Barbell Shrugged - Hunter Elam - National Champion - The Barbell Life

Episode Date: September 15, 2019

Hunter Elam is a fixture of our onsite Mash Mafia team. She has matured so much in her time at Mash Elite. And recently she has made incredible progress. I predict amazing things are in store for her. So what made the difference? How did she gain by leaps and bounds over the last few months? That’s what we talk about today on this podcast. We get into recent changes in her program, diagnosing weaknesses, being a queen of the mundane… and huge predictions for the upcoming AO3. In this episode: Questioning your coach AO3 predictions Why weightlifting is mentally tougher than other sports Missing in warmups and then crushing lifts The biggest change to her program recently and more… Hunter Elam on Instagram Travis Mash on Instagram Please Support Our Sponsors Savage Barbell Apparel - Save 25% on your first order using the code “BARLIFE” Organifi - Save 20% using code: “Shrugged” at organifi.com/shrugged Join the One Ton Challenge  Registration is LIVE 12 Month Strength training program to increase your snatch, clean, jerk, squat, dead, bench.  Add them up to find your One Ton Total.  The goal is 2,000 pounds for men and 1,200 for women.  http://onetonchallenge.com/join “What is the One Ton Challenge” “How Strong is Strong Enough” “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge”

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You can be part of the online MASH Mafia team, where you'll get customized programming, technique analysis, and the personal touch of the best coaching in the world. Now, you can learn more about that at mashelite.com slash join. And we're also really excited to remind you about our new guide we just released called Pulling Science. It's all about what the science really says about the clean pull, the conventional deadlift, and the sumo deadlift. Now it is packed with information on anatomy and biomechanics so that you can dial in the perfect technique and programming for you.

You can learn more about that at mashelite.com slash pulling science. That's mashelite.com slash pulling science. And now I'm Lauren Penelis joined by Crystal McCullough and Travis mash. As we talk with Hunter Elam. Welcome back to the show guys. Today, we're going to start a series of introducing all of you to our lifters that are on our team.

I mean, a lot of, you know, as far as seeing their videos, but now I want you to really know them, you know, know what is behind them, what they do, what makes them good, what they need to work on, and hopefully you can maybe learn from them and apply it to your own life. Today, we have who I consider, you know, you guys have heard me talk about being the master of the mundane, meaning doing the little things.

Today, I have the queen of master of the mundane, Hunter doing the little things. Today I have the queen of master of the mundane, Hunter Elam. Welcome to the show. Hey, guys. The mistress of the mundane. The mistress? Yeah, that's the feminine version of master. I kind of like queen.

Kind of like queen of the mundane. Queen of the mundane. I did call her queen one time. I like queen. Makes me feel good. There you go. I put her on. Queen of the mundane.

Queen hunter. The story. I saw that. I put queen. Yeah, it looked good. And then somebody like, because Hunter helps me with Instagram, FYI. And somebody asked me, did Hunter say that about herself? Yes.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would. It's going to be pretty funny. It's going to be like the theme from now on. And of course, we have Lauren, the guy with the awesome boys. Push the buttons. Yep. Asking questions.

Miss Crystal, as always. We're all here but today's gonna be cool i'm excited to you know introduce you all to her because she's awesome to know hunter elam so let's let's do this um for those who aren't familiar with all the various members of the mash mafia for those who aren't familiar with queen hunter what's the what's the what's the cliff notes version of you hunter um just like the overall summary yeah if you were like in an elevator with someone and you had to explain who i wouldn't talk if i was in an elevator with someone that's just if you had that much time um okay so um i would

say she's definitely high maintenance as for oh okay you want me to just yeah i am very high maintenance yeah i am uh i'm particular i guess um she said the other day about her mom being a mama's i'm like every day i i catch myself just saying like god i am my like the daughter of my mom like i'm just like her i'm turning into her every day even little things like i'm obsessed with like candles i know that sounds weird but when i was young like my brother and i would buy her candles we would buy her candles every year well this is just like me first like everything and i was like oh she just wants candles but now everyone's like so what do you want my candles get me candles like really everything you burn them like all the time like seven at a time like all day and i don't keep

them like burning when i'm there because like I could burn my place down and my little animals are in it. That's what I was about to say. But yeah, normally when I'm there, there's always candles burning like all the time. But that's not really like, you guys don't want to hear about me talk about candles. But you know.

There's probably three people out there listening. This is so her though. Yeah, I don't know. You're going to start getting shipments of candles to your your door by all those dudes who send their dms left and right yeah that's weird yeah um but no yeah i know i'm super like particular like here you're kind of talking about like mastering the mundane and stuff yeah um i think that i do well with that because um like it's like every little thing i like to be like perfect which has, like, every little thing, I like to be, like, perfect, which has its, like, perks, and it also has its, like, downs.

Sometimes it can be, like, too much to where, like, I get super overwhelmed with the simplest of things, so I kind of have to, like, kind of take a step back sometimes and, like, tell myself, like, hey, this is super small in the, like, grand scheme of things that, like, it's going to be okay, which I think is like, which this has been like a work in progress. If you would have asked me a year ago, I was just stressed out all the time about everything.

And I don't know, I just, it's been a work in progress. And I think a lot of times that just comes with experience. It really does. And growing up, not that I'm like, I'm 23 and I just turned 23 like two days ago, a day ago. I don't know.

Yeah, it's happy birthday. So it's not even like I'm like just super wise and know everything now. It's just, it really, it really does like, you kind of just. When you have so much wrong and you still make progress. Yeah. And then later you're kind of like, well, I did it. I did it before. I messed up this stuff before.

Like I've made progress. Like it's going to be okay now. Like, you know. Yeah. But you're older in the sport too. it's going to be okay now. Like, you know? Yeah. But you're older in the sport, too. When you came to us, when you were a baby in the sport. It was two years ago. Yeah. I had no idea what I was doing.

I often, I just actually, remember I, like, tagged you in that post when I came down to visit? Oh, yeah. August of, like, 2016. Our movement was rough. Oh, my gosh. And, like, at the time, like, you're great. Like, wherever you are at your point of training, like at the time like in you're great like wherever you are at your point of training like that's just where you're at and that's where you're gonna be and there's always room for improvement but like looking back it was a bold move for me to like

move here and kind of drop like i kind of dropped my like entire life my ask my mom she was like i was about to start nursing school i was a week a literal oh yeah away from starting nursing school um and i called my mom and i was like hey i really i just did like the oklahoma state weightlifting championship and like won it and broke all these records which like it was i snatched 83 and i clean and jerked 103 which is what most women would love to do at the end of their career. Yeah, I would love to do that. That was my first competition.

And people were like, oh, my gosh, like, you're amazing. You're so good. I'm like, oh, yeah, like, I'm amazing. I'm so good. Like, yeah, I am. And then, so I'm like, you know what? Like, I'm going to do this whole weightlifting thing. Like, I'm an athlete.

I've been an athlete my whole life. And so I'm like, hey, mom, like, there's this place in North Carolina. And I don't know. I think I'm going to, like, try to lift full time. And she was just, like, I thought she threw up. Her head's been around, like, ten times. She was like, no, you're not. Like, la, la, la, la, la.

Like, you can't do this. And I was like, no, I think I'm going to do it. So finally, like. I're not like like you can't do this and i was like no i think i'm gonna do it so finally i'm not sure imagine being a parent oh yeah and at the time like i i had done crossfit for like a year so i was just doing crossfit so she doesn't know like she thinks i'm just doing this like crossfit stuff which everyone's doing and like she's like you're really not that good at it like i'll just be honest like yeah like you're not like um so i was like no mom it's not just crossfit it's it's olympic weightlifting like i'm going to the olympics like she was okay uh we'll see she came and like watched a competition and after that she was like you know what like i'm not going to be the one that tells you no you can go to school when you're 55 if you want.

Like, you can go whenever. That's always going to be there. Like, this is not going to be there. I mean, it took her time to come around to that. Like, I think she kind of had to, like. She had to burn. Yeah. I mean, if Rock told me the same thing, I'd freak out.

Oh, yeah. I'm a coach. Yeah. But if he said, hey, I'm going to Cal Strength to have a heart attack, number one, I'd be mad. But then, number two, I'd be like, I'd have a heart attack. I'd be like, you know, I'm waiting to be a doctor have a heart attack number one I'd be mad but then number two I'd be like I'd have a heart attack I'm waiting to be a doctor not a weightlifter

it's a hard road so she just kind of supported me there I mean she moved me here both my parents Kip and my mom they kind of moved me up here and left me and I don't know I've been I've been Travis's problem ever since.

They're very cool, though, by the way. Their parents are my faves. Yeah. Yeah. They're definitely my number one fans. They're my hangout. I've had Instagram people, but you guys don't even. No one will ever support me more than my.

No, that's cool. Of course not. Oh, yeah. They're fangirls for sure. I'd say this. As a coach her the person that she is i told her just the other day i wish i had a gym filled with them like yeah she's like very you know sometimes it drives her crazy because she wants every lift to be perfect you

know and now what we're doing that that's a good thing you know at first it was driving her crazy but now i feel like she's getting better and better at just relaxing, understanding the process, understanding that days like that happen. Because now, like a day or two ago, was like the first not-so-great day she had. And when I told her just to move on, she was like, okay. Whereas she would have freaked out maybe a few weeks ago on me. Yeah, I was just thinking about that the other day. And it drives me crazy, but I know it drives you crazy too, Trev.

No, it's been my favorite project. She's definitely a project. But now she does everything right. You know, we have her nutrition is perfect. Her stretching is perfect. Her warm-up is perfect. Her training is perfect. She does not skip anything unless she says, hey, can I try this?

And I'm always like, yes. But she does everything by the book unless she questions. And then she'll ask me. Her and Jordan Control are the two best. If they have a question about the program, they will ask me. And if I think what they're saying makes sense, we will switch it. Communication, guys, if you're an athlete, your communication with your coach is the most important thing you can have and like and if your coach is not approachable then

you should get a different coach like what's the question the most recent question she's had well oh yeah um yesterday she you know it was supposed to be like no no um no feet snatched from a deficit and she wanted to go from the floor because i feel like you know it becomes too much of a the conjugate method messes her up sometimes at least in her head and if it's in her head it doesn't matter what i think but perception is reality and so like i'm feeling i'm guessing she didn't really you know she just said can i do this and i'm like sure but i'm assuming it's because she thinks it messes her up with the real that's exactly why because i have no i've snatched from the today, but if I just pulled from a deficit

yesterday, they're going to feel all wonky. They're not going to be like the crisp. I need them. Is that deficit? The end all? No. So like what is the end all? It's her brain feeling confident in what she's about to do today.

And so, yeah, that's awesome. So we're going to talk about the AO3 coming up. You were, we were briefly talking before we hit record about how that's going to do today and so yeah that's awesome so we're going to talk about the a03 coming up you were we were briefly talking before we hit record about how that's going to be a massive meet one of the most important meets of the whole quad here for the olympics yeah so we'll talk about hunter's game plan for that and what's going down for that but first i mean let's take it back from and we'll announce her weight class just kidding i want to know what's the difference between the hunter today and the hunter a year ago? What are you doing differently that you had that brain switch to where everything's just smooth? What's the whole journey?

Okay, let's see. What are you doing differently? I will say that, and I know it's only been a couple years and stuff, but even 20 to 23 or 21 to 23 age-wise like I feel like there's just a lot that happens between those years I guess and I can only assume that it's even more from 23 to 26 it never slows it never stops um so I think that's been like a like a big thing it's just just growing up in general um but I didn't I knew but I've been an athlete my whole life so i know that like you have to put in the time you have to put in the work um but out of every sport i've played and i played soccer

basketball volleyball i ran track i've done pretty good at soccer too she doesn't yeah soccer was my like my main my main sport um but i i did so many but none of them i had to put in the time that i do with like weightlifting weightlifting is not only a physical sport but it's also very much so a mental sport so you're not you can't just be like good at like i don't know you can't just be an athlete it definitely helps be an athlete but you have to have like the mental strength and 100 like everything oh yeah tenacity I think is a huge thing yeah so whenever I I mean whenever I visited here and even when I first moved here like I wasn't I mean I would come in one I was eating not good like I would just eat whatever I wanted but I was hanging out with Nathan Dameron and Tom Suma and Dylan Cooper.

And they ate just. Miyabi. Oh yeah. Yeah. I think when you guys stopped eating there, they closed. Yeah, they did.

They did. It's really sad. Literally we stopped going there and they shut down a month later. Yeah. Um, so my nutrition was not, not there, but at the time,

like I didn't even care. I didn't think that it was that big of a at the time, like I didn't even care. I didn't think that it was that big of a deal. Um, and I wouldn't, I wasn't stretching at all. I would come in and, you know, do whatever I had programmed for that day and just kind of, that was enough. You know, I did the program, you know, um, my sleep, I would stay up till about four in the morning and just binge watch, like, just any kind of documentary or any kind of thing on Netflix, just anything. I would stay up till four. I would sleep like three hours, wake up in the morning, take a nap, wake back up, eat, go to train. Like, it was just, nothing was consistent in my life at all nothing I did was consistent um and I like I'm not I wasn't even like OCD then like it even showed outside of the gym like my

life I guess like I just wasn't wasn't particular about things like I am now so I think a lot of it was just like growing up and realizing like hey if this is like I moved here to do this I obviously I'm not doing enough um but to be completely honest like this switch happened for me maybe eight months ago like it was not that you know long ago it really is kind of recent where i feel like i'm blossoming into like who i want to be i don't like that term but i i mean it's accurate yeah whether or not it yeah yeah it's accurate so i think a lot of it's just kind of like figuring out who I am, like as a person who I want to be, like who I want to influence, how I want to influence people.

But I can't do that, like those things without like kind of like doing them myself. You know what I mean? Like practice what you preach. So I know I want to lead by example and like. She does all that. Yeah. And whereas like a year ago like i did not care like i didn't care if like i was a good influencer or if like people looked up to me or anything like

that i was just kind of like no i'm doing my own thing like i'm good like uh but i really i wasn't did you realize at that point that there were people out there that were looking to you no i really didn't to you yeah no um i'm not very like even to this day i'm still kind of like no me like i am not this like i'm not this person that people look up to like that's crazy but i'm realizing more and more that i am like hannah for instance 14 year old she's on our team. She got me a birthday card and it was the sweetest thing ever. And she kind of handed it to me and the card basically was like, you have made me feel welcome from day one. Like I really appreciate you.

Thank you for kind of like taking me into your wing. And like at that time, like I would never looked at Hannah and think that, but like that girl watches me every single day when I'm doing. So even when I'm having like bad days, which like, I do have attitudes and stuff like that, but like that girl watches me every single day when I'm doing. So even when I'm having like bad days, which like I do have attitudes and stuff like that, but like, I don't know. They've gotten so much better. They've gotten a lot better. But I kind of will look across the room and I just kind of see like this girl's like looking

at me like I cannot act like a fool because like I have someone literally looking up to me and like watching what I'm doing. Yeah, and you know what they've emulated. Yeah, and it's not just her. There's several people, like, on even, like, Instagram who will just kind of shoot me a random message. Like, hey, I just want, I don't even know if you read these, but, like, thank you for, like, inspiring me and stuff. So there's just people constantly watching me. And I'm realizing that more now than I did then.

So that's been a big kind of game changer as well well I think we're starting to get more girls in the gym too younger girls like we had just all boys and yeah you know now we've got like Lilla and Cam and like more girls we've got two more girls that have just come in recently youth athletes and it it makes a difference oh yeah she's a pleasure too like we're starting to understand each other like the other day she was in a grumpy mood for certain reasons and like you know she just now she tells she's she tells me she's like she's like give me like take it easy on me today and like i get it you know so then i'll just give her a cure too and i normally stay on the other side

of the room and then there's days where we're on it like you know like we're working on little things and we're going at it and you know so but we communicate really well i just wish all my athletes would communicate like that and tell me like what you're feeling what you're thinking you know you know the cool thing too like i wish to like she every single day she gets here first she leaves last she gets her first to do her warm-up she's doing everything she can take care of her back, her little nagging issues that are going to happen. If you lift hard enough to try to get to the Olympics,

things are going to happen. Knees are going to hurt. Things are going to hurt. She dresses it first. She does her workout. She does her accessory movements, her work capacity. Then she goes into our yoga room, and she spends forever doing her stretching and mobility.

It's just, gosh, the whole reason I want her on the show is to hear. I want all of my athletes to hear what she does. Yeah, what's an idea of that? Because you've talked a lot about the mental journey that you've gone through and how you've established now this pattern of discipline. But how does that play out? What do you do? What does your nutrition look like now?

Just like Travis was saying, your work capacity, work work your warm-up mobility all that stuff like kind of like a day in the life yeah exactly lay it out um so i don't actually have this super extravagant life like uh but i kind of wake up and um i actually stretch right when I wake up. I do. That's awesome. Yeah, you kind of get stiff sleeping and stuff like that. So also it kind of takes me a little bit of the morning to kind of get around. I don't really drink coffee when I wake up. I only drink caffeine. I mean, I'm drinking some now because I wanted to be chatty for this podcast.

It's working. It's good. It's the only time I drink coffee. Otherwise, I'll just drink caffeine pre-workout at the gym and then not at all throughout the day. So anyway, it's a good thing to wake up and kind of get my body awake and kind of just move it around. So I do like 20 minutes of just basically what I do to warm up for the gym.

I do that like three times a day. So I wake up and then, um, I'll cook breakfast. Um, actually Nathan cooks breakfast. So, um,

he normally makes my food. So, and then I'll eat breakfast. Yeah. And then we'll kind of just hang around until we come to the gym. Like the gym is what we do every day. We don't really do much outside of it anyway. So we go,

yeah, which is fine with me. A lot of people need to do other things, but like I really don't. do much outside of it anyway so we go yeah which is fine with me a lot of people need to do other things but like i really don't um so i'll go yeah i go i get to the gym but yeah so our training normally starts like two i get here at one um sometimes like 115 but anyway around there and then i'll start my warm-up i'll warm up for probably 35 to 40 minutes um and i just kind of do some just stretches my t my pt gives me trav gives me some um or pt's lee howard he's yeah he's awesome yes he's definitely been an asset to us oh yeah um and then I'll kind of start my training and that varies every day, like different,

obviously. Um, it always, um, obviously you'll have a lift. So one day we'll be like more clean and jerk related. So it's like, okay, today's like a clean and jerk day, but I also snatch on those days, but it'll be like a variation. So I might go off blocks if I have like heavy clean and jerk weights. i have accessory work every single day um accessory work i will say has been a huge huge like just game changer in my yeah travis i'm not paying her for this yeah he's really not like it makes a huge difference i mean you just you spend more time on the little things that you don't think matter until you do the accessory work and you're like, oh my God, that, that muscle is there and I need it to be stronger for this like specific reason. Um, so I take my accessory work very seriously.

Um, and then, yeah, obviously stretching afterwards. I actually had a question like, uh uh how do you do like injury prevention and like stuff like that i really will say like stretching goes a very long way just before and after um like i was telling chris the other day i was like oh my gosh like i stretch every day after my training my body feels so much better and it does like my knees don't hurt as bad my my back doesn't hurt as bad um so i mean i just make sure and do all of that i roll out after training and stuff like that um yeah and then i just kind of leave here i go and i eat i walk my dog every day his name's ollie all of you guys like probably already seen him know him so i walk

my dog and i go back and i normally stretch after that and then i eat dinner and then i get in bed that's really i love it that's really it it's not anything crazy it's not so how many hours a day would you say that you dedicate at some whether it's stretching or warming up or cooling down or that is related to what you want to achieve in weightlifting oh it's literally like an all-day process like i'm constantly thinking like and sometimes i'm like i'm so selfish but like i'll have people like our my friend or december she's on her team um december garcia i feel terrible but i mean she's my friend and she understands but like she'll message she had messaged me and she had went home and she was like hey can you pick me

up from the airport in Raleigh at midnight I go to bed at like 10 and I was like hey like I'm really sorry I have a pretty big day the next day as far like we had a big training day or something like that scheduled yeah it was like a it was a friday right yeah and so i wouldn't have been home until like 3 30 and then i had a pt appointment that morning so i would have only slept four hours no so i was like hey i'm sorry this really like interferes and affects so that's been a huge thing for me as well because i don't i'm a huge people pleaser i don don't like being like, like I hate telling people no, basically. Um,

but I've kind of had to like swallow that and like really just get kind of stirred. And like, I feel like I'm being mean, but people kind of like understand. So I just, I've had to tell people no, like several times.

They're like, Hey, do you want to come hang out? And I'm like, no, sorry. Like I have to eat at that time. Like,

or something like that but you know in this moment you have the ability to be selfish yeah yeah you don't have to you don't you don't have to work at a job you don't have to do all these other things you can focus on this and i commend you on that yeah yeah that's that's kind of what i came to realize yeah like i would you know um like being selfish but I like calling it being professional It's like I like that doing what she has to do because she's definitely not selfish She helps me with a lot of things and she's so kind to the boys and the people in the gym So like, you know, it's just being a professional like when you say someone notice somebody it's not you being you know

Self-centered it's just like, you know, my job is this like I pay I pay her, you know self-centered it's just like you know my job is this like i pay i pay her you know so like you know travis is paying me to do this so like my job is this so she's really doing a job yeah it's my job like yeah you're dang right it's her job yeah nobody else like if you're working at like a like a nine to five and someone asks you to hang out three like you can't you're at your job right and my job is not just in the gym it's also out of the gym dang right so if you're undisciplined with your time like everyone else will easily tell you what to do with it oh yeah and i and i'm one of those people that will do like anything for about anyone um so some people like i noticed like they can kind of start like walking all over me because they just know i'm gonna do it and like i think that's recently changed and so

yeah if i say if i'm like no they're like oh wait what like no well and they kind of get like hateful and i'm like well you didn't really respect me in the first place then like you just knew i would say yeah so she's not i mean like she's she's gone above and beyond to help don you know everyone listening i'm sure by now knows on coach mccauley he's very sick he's dealing with heart disease and cancer but she helps him more than anyone so like you know but it's like but coach don understands it's going to fit within her time constraints that she has and so that that's all. Oh, yeah. If Don said come at one in the morning, you know, to help me pack my house, he'd be like, I can't. And he'd get it, you know.

Well, it was funny because when Don was asking yesterday, he was like, after training, of course. Yes. Yeah. He sent a message to come help and he was like, oh, but everybody waits until after training. Yeah. Yeah.

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basically it's just like macros and stuff, but she kind of helps me with that. And then I actually switched programs. When I first moved here, I kind of needed to learn kind of how to lift and stuff like that, and I didn't really know the whole scheme of things. So we have two coaches. We have Travis and we have Dawn. Both are great um when i first moved here i was on a don program for about a year about a year yeah about a year um which i got tremendously better than what i was when i first came here um this little baby that like had no idea what she was doing, but she had high hopes for herself. Um,

and then, so I finally, I reached out to Travis. Um, I don't know. Not even like maybe six months ago. Yeah. Six months ago. It's been pretty recent.

Yeah. And I was like, Hey, um, what you got, what you got for me? Basically. Let's do this.

Yeah. Let's do this. Um, cause we had just found out what we, something needed to happen. Um, Oh, it was the Olympic. We found out the numbers for the Olympics and how there's going to be different weight classes and how this is the quad is starting now, 2018.

It needs to happen. Basically, we were like, hey, it's go time. Now is go time. We, now is go time. We don't have any time to, like, I don't know. Can't say next year anymore. Because it won't. That time will be gone. So, basically, Travis was like, you need to get right.

Yeah. And here's. We only have, like, you know, for the next two years, you got to make X amount of international teams. And so, like, if you wait next year, you know, you might be too late, you know?

So it's not like whoever makes the world championships this year is the only ones, but they have the advantage because they're already got one. And there's different levels like, you know, like Pan Ams and like the world championships are like gold. I think, you know,

without looking so like, you know, so when you give her those big ones, it's a bigger, it counts more towards your points. So it's time to go. Can't talk about next year anymore. Yeah, so basically we came to that realization, and it's been just kind of head down, just going ever since then. Everything since then.

Yeah, I hadn't PR'd. I snatched 100. It ended up being like a four kilo PR but before that it had been over a year since I which I know sounds like it happens you know people go three years and they don't like that it does it's awful but I mean it does happen um i would say this though let me interject one thing is like if you haven't pr'd in a year and you're continuing to do the exact same thing now that's not smart yeah you need to switch it up and figure out why you're not pr'd but continue to do the same thing expecting different results we all know the cliche it's insanity so which is true yeah so i mean i just kind of made a switch

in what i was doing and um wow i mean i really kind of made a just a huge improvement like i i can look at videos instagram's great because you get to go back oh yeah look at but i'll look and i my movement is so different like i don't'm, like, unrecognizable to myself. I'll look at him and be like, oh, Travis, like, why? Why did you let me, one, lift that way? And two, like, I don't move like that. I don't get it. Why would you ever?

Yeah. I don't know. So when someone's working with Don, you know, I'm going to out of respect for him. I don't want, you know, if he's not around or something, I'm definitely going to coach. They're all my athletes, but, like, you know, I don't want Don says something and then I say something and it gets confusing. So, like, when someone's working with him, like, Nathan works with Don and doing a great job, you know, so I don't, like,

mostly what I do for Nathan is cheer him on and be like, let's go. But, you know, like, I'm more of his, you know, hype man, you know. But then when they work with me, then I'm going to be the one that says the most and they're going to listen to the things I say. What were some of the biggest changes in the programming? Let me think about this for a second. Was just some of the accessory work?

Yeah, oh, Travis has way more. Way more accessory work. I'll spend three and a half hours from start to finish on just working out. And about an hour of that's just accessory. So, I mean, there's more. I'm doing more than I was before. Um, and I think that I just got stronger in positions, I guess was my biggest thing. Cause the thing, yeah, the thing that I noticed, um, the most between my lifts and stuff is

just, um, like my strength in certain positions, stability my stability and stuff so all the and i think a lot of that's the accessory work is really where it's paid off um it's not it wasn't the lifts wasn't the it's not just snatching clean and jerk it was the stuff that i did like out after that really made those positions stronger which just go hand in hand with your lifts. So obviously you're getting stronger in positions. Your lifts are going to get stronger. You're going to become a better weightlifter. It all kind of just goes hand in hand. And I think that's really what paid off for me.

We found out, not found out, but we were like, oh, like obviously I have strong legs. Like people know my legs are strong. I would always look at myself and be like, I have beefy shoulders. They're strong. My overhead's fine. Travis made me do a snatch grip. Behind the neck, just strict press. Just strict press, snatch grip.

I did the bar, basically. I knew there was a weakness. He looked at me and his jaw just dropped. He was like, well, now we know. And I've been working that weakness for weeks now. It's become so much better. It's like beautiful. Yeah.

So I think that just like overall just doing a little more, I guess. That's an important thing to point out is like, you know, certain things when athletes are having the same miss It's either one technical or two weakness It just is and like we had teched her up one side and down the other Especially on the jerk and the snatch, you know, she's good at everything. She was already but now we're talking about being the best in the country So now it's those little things but I was like, you know She wouldn't hit it and the live would be perfect and she would still miss it and it was plenty hide on the bar so I'm

like it's gotta be weakness same thing with the jerk and so sure enough when we did that I'm like man yes she's just was it she had still like beefy shoulders is it just her front delts are maybe stronger and we know like the size of a muscle is not always the determining factor of whether it's strong or not yeah I think that's just I have a hot mom genetics yeah she's cut and she's a bodybuilder and so now we gotta take that take the take that muscle mass and you know make it make it strong neurologically and so i plenty of times example i remember my like my first junior worlds as a power lifter i remember going there and there was a dude the dude

who i i was least worried about is the only guy who beat me at the world he was like this stick and i'm like oh well i don't have to worry about him and he whipped me and i'm like that that told me right there plot twist it's a lot more than just you know it's attachments it's um yeah neurological preparedness like is her muscle like does it know what it's doing? Is it, I don't know, what's the word I'm looking for? Properly, receptively prepared. Is it ready in space to be able to stiffen when it needs to stiffen? Was this always a lot of stability work or pressing work? All of them.

Oh, it's been, I mean, you name it, I've probably. You've probably done it i mean it's been yeah presses like um those couple of weeks that you were doing those the lunges in the jerk position yeah it looked awful but it it was it wonders yeah i mean yeah snatch balances, jerk recoveries, axle bar carries in the jerk and snatch grip. I mean. We've blown her up, man. Yeah. We spent four weeks in this block. Four weeks was designed.

One day, we attacked her snatch. That sounded terrible. That did. Oh, God. Another day, we really went after like the cleaning jerk like we had up one side and down the other and like every kind of place i thought she was weak she would do her cleaning jerks and then we would attack those weaknesses and it's really painful i saw a cool exercise today um oh jesse bradley yeah i remember telling

us about you as soon as i saw it i was like oh I feel like I'll be doing that I feel like somebody did that in here I didn't I didn't see it what was it so she did jerk recoveries with the um yoke yeah with the yoke and so like not only do you get the jerk recovery but the yoke is swinging so stability is going to be I even had other ideas like you know lunging with it above your head like it blew me like that was good shout out out to Spencer Arnold, Power and Grace. Our sister team, I think. Yeah, they're awesome over there, I like them a lot. Yeah, it's a sister team because all Spencer has is girls, I have boys.

Get them together, be like the Brady Bunch. Yeah, exactly. Well, so obviously you've made a lot of improvement and now we look forward to the future, talking about AO3. It's a go time now you did mention you know that weight class is kind of an issue you don't need it we're not going to talk about what decisions hunter is making but why are there decisions to be made what what is going on

with the weight classes for those who are you know not following all the saga and why does why does that matter iwf just um gave us the all-new weight classes. Excuse me, I got the hiccups. And so we have to decide up, down. Some of the weight classes are not going to be held in the Olympics. They're not going to be competed with in the Olympics. And so you have to – you can stay in a weight class that won't be competed olympics for about a year but you have to i think it's like um i mean looking at it like two or three you know international meets that are they're in the olympics you have to do those so like you know the last year you need to like be in the weight class you're going to be in so now the strategy is do you stay in a weight class that's not competed

yeah get some points and then get some points then go where you want to go because you know if you're if you're you know naturally in that weight class you got to make a conscious effort to go up and put up you know eat to go up or cut to go down so right now and then you got to think who's going to do what you know who do you feel you know that you can eat who do you who do you think that you need more time and so like everybody no one is really you know giving their weight class at least no one's giving it honestly. I mean. Nobody's showing their cards.

No, I'm not going to show. I'm definitely not going to show our cards. Like, you know, are we going to stay or are we going to go up? We're going to go down. That's, you know, for them to just, you know, to guess with same as I'm having to guess. So, you know, we have our plan and we know what we're going to do, but I don't want anyone else to know. It's cool. It actually makes it fun.

Yeah. Did you just do this like every. It's cool. It actually makes it fun. Yeah. Did you just do this like every two years? I mean, it makes it definitely makes it fun. You got to, you know, we, we, lucky, I'm lucky to have some really good buddies who are amazing, you know, in nutrition, like Lane Norton, my, you know, he's the whiz kid when it comes to nutrition. He's the smartest guy I know in that area.

He was the first person I talked to and he, you know guy i know in that area he was um the first person i talked to and he you know we told him you know here's uh our goals here's how strong she is here's the people gotta compete against here is her body fat here's her weight what should we do you know he was gladly gave me the strategies and made sure we were on the right track and i'm blessed to have those buddies yeah help us he's a good guy yeah and the olympics is coming up now the first meet that will count towards making the olympics is the world championships this end of the year and the ao3 is the final time to you know make that team and so it's already you know there's 1200 people already signed up and it's not to see is it tomorrow today this is the last day tomorrow the 16th yeah so it's also it's not to see is it tomorrow today this is the last day the 60th yeah so it's also it's

already the biggest meet in the history and so uh wow yeah yeah and so you know we gotta go it's the the meet where people are competing for the world championships the youth world championships the senior worlds youth worlds junior worlds all in this one meet so it's like everybody's bringing Championships, the Youth World Championships, the Senior Worlds, Youth Worlds, Junior Worlds, all in this one meet. So it's like everybody's bringing their A games. Bringing the heat. I think this is going to be the most competitive meet in the history of the United States.

Not just big, but we're going to go. Well, the caliber of athletes that are going to be there is going to be so much more different than any of the other AO series that we've seen. Then we've got to wonder, is Kendrick coming out of the closet? For me, with Nathan, I'm thinking, is Kend different than any of the other AO series that we've seen. You know, then we got to wonder, is Kendrick coming out of the closet? You know, for me, with Nathan, I'm thinking, is Kendrick coming out of the closet?

Like, we're going to, not out of the closet, but is he coming back to the... You're just full of the weird... Is he coming back to the platform? Yeah, is he coming back to the platform or not? The ads are like, you know, is Norik coming back? You know, like, I mean, it's going to be exciting. I'm like, I'm ready to go.

I'm more excited for AO3 than any meet I've ever coached at. Oh, really? I have to admit, though, I'm specifically excited for Hunter. It's because of how hard we've prepared, how far we've come. And, like, you know, we have high expectations. You know, still we've got to do it on the platform. But I know this. She's more confident than she's ever been.

And that's what we needed. I needed her, like, like forever i would say as soon as you understand what i already know you're going to be great and hard to be and i feel she's at that point like yeah i was about to say um as far as like me approaching the a03 and looking at the a03 it's definitely the most confident i've been about going into a competition um whereas some competitions before like i know this sounds crazy but i would literally like have like almost panic attacks as they like if i'm like two weeks out i'm like freaking out i'm absolutely losing it i would cry before every competition just because like i didn't feel like i was prepared enough or like i don't know just something you talk yourself out

of stuff like the week of the meet yeah she's ready which is and and then i go back and i look at lifts and how i was moving weight and i would just be like look how strong i look look how strong i was like the only thing that i didn't do was get my head like right before you know what I mean that's it much like Travis would tell me that before and I would always like go home and be like he just he just doesn't understand like he doesn't know he doesn't know like everything whatever and then yeah he knows because I was like I'd even ask I don't know like Nathan or someone who's like in my head case and of course of course, Nathan, no, like you are not. He's like shaking his head.

Yes. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, because like Travis just really thinks it's all mental. But really, I think and then the more I kind of like assess every situation and kind of like look at my lips how how i looked instead of how i thought i felt the more clear to me i was like i'm a head case well that last puzzle piece has been put into place because the mental game so now i'm just like i don't even like i'm just like i don't know she totaled ready friday totaled 208 and she was doing complexes. It's some gnarly complexes, too. Yeah.

And that would have been her PR total a year ago. I mean, it's two kilos less than my actual competition PR total. And she did it with the complexes. And she did it fairly easily. Yeah. Was that the one with the jerks? Yeah, it was the snatch. It was like two pool plus snatch, and then the jerk clean one plus two so and like she did it with did you even miss i mean i know i had one miss

that whole day yeah and it was kind of like a fluke miss it was at that point i was like this girl is like you know i did the same thing it's like another thing like there's so many aspects to coaching weightlifting and it's why i love the sport like people are like why don't you coach powerlifting but i'm like i've always loved i mean i don't hate on my powerlifting brother i mean i love it i was a world champion but there's so many aspects that you can like attack in weightlifting to get better and it just makes it like this endless puzzle that you will never 100 solve you're just trying to get as close as you can and so uh that mental aspect is so hard i remember even when maddie sasser was here and like she would ride with me to the gym and the very first week i would be like you know i think we're gonna do 90 something 120 something and she said come on coach you have to know her

so coach no you know and then she get what the monkey and then she would get closer and closer and then we you know like we broke the snatch first and she's like she came in she's like And then she would get closer and closer. And then we, you know, like we broke the snatch first. And she's like, she came in, she's like, Coach, you were right. I'm like, Manny, I know. Yeah, I know. But like, you know, Hunter has been my latest project. And we have come so far in her being a master of the mundane,

her believing in her, you know in her abilities as an athlete, and then her training has just been beautiful. So I'm ready to go to work. As far as the mental game, what clicked for you? I mean, was it just realizing that you had an issue and then it went away, or have you worked on that mindset part? It's been a work. Definitely something that I've had to work on daily. This isn't like one day i have a bad day

and i work on it that day it's if if i have good days i'm still working on it um i will say like i used to compare myself to the other lifters like regardless of in my weight class or not i would be like oh my gosh like i'm not hitting that number yet or i'm not doing complexes with that number yet like i'm just not good like why am I I'm wasting my time I'm letting down everybody like I moved here to do this thing and I'm not even good at it because I'm not hitting this number that this person is hitting um I stopped doing that like I don't know a few months ago and it's been great like I don't know, a few months ago and it's been great. Like I don't even really pay attention to, I mean, I do like, I have a lot of like lifting friends who are like, like for instance,

like Meredith, I'm really good friends with Meredith. She's been one that like where I used to be like, oh my gosh, like she can jerk this and I'm not even close to being like, she's in my weight class. I can't, but now I look at what i'm doing yeah and what i'm doing well at and i just know that like i'm gonna i'm only capable of doing what i'm going to do so it doesn't even matter what anyone else is doing because like you can't control what they're doing at all like that's completely out of my control i can't go and make someone not hit

a certain like they're gonna do what they're gonna do at the end of the day and i'm gonna do what i'm gonna do so there's no point in sitting around stressing about you know what someone else is doing because there's just nothing you can do about it and the only thing that does is just like bring yourself down and kind of make you know what i mean it's just so i mean as soon as i let that stuff go like huge. I want to give her a standing ovation right now. Yeah. That's huge. Yeah, and that goes for, like, I mean, a lot of people.

Like, I know I'm not the only one that does that. I know that other people do that, and I really will say it's just, like, poison. Like, don't do it. And if you do and you can't stop, like, even unfollow the person. Like, that's not the end of the world. Like, you know, you don't have to, likeollow the person like that's not the end of the world like you know you don't have to like i don't know just obsess obsess over people because like they're gonna do what they're gonna do yeah if it makes you emotional and it's a negative emotion yeah don't go look at it don't see it yeah cut it out you don't need it it's just more baggage that like

this weighs you down i think you know we at the um we did the senior nationals and she but she got her first senior national medal she got bronze and uh i think a lot of stuff clicked into like you know she had um you know she was very inconsistent you know for a while especially at bigger meets yeah there she like you know boom got her first snatch second snatch very close in the third and then she was rolling then we you know got her opening clean and jerk and then um you know we went really big you know we were a lift away and something she was totally capable of for being right in the mix for gold and so i think then she's like i mean i just what i assume that like

right then even i knew i'm like we're right in this thing. It showed her, I think, that she can go with the best. At the time, it was the 69 weight class, and I feel at that moment, it was the most competitive in the country, and she was going head-to-head against the best girls in the country, and she stood her ground, and now, I think she's about to do more than that.

Yeah, I'll even say from that meet, just in particular, I learned even more so like i remember in the back i wasn't even missing um snatches but we wanted to open a little bit higher but like me being me they didn't feel perfect they didn't you know they wanted them i just wanted them to feel perfect and so what travis was like like he said it to me like a week before and i was like hunter if you're in the back and you look at me and you say travis i don't want to open it i think we wanted to open at 95 yeah yeah it was like close to what we ended up with yeah yeah um and he was like if you look at me and you tell me like

you don't he's like i will change it but like please just know that like you are ready you are capable but of course i was in the back and my last attempt was 90 snatched it but it wasn't like you know i didn't just make it look like 75 percent and uh i looked at travis i was like i'm sorry travis but like let's go 93 that's two two kilos less it's not gonna make a huge difference so So I go out there. I smoke 93. I go my Nexus Temp 96. Smoke it even more than 93. So I'm like, I could have easily opened with 95. Stuck to the plan and stuff like that.

Meanwhile, she watched that girl, Kate, miss 93 times in the back. Yeah. She still goes out there. Literally missed it, I think, yeah, like three times. Three times. Went out there and opened with like 97 or something i mean one yeah yeah so i mean that was a learning experience for me too that like things aren't always gonna go perfect and that i need to like learn to let those things go and still stick to the plan and just know that i am capable of these things um which i know that now obviously like you learn from every competition that you do um so but that

that's a lot yeah I'm still new um well I've been lifting for like two years yeah two years now it's been 10 years yeah I made the miss 150 twice before we went out and took 155 at the senior same same competition and he smokes it you know like and gets, and gets 160. And darn near at 63. But, like, he knows it's just a technical thing. He knows because he's been lifting 10 years. He knows what's a technical miss and what's a, you know, I'm not strong enough that. Yeah, Nathan and I are very different when it comes to just, I don't know. He can just kind of, like, shut his brain down and, like, just not.

He won't worry about anything. Like he could be, and this is just like he hasn't actually done this, but like 10 kilos heavy the night before his competition, this isn't like real. He's never been to. But like, and if I were to be like, are you like stressed about making weight? And he'd be like, no, like I'm just going to step on the scale

and make weight. That's it? It's true. that's your game plan he's like yep well you can visibly see him shake it off like he misses the lift he shakes it off and yeah yeah he knows man the dude knows the difference in technical and strength i mean there's been a couple times where you know that we've learned each other too where you know he looked at me and he was like like and then i know i know now going forward when he's like that i'm definitely dropping because if he doubts at all

there's a reason he knows that day something's wrong so it caused like i look i think that was one thing you know the gosh the senior nationals i wrote the blog about where just it was the one meet we just did terrible but um that's one of the things i learned is like nathan like doubts it all drop it because there's a reason he knows something's going wrong that day and so but normally if he doesn't if you know he can miss it you know 10 warm-ups and if he feels confident so do i he's like i've watched him you know in his i don't know why his warm-ups are crazy but it's just it's what they are all over the place sometimes. It is, it's so scary. I know at Junior Pan Ams where he killed it once, like he missed like 120 twice on snatch.

And I remember being like, oh God, you know what? But he still went out there and got a silver medal at the Junior Pan Ams, so you know. Yeah. So when you think about the AO3 and you think about all that's going down, what strategy can you share with us? What predictions do you have?

I think Hunter is going to make the biggest upset in the history of USA Weightlifting. That's what I think. But you don't know what weight class I'm talking about. And it's going to be the greatest win in my career, I think. You know, I mean, if things go as planned, if she does what she's – not even like a – I'm not even throwing a Hail Mary this time if she does what she's capable of we do something spectacular

I agree that's what I need her to say yeah we're on the same page there without sounding like no I'm not being cocky I'm talking about what she's done let's just do what she's done.

We're not throwing any kind of... Yeah, literally just if I go and do what I'm capable of doing, what I know I can do. We get a lot of support, too. Here's a shout-out to USA Weightlifting. There's two coaches out there who have given me lots of help with her. There's Spencer Arnold, who's my boy, and there's Sean Waxman. Both lots of help with her you know there's spitzer arnold who's my boy and there's uh sean waxman both of them like you know well the number one they're two of my better friends in the weightlifting but they are like um they've sean has always been my mentor and

you know spitzer's always been my best friend in the sport and so you know they particularly like hunter and like her movement how strong she is and they've also like I know one of the biggest compliments I've had is that Sean Waxman emailed me once he says you know she says are you working with Hunter now and I'm like oh no is this good or bad you know I can go I'm like yeah I was like why yeah he's like you tell I'm like is that good or bad man you know what are you saying he's like no it's much improved and she's got so much potential and you know and Spencer would love to steal her from me but I would I would kill him but yeah but he I'm all the time bouncing ideas off his head you know yeah he was cool to have he was

helped in the back at a with three I enjoyed having him there a lot me too I think he was more upset with me missing my third clean and jerk attempt than I was, but, uh, he just kind of came up and was like, you cleaned it like a broomstick. How do you miss a jerk like that?

Like, I know, I know. So, but we've, we've came a long way even since then. Kind of like my jerks and just overhead stuff. So we're ready.

So yeah, we're ready. It'll be exciting. So there's someone listening this podcast right now let's say 20 year old hunter right 20 year old girl out there listening to you yeah what what piece of advice would you say lifting life whatever what one piece of advice would you pass along let's see i'd probably just say like like do your thing like i know that that's like like i wish i wouldn't have like well one 20 year old hunter was a freshman no not a freshman

like a sophomore in college like partying and whatever so that's just like where I was at my point but as far as like where I am now and like if I was lifting or like starting to lift then um just like enjoy the process like really just enjoy it it's fun um once you learn to like love it then like it just takes away so much other things like you know don't think that you're not good because where you're at in like your training you're gonna get better just keep putting in the time and like just enjoy it like why do something you don't enjoy you know don't put you you're putting in all this time and effort into something and if you don't if you hate it and you don't like it like you're probably not going to get better you're probably not going to

enjoy it ever so the moment you learn to like enjoy what you're doing um it becomes a totally different thing so i would say to a 20 year old me like chill learn to love the process and just stick to it don't yeah that was good advice yeah well it's been a blast before we go where can people go to follow you find out more about your weight class um so yeah weight class you guys uh you you really won't know until day of. Day of. Literal day of. NotGonnaHappen.com. Yeah, NotGonnaHappen. But my Instagram, it's at underscore Hunter Elam. Shout out to Hate Brand. Oh, yeah.

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