Barbell Shrugged - Episode 6 - Robby Fromin

Episode Date: April 4, 2012

The Barbell Shrugged crew is joined by Robby Fromin, buisness owner, and soon to be CrossFit gym owner about opening a CrossFit gym.

Hey guys, this is CTP and you're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version of this podcast, check out Fitter.TV. Think of all the weird CrossFit jokes we all make on Facebook where you're like, Snatches and wads. If you didn't know about it. You blew your wad on a snatch wad. That's exactly right. And then someone looks at that and they're like, Oh, that's sick.

What's wrong with these people? I don't know. I just think it's a weird. Do you recommend getting rid of the internet? Just for the sake that we go back in time like we did 200 years ago, get fucked up on mead and party in a field and forget all about it.

That would actually be really cool. What I do think is going to happen is that at some point in time, you're going to go to a job interview and dude's going to be like... All these questions about like, Chris, did you ever smoke marijuana? And then 20 years ago,

you're supposed to sit there and say oh no you know and now everyone's gonna go you know I tried it of course I did but I don't do it anymore you know I think people will admit to all kinds of strange things because they're gonna have to

well because there's evidence well there's evidence and I think what I would call call non-normative yeah non-normative behavior what we consider non-normative which actually is in a lot in large part normative will become more normative the internet's going to confront people

with questions of sexuality of substance abuse weird word when you think about it well I mean clinically that's what you some of these things you'd say what are your clinical what are your clinical qualifications uh i have i've read a lot okay there you go yeah i'm as qualified as most senators i'm a simple man now wait a minute you you read them books i believe i believe steven's wrong, Chris. Chris is actually a book burner.

What? You burn books? No. What? Just the bad ones. Just the bad ones. I burn them in my mind. Alright, guys. This is Mike Blutzo here with Barbell Shrugged, of course.

Again, we have Chris Moore. Hello. Hey, I'm Chris. Hey, how's it going? James Chaney. Yo, what's going on? What's going on, fellas?

It's good to be here. And the giggly Robbie Froman. I still don't know why I'm here. Who's replacing Doug? Neither do we. Who is replacing? I'm the... We'll refer to you as new Doug.

Yes. Speaking of Doug, so Mike, you mentioned you wanted to do a full-on trash talk session about Doug since he's on his way to Africa. Oh, yeah. He is, it's after 7 o'clock, so he's already on his plane on the way out. And so, yeah, we were talking about posture earlier, and you were talking about how Doug's posture is so good. I can't even.

I'm too close to this thing to sit. He always sits, like, ultra erect, right? Yeah. Did you just say erect? Ultra erect. This podcast is sponsored by Doug's Ultra Erect. But really, I mean, the best posture, I don't know how familiar, is the one that's always changing so like to always try to keep that very erect posture would not be a good thing

yes a constantly is there research about this you don't well you don't want to sit in one spot any given time or else um the muscles will get short so you're you're advocating being fidgety. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Kind of like the whole standing at your desk type of thing. You don't want to stand completely still. You want to shift to one foot. You stand at your desk? Yeah.

You got to stand at your desk. Fidgeting and wallowing. I'm a big wallower. I fucking love to wallow. I'm sorry. I'm going to get my chair and do this. Do you stand at your desk? No.

Do you know anyone that literally stands at their desk? Yeah, I do. Mike Bledsoe. He has a standing desk at his house. I think it's stupid. I don't understand why. How are you supposed to focus? There's research to support that it's better brain function.

Standing up is better brain function. Yeah. It increases circulation. Standing up is better brain function. Yeah. It increases circulation. Standing up and moving. There are some people that actually have mounted desks to their treadmills to help increase circulation for better productivity. That's a good point because look, look, look, look, okay. At some point.

Not me. At some point, there's all these things you could do that they regularly better but at what point do you just default to

some sort of self-preservation look I gotta I gotta fucking work I'm not gonna stand behind a desk on a fucking treadmill

and type on it supposedly from what I've heard about the treadmill like what kind of existence is this it only takes a couple hours to get used to it, and then you're in the saddle, like, forever.

So, I'm not gonna do it. I'll just stand. I do enough exercise otherwise, but... How do you type when you're just... How do you do anything like that? I don't know. Maybe it's just, like, a leisurely stroll on the treadmill. Yeah, I don't think he's speed walking.

Hold on, though. The thing is, of all the shit. How can you redo anything when you're walking? Of all the shit in your life, where you're like, you get up in the morning. I mean, I'm older than you guys, but I get up in the morning and I go, God, I feel like ass. And then you self-degrade. You're like, I shouldn't have had, on the way over here, I had YOLO. I shouldn't have had that.

That's why you eat a lot of fucking YOLO. I love that shit. I do, too. My rule of thumb is. What is YOLO. I shouldn't have had that. That's why you eat a lot of fucking YOLO. I love that shit. My rule of thumb is... What is YOLO? It's frozen yogurt. For the people... Oh, oh. Not everyone that listens to this is from Memphis.

Oh, it is a locally owned and operated frozen yogurt place. What's your favorite flavor? What do you get? Dreamy chocolate. It's also the name of my favorite movie. No, that's not 100% true. I'm a chocolate guy. I like chocolate.

Sometimes they have red velvet cake, which I go for. They had a caramel, like a Dolce de Leche or something, the Midtown one one day. Did you call me something? You said that and then you looked at me. My problem with YOLO, I love the business, I love the toppings and the atmosphere,

but they don't have a whole lot of originality and variation with the flavors, at least Memphis one at least. If I could combine the atmosphere and toppings, structure of YOLO, with the quality of yogurt at TCBY, now I've got

the perfect place. TCBY is still the dopest place for the yogurt. I don't know if I agree. But I just like chocolate. Okay, at Christmas time, what are they going to have?

An option is going to be eggnog frozen yogurt. You eat eggnog frozen yogurt? Every time I walk into YOLO, it's always the same like five flavors. They have a white chocolate and chocolate and some stupid tropical flavor.

I don't want anything. Hold on, though. Because that means you've got to put fruit in your yogurt. I don't want any fruit anywhere near my dessert. This whole thing is stupid. There's an important thing I was trying to say, though, before we got on this. Well, they try to give you Tahitian vanilla. This shit is just vanilla.

They just put fucking Tahitian. Vanilla is vanilla. Oh, I knew something was different about this vanilla. I do hate... They just put fucking Tahitian. Vanilla is vanilla. Oh, I knew something was different about this vanilla. I do hate how they read it. Before anyone gets very far into this podcast... The very idea of tropical vanilla. What is that supposed to mean? Before anyone gets very far into this podcast, just know you're going to be wasting your time.

Here. On the resident world. No, but the point I was going to make about this whole walking crap or whatever or standing desk... Back to the posture. Of all the shit in my life that I'm like, I do wrong. I shouldn't have done that. Or I could, you know, maybe I shouldn't have had yellow. I never get to the point where I'm like, everything's so good.

I think the one problem I have is sitting in a chair. I sit in a chair too long. I think this needs to be addressed. I think what drove, well, there was two things that drove me to do. Insanity, number one. The standing at the desk. Yeah. One was repetitive back injury.

So, I mean, actually, anytime I stretch my hamstrings, I get hurt. But that's why I don't believe in stretching. You get hurt a lot. But I find that I get hurt more frequently if I've been sitting a lot. Really? So, I get tight hips, and that ends up hurting my lower back during the lifts. See, but how much do you actually sit at a desk, Ravi, during your workday? You're up walking around.

It depends on the day. Some days, as much as maybe four or five hours. Okay, well, there's some people— Well, then you need to be standing. I sit for eight every day. Eight hours every day. If you ride in a car for that long, don't your hips just feel bound up? I feel wonderful.

No, they do. But riding in a car. How is that any different? It just feels different. I can't describe why. It's because you probably move around and you stand up every half hour. I stand up. I'm short enough that I can stand up in a car.

Thank you. No, I'm talking about at home. You that I can stand up in a car. Thank you. No, I'm talking about at home. You go pee and all that kind of stuff. Well, I was going to say I do stand up and walk around. And then sometimes I do – what was the Tom Cruise movie where he's the sports agent? I know you know this one. Oh, Show Me the Money. Yeah, what's the name of that?

Jerry Maguire. Jerry Maguire. I do because I have this little window in my office where I can see the sales floor. So I'll do my Jerry Maguire where I stand up and I'm'm very important i talk on the phone and i walk around and i look it's my jerry mcguire so i guess i do that that's why my hips are so supple well i think it's better just to to conscientious conscientious easy for you to say i can't even get it out today. You got to think about. Chris likes big words.

I'd rather just sit down and then go, okay, I haven't moved in an hour. I'll get up and walk around and get some coffee, stretch it out, shake it out, get a little swagger back, and then sit back down and get into the writing. I'll tell you what, I wasn't sure about. I used scaffolding, which was in my garage from my stand-up desk originally. It's not. Oh, do you have a legitimate stand-up desk now? No. It's still a scaffolding.

No, I like the scaffolding. It's got that rugged look. So I – Whatever makes it look less cheap in your mind. That, and I'm a cheap bastard, but – Oh, this is plenty good. This is plenty nice. But it actually ended up being like the exact height I needed,

which is actually kind of hard to find. So that's why most stand-up desks are very adjustable, like if you spend $500. If you really believe in the stand-up desk. But I stand up at the desk as a test, and after the first day, I was sold. I mean, try it for a day. Let me ask you this. If I were new to CrossFit Memphis and I came in and went through the fundamentals course, which session would they talk to me about standing up at work?

I mean, I understand what you're saying. That would actually probably be held to the, when you went through your one-on-one mobility assessment with Doug Larson. With Doug. And Doug would go, I did that. And I actually found it helpful, the exercises he gave me. But during the process, he would go, wow, okay. And I kind of had that feeling like, God, I'm made of stone or something. And then he'd go, it's not bad.

You want to stretch it. He never said anything about standing up. No, that's because, I don't know. He didn't care, did he? Doug's sitting down most of the time. He sits down most of the time. Yeah, but he sits. Ultra erect.

Someone else. So from a productivity standpoint, I was reading a book on, you know, just. Were you reading it standing up? I actually like to lounge while I read. Yes. I like to practically lay down. So I usually sprawlled out on my couch um but the other thing is uh k-star he talks about standing at his desk when he works so he does a lot he doesn't

really sit and that's what's wrong with a lot of people's hips and their mobility is they sit all the time they don't do enough squatting like all of us here probably feel pretty good because we squat a good bit but if you take someone who doesn't squat at all and they sit all the time, they're all jacked up. I will say one thing I'm constantly astounded by when I'm dealing with, you know, you get those people that are like, tell me about CrossFit. So I always kind of start with that, you know, squat. How many people can't, like they just can't squat down?

I mean, I guess coming into CrossFit I could squat a little bit, not as well as I think that I can now. But some of these people, and CrossFit, I could squat a little bit. Not as well as I think that I can now, but some of these people and young people, you know, fairly young, 20s, that sort of stop with their knee at 120 degrees. They've never done it. I couldn't do it well at first.

Yeah. Those girls wearing those high heels, they can usually squat pretty good right off the bat. Having worked a job where you have to sit at a desk for close to eight hours a day, I can tell you it freaking sucks. And it was so like, I constantly like how to get up and like,

I would try to stand at the desk and like, but I had to like kind of bend over because it was, you know, it wasn't made for standing. That would explain your extreme anterior pelvic tilt. I have a pelvic. Do you have extreme anterior pelvic tilt? I noticed that. Why? Hey, why haven't you ever told me about this he's never looked you in the eyes

when did you i don't know when did you start crossfit uh like two and a half years ago and were you fit before you did that i was i was like lobo gym fit so like not really i mean i so i mean did it punish you the first few months you did it yeah like i would go home like you know training in the afternoon early evening i would go home like try to do homework and i i would just like pass out like it would just it demolished me and then wake up that makes me feel better wake up and eat eat eat yeah yeah. Yes. I felt like I was eating all the time. I was hungry all the time. And yeah, I would sleep quite well.

That reminds me. How is your weight gaining venture going? I have been. For those at home. For my fans. Yeah, Robbie's trying to put on some pants. I'm curious. How much do you weigh, Robbie?

If you could share. Today, I weigh. If you don't mind telling the people. Today, seriously, this is kind of a thing. I got on some pants. I'm curious, how much do you weigh, Robbie, if you could share? Today, I weighed... We don't mind telling the people. Today, seriously, this is kind of a thing. I got on the scale. Assuming the scale at your gym isn't a total piece of shit. No. I think it's legit, right?

Yeah, it's pretty legit. Today, it said I weighed 157.1. I had clothes on, and it was at the end of the day, so that morning weight. But that's the most I think I've ever weighed. In your life? Yeah, any time I've've ever gotten on scale oh you're getting jacked yeah i'm huge so uh everyone's on my ass because i'm not uh i'm not very big here you know mcgoldrick's out of the country so i'm gonna bring him up because he can't he'll forget about this or not see it uh he got on me not very long ago because you know shep and i were talking this guy, if you don't know who Shepard is, that goes to our gym.

And he's like my mirror opposite. He wants everything to be heavy and big weight and everything. And I want body weight. I want to throw myself around. I'm like, let's do something gymnastic. He's like, ah, let's lift something. So we were having this back and forth. And Goldrick just sort of got on me.

He's like, throw it all out the window. it out the window and i'm like what what out there he's kind of he's a kind of intimidating guy if you don't know he is i'm like what he's like you know you're you're the size you are just you're just gonna have to accept that i've seen guys your size you know do this or that or the other just throw it out the window so i was like oh okay master motivator so i i i tried to throw it out the window. I was like, you know, I'm going to make – What does that mean? What does throw it out the window mean?

I discussed it with several of my friends. Don't make excuses to keep trying to gain weight or lift heavy things even though you don't. I think he was saying don't try to gain weight. Don't try to lose weight. Just accept the way you're at it and just train hard. But it depends on your goal. Like if your goal is to go to the CrossFit Games you probably don't want

to focus on your weight too much and really just focus on your power output you know and your ability your work capacity and stuff like that so if you're getting stronger and your work capacity is growing and stuff like that then don't worry about it but if your goal is not to go to the CrossFit Games and all that kind of stuff then you may

want to put on some muscle mass well I guess I'm just I decided about four weeks ago after the throw it out the window conversation, I was like, I'm going to try to put on, because everyone I know is a little bit bigger than me, and as you guys know, I work out with a lot of women who are all stronger than I am, and it gets demoralizing. Hang on, hang on.

What? Why do you train with so many women? I don't, you know, I work with women all the time. Well, yeah, I mean, it's a comfort zone. Really, I hate to say this, but honestly, I'm very comfortable around women, more so than huge jack guys telling me to throw it out the window. Just scare the shit out of me. And your industry is?

I sell women's clothing. And I will soon be the purveyor of fine fitness is that the name of the gym no no what is that it's fine fit fine it's i'm just upscaling crossfit the gym will be named crossfit chickasaw meaning that he's opening up i'm i'm opening up a gym yeah this is not did you know that chris this is not my show oh yeah No, it is. I was like, another gym? What the shit? CrossFit Chickasaw. CrossFit Chickasaw.

It's on Poplar in Chickasaw Explace in the Chickasaw area. Is that where Isabella is? Ella. Ella. One of my stores is in that shopping center. Oh, yeah.

It's right across the street from Chickasaw Gardens. Is this going to be a female-only CrossFit? It's so funny. It should be. Is that female plus Robbie? Female plus Robbie. Hello. Someone asked me that today.

I wish I would have thought about that. Dude, people have year for years would make fun of what I do until they come by on a busy Saturday. They're like, dude, this is what you do every day. I'm not going to. I wouldn't make fun of what you do for a minute because now you get well-to-do fit women coming in looking for clothes all the time. Imagine. You hope those are the people you deal with. They're not always.

They're not always. Well, they're well-to-do. They are well-to-do. This guy's a fine purveyor of... A purveyor of fine clothing. Yeah. Now you're going to be a purveyor of fine fitness? Fine fitness.

But going back to this whole weight thing, because I talked to Chris about this, and it's freaking me out. I have been eating like the heavyweight champ of the world for almost four weeks now. I've got one more week, and then I'm throwing in... I don't know. I said I'd give it five weeks. Would you take my advice? Do you try? I tried. What advice did you give him?

What would you tell him? Chris' wife was the first person the other day at the gym who said... She's like, Hey, how are you? She's like, You look bigger to me. I'm like, Really? Oh my God! I know. hey, I said, hey, how are you? She's like, you look bigger to me. And I'm like, really? Oh, my God.

I know. And that's when you went. And it's the exact opposite. It's the exact opposite emotion that women have when you tell them, oh, he looks skinny today. They go, yeah, freeze frame high fives. If the role was reversed and I said, you look bigger to me, she would have flipped out. And got slapped.

Yeah, and probably kicked my ass. But I was so excited, but I can't keep eating like this. And I tried. Chris said to me, okay, get some coconut milk. Put a couple scoops of whey powder in there or protein powder. Well, I told him to go, you got to go liquid route. Yeah, liquid is the way to go for chewing food is tough work well that and just digesting all that okay my old mild mild shake you know one point one point

280 to 370 unless the years that's like twice of me plus. It was crazy. It was crazy. But what did it was, let's see, the milkshake. Did it have frozen yogurt? No. Cold 45. Whole milk. Whole milk, heavy cream, honey, two or three scoops of protein powder, peanut butter, one to two bananas, and probably a scoop or so of maltodextrin. I used to get maltodextrin from a brewer's supply.

It's basically just dumping a bunch of sugar in there. But these shakes were like, man, I mean, one to 2,000 calories. Also, though, what were you eating before bed every night? And maybe this was after you'd gotten a 370. What time of day? One to 2,000 calories. Also, though, what were you eating before bed every night? And maybe this was after you'd gotten a 370. Was that for weight gain or just maintenance? Who knows? I figured, well, I want to squat 1,000 pounds, so I better get really yoked.

I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I was like 22, 23 and completely clueless about why I was doing this. Tell your bedtime ritual. Oh, I know. You mean the candy? Yeah. It's so funny that later on, I told Brian, I was like, I don't really know why I don't eat that much to be 370.

One time, I remember I remember I found out about his bedtime ritual. Professor Galpin laughed at me one time, I remember. And then I found out about his bedtime ritual. Well, Professor Galpin laughed at me one time. Professor Andy. Dr. Galpin. Who used to live with me. I'm not going to call that fucking doctor.

He probably listened to this and laughed. I think he assigns his students to listen to this at homework. Yeah. He saw me. Hello, class. Actually, he does make them watch Technique WOD for homework. Yeah. Really?

Well, your professor used to live with me. And one day he laughed because I was like, Thanksgiving, I brought home a sweet potato pie from my parents' house. And the one that was watching TVS ate the whole pie. He's like, what are you doing? But no, but about every night, about every night, I took a,

like a third to a half of an extra special Hershey's dark chocolate bar, like baking bar. Yeah. This is like three normal candy bars. It's like at least equivalent of a one big, that would dredge each wedge

through the jar of peanut butter so we've got a nice pile of peanut butter on it. Eat it. You're eating like Jiffy peanut butter, not like organic, no sugar added peanut butter. It's just fucking peanut butter. See, I would eat about half the jar of peanut butter and a bar and a half or whatever of dark chocolate.

Oh, yeah. I'd never have a problem sleeping. Really? What are you talking about? You probably instantly fall asleep. bar a bar and a half or whatever of dark chocolate oh yeah I've never had a problem sleeping really you guys have a diabetic coma every night I remember I remember I would also

for something look look the ignorance of youth okay at one point I was like well I want a healthy snack and a slate

and I want to eat like oh I don't know some kind of XYZ food. I figure, oh, I'll just do popcorn. So I would eat. This is,

this is funny. This is self-deprecation and funny and whatever. I don't care. I throw it all out there because that's all I can do in this life. But I would pop two bags of, like,

the fat-free popcorn. Eat fucking two bags of popcorn. But here's what I would do i'd be like well it just tastes like cardboard that's like that's a lot of carbohydrate too a lot of just oh yeah so it's like 10 o'clock at night i'm eating two bags of popcorn i'm like well i want a little flavor on there so i would take uh like the butter flavor cookie spray to spread all over the place oh god it's delicious i want to say i want to say, I want to say, look, I want to tell you it's delicious,

especially if you have the cheap Kroger kind. It tastes like fucking butter. Hey, look, I would go, okay, well, the label tells me what I need to know. I wonder if you would

taste that now if you would still think that. Probably not, probably not. If that was just like what you thought. But if you look at the back of the label on those spray cans of fat,

cooking fat, I always get a little confused about it. I go, oh, okay, like a third of a second is a serving size, and there's nothing in this. There's no calories. So I just fucking spray it.

I just spray it all over. It's weird because fat is on the thing. There's no fat on the serving size, and I'd be confused. I don't think I had taken nutrition at this point. I was pretty young. But then one day, like five, six, seven years later, I read the story. Like, yeah, they're not obligated to report.

If it's half a gram or below, they can round down. To zero. So if I get if that's half a gram of fat, they can just call it zero fat. That's how they... So you're using like a can for every two bags of popcorn.

A hundred servings of popcorn. You were carpet bombing your popcorn. This is a good point for people about nutrition. What do you think... If you think you somehow can't lose weight. I've tried everything. I've tried the diets. I've tried the exercise programs. I just can't lose weight.

You are fucking eating way more calories Than you think It's probably some sort of hidden shit that you're not considering You need somebody to sort of audit what you're eating And tell you look You're an idiot You're spraying 45 grams of fat on two bags of popcorn Every fucking night

This is why you are hugely fat Or Or You tell people you can't gain weight I've tried everything boy let me tell you how much food I ate I had

two eggs for breakfast no I had a sandwich for lunch I had a shake after I trained and then I ate two pieces of pizza before I went to bed and I know powders

who eat like 15 meals a day to the point where 15 meals just to stay just to stay like 220 the point where just to stay like 220, they're trembling with nausea. Putting a spoon in a bowl of whatever, just getting it into their mouth and it's like closing their mouth and trying not to throw up. That's how you know you're eating a lot of food. People who have a hard time losing weight, they're i don't know i'm doing it and then you find out they're you know they're drinking you know five sodas a day right now they're doing everything right but they have that

one vice that totally throws them off and they think that it's just one thing you know or the moment you ask them the right you know have a diet log for three days. It's like, I mean, I don't ever cheat. Maybe one cheat every three days. And then it's like, oh, wait, I eat Snickers bar like every two hours. Or no, my favorite is pomegranate. You've seen the commercials. They're like, I didn't even realize I was eating Snickers bars at all until I started writing it down. I've heard this.

I've also had people that are like You can sit there and have a conversation With them about what paleo is About what good nutrition is Macronutrients, everything And then they talk about How they're making all these changes And they're like so optimistic And they're hitting it hard

And they can't understand why they're not getting results faster And then I have them fill out a diet log And they've cut back their McDonald's trips from five times a day to three times a day. Do you know anybody who's gone to McDonald's five times a day? Yeah. Routinely? I'm referring to a real client. A real client.

Five times a day? A day or a week? No, a day. They were proud of themselves for cutting it back like two or three times a day. They thought they were doing good. I know people. Well, I guess it's better. proud of themselves for cutting it back like two or three times a day they thought they were doing good i know people well i guess i know people that will drink uh two two liters of soda a day which sounds like if i said to you guys right now like on a bet drink four liters of coke that would

kill me oh my god it would send me into a dive into a coma what's about coca-cola yeah i'm talking about any kind of thing i drink one glass i want to fill up and they don't think they're so desensitized to it, and they don't realize the amount of sugar and calories. And yeah, they're like, well, it's just Coke. I mean, that's not vegetables. It's mostly water. Yeah, that's exactly right.

How else am I going to get hydrated? I remember being younger. Or Gatorade. They go, Gatorade's good for you. Oh, man. It has electrolytes. 100 grams of corn syrup in it. for you. It has electrolytes. 100 grams of corn syrup in it. Brando.

It has electrolytes. That's exactly right. I'm not going to say his name, but I used to coach a pro fighter and we got to be really good friends and he and his wife invited Doug and I over to his house for dinner one night. So we're over there eating dinner and we're like

eating. We haven't trained like that day at all we're not gonna train yeah and he pours gatorade into his like that's what he drinks for dinner like not water not tea not wine he's drinking gatorade like orange gatorade at dinner i know and doug and are like, looking at each other like, um. As long as he's like, do you want to tell me or do you want me to tell you? People just don't even begin to realize, and they get so desensitized to, well, here's the deal. I used to drink heavily. And after a while, you begin realizing you have this problem when and people don't do this with

sports drinks but they're equally as deadly in my mind you know if you if you just pour a glass of whiskey no ice room temperature and and you can start drink yet gross i'd like one though uh and you just start drinking it you're so desensitized you know to it you're like oh this is fine i can almost drink this like it's water and you set it down and other people in the room are literally like oh my god the smell of it alone is gonna make me pass out and you're like i may be an alcoholic but i do that now you know if i sit down and had like like uh chris just said if i sit down and someone poured me a big glass of coke and i drank it it would probably uh nauseate me and definitely put me into some kind of like sugar coma but but if you drink coke all the time well you're always up here

yeah you don't care anyway yeah you don't have any idea that's like people who drink one cup of coffee and they can't go to bed for like three days oh yeah that's me i could drink a cup right before i go to bed it'd be fine i'm just like you. And I don't care. 2 p.m. Grow a pair, man. Let's make this a man thing. Just make it like you do any other training goals. Be diligent with it. Ramp up your

exposure to caffeine. Get it. I want to be sensitive to caffeine so that it's more effective. So I go on. Look, throw it out the fucking window, dude. Go to Starbucks, get some coffee, and just deal with it. Get on a first-name basis with the baristas.

Do an experiment on yourself. See how much you can drink and not go into shock. All right. So, Robbie, you're opening up a facility, CrossFit Chickasaw with Michelle Kenny. I saw the segue. With Michelle Kenny. And Jeff Baxter. And Jeff Baxter. Yes, the three of us. Who's Jeff? Do we know

Jeff? Jeff is, he's a Memphian. No, he's from here. He's a firefighter. Is he a CrossFitter? He's a CrossFitter. He's the quintessential crossfitter in his garage at the fire station and he he has a great skill set and is a real laid back you guys would like him i don't know he's come to memphis a few times

but what yeah we may check him out bro now immediately i know blitz is like yeah it's olympic lifts i'm sure i could pick apart well that's like 90 of crossfitters that yeah 99 but uh anyways myself included anyways okay so this is uh a women only jim besides you and baxter me and baxter that is untrue someone actually asked me that today and I don't know where that idea came from. We're going to be straight up CrossFit. I've seen some places lately that they're incorporating yoga or you guys have a pretty cool little layout

for power lifters. Strong man equipment. Strong man stuff. We might have some strong man toys but not nearly the stuff that well i've you bring up a really interesting point maybe you can tell me your thoughts on this is uh and i've been seeing that trend of uh having yoga in in the crossfit gym yeah and uh and i obviously people don't share the same opinion i share because i'm seeing it i'm seeing it more and more often and

i'm also seeing crossFitters that are like, oh, yeah, on my off days I go to yoga. I'm like, oh, my God. Well, what's wrong with it? Maybe this is something that would be better addressed along with Doug, but the problem is... It makes your orgasms longer and more intense. Is that true?

I don't know. I'm going to yoga right now. Anytime you lift, there are certain joints that you want to be very mobile. There are also just as many joints that you want to keep stable, right? Correct. So when you go to yoga, you're basically promoting range of motion and mobility at stable joints. I think yoga, this is my opinion, yoga in and of itself is its own pursuit. And just like someone, I have a great friend who is a very good distance runner. He's super.

How much can he deadlift? Yeah, immediately CrossFit is like, really? Well, what can he jerk? But he's great at it. He loves it. That's what he wants to do. But that completely takes away, he probably doesn't have a six inch vertical leap. He can't, you know,

I'm sure he can't move any weight. But if that's what you want to do, that's fine. I think if yoga as a pursuit is something you want to do, that's great. I don't know how on earth that would help you as a CrossFitter. I want to know. Exactly. That's why I'm like a a little i've had weightlifters and crossfitters talk about doing this and crossfit gyms i feel like it's at odds with like if you're if you're if you listen to what kelly start says at all like if you go to mobility one yeah i feel like if you're going to

use yoga to promote mobility then you kind of miss the point of his website. I'm like, no. Just do the homework he's listed on here if you want to be a better person. What I want to know is how do you win at yoga? 3, 2, 1. There's no competition. This is stupid.

The other thing that's I guess there's easy maneuvers and very complicated maneuvers. I went to yoga when i was younger quite a bit to help put me to meet chicks let's be honest that was one but uh put me in a more relaxed mindset kind of like calm me down and stretch and stuff like that this is before i had had my now superior knowledge of mobility but anyways well here's the other thing that you bring up a point when when and james and maybe it's just me i feel like i work out a decent amount and on on my off days or like if i do a hard workout in the morning at 5 p.m i'm not like

boy what can i go do now most of the time, I haven't trained myself to stand or run slowly all the time. But most of the time, I'm like, I'm just wrecked. And I'm waiting to catch up to the next workout. So the people that go, oh, I want a little 5K run at the end of the day. I'm like, what kind of, unless that's part of what you want to do. What kind of convinced person thinks like that? I'm convinced that they didn't train hard enough. That's where I'm at.

I'm like, if you have, if you do a tough hour or whatever you're, however you want to, if you want to call it a WOD or whatever your programming blocks are,

if you go in and really go after it, I don't know where you find the energy to just, yeah, I'm going to go run a 5K later. I'll tell you what this is.

If I'm on vacation or something like that, I can work out in the morning and go scuba diving in the afternoon, and then I can go back and do something else. It's because I don't have anything else on my mind. So that person might not be challenged at work, or they may not be challenged in the other areas of their life. I can see that. You make a point.

I could do a 10-minute jog in the morning to kind of get the blood flow going for productivity purposes. But thereafter, I could do – Who invited this guy? Get him a coffee. I won't sleep tonight. My wife will hate me. Mike, are you saying that people that train too much are basically bored at life? Or dumb? No, no, no, no, no.

Well, you just called me bored and dumb, sir. So what I'm saying is, like, I can work a whole work day and not, you know, lift any weights. And at the end of the day, I don't want to go train at all. I'm totally spent. It's not my desire to go, you know, compete in anything. People who are on the path to try to go to the crossfit games or something like that and they're training two or three times a day i don't think i i think they could still be working really hard at work they're just their capacity is really high but to actually

have the desire like i think like you were talking i think i'll stack a 5k on top of what i did today is like no you probably can do it in the short term but you'll burn out eventually if you are training very hard. Well, and my thing is, when you start talking about CrossFit Games athletes, you're talking about an incredibly narrow band of people,

and we see them a lot now because it's sexy. You know, the CrossFit Games are coming, dun, dun, dun. And there's Rich Froning with his shirt off doing crazy shit. By the way, I offered him $100

to do the podcast with his shirt off, and he wouldn't take it. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it. He doesn't need your $10. That's not the Rich Froning I know. One of the guys in his entourage said, I'll do it for $50. Wait, Rich Froning has an entourage?

Oh, yeah. So I offered one of the guys in his entourage $5. How many guys does he have? Check out. Well, it varies. At this venture, at the Arnold Sports Festival, I think it was only two. So it was the skeletal crew. They refer to themselves as the Entourage.

So is this like Entourage? Is there a turtle? One, are they all decked out in Reebok? Well, I asked them about that and I guess none of them had really watched the show. So they couldn't comment on it. They're too busy lifting weights and riches. You know, when you see him and doing his crazy

shit in uh what looks like a barn or someplace and you're like that's crazy and these guys are crazy well you know what was interesting i mean we've been talking about how crossfit has been creating celebrities and uh you know when uh when we were at the arnold sports festival last weekend you know a lot of the top crossfitters were there ron orlando and dan bailey and rich froning and these guys and people want to take pictures with him. And, you know, it's still, I mean, Rich, from what he was saying when we were hanging out with him, he was just kind of, he's like, I don't get it. He's like, all I do is work out.

I just work out a lot. You know, why do people want to take their picture with me? He gets publicized, but you see those people. I know people all the time, especially young, young, impressionable guys who say, how did you see that video of, you know, James Hobart doing some crazy thing? And I want to go do that, you know, or he said he works out four times in a day. Those people are both unusual in their physical talents and motivation, and they represent such a small group of people to what i think crossfit is it's just one of those things that sort of drives me crazy when people like i thought about the eastbound down quite like three times now like what trying to play a real sport not being the best at

exercising tell me tell me you said that to rich when he was here well first time i thought about you said how do you win at yoga how the fuck do you win swinging kettlebells? You just do it faster than everyone else. What the fuck can do praying man is done? All right, so that leads me into an interesting...

Someone posted a question. It was Trey from Chattanooga. Hi, Trey from Chattanooga. Hey, Trey. So there's a question for Robbie. He posed it for us, but since you're... You're going to make me look silly. Since you're opening a facility, I'm hoping that even if you don't have an answer for this,

maybe we should work through this anyway. Okay. How do you appeal and market the CrossFit philosophy to the average Globo Gym member? How do you convince women that it won't make them big? That's a main concern with female students here in chattanooga is that they say that they don't that they want to be toned and not nasty that's the first time i've heard that thank you not nasty really not nasty yeah uh okay well is there a level of tone that's not nasty that or that is nasty i don't know i only want nasty girls at my gym uh i'm a huge fan of nasty. I think the Globo Gym person is the, when I say target, the easiest target in America.

One, you're not going to get anyone to come into your CrossFit gym that's happy with what they're doing. This is just my opinion. So like my buddy, who I love dearly, who's a great distance runner. That's what he wants to do. And his whole training and everything, his life's built around it. He loves it. He's not going to come CrossFit. He knows he's not so powerful and not so explosive, and he doesn't care.

Yeah, he can run a 230-something marathon. He's happy. That's what he wants to do. So those people are off the table. If someone's going to Globo Gym. Was that impressive? Was that a good time? I have no idea.

It's pretty fast. I think that's a really good insight. I think a lot of people, including myself, have thought about, like, how do we get those people? That's an untapped market. Like, when I first started my gym, I was like, man, we really need to go after those people because they're competitive. And they're not the physical stuff either, but they're also in it for the solitude and restoration that the road provides them. The zen of the running. They want the repetition.

They want the isolation. But for everybody like that, and I know this coming from a... James is just fed up and leaving now. He's like, ah, fuck this guy. Fuck this answer. I've always hated him. He's pulling a Doug. Hey, bring a flashlight.

Here's what I think. There are tons of unsatisfied people because I know them. The people that go, gosh, we were talking about it earlier. I've done everything I possibly can to lose weight. How do you stay so small? Or I've had guys ask me, you know, in this crowd, I'm a weak little guy. I'm trying to throw it out the window, Mike, just please help me work with that. But I'm the smaller, weaker guy, but I'm really not that weak for a guy my size and age. And guys outside of crossfit will go oh man i can't believe you can deadlift whatever i can deadlift what can you and i i can deadlift 375 before i started

before i started this weight gain thing so that's a good deadlift yeah it's not bad it's over double body weight yeah two two and a half that was always my well it's not two and a half anymore someone's gonna someone trey from chattanooga will text back in. That's not two and a half. But either way, those people, I think, are the targets to say, look, you go to the global gym all the time, right? Yeah, I do. I go five times a week, whatever it is. Great.

Are you, how long have you gone? Oh, I've gone for years. Awesome. Are you happy with the results? Do you like the way you look when you take your shirt off are you not really do you feel strong are you has anything changed on any level ever during that time yeah and then i'm like come work i had these guys that were coming to my backyard i have a i have a backyard gym i have a backyard i i took the dimensions off

rogues website and had a caster rig built in my backyard uh which is awesome so suddenly uh my some of my neighbors would start coming over and saying what are you doing back there dude and then someone would come over and start working out robbie yeah it's like i'm doing back there this is what i'm doing yeah i don't have time to talk to you i'm a damn ninja yeah watch me in the rings that uh my my mother saw me doing a little video on the rings of something that is really not all that difficult but immediately you know it's that phone call you really need to put a big mat underneath you you're gonna get you're not as young as you once were safety first yeah tell them the story about your mom and she

saw a picture of you with the... Dude, when I first got into CrossFit, this is awesome. The place I started, and now all these places, you know, they take pictures of you or whatever. So when I very first started, which actually is two years to the day tomorrow, I went and I couldn't barely run 400 meters. You know, literally, I'd get to the post. It was the turnaround. I'd stop, and I'd say, I'm going to count to five. Were you a cyclist before CrossFit?

Not directly before. I was. I was a serious cyclist for many years, and then I was a serious, I think we alluded to the fact that I was a serious drinker for several years. So then I wanted to get back into it. So does drinking affect your fitness? I'm confused.

It did. It did. It did. Oddly enough, I wasn't fit. I was a very good drinker, though. Alcoholism doesn't support fitness. It did not seem that way based on where I was at March 7, 2010. I don't have all the data, but I'm pretty sure. Do you have science behind that?

I don't believe anything unless there's research yeah devil blind if you drink enough whiskey you are double blind so anyway i was in terrible shape so after a while i said i'm gonna go to i'm gonna do a hundred workouts before i quit this thing because i'm i hate myself and i'd go and you do a hundred work oh before you quit cross before i quit cross not consecutively no no no okay like i went i'd have to do i'd have to go start with angie then i'm gonna do what's the other ones cindy and i'm gonna do no right through the alphabet right i'll tell you about what my first my first wad was i came back from running this uh the 400 was part of a warm-up then then you came back and and it was uh you had to do uh heavy thrusters for me that was 75 pounds that day is what they said

that's what you should do you had to do 50 thrusters and every minute you had to stop and do five burpees okay now just the other day crossfitters out there i did 120 burpees i was so excited uh so i'm not bad at burpees now that day i got to the point where i could i could i was having problems in the minute doing the five burpees. And at 25 minutes, I'd done 43 thrusters. And they said, okay, it's time to stop. So that's where I started. And after a little while, the story Chris wants me to tell, which was funny or CTP,

they take some pictures. And I had gone in one day and this guy that was there, whatever, we're like, we'll do this workout with a weight vest on. So this guy got a really cool picture of me. and I've got this kettlebell over my head. I've got a weight vest on. I've got a vein in my arm, you can see. And I'm like, man, I got this look on my face. I'm like, damn, that's awesome.

Well, in the background, they have an American flag hanging. So I take this picture, and I kind of crop it down, and I put it on my Facebook, because that's what you do. And I'm like, dude, I'm fucking just a kick-ass motherfucker. I got five likes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And three D friends. I think this is before Facebook. Two of them are chicks. So, yeah.

So my brother shows it to my parents and my mom calls me. And I'm not thinking like she has no idea. You know, she's like plays tennis and this is Robbie she's like I just know she doesn't know what it is she's like I see this I saw Michael showed me this picture that's my brother you know when you're standing there there's the American flag and it's that is that like a bomb vest and what you could well she's not the first person to confuse a weight vest with a bomb device.

Yeah. So I had this super deflating moment where mom calls and I'm like, oh, you saw the picture. Pretty badass, right? And she's like, are you a terrorist now? What became of you? Have you joined some sort of militia? I'm the terrorist that goes over there and bombs them. Well, she's like, what is this CrossFit?

I just, I don't know i just need to understand what you're doing i'm like oh god that's why people think it's a cult it is right there there it is uh so so what did you tell her was was everything okay did she get it now she she kind of gets it now uh not she's like why do you do that? Why don't you find a nice girl? Make that your hobby. Yeah, yeah. I think we hit half of Trey's question.

Well, the thing with the Globo... There was a question? Where the hell is Doug? Trey, we're going to retract. For the next few episodes, you're going to find that we can track. The Globo guy needs results, and when you expose retrack. So for the next episode, you're going to find that we can track. Look, the global guy needs results, and when

you expose the opportunity for him to get results, and he starts seeing them, then it's pretty easy to hook him. Yeah.

But then there's the issue of how do you communicate what can be offered to the average female? Look, guys and girls...

It's a basket case when it comes to issues of muscle lifting. They're all terrified of getting away. But men and

women, and I know this professionally because I work with all women. You have keen insights into the female mind. Maybe I do. Tell us what you know. Tell me everything. The thing is, not all, but most women, they don't want to be ninjas. They don't want to be special. All the things that guys, you know, when you're like, Navy SEALs do this. They want to be jacked. They don't want to be special. All the things that guys, you know, when you're like Navy SEALs do this.

They don't want to be jacked. Yeah. Women don't want to hear any of that. They want to have fun. They want to be encouraged. Girls just want to have fun. Well, they want to see results. They want cute shoes and CrossFit socks that match the shoes.

Is that part of culturally? No offense. What's that say about CTP? CTP loves the socks, which they're pretty stylish. I like them. You got flavor, son. I just think a lot of people

approach women wrong. And instead of, you know, you get some jacked up guy who goes, you shouldn't care whether you get big or not, you know strong sexy they don't fucking want to hear that and it's not necessarily true uh if they want it some of

these people men included hey i've got four hours a week and i want to do something other than sit on my ass so you can confront them and say well you're not doing enough and man you're doug and i actually if you were here had this conversation the other day. Oh man, you're, you know, your squat isn't, isn't perfectly below parallel. You know, your knees aren't wide enough. You're this, you're that. Would you rather have the dude at a CrossFit gym trying to, you know, make the most of what he's doing, have fun doing it, get the constant variation, you know, as opposed to just wandering around a Globo gym or doing nothing? My answer is yes. If he's not picture perfect, that's okay. You can work on it. A lot of these women that

come into the same way, I've got three or four hours a week to give to this and I don't want to be, uh, the next CrossFit Games competitor. I don't want to be Annie Thor's daughter and that's nothing against Annie. Sure. It's just, Hey, this is fitness for me and i'm not going to go home and eat a bunch so that i can rack jerk more so so how do you get those women to actually even come in and try it out what i think they'll come in three bullet point pitch my thing is uh get them to come in uh how do you do that yeah why why what if if i why? If I'm a potential female appliance. Yeah, let's do this. Let's do this.

Okay. Let's role play. James, you're an overweight young woman, and you're tired of the Globo Gym, and James is the purveyor of CrossFit Chickasaw, and you've come in. Hey, I'm James. Maybe you should do this, Chris.

You're doing pretty good. Didn't I talk to you at 1-900? I recognize this voice. I just want to get toned. I mean, I would come. Look, we have classes. Come. No.

Look, I would come. We have classes seven days a week at CrossFit're Japan. At CrossFit Chickasaw. So come, what day can you come? What days do you normally work out? I just like to walk on the treadmill. Okay, well what day do you walk on the treadmill? Whatever. I'll do this, James.

Yeah, go ahead. You're such a bad faux woman. Sort of like, you know woman maybe like Sunday or Wednesday Sunday's awesome we have a class at 1 o'clock we have an open gym at noon I can't do one, I have class on Sunday?

no I'm getting my nails done what am I going to do? let's just find an hour that you want to come where your athletic stuff, you know, your athletic stuff, you don't have to worry about bringing anything else. Okay, so you got the

time locked down. What next? Or is that half the battle? When they come to the gym, all I want to do is some fun stuff. And I do it with a guy, too. But a guy, I might have a little bit less clothing. The key is you don't want to do anything that...

Okay, you give them the gym. The first exposure to whatever you're going to prescribe, don't make it anything that will be humiliating or humbling. Don't show them how... Or something that's so obscene. What I don't want to do is pull out an 88-pound kettlebell and show them how I can kettlebell snatch in both arms. Yeah.

Rip your shirt off. I'll say that the first thing that women don't care about is what you can do. Or they don't even give a shit about your background or what you know. Okay. And another thing that I say to teenagers in the audience a lot of years, no one gives a shit what you bench. Girls don't care. Hey, you want to know how many pull-ups I can do?

A lot. And I don't want to overgeneralize, there are a lot of women that have a strong fitness background that know more about this kind of stuff than I do. Those people I'd approach differently, but we're talking about your average gym goer. Stereotypical, yeah. I'd want them to come in. I'd get some sense of what their background is.

At some point in their life, maybe, they've run, they've tried life, maybe, they've run. They've tried a triathlon. They did gymnastics. Even if it was when, hey, when I was eight, I went and did, okay. So now I've got something that you're a little bit comfortable with. So let's create a short little warm-up that might involve something that's gymnastic that makes you comfortable to go, look, CrossFit isn't about heavy kettlebells and rack jerks and whatever that these people bring

up and it's not just for navy seals it's hey this can be fun you know let's pull down a pair of rings and we'll do some skin the cats um and hopefully they're like that was fun i can do that you know and then you kind of go from there i think if you immediately say that's not a clean you know pick that bar back up you know yeah warm inviting have them have a good time absolutely excited to come back and try something else maybe a little bit harder a little bit more interesting next time around yeah well pretty soon they get hooked to the that sensation and they start slowly assimilating it into their lifestyle and that's when you actually make some sort of big change i know for uh for our gym uh the fundamentals class which you guys have created it's uh it's way different than when i first joined and yeah it's all about fun ctp does a great job at you know getting people excited and having a good time and and all that ctp who's a crossfit level

one certified yes he is yes he is look at this guy. Which he, I think he aced the exam or something like that. Really? I think so. He's a smart guy. Oh, big arms. I just messed up. That's what happens when you study at Faction. Under the tutelage of Michael Bledsoe.

Well, not only that. Not only that, Chris attended a course we had for prepping coaches for and he also has a degree in exercise physiology exercise sports science yeah there you go um and to pay a compliment and not to overly indulge chris voice here one thing he does that i think is good is he's he's a real person he's very accessible i think those people tend to be a better um entryway for new people that aren't super fit you know you get someone that has uh some athleticism some fitness already they come in and maybe they what really would help them want to do crossfit is let me pick the

biggest strongest fastest moose in the gym and they go oh dude okay i want to i want to come in and work out for regular people, Chris is very accessible. He seems like a normal guy and you're like, yeah, he's pretty fit. Okay, well, he's in here doing this. So this isn't just for whatever, you know, ninjas and whatever else. And he's also not, you know, cut out of stone like some of these really big guys because I'd see those guys and be like, oh, you know, I don't know that I'm ever going to get there what are you saying about chris are you saying he's not

well but also when he works out he can he can do a lot of stuff so it's like hey i i don't necessarily have to be you know lou farigna not cut out of stone chris you need to uh you need to start eating like like popcorn and spray start eating like a a man. Try it. It's delicious. Except I put ketchup on my popcorn. You put ketchup on popcorn? The ketchup with the high-frit

popcorn. That's a whole other podcast right there, son. I love that stuff. No, but I agree. Just to jump in here real quick, I think what you

basically just said about me can be applied to how CrossFit as HQ, as headquarters, as they market in their commercials and stuff. I think they're really missing the ball on, it's great that you have these games athletes and you have these people who are awesome. But to me anyway, the beauty of

CrossFit is what you're saying like, oh shit, check this uh old um you know not super athletic looking from the front end and there he is snatching some awesome weight or doing something really cool and i think that they kind of miss yeah it has a little bit there's a commercial of a little bit of an elitist extreme well the one where they're gonna go train at the top of the empire state building because it doesn't matter where you train you can you train. You can work out anywhere. Just so long as you have all this equipment. Right. And Reebok zigzags.

And muscles like Rich. Yeah. All right. I got another question for him. Actually, before we do that, I think the producer, CTP, is telling us we need to take a short break.

Shut down. Let's take a break. Yep. Break is all. Take it up. Am I getting paid for a break uh yeah reebok's sponsoring that reebok's sponsoring the break our batteries break out we need to um i don't know about this did you say cutoffdafi? This is mine.

Qaddafi! Did you watch Tosh.0? What you do is you take an object and you shove it up your friend's ass and as you shove it up your friend's ass you have to scream Qaddafi. What? It's called the Qaddafi.

QADDAFI! So he had like a shload of people submit videos of them doing that. He did the ball slap, slap, pie. Yeah. Yeah, like pie, ball slap. Hit him in the face with a pie, slap him in the face, punch him in the face. We need our sleep. Yeah, I need mine.

I'm doing 12.3 Thursday morning. I'm nervous about it because no one knows what it is. Serious athletes getting 54 reps on 12.2? Hey, I got 60 reps. 2012. So like last year it was 11.1 to 3. I'm worried about the time.

Oh, 12.1. Give us your 12.1. Blah, blah, blah. Jamie, do you have a certain female that you must attend to this evening or something? No. Can you describe to what that would mean if he did have to attend to her? Be descriptive.

What are you implying? What's in my mind or what's in his mind? Can we talk about this on the podcast? Live vicariously through James. James tell us a little bit about yourself man that's good uh although at some point okay so i got more questions okay okay at some point uh we need to talk about the arnold just you know a little bit about the sights

and sounds and what happened and whatnot so i was not at the arnold we were at the arnold and we're going to tell you because it was it was. We'll cover these questions real quick, okay? Are we recording? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, hello. Welcome back. It's back from the break.

Barbell Shrugged. Go for it, Chris. Episode, welcome back to Barbell Shrugged. We don't even know what episode we're on anymore. Episode 12-teen.

All right, I'm Mike Bledsoe. 12.5. Mike Bledsoe here with Chris Moore, James Chaney and Robbie Froman we're going to get back to a few questions that were submitted via the Twitters

again let's see what question we got now Vaughn asked some questions on Facebook I don't really watch this show because I've got better things to do is there like a speed round is there a speed round or anything on Facebook. I don't really watch this show because I've got better things to do. Is there like a speed round? Is there a speed round?

No speed round. No gimmicks. There's no gimmicks on the show? Just bros hanging out, man. That's what it is. I'm sorry. What is the best model for eating paleo on a limited budget when items such as Grouse and Beef is a little out of college kids' price range?

Super easy, I think um i mean i i you don't think so no i won't hear it i bet i i think uh fruits and vegetables and nuts really aren't all that expensive especially if you shop around you got an easy way yeah oh easy way is fantastic wherever you're at in the world a local farmer's market is probably pretty reasonable yeah and you can get a tremendous amount of quantity and when it comes to fish or meat I think if you look around

you might not be able to afford grass fed beef maybe you can find a resource that is more affordable depending on what city you live in this is what I find, Whole Foods it's only a dollar more a pound for grass fed beef that is more affordable depending on what city you live in. This is what I find. Whole Foods. Yeah. It's only a dollar more a pound for grass-fed beef.

I was just going to say, if you're feeding a family of five and you want to eat fillets every night, you've got an issue. See, you know, I love Whole Foods, but every time I walk in there, it just feels expensive, you know? It's like, well, you're just a cheap bastard. You're either not rich enough or you're not hippie enough to be in there. That's the problem. Go without a few showers and go back in there. I might fit right in.

Make sure to be barefoot. No, I agree. I think fresh greens are almost free. They grow like weeds. There's grass everywhere. People mow their lawns all the time. If you want to get down to it,

you can just plant kale in your backyard and it'll grow like weed. Yeah, it will. But, you know, of the seeds, maybe you can't afford the highest quality nuts or seeds,

but there's all kinds of seeds that are plenty reasonable. Nut butters are pretty reasonable. Well, honestly, unless you're trying to gain weight, it's not that necessary to be eating a lot of nuts. There should be enough fat in your meat. Plus, plus, I mean, even every college kid probably still carves out X bucks every Thursday or Friday night to go drink some beers and hang out and buy a pizza. You're spending money somewhere.

You take some money somewhere. You take some of that. I don't know how many times I've had college students be like, oh, I can't afford CrossFit fees. But I met them at the bar. And they were drinking. Besides trade. This brings up an interesting point.

How many college-aged people? It doesn't seem like a very big market for CrossFit. Your gym will be really close to University of Memphis. Yeah, my honest feeling about college kids. Are you going to be targeting college kids at all? Most of them don't care about that. They care about doing some bicep curls before a spin break and how much their bench is, most of them. I was going to say maybe it will change,

but I think kids in college are either partying. Well, one, you have serious collegiate athletes. They're playing a sport. They're doing – That's a different thing. Yeah, all their training is revolving around that. Then you have some recreational, you know, maybe they play a club sport or whatever, you know, they love tennis.

They're taking something that they were doing in high school that they're not pursuing at a college level, and they're doing that. Or they're partying like crazy. And right now I just don't feel like that's the CrossFit person. My experience with CrossFit is more you get kind of ex-athletes that get really turned on at CrossFit because they used to be competitive and they like this. I can go in and, man, I got James on 12.2.

Dun, dun, dun. Just wait until 12.3. Damn it. But, you know, it's friendly competition against people. You kind of get that outlet. You get people that are in terrible shape, and they love CrossFit because what we were talking about on the break was if you give it six weeks to six months, they will see changes.

So you get these out of shape people, regardless of their background, that see this big change. Did anyone else see that picture of... Richard. Yeah, of Richard, a member at our gym. Tell our audience who Richard is. Tell our audience who Richard is?

I don't know who Richard is. I'm your audience here, too. Della? Della and Richard? Yeah, man. I know who richard is i'm i'm your audience here too della dell and richard yeah i mean i i know who he is but like what do you want me to say about it i know that guy oh yeah yeah yeah so he's old i don't know how old he is but he's got to be in his okay okay we got it is he like mid-50s maybe so yeah something like that he has a little gray hair beard yeah anyway but he could be describing me.

He posted on Facebook, he posted a photo. It was like a three-photo progression of shirt off kind of a thing, like you see in the muscle mags. But dang, it was crazy for a guy in his mid-50s who's got serious definition and muscle. He's the kind of guy that's dedicated. You say, hey, try this out, and he'll do it. Like, hey, why don't you eat paleo for two weeks?

He can do it. And he'll do it. Yeah. Anyway, so it's attractive because people, they get results. It takes a little bit of maturity to see the value in that lifestyle. I don't see a lot of college kids embracing CrossFit. So you don't see them embracing the paleo nutrition standard here? I think it's hard.

The other thing with college kids and saying I can't afford it. It's no harder than anywhere else. James and I were both in college when we started CrossFit. Yeah, that's true. I don't know this, but I feel like most of the people I know who CrossFit are not in college, and I have not seen, like, a lot of boxes that are like, hey, we're CrossFit roads or, you know, it's a college here in Memphis, or something, and it's all students.

And that's not to say that students don't do it, but it seems to me right now. They're harder to come by. Yeah, they're a little harder to come by. Yeah, it's more about, more like a 30-year-old type. There seem to be a lot of 20s, 30s. Well, why pay a membership at a CrossFit

box when you've got the university gym when you can do bicep curls and bench press? That's all the chicks care about anyway. I don't know about anyone else. When I was 20, if I wanted to go get rid of some athletic competitiveness, I mean, you can go play basketball.

You can play baseball. You can play soccer. There are all these things going on. And you don't look that bad yet. When you're 20, even when you're out of shape and you're like, man, I'm getting a little fat, it's not that bad. You're still young. Yeah, you put 10 years on that, and suddenly you're like,

I look like fat Elvis. No one will have sex with me. Is Elvis. No one will have sex with me. Is that why no one will have sex with me? That's why I started prostrating. I couldn't get laid. Wow. Wow. So we have any questions from Vaughn?

Yeah. Vaughn was asking about, let me just pull it up here. Way to not be prepared. This guy's got a fucking password on his iPhone. Don't let anyone get a hold of it here we go here we go uh vaughn asks he says what about advice on convincing people to lay off the grains people who are interested in your crossfit gym but spend hours doing cardio and think they need grains the endurance athlete and i this is this is yeah that's your typical endurance athlete yeah lots of and I think it's an easy race. Most people don't – they don't know the difference. So you kind of have to get into a challenge mode of like, hey, let's talk about how much grain you're actually eating.

And then – because some people it's not really that much. But other people are like, hey, I eat pasta 64 times a week, yada, yada. I mean it's crazy. Some people at every meal are eating bread, pasta. Or they do the microwave spaghetti meals, like the smart choice microwave spaghetti with meatball sauce. They sit at their desk. The ready-made lasagna. Yeah.

And it tastes good. Let me tell you, I miss a good lasagna. Sure. But I always confront those people and just say, look, give it a couple weeks. What about the endurance athlete that thinks they need those extra carbs? I would tell you that I was a very – One, stopping an endurance athlete. Two –

I would define what those people are actually doing, and I would explain to them that probably, unless they're routinely training for more than 90 consecutive minutes a day, so if you're a runner, if you're running, I don't know, 14 miles a day or more, or if you're a cyclist and you're you're doing for stage eight of the tour de france well if you're at stage eight of the tour de france yeah you need an unbelievable amount of calories but they're not it's the same thing it's it's it's the same mentality people have and they go i saw rich froning and he said it was his eighth workout

well you don't do that so let's forget about rich let's forget about what lance armstrong does in the tour de france um one thing too, is if you're doing super long, well, you might need to do some glycogen replenishment after you train, super high intensity for a decent duration. But most of these people aren't doing super high intensity work. A lot of it is probably mimicking. They see, I saw Lance Armstrong eats five bowls of pasta. Look how good he is.

So I gotta eat pasta. The same reason why some guy who's riding a bike around your neighborhood is wearing a fucking competitive bike outfit. Yeah. Like, what are you doing?

Why are you wearing a shiny shirt on Saturday afternoon? Well, aerodynamics. Aerodynamics. You're denying capitalism because Lance Armstrong

is wearing this stuff because someone pays him to do it so they can sell it to mooks like you and me the same way that we talk about these CrossFit superstars. I mean, you have on a Reebok shirt because Reebok has all the stuff and they want me to buy some. It was also given to us at the regional.

Oh, yeah, I'm not. James is a proud athlete. I'm a regional athlete. You are not a tool. I had to throw that out there, didn't I? Everyone else is except me. Maybe you don't know this, but we kind of work for Reebok now. I'm a regional athlete. You are not a tool. I had to throw that out there, didn't I? Everyone else is except me. Well, maybe you don't know this, but we can have word for Reebok now.

Oh, man. Let's keep that on the DL. I just think you show these people they're really not doing the volume that's necessary, and then you give them some alternatives, and you probably offer them a little bit of reading advice. You know what? I think the person that Vaughn is referring to is somebody who has it in their mind the paradigm of fitness. What they think is, oh, I want to get in shape. What am I going to do?

I'm going to run. This actually didn't really exist until, I want to say, like the mid-70s. Running as a sport. Yeah, Nike invented the running shoe. It could be jogging. I'm not sure. I'm going for a jog. But yeah, it was a campaign they did.

They invented the sport of running or jogging for recreation and health and fitness. And I think a lot of people still think, oh, if I want to get in shape, I should go run. It's a damn effective marketing strategy. And honestly, I don't disagree. If you want to be in shape, I should go run. It's a damn effective marketing strategy. And honestly, I don't disagree. If you want to be in shape, you should run a little bit.

A little bit? There's lots of other things to do. Should I run five to ten miles four times a week? Look, here's what I say. Did you go to college? You did. Okay. What did you major in?

I was a finance major. I don't know. Whatever the hell they tell me. Okay, great. So you only took finance courses? Oh, no. I mean no i mean i went to you know everyone gets puffed up i went to the university of wherever and then they no we took history we it was very hard to get into the business school at xyz university i had to take all these hard classes and all these weird topics so you had to dabble yeah so you had to learn a lot of different things to challenge yourself to make you a better financier.

Well, of course. It's very hard. Well, fitness is very hard. Let's get the light bulb to go off over your head. Running is one dimension, and it's something you should try. If you can't run at all, that's an issue. But you shouldn't be a one-trick pony. No.

You need to try lots of other stuff. Unless, of course, your only true passion is running, in which case you should really have a big running bias. Or squatting 1,000 pounds. Yeah. I mean, shit. Squatting 1,000 pounds is a huge deal. I never quite got there. It's awesome.

I got to 975. I mean, shit. It was not a 1,000-pound squat. I didn't do it. I'd never got there. I squatted 975 pounds today, too. One little pound or two. But yeah, I still think a lot of people have this idea in their head,

and it's going to take time for that to shift. If I want to be in a shift, I need to run. Here's the other thing is if you really have an aggressive person, and this doesn't always work, but you can get – and this is a Greg Glassman thing. You can get into this deal. Okay, you're a great runner. Well, let's go run. Okay, let's run a 5K tomorrow. always work but uh you can get and this is a greg glassman thing you can get into this deal okay you know you're a great runner let's go run okay let's run a 5k tomorrow hopefully dude is not you

know running a 16 minute 5k but if he or she is well then they're a pretty good runner and maybe leave him alone but otherwise you go you know you might be a little bit faster than i am in a 5k i think you took a minute out of me there you know now, now let's go lift. Let's go do some box jumps. Let's go row a little bit. I mean, pick your poison. Uh, and you,

then you kind of confront those people. Like here's some alternative things, you know, maybe you can do, cause I can almost run as fast as you can, but I can also, you know, do all these other cool things.

I can also deadlift 400 pounds. Yeah. So what's the other question? Uh, he was talking about um let me see here what kind of program would you put a teenage athlete on regular crossfit classes or a strength program in the off season what about a five-year-old a five-year-old five year old go out and play yeah here's a ball max effort good morning with a five-year-old actually

when i have when when bledsoe has little blledsoes running around, what are you going to be putting on? When there's a five-year-old Bledsoe running around naked... I will be locking my doors. I will probably have them enrolled in gymnastics class, actually. I could see them being swimming in gymnastics, and that's probably what they'll be doing. Light swimming. Let me tell you something, okay? When I was trying to get better at swimming,

and I would go to the pool, and I would see the swim team. It was like the university. It was for kids. It's the club team. Yeah, it's the club team. Okay, so these are high school down to middle school, early middle school.

It's like freaking team. Okay. So these are high school down to middle school, early middle school. Yeah. It's like freaking child abuse. Okay. It is unbelievable what these kids do. Now, maybe it's no big deal to them. Okay. You've struck a nerve with me because I was a competitive swimmer from like five years old to 18. And swimming is one of those places that is notorious for, in my opinion, terrible training philosophy and terrible coaching.

Coaches are like, swim until you die. Sure. There's a shit happening in the swimming community. Some of the smarter people out there, and I think there has been for a while. And by the time I have a kid at five years old, I think that the world will be a different place. You're optimistic. Well, I can coach swimming, so there you go. No, I just think that's one of those.

Stupid sport, I can master it like that. I used to be a swimmer too. You're lying. Were you athletic? Because you really don't look athletic to me. You don't have to be athletic to be a swimmer first off. You have a pool here. I want to go swim off.

I knew a shit load of swimmers. You got them out of the water and they could barely walk yeah they were efficient that's why they're not allowed to run on the pool deck don't fucking fall on their face yeah yeah it's true swimming is all about efficiency anyway you know about being lazy in the water that's how you be fast so i mean running's all about efficiency too it's not about who can run harder i would say anything i'd say crossfit would the whole open thing that's amazing to me is these people you know want to do they they want to do burpees hard and i'm like no i i was

visiting a box and there's some great people there yeah i was like take your time you know what do you think you're gonna do 35 burpees a minute for seven minutes? If I said let's run a 5K, would you run out the door at your 100-meter dash pace? Yeah, absolutely not. And they go, no, of course not. I'm not an idiot. Same thing goes if you're doing a rep bench test for your high school football. Oh, yeah. I always said do each one as lazy as possible.

You've got to close your eyes. I do. I did. I got that advice from you. Wait, I don't do bench press tests. But anyways, go ahead. Close your eyes and do each rep as lazily as possible. And you could probably add ten reps to your max.

In bike racing, which is my background, you do these long events for hours sometimes. And the conversation that you would have with your teammates is like, when do we want to start racing? This is going going to take four hours we're not racing for four hours you know we want to race you have highs and lows well no not even that we want to race the last 30 k's of this race so you know i don't know how long that is it's it's an hour look 45 minutes okay so in between you know zero and 30 k's to go we're going to do as little as possible to to get to that point because you're not gonna start you know it's like the peewee herman movie you know where he's riding super fast uh that's not the way it works it's like how little energy can you do so that

four hours from now i have way more energy than you do if you own the tank yeah i mean i guarantee you that there are tons of club racers in amer that could take Lance Armstrong to the cleaners, you know, in the first five kilometers of lots of things. But he's got the long view. Dude, what that guy can do after five hours, after five days, is like a difference. Not off the drugs he can't. Well, he didn't take drugs.

What's wrong with drugs? I've got a bridge to sell you. It's about to go somewhere. What was the rest of the question? So he was asking, yeah, a teenager, five-year-old. I think teenagers should be playing sports. I mean, if you're a teenage kid, if you're not at risk. So if you're a teenage kid and you've got

an obesity problem... What? Okay. If you have an obesity problem... Which is like 75% of all... It's a lot. It's more than it usually is. I've got an opinion about it too. I think that you should be playing different sports and having

fun until you're probably 16, 17 years old, and then you can start thinking about training unless you're one of those few truly gifted kids that you come across and go, wow, there's a kid that graduated from a high school. When he was a freshman, he ran a sub 15 minute 5K. It's pretty quick. Yeah. And you kind of go, okay, he's 14 years old.

Yeah. Maybe we should, you know, like really challenge of go okay he's 14 years old yeah maybe we should you know like really challenge this guy because he's unusual for everyone else that's just my opinion my here's my opinion on this is that most coaches of sports you know football coaches baseball coaches swim coaches whatever um they all they're all very focused on just that sport and they never worry about the general physical preparedness or the general physical fitness of the individual athlete. They get very specialized, right?

So every time you go to practice, you're practicing just that sport. And then the parent who wants their kid to go play in college, right, they take their kid to a personal trainer or something like that and say, hey, I want you to train my kid to be a baseball player. And so what the parent wants to hear is I'm going to build this super awesome baseball specific strength specific baseball program for your kid. And instead of just telling them what they want to hear and giving them what they need what they do is they tell them what they want to hear and then they deliver on what they wanted to hear too so what ends up happening is you got a personal trainer having this kid who

is out of shape doing sport specific strength training all right which makes no sense to me does it make does that make sense to you no okay yes to you? No. He's saying it's a bad idea. All that noise you're hearing, that is Chris fiddling with Robbie's Well, what happened is Robbie has been sitting down for so long, he finally decided My hips are just locked up. And now we've come closer.

That's exactly right. And then what ends up happening is these kids get this sports-specific training that doesn't get them in any more shape. Your microphone just went flaccid. All right. It doesn't get them in any more shape. It's listening to you. And what ends up happening is they see a 10% increase on their,

they see a 10% increase in their – they see a 10% increase on their – in their sport not from increased athleticism. When they really should be doing is trying to increase their GPP, the general physical preparedness strength training and stuff like that is to make you a better athlete. Not to make you a better football player, not a better baseball player, not a better swimmer, not a better fighter. It's to make you more athletic. And what ends up happening when they do this sports-specific training, I don't know how many. Well, I could name, I could probably think of the number. I'm running into so many high school kids that come in. They're not in good shape.

They've been getting the sports-specific training. And then once you start getting them in any kind of shape whatsoever, they skyrocket in their sport. They do really, really well. Because you have increased their athleticism? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, they're just better athletes. And they've never been taught how to be a better athlete.

They've only begun these personal trainers that find these sports-specific whatever. I think a lot of that's cultural where they go, little Billy's going to be a baseball player, and then he gets immersed in baseball and baseball and baseball. And that becomes, you've got this. It's really the parents' fault because they're pushing the trainers and coaches. And the coaches are going, well, that's the market. That's what I'll do.

You've got these kids running these silly little things over at, I won't name the gym, where they do speed and agility. And we even had guys, I've had a couple guys that were in the NFL, this specific gym shut down. It's a franchise. Shut down our area, and he was wanting to see if we do speed and agility at our place. Well, yeah, we do speed and agility,

but we also squat and do cleans. And he was like, oh, well, I'm here for speed and agility, not to get stronger. I'm like, why are you playing the NFL? I'm sorry. The thing that's dumbfounding to me is that, you know, any of these games that are sports that are fun and valid activities, but they're really narrow bands of what the human body can do.

And anybody that thinks simply pursuing this little narrow band over time is going to yield a great physical specimen is crazy. And also, if you think the best way to be a good baseball player is just to play baseball, I mean, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense to me. You need to experience different things. Billy needs to be doing more than just playing baseball. Unless, of course, he's one of those really unique kids that's just a hell of a baseball player,

and then you can focus on it more. Who was it this past year who won the World Series? I don't know. Some of the best sleep I've ever had. St. Louis, Chris, who's the pitcher? He does cross in the offseason. He started a few years ago. He pretty much won the pitchers for the World Series.

Is this Coffey's friend? Yeah. I think if you look at it. He throws the ball, and the guys try to hit it with a bat, and they can't. He throws fast. If you look at top athletes in any sport, we were talking about Lance Armstrong. You can talk about baseball players, NFL players. Those guys do a ton of extra work that isn't just hey this is football this is fitness i think well

that's why they have an off season yeah in which they're pursuing all those other things and this is where well go ahead no i mean yeah that's it uh okay here's another sport that's way off the mark is surfing okay laird hamilton arguably one of the greatest surfers that has ever lived. He's a very, very in-shape guy. Who would argue that point? He's a big dude. Well, because he has never competed. He has never professionally competed in surfing. He pursues big waves as his own passion and as an art form and whatever.

But anyway, he trains pretty hard. I mean, in the summertime, in the off season, he's training like crazy. So when the big waves come around in the wintertime, he's, he's prepared for, to go anywhere and to, you know, to meet that when it, when it comes. Yeah. Uh, one, one group of people that kind of interests me is runners who, you know, they, they use running to get in shape, but, and then they start competing and running and treating running like a sport. And running is just like any other sport. You need a strength program, you know, to help fill in the gaps of your fitness.

And what ends up happening is, you know, they think that they're, you know, they're running as their strength program. When if they were to just throw in squats twice a week, they would probably see a huge difference in their times. I think a lot of it's just the way that we market fitness. Unfortunately, CrossFit's a prime example. You can pick running. Everyone looks at the best runner in the world and says,

well, this is what he or she does, and I'm going to follow that program. This is what I see Dan Bailey's doing, so I'm going to do that. I'm like, well. Go live with Rich Froning? Yeah. I've got to go live in Rich's upstairs. Yeah, that's exactly right. If I'm going to be one of the best.

That's exactly right. The best strategy for anybody is to pick the lowest hanging fruit first. So a guy like Rich Froning is at a very, very, very high level. Got a lot of things working in his favor. Has a lot of experience. But if you're starting out, you have to master the things within your reach. So you get

some competency on form, on some basic exercises. And then look, if you can't drag a sled 50 feet, or do a sprint, or do a glute ham raise with good form or do a rope. Yeah. Look, I mean, you don't need to worry about plyometrics or modes of periodization. You need to go from one glute ham raise to doing five sets of 10.

Once you can do five sets of 10 or you can drag a sled or you can do the sprint or you can do that, you get in shape to lift or to compete. Chris Moore wrote an excellent article that actually had a huge impact on me that was in the CrossFit Journal that talked about and I was new

to this, but I read it and what I took away from it was there's lots of complicated periodization. Periodization, I remember that word. Yeah. The P word. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. We read your stuff, Chris. Your work is not in vain. But I did frame it and put it up in the lobby. Well, it is. And I read it. And the thing I took away from that, and I say it all the time now, was that, you know, if you're, if you're making progress and you're seeing gains, uh, you don't have to think too much harder about what you're doing. And that's not to say you shouldn't think about it,

but instead of focusing on how do I create the ultimate, you know, fitness package? Well, if you're doing a pretty good basket of things and you're seeing improvements and gains, keep doing those things until you don't see you're seeing improvements and gains, keep doing those things until you don't see them and then make some changes, you know? Yeah. We talked about this the other day. It was like, find what works and then stop doing it. Yeah.

Well, but to me, it was really encouraging to hear someone that I thought, this guy's in the CrossFit Journal and, you know, he seems like he knows what he's talking about. Yeah. Well, and I was like, and he's basically saying, if you're seeing progress, be happy with that. You're seeing positive adaptation, well, keep doing it. And I was like, wow, at the course of the time, my positive adaptation is like, I can run the whole 400 meters now. It's tiring, but I get back to the garage door, and then I can rest.

But it was encouraging as opposed to like, I need to. So for those of you out there, go to the CrossFit Journal, download the P-Word by Chris Moore. Great article. I couldn't recommend it more.

Are we getting other questions over there? No. You know, what he was asking about for kids and teenagers and whatnot,

I just think the first step is just get off the couch. You know, cancel your cable. I don't know about that. I canceled my DirecTV today. How do you watch Downton Abbey?

How do you watch Downton Abbey? I know that you're a PBS fan. Oh. I mean, if CrossFit... I haven't even thought about PBS in a couple decades. Since Sesame Street. That's a shame, though. It's good programming. Yeah, it's so good that people won't pay to watch it.

If you like what you hear and see, please give us money. Is that how you guys are funded here? Do people make donations? That's my thing. If it's so good, then why do you have to force me to do it? It's like social security. It's ridiculous. Oh, no.

Don't get off your high horse. Please. I'm depending on that. Good luck, buddy. Oh, no. I don't think anyone can save that at this point. No. So any...

Gum and canned food. I got some cat food for you. Canned food. Canned food. Old people eat cat food for you canned food old people eat cat food let's make fun of the old guy here alright so I want to bring up the Arnold Sports Festival because it happened just last weekend

you're trying to exclude me aren't you no no I just want to tell you have you ever been you need to go as an outsider isnold an acronym for something why is it called the arm because of arnold arnold yes you're serious yes yeah look at the picture on james's wall i know you guys i was within like what the arnold is like 10 feet of him i i could say i've shaken his hand twice in the arm there you go when you when it be've shaken his hand twice. There you go. When it be, you shook his hand twice?

Shut up. I have shakenated his hand twice. Man, talk about an entourage. That guy's got an entourage. Dude, they all look like ex-operators, man. Oh, no. They all have

no hair just like you, Robbie. Hey, I used to be one of his guys. And then I stopped drinking. I stopped drinking. I used to think, I think one year, I think Doug, he's like, hey, we're going to the Arnold. I used to think about going. I'm like, why would I want to go to that? It's a really interesting place.

There's a lot of cool sports stuff that happened. The whole reason that I went. It's everything under one roof. Anything and everything. How long have they done the Arnold? 25 years. Scannily clad fitness models everywhere. Everywhere.

Male or female? Both. Oh, no. Yeah, I mean, if you have some interest, it's going to be well represented there. Yeah. I mean, they have. Every fetish represented. Huge, muscular women.

Short, petite women, something in between. Yeah, it's quite a spectacle. They have kids, mixed martial arts. They have gymnastics. So I'm probably going the wrong route here, but as someone that knows nothing about the Arnold, what is the purpose of the Arnold? It's a sports festival where... Celebrating sports.

I'm not even sure what the... I'm not sure... Is it like a trade show or people selling things? That's a portion of it. There's a lot of different aspects of it. You have the expo hall, which is where probably most people go. Vendors, exhibitors.

A lot of supplement companies giving out whatever. Famous MMA athletes, bodybuilders. Pitching something. This is what the chicks are. If you're a sponsored athlete, you're probably in the expo hall behind a booth. Representing your brand. A lot of shitty supplements being...

Which, let me tell you. Mike, how many people were at the Arnold this year? I think it was 175,000. 175,000 people. Purchased tickets ahead of time, I think. So it might have been even more than that. It took us... I went in the expo hall one time.

Don't give away my secret. Which one? About your bicep curls? About where we stay. Oh. Don't put that on there. Why would I tell them about the sweet apartment? No.

No. No. Seriously, you have to edit that out. Because what's going to end up happening is some assholes will start searching for that. They won't know where it is. Okay, anyway. It took like uh over an hour it was like an hour and a half just to physically walk through around and out yeah it was nuts how much does it cost to go in like 15 bucks it's not bad okay no it's it's worth it

now eight hours of fun now yeah that 15 bucks will also get you into the giant crossfit room uh the weightlifting i just walked in um he had a camera and a rogue t-shirt on so i did have i i had a totally legit rig this weekend courtesy of my blood so uh i got to run a nice camera and uh well i'll just say the whole reason that i went that i wanted or i wanted to be there was for a weightlifting. It was the USAW nationals and as well as the Olympic trials for the women. And I'm currently in the process of making a documentary about weightlifting. And so I got a lot of great footage. So fancy. So fancy. I'm so bored. I'm going to check my... It's going to be so good. Everyone's going to want to see it.

Where can I see it? It's not made yet. It's in the process of being made. If you would like to help fund it, there's a link on fitter.tv. For our Kickstarter campaign. You can go on there and donate money to make it happen. Your donation does not just go unnoticed. There are certain levels of donations you'll get something in return.

A mystery something? We don't know what it is. It's listed on the site. So if you donate X amount of dollars, you might get good karma. Wow. Okay, so here's the thing. CrossFit introduced me to the snatch and the clean and jerk robbie is giggling so many things you could you know crossfit introduced me to snatch too which is one of the great things about crossfit it explains a lot it is why many in the weight

lifting community appreciate CrossFit, even though if you go on YouTube and whatnot and look up CrossFit videos, there is tons of people saying terrible things about it because, oh, their form is so terrible, which is true. Most CrossFitters have horrendous technique when it comes to weightlifting, but it's exposing the sport, which is why many weightlifters, many that I talk to, appreciate CrossFit because of that. Now, the thing is that we're in an Olympic year, 2012 Olympics,

Summer Olympics in London. And there's only one athlete, there's only one male that is going to go and represents weightlifting this year. And so my whole idea is to... For the United States. Yeah. One guy is going to compete against himself. In the world.

No, no. For the United States. Mano de mano. It's Donnie, right? It's Donnie. No. Maybe. It could be.

It's not decided yet for the matter. Right. It's Dono, right? Is Dono here? No. Maybe. It could be. Well, it's not decided yet for the matter. Right. It's probably going to be. We have to earn our spot at the Pan Am Championships in May. So we technically don't even have a single spot. We have to finish top 11, I think it is. Yeah, something like that. We have to finish top.

At the Pan Am Games. At the Pan Am Champions. Whoever finishes top. Well, it's not the Pan Am Games. Pan Am top. Well, it's not the Pan Am Games. Pan Am Games is in 2013. This is the Pan Am Championships. Is that right? Well, it's in Guatemala.

The one in Guatemala in May. So the Pan Am Championships for weightlifting. Yeah, if we finish top 11, then we'll get a spot for the Olympics for the men. So as long as our guys just don't totally jack it up, it'll be fine. As of right now, and we're going to send our top-ranked dude, Kendrick Ferris is numero uno, followed by Donnie Shankle, and behind Donnie Shankle is Chad Vaughn. And then after that.

Pretty legit dudes. Well, I mean, they throw over 400 pounds over their head like it's lightweight. But, yeah know it's an amazing sport it's it's fun to watch a lot of fun to watch um and it's got some characters uh i got a lot of footage of john north attitude nation um so you know it's funny because i'm not sure i even liked that guy before this weekend after this weekend i was like i want to hang out with that guy you don't want a freaking golf club after you just do the coolest thing in the world you just I'm not sure I even liked that guy before this weekend. After this weekend, I was like, I want to hang out with that guy. You don't want a freaking golf club after you just do the coolest thing in the world.

You just put freaking massive weight over your head. You don't want... You want... You want freaking WWE. Yeah! That is John North. That's why I always didn't care for weightlifting, really. It seems so, you know, snooty. Too gentleman-y. Well, it's, snooty. Too gentleman-y.

Well, it's like, look, it's a gentleman's sport. I think that's changed a little bit. Loosen up and scream a little bit. Have some fun.

Play some music. Let loose a little bit. I think it's because it's an Olympic sport. I think that's... Who cares? That should be good. I mean,

I'm just explaining why it is the way it is. You know, when he put... James posted a really good video of John North The standard for Olympic sport?

Pretty fucking low. Well, it is now. John, John, basketball is an Olympic sport. Ping pong. Ping pong. Hey, hey, hey. Synchronized swimming

and shit. So John North is up there making a lot of noise but there's somebody a representative from USAW coming over

saying, no, no, you must calm down. He's like, oh, sorry, sorry. Because, you know, they just want to kick him out probably. They just wish he'd go away. saying, no, no, you must calm down. He's like, oh, sorry, sorry. Because they just want to kick him out probably. They just wish he'd go away. But, yeah, I think he's great for the sport.

I mean, he brings a lot of energy. He's super fun to watch, and he's a real nice guy too. So we're in the process of getting some money together. We're hopefully going to be going out to California Strength, filming those guys before the Pan Ams. Maybe next month. Yeah, next month going down to shreveport and um uh getting some good footage ctp is telling us we need to wrap up because

we're uh our batteries are are running low who's doing this do you guys just need new batteries we need everything mike go ahead and plug y'all shit what y'all got hey uh if you start buying stuff off of the website we can afford to buy decent equipment and we can make this go longer. Which is fitter.tv, which is probably where you're watching this. F-I-T-R dot TV. Good job, Chris. That's actually going to be my one of two plugs tonight. So I'm going to go ahead and do my plugs first.

I always let everyone else do theirs, but I'll do mine first. Fitter.tv. That's where you'll find all sorts of interesting stuff. And then also TechniqueWad.com. That is where Doug Larson will be showing you how to be a better human being through movement. Have a great semester. James, any plugs? Yeah, on Fitter.tv, we just started doing a weightlifting documentary blog,

and so I'm going to be updating that as we go forward with this because I think this film needs to be made, and the sports practitioners need to be known because they're amazing, amazing athletes, and they're cool people too. Christopher? Thechrismoreblog.com, and look up that shit on crossfit journal the breed word yeah you share share questions share thoughts and well

yeah he has quite actually I've got articles read them all yeah I've got another one and it seems like a sit down a ride I got another one was sent to them soon so I'm involved with picture of me or my name all right Robbie what's your plug I have two plugs one if you if you yeah if you happen to happen to live in the midtown slash east memphis area and are interested in trying crossfit you should try to cannibalize my business no no just let me finish before i get before i get my ass kicked in the parking lot uh i'm all for capitalism till you take my money motherfucker you should

you should come try it out we're hoping to be open in about four or five weeks I will say though as my home has been at Faction Strength and Conditioning for we're gonna miss you

yeah the past six or seven months these are a great bunch of guys a tremendous amount of knowledge I go way out of my way sometimes several times

a day to go out there and be part of that. And I couldn't recommend it more highly. If you want to try CrossFit, if CrossFit Chickasaw is not convenient to you or just isn't your flavor, I couldn't recommend it enough. If you're coming to the Memphis area and you want to try CrossFit, check out Faction, especially in the afternoons. You will have a great time.

You can plug your own thing you're not gonna make me mad you can plug it a little bit harder than that you want to plug chick crossfit chickasaw uh crossfit chickasaw it's gonna be great uh it's not gonna have a website up yet no website any logos any we're about ninjas and elitism no we don't have any swag we're working on it uh ctp actually gave us a great logo idea that i don't want to spoil yet which we're working on who's your head coach? Wow, we hadn't thought of it. I'm going to say right now I am.

I'm the head coach. Yay, Robbie! Michelle Kinney and Jeff Baxter learned everything they knew about athleticism and sport from me. That's what they told me. They both call me Big Daddy. Why is that? Let me show you the parking lot later. I have no idea who the head coach is going to be.

But whoever he is or she, they're going to be great. I'm sure. We're going to try real hard. We want to be an active participant in the CrossFit community. We're hoping to work well with the other gyms in the area and grow the idea of CrossFit. Community. Yeah, it's a huge thing to us.

We're just excited to kind of bring CrossFit to a new little area in Memphis. I say the more CrossFit gyms, the better. Did you have another plug? For sure. Well, I was plugging Faction 2 because I really do think it's fantastic. Alright, bitches! Y'all have just been shrugged! Peace!