Barbell Shrugged - How To Get Someone To Eat Healthy w/ Thomas Cox of MealFit - 214

Episode Date: June 1, 2016

Ever try to get your family or friends to join you in eating healthy?  It's not easy.  Check out this episode for some ideas.

This week on Barbell Shrugged, we interview Thomas Cox of Mealfit, and what do we talk about? Talk about food, and how you need to eat it. Yeah. And why it's good for you. And how to not be a fat family. Don't use the word fat. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's right, and not to use the word fat.

Yeah, how not to use the word fat as well. Right. Well, you can use fat, but it needs to be good fat. Yes. Like avocados. Don't use the bad fat. And how Well, you can use fat, but it needs to be good fat. Yes, like avocados. Don't use the bad fat. And how to get your family to change and eat better. Right?

How to become the father of your family. Hey, this is Rich Froning. You're listening to Barbell Shrugged. For the video version, go to barbellshrugged.com. Hey, I see you sitting there, lonely by your keyboard. If you want to, just whip your fingers out. Put them on your keys. Type in http://www.barbellshrug.com.

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12 seconds in is what he said. CTP is the man. The hardest I've ever laughed and cheered at the same time. I think I cried and pooped a little. It was insane. How did you do last night? Were you – was it back on? Yeah, you know.

Did you pick right back up where you left off? Yeah. Play right on the bike? I felt good. My shot was a little off. I kept missing the net. But, you know. Who all played with you?

No problem getting around. Rich, Matt? No, just Rich and Darren. Another guy that we met yesterday. And then most of another crew that usually comes. Oh, the – Yeah, there's one guy. How about Sparta? Oh, yeah.

Well, the first directions that we followed to get out there put us in a neighborhood. And I was like, man, it would be really weird to just have a roller rink pop up in the middle of this neighborhood. But I don't doubt it. I don't know, you know. But we were like a mile from it, so it worked out. Oh, and this rink was – man, it looked like it was straight up out of 1982. It wasn't a rounded rink, you know? No.

I played with it once. Yeah. Did you have fun? I'm awful. Freaking awful. You would think a guy that used to get paid to play sports would be a little bit more athletic. Yeah.

But it's on wheels. It's a different hemisphere. Yeah. It is. It is. All right. So, you guys ready? We're ready. Let's do it. Yeah, it is. All right, so you guys ready? We're ready.

Three, two. Welcome to Barbell Shrug. I'm your host, Mike McGoldrick, here with Alex Macklin. Yo. Kurt Mulliken. Hey. And as always, CTP behind the camera. And today we have made our way to Cookville, Tennessee,

on the west side of the square. West side. Downtown with our very special guest, Thomas Cox of Meal Fit. Hello. Thomas is a good friend of ours, and we're very excited for this interview, mainly because he's a very passionate guy, and I just can't wait to pick his brain on some things. And without me talking anymore, Thomas, why don't you tell us about yourself?

Oh, okay. How did you get here? How did I get here? Well, we got a moving truck, moved all this stuff here. But originally from Alabama, I used to coach college football and high school football. Got into the college football thing, loved it. My boss in North Carolina when I was coaching North Carolina State got fired. And so when you get fired in college football, everybody loses their job.

So we lost our job, had no job for a little bit. Well, the guy that coached me came to Tennessee Tech to coach. Called me and said, hey, you want to come coach for them? I was like, great. I don't have a job. I'd love to. We moved to Cookville from North Carolina, coached here for six years, coached the offensive line and wide receivers, loved that,

but realized I was raising college kids instead of my own kids. So we started having kids throughout that process. Quit my job because I didn't – I mean, again, I was raising college kids and then, uh, took a huge pay cut to like, like half. Yeah. I went from like 60 K ish to like 30 and just said, but I knew that it wasn't what I was supposed to be doing. So that's why we got out. And then, um, I mean like three or four months after being in the job, working at the church, um, I mean, literally it sounds super spiritual, but, like, God put something in my lap. A guy walked in my office and said, hey, help me figure out what to eat.

And I did. And two weeks later a guy sent me a check in the mail. It was like, hey, can you help me like you helped Greg? I'm like, yeah. And it was a domino effect from there. And then here we are. Mill Fit headquarters. Mill Fit HQq downtown cookville

very cool yep awesome and were you like doing meal plans for people or yeah okay this whole thing started out to be in meal plans me sitting there creating recipes for people um sending out grocery lists just really honestly alex just to make people's lives easier that's really kind of our mo is we're not like super special we We don't have the key ingredient to fitness or life, but we want to make people's lives easier. And so that's really where this thing started out. And here we are, I don't know, two and a half years later, and we've had clients in over 25 countries, thousands of people in over 25 countries use our product, which is awesome. When something pops up in your email that someone from Bogota, Colombia has subscribed and going to eat the food that you tell him to eat.

Yeah. That's pretty cool. That is cool. Yeah. So earlier when we were discussing some possible topics for today, it got really passionate to the point where we were like, we got to stop. Like we need to start filming now because you had some really good stories

for us. And I love the, the, the statement that you make with what it is that you do. Um, so with that said, like leading into why you started meal fit it is that you do. Um, so with that said, like leading into why you started meal fit is a really good story. And then what your purpose is with it. Right. So it,

it pains me and I've got friends that own fast food restaurants. I've got two friends here in town that do it, but it pains me to see a guy or a wife walking out of the gas station with a 75 ounce Slurpee and their kid holding it with two hands that they've got one or seeing six people in the drive-thru and a family at, I hate to pick on McDonald's, but that's the one everybody picks on. So I'm going to pick on them too at McDonald's. And that's the way they feed their family multiple times a week. And, um, my job, my passion is to keep your family out of the drive-thru I want to make your life easier so that you don't have feel like you have to rush rush rush and go pick up something to drive

through whether it be Sonic or McDonald's or Wendy's or wherever I want to make your life easier and get it to where you have real food to eat and I want to keep you out of the drive-thru. So why might that be a bad thing? I mean, I'm being very – I'm asking a very obvious question that I think a lot of people would know. But explaining why, you know, you want to actually do that and help these families, you know, based on some of the numbers, the things – how food has changed, the food industry has changed over the years. Like why are we trying to avoid that? The food industry has changed drastically over the years. I'll give you an example. I'm a little older than y'all, but –

Okay, so remember growing up. How many kids growing up – I'm just picking on this one thing. How many kids growing up were allergic to peanuts? I don't know. I had one friend. I never knew anybody. I never heard of it. I had one friend allergic to peanuts growing up.

Now, my wife, who's been teaching for almost 15 years, she's a science teacher. She makes these peanut butter cookies. She can't make that anymore. Oh, yeah. Because so many kids are allergic to peanuts. What do I attribute it to? Could it be immunizations? Could it be the food?

I think it's part of the food we eat. The food industry has changed so much. It's all become about the dollar. People are adding artificial ingredients that you can make in mass to food. And it's not real food. Yeah. The food that people are producing in these fast food restaurants,

it's not real food. Yeah. Yeah. And so my goal is to get you to eat real food. If it had a face and it had a soul, eat it. If it rots. If it rots. Yes. If it rots.

That's a great point. I think I saw somewhere, I don't know if this was fake or not, but somebody left a quarter pounder with cheese out on the table for like a year or something and it still looked the same like a year later. If food doesn't rot and decompose, that shit ain't food. You know what I mean?

Exactly. That's part of the reason. Here's the thing. I want, here's the thing. If you work out an hour a day, five days a week, you are the anomaly. That is,

that is outside the box for a lot of people. But here's, and that's important. Working out is important. But here's the thing. If you eat just 30 minutes a day, 30 minutes per meal,

three times a day, that's an hour and a half, seven days a week. You are eating so much more than you're working out. But yet, when people get ready to go to the beach, whether they want to get in shape or feel better, what do they want to do?

I want to work out. No. If you want to change your life, fix your food. Fix your food. You can fix your food. You're doing that three times a day every day, sometimes more. Three times a day every day. And if you work out once a day, you're really doing it.

Yeah. And so that just tells you right there what's more important. Yeah. Yeah. I was actually – I was seeing something. Somebody posted on Instagram. I think it was Leslie Schilling. We had her on the show or we'll have her on the show for full depth.

But she posted something. It's like if it were just as simple as work out more, eat less, we'd all have this shit mastered by everybody. There's no doubt. Everybody would be fit. There's no doubt. Yeah. Food and nutrition is the bottom foundation.

Yes. So what's changed? You'd think that it would have changed when we were kids. It was part of the family dynamic. Your mom's on the way to take your sister to dance practice, maybe you to T-ball or whatever. You stop off at McDonald's on the way through. The kids are like, woo, hell yeah, McDonald's.

Like why hasn't that changed as much as we feel like maybe it would have being in our little fitness bubble? Bezos, the guy that owns Amazon, he made a comment before. He said in business, you're not – the question you don't need to ask yourself is what's the next thing, okay? The thing you have to ask yourself is what's not going to change. Here's the thing that's not going to change. People are not going to get any less busy. Yeah. And so we rationalize going through the drive through eating crappy food. I'm just

so busy. No, you suck as a planner. You're not, you're not that busy. You suck as a planner. You're not that busy. You suck as a planner. So if we would plan better, okay, so that we can eat real food, you wouldn't have to use the excuse of you're so busy. Here's the thing. You're going to plan to have a great meal for your boss or a potential client that's going to come in. You're going to plan that sucker out, aren't you? But you know what? Very true. Why would you just feed your kids, the people that are your offspring you created them why would you feed them that okay i want to i'm gonna do an experiment is i'm gonna take a plant we feed a plant what water water yes if i took a plant and i fed that plant a 20-ounce Coke every day, how long would that sucker last?

Seriously, how long would that sucker last? Okay, but yet we feed the humans that we created a Coke, Kool-Aid, sugary bull crap, and yet we feed a plant that costs $4 at the Walmart water. Oh, you've got to feed it water. You've got to water it. feed a plant that costs four bucks at the at the walmart yeah water oh you don't water all you gotta feed it water gotta gotta gotta water it but yet we're feeding our kids and things like that it you can tell it upsets me tell me tell me about the numbers how they've changed over the years you brought that up earlier and that was an interesting statistic which i would love to hear more childhood of beat their childhood diabetes yeah so uh this obesity thing is really it's really mushroomed

since like the late late 70s early early 80s when i was born uh in 2000 in 2000 there were zero cases of childhood obesity type 2 diabetes okay zero cases in 2010 of type 2 diabetes in 2010 there were 57 000 wow okay so 57 000 57 000 percent i guess the 57 000 percent yeah increase in 10 years what the heck yeah yeah you know yeah it blows my mind that we have done that to our kids yeah you know why why did that happen what do you attribute in my opinion i think it's sugar and you for so many years fat got the bad rap you know but the worst thing we did with fat is call someone that's obese fat yeah it's like calling rich protein yeah it is it is seriously though yeah you look at rich you know he's protein. You look at someone that's obese. Fat will forever have a negative connotation. I'm protein as fuck.

I'm looking at protein today, bro. But you call someone that's overweight fat. It's the worst thing we can do because fat is an essential product in our diet. And so we call someone fat. Like I said before, it's like me at a makeup counter at the mall, trying to get your wife. Brandy comes by. I'm saying, hey, you need to buy this lipstick.

It's really good. It's this, it's this, it's this. And Brandy goes, okay, great. What's it called? It's called Ugly. Now, how am I going to get Brandy? But it's good Ugly. But it's good Ugly.

It's good Ugly. How am I going to get Brandy to buy lipstick labeled Ugly? How am I going to get someone to eat fat? Right. After all these years, they see someone's a wet and they call them fat. It's so hard. It's a mind shift that we've got to make, but it's hard, but I think it can be done. Interesting.

Yeah. I actually never thought about it like that. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, that's a really good point. So this is an interesting topic and not one I can really argue about because I don't have children. So when it comes to dealing with clients or people that I try to help, uh, eat better and eat cleaner and save time, I don't really have a lot of leverage. Um, you know, I don't want to say arguing my point. I'm not trying to tell them that I'm right. I'm just trying to help them see that it is possible, but

you have three children and you've done this and that's, this is what you do now is you help those families eat cleaner and save time and do those things um tell me about that like the challenges that have come up with that what happens is i'm just like anybody else we're busy we have things to do and what happens is instead of creating snacks because snacks are the big thing i mean snacks are the big thing we sit down six six nights a week and eat dinner together yeah we make it happen whether it's at 630 or whether it's at 830. We figure out a way because I think that's important. But the biggest thing is snacks because my kids, my little boy, he's four. A sucker eats like a grown man.

And so he's always wanting snacks. And I think what happens is we neglect that. And so what we had gotten into is like Go-Gurts and crappy, sugary-filled things like that. And I read this book, Salt, Sugar, Fat, where he talked about the food industry, how they were masking good food. Yogurt's a great food. What they were doing is they were saying it's yogurt and it's portable. It's healthy because it's yogurt.

Yeah, it's dairy. It's dairy. Low-fat. Low-fat. Low-fat. It's got protein in it. But what they were doing is they had so much sugar in it. We started analyzing and saying, this thing had like 20 grams of sugar in a Go-Gurt that

was, you're done. Yeah. You know? And so I had told Jackie the other night, it's my job to eat good. It's my job to help people. And yet I look at what we were doing. I was like, what are we doing? Yeah.

And so it's been a process of taking things out yeah just little by little you can't walk into someone say all right look here's what we're doing we're going gluten-free no bread no grain no pasta no sugar everybody but no you can't do that because people will go the other way yeah they'll get they won't listen if you can do this thing step by step hey let's take this one thing out you know what my kids don't even notice they don't have gogurts anymore yeah and just progressively do those things if we can do this thing step by step hey let's take this one thing out you know what my kids don't even notice they don't have gogurts anymore yeah and just progressively do those things if we can do that i think we'll have success and we've seen in our home we've progressively taken little bitty things out of our kids diets and it's made a difference yeah their attitudes have been better yeah what are some of the things that you've you've gradually removed out of your diet that

you feed your kids gogurt was number one okay um we also had we were big hot chocolate people we loved hot chocolate we took that out even it didn't matter if it was august or december we took uh we took that out uh we're slowly taking bread out now i love a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and that's the next guy oh yeah i don't eat them but my kids like them right so we're slowly taking that out of there. We were big, big tortilla people. Yeah. Because they're so easy.

My 7-year-old can come in and make a little tortilla and go. Now, in my opinion, it's probably a little bit better than bread. Yeah, it's a lesser of evils. It's a lesser of two evils, but we're starting to take those things out. So those are just some of the things that we've kind of pulled out. Now, the candy stuff, we don't buy cookies. We don't. My dad comes up once every two months, and he gets gluten-free cookies,

and he brings them in, and my kids go ape over them. You know what? That's a battle I'm not fighting. Yeah, I was going to ask. How do you handle, like, if your kids go to school? Do your kids go to school? My kids do go to school. Like public school?

Yeah, public school. So how do you handle it? Because I've read somewhere, like, they feed kids crap in public schools. And then if they go to their friend's house, how do you deal with that, like trying to train your kids to eat healthy? So when it comes to school, it's all about time. It's all about managing your time. I spend 30 minutes a night making my kids lunch and snack the rest of the day,

the next day, because the place that my 4-year-old goes it is really really bad like as far as the quality of food like i looked in there one morning them suckers were eating pizza as a vegetable exactly they were eating pop tarts mandarin oranges and uh waffles oh my god where's the protein that would put me in a coma okay look that wasn in a coma in high school. I think I slept all through high school. Yeah, probably because of that. I was asleep. I was asleep the whole time.

So they're feeding them that. I just looked at it, and I was like, yeah, I don't want my child eating this. So I do. I spend 30 minutes a night when I could be watching American Idol or The Voice or something like that. Right. And I sit there, and I make. Great show. Great show, yes.

I like The Voice better than American Idol. But I sit there, and I do that every night because. It's a priority for you. It's a priority. It's important. It's a big deal. I mean, and here's the thing. It's not like the one big birthday party where your kid eats ice cream and cake.

It's the constant daily thing. It's like in life. It's like in business. It's like the Bible says the little foxes are the ones that spoil the vine. It's not the big bear that comes through your vineyard and tears everything up. It's the little fox that comes through that messes up your garden. It's the little things that you do. It's the snack every day. Yeah. It's the lunch every day. What are you feeding your kids? Because over time, that's what's going to affect them. Yeah. Yeah. People forget that consistency is a big thing.

It can be consistency in a good way or consistency in a bad way. You didn't get to obese, you know, maybe occasionally eating a McFlurry or something like we did the other day. Like this is an everyday thing that you're doing, and this is how you got there. And then if you want to reverse it, it's going to have to be an everyday thing to reverse it. And people don't see it that way, I think.

The thing that is discouraging as a coach, because I coach the gym three days a a week if someone comes in there and they're obese they're out of shape and when's the last time you worked out about about 18 years ago yeah it's almost funny it really is they laugh about it but they sit there and they go after six weeks they're not why am i not down to so and so right well it took you 18 years to get this way it's not going to take you 18 days to get to look like you want to look. Yeah. And so we go over that, and that's really, really hard for people to wrap their mind around because consistency has been the key to anything in life. Right.

Right. Well, all right. So what could you give to these families or someone who is trying to change this behavior after however many years? Like we said earlier, kind of meeting in the middle because it's a really difficult thing to change this behavior after however many years, like we said earlier, kind of meeting in the middle because it's a really difficult thing to change. It's easy to tell your children to do it, but you've got to be on board too.

So getting the whole family on board, what are some easy takeaways that you could give the listeners that maybe have kids and families that would really want to get started? Yeah, and maybe to add to that, I was going to ask, was it always easy? Where did it start? No, it's never been easy. I, and maybe to add to that, I was going to ask, was it always easy? You know, like where did it start? No, it's never been easy. I remember when we lived in North Carolina, me and my wife would eat grilled chicken,

and we would get those five-pound bags of crinkle-cut fries, okay, orrata. Orrata, yeah. Orrata, yeah. And we would fry them, y'all. We would eat a plate the size of this computer every night and drink grape Kool-Aid. We love grape Kool-Aid. Yeah. But I was proud of this the other night. So the other night we're sitting there, and something was said about Kool-Aid. We love grape Kool-Aid. I was proud of this the other night.

The other night we're sitting there and something was said about Kool-Aid. Jackie said something about Kool-Aid. I said something. I said, grape Kool-Aid. John in my seven-year goes, what's Kool-Aid? I felt bad because my kid didn't know what grape Kool-Aid was. Your kid doesn't know what purple drink is.

I felt good that she didn't know what grape Kool-Aid was. The little b takeaways that you can use start slow don't walk in and throw things away yeah this is really really petty but this is a big deal go to the grocery store right after you eat eat and then go to the grocery store because what happens is when you see something your mind says i want that because you're hungry you will grab it you will put it in your buggy and all is lost is when you see something, your mind says, I want that because you're hungry. You will grab it. You will put it in your buggy, and all is lost because when you get it home, you're going to eat it.

It's in the house. It's in the house. It's on the house. You're going to eat it. So use your willpower in the 30 minutes you're in the store, not at home. Don't test your willpower all week long. Test your willpower for 30 minutes, not six days. And so go to the store right after you eat

because if you're satisfied when you walk in, you're not going to want chips. You're not going to want the fun-sized snicker. It's really small, but there's 64 of them in there. That's a good deal too. It's a great deal. And on the end cap, so those are a couple things. And the next thing is pull things out as opposed to adding things to.

So here's the biggest mistake people make when wanting to eat healthy. And I've got friends like that here locally. Well, it's organic. You know what? Organic Oreos are still Oreos. And they're out there because it's marketing. But instead of adding something that's super organic or adding something that's healthy, let's take one thing out that's marketing. But instead of adding something that's super organic or adding something that's healthy,

let's take one thing out that's bad. Us, for one of the things, I keep picking on Go-Gurt. Us, it was Go-Gurt. We took that out because it was loaded with sugar. But take one thing out. Don't go in and say we're just wholesaling everything and we're taking all the bad stuff out. Take one thing this week.

Take one thing next week let's implement this as opposed to this always have a substitute our sub we spent a crap ton of money on fruit i mean we buy two bags of apples we buy three or four things of strawberries my kids love cantaloupe uh what we bought a watermelon for the first time this season and they were pretty good um so we've used that and we have in the neighborhood with kids and jackie came to me the other day and she's like these kids up the street they're just all they do is want to come and eat and eat i was like babe we want kids to to hang out at our home yeah don't we yeah we would rather have kids at our home

as opposed to our kids going to someone else's home. So if we want these neighborhood kids at our home, let's feed them. I said I have no problem with feeding other kids an apple or an orange or a banana. We go through 24 bananas a week. 24 bananas a week. Now, somebody out there is going to say, what, sugar? Yeah, I get it, it's what sugar? Yeah, I get it. It's sugar.

You know, I do. I get that. Okay? But there's a different glycemic rise in that. Well, it has other redeeming qualities. There's no doubt. Vitamins and minerals. Exactly.

I'd rather than be addicted to fruit and bananas. Whatever, fruit gummy bears or whatever the hell. Here's one of the things that I was proud of my wife helping do is last night, Jackie cut the watermelon open. They were freaking jacked when they went over there, and the watermelon was open. They were just, oh, this is awesome. Yeah.

A watermelon and cantaloupe was dessert last night. Yeah. And I know it makes us sound like a fruit or a nut. I don't really care, but that's just a shift that we've made. And you know what? Our kids are healthy. Yeah. you know what our kids are healthy yeah you know our kids are healthy and i i feel like that that's something that we've done over time it's not going to change overnight your kids are human just like you are you are not and they are not going to change overnight so that's why you

have to do these things incrementally yeah i was going to ask you a follow-up to that have you always kind of prioritized uh food quality i know you said earlier that you took a big giant pay cut um when you left your job as a coach um and a big thing that i've noticed is that the quality food like the food that you're buying is like five times more expensive than the crap food so yeah you can buy a bag big bag of chips for five bucks but you can maybe only buy like a small bag of fruit for that same amount and feed half as many people. So have you always kind of prioritized food in terms of your budget and things like that? We're budget people. Yeah.

Okay. And a lot of people out there aren't budget. We don't have disposable income to where we can just buy whatever. So one of the key things that is not eating out. Yeah. to where we can just buy whatever. So one of the key things that is not eating out. Anytime you eat out, you are paying four to five times more for the food than you are if you go buy it.

So we eat out once a month maybe and we have three kids. Now let me tell you something. If you have multiple kids, going out is an adventure that you don't want to partake in. It's not like an adventure like we're going to go

through the woods hiking. It's like an adventure like we're going to go through the woods hiking. It's like an adventure like we're going to go through the woods hiking being chased by bears and snakes. How many kids do you have? Three kids.

And what are their ages? Seven, four, and four months. So they're all like really young. So taking them out to a restaurant is a big ordeal. It's suicide. I don't like doing it.

And Jackie, my wife loves going out to eat because she likes to, she doesn't cook anyway, but she likes to sit back, relax, talk, have someone bring this. I don't like it because I don't want to have to put out all the fire. But getting back to your question is we didn't sacrifice that when we took huge pay cut. Because the first thing is I planned financially because I knew about three or four

months ahead of time that this was going to come down the pipe. And that's why it's always good to be good with your money because you never know what's going to come up. So we didn't sacrifice that. We sacrificed other things like going out to eat, spending less on the miscellaneous items that you would buy throughout the month that may not be necessities. Because we knew that food was important. And if you can just figure out and cook things and make things and spend a little extra time, that is where you're going to see the biggest difference. Buying this and cooking this as opposed to being a poor planner and so, oh, my gosh, I've got to go get something at McDonald's or a shopping mall or whatever. Yeah, again, I mean, I think it's a – you've got your priorities all messed up. You know, if you – a lot of people won't think about if it's money.

They're like, well, I can't afford to eat good food. But yet you just went out to eat at a nice restaurant because it was convenient or you went out to the bar or whatever. Like I see this all the time. Like you – like Kurt, you were in the muscle gain challenge and you did – you had to eat a certain way and it was expensive for you. And you quit your job. I did. But you still did it because you prioritized it.

Yeah, I gave up certain things like going out drinking a lot or drinking a couple Rockstars every day. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, people forget that you make a choice. It's a choice. I think it's a weaning off process too. Obviously, if you're used to eating out several times a week right you're kind of reliant on that you're reliant on someone providing that service for you you don't probably you probably don't want to just want to like cut

it all out at once because yeah you're going to starve yourself at home too you're going to get burned out on having to cook if you have no experience doing that either so just like you said picking out one thing a week start with taking out one day a week that you eat out you know have that extra time to plan and learn how to prepare food could be really helpful oh no question i think that also you never know two things you never know what you're spending until you track it save every receipt when they when you're at the gas station you buy a rockstar and whatever else save the receipt throw it in a bag the bag. When you're going out to eat at Longhorn, save the receipt, throw it in the bag.

At the end of the month, count up how much wasted money. And I say wasted. I shouldn't say wasted because you ate dinner at Outback or Longhorn and you fed that meal. But you paid $17 for a steak that cost six. And it's a domino effect. So add up how much you spent on miscellaneous wasted stuff.

Then go back and figure out what you spent. Cut that in half, like you're saying. Cut that in half and buy real food. We are a family of five. I say five, four and a half. And we eat for about between $120 and $130 a week. That's not too, too bad. Yeah.

I mean, that's doable for a lot of people. A family of five? Yeah. $130 a week? Yep. Wow. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

And we do. My wife and I eat more than that. We buy real food. I mean, that's the thing, too, is eating real food. Yeah. Well, that's your kind of philosophy, to eat real food. Yeah. Like I said before, if it's got a face and a soul, eat it.

If it grew on the ground, eat it. Yeah. If it's about 47 ingredients, stay away. And, I mean, I like what you do, too. It's got to taste good, too. If it doesn't taste good, you're not going to eat it. And I remember reading about what you do specifically at Meal Fit is that, you know, we're from the South, you know, and we got Southern food and Southern food just traditionally is just not very good for you, but you've managed to make Southern food that tastes really good.

Try to make it as healthy as possible. I think it's more about taking the bad things out than it is putting the good things in. And so you can take some little bitty things out of what you're eating and it'd be fine. But here's another thing. My grandparents were 93 and 80-something when they died. They didn't have all that crap back then. They ate what? They ate real food. It's like my dad tells the story all the time of sitting there.

My dad went off to college. He went to a really nice college because he got a football scholarship, and he came back, and his granddad was sitting there, and he was eating bacon cooked in lard, eggs cooked in lard. And my dad comes in and says, hey, Papa June, he says, you need to not eat that. It's going to do this. It's going to hurt your heart. It's going to clog your arteries.

It's going to clog your arteries. And so he said that about something else. And he said, well, son, if I didn't eat this, I'd starve. And he's right because all they had back then was real food yeah right and so that's kind of the philosophy we want to take is is is eating real food and another thing you gotta you gotta communicate to people is don't be scared to experiment yeah spices and things like that they don't have any nutrient how much nutritional value but they can be a game changer yeah as far as what the way of food tastes oh yeah and so

you've got to be able to spend the three bucks to get you know a different type of seasoning to experiment and make things taste different yeah so i think that's big as an experiment i think the hardest part when you're starting this new adventure on you know cooking more for yourself and eat and eating out less it's just that first like couple of weeks when you're learning you know what to what extent you can don't you can really simplify the food to where it's not like really boring to eat right and it takes some time and you got to be okay with that for the first week because it's hard in the beginning it's hard in the beginning because you're like i just baked all this chicken and after one day of eating and i am exhausted with it like i don't want to eat this crap anymore

yeah but you but you learn you know you learn that you learn the tricks, you learn the ways to cook stuff faster. Like it definitely takes a little bit of time, but like now it's like second nature when I think about cooking for the week, you know, and I know like what to avoid when it comes to, if I make that, I know it's really clean and healthy, but I'm not going to eat that all week. So you do have to kind of meet in the middle. Yeah. You got to have variety. Yeah. Yeah. Where did you find all these, these recipes that you you that you have some of the things that we do are original a lot of stuff we do is me getting home and it sounds awful because i'm the planner guy is me getting home and not having a plan throwing things together

most of the time those are the best things because that's where i thrive is going in the kitchen seeing that we have these six things me making something and going from there that's that's where i do and a lot i'm bounced. And I'm a huge Pinterest guy. Like Pinterest, the internet is a – Dude, Pinterest is huge if you're a foodie, man. It's a wealth of – But here's the thing too. Going back to what you were saying, Mike, is you sit there and you go,

well, I don't know what to do. I don't know what – Here's the thing. If your wife is going to go make curtains, she is going to spend freaking 20 hours looking at curtains on Pinterest, on Southern Living, on all these things. But yet, she's not going to spend 30 minutes trying to find something. You can type in anything on any of these search engines, and you can come up with a thousand.

Chicken meals, chicken dishes, beef, whatever, type in anything on any of these search engines and you can come up with a thousand chicken meals chicken dishes beef whatever and you're going to come up with a bunch of things yeah you can even throw the word healthy in there and get even more things yeah and so it's all about your product like you were saying earlier it's all about your priorities if you got time to look at curtains you've got time to look at to study new workout shoes but you don't have time to study 20 minutes for food yeah yeah you know something's wrong with that situation why is that well people just make excuses stop i'm gonna come from the other side of it and then kind of challenge that like why is that why is it not fun to do that because people are intimidated by getting in the kitchen

that's number one it's intimidating the fire the heat and they're afraid to screw it they're afraid to screw it up okay yeah and most people are afraid also uh to get away from the norm my wife goes to a mexican restaurant she orders the same thing every time you go to the the longhorn she orders the same thing every time we are creatures of habit i figured that out in our business here, the meal fit ready aspect of it. I started being creative because I like to be creative. I order something different every time I go somewhere. But I started figuring out that people quit ordering and didn't order as much when I did something that was a little bit out there.

People like fajitas. Yeah. People like – I made fajitas last night. Exactly. People like cauliflower pizza. That's one of the things we make that people go bonkers over. People love lasagna.

People love the things that they know. When you can make the things that they know healthy, they like them even more. And so people are intimidated. I think that's the biggest thing. People are intimidated. People don't want to screw things up. Yeah, I'm going to be honest. A lot of the companies now that are taking the new spin on creating healthier meals,

I'm more prone to going towards those companies that make things that I'm familiar with already with a healthier version of it. When it's something that I can't pronounce or haven't heard of, I'll try it, and it's usually pretty good. But if I've never heard of it and I haven't eaten in my whole life, I'm kind of like, eh, I mean, yeah. But if you make cauliflower pizza or paleo lasagna, I'm going to crush it. I think one of the best pieces of advice I've heard about food and variety is that find like 10 or 15 recipes that you like and that you know how to make. You just make them all the time and you don't really have to go back to that recipe.

You just make them all the time and then just switch them up. Yeah. And then that's just your recipe, your little repertoire or whatever. Like the predicament that I see is like we're talking about, you know, a top-down model where we're changing the way our kids eat or maybe our friends or something like that. But what about I'm pretty amped right now. I'm like looking at the shit that my family eats, which is terrible, by the way.

Right. Shout-out to mom for trying to kill me. Mother's Day is coming up. That's the kind of shout out you get. Damn. Just kidding. Anyway. Well, Kurt, I didn't know that wasn't healthy.

Sorry, I'm not paleo, okay? So, yeah, I'm actually talking about my dad my stepmom really is like they they've got a 15 year old son uh but they they buy so much crap and so how do you uh you know bring that to your family i'm fighting an uphill battle you know when you're talking your parents or your parents or your parents actually eat clean um that's that's an issue that i see is like we want to try to work back up the ladder. That's a good question. And I want to hear your thoughts on it too, obviously.

And we talked about a little bit earlier, but it's when you try and break someone's beliefs, that's when the problems come. So if you show up, you know, beliefs bend better than they break. So if you come in and tell someone you're all doing this wrong, we're cutting out the gluten, like you said earlier,

people are going to be like, whoa, and they're going to run and not going to come back and you're never going to, you know, positively influence them. So the meeting in the middle, like you guys do, which is what meal fit does from what I see,

which is amazing thing. And then also it's society's view on what's normal. Now we talked about that earlier. Like, you know, tell us a story about when you saw someone that you deemed as fit. It disturbed me more than anything, Mike, because I was driving down the road,

and I noticed someone on the side of the road, and they were in good shape. And I noticed them. They caught my eye. And it wasn't because it was a chick that was hot. It was just someone that was in shape. And then as I kept driving and kept seeing people on the side of the road, seeing people at Walmart, I noticed that the norm is overweight and obese.

And it bothered me. And I sat there and I go, what is our deal? Where it's like you and I talked earlier. 20 pounds overweight is bad. It is awful on your heart. You're nervous. All those things. But 20 pounds overweight now.

That's the normal. That's normal. That's the normal. And obese is just one step. And morbidly obese is now obese. And so I sat there and I go, like I was telling you, you are fit. But you're the anomaly. You are different.

And when used to, I guess 20 years ago, people didn't walk around like that. People weren't overweight. People weren't having to have the cart in Walmart to get their groceries just because they can't move. Yeah, and people think that when people, you know, they're trying to change their life or you tell them to change their lifestyle and be like, well, I'm fine. I'm normal. This is, this is how I'm supposed to be because they look around and they blend in. Right now there are a

handful of things where it's okay to be in the middle. The only thing I think where it's okay to be in the middle is when you're talking about changing someone's lifestyle, because here's what happens when someone changes their lifestyle is from a food perspective they incrementally change it what happens is it's like a drug when they see results they want more yeah yeah when they lose 10 pounds told my wife this today i said the reason you're doing good because we just had a baby she just had a baby when you when you start to see results when the scale moves or these genes fit that didn't fit four months ago. Or people give you compliments.

Compliments. It's like a drug. You want more of it. Oh, yeah. Okay? It's like buddies I had in college. Dudes use steroids. Okay?

Steroids are an addicting drug as much as like a heroin or a cocaine. Why? Because you see results and you want results. It's the same thing. When you can meet, like you said results. It's the same thing. When you can meet, like you said earlier,

there's a great term, meet in the middle and say, hey, look, let's just cut out gogurts. Let's just cut out bread this week. And watch what happens. And watch what happens. Or here's the thing. Here's the thing that I see. Let's go, you drink 14 Mountain Dews a day.

Let's go to seven. Let's say seven Mountain Dews a day this week. And then next week, let's go three. And what happens is I've seen people do that. The weight will fly off of them and they will feel better. If you go in and you're drinking 14 Mountain Dews a day, I say, hey bro, no more Mountain Dews. They're going to push back. Getting someone to change their food lifestyle is the same thing as religion. Yeah. I was about to say, it is the same thing as religion yeah I was about to say it's the same thing because if I kick the door inside listen yeah believe all you son of a guns are gonna know Jesus and you're gonna know him now it's not gonna work if you don't know who Jesus is and you don't yeah you're gonna say I don't want to who that is yeah but if I come and

say hey look let's do this you know let's just go and uh let's go serve at this homeless shelter yeah yeah cool let's go i'll go with you that's one step into converting someone that doesn't know jesus to know jesus it's the same thing it's a foot in the door exactly it's a foot in the door it's the same thing with with food hey let's just let's let's drop that thing to five mountain dews today yeah you know and it's a it's a pro it's a stair-step process from there. Yeah. I kind of completely derailed Kurt's point earlier, but you ended up covering it.

It was awesome. The question he asked about specifically families and people you care about, yeah, like how do you get them started without completely getting them turned off to what it is you're trying to say. And I think you also have to be very persistent too at it. Like if you care about them and you love them, don't give up. Like I had to also have to be very persistent too at it. Like if, if you care about them and you love them, they don't give up. Like I had to do this with my own parents and that, uh, I tried to get them to adopt, you know, a healthier lifestyle, start eating paleo and

doing CrossFit. I just, I hammered them for like years, years to try to get them to do it. So I think persistency, just like we were talking about earlier, um, you know, with consistency, like if you want somebody to change, you're going to have to put that effort, that consistent effort into trying to get them to change as well. Yep, and I think that it's also something where, pardon my language, you can't be a dick about it. Yeah, that's true. Here's the thing.

The old saying is you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar. It's the same thing. You've got to love people. Whether you're talking about religion or whether you're talking about getting someone to change in a way that you think is best. You've got to love them. And like you said, meet them in the middle. And from there, it will progress.

Come from a place of love. Exactly. And show that. Yeah. Right. It's so hard as a big brother, though, because I would rather just look at my brother and be like, you look like 200 pounds of chewed gum. That's how brothers are. Right.

No, it's like, hey, the funny thing is that's the way I grew up, and my mom would probably watch this. But every morning, you know what I ate every morning for breakfast? Soft-batch chocolate chip cookies, honey bun, and orange juice. But you know what? The orange juice was good for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we were good.

Yeah. But that's what I ate every morning. So I know. My mom's not a cooker. My mom cooks a heck of a meal at Thanksgiving, a great meal at Easter, and a great meal at Christmas. But really, and she'd sit here and she'd tell you the same thing. That's what she does.

Now, she's gotten better over the years because I really do, honestly, I think because of what I do now, she's gotten better because she feels pressure. But her son's the food guy, you know? Well, how do you eat now? I'm just curious. People may want to be interested. What's like a typical day for you now of eating eating okay so typical day by the way thomas is shredded typical day uh i get up really really early and i drink coffee in the morning i have

time in the morning where i have to get going i sit there and read work study all those different types of things uh and then if i'm gonna work out i work out and I'm done before 6am. Reason being is I've got kids and I've got to get stuff going, you know? Uh, so I'll then about seven, seven o'clock I eat eggs, eight, four eggs, two pieces of bacon every morning. And then a lot of times at lunch, I'll eat some sorts of protein and try to get some kind of vegetable in. Yeah. And I am not like the keto guy okay but i found out for me and everybody you talk to probably on this show that you ask about everybody's got something different that works for them yep for me it is more low carb thought process than anything i remember talking to you one year where you were consuming like when you were training for the

games i think the year you made the games you were training you were consuming where you were consuming, like when you were training for the games, I think the year you made the games, you were training, you were consuming rice, you were consuming potatoes and doing this. Y'all, I can't do that. Yeah. I don't feel as good. And this is so vain. I don't look as good. I mean, but here's the thing though. I mean, feeling good is a major, major point. But another thing is if you don't look good naked for someone that's in this industry, it's hard. It's as much as that's in this industry, it's hard. As much as I hate to say it, it's credibility. Yeah, it really, really is. And so that's part of the thing for me is I'm more of a low-carb thought process.

And when I do consume them, I'm more of the sweet potato thought process. I love jasmine rice. I can make jasmine rice that will make you push your grandma in a ditch it is very and i will teach you guys i mean i've had jasmine rice i mean it must be pretty damn awesome listen i will teach you guys before we leave okay so we should do a video yeah we'll do a video how to make jasmine rice it's very very good so i like that but i get the fact that it doesn't make me feel as good and it doesn't make me quote look as good because it just doesn't go well with me i've done keto i did keto eight weeks loved it it's it's it's difficult because keto ketogenic diet okay what is that

okay ketogenic diet is where you have to get your body's process to start burning fat for fuel as opposed to burning carbs. And you do that by? You do that by consuming a lot more fat in your diet than carbohydrates. So I was sub-30 carbs a day. 70% of my calories were from fat. Yeah. And probably 20% or 30% of my calories were protein. Yeah.

Now here's the thing, the mistake I made the first time I did this. So what happens is when you consume carbohydrates, your body releases insulin. Insulin takes the sugar and it distributes it through your body. Okay? Dumbed down version of it. But what happens is when your body can't process enough all the protein you consume because you're consuming too much protein,

your body starts, I think it's glycogenesis, I think is what it's called, where your body turns that protein into glucose. Right. Yeah. And so what I was doing is I was consuming tons and tons of protein, but yet I was still getting that insulin rise. I'm talking, I'm talking a little scientific here, but I was still getting that insulin rise.

It wasn't doing any good because I was still having that insulin rise and using that for energy. Yeah. Right. Okay. So protein could be used for energy if you consume enough of it yep yeah if you use if you eat in excess of anything it will your body will turn it into stored energy right but the hard part about keto is it takes a while to get your body

to burn fat it's just not i got no carbs yesterday i'm burning fat all day today no your body will store carbs for days upon days upon day that's where the old carb loading thing for marathoners and things like that came in. And so over the course of a week, two weeks, you get your body into producing ketones. Well, your body uses that for energy. Now, I will say this in the camera. In my opinion, ketogenic diet is not for CrossFit athletes. Okay? There's too much intensity up and back down for that.

I don't think that – now, marathoners, I think it's good. I think you can do that because it's a long, sustained energy source. And you can use fat as a fuel source during those types of exercises. Exactly. Long, slow distance stuff, you can. CrossFitters, I'm not a huge fan of it. Burning too many sugars. Exactly. But you had to figure that out.

This is what works for you because you figured it out after trying, you know, eating rice and then taking it out. How long did that take? The ketogenic stuff? Just like learning really little. You know what? Honestly, it took probably two years for me to sit there and go okay i'm 36 turned 36 last week this is what works for me yeah and here's the guy the guy that got me to doing this who is a i talked to him for 30 minutes this morning one of my best friends in the world was

brian mckenzie brian mckenzie has done an amazing job at using his self as an experiment he does it with his food he does his workouts dude's on the cutting edge of everything. I mean, he's on the cutting edge of breathing. He's got this guy, I think it's Iceland, Wim Hof,

that he is talking about breathing and all this kind of stuff and getting an eye. I mean, nobody's doing that. This dude is innovative and I learned that from him. He said,

you've got to use yourself as an experiment. Here's the thing. I don't recommend anything that I don't, to people, that I haven't done myself and so i feel like that as a as a guy that's giving advice on giving an opinion excuse me

on things i gotta experiment i have to experiment experiment with those things and so i've experimented with high carb i got a buddy and he wanted me to do like 300 grams of carbs a day i'm sitting there like at nine o'clock at night and I've got like, I call him, I'm like, bro, I got 70 grams of carbs left and I can't freaking eat anymore. He's like, oh, you just got to do it. No, I don't have to do it. I didn't feel good. It's about feeling good. I'm more of the thought process of some people are going to totally disagree with me and rip me, but I really don't care. Eat when you're hungry. Yeah. Yeah. I am not a fan of eat six times a day. Yeah.

There's bodybuilders and fitness people out there that got to eat and all that stuff. Now, if you're a competitive CrossFit athlete, you need your fuel and you're working out three times a day. It's different. Yeah. But if you're the normal person, which is 99.9% of the human race. Yeah. Eat when you're hungry.

Don't eat because it says noon. Right. Yeah. If it's noon and you're not hungry, don't eat. Yeah. You know? Even Chris Spieler says that. I mean, he has super-venom.

Exactly. Yeah. Huge in nutrition. So that's just my opinion, and it has. It's taken me a while to experiment with the high-carb and the paleo. You know what? I am not strict paleo all the time. I think it's great.

I'm not a huge zone guy. I have a zone plan on our website that we do. I'm not a huge zone guy. I think it's very, very intimidating for people to do all this. Way to measure. Yeah. Bro. Yeah.

It's a tough starting point. That's a tough starting point. It's like getting somebody to run or swim before they can walk. Exactly. I'm not a huge zone guy either. How much do you work out? What's your training? 35, 40 minutes a day.

Okay. Every day. So I take a day off. Live long and prosper is your plan. Move. It's like, you know, I have a lot of people around me in this fitness industry, and I think you need to do two things. Lift something heavy. Get out of breath. It's not mine. It's Rich's. people around me in this fitness industry and i think you need to do two things lift something

heavy get out of breath yeah it's not mine that's rich's rich talks about that all the time lift something heavy and get out of breath if you can do that you'll be fine i think the lifting heavy for me is is something that helps change me physically and the getting out of breath is something that gives me energy yeah i love i've ran four marathons back before my CrossFit days. I forgot you did that. Yeah, dude. I got down to 185 – 193 and was running marathons. I ran a 346 marathon. That's fast.

And so I love – For a big boy. I love running. For a football player. But I'm not going to do it all the time. You know, I lift heavy on Mondays. I lift heavy on Wednesdays. I try to lift heavy one day or the Friday of the weekend. And I do it in some do all the time. I lift heavy on Mondays. I lift heavy on Wednesdays. I try to lift heavy one day or the Friday of the weekend,

and I do it in some form of moving around. I'm a huge fan of the every minute on the minute or every two minutes or every three minutes doing something because it's the built-in push. I work out by myself. Like I said, I'm done every day before 6. With that, it saves you time. Once you start the clock, your workout's done.

It's pretty much done. You're just on autopilot. Yep, I agree. You're going to roll through it. Very cool, very cool. Thomas, I mean, awesome, man. I love the questions. I like the things that we challenged.

I hope people take a lot from it, especially in terms of helping. If you've got family that's kind of hard-headed and you want to help them a little bit, and I'm not saying push your views on them, but you want to help them. The biggest challenge with saving money, like can you actually save money and still eat healthy? And then if you've got a family that you're trying to change the way they eat along with yourself, you know, we gave some good examples and some takeaways. Yeah.

A lot of nuggets. Yeah. A lot of nuggets out of this. Anything else you want to add to those points? I think one of the things we – talking about kids because, like I said, we've got three kids. Kids are our future. I mean, you don't have kids yet.

You will one day. You and Brandy will have kids. I think the biggest thing you can do is make sure you're monitoring what they're consuming. We're an information society, and I'll give you a really, really good example. So we don't watch much TV. We've got like five channels. We don't even have cable.

We've got like analog or whatever. And so we've got like five channels. One of the channels we have, and one of the things we would watch on occasion is American Ninja Warrior. Oh, nice. Okay, it's active. It's fun.

It's cool. There's fit people everywhere. So we're going to the grocery store one day. This is just an example of how powerful the things that we consume are. Studies show that kids start recognizing ads at age three, and I believe it. Kids are playing with iPhones at two. So at six years old, we're walking to the grocery store, me and my four-year-old and my six-year-old,

three-year-old, three at a time, and six. We're walking through there, and my me and my four-year-old and my six-year-old, three-year-old, three at a time and six, were walking through there. And my daughter sees a bottle of Palm Wonderful. What is Palm Wonderful? Pomegranate juice. Pomegranate juice. Okay. She goes, Daddy, Daddy, I want some of that.

I want some of that. I was like, babe, what is that? She's like, I don't know. I said, well, why do you want it? I want it, though. I said, well, why do you want it though i said well why do you want it she said because it's on american ninja warrior uh because palm wonderful was yeah the sponsor right and every five minutes they're like oh the palm wonderful so and so you know the power of marketing the power of marketing so be sure and it's hard be sure you're monitoring

what your kids are are taking in their little eyeballs because it's so powerful and it's hard be sure you're monitoring what your kids are are taking in their little eyeballs because it's so powerful and here's the thing the gloves are off these days with what is is that darren yeah hey the gloves are off these days as far as restrictions are concerned on advertising and so because especially with the internet age right the youtube has become our new tv right and so you gotta be really careful about what you let your kids get to see. Interesting. Good point. Yeah. Very helpful. Where can people find you? Millfit.co, not.com. I get that all the time. There's a guy in California that owns.com. If you happen to be watching this guy that owns.com, please let me buy it. I would love to buy

it from you. I talked to the guy one time, and he said, I'll get back to you. He never got back to me. Millfit.please. Yeah, exactly. Millfit.co. We do meal plans. We have a gym package that we do that's really, really good. We've got a lot of different things.

And if you're local, we've got catering and different things that we do. Yeah, tell us about it. So the newest thing we've got is Millfit Gym. So I work at a gym, and one of the number one questions I get is, you've got two groups of people at a gym and you've all worked at a gym so you know you've got the one guy or girl that walks in and they want to know everything you tell them to go google something they're gonna go google it and they're gonna learn it that's me you got then you've got the other guy or the girl that's like you know what just tell me what to eat yeah i got time for that yeah okay so there's two different groups of people with mill fit gym what we're doing is i want to because what happens when you work there

is you get trapped by the guy that wants to know everything right or the girl that wants to get you to write down everything for them and so what we've done with mill fit gym is just it's a super small subscription that gives them 75 off our meal plan that we send out every week and it gives them a grocery list exactly what to eat and here's the thing it's not something that's super extravagant they're not gonna be our our thought process is for busy people which is everybody right yeah our thought process is for busy people you've got a competitor that wants to go deeper we can do that obviously it would be a little bit more time but we have a milk you go to website, milfit.co and go to Milfit Gym.

It's a subscription that gym owner buys that after that, their gym, their members get the subscription for like dirt cheap. That's really cool. Also,

if you use the gym owner, you get a percentage of that back. So it's 10 bucks a month for the member. I give you two bucks back every month. And these are bulk meals.

So like you can make in big, big quantities and then eat throughout the week where you save you time. Correct. They're for families more than they are the individual. Yeah.

Now, because the individuals that call me are like, hey, you got an individual plan? I'm like, no, we don't. But here's what we can do. We can take three of these five recipes and make them so you can eat them all week. What if you eat as much as a family? If you eat as much as a family and it's perfect for you. I love the bulk cooking hacks and things like that anything i can find that's made in bulk i'm a huge fan of um like

because i like to make the meats in bulk the veggies kind of i just throw in as you go because i don't like cooking those and eating them throughout the week they just don't stay that well and then lots of rice yeah do you uh do you teach anybody how to maybe prepare meals quickly? Yes. A lot of what we do is the cooking hack thing. For example, this next week coming up, we've got two recipes that have cauliflower rice. So what we need to do is you take your cauliflower, you take the head of the cauliflower that you buy, you smash it on the table.

After you smash it on the table, it? After you smash it on the table, it disintegrates, not disintegrates, but it breaks it up into chunks instead of having to take your knife out, cut the bottom off, and chop it up. So, yeah.

That little stuff would have saved me probably four hours of my life up to this point. So you take the cauliflower. I'm going to hit the table with CTP. You take the cauliflower and you show this. Bam!

And you just hit it on there. And what happens is the stem breaks off and you literally just hold it and dump it out. You throw it in the food processor and you've got rice. After that, you throw it in a pan. Whatever seasoning you want. Cauliflower you can make just about tastes like anything, just like rice. It doesn't have a taste. Exactly.

So I tell people, hey, take three heads of cauliflower and do that. If you leave it raw in the fridge, it doesn't go bad in a week. So if it's raw, you pop it out, put it in a skillet, and you make it, and you've got it. Yeah, yeah. That's the stuff you learn when you have to cook. Newbie things like that are like game-changing. Oh, yeah.

And like the way we make like real rice, it's a game-changer because rice, you've got to sit there, the timer, and you've got to turn it, take the top off. No, we do it in a way that is so easy. And then what we also started doing, Alex, is we started making these quick videos, 45, 55-second videos. They're super fast motion that you can see what they are, click a button, you get the recipe, and it's easy.

Because here's the thing a lot of times a lot of people are intimidated by following a recipe yeah yeah if they see a video they'll do it because we've got a lot of videos on our youtube page yeah so if you want to our meal fit youtube page has got a lot of stuff on there like our cauliflower pizza it's got the recipe on there we got a lot of different things like that just where i walk you through how to do things we're also doing these really short videos because people's attention spans are very, very short. So we're trying to keep those things under a minute so that you can see it, click it, get the recipe, and then make it. Very cool.

So we just named a lot of resources to find Milford.co. And what's the best social media place? Is it Instagram? Or YouTube? Yeah, or YouTube channel. Instagram is where we're at most. But, I mean, I tell you what, the fastest response is Facebook. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, people, you know, all these new marketing guys are like, Facebook's dead. Facebook is not dead. There's like a billion people on there. And I communicate that way a lot. But you can get me through the website, millfit.co. We've got all the social media, all the contact forms, all the information on there. And we're fixing to upgrade our website, too, so we've got some new social media all the contact forms all the information on there

and we're fixing to upgrade our website too so we've got some new things coming on there too very cool guys anything else you want to add nah

man thank you again Thomas thank you Thomas appreciate it yep great message and I hope hopefully everyone takes a lot from it awesome

I certainly have yeah it's a great great interview appreciate it guys thanks see ya