Barbell Shrugged - Jared Enderton - Background, Lifting Tips, and Business — Real Chalk #89

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

Jared’s story is pretty crazy. Although most of us know him as the really strong dude with the beard who went to the CrossFit Games... He was also a strongman competitor at a body weight of 305lbs and at a height of just 5’6”. He talks about a particular time in his life where he even lost almost 100lbs in a 3 month window to start his CrossFit journey. An insane feat of his that I feel is rarely ever touched on.    Beyond his oscillating competitive endeavors, I talk to Jared about his opinions on CrossFit, what’s important to him at this very moment, and if he has aspirations of competing at the games again anytime soon.   Did I mention that he also goes over some of his favorite training cues to get better at Olympic lifting as well!? May want to tune in just for that!   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show notes: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/rc-enderton ------------------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/ barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

Ladies and gentlemen, we are back, and this time we're going to be sitting down with Mr. Jared Enderton. Jared has a pretty crazy story. If you guys don't know him, he's probably most known as the really strong dude in CrossFit. He's on the shorter side. He's 5'6". He's got that really big, gnarly beard. I'm sure you guys have seen him at some point. Anyway, before he started CrossFit, he was actually 305 pounds, And we're not talking about like super fat. He was just a big stocky dude. But for 5'6", 305 pounds is massive. And he was doing strongman training. But then one day just decided that, you know, he was going to lose 100 pounds and get in shape for CrossFit. And in just a few short years, he actually made it to the CrossFit Games, which is, as you guys know, a very, very hard feat to accomplish.

So right now, after his debut at the CrossFit Games, he's been doing a lot of Olympic lifting seminars, selling out pretty much every single time he does one. And he's got a lot to say about the new format in CrossFit. We just sit down and just have a great conversation. I think you guys can be really stoked on it. We also talk about a couple tips that you guys can move over into your own workouts for your lifting and your snatch and clean and jerk. And he has some really great cues for you guys. I think you guys are really going to like. So before we get into this episode, I just want to be the sole sponsor for this episode and talk about my carb cycle challenge that's been going around all over social media. If you're on social media at any point, you've probably seen an ad for it. And I've

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All right, boys and girls, we're still here at Madison at the CrossFit Games. I'm sitting down with Jared Enderton. He is the weightlifting coach for Invictus, and if you've done CrossFit at all in your life and you ever wanted to get better at Olympic lifting, I am positive. You have seen this man with a giant beard with his mouth open lifting some weights at some point in your life. So when you see somebody like that who has a big beard, you're like, I think that guy's

strong. I think he has some good ideas. So we're going to go about your whole entrance into the sport, which I think is kind of cool. And then we'll talk about kind of what you got going on, maybe some tips you can help everybody out with how to get better with their lifting. Yes, sir. Yeah. Thanks for having me.

It's funny. People always ask, why do you have the mouth open or the beard? And I'm like, man, I don't know. Style points. Yeah points yeah they're like you should shave the beard last year for the games you should shave it you'll swim better i'm like my points aren't coming on swimming come on it's in the weightlifting so it don't matter if i have a beard or not i can swim or i can't and that's how it is mark spitz is like one of the mark spitz was the best swimmer in the world before michael phelps and he had a giant mustache oh my i didn't know that and world before Michael Phelps, and he had a giant mustache. Oh, my. I didn't know that. And he didn't wear a swim cap, and he had six gold medals.

Yeah. So it was fine. Yeah. Like, at this level, I mean, my beard ain't going to slow me down. The more I look at you now, you swimming fast doesn't really sound possible. Yeah. No, I can swim fast. I cannot swim far.

Okay. So, like, you can be, like, I swam, you know, a mile last year or whatever for training, and it's like, I'll do it unbroken, but it's crazy slow. How much do you weigh right now? Right now I'm heavy because I haven't been training much, but I'm like 215. 215? In game shape I was 195. Okay.

So basically a year of not training in games level. 215 is so big for your height. Yeah. So I've been like this is like my not good shape. This is my relaxed shape. Some people hold it better though. Yeah. I don't think people realize like Jason Kalipa is not that tall. This is my relaxed shape. Some people hold it better, though. Yeah. I don't think people realize, like, Jason Kalipa's not that tall.

But he weighs, like, 220, 230. He is stacked. He's just a mountain, like, little man. It's crazy. When you see him in person, it's like, holy cow. Yeah, he's a huge human. Yes. Because some people you see on TV, and it's like, you see him in person,

you're like, oh, they're a lot smaller than I thought. But Jason's the guy where you get up next to him, it's like, holy cow. I'm definitely smaller than people think. I think they look at my Instagram like, that guy's massive. And I'm like, nah. Yeah. I'm as lean as I am in the pictures, but I'm not an enormous human. Everybody thinks.

Yeah. No, I always get that, too. Like, I thought you were bigger in person. Nope. I'm 5'6 on a good day. So, yeah. But that's good to admit it because a lot of five five five six five seven people like i'm five nine yeah all the time and i'm like who cares

like just like whatever yeah you are what you are you're not gonna change it i've been this way for my last girlfriend was 5 11 so there's that then when you met people you really look short dude it was funny i didn't really care at all i could tell she was self-conscious about it. Yeah. But anyway, speaking of being massive, you were 300 pounds. Yes, sir. And then you were competing in Strongman? Yep. So were you like kind of always bigger and you decided to be 300?

Like were you like 250 and you're like, I'm going to put more weight on so I can be better at Strongman? Or were you just 300 pounds and decided because you were so big you'd just do a sport that had? Yeah, it was kind of a combination. So like my senior year of high school, I wrestled at 189, 189 pounds. But like before my senior year that summer, I was 215. So like 215, since I've been 16 and 17 is like my walking around weight when I'm like lifting, eating kind of whatever I want, just walking and lifting. And then I cut to 189 so within a month

of that season ending like march of god it would have been 20 2007 i was 215 again and from there it was like you know i had cut weight for so many years wrestling that i you know and i was starting to get into strongman big just watching it i was like man i love it i was into lifting so much and bench pressing and squatting and you just learn the olympic lifts a little bit where I was like, man, I love it. I was into lifting so much and bench pressing and squatting and just learned the Olympic lifts a little bit where I was like, man, all this stuff. I love it. So let me chase strong, man. So, you know, for the first time ever, for like the first six months, I wasn't restricting my calories where normally I'd be doing track or football and then I'd go into wrestling. So like year round for all that time, it was, I was always doing some sort of conditioning to restrict my calorie, which would restrict my weight gain.

And then all of a sudden it was like, I mean, it was March. I was probably 215. Probably by September of that year, I was probably 245. Holy crap. Because it was like for the first time ever, I was going 18 on to 19. I was just lifting instead of doing all the running for football or all the, you know, the, the wrestling conditioning. And I was just like within six months, probably two 45.

And then from there, there was still 2007, but by 2010 doing strong man training full time, I was like, man, I want to be on world's strongest man. You know, I was up a little bit over 300,

not much, maybe three Oh three, three Oh five at the most. So big. Oh, five, six. Oh yeah.

I can show you one, but it's pretty epic. I mean, still, like, I could lift a lot. You know, like, it was still, like, I meant to gain the weight. It wasn't like. But you do lift bigger numbers now? I don't lift bigger numbers now, no. Oh, okay. In power lifting then, I had a lot bigger numbers, but when I was doing strongman, I didn't snatch or clean and jerk.

Oh, okay. So those were kind of. But I could probably muscle. I mean, I think I muscle snatched one day when I was like 300. I think I did 130 kilo, so 286. Like, it was kind of a clean, like a muscle clean and press. Yeah. But with a snatch grip kind of a thing.

But it was like, I mean, I could bench and dead and squat. Like, all that stuff was just the foundation of the strongman training. So my strength was like. What was your deadlift, squat, anything like that? So I think my best for when I was strongman that heavy, I think my best dead was 705, which has always been kind of my weak link in terms of that. And this is all raw, just with a belt, nothing else.

And then squat was maybe 660. Okay. And all the way down. I'd never done really a low bar in my life. It was just high bar. It's just what I did. I've never done low bar either. bar either yeah i don't so i can't really relate to those numbers it's just knee sleeves and a belt and then uh bench i stopped one year in but i did 550 was my best raw um but like when i was before my senior year high school i benched 460

um i think i did 440 in a competition before my senior year. Paused. And so it was like, bench was always like, oh, I can bench, I can squat. I hate the, like, anything that's not raw, I just think is so, I just don't get it. I can't relate to the numbers. It doesn't make any sense. No. And these people are, like, putting suits on people that, like, it takes three people to put it on you.

Yeah. So, like, what is the, I just don't understand. Well, that, and I'm friends with AJ Roberts. He has, like, the world record squat. It's, like, 1,100 pounds. It's pretty intense. Yeah, like, what is the – I just don't understand. Well, that and – Like, I'm friends with A.J. Roberts. He has, like, the world record squat. Yeah. Like, 1,100 pounds. It's pretty intense. Yeah, it is.

But it's, you know, there's all the suits and all that kind of stuff on there. Yeah, and it's like I respect those guys. I respect – like, it's – I don't know. The longer time goes on. I just want to know what that person can do raw. Yeah. Because then that's the number that I think is appropriate here. Yeah.

And that's my issue is I can't relate to it. it yeah i don't know how much the suit is giving him and that's like i know it's impressive like those guys benching a thousand or whatever it's like just to support that much at lockout it's like oh my god yeah but it's also like i've never done or used that suit so what are they doing without it but yeah it's, I still try to respect all sports, and I do, but if I can relate to the sport, I definitely cheer for it more, you know. So what got you to go from that to Olympic? Did you do Olympic lifting before you got into CrossFit, or was it kind of both at the same time?

Yeah, I did Olympic weightlifting beforehand. So, yeah, like 2007 to 2010 I did Strongman, and then it was like my senior year in college um in iowa i was just like man i don't know like in order to get to the the weight these guys are at and the level and the strength these guys are at i'm five six 300 pounds like what's it gonna take and i'm like a shit ton of weight yeah it's like i just i'd been there for like a year kind of stalemated and i was like miserable just being that heavy. My energy sucked.

I felt horrible about myself. So I was like, man, I was aware of Olympic weightlifting, so I'm like, you know, maybe let me try to go down to a weight class sport. And Strongman did have weight classes, but at the time, like the 231 weight class and under, which you could go pro in, there's no TV. There's no excitement to do it. So I was like, let me go to a weight class sport and get back to my natural, in-shape weight that I feel good about. So that was 2010. So I gained all that weight. And I think I probably went from 300 to 230 in probably like three months or four months.

Whoa. What did you do? Completely wrong. I basically never ate. And i just started training like i did as a wrestler i started running in the morning i would lift in the afternoon and then i'd go run and do stairs or some type of conditioning again at night like just the old wrestling did you have friends that saw you three months later and they're like dude what the fuck oh everybody like everybody was concerned for three years and then all of a sudden like over the course of four

months you're like dude what, what are you doing? You look great. Like, oh, my God. So I lost it completely the wrong way because I lost so much strength up front because I lost it so fast. But, you know, it's kind of the mindset once you get into a lot of those things as well, like weightlifting or strongman. Like once you get into it, you're just all in. So it was like once I went from 300 to 280, man, I feel better. 280 to 260, I feel even better.

And I just kept trying to lose the weight and lose the weight. And, you know, so it took me maybe a year to feel normal again, even when I got down to like 210. But once I got down to 210, I knew that I wanted to do weightlifting and try it out. And then from 2010 to 2015, training weightlifting. Yeah. So, all right. So now you start weightlifting and then I assume you did pretty well. Yeah. Like it was my weightlifting career. I don't know. Like it's one of those, I never had the results I knew I was capable of. You know, like I got a silver at nationals in the clean and jerk.

But that same nationals, if I just made one snatch, I would have got a silver overall. Like, or I would bomb out. I think I bombed out at my first nationals. That's the worst when you bomb out. Oh, yeah. I was an Olympic lifter in college. Oh, yeah. And I went to like the collegiate nationals. I was like, on the collegiate level, I did all those competitions.

Those are fun, too. I never bombed out, but I had friends who did, and I was like, oh, my God, that sucks. Because you travel somewhere, it's a big deal, and all of a sudden you get out there and you bomb out. It's like the worst. Because in CrossFit, you can't really bomb out. A lot of lifts. Well, at the Games right now, you can. Yeah.

Yes, you can. There were some people that paid a lot of money to come here and run a 400 they didn't even do any lifeless rope line yeah yeah that was that was i don't even know if i'd want to bring my backpack home and say i was part of it this format is i don't have anything bad to say about them i understand you're the best in your country and all that but like to be here on that stage and not be able to do the rope climb or not be able to do the snatch is kind of a bummer yeah it is like at the olymp the Olympics, because I trained on the Olympic team for bobsled and skeleton, and everybody who went to the Olympics was capable of what needed to be done.

Yes. They just, you know, wouldn't get first or last, or they would get something between first or last. Yeah. And they got to compete and be part of it. But here it's like... And you're talking within a few seconds of each other for times or hundreds of a second or tenths.

But here to do a 400 and not be able to do the second part of a workout is kind of a bummer. It is. It is. This was the first year at the Games where I told my fiance, we have to watch Event 1. Like we have to watch Event 1 and Heat 1. Because that's what I wanted to see. That was my most fascinating part of this whole CrossFit Games was I wanted to see the level of Event 1, Heat 1, male and female. Like, I wanted to see, like, are they actually going to fail the snatch? Or, you know, the rope climbs.

Like, you know, I know how they did in the Opens, you know, 70,000th worldwide or 10,000th worldwide. Like, what are we looking at here? So that was fascinating. But, yeah, I mean at here? Uh, so that was, that was fascinating, but, but yeah, I mean, to go back to the way that thing, yeah, I mean, I didn't have the career I wanted. My best was like a silver medal at, um, in the clean and jerk at nationals, never really meddled. And I honestly felt like by the time I started to understand weightlifting and be more mature as an athlete was like a year after I started crossfitting because I started taking it less seriously the weightlifting side because I was just crossfitting and then I started well

how did the crossfit come in into this yeah so yeah 2010 to 2015 I was weightlifting and with the you know how the olympic systems works the listeners might not but when you have to qualify for the olympics or you're looking to basically within a year or a year and a half sometimes two years depending on the sport you have to you have to qualify and compete in a certain number of international meets yep and in weightlifting it's two so within a year because they don't skeleton bobs are the same yeah they don't want somebody basically doping for three and a half years coming off and being like crushing the one event to qualify and then going to the olympics and getting killed because they're not yeah because they're not on stuff right like they want to make

sure hey you have to compete in two international events and they want the right representatives to make it so you know it was mid 2015 or early 2015 even and i hadn't made an international team yet and and then all of a sudden a few months go by and it was the summer of 2015 and i'm like look we're a year out i haven't made one and the next one's like in three months i can't make it even if i were somehow to put 15 kilos of my snatch and 12 kilos of my clean and jerk and make the qualification total i can't i can't compete because i haven't made international teams like i i feel like i'm at a good level but to be the one guy who makes it i'm not there yeah so it was basically like mid-summer 2015 and you're thinking what else can i do yeah like what else can i do do i sit here and make it

look like i'm still trying to make the olympics or do i actually do what like have like or do i want to get excited about training and go do something that i know i can have a chance in that also has a world championships every year yes So that was what bummed me out about training for the Olympics too, was every four years. And people don't realize is every year is world championships and it's the exact same thing as the Olympics. Yup. It's just not on TV.

It's not as like widely known. There's not as many people watching, but it's the same thing. Exact same thing. And there's people who will win world championships every single year going into the Olympics. They'll go to the Olympics, they'll get fifth, and they're not considered that good. Yeah, and depending on...

And it's sad. It is really sad because depending on the sport, like, I just, I'm a diehard wrestling fan. I still follow the international scene really closely. And, man, the world championships a lot of years are harder than the Olympics because they don't have to give the certain number of allocated spots to weird countries that don't really deserve it. You know, you don't get a couple of the bums in there. Like, you don't get countries that are like, oh, this is our first ever wrestler that's going because the Olympics wants to represent all these countries.

It's like some of your worlds, I mean, those athletes truly are, like, respected as the best in the world. It's even better than the Olympics competition-wise. For us, for Skeleton and skeleton and bobsled we had people because we only got to send up to three max if we were like if we qualified if our nation was like in the top 10 i think in the world we got to send three people from each sport and if we weren't we got to only spend two yep and we always got to send three but like our like fourth fifth sixth sleds were better than the first sled of the top 20 in the olympics you know what i mean like yeah we yeah we wouldn't go like first second third fourth fifth in the olympics but like these guys were capable of top 20 or like first six sleds and those and those three people after the

top three weren't even allowed to go you know what i mean so that's crazy yeah it is and i feel like it's kind of i feel like it's unfair like i know you're just in your country but and i feel like that's that is what the olympics is about but yeah it just really sucks to be that good and not be able to compete yep yeah it's the same way in a lot of olympic sports too and people don't realize that that are more casual fans too like in weightlifting you know there's 15 guys in china and russia behind a lot of the weight classes who are better than another guy's country you know and there would be another session but it's like you know they're they're 16 year old lifters from that country can outlift some of the best lifters

from another country and it's like but they're never even going to get close to the olympics because they're behind 10 guys in china or russia or bulgaria or wherever yeah it's crazy before we go off on that tangent because it's always bothering me yeah you start crossfitting you have the the limbs and the levers and stuff that everybody wants in the sport right i'm short too so it's like yeah i was probably built for this yeah but you're a bigger dude so i'm sure in the beginning you're like this is really fun i think i could do really well because i have big lifting numbers but like did your gymnastics come across pretty slow in the beginning yeah it was like like doing 20 muscle-ups in a row had to take you a while it really honestly

the gymnastics part of it i think because i wrestled for so long i could do all the skills day one like i could do the muscle-, I could do all the skills day one. Like I could do the muscle ups. I could do five in a row. Like the first time we were like, Oh, we should do some muscle ups. I'm like, I think I, I did a couple in a row, like one or two. And then I was like, let me try a max set. And I think I did five or six. So it was like, I think just the body control of wrestling. And we had done pull-ups and you do all this sort of body awareness stuff, of course, just wrestling. I had all the skills. It was just all the endurance and getting my body weight down. Because even for weightlifting, I competed at 94 kilos, which is like 206, 207.

So I trained at 215. So a lot of it was like, hey, let me get my body weight down to like 200 so I have better gymnastic endurance to do it. Yeah, so I just pulled the plug early from weightlifting because I'm like, I'm not going to make it. I'm not just going to make it look like I'm still trying, but I don't have a chance. Started crossfitting. And that's exactly what it was for two, two and a half years was I know if there's a lifting event, I'm probably, I need to win it. I can't just get third or fifth. I need to keep my strength, my strength. And that is, I need to win it. And that's what happened. Like

my first regional very first event, I won the snatch ladder. And I'm like, I can't take third in the snatch ladder. I need to win it. I need the 100 points. Because I know if it comes to a run, I'm still sitting at 208 or 210 bodyweight at that time, 2016. My conditioning isn't where it needs to be. And that's kind of what I found. With the gymnastics even, i had all the skills but as my body weight was still

like 205 210 i just didn't have the endurance for the gymnastic stuff like i could do it but if you asked me to do 100 chest to bar i could do 40 in a row at that time or 30 but i literally would be doing sets of four after that yeah and then down to singles by like rep 60 you know where other guys might be doing 10 10 sets of 10 like there's no way i could do that i could do one big set an explosive kind of like olympic lift a squat set of 10 right like it takes 40 seconds and then it's like i'm done so yeah as i got my body weight down and i kept learning how to do it i honestly just felt like my aerobic capacity the better my aerobic capacity got i was doing the same exact workouts,

the same kind of stuff. And all of a sudden I was going from like 12 muscle ups to 16 or 16 muscle ups. And then all of a sudden hitting 20. Once my aerobic system was getting better, my body weight was coming down and it kind of was all happening at once. Yeah. So how long did it take you to go from deciding to CrossFit to going to the games? Yeah, I decided I started CrossFit. I'm because there's a lot of people out there that are like they want to go from deciding to crossfit to going to the games yeah i decided i started crossfit i'm

because there's a lot of people out there that are like they want to go to the games more than anything and they like hearing these stories they're like man that guy yeah had all this going on and he went to the games in x amount of years yeah it was less less than three years yeah so september 1st i'm very ocd so like when i set a goal it's the only thing that I, it's all I do, you know? So September 1st, 2015 is when I started CrossFit officially. I'm like day one, full-time training. I trained so hard the first week. I thought I had a rhabdo. I was like just killing myself. But anyway, I made regionals that first year, which, you know, the open was six months later, snuck into the regionals. But yeah, September, 2015 is when I started CrossFit.

And then I made the games in August of 2018. So just about three years is when I competed at the games. That's awesome, though. That's a really good accomplishment for sure. Yeah. Because I went 22nd at regionals the first year. 12th the second year. That was the year they didn't have a barbell.

Yep. And it was a good lesson for me. It was like, have a barbell yep and it was like a good yeah it was a good lesson for me it was like there were six events and i was like man if the and that year i knew going in i said i can make the games this year but i need the events to line up for me you know like i need some barbell i need to i don't you know i can't have high rep wall balls pistols and things like that were weaknesses flexibility wise i can't have too far of a run there was like certain things that were like hey if the events line up right i can make it and then they didn't of course i got 12th and i'm like hey i still felt good about my effort and then going

into last year 2018 i was like i really didn't care what the events were i really felt good enough even if there wasn't a barbell again i was was down to 193 to 194. I could still snatch over 300, clean and jerk over 375, like squat close to five. I'm like, hey, if there's a barbell event, I still think I'll be top two or three. And I still, if there's a pure running event, like triple threes, I think I was 11th in. Oh, that's not bad. Yeah. So like I was literally dead last going to the run off the row and the double unders. And that was my strategy.

I said, if I feel better on the run, this workout is the run. Yeah. It's all about the run. And then I caught, you know, probably 30 people on the run because they were running a 10-minute mile for the first mile and a half. And I was sitting there running an 8.45. Yeah. And I'm like, well, after two miles, I made up three minutes on you or two and a half minutes. So, I'm like, as long as I feel good.

And rowing, yeah, you just let up just a little bit. Yes. And you're not saving that much time. I mean, you're not losing that much time. No, you're not. Yeah, over 3,000 meters. A 145 and a 150 is like a totally different row. But how you feel coming off that row at our height, too.

Yeah. And that was what I was considering. It was like, for me to row 144 here, 143, where some of the guys were rowing, I'm going to get to the double unders and be hurting. Yeah. You know, and that was what I was considering. It was like for me to row 144 here, 143, where some of the guys were rowing, I'm going to get to the double unders and be hurting. Yeah. And this is a 40, 30, 40 minute workout. I can't be hurting 12 minutes in that bad. So it was like, yeah, I was rolling like a 155, I think 156 even like I was relaxing. So I'm like, dude, if I, if I'm in this good of cardio shape and I can prove it i'll run and show it yeah and then i ended up you know it was only 11th but comparatively to any other year aerobic wise it was like i would have been dead last in that workout so yeah i mean it was just a combination like really focusing on the aerobic system and that's why that's how i found you too

and um obviously i knew who you were before that but all the stuff you've been doing programming yeah like with that programming and then seeing all the content with running and the aerobics system. Did you see the YouTube video? Yes. The YouTube video is pretty awesome. Yeah. Which YouTube one? It's the only watch this if you want to be a more efficient runner.

Yes. That's like a half a million views on it. Oh, my gosh. I only have 20,000 subscribers, I think, on YouTube. I just started it, and that was my fourth video maybe. I think at the time I had 5,000 subscribers, and it just went insane. Yeah. I was like, holy crap it, and that was, like, my fourth video maybe. I think at the time I had, like, 5,000 subscribers, and it just went, like, insane. Yeah. And I was like, holy crap, there might be something to this.

So I made, like, two more videos with that. And then, you know, like, Henshaw is in the sport for making people better at endurance. Yeah. And then we have, you know, all these different people programming, including myself and CompTrain and Froning Stuff, Invictus, all these people were doing programs for different reasons, too. Like, mine's more for fun and stuff like that than straight-up competitor. But there's no one really out there teaching you how to get better at, like, the anaerobic capacity, like, in a certain window. Yeah. So we saw that, and I was like, we should do this, and I think it'd be really cool.

And he was already making a book that was kind of proving something on that subject. Yeah. that was kind of proving something on that subject. Yep. So he started training Hunter McIntyre, who went from, because he was originally the top coach for running for Spartan races. And then he wound up getting a bunch of different Olympic athletes, boxers, all this stuff. Gotcha. And then we started creating this thing. So it's really cool.

I haven't had enough. I have so many things right now that I do that I don I, I don't market that as much as I should, but I feel like it's, there's people who've done it and they've just been crushing their PRS for sure. Yeah. And that it's crazy too. Cause you know,

it's, I feel like everyone does workouts as hard as they can and they figure out one or two things they could have changed, but they don't actually know how to do the workout. Yep. And that's what this does is it tells you like how hard to go for the entire thing for you personally. So that the end you get the best result possible yeah you get the stimulus that's intended you know because i've done and that was what started to happen to

me was like i don't know anything about running like if you ask me to do 100 100 meters i'm like i can the same thing with swimming with like i have i would think i'm a little more fast twitch right like you'll just gut it out it It's why I went to Olympic weightlifting. It's why in wrestling I hit double legs. I think everything in my athletic career, I was a running back. It's all faster twitch stuff. And then as more times went on in CrossFit, I'm like, I need to seek out more and more information on aerobic capacity and running and breathing

and some of the simple stuff. I need to just spend time on YouTube like people do on Netflix, but i'm sitting there searching you know how to run better and running coaches and i and then that was you know i looked up i ran into hunter just on social and i was like oh this guy's kind of interesting he's a character like this guy's crazy i'm like but i'm like oh my god but he actually can run holy crap dude he runs like sub five minute miles all day long yes and i'm like at like 210 he's a big boy yeah he's yoked i'm like oh his running coach is diaz and i was looking up stuff and i saw you did some stuff with him and i was just i would have loved consuming everything that you guys were putting out and the lean and every little question you were asking him on the treadmill i was like oh my gosh so then i was like i'd watch it and then i'd go to the gym and be

like on the treadmill and be like i think i was doing the same drill you had you doing. And dude, I really wanted Hunter to be in day two because it was like all his events. Oh man. All the cardio. There's nothing I wanted to see more than him run that rock. Yeah. I wanted to see,

I wanted to see him run that. They should have just let him do it even though he was out just to see how he would have done. Yes. He would have crushed that. yeah. I mean, cause I, obviously I'm a cross-footer. I have a ton of respect for all those athletes competing,

and there's some really incredible times on the ruck. But just knowing, and as much as I've kind of nerded out on running, I'm like, I think he would have won it by a couple minutes. Oh, yeah. Like it was just under four miles, right? It was 4K, I think, right? 4K, okay. So 5K is 3.1.

I'm assuming it's like two two and change two and yeah two and change something because it was taking them mid to high 20s some of the best ones yeah but i was like i think you would want to buy a few minutes which would have been crazy with for that time domain so like literally this crossfit games has been all anaerobic yeah you know what i mean so all of the aerobic training that everyone's been doing kind of year round doesn't really apply to these games at all. And I think that's kind of where we're going to be seeing more of it is like classic CrossFit-style stuff.

So I know Henshaw's all about that really hardcore aerobic stuff, and that's why we did what we did. With the anaerobic side. Yeah, I really feel like right now the stuff that Hunter's been doing was like really right on pace with all this stuff. That's really why I wanted to bring that up. It's just, like, everything really is, like, in that sub-aerobic window. And everyone needs to be really good at, like, 20 minutes an hour, I feel like.

Yep. Yeah, that's what you're seeing a lot of. Especially at this Games. Yeah, because even with that first event, you know, you have 400-meter runs, but you got three legless rope climbs and basically Isabelle at 185. Like, your heart rate spiked so high from those two movements. You need to control it, yeah. The run is a complete recovery.

Like, nobody's really pushing that run, you know. Like, even if you're Fraser, I don't even think he's pushing the run, you know. When he's winning the event, it's like you're recovering on that to go be able to do three legless and snatch 185 and do quick singles. Yeah, a good run. You can see someone's arms moving. No one came in that with, like, their arms moving. They were just, like, their arms were just kind of flopping around.

Like, you can tell, like, that's resting and recovering. I don't think anyone ran faster than, like, an 80 to 90-second 400. Yeah, and even, yeah, especially. Even on the first lap. Even on the first lap, yeah. I think Hunter did. I think he did, like like a 108 or 107. I was like, dude.

But he should. That's his workout pace. It didn't even do anything to him, for sure. It's just like a little warm-up for him. And then the second round, there were still a couple fast ones. But by the third round, it was like they were completely. As a strong friend of his, like watching him, like he just made mistakes. I don't think that he was underprepared.

Yeah. He was equally as prepared as everybody else. He just made just dumb little mistakes. Like he would miss a snatch and then try to lift it again three seconds later. Yes. And I'm like, dude, if you just rested ten seconds instead of three, you probably would have gotten top ten in that event. He was doing really well.

Yeah. And then the same thing with the handstand walk. Yes. He failed a couple feet short. He was probably about five to six seconds more rest would have helped him. You know what I mean? Just like a very small, like, little things like that. And it only bums me out because of some of the negative press around him.

Yeah. I just don't want that person to be like, see? It's like, no, no. Like, he was ready. He just got excited. Like, there's a lot of people out there screaming at you. Go, go, go. Yeah, and you want to prove people wrong.

And you're just a little bit off on your on your game plan yeah but not underprepared in my opinion at all yeah and i think like for me or you you know having competed for me for three regionals one games and then for you competing it forever too it's like you watch it and you're like we're veterans kind of yeah and you're watching you're going no no no like rest more you need to sell out for the next handstand walk. Just get through the next one. Dude, I got a media pass. If you look at my wrist, like literally just yelled at him.

Yes. And you're like, just rest more. Like, dude, you taking that 10-second rest after you just failed the handstand, you're not going to make the next one. Like you need to sell out and you're still going to beat half the pack. But that's part of like, you know, being new in a sport like that is like he's he's got to go through those mistakes you know don't that's what we went through in training maybe before we ever made our first regionals or at our first regionals we did because we're so pumped and it's

like oh from there you're like okay we need to focus a little bit more and focus on what movements we need more rest on what part of the workouts are the big like crutch like what do we really need to be like hey you need to sell out to get past this handstand and this and that. But like you said, it took you three years to get here. Yep. To get to the games. And then for him, his first year, he got lucky enough to get that wild card spot. Yep.

So I think personally, I don't think that anything would ever teach him more than what happened on this weekend. I agree. I think he's got some fire in there for sure. Yeah. That's ready to get loose on some training. Yeah. Because I think even some of the athletes who got cut after event one, if it was because they couldn't really, you know, maybe they snatched 220

and they just missed the snatch over and over, they already knew they had to get stronger. Oh, yeah. They already know it. But to have a couple of lessons in a row like that for him, like that's better learning than I think a lot of the athletes had that got cut after event one that just got cut because like oh i just need to get stronger yeah like and they're like oh duh i already knew that because i've been working on

that for two years you know failures always make better success anybody will ever tell you that yeah so now um it's 2019 you're obviously not on the on the floor right now on this tv behind us yep did you get after it really hard this year or have you been obviously not on the floor right now on this TV behind us. Yep. Did you get after it really hard this year, or have you been focusing more on the business side of your life at the moment? Yeah, completely business. Completely business? Yeah, completely business. I knew after last year, you know, after chasing Strongman

and then weightlifting for so long and then CrossFit, and it was finally like, oh, I actually made the games. You know, I was excited, pumped. You know, a lot of business opportunities come with that, seminars and online coaching, and even our gym was, you made the games. Yeah. You know, I was excited, pumped. You know, a lot of business opportunities come with that. Seminars and online coaching and even at our gym was, you know, growing. So I was like, you know what? I made, like, it was August of the games last year. By October, I knew already.

I said, I'm not competing next year. Yeah. I just needed, like, the mental break. I wanted to focus more on business, growing the online program and seminars and just, like. Which I think is incredibly smart on your part. Yeah. And just being at home too, you know, to be able to spend more time with our family. Like I have a fiance, you know, she has two kids, so they're both in the house of course. And it's like, you know, I just didn't want to be gone every weekend and feel like I'm just coming home throughout the week and being like a part-time being there part-time for the

kids, you know, and being there part-time for coaching also, like all of it. So I was like, you know what, let me just try to get like a better, just life schedule, you know, and be home, be present, focus on business, see what, you know, how far we can take the online stuff and seminars. And, um, so yeah, as like, even in October, I knew I wasn't competing this year. Um, and yeah, everything like business-wise, it went really well and family's happy. We're moving to a new house. Like there's a lot of positive things where I'm like, yeah, everything business-wise went really well. The family's happy. We're moving to a new house. There's a lot of positive things where I'm like, dude, we're just lifing. I'm happy. People ask, oh, you haven't been training much.

No, I haven't. I've been weightlifting just to like – I've been training other people much. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. A lot of people ask me – people were begging me to do the one-ton challenge yesterday. You've got to do it. You've got to do it. And I i'm like you know what like my body just like is not up for it right now and like even if i did it it wouldn't really mean all that much to me like i'd be

excited to hear everybody screaming at me and stuff like that but once i decided to like retire and not be doing uh any more competitions anymore yeah and being able to focus on my business i've had like way more just satisfaction in my life than any other time ever. And I feel like if you're not the person who comes out your first year and makes it top ten at the Games, you probably don't need to be putting your whole life on hold for how many years to just get even fourth, third. If you get third, I try to tell people third place is the same as someone

personal training, selling for $100 an hour two days a week. Yeah. No, not two. Sorry, two hours a day, five days a week. You're making more money than the person that gets third place at the CrossFit Games. Yeah. And that's before taxes.

Yeah, before they take the taxes. You know what I mean? So unless you have a bunch of sponsors, you have a bunch of things kind of going on at the same time. Like I get it, but it's a big hurting on your body. It's a giant like postponing on everything in life you know let's say you have a family like they're not going to get to see you as much you're not going to say yes to like going on a cool hike somewhere with a friend or like a surf trip or like whatever you're into yeah there's a lot of postponement going on and before you know it like you might have missed out on a lot of opportunities

yeah so i think you got your you you got your highlight. Everybody's like, this guy's really good at lifting. He has great energy about himself. Like sitting here with you right now. Like I can usually tell within five minutes if I like somebody or not, I like you. So once somebody likes you, like, you know, they, they have that much more trust in you and you're able to sell things and you're able to have that connection with people. And I think that's super, super, super important. And I, I mean, I asked somebody on a podcast a couple of weeks ago, cause we were talking about this as like a, what you should do with your career and everything.

And I was like, and they were kind of arguing to keep competing and keep getting your name relevant and stuff. And I was like, all right, well, who got second last year? And they couldn't answer it. I was like, second, you can't answer who got second i'm like that's how like like that's how much i believe in doing your business and doing your thing because you don't even you don't even remember second place yep can you remember fourth fifth sixth and like no one this guy couldn't remember anything no and he was like a you know a diehard and i was like damn yeah so Yep. No, it's true.

I think early in competing, it's like that's all you care about is just want to get to the top, want to get to the top. And then for me too, and that's what I told my fiance or even working with Invictus this year, because they're yelling at me, you've got to start training again. You can at least get back in shape. Don't just be a complete bum, which I should have been working out harder the last year. I just, I don't know. You get focused on other things and I don't, it's just harder to, you know, like you get so focused on business and I'm like, oh crap, I forgot to eat today. You know, like I went eight hours and I'm like, shit, I haven't eaten. I'm like, oh my God. Oh, that happens to me all the time. Let alone work out. You know, it's like, oh, I just forgot to eat. Cause I got

on a business call and then I was coaching and then I didn't drink any, my God. That happens to me all the time. Let alone work out. It's like, oh, I just forgot to eat because I got on a business call, and then I was coaching. I haven't drank any water today yet. Yeah. Honestly, I've been looking around. I was looking in the fridge, and I was like, shit, there's a Fit A, and I can't drink any more of that. Yeah. I should limit that at six a day. Yeah, literally.

Yeah. But, yeah, and it's like I enjoy giving back so much. So my whole journey through Strongman, through weightlifting, through being 300 pounds, losing the weight, how I felt about myself, body image, and my confidence that went with that, and strength training to CrossFit, and the barbell cycling in CrossFit, or just the heavy lifting, how that changes. I feel like I've learned so much in a lot of those spaces that I enjoy coaching it you know I enjoy saying hey this is what I learned and this really changed how I competed and my confidence when I approached Grace or Isabel or Fran or any of these movements hey try this out and I enjoy giving back a lot to where you know now yeah I mean it's it's it's been nice because with the clean and jerk ladder last year getting second you know dancing hitting the Bernie like that was kind of the moment right like it was go that guy yeah oh yeah he used to be a weightlifter i think you know it's like okay

that's like the weightlifting crossfit guy you know which is which is cool because that's what i do yeah you know like and it just it ended up fitting and from that i'm like yeah let me just spend time coaching people then it's hard to go back to like i almost feel like going from the from competing to the business side is almost as gnarly as going from 24-hour fitness to CrossFit. To CrossFit. You know what I mean? It's almost like if I was to go back to 24-hour fitness right now, I would not be super stoked. Yeah.

And then also, like, for you to go back to competing now, you're going to be like, oh, I missed the business stuff. Yes. And, like, you know, the bang for your buck. You know what I mean? Like, what am I doing for myself in the long term, career-wise, financially-wise, like, those type of things that kind of matter as you get older. Yeah. I shouldn't say kind of.

They do matter. Yeah. And it becomes a sport. Like, the business or going into creating your own brand. Oh, yeah. That's all that matters. I mean, you're training all day. Yep.

And if you're not training in the gym all day, like, you're recovering. Yep. You're eating. You're making sure you're getting eight hours of sleep. You're setting your whole life up around training. people don't understand the whole thing that goes no they don't yeah like they see their hard training session man they're training so hard but it's like you realize they're not working a full-time job right like or they're not even working really a part-time job they're posting for sponsors but even the sponsors if they're big enough are writing

up the text and giving them you know what i mean like they're big enough or writing up the text and giving them, you know what I mean? Like they're not actually spending over three minutes to post that, you know? Um, yeah, then that's what I was saying. Like even going into the business side, like that becomes kind of the new sport is like your own business. You're competing with yourself and you know, we got this many people on the program. We want more. I want to help more people. And you're not competing really with other people, but you're, you're looking at their

stuff to see what they're doing for inspiration. Yeah. Just like in for inspiration. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just like in CrossFit. Yeah. Hey, I'm running a six-minute mile. What's that compared to Fraser? What's that compared to Froning?

Yeah. Do I need to be running a five-minute mile? 5.30? Like, there's always just that. You're looking at them not to, like... Be a competitor, but... Not to be, like, a direct competitor yet, but it's like, hey, I need to be aware of where you're at to know where I need to go. And to know if I'm getting better and how to get better and all those things. I feel like any,

every business, you should be constantly trying to grow in some way. And I feel like people who are, you know, been doing it longer, I should say, have better things to say or better, better pointers and stuff like that. So that's what I love about the podcast. I get to meet new people. They tell me their experience behind whatever I've had CEOs of power crunch bar on here. I've had, I've had like just the craziest Bar on here. Oh, nice. I've had, like, just the craziest people on here, and I'm, like, learning things I never would have ever had the opportunity to hear if I wasn't for the podcast, which is amazing. Yeah.

So speaking of learning things, a lot of people listening to this right now are probably, like, so interested in getting better at Olympic lifting. Yeah. And you have seminars, right? Yeah. So where can they find the seminars? Yeah, it's jaredenderton.com. Uh-huh.

Yep. So jaredenderton.com, you'll see that on there. It's really all I put on my website is the seminars. Okay. I have like a little store for t-shirts, you know, but I don't, that's something I sell at seminars more or less. But yeah, jaredenderton.com is where I do the seminars. If they go to your Instagram, is there a link on there or not?

Yep. Okay. Yep. Yeah. If you just go to my Instagram at jared a link on there? Yep. Okay. Yep. Yeah. If you just go to my Instagram at Jared Enderton, there's links for, yeah, that and some of my sponsors and online programming, stuff like that as well. Okay. Yep.

And then when you have these seminars, let's go through like an outline of what that seminar looks like. Yeah. So outline. Obviously you can't give too much away because it's really like a thing that you need to be at in person. Yeah. So let's go, let's go through like some of the things that we're like, things that they need to be conscious of.

Yep. Throughout their lifting. Like I always tell people like when I'm coaching classes, I don't coach very often anymore, but I'll jump in and help out. And I think people always forget about, you know, keeping your chest really tall and engaging your lats as that bar comes like sweeping into your hips. Yep. A lot of people are hitting the bars like, you know, middle of their is just brutal to watch it is and it yep and uh they don't baby kitten dies every every crossfitter that makes contact with the thigh i'll take that a little baby kitten man it's like i can't watch it it's terrible i need to help them so little things

like that let's go through like your your whole outline right now yeah i mean the general outline of the seminar then i'll get into some technique stuff. But it's like I cover the snatch first. So there's an outline or the introduction. I talk about who I am, my experience, what we're going to build towards. Then we go start position. We go over the first pole. Really the pole in one.

I don't really even segment it. But the pole, we go over the finishing positions. Then we go over the actual finish and the catch. And then we have them lift, right? We have them actually lift, put some weight on the bar so we can see how they move with the weight. From there, we have lunch, and then I max out right after lunch. So then it's just a meat. Kloakov style.

Kloakov style. And I don't do it for long. I usually take like 30 minutes, and that's what I've done for probably six years. I normally work up to like 300 in the snatch with no misses, just so I can do it really quick. Um, and then just move on. And it's really one of the first two, three years I did seminars, it was to show off. I'd be snatching three 45, three 30, something big, like, Oh, look at this. And then as time went on, like the last three years, especially as I've been CrossFit and I'm like, no, I need to lift to demonstrate what I just talked about for four hours in the seminar. I need to show them what this looks like fast and done at a high level

the start position the pull the finish and then we go over clean and jerk same kind of thing we break down the clean in that segment and then we go over the jerk but really like in terms of key points one of my big theories and I think it's so it doesn't get talked about enough is weightlifting you need to think of it in terms of back not up like that bar needs to come back into you not up if you think of lifting the bar straight up you then come forward to the bar which then sends the bar away from you it comes away off the hips and then it loops out around you, and then you have to chase it forward, or you just end up not being able to lift very much

because you're kettlebell swinging the bar away from you, basically. So you hate the jump cue. I don't mind the jump cue. I hate the jump cue. It depends how it's used. It just depends how it's used because I use it sometimes if an athlete doesn't fully extend. So I'm like, hey, you just need to like explode, jump, like get there.

I don't personally use it maybe once every six months for an athlete if they really truly just will not open up their hips. But, yeah, it's like that's the biggest thing that I really try to convey to athletes is like we need the bar moving because it's a tug of war. Like there's your body weight on one side. The bar weighs something in the front. Once it lifts one inch off the ground, there's a body weight on one side the bar weighs something in the front once it lifts one inch off the ground there's a combined center of mass and unless that bar is moving back into you into your power into your knees into your hips then the bar is winning the tug of war i have

something you're gonna love right now yeah have you ever listened to uh donnie shankle yes so he he talks about lifting in terms of ripping the head off of a lion, which is obviously an aggressive comment, but if you actually think about it, let's say you're about to pick up a keg and throw it over your back, you immediately, as you pick up, you fully extend,

you drive on your heels, and you throw it back. Yes. So as you're saying right now, it makes me think of that comment of what he used to say about ripping the head off of a lion. Yes yes and not so much the jumping straight up a lot of people like to say jump straight up i think just to say like a quick thing yep you know what i mean just

to get it done quick yeah but a lot of people are you know they're getting hurt and cross it because they're not getting proper instruction on lifting because people are trying to get them to do something quick yeah they're trying to get 100 people to try to move through it quickly. Which is, you know, I get it. Like, for me, it's like, no, it's way, if you pause somebody doing a perfect backflip, the snatch or the clean way more closely resembles a backflip than a vertical jump because of how the hips react and what the movement is, right? Because in a vertical jump, a lot of times you see the hips then finish forward as they go up, right?

And then the bar's got to go behind your head. There's got to be some backward trajectory on the bar in the snatch. Like, you're not just pulling it, right? I actually never thought about that. Like, it's got to go behind your head. So how's that bar moving backwards? It's why every top weightlifter in the world, every single one of them, they finish with their back behind the bar because it's got to have a

backward trajectory on it because your arms mid-air those guys aren't pulling 400 pounds with their arms from in front of their head to behind their head right like you look at the speed off the ground they're not they just can't do this and basically upright reverse i don't know external rotation with their shoulders and pull it behind them it's got to be moving backwards and how they do that is it's kind of like, I always say, it's kind of like a little bit of a backflip motion where unless they're kind of coming through and doing this with the bar, kind of like a little uppercut motion, like it ain't going to be moving backwards.

So, I mean, while I like, sometimes the jump cue does make sense, I never use it, maybe, again, once every like six months just because for how I teach, it doesn't make sense. It's just, it's applicable to certain people. Yeah. But like the back jump, the back flip, I use that a lot more because of where I want them thinking about where the bar is going, where they're going to get deeper under the bar in their power position. And then they're going to get their backs behind the bar, which opens up their hips, kind of like in this arch type position behind the bar, which sends the bar backwards.

How many people do you usually get at one of these seminars? It depends. You know, early days, not that many, you know, 2011, 12, 13, 14. But like the last two years, it's been very busy. I had to cap it when I'm coaching solo, like at 25 to 30, because any more than that, you know, I run groups of two or three on a bar, any more than that, and it takes me too long to get around to people. And it's just too many people for me to, like, remember what their issues are,

what's going on. So I usually cap it at 25 or 30, and I would say most had about 20 to 25. Okay, cool. I was going to say, you should come by my gym and do one one of these days. Yeah, well, I'd love to set it up. Actually, where are you? Colorado Springs. Oh, okay, you're a little farther away than I thought.

Yeah. I'm in California. California, yeah. So that's, like, my new thing. When I hear Invictus, I'm like, oh, he's in San Diego. San Diego, yeah. Everybody thinks I'm from there. I just in California. California, yeah. So that's like my new thing. When I hear Invictus, I'm like, oh, he's in San Diego. San Diego, yeah. Everybody thinks I'm from there. I just run it from afar.

I travel out there once every probably three or four months for meetings and business and to shoot videos and stuff, promo stuff. But, yeah, I mean, my goal for the future is to do like one seminar a month and to try to travel. You know, because that's about the right amount, one seminar a month. I've gone one weekend a month. I still love doing seminars so it gives me the right amount of what i love but also being at home and enjoying family time too yeah awesome is there anything else that you think you want to get into nowadays or is strictly stick with the lifting and just keep growing that brand and yeah yeah i think just

keep on keeping on like the online programming stuff is great nowadays it is especially with just how big social media is getting and your reach. And you have a good amount of followers now, so getting bigger, bigger reach. Yeah, and that's really been like, even the last year, I keep thinking about it. I've been out to the games quite a few times to watch, and I said, I want to get out to the games to see what it looks like this year with the cuts. And my opinion, I don't know. It hasn't been formed yet.

I'm adjusting. I'm actually looking forward to the cuts that are going to happen don't know it hasn't been formed yet i'm adjusting i'm actually looking forward to the cuts that are going to happen on the last day yeah i think it's going down to 10 people well it is 10 people now yeah it's already 10 oh okay fukowski's out lucas hogeberg is out who was second last year sarah sigmund's daughter's out like that's kind of messed up there's some big laura horvath who was second last year's out ann. Annie's out. Whoa, Annie's out? I didn't know that. I mean, it's the who's who. It's crazy. And I'm like, you know, there's a couple sides to me.

Like, has there been enough tests to say they should be cut? But then I also think maybe the message is you need to be good at general CrossFit in order to try the really aerobic stuff or the really heavy stuff. Because they haven't had heavy movement yet. I was going to say, is that what you think is coming? Because I don't know. I do. It's got to be. I mean, I think the next event tonight's got to be heavy it has to be it has to be otherwise i'm like maybe i'll never crossfit again because i won't get any points like i don't i mean it's it's midday on saturday if people are

wondering of the game so i'd like i i'm only guessing but there's got to be a ladder or max lift tonight something yeah and since they snatched 185 on the first day probably a clean because last year they did the clean and jerk so i would assume probably a clean just to be different something like that but i'd like to see a straight up back squat that'd be dope they never do a fucking back squat we did last year oh did you we did last year we did the crossfit total oh yeah you guys did okay back squat deadlift uh press i did totally, did you? We did last year. We did the CrossFit Total. Oh, yeah, you guys did do the Total. Back squat, deadlift, press. I did totally forget about that, but in all of the history of time,

that's the only time. That's the only time. Yes, it is. And it's like, hey, if you want to be better at Olympic lifting, you want to be better at this and that, the squat is the number one thing, and we never, ever, ever do it. It blows me away. Yes. It'd be cool to see even a front squat. Or overhead squat. Overhead squat. Which they've done before, but it's... But it's been five years it's a really cool 2014 i think frazier's first

year maybe yeah so i don't know i don't know if i'll go you know it's like i'm happy coaching i love coaching and i'm good with where i'm at um i think if the fire hits you you just hit it yeah and that's where i'm at that's where i'm at i'm like you know the last month i have been feeling like i want to get back after it and that's what that's i think that's how it should be it should be a natural natural progression yeah Cause like two months ago, my fiance asked me and I said, I don't know. I don't know if I want to do it. How old are you? 30. Oh, okay. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to do it. I just, I'm loving coaching and I'm happy doing it. And then probably like the last month,

it's slowly been like, maybe I was just sick of my own lifestyle of just like eating whatever I want and not working out much and just coaching kind of. And I was like sick of my own lifestyle of just like eating whatever I want not working out much and just coaching kind of and I was like yeah maybe if I start working out more and just getting a better schedule and then as I worked out just even the last month I'm like I think I want to go again maybe I don't qualify next year because I took a full year off of training hard but you have something to work towards yeah but I'm like you know what but I think I do want to try to compete at that level again and then once I feel like okay you know what, but I think I do want to try to compete at that level again. And then once I feel like, okay, I really reached my potential in this sport, or I feel like I'm really close to it,

or I at least trained enough years to think I made it to that level, I think then I'd be like, okay, let's go full-time into building the business and the brand and go that route. I like that. Cool. So maybe we'll see you next year. Hopefully. I'll be training.

I've got a long way to go, though. I'm 215 like right now. I was 195 last year. That doesn't sound like anything compared to what I've heard already. You were 300. You were this. You were that. I mean, come on.

I don't think any of it's out of the question. Yeah. All right. So I'm super happy that I got to run into you. Yeah, you too. Actually, the only reason I'm talking to these guys is we ran into each other ready to go watch an event, actually, which was the best event, I think, of the weekend so far. Yeah. That was a really crazy finish.

That was fun. We know Olsen and Frazier. Yes, it was. That was super fun to watch. Did you realize the top guys did over 300 pull-ups in 20 minutes? I did not realize that. Think about the math. Imagine how sore you are after Murph.

300 pull-ups. Yeah. Even just 100 pull-ups takes people that are really good like three, four minutes. Yeah, and it kind of messes them up a little bit like soreness wise because of that right at the you know the insertion they did most of the people who were in the top 15 of that event last night male and female did over 320 minutes wow so i'm like i just keep thinking i thought about that all day if it was me doing it i'm like let me do the math for me and i know murph is with a weight vest but it's 100 like let's just double the soreness of Murph, what you feel in your arms here.

I'm like, they got to be messed up today. Like, holy cow. And they were just doing, they're pulling a 100-pound dumbbell off the ground. Yeah, and doing the pegboard. Oh, shit, the pegboard. I think it's one pegboard. Yeah, it was happening as we were doing our broadcast here. But, yeah.

Crazy. So, yeah, that was a crazy event. That was a fun race, it was. So, one more time before we end it. Jared Enderton. End here. But yeah. Crazy. So yeah, that was a crazy event. That was a fun race. It was. So one more time before we end it. Jared Enderton. Enderton. Enderton. Enderton.

Yep. Enderton on Instagram. And then it's the same for.com. Yes, sir. And there's a link in your bio. You guys can go check out his seminars. Check out his Instagram. He has a lot of really good posts just about technique.

Yep. And you have, you know, sometimes you have some of those little machines that show like the line or the barbell yeah the bar pass stuff yeah so you probably listen to how he has his theory about pulling backwards a little bit and going backwards a little bit so i do like that i never heard uh too many people talk about that specifically yeah so i think it's nice to have your own little little spice in the sport and what you're trying to teach as well so yeah i mean you got to find some creative way to be able to get your point across. And differentiate. And differentiate.

My thing is always it's a tug of war. You against the bar, you've got to pull the bar back into you. That's it. Simplify it. Bar's got to come back into the pole. Pull back in the finish. Bar's got to go behind your head in the catch. Everything's back.

Not up. You're pulling back. Love it. Yep. All right, man. Thank you again. Yes. Thanks for having me on.

I appreciate it. Yeah. I'll see you guys again next week.