Barbell Shrugged - How Jim Droke Lost 20 Pounds in 16 Weeks in the Diesel Dad Mentorship w/ Jim Droke, Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Coach Travis Mash Barbell Shrugged #624

Episode Date: January 12, 2022

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Right on. Welcome to Barbell Shrug. I'm Anders Varner, Doug Larson, Jim Drope, Diesel Dad Mentorship Savage. We had to bring you on to tell all the people how the last 16 weeks, you lost 20 pounds. You're currently in phase two of this thing is where we get you more jacked, less fat loss, more jacked. But man, when we originally set out on this program, I love your story because if anybody had ever walked up to you and met you and been like, well, what are your fitness goals? They never would have thought like fat loss or what was the thing.

Somehow we sucked 20 pounds off you. What's a little of your background? How did you find the program? I'd love to just give the people kind of a snapshot of what your daily life looks like. Yeah, I really found the program just because I've been following you guys for a while, to be honest with you,

listening to podcasts and tried some different programs. A little bit of background, I guess, before this was started CrossFit about 2015. I needed that just because it wasn't a good place in my life for fitness and already had kids and such. So I think for me, it was just lots and lots of podcasts of listening to you guys for a long time. And this started, I guess I reached out to you guys for a long time and um this started um i guess i reached out to you and there's like in june yeah um maybe may something like i remember the weekend i remember i was at we was camping and um i just had this feeling about me of you know am i really

living the absolute best i can yeah i can go work out i lift heavy weights i got you know have a good time but am i actually doing the best I can? And I couldn't say yes to that. So I thought, you know what, if I can't say yes to it, let me see what else is out there. So through the podcast and seeing different things on social media, you guys posting on this thing of diesel dad, right? What is, what is diesel dad? What's that mean? Right. And, um, a lot of it just really aligned with, you know, the things that I want to focus on that's important to me. And the things that I want to focus on that's important to me and I want to make sure that I'm around for that not only for myself not only for

my kids but man's grandkids right lost my mom and dad unfortunately and it's been one of those things where my kids didn't really have that and it's been different you know really situations a car wreck and then health issues for my dad. But yeah, just looking forward. That's one of the things that's really important for me is am I doing absolutely everything I can to make sure that I'm around? Yeah, that introspection is probably something many people have started their fitness and health conversation, but never really taken the next step to dig into it what what was kind of leading to that question in your life in general I feel like that's a that's a I'm gonna call you mature that's a very mature thing I think it's what is the next 30

years look like I think you you hit it um know, I always viewed myself over the past, probably my adult life since we started having kids. My oldest is 14 now is, you know, like I'm not old. I'm not old. I keep telling myself that every year, but eventually I'm like, you know, at some point I'm going to, I'm going to actually be old. Right. And what does that mean? Um, and I think it just finally, it was a click of where i said again if i'm not doing everything that i can to make sure that i live a long life now like it's going to be the same thing tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day it's just going to keep going so it just really came down to that maturity in my life where i said you know what i've got to make

a decision and now it's the time to do it yeah well So certainly with us, you've been working out, you've been hitting your macros, so to speak, like focusing on nutrition, recovery, sleep, and all that. But did you also make any other changes? You were talking about just living the best life you possibly could. You're making all the tangible kind of normal fitness changes, but did you expand that concept to other areas of your life as well? Yeah, absolutely.

So this to me has been more, more than just about nutrition and working out. Cause I, I, again, I kind of knew that stuff. Um, it, to me, what's really opened up is the, the, some of these even goals, right? And accountability, right? I'm not a big book reader, but I got a lot of time for travel that I listened to, um, audio books. And I asked you guys, I can remember got a lot of time for travel that I listened to audio books. And I asked you guys, I can remember it was one of our first sessions. I asked, hey, what's some ideas, right? And I made a goal then to spend time every single day to listen to something that was either encouraging or motivating or something that was going to really uplift or, you know, open my eyes to other things.

So that's been a big inspiration to this whole thing, right, is that I didn't make just a typical 12 week commitment for nutrition, or, in your guys case, just a 16 week, right? It was something of really what is something long term and what is something that's really sustainable for me. Yeah. Going through the program, did you did you was, uh, I guess, how did you handle kind of the, the overhaul of, of habits and strategies that kind of get implemented into your life? Was it a drastic thing? Was it challenging to kind of get up to speed or were, were you mostly there? No, I think I was, there was some aspects that I had, um, that was already there. And there were some aspects that I really honestly had to change. And we can kind of talk about this later if you want kind of funny. I mean,

for me, it was the, where I work at, we don't have a lot of healthy options. So most of the time I'm bringing my food in, right? But even then it's very easy for me to walk by the snack bar and pick up my, my big thing was the double decker fudge round.

I mean, literally there was some days where I was at least one and counts. Oh gosh, 490 calories. I want one right now. Awesome pace. But, but again,

those were some of the things. Oh my gosh. Doug, I'll split one of those with you bud. Hook it up. I'm not splitting it. But it was, I think it was little things like that, that before I was always justifying, right. I'm not splitting it. I think it was little things like that that before I was always

justifying, right? I can eat that because, man, I'm fixing to go this afternoon. I'm fixing to have just a super intense workout, but then something would happen, and I wouldn't get to go work out, right? Now, I've got all this crap food that I just ate, and then I ended up working late. I get home and I'm tired. And you know, it's just, it's a trickle effect from that. Uh, wait, how was your nutrition coming into it? Were you, was it like a food quality? Were you tracking anything? How did that? Yeah. Yeah. There would be times where I was tracking. Um. I guess probably around 2017 or 18, I did pretty intense tracking macros using some available apps and other things. But on a daily basis, no, I wasn't have a, you know, a great memory. So even for me to remember exactly what I've ate all through the day to try to figure out nighttime, okay, now I've got this food in front of me. What is it that I try to make it fit? So nutrition, I would say, man, maybe most days,

maybe averaging 50-50, but not consistently. And that's where, that's where I really struggled at. Yeah. You talk about like the, the environmental piece, which I think is, you know, if there was like one thing we could really get across in the program, it's, yeah, we want you eating better. Yeah, we want you training in a specific way so that we can, you know, build muscle and get healthy and just become more aware of this stuff. But in order for those things to become sustainable habits and to actually have long-term success, it really becomes bringing an environment around you. How challenging was it recognizing that being at work and being around the Double Fudge

Brownie, I actually know a specific goal that you put in place for a week to eat your lunch outside. Was it challenging recognizing all the places that your environment, you know, deterred you from your goals and then having to write the, write that ecosystem? No, actually that was probably pretty easy, um, to, to determine these are the things I need to stay away from, or these are the areas I need to stay away from of where for me, it was, if I walked through the cafeteria, i know that that double decker fudge rounds that way right so what i do i just don't go to the cafeteria so even whenever

i warm up but you know the lunch that i ate i've got a place in the office i can do that i don't even have to go into that area because that's a temptation for me i'm strong enough now i've built this up to where hey man yeah i can walk by it um i can even pick one up look at it and be like no not gonna happen not going to do it. I think willpower is great, but I think you're on the right track. Putting yourself in a situation where you don't need willpower is always better than having lots of willpower, I feel like. If you can just avoid it altogether where it's just not in your face,

that really is the best strategy. Then it comes natural where it's like, I don't even want this anymore. Especially if you work so hard to make so much progress. Like you don't want to ruin it with, you know, just like eating a bunch of junk. There's no real upside there outside of like, you know, Rogan says it all the time. He says it's like a little bit of mouth pleasure. And then after that, like you got nothing.

There's no long-term benefit. Yeah. you got nothing. There's no long-term benefit. The daily or the weekly habits and integrating into your life, as you started to stack those on top of each other, one in particular, eating your lunch outside one day a week, that actually was like a moment in us building this program where I went, oh shit, this thing works. I was like, that guy has a better idea than I do. We need to listen to the clients much more in this process because at no point did I think maybe someone, maybe eating your lunch outside can have just dramatic effects on just your overall environment. You're getting outside, you're breathing fresh air, you're getting out of the stressors of work, you're probably off your phone

a little bit more. I'd love to just hear kind of like the progressions of how those weekly habits stacked on. And then that literally was a moment where I went, wow, like these people are, they get it. It's so cool. Yeah. Yeah. You know know i'd love to be able to tell you um that every single goal that i said that i'm still doing and because some of it was you know i want to test this out i want to see what impact this has because yeah um just because i'm doing it doesn't mean necessarily that it's it's contributing to what i i want my end result to be um so there's some of them that i'm keeping there's some of them that i'm not keeping i'm trying to do other things right so well you can grow out of the lunch house yeah yeah that's right the lunch outside for me was was the one that i could see the biggest stress at work because i

was not taking time throughout my day to just kind of completely separate and enjoy what was right here in front of me and that was my food right so i i made this you know i'm meal prep this awesome meal and usually i'm sitting in front of my computer screen still working scarfing it down right yeah um so i just wanted to be able to kind of isolate myself on that but yeah there was a lot of goals like that that really you know i wanted to kind of test to see you know is it is it doing me any good is it something that's contributing? Is it challenging? Yeah. A part of this program is every week we craft a new goal, like a new unique goal. We have all the basics of the program.

We call it the big six. We have tracking your weight and hitting your calories and doing your workout, et cetera. But then also every week we let you craft your own unique goal. And people do everything from eat lunch outside like you guys are just talking about to kick the dog out of the bedroom that way i i don't get i don't continuously get woken up etc and most people kind of stick between like three and five extra goals that seems to be a good sweet spot but but you you're what you're a unique in the fact that you have like 20 goals and we rate we rate effort toward those goals every week scale of one to ten how much

effort did you put into to achieving that goal and you know I with many of our clients like they'll be like 10 10 and then it'll be like a five on one of them that they didn't quite get to and then like an eight etc and you having the basically the most goals out of all clients also have basically tens across the board every week it's just blocks of tens like you're putting a hundred percent effort into every goal every week uh in in a way that most other clients can't seem to um just don't seem to do very well like you you're unique in that fact you have a lot of goals and you always have a 10 like how do you accomplish that how do you stay so focused and remember remember all the goals and make sure that none of them slide?

Yeah. Yeah, I think it comes back to, and this is probably some of the business mindset that I have too. But the first thing that's important to me is I make some goal. Especially if I'm starting something new, make it attainable. It doesn't have to be super challenging. But see that, hey, I can set a goal and I can win from it, right? And then maybe the next goal is a little bit more challenging outside my comfort zone. But again, I think it's really important that you've got to set yourself up the first couple

times for success to be able to see that because what's more, you know, it's really not encouraging whenever you set a goal and maybe it's a fantastic goal and it's very challenging, but if you don't hit it, then what's the motivation to kind of do the second one? So, yeah, maybe you do hit some pretty high and then you get something low. I think it's really important to understand, OK, hey, what is it that I need to do to get back on track for that? So, yeah, I think that when you look across my goals that I've got, again, I said all of them are tens because, man, for me, I've got skin in this game. This isn't just something I, you know, I came across the internet and, you know, it's free. And if I don't do it, there's nobody holding me accountable. It's all these other things, quite the opposite of where I had to put skin in the game. I've got somebody that's holding,

you know, that's expecting for me to input on my daily score sheet and somebody that I got to, I'm supposed to be doing a weekly call into that's going to say, Hey, how did you do it? This stuff, right? So for me, it was also very personal as I don't want to go to my coach and say, Hey coach. Yeah. You know what? Yeah. I just didn't really give much effort this week. Like you always went like a one step beyond, like, like I mentioned, tracking your macros, like that's, that's a normal thing for a lot of nutrition programs you're tracking carbs fats and proteins but you you even went the next step and you like specifically tracked your sugar also like in

addition to your carbs you're tracking kind of one more level down just to get all the data you can to make sure that you're you're doing things the way that you're supposed to do them like a lot of people are just trying to get them to just do the basic tracking but you you're, you're like insisting that you track even more stuff. And then there's no run, no wonder that in 16 weeks, you're not, you're not just getting like the promise of 20 pounds. Like you did 25 pounds in 16 weeks. So like your, your results are beyond normal because your performance and your,

your behavior is beyond normal. Yeah. You know, you mentioned like with the sugar, you know, I didn't even set a goal of a target i wanted to hit i just simply said i want to track it and what i noticed even just by tracking it very naturally what do i do my sugar intake on a daily basis when you look at my weekly trend it just started actually going down i wasn't even trying but it was just because of that i guess that self-awareness and seeing hey okay i'm tracking it now tomorrow kind of eat a little bit less than what i ate today right it just keeps revolving like that. Yeah. I was, I was like

that expression, what gets measured gets managed. Like, even if you're not like, if you want to get more sleep, don't do anything except just write down how much sleep you got every single day and look at it. And all of a sudden you'll sleep more. You just kind of will because you're, you're just more aware of what's actually happening. You can clearly see reality and you'll make a change. What was the effect on your performance in the gym? Did your just scores in CrossFit get better? Were you kind of like – how did you feel in workouts? Just a little bit of the performance in the gym side of things.

Yeah, there was definitely days where slumps, you know, when we start making a cut, body's not really used to it, but very quickly my body adapted to that of, um, of, of the lower calories. And with that, obviously the, uh, the body weight starts going down. So especially a lot of the body weight stuff that I've never been really good at the gymnastic type stuff, which I've, I've had, you know, bar muscle ups for a while, but being able to actually string several together and not chicken wing it all the time. Um, just that becomes much, much easier. And I found that my strength, um, especially on some of the lifts really didn't change that much. And, um, maybe if anything was actually able to go up higher just because of

the my training intensity I think was able to go up more so even though yeah I'm following the emom aesthetics and it's not heavily focused on the strength aspect of it but just still being able to hit it with an even higher intensity you know where I'm doing a whole lot of back squat or a whole lot of cleaning jerk but it's at a lower. And then now all of a sudden I go to pick up a bar for a one rep or maybe a five rep. Right. And it's actually, I'm holding or maybe slightly higher than I've been. Yeah. How did this program affect everyone around you?

Now I think your wife was the one that said, I think you need to start being my coach, which first off, let me know. Let me tell you, if your wife is actually asking you to do some sort of coaching for her, you've hit the jackpot, dude. Yeah. I'm like a decade in and my wife is not coaching her at all. Yeah, that's still kind of a touchy. She's still making the right strides.

But yeah, I think it was probably like day three or four that we're in the shop gym together. She's just like, we can't do this anymore. It'd be like her trying to work with me at work. But yeah, her asking the that, um, there's been that change. It's also been a change in my kids. Again, I mentioned my oldest was 14. I got four kids, eight, 10, 12 and 14. And, um, my two boys, you know, they've seen me all the time working out in the shop, working out in the gym and even the girls too, but they pick it up. They're picking it up more. 14 is becoming very interested. He's always been very picky, still picky, but he's starting to pay attention to the food that he's putting into his body. Um, the protein stuff like that. So, you know,

and that was one of the other goals that I had made before too, was like that family, uh, cooking night where very intentionally we do that again. Am I hitting that every week? No, but I'm at least trying to make it a point to where my kids are seeing the choices I'm making and trying to guide them and making the, the, the nutrition, the development, the training, and expanding their mind too. Again, that's been one of the big things that I've seen with this program is just expanding my mindset. Yeah. How do you do that with them? That's actually a really awesome insight into how just your actions expand into everyone else's mindset.

I think for them, it's a lot of the challenging, trying to explain to them that not everything is going to be easy. And that can be even decisions of food that I'm'm eating choices I'm making for friends, um, things that I'm doing in school, um, church, whatever is that, um, you know, it's really important that just because everybody is doing something in a specific way, it doesn't make it right for you. Right. Be okay with being yourself and, and, and trying something out new for your, you know, for you. Right. Um, and that, out new for you, right? And that applies for sports too, for my kids.

We're never pushy on them. So they're still in this kind of phase of exploring things. But I think they're really seeing that it's okay to try new things for them, whereas sometimes kids, you know, they're just always kind of wanting to listen to whatever the parent's guidance I'm really trying to give my kids a little bit of flexibility and freedom with that. And, you know, they do stupid stuff from time to time, but I think just that, that mindset with my kids of, you know, they need to be able to try to make some decisions on their own and Hey,

God and direct them and say, Hey, look, look at what I'm trying to do here. Yeah. Uh, it's almost cliche to say that you're like the, the leader in the household. It's like a very obvious, the parents are the leaders in the household, but I feel like that gets said, but very few people are actually taking action on that. And what you say about kind of like going the easier route or doing what everyone else is doing just because it seems easier um do you notice them carrying that out um and kind of being confident in themselves because not just because of the program but obviously who you are and then

kind of like that being accentuated because you're you're doing something that is, you know, it likely stands out amongst all of your friends. Yeah, yeah, it does. And yeah, I do see that. You know, I couldn't imagine being my kids age now, with all the different things of the social media and the different types of peer pressure and things. And I think that what they're seeing in me and I'm trying to impress upon them and they're starting to learn to adapt. I think that's going to be something that's going to carry over for a lifelong, you know, habit for them of understanding, Hey, at this young age, this was kind of started to be embedded in body to me that, you know,

teenagers and decisions of lots of different social issues and whatnot that I think it's a very, I think it's, there's a lot of opportunity for them to learn. And I'm glad that they're seeing, hey, dad's doing something also that, you know, they've never heard of this thing. They just see the, you know, the Yeti cup that i got that's the diesel dad and you know hey i'm trying to do my best uh knockout workouts in the morning we're all right here we all got them yeah yeah hey my wife was actually using it the other day and i said no back up back up don't you dare yeah but i think that that's really really important for them to see me as an example, right? Leader in the household of what am I doing that I'm stepping out and I'm not following

what everybody else is doing. Yeah. Even just having the conversation, like here's something that I think about a lot is everybody wants their kids to be healthy. Like if you ask them, do you think you're raising your kids in a healthy manner? I would bet like 80 plus percent people would be like, yes. And you go, are you really like, how do you know? How do you know if you don't have the education and that, or gone through the process yourself to actually know what it feels like, looks like, what are the

actions you have to take? Like, how do you, how do you go grocery shopping? Those are all like, it's the skill that you need to get to the place that you want to go, but it's the skill that needs to be taught to them so that they don't even know there's another way. Absolutely. I mean, because if we don't teach them, who's going to teach them, right? The person that's going to teach them is terrifying. That's right. That's right. Yeah, you don't want that person teaching them. I think that that's like a really important thing.

And I would imagine everybody, you look back on your education and you go, well, I have this great job at this great company, but I don't know how to eat. I have to do that like five times a day. Shit, what is a protein? And until you go and actually take a course or go through a program and learn the thing yourself, you really don't have the ability to pass the knowledge on and make that a part of your family. It's a really interesting kind of dynamic on on how taking action really does it it does have that trickle down in in into everyone around you um i'd love to talk about a little bit of sustainability and and kind of like where your mindset is entering into this second phase and for anybody that know like we have an initial 16 week kind of intensive program to build

all these habits and then phase two and a phase three, as we continue on throughout the year, um, a little bit more focused on kind of building muscle and then, uh, increasing calories and training. And then the third piece is, um, a little bit more of a 16 week intensive cut again at the end of the year. But where's like the, the sustainability and your mindset entering into phase two and just how kind of like normalized you've made this life over the last, I believe it's like 18 weeks now. Yeah. So sustainability, that was the big thing for me. I remember our first, our kickoff call. And that was one of the things that I had said

that I wanted, I wanted to find something that was actually sustainable for me because I remember our first, our kickoff call, and that was one of the things that I had said, that I wanted, I wanted to find something that was actually sustainable for me, because I had, I had made cuts before, you know, get down to a weight, and, you know, five, six weeks later, I'm kind of back up, that, you know, this, for me, that transition of the first 16 weeks to the second 16 weeks, so first 16 weeks, yeah, I dropped a lot, a lot of body weight more than what I planned on, which was good. Um, and then the calories went up and it was like really hard for me to get back into the calories and that, that is, it's easier now the weight's coming back up. Um, I'll still look in the mirror and I still look at myself now and being like, yeah, I'm still happy with where my body's going. So, yeah, I am a little bit of weight back on. That's what we kind of intended for this to be was to get the strength up.

But I also look at my numbers, too, of still in the gym. Right. And how I feel that that is very encouraging for me to keep this mindset of, hey, I'm actually doing something that absolutely is sustainable. The app that I use for tracking my macros, my wife kind of joked the other day, she got a notification on her phone of, I forgot how many months consecutive it was that I was tracking on this. And it was just like, wow, it's been that long, right? Yeah. But I think of, you know, the, those tools that I'm using to track every single day of how well am I sleeping? How well am I eating and all that? That's just actually becoming, it's, it's very natural. It's like, you know, Hey, I put this food into my body. I go to put it in the out so I don't forget about it. The sleeping devices, right?

It's very easy. You hit start before you go to bed and you hit stop when you wake up. All these things, it doesn't require a whole lot of effort to get the data, but the data is very encouraging to see that, hey, I'm actually still doing something that's moving the needle towards what I want to be in three know, in three months, in six months, in a year, in five years. Yeah. I think it's really common for people to just kind of assume that if you want to lose weight, that at some level you need to starve

yourself. And certainly you need to be in a caloric deficit and all that. But like, if I look at your hunger scores, you know, you lost 25 pounds in 16 weeks before you started, you know, going the other way and, and training for strength and put muscle back on. And you're, we rate hunger scores for, for people listening. We rate hunger scores, scale one to 10, 10 being like, you're never hungry. You feel just fine. And one being like, you're, you're just chronically starving and your hunger scores are like eight, nine, basically the entire duration, except for you had one week where you're a seven and one week you're a six but by and large despite being on on low calories you know your calories going a little bit lower every week to continue to make progress like you never really

got that hungry like being like a seven or a six one time is totally sustainable we tend to think we want you people to be eight nines and tens for most part, sixes and sevens only when they're kind of peaking and never five or below. Five or below is like, you're just, you're just waiting to not be dieting. It's not sustainable. So it's good to see that you can make a lot of progress while still not really being that hungry. Like what, what was it like for the most part, as far as how hungry you were walking around day to day? Yeah, it actually wasn't too bad. And you said, you know, there was a couple weeks where it did get kind of low there. And for me, I think it was also a mixture of I wasn't doing a very good job of hydration.

Well, I say hydration. Really, it was about water. Hydration is maybe a little bit different topic, but for the water. And that was one of the things that, um, coach Chris was very encouraging is he said, Hey man, he said, you know, you get hungry, you know, go drink a couple of cups of water. And it was one of those things where I didn't think I'd always heard it, but I really never really practiced it. So that was actually one of the other things I started tracking for several, several weeks was how much water am I actually taking in every day and come to find out it was pretty low. So that was one of the things that the little trick that really helped

me to overcome that. But yeah, even on those, those times where maybe I did drink glass water and I'm still, Oh my gosh, I'm hungry. I just knowing that, you know, this is a, this is a, it's a small sacrifice for a very small period of time i can do this um knowing that once i get over this hurdle that hey i'm gonna get him a little bit later or you know yeah i am hungry but you know what um i'm trying to do this for longevity and for my life that it's okay to be a little bit hungry i don't always have to have that full sensation yeah um dude we're gonna let you get back to work i appreciate you coming on here sharing a little bit of story um we got 20 weeks building some muscle what's uh tell me about the goals what

what do you kind of look forward to and um a little of things that excite you over the next 20 weeks man i think uh yeah definitely with the strength i want to see some numbers that i've never hit before i'm not getting younger right right crazy you're gonna get stronger and older at the same time that that's man that that is purely what i'm looking for i don't have numbers in mind even when we started this whole thing you know andrews you came to me said what is the weight you want to be i said i don't have a number i just know that I want to lose some of this fat that's on my body. Right. Yeah. And I'm kind of the same mindset for the strength. I just want to see that needle move up because I know that if my body's aging, but my, that needle is still moving up, that I'm getting more fit and more strong that, you know, I feel like that for

me, that that is the longevity for me. And yeah, there's going to come a time where that, you know, that point crosses where my age goes up and the needles, you know, stops moving still. That's maybe, you know, that is, that's okay. But yeah, I'm really encouraged for this, this next, uh, several weeks to be able to, um, see the strength come back down. I love it, man. Um, is there anything else you'd like to tell everyone coming into the program? Some final words? Man, all I've got to say, and I've tried to post this on some on the social media sites, you know, find a way to get in touch with me. If you've got any questions, if you've got any hesitation, it doesn't hurt to even just

shout out to Doug or to Anderson. Hey, I'm interested. Talk to me. These guys will tell you. And this may not be the program for everybody, right? I mean, we can't. You might be a single dude that has all the time in the world to just live your perfect life. Jerks.

Without your kids and all that free time you have. I wouldn't give it up, though. I wouldn't give this life up for anything. That's what I want to make right is if somebody is on the fence of whether to, you know, should I do this? Should I not do this? It doesn't hurt to ask.

A hundred percent. And, uh, I know you've been, uh, you've actually posted that multiple times in the group for people to reach out. Um,

it's always, it's always nice to just ask a question, hear someone's experience and kind of see how it goes. Um, in the group for people to reach out. It's always nice to just ask a question, hear someone's experience, and kind of see how it goes. Where can people find you? It's Jim Droke on Facebook. Is that the easiest place?

That's right. Beautiful. And jdroke83, I think, on Instagram. I don't post too much, but if you've got a question, give me a shout. Doug Larson. Right on. Jim, appreciate you coming on the show, dude. You can find me on Instagram, Douglas C. Larson.

There it is. I'm Anders Varner, at Anders Varner. We are Barbell Shrugged, Barbell underscore Shrugged. Make sure you get over to DieselDadMentorship.com. That's where all the busy dads are getting strong, lean, and athletic. Jim, it's been a pleasure seeing you guys, seeing you in the program, seeing all the results, and you and Chris working together. It's just been fantastic.

I appreciate all the hard work, and we'll see you guys next week.