or something like that you know right i don't he's like that's right i don't know i don't know about that i don't know about that. I don't know about that. And football. And football. Both of them. Sorry, Bo. If you're listening.

Well, something funny about Rich, like before CrossFit really blew up. Back in Covell, nobody knows who he is. You know, they're like, who's Rich Froning, you know? I tell people I'm going to the Classic with Rich. Who's that? They don't know him, and it's crazy. They still don't know him. I mean, it's more now since the ESPN.

They're like, oh, I've seen him on TV. But other than that, no, I watch CrossFit. It's weird. It is pretty weird. How many people in Cookville do CrossFit? How many people are in Cookville? Is it a big group? I know it's outside.

I went there once. It's like 40,000, and then we have quite a few surrounding cities that, like, during the day, they bring in more people, so probably like 60 or 70 during the... That's where Johnson's from, and it's terrible. Where? Monterey, Tennessee. I want to talk about it. Monterey.

C. C. What a... So, is it a college town? Yeah about it. Monterey. C. C. What? So is it a college town? Yeah, it's a college town. Tennessee Tech is there. They were the first ones to implement CrossFit football. 10 or 11,000.

Did that play any part in you doing CrossFit? Yeah, actually, the head strengths coach was one of my professors. He was teaching a training for performance class because I was getting my undergrad in exercise science and uh showed us videos every day and was like hey you need to try this stuff out so you say undergrad most people when they say undergrad that means they went on and did more school well i'm working on my master's right now your master's and what uh exercise science i think it's just fitness and wellness they have different concentrations or whatever but yeah exercise science very cool so they's just fitness and wellness. They have different concentrations or whatever, but exercise science.

Very cool. So they were doing CrossFit football before you showed up. Yeah, Chip actually. They were the first school, right? Yeah. I figured you helped pioneer that. No, Chip's actually, he's the one that showed me CrossFit. And he was a GA, or no, he went to Ohio University

where Josh Everett was a GA while Chip played football. Oh, really? So Chip learned from Josh Everett. Yeah, so it's pretty cool the way it trickled down from there. I haven't heard much about him lately, Josh Everett. I used to hear about him all the time. He's a Navy SEAL or a Navy strength and conditioning coach. He's working at NSWC in San Diego, Coronado.

He's training SEAL teams in strength and conditioning. Right. Yeah, he's their strength coach out there. And he still posts on CrossFit.com. Yeah. Yeah. You can still see his scores on there. Yeah.

Doug checks CrossFit.com every day. Daily. Do you? No. No. No. No. Yeah, Doug does his own version of crossfit slash training uh he's a fighter so

he does mma so he does a lot of strength training his conditioning consists of uh fighter type stuff gotcha you know fighter stuff fighters the stuff super scientific that's right fighters classified classified yeah my metcons are pretty limited but gotcha most of it's pure strength stuff strength and power stuff and then

all my conditionings sparring and wrestling and pad work and on and on gotcha I don't like getting hit in the face no me neither

there's just something about it I could be a fighter if I just didn't get hit in the face there's just something just pissing me off we've actually talked about like marketing a gym that way it's like train like a fighter

without having to get punched in the face. Like, oh, I'd be genius. Be awesome. Like, yeah, I want to look and train like a fighter, but I hate being hurt. It's terrible. It's terrible. And one of the things was like,

Doug and I used to be training partners, and pretty much it ended when he punched me in the face so hard that blood shot out everywhere. And, uh, and I couldn't train for a couple months cause my blood, my nose, it was seriously like, he like, he like jacked it up big time. So those things were like, I couldn't wrestle. I couldn't box. I couldn't do anything.

Maybe hit the bag, but we weightlifted a lot too. So I just focused on weightlifting. You had two black eyes for a while, dude. He, yeah, yeah. He hit me. You had two black eyes for a while. Dude, yeah. Yeah, he hit me. I'm like, I'm still going. By the way, I was hungover at the time. I was like, he had like a fight coming up in a week.

I'm like obligated to go train with my training partner. I was like, oh my God, I'm going to feel terrible. I'm going to go train with Doug. At the time, I didn't mind getting punched in the face at all. I was like, getting punched in the face doesn't bother me. Just don't kick me in the leg. By the way, if you guys want, let Doug kick you in the leg after this. I'm good.

Terrible. You wish you got punched in the face. So I used to not mind getting punched in the face, and then he just totaled my nose. This is one of those things where you hit the nose and you're not crying but you're really crying you're crying you're like your eyes are tearing but

you're not crying I'm a man no it's funny I didn't even know I was jacked up I get hurt I saw stars I was a little wobbly on my feet but that was pretty regular No, the funny thing I didn't even know is jacked up. I get hurt. I saw stars. I was a little wobbly on my feet, but that was pretty regular. A little tell you, but if I'm ever slow to answer any questions in the future, that's why.

I was pretty used to that. But, you know, one of the coaches was like, blood, blood, blood, stop, stop, stop, and there's, like, blood all over the mat. I'm like, is that my blood? Doug, what what i do to you i do have a question now doug why'd you hit mike so hard was it some like underlying issues or what was going on that's right it's just i think it was an accident actually i didn't know that i hurt you he didn't he yeah afterwards he was like i didn't even think i hit you that hard i'm like dude you connected like like you hit the sweet spot i hit you a couple times and then and then i kicked you in the leg a few times and then and then you like really pissed him off you knelt down and i was

like oh he must he must be tired i guess he's tired i'm so tired i took a knee and then when you had black eyes the next day i was like oh wow you really did get hit hard yeah I was so tired I took a knee. Must be hungover. And then when you had black eyes the next day, I was like, oh, wow, you really did get hit hard. Yeah, I was like, I went to the bathroom and stuff. And I was like, oh, I think I'm done for the day. And he's like, oh, you're just being a pussy. And like the next day, we were roommates at the time. I come out of my room and there's like two black guys.

He's like, yeah. Oh, wow. Well, boxing is kind of like weightlifting. If you had a snatch totally perfect with good technique, it just fucking flies up there. You look so much more powerful than you are, right? Same thing. Like, if you connect on a punch, like, right at the end of your extension, and they're, like, moving in at the same time, and everything all just comes together perfectly, it's going to just destroy somebody. That's why you see guys in the UFC, and sometimes they'll get knocked out, and the guy's just like. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it doesn't look bad. You're like, that's not you see guys in the UFC and sometimes they'll get knocked out and the guy's just like yeah oh yeah it doesn't look bad and he just you know he falls down totally unconscious and you're like that was that was weird almost yeah so I actually missed out on there was like a couple

months where I couldn't do anything because as soon as my nose got touched I mean it was like that nah it was like just tears start pouring out of my face. You weren't crying though? No, not bitch tears. Regular tears. Man tears. And then grad school started and then the gym picked up and I discovered that when I was just doing CrossFit

and no MMA that I felt really good. I was like, my joints feel oh, I didn't know your joints could feel good. Everything hurts so much all the time. I didn't know what it felt like to be healthy, but by doing just CrossFit.com, I felt really healthy.

I was like, oh, okay. The lower volume training and not getting punched in the face. Not getting punched in the face or kicked in the leg. Yeah. I still don't. I still don't get punched in the face or kicked in the leg to this day. Don't kick me.

Don't kick me. Terrible. Oh, geez. So what's it look like for you this year? Do you get a bye in regionals? No bye. Okay. But everybody.

It's prove your fitness year. It's prove your fitness. That's right. We don't know you. Every year it's different. There's no pre-qualified, but if I make it, they're going to take an extra spot. Right. Makes sense.

What about Dan Bailey? He's got six, so it doesn't matter. But Graham, if Graham gets in again, they're taking another spot. Okay. So they normally take, what, top three out of regionals? Yeah. And so if you get it, then they take top four. And then if Graham gets it too, they take five another spot. So they normally take top three out of regionals? Yeah. And so if you get it, then they take top four? And then if Graham gets it too, they take five.

Our region is sick. It's stacked. I remember looking at a blog last year that was talking about regions and how competitive they are. The most competitive region was Europe. The whole continent.

Because there's a lot of countries there right spoken like a true tennessean is it i've been there now so i can actually talk like that there you go so then um uh and the second most competitive was central east which is our region right so i think a lot of people get a little discouraged yeah by that but i mean they're taking two now so and they said if we don't qualify crossfit reserves the right to invite whoever they want i think i saw that someone and i was reading the rule book the other day i was trying to see if one of our guys could compete if he didn't do all the open wads mike yep yeah that guy that guy. Mike McGoldrick. You better look at his scores.

Well, cool. So basically CrossFit reserves the right to invite anyone that will make them money. Is that basically what you just said? I'm not saying a word. I didn't say that. I didn't say a word. Dave Castro, if you see this, he said that. I'm totally friendly with that, by the way. Making money is totally cool.

Making money. Even when other people are doing it. It's an abundance mentality. That's right. All right, guys. I think that about wraps it up. Unless Rich got any questions? No, I'm good.

Tyler? I answer questions. I'm good, man. You've been talking to him this whole time. I know, man. I don't know wraps it up unless Rich got any questions? No, I'm good. Tyler? I answer questions. I'm good, man. You've been talking to him this whole time. I know, man. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Between you and Johnson, I couldn't hear myself think.

He's like, looking out from the corner like, I hate this Doug guy. Punch him in his face. Now I know he's a fighter Don't kick me in the legs James make sure you got a video camera for that Tyler I'll go with you first Is there anything you want to plug right now? Do you have a blog?

Do you have a blog or Do you have a website? Or even anything you like to follow Are you sponsored by any companies? No, I just take the pictures for Rich. That's about it. Hey, can you snap this photo? Yeah, sure.

What website do you publish that to? I need to get one. We'll put it that way. What would you call that website? Photos by Tyler. I guess, yes. Short and sweet. I'm going to punch you in your face.

Alright, Rich, you got anything you want to plug? Who's your sponsors? Rogue Fitness, Reebok, of course, and BSN. Is that all? I think that's it. Don't forget anybody. You're going to hurt their feelings. I know. I don't want to make people angry? I think that's it. Okay, don't forget anybody. They're going to hurt their feelings.

I know. I don't want to make people angry. No, that's it. No friends you want to plug? Tyler and Jacob. Yeah, Tyler and Jacob. Thanks, man. You live in Cookville, ladies.

These two guys are available. That's right. I actually don't know if they're available or not, but they are. They're very available. I'm going to assume they are. All right, Doug, what's your plug? My plug? I got three plugs.

If you want more podcast material, you can go to Fitter.TV. Fitter.TV. Fitter.TV. Spell that. That's right. You think the whole world's going towards.TV websites. Is that right? That's right.

Well, if you're doing webisodes, yeah. What? If you're doing webisodes. what if you're doing webisodes webisodes i just learned something new lingo yeah so we're kind of riding the front of that wave the dot tv wave doug doesn't even know it i do now you teach me something new every day i'm happy to know you we didn't know you we got we got we got a technique. WOD.com. If you want to learn sweet exercise videos from me personally, and sometimes Mike, and if you're in the Memphis area and you want to do a little training, faction, strength and conditioning,

you can learn from Mike Bledsoe personally. Home of CrossFit Memphis. That's right. Um, is that it? I thought you said you had three. That was it. That's one,

two and three. Fitter, technique, WOD. Oh, yeah. He stole one of my plugs. So, that was it that's one two and three fitter technique quad oh yeah there you go he stole one of my plugs

so which one did I take from you fitter.tv I was hoping it was technique and this is barbell shrugged

which is one of the shows on fitter.tv so keep listening and we will see you guys later thanks for tuning in bye thanks fellas

see ya awesome that was really good well Keep listening, and we will see you guys later. Thanks for tuning in. Bye. Thanks, fellas. See you. Awesome. That was fun. Well. What was the question? I was like, Tyler, ask him. Is there a group that can make a grown man shit his pants? No.

You should have asked that. Josh, you missed your chance. Anything that you know you shouldn't say is going to sell great. Oh, yeah, you should say it. You should say it. You should say it. Let me go time around. Oh, that's funny.

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