Barbell Shrugged - John Cena: The One Ton Challenge - The Greatest Weightlifting Challenge of Your Life — Barbell Shrugged #389

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

Looking for a fun event for strong people? Look no farther. The One Ton Challenge is the most fun weightlifting competition you will ever complete. It tests your lifelong pursuit of strength and leave...s out the unnecessary formalities...and cardio.   The One Ton Club — A club at Cena’s gym of people who can lift a total of one ton or 2,000 lb. in 48 hours doing 6 lifts: squat, clean, jerk, snatch, deadlift and bench. Anders Varners made it to the one ton club! Cena created the One Ton Club as a way to make training more fun by gamifying it. If you made the One Ton Club, you get a special shirt, and your name will be on the door or wall.   Set up the BBQ, get your friends, turn up the music, and use The One Ton Challenge as your motivation to pursue strength!   There’s no need to qualify. You don’t have to be in the top 1% to participate.   Strong people don’t run from a challenge, they attack it head on. The purpose is not achieving a certain number. The purpose is to get better. With a goal specific program designed to build strength and perfect technique, you will get better.   The One Ton Challenge Starter Kit is your step-by-step guide to testing your lifelong pursuit of strength.   To ensure you get results, we have developed The One Ton Training Program with the most successful strength coach in the country, Travis Mash. This program is broken down into six, eight week training blocks. Each training block builds full body strength in the major weightlifting (snatch, clean, jerk) and powerlifting lifts (squat, bench, deadlift) with a focus on a specific lift that you will have to master in order to reach your goal of One Ton or 1500 for women.   Coach Travis Mash is no stranger to strength. He is 46 years old and still front squats over 500 pounds.  He had more athletes compete in the Weightlifting World Championships than any other coach in America in 2018.  He has many freakishly strong athletes include Hunter Elam, Nathan Damron and Morgan McCullough.   The One Ton Challenge Training Program is a 4-6 day/week program that provides strength training, technique drills, and movement specific accessory work to build full body strength, while mastering each lift to smash through the 2,000 pound goal using just 6 lifts (again… snatch, clean, jerk, squat, bench, deadlift).   Are your strong enough to be in the One Ton Club?   Are you ready to take on the One Ton Challenge?   Get ready. -Anders and Doug ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-prologue ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The One Ton Challenge is here. Shrugged Family, in 2015 I boarded a private jet with John Cena and tackled the most epic weightlifting challenge of my life, the One Ton Challenge. I was given six lifts, the snatch, clean, jerk, squat, deadlift, and bench press, with the goal being to total 2,000 pounds. Over the course of the weekend, I hit six lifts inside 97% of my lifetime best, totaled 2,009 pounds, and walked away with my name stenciled on John Cena's garage door. All the reps, sets, and training sessions over 20 years of training culminating in one event, the one-ton challenge. On the way home, the wheels were turning, and I knew this lifetime test of strength was the future. I wanted everyone to experience this challenge, to test themselves, to find out if they could reach one ton. The One Ton Challenge is here. Today's show with John
Starting point is 00:00:58 Cena was recorded one year ago. In it, we discuss the challenge, why it was created, and the journey all athletes go through on their pursuit of one ton. I want to hear from you. I want to know how you stack up. So we are making it easy, and we created a home for strength athletes across the world to tackle their lifelong pursuit of strength. Go to theonetonchallenge.com, register for the scoreboard and enter your lifetime PRs. And this is just the beginning. The next eight episodes of the One Ton Challenge season will be with world-renowned strength coach Travis Mash. He currently runs the most successful weightlifting team in the country and is the proud owner of a 2,495-pound ton total. He will be walking you step by step through the training,
Starting point is 00:01:50 coaching, programming, technique, and the one ton training plan to help you break into the one ton club. We are just getting started. We have partnered with FitAid and will be hosting the one ton challenge this year at the CrossFit Games. You will have chances to win a spot and lift with your favorite athletes in the world. But for now, go to theonetonchallenge.com, register today, enter your best lifts, and get ready to take on the greatest weightlifting challenge that has ever been created. And now, here's John Cena. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Anders Varner. Joined by Mr. Doug Larson. Yeah, yeah. We took a big trip down from LA today. Got a sweet text message. And man, we found ourselves in San Diego tonight, overlooking the city. And today is a very special day in my life because I have two people
Starting point is 00:02:46 that I have spent a lot of time underneath barbells with. And both of them have had a massive impact, not just on me as an athlete and what I think is important in the strength and conditioning world, but they've also been good friends. They've mentors. And two people that I can't wait to introduce to the barbell shrug community. One being my training partner, Doug Larson. The other I've spent the last three and a half years with training in San Diego. You have probably heard of this person. His name is John Cena. A little bit in Tampa too.
Starting point is 00:03:22 A lot in Tampa actually. We have a phenomenal story to tell you about in Tampa. Mr. John Cena is on the show today. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. This is fantastic. To add a little context to where we're at here, we met. I got a random phone call from this random Nicole Garcia, who happens to be your fiancé. Yep, bride-to-be. A lot of confusion
Starting point is 00:03:46 going on in Pacific Beach. We had no idea what was going on. I was on an off day. I wasn't planning on lifting anyways. Next thing you know, two cars rolled up, in walks John Cena, Nikki Bella, we'll call her that for right now, just because it adds to the story. And I kind of looked around and said, well, I guess we're training today snatch clean the jerk some deadlifts and next thing you know i realized we're gonna make this thing happen yeah this is gonna be all right so um so welcome to the show any gym in san diego why are you walking into this guy's gym uh so um my lovely bride-to-be loves or had a place in uh over close to mission beach and the first thing i do when i maybe we
Starting point is 00:04:27 can talk about this uh acclimating yourself with new environments and still finding a way to train uh the first thing i do when i land in a new place is find out where to work out and i knew i was going to be spending a little bit of time at this place and the first thing i did was search for a gym and pb crossfit came up and that's when you guys had two locations and we went to the first location it was closed and called the number again we're like where are you guys at and you're like we're at the other place and I I uh CrossFit is is its own culture and uh I kind of bounce on the outskirts of that I'm I'm a wannabe weightlifter by trade and I was asking crazy questions like hey i just want to come in and do my own thing and over the phone yeah and not saying who i was
Starting point is 00:05:10 and all that and uh there was a bit of a standoff yeah on the phone it was like uh it really was you genuinely wanted to tell me to go f myself who does this guy think he is yeah here's why because weightlifters call you all the time when you have a crossfit gym and unless you're like in the american open nationals or somebody that really knows how to lift weights you don't need to go and do your own thing so you get the call it's like oh can i just be over in the corner? You're like, dude, can I just teach you how to lift weights, please? And even if, I mean, real estate is tight at the beach, so over in the corner is like half of the place. So you get four or five people like that,
Starting point is 00:05:57 and you can't do your own workout, and you're catering to these drop-ins. But you guys let me work out there, and I remember saying that this is the place I'm going to work out at. I love it. And, yeah, you signed up on the spot which was weird because we didn't really you left for three months after that yeah you're like god can uh can we be members here see in three months it's all right like uh i guess sure you guys did me it really was uh i was being really awkward and and not giving enough detail as to like what I wanted to do just because I wanted a place to work out. And you guys were kind enough. And at the end, I was like, you know what, these guys treated me.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, I've been in some places where they do just give you a corner and turn their nose up at you the whole time you're there. It was awesome. We had a great workout. It was awesome. And at the end, I'm like, yeah, I'd like to be part of this. Thank you. I will sign up now. Fantastic. great workout. It was awesome. At the end, I'm like, yeah, I'd like to be part of this. Thank you. I will sign up now.
Starting point is 00:06:48 One of the things that I... We've had a lot of awesome times, especially lifting weights, hanging out, just the... Everything. Not afraid to eat either. We like food. We like a nice glass bottle, two bottles of wine. But the...
Starting point is 00:07:03 You have been... I think a lot of people recognize you as wrestler a lot of people recognize you as movies whatever wherever they have seen you that is the kind of the the box that they put you in i don't know if box is the right answer but when i think about you all i think is let's go lift some weights like i have seen i i know how dedicated you are to you put me but i mean that's a good one to me i see you on tv or i see you in the movies i'm like oh that's cool man i wish that dude was here so we could go lift weights that'd be way cooler like this movie thing's cool but i guess all that begs the question like how do you see yourself uh You know, just as a guy fortunate enough to get a lot of opportunities to fail.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And every time you fail, you learn a little bit from it and hopefully it gives you some more opportunities. A guy who genuinely enjoys life. That is how I see myself. Every single day. Genuinely enjoys life. Have you always felt like that or like growing up did you see yourself as like an athlete or? Uh you know kind of um an almost athlete. Like I was almost good enough to to do some pretty good things. I got into um uh the
Starting point is 00:08:20 preparatory school system as a junior and senior. I was a bit of a standout in football over there, but I was almost good. You know, I was good enough to play Division III football. I got some accolades over there, but I knew as an offensive lineman at 6 feet, 250 pounds, even if I'm stellar, you know, I'm still almost good. Like, I'm not going to be one of those guys to raise his hand and say, I'd like to make a living out of this. That's not. So I was very realistic.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I think with all areas of fitness, I'm just, fitness, life in general, I'm very aspirational, but at the same time realistic with where I'm at, I guess. So wait, so what got you into wrestling? An accident. A happy accident. Actually, a good buddy of yours. Where? Super training. Mark Bell.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Oh, Mark Bell. Oh, yeah. I'm wearing his shoes right now. Yeah. So a happy accident from the family of Mark Bell. Yes, I worked at. Is there a story behind that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 I worked at Gold's Gym Venice, and I got a degree in exercise phys and kines from Springfield College. Oh, right on. I didn't know that. And as a young man who gets a college degree, you go off to try to apply that piece of paper to make more pieces of paper. I went out to the West Coast because I was sick of the Massachusetts weather and began working for a fitness equipment company, setting up gyms. And that was just really manual labor. So I really wasn't mentally stimulating myself at all. I loved the vibe around gold in the late 90s and the turn of the millennium.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It has since changed. But it was a very unique place to be. And I was like, man, if I'm going to spend a bunch of time doing something, I'll just work here. So for almost the same pay, I was kind of a jack of all trades in Gold's Gym. I would be in the supplement shop, the front desk, and fixing equipment, and whatever they asked. Mark would go in and train every day, and I had worked at the fitness equipment company with Mark and his brothers. And they finally told me that they were training to be wrestlers, and they wanted to know if I wanted to try.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And I've always had some sort of purpose behind my fitness. I started lifting weights when I was 12 because I was getting the crap kicked out of me. And I wanted to look bigger to fend off the bullies. And then came sports. And then after sports, I did bodybuilding for a while. But that was almost counterproductive in overall health and fitness. And then when wrestling came around, I was like, man, this is going to be awesome. And I have a reason to train now, too. So I guess I loved it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And it really gave me a reason to continually be strong. Yeah. If I didn't, like I told you before the show, we have a mutual friend, Justin Thacker, who's an awesome weightlifter. And you just mentioned that you're an aspiring weightlifter. We can talk about what that means here in a minute as well but if i hadn't had a conversation with justin to know that you were into weightlifting and that you you liked the crossfit kind of style gyms and whatnot i would have just assumed having not known you at all that that bodybuilding would have been more your style of training like you just mentioned gold's gym in venice that's like bodybuilder central yeah it especially used to be but it
Starting point is 00:11:21 certainly still is yeah you know did did you through, you went through a phase of bodybuilding. Like, what did that do for you? And then why did you transition away from that to doing more like weightlifting? It was like a weird hybrid of strength and bodybuilding. As a young man, 12 or 13 years old, when you want to appear to be intimidating, that look is intimidating. And my goal was to stop getting the kids who were kicking the crap out of me every day to kick the crap to stop it. So you look through these, it's literally the, the kick the sand in the face in the back of the comic. You look at the magazines and you see these guys and you're like, okay, I got to look like that. So what do they do? And you start at 12
Starting point is 00:11:59 reading the programs that they do. And you know, at 12 years years old i'm training inner biceps no need to be doing all that so uh just through through more and more yeah but i mean you got to start somewhere everybody's got to start somewhere we did a lot of that stuff i read all the magazines and yeah the whole deal and like i talked about you i've been fortunate enough to fail and learn from failure a bunch of times so you you learn more and more and you get involved with different circles of people as we all do and i just happen to like every step along the way be surrounded by some really good influential people that would move my um perspective forward a little bit speaking of those people the you've had really good coaches though yeah from the very first time you walked
Starting point is 00:12:42 into knox yes hard knocks yeah not your hard knock south hard knocks in the original hard knocks original in the bottom of the 1960 yeah what is that experience uh kind of like you walk into your first gym you've got a real coach that's going to teach you how to be strong um and then kind of going forward you've had the same coach for the last 20 years almost i mean yeah and he is spot on yeah he's a he's a he's a solid guy yeah but he stays we haven't mentioned his name yet yeah i didn't even know if i was supposed to yeah he's he's all about it man no instagram profile he's he's hidden in tampa yeah that's right yeah's right. The gym has a profile. Yes, it does. Yes. But no, I mean, just meeting the right people along the journey to keep your passion going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 When I was a 15-year-old, I was introduced to a guy by the name of Dave Nock, founder of Hard Knocks Gym, former Marine, Vietnam vet, former police sergeant. This guy was as tough as they come and a bodybuilder and a strong man. And I think that's when my focus began to shift. You know, my first weeder weight set, I'm doing leg extensions and like bench and dips and all that stuff. They're just the guide that they give you. And then I walk into hard knocks and I see these guys, um, there's so many strong men there. There's like a bodybuilding clique and a strongman clique. And Dave was a hybrid of both.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So he was like, oh, you're built genetically to do this. Let's get you in shape and we'll make you strong at the same time. So it was always, he had these crazy philosophies that I wouldn't even begin to tackle today and probably none of them made sense.
Starting point is 00:14:21 But I was a bulletproof 15-year-old who could eat whatever I wanted and as long as I showed up to train, he was there to kick my ass. It didn't teach me much about what to do, but it taught me the dedication, the repeated dedication that it takes to make it part of your lifestyle. So, I mean, Dave was like a father to me for quite a long time, and he was a very influential dude in my life. I found like a lot of people or a lot of, I had someone like that that was a Marine, Sergeant Major,
Starting point is 00:14:53 four trips to NAMM. He was a hockey coach. He knew nothing about hockey. Doesn't matter. But we were in way better shape than everyone. Bolden people, man. It didn't matter if we knew how to play hockey. We were going to be tougher, and we were definitely going to be in better shape than everyone. Bolden people, man. It didn't matter if we knew how to play hockey. We were going to be tougher, and we were definitely going to be in better shape than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:15:09 We won a lot of championships when I was a kid just because we didn't know how to lose. And people like that take you a long ways. When you – college, Springfield College. Yeah. What does the training program look like there? And kind of what are they doing on the football team? What is like the education of weightlifting at that time is kind of what interests me of like there's so much knowledge now.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So just to give you an idea about when that was, I graduated from high school in 95, 1995. Yeah, that's a long time. Purple piglins. Yes. Cushing. Cushing Academy. Got to shout them out.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And then went to Springfield. And Springfield is the birthplace of basketball. They founded the YMCA. They're very forward-thinking as far as strength and conditioning. And so was their program, especially for a Division III school. I mean, they used to be a Division II school school they were bringing all sports to all platforms most of their sports division three so football went down to three but still they were very ahead of the curve they had for the time and for the funding they had really
Starting point is 00:16:16 good facilities they had a really good coaching and for a while it was a bit counterproductive to strength so I didn't exactly do the program. And I got a lot of heat for it. And I was just being an ass. And I have no regrets. But in looking back, if I had only done what they wanted me to do, because what they wanted me to do is what I do now. So I was just worried about losing everything I had worked for. And I was so, keep in mind, I'd been training three and a half years under Dave.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah. And disciplined, almost like a beaten dog to not do anything else. It was, right. Yeah, you wake up, you make your bed. You just go through that routine. Yeah. So when I started being influenced by these other coaches, it was stuff that I wasn't familiar with.
Starting point is 00:17:07 It might have been some stuff that I felt uncomfortable with. It was stuff that was going to make me a better athlete. But like I said, I was like almost good anyway. So, you know, I ran fast. I jumped high. I was strong. All the testing I did very well at. And they realized how much I worked out when they were doing, like, two team workouts a week in season.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I was doing seven. Yeah. So I would get done with practice and go work out, and I would do double sessions and go work out in between the practicing session. Or, like, practice, workout, practice, uppers only, but I would still get a workout in. Yeah. So the coaches saw that. They're like, you know what? If you can handle the rest of the team having a problem with that, it's not like he's dogging the workouts to go out and drink beer. And at that point, I'd never had a drink in my life. I've never done drugs. So I was living clean. It looked good. And I was dedicated. And the
Starting point is 00:18:02 coaching staff at Springfield was kind enough to actually see that and be like, you know what, we're not going to mess this kid up. And if he wants to be in the weight room with a team, and I was with a team, I was just doing different stuff. What brought you out to LA? My dad said I wouldn't last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So when everybody else went to LA... I don't think I would last two weeks right now. When everybody else went to... We were there today and I'm 100% sure two weeks and I'd die. It's growing on me. Is that one of those where like you hear that and that's like that's like a dare like you gotta like prove them wrong yeah and it was just um i come from a small town where nobody ever leaves and and uh it's it it's that scene in goodwill hunting where it's like oh am i gonna go there for and then the guy's like if you don't go i'm gonna kill you
Starting point is 00:18:42 so like uh i when everybody else went to cancun for spring break, I went to Venice. I had enough money to take a cheap flight and stay with a friend and go to Gold's Venice. And I was just amazed at what I saw. I'd never seen anything like it. Because that's when, like, the real education begins. You're like, oh, wow. Everyone here is doing this the right way. Or a way.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Everyone here is as dedicated as I. There you go. Everyone brought their own food. It's a way better way to say it. Everyone stayed the entire day at the gym. Like these were the guys I had seen in the magazines. I was like, man, this is – it gave me two revelations. One, I need to be here. And two, I will never be a professional bodybuilder because uh it's it's
Starting point is 00:19:25 almost like um stepping on the field with division one athletes or like looking at a pro athlete you just like yeah yeah i couldn't have done that yeah that's that's for those guys that's just one for me yeah so uh it's it was it was good in that uh sense because if i didn't have any aspirations of wanting to make money as a bodybuilder, but it certainly shut the door on that. I competed in natural competitions just to keep myself in shape. Like I said, I wanted to have a reason to train, but never once did I think that I was going to amount to anything or do anything. But it got me around the element of people that were as obsessive with what the gym meant to me as I was. It was a giant multi-thousand person conglomerate of like, this is what we do, right?
Starting point is 00:20:11 Did that raise your expectations about what was possible in the world of fitness, though? Like being that close to people that are at that high of a level? No, I just think it put me around the people that were at that level. And I always have been lucky enough to surround myself with folks that are better than me. Uh, I've never been the strongest guy in the room ever. And, and I'd like to keep it that way because, um, I don't need that medal of accomplishment for myself because you have to be realistic to not enough to know that if you are the strongest guy in the room, there's another room like that's just that's just how it is um there's only one guy who's the strongest guy there's only one woman
Starting point is 00:20:49 who's the strongest woman and then everybody else is is under the tier system so i've always been uh towards the top of that but never at the top and i think even in uh hard knocks i mean um we have our top 10 of every lift and in no way shape shape, or form am I number one on any of them. So it's really cool to keep trying to strive to personally get better and inch closer towards those guys that are number one. But if I ever do knock them off, I know they're going to come right back in and knock me off. So it's just a good, it's something good to keep me training. I never rest on my laurels. So when I was around guys like that, I remember seeing a bodybuilder called Chris Cormier one day come in and bench, incline bench 405 or sets of six. Just like, just cold.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Savage. Just strolled in through like plate, plate, plate, plate, and did sets of six. And I'm like, man, at this point, I don't know if I've ever benched 405, like benched 405. I don't know what's going on right now. I can't squat that right now. But instead of being discouraged, it just made me want to go and train. Like, man, this is awesome. These guys are the real deal.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So it had that effect on me. And then, again, I think my age and my background and where I was from, I think the whole thing was super impressive to see and be a part of. I'd never been in the big city, so it was all real new and fun and awesome. Yeah. And the WWE kicks in, or WWF at that time? I was on the tail end. I think I was WWF for like a year maybe. There you go.
Starting point is 00:22:23 That comes in and what, I mean, clearly things change quickly, but that really, yeah, that's what I was going to say, is like the hustle and the grind just starts at that point really. And now you take on, you've got a job. Yeah. You've got, but you're out promoting at, where are some of the places you've promoted wrestling matches? Everywhere.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Some gas stations here and there. I could name the places that I haven't. Yeah. So you start hitting the road, you're traveling every night. You guys are seven nights a week. I don't know if everybody knows that, but that's seven nights a week. I mean, your travel schedule is absurd. And that's today, not when you started.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. Which makes it. It gets, it is what you make it. Yeah. So if you want to go all in, that is my passion. Like sports entertainment, WWE, that's my passion. That's what I love the most. And the feeling of being able to interact with the
Starting point is 00:23:25 energy of a live audience is is uh is unmatched by anything yeah and uh to do that you if you want to do that consistently you have to be able to go all in and you have to be able to travel to all these places and you still have to try to find a way to live a healthy lifestyle and and bounce around the globe uh i'm at a point now, I'm staring 41 down the face, where I'm finally starting to scale back on the amount of performances I do because it's almost like I can still hit the numbers I hit at 35, but I can hit them once a year instead of four times a year. So time is catching up with me,
Starting point is 00:24:02 and it's something that catches up with everybody. And I just have to do more preparation and more recovery in order to perform at a peak level. And that's why you see guys, weightlifting is a great example. You see the lifespan of a weightlifter is to late twenties or early thirties. And then if you look at the 35 year old class, it's a skosh down from the totals. And then when you look at the 40 year old class, it's a skosh down from the totals. And then when you look at the 40 year old class, it just dives. And the 45 year old class just dives even further and 50. So, I mean, uh, I'm very realistic about, about that and, and try to do whatever I can to maintain a level of fitness. I'm more, much more focused now on a quality of life rather than trying to be everywhere in the world at once yeah so i
Starting point is 00:24:46 understand i'd rather if i do 50 performances or 100 performances i'd rather those 100 performances be all that i can rather than 300 performances of me phoning it in and being miserable yeah what is the training look like when you're on the road though seven nights a week i mean well i think training is a little bit easier almost than the nutrition piece because you're dialed in. Like you've got – I've been doing it for 16 years now. So you get acclimated. How does a football player go through three practices a day? And the first day that they do that, everyone's dead.
Starting point is 00:25:19 But the last day of the three weeks that they do that, everybody's like, all right, let's play. You've got a scrimmage, no problem. You just get acclimated to it. I always marvel at CrossFit athletes because CrossFit athletes push their body to red line every day. I would break. I would absolutely break. There would be like bolts and nuts coming off, and I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I just couldn't do that. I just couldn't do that. And the overall dedication that it takes to be sufficient in every and at every movement is also, it's time that I can invest. You know, I've really put my chips into multi-joint Olympic lifting because you use everything, you keep everything moving and that's my goal. And in my craft, my office is 20 feet by 20 feet. There's no long distance. There's lots of rest. It's very similar to football. It's not similar to a marathon or an Ironman or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So when you look at, you know, what am I training for? And I'm known personally for strength. So I train for strength and I train to be able to move within that 20-by-20-foot office. And I marvel at the accomplishment of CrossFit athletes because I just don't know how you could do that for a long period of time. It just takes work that I'm not willing to put in. And yet the freaky level of gymnastics that they're coming across with these days, plus the ability to clean and jerk 375 and stuff is absolutely insane. And it's extremely impressive. And when you talk to people at that level, once again, we talked about, like, the almost good thing.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's their lives. Yeah. It's their absolute lives. And I'm trying to go in a million different directions and do a million different things. And in, in doing those million different things, never forget that quality of life means you're healthy. And I want, I like to be strong. I like to squat heavy.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'd like to clean and snatch and bench and do a deadlift and do all that stuff. So those are the things that I enjoy. Um, I don't yet enjoy wanting to do a handstand. If, if, if the day, if the day comes where I do, I will put forth the effort to do that.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah. So that's, I guess that training is easy because I know what I have to do, and I've been around the world so many times, I know exactly where to do it. Yeah. The one thing that's going to happen to you, especially when you're a professional wrestler and picking up 400-pound human beings and slamming them on the ground, you're going to get to you especially when you're a professional wrestler and picking up 400 pound human beings and slamming them on the ground you're gonna get hurt yeah you're going to get
Starting point is 00:27:50 hurt especially when you do it every day yeah well two years ago i was so stoked because you were in some like really good training and you were talking about going to nationals and we were gonna set some like serious records i was gonna do senior nationals yeah we were going to set some like serious records i was going to do senior nationals yeah you were going to set you were going to set the american record it was going to be real i was super stoked i was like i cannot wait to watch this and then your stupid shoulder well you know it just decided at the wrong time not to work yeah it decided to just wreck itself yeah yeah yeah um what um but that's not the only thing i mean you're you've got bulge discs you've got all the things how does training kind of change when you're on the road recovery's tough you're getting beat up every single night and you're dealing with these nagging injuries
Starting point is 00:28:37 that's not that it's it's it's understanding the problem okay so i have uh bulges and herniations all through my lumbar, which means every time I sit, I have to have one of these pads that keeps my posture correct, which means I have to do extra warmup on that area to kind of, uh, give it the form of traction to get everything comfortable. Uh, I have to continue to hydrate and eat healthy. Cause if I, if I even deviate in that little bit, the body swells. And the first thing that messeses up the first thing i feel is my back and hips and then if you destroy your shoulder your mission doesn't become to snatch 150 kilos it becomes to get your get your effing shoulder healthy yeah so i still am doing you know i i was able i had to get a total reconstruction on the right and they wanted to do total reconstruction
Starting point is 00:29:21 on the left but i've managed to kind of shift some shapes, and I couldn't do any overhead stuff for two years. And now I'm easing back into that. So I'm not saying it's out of the question, but I don't know if I'll be able to put up the totals that we were doing. Those were some decent times. Well, we've got some time. We can get back.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We do have time is what we have. Time is what we've got. And you're already in the senior, so you're cool. Yeah. When we get back, I want to talk about where your training's at today. We take a little break in the middle here, and we're going to talk about the One Ton Club. Hands down, the greatest weightlifting story of my life. I tell everyone about the One Ton Club.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I got rid of probably 150 T-shirts, CrossFit T-shirts, the other day in my closet. Two of them made the cut. Hard Knock South and the One Ton Club. Conquer all resistance. Right? Six lifts, one goal, one ton. There it is. Shrugged family, just a reminder, get over to theonetonchallenge.com.
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Starting point is 00:30:52 So 2015 or so, the greatest weightlifting story ever told takes place. We got, we've been talking about it for a good like year and a half before, but you have a busy schedule, we could say. Yeah, and I guess it, don't sell yourself short either. You're a tremendous slouch. You also have a busy schedule. So it's a matter of getting people cross-country and the stars aligning. And it finally happened.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah, so your strength coach was in town. We all vibe pretty well. It was like, hey, let's do this thing on the East Coast. Go check out Hard Knock South. And I remember walking over to Brian at the time just was like, hey, let's do this thing on the East Coast. Go check out Hard Knock South. And I remember walking over to Brian at the time, just being like, hey, I think we're going to Cena's house in Tampa. I was like, Tampa? No way. Next thing you know, I rented a really junky piece of crap car from downtown San Diego here. Drove it up toA., we hopped in a private jet, a couple Jack Daniels shots, and a lot of Coronas. And next thing I know, I woke up in Tampa, Florida, and the next morning for breakfast to really work on the squat gut,
Starting point is 00:31:58 you could call it, the bloat, and make sure that we're going to lift a lot of weights that day. We had eggs, we had hash browns, and a milkshake to wash it down in true powerlifting style. Yes, we did. And the goal was we get six lifts, total one ton, 2,000 pounds, squat, clean, jerk, bench. Yes, we'll call it a jerk. Yeah, jerk. Overhead.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Jerk is good. Yeah, that's good. Squat, clean, jerk. Yes, squat, clean, jerk, snatch, deadlift, jerk. Overhead. Jerk is good. Yeah, that's good. Squat, clean, jerk. Total. Yes. Squat, clean, jerk. Overhead press. Squat, clean, jerk. Snatch.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Deadlift. Bench. And if you have ever watched a John Cena weightlifting video on YouTube or wherever it is, you will see this beautiful garage door behind him. And if you look in the bottom left corner you will find one name and it says anders varner on the garage door because that day over 48 hours i squatted 419 pulled 470 something put 300 pounds over my head clean 308 bench 285 i mean 2008 pounds later you made it i made it it was the greatest thing that ever happened i i like i like it because when we decided to do the trip i told you about the club
Starting point is 00:33:15 yeah and you guys began to do the math immediately and you realized you were short yeah and that's that's what i like about it and it was like, it gave you guys two weeks notice. Yeah. So in two weeks, you're like, we're short. We're not going to make it. We're going to go all this way. And really, honestly, if I'm firing on all cylinders, I'm going to come in at 1950. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It was because we, I mean, yeah, I literally had to be inside, like, 97% of lifetime PR six times in a row in a 48-hour window. And you could say that the training was not like peaked out for that moment. It was like, oh, randomly I have to be the best I've ever been all the time on all my lifts. Yeah, and the flight in. We decided to see if we could drink all. The stewardess came back and said we're out of beer, so we had to go to Jack Daniels. Yeah, so we made that happen. So we woke up.
Starting point is 00:34:10 We pulled the tin cup. We woke up. We had a little milkshake and got to work. Yeah. And, man, I have never had so much fun. And just there's moments in life where like your weightlifting career, like when I was 13 years old, I never thought, I'm going to walk into John Cena's garage one day
Starting point is 00:34:31 and my name's going to be on that door. And it was, I mean, it's kind of like sitting in this room right now of just, man, it's incredible how far a barbell can take you if you truly wake up and give a shit and try and be really good every day at what you do. Like I said, my biggest takeaway from that is both of you thought you wouldn't make it
Starting point is 00:34:52 and something extraordinary happened just with a little bit of magic and a whole lot of effort. And that's what I think is amazing about the story. And I guess that's why it meant so much, too. You left the good part out. Once it was accomplished, man, we went out and ate and drank like Vikings. We had a good night.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah, we did. Vikings. The tomahawk steak. You brought it with the bone in. The bone in. It was a true celebration because you genuinely feel like you accomplished. I was just watching you guys, and I felt like I was accomplishing something. It was really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Hands down, it was not even one of the coolest weightlifting story I will ever tell. But where did that come from? I mean, 2,000 pounds, I don't – look, there's some monsters that hang out in Hard Knock South. Like the strongest human beings. There's Olympians on the door. You're on the door. Rob's on the door. You get literally Kofis on the door.
Starting point is 00:35:51 There's people on the door that everyone knows. We have a national powerlifting champion who is now a very decorated member of the WWE called Etor Ewan. He wrestles under the name Big E. Reese Hoffa, Olympic shot putters come in there. Adam Nelson, Olympic shot putters come in there. We've had the Michigan State track team in there. It's a weird central hub of like, hey, you're in the
Starting point is 00:36:15 Tampa area. No problem. Mark Bell was just over there. A lot of guys will just come through and be like, hey, I'm around or I'm doing a conference or something. Is it okay if I swing through? And we, I mean, it's, the One Tongue Club came about because we were for a second the strength, the first strength and
Starting point is 00:36:35 conditioning facility in the WWE. The WWE had built its developmental territory in Tampa and they were teaching these kids how to talk. They were teaching these kids how to fall down. They were giving them financial advice. They were giving them medical insurance. All the things that you would prepare an athlete for,
Starting point is 00:36:52 life coaching, everything, except being stronger, taking care of your body. The one thing that is surely going to break down and the one thing that you need to do what we do. Yeah. And I had this gym out there and it was
Starting point is 00:37:05 like we this is me and rob in there i can't give you his last name yeah i can't find out and uh he will be forever be known as the spray it's just me and spray in there and i talked to to vince mcmahon one day i just happened to have a moment of his time and i said listen i have this facility uh no cost use it for free because i want you to see the benefits of strength and conditioning for the athletes and it was a great basis so we we went from like two members to 100 members overnight and we wanted to come up with a system of gamification because the strength and conditioning is very much like a football training and we wanted to come up with something that was attainable for everyone and the male standard uh is the one-ton club and we've had a bunch of sub 200 pounders make the
Starting point is 00:37:49 one-ton club like everyone has a chance yeah and everyone's emotional roller coaster was exactly yours like i've seen that happen for everyone that is on the board from even a guy like etor who's gonna etor is it well over 3 000 pounds like he is his totals way up there but just making it getting the shirt getting the accomplishment it's like you are in a group and the group means nothing it's not like it maybe to you no but to me i'm showing everyone so that's it's just it's one of those things where it worked. Yeah. And forever. I have college buddies that come down. I have high school buddies that come down, and they eye the wall all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And a few of those guys are inching forward. And there's been one guy who's been on like a four-year quest. And every year he comes up short, but he's a little closer. And either this year or next year, barring injury, he's going to make it. Yeah. So, like, you did it in 48 hours. He's going to do it in seven years. Yeah. And he's going to make it. Yeah. So, like, you did it in 48 hours. He's going to do it in seven years. Yeah. And that's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's going to be. I will not remember the next three days. That will be a big party. Yes, it will. Yeah. Yes. Just because that's seven years of dedication to do something he thought was impossible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's pretty cool. In typical CrossFit form, Seth Rollins did it in, like, three hours. Mm-hmm. He just. Yes. Maxed out everything. But he also had some terrific moments he had an all-time best deadlift uh he had another all-time best lift like in like
Starting point is 00:39:12 he wasn't gonna make it yeah and he needed to do some miracle pulls at the very end like he strategically planned his thing i think he wanted to do like a couple more workouts during that day or whatever but it started it started to to him, and he started to do the math and realized that he was going to be short. And he pulled out some extraordinary moments to make it. And that's why it was so meaningful to him because, you know, all things considered, he probably can make it. You know, he can make it.
Starting point is 00:39:37 But on that day, he couldn't make it. The lifts have to be done in the gym, and they have to be done with a witness and on videotape. And those are the rules. So, like, you can come in and give the fish that got away story of, like, oh, I benched 500 in college. the gym and they have to be done with a witness and on videotape and those are the rules so like you can come in and give the fish that got away story of like oh i benched 500 in college i don't give a shit yeah you do it here and if you do it here you'll get rewarded for it here and as long if you stay at uh hard knocks for a week you have a week to do it you guys are there 48 hours you
Starting point is 00:39:59 have two days to do it seth was there for three hours. He had three hours to do it. Did you ever implement this at your gym? We ran it a couple times, and it caught on a little bit. Then it was a time in which I was on my way out of the gym. I remember the ride back from the car or on the car ride back after we did it and we're just like faces melted it was just like such a cool moment and i just remember being like man we have to bring this home like we have to give people an opportunity to like go through this ride and know that on in a 48 hour window you have to be the best you've ever been like maybe not the best on every single lift but you're never going to be inside 97 percent of the best
Starting point is 00:40:52 you've ever been in your whole life and carry that through like you have to bring so much to it and we ran three wonton club events at the gym um the most fun people are pring all over the place it was a freaking blast um but i was it was like right at the time in which i was starting to move on to the the next chapter of life so it never like fully took off but we we did do it and it was very cool for the community i mean people get so amped yeah just like there's a number and they'd sit there and they go through the same thing it's like i can do the math i'm if i if i if i hit one pr yes that gives me 15 extra pounds and the thing about the number and the thing about the lifts is if you if you have any dedication to strength and conditioning it's attainable and it's designed to be attainable. But you have to be good.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, there was people, like some old guys would come in, and he had like a 650-pound deadlift or something, like something absurd, but couldn't put his shoulders over his head. So the snatch would be caught out here, and it would be like 135, and I'd just be like, get rid of it, please. I hope you signed a waiver. But he's halfway home, 135 and i just be like get rid of it please like i hope you signed a waiver but he's halfway home 135 and 650 like yeah we got four lifts and all we got to do is 1200 pounds yeah and you don't have to be the greatest athlete in the world i mean kofi's like he's kind of a smaller guy right he was uh kofi was the first sub 200 pounder to make it and he's probably one of the most athletic
Starting point is 00:42:22 powerful yes people that's ever tried. But he doesn't come from an Olympic lifting background, right? No. But strong as hell. No, so that's another thing. We inherited this group, and this is where Rob is so good. He knows the room. I think Rob's one of Rob's best traits.
Starting point is 00:42:42 He has such a great knowledge base, but one of Rob's best traits is he knows the room. I think one of Rob's best traits, he has such a great knowledge base, but one of Rob's best traits is he knows the room. He knows who he's talking to and his degree is in psychology and he knows how to relate to people. That's why people are willing to follow him. He's well-versed and knows exactly what he's talking about, but you can have all the book smarts
Starting point is 00:43:00 in the world and if you can't create relationships, no one will want to hang out with you. Rob is a great guy of assessing the room and knowing the room and he knew the room when he inherited these athletes a lot of them had trained previously and now weren't a lot of them were untrained so he's essentially started from square one and knew that everyone had kind of the the frame or the athletic build to be athletes, they just needed to apply effort. And with consistent training, which they were now required to do, there would be gains. And he wanted to make a system of gamification to quantify the gains. Why do I want to come to this place?
Starting point is 00:43:37 When I'm training in downtown Tampa, why do I want to drive 45 minutes to this swampy gym, come to this place, and try to excel. I should just phone it in, skip workouts. But no, because it became a brotherhood. And because of the type of people he was, and those were the type of people he was dealing with, it was a very tight, connected group. He gave them an attainable nugget to strive for. And in getting that one-ton club, everybody got in shape. Everybody got in shape. The guys who were in shape were in better shape because they wanted to be high on the list. We also have like a top 20 performers list. So there's the one-ton club and there's the top 20 performers list.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Oh, I'm like number 11. This is like the coolest thing ever. If you think you're like Eitor, the strong person, I was talking about Big E, very strong, number one in all lifts, but his power index is at the top. His output per pound isn't at the top. So he has something. Even he has something to strive for.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And it's pretty much set up like that. And we really just never drop the philosophy after dropping a large group. We got about 20, 25 guys that come in and out of there on the regular. And they still, every time, the first thing you do when you open the door to the gym is you look up at that giant pr board and then you look over at the wall yeah and that's that's just how everybody does it that's awesome um what would in your training now i mean you you've done this forever now the the amount of knowledge you have you talked a lot about the magazines back in the day. When we left your place, Muscle & Fitness came in. They do a big photo shoot.
Starting point is 00:45:11 What goes through your brain when all this stuff happens? Like, you go from the 12-year-old that is reading Muscle & Fitness to now you're on Muscle & Fitness. And a couple things. One is it's super cool the first time I imagine that happens, and then I've texted you a couple times when I see John Cena's arm routine on the front cover, and I'm like, I know that's not his arm routine. Because he doesn't do any biceps. He doesn't do biceps, yet you got knowledge to his arm routine.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, so the one thing I think when I'm doing those, and I'm very grateful to be able to be involved with all that stuff, is I hope that they're genuine in the article. Yeah. Because a lot of the publications, they just regurgitate the same information, the John Cena arm routine thing. That doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:46:02 It doesn't exist. It's not there. How are they even allowed to say that if it doesn't exist? Do they consult you on this, or are they just using your likeness without your knowledge, or how does it work? The first time you're asked to do something like that, it's a fantastic, it's an honor. So you just kind of do it, and then you realize after it's done, when the arm routine workout comes out, that you're like, oh, man, that's really not not how i train and people are going to read this and think that's how i train like i read it and thought that like ronnie coleman spends
Starting point is 00:46:30 four hours working in her biceps right you know so that's what i would do and then i used to do the ronnie coleman workout did you oh yeah that's awesome in college so six days a week so that basically now um very quickly i hit a point of like i just want the article to be genuine and i want the information to be genuine uh i try to make it a point in all of those whether it's flex uh muscle and fitness um men's health i try it has to be shot at my gym there's no negotiations around that because they have to see the environment and there has to be some sort of element of olympic lifts in there because when you look through those magazines you don't get that element and it's not that um that's all that defines me
Starting point is 00:47:14 but when you're the person looking through the pages and you see these guys and you see this oh this is the guy that i like on wwe and he's doing these movements. I better learn how to do that. So it's just the same attachment that you would have to an arm routine. But if you want to be stronger and move healthier and, you know, I don't know. I just like the fact that they can stay genuine, and they shoot at my place. Like, I don't pose for any of the stuff they just shoot around my workout so i'm uh i'm not i'm not an ass i'm just very stern and in because
Starting point is 00:47:53 because you get uh quoted in print wrong once and you're never going to do print again and then you're like ah you know i'll do it but now it's got to be x y and z so i just i just want it to be authentic to me because i i think i have a reputation with uh and this is why um in the in the wwe world i'm i'm both revered and hated is because i'm authentic i i shoot from the hip a lot and i think people know they feel as if they know me and they either really like what they see or they really don't so i just want to carry that into into everything that i do and and um the fitness mags are no different we went out to dinner one time and something that um really resonated with something that made a very big impact in my life was we were talking about kind of this new stage
Starting point is 00:48:39 that you've walked into say walked into you've worked your ass off to get into but you've entered into this kind of the movie scene are we allowed to call like a movie scene that sounds so la especially since we've been there today you're in movies right you're saying you get you have an oscar or you've been nominated for an oscar and a golden golden glory was yeah ferdinand um but you said something to me and it was along the lines of, I asked, like, all these opportunities are opening up, and, like, how often are you hearing the words no in life these days? And you came back and said something, well, if you aren't hearing no,
Starting point is 00:49:21 you are not trying hard enough. Correct. aren't hearing no you are not trying hard enough correct and one instantly made a massive impact and something that i need to be working on in my life and everybody should kind of be striving for but where does some of that stuff come from and like just the consistent work ethic you've been at this don't isn't there ever a moment where you're just like, man, we did it. Great job. But now you're entering into movies. You learned at 40 years old how to speak Chinese. You did a press conference in Chinese.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I woke up one morning and watched you speaking Chinese and telling a translator about us hitting the one-ton club. Like, where does this stuff come from? I think it's not something i would define as work i get to do kind of like you guys you right now you're doing what you enjoy yeah so um all that stuff is stuff that i enjoy and i guess um i'm very grateful to be able to say that what i love is actually what I do for work. And the movies that I choose or the outside adventures outside of WWE that I choose to be a part of,
Starting point is 00:50:32 it's because they give me the same reward and the same passionate feeling as WWE. The time in the gym is, I need that for my mental stability, for my health stability. I love to do that. I will never not go. Uh, I've always wanted to speak a language, so it's something that I always wanted to do, but it doesn't come without hard work. It doesn't come without failure. Um, you know, I'm at 41. Like I said, there are, there are moments in the year where I feel bulletproof moments fleeting as the sunset. Like I don't feel bulletproof all the time. That's hearing the word.
Starting point is 00:51:08 No, I used to just be able to throw, you know, uh, 270 kg on the bar and just go to town on it. I can't do that anymore. I can't, I can,
Starting point is 00:51:19 I can work up to do that and be lucky enough to do it once and be like, yep, still there. But that's a but that's a that's a giant failure that you have to look right in the face uh trying to speak a language when you don't know anything you fail for the first three years and then after four years that's you said i learned to speak it at 40 i took four years of lessons for a three-minute press conference. Four years, yeah, for three minutes. That's hearing the word no a lot. That's failing a lot.
Starting point is 00:51:50 So I don't know. I have never been the one, and this goes way back to the almost good thing. I've never been the one who was a standout athlete. There was always the kid who had it, and that goes through every facet of my life. I was almost fired by the WWE because I didn't have a relationship with the audience. Everybody said I didn't have it. So I was last pick. I've always had my back up against the wall. So I've always been told like, ah, this will never happen. This will never happen. You'll never last two weeks out in California. Like I can give you so many experiences of failure. And then a few,
Starting point is 00:52:27 a few times I swung and it hit the ball and the ball sails out of the, out of the yard. So like the reason I keep getting up, the reason I keep going is because I'm chasing things that I love to do. And I've been able to call them work. So that's how I can fly in today to drop off dirty clothes. And as soon as we take the headphones off, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's because I love to do it. If you don't love to do it, you don't put in that work because work is hard. Work is hard. It is. It taxes you. It exhausts you. It wears you emotionally. It can shake your very foundation.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's disappointing, especially when you don't hit that goal. We all know, okay, today I'm going to do this for a lift, or I feel like I can do that. If you don't hit that goal. We all know like, okay, today I'm going to do this for a lift or I feel like I can do that. If you miss, you're crushed. You feel bad. You feel disappointed. You got two choices. You can stay with your head down or you can get back in and go and all of these things. And I guess that started with the gym. You fail when you train. You get to a point where you're you're not good enough to do the resistance put in front of you and you fail and it teaches you to either get your ass back in there go home and i've always just gotten my ass back in there and even in the wwe
Starting point is 00:53:37 side of things your character's gone through that exact thing i mean you used to you were rapping wearing a chain yeah you were killing it now you're mr america you've got you've got the the hustle loyalty respect you've got the whole but even that character you've moved into a new that that character did not fail by any means but you recognize there was a transition in there and that transition has led to countless opportunities. When you're in front of the crowd and you're, you, you talk about how you have like half the people hate you, the authenticity side of things.
Starting point is 00:54:15 What is the work that goes into finding out what that means? Like, where does the hustle loyalty respect come from? I freaking love it. It's, it's awesome. It's a, it's a borrowed a little from the armed services like Honor Code and Country.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And hard work, I think, is something that people think they do, but they may not know exactly what hard work is. Like what Tom Brady had a good quote. They did an Amazon special on Tom Brady, and I saw the trailer. I haven't seen the, the, um, the whole show, but it was like, if you think you're going to, to be at my level or surpass my level, you better be ready to dedicate your life to it because that's what I do. And it shows him how he struggles to juggle being a father and a family man and anything outside a football player, because he's a football player. If you look at my timeline from 2002 to now,
Starting point is 00:55:06 this has been my life. I'm just at the point now where I feel comfortable enough that I feel right now I'm actually ready for marriage and possibly ready for a family. Not until now, right now, 41 years old, have I ever thought that that was an option because my life has been the business in every aspect of it and continuously wanting to learn if I feel I know enough to carry myself in the ring. I want to learn about all the operations that go outside of the ring, international expansion. I want to learn about digital presence. I want to learn about our merchandising and licensing department, live event promotion, stuff that I shouldn't learn, but it's my life.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And if I know, I don't need to know everything about that stuff, but if I know a little bit about it, I'll be able to get better. I take the same approach to strength and conditioning. I have a programmer, I have a coach, but I always ask, I always inquire, and I don't need to go Rob deep. Like, that's Rob's job. But I would like to know what is going on. Hey, we just did this, and this was the result of our program. You are about to reprogram. What are you going to do and why? And if something shows up that I don't understand, hey, why are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:56:20 And he'll go on to this crazy explanation. I'll say, no, give me the cliff notes. Just like when I talk to the head of our live events. I don't need to know exactly everything that goes on into a live event promotion, but I need to know how I can help you put on a better live event. So Rob gives me information that helps me make a stronger me because that's his job and that's also my job. So I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:56:45 The hustle is hard work. stronger me because that's his job and that's also my job. So I don't know, man. I just, um, the hustle is hard work. Loyalty is, is something that has just been ingrained in me from a, from a young age, just because I think it's so fleeting and people, um, people who are people who have loyal folks in their life understand how important loyalty is. If you don't get the word loyalty, I don't ever expect you to get it. That's just the way it is. And respect is almost a way of being humble because you should show respect to everyone, even people who don't share your ideals and values. This is a podcast that mostly probably talks about CrossFit, yet here I am and we're discussing different things. And hopefully, I hope that I would get the respect enough because of who I am and the amount of time I've put into the area of fitness and strength and conditioning that someone would sit through all this jargon and maybe take a little nugget away.
Starting point is 00:57:36 They may say, ah, the guy's full of shit, but you know that one thing he said? That's all right. And that's all I expect. Just give me the respect that I deserve. Just like I give any sort of athletic discipline, whether you're doing the biathlon, whether you're a curler, whether you're a CrossFit person.
Starting point is 00:57:55 If you have a different style of approaching fitness than I do, I don't turn my nose up at you. I give you the respect for like, hey, you're taking care of yourself just like I am. There's a lot of people that aren't doing anything. So, it involves respecting those who respect you and respecting
Starting point is 00:58:11 those people who don't respect you. Even giving that equal respect. You know what I'm saying? I always just say, respect everyone, including your enemies. Anyone that's trying to be the best, like the dedication and the sacrifice across the board is the same fight. Whether that's trying to be the best like the dedication and the sacrifice across the board is the same fight whether you're trying to be the best wwe wrestler or the best crossfit like
Starting point is 00:58:30 you're saying like the fight is the same and that's that's the piece that i think deserves the respect like the hard work and the dedication is the thing that deserves the respect so whether it's curling like you said or whether it's wwe that's the the piece that deserves the respect is congruent across all people. Yeah, and I guess that's it. Yeah, that's it. I love it. Twice you mentioned the piece that I believe that was your dad that said you won't last two weeks in L.A.?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah. Did you guys ever talk through that after the fact? Did he ever come back and say, you know, I was wrong about that? No, no, I've told the story a bunch, and my dad dad's awesome i think that's where i get a lot of my showmanship from and i often say like it was either you i either broke your heart because i left and never came back or that was your way to give me the best motivational sentence any father could ever give his son and my dad with his vaudeville smile and his large voice i'll never tell that's my secret so like whatever he feels about that is it is what it is but uh it worked and i guess i
Starting point is 00:59:35 just needed that kick in the butt to be like you can't do this and that just being in a different environment changing my perspective changing the people I interacted with every day, changing up my routine. I guess that's what I find really attractive about all these other opportunities. Having been employed and being in the same office space for 15, 16 years now, I've seen different players come and go, and it's really fun to mix matchups with different players from a guy like Edge to a guy like Seth and so on and so forth. But it's the same element. These new projects, movies, TV, reading the news, doing the awards,
Starting point is 01:00:13 like all that stuff, writing a children's book. You get to meet all these new people and they're really good at what they do. So I can get knowledge from them and changing your perspective and changing your perspective and changing your company is very important to to growth even if you're uncomfortable even if you're not um you don't even belong there like just just meeting new people talking to new people and and
Starting point is 01:00:36 and uh getting more information that's the key to expansion so i mean that it's it's training with you guys instead of training with Rob love the guy but I've also had the opportunity to train around the world at some really cool spots and each spot I kind of you meet one or two people and it's like oh that's cool so what are you doing there you know there's stuff that I learned at your place that I took back
Starting point is 01:00:58 to our place and there's stuff that I like learned with Mark Bell or stuff that will drop in with a box with Seth and his guy will be like, oh, this is messing with you, try this. Like, how the hell did he know that? And it's just me not being stuck up enough
Starting point is 01:01:13 to be like, don't tell me how to do this. I know how to do this. I go into every situation, every situation, with an open mind and willing to listen. Because if you think you got it figured out, man, you are doomed to take an about face. If we just try and learn something from everyone, you're going to be in a better spot.
Starting point is 01:01:34 And when you let other people be the teacher, instead of saying, I already know this, you automatically put your guard down. I mean, how many times could you walk into a room and very easily just be like, I'm John Cena. I don't need to listen to anyone that's that's the worst thing in the world and it's it's yeah it's total bs because we get the opportunity to learn from everyone we meet yeah and once you come to that conclusion that you maybe i know nothing i think one of the things when i like in in lifting so long, I think that like the yoga world, I hadn't, there was no way I was ever going to walk into a yoga studio.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I'm a meathead to the core. No way. Then I walked in and I was like, what if these people know everything? What if they're the smartest people in the world? And I just haven't been listening to them. Turns out they're pretty smart. They things they're gonna help you live a healthier life and i just think if everybody walked into it understanding that we can learn a little bit from everyone and bring that into just making ourselves a more complete person and just interacting with like i said if the thing you learn is that person is full of shit then you learn that but you learned that yeah like olympic lifts are often tough tough to do in group atmospheres because everyone wants to help and everyone wants to coach and the worst position you can be in or that one of the toughest positions to be in i should say is a lifter who is continuously missing lifts because everyone
Starting point is 01:03:03 begins to gravitate over towards you and you know you're not hitting your lifts and now everybody's like, yeah, just put your hips back. Just stay in, don't pull yet. Just pull and then everybody's giving you these little bits
Starting point is 01:03:15 and it's such a complicated process where you're asking your mind to focus and you're asking your body to do amazing things and now 17 other people are telling you what to do and you just want to throw your hands up and be like i want to just get out of here right now it's almost like playing golf with a guy who's trying to correct your swing all the time and sometimes those are the toughest rounds to have but you like i always enjoy what people have to say and i can tell i can tell
Starting point is 01:03:40 in like the first two seconds if they don't know what they're talking about or they do know what they're talking about yeah and i can tell if i can take something away from that and even if they don't know what they're talking about i will entertain them for the fact of what i'm going to learn from this meeting is that you're full of shit and if someone is smarter i will absolutely absorb every piece of information i can from them yeah But if I didn't give them the chance, I would have my numbers and they would stay my numbers because I would do what I would do and I would not grow and I would not expand. And that's the problem that we all have. We get in this comfort zone of training and I'm guilty of it myself.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And just now, you know, in the past, I guess got past five years actually since I started with Rob Rob has been able to because I'm not no longer I was no longer responsible for my own training Rob has been able to consistently make me
Starting point is 01:04:33 put me in an uncomfortable environment he'll I mean we will he'll lull me to death for six months nine months a year and then we'll do something
Starting point is 01:04:41 that's completely off the wall and I will yell at him like I can't do this he'll say yes you can because it's the same thing you did 12 months ago we're just doing a different thing in 12 months you'll be able to do it yeah so it's awesome right on my man much appreciated where can people find what do you have going on that uh the whole public could see oh guys ferdinand let's i'll tell I'll tell you what. I rarely do podcasts. Let's just leave this one about the conversation. I love it.
Starting point is 01:05:11 If you don't know where to find me, I'm not doing my job right. I thank you guys for having me on. Let's just leave this one about the talk. I love it. I think if you're just tuning in now and you missed the hour, don't be afraid to be uncomfortable. Never be the smartest guy in the room. Don't be afraid to fail,
Starting point is 01:05:31 which means don't be afraid to try. Go out there and kick the hell out of the day and get strong. Sounds good to me. How's that? I think we crushed it. Thank you for just being here, one. Two, lifting weights with me. Three, being a mentor and just somebody that I have learned all these lessons
Starting point is 01:05:50 that you just dropped in the last hour over the three and a half, four years. And there's – I don't know why you walked into the gym. I don't know why I was ready when you walked into the gym that day. And all I can say is I'm grateful for a barbell and the ability to put heavy shit on the outside of them so that I was able to connect with people like you. And it's been amazing to see your journey for four years. And here's the thing. You've come so long. And we've talked.
Starting point is 01:06:19 I know you're just getting started. So that's also awesome. And I just, once again, I guess the most important thing, absolutely, is that lust for life. Enjoy life. It is yours, and it is what you make it. And I just can't quantify that enough. The powerful play goes on, and you get to contribute a verse.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Yeah. Mr. Larson, anything to say? No, man. I just really appreciate everything you said, especially the piece about respect really stuck with me. Like that not knowing anything about you and having no idea what you're going to come in here and say, like really emphasizing that piece about respect
Starting point is 01:06:57 just makes me feel really good about this conversation. And I'm going to take that into my own life and implement it. I feel like I'm a better person for having heard that. Had to make you sit through 60 minutes of BS, but you got one little nugget. There you go. A lot of fun. Thank you. Thank you.
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